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Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented
by fan Tracks, your source of information

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and analysis to help you win your
fantasy hockey league. Fuck off, that's

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a step hit on stay lot fod
gosh. Here's your hosts, Jesse Sevier

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and Victor Nuno Ennessy Hockey Life.
We're back once again. I am Jesse

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Severe of fan Tracks. Joining me
across the glass. It is Victor Nuno

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of Dabber Prospects of Victor. How
you doing today, I'm doing awesome,

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Jesse. Yeah, definitely excited to
be back in the saddle here and looking

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forward to talking some senators. How
are you doing, buddy, I'm doing

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good. I'm doing good. Victor
knows how I'm doing because he is doing

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the same. We're in the middle
of heavy draft season. We did I

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think in golf, Victor, they
call it a shotgun start. I don't

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know. They do that in disc
golf too, but they put somebody at

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every hole. I don't golf.
I'm not a goal They put somebody in

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every hole and then everybody starts where
they are, so you don't have to

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like all start on the first hole. But it's like a shot we did.

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We got nine drafts rocking right now. We got the eight Fantasy Hockey

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Live drafts, and we've got our
common league, the Friends of Keeping Carlson

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Dynasty, that is going. So
we got nine of those drafts. I

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got another one that I got to
kick off tomorrow, and I'm finishing up.

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We're finishing up the diesel. It's
just everything is happening, everything everywhere,

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all at once, Victor, are
you surviving all these drafts? You

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and me? And thankfully Ryan Downey, who is an American hero, even

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if he's Canadian, we're honorary American
hero is helping out huge with the tidy

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drafts, and yeah, it's going
like gangbusters, Victor, Yeah, it

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is going like gangbusters. And you're
right, Yeah, we've got some people

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stepping in and helping out, and
thank goodness for Ryan. And I also

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have a bunch to new leagues with
Pete Harling over at Dabbor Prospects Report.

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So I have all these tidies,
all these other leagues, my Buddies League,

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and those other three leagues basically all
started at once. So if you

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started the Dabor Prospects Report leagues this
weekend too, Yeah, this is unhealthy.

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This is unhealthy, Victor, we
cannot make. We cannot make August

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nineteenth National Draft Day. We've got
to find a way to space this out

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next year. On the other hand, National Fantasy Hockey Draft Day sounds like

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a pretty awesome day that we should
definitely start working on. Don't you think

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you know what? We could call
it the third the third Saturday in August.

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You don't want to pick a day
for it a day. You want

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to make it more like Thanksgiving,
where it fluctuates because you want it.

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You don't want to start any old
day of the week. You need a

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weekend to do it to really get
things rolling, although sometimes I find people

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draft better on weekdays. But I
think we should make that a holiday,

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Victor, good idea. Yeah,
let's do it, all right, Remember

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somebody to remember that some of our
great listeners who are doing all kinds of

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cool stuffers these days, remember that
so that next year we can observe this

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holiday yet again. And maybe if
we let it float to Friday, you

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could probably tell your boss that it's
a religious observance for you and you have

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to have that day off, because, as I understand, some employers will

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let you do that anyway. I'm
trading a dangerous territory here, Victor,

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tell people how they could do things
like this next year. Some people out

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there are jealous because they can't participate
in this league or they haven't participated in

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this league, and it's because they
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and they have not signed up for
the Tidy. So why don't you tell

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people about all that? Yeah,
the Patreon is something that we offer.

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If you go to patreon dot com
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being a part of this really fun
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we call it. A couple of
people who just joined have already been telling

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me how fun it seems, and
they're really liking the camaraderie and their league

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and the structure. So it's going
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way to work your way up to
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watching all the teams that work their
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Hockey Life or at Victor Nuno twelve. Victor. We gotta get into this

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talk. We got Ottawa Senators talk, and what a fascinating team. There's

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a ton of players to talk about
here, so we can wait no longer.

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Let's talk Ottawa Senators. Right after
that, we'd like to welcome tonight

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a baby who's gonna tell us all
about the Ottawa Senators. It is Murray

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Pam of Full Press Hockey. How
are you doing tonight, Murray? Oh

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good. We just actually went through
a big storm, a tornado warning and

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there was a lot of hail.
It just came down a little while ago,

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but all the clearer there was a
small tornado outside just outside of Ottawa.

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It was actually a small one and
we actually had a tornado as well,

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touchdown on Friday. So it's just
been a hectic few days here.

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Oh my gosh, No, that's
that's roight man. The things are rough

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up there. We're getting a little
bit of ore Wisconsin, but nothing like

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that. No power all weekend.
I had no power all weekend. Oh

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wow, I think we didn't.
We did a mess in the generator,

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so we had that. So Murray, that's a mess. That's a mess.

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Well, I gotta tell you,
Murray, something that seemed to be

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out of power a couple of years
ago were the Ottawa Senators. But the

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power is back on. The generators
are running. However, predictions that Ottawa

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would get all the way back to
the playoffs this year might have been a

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little bit premature. I was kind
of thinking hoping something they would. They

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moved from seventy three to eighty six
standing points, which is only six behind

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the Florida Panthers for the last playoff
spot in the East. That is the

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Stanley Cup finalist Florida Panthers. They
played very active games. Shall we say

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they're twelve point four PIM, we're
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league. Twelve point two for their
opponents was second in the league, so

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there were a lot of filling into
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Getting the most power playoff tunities in
the league led to the second most powerplay

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goals, also second place among Canadian
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If you get my drift on who
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it's good. They got a lot
of power play time because unfortunately, five

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on five shooting was not a strength
of the Senators seven point one percent the

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worst in the NHL at shooting at
five on five. Alex to Brinkett cam

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Talbot came and went. They won't
be part of the show's discussion directly tonight

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because we're not previewing them as part
of the next year's team. Big reinforcements

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to be discussed later did come in, However, the cream of the prospect

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crop is already in the process of
breaking in the ProTeam. Not a whole

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lot of huge names waiting under the
surface, meaning hope for development that could

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help the team rise, and of
course the huge NHL narrative of the past

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few months. Could new ownership change
the face of this franchise, especially running

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a bit higher of a payroll that
we've already seen. So anyway, Murray,

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what is the sense around Ottawa watchers
of how much better this team is

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going to be next year? You're
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That's a good question. With the
new owner in town, it's still unofficial.

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But to the new owner, Michael
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development camp and he was there and
he was visible. He was shaking hands

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with fans and taking photos. But
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He's allowed gentleman or Pierre Durian to
spend to the cap and actually right

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now they're just under the cap,
and they'll be over the cap once they

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signed the restrict of free agent Shane
Pinto, so they still have to make

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another move prior to camp, prior
to the season, optimism is high.

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I know that the coaching staff is
entering their final year of their contracts that

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he just spent, will have a
option for the following season. Pierre Duran

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has two more seasons, but this
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definitely under scrutiny, have you scrutiny
from obviously from the new ownership, and

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nothing short of the playoffs will be
accepted and be acceptable with this franchise.

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And last season the production was fair
that they would probably just be short of

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the playoffs. Are challenging for the
playoffs with that addition About's brink out last

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year and then the addition of Jeff
Chuck Jacob Checker and through throughout the season.

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But they, you know, they
just ran out of steam and they

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ended up with the Shabbat and Chicken
and Hamminick all injured in the last final

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games. And of course, as
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the entire season except for five games, So that another was another I guess

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kick in the pants for that team. So they actually followed through them,

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I mean with Shane Pinto stepped up
and they did really well. To really

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stay within that six seven point range
of the playoffs spot all season. So

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this season again the addition also of
Joannis Corpusalo with the Anton Forsburg hopefully helped

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the antonin Forresburk. He is skating
and working out right now. He's apparently

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has recovered from from his double double
knee injuries, which was just unheard of.

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But he has recovered. And like
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playoffs will be acceptable. But again
it's gonna be tight race. Someone has

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to fall, maybe a couple teams
to have to fall, We don't know.

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Again, the Florida Panthers this season. Again it's gonna be based on

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Cirgate, Barbarowsky, Kenny carry him, how healthy will sorry, how we'll

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spend their night do this season?
And they're gonna be without their defense literally,

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so you know they're going to the
season with no Eclad, no Montour.

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They lost the Radical Buddhist the free
agency, so there's a team that

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may fall out and the other team
maybe could be the Boston Bruins. Obviously

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we have no version on no Crutchy. We don't know. You know,

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they lost obviously Bertuzi or lost the
free agency they're just an unknown right now,

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and I expect them to probably make
the playoffs, but it'll be tight.

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And then you have also the improvement
of the Troy Redwins and the Buffalo

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Savers who are also you know,
also with Ottawa on the cusp of you

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know, they're rising through the standings. So there's there three teams. Are

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I think one of those three teams
will make the playoffs. I don't know

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WHI joint. Yeah, well,
those are all good insights, and definitely

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it's going to be interesting to see
what happens with the other teams. But

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we want to focus on the Sins
and they're really interesting players. The first

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one we're gonna start with Tim stooch
La and Jesse and I really underrated this

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guy last year. I had him
coming in ranked as a seventy six best

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forward Jesse one hundred and six.
He finished the thirteenth best in Fantasy and

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we both had him as Tier three
guys, and we've corrected this year to

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expect Tier one things from him.
He had an incredible season thirty nine goals,

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fifty one assists for a ninety five
point pace, and pretty good in

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hits, blocks and shots as well, he was twenty six at his position.

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I have to admit I was really
wrong about Stoochla. I did not

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see this upside in him when they
drafted him, or the first one hundred

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and thirty games or so. And
this deal that he signed eight years at

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eight point three five is probably gonna
end up looking like a pretty good bargain

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for what it looks like he's developing
into. So looking at statistical outliers,

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I would say, really, the
only thing that might regress is his shooting

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percentage, which at seventeen was six
percent above his previous average, but that's

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really it. Everything else was kind
of in line. So it seems like,

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I don't know, Murray, can
we expect Stoola to be an eighty

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two hundred point player moving forward?
What do you kind of expect from him

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next season? I think that was
an expectation. I believe that was also

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expectation when they drafted Sula. I
mean, right now they're calling him Tommy

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Superstar around here. And he also
missed what seven games due to injury as

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well, so that he could have
had another you know, five, six,

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seven points as well. So I
think what's expected from this year is

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more of the same and continue,
you know, continually to upgrade, and

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I think he's he's probably I would
think he would hit forty goals this season

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if he continues his improvement and he's
a workout of holic literally his his core,

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he's so strong. I don't know, obviously, I have to have

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the chance to see him unfortunately in
the you know, in the in the

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locker room, and he's got his
thighs. I don't know if you ever

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Daniel Opfordson and those guys. These
are guys that you know, Martin Saint

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Louis type. These people are you
know, they're hard to knock, knock

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knocked down, and they have a
low center of gravity. And I think

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that again, I think with his
imagination and he controls play so much that

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he also had you know, he
has a lot of vision and he can

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shoot the puck. So with him, Brady Kochuck, Terra Sanco now up

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there, cool Drew and it depends
on who they play with. Will probably

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get into that a bit later,
I think, and I need to do

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one hundred is probably again what we're
Timmy Stutsu will be. Wow, Well

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you talked about Brady Kochuck. Boy
do I love Brady Kochuck, Murray Victor

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and oh my gosh, both Sam
is a top ten player in fantasy hockey.

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He certainly was, and both seeing
him near the top again. This

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year, Brady's fifth year in the
NHL smashed his prior marks literally for the

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first time. He averaged more than
a point per game thirty five goals forty

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it assists eighty three points in eighty
two games. He averages well over four

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shots a game that's fourth in the
NHL, about three hits a game that's

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eleven. That is a unique statistical
profile. One thing that always puzzles me

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about the guy, and this is
just a nippick. And I don't know

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whether you can do with anything with
this or not beat Murray, or if

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this is something that just comes from
me looking at the wrong stats. But

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boy, this guy's spread between goal
scored and expected goal scored in a lot

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of these models is always so wide. He has a steady ten percent shooting

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percentage, but the numbers always think
maybe from the range he shoots at,

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he should be expected to make like
almost almost fifty percent more goals per sixty

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than he does. I'm not expecting
to explain somebody else's mat. But is

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there anything with Brady's shot selection or
accuracy liking or is it just he gets

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up so close it just shoves everything
towards the net and so more of it's

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going to get blacked in that spine. Anyway, I don't know if you've

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got something on that. But could
we dream on a ninety point Brady Kchuck

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season for this year? I don't
know. It depends on I think for

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Brady it will probably depend on powerplay. Again, for pushing up to ninety

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I think seventy five to eighty is
probably I would think is a ceiling the

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thing with Brady again, like you're
mentioning about the shots, shot selections and

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whatnot. He does have a good
shot, but he tends to a lot

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of his shots are like literally like
at the goalie, so a lot of

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them are smothered, you know,
into the pads, into the chest,

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that sort of thing. He does
get a lot of goals in close,

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so many goals in clothes. Obviously, he takes up a lot of space

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in front of the net, and
a lot of a lot of his goals

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are within obviously sixty eight foot radius
in front of the net. And he's

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what he's really adaptive is tipping pucks. A lot he deflects. I don't

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know the stat on that, but
a lot of his goals are tips.

