WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.400 --> 00:00:16.280 Joe Escalante live from Hollywood. By Hollywood, you mean Burbank across the street 2 00:00:16.320 --> 00:00:21.039 from a Wiener Schnitzel that serves beer. And this is two hours of the 3 00:00:21.079 --> 00:00:26.359 business end of show business that we do every Sunday on five from five to 4 00:00:26.440 --> 00:00:34.159 seven on KiB on your AM dial at eleven fifty Sam producer slash engineer. 5 00:00:35.079 --> 00:00:38.079 Can you hear me loud and clear? How are you doing that right? 6 00:00:38.280 --> 00:00:42.119 If I'm doing good, I'm doing good. Busy busy week. Didn't get 7 00:00:42.159 --> 00:00:45.840 to see a lot of movies. I got to see a grand total of 8 00:00:45.920 --> 00:00:50.119 zero. Did you see any? Unfortunately no. I was hoping to actually 9 00:00:50.200 --> 00:00:53.439 catch Renfield, but there was an issue with the payments, so we ended 10 00:00:53.520 --> 00:00:57.320 up not doing that. But we're going to see that this week. Renfield 11 00:00:58.039 --> 00:01:02.200 one of the best films of the year and one of the best performances by 12 00:01:02.240 --> 00:01:07.239 any actor with Nicholas Cage and as a vampire. This is the universal vampire. 13 00:01:07.799 --> 00:01:15.239 You know, this is this is Count Dracula. Um so, uh, 14 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:19.120 you gotta see it. Great performance. I mean it's good, it's 15 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:21.000 as better, it's as good as anything that's been done. It's good. 16 00:01:21.079 --> 00:01:25.200 It's it's as good as anything that was nominated last year. Uh, it's 17 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:30.040 just it's just like dynamic and hilarious and spooky and you know, tortured. 18 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:34.959 That's a great actor. We're lucky to have that guy around. Absolutely. 19 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:38.680 Uh. If you if you don't know enough about Nick Cage watched was it 20 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:42.519 The Unbearable Weight of Immense Talent or whatever it is? Yeah? Ooh, 21 00:01:42.519 --> 00:01:47.200 good lord, one of the funniest movies I've seen. Yeah, another great 22 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:52.640 movie. Yeah. So uh yeah, so that movie. I think I 23 00:01:52.680 --> 00:01:56.400 know a little bit about Dracula because my grandfather, I don't know if you 24 00:01:56.439 --> 00:02:01.319 know this was Bella Legosi, insurance agent. Really, yeah, he was 25 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:09.080 Bela lago See insurance agent. You've got a very very deep Hollywood family. 26 00:02:10.560 --> 00:02:21.199 He was also the insurance agent of Salmonio and Ah, I forgot some of 27 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:24.840 their a few other people. Anyway, he was connected in the insurance game 28 00:02:24.840 --> 00:02:32.759 in Hollywood. Yes, Thomas O'Reilly insurance agent to the stars Inglewood, California. 29 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:39.879 Come on by, Ah, good old Thomas Um no longer with us, 30 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:45.639 as is my mother no longer with us, Um, So happy Mother's 31 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:51.639 Day to her. I'm here celebrating with my Suegraa, my mother in law 32 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:58.159 because she's you know, you marry young. You got a young brie mother 33 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:05.199 in law. So h happy birth Aftere Mother's Day to Gloria. How about 34 00:03:05.240 --> 00:03:07.159 you. You have any mothers floating around? Yeah? My mom still around. 35 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:10.520 Happy Mother's Day. I wish we could have had chance to hang out, 36 00:03:10.560 --> 00:03:15.120 but my son was sick, so we ended up not going. But 37 00:03:15.479 --> 00:03:17.719 also sad. And it was my best friend's mother passed away this morning, 38 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:23.319 so it's a it's kind of a rough one. Yeah, that's kind of 39 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:25.319 rough for him right now, so we're all going to roll it around him. 40 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:29.639 Oh yeah, all right, Prayers to your friend's mother. What was 41 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:32.400 her name? I don't know her name. I know my friend's name, 42 00:03:32.479 --> 00:03:36.199 Lamar. You got to know her name so we can pray for her. 43 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:39.080 Yeah, we can't just pray for random people. Way, I will find 44 00:03:39.080 --> 00:03:43.120 out the name so I can send you the text message so we can cassion 45 00:03:43.240 --> 00:03:46.759 on that prayer. I will do that. And you've got to get your 46 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:50.520 head in the game, Sam. Okay, the box office this week, 47 00:03:50.719 --> 00:03:53.639 Um, you know what, box office is pretty strong. Still. We 48 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:59.159 got Guardians of the Galaxy still at number one, dropping off. I'm not 49 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:02.199 sure if they anytime you drop off less than fifty percent, it's like not 50 00:04:02.280 --> 00:04:06.520 a disaster. But what are you hearing on the street in your nerd world 51 00:04:06.560 --> 00:04:11.240 about Guardians of the Galaxy? Yes, no, what mixed reviews. Some 52 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:15.879 people are saying it's the best thing since Endgame. Some people are saying it's 53 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:20.079 just another you know, like post end Game movie that's just you know, 54 00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:24.120 gonna go out there and everybody's gonna watch it. But it's not going to 55 00:04:24.199 --> 00:04:28.439 be anything as good as what we were spoiled with earlier. Okay, all 56 00:04:28.519 --> 00:04:30.399 right, what's a good good take on it? Super Mario Brothers, you 57 00:04:30.399 --> 00:04:34.480 saw it, probably absolutely the Super Mario Brothers. I saw it only dropped 58 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:39.199 off thirty percent last weekend. So this has legs five hundred and thirty five 59 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:43.920 million dollars at the box office in the US already. The next one is 60 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:47.920 these man these old ladies with the book Club, the Jane Fondas and I 61 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:49.639 don't even know if she's in that, but you know all those old ladies 62 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:53.560 that are in these movies these days, like eighty for Brady. Yeah, 63 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:58.040 I think we've got another hit in her hands here with I mean, I 64 00:04:58.079 --> 00:05:00.319 don't know how much they have to pay these people to make all these menopause 65 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:04.920 jokes. But six million, six and a half million at the box office 66 00:05:06.639 --> 00:05:11.120 could be worse. Um, And I think we've got to be grateful that 67 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:15.720 they make movies like this. You know they didn't they These kind of mid 68 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:20.959 budget fun movies. Um. You know are are few and far between between 69 00:05:21.040 --> 00:05:28.120 because we have so many superhero movies and so many horror movies like The Evil 70 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:30.920 Dead Rise. I believe that's a horror movie. I don't know a lot 71 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:38.279 about it. From Warner Brothers did sixty million so far. Now number five 72 00:05:38.360 --> 00:05:41.839 is the movie I did see, Are you there God, It's me Margaret. 