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Jesse. Yeah, definitely excited to be back in the saddle here and looking
forward to talking some senators. How are you doing, buddy, I'm doing
good. I'm doing good. Victor knows how I'm doing because he is doing
the same. We're in the middle of heavy draft season. We did I
think in golf, Victor, they call it a shotgun start. I don't
know. They do that in disc golf too, but they put somebody at
every hole. I don't golf. I'm not a goal They put somebody in
every hole and then everybody starts where they are, so you don't have to
like all start on the first hole. But it's like a shot we did.
We got nine drafts rocking right now. We got the eight Fantasy Hockey
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got another one that I got to kick off tomorrow, and I'm finishing up.
We're finishing up the diesel. It's just everything is happening, everything everywhere,
all at once, Victor, are you surviving all these drafts? You
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This is unhealthy, Victor, we cannot make. We cannot make August
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next year. On the other hand, National Fantasy Hockey Draft Day sounds like
a pretty awesome day that we should definitely start working on. Don't you think
you know what? We could call it the third the third Saturday in August.
You don't want to pick a day for it a day. You want
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You don't want to start any old day of the week. You need a
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draft better on weekdays. But I think we should make that a holiday,
Victor, good idea. Yeah, let's do it, all right, Remember
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Hockey Life or at Victor Nuno twelve. Victor. We gotta get into this
talk. We got Ottawa Senators talk, and what a fascinating team. There's
a ton of players to talk about here, so we can wait no longer.
Let's talk Ottawa Senators. Right after that, we'd like to welcome tonight
a baby who's gonna tell us all about the Ottawa Senators. It is Murray
Pam of Full Press Hockey. How are you doing tonight, Murray? Oh
good. We just actually went through a big storm, a tornado warning and
there was a lot of hail. It just came down a little while ago,
but all the clearer there was a small tornado outside just outside of Ottawa.
It was actually a small one and we actually had a tornado as well,
touchdown on Friday. So it's just been a hectic few days here.
Oh my gosh, No, that's that's roight man. The things are rough
up there. We're getting a little bit of ore Wisconsin, but nothing like
that. No power all weekend. I had no power all weekend. Oh
wow, I think we didn't. We did a mess in the generator,
so we had that. So Murray, that's a mess. That's a mess.
Well, I gotta tell you, Murray, something that seemed to be
out of power a couple of years ago were the Ottawa Senators. But the
power is back on. The generators are running. However, predictions that Ottawa
would get all the way back to the playoffs this year might have been a
little bit premature. I was kind of thinking hoping something they would. They
moved from seventy three to eighty six standing points, which is only six behind
the Florida Panthers for the last playoff spot in the East. That is the
Stanley Cup finalist Florida Panthers. They played very active games. Shall we say
they're twelve point four PIM, we're first per game, we're first in the
league. Twelve point two for their opponents was second in the league, so
there were a lot of filling into the penalty box when they're out there.
Getting the most power playoff tunities in the league led to the second most powerplay
goals, also second place among Canadian teams whose city names begin with a vow.
If you get my drift on who had the most power play goals,
it's good. They got a lot of power play time because unfortunately, five
on five shooting was not a strength of the Senators seven point one percent the
worst in the NHL at shooting at five on five. Alex to Brinkett cam
Talbot came and went. They won't be part of the show's discussion directly tonight
because we're not previewing them as part of the next year's team. Big reinforcements
to be discussed later did come in, However, the cream of the prospect
crop is already in the process of breaking in the ProTeam. Not a whole
lot of huge names waiting under the surface, meaning hope for development that could
help the team rise, and of course the huge NHL narrative of the past
few months. Could new ownership change the face of this franchise, especially running
a bit higher of a payroll that we've already seen. So anyway, Murray,
what is the sense around Ottawa watchers of how much better this team is
going to be next year? You're in twenty twenty three, twenty four.
That's a good question. With the new owner in town, it's still unofficial.
But to the new owner, Michael Anlawer, he did attend to Sense
development camp and he was there and he was visible. He was shaking hands
with fans and taking photos. But that's his approval will probably be in September.
He's allowed gentleman or Pierre Durian to spend to the cap and actually right
now they're just under the cap, and they'll be over the cap once they
signed the restrict of free agent Shane Pinto, so they still have to make
another move prior to camp, prior to the season, optimism is high.
I know that the coaching staff is entering their final year of their contracts that
he just spent, will have a option for the following season. Pierre Duran
has two more seasons, but this season is definitely for management wise, is
definitely under scrutiny, have you scrutiny from obviously from the new ownership, and
nothing short of the playoffs will be accepted and be acceptable with this franchise.
And last season the production was fair that they would probably just be short of
the playoffs. Are challenging for the playoffs with that addition About's brink out last
year and then the addition of Jeff Chuck Jacob Checker and through throughout the season.
But they, you know, they just ran out of steam and they
ended up with the Shabbat and Chicken and Hamminick all injured in the last final
games. And of course, as you're awaring, Josh Norris pretty well miss
the entire season except for five games, So that another was another I guess
kick in the pants for that team. So they actually followed through them,
I mean with Shane Pinto stepped up and they did really well. To really
stay within that six seven point range of the playoffs spot all season. So
this season again the addition also of Joannis Corpusalo with the Anton Forsburg hopefully helped
the antonin Forresburk. He is skating and working out right now. He's apparently
has recovered from from his double double knee injuries, which was just unheard of.
But he has recovered. And like I said, nothing short of the
playoffs will be acceptable. But again it's gonna be tight race. Someone has
to fall, maybe a couple teams to have to fall, We don't know.
Again, the Florida Panthers this season. Again it's gonna be based on
Cirgate, Barbarowsky, Kenny carry him, how healthy will sorry, how we'll
spend their night do this season? And they're gonna be without their defense literally,
so you know they're going to the season with no Eclad, no Montour.
They lost the Radical Buddhist the free agency, so there's a team that
may fall out and the other team maybe could be the Boston Bruins. Obviously
we have no version on no Crutchy. We don't know. You know,
they lost obviously Bertuzi or lost the free agency they're just an unknown right now,
and I expect them to probably make the playoffs, but it'll be tight.
And then you have also the improvement of the Troy Redwins and the Buffalo
Savers who are also you know, also with Ottawa on the cusp of you
know, they're rising through the standings. So there's there three teams. Are
I think one of those three teams will make the playoffs. I don't know
WHI joint. Yeah, well, those are all good insights, and definitely
it's going to be interesting to see what happens with the other teams. But
we want to focus on the Sins and they're really interesting players. The first
one we're gonna start with Tim stooch La and Jesse and I really underrated this
guy last year. I had him coming in ranked as a seventy six best
forward Jesse one hundred and six. He finished the thirteenth best in Fantasy and
we both had him as Tier three guys, and we've corrected this year to
expect Tier one things from him. He had an incredible season thirty nine goals,
fifty one assists for a ninety five point pace, and pretty good in
hits, blocks and shots as well, he was twenty six at his position.
I have to admit I was really wrong about Stoochla. I did not
see this upside in him when they drafted him, or the first one hundred
and thirty games or so. And this deal that he signed eight years at
eight point three five is probably gonna end up looking like a pretty good bargain
for what it looks like he's developing into. So looking at statistical outliers,
I would say, really, the only thing that might regress is his shooting
percentage, which at seventeen was six percent above his previous average, but that's
really it. Everything else was kind of in line. So it seems like,
I don't know, Murray, can we expect Stoola to be an eighty
two hundred point player moving forward? What do you kind of expect from him
next season? I think that was an expectation. I believe that was also
expectation when they drafted Sula. I mean, right now they're calling him Tommy
Superstar around here. And he also missed what seven games due to injury as
well, so that he could have had another you know, five, six,
seven points as well. So I think what's expected from this year is
more of the same and continue, you know, continually to upgrade, and
I think he's he's probably I would think he would hit forty goals this season
if he continues his improvement and he's a workout of holic literally his his core,
he's so strong. I don't know, obviously, I have to have
the chance to see him unfortunately in the you know, in the in the
locker room, and he's got his thighs. I don't know if you ever
Daniel Opfordson and those guys. These are guys that you know, Martin Saint
Louis type. These people are you know, they're hard to knock, knock
knocked down, and they have a low center of gravity. And I think
that again, I think with his imagination and he controls play so much that
he also had you know, he has a lot of vision and he can
shoot the puck. So with him, Brady Kochuck, Terra Sanco now up
there, cool Drew and it depends on who they play with. Will probably
get into that a bit later, I think, and I need to do
one hundred is probably again what we're Timmy Stutsu will be. Wow, Well
you talked about Brady Kochuck. Boy do I love Brady Kochuck, Murray Victor
and oh my gosh, both Sam is a top ten player in fantasy hockey.
