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Hello, and welcome to Western Sieve. Episode two hundred and fifty five.

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Almagro returns. In our last episode, Manco Inca had the Pizzaro brothers on

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the ropes. Francisco Pizzaro was trapped
in Los Race soon to be renamed Lima

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really without any prospect of escape,
and Gonzalo were trapped in Cusco likewise,

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without any real chance of escape,
not that they didn't try, and Juan

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Pizzaro was dead. But Manco failed
to appreciate the secret to his recent success.

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Using topography to his advantage, his
star general Kiso figured out the Spanish

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cavalry was not invincible after all.
If you could lure said cavalry into the

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mountains there, the Inca might not
be able to quite level the playing field,

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but they could bring it a lot
closer. Then Manko overplayed his hand.

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He ordered Kiso to attack Lima directly, where his men would be at

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a huge disadvantage because of Pisado's cavalry, and the same thing happened that always

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happened. Kiso's forces were obliterated and
Kiso himself was killed. Just like that,

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the air went out of the Great
Rebellion. Now that being said,

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Manco still has the two other Pisoto
brothers pinned down in Cusco. Their efforts

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to break out failed in our last
episode, but just then another player re

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entered our game. After an absence
of nearly two years. Diego de Almagro

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was back, and not a moment
too soon. Despite General Quiso's death,

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Manko Inco remained determined to continue his
siege of Cusco. He continued to surround

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the capital, using the nearby fortress
of Olean tan Tambo as his headquarters.

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Because that's such a bear to pronounce, I will refer to said fortress as

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Manco's headquarters from here on out.
Sometime around early February fifteen thirty seven,

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about nine months into the siege,
a messenger arrived at Manko's headquarters. From

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the south, a large Spanish army, about four hundred strong was making its

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way up the Andes toward Cusco.
At present, this army was about two

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hundred miles to the south. At
the head of this army Diego de Almagro.

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The sixty one year old Almagro had
left Cuzco some twenty months earlier with

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five hundred Spaniards twelve thousand Native auxiliaries
and hundreds of horses. During nearly two

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years of fighting and a trek of
over three thousand miles, Almagro and his

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men had crossed over Andean passes so
clogged with snow that some Spaniards had pulled

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off their boots, only to discover
that their frozen toes had come off.

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Elsewhere, the Spanish invaders had stacked
the numberless dead bodies of their native porters

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as shelter against the icy wind.
The members of Almagro's expedition had endured starvation,

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constant attack, and eventually, some
two hundred miles to the south of

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what is now Santiago, Chili,
they had even into a fierce tribe that

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had managed to stop the Spaniards in
their tracks and force them to retreat.

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This tribe, by the way,
called the Arakanians, who would actually fight

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off all further attempts to subjugate them
for the next two hundred years. To

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his great disappointment, Almagro had gradually
come to realize that the governorship the king

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had granted him contained none of the
riches of Peru. Francisco Pisato had received

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by far the wealthiest portion of the
Inca Empire. Almagro now knew he had

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received the dregs. Eventually, after
a long debilitating trek north, during which

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many more men and horses died,
what was left of the expedition finally reached

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the town of Ediquipa in what is
now the southern Andes of Peru. At

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least a hundred Spaniards, innumerable African
slaves, and over half of Almagro's horses

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had died during the expedition. Similarly, most of Almagro's ten thousand auxiliaries had

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either died or abandoned the expedition and
fled their dreams of finding a second Peru

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full of towns, cities, farms, and rich minds now shattered. Almagro's

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followers, most of whom were just
guys who had missed out on the distribution

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of treasure in Kajamarica and Cusco,
were now intent on only one thing,

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returning to Peru and seizing whatever riches
they could find by whatever means necessary,

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and so Almagro, as he returned, sent a messenger not to Hernando Pisaro,

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but to Manco Inca. It seemed
that Almagro was going to try to

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play off the instability that he found
upon his return to try to get himself

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back in the driver's seat in Cusco. The message began, quote my well

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loved son and brother, again Almagro, addressing Manko. While I was in

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Chile, they gave me news that
the Christians were abusing you, and about

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the robbery of your property in house, and about the seizure of your beloved

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wives, which gives me more pain
than if they had done that to me,

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especially because I believe that what they
did to you was unjust, and

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because I appreciate and love you and
consider you a true son and brother.

