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by Adam Austin, William luck Dyke. We're gonna talk to the last five

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games, the good stuff from the
starters and everything. Hellas, how are

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we doing? Let's just thanksgivings over. The Clippers are playing well? Uh?

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Adam, how's the vibe in the
building been. You've been in downtown

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LA the last couple of nights.
It was pretty hyped last night the Clippers

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defense showing up like that and holding
Dallas to eighty eight points, and also

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Russell Westbrook, who is a fan
favorite, playing that well coming off the

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bench. It was a good time
last night at Crypto dot com arena.

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Myself, Carlo Jimenez on the call. It was a fun game. It's

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good time. Will and I.
We were there for the Friday night game,

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which was a raucous time. Despite
the loss, I've loved the support.

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It's been nice to see the support
bounce back after the six game losing

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streak. Not that it's easy to
support your team as rocus as it has

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been Downtown, LA, but just
good to see it feels like the Clippers

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are kind of feeding off it.
You mentioned Russ that was his best game

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of the year by quite a bit, right, just in terms of what

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he needs to do well, certainly
coming off the bench, his best game

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since they put James Harden in Terrence
Man in the backcourt, because Russ really

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let the game come to him.
He just he didn't force anything. He

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wasn't hunting shots. Early on Friday
night, he was one for eight,

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so to bounce back like that,
and I think he only took one shot

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outside the restricted area, which was
the far side corner three, and he

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nearly had two shots heading into the
fourth quarter, yet had made such a

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big impact. It was almost like
he was playing that Terrence Man type of

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game where he's doing all the little
things to help you win and impact the

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game while not worrying so much about
his shot. Now, Terrence actually did

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have his best game of the season
by far, but Russ I like that

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from him. I think that's exactly
the template for how he needs to play

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coming off the bench. Don't worry
about getting your shot. Get the others

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involved. Make the game easier for
Paul George. You're paired with him a

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lot on the court. He got
Norm Powell's first three pointer, who was

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perfect from the field and had an
unbelievable game. But I love the way

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the defense that Russ played, how
hard he played late and then the points

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came. Twelve of his fourteen points
came in that fourth quarter where he kind

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of helped pour it on late keep
Dallas at bay when they made a little

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bit of a run. And then
he was yelling at Luka Donchez or saying

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let's go right at him, Let's
go at him. That was great,

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which is smart. Same thing has
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That's the game plan. We'll talk
more about it later, but go at

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these guys, these unstoppable forces on
offense. The best way to wear them

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down is to make them have to
defend on the other end. Well,

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what if you liked from the starters
in these last we'll get back to Russ,

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but as he is a bench player, no disrespect to any of his

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stands. That just literally is what
he is right now, Well, what

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if you like from the new starting
five these last five games. Defensively,

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Paul George and Cool I look a
lot more locked in. So I think

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setting that tone is absolutely huge.
We're seeing Paul George like the field goal

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attempt numbers are up where we want
them to be, which so I love

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the aggressiveness there. And then I
like the look with Terrence Mann obviously,

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and then I like, I think
this is what we all advocated for coming

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into the season, is you know, regardless of who starts in that spot,

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you have a lot of versatility.
I think if Terrence is in that

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five man starting lineup, Yes,
Terrence has been It's funny because right now,

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so was it a zoo on the
bounce back? Sorry, Oh that's

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a good adam, you look.
No, completely, he's been much better

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going back to the second half of
the fourth quarter of that game against the

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Houston Rockets. Sometimes you know,
you think it's a one off, just

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him playing really well in one quarter
after starting the season off slow, but

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it's had a carryover effect. If
eats a Zoobots has kind of found his

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stride over the last five games with
this new starting lineup, He's looked more

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explosive out there, but particularly Dallas
without their true big man out there.