He certainly was, and both seeing him near the top again. This
year, Brady's fifth year in the NHL smashed his prior marks literally for the
first time. He averaged more than a point per game thirty five goals forty
it assists eighty three points in eighty two games. He averages well over four
shots a game that's fourth in the NHL, about three hits a game that's
eleven. That is a unique statistical profile. One thing that always puzzles me
about the guy, and this is just a nippick. And I don't know
whether you can do with anything with this or not beat Murray, or if
this is something that just comes from me looking at the wrong stats. But
boy, this guy's spread between goal scored and expected goal scored in a lot
of these models is always so wide. He has a steady ten percent shooting
percentage, but the numbers always think maybe from the range he shoots at,
he should be expected to make like almost almost fifty percent more goals per sixty
than he does. I'm not expecting to explain somebody else's mat. But is
there anything with Brady's shot selection or accuracy liking or is it just he gets
up so close it just shoves everything towards the net and so more of it's
going to get blacked in that spine. Anyway, I don't know if you've
got something on that. But could we dream on a ninety point Brady Kchuck
season for this year? I don't know. It depends on I think for
Brady it will probably depend on powerplay. Again, for pushing up to ninety
I think seventy five to eighty is probably I would think is a ceiling the
thing with Brady again, like you're mentioning about the shots, shot selections and
whatnot. He does have a good shot, but he tends to a lot
of his shots are like literally like at the goalie, so a lot of
them are smothered, you know, into the pads, into the chest,
that sort of thing. He does get a lot of goals in close,
so many goals in clothes. Obviously, he takes up a lot of space
in front of the net, and a lot of a lot of his goals
are within obviously sixty eight foot radius in front of the net. And he's
what he's really adaptive is tipping pucks. A lot he deflects. I don't
know the stat on that, but a lot of his goals are tips.
And if you've seen him at practice, he actually after practice will stand out
there on the ice for fifteen twenty minutes and all he would do to stand
in front of the net and tip pucks from you know, guys shooting from
the point. And that's all he does. He practiced that every single practice.
So I think obviously his outliers is he a lot of his goals are
in close. I'd expect them again. Obviously he reached highs and goals and
assists this year. I don't see why his those numbers would dip. Obviously,
they're a highly offensive hockey team, and I don't think anything will change.
And obviously to brinkat flipping for Terra Senko, I don't think there'll be
any difference actually in the offense replacement. So I think they're you know,
they're probably equal at this point, and so I don't see those members going
down. But he is, like you said, he's a unicorn. You
do everything, you know, the amount of shots he gets. He's actually
strong on faceoffs too, which he doesn't take tons of faceoffs, but he
also he's good on that ob sleep those four shots of game, I know,
anyway, from four to five shots a game. He's he's pretty safe.
You know, if you're a betting guy on the on the props,
you know, I would see like three and a halfs and four and a
half and he's he's pretty safe. If he's a three and a half.
He can do everything as well. And he's he's a great leader so as
well, which is which is something you know for his age, and he's
just getting He's also stronger. He's he's a big body. If you know,
when you see him, he's he's quite strong. There's nobody's going to
push him around. So he plans himself in front of the nut, you
know, like I said, he he positions himself to tip the bucks or
getting you know, get three bounds and get getting close. Yeah, for
sure, Claus YOURU preseason Victor and I both kind of had him underrated.
We thought maybe back into the top one hundred, and instead he was the
forty six best Fantasy player. The Wily Vets first year North of the Border
went very well. He is a firm, thirty five year old millennial Murray
and he's surrounded by a bunch of gen Z forwards in that depresses me now
that the millennials are the old people in hockey, and now we got to
look at the Zoomers as the young ones. Anyway, Jeru was third on
the team in points with seventy nine points in eighty two games. His thirty
five goals were a career best. Believe it or not for clau Jeru.
He took close to three shots through a hit every game. Really seems his
game has revitalized since leaving Philly in a lot of ways, first as his
rental in Florida and now in Ottawa. His finishing is nearly a career high,
as his defense remained at least part for the course. For his team
context, he definitely thrived most when he was out there with Katuck and Stutzla
about half the time. So he's going to spend two more years of his
mid to late thirties in the Canadian tire center. The arrival of a certain
additional Russian right winger who you may have already mentioned, replacing to bring it
in the top six, does that push Jeru off that top line and could
he not seventy points again Murray, I think he is. Seventy points is
very realistic. Also to note, he was fifty eight percent on face offs,
which is which is also another another key stat for fantasy. He did
very well on the face offs. Again. Yeah, the career high was
it was amazing, and I think he was rejuvenated for the fact back alone
he lives. His home is ten minutes from the ring. He's an Ottawa
guy. I know he didn't he wasn't born in Nova, but he grew
up in Ottawa. His sister lives in Ottawa, his parents live in Ottawa.
He played hockey over and got the goat no. And you know,
for for home, and that's what probably rejuvenated him. He's playing in front
of friends and family, you know, lifelong friends and family, and I
think the goal total, I think may come down a bit. I don't
think he'll be I think he's going to be more on this on the second
line, power play, and and also he's probably going to be ended up
shifting to the left side. He has played left wing in the past in
Philadelphia and I think that move may it could maybe hamper his goal totals because
he was used to playing right wing and center. Last year he didn't play
a lot of center, but he when he's on the ice, you know,
there's almost no positions anymore. I don't know, you know what I'm
saying, You guys are you know these versatile guys can't go anywhere on the
ice. And Drew does play a lot up the middle. He also plays,
you know, on the right side. I expect the assist total either
stayed the same or even go higher. And because he has done that in
the past, right he's reached you know, fifty to sixty assists, that
sort of thing that I expect his goal number is maybe to come down a
bit. But like you said, he is a re juvenative player. He's
well conditioned. He's actually he trains all summer long. There's a very fitness
grewer here called Tony Greco who's really demanding and he puts puts these guys through.
Heck, it's time to say to say Andrew. Drew's also training other
athletes as well in fitness, so there's something there and he's ready to go.
Like I said, I think his assistoto will go up. His goal
total maybe close. I think we'll be closer to thirty. He may reach
thirty, but I'm figuring like a twenty eight goal maybe. He said,
what do you of course, when do you get last eight? Eighty five
points arounting or eighty Yeah, he had thirty thirty five goals, and well,
I guess that would make forty four assists. Okay, So I expect
his assist total maybe being the fifty range, and then the goal total may
just come down a fraction. We still give me a valuable player obviously in
fantasy in that way, tremendous. And the next day we're want to talk
about Josh Norris. You already mentioned the injury. It was such a disappointment
for him after having a really strong twenty twenty one, twenty two, and
we had kind of projected some some big things for him, but disappointment that
he only played eight games due to that nasty shoulder injury. Seven years at
almost eight million, I think it's probably gonna end up looking pretty good if
he can continue to develop and progress, Although it does seem like Stoochla has
passed him on the depth chart at center at least for now, and is
making a little bit more so maybe based on the cap you get him,
get him a little bit higher in the lineup, But do you think does
that mean more Norris will get a fewer touches with the best players on the
team or what do you think can he can Norris bounce back and get closer
to that sixty eight point season, maybe even take a step forward after the
long rehab and time off. What do you think, Marie. That's that's
a good question. As Norris is healthy, which is one good which is
a good thing. There was some talk that they may not play him that
much or not play him in the preseason, just to just to ensure,
you know, preserve his shoulder. But they say the last time Peodorian spoke,
he said he was he was healthy and ready to go. I did
see Josh Norris probably a couple of weeks ago golf thing, so there's that's
a good sign as well. It was a torkin, you know, torking
his body and that sort of thing. So he was out there golfing in
a pro a pro am event in Ottawa. As for the numbers between the
Norris and suits, there are one, A, one B. So the
way DJ Smith's going to do it is ride the hot hand and see the
see you know, check out the chemistry between I think he might start on
the second line and maybe with a with a Drew and possibly a Drake Batterson,
but that's that's something you know, we have to wait till the preseason
and training camp to see how that all goes. But if they're definitely one
A, one B. But the one thing is that Josh Norris will still
get He's still going to play twenty minutes a game because that's what he does.
He kills penalties, he's on the power play, and he's also going
to be on the first power play unit as well, so he's still going
to get the same number of touches as you guys spoke earlier. Sentators get
a lot of power plays and he's still going to be on the power plays,
so he's going to kill penalties as well. So I don't think the
touches to go down. I think the assistant numbers will go up a bit
because obviously he only had seventeen eighteen assists and thirty five goals. And in
his full season that the prior season, and actually that was a partial season
he plays, he had thirty five goals, and that was only he who
played sixty six games years shoulder that season as well, so and most I
think he was fourth and power play goals, I believe when he had the
thirty five goals, so a lot of those goals were on the power play.