73 00:05:43.800 --> 00:05:45.519 I know I lied, I said, I said it didn't see any 74 00:05:45.519 --> 00:05:46.759 movie, but I did see are you there, God, It's me Margaret. 75 00:05:47.920 --> 00:05:51.920 I gave it four stars, four out of five stars on my letterbox 76 00:05:53.319 --> 00:06:00.160 account. If you don't have letterboxed, I suggest you get it. It's 77 00:06:00.199 --> 00:06:04.000 where you It's like social Uh, it's like you know, it's like face, 78 00:06:04.160 --> 00:06:11.240 it's like a Friendster for movies. Um. Yeah, So lions Gate 79 00:06:11.240 --> 00:06:14.720 puts out are you there, God, It's Me Margaret, a Judy Bloom 80 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:17.600 book that came out of fifty seven hundred years ago, and why hasn't it 81 00:06:17.639 --> 00:06:21.639 been a movies thus far? Wow, Judy Bloom must be difficult, that's 82 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:28.199 all I could say. Um, But they made it finally and it's a 83 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:32.319 hit, A great movie, great movie. I want to go back to 84 00:06:32.399 --> 00:06:36.360 something you were just talking about, the idea of like it's good to see 85 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:40.879 certain movies, like you know, the the movies with the old ladies in 86 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:45.639 it, those those kind of movies being made and getting you know, theatrical 87 00:06:45.680 --> 00:06:47.399 releases and making money. And I want to kind of go back to that 88 00:06:47.399 --> 00:06:51.560 because it's a It's an interesting point because after the pandemic, the only movies 89 00:06:51.560 --> 00:06:56.600 that we were really seeing coming out in theaters were gonna be the major blockbusters 90 00:06:56.600 --> 00:06:59.279 and everybody was gonna you know, there was the big Yeah, those couldn't 91 00:06:59.279 --> 00:07:01.079 be stopped. Yeah, And like you know, I remember a couple of 92 00:07:01.160 --> 00:07:04.839 the Marvel movies that came out made a lot of money and Rotten you know, 93 00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:09.920 that was more or less what was available at the time, aside from 94 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:12.720 a couple of other movies that you could tell, you know, the production 95 00:07:12.839 --> 00:07:15.720 value were was, you know, during the pandemic, so it didn't quite 96 00:07:15.800 --> 00:07:21.000 hit the right way. And now we're seeing the movies that we the kind 97 00:07:21.000 --> 00:07:27.199 of movies that we would see pre pandemic now being released here again. So 98 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:30.920 that, yeah, there's something really good about even though I may never see 99 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:33.959 any one of those movies, I'm really happy to see them in the theaters. 100 00:07:34.439 --> 00:07:40.959 And the studios are seemed very committed to these to these kinds of movies, 101 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:45.839 and they're there. You know. Even Warner Brothers, I mean Warner 102 00:07:45.839 --> 00:07:48.720 Brothers said, we're putting our movies. We're putting our films in the theaters. 103 00:07:50.279 --> 00:07:54.399 Amazon's putting movies in the theaters. Apples putting movies in the theaters. 104 00:07:54.920 --> 00:07:58.040 Uh. Netflix not so much, but they better, you know, get 105 00:07:58.079 --> 00:08:03.360 with it. And so this is all good except for a few if it 106 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:07.639 goes back to you know, where there's hard to buy tickets like it used 107 00:08:07.639 --> 00:08:09.120 to be, where you would you know, you had to get your tickets 108 00:08:09.160 --> 00:08:13.079 three days in advance. That's going to irritate me. But I will I 109 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:18.879 will take it if more movies are made to go into the theaters, and 110 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:24.839 then I'll just leave it there. As far as the the top movies of 111 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:33.039 the weekend movies, We're looking forward to The Little Mermaid, Fast X and 112 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:35.600 Transformers, movie coming up this summer, right, and Spider Man Across the 113 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:41.080 Spider Verse from from Sony, and of course Barbie, Yeah, coming up 114 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:45.320 on July. I think it's a first week in July, first weekend in 115 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:48.759 July, and Oppenheimer Christopher Nolan's film comes out the same day as Barbie. 116 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:54.240 Oppenheimer always has that first week in July when he wants to release movies and 117 00:08:54.360 --> 00:08:58.080 Barbie's going up against them. We'll see how that goes, and will take 118 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:01.600 a break right now out and we'll check the traffic and we'll come back with 119 00:09:03.039 --> 00:09:09.159 Joe'scalante Live from Hollywood, Joscalante Live from Hollywood, by Hollywood and meet Burbank. 