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And as soon as I found out, I immediately decided to come with a

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thousand Christians and seven hundred horses,
who are with me now a little bit

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of an embellishment, and with letters
and powers from the King also not true,

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my lord, in order to restore
all that they had taken from you,

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and to punish those responsible for treating
you so badly, as their crimes

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demand. And Almagro continued, because
if you rose up or made war,

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it was caused by their being so
wicked that you were unable to tolerate it.

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And although with your recent punishment of
them, you must be satisfied,

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given that I want to take care
of this personally in order to send them

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as prisoners to the King, who
will order that they be executed. It

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seems to me that with my arrival, you should be confident that you will

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never lack my help again. And
even though the troops I have with me

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are so numerous and so powerful that
they are enough to subjugate a great portion

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of the earth, and even though
I am daily expecting another two thousand men,

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I wouldn't think of doing anything without
your approval and advice, nor would

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I ever refuse you the friendship and
goodwill that I've always felt towards you.

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Almagro followed up his letter by sending
two emissaries from his army to meet with

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manko Inca. For his part,
del Magro realized that a Francisco Pisaro was

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in a dramatically weaker position compared to
two years ago, and Almagro now found

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himself in a rosy position. If
he played his cards right, he might

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end the rebellion and then turn around
and blame its cause on the Pisarros.

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Then Charles the Fifth back in Spain
could be persuaded to put him in charge

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of northern Peru. For Almagro,
this was essential because, as I mentioned,

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there was no great second Inca empire
to the south. That he didn't

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know this at the time, of
course, no one did, but the

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Americas were actually fresh out of empires. Hernando de Soto was about to learn

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the same lesson in the American southeast. Mango responded to Almagro's sudden appearance favorably.

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Might as well make lemonade out of
lemons. I suppose he wrote a

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letter to Almagro. Well, I
mean the emissaries did, but addressed it

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to Charles the Fifth, so that
that way it could be directly passed on

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to the King. And the inherent
sells pitch here is pretty obvious, your

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Sacred Majesty, sent by your Governor
al Magro and your royal name, and

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given our diplomatic mission, which in
effect was to bring manko Inca peacefully from

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his rebellion, and to show him
the friendship that the Governor al Magro had

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for him, and abuse that it
seemed to him that the Christians in Cusco

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had done to Manco against Your Majesty's
wishes. We wish to inform you that

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the Inca Emperor received us very well
and listened to our message and responded in

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the following manner. How is it
that the great Lord from Castile Spain orders

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that they the Spaniards, and in
this case he's really referring to the Pizarros,

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seize my wives and take me prisoner
with a chain around my neck,

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and that the urinate on me and
spit in my face. How is it

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that Gonzalo Pizarro, brother of the
elder Lord Francisco Pizzaro, stole my wife

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and has her still? And he
Manko also complained about a variety of other

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things that happened in Cusco. Finally, he concluded, saying to my father

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Almagro, if the message you have
sent me is true and you are not

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lying, then I will come to
you peacefully and I will stop killing all

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these Christians who have done me these
wrongs. May God protect you, he

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means, King Charles, and enlarge
the Christian universe, your humble vassals,

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signed the two emissaries. While Almagro
and Manko returned diplomatic pleasantries, another emissary

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arrived in Almagro's camp. This one
was from Hernando Pisado initially had been slow

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to believe these rumors, though a
large Spanish army had suddenly materialized on Peru's

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southern border. They had been hearing
such reports four months now, and all

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of them turned out to be false. But with Almagaro now only twelve miles

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away, Ernando was able to confirm
the rumors as conclusively true. Unfortunately for

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him, he also discovered that Almagro
was in negotiations with Manco Inca, far

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from coming to his fellow Spaniards,
aid, it seems the one eyed former

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partner of Francisco Pisarto was considered stabbing
then in the back. It seems that

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the struggle for Cusco was far from
over, and that there were now three

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players vying for control, the Pizartos, Manco Inca, and Diego de Almagro.

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Conjuring his best Macchiavelli impression, Ernando
now wrote to Manco for the first

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time since the rebellion began. He
said he was willing to forgive and forget.

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This whole silly rebellion could be a
thing of the past if Manco quickly

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came to terms with the Pisaros.
Oh and that Almagno guy, Well,

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he wasn't to be trusted. Two
different emissaries and three different factions, two

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Spanish and one Inca, now jockeyed
for position back at Manko's headquarters. All

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were competing for the same thing,
control over Peru, or, in Almagro's

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case, control over the Cusco region
so that he could tack it onto his

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southern kingdom. For almost a century, Manko's ancestors had ruled the central Andes.