So I don't expect anything different than that. I think he could probably
reach thirty five goals. I don't know if he can reach forty. I
think the standard for him will be I think high sixties this season, providing
everything goes well, and providing everything goes well, I think the following season
will be the season where he'll see him. Maybe he jump to that seventy
five point guy, but he's definitely he scores more goals than assists, and
I don't see that changing because he has that shoot you know, that shoot
first mentality for a center, which is rare rather than a passer. So
I expect a goal total to be in that thirty to thirty five range and
the assist he plays a full season, hopefully a playfals season, he should
be over thirty assists. Well, that'd be great. Drake Batherson, we've
mentioned him a couple of times. Boy, he really turned in a nice
year. Twenty two goals, forty assists for sixty two points in a full
eighty two games didn't quite match that near point per game pace he was on
before an ankle injury took away a lot of his prior season, but he
certainly set a career high end points and presumably has entrenched himself in the top
six of the Senators. He throws a hit in a half a game.
He takes three shots a game, both of which again and Durham to us
fantasy types. He's been among the leaders in power play time on ice for
multiple years for this team. Who will Bathson line up with this year and
do you see any change in role or performance for him? I don't see
any changing role performance, believe it or not. Botherson was actually a little
bit disappointed with his season, even though he did get the forty assists he
would have. I don't know if it was bad luck or not, but
his twenty two goals. He was disappointed with his goal total, to be
honest, not something he's he wants to work on, he but the season
he put out there, considering he missed obviously that high Uncle Sprain, that's
that's an injury that could last even though you go back to playing. Those
are injuries that do that like it will act up on you for a long
period of time. And from what I was told, that type of injury
could last up to a year where you do feel some pain and that maybe
being I don't know if that would hurt his goal totals. But the one
thing with Batterston, he has great vision. You see that that forty assist
and like you said, Jesse, he was using his size and he was
throwing. You know, he is six foot four, I mean, and
you know in junior I'll go back to junior quickly, a little off base,
but he's grown five five or six inches since his second season in junior
so and put on about forty pounds. So that's that was crazy. But
yes, I think it's a CIS total will stay about the same. His
goal total I should go up a bit. I don't know if he'll reach
thirty, but you know, mid twenties, high twenties would be good.
And right now he's ticketed more than likely to be a second line right wing.
There's some talk of him actually going to the third line, but I
don't think that'll happen the way it stands right now and does just just in
case they do trade Matt Matthew Joseph or someone with that ILK. But right
now I think he'll still get second line minutes and he will be on the
power play as well. And so I again, at his point total should
be around the same and maybe maybe four or five more, you know,
with about four or five more goals. But last season, like you said,
hits is a big category, and he was throwing his weight around all
season. He's he's underrated and that you don't think Matters is a physical player,
but he kind of jumps out at you and he tries to hit everything
that moves, whether you know it's not powerful hit or whatnot. He's not
a strong hitter, but he does throw his weight around, you know,
in the defensive manner. And he said he you know, he's on the
four check, so he's not trying. It's you know, to throw hits.
Well, vlad Tarasenko is in town. He didn't sign quite as quickly
as some of the top free agents this offseason, but the thirty one year
old is now there. He didn't keep up his point per game pace of
twenty one twenty two, but he had a respectable eighteen goals thirty two assists
for fifty points in sixty nine games between Saint Louis and the New York Rangers.
Twenty one of those points where in those thirty one games with the Rangers
as a rental, where he scated only fifteen fifty five a night, the
lowest ice time for him since his pre breakout sophomore year. Dipping from three
shots per game to getting close to two per game is a little bit worrisome
for what we hope for from Tarasenko, but again, partly that was a
factor of ice time and the role he had with a very crowded offensive roster
in New York. He still takes a hit per game, even after these
years and the injuries. He blocked a shout with his hand last year and
he missed most of January for it, but otherwise he didn't miss time from
that nasty shoulder injury that took a couple of years out of the middle of
his career and really kind of messed it up. His defense does not rate
out as very good at this point in his career, so that could be
something that the Senators will have to account for with where they put in.
But where do you think Tarasenko fits into this team? Is he going to
get power play time on ice? Could he put up another seventy points?
What's lad Tirasenko going to be in a senator's uniform? Well, I'll just
give you this. Tuesday, we had the opportunity to speak to Vodoman Tiarasenko
and he said there was a number of factors and he didn't get into it,
but he said there was a number of factors the last season they ended
up having this twinning season. I think there was part of the he's going
to be a free agent type of thing. And remember there was some issues
in St. Louis and they exposed him this mansion draft the year before,
so he was I don't know if his head was in the right place last
year. And then then move and you could argue with the Rangers moves again,
getting Patrick Kane and Tarasenko, was it really good for them or is
it just too much and you know, throwing too many like star players into
the into the mix and it just it didn't work out for them at all.
And but Tarasenko says he's here. He says, right now, for
one year, and he's looking to get back to where he was the previous
year. Of course, the previous year, after the shoulder surgeries and being
exposed to the expansion draft, he put up the most points of his career.
He had eighty two points. Now when they get eight two points this
season, I don't know. I'm not expecting eighty two points, but I
am expecting a typical thirty five goal, you know, thirty five thirty.
It's this maybe season from Tarasenko. It looks like right now he said he
wants He said he had he was open to playing the left side, but
prefers playing the right side. He's always put the right side. I asked
him the question, but that where he would play where he goes on say
ultimately they add talk to the coach, but he goes I've always played the
right side, and I've never played the left, even though he does shoot
left. So keep prefers, you know, the you know, playing on
the off wing at all times. Now, prefers playing on the off wing
at all times. He's probably going to be playing on the first line with
either obviously Colchuck Suzel or Colchuck Norris. So I expect first five minutes.
You know he's going to play probably eighteen to twenty one minutes a game,
I would think, and less obviously the game's close or they're up by a
goal or whatever, then might slide a minute, slide down a little bit
because then you're gonna see a Drew or Bathurston or someone play a little bit
more because it's you know, for defensive purposes. But I think the thirty
five goal, you know it's sixty five to seventy five point range. I
think it will be will be the norm I think this season for Tirasenko or
the hope for Tarrasenko. And he will also get first the first unit of
power play minutes, so I again I think he'll put up better numbers than
last season. And providing obviously injury obviously obviously he said he missed some time
last year. But I think he knows where he is for a year.
He's got a no move clause, he's not going anywhere. He seems to
be in the right place and that they kept saying that, and it was
a family decision, and he really wants to be in Ottawa, and obviously
he's looking at a future contract. Whether it's an Ottawa or someone else.
So I think the expectation for himself is he needs to put up big numbers
as well to get another five million dollars six million dollar contract because he's thirty
one years old and you know, it's gonna be a bit harder to get
those contracts. So for him personally, whether you know, for him personally,
he's going to have to score those thirty five goals to earn another another
contract, you know, for another two or three years. So I think
he will return to, you know, to that level. Well, we've
there's so many relevant forwards on this team that we're we're just going to abbreviate
the last couple of these guys. We got, Dominiqu, Kuba Leak,
Ridley Grieg, Shane Pinto. I'm just gonna maybe have you rank them,
just as a quick set up. Kober Leak, if he could get more
ice time, it always seems like he'd be great. He stuck around fifteen
minutes of ice but a solid forty five points last year. Ridley Grieg,
I've often he mentioned, is maybe the third line left wing on this team.
He barely played last year. He's you know, brand new he's a
rookie. He was six on the team and points per sixty though the time
he got on, and Shane Pino played eighty two games last year, twenty
goals, fifteen a sist, sixteen minutes a night, and he even got
down ballot all Rookie votes. I don't know if those votes were from you,
Murray, but what are the how would you order these guys? Yeah,
we we're not okay. I actually had Jake Sanderson second for the for
the Calder, and I did not actually vote Shane Pinto at all. Actually
he either on on the All Rookie or any any Calder votes to be honest,
but anyway, either or not. Kuba Leak, I think he'll get
forty five points last year twenty twenty five assists with Detroit. I expect him
maybe seventeen goals, forty points. He's may not get power play time very
much with obviously with their top heavy firing injury, I can't see him getting
a lot of power play time unless he's on the second unit, who does
Obviously a second units obviously don't get as much power play to power play time.
So I think fifteen sixteen minutes a game on the third line. I
project him to actually beat the third line left wing at this point. Obviously
with Drew playing the left wing, I would think now on the second line,
and obviously Brady's Brady's Brady. He's so on the first line. So
I think the release, unfortunately for him, is going to get some third
line minutes and a little bit of power play time buying firing injury Shane Pinto.