120 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:15.519 We're talking about movies, and something's going to interrupt movies, but maybe 121 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:18.559 more so television. I mean, we can talk all we want, sam 122 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:22.000 about our favorite movies that are going to get made and TV shows, but 123 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:24.879 if they have a writer strike, everything is going to be different. And 124 00:09:24.879 --> 00:09:28.120 they do have a writer strike, because the writers want on strike like you 125 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:31.639 know Monday I think it was, and so they're gone. They had to, 126 00:09:31.639 --> 00:09:35.320 you know, stop work. Yeah, I know a lot of people 127 00:09:35.360 --> 00:09:39.879 on the crews who impact and they're all eager to get back to work because 128 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:45.000 they want some money. Writers at A lot of the writers tend to have 129 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:48.840 more money in the bank, and allow of the people and the crew tend 130 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:52.039 to go more paycheck to paycheck sometimes. So yeah, they've been kind of 131 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:56.480 sweating it out. Well, what I heard is the Writer's go which I 132 00:09:56.480 --> 00:10:00.320 don't belong to, even though I'm a television writer, so can be done. 133 00:10:00.879 --> 00:10:07.759 I don't um they have about four months of worth of money to help 134 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:15.360 people that have quit paying jobs to join the picket lines. Yeah, and 135 00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:18.120 I don't think like if you don't have a paying job, I'm sure there's 136 00:10:18.159 --> 00:10:20.200 some relief you can get, because maybe you were going to get one. 137 00:10:20.919 --> 00:10:24.120 But as we know, these things like if you need a hand out and 138 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:30.600 people are handing things out, you know, you can state your case and 139 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:33.200 get some help. But in general, I think it's like if you're working 140 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:37.360 and all of a sudden, bam, you get nailed by the strike, 141 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:41.279 you go to the you you got to go sign up and pick it and 142 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:43.360 then you can get some relief. I got a letter from the Screen Actors 143 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:48.440 Guilt that I belonged to for some weird reason, and they said, you 144 00:10:48.480 --> 00:10:50.600 know, for us to go out there and join them in the picket line 145 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:54.639 and we would get a T shirt for as long as supplies last. That 146 00:10:54.720 --> 00:11:00.639 wasn't enough for me, Sam, I want to guarantee T shirt guaranteed. 147 00:11:01.559 --> 00:11:09.320 Okay, Um, so four months? Yeah, okay, So um the 148 00:11:09.440 --> 00:11:13.600 strike, as we know, Um, they want more money. We'll talk 149 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:18.039 a little bit about the strike. Why are they striking? Their royalties? 150 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:24.039 Their residuals are down, like they're down by a certain you know, percentage 151 00:11:24.120 --> 00:11:28.080 of what they used to be. So they're you know, looking around going 152 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:33.720 why are the why why are the royalties residuals? They would call them, 153 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:39.600 Why are the residuals down so much in um that we're getting well, maybe 154 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:48.440 because the rates are too low, Maybe because there's more enforcement or more reasons 155 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:52.720 for things to generate royalties, because there's some things that just you know don't 156 00:11:52.720 --> 00:11:56.360 generate them. Um. So they, I mean, this happens, uh 157 00:11:56.600 --> 00:12:00.399 every so often. They when it's it's when it's time to renegotiate, they 158 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:03.360 come up with things. Uh. Uh. You know, they will say 159 00:12:03.399 --> 00:12:09.120 that the streamers, A lot of us blamed on the streamers. Record profits 160 00:12:09.120 --> 00:12:11.919 from these streamers. They will say, I mean depending on how you look 161 00:12:11.960 --> 00:12:22.639 at it, and that if they don't, well I lost my train of 162 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:28.679 thought there, because this is so fricking boring. Get in the room and 163 00:12:28.720 --> 00:12:35.360 write a show, all right, serious jeez. Uh So the streamers, 164 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:37.559 you know, they think they're making a lot of money. Maybe they are, 165 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:39.559 maybe there aren't. Maybe they're losing billions, and they're saying, you 166 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:41.600 know what, you know what our problem is. When I owned a record 167 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:48.720 label, and there was always articles in the uh Internet and papers like royalties 168 00:12:50.360 --> 00:12:54.679 are too low and music and this is kind of how I look at it 169 00:12:54.759 --> 00:12:58.679 sometimes because I was on the side of the management in the music business. 170 00:12:58.039 --> 00:13:03.639 I got a record label, and I gotta tell you, after Napster and 171 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:07.960 all that stuff and CD burning, the problem with the music industry wasn't me 172 00:13:07.120 --> 00:13:13.919 not paying enough royalties. That was not the problem. But people were, 173 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:18.440 you know, always writing articles about how cheated the musicians were. And I'm 174 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:22.639 a musician that I've put out like, you know, fifteen sixteen, seventeen 175 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:28.440 albums. You know, I know what it's like. But they're getting cheated. 176 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:35.919 And but yet the music business is going under because there's not enough money 177 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:41.000 because record sales go down and promotion costs go up. That's the one thing 178 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:45.480 that people don't understand. To promote these things, especially now with a crowded 179 00:13:45.559 --> 00:13:50.759 field, it is staggering the cost In the record business I used to have. 180 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:52.720 I used to have one thing that happened. There was a magazine called 181 00:13:52.759 --> 00:13:58.120 Alternative Press, and it would put punk bands like Yellow Card and Newfound Glory 182 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:03.120 on the cover. And then my bands, the Atari's and uh Tsunami Bomb 183 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:07.759 are useless, id Audio Karate, these kind of smaller bands, Hey, 184 00:14:07.759 --> 00:14:09.559 how come we can't get on the cover of AP? And I would say, 185 00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:13.759 well, because you have to give AP forty thousand dollars um to buy 186 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:20.120 an ad and then another forty thousand dollars to pay some guy to to paste 187 00:14:20.200 --> 00:14:26.480 the posters of the magazine all over Hollywood or wherever. So that's eighty thousand 188 00:14:26.480 --> 00:14:28.879 dollars gold. Then why has Yellow Card on on the on the cover of 189 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:35.200 the magazine because they're on a major label. The next question was, well, 190 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:39.559 