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He dominated fourteen boards in twenty minutes
or whatever it was from Visa Zoobots and

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four or five offensive rebounds. He
was a force and that's how we needed

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to play. He looks like he's
playing to his strengths now and playing much

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bigger out there. Remember a couple
of seasons ago when Paul George said we

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need Zoo to play like he's the
biggest guy out there. He's starting to

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do that again this season after a
slow start. Well, and I praised

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Kawhi and Paul George for like for
then kickstarting the defense, but really Zoo

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is the anchor there and kind of
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starting lineup. And I feel like
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defensively, how they end up in
the standings is for better or where it's

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going to be tied to those performances
from movies and Zoobots. Yeah, I

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think was it Russo, Justin Russo
who was tweeting out the uh, you

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know, the percentage at the rim
by defender so far the season, Zoo's

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like top three, top five or
something like that. So and it's not

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three or three, potentially four.
But you another thing about the defense,

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the defensive rating in the last five
games. These stats mostly stats from Justin

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Russo eighty nine and a half for
the Clippers starting five the last five games

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in eighty nine and a half defense
of rating, they're plus fifty and seventy

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six minutes over the last five games, which includes going minus twelve against the

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Pels on Friday. And they've been
twelve and a half points better per one

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hundred possessions with Terrence Man on the
floor as opposed to off. And so

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we have all these good things happening. But the other funny part is Terrence

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Man is shooting thirteen percent from three, and Kawhi Leonard some people are worried

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about him, and things are still
looking this good. Adam, I know

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you were in the trenches about the
people kind of saying that Kawhi Leonard is

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Maybe I am citing Russell constantly.
Justin Russo puts out great stats and lineup

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data. Look, look, I
love Russo, but I'm seeing a different

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offensive rating and defensive rating right now
on NBA dot Com for the starting five

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for the starting five over the last
five games different, Yes, over Well,

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you know what, maybe that's the
difference. I'm going off of the

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last six games. That's the difference. Okay, So in that case,

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because some of these guys have played
together, because James Harden is going back

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ten games now, but he's just
going basically since the new starting five has

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been okay, that's very five.
Yeah. Uh so, you know I

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never questioned Justin Russo, like I
always say, so we can throw this,

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we can throw this for seat away
at him or are we are we

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saving this fun Well, you never
know when it could come in here there,

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This is funny. My godfather is
like an old school like grinding musician

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guy, and my entire childhood.
Anytime I go to his house, he

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just had boxes of receipts. That's
Adam with Twitter beefs. When they say

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lifetime free fund. You got to
hold him to that, right. Well,

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yeah, let's talk to Kawhi.
I think because it was obviously no

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one's gonna pretend like last game was
especially good offensively, but the four games

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before that he's been great. Well, I think sometimes look, it's worth

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monitoring because the numbers are slightly down, and it looks like he's not trying

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to force anything with this new starting
lineup, or just go out there and

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put up twenty five shots like we
saw Paul George put up thirty against the

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Pelicans Friday night. Kawhi hasn't been
doing that. The most shots he has

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taken so far next to James Harden
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he's kind of letting the game come
to him. But then I think it

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comes down to eye test, and
the problem is when plays it at Kawhi

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pace, as you guys always like
to put it, he plays at a

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slower, more methodical pace, picks
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When he's missing shots, it looks
worse because of that pace. Now

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it's the same pace when he's making
shots like that, and you don't worry

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about it when he's sticking them.
But when he goes two for twelve,

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there's some alarm bells. And it
was the second game he has done that.

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He did it against Orlando earlier in
the season. I would be more

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concerned if you didn't have the game
against the Los Angeles Lakers where he had

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thirty eight all of their points and
overtime. Was magnificent that eighteen point opening

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quarter in the first quarter and look
like an absolute superstar since then. You

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can say it's an adjustment period,
transitional phase. He's trying to figure out

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where he fits in and how he
can help this team. And I do

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believe the reason they're sixth defensively with
this on the season now, but especially

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with Terrence Man in the starting lineup, they have been the best defense so

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far. I think a lot of
it is Kawhi putting more effort in on

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that end and making sure to come
through for coach lou on them being a

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top five defense this season. I
think that has been his focus. So

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you could say he's being unset fish
to a fault, I guess a little

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bit. You want it to be
more aggressive, But Kawhi he's gonna be

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a team player. He's gonna do
whatever is needed out there, and I

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don't mind that right now. If
there was a playoff series, I think

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the only way to judge whether Kawhi
Leonard has lost a step is in a

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playoff series, because so many times
in the regular season we see him go

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through these roles or we see him
not look as engaged. But then the

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playoffs come around and Kawhi raises his
play until then, and if he can't

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raise his play, which you know
that's never happened before, I'm always gonna

