1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,160 Stay tuned to the end of today's episodes that I can introduce you to our 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:12,439 newest podcast. Do you have any great anecdotal stories of people who maybe use 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,480 this as a launching pad for other success for themselves. I can't sit here 4 00:00:16,519 --> 00:00:19,600 and say that anybody's gone on to greatness or glory. You know, at 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,160 the end of the day, some of we're still fifteen twenty handicaps. You 6 00:00:23,199 --> 00:00:26,120 know. There isn't much else out there like this. But back in the 7 00:00:26,199 --> 00:00:29,920 nineties someone made a ten foot put to win a condo. I think one 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,359 year a woman pulled out on the eighteen poll of the championship to win by 9 00:00:34,439 --> 00:00:38,320 one. We've got seven guys who have played all forty years. They've never 10 00:00:38,359 --> 00:00:42,759 missed a single year. Hi. This is Mark Kennedy from Windsor in the 11 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:48,039 UK and I play at the Forest Golf Club. This is GHOFSMATA number eight 12 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:53,600 hundred and eighty five. The World Am is the Everyman's US Open and they're 13 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:59,159 open for registration with tournament director Scott Thomas Ella. This is Golf Smarter, 14 00:01:00,159 --> 00:01:03,879 sharing stories, tips and insights from great golf minds to help you lower your 15 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:10,760 score and raise your golf IQ here's your host, Fred Green. Welcome to 16 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,439 the Golf Smarter podcast. Scott Oh, thanks for having me for it. 17 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:17,200 It's good to have you on because this is something I know nothing about, 18 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,480 so I'm excited to learn a lot today. And it's why don't you just 19 00:01:21,519 --> 00:01:26,519 go ahead and introduce with the the World Amateur Handicap Championships. Yeah, and 20 00:01:26,519 --> 00:01:32,680 if you want the full name, it's the play golf Myrtlebeach dot com Myrtle 21 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:38,480 Beach World Amateur Handicap Championship. How's that for a dot com correct? Yeah, 22 00:01:38,519 --> 00:01:41,159 Well, we'll do what the press and the media do. Is the 23 00:01:41,239 --> 00:01:44,959 shortned just too simply, the World AM That's what it is. So the 24 00:01:45,079 --> 00:01:49,560 World AM. Yes, the World AM is is much easier to say because 25 00:01:49,719 --> 00:01:53,439 it's very well recognized here in the golf capital the worldmrble Beach, South Carolina. 26 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,079 This is going to be our fortieth anniversary of the event, which is 27 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,079 kind of the every Person's US Open. So if you're a golfer but you're 28 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:05,840 not quite that tour level where if we're even just a beginner or a thirty 29 00:02:05,879 --> 00:02:07,960 gundicap who loves the game of golf, this is the event you need to 30 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:12,439 be at. It makes you feel like a PGA Tour player and it's just 31 00:02:12,479 --> 00:02:15,719 a lot of fun. Four rounds of golf in Myrtle Beach, a lot, 32 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,759 a lot to do, a lot to take in. If you've never 33 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:23,759 been, you have to see it to believe it really. Okay, So 34 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:30,599 it's for the every man. It's the US Open for everybody. How does 35 00:02:30,599 --> 00:02:34,120 it work. Let's just start at the beginning. Yeah, so let's just 36 00:02:34,159 --> 00:02:38,000 take the average golfer or just a hypothetical golfer who's fifty five years old, 37 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:44,879 who is a ten handicap mail. What we do is we take your index. 38 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,319 You do have to have a gin a certified handicap. Let's say that 39 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:53,759 person's the ten index. They sign up and they get flighted based on those 40 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,120 factors. So that person would be in our fifty to fifty nine division, 41 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,240 in the mail division, and then they would be a flight that's dedicated to 42 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,560 players of the same ability. So let's just say, and this is a 43 00:03:04,599 --> 00:03:07,560 generally realistic example, that flight would be from nine point five to ten point 44 00:03:07,599 --> 00:03:14,120 five index golfers. Because there are so many golfers here, handicap ranges that 45 00:03:14,199 --> 00:03:17,879 you get flighted in are really small. So that you're really competing against people 46 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:23,400 that are just like you. So we've got divisions that go from under fifty 47 00:03:23,479 --> 00:03:27,319 all the way up to et plus. We run the gamut. We also 48 00:03:27,439 --> 00:03:30,400 run the game and in terms of handicaps, so you know, the thirty 49 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,719 six golfer is not excluded. We've got a flight for people that are I 50 00:03:32,759 --> 00:03:38,240 think last year was around twenty five plus. And then we also have two 51 00:03:38,319 --> 00:03:42,360 other kind of fun divisions which are the gross division, which the super competitive, 52 00:03:42,439 --> 00:03:46,919 the no handicap division, and then we also have a just for fun 53 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,039 division, so that division is flat out. We don't keep score, we 54 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:54,080 don't care. Just go out play have fun. But whether you're playing competitively 55 00:03:54,159 --> 00:03:59,560 or not, everybody gets four rounds of golf guaranteed on one different golf course 56 00:03:59,599 --> 00:04:00,919 every single day, so we try to give you a little bit of everything 57 00:04:00,919 --> 00:04:05,520 around the area. And then everybody gets entried into the nineteenth hole each evening, 58 00:04:06,039 --> 00:04:11,120 where just where you let loose party, have way a lot a lot 59 00:04:11,159 --> 00:04:13,520 to go intil on that one, and then if you're good, if you 60 00:04:13,639 --> 00:04:17,399 play well, you get a chance to play a fifth round at this year 61 00:04:17,399 --> 00:04:21,079 will be Grand Dunes for the fifth round, so we'll call it the world's 62 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:27,879 largest cut down for thirty three thirty three hundred players down to about eighty players 63 00:04:28,399 --> 00:04:31,160 and from there, if you win that group, then you're the world champion. 