how do we get on a major label? See? You know yeah, 191 00:14:39.679 --> 00:14:46.159 um so uh, you know, the studios and the streamers are like, 192 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:48.360 you know, there's this is all everything's costing us a fortune. And 193 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:54.279 now you want more money. Um, they've offered one, you know, 194 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:58.519 increase and the other guys want it increases, like a couple hundred million more. 195 00:14:58.519 --> 00:15:03.559 They're there, are there, They're one hundred million dollars at least apart 196 00:15:05.159 --> 00:15:09.960 um pros and cons. It's hard to find an article about the good arguments 197 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:13.240 the studios are making. When I say studios, you were talking you know, 198 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:18.279 Amazon, Netflix, uh, Sony, Universal, Warner Brothers. They 199 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:26.240 have an organization and they're of producers and they negotiate with the guilds. Now, 200 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:28.320 if you're in the guild, you can only write for these people in 201 00:15:28.360 --> 00:15:31.480 the association or people that are registered with the w GA. Like the Screen 202 00:15:31.480 --> 00:15:33.360 Actors Guild too has the same thing. If you want to hire a Screen 203 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:37.240 Actors Guild member, you have to register with the Screen Actors Guild and then 204 00:15:37.279 --> 00:15:43.559 you're part of the negotiating when these when these contracts come up. So the 205 00:15:43.559 --> 00:15:46.720 the actors, okay, so the pros and cons, the pros, we 206 00:15:46.799 --> 00:15:52.000 know, that's easy to find. It's hard to find arguments against the act 207 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:56.399 the writers. The pros are more money. Of course, people should get 208 00:15:56.399 --> 00:16:00.799 more money. And if they're not getting if they're getting less money, and 209 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:03.679 it's harder to live, and the other and the and the studios aren't, 210 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:08.679 you know, bankrupt, then let's we we've got to negotiate, and we 211 00:16:08.759 --> 00:16:14.000 got to get more money to the writers. Streaming transparency, this is one 212 00:16:14.039 --> 00:16:19.159 of the things they're asking for. And um, they want to know what 213 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:25.039 the streaming numbers are. Um, that one. I don't. I don't. 214 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:26.840 I don't think it will help them. I really don't know. I 215 00:16:26.879 --> 00:16:30.080 think that's fighting for something. That's maybe the studios could just give them that 216 00:16:30.519 --> 00:16:34.360 as a give the streamers and tell them how many people are watching each show. 217 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:40.840 But um, you know, streamers are new. They they don't have 218 00:16:40.960 --> 00:16:42.919 Nielsen ratings and stuff like that. They don't tell people who watches their stuff, 219 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:45.840 and they have reasons for doing that. They don't. Nobody knows how 220 00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:52.240 many people subscribe to Apple TV their thing, did you know that? Sam? 221 00:16:52.559 --> 00:16:56.159 Really nobody nobody knows. Um. Netflix is a publicly traded company, 222 00:16:56.200 --> 00:17:00.840 so more stuff has to come out, but they still don't share everything, 223 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:04.799 can you. So I don't think they you know, I don't think they'll 224 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:08.599 help them. So I think they're if they're fighting for that, if that's 225 00:17:08.599 --> 00:17:15.000 really that important to them, studios give it to them cares. Now we 226 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:21.880 get into things called like guaranteed staffing. The writers are pissed because they, 227 00:17:22.839 --> 00:17:25.599 you know, there's a lot of writer rooms that are sixteen people, sixteen 228 00:17:25.599 --> 00:17:27.799 people writing one show. You'd hand a couple of scripts to people and then 229 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:30.559 they go out home and they you know, they start writing it and you 230 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:33.440 go back to the writer's room. I realize you're almost out of time. 231 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:37.240 But so we'll pause this a little bit. But a lot of it is 232 00:17:37.240 --> 00:17:41.880 about what goes onto this writer's room and how big this writer's room should be. 233 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:45.640 Should there be a law or a guild requirement that a writer's room should 234 00:17:45.640 --> 00:17:52.359 have a minimum number of writers for each show. That's a question, and 235 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:56.160 that's one of the things they're fighting about. So when we come back, 236 00:17:56.759 --> 00:18:00.640 we'll talk about whether that's a good idea or a totally stupid idea. Joe's 237 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:07.799 Galante Live from Hollywood, Joe Live from Hollywood. If by Hollywood I mean 238 00:18:07.839 --> 00:18:12.359 Burbank two hours of the business end of show Business every week on Sunday nights, 239 00:18:12.480 --> 00:18:17.319 KiB eleven fifty on your AM dial. Sam. We were talking about 240 00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:22.319 the writers Guild strike. Um, we're talking about mini rooms. So one 241 00:18:22.319 --> 00:18:26.519 of the gripes, Oh, I should call them not gripes. That sounds 242 00:18:26.559 --> 00:18:37.039 mean right, They're not gripes. These are demands for relief. So a 243 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:45.960 mini room, what is a mini room? The mini room is a I 244 00:18:45.000 --> 00:18:48.839 got offered to write for a mini room. These are these are offensive to 245 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:52.039 the WGA. Someone called me up and they said, hey, this is 246 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:55.000 what we do. We're gonna put you in like six other writers are gonna 247 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:56.640 put you in a room for two weeks. You're gonna hash out the storylines 248 00:18:57.440 --> 00:19:04.039 for a ten episode series about whatever it was, and then then you guys 249 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:07.960 are gone. So you're only gonna get paid for two weeks or three weeks 250 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:10.960 or four weeks or I forgot whatever it was, maybe it was six weeks. 251 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:15.200 Then you're gone. Then who writes the series? Sam? Other writers? 