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Now, however, the young emperor
was confronted with two Spanish forces,

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both of which were offering to share
power with him if only he were to

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side with one against the other.
But how could he know that either one

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of them was telling the truth,
And how could he know if they weren't

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secretly working together to destroy both him
and his rebellion, which probably makes the

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most sense suspicious of possible duplicity,
Manko Almagro's two emissaries to prove their sincerity.

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To do so, they would have
to chop off the hand of Hernando's

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native messenger, and then that would
prove to him that Almagro really did hate

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the Pizarros. In Manko's eyes,
the messenger was in any case, a

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trader, as he had helped Hernando
and his men survived the long and bitter

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fight for Cousco, so having his
hand chopped off was fine anyway. Manko's

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warriors quickly pinned the messenger's arm down, while another handed one of the Spaniards

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a sword, as Manco watched,
protected by his guards. Of course,

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the Spaniard slowly lifted the sword above
the outstretched hand. There it hovered for

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a moment until the Spaniard brought it
down neatly, slicing off four fingers.

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Evidently satisfied, Manko allowed the two
Spanish emissaries to return to Almagroo's camp,

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asking to arrange a meeting with the
governor in the town of Kolka, about

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twenty miles away. Manko meanwhile said
Hernando pisa a message that was both blunt

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and unmistakably clear the return of the
now fingerless native collaborator. As the two

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emissaries began riding their horses back up
the valley, they crossed past with yet

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another Spaniard, a guy by the
name of ruey Thas. Ruey Thas was

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a local. I guess i'll call
him upper noble. He was just now

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going to try to bring the whole
rebellion to an end by himself without working

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with Almagro's faction, or without working
with Ernando's faction. This is sort of

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a I guess you would call free
for all. At this point, Theas

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seems to have believed that if he
could successfully negotiate a piece accord that would

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end Mako's rebellion, then he would
surely receive a large encomiendo or some sort

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of other reward in return. Diaz
therefore headed directly toward Manko's headquarters. Pedro

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Pisado would later recount quote when ruy
Diaz arrived where Manco was, he Mango

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received him very well, and he
kept Diaz for two days, and on

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the third day, Manko asked him
a question that, according to what ruy

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Diaz later said, was tell me
ruy Diaz, if I were to give

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the king a very great treasure,
would he withdraw all the Christians from this

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land. Ruy Diaz replied, how
much would you give? Ruy Diaz then

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said that Manco had a very large
quantity of corn colonels brought out of it

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and piled it on the ground,
and from that pile he took one grain

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and said, the Christians have only
found as much gold and silver as this

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colonel. By comparison, what you
have not found is as large as this

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pile from which I took this very
single colonel. Ruie Diaz then said,

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Manco, inca, even if all
these mountains were made of gold and silver,

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and even if you gave them all
to the king, he would still

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not withdraw the Spaniards from this land. When Manko heard this, he said

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to him, then leave Ruy Diaz
and tell Almagro to go wherever he wants

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for my people, and I will
die if we must, in order to

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finish off the Christians. Not to
be put off, Diaz did his best

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to convince Manko that he could trust
al Magro because Almagro was now an enemy

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of the Pisaros. If Manko ended
the rebellion, Diaz said, then Almagro

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would get Charles the Fifth to pardon
him and place him back on the throne.

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Manko finally decided that he would test
this messenger kind of how he tested

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the other one, who claimed to
hate the Pisados more than anything in the

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world. That this would be a
more difficult challenge. He ordered four Spanish

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prisoners be brought out and told Diaz
to prove Almago's hatred toward these pizzaros by

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killing these men himself. He then
handed Diaz a dagger and stepped back.

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For a long moment, Diaz and
the four men stood looking at each other.

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Then Diaz took the dagger he had
been given and thrust it into the

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ground. While Diaz tried to offer
a myriad of excuses why he had not

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killed these men. A disgusted Manko
had had enough. He ordered Diaz imprisoned

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with the rest. In the end, the whole episode only reinforced the overriding

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principle that had already taken root in
Manko's mind. Spaniards were never to be

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trusted. They would say or do
anything in their pursuit of gold, riches,

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and women. These discussions were pointless. But what to do now?

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Having been unable to overcome fewer than
two hundred Spaniards with eighty horses in Cusco

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after nearly a year of trime,
and with hundreds of thousands of native troops

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at his disposal, Manko realized that
his plans for raising additional troops with which

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to overrun Cusco had abruptly come to
an end. Soon, more than a

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thousand Spaniards and perhaps five hundred horses
would be in Cusco only thirty miles away.