64 00:04:31,959 --> 00:04:35,160 Did I do that all right? I sut for you? Oh? 65 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:40,519 Overwhelmed with all these numbers here? Um, tell me more about the super 66 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:45,759 competitive, which is not my style, but the super competitive? How does 67 00:04:45,759 --> 00:04:48,079 that one work? Yeah? So the gross division is exactly as it is. 68 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,480 If you don't want to play with a handicap, or if you're like 69 00:04:50,519 --> 00:04:55,000 a sub five. If you did keep a handicap, that's a scratch division, 70 00:04:55,079 --> 00:04:57,879 which we have three of those for men and one for women, so 71 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,160 under fifty, fifty to sixty and sixty plus for men, and then an 72 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:05,519 open age bracket for women. You know, the typical it's a Wagger ranked 73 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:11,600 tournament, So the typical winners shooting around par over four days. We'll get 74 00:05:11,639 --> 00:05:15,680 some former collegiate golfers, maybe some players who've won some midam stadium stuff like 75 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:21,800 that. So it's it's technically the most competitive byability, but I would say 76 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:26,160 that those players take it just as seriously as some of our net players who 77 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,439 are fifteen handicaps everybody's there to win, and that's kind of why it's the 78 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,639 Everyman's Open is because even if you're a twenty handicap, you still feel like 79 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:36,800 you're playing very competitive golf. It's not your member guest on the weekend at 80 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:41,879 your club. And then the other extreme is just the just for fun group. 81 00:05:42,439 --> 00:05:45,519 Yeah, the just for fun is it's kind of catered to a few 82 00:05:45,519 --> 00:05:48,399 different people. Whether you're brand new a golf and don't want the intimidation factor, 83 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,839 you know, you can just go tee it up and you can play 84 00:05:50,879 --> 00:05:54,639 with your friends in that division. So if you've got some friends, maybe 85 00:05:54,639 --> 00:05:58,240 you create your own side game where you've got a spouse that you want to 86 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,120 play with them, or you really just came down to enjoy Myrtle Beach golf, 87 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:05,079 which is great. And then maybe a lot of our first time players 88 00:06:05,079 --> 00:06:08,839 play in that division because once they feel comfortable, they'll switch over to the 89 00:06:08,879 --> 00:06:12,639 competitive side just to get a feel for what it's like here, because golf 90 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,959 can be intimidating. But that's the best part about it is, you know, 91 00:06:15,399 --> 00:06:17,240 some people are here to win, some people are here to just to 92 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:21,639 get that get their feet wet. You know what we care about most is 93 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,399 whether you finish in first or last place. Did you have a good time? 94 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,079 You know, did you did you enjoy yourself? Did you get to 95 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,839 see the beaches, did you get to go shopping? Enjoy some of our 96 00:06:30,879 --> 00:06:36,160 restaurants because the price is just unbeatable when it comes to turning golf. Okay, 97 00:06:36,199 --> 00:06:42,199 so this is really this is a promotion for Myrtle Beach Golf more than 98 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:46,279 anything. It is, You're correct, So our our organization, Golf Tourism 99 00:06:46,319 --> 00:06:51,120 Solutions, it is existing to bring tourism to this area. So we want 100 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,560 you to come into town. We try to keep the entry fee as low 101 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,879 as possible so that you can then go out and decide how you want to 102 00:06:57,879 --> 00:07:00,360 spend the rest of your vacation. You know, we are a tourism board 103 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,240 of sorts for lack of a better word, So we watch. We don't 104 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:08,480 really care where you stay or what hotels where you play golf. We just 105 00:07:08,519 --> 00:07:12,560 want you to get here experience it so that maybe this can be a staple 106 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,439 on your calendar every single year. And for all we know, there are 107 00:07:15,519 --> 00:07:19,360 lots of those participants who come back in year after year, even when they 108 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,759 thought the first year is kind of a bucket list and maybe that was just 109 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:26,399 a one time thing, but nope, they tend to get hooked. Really, 110 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,160 that's awesome. So let's just say, how many golf courses are you 111 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,720 guys using if you have what thirty two hundred participants? Yep, so a 112 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:40,800 great question. We use about fifty five courses throughout the entire week, and 113 00:07:40,959 --> 00:07:46,279 then generally we're using about thirty three courses per day simultaneously. So one of 114 00:07:46,279 --> 00:07:49,959 the key questions that we get is you know what courses am I going to 115 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:54,399 play? There's there's so many listed on your website. Where am I going 116 00:07:54,439 --> 00:07:57,560 to play? And we tell what we tell most people is we try to 117 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,720 give you one in each geographic region of the beach, a one north, 118 00:08:01,079 --> 00:08:03,000 one south, one cent r and then we'll call it the last one a 119 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,959 wild card. And then in terms of quality, also we tried to make 120 00:08:07,959 --> 00:08:09,240 sure that you've got and I don't you know, I don't like to say 121 00:08:09,279 --> 00:08:13,160 there's any D courses out here per se, but just to make it easy, 122 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,639 we try to give you one top level a course, a BC and 123 00:08:16,639 --> 00:08:18,639 a D. Now again I don't think there are any D courses out here, 124 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,360 but just to make it easy in terms of understanding. We want to 125 00:08:22,399 --> 00:08:24,279 make sure you get one really great course. And then, of course we 126 00:08:24,319 --> 00:08:28,879 want to make sure that you know, no matter who you are, whether 127 00:08:28,879 --> 00:08:31,399 you're a good golf or a bad golfer, you get the same quality of 128 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:35,120 courses no matter what flight you land in. So like if you and I 129 00:08:35,159 --> 00:08:39,320 were both playing in different sense, we would we would want you to be 130 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,080 arguing by who got the better reptation. It shouldn't be it should be a 131 00:08:41,159 --> 00:08:45,120 question mark, and you should be ragging about which courses you've got, but 132 00:08:45,159 --> 00:08:48,519 it would be a good argument at the end of the week. I actually 133 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,960 think that you should have the country club players who are used to it in 134 00:08:54,039 --> 00:08:58,960 our low index. They should play the crappy courses. They should play the 135 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,440 ones with the most with the sand, the bunkers that are just like chunky 136 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,720 sand, because you know, let's see what these guys do. I always 137 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:13,639 felt like little leaguers, why do they have to play Little league baseball on 138 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,879 these fields that are have rocks on it and the balls were taking weird bounces 139 00:09:16,879 --> 00:09:20,840 and hitting them in the head. They're little kids, and that's the court. 140 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,799 That's the fields that the pros should play. On. If they're that 141 00:09:22,919 --> 00:09:28,000 good, let them play on the where there's instead of these pristine plays. 