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And if you've seen him at practice, he actually after practice will stand out

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there on the ice for fifteen twenty
minutes and all he would do to stand

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in front of the net and tip
pucks from you know, guys shooting from

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the point. And that's all he
does. He practiced that every single practice.

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So I think obviously his outliers is
he a lot of his goals are

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in close. I'd expect them again. Obviously he reached highs and goals and

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assists this year. I don't see
why his those numbers would dip. Obviously,

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they're a highly offensive hockey team,
and I don't think anything will change.

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And obviously to brinkat flipping for Terra
Senko, I don't think there'll be

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any difference actually in the offense replacement. So I think they're you know,

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they're probably equal at this point,
and so I don't see those members going

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down. But he is, like
you said, he's a unicorn. You

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do everything, you know, the
amount of shots he gets. He's actually

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strong on faceoffs too, which he
doesn't take tons of faceoffs, but he

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also he's good on that ob sleep
those four shots of game, I know,

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anyway, from four to five shots
a game. He's he's pretty safe.

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You know, if you're a betting
guy on the on the props,

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you know, I would see like
three and a halfs and four and a

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half and he's he's pretty safe.
If he's a three and a half.

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He can do everything as well.
And he's he's a great leader so as

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well, which is which is something
you know for his age, and he's

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just getting He's also stronger. He's
he's a big body. If you know,

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when you see him, he's he's
quite strong. There's nobody's going to

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push him around. So he plans
himself in front of the nut, you

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know, like I said, he
he positions himself to tip the bucks or

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getting you know, get three bounds
and get getting close. Yeah, for

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sure, Claus YOURU preseason Victor and
I both kind of had him underrated.

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We thought maybe back into the top
one hundred, and instead he was the

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forty six best Fantasy player. The
Wily Vets first year North of the Border

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went very well. He is a
firm, thirty five year old millennial Murray

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and he's surrounded by a bunch of
gen Z forwards in that depresses me now

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that the millennials are the old people
in hockey, and now we got to

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look at the Zoomers as the young
ones. Anyway, Jeru was third on

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the team in points with seventy nine
points in eighty two games. His thirty

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five goals were a career best.
Believe it or not for clau Jeru.

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He took close to three shots through
a hit every game. Really seems his

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game has revitalized since leaving Philly in
a lot of ways, first as his

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rental in Florida and now in Ottawa. His finishing is nearly a career high,

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as his defense remained at least part
for the course. For his team

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context, he definitely thrived most when
he was out there with Katuck and Stutzla

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about half the time. So he's
going to spend two more years of his

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mid to late thirties in the Canadian
tire center. The arrival of a certain

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additional Russian right winger who you may
have already mentioned, replacing to bring it

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in the top six, does that
push Jeru off that top line and could

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he not seventy points again Murray,
I think he is. Seventy points is

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very realistic. Also to note,
he was fifty eight percent on face offs,

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which is which is also another another
key stat for fantasy. He did

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very well on the face offs.
Again. Yeah, the career high was

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it was amazing, and I think
he was rejuvenated for the fact back alone

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he lives. His home is ten
minutes from the ring. He's an Ottawa

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guy. I know he didn't he
wasn't born in Nova, but he grew

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up in Ottawa. His sister lives
in Ottawa, his parents live in Ottawa.

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He played hockey over and got the
goat no. And you know,

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for for home, and that's what
probably rejuvenated him. He's playing in front

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of friends and family, you know, lifelong friends and family, and I

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think the goal total, I think
may come down a bit. I don't

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think he'll be I think he's going
to be more on this on the second

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line, power play, and and
also he's probably going to be ended up

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shifting to the left side. He
has played left wing in the past in

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Philadelphia and I think that move may
it could maybe hamper his goal totals because

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he was used to playing right wing
and center. Last year he didn't play

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a lot of center, but he
when he's on the ice, you know,

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there's almost no positions anymore. I
don't know, you know what I'm

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saying, You guys are you know
these versatile guys can't go anywhere on the

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ice. And Drew does play a
lot up the middle. He also plays,

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you know, on the right side. I expect the assist total either

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stayed the same or even go higher. And because he has done that in

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the past, right he's reached you
know, fifty to sixty assists, that

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sort of thing that I expect his
goal number is maybe to come down a

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bit. But like you said,
he is a re juvenative player. He's

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well conditioned. He's actually he trains
all summer long. There's a very fitness

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grewer here called Tony Greco who's really
demanding and he puts puts these guys through.

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Heck, it's time to say to
say Andrew. Drew's also training other

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athletes as well in fitness, so
there's something there and he's ready to go.

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Like I said, I think his
assistoto will go up. His goal

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total maybe close. I think we'll
be closer to thirty. He may reach

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thirty, but I'm figuring like a
twenty eight goal maybe. He said,

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what do you of course, when
do you get last eight? Eighty five

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points arounting or eighty Yeah, he
had thirty thirty five goals, and well,

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I guess that would make forty four
assists. Okay, So I expect

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his assist total maybe being the fifty
range, and then the goal total may

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just come down a fraction. We
still give me a valuable player obviously in

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fantasy in that way, tremendous.
And the next day we're want to talk

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about Josh Norris. You already mentioned
the injury. It was such a disappointment

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for him after having a really strong
twenty twenty one, twenty two, and

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we had kind of projected some some
big things for him, but disappointment that

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he only played eight games due to
that nasty shoulder injury. Seven years at

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almost eight million, I think it's
probably gonna end up looking pretty good if

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he can continue to develop and progress, Although it does seem like Stoochla has

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passed him on the depth chart at
center at least for now, and is

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making a little bit more so maybe
based on the cap you get him,

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get him a little bit higher in
the lineup, But do you think does

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that mean more Norris will get a
fewer touches with the best players on the

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team or what do you think can
he can Norris bounce back and get closer

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to that sixty eight point season,
maybe even take a step forward after the

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long rehab and time off. What
do you think, Marie. That's that's

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a good question. As Norris is
healthy, which is one good which is

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a good thing. There was some
talk that they may not play him that

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much or not play him in the
preseason, just to just to ensure,

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you know, preserve his shoulder.
But they say the last time Peodorian spoke,

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he said he was he was healthy
and ready to go. I did

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see Josh Norris probably a couple of
weeks ago golf thing, so there's that's

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a good sign as well. It
was a torkin, you know, torking

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his body and that sort of thing. So he was out there golfing in

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a pro a pro am event in
Ottawa. As for the numbers between the

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Norris and suits, there are one, A, one B. So the

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way DJ Smith's going to do it
is ride the hot hand and see the

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see you know, check out the
chemistry between I think he might start on

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the second line and maybe with a
with a Drew and possibly a Drake Batterson,

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but that's that's something you know,
we have to wait till the preseason

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and training camp to see how that
all goes. But if they're definitely one

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A, one B. But the
one thing is that Josh Norris will still

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get He's still going to play twenty
minutes a game because that's what he does.

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He kills penalties, he's on the
power play, and he's also going

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to be on the first power play
unit as well, so he's still going

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to get the same number of touches
as you guys spoke earlier. Sentators get

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a lot of power plays and he's
still going to be on the power plays,

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so he's going to kill penalties as
well. So I don't think the

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touches to go down. I think
the assistant numbers will go up a bit

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because obviously he only had seventeen eighteen
assists and thirty five goals. And in

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his full season that the prior season, and actually that was a partial season

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he plays, he had thirty five
goals, and that was only he who

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played sixty six games years shoulder that
season as well, so and most I

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think he was fourth and power play
goals, I believe when he had the

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thirty five goals, so a lot
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So I don't expect anything different than
that. I think he could probably

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reach thirty five goals. I don't
know if he can reach forty. I

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think the standard for him will be
I think high sixties this season, providing

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everything goes well, and providing everything
goes well, I think the following season

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will be the season where he'll see
him. Maybe he jump to that seventy

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five point guy, but he's definitely
he scores more goals than assists, and

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I don't see that changing because he
has that shoot you know, that shoot

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first mentality for a center, which
is rare rather than a passer. So

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I expect a goal total to be
in that thirty to thirty five range and

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the assist he plays a full season, hopefully a playfals season, he should

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be over thirty assists. Well,
that'd be great. Drake Batherson, we've

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mentioned him a couple of times.
Boy, he really turned in a nice

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year. Twenty two goals, forty
assists for sixty two points in a full

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eighty two games didn't quite match that
near point per game pace he was on

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before an ankle injury took away a
lot of his prior season, but he

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certainly set a career high end points
and presumably has entrenched himself in the top

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six of the Senators. He throws
a hit in a half a game.

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He takes three shots a game,
both of which again and Durham to us

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fantasy types. He's been among the
leaders in power play time on ice for

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multiple years for this team. Who
will Bathson line up with this year and

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do you see any change in role
or performance for him? I don't see

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any changing role performance, believe it
or not. Botherson was actually a little

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bit disappointed with his season, even
though he did get the forty assists he

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would have. I don't know if
it was bad luck or not, but

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his twenty two goals. He was
disappointed with his goal total, to be

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honest, not something he's he wants
to work on, he but the season

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he put out there, considering he
missed obviously that high Uncle Sprain, that's

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that's an injury that could last even
though you go back to playing. Those

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are injuries that do that like it
will act up on you for a long

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period of time. And from what
I was told, that type of injury

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could last up to a year where
you do feel some pain and that maybe

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being I don't know if that would
hurt his goal totals. But the one

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thing with Batterston, he has great
vision. You see that that forty assist

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00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,240
and like you said, Jesse,
he was using his size and he was

407
00:27:36,319 --> 00:27:40,079
throwing. You know, he is
six foot four, I mean, and

408
00:27:40,319 --> 00:27:42,720
you know in junior I'll go back
to junior quickly, a little off base,

409
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:49,200
but he's grown five five or six
inches since his second season in junior

410
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:56,480
so and put on about forty pounds. So that's that was crazy. But

411
00:27:56,559 --> 00:27:59,240
yes, I think it's a CIS
total will stay about the same. His

412
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,079
goal total I should go up a
bit. I don't know if he'll reach

413
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,119
thirty, but you know, mid
twenties, high twenties would be good.

414
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,559
And right now he's ticketed more than
likely to be a second line right wing.

415
00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:15,559
There's some talk of him actually going
to the third line, but I

416
00:28:15,559 --> 00:28:21,680
don't think that'll happen the way it
stands right now and does just just in

417
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,480
case they do trade Matt Matthew Joseph
or someone with that ILK. But right

418
00:28:25,519 --> 00:28:30,319
now I think he'll still get second
line minutes and he will be on the

419
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,759
power play as well. And so
I again, at his point total should

420
00:28:33,799 --> 00:28:38,880
be around the same and maybe maybe
four or five more, you know,

421
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,880
with about four or five more goals. But last season, like you said,

422
00:28:42,079 --> 00:28:47,559
hits is a big category, and
he was throwing his weight around all

423
00:28:47,599 --> 00:28:52,000
season. He's he's underrated and that
you don't think Matters is a physical player,

424
00:28:52,039 --> 00:28:55,799
but he kind of jumps out at
you and he tries to hit everything

425
00:28:55,839 --> 00:28:57,519
that moves, whether you know it's
not powerful hit or whatnot. He's not

426
00:28:57,599 --> 00:29:00,599
a strong hitter, but he does
throw his weight around, you know,

427
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,559
in the defensive manner. And he
said he you know, he's on the

428
00:29:03,559 --> 00:29:07,160
four check, so he's not trying. It's you know, to throw hits.

429
00:29:10,279 --> 00:29:14,519
Well, vlad Tarasenko is in town. He didn't sign quite as quickly

430
00:29:14,519 --> 00:29:17,559
as some of the top free agents
this offseason, but the thirty one year

431
00:29:17,599 --> 00:29:21,279
old is now there. He didn't
keep up his point per game pace of

432
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:26,200
twenty one twenty two, but he
had a respectable eighteen goals thirty two assists

433
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,680
for fifty points in sixty nine games
between Saint Louis and the New York Rangers.

434
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,599
Twenty one of those points where in
those thirty one games with the Rangers

435
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,799
as a rental, where he scated
only fifteen fifty five a night, the

436
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:44,119
lowest ice time for him since his
pre breakout sophomore year. Dipping from three

437
00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:48,079
shots per game to getting close to
two per game is a little bit worrisome

438
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,079
for what we hope for from Tarasenko, but again, partly that was a

439
00:29:52,119 --> 00:29:56,319
factor of ice time and the role
he had with a very crowded offensive roster

440
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,880
in New York. He still takes
a hit per game, even after these

441
00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:03,079
years and the injuries. He blocked
a shout with his hand last year and

442
00:30:03,119 --> 00:30:07,960
he missed most of January for it, but otherwise he didn't miss time from

443
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,279
that nasty shoulder injury that took a
couple of years out of the middle of

444
00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:15,319
his career and really kind of messed
it up. His defense does not rate

445
00:30:15,359 --> 00:30:18,240
out as very good at this point
in his career, so that could be

446
00:30:18,279 --> 00:30:21,880
something that the Senators will have to
account for with where they put in.