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give him the benefit of the doubt. Yeah, I think benefit of the

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doubt is very Qui is the only
one who's earned it as well. He's

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the only guy who I'm fully comfortable
being like, Okay, sure, whatever,

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he's gonna figure out. This out
attempts is just not enough to judge

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a Kawhi performance. It's sorry,
it's just not it. It's just not

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enough. Do we think the other
part of this too, that it's like

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it's coinciding with is Paul George is
playing some of his best basketball that he's

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played as a Clipper. He's averaging
twenty five six and four with two steals,

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sixty one percent true shooting percentage.
So when you have a guy plays

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like he's getting back to like those
twenty twenty one numbers, Yeah, La

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Clippers Film brought this up on Twitter. He's shooting seventy eight percent at the

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rim this season while taking the highest
percentage of his shots at the rim since

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twenty twenty twenty twenty one. So
that's great him getting to the rim.

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We always want him to shoot more
threes. When he's shooting that well in

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the rim, it it really helps
just the team as a whole. So

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I think Paul George being on this
heater, not saying that it's like bad

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for Kawhi's game, but when a
guy's doing that, he can focus more

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on defense and stuff like that.
And I don't even know if i'd call

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it a heater. This is ever
right. This is a guy that's just

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relentless with attacking the basket at a
level that I know he did it back

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in the twenty twenty one season for
the Clippers, but it has been shocking

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how much he's attacking the basket right
now. Paul George, he looks incredible.

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Still not getting many calls, but
the way he's weaving around defenders,

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he looks as athletic as ever,
and he is, without a doubt,

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their best players so far to start
off this season. And I do want

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to add this, Kawhi is shooting
the exact same two point percentage right now

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at fifty point six percent from two
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season, his first season as a
Clipper, Like, so, maybe people

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got a little bit He's getting into
the line as well, Kawhi. Yeah,

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I maybe people got a little bit
spoiled by the three months and then

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the two games in the playoffs against
Phoenix last season, and we're in those

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three months he was putting up fifty
three forty seven, ninety splits, shooting

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splits, that stuff. Maybe he'll
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But he started off solow last sears. He's had a pattern of doing

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this throughout his career where he's kind
of on his own time, knows his

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body. Lebron does it to a
lot of different guys that have been in

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this league that have been superstars for
a long time. They know when it's

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time to ratchet things up, and
I think that's what Kawhi is doing.

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But back to what you were saying
about Paul George spectacular start to this season,

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not just playing like a top ten
player, considering his defense too,

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he's been playing like a damn near
top five player in the league. Yeah,

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he's leading the league in steels.
I'm pretty sure are pretty damn close

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to it. He was a couple
of games ago defensively, Paul George talked

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about kind of the fact that the
Clippers just switch everything. They switched every

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single thing. It forces teams to
play more isolation, and not every team

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can do that, is what he
said. He said this after they beat

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the Mavericks, a team I think
we can all agree definitely has two guys

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who can create an isolation. So
it's great to see the defense stepping up

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like that. And as you mentioned, in terms of small sample sized theater

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Clippers have the best defense November seventeenth, which is when Terrence joined the starting

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lineup. So everything's kind of clicking
while we're still seeing kind of a passive

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James Harden and Kawhi Leonard because we
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little bit, and James Harden said
too, he's still getting used to it.

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But for the most part, I
mean he's fourteen five and six.

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The defense, if you've actually watched, it's consistently there's effort there and stuff

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like that. So with Kawhi and
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now, it feels like, I
don't know, we're we're ramping up in

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a really nice way. I wouldn't
expect it. I would have expected those

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two guys to be the most passive
in this whole thing. But it's good

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to see it's still producing results,
especially with these last five games. I

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still feel like, look, if
Paul George, you know, if he's

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not in attack mode as much,
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it can go right back to Kawhi
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where James Harden gets to fifteen.
He has been intent on just trying to

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fit in right now, and there's
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maybe very soon. They need more
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Harden I do think needs to put
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him offensively to take more shots,
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and that's what makes him so much
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he's taking the shot or if he's
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could we start responding to some of
these people here on live we are Live

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YouTube dot Com Slash at Clippers Podcast, Adam, which one do you want

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to talk about before we get into
more James Harden and where the hell the