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With such a powerful enemy nearby,
and maintaining his headquarters in Oleantan Tambo,

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this was obviously no longer an option. Manko also had no doubt been

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unable to forget what Rui Diaz had
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able to convert the nearby mountains into
peaks of gold and send all of that

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gold directly to Spain, the Spanish
king would still not withdraw these invaders from

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his country. Manko now understood that
the Spaniards were more powerful than they had

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ever believed, and unfortunately, their
power only seemed to be increasing. Soon

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after learning that Manco had agreed to
meet with him, Almagro began moving his

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force down to the Uk Valley toward
Kalka, the suggested meeting place. Almagro

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no doubt expected to witness the typical
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a standard ceremonial procession. However,
no such procession arrived. Instead,

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five or six thousand native warriors suddenly
appeared on the surrounding hills and began racing

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towards the Spaniards in full scale attack. Although Almagro soon launched a counterattack,

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the fierce assault nevertheless forced his troops
out of the city. Almagro and his

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men were in fact barely able to
recross the UK River, swollen from the

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recent rains. Almagro didn't know that
Ruy Diaz had failed. Almagro didn't know

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that Manco had no intention of meeting
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Again, in fact, angry and
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Manko now vented his wrath upon the
prisoner Ruie Thiaz. Later, one chronicler

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would write quote, they treated him
Diaz very cruelly like barbarians, and stripped

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naked. They smeared him with their
mixtures, and were amused to see how

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horrible and fierce he looked. They
made him drink a great quantity of their

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wine or chicha, which they drank
themselves, and having tied him to a

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post, they shot a hand sized
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which bothered him greatly. They then
shaved off his beard and cut his

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hair, wanting to transform him from
the good captain and Spaniard that he was

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into a naked Indian end quote.
By this time, both Almagro and Hernando

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Pisaro understood Manko's message that the Inca
rebellion would continue. Although Manco may have

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briefly entertained the notion of negotiating with
Almagro, in the end, he decided

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that he had only one choice as
the leader of an insurgency that it had

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already killed hundreds of Spaniards, including
one of Francisco Pizaro's own brothers, fer

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Manco. There just wasn't any going
back. The Pizzaro's would never forgive him

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Diego de Lamagro. Meanwhile, after
failing in his effort to negotiate with the

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Inca emperor now shifted his focus to
the question of Cusco. Almagro was by

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now well aware that despite nine months
of efforts, Manco had been unable to

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seize the capital. Almagro also knew
that Hiernando Pizaro, whom Almagro despised,

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continued to hold the city on behalf
of his elder brother. Disappointed by the

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King's grant of what he perceived to
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the south. Almagro was now increasingly
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the surrounding region as his own.
Since Almagro was unaware of the fact that

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the king had already extended the southern
boundary of Pisaro's realm, he believed there

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was still a good chance Cusco actually
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governorship. Marching his troops to within
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Almagro halted his advance and set up
camp the better Incunquistador then dispatched two

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messengers to quote go to the city
of Cusco and greeturn onto Pisaro on his

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behalf and tell him that he had
not discovered in the provinces of Chile that

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magnificence wealth that the Indians in Peru
had told him was there, and that

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he had received news that the entire
Kingdom of Peru had risen in rebellion,

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that the Indians were rebelling against the
service of his majesty. This news,

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as well the arrival of his appointment
as the governor of the new Kingdom of

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Toledo were the reasons for his return. There was no need to worry.

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Therefore, nor should his arrival cause
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to serve God and the King and
to punish the rebellious Indians. Indeed,

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he Almagro had felt immense sorrow the
moment he had learned about the great hardships

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that the Governor, friend Cisco Pisaro
and the rest of the Spaniards had suffered.

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For his part, Almagro had never
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This was all a series of ploys
intended to boost his bargaining position, though

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to be fair, this had all
really annoyed hernan No Pisaro. The people

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really suspicious of Almagro, however,
were the wealthy and commend owners who had

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been with Pisaro since the beginning.
If something happened and Almagro did get control

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of her Cusco, then they would
be out of luck. On the other

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hand, there were plenty of Spaniards
and cusco who had not been part of

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Pisaro's initial expedition and did not own
lavish and Commiendez. These men might quickly

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throw in with al Magro if they
felt that they could get a better deal.