252 00:19:17.160 --> 00:19:22.720 Yeah, maybe one, one guy two. At the most in a 253 00:19:22.640 --> 00:19:26.519 sum writer's rooms have sixteen people in him. In this case, you would, 254 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:30.119 like, you know what, sixteen people would be nice, But that's 255 00:19:30.160 --> 00:19:33.240 a lot of people to pay, you know over a you know, ten 256 00:19:33.319 --> 00:19:38.200 episode thing of forty weeks or something that's that's an enormous amount of money. 257 00:19:38.240 --> 00:19:42.359 So if you came into this situation and you're trying to reduce costs. Like 258 00:19:42.559 --> 00:19:52.920 Bob Iger at Disney or someone else said somewhere else, you would say, 259 00:19:53.039 --> 00:19:57.079 what's this? Why are we paying all these people? Sixteen people? It's 260 00:19:57.119 --> 00:20:00.480 a little bit shocking, though I'm doing that. Shocked you a little bit, 261 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:03.519 Sam, It is a little shocking. But if they have the money 262 00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:07.559 then and they have the if all of those writers are creative enough to be 263 00:20:07.799 --> 00:20:11.400 in the room, then all good. But I could see where companies would 264 00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:15.519 be like, that's a little excessive. What if we do this? I 265 00:20:15.640 --> 00:20:18.680 got an idea, someone said, one day, let's put them all, 266 00:20:21.599 --> 00:20:27.759 Let's put only Let's take eight of those people and let's pay them for a 267 00:20:27.960 --> 00:20:36.559 month, and they're going to hash out twelve episodes and the stories little outlines 268 00:20:36.759 --> 00:20:40.519 like a niggation outline, and then when they're done, we'll get rid of 269 00:20:40.599 --> 00:20:48.319 them, and then we'll bring in who created the show, Bill, Okay, 270 00:20:48.359 --> 00:20:51.640 then Bill can write them. Why can't Bill write them all? In 271 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:57.000 many series, one person writes everything. Some places have sixteen writers. Some 272 00:20:57.160 --> 00:21:00.480 places have ten writers that don't do anything, while one person does it. 273 00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:04.720 All that goes on a lot like they've got this writer's room. I'm pretty 274 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:07.319 sure the writers goes, Oh my god, these goes are clowns, and 275 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:11.799 it just writes them all. I think David Kelly's like them could be wrong. 276 00:21:14.920 --> 00:21:18.880 So these things when someone who used to get paid for like forty weeks 277 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:22.880 is now getting paid for four weeks, and that's outrageous. So he goes 278 00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:26.640 to his guild and he says, how can this be? I can't work, 279 00:21:26.759 --> 00:21:37.000 I can't pay my expensive boat payments or what do they? I mean, 280 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:38.440 they're payment they're private schools. You live in LA and you're a writer, 281 00:21:38.519 --> 00:21:41.200 you have to send your kid to a private school. You can't go 282 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:47.920 to those public schools. They are terrible. So that's what a mini writer's 283 00:21:47.920 --> 00:21:51.160 a mini room does and they're offended by it. And I got offered one 284 00:21:51.200 --> 00:21:52.200 and I was like, you know, to me, it made sense. 285 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:56.160 I just like that, it makes sense. But I mean, I have 286 00:21:56.200 --> 00:21:59.559 a lot of different streams of income. Some people are just like got one, 287 00:21:59.799 --> 00:22:03.319 and when it gets cut off, it's terrible. So they're fighting for 288 00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:08.119 that. That's it's all really basically money. If you paid me more money 289 00:22:08.160 --> 00:22:14.240 to be in a mini miniroom than in a regular room, and I'd be 290 00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:19.400 fine. So the question is this, should should there be a law, 291 00:22:19.599 --> 00:22:25.000 a rule, or a guilting that requires a minimum amount of staff on each 292 00:22:25.240 --> 00:22:29.920 television show, like a bare minimum sam? Should there be I honestly don't 293 00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:33.799 know. That's the kind of stuff that the unions and the studios are going 294 00:22:33.880 --> 00:22:37.119 to have to hash out that is completely out of my pay grade. Yeah, 295 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:40.640 I mean there's certain things are like I think they got to hash out, 296 00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:42.640 like their royalties are down like twenty three percent, or the residuals are 297 00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:47.359 in general the WGA, So how can we get them back up, you 298 00:22:47.440 --> 00:22:48.759 know, to twenty three you know, how can we make up for this 299 00:22:48.880 --> 00:22:53.680 lost income? I think that's a reasonable question to ask. But when you 300 00:22:53.759 --> 00:23:00.279 start putting minimums on on hiring staff or a writer's room, if you think 301 00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:06.599 about it, the other side of it is, and this is that they 302 00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:11.359 could hurt writers is less shows get picked up because now they're looking around and 303 00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:15.480 saying, look, every show has to have a minimum of ten writers paid 304 00:23:15.720 --> 00:23:18.400 for, you know, the entire duration of the show. So now we 305 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:22.240 can only pick up this many shows. And you would say, well, 306 00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:27.799 it's gonna employ more writers. So because there's gonna be a minimum. But 307 00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:33.319 then some of them are are shows that there are only one guy writes, 308 00:23:33.799 --> 00:23:36.680 like I just did. I did my first show. I was gonna have 309 00:23:36.720 --> 00:23:40.519 a writer's room. My first show on Fox called Monsters Across America. I'm 310 00:23:40.559 --> 00:23:45.839 putting together a writer's room, and then the pandemic happens and everybody's you know, 311 00:23:45.880 --> 00:23:48.799 I got more time on my hands, so I write all six episodes 312 00:23:48.839 --> 00:23:52.519 of the first order. I wrote them all myself. Now, if I 313 00:23:52.599 --> 00:23:57.680 had a minimum requirement, I would have to pay people for doing what I 314 00:23:57.720 --> 00:24:00.519 could have done by myself, and what I definitely would have done better because 315 00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:03.920 it's my show. I created it, so it would have been a worse 316 00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:11.599 show. I would have made less money, and then arguably it wouldn't have 317 00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:14.039 gone to second season. I got a second season because I wrote all the 318 00:24:14.039 --> 00:24:15.960 episodes and they were great. I got a second season. Very hard to 319 00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:18.920 get a second season. I got one. Now, if we've done the 320 00:24:19.000 --> 00:24:22.519 other way and all and I have a minimum requirement, we have a we 321 00:24:22.640 --> 00:24:26.559 have a worse season because everything is worse that there's six people doing it. 322 00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:30.319 Then if there's you know, one, it's not just one. Because I 323 00:24:30.400 --> 00:24:33.880 have people at the network that you know, check me and collaborate and stuff. 