447
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,640
But where do you think Tarasenko fits
into this team? Is he going to

448
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,720
get power play time on ice?
Could he put up another seventy points?

449
00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:33,480
What's lad Tirasenko going to be in
a senator's uniform? Well, I'll just

450
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:37,359
give you this. Tuesday, we
had the opportunity to speak to Vodoman Tiarasenko

451
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,279
and he said there was a number
of factors and he didn't get into it,

452
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,799
but he said there was a number
of factors the last season they ended

453
00:30:45,839 --> 00:30:49,559
up having this twinning season. I
think there was part of the he's going

454
00:30:49,599 --> 00:30:55,000
to be a free agent type of
thing. And remember there was some issues

455
00:30:55,039 --> 00:30:56,680
in St. Louis and they exposed
him this mansion draft the year before,

456
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:02,079
so he was I don't know if
his head was in the right place last

457
00:31:02,119 --> 00:31:04,480
year. And then then move and
you could argue with the Rangers moves again,

458
00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:07,240
getting Patrick Kane and Tarasenko, was
it really good for them or is

459
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:11,680
it just too much and you know, throwing too many like star players into

460
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,440
the into the mix and it just
it didn't work out for them at all.

461
00:31:15,839 --> 00:31:21,119
And but Tarasenko says he's here.
He says, right now, for

462
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,559
one year, and he's looking to
get back to where he was the previous

463
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,960
year. Of course, the previous
year, after the shoulder surgeries and being

464
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:32,119
exposed to the expansion draft, he
put up the most points of his career.

465
00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:34,240
He had eighty two points. Now
when they get eight two points this

466
00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:38,359
season, I don't know. I'm
not expecting eighty two points, but I

467
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:44,119
am expecting a typical thirty five goal, you know, thirty five thirty.

468
00:31:44,319 --> 00:31:48,440
It's this maybe season from Tarasenko.
It looks like right now he said he

469
00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:52,240
wants He said he had he was
open to playing the left side, but

470
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,759
prefers playing the right side. He's
always put the right side. I asked

471
00:31:56,839 --> 00:32:00,200
him the question, but that where
he would play where he goes on say

472
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,119
ultimately they add talk to the coach, but he goes I've always played the

473
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,440
right side, and I've never played
the left, even though he does shoot

474
00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:08,720
left. So keep prefers, you
know, the you know, playing on

475
00:32:08,759 --> 00:32:14,400
the off wing at all times.
Now, prefers playing on the off wing

476
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,119
at all times. He's probably going
to be playing on the first line with

477
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:22,559
either obviously Colchuck Suzel or Colchuck Norris. So I expect first five minutes.

478
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,480
You know he's going to play probably
eighteen to twenty one minutes a game,

479
00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:31,319
I would think, and less obviously
the game's close or they're up by a

480
00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:35,359
goal or whatever, then might slide
a minute, slide down a little bit

481
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,759
because then you're gonna see a Drew
or Bathurston or someone play a little bit

482
00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:44,079
more because it's you know, for
defensive purposes. But I think the thirty

483
00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:47,319
five goal, you know it's sixty
five to seventy five point range. I

484
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:52,440
think it will be will be the
norm I think this season for Tirasenko or

485
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,160
the hope for Tarrasenko. And he
will also get first the first unit of

486
00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:00,119
power play minutes, so I again
I think he'll put up better numbers than

487
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:05,680
last season. And providing obviously injury
obviously obviously he said he missed some time

488
00:33:05,759 --> 00:33:07,880
last year. But I think he
knows where he is for a year.

489
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:13,000
He's got a no move clause,
he's not going anywhere. He seems to

490
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,160
be in the right place and that
they kept saying that, and it was

491
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:21,680
a family decision, and he really
wants to be in Ottawa, and obviously

492
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,519
he's looking at a future contract.
Whether it's an Ottawa or someone else.

493
00:33:24,039 --> 00:33:29,039
So I think the expectation for himself
is he needs to put up big numbers

494
00:33:29,039 --> 00:33:32,759
as well to get another five million
dollars six million dollar contract because he's thirty

495
00:33:32,759 --> 00:33:36,119
one years old and you know,
it's gonna be a bit harder to get

496
00:33:36,119 --> 00:33:39,759
those contracts. So for him personally, whether you know, for him personally,

497
00:33:39,839 --> 00:33:45,119
he's going to have to score those
thirty five goals to earn another another

498
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,119
contract, you know, for another
two or three years. So I think

499
00:33:47,119 --> 00:33:53,200
he will return to, you know, to that level. Well, we've

500
00:33:53,359 --> 00:33:58,799
there's so many relevant forwards on this
team that we're we're just going to abbreviate

501
00:33:58,839 --> 00:34:00,759
the last couple of these guys.
We got, Dominiqu, Kuba Leak,

502
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,680
Ridley Grieg, Shane Pinto. I'm
just gonna maybe have you rank them,

503
00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:07,239
just as a quick set up.
Kober Leak, if he could get more

504
00:34:07,239 --> 00:34:09,920
ice time, it always seems like
he'd be great. He stuck around fifteen

505
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:15,440
minutes of ice but a solid forty
five points last year. Ridley Grieg,

506
00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:17,679
I've often he mentioned, is maybe
the third line left wing on this team.

507
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,440
He barely played last year. He's
you know, brand new he's a

508
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:23,880
rookie. He was six on the
team and points per sixty though the time

509
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,239
he got on, and Shane Pino
played eighty two games last year, twenty

510
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,880
goals, fifteen a sist, sixteen
minutes a night, and he even got

511
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,559
down ballot all Rookie votes. I
don't know if those votes were from you,

512
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:37,000
Murray, but what are the how
would you order these guys? Yeah,

513
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:42,559
we we're not okay. I actually
had Jake Sanderson second for the for

514
00:34:42,599 --> 00:34:46,119
the Calder, and I did not
actually vote Shane Pinto at all. Actually

515
00:34:46,119 --> 00:34:51,400
he either on on the All Rookie
or any any Calder votes to be honest,

516
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,320
but anyway, either or not.
Kuba Leak, I think he'll get

517
00:34:54,360 --> 00:35:00,559
forty five points last year twenty twenty
five assists with Detroit. I expect him

518
00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:07,559
maybe seventeen goals, forty points.
He's may not get power play time very

519
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:10,760
much with obviously with their top heavy
firing injury, I can't see him getting

520
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,440
a lot of power play time unless
he's on the second unit, who does

521
00:35:14,559 --> 00:35:17,800
Obviously a second units obviously don't get
as much power play to power play time.

522
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,519
So I think fifteen sixteen minutes a
game on the third line. I

523
00:35:22,639 --> 00:35:28,000
project him to actually beat the third
line left wing at this point. Obviously

524
00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:30,239
with Drew playing the left wing,
I would think now on the second line,

525
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:35,400
and obviously Brady's Brady's Brady. He's
so on the first line. So

526
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,039
I think the release, unfortunately for
him, is going to get some third

527
00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:40,679
line minutes and a little bit of
power play time buying firing injury Shane Pinto.

528
00:35:42,199 --> 00:35:45,159
Shane Pinto the good thing for him, I think he will still get

529
00:35:45,199 --> 00:35:50,639
second line power play time. He
does kill penalties, so there's that,

530
00:35:51,079 --> 00:35:58,360
and I expect him to get fifteen
to eighteen minutes per game and be in

531
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,679
line probably about the same season,
maybe up as assist rate playing with playing

532
00:36:02,679 --> 00:36:07,000
with the Kugger leak all season,
and I expect around forty points for Shane

533
00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:09,639
Pinto. Really, Greg, I
don't even know if he's gonna be on

534
00:36:09,639 --> 00:36:13,400
the Ottawa Senators, and I'll tell
you that right now. To start the

535
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:19,880
season with him with Kuga Lea Pinto, maybe Matthew Joseph on the right side,

536
00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:24,320
there's no fit for really Greg unless
Matthew Joseph gets dealt. The fourth

537
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:30,320
line right now on the last side
will be Parker Kelly or Eury Schmeckel,

538
00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:36,199
who is a European free agent.
I think he played in Finland last year,

539
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,239
believe, and he's obviously he's a
check and they're really high on him.

540
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,920
He had a really good World World
Championship performs and on the pick performance,

541
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:50,280
they expect him actually to make the
roster. They're kind of banking on

542
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,760
it. So I think, really
Greg will get more playing time in Belleville,

543
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:58,199
but again, training camp, preseason, it's hard to say, and

544
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,000
I think I Ridley the rights,
not at least on the third line.

545
00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:05,400
I think they want him playing eighteen
to twenty minutes in Belleville every night,

546
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,760
So that's that's something again to look
at. But he's definitely going to play

547
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:13,119
ANHIL games this season. He's probably
obviously be the first guy up injury or

548
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:16,239
something something or something happens. But
again I'm not one hundred percent sure he's

549
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:21,480
going to start the season. Training
camp, preseason, will you know,

550
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,119
will be well be up to him
obviously, see you know how he does

551
00:37:25,199 --> 00:37:30,239
and how he performs. I kind
of want to get to the defenceman here,

552
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:31,760
Marie. I mean, there's there
are a lot of guys to talk

553
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:37,599
about on this team, But there's
some really prominent defenceman here, and Thomas

554
00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:42,159
Shabbat is the first one that we'll
mention. It's a very crowded blue line.

555
00:37:42,199 --> 00:37:45,159
He's carried a very heavy load ever
since Eric Carlson left. I ran

556
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,199
the numbers. Since twenty nineteen,
there have been four hundred and twenty four

557
00:37:49,199 --> 00:37:53,239
defensemen who've skated at least fifteen minutes
of ice time. Shabbat's average time on

558
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:58,440
ice during that time of twenty five
forty five is second only to Drew Dowdy

559
00:37:58,559 --> 00:38:01,679
over that time. He's missed a
bit over thirty games over the past three

560
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:07,599
years, so the Nixon tears are
adding up from all that usage. Definitely

561
00:38:07,639 --> 00:38:12,119
got help now to alleviate the burden
this year. His productions quite steady ten

562
00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:15,320
goals, thirty one assists, forty
one points and sixty eight games. Last

563
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:19,639
year is dead on for his points
per sixty for three years running. He's

564
00:38:19,639 --> 00:38:22,239
pretty much very consistent there, two
blocks, one plus hit, two plus

565
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,440
shots per game. His power play
time and I has dipped a bit towards

566
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,039
the end of the year. Again, this is a team that gets a

567
00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:30,960
lot of power play time on ice, so there's plenty to go around,

568
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,719
one would think, but there's also
several defensemen to take it. Do you

569
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,039
expect that Shabbat? And we'll talk
about the arrivals that are probably crowding him

570
00:38:39,039 --> 00:38:43,199
a little bit. But is he
going to get the same heavy minutes production

571
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,239
and role this year that he has
in the past. I don't think so,

572
00:38:45,679 --> 00:38:50,239
and I think that's on purpose.
Obviously, he said he's played too

573
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,840
much and his body has been you
know, he's been wearing gown. He

574
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:59,159
does play too much, and that's
when he does play too much, and

575
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:04,880
he's prone some defensive miscuse. But
again that's just being tired literally, and

576
00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:07,639
they I think they're going to probably
try to cut his spins down, you

577
00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:10,360
know, a couple of minutes a
game. Obviously, getting Jacob tickerin,

578
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:15,199
hopefully healthy playing a full season will
do that. We're not sure who even

579
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,400
Shabad is playing with. It will
be again Art tim Zoo, will be

580
00:39:19,519 --> 00:39:23,119
Jacob Chickran. We don't know as
far as the power play goes, so

581
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:28,000
I guess the latter end. Before
he got injured, Jake Sanderson was starting

582
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,519
to get a lot of play on
the number one unit as well. Jake

583
00:39:30,639 --> 00:39:35,800
Anderson's got great vision, great shot. He's one of the best skaters in

584
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,440
the NHL at a chance to really, you know, to see him play

585
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:44,360
a full game, and he's only
going to get better. Some people project

586
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,280
him to be a Norse Trophy candidate, you know, you know, three

587
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,159
four years down the line, and
that's how that's how good he is and

588
00:39:50,199 --> 00:39:53,159
how much potentially has. It's one
of those steady Eddie players who you know,

589
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:57,679
and especially in his first season,
you've seen it, so I don't

590
00:39:57,679 --> 00:40:00,199
have to tell you too much about
that. But sa Anderson, I think

591
00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:02,760
we'll cut into the sum of the
playing time. So you have a you

592
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,920
have a you have three players.
Obviously you're gonna have one defenseman on the

593
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,320
first power play unit, two on
second unit. I think you're going to

594
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:14,519
see a bit of a rotation to
keep them all playing because they're between Sanderson,

595
00:40:14,599 --> 00:40:17,320
Chickeren and she bought. You know, they're very good offensively. So

596
00:40:17,519 --> 00:40:22,119
you got the three. So I
don't think there's gonna be a steady person

597
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:25,440
on the number one unit and a
pair on the second unit. I think

598
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:30,719
they're gonna maybe play rotation, and
again depends on maybe who has a hot

599
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,960
hand during during the game. I
think it's going to be one of those

600
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,440
things where the coaching star is gonna, you know, feel out the game

601
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,599
and then put who they you know, who they think should be on that

602
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:44,159
unit in that game. I don't
think there's gonna be a particular number.