Shane Pinto the good thing for him, I think he will still get
second line power play time. He does kill penalties, so there's that,
and I expect him to get fifteen to eighteen minutes per game and be in
line probably about the same season, maybe up as assist rate playing with playing
with the Kugger leak all season, and I expect around forty points for Shane
Pinto. Really, Greg, I don't even know if he's gonna be on
the Ottawa Senators, and I'll tell you that right now. To start the
season with him with Kuga Lea Pinto, maybe Matthew Joseph on the right side,
there's no fit for really Greg unless Matthew Joseph gets dealt. The fourth
line right now on the last side will be Parker Kelly or Eury Schmeckel,
who is a European free agent. I think he played in Finland last year,
believe, and he's obviously he's a check and they're really high on him.
He had a really good World World Championship performs and on the pick performance,
they expect him actually to make the roster. They're kind of banking on
it. So I think, really Greg will get more playing time in Belleville,
but again, training camp, preseason, it's hard to say, and
I think I Ridley the rights, not at least on the third line.
I think they want him playing eighteen to twenty minutes in Belleville every night,
So that's that's something again to look at. But he's definitely going to play
ANHIL games this season. He's probably obviously be the first guy up injury or
something something or something happens. But again I'm not one hundred percent sure he's
going to start the season. Training camp, preseason, will you know,
will be well be up to him obviously, see you know how he does
and how he performs. I kind of want to get to the defenceman here,
Marie. I mean, there's there are a lot of guys to talk
about on this team, But there's some really prominent defenceman here, and Thomas
Shabbat is the first one that we'll mention. It's a very crowded blue line.
He's carried a very heavy load ever since Eric Carlson left. I ran
the numbers. Since twenty nineteen, there have been four hundred and twenty four
defensemen who've skated at least fifteen minutes of ice time. Shabbat's average time on
ice during that time of twenty five forty five is second only to Drew Dowdy
over that time. He's missed a bit over thirty games over the past three
years, so the Nixon tears are adding up from all that usage. Definitely
got help now to alleviate the burden this year. His productions quite steady ten
goals, thirty one assists, forty one points and sixty eight games. Last
year is dead on for his points per sixty for three years running. He's
pretty much very consistent there, two blocks, one plus hit, two plus
shots per game. His power play time and I has dipped a bit towards
the end of the year. Again, this is a team that gets a
lot of power play time on ice, so there's plenty to go around,
one would think, but there's also several defensemen to take it. Do you
expect that Shabbat? And we'll talk about the arrivals that are probably crowding him
a little bit. But is he going to get the same heavy minutes production
and role this year that he has in the past. I don't think so,
and I think that's on purpose. Obviously, he said he's played too
much and his body has been you know, he's been wearing gown. He
does play too much, and that's when he does play too much, and
he's prone some defensive miscuse. But again that's just being tired literally, and
they I think they're going to probably try to cut his spins down, you
know, a couple of minutes a game. Obviously, getting Jacob tickerin,
hopefully healthy playing a full season will do that. We're not sure who even
Shabad is playing with. It will be again Art tim Zoo, will be
Jacob Chickran. We don't know as far as the power play goes, so
I guess the latter end. Before he got injured, Jake Sanderson was starting
to get a lot of play on the number one unit as well. Jake
Anderson's got great vision, great shot. He's one of the best skaters in
the NHL at a chance to really, you know, to see him play
a full game, and he's only going to get better. Some people project
him to be a Norse Trophy candidate, you know, you know, three
four years down the line, and that's how that's how good he is and
how much potentially has. It's one of those steady Eddie players who you know,
and especially in his first season, you've seen it, so I don't
have to tell you too much about that. But sa Anderson, I think
we'll cut into the sum of the playing time. So you have a you
have a you have three players. Obviously you're gonna have one defenseman on the
first power play unit, two on second unit. I think you're going to
see a bit of a rotation to keep them all playing because they're between Sanderson,
Chickeren and she bought. You know, they're very good offensively. So
you got the three. So I don't think there's gonna be a steady person
on the number one unit and a pair on the second unit. I think
they're gonna maybe play rotation, and again depends on maybe who has a hot
hand during during the game. I think it's going to be one of those
things where the coaching star is gonna, you know, feel out the game
and then put who they you know, who they think should be on that
unit in that game. I don't think there's gonna be a particular number.
It's it's gonna be different. I guess a lot of teams don't do this,
but I think I think you're gonna see they're gonna look at the minutes
played and they're just gonna base everything on there and just and just maybe rotate
them through because obviously, as you're aware there, Sanderson, Chickeren, and
Schabat are all very good offensively. Yeah, I'll have the offensive potential.
Shabat's probably gonna get again same range forty to fifty points. Chickern healthy.
Chickern again, you know when he said eight, he's not healthy all the
time. But Chickeren, you know, he got thirty three points last year
in forty eight games. Even if he plays seventy games, you're looking at,
you know, over forty points for him, forty plus points, so
and he has potentially to get fifty points. And Jake Sanderson got to thirty
thirty one points last year in his rookie season. He's going to play more
minutes this year, and I think that number is also going to push you
around forty points. So you have three defense when you can equally distribute this
This team, as you as you say, is it's a highly powered adds
some highly powered offensive. They put up some great numbers offensively, So if
they can only score five on five, that's that's again, that's a key
for that team. There'll be a dominating team if they can score five on
five. I've improved those numbers with the eighth ran power play, and I
think most of the season they were anywhere between two and five on the power
play. They can if they you know, stay around you know, eight
to five to eight and they can improve their five on five play. Just
that increase of numbers and per game in pretty good goals per game should gain
a few more points in the standings. I'm not an analytic sky, but
just common sense is that you're gonna if you score more five on five combined
with a good power play, you're gonna score I reach more goals per game
than that will give you more wins. Obviously. CHICKGRN Obviously he missed some
games with injury and sitting out. When he was playing, he had at
fifty six point pace with a whole lot of block shots and hits two years
left at four and a half million. You know, obviously only twelve games
with Ottawa, so maybe hard to kind of say, but as you mentioned,
probably we'll get some power play time and probably can get some pretty decent
time on ice and increase those those counting stats that we love, right,
I think you said, you know, I think he can hit that fifty
plus point mark again, Jacob Kicker if if he plays a full season,
if he does play, you know, seventy plus games, and yeah,
he's definitely gonna hit fifty points. He's also motivated to another guy, just
like Clod Drew speaking about Jacob Trickham is an Ottawa guy and he grew up.
He grew up in Ottawa. His cottage. They have a family cottage
just outside the city, even though he was born in Florida and they the
family did move to Florida in their later years. Obviously, his dad,
Jeff, is actually an analyst on the Florida Panthers broadcast, but they summer
in Ottawa. Regardless. They have a cottage like such a family cottage outside
Ottawa, so he's always been around, being all around. His grandparents are
here, so his family's here. So again you got a motivated player like
a Clod Drew. So I think, you know again, he's going to
come. He comes to the rink and he wants to put on a show
for you know, for his family. And yeah, I think fifty points
is not out of the realm. Well, you said Jake Sanders was a
guy who was all the way up in your voting last year. He certainly
had an exceptional years. Actually the thirty eighth best defenseman for fantasy purposes,
which is no slouching. By the end of the season, he was skating
the most minutes of any defenseman on the team had for chickering and Shabbat were
shut down. He already had nearly as many minutes on the top power play
as Shabbat last year. So what are we looking at with Sanderson? Is
this this thirty two points to seventy seven games that we had. Is that
kind of going to be his role or do you expect a bigger breakout for
his second year. I don't know what the goal totals, but this totals
are going to go out. I think he's going to be consistently one of
those guys who is gonna get anywhere from eight to twelve goals, and eventually
I think he's going to get you know, forty plus forty assists range.
He has that potential. Also, looking at his minutes, I don't know
if he's gonna do that this season, so project him that high. I
think he may be closer to forty points this year, but I think as
you know, as his career goes, I think he's gonna be up to
the fifty point range for sure. And he's just that good of a player.