142 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:33,320 Yeah. I live about that too sometimes because when I play a course with 143 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,799 great greens, I know exactly what I'm doing wrong, and it's kind of 144 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,919 alarming that, Hey, yeah, I kind of want people in to shift 145 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,080 it right on the line. Maybe I do want it to hit a rock, 146 00:09:41,159 --> 00:09:46,279 put it back on track right the way I'm used to. Do you 147 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:52,519 incorporate any um private courses in the area? Are you using private courses? 148 00:09:52,519 --> 00:09:56,440 Of these all public? They're all public? Um, we used to have 149 00:09:56,639 --> 00:10:00,720 a couple of private clubs in the mix, like the doing club we used 150 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,240 to use for our championship round. I think about Mirdle Beach Golf is that 151 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:07,840 we're very tourists friendly, so of the I'm just a ballparking it here. 152 00:10:07,879 --> 00:10:11,480 Of the eighty or so golf courses in our area, you know, maybe 153 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:16,799 six of them or private or semi private, So we're very tourist friendly. 154 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:20,600 We don't have a lot of members specific golf courses because that's kind of what 155 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,480 Mirdle Beach is all about, you know, in very inclusive, no matter 156 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,759 of your ability, age, gender, or anything like that. Awesome. 157 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,399 Listen, we're gonna take a time out and we'll be back right after this. 158 00:10:35,879 --> 00:10:39,639 Give me some history here. How long has this been going on? 159 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,639 How did he get started? And how has it grown? Those three questions 160 00:10:43,639 --> 00:10:46,720 you can do driff on it. You got a lot of time to go. 161 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:52,639 Yeah. So it's it's started in nineteen eighty four and it was originally 162 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:58,960 founded by Golf Digest and some other partners that you know still to this day, 163 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,759 we are about tourism business here Myrtle Beach. You know, late August, 164 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,799 which is when the event is every year. It was always kind of 165 00:11:05,799 --> 00:11:09,480 a shoulder season between when the kids go back to school and maybe the golf 166 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,639 business in our area was not exactly you know, booming, So it's always 167 00:11:13,639 --> 00:11:16,559 existed to try to pump that tourism up at a time of year where we 168 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,960 could utilize some extra rounds of golf on the t sheets. And you know, 169 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,480 I think the first year we had six hundred and eighty four players in 170 00:11:24,519 --> 00:11:28,720 the very first edition and that was fantastic, I think, and then over 171 00:11:28,759 --> 00:11:33,320 the years it's just kind of casually grown. I've over three thousand players. 172 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,360 I think we hit three thousand after the first five years, give or take, 173 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:41,159 and for for thirty plus years, it's kind of hovered between anywhere from 174 00:11:41,639 --> 00:11:43,840 three thousand to four thousand participants. Um of course, you know, with 175 00:11:43,919 --> 00:11:48,360 the booming the Tiger area it was, it was really high, and so 176 00:11:48,399 --> 00:11:54,120 it's it's just kind of stayed steady with the amount of players that have come 177 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:58,200 through the ranks here. But we've always stayed true to the mission of trying 178 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,000 to keep the entry fees low in order to get you into town and just 179 00:12:01,039 --> 00:12:03,679 see what Myrtle Beach is about, because you know, people a lot of 180 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:07,279 people don't know about Myrtle Beach if you're from the West Coast, where you 181 00:12:07,279 --> 00:12:11,440 don't know how easy it is to get here, how valuable of a destination 182 00:12:11,519 --> 00:12:13,440 it is. You know, we're one of the best Buddies trips in the 183 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:18,720 country in our opinion, and the prices are very reasonable across town. So 184 00:12:18,799 --> 00:12:22,600 we just want as many people to know about it and try to get yourself 185 00:12:22,639 --> 00:12:26,240 on a plane and come and come see it. Okay, so I am 186 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,639 coming from the West Coast. I'm not planning on playing in your event, 187 00:12:28,799 --> 00:12:33,519 but I do buddy trips and I need to convince my Buddies, one in 188 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:39,639 Chicago, another one here in California. How do I convince them it's we 189 00:12:39,639 --> 00:12:43,039 should be meeting in Myrtle Beach. So we just signed up with Southwest to 190 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,799 have I want to say, ten non stop destinations bagflight free on Southwest, 191 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,679 So great partnership with them. We have non stops as far west as ls 192 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:56,399 Denver, Chicago, so we've got a lot of non stops just just across 193 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,480 the Mississippi. But even if you're you know, Salt Lake or l we've 194 00:13:00,519 --> 00:13:05,200 got one stop destinations through Charlotte or through Atlanta, So it's not as far 195 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,039 as a lot of people think. And we've got you know, with those 196 00:13:07,159 --> 00:13:13,159 route networks between Southwest Spirit Airlines in America. I mean it's it's not that 197 00:13:13,279 --> 00:13:15,919 difficult to hop on a plane. And you know, I like to joke 198 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,200 with people and not to down any other destinations, but you know, there 199 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:22,879 are certain places out west that you can't play one round and one night that 200 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,759 you could get three nights and three rounds here at Myrtle Beach. So might 201 00:13:26,799 --> 00:13:30,480 be a little farther to get to, but when you get here, it's 202 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,480 going to be a lot more valuable and similar to all to the golf. 203 00:13:33,399 --> 00:13:37,519 Okay, now you really captured my attention. Keep going on that price point 204 00:13:37,919 --> 00:13:43,679 you're talking about like playing playing one course and on the West Coast. So 205 00:13:43,799 --> 00:13:46,799 let's let's give you the World Am for an example. The World Am is 206 00:13:48,519 --> 00:13:52,480 five hundred ninety nine dollars for the early bird entry fee, and when you 207 00:13:52,519 --> 00:13:56,879 get here, you're gonna get four rounds of golf guaranteed. You're going to 208 00:13:56,919 --> 00:14:01,120 get open bar and free food for four straight nights for yourself and a guest 209 00:14:01,159 --> 00:14:05,639 if you have one. You're gonna get a gift bag that's filled with a 210 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,159 poll of a pullover towel hat, about three hundred dollars worth of retail goods. 