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Clippers can find some wins on the
schedule. I think B West is just

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trolling, but uh, I could
still respond to it if you want kids

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kids seems well, it just popped
up here. I don't know, kids

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like Adam don't know what real scoring
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get on the block for fifty young
It's like him. Never saw Will putting

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defenders in the basket. Oh yeah, there wasn't a video for some of

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that stuff. But they also had
about thirty five more possessions per game to

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stat pad and come up with these
crazy stat lines where Will could average fifty

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first season. It's kind of a
dirty little secret of sixties basketball. They

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were playing at such a breakneck pace. There were so many more stats to

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accumulate, which is why you'll never
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he was playing all forty eight minutes
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more possessions per ball game. They
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there was no three point line.
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meant you were getting a better look, which also led to a lot more

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blocks back then. It's just it's
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So if you want to live in
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enjoyed, it's a chump. According
to Adam Oslin, I want to go

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that far. Adam's like, all
I've seen is a photo of him hold

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a piece of paper of one hundred
points. I don't believe he really did

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it. He was great. He
probably gets like twenty five and twelve in

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today's game. Five. That's an
insult. No, I'm just laughing.

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It's just funny to hear someone about
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don't think that makes a difference in
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you at all, but you just
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twelve. This is a hard pivot. Have you guys watched the clips I

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think it's called like the Wilt Chamberlain
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have, like of him doing random
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I've seen some of it. Yeah, it's just impressive. The man is

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an absolutely freak. He was,
and there were eight teams in the league

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back then, and it was a
completely different game and the pool in the

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NBA is quite larger now, just
over the last twenty five years, Guys

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like Jokic, Embiid, Giannis uh
Luca, they might not have even grown

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up playing basketball if it wasn't for
Michael Jordan and how international the game became

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because of the marketing system with the
NBA in the nineties, with mj and

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everything like that was inspirational. It
changed everything. Now we have all these

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guys, like what four of the
top five players you can argue in the

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league are international players. Yeah,
I think so. Well, Paul George

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playing like a top five player at
the moment. If Adam had a time

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machine, he would go back in
time and just well, actually the one

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hundred point Will game. He would
just be standing outside with charts and say,

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I'm from b West now, says
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was in second grade when I was
watching Bill Lamber in the finals. You

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mean when they called ass foul on
him on Kareem abdul Jabbar in Game six

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after Isaiah had twenty four a fourth
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You mean the finals like that?
How old are you, Adam? Old

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enough to remember? Okay, f
both of you guys, not the glasses.

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I'm the only one here. Yeah, cheap shot. I was born

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this way. I was born this
way. All right. Let's uh,

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the last the last five games from
the Clippers have been great. They're still

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seven and eight. We're still kind
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We're not gonna be in the eleventh
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game, you already know how I
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how it's going to be difficult to
find some wins. Where's some easier places

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the Clippers can find some wins.
It's not in the next week and a

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half, I don't think. But
where how are we feeling loading up against

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lesser teams and getting some cream puffs
and inflating your record that way isn't gonna

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do. It isn't gonna be enough
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to win these games against the highest
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the league. So these next four
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home situation, I was hoping they
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It's asking a lot to go four
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was my hope, and that's really
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to overcome that six game losing streak, because that was unexpected to have,

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especially during that time in the schedule
when they lost games to a bad Memphis

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team and a bad Brooklyn Nets team. Not a bad team, but they

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both teams were missing half their squad. Those were really bad losses by the

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Clippers that they have to make up
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to go ahead. I get on
this every year or too when the Clippers,

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when we're Charles and I are toiling
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are just baffled by how the Clippers
still sometimes somehow have like a top three

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scheduled difficulty with you know, two
weeks of the season and left. I

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do think if this team is taking
things seriously, I do think these wins

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over teams that I'm not going as
far as they're called cream puffs, but

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I do see them as tune up
wins. I see them as sort of

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lower stake situations where you can build
the right habits and then taking on a

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slate of hard games. It's you
know, it's like the old saying iron

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sharpens iron, man, Like it's
you know, it's not ideal with the

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rest and everything in between on these
games, but they're gonna have to play

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these teams if they're in the playoffs, they're gonna have to play them multiple

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times in short rotation. It just
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I don't think for me personally,
like I would love if the record was