324 00:24:34.440 --> 00:24:40.000 Chances are it's going to be worse, um, and it's gonna cost 325 00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:41.960 a lot of money and I'm gonna make less money. So already I don't 326 00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:48.119 like it. So that's the that is the idea. But I'm I'm in 327 00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:51.039 this position. There's a lot of hals and have nots things going on here 328 00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:52.200 too, because there's people like me on my show. I'm the show runner. 329 00:24:52.319 --> 00:24:56.079 I'm gonna make money no matter what. I can't get fired. And 330 00:24:56.200 --> 00:24:59.319 then there's a couple of riders that could have had jobs and they didn't get 331 00:24:59.359 --> 00:25:03.440 them, and I did it all myself. Maybe that's unfair. But if 332 00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:07.960 you the argument is, if you make that a demand of a guaranteed minimum 333 00:25:08.000 --> 00:25:15.720 staffing, that's that's a little bit weird. Does more writers equal better writing? 334 00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:21.559 Not necessarily, And I could see the problem that springs up is that 335 00:25:22.079 --> 00:25:25.720 people who are fans of scripted shows and want the writers to be taken care 336 00:25:25.759 --> 00:25:30.440 of. This is kind of a strange demand just because, like you said, 337 00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:33.880 it will make it so that studios are going to be less likely to 338 00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:37.240 pick those shows up and we're going to be stuck with more reality programming. 339 00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:41.759 Which which for you is outstanding. Yeah, I don't look at it. 340 00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:44.000 I make reality programming, but I don't look at it. It's like, 341 00:25:44.039 --> 00:25:48.799 oh my gosh, there's gonna be a This is good for me because number 342 00:25:48.839 --> 00:25:51.759 and I'm a fan of television a Number two, when this kind of stuff 343 00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:53.599 happens, what these guys do, the famous ones, like the big names 344 00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:56.759 and scripted TV. They start making reality shows and then they're competing with me. 345 00:25:56.880 --> 00:26:03.200 And now I'm competing with David Kelly or a very um or Shonda Rhymes 346 00:26:03.279 --> 00:26:06.119 or something in the reality space, which I don't need that. So I 347 00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:07.920 want them to, you know, resolve that. I want there to be 348 00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:15.440 a good mix. But um, it's just like there's so many things in 349 00:26:15.559 --> 00:26:21.079 TV. Number one thing that comes to mind is the quotas and the woke 350 00:26:21.119 --> 00:26:27.880 agenda that have a tendency to make programming worse, albeit perhaps more fair and 351 00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:33.039 inclusive and better for humanity in this one sense, But they already tend to 352 00:26:33.119 --> 00:26:40.319 make of shows worse by making these quotas and things. So if you add 353 00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:41.880 another thing on, and by the way, we have to have a minimum 354 00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:48.960 ten writers in every show, I don't know, it's it's not going to 355 00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:53.160 make for better TV necessarily, so they have to. Um, So the 356 00:26:53.240 --> 00:26:57.119 writers, I think that's not a good one. I think I think just 357 00:26:57.400 --> 00:27:02.880 more money, try to get more shows made. And if a show needs 358 00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:04.880 more writers, you know, they're going to get hired, and if it 359 00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:07.000 doesn't need them, they're not going to get hired. So I don't know 360 00:27:07.000 --> 00:27:12.200 if you can control people like that. Um. The last one we'll talk 361 00:27:12.200 --> 00:27:18.559 about is AI. They're they're saying no AI, artificial intelligence, and you 362 00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:22.799 can't. You know, that has to be you know, you got to 363 00:27:22.839 --> 00:27:25.200 forbid that. That's a problem one too. Do we have time to talk 364 00:27:25.200 --> 00:27:26.000 about that one? Or should we do that in next singment? Let's do 365 00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:30.400 that next segment. And I want to I'm going to ask if it has 366 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:34.359 to do with specifically the writing process or if actors and their voices or likenesses 367 00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:40.359 and AI are included in that. But that's a that's a writer's guild versus 368 00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:42.440 Screen Actors Guild. So yeah, yeah, we'll get into that, Okay, 369 00:27:42.599 --> 00:27:45.680 Yeah, And they do have stuff about that in the Screen Actors Guild 370 00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:52.200 Agreement sag after agreement rather Joe Scalant Live from Hollywood, Let's check the traffic. 371 00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:19.079 Joe's gone, here's my lawyer. You don't want money. It does 372 00:28:19.119 --> 00:28:26.920 it all for you and he knows all its joy. Oh, yes, 373 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:34.920 he knows what it's all about. Joe, Joe's Coolante live from Hollywood. 