603
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,000
It's it's gonna be different. I
guess a lot of teams don't do this,

604
00:40:46,039 --> 00:40:50,239
but I think I think you're gonna
see they're gonna look at the minutes

605
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,639
played and they're just gonna base everything
on there and just and just maybe rotate

606
00:40:52,679 --> 00:40:58,199
them through because obviously, as you're
aware there, Sanderson, Chickeren, and

607
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,760
Schabat are all very good offensively.
Yeah, I'll have the offensive potential.

608
00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:07,320
Shabat's probably gonna get again same range
forty to fifty points. Chickern healthy.

609
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,199
Chickern again, you know when he
said eight, he's not healthy all the

610
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:15,159
time. But Chickeren, you know, he got thirty three points last year

611
00:41:15,199 --> 00:41:20,679
in forty eight games. Even if
he plays seventy games, you're looking at,

612
00:41:21,079 --> 00:41:24,199
you know, over forty points for
him, forty plus points, so

613
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:30,079
and he has potentially to get fifty
points. And Jake Sanderson got to thirty

614
00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:32,320
thirty one points last year in his
rookie season. He's going to play more

615
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:36,960
minutes this year, and I think
that number is also going to push you

616
00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:40,440
around forty points. So you have
three defense when you can equally distribute this

617
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:45,280
This team, as you as you
say, is it's a highly powered adds

618
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,400
some highly powered offensive. They put
up some great numbers offensively, So if

619
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,880
they can only score five on five, that's that's again, that's a key

620
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,360
for that team. There'll be a
dominating team if they can score five on

621
00:41:55,519 --> 00:42:00,119
five. I've improved those numbers with
the eighth ran power play, and I

622
00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:02,320
think most of the season they were
anywhere between two and five on the power

623
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:07,119
play. They can if they you
know, stay around you know, eight

624
00:42:07,159 --> 00:42:10,400
to five to eight and they can
improve their five on five play. Just

625
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:15,960
that increase of numbers and per game
in pretty good goals per game should gain

626
00:42:16,039 --> 00:42:19,559
a few more points in the standings. I'm not an analytic sky, but

627
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:24,360
just common sense is that you're gonna
if you score more five on five combined

628
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:29,400
with a good power play, you're
gonna score I reach more goals per game

629
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:35,639
than that will give you more wins. Obviously. CHICKGRN Obviously he missed some

630
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,480
games with injury and sitting out.
When he was playing, he had at

631
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:42,800
fifty six point pace with a whole
lot of block shots and hits two years

632
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,960
left at four and a half million. You know, obviously only twelve games

633
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,840
with Ottawa, so maybe hard to
kind of say, but as you mentioned,

634
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,079
probably we'll get some power play time
and probably can get some pretty decent

635
00:42:54,159 --> 00:42:58,199
time on ice and increase those those
counting stats that we love, right,

636
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,360
I think you said, you know, I think he can hit that fifty

637
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:06,320
plus point mark again, Jacob Kicker
if if he plays a full season,

638
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,719
if he does play, you know, seventy plus games, and yeah,

639
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,880
he's definitely gonna hit fifty points.
He's also motivated to another guy, just

640
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,840
like Clod Drew speaking about Jacob Trickham
is an Ottawa guy and he grew up.

641
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:22,639
He grew up in Ottawa. His
cottage. They have a family cottage

642
00:43:22,639 --> 00:43:27,480
just outside the city, even though
he was born in Florida and they the

643
00:43:27,559 --> 00:43:30,159
family did move to Florida in their
later years. Obviously, his dad,

644
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:35,079
Jeff, is actually an analyst on
the Florida Panthers broadcast, but they summer

645
00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:37,760
in Ottawa. Regardless. They have
a cottage like such a family cottage outside

646
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,559
Ottawa, so he's always been around, being all around. His grandparents are

647
00:43:42,559 --> 00:43:45,760
here, so his family's here.
So again you got a motivated player like

648
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,960
a Clod Drew. So I think, you know again, he's going to

649
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,519
come. He comes to the rink
and he wants to put on a show

650
00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:54,239
for you know, for his family. And yeah, I think fifty points

651
00:43:54,239 --> 00:44:00,480
is not out of the realm.
Well, you said Jake Sanders was a

652
00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:04,800
guy who was all the way up
in your voting last year. He certainly

653
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,559
had an exceptional years. Actually the
thirty eighth best defenseman for fantasy purposes,

654
00:44:08,559 --> 00:44:13,079
which is no slouching. By the
end of the season, he was skating

655
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:15,559
the most minutes of any defenseman on
the team had for chickering and Shabbat were

656
00:44:15,559 --> 00:44:20,280
shut down. He already had nearly
as many minutes on the top power play

657
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,599
as Shabbat last year. So what
are we looking at with Sanderson? Is

658
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:28,599
this this thirty two points to seventy
seven games that we had. Is that

659
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,159
kind of going to be his role
or do you expect a bigger breakout for

660
00:44:31,199 --> 00:44:35,880
his second year. I don't know
what the goal totals, but this totals

661
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,760
are going to go out. I
think he's going to be consistently one of

662
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:44,519
those guys who is gonna get anywhere
from eight to twelve goals, and eventually

663
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,320
I think he's going to get you
know, forty plus forty assists range.

664
00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:52,800
He has that potential. Also,
looking at his minutes, I don't know

665
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,960
if he's gonna do that this season, so project him that high. I

666
00:44:55,000 --> 00:45:00,800
think he may be closer to forty
points this year, but I think as

667
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,000
you know, as his career goes, I think he's gonna be up to

668
00:45:04,039 --> 00:45:07,039
the fifty point range for sure.
And he's just that good of a player.

669
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,880
Also, when you compare him,
you look at all in Power,

670
00:45:10,119 --> 00:45:15,280
and that is why some people question
me, why did I put Jack Anderson's

671
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:22,119
second. I've bumped all Empowered to
third for the caldern JACKX Anderson plays meaningful

672
00:45:22,159 --> 00:45:25,599
minutes. Bale Power did not look
at it that way. Go Empower did

673
00:45:25,639 --> 00:45:30,159
not his penalty kill. He only
played eighty six minutes on the power on

674
00:45:30,199 --> 00:45:34,239
the penalty kick kill all season.
Jacks Anderson, I believe was the most

675
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,880
amount rookies for defense, and I
believe I'd have to backtrack, but I

676
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:44,840
believe he was second or third in
the entire NHL for defense when in peking

677
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:49,119
minutes he had well over two hundred
and two hundred and twenty or two hundred

678
00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:53,000
and thirty minutes on the PK.
So there is that he has. I

679
00:45:53,039 --> 00:45:55,760
mean, I don't know if that
has fantasy value in any way, but

680
00:45:57,159 --> 00:46:00,239
he does if that's shop walking because
he's on the PK. But again,

681
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:05,320
as far as part of the player, I think his potential is probably the

682
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,840
ten is up up around the fifty
point range. But I believe this season

683
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:13,119
he's probably gonna he's going to get
increased those numbers. He's gonna get a

684
00:46:13,159 --> 00:46:15,760
little bit more power play time,
which he didn't get last season until,

685
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,880
let the latter part of the year
obviously, when when Shabat was injured because

686
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,840
Branstrom was playing, they had,
you know, they had you know,

687
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:29,480
fill and defenseman until he got acclimented
to the NHL. So then Tanderson got

688
00:46:29,519 --> 00:46:32,679
a lot more power power play time. So I think forty points of this

689
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:37,559
season is realistic. Yeah, and
you just mentioned Branstrom is the next guy

690
00:46:37,559 --> 00:46:39,639
I wanted to ask you about.
I've been a fan of his for a

691
00:46:39,679 --> 00:46:44,760
long time. I really was hoping
that he would have a little bit more

692
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:49,159
opportunity and be able to demonstrate a
little bit more what he can do.

693
00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:52,199
But his underlying numbers are really great. If you look at his expected goals

694
00:46:52,199 --> 00:46:55,360
for goals against, he's really up
there in the top, you know,

695
00:46:55,480 --> 00:47:00,599
twentieth percentile of the league. But
he gets limited opportunity. But if you

696
00:47:00,639 --> 00:47:04,719
believe in the two hundred game played
threshold, he's right there. He's just

697
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,960
you know, first ten games he'll
hit that he could still emerge, you

698
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,719
know, as being a really solid
defender. But of course he has those

699
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:15,559
three big guys that we just talked
about ahead of him. But he also

700
00:47:15,079 --> 00:47:19,519
only got the sixth time on ice
of any Senator defender, just barely more

701
00:47:19,559 --> 00:47:22,519
than Jacob Bernard Docker for the limited
games he played, and behind Artom Zoob

702
00:47:22,559 --> 00:47:28,920
and Travis Hamineck. So do you
think that Branstrom can continue to develop and

703
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,400
have you know, more of a
role than being the six sixth most time

704
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:37,840
on ice for any senator defender.
Unfortunately, I don't think so, and

705
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:42,480
I know his underlying numbers do show
that he has that he does have potential,

706
00:47:43,119 --> 00:47:45,039
But I think with the players in
front of him. As you just

707
00:47:45,559 --> 00:47:51,360
mentioned, I don't see a way
firing an injury. Unfortunately that he's only

708
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,280
he's going to be a five sixth
defenseman with the Senators, and he mean

709
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:58,039
out of NBA five six defenseman with
the Senators. That's that's something else at

710
00:47:58,039 --> 00:48:01,000
the moment. Obviously discussed it just
right at the beginning there. They need

711
00:48:01,079 --> 00:48:05,679
to sign restrict your free agent Shane
Pinto. They only have three hundred and

712
00:48:05,679 --> 00:48:09,840
seventy five thousands to spend. Someone's
got to go. And they also have

713
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:16,880
Tyler Clevin obviously waiting, and Jenny
Jacob Barnard doctor Jacob doc docor cannot be

714
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:22,360
waived this year. He's not waiver
eligible, so there's that. So and

715
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,480
they resigned Javis Hamanick. So by
resigning Hamaneck, I think they might have

716
00:48:25,519 --> 00:48:30,800
Hamstrom Branstrom to a point where you
basically have you could have a eight defenseman

717
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:35,719
if you include Clubbin and I think
they want a physical player on the back

718
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,800
end on the third pair. So
because of that, you might see a

719
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:44,360
Tyler Clevin get some games in with
Hamaneck. And I don't know where,

720
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,760
So either Jacob Bernard, Docker or
Branston. One of them may may end

721
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:52,000
up going to be honest, and
I don't know, you know if you

722
00:48:52,199 --> 00:48:55,440
because if you want a physical back
end on the third there, that pair

723
00:48:55,519 --> 00:49:00,519
will also kill penalties because a lot
of the Senators Shabbat kind of shies away.

724
00:49:00,519 --> 00:49:04,760
They shy away from killing colonies,
and you know, so there's certain

725
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:08,480
guys you don't want killing colonies.
So basically, again, I'm not sure

726
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,760
I Branston's going to be a full
time player on the Cenators or shure.

727
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,960
It'll be tough to say, but
I think someone's going and by signing Travis

728
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:21,440
Hammanick and giving him two years,
I don't think he's going anywhere. So

729
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:25,480
it's going to be interesting to see
how September plays out on that back end.

730
00:49:25,519 --> 00:49:30,360
It's something to watch and just obviously
we'll see how it plays out.

731
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,840
But I think Clubin's going to get
in there somehow, whether he's the five

732
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:37,039
or six. So I think it'll
be on the third pair. And will

733
00:49:37,039 --> 00:49:40,039
Hammonick be despair, will burn our
Doctor'll be despair? I don't know.