211 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,879 And then if you're good, or even if you're not good, there's 212 00:14:11,879 --> 00:14:16,159 about one hundred and fifty thousand dollars worth of randomly drawn items to be given 213 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:20,799 away. So we've got great arners in the PGA Towards Superstore who help out 214 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,320 with that. But you know, I implore people, if you find a 215 00:14:24,399 --> 00:14:28,480 value to better value tournament on this planet, I need to see it, 216 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:33,399 because I don't I don't think it exists. Now you're doing this in August, 217 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,240 correct, it's always the week before Labor dat yep, so the this 218 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:43,000 year's event dates or August twenty eighth to September first. We always do it 219 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,279 that Monday through Thursday before Labor Day weekend. And what's the weather like in 220 00:14:46,399 --> 00:14:50,879 Myrtle Beach in late August. I'm not very good with humidity because I live 221 00:14:50,879 --> 00:14:56,000 in California, so I don't do well with the humidity. You knock me 222 00:14:56,039 --> 00:14:58,559 out? Do you get a little high? Like I said, it's it's 223 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:01,399 kind of that shoulder season of the kids are going back to school, so 224 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,440 it's still sour. It can. We tend to have some afternoon showers here 225 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,840 and there, but we try to avoid that. So every morning we've got 226 00:15:07,879 --> 00:15:11,639 eight thirty am shotguns, so we try to beat the heat and get out 227 00:15:11,639 --> 00:15:13,799 there before the rain could come in the early afternoon. So we still we 228 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:18,440 still understand that. Yes, you know, that's why the World End kind 229 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,200 of tends lends itself to a lot of participants from Florida, from Texas who 230 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,440 are actually escaping maybe some even warmer weather. But we love our friends north 231 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:31,440 of the border too. We've got a great relationship with the Canadian Golf Associations 232 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,919 and uh yeah, people come from oliver Every year we have over all fifty 233 00:15:35,919 --> 00:15:39,039 states represented, so they don't really care what the weather is like back home. 234 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,200 They just need to be here. People come from outside of the United 235 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,720 States as well, Yes, sir, of course, so we've got I 236 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:50,000 think last year we had about twenty six foreign countries represented, one of our 237 00:15:50,039 --> 00:15:54,159 biggest countries outside of Canada, which is kind of obvious there. Outside of 238 00:15:54,159 --> 00:15:56,879 Canada, we've got a lot of players from Portugal, Mexico, Brazil. 239 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,879 Those are so our highest tingents from outside of the country. And I know 240 00:16:03,039 --> 00:16:07,039 there's a few players every year the UK up on that list too. You 241 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,039 know, I would have too, but I you know, surprisingly they're not 242 00:16:10,159 --> 00:16:11,759 that high on the list. Um. I think there's a lot of great 243 00:16:11,759 --> 00:16:15,440 golf in the UK and not a lot of time frame in the year for 244 00:16:15,679 --> 00:16:18,159 golf. In August is one of those months, so it's tough to full 245 00:16:18,159 --> 00:16:22,240 people from from countries where they don't have a big window and that's their window, 246 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:26,200 right. Oh, okay, that makes sense. That makes sense. 247 00:16:26,559 --> 00:16:33,759 So I'm a I'm my late sixties and I'm hovering around let's say, I'm 248 00:16:33,799 --> 00:16:37,960 you know, around the single digit area back and forth, kind of sliding 249 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:42,120 back and forth in and out of single digit. How many people would I 250 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,720 be competing against? And what division would I be part of? Sure, 251 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,399 So I'll give you last year as an example of where you would be. 252 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,960 M Every flight is approximately fifty players, so we break them up into groups 253 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:57,360 of fifty. You would be in the sixty to sixty nine men's net division. 254 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,839 And if you let's just say a nine handicap last year after that division 255 00:17:03,839 --> 00:17:08,079 of fifty players was eight point five to nine point zero, so not even 256 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:14,440 a full shot for we're fifty players of those similar abilities within a half a 257 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,759 shot, and from there you do still compete net, but with such a 258 00:17:18,759 --> 00:17:22,799 small range, that might be a difference of one to two shots against another 259 00:17:22,839 --> 00:17:26,799 player throughout the course four days, So very tight knit. You're one of 260 00:17:26,799 --> 00:17:30,839 our most popular demographics in terms of who plays in this event. That's why 261 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,400 that range is so small. And how many people would be in that group? 262 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:38,400 How many guys would I be competing against? That would be fifty players, 263 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,720 so you would so ultimately you would want to be the whole course would 264 00:17:41,759 --> 00:17:45,000 be yeah, So we put two flights on each golf course, so one 265 00:17:45,079 --> 00:17:49,079 hundred total players on the golf course. Each flight has fifty players there. 266 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:56,480 Last year there were sixty two flights I believe, so you would make up 267 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,240 last year that would have been flight twenty seven twenty eight. We just number 268 00:18:00,279 --> 00:18:04,079 them straight down the way, and you know, if you are the winner 269 00:18:04,079 --> 00:18:07,559 of that flight of fifty players, you get the chance to play on Friday 270 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:12,839 after the cut down from thirty two hundred players down to about seventy or eighty 271 00:18:12,839 --> 00:18:18,799 players. Those winners all get to advance to play against each other for the 272 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:23,720 Jets. Have that world champion crowned. Okay, another quick time out, 273 00:18:23,759 --> 00:18:27,640 We'll go right back. This is our second week of the Tony Manzoni series 274 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:33,359 to start your new golf season. Thanks so much for your emails of support 275 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,960 and enthusiasm for continuing to share Tony's work. Now I'm not sure if you're 276 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:42,640 aware, but thanks to Golf Smarter ambassador Jeff Watson, I was reminded that 277 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:48,960 Tony was one of the founders of Callaway Golf and had created a signature putter 278 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:53,319 that I actually found on eBay and is now in my collection. This week, 279 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:59,000 Tony goes beyond swing Mechanics with an episode we Call to a chief success. 