374 00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:38.279 If by Hollywood you mean Burbank. Okay, all right, we're still talking 375 00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:42.160 about show business until we do every week here from five to seven. I'm 376 00:28:42.160 --> 00:28:49.880 talking about the w g ah there, um uh. I'm the side of 377 00:28:51.000 --> 00:29:03.440 our part and they we're talking about the the AI demands that they don't want 378 00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:15.400 AI artificial intelligence to be a part of the writing process. And of course, 379 00:29:15.480 --> 00:29:17.920 I mean it's like if you're a union, I mean you're sitting there, 380 00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:19.960 you've been this is as old as time, Sam. It's like to 381 00:29:21.240 --> 00:29:26.119 not use automation to replace a workers. We need to preserve jobs. And 382 00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:30.920 the whole point of a union is to get more work for more people, 383 00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:37.319 more members, more work from members. Actually it's some would say it's to 384 00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:41.400 get less work for the members, more money, more money, less work. 385 00:29:41.519 --> 00:29:45.000 That's basically how a union works. But you don't want AI. AI 386 00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:51.440 is free, arguably, and can AI write a script? I say, 387 00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:56.640 not yet, but soon you can write a lot of things. So this 388 00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:03.000 one too is rough because when you start making laws against some technology, it's 389 00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:07.319 like making a law against Napster and all these disruptive technologies that have come along 390 00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:17.079 for a long time. It's hard to to do that because it's almost like 391 00:30:17.160 --> 00:30:22.000 you have to make peace with the new technology. Part of me thinks AI 392 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:25.119 is just like public domain. If you punch something, if you write something 393 00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:30.559 in to tell an AI program, a chatbot or whatever to write you something 394 00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:33.079 or do something for you. Whatever you whatever you typed in is your creation. 395 00:30:33.720 --> 00:30:38.319 Whatever comes out as public domain. It's that's one way I think of 396 00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:41.480 it. So it comes out as public domain. Can you use public domain 397 00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:45.559 because anybody can use that? You can't, Well, you can't really copyright 398 00:30:45.599 --> 00:30:52.720 it because this this robot made it. Right, Yeah, So you can 399 00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:56.880 copyright the the what you typed in to get it that was a creative something 400 00:30:56.920 --> 00:31:00.920 that was created. If it's minimally creative, that would be you can't. 401 00:31:02.200 --> 00:31:06.920 You couldn't say, write book and then copyright that because right, book is 402 00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:10.720 not minimally creative. But to copyright something it has to have a certain minimal 403 00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:15.880 standard of creativity involved in it. So you type in something like um write 404 00:31:15.160 --> 00:31:22.680 a story about a parasitic twin that is able to take all the classes in 405 00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:27.599 the person's minor and then so that the host body could be have a major, 406 00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:30.880 and the parasitic twin would would take all the classes of the minor, 407 00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:37.000 and hilarity ensues. Let's say you've typed that in. Now what I just 408 00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:40.200 typed in is creative if I don't say so myself, even though I just 409 00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:47.480 thought of it. That is protected copyrightable. But what comes out of the 410 00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:52.400 thing is made by a robot, and arguably you can't copyright that it was 411 00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:53.519 made by It wasn't made by me, it was made by robot. So 412 00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:56.839 then what is it? Well, let's call it public domain. Can you 413 00:31:57.000 --> 00:32:00.839 make a TV show using a lot of public domain? Yes? I do 414 00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:04.759 that all the time. Was some of my reality shows are like, this 415 00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:07.039 is public domain. I write stuff and then I take stuff from the public 416 00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:12.000 domain that's not protected. But should the guild say, don't take stuff from 417 00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:22.079 public domain? Don't do that, Joe, don't take some speeches by army 418 00:32:22.160 --> 00:32:24.759 people about aliens and put them in your show. You need to hire a 419 00:32:24.880 --> 00:32:30.079 writer to write those army speeches. Really, you know, I mean it 420 00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:35.759 just gets weird. So I don't know if you can do anything about AIM 421 00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:40.720 other than make peace with it, but they can try. And but right 422 00:32:40.759 --> 00:32:45.160 now the AI is not that good you I mean, But what Here's what 423 00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:49.160 they would do. If I was the AI guy, I would say, 424 00:32:49.200 --> 00:32:52.279 instead of the miniso the mini room, let's get instead of eight writers in 425 00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:58.079 the miniroom, one writer and chat GBT to just keep plugging in stuff into 426 00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:00.279 AI and come up with these scenarios. And then he's going to come up 427 00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:05.920 with twelve outlines a lot faster than eight people would have because he has this 428 00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:12.319 chatpot. Now should he they not be using those tools. It's a tough 429 00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:15.200 question, right Sam, Yeah, absolutely, And I'll go back to the 430 00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:20.839 question I had, what about with the likenesses and the voices of actors and 431 00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:24.559 stuff like that, because I've seen some funny parody stuff on YouTube on stuff 432 00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:30.160 like that with different celebrity voices and things like that. But I know I 433 00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:36.279 heard something to the effect of Bruce Willis was willing to use his likeness ever 434 00:33:36.400 --> 00:33:42.000 since he had got that aphasia diagnosis. He was willing to use his likeness 435 00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:51.759 and his voice to do future work well. The Guild screen Actors Guild alway 436 00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:55.799 already has a lot of protections against using artificial versions of people's voices and likenesses, 437 00:33:57.400 --> 00:33:59.920 and I think that was part of their last strike. But what if 438 00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:02.480 