734
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:45,360
So it's again it's an interesting situation, but I don't see Branstrom if he

735
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:50,719
is on the roster. I don't
see him, you know, obviously moving

736
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,719
up to the second pair, So
I don't I think he'll be exactly what's

737
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:59,880
last season and get to the third
pair of minutes. Well, frankly,

738
00:50:00,119 --> 00:50:01,199
as someone as a fan of his, I wouldn't mind if he moved to

739
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:05,800
a different organization got a different opportunity. We'll have to see. But you

740
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,320
bring up some really good points about
the d let's switch over to the goalies

741
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:14,039
now and last season the center's rank
sixteenth and expected goals against for sixty,

742
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,039
but conceded the twenty first ranked actual
goals, so they were a little bit

743
00:50:17,039 --> 00:50:21,440
behind. And they went out and
made a big free agent signing with Unice

744
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,039
Corporate Salo after he had a pretty
good season with Columbus and then went to

745
00:50:25,199 --> 00:50:30,599
LA obviously and overall had some pretty
decent numbers, although he's had a pretty

746
00:50:30,639 --> 00:50:34,519
up and down career. I would
say five years at four million is not

747
00:50:34,599 --> 00:50:38,519
like a massive investment. And of
course they have Anton Forsberg who seems like

748
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:43,239
he did pretty well and limited action. He has two years left at two

749
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,440
point seven five, so it seems
pretty clear like they brought Corporate Salo and

750
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:50,599
to be the starter and Anton Forsburg
maybe to be the backup or the one

751
00:50:50,679 --> 00:50:52,840
B. So what do you think
we can expect from these two? Do

752
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:59,440
you think that Corporate Salo can keep
his up year trajectory going. I also

753
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,599
wonder if how the fit is for
the defense in front of him, because

754
00:51:02,639 --> 00:51:07,320
he's a guy who seems to thrive
in certain situations, but maybe struggle and

755
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,719
others. So what do you think
we can expect from the center's goaltending next

756
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:15,199
season? I think with the defense
as is within, with the core getting

757
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:20,079
Chickern, I think Sanderson, you
know, going with second year Zuphaba thought

758
00:51:20,119 --> 00:51:23,599
sort of those guys. I think
the centers will be better defensively this season,

759
00:51:24,199 --> 00:51:27,440
especially if you get if you can
get full seasons out of out of

760
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:32,079
these players. Corporatelo he finished really
well in LA I think what's seventh,

761
00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:36,079
three and one and re call his
goals against, but it was in the

762
00:51:36,119 --> 00:51:39,159
low twos, I believe, and
he obviously wrote that wave into free agency

763
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:45,840
and on time. Forresburg is healthy
as far as we know, and he's

764
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:50,159
been working you know, he's been
working out and he's ready to go as

765
00:51:50,199 --> 00:51:53,840
well. I suspect Forresburg is what
he is at this point, he's a

766
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:58,679
decent you know, but some decent
numbers. He's in the middle of pack.

767
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,400
I think Goldie's in the NHL,
and I think I don't see that

768
00:52:01,519 --> 00:52:06,960
being any different as far as Corpuslo
goes. If he can ride. You

769
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,719
know what he did in LA into
this season, that's a that's a solid

770
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:14,199
pair, and they were actually a
pair at one point in Columbus. I

771
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,320
believer in the in the farm system
for the HL. They want a cup

772
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:20,920
together as a as a duo in
the HL, they want to call it

773
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:25,679
the Cup. And I think my
projection is Corpuslo will probably play I would

774
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:30,079
think forty five games Presburg played,
but you know, thirty five sort of

775
00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:36,159
thing, thirty seven providing again low
injuries. And I think the centers will

776
00:52:36,199 --> 00:52:42,159
probably be as far as the goaltending
goes, probably like in maybe twelve range

777
00:52:42,199 --> 00:52:45,360
and that you know, they'll be
better in the defensively, they'll be better

778
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,719
than they did last season. How
much better, I don't know, but

779
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:52,119
I expecting, you know, decent
seasons from them from from the pair,

780
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:57,880
That's what I would think. And
again the defense I think will be better

781
00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:00,280
as well. So I don't think
they'll give the many goals against, So

782
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:06,119
I think on the whole, I
think the goaltending, providing they stayed the

783
00:53:06,159 --> 00:53:08,760
way they are, I think they'll
just obviously get a little bit better as

784
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:14,559
well. And obviously with the experience
of the team's the young team and they've

785
00:53:14,559 --> 00:53:17,159
just been obviously they got you know, they're on the cusp. They're better

786
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,800
last year, and I think this
should they'll be a little bit better.

787
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,800
You know, every year they're going
to get a little bit better. So

788
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,480
I think the goaltending I think will
be solid to share. Unfortune for last

789
00:53:25,559 --> 00:53:30,360
year, Cam Talbot ran into a
string of injuries, was injured three different

790
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,800
times and he just he just could
never get it going last year, so

791
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,960
that limited them. They went through
seven goalies last season, which is a

792
00:53:37,039 --> 00:53:39,880
record for the team, believe it
or not. In double they went through

793
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:45,199
thirteen goalies in the HL team,
so that was that was an insane number.

794
00:53:45,679 --> 00:53:49,679
And again I think they'll probably in
the middle of the pack, maybe

795
00:53:50,119 --> 00:53:53,519
in the ten to twelve ranging in
goaltending next season. Wow, well that

796
00:53:53,519 --> 00:53:58,880
would make the difference with a young
team like this to get some great backstopping,

797
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,679
bring back the spirit of the Hamburgler
to try to empower them through.

798
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:07,000
But murray, you've griven us a
lot of great information about this very exciting

799
00:54:07,079 --> 00:54:10,599
Ottawa Senators franchise coming into next year. Let us you let people know how

800
00:54:10,639 --> 00:54:14,079
they can keep up with your work
all the time and follow you out on

801
00:54:14,119 --> 00:54:16,960
social media. Okay, well,
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802
00:54:17,039 --> 00:54:23,239
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803
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:29,480
at full Press NHL, and I
am at Hammer Hockey and I'm not on

804
00:54:29,519 --> 00:54:32,199
threads or any of these other ones
yet but I'm ep there soon, but

805
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:37,079
you can you can follow us at
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806
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site on the rise as well,
so we're hoping the you know too,

807
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,960
we're still hoping to do good things. We're growing site. It's only the

808
00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:46,320
we're actually only going into our third
season, so we're doing pretty well and

809
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there were up you know five almost
six thousand followers right now, so what

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our site is getting, you know, our site is doing well quite well,

811
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:59,239
and we also got a really large
HL following so as well. We

812
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,039
have an HL editor as well,
so we do really well on outside.

813
00:55:02,119 --> 00:55:08,360
So just everyone go go to Press
hockey dot com. And hopefully you'll you'll

814
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:13,000
like what you see and you'll go
back. You definitely should. Thanks so

815
00:55:13,079 --> 00:55:15,360
much for being on tonight, Murray, and good luck following those senators next

816
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:19,559
year. Okay, thank you Jesse
and Victor Stirling enjoyed it. Thank you

817
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:30,320
Wilson. Then well let's get fired
passed off. Oh my goodness, grow

818
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:37,280
one goal with a cat quick grab. Now it's your weekly goalie talk with

819
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:44,320
Kats Silverman, Cat's Instincts. All
right, time for another edition of Cat's

820
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:49,199
Instincts. Ottawa Senator's Goalie Edition.
Cat Silverman joining us from in goldmag.

821
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,760
We have a few here to talk
about. They have some really interesting goalie

822
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:57,400
prospects and the first one that we're
going to talk about is mad So Guard

823
00:55:58,039 --> 00:56:02,000
twenty nineteen second round pick, six
foot seven. That's huge, one hundred

824
00:56:02,079 --> 00:56:06,800
ninety eight pounds. The Great Dane
split the season between the NHL and the

825
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,599
HL this past season, so it's
nice to see him actually get some NHL

826
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:15,400
games. There were nineteen of them, almost as many as the HL games,

827
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,599
and he did almost in as bad
and both of his and all of

828
00:56:17,679 --> 00:56:23,280
his appearances that numbers really didn't look
good either. Ottawa rolled out five goalies

829
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:28,159
this past year in the NHL,
of course varying number of starts, but

830
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:31,440
so Guard had the worst goals save
above expected at negative nine point five two

831
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:36,199
at even strength as Delta, Fenwick
was one of the worst. If you

832
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,199
look at his hockey prospecting though,
it really does look good. He has

833
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:44,840
a really nice trajectory. He's been
between fifty or forty eight and fifty sixty

834
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,960
three percent chance of being NHL or
his whole time he has. I wanted

835
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,400
to pull up a comp to another
great Danish goaltender, Frederick Anderson, who

836
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:57,199
definitely looks better in this model than
so Guard, but Sober doesn't look too

837
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,280
far behind. And one of the
best comps that I found for him,

838
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:04,840
or might maybe realistic comps, was
Mackenzie Blackwood, who has been this up

839
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,280
and down sort of starter. He's
had a pretty decent role in the league.

840
00:57:08,039 --> 00:57:10,960
Yeah, we have to know what
your instincts tell us about Mad so

841
00:57:12,159 --> 00:57:16,159
Guard. Oh boy, I've been
trying really hard to root for this kid.

842
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:21,960
I spent a little too much time
watching film for him his draft year,

843
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:29,599
just trying to figure out what to
like about his game, and there

844
00:57:29,719 --> 00:57:36,440
was almost nothing. He's huge,
like you said, but he's like you

845
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:43,760
said, you think he's six seven
and he's like one ninety. And if

846
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,480
that sounds skinny to anyone listening,
it is. And it shows he's got

847
00:57:47,599 --> 00:57:52,519
really good reach, he's got really
fast feet, and he has so little

848
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:58,400
limb control, so he opens up
a lot of holes, and he's really

849
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,920
good at getting across the I when
essentially he over commits somewhere he can stop

850
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:07,440
on a diamond turnaround and really get
that reach. So he gets those desperation

851
00:58:07,559 --> 00:58:12,599
saves incredibly well. But he at
least during his draft year, he made

852
00:58:12,679 --> 00:58:15,800
way too many of those, and
I watching him, I was like,

853
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,000
this isn't the kid I'd want to
draft. And then he got drafted anyway,

854
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,239
and he got drafted super high,
and I thought, that's fine,

855
00:58:21,519 --> 00:58:24,639
And I think he's getting there.
I just don't know how much more he

856
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:30,599
can get there, just because I
think he needs a technical overhaul to his

857
00:58:30,039 --> 00:58:35,039
game in order to really reach a
place where we see consistency from him,

858
00:58:35,039 --> 00:58:37,840
Because that's the big red flag for
me, is that he's just inconsistent,

859
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:43,960
which is a large part and due
to the fact that he's so tall and

860
00:58:44,159 --> 00:58:47,920
his limbs are so long, and
he has so much that he needs to

861
00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:52,440
rain in, which is hard to
do when you're making explosive quick movements.

862
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:54,360
So he has to get his tracking
more under control. He has to keep

863
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:58,960
himself a little closer to his goal
line, he has to stay within the

864
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:00,840
blue paint a little better, and
he has to stop opening up so many

865
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:05,480
holes for people to shoot on,
which I think is why when he did

866
00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:09,679
make those NHL appearances, we saw
so much exploitation of his game from people

867
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:15,880
who really know how to pick corners
when they shoot. So we'll see where

868
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:17,559
that goes. It might have been
a wake up college. He's a super

869
00:59:17,679 --> 00:59:22,280
upbeat kid. He's really nice.
He's very willing to learn. I just

870
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:25,639
think he's got a little bit of
an uphill battle to face when it comes

871
00:59:25,679 --> 00:59:32,159
to that learning. So we'll see. All right, it's a real multi

872
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:37,119
national event here because the next goalie
is finished. Levi a marline in that

873
00:59:37,159 --> 00:59:42,679
we're going to talk about. And
they got They got him in twenty twenty

874
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,159
third round pick. He's a six
foot three, one hundred and seventy four

875
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:49,360
pound came up in the car pad
system. I know you've cited that as

876
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,360
one of the best development systems in
Europe, especially for goalies. He got

877
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:58,280
his first taste of the NHLAHL this
past season, where he had just a

878
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,599
handful of games of each. Before
that, he was actually in the OHL

879
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:05,199
last season, a strange development path
there he was with the front knacks,

880
01:00:05,639 --> 01:00:09,360
the round numbers didn't look so good
there. This season he was mainly back

881
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:15,400
in car pat on loan where he
looked pretty good. I know, I

882
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:19,079
think his equivalence he's a little bit
low because he was in that he didn't

883
01:00:19,079 --> 01:00:22,079
play a whole lot of games in
the Liga. Previous to this season he

884
01:00:22,199 --> 01:00:24,639
was at the U eighteen and U
twenty level and then he was in the

885
01:00:24,679 --> 01:00:31,559
OHL. But this past season really
strong Liga campaign. But again his equivalence

886
01:00:32,039 --> 01:00:36,320
right now is just nineteen percent chance
of being an NHL which is low.