Also, when you compare him, you look at all in Power,
and that is why some people question me, why did I put Jack Anderson's
second. I've bumped all Empowered to third for the caldern JACKX Anderson plays meaningful
minutes. Bale Power did not look at it that way. Go Empower did
not his penalty kill. He only played eighty six minutes on the power on
the penalty kick kill all season. Jacks Anderson, I believe was the most
amount rookies for defense, and I believe I'd have to backtrack, but I
believe he was second or third in the entire NHL for defense when in peking
minutes he had well over two hundred and two hundred and twenty or two hundred
and thirty minutes on the PK. So there is that he has. I
mean, I don't know if that has fantasy value in any way, but
he does if that's shop walking because he's on the PK. But again,
as far as part of the player, I think his potential is probably the
ten is up up around the fifty point range. But I believe this season
he's probably gonna he's going to get increased those numbers. He's gonna get a
little bit more power play time, which he didn't get last season until,
let the latter part of the year obviously, when when Shabat was injured because
Branstrom was playing, they had, you know, they had you know,
fill and defenseman until he got acclimented to the NHL. So then Tanderson got
a lot more power power play time. So I think forty points of this
season is realistic. Yeah, and you just mentioned Branstrom is the next guy
I wanted to ask you about. I've been a fan of his for a
long time. I really was hoping that he would have a little bit more
opportunity and be able to demonstrate a little bit more what he can do.
But his underlying numbers are really great. If you look at his expected goals
for goals against, he's really up there in the top, you know,
twentieth percentile of the league. But he gets limited opportunity. But if you
believe in the two hundred game played threshold, he's right there. He's just
you know, first ten games he'll hit that he could still emerge, you
know, as being a really solid defender. But of course he has those
three big guys that we just talked about ahead of him. But he also
only got the sixth time on ice of any Senator defender, just barely more
than Jacob Bernard Docker for the limited games he played, and behind Artom Zoob
and Travis Hamineck. So do you think that Branstrom can continue to develop and
have you know, more of a role than being the six sixth most time
on ice for any senator defender. Unfortunately, I don't think so, and
I know his underlying numbers do show that he has that he does have potential,
But I think with the players in front of him. As you just
mentioned, I don't see a way firing an injury. Unfortunately that he's only
he's going to be a five sixth defenseman with the Senators, and he mean
out of NBA five six defenseman with the Senators. That's that's something else at
the moment. Obviously discussed it just right at the beginning there. They need
to sign restrict your free agent Shane Pinto. They only have three hundred and
seventy five thousands to spend. Someone's got to go. And they also have
Tyler Clevin obviously waiting, and Jenny Jacob Barnard doctor Jacob doc docor cannot be
waived this year. He's not waiver eligible, so there's that. So and
they resigned Javis Hamanick. So by resigning Hamaneck, I think they might have
Hamstrom Branstrom to a point where you basically have you could have a eight defenseman
if you include Clubbin and I think they want a physical player on the back
end on the third pair. So because of that, you might see a
Tyler Clevin get some games in with Hamaneck. And I don't know where,
So either Jacob Bernard, Docker or Branston. One of them may may end
up going to be honest, and I don't know, you know if you
because if you want a physical back end on the third there, that pair
will also kill penalties because a lot of the Senators Shabbat kind of shies away.
They shy away from killing colonies, and you know, so there's certain
guys you don't want killing colonies. So basically, again, I'm not sure
I Branston's going to be a full time player on the Cenators or shure.
It'll be tough to say, but I think someone's going and by signing Travis
Hammanick and giving him two years, I don't think he's going anywhere. So
it's going to be interesting to see how September plays out on that back end.
It's something to watch and just obviously we'll see how it plays out.
But I think Clubin's going to get in there somehow, whether he's the five
or six. So I think it'll be on the third pair. And will
Hammonick be despair, will burn our Doctor'll be despair? I don't know.
So it's again it's an interesting situation, but I don't see Branstrom if he
is on the roster. I don't see him, you know, obviously moving
up to the second pair, So I don't I think he'll be exactly what's
last season and get to the third pair of minutes. Well, frankly,
as someone as a fan of his, I wouldn't mind if he moved to
a different organization got a different opportunity. We'll have to see. But you
bring up some really good points about the d let's switch over to the goalies
now and last season the center's rank sixteenth and expected goals against for sixty,
but conceded the twenty first ranked actual goals, so they were a little bit
behind. And they went out and made a big free agent signing with Unice
Corporate Salo after he had a pretty good season with Columbus and then went to
LA obviously and overall had some pretty decent numbers, although he's had a pretty
up and down career. I would say five years at four million is not
like a massive investment. And of course they have Anton Forsberg who seems like
he did pretty well and limited action. He has two years left at two
point seven five, so it seems pretty clear like they brought Corporate Salo and
to be the starter and Anton Forsburg maybe to be the backup or the one
B. So what do you think we can expect from these two? Do
you think that Corporate Salo can keep his up year trajectory going. I also
wonder if how the fit is for the defense in front of him, because
he's a guy who seems to thrive in certain situations, but maybe struggle and
others. So what do you think we can expect from the center's goaltending next
season? I think with the defense as is within, with the core getting
Chickern, I think Sanderson, you know, going with second year Zuphaba thought
sort of those guys. I think the centers will be better defensively this season,
especially if you get if you can get full seasons out of out of
these players. Corporatelo he finished really well in LA I think what's seventh,
three and one and re call his goals against, but it was in the
low twos, I believe, and he obviously wrote that wave into free agency
and on time. Forresburg is healthy as far as we know, and he's
been working you know, he's been working out and he's ready to go as
well. I suspect Forresburg is what he is at this point, he's a
decent you know, but some decent numbers. He's in the middle of pack.
I think Goldie's in the NHL, and I think I don't see that
being any different as far as Corpuslo goes. If he can ride. You
know what he did in LA into this season, that's a that's a solid
pair, and they were actually a pair at one point in Columbus. I
believer in the in the farm system for the HL. They want a cup
together as a as a duo in the HL, they want to call it
the Cup. And I think my projection is Corpuslo will probably play I would
think forty five games Presburg played, but you know, thirty five sort of
thing, thirty seven providing again low injuries. And I think the centers will
probably be as far as the goaltending goes, probably like in maybe twelve range
and that you know, they'll be better in the defensively, they'll be better
than they did last season. How much better, I don't know, but
I expecting, you know, decent seasons from them from from the pair,
That's what I would think. And again the defense I think will be better
as well. So I don't think they'll give the many goals against, So
I think on the whole, I think the goaltending, providing they stayed the
way they are, I think they'll just obviously get a little bit better as
well. And obviously with the experience of the team's the young team and they've
just been obviously they got you know, they're on the cusp. They're better
last year, and I think this should they'll be a little bit better.
You know, every year they're going to get a little bit better. So
I think the goaltending I think will be solid to share. Unfortune for last
year, Cam Talbot ran into a string of injuries, was injured three different
times and he just he just could never get it going last year, so
that limited them. They went through seven goalies last season, which is a
record for the team, believe it or not. In double they went through
thirteen goalies in the HL team, so that was that was an insane number.
And again I think they'll probably in the middle of the pack, maybe
in the ten to twelve ranging in goaltending next season. Wow, well that
would make the difference with a young team like this to get some great backstopping,
bring back the spirit of the Hamburgler to try to empower them through.
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Wilson. Then well let's get fired passed off. Oh my goodness, grow
one goal with a cat quick grab. Now it's your weekly goalie talk with
Kats Silverman, Cat's Instincts. All right, time for another edition of Cat's
Instincts. Ottawa Senator's Goalie Edition. Cat Silverman joining us from in goldmag.
We have a few here to talk about. They have some really interesting goalie
prospects and the first one that we're going to talk about is mad So Guard
twenty nineteen second round pick, six foot seven. That's huge, one hundred
ninety eight pounds. The Great Dane split the season between the NHL and the
HL this past season, so it's nice to see him actually get some NHL
games. There were nineteen of them, almost as many as the HL games,
and he did almost in as bad and both of his and all of
his appearances that numbers really didn't look good either. Ottawa rolled out five goalies
this past year in the NHL, of course varying number of starts, but
so Guard had the worst goals save above expected at negative nine point five two
at even strength as Delta, Fenwick was one of the worst. If you
look at his hockey prospecting though, it really does look good. He has
a really nice trajectory. He's been between fifty or forty eight and fifty sixty
three percent chance of being NHL or his whole time he has. I wanted
to pull up a comp to another great Danish goaltender, Frederick Anderson, who
definitely looks better in this model than so Guard, but Sober doesn't look too
far behind. And one of the best comps that I found for him,
or might maybe realistic comps, was Mackenzie Blackwood, who has been this up
and down sort of starter. He's had a pretty decent role in the league.
Yeah, we have to know what your instincts tell us about Mad so
Guard. Oh boy, I've been trying really hard to root for this kid.