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The battle lines did not waste long
in drawing. Now, at thirty

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six years of age, Hernando Pizaro
was still the same tall, massively built,

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arrogant, greedy, selfish individual that
he had been well before the Siege

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of Cusco. That is to say, he's still the person who wears everything,

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including all of his faults, on
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about every person that he meets as
an inferior MEA Emperor Atahualpa is said to

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have once remarked that he had witnessed
no other Spaniard who acted so much like

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an Inca lord than Hernando Pisaro.
Now, of course, in the Inca

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case, such behavior was culturally prescribed. The display of contempt was a standard

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Inca ruling protocol. In Hernando's case, however, such behavior induced a strong

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negative reaction for most of his fellow
Spaniards. And this was absolutely true when

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it comes to al Mago. For
years, Hernando had referred to Almagro as

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that quote unquote circumcised more which I
had to look this up, but apparently

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that's one of the worst Spanish insults
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Hernando had actually used it for other
contemporaries as well. Therefore, it

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shouldn't be surprising that not only did
Diego de Almagro hate Hernando and Hernando hate

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Almagro, but so too did many
of their respective men. Now, since

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the lifting of Manco's siege, the
Spaniards in Cusco were no longer hold up

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in the two buildings in the main
square. Many had returned to their original

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homes in the city, at least
those homes that had not been consumed in

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the Great Fire. Hernando had already
established himself in the former royal palace.

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Hernando Gonzalo and about twenty Spaniards loyal
to the Pizarros set up artillery in the

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doors of the palace and used it
as a redoubt, determined to resist if

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Almagro tied to seize Cousco. Although
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was exaggerated in this case, at
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On the night of April eighteenth,
fifteen thirty seven, at about two

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in the morning, Diego de Almagro, seasoned commander he was prepared his forces

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to attack. There was heavy rain
that evening, and with cracks of lightning

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periodically illuminating the night, el Magro
and his men crept into the city and

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quickly captured the main church on the
main square, one of the two buildings

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in which Hernando's men had taken refuge
during the siege. Other captains now seized

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the principal streets of the city,
deploying more than two hundred and eighty cavalrymen

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in the process. Almagro's second in
command, a man named Rodrigo Orgonez,

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the same man who had beaten out
de Soto for the position. A second

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in command, led a detachment that
surrounded the main royal palace, where Hernando

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and Gonzalo Pizzaro and about twenty men
were still sleeping, totally unaware by the

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way that a political coup was just
unfolding fairly outside their doors. It wasn't

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until the Inca capital was already firmly
in Almagro's control that Hernando and his men

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realized that something was amiss. Leaping
up, Hernando, Gonzalo and the rest

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of the Spaniards grabbed their weapons and
began a fierce fight against their attackers,

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who had seized the small cannons that
have been stationed in the doorways and were

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now trying to force their way inside. Rodrigo Orgones, frustrated at not being

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able to enter, shouted outside in
the rain that if Hernando would give himself

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up, then he would be well
treated. Ernando, however, is said

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to have said back, quote,
I will not surrender to a lowly soldier

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such as you are. Orgones then
shouted back that he was the Captain general

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of the government of New Toledo,
and that he Hernando Pizzaro, was only

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a lieutenant governor of Cousco. In
any case, I Orgones, my high

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ranking men and Pisaro need not be
so contemptuous of surrendering to me. With

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Hernando and his defenders refusing to come
out, Orgonz now ordered that the palace

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be set on fire. Although the
palace was built of high stone walls and

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possessed two stone towers, part of
its roof was still covered with tropical hardwood

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and the rest roofed with native thatch. Despite the rain, AlMg Ro's men

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soon succeeded in setting the thatched roof
on fire. Sheets of flame began rising

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up, illuminating the faces of the
men below, and spreading smoke into the

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palace within. Almagro's men, meanwhile, waited expectantly outside, with their swords

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drawn. They were surprised that Hernando
and his men still made no attempt to

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surrender. According to one eye witness
quote, Ernando Pesaro was determined not to

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give himself up to Almagro's men,
and he told those who were with him

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that he preferred being burned alive than
to obey their commands. And he placed

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himself in the doorway and defended it
in such a way that no one could

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enter. There was so much smoke
that night that was made darker because of

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it. Orgones was not going to
allow the men they had trapped to remain

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alive unless they laid down their arms
and gave themselves up. Then suddenly the

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big beams that supported the roof began
to fall, the flames having destroyed the

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thatch. Seeing that they were about
to lose their lives, the Spaniards who

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were insigned begged Hernando Pisaro with great
urgency to leave this dangerous place and to

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surrender to the men of Jile,
who were after all Christians. The whole

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house then began to fall with a
crash, and the Spaniards, most of

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them burned and half suffocated from the
smoke, rushed out to face the lances