887
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,639
And a couple of his best comps
are guys like Miko Koskinen and Mike Condon

888
01:00:40,239 --> 01:00:49,480
tweeter backups. Yeah, that's a
fun one, okay. Tell us to

889
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,199
see your instincts about Marylyna and do
you think he has a good chance to

890
01:00:52,239 --> 01:00:57,880
be better than Mike Condon. I
think most goaltenders have a better chance,

891
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,599
have a chance of being better than
Mike at the NHL level at least,

892
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,400
which is too bad. My Content's
a nice kid. No. I think

893
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,800
it's interesting because, like you said, he came from the car Pop system,

894
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:15,599
and he entered that system at the
same time as you all. Blomquist,

895
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:21,280
who is one of the Pittsburgh draft
picks that they made when they took

896
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,079
a whole slew of goalies so they
could hoard prospects. He was right below

897
01:01:24,199 --> 01:01:29,199
Justice and Noonon, and I believe
there was one other prospect in the system

898
01:01:29,239 --> 01:01:30,840
at the time, now, Nicholas
Coco, who was a I believe second

899
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:36,320
round pick for Seattle. It's also
in that system. So just a wealth

900
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:43,000
of NHL bound goaltenders in that system, and he was below both Blomquist and

901
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,480
a noon in the system. So, like you said, handed up playing

902
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:52,639
when Blomqwist was in the U twenty
and a Noonan was at the I believe

903
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:57,480
that not the league level. He
was the steploid and Mesty. You saw

904
01:01:57,719 --> 01:02:00,679
Marylinen playing in the U eight team, which made it seem like he wasn't

905
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:04,719
quite ready for that jump, and
in reality, I think they just wanted

906
01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:07,760
to make sure he was getting those
game reps and getting the development time,

907
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:13,440
and so at each level he's been
moving up just right behind Blonk Fist and

908
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,199
doing really well at each level.
I thought he had some really nice looks

909
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:23,119
last year. He did not amazingly
well during his NHL debuts, which the

910
01:02:23,239 --> 01:02:29,000
fact that he made an NHL debut
last year it is indicative of what Idawa

911
01:02:29,079 --> 01:02:31,280
went through. They hit themselves a
moment, but he did really well in

912
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:35,320
the NHL when he got a chance
to sneak in there for a bit.

913
01:02:36,559 --> 01:02:39,760
I think he looks good. I
think he's not quite on the same tier

914
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:44,079
as in Noonan and blonk Post too. I thought looked like as soon as

915
01:02:44,119 --> 01:02:45,960
they made it to North America they'd
need a year of HL and then be

916
01:02:46,119 --> 01:02:50,239
NHL ready. I think he looks
like he needs a little more development than

917
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:57,679
that. But he looks confident and
consistent, and I almost would reverse him

918
01:02:57,719 --> 01:03:01,440
and so Guard in their prospect system, which is funny because I think just

919
01:03:01,679 --> 01:03:07,320
based on size and how quickly they
moved through the ranks of their respective teams,

920
01:03:07,519 --> 01:03:10,760
it's been reversed. So we've seen
so Guard as the one who's the

921
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:15,880
top tier, and then we've seen
Marylyn and after that, and my prediction

922
01:03:16,079 --> 01:03:20,880
is that it's going to end up
being the other way around. But they

923
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:27,159
could surprise me, especially if the
team gives so Guard more chances and exposure

924
01:03:27,239 --> 01:03:30,760
than they give Marylyn And who has
a very robust system back home to go

925
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:36,000
back to if he wants to nice
see, I was going to ask you

926
01:03:36,079 --> 01:03:38,400
if you would reverse the order on
any of these, and it seems like

927
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:42,519
a lot of times they're when you're
looking at depth charts and call ups,

928
01:03:42,559 --> 01:03:45,960
a lot of times they just go
by height and like size, who has

929
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:50,880
the biggest frame do let's thank you? Yeah, you're big. Speaking of

930
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:54,119
another big guy, and we'll see
if you switch the order on him.

931
01:03:54,159 --> 01:03:58,760
But Kevin Mandalis is another one that
we should probably mentioned. Twenty eighteen,

932
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,039
sixth round pick, so he's definitely
a bit older. He's not twenty two.

933
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:06,360
He's six four hundred and eighty so
pretty big, tall but also slight.

934
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:10,039
He played in all the leagues this
year. He was I think he

935
01:04:10,119 --> 01:04:13,239
was trying to go for the he
got the trifecta. Maybe he was going

936
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:16,880
for the poor set. He got
the NHL AHL and ECHL well done,

937
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:21,280
sir, And he played mostly in
the HL, he got three NHL games.

938
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:26,239
Actually, his saber centers look good. In the NHL, he was

939
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:30,679
surprisingly worse than the HL, though, of all of them. And there's

940
01:04:30,719 --> 01:04:34,039
a lot of goalie comps for Kevin
Mandeleys because he's been around so long and

941
01:04:34,199 --> 01:04:38,519
he came up in the queue.
Then he's been in the HL and the

942
01:04:38,559 --> 01:04:43,159
EHL, and there's exactly one comp
in the hockey prospect and model that looks

943
01:04:43,199 --> 01:04:45,840
good for him, and that's Corey
Crawford, and the rest are all bus

944
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,280
And I think the guy that he
looks the most like is Alex Staylock,

945
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:56,519
who has had a very career.
Yeah, and he's definitely much taller than

946
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,400
Staylock. So anyways, what do
you think about Kevin Mandeley. Is he

947
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,840
the third of this trio or does
he have more upside? What do you

948
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:08,559
think? I don't know if he
necessarily has more upside. Kids that come

949
01:05:08,599 --> 01:05:13,480
from the Q and JHL, it's
so hard because there's so much variance in

950
01:05:13,559 --> 01:05:20,639
that league that you'll see guys who
post a sub nine hundred safe percentage they're

951
01:05:20,719 --> 01:05:27,599
in entire tenure in the HL,
and it'll just be because they're playing on

952
01:05:27,679 --> 01:05:34,079
a team that almost is entirely comprised
of junior A players versus major junior players,

953
01:05:34,199 --> 01:05:39,920
and then you'll see another kid who
played behind a powerhouse team like the

954
01:05:40,039 --> 01:05:44,079
Monkedin Wildcats, and they'll have a
much better safe percentage. And it almost

955
01:05:44,159 --> 01:05:47,679
has more to do with how many
shots they're having to face and whether they

956
01:05:47,719 --> 01:05:50,679
have any defense in front of them
than it does their actual style. And

957
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:58,000
the resources are different depending on Some
of the teams in the Maritimes have more

958
01:05:58,119 --> 01:06:00,360
resources to work with and some of
the other ones, and it's an interesting

959
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:04,519
league to watch, but it makes
it very hard to pinpoint which of those

960
01:06:04,599 --> 01:06:10,400
guys is necessarily going to be NHL
ready. Every time I've watched Kevin Mandeli's

961
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:14,519
I've thought he looks fine. I'm
not super excited by him, but I'm

962
01:06:14,559 --> 01:06:18,639
also not shocked that he got an
NHL look and I'm not shocked that he

963
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:24,519
did well during those games, because
number one, he's used to playing behind

964
01:06:24,599 --> 01:06:30,480
some chaotic teams, especially in the
queue, and his style just he's one

965
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,800
of those who he just remains consistent
and constant. He doesn't do anything overly

966
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:40,320
exciting. He's the opposite of Met
Soguard, who is nothing but exciting,

967
01:06:40,719 --> 01:06:45,280
and then Mandoli's is just he's just
there and he does fine, And I

968
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:49,079
think that's a good thing for Ottawa
to have in their system. Like respectfully

969
01:06:49,159 --> 01:06:54,440
to Ottawa, I think that having
someone that isn't going to wow them,

970
01:06:54,639 --> 01:06:59,840
but isn't going to absolutely panic and
tank them is something that maybe they could

971
01:07:00,159 --> 01:07:03,119
a little more of. So we'll
see. I think any one of those

972
01:07:03,199 --> 01:07:08,880
guys could become their next to NHLer, but I don't necessarily want to see

973
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,719
any of them at the NHL level
yet full time, just because I want

974
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:15,719
to see Ottawa do a little better
before they throw any of those guys to

975
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:20,480
the wolves. Oh, that'll probably
happen, since they have a pretty good

976
01:07:20,519 --> 01:07:26,960
one. They have some pretty good
NHLers though right now, so at least

977
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,840
I think that's true. That's true. They can hold unless they have the

978
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,400
rash of injuries. They have a
Corpuslo who they paid a lot for,

979
01:07:33,719 --> 01:07:38,280
and they have pent on forest works
at least for both for a couple of

980
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:43,199
years, So maybe we won't see
the trotting out of all their prospects in

981
01:07:43,239 --> 01:07:45,960
the NHL for a while. We'll
see, But thanks so much for giving

982
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:51,920
us your instincts. On the Ottawa
Senator's goalies. We'll be back right after

983
01:07:53,000 --> 01:08:15,199
this Dynasta Senator prospects. That's right, the Ottawa Senators are middle of the

984
01:08:15,319 --> 01:08:21,319
road. They're tied for fourteenth and
Victor's model for prospect system rankings, and

985
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:26,840
it all starts with the no brainer. Who is that, Victor? We're

986
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:31,000
gonna go with Ridley greg He is
someone who is a little bit older and

987
01:08:31,079 --> 01:08:34,359
the prospects share is only twenty one, but he did actually play some NHL

988
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:38,880
games this year. There's a twenty
twenty first round pick, twenty eighth overall,

989
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,279
six foot, one hundred and eighty
three pounds. He had twenty nine

990
01:08:42,319 --> 01:08:45,640
points and thirty nine games for PHL
Belleville and then, as I mentioned,

991
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:49,359
twenty games for others centers nine points, so almost half point per games.

992
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:55,039
Not bad. He does really well
in some of the banger categories. Thirty

993
01:08:55,079 --> 01:08:58,800
three hits in those twenty games is
not bad. He's not shooting a whole

994
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:00,880
lot, but he's also really young
for the NHL, so we can't hold

995
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:05,479
that completely against him. He also
was getting some face off wins, which

996
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:10,319
is pretty nice. He's got two
years left on his ELC and it's actually

997
01:09:10,359 --> 01:09:13,279
compressive. If you look at his
evolving hockey data, it's only two hundred

998
01:09:13,319 --> 01:09:15,760
and twenty five minutes of time on
ice at even strength, so not the

999
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:20,279
largest sample size, but he's well
above average and pretty much every category from

1000
01:09:20,319 --> 01:09:26,479
expected goals four to against and COURSI
four and against gayic goals for that bo

1001
01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:30,319
is pretty well for a young player
looking to translate what he can do into

1002
01:09:30,359 --> 01:09:33,439
a little bit larger roles. But
let's hear a little bit more about what

1003
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:38,760
our FHL scouts have to say about
Ridley Greg Jesse. This one is from

1004
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:44,319
Puneet and thank you for your scouting
expertise here. Skating, It's very strong,

1005
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,760
acceleration, is fast from a stationary
position for defense, good at drawing

1006
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:53,479
players into create open space for his
teammates. Compete level when playing defense at

1007
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:57,479
five on five is the concern with
This guy does a really good job making

1008
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,760
it look like he really hates to
play defense. That's not what you want

1009
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:03,079
to hear. Floats around an open
space to make it look like he's doing

1010
01:10:03,159 --> 01:10:06,039
his part, but he's waiting for
his teammates to get the puck for an

1011
01:10:06,079 --> 01:10:12,920
offensive transition. Play. The top
tier punit says, a tier three for

1012
01:10:13,279 --> 01:10:16,680
our fantasy purposes, which is sixty
to seventy points with average Bash most likely

1013
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:23,159
tier what looks more likely would be
like a below average Bash at fifty to

1014
01:10:23,239 --> 01:10:27,920
sixty points at most stylistic comparable close
to a mid tier Zach Hyman, he

1015
01:10:28,039 --> 01:10:31,479
says, and Grieg is looking at
a mid to bottom six role with his

1016
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:36,319
current play. Needs to show more
enthusiasm at playing defense if he wants more

1017
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:44,279
ice time. The NHL ranked King
Mason Black compares him to Tyson Forster in

1018
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,720
our poll today, Tyson Forrester,
who has drafted the same year, five

1019
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:53,720
picks ahead of mister Greig, and
the people say that Forrester still belongs a

1020
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:57,800
little bit ahead of Ridley Grieg fifty
three to forty seven percent. Is that

1021
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:01,399
what you're seeing, Victor, Yeah, I don't know about that. I

1022
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:06,760
like Forrester. I think he's done
some really nice things with his limited sample

1023
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:11,279
size. I think if you just
look at the AHL numbers, then Greeg

1024
01:11:11,399 --> 01:11:15,000
was higher and he had a pretty
nice stint in the NHL. Forrester played

1025
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,199
eight games and had seven points,
So I guess if you parade that out,

1026
01:11:18,279 --> 01:11:21,199
he's like a point per game plus
player, but I don't think that's

1027
01:11:21,279 --> 01:11:28,439
realistic obviously, So I think both
these guys are going to be probably somewhat

1028
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:31,239
relevant players. I think that they
have different styles, whereas Gregg is more

1029
01:11:31,279 --> 01:11:33,960
of a banger and Forster is more
of a scorer. So I guess you

1030
01:11:34,039 --> 01:11:38,239
can read into that. But you
like obviously Forrester, you like the score

1031
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:41,279
more in general, but I'm not
sure that Forrester scoring is going to be

1032
01:11:41,359 --> 01:11:44,640
high end enough. I guess that's
the question will he be able to do

1033
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:48,359
that? I think if I'm looking
at just who's on the team and what

1034
01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:54,600
the potential to rise, Forrester I
think is a higher level prospect in that

1035
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:57,600
system. Obviously, they did really
well at the draft this year with Meechkoff,

1036
01:11:57,640 --> 01:12:00,199
but he's several years away, so
you like that opportunity for Forrester.