I spent a little too much time watching film for him his draft year,
just trying to figure out what to like about his game, and there
was almost nothing. He's huge, like you said, but he's like you
said, you think he's six seven and he's like one ninety. And if
that sounds skinny to anyone listening, it is. And it shows he's got
really good reach, he's got really fast feet, and he has so little
limb control, so he opens up a lot of holes, and he's really
good at getting across the I when essentially he over commits somewhere he can stop
on a diamond turnaround and really get that reach. So he gets those desperation
saves incredibly well. But he at least during his draft year, he made
way too many of those, and I watching him, I was like,
this isn't the kid I'd want to draft. And then he got drafted anyway,
and he got drafted super high, and I thought, that's fine,
And I think he's getting there. I just don't know how much more he
can get there, just because I think he needs a technical overhaul to his
game in order to really reach a place where we see consistency from him,
Because that's the big red flag for me, is that he's just inconsistent,
which is a large part and due to the fact that he's so tall and
his limbs are so long, and he has so much that he needs to
rain in, which is hard to do when you're making explosive quick movements.
So he has to get his tracking more under control. He has to keep
himself a little closer to his goal line, he has to stay within the
blue paint a little better, and he has to stop opening up so many
holes for people to shoot on, which I think is why when he did
make those NHL appearances, we saw so much exploitation of his game from people
who really know how to pick corners when they shoot. So we'll see where
that goes. It might have been a wake up college. He's a super
upbeat kid. He's really nice. He's very willing to learn. I just
think he's got a little bit of an uphill battle to face when it comes
to that learning. So we'll see. All right, it's a real multi
national event here because the next goalie is finished. Levi a marline in that
we're going to talk about. And they got They got him in twenty twenty
third round pick. He's a six foot three, one hundred and seventy four
pound came up in the car pad system. I know you've cited that as
one of the best development systems in Europe, especially for goalies. He got
his first taste of the NHLAHL this past season, where he had just a
handful of games of each. Before that, he was actually in the OHL
last season, a strange development path there he was with the front knacks,
the round numbers didn't look so good there. This season he was mainly back
in car pat on loan where he looked pretty good. I know, I
think his equivalence he's a little bit low because he was in that he didn't
play a whole lot of games in the Liga. Previous to this season he
was at the U eighteen and U twenty level and then he was in the
OHL. But this past season really strong Liga campaign. But again his equivalence
right now is just nineteen percent chance of being an NHL which is low.
And a couple of his best comps are guys like Miko Koskinen and Mike Condon
tweeter backups. Yeah, that's a fun one, okay. Tell us to
see your instincts about Marylyna and do you think he has a good chance to
be better than Mike Condon. I think most goaltenders have a better chance,
have a chance of being better than Mike at the NHL level at least,
which is too bad. My Content's a nice kid. No. I think
it's interesting because, like you said, he came from the car Pop system,
and he entered that system at the same time as you all. Blomquist,
who is one of the Pittsburgh draft picks that they made when they took
a whole slew of goalies so they could hoard prospects. He was right below
Justice and Noonon, and I believe there was one other prospect in the system
at the time, now, Nicholas Coco, who was a I believe second
round pick for Seattle. It's also in that system. So just a wealth
of NHL bound goaltenders in that system, and he was below both Blomquist and
a noon in the system. So, like you said, handed up playing
when Blomqwist was in the U twenty and a Noonan was at the I believe
that not the league level. He was the steploid and Mesty. You saw
Marylinen playing in the U eight team, which made it seem like he wasn't
quite ready for that jump, and in reality, I think they just wanted
to make sure he was getting those game reps and getting the development time,
and so at each level he's been moving up just right behind Blonk Fist and
doing really well at each level. I thought he had some really nice looks
last year. He did not amazingly well during his NHL debuts, which the
fact that he made an NHL debut last year it is indicative of what Idawa
went through. They hit themselves a moment, but he did really well in
the NHL when he got a chance to sneak in there for a bit.
I think he looks good. I think he's not quite on the same tier
as in Noonan and blonk Post too. I thought looked like as soon as
they made it to North America they'd need a year of HL and then be
NHL ready. I think he looks like he needs a little more development than
that. But he looks confident and consistent, and I almost would reverse him
and so Guard in their prospect system, which is funny because I think just
based on size and how quickly they moved through the ranks of their respective teams,
it's been reversed. So we've seen so Guard as the one who's the
top tier, and then we've seen Marylyn and after that, and my prediction
is that it's going to end up being the other way around. But they
could surprise me, especially if the team gives so Guard more chances and exposure
than they give Marylyn And who has a very robust system back home to go
back to if he wants to nice see, I was going to ask you
if you would reverse the order on any of these, and it seems like
a lot of times they're when you're looking at depth charts and call ups,
a lot of times they just go by height and like size, who has
the biggest frame do let's thank you? Yeah, you're big. Speaking of
another big guy, and we'll see if you switch the order on him.
But Kevin Mandalis is another one that we should probably mentioned. Twenty eighteen,
sixth round pick, so he's definitely a bit older. He's not twenty two.
He's six four hundred and eighty so pretty big, tall but also slight.
He played in all the leagues this year. He was I think he
was trying to go for the he got the trifecta. Maybe he was going
for the poor set. He got the NHL AHL and ECHL well done,
sir, And he played mostly in the HL, he got three NHL games.
Actually, his saber centers look good. In the NHL, he was
surprisingly worse than the HL, though, of all of them. And there's
a lot of goalie comps for Kevin Mandeleys because he's been around so long and
he came up in the queue. Then he's been in the HL and the
EHL, and there's exactly one comp in the hockey prospect and model that looks
good for him, and that's Corey Crawford, and the rest are all bus
And I think the guy that he looks the most like is Alex Staylock,
who has had a very career. Yeah, and he's definitely much taller than
Staylock. So anyways, what do you think about Kevin Mandeley. Is he
the third of this trio or does he have more upside? What do you
think? I don't know if he necessarily has more upside. Kids that come
from the Q and JHL, it's so hard because there's so much variance in
that league that you'll see guys who post a sub nine hundred safe percentage they're
in entire tenure in the HL, and it'll just be because they're playing on
a team that almost is entirely comprised of junior A players versus major junior players,
and then you'll see another kid who played behind a powerhouse team like the
Monkedin Wildcats, and they'll have a much better safe percentage. And it almost
has more to do with how many shots they're having to face and whether they
have any defense in front of them than it does their actual style. And
the resources are different depending on Some of the teams in the Maritimes have more
resources to work with and some of the other ones, and it's an interesting
league to watch, but it makes it very hard to pinpoint which of those
guys is necessarily going to be NHL ready. Every time I've watched Kevin Mandeli's
I've thought he looks fine. I'm not super excited by him, but I'm
also not shocked that he got an NHL look and I'm not shocked that he
did well during those games, because number one, he's used to playing behind
some chaotic teams, especially in the queue, and his style just he's one
of those who he just remains consistent and constant. He doesn't do anything overly
exciting. He's the opposite of Met Soguard, who is nothing but exciting,
and then Mandoli's is just he's just there and he does fine, And I
think that's a good thing for Ottawa to have in their system. Like respectfully
to Ottawa, I think that having someone that isn't going to wow them,
but isn't going to absolutely panic and tank them is something that maybe they could
a little more of. So we'll see. I think any one of those
guys could become their next to NHLer, but I don't necessarily want to see
any of them at the NHL level yet full time, just because I want
to see Ottawa do a little better before they throw any of those guys to
the wolves. Oh, that'll probably happen, since they have a pretty good
one. They have some pretty good NHLers though right now, so at least
I think that's true. That's true. They can hold unless they have the
rash of injuries. They have a Corpuslo who they paid a lot for,
and they have pent on forest works at least for both for a couple of
years, So maybe we won't see the trotting out of all their prospects in
the NHL for a while. We'll see, But thanks so much for giving
us your instincts. On the Ottawa Senator's goalies. We'll be back right after
this Dynasta Senator prospects. That's right, the Ottawa Senators are middle of the
road. They're tied for fourteenth and Victor's model for prospect system rankings, and
it all starts with the no brainer. Who is that, Victor? We're
gonna go with Ridley greg He is someone who is a little bit older and
the prospects share is only twenty one, but he did actually play some NHL
games this year. There's a twenty twenty first round pick, twenty eighth overall,
six foot, one hundred and eighty three pounds. He had twenty nine
points and thirty nine games for PHL Belleville and then, as I mentioned,
twenty games for others centers nine points, so almost half point per games.