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of their enemies. As the captains
he means, Hernando and Gonzalo grappled with

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their enemies, they were seized and
treated abominably with blows and other outrages,

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which were unjust, as they were
the brothers of Governor Don Francisco Pizzaro end

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quote. And so such was the
I guess, I'll say, a reunion

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of the two groups of Spaniards,
those of the Pisaro clan and those of

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Almagro, who had been separated now
for about two years. Almagro's men now

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bound, chained, and imprisoned the
two Pisado brothers, along with their twenty

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supporters. The following day, al
Magro had them transferred to the Temple of

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the Sun, which now became a
makeshift prison. While Almagro occupied himself with

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the capture of Cusco, Manco Inca
had been gathering an assembly of his chiefs

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at his headquarters some thirty miles away. Native Spies had informed their emperor about

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the Spanish struggle over Cusco, and
once the city had been seized, about

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how most of Hernando's men had now
gone over to Almagro. Almagro was presently

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in possession of Cusco with more than
six hundred Spaniards, the Spies told Mango,

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plus about four thousand native auxiliaries.
Manco was also well aware that a

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second Spanish force of nearly five hundred
men was fast approaching from the north.

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If either or both groups decided to
attack can at his headquarters this time,

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he would be unable to repel them. And so, looking out over an

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assembled crowd of expectant chiefs and captains, most of whom who had fought loyally

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alongside of him for the last year, Manko addressed them as follows, my

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dear sons and brothers. I believe
those of you who are present here and

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who have remained with me through all
my trials and tribulations, don't know why

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you have been asked together here before
me. I will tell you shortly.

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Do not be alarmed by what I'm
about to tell you, but no very

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well. That necessity often compels men
to do what they don't want to do.

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For this reason, I feel obliged
to please these antists who have so

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long been asking me to go and
visit them. The people in the Antists,

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by the way, lived on the
eastern side of the slopes of the

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Andes, close to the jungle.
I will give them this pleasure for a

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few days. I hope that this
news of my departure does not cause you

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grief, because that's not my purpose. You already know very well that I've

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told you many times besides, how
these bearded people entered my land under the

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pretext that they were gods, which, because of their close and behavior so

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different from ours, both you and
I have even believed. I bought them

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to my own land, and I
treated them well. I gave them my

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things for which they treated me in
the manner that you've seen. And so

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it now seems to me that it's
time to depart for the jungle, and

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that I will be obliged to stay
there for some days. I am asking

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you not to forget what I told
you. I am leaving behind my son

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Titukusi and ask you to show great
respect for him and to obey him.

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If you do this, it will
please me greatly. Though impressive as this

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speech may have been, it could
not mask the truth. Manko Inca was

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effectively abdicating the throne. He was
giving up control over the Andes and the

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coast. He was, in other
words, giving up his empire. But

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Mango was doing what he felt he
had to do. He was moving his

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people to the only location he felt
he could keep them safe, the Amazon.

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Although many of Manko's nobles likely also
made speeches, Titukusi only recalled one

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quote, Lord Inca, how can
you abandon your children, those who so

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willingly loved you, had desired to
serve you, and who would give their

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lives a thousand times over for you? If that were required, Which king,

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what lord? Who do you want
us to follow? Would betrayal?

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Which treason would evils? Have we
committed that you should now abandon us,

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with neither lord nor king to honor
end quote. Mango, of course responded

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to the chiefs, reassuring him that
they would soon see them each other again,

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and that he would also stay in
close touch. By a messenger's manco

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warned them, however, never to
trust the bearded strangers, and not to

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believe a word they say, because
they lie a lot. But having made

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his decision and no doubt. Realizing
that the longer he delayed his departure,

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the more likely it was that he
was going to be attacked, Manko moved

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quickly to organize his exodus. In
the words of one chronicler quote, before

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leaving, they the Inca armed themselves
in a great square near their camp,

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where an idol stood. They prayed
to it with much crying, tears and

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sighs, begging it not to desert
them. And around this idol were others

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with insignias of the Sun and moon, And in the presence of these,

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which they looked upon as gods,
they made sacrifices by killing many animals,

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yamas and alpacas on their shrines and
altars end quote. But just like the

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speech couldn't mask the reality, all
the sacrifices in the world warn't going to

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reverse the situation. Manko Inca was
making the decision for a strategic withdrawal,

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and frankly, given the number of
Spaniards moving to the area, it was

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probably the right decision. Next time, we follow him as manco Inca moves

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to the jungle, where he hopes
to make a valiant last stand. If

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