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better. I would love if we
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we hadn't stacked up so many losses. But I think I think it's more

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understandable and given what we thought the
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to even what they are right now, which I think is trending in the

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right direction, but it's still not
even the apex of what it could probably

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be. Yes, that's a good
call. We do get thankfully. Yeah,

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man, this is the post.
I'm just looking at the schedule right

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now. I forgot how brutal this
post Thanksgiving schedule is. And that's before

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we get to March, folks.
That's that's just in this year. Yeah,

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list it off, all right.
We have Nuggets tomorrow at the Kings

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at the Warriors. That is a
back to back and then we play the

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Warriors again in LA, then the
Blazers, which is great, then the

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Kings, then the Warriors. What
is with this schedule with the Kings?

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What's with it? It's your pack
div Chuck, Isn't this what you want?

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Oh? It's so great, awesome. We're in the toughest division in

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the NBA. No, I just
mean it's crazy. They're all sandwiched together

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like this, like Warriors, Kings
and like a I don't know, it's

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like four times in like a week
and a half. Then we got Nicks

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at Pacers, at MAVs at Thunder, so like nothing, I guess,

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completely tortuous. But these next five
games like they're not fun at all.

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Who cares? Though? What about
marsh Hey, we can get into March.

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Let's talk about it. I kid
you not. Can I tell you

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about Thanksgiving with these guys for a
second? We gotta lie. We gotta

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start reading more of these messages too. There's some good stuff here. But

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I walk in, I'm hanging out
with Chuck. There's a charcuterie plate that

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I'm doing damage on. Just salami? Uh? What else was out there?

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Pepperoni? Pshootou de Niro, Uh, Pacino. It was a lot

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of different Italian meats out there,
and uh, Chuck is like sitting there

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in deep thought contemplating March. He's
just like, man, they gotta go

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ten and seven in March. They
gotta go in March. And I'm like,

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what, who's worried about Arch?
Right now? Look at the next

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five games, Chuck, what are
you talking about? Yeah? I think

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Adam went they really got to go
two and three, and I was like,

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yeah, yeah, yeah, they
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I said, yeah, great,
they need to go ten and seven

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in March. It's real, it's
real. We do. So here's the

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nice thing about March. We do
play the Blazers twice in a row in

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March, which is great, but
we play all Eastern Conference teams for the

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most part in March. It's really
weird. But we play some bad teams

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March. First against the Wizards.
That could be fun, but they're seventeen

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games. There's there's really it doesn't
matter who you're playing. If you're playing

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seventeen games in March, it's not
ideal. It's rough. Forget take it

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one game at a time. Let's
go all the way to March, guys,

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let's get back right into the teeth
of the schedule. It's a good

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and it's like towards the end of
the it's brutal. But hey, ten

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and seven and we're looking pretty clean. David Hellman, don't even put that

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energy out there. What's up,
David Helman? But yeah, ten and

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seven in March, I'm feeling pretty
good and a healthy month. I'm feeling

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pretty good. Okay, what about
these next four games before there's somewhat of

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a reprieve against the Portland Trailblazers.
What about these next four games? They're

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one on one right now in this
six game gauntlet. They got Denver coming

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up. We can talk about more
in depth on the matchups and stuff going

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on in that game a little bit, But just how do you guys feel

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where the Clippers were at coming off? That was their best victory of the

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season by far. Holding the Dallas
Mavericks to eighty eight points was insane.

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Guys. Did you watch the game
against Los Angeles Lakers with them or even

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though they tried to give it away
late. I mean that team Luca Doncis

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was enough of a problem having Kyrie
Irving as well, and the Clippers.

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What I like most about it was
they looked motivated by the fact that they

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let that game go. They got
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the night before, and they were
upset about it and they wanted to get

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that victory back. That said something
about the mindset of this team. Yes,

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some would even say something was born. Well, if they take down

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the Nuggets tomorrow night, I may
go there. They seven straight to them,

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Nuggets tomorrow night, we're getting them
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I don't know how I feel about
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I think we can go so over
this. I just want I want

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to see a split. This is
a really tough schedule. I'd love to

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go three and one, but I'd
love to see a split. I think

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it's there's still kind of some kinks
being figured out, but I'd be happy

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with two and two over these four. Not saying that's what we need,