Not bad. He does really well in some of the banger categories. Thirty
three hits in those twenty games is not bad. He's not shooting a whole
lot, but he's also really young for the NHL, so we can't hold
that completely against him. He also was getting some face off wins, which
is pretty nice. He's got two years left on his ELC and it's actually
compressive. If you look at his evolving hockey data, it's only two hundred
and twenty five minutes of time on ice at even strength, so not the
largest sample size, but he's well above average and pretty much every category from
expected goals four to against and COURSI four and against gayic goals for that bo
is pretty well for a young player looking to translate what he can do into
a little bit larger roles. But let's hear a little bit more about what
our FHL scouts have to say about Ridley Greg Jesse. This one is from
Puneet and thank you for your scouting expertise here. Skating, It's very strong,
acceleration, is fast from a stationary position for defense, good at drawing
players into create open space for his teammates. Compete level when playing defense at
five on five is the concern with This guy does a really good job making
it look like he really hates to play defense. That's not what you want
to hear. Floats around an open space to make it look like he's doing
his part, but he's waiting for his teammates to get the puck for an
offensive transition. Play. The top tier punit says, a tier three for
our fantasy purposes, which is sixty to seventy points with average Bash most likely
tier what looks more likely would be like a below average Bash at fifty to
sixty points at most stylistic comparable close to a mid tier Zach Hyman, he
says, and Grieg is looking at a mid to bottom six role with his
current play. Needs to show more enthusiasm at playing defense if he wants more
ice time. The NHL ranked King Mason Black compares him to Tyson Forster in
our poll today, Tyson Forrester, who has drafted the same year, five
picks ahead of mister Greig, and the people say that Forrester still belongs a
little bit ahead of Ridley Grieg fifty three to forty seven percent. Is that
what you're seeing, Victor, Yeah, I don't know about that. I
like Forrester. I think he's done some really nice things with his limited sample
size. I think if you just look at the AHL numbers, then Greeg
was higher and he had a pretty nice stint in the NHL. Forrester played
eight games and had seven points, So I guess if you parade that out,
he's like a point per game plus player, but I don't think that's
realistic obviously, So I think both these guys are going to be probably somewhat
relevant players. I think that they have different styles, whereas Gregg is more
of a banger and Forster is more of a scorer. So I guess you
can read into that. But you like obviously Forrester, you like the score
more in general, but I'm not sure that Forrester scoring is going to be
high end enough. I guess that's the question will he be able to do
that? I think if I'm looking at just who's on the team and what
the potential to rise, Forrester I think is a higher level prospect in that
system. Obviously, they did really well at the draft this year with Meechkoff,
but he's several years away, so you like that opportunity for Forrester.
I think Greg is probably going to be a middle sixer just based on who
they have there in Ottawa, but he definitely brings a little bit more physicality.
So I guess if we're going for more scoring Forster, if you're looking
more at that multi category, I think Greig might be a really solid option.
So that's how I would break the TIE and just looking at these guys
hockey prospecting there, it's a little bit higher. For Greeg he was able
to finish with a twelve percent chance of being a star sixty nine percent chance
of being an NHL or, whereas Forster trended down from thirty two down to
five percent chance of being a star. So really doesn't look like he has
too much potential there anymore, although he does look good in some other models
like the PNHL E looks decent. And it should also be mentioned for Forrester
that his development was really disrupted because he had that COVID year for the OHL
and he went to the HL really young, which was tough for a nineteen
year old, and then went back to the OHL and it was back and
forth. So a little bit interesting there. Back to Greeg, though,
one of his comps that I look that I think is pretty reasonable as Vinny
Trocheck, and I think we all love Viny Trocheck and multike category leads because
he just does so much. He hits and faceoff wins and shots and get
some special team points, and I think Greg could be that way. It
did take Trocheck a little bit of time to get to that valuable point,
and I think that might be true for Greg. It is not going to
happen in the next year or two, but it might happen after that.
So you might have to be a little patient, which might be hard because
I think he'll have some years in Ottawa before he gets to that point,
unless he pops off a little sooner. The j Fresh card has Greg at
just eight percent chance of being a star, seventy percent chance of being an
NHL or so it seems less likely to be a big point getter but pretty
likely to be an NHLer. I think that's probably the case for both these
guys. But yeah, that's the lowdown on Ridley Greg. He the way
time is basically zero. He should be with the Ottawa Senators full time next
year, which is nice and can get you some nice supportive numbers in terms
of block hits and some faceoff wins and potentially some scoring tremendous victor that was
your first prospect, But who is your need to know? The you need
to know is Zach A. Stap Chuck twenty twenty one second round pick,
six foot three, two hundred and five pound center and or I guess winger,
depending on where he ends up, but he's he moved from the Vancouver
Giants, where he had twenty nine points in twenty one games, to the
Winnipeg Ice where he had thirty four thirty eight points in thirty four games,
so just over point per game in both of them. He also represented Canada
at the World Junior Championships where they won gold, and he was definitely more
of a depth player there, but that's actually his second gold with Canada for
the U twenty, so more of a depth role there and and actually I
think that's where he probably is going to end up as a little bit of
foreshadowing, but he should be in Belleville this upcoming season and so would be
interesting to see how he translates his game to the professional level. If you
look at Mitch Brown's tracking data for when he was on the Winnipeg Ice,
his offense was actually really low, which is interesting, especially considering he was
over a point per game in that time. His expected primary assists for sixty
was pretty low, almost in the bottom fifteen percent of the league, as
long as his passing and his expected goals were saverage, which is not something
you want for an older player, and that's much bigger and more physically mature
in the WHL, so that was pretty disappointing. Some of his other metrics
aren't great. His defense is actually really good and that's probably going to be
his calling card, I would say, at the next level. And his
transition game also pretty good. But let's hear a little bit more about Zach
a stap Chuck from our FHL scout Jesse and it's Joshua this time. Talking
about a stap Chuck. He says the skating is fast and nimble, especially
for a player of his size at six three, two hundred five pounder,
capable of building up ahead of steam and hitting his top speed quickly, which
is mixed with size, strength and puck skills that make him a nightmare in
the rush. I don't want a six three two hundred five guy coming at
me at full speed. I know that much passing and handling. Puck handling's
one of a stap Chuck's strengths, whether in tight spots or at top speed
in transition. He can play like the puck is on a string, an
accomplish passer, usually picking a safe route, but he is also a hard
and accurate passer for shooting despite mainly being used as a NetFront presence. He
has a very strong and accurate shot, which it would be nice to see
if Stap Chuck use more often. He's also able to make shots and tight
right against the goalie IQ in the offensive zone. He's already a mature and
cool headed player. Vision is good, if a little limited in terms of
finding his teammates, but he generally makes the safe decision, trusts his own
skills enough to get out of tight spots for checking. A weakness is his
defensive acumen, and that starts with ford checking. It starts with his lack
of anticipation and ability to read the play as it develops. A bit of
work in his edgework could help his mobility and ability to cut off passes and
skaters for defense. Yes, that is his weakest point his defensive play.
It's a combination of lack of efforts and inability to effectively read plays. Effective
body and shot blocker and can occasionally use his side along the boards, but
needs to be more engaged and learn to use his skills more effectively. And
the number one asset. He is one of the leaders in the new generation
of power forward, a group defined by this combination of size, speed,
and skill. If he can use that combo, he's going to make a
good NHL player. He's more than just a big body in front of the
net. He could shoot and skate and stick handle, and that's his biggest
asset is the diversity of a skill set. The biggest concern again the defensive
play. The pieces are there, the physicalities there, you just got to
get it together. Top tier possibility outcome here top six complementary forward with the
right linemates thirty forty seventy if developed correctly, does have a very good shot
and the capability to burn defenses in multiple ways, especially if he adds a
better vision for his teammates and passing lanes. The middle outcome middle to bottom
six forward that can ship in offensively. If his off puck play and defensive
capabilities don't improve, he may be more of a liability than he is worth
if the scoring doesn't translate. If he continues to develop solely as a NetFront,
peasants a one dimensional role. He has been put in at the OHL
that's going to cap out his ceiling and the stylistic comparable he resembles other neopower
forwards of today's game. Josh Anderson comes to mind for Joshua. Although a
Stapchuck is more consistent and has a better shot a lesser Tage Thompson Woo,
that sounds nice. The NHL rank King Mason Black gave us the poll on
this guy. In a Stapchuck is up against Fraser Minton. Get a little
bit of Toronto maple Leaf love here, and the PNHL equivalency for a stock
Chuck is all the way up into second line potential these days. Carter Ashton,
Brock McGinn and Andrew Kopp are his cloth translations. But back to a
stop Chuck versus Minton, the grudge match, the Toronto maple Leaf comes out
ahead of the Ottawa Senator fifty five to forty five percent. Would you rather
have Minten or stop Chuck dere Victor Yeah? I think this is definitely gonna
be Mintened for me. I really liked what Minten did in his draft season.