1037
01:12:00,399 --> 01:12:03,880
I think Greg is probably going to
be a middle sixer just based on who

1038
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:08,760
they have there in Ottawa, but
he definitely brings a little bit more physicality.

1039
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,760
So I guess if we're going for
more scoring Forster, if you're looking

1040
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,800
more at that multi category, I
think Greig might be a really solid option.

1041
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,479
So that's how I would break the
TIE and just looking at these guys

1042
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:24,520
hockey prospecting there, it's a little
bit higher. For Greeg he was able

1043
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,840
to finish with a twelve percent chance
of being a star sixty nine percent chance

1044
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,039
of being an NHL or, whereas
Forster trended down from thirty two down to

1045
01:12:30,119 --> 01:12:33,880
five percent chance of being a star. So really doesn't look like he has

1046
01:12:34,319 --> 01:12:39,279
too much potential there anymore, although
he does look good in some other models

1047
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:43,560
like the PNHL E looks decent.
And it should also be mentioned for Forrester

1048
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:47,039
that his development was really disrupted because
he had that COVID year for the OHL

1049
01:12:47,159 --> 01:12:50,880
and he went to the HL really
young, which was tough for a nineteen

1050
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:54,920
year old, and then went back
to the OHL and it was back and

1051
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:58,600
forth. So a little bit interesting
there. Back to Greeg, though,

1052
01:12:59,159 --> 01:13:02,239
one of his comps that I look
that I think is pretty reasonable as Vinny

1053
01:13:02,279 --> 01:13:06,800
Trocheck, and I think we all
love Viny Trocheck and multike category leads because

1054
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:11,279
he just does so much. He
hits and faceoff wins and shots and get

1055
01:13:11,359 --> 01:13:14,199
some special team points, and I
think Greg could be that way. It

1056
01:13:14,319 --> 01:13:16,840
did take Trocheck a little bit of
time to get to that valuable point,

1057
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:18,840
and I think that might be true
for Greg. It is not going to

1058
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:21,840
happen in the next year or two, but it might happen after that.

1059
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:25,720
So you might have to be a
little patient, which might be hard because

1060
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:30,279
I think he'll have some years in
Ottawa before he gets to that point,

1061
01:13:30,159 --> 01:13:34,199
unless he pops off a little sooner. The j Fresh card has Greg at

1062
01:13:34,239 --> 01:13:38,439
just eight percent chance of being a
star, seventy percent chance of being an

1063
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:42,479
NHL or so it seems less likely
to be a big point getter but pretty

1064
01:13:42,560 --> 01:13:45,159
likely to be an NHLer. I
think that's probably the case for both these

1065
01:13:45,199 --> 01:13:47,439
guys. But yeah, that's the
lowdown on Ridley Greg. He the way

1066
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:51,640
time is basically zero. He should
be with the Ottawa Senators full time next

1067
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:57,560
year, which is nice and can
get you some nice supportive numbers in terms

1068
01:13:57,640 --> 01:14:04,359
of block hits and some faceoff wins
and potentially some scoring tremendous victor that was

1069
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:09,560
your first prospect, But who is
your need to know? The you need

1070
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:13,279
to know is Zach A. Stap
Chuck twenty twenty one second round pick,

1071
01:14:13,399 --> 01:14:17,039
six foot three, two hundred and
five pound center and or I guess winger,

1072
01:14:17,199 --> 01:14:23,239
depending on where he ends up,
but he's he moved from the Vancouver

1073
01:14:23,359 --> 01:14:25,800
Giants, where he had twenty nine
points in twenty one games, to the

1074
01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:29,199
Winnipeg Ice where he had thirty four
thirty eight points in thirty four games,

1075
01:14:29,239 --> 01:14:31,680
so just over point per game in
both of them. He also represented Canada

1076
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:36,479
at the World Junior Championships where they
won gold, and he was definitely more

1077
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:41,840
of a depth player there, but
that's actually his second gold with Canada for

1078
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:45,159
the U twenty, so more of
a depth role there and and actually I

1079
01:14:45,279 --> 01:14:47,800
think that's where he probably is going
to end up as a little bit of

1080
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:53,880
foreshadowing, but he should be in
Belleville this upcoming season and so would be

1081
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,000
interesting to see how he translates his
game to the professional level. If you

1082
01:14:57,039 --> 01:15:00,720
look at Mitch Brown's tracking data for
when he was on the Winnipeg Ice,

1083
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:04,920
his offense was actually really low,
which is interesting, especially considering he was

1084
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:11,239
over a point per game in that
time. His expected primary assists for sixty

1085
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:15,640
was pretty low, almost in the
bottom fifteen percent of the league, as

1086
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:18,319
long as his passing and his expected
goals were saverage, which is not something

1087
01:15:18,399 --> 01:15:23,439
you want for an older player,
and that's much bigger and more physically mature

1088
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:27,520
in the WHL, so that was
pretty disappointing. Some of his other metrics

1089
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,399
aren't great. His defense is actually
really good and that's probably going to be

1090
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:33,000
his calling card, I would say, at the next level. And his

1091
01:15:33,079 --> 01:15:36,119
transition game also pretty good. But
let's hear a little bit more about Zach

1092
01:15:36,199 --> 01:15:42,399
a stap Chuck from our FHL scout
Jesse and it's Joshua this time. Talking

1093
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:45,239
about a stap Chuck. He says
the skating is fast and nimble, especially

1094
01:15:45,359 --> 01:15:48,520
for a player of his size at
six three, two hundred five pounder,

1095
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:54,439
capable of building up ahead of steam
and hitting his top speed quickly, which

1096
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:58,079
is mixed with size, strength and
puck skills that make him a nightmare in

1097
01:15:58,079 --> 01:16:00,000
the rush. I don't want a
six three two hundred five guy coming at

1098
01:16:00,079 --> 01:16:04,000
me at full speed. I know
that much passing and handling. Puck handling's

1099
01:16:04,039 --> 01:16:08,760
one of a stap Chuck's strengths,
whether in tight spots or at top speed

1100
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:12,399
in transition. He can play like
the puck is on a string, an

1101
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:16,119
accomplish passer, usually picking a safe
route, but he is also a hard

1102
01:16:16,159 --> 01:16:21,199
and accurate passer for shooting despite mainly
being used as a NetFront presence. He

1103
01:16:21,279 --> 01:16:26,079
has a very strong and accurate shot, which it would be nice to see

1104
01:16:26,079 --> 01:16:30,319
if Stap Chuck use more often.
He's also able to make shots and tight

1105
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:35,079
right against the goalie IQ in the
offensive zone. He's already a mature and

1106
01:16:35,199 --> 01:16:40,920
cool headed player. Vision is good, if a little limited in terms of

1107
01:16:41,079 --> 01:16:45,199
finding his teammates, but he generally
makes the safe decision, trusts his own

1108
01:16:45,239 --> 01:16:48,119
skills enough to get out of tight
spots for checking. A weakness is his

1109
01:16:48,239 --> 01:16:53,239
defensive acumen, and that starts with
ford checking. It starts with his lack

1110
01:16:53,279 --> 01:16:57,199
of anticipation and ability to read the
play as it develops. A bit of

1111
01:16:57,279 --> 01:17:00,479
work in his edgework could help his
mobility and ability to cut off passes and

1112
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:05,680
skaters for defense. Yes, that
is his weakest point his defensive play.

1113
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:11,840
It's a combination of lack of efforts
and inability to effectively read plays. Effective

1114
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:15,479
body and shot blocker and can occasionally
use his side along the boards, but

1115
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:18,720
needs to be more engaged and learn
to use his skills more effectively. And

1116
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:23,520
the number one asset. He is
one of the leaders in the new generation

1117
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:28,039
of power forward, a group defined
by this combination of size, speed,

1118
01:17:28,159 --> 01:17:30,039
and skill. If he can use
that combo, he's going to make a

1119
01:17:30,079 --> 01:17:33,159
good NHL player. He's more than
just a big body in front of the

1120
01:17:33,239 --> 01:17:36,720
net. He could shoot and skate
and stick handle, and that's his biggest

1121
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:42,520
asset is the diversity of a skill
set. The biggest concern again the defensive

1122
01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:45,520
play. The pieces are there,
the physicalities there, you just got to

1123
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:49,560
get it together. Top tier possibility
outcome here top six complementary forward with the

1124
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:55,760
right linemates thirty forty seventy if developed
correctly, does have a very good shot

1125
01:17:55,800 --> 01:18:00,479
and the capability to burn defenses in
multiple ways, especially if he adds a

1126
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:05,199
better vision for his teammates and passing
lanes. The middle outcome middle to bottom

1127
01:18:05,199 --> 01:18:10,680
six forward that can ship in offensively. If his off puck play and defensive

1128
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:14,520
capabilities don't improve, he may be
more of a liability than he is worth

1129
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:18,439
if the scoring doesn't translate. If
he continues to develop solely as a NetFront,

1130
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:23,159
peasants a one dimensional role. He
has been put in at the OHL

1131
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:29,159
that's going to cap out his ceiling
and the stylistic comparable he resembles other neopower

1132
01:18:29,239 --> 01:18:32,000
forwards of today's game. Josh Anderson
comes to mind for Joshua. Although a

1133
01:18:32,039 --> 01:18:38,199
Stapchuck is more consistent and has a
better shot a lesser Tage Thompson Woo,

1134
01:18:38,399 --> 01:18:43,359
that sounds nice. The NHL rank
King Mason Black gave us the poll on

1135
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:46,079
this guy. In a Stapchuck is
up against Fraser Minton. Get a little

1136
01:18:46,079 --> 01:18:53,279
bit of Toronto maple Leaf love here, and the PNHL equivalency for a stock

1137
01:18:53,359 --> 01:18:57,359
Chuck is all the way up into
second line potential these days. Carter Ashton,

1138
01:18:57,439 --> 01:19:01,359
Brock McGinn and Andrew Kopp are his
cloth translations. But back to a

1139
01:19:01,399 --> 01:19:05,920
stop Chuck versus Minton, the grudge
match, the Toronto maple Leaf comes out

1140
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:12,079
ahead of the Ottawa Senator fifty five
to forty five percent. Would you rather

1141
01:19:12,159 --> 01:19:17,720
have Minten or stop Chuck dere Victor
Yeah? I think this is definitely gonna

1142
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:23,640
be Mintened for me. I really
liked what Minten did in his draft season.

1143
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,760
I thought he could take a step
forward, and he did for kem

1144
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:30,720
Loops this year. If he went
from fifty five and sixty seven to sixty

1145
01:19:30,760 --> 01:19:33,560
seven and fifty seven, so a
bit of a bump up there. It

1146
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:38,039
wasn't as big of a step as
you would have liked, but it still

1147
01:19:38,199 --> 01:19:41,920
was pretty decent. A stop Chuck, he's been been that same range for

1148
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:45,079
a couple of years now. And
it's funny because when you were talking,

1149
01:19:45,199 --> 01:19:47,840
when our scout was talking about how
his lack of defense and defensive awareness,

1150
01:19:48,119 --> 01:19:51,960
I feel like that's more his strong
suit than his weakness, and the offense

1151
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,680
is a little bit less. But
I'm not sure that a stop Chuck has

1152
01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:00,840
the big I'm not sure either of
these guys really have the the opportunity to

1153
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:04,079
be or the talent to be a
big time scorer in the NHL. But

1154
01:20:04,359 --> 01:20:09,119
I think that's definitely more Minton's game
than it is a stap Chuck. I

1155
01:20:09,159 --> 01:20:13,279
think a stap Chuck is more likely
to be an NHL or at this point,

1156
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:16,800
but I think neither neither of those
are for sure, So I would

1157
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:20,239
probably take the gamble on Minton.
I think he's has a little bit more

1158
01:20:20,399 --> 01:20:25,560
upside, though it's definitely muted.
From his draft season. He went from

1159
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:28,960
twenty one percent down to nine percent
chance of being a star, and so

1160
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:31,560
he's trended down. Both of these
guys have trended down in general, so

1161
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:38,159
I would take Minton. It is
probably pretty close, and partially because neither

1162
01:20:38,199 --> 01:20:42,359
are super interesting. Zaka Stapchuck.
In terms of his other comps, he

1163
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:45,079
looks a lot like a Wayne Simmons
type, and I think that's probably reasonable.