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but I'd be happy with it.
Will Would you be furious? No,

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No, not furious at all.
I think that that makes sense. I

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think if you split, if you
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to if you split Nuggets Kings.
However, whichever way it goes. I'd

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love to see a couple of back
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feel like we're in similar places right
now and our size matches up really well

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with them, and then it give
me win against the Trailblazers, get a

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little bit of momentum going, even
if it's just a three game streak,

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and you can't keep up with the
Kings when you play them mid month next

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month. But yeah, I think
that a split is totally doable. I

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think that a split is totally doable. I'm not I can't I can't go

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I don't think I can go to
and I don't have the confidence right now

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to go too and zero versus Nuggets
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that at Kings to me is just
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we have if we have the tempo, if we're put together enough to get

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that win first side of a back
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Yeah, be like legs wise.
Oh wait, will will you put

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this Jbo's question up on here?
This is a good one. How long

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do you think Kawai can keep up
playing back to backs? He looked slow

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last night. Adam, your eyebrows
are suggesting you have some thoughts on this

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story of this question, I would
just for anyone that thinks he looks slow,

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watch him defensively. Just watch him
defensively. If he looks slow on

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that end, I would be much
more concerned. But he hasn't. He's

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looked very good. I think it's
taking something out of his legs. He's

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playing power forward much more often,
Juck, do you have any of those

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power forward numbers or position numbers percentage
wise how often Kawhi is playing power forward

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versus last season, because obviously he's
taking that on his plate much more now

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than he has been in the past. And when people say it's a position

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inless league, what they really mean
is it's more positionless than it ever was

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before. That's the accurate statement.
It's still not a positionless league. It's

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not that simple. There are some
positions that are more interchangeable. But going

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from the three to the four,
still, even though you're not going up

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against those traditional bigger power forwards and
Tim Duncan and see Webb and Dirk and

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Jermaine O'Neill from the early two thousands
or anything like that, it's still going

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to take something out of you going
for boards more having to just blow up

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in the post and hold back some
of these guys. I think physically it's

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taking his toll a little bit on
Kawhi Leonard. Yeah, okay. So

406
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according to Basketball Reference, so far
in the twenty three to twenty four season,

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Quiet has played about twenty two percent
of his minutes at power forward,

408
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which is, according once again a
Basketball Reference, the highest of his career.

409
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He's still like a lot. It
is about double yeah, just shy

410
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of double how much. According to
Basketball Reference, this isn't a perfect stat

411
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,960
how much he's played power forward because
again not completely positionless. But you know,

412
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some of this stuff is a little
it's a little up for interpretation.

413
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I would say still playing sixty one
the majority of his minutes at the at

414
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the small forward position, and then
seventeen percent of his minutes actually clocked in

415
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at shooting guard. There, so
a somewhat even split between shooting guard and

416
00:30:25,279 --> 00:30:27,759
power forward, but definitely leaning more
power forward than any other point in his

417
00:30:27,799 --> 00:30:33,200
career. And crazy too, compared
to the last three years he was over

418
00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:37,279
forty six he was over forty five
percent at shooting guard. The last three

419
00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:41,960
seasons and this year he's at seventeen, so it's pretty Uh, it'll be

420
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,400
interesting to monitor, you know,
in a month where you have a bunch

421
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of games like March or something like
that, it'll be interesting to see what

422
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:55,920
percentages he's at. I think it's
sustainable X one Go Project. Thank you

423
00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:00,400
for asking that. I think it's
sustainable. I think it's saw thing that

424
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,160
the team needs, that the the
Clippers need it. They're playing really well

425
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,799
with him at the four, and
I love that sat that we'll just put

426
00:31:07,799 --> 00:31:12,319
out. He's still playing sixty at
small forward. It's not like he's dominating,

427
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:17,200
you know, taking the lion's share
of minutes at the four. What

428
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:25,359
chance do you guys put on him
and Paul George playing the next four games

429
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:29,759
of this tough stretch here with another
back to back coming up Wednesday Thursday up

430
00:31:29,759 --> 00:31:33,440
in NorCal. Do you do you
expect? Because Coach Bleu was asked last

431
00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:38,160
night by Andrew Grafford the La Times
regarding Kawhi Leonard and if he looked tired

432
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,319