280 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:03,799 Make sure your intention matches your performance. If you love the game like 281 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,480 I do and you want to improve in the beautiful part about this cool concept, 282 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,400 as you can do it from your chip shot to your drive. It's 283 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:17,480 the same exact concept. You are connected at the left arm and you rotate 284 00:19:17,519 --> 00:19:22,119 your body through the target and it pulls a club through. The club can't 285 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,319 turn over, and you're going to hit really wonderful shots. That's Golf Smarter 286 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,599 Mulligan's episode two hundred one, number two of nine, featuring our friend and 287 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:34,039 mentor Tony Manzoni. Check the show notes to learn how to get Tony's book, 288 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:40,240 The Lost Fundamental One Simple Move Better Golf Forever and gain access to his 289 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,799 video of the same name. Please subscribe for free to or a sister podcast 290 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:49,799 that revisits the best of the Golf Smarter podcast called Golf Smarter Mulligan's being released 291 00:19:49,880 --> 00:20:02,599 every Friday from wherever you're listening right now. Back in twenty sixteen, I 292 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:07,880 did an episode five hundred and fifty eight with a young man named Justin Krybec, 293 00:20:08,519 --> 00:20:12,720 and he should have known about this. This would have been good for 294 00:20:12,839 --> 00:20:18,559 him because he knew he wanted to play in some sort of national open, 295 00:20:18,039 --> 00:20:22,079 but he wasn't good enough. He was a nineteen handicap, so he knew 296 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:23,799 he wasn't good enough, so he did some research. He ended up playing 297 00:20:23,799 --> 00:20:29,279 in the South Korea, I'm sorry, the North Korean Open. He snuck 298 00:20:29,279 --> 00:20:33,000 into North Korea and played in the North Korean Open. And it's a story 299 00:20:33,039 --> 00:20:37,480 that, like we kind of broke the story years after he did it, 300 00:20:37,519 --> 00:20:41,759 because after he finished, he came back where he was living in San Francisco 301 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:45,240 and went back to work and didn't tell anybody what he did that weekend, 302 00:20:45,079 --> 00:20:48,519 maybe because it was illegal. Can you even do that? Well, he 303 00:20:48,599 --> 00:20:53,079 had a passport from a European country as well his parents, and you know, 304 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,720 I think he was born in the Czech Republic or something, but he 305 00:20:56,839 --> 00:21:02,160 was able to flew to China, and then from China, I spent a 306 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:06,640 day or two, then flew to North Korea and played in their open championship. 307 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,599 And that's the punchline, is that he was he was one shot behind 308 00:21:11,599 --> 00:21:18,759 the leader going into the last round and kind of freaked out on the eighteenth 309 00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:22,000 hole because he wasn't sure what would happen if he won. So he had 310 00:21:22,039 --> 00:21:27,599 a quadruple bogey on the last hole to come in fourth place. But but 311 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:33,039 it's just an incredible story. He should have played in this and this would 312 00:21:33,039 --> 00:21:37,599 have made him champion way last lights in order to win a championship. That's 313 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:41,559 I've never heard that story. But man, that's that's a golf tale for 314 00:21:41,599 --> 00:21:44,240 the ages. Oh yeah, Oh, that's a great one. It was 315 00:21:44,279 --> 00:21:49,480 episode again, it was episode of five hundred fifty eight back from twenty sixteen. 316 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:56,519 Amazing. Um, do you have any great anecdotal stories of people who 317 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:03,319 maybe something that happened during the round or even that they use this as a 318 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:08,200 launching pad for other success for themselves. Yeah, I mean over forty years, 319 00:22:08,279 --> 00:22:11,559 you get hundreds of stories. You know, I can't sit here and 320 00:22:11,599 --> 00:22:15,640 say that anybody's gone on to greatness or glory. You know, at the 321 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,240 end of the day, some we're still fifteen twenty handicaps. You know. 322 00:22:18,279 --> 00:22:22,279 There isn't much else out there like this. But we do get a lot 323 00:22:22,319 --> 00:22:26,519 of stories just from exciting experience that happens over the years, and just some 324 00:22:26,599 --> 00:22:30,119 quick ones for you. You know, back in the nineties, someone made 325 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:34,000 a ten foot put to win a condo here in the area, So I 326 00:22:34,039 --> 00:22:40,160 think one year a woman hold out on the eighteenth hole of the championship to 327 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:45,400 win by one in the finals. You know, there's just so many things 328 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,680 that have happened. We try to have fun with it. You know, 329 00:22:48,839 --> 00:22:53,000 it is a competition, but like you know, we've got seven guys who 330 00:22:53,039 --> 00:22:56,680 have played all forty years. They've never missed a single year. I wish 331 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:02,119 I could talk to them every day and ask them there's stories. You know. 332 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,880 Some of the more interesting and kind of taboo ones are the fact that 333 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:12,640 we do scrutinize handicaps very very particularly so sometimes we have some very difficult conversations 334 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:17,400 that are necessary evil of the tournament. I won't go down that road, 335 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:22,039 but I think it's key to know that our event cares deeply about the integrity 336 00:23:22,079 --> 00:23:25,960 of the tournament, and that can be bad news for some, but generally 337 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,599 speaking, it's good news for the ninety nine percent. So I think that's 338 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:34,000 important for someone to understand when they hear about that connotation, you know, 339 00:23:34,039 --> 00:23:37,480 playing a member of guests all the time that you know, oh, I 340 00:23:37,519 --> 00:23:41,759 can't win that thing. There's there's these people out there that they're just they're 341 00:23:41,759 --> 00:23:45,480 always going to win because they're doing that thing, and we take that very 342 00:23:45,519 --> 00:23:48,480 serious. They are out here. Well, good for you. I'm glad 343 00:23:48,519 --> 00:23:52,680 you're maintaining the integrity here. I want to hear more stories of what people 344 00:23:52,759 --> 00:23:56,559 want. I want to hear crazy stories of what people want. Okay, 345 00:23:56,599 --> 00:24:00,319 So a twenty nineteen I believe, we had a one and from Germany who 346 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:07,640 qualified for one put from sixty feet and on her first attempt and only attempt, 347 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,079 she made the sixty foot put and took home twenty five thousand dollars. 