1164
01:20:45,199 --> 01:20:50,000
Both bigger guys have some physicality,
but not necessarily the biggest score,

1165
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:55,520
so that's maybe a little bit more
what's to be expected. Looking at his

1166
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:59,279
JA fresh card, Zacha Stapchuk has
just a one percent chance of being a

1167
01:20:59,319 --> 01:21:02,920
star fifteen percent chance of being an
NHL or so really low, and yeah,

1168
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:06,159
I think that's probably reasonable. He's
not the most exciting guy, although

1169
01:21:06,199 --> 01:21:12,199
I think the Sentators will be happy
with him just playing a BOUTOMN six role,

1170
01:21:12,399 --> 01:21:15,560
a big body down there. It
can be physical, I think can

1171
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:21,079
probably be decently capable defensively, but
I don't see him as being a big

1172
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:26,600
scorer. So in fantasy Zacha Stapchak, I think takes a little bit of

1173
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:33,520
a hit Victor the next player to
keep your eye on. Prospect is forever,

1174
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:38,039
in my mind, going to be
linked to the Peer McGuire era of

1175
01:21:38,239 --> 01:21:41,840
Ottawa Senators drafting. So tell us
who it is and bonus points if you

1176
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:45,319
could do it in a Puerre McGuire
accent. I don't think I can do

1177
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:51,960
that. But Tyler Bouche is to
keep your eye on. Famously infamously,

1178
01:21:53,119 --> 01:21:58,319
notoriously mistakenly taken at tenth overall by
Ottawa in twenty twenty one. You choose

1179
01:21:58,319 --> 01:22:01,319
your adjective there, jumping up to
take the guy. That seems like no

1180
01:22:01,399 --> 01:22:05,000
one else wanted at that spot.
But that was funny. They had their

1181
01:22:05,039 --> 01:22:08,680
guy, they wanted their guy,
they took their guy. Good for you

1182
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:12,800
for calling your shot. He's the
six foot one, two hundred and five

1183
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:15,479
pounds son of Brian Bouche. Maybe
he should have been a goalie six foot

1184
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:19,159
one. I mentioned that already was
in the OHL. This past season was

1185
01:22:19,279 --> 01:22:26,159
to Tyler. Bouche had seventeen points
in twenty one games for the Ottawa sixty

1186
01:22:26,279 --> 01:22:30,399
seven's. Then he went to the
World Junior Championships and represented US. I'm

1187
01:22:30,399 --> 01:22:33,880
not exactly sure where he picked up
an injury, but he was shut down

1188
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:38,079
not long after that with the torn
labram and his shoulder, and then he

1189
01:22:38,159 --> 01:22:41,960
had surgery. So this development path
has been very weird for Tyler Bouche.

1190
01:22:42,119 --> 01:22:45,199
He was drafted out of the USNTDP
didn't have a ton of production, but

1191
01:22:45,359 --> 01:22:49,159
had that physicality and they thought that
this could be like a Brady Kochuck type.

1192
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:54,039
Obviously, no one's Brady Kochuck.
But he went straight from there to

1193
01:22:54,119 --> 01:22:57,439
the NC DOUBLEA and it wasn't really
working out for him, so he transferred

1194
01:22:57,439 --> 01:23:00,279
to the OHL, which didn't quite
work out as well either, and it's

1195
01:23:00,319 --> 01:23:05,520
basically been downhill from there. So
it's been a really difficult path for him.

1196
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:09,439
And the reason he has to keep
your eye on is because yeah,

1197
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:13,359
I'm not really sure where he's going
from here, but there is a little

1198
01:23:13,359 --> 01:23:15,880
bit more to know about him,
and so let's hear from OURFHL scout about

1199
01:23:16,359 --> 01:23:23,640
Tyler Bouche. Our scout Brandon has
this to say about Tyler Bouche. He

1200
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:29,119
has two gears in terms of skating
coast and sprint, though even at top

1201
01:23:29,199 --> 01:23:31,640
speeds and extra gear to pull away, feels like it's not quite there yet.

1202
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,520
He does have a relentless motor,
quick to get up to his top

1203
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:40,800
speed. Stride seems short and choppy
at times, feet look heavy, even

1204
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:45,600
though he's able to keep up and
up tempo cadence. So maybe there's an

1205
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:49,479
inefficiency that could be cleaned up.
Passing and handling the puck control is step

1206
01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:54,279
and executed with blunt force. He
has the ability to deak and try to

1207
01:23:54,399 --> 01:23:59,000
dazzle, but would need near perfect
conditions for this to succeed at higher levels.

1208
01:23:59,319 --> 01:24:03,520
Defaults to protecting the puck instead of
handling it with his potential to engineer

1209
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:10,840
a play. Passing can be overly
fancy at times, but has shown signs

1210
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:15,920
of consistency and growth toward more poise
and movement away from being overcomplex. He

1211
01:24:16,119 --> 01:24:19,039
is will The pass can be selfish
at times, can be geared to getting

1212
01:24:19,079 --> 01:24:23,760
him in a better position to shoot, which is understandable knowing the strength of

1213
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:27,640
a shot. So shooting very heavy
shot. It seems to put everything he

1214
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:30,079
has behind every shot he takes.
The gusts though he puts on his shots,

1215
01:24:30,159 --> 01:24:34,319
forces goaltenders to be set and sound, and challenges them to handle the

1216
01:24:34,359 --> 01:24:39,800
puck properly so as not to give
up the juicy rebounds off those shots.

1217
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:44,039
The one timer violent, and he
focuses on getting it off his stick quickly.

1218
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:48,680
Blucher has two points of anticipation,
the first being of binary activation.

1219
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:54,239
Once his team gains offensive control of
the puck second is targeting opponents to hit

1220
01:24:54,399 --> 01:24:58,640
on the four check. Seems like
he gets frazzled and overly puck focused when

1221
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:02,279
pressured in space is taken away from
him for checking. One of the strengths

1222
01:25:02,399 --> 01:25:08,000
is his aggressive, linear and physical
for check, he will rack up hits.

1223
01:25:08,119 --> 01:25:12,520
Statistically, he and his team could
stand to benefit from puck retrieval and

1224
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:17,159
play generation off this aggression defense.
He does indeed enter the D zone,

1225
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:23,479
yet an imposed will in effect remain
to be seen besides coasting atop of the

1226
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:29,239
circles and waiting to be sprung on
an outlet breakout pass. Best asset,

1227
01:25:29,399 --> 01:25:33,600
relentless motor in punishing, physical play. Biggest concern instincts intelligence, full ice

1228
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:40,840
service awareness. Under the top tier
outcome the right conditions, we can see

1229
01:25:40,840 --> 01:25:44,760
Boucher play a role in the top
six with a ceiling of forty points and

1230
01:25:44,920 --> 01:25:48,359
plenty of hits. This would be
predicated on being set up with gifted skill

1231
01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:54,920
players and he would have a Patrick
Maroon type role and the fiftieth percent of

1232
01:25:55,079 --> 01:26:00,119
outcome extra forward bottom six grind and
energy line role guy who if he happens

1233
01:26:00,119 --> 01:26:04,119
to get to the NHL at the
current balance of deployment. We think he's

1234
01:26:04,239 --> 01:26:10,600
maybe more of a potential AHL Euro
journeyman with the odd cup of coffee in

1235
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:15,920
the NHL, and Brandon says the
stylistic comparable many Tom Wilson with less fluid

1236
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:19,880
mechanics technical skill, cross with the
hockey IQ and panic meter of Nil Yakapov

1237
01:26:20,079 --> 01:26:27,600
oh Ouch, NHL ranking data and
poll, We're gonna put Tyler Bouche against

1238
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:31,439
Nathan Gasche. That's fun. Let's
just do those types of names and the

1239
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:36,359
differences. Bouche was drafted twenty twenty
one, number ten, Gosher was drafted

1240
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:44,239
twenty twenty two, number twenty two, and the NHL ranking pole is heavily

1241
01:26:44,399 --> 01:26:48,640
in favor of Nathan Gasche for the
Anaheim Ducks. Is that how you would

1242
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:56,079
see a victor? Yeah? I
think so. The thing about Bouche is

1243
01:26:56,159 --> 01:27:00,640
that, as I mentioned earlier,
his development has been so severely disrupted that

1244
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:04,840
it is possible that he ends up
being a pretty decent player. It's just

1245
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:08,640
going to take him a while.
I don't think. I didn't think and

1246
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:12,680
I don't think he was worth taking
that early. But he's a big guy

1247
01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:16,239
that can take longer in terms of
being able to get up to the right

1248
01:27:16,359 --> 01:27:20,119
speed and figuring out how to play
at these different levels, which has been

1249
01:27:20,199 --> 01:27:24,640
something that's been a challenge for him. And now even after not dominating in

1250
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:29,279
the OHL, he's going to be
asked to move up to the HL and

1251
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:31,359
that's going to be a big step
for him. So he's someone who seems

1252
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:34,079
instead of being the head, he's
going to be perpetually behind. So the

1253
01:27:34,199 --> 01:27:39,880
deck seems to be stacked against him, which is never something that you want.

1254
01:27:40,199 --> 01:27:44,560
And Gootia, on the other hand, while his numbers weren't amazing,

1255
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:47,319
he had forty six points in forty
four games for the Quebec Remparts. He

1256
01:27:47,399 --> 01:27:54,640
also represented Canada U twenties and one
gold and but he was pretty fantastic for

1257
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:58,760
a really good team and they won
the QMJHL, they won this Memorial Cup.

1258
01:27:59,119 --> 01:28:02,159
He was the best to defensive forward. There also has some physicality to

1259
01:28:02,359 --> 01:28:06,520
him. So I think this is
a nice comparison because if you wanted that

1260
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:11,119
type of player, I would definitely
take Gachet. And if you look at

1261
01:28:11,319 --> 01:28:15,159
the Anaheim system, they don't have
a lot of guys like this. They

1262
01:28:15,239 --> 01:28:18,520
have some smaller forwards. They have
a Mason McTavish, sure in terms of

1263
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:23,960
Terry and Zegris and even some of
their defensemen on some of the biggest and

1264
01:28:24,319 --> 01:28:27,680
most physical so I think he can
fit a really nice role on the Ducks

1265
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:30,239
moving forward. So I like Gachet
for that. I'm not sure that he's

1266
01:28:30,279 --> 01:28:33,079
going to be a big score necessarily. I don't think either of these guys

1267
01:28:33,119 --> 01:28:39,399
are. But he's someone who get
gets, someone who could maybe put up

1268
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:43,439
fifty ish points with a lot of
really strong periffs, and that could be

1269
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:45,560
pretty valuable. But I'm not sure
that he's going to do too much more

1270
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:49,640
than that. In terms of Tyler
Bouche, both these guys have trended down

1271
01:28:49,960 --> 01:28:55,199
since their draft. Here from their
star potential potent percent, Bouchet is just

1272
01:28:55,279 --> 01:28:58,239
down to one percent chance of being
a star twenty four percent chance of being

1273
01:28:58,279 --> 01:29:00,800
in an each other. Gachet went
from twelve to five, so a bit

1274
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:04,760
lower. And if you look at
some other comps for Bouche, they're literally

1275
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:12,439
almost no players who became stars other
than Miko Koivu, who basically broke this

1276
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:17,159
model from looking absolutely terrible to becoming
a star. So that is going to

1277
01:29:17,199 --> 01:29:21,239
be very unlikely for Tyler Bousche.
Most of his just look like bus and

1278
01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:27,119
or replacement players, so that's probably
more realistic in terms of what we're looking

1279
01:29:27,199 --> 01:29:30,680
for for Bouche. The top down
Hockey model has him at just two percent

1280
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,760
chance of being a star five percent
chance of being an nhlor. It doesn't

1281
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:36,000
look good. It doesn't look good, but I do think, as I

1282
01:29:36,079 --> 01:29:40,000
said, there are there. If
you're trying to think about what to do

1283
01:29:40,119 --> 01:29:43,720
with him, it could be a
biload for Bouche because the centers are probably

1284
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:45,680
going to give him opportunity. He
was a high pick, he's had some

1285
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:50,119
disrupted development. Things could still work
out for the guy, and I don't

1286
01:29:50,159 --> 01:29:55,520
think it's all completely lost. So
yeah, he's someone that maybe you take

1287
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:58,560
a speculaive ad if you have space, But for the most part, I'd

1288
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,199
probably not be too interesting in him
and Jesse. There are more guys we

1289
01:30:01,279 --> 01:30:03,680
could talk about, but we don't
have time here. If you're a patron,

1290
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:06,560
you can listen to my top ten
recap per team, where I'll talk

1291
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:10,640
about some other guys I have on
this team, And if you're inteating some

1292
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,920
scouting with us, you can shoot
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1293
01:30:14,079 --> 01:30:18,960
you can email us. Very good
that's gonna do for this section. We'll

1294
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:29,680
come right back and close out the
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1295
01:30:29,760 --> 01:30:31,319
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1331
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