they have it as like a person says, I am willing to sign off 439 00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:07.559 my likeness for this based off of the whims of my estate. Oh my 440 00:34:07.719 --> 00:34:10.400 estate. Yeah, I don't see anything wrong with that. People have a 441 00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:15.519 right to enter into agreements. The guild that the person might belong to might 442 00:34:15.559 --> 00:34:19.239 say, well, we don't allow our members to do that, So if 443 00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:24.719 you if you honor that contract, then um, we will boycott your studio 444 00:34:25.719 --> 00:34:30.039 because we don't want this happening willy nilly. But if they're gonna pay. 445 00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:32.920 If they did that and they paid royalties to the guild, the guild might 446 00:34:32.960 --> 00:34:36.239 say, hey, that guy's if that guy's dead, he's still a member 447 00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:38.280 of our guild. So we're gonna we're gonna that money's gonna go to the 448 00:34:38.400 --> 00:34:43.119 estate. We're still gonna mat we're gonna have it go in their account. 449 00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:46.039 And then so fine, go ahead, as long as the guild gets their 450 00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:52.559 piece of it. That could be as long as everybody gets their money, 451 00:34:52.679 --> 00:34:58.360 right, Yeah, that's for sure. That's fascinating. The what's going to 452 00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:01.239 be happening with like the new laws that need to come in place to protect 453 00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:09.719 writers and actors in different aspects of the filmmaking industry from artificial intelligence. Yeah, 454 00:35:10.280 --> 00:35:13.360 and uh, I don't know. I don't know if you can fight 455 00:35:13.480 --> 00:35:17.039 that. So, um, I don't know if it's a some people say 456 00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:21.519 that I've had I've heard some people say that's number one. That's the only 457 00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:28.679 thing I wouldn't give in on this AI. No, AIM, I don't 458 00:35:28.719 --> 00:35:34.519 agree with that. I think AI doesn't isn't that good yet, but it 459 00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:38.800 will be good. And I mean, I just don't know what you can 460 00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:42.519 do. Yeah, you will. Actually, here's what you can do. 461 00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:46.000 We don't work with studios that use AI on their scripts, and so they 462 00:35:46.039 --> 00:35:51.920 can boycott and then the actor's boycott and the director's boycott, and then then 463 00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:52.920 the studio has to come to the table and say, Okay, we won't 464 00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:57.320 use any of it. So that's what they're basically trying to do. I'm 465 00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:00.320 just imagining at the end of shows on the credits, that's going to be 466 00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:02.880 a little tagline at the end that said this script was written by one hundred 467 00:36:02.920 --> 00:36:07.840 percent men or women or human Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly all humans 468 00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:10.320 made this and no, no animals were harmed, No animals were harmed, 469 00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:16.440 and no AI was used. Yeah. Now, but people have to come 470 00:36:16.480 --> 00:36:20.199 to grips with these things. I mean, look what look what happened to 471 00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:24.960 Kodak when they ignore digital technology. I mean, you got to you got 472 00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:34.039 to kind of make peace with this thing. And but if if the robots 473 00:36:34.079 --> 00:36:40.679 write better scripts, how long do we support these writers just by um sheer 474 00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:47.079 union strength? These guys have to work when if we can get if we 475 00:36:47.239 --> 00:36:51.440 in the future, if we can get much better scripts and TV shows and 476 00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:55.039 films from machines, then what do we do Do we sit through terrible movies 477 00:36:55.480 --> 00:37:00.760 when robots write them better? You know, I don't really see that happening, 478 00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:06.960 um, but it could What if it does? So then there's there's 479 00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:15.599 a scale like at what point do you do you does that? Do we 480 00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:17.039 worry about it? At what point do we worry abote? So? And 481 00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:20.559 then you you'll be able to, I'm sure, get to the point where 482 00:37:20.559 --> 00:37:22.639 it's like, this is a great movie, but you like, you know, 483 00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:27.320 you could tell that it's AI written and it doesn't have that you know, 484 00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:30.920 like that feeling of that you listen to when you listen to Vinyl, 485 00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:34.559 the warmth of the music. You won't feel the warmth of the of the 486 00:37:34.639 --> 00:37:37.599 writing. I don't know. There are terrible movies, like you know, 487 00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:42.840 Lindsay Lohan's The The Love Bug that that had like thirty five script writers, 488 00:37:43.000 --> 00:37:45.519 so the studios said, another rewrite, another rewrite, another rewrite. Pretty 489 00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:50.559 soon it's unrecognizable. Thirty five people took notes from thirty five executives and the 490 00:37:50.679 --> 00:37:57.800 movie's terrible. All written by people, So a lot of things can ruin 491 00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:00.800 a script. Yeah, all right, do we have anything else? How 492 00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:04.400 much time do we have because we might have beat this today. We're a 493 00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:07.880 little over right now, but we're over the show. We're done, We're 494 00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:10.800 done for this hour. Okay, all right, well this is uh you 495 00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:14.760 know what? Do you listen to the podcast later if you want to, 496 00:38:14.920 --> 00:38:20.280 um, if you missed to anything. And this is Joe Scalante live from 497 00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:25.119 Hollywood, signing off for right now. But there's always more, leaving it 498 00:38:25.159 --> 00:38:30.960 with just a taste of the greatest song ever written, Happy Mother's Day.