I thought he could take a step forward, and he did for kem
Loops this year. If he went from fifty five and sixty seven to sixty
seven and fifty seven, so a bit of a bump up there. It
wasn't as big of a step as you would have liked, but it still
was pretty decent. A stop Chuck, he's been been that same range for
a couple of years now. And it's funny because when you were talking,
when our scout was talking about how his lack of defense and defensive awareness,
I feel like that's more his strong suit than his weakness, and the offense
is a little bit less. But I'm not sure that a stop Chuck has
the big I'm not sure either of these guys really have the the opportunity to
be or the talent to be a big time scorer in the NHL. But
I think that's definitely more Minton's game than it is a stap Chuck. I
think a stap Chuck is more likely to be an NHL or at this point,
but I think neither neither of those are for sure, So I would
probably take the gamble on Minton. I think he's has a little bit more
upside, though it's definitely muted. From his draft season. He went from
twenty one percent down to nine percent chance of being a star, and so
he's trended down. Both of these guys have trended down in general, so
I would take Minton. It is probably pretty close, and partially because neither
are super interesting. Zaka Stapchuck. In terms of his other comps, he
looks a lot like a Wayne Simmons type, and I think that's probably reasonable.
Both bigger guys have some physicality, but not necessarily the biggest score,
so that's maybe a little bit more what's to be expected. Looking at his
JA fresh card, Zacha Stapchuk has just a one percent chance of being a
star fifteen percent chance of being an NHL or so really low, and yeah,
I think that's probably reasonable. He's not the most exciting guy, although
I think the Sentators will be happy with him just playing a BOUTOMN six role,
a big body down there. It can be physical, I think can
probably be decently capable defensively, but I don't see him as being a big
scorer. So in fantasy Zacha Stapchak, I think takes a little bit of
a hit Victor the next player to keep your eye on. Prospect is forever,
in my mind, going to be linked to the Peer McGuire era of
Ottawa Senators drafting. So tell us who it is and bonus points if you
could do it in a Puerre McGuire accent. I don't think I can do
that. But Tyler Bouche is to keep your eye on. Famously infamously,
notoriously mistakenly taken at tenth overall by Ottawa in twenty twenty one. You choose
your adjective there, jumping up to take the guy. That seems like no
one else wanted at that spot. But that was funny. They had their
guy, they wanted their guy, they took their guy. Good for you
for calling your shot. He's the six foot one, two hundred and five
pounds son of Brian Bouche. Maybe he should have been a goalie six foot
one. I mentioned that already was in the OHL. This past season was
to Tyler. Bouche had seventeen points in twenty one games for the Ottawa sixty
seven's. Then he went to the World Junior Championships and represented US. I'm
not exactly sure where he picked up an injury, but he was shut down
not long after that with the torn labram and his shoulder, and then he
had surgery. So this development path has been very weird for Tyler Bouche.
He was drafted out of the USNTDP didn't have a ton of production, but
had that physicality and they thought that this could be like a Brady Kochuck type.
Obviously, no one's Brady Kochuck. But he went straight from there to
the NC DOUBLEA and it wasn't really working out for him, so he transferred
to the OHL, which didn't quite work out as well either, and it's
basically been downhill from there. So it's been a really difficult path for him.
And the reason he has to keep your eye on is because yeah,
I'm not really sure where he's going from here, but there is a little
bit more to know about him, and so let's hear from OURFHL scout about
Tyler Bouche. Our scout Brandon has this to say about Tyler Bouche. He
has two gears in terms of skating coast and sprint, though even at top
speeds and extra gear to pull away, feels like it's not quite there yet.
He does have a relentless motor, quick to get up to his top
speed. Stride seems short and choppy at times, feet look heavy, even
though he's able to keep up and up tempo cadence. So maybe there's an
inefficiency that could be cleaned up. Passing and handling the puck control is step
and executed with blunt force. He has the ability to deak and try to
dazzle, but would need near perfect conditions for this to succeed at higher levels.
Defaults to protecting the puck instead of handling it with his potential to engineer
a play. Passing can be overly fancy at times, but has shown signs
of consistency and growth toward more poise and movement away from being overcomplex. He
is will The pass can be selfish at times, can be geared to getting
him in a better position to shoot, which is understandable knowing the strength of
a shot. So shooting very heavy shot. It seems to put everything he
has behind every shot he takes. The gusts though he puts on his shots,
forces goaltenders to be set and sound, and challenges them to handle the
puck properly so as not to give up the juicy rebounds off those shots.
The one timer violent, and he focuses on getting it off his stick quickly.
Blucher has two points of anticipation, the first being of binary activation.
Once his team gains offensive control of the puck second is targeting opponents to hit
on the four check. Seems like he gets frazzled and overly puck focused when
pressured in space is taken away from him for checking. One of the strengths
is his aggressive, linear and physical for check, he will rack up hits.
Statistically, he and his team could stand to benefit from puck retrieval and
play generation off this aggression defense. He does indeed enter the D zone,
yet an imposed will in effect remain to be seen besides coasting atop of the
circles and waiting to be sprung on an outlet breakout pass. Best asset,
relentless motor in punishing, physical play. Biggest concern instincts intelligence, full ice
service awareness. Under the top tier outcome the right conditions, we can see
Boucher play a role in the top six with a ceiling of forty points and
plenty of hits. This would be predicated on being set up with gifted skill
players and he would have a Patrick Maroon type role and the fiftieth percent of
outcome extra forward bottom six grind and energy line role guy who if he happens
to get to the NHL at the current balance of deployment. We think he's
maybe more of a potential AHL Euro journeyman with the odd cup of coffee in
the NHL, and Brandon says the stylistic comparable many Tom Wilson with less fluid
mechanics technical skill, cross with the hockey IQ and panic meter of Nil Yakapov
oh Ouch, NHL ranking data and poll, We're gonna put Tyler Bouche against
Nathan Gasche. That's fun. Let's just do those types of names and the
differences. Bouche was drafted twenty twenty one, number ten, Gosher was drafted
twenty twenty two, number twenty two, and the NHL ranking pole is heavily
in favor of Nathan Gasche for the Anaheim Ducks. Is that how you would
see a victor? Yeah? I think so. The thing about Bouche is
that, as I mentioned earlier, his development has been so severely disrupted that
it is possible that he ends up being a pretty decent player. It's just
going to take him a while. I don't think. I didn't think and
I don't think he was worth taking that early. But he's a big guy
that can take longer in terms of being able to get up to the right
speed and figuring out how to play at these different levels, which has been
something that's been a challenge for him. And now even after not dominating in
the OHL, he's going to be asked to move up to the HL and
that's going to be a big step for him. So he's someone who seems
instead of being the head, he's going to be perpetually behind. So the
deck seems to be stacked against him, which is never something that you want.
And Gootia, on the other hand, while his numbers weren't amazing,
he had forty six points in forty four games for the Quebec Remparts. He
also represented Canada U twenties and one gold and but he was pretty fantastic for
a really good team and they won the QMJHL, they won this Memorial Cup.
He was the best to defensive forward. There also has some physicality to
him. So I think this is a nice comparison because if you wanted that
type of player, I would definitely take Gachet. And if you look at
the Anaheim system, they don't have a lot of guys like this. They
have some smaller forwards. They have a Mason McTavish, sure in terms of
Terry and Zegris and even some of their defensemen on some of the biggest and
most physical so I think he can fit a really nice role on the Ducks
moving forward. So I like Gachet for that. I'm not sure that he's
going to be a big score necessarily. I don't think either of these guys
are. But he's someone who get gets, someone who could maybe put up
fifty ish points with a lot of really strong periffs, and that could be
pretty valuable. But I'm not sure that he's going to do too much more
than that. In terms of Tyler Bouche, both these guys have trended down
since their draft. Here from their star potential potent percent, Bouchet is just
down to one percent chance of being a star twenty four percent chance of being
in an each other. Gachet went from twelve to five, so a bit
lower. And if you look at some other comps for Bouche, they're literally
almost no players who became stars other than Miko Koivu, who basically broke this
model from looking absolutely terrible to becoming a star. So that is going to
be very unlikely for Tyler Bousche. Most of his just look like bus and
or replacement players, so that's probably more realistic in terms of what we're looking
for for Bouche. The top down Hockey model has him at just two percent
chance of being a star five percent chance of being an nhlor. It doesn't
look good. It doesn't look good, but I do think, as I
said, there are there. If you're trying to think about what to do
with him, it could be a biload for Bouche because the centers are probably
going to give him opportunity. He was a high pick, he's had some
disrupted development. Things could still work out for the guy, and I don't
think it's all completely lost. So yeah, he's someone that maybe you take
a speculaive ad if you have space, But for the most part, I'd
probably not be too interesting in him and Jesse. There are more guys we
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