348 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:18,599 Wow, it was incredible the crowd. I've never heard a louder roar she 349 00:24:18,799 --> 00:24:21,960 had. We had to ask if we could get paid in euros because she 350 00:24:22,079 --> 00:24:26,480 was from Germany, so we you know, I was a little afraid on 351 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,480 that insurance policy to make sure they got paid out, I'll be honest, 352 00:24:29,599 --> 00:24:33,440 But everything shook out just fine. You know, We've had some lot, 353 00:24:33,519 --> 00:24:37,000 a lot of good sponsors over the years, between golf dot com, the 354 00:24:37,079 --> 00:24:41,400 PGA to our SUPERSTOREM Dude. Pont was a big one back in the day. 355 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,519 That's what everybody counter refers to. But also the real estate business was 356 00:24:45,559 --> 00:24:48,559 one where we had that person take home a condo. That same person who 357 00:24:48,599 --> 00:24:52,000 won a condo also won the World Championship one year, so she maybe you 358 00:24:52,079 --> 00:24:56,559 could say that that woman was the pathway to greatness. She's won a condo 359 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,359 in the World championship. Who else can say that it's pretty good? That's 360 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:07,480 pretty good. Do you ever have like um divisions for parents and children or 361 00:25:07,519 --> 00:25:11,920 family members who play together, siblings, things like that. Yeah, So 362 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:15,200 we have a sub competition. We call it the Corey Lemky competition. That's 363 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:19,240 paying homage to Corey Lumky, who passed away, who was at who's father 364 00:25:19,279 --> 00:25:22,640 and son played in the event for a long time. So we created a 365 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:29,640 sub competition for parents and children in any sort of familial relationship to aggregate scores 366 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,279 into a two man event within the tournament. It's free to play in that 367 00:25:33,319 --> 00:25:37,000 event, just because we wanted to pay homage to that family. So it's 368 00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:38,599 kind of a fun way. You know, if you and I were father 369 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,640 and son, we wouldn't be playing all the same courses because of the fact 370 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,880 that we're not, you know, the same age and ability. So we 371 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,480 just combined the two scores compared to other fathers and sons, so we give 372 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,920 out a prize. That way, we actually have another event in the summer 373 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,920 called Family Golfweek, which has specifically meant for that relationship. It's Family Golfweek 374 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,920 dot com. You can check that out too. It's it's a great event. 375 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,960 It's the world's largest familial tournament at eight hundred players or about four hundred 376 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:11,119 teams participating in July. Here Myrtle Beach Family Golfweek dot com. That's it. 377 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,680 Okay, all right, so let's talk about registering. What it takes, 378 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,440 where to go? What did costs? What you get? Sure? 379 00:26:19,519 --> 00:26:23,359 Yeah, so Myrtle Beach World Amateur dot com. That's Myrtle Beach World Amateur 380 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:30,200 dot com. Every participant gets four rounds of golf guaranteed nightly interest to the 381 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,480 nineteenth hole, which includes open bar, free food, live music. It's 382 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,680 got a little minipga show for vendors and exhibitors, all sorts of games. 383 00:26:38,279 --> 00:26:42,680 Children are free, with the paid adult chance to win tons of prizes. 384 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:48,680 Then entry fee is five ninety nine through March twenty thirty. Got some tied 385 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,000 for that early bird registration. But if you are a new participant out there 386 00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:56,960 listening, we've got a promo code for new players golf Smarter that'll take fifty 387 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,599 dollars off that registration whatever the current registration fee is at time. Again, 388 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,599 that's golf smarter for any new participants who've never yet played in the event, 389 00:27:04,319 --> 00:27:08,720 okay, and that's for the pre registration or for any registration. It'll take 390 00:27:08,759 --> 00:27:12,440 fifty dollars off whatever the current entry fee is. Eventually the price will jump 391 00:27:12,519 --> 00:27:15,839 up to six ninety nine, but currently we've got an earlier promotion going on. 392 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:22,799 It's five ninety nine. Okay, so after March twenty third, so 393 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,559 from March twenty fourth on, it's six ninety nine. And what is the 394 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:33,680 deadline for entry? Because people listen to podcasts much later do yeah, yeah, 395 00:27:33,759 --> 00:27:37,720 so we we typically you'll close registration at the end of July and the 396 00:27:37,759 --> 00:27:41,480 price won't go up actually before March twenty third. It'll increase later in the 397 00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:44,640 summer, but we haven't sentis pretty much all year long TOI for a reason 398 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,799 to get signed up early. So for right now, it's we're given away 399 00:27:48,079 --> 00:27:51,440 I want to say, you know, drivers and irons and all sorts of 400 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,240 prizes as an incentive to sigeh up early. And then in April we're gonna 401 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,319 give away one hundred pairs of shoes thanks to true links where if you sign 402 00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,440 up by I want to say it's April twenty, so you've got all sorts 403 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,720 of reasons to sign up other than price. The price will go up eventually, 404 00:28:03,759 --> 00:28:07,279 but you know a lot of people get signed up by March. But 405 00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:10,480 if you don't hear about this until August are late June, you can still 406 00:28:10,519 --> 00:28:12,720 get signed up then at the current entry fee. Okay, So I just 407 00:28:12,759 --> 00:28:17,200 need to confirm what an amazing deal this is. So for the price that 408 00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:19,880 you've quoted, and if you've never registered before, you get fifty dollars off 409 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:26,119 with the coupon checkout code Golf Smarter one word. You get all the golf, 410 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:32,880 all your dinners, and your room room is not no room is room 411 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,039 is separate. Okay, that's what I need to make sure of. Okay, 412 00:28:34,079 --> 00:28:37,119 that would be a little too good to be true. That yeah, 413 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,720 that is way too good to be true. So you've got to have access 414 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:47,240 to a lot of hotel rooms. Yes, so I'd say we have about 415 00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:51,400 twenty two thousand room nights read across all the participants. So one of our 416 00:28:51,799 --> 00:28:55,440 harners in the Sheraton, which is where the nineteenth hole actually takes place. 417 00:28:55,759 --> 00:28:59,640 The nineteenth Hole takes place at the Myrtle Beach Convention Center, which is about 418 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,359 one hundred thousand square feet of just golf paradise. It's everything you could want. 419 00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:07,039 I'd like to say, if you can't have fun at the nineteenth Tull, 420 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,000 you're you're just probably not one person in general. But the great thing, 421 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,640 the Sheraton is attached for you the convention Center, So you can stay 422 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,559 at the Sheraton, walk downstairs, having your spirits, had your food, 423 00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:22,319 and then walk right back up to your hotel room. And I want to 424 00:29:22,319 --> 00:29:25,759 say that the hotel rate for them is I don't know, one hundred and 425 00:29:25,759 --> 00:29:27,599 twenty nine. That's a night for a world and participants. So it's still 426 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:32,119 and it's a great place. Yeah, two blocks from the beach, very 427 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,640 centrally plated, and you can just walk right down to the party every single 428 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,559 night. So yeah, but if you want ocean film, you've got that. 429 00:29:37,599 --> 00:29:41,519 If you want to have a condo that shoots the whole family, we've 430 00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:52,119 got that too. So tell me exactly where Myrtle Beach is located in Florida, 431 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,640 because I was recently in Florida went to the PGA show I went to 432 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,319 a wedding and down South Carolina. I'll jump in there. South Carolina, 433 00:29:59,599 --> 00:30:03,400 South Carolina. Well that's why it's not in Florida. Okay, So so 434 00:30:04,359 --> 00:30:10,680 it's north of Florida, right, yes, yes, see how good my 435 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,839 geography is. So we're no, okay, we're in South Carolina. So 436 00:30:14,279 --> 00:30:18,440 that's why the Grand Strand is kind of I'm sorry, but the Grand Strand 437 00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:22,599 is kind of another name that we utilize here. And we're in the very 438 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,359 northeast corner of South Carolina, so the Grand Strand kind of tips over into 439 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:32,160 North Carolina. Um. We run about sixty miles of coastline, um, 440 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,960 all the way down to Pauli's Island area, So very northeast corner of South 441 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,119 Carolina and then maybe a little bit into the southeast corner of North Carolina is 442 00:30:40,119 --> 00:30:42,400 where our golf courses go to. So you know, if you say at 443 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,920 the Sheraton, which is where a lot of people do, you know, 444 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,759 one of your golf courses might be thirty miles away, but most of them 445 00:30:48,799 --> 00:30:53,039 are in the ten to fifteen mile away range. Um, And we try 446 00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:56,119 to make sure you see a little bit of everything. So like I said, 447 00:30:56,119 --> 00:30:59,119 you'll get one north, one south, one central, and then we'll 448 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,799 call it the other one card. But you get to see a lot of 449 00:31:00,839 --> 00:31:06,960 the area. Another thing that you know, people really appreciate about our tournament 450 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,079 is is that if you've played ten years, you might not have played the 451 00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:14,759 same golf course twice, which is insane to think about, but it's possible. 452 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,240 That's crazy. Wow. Well, Scott, best of luck. Thanks 453 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:25,640 so much for the information. I hope the success this year is even greater 454 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,400 though you've ever experienced in the past. Well, thank you, Fred. 455 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:33,799 We look forward to seeing you guys at Myrtle Beach. Did you happen to 456 00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:37,920 follow the PGA Tour this past weekend where Kurt Kitty Yama won his first PGA 457 00:31:38,039 --> 00:31:42,799 title at the Arnold Palmer Invitational. Now, you know, I don't talk 458 00:31:42,839 --> 00:31:48,880 about PGA events, but what made this unique is that just before the event, 459 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:53,799 Kurt fired his caddy of four years and hired Tim Tucker to be And 460 00:31:53,839 --> 00:31:59,440 this is a quote from Golf Week at USA today, A calming influence when 461 00:31:59,519 --> 00:32:02,839 Kitty I'm needed him most. Yeah. I bring this up for two reasons. 462 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,599 One, Kitty Yama was a beast on the greens, and his lag 463 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:14,480 putting guided by Tucker was spectacular and two. Tim was featured three episodes ago 464 00:32:14,519 --> 00:32:19,920 in an episode we called reading greens like a Pro requires these five things. 465 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,680 Of course, I'm trying to get Tim back on the podcast to give us 466 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:29,079 an inside view of how each round developed and played out, but I can 467 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,480 imagine he's going to be busy for the rest of the golf season. I'll 468 00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:37,000 keep trying, but either way, congratulations to Tim and Kurt on the important 469 00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:43,680 victory. Again. Tim's putting tool is available at true aimmarker dot com, 470 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:51,160 True Aim True aimmarker dot com and to hear his story about the tool and 471 00:32:51,359 --> 00:32:54,960 how he approaches caddying at the highest level, he was on episode eight hundred 472 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,480 eighty two. 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Now, before we go, 490 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,599 I want to introduce you to a new podcast called in This Story with 491 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:27,920 Joanne Green. This is my wife's new show in which she shares short most 492 00:34:28,039 --> 00:34:32,880 or less than four minutes microessays set to music, showcasing tales and observations of 493 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:39,239 her animated life. Joanne's book By Accident, a memoir of letting Go, 494 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:44,440 is coming out this June. It's now available for pre order at your favorite 495 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,920 online booksellers. Actually, I'm in the book a lot, so when we 496 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,559 get to episode nine hundred this June, which is actually scheduled to be the 497 00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:59,440 same day as the book's released, I'm gonna have Joanne on to share stories 498 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,480 about me in our life so that you get to know us each a little 499 00:35:02,519 --> 00:35:07,639 bit better, so to build momentum for its release. She's publishing these podcast 500 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:14,639 episodes every other Friday. You'll definitely recognize her voice as she's who you hear 501 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:20,079 opening Golf Smarter and Golf Smarter Mulligan's episodes. Check out her website at Joanne 502 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:27,639 Dashgreen dot com. That's JOA n n E with a dash hyphen g R 503 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:34,239 e e ne dot com Joanne Dashgreen dot com. Please follow her from wherever 504 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,400 you're listening right now now. There are two available episodes already, and here's 505 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:45,000 the first one called I Shared a Cigarette with Jane Fonda. In this story, 506 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:51,320 I share a cigarette with Jane Fonda. I'm Joe Anne Green. In 507 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,559 nineteen seventy seven, the new film starring Jane Fonda was Julia. It's about 508 00:35:55,559 --> 00:36:00,840 the writer Lillian Hellman's lifelong friendship with Julia, a wealthy American who fought against 509 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:06,480 the Nazis when they invaded the university she was attending in Vienna. I worked 510 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,360 at KRI Radio in Berkeley, and it was rare for me to land an 511 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:14,960 interview with an A level celebrity. The publicist had instructed me to meet miss 512 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:20,920 Fonda at the Stanford Court Hotel on Knob Hill in San Francisco. Jane Fonda 513 00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:24,320 was not only an actress at the time, but a major anti war activist 514 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:30,840 an environmentalist, and that's what gave her hero status for me. I was 515 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,800 nervous as I knocked on the door of her suite, twenty three year old 516 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,199 me about to interview Jane Freakin Fonda. She answered the door herself, wearing 517 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:45,079 jeans and a sweater like a normal person. Woe. I'd expected a staff 518 00:36:45,199 --> 00:36:50,320 or at least a personal assistant. She seemed to be alone as she welcomed 519 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,920 me in so warmly. It was like we were longtime friends. The space 520 00:36:54,119 --> 00:37:00,880 was gorgeous but stiffly formal, with silk upholstered Louis the fourteenth I'll furniture in 521 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:05,119 various beige tones. I got the sense that she'd be more comfortable in a 522 00:37:05,159 --> 00:37:08,559 big burgundy velvet armchair. As soon as we sat down and I started setting 523 00:37:08,599 --> 00:37:13,760 up my cassette player and microphone on the mahogany end table, she asked, 524 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:19,280 Joe Anne, do you buy any chance? Have a cigarette? Actually I 525 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,360 do, I said, flabbergrafted that she needed something for me. Would you 526 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:25,400 mind if we shared one? I barely smoke and I don't buy my own, 527 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,360 but every now and then, like just right now, I want to 528 00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:32,480 have a few puffs. Happy too, I said, pulling my pack of 529 00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:37,559 Marlboroughs out of my purse. It was the hard pack I loved, at 530 00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:40,960 least at that moment in my smoking life, somewhere between the Anthony and Cleopatra 531 00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:46,400 skinny cigar phase and my brief run with menylated cools before finally quitting in nineteen 532 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:52,039 eighty. But I digress. We shared a cigarette, which I lit with 533 00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:54,840 a match before smelling the sulfur, a habit I maintained to this day. 534 00:37:54,840 --> 00:38:00,320 It's fells so good. It was like two high school girls sneaking a sig 535 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,719 before class. With every puff, I tried not to physically pinch myself. 536 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:09,039 Am I really here in an extravagant San Francisco hotel suite, chit chatting with 537 00:38:09,159 --> 00:38:15,119 thee Jane Fonda. One more thing, she said, before I hit record 538 00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:20,440 to start the actual interview. Can this cigarette be our secret? I have 539 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,320 a reputation to uphold, absolutely, I said, But for sure, the 540 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:31,360 statute of limitations is up by now, don't you think. Here's the feature 541 00:38:31,519 --> 00:38:42,239 that ran on kr radio of my interview with Jane Fonda. No. The 542 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,239 film Julia, due to open in San Francisco on November seventeenth, is one 543 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:51,480 chapter in the life of playwright Lillian Hellman. Jane Fonda portrays Lilian, who, 544 00:38:51,519 --> 00:38:53,840 in the film has a tough time integrating her success and fame with her 545 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:59,440 political ideals. The story is about a woman who is Jewish at the time 546 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,760 of the rye of Nazism, and the indecision comes about whether she is going 547 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,119 to go into Nazi Germany on a mission where if she was caught, she 548 00:39:07,159 --> 00:39:10,000 would probably be killed. Now it's all well and good for me to say, 549 00:39:10,119 --> 00:39:14,719 you know, I sort of make decisions very quickly. I'm not Jewish, 550 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:19,039 and this isn't nineteen thirty five Europe. And if I were confronted with 551 00:39:19,079 --> 00:39:22,159 those kind of things, I don't know how I would react. Yet, 552 00:39:22,199 --> 00:39:25,199 clearly, Jane Fonda has risked her reputation to speak out for what she believes 553 00:39:25,199 --> 00:39:30,119 in not my life. There are people in this country who have risked their 554 00:39:30,119 --> 00:39:31,760 lives and they're they're never hurt about, and they're not famous, and they 555 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:38,119 should be. And in that sense I identify with Lillian creatures of the media 556 00:39:38,519 --> 00:39:44,920 created into things that you know. Her career was not destroyed by the fifties. 557 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,599 My career was not destroyed. I am still I have more privilege than 558 00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:51,519 people should have, than anyone should have. I earn more money than anyone 559 00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:54,760 has a right to earn. And the people who are truly courageous are either 560 00:39:55,599 --> 00:39:59,639 unknown, some of them are dead. They've been destroyed, they've been run 561 00:39:59,679 --> 00:40:01,800 out of the country, are there in jail. On November seventeenth, two 562 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:07,079 opening shows of the film Julia at the Metro Theater in San Francisco will benefit 563 00:40:07,159 --> 00:40:12,880 California Public Policy's development of solar energy details on the solar coal proposal upcoming on 564 00:40:13,039 --> 00:40:16,159 Kaleidoscope. I'm Joann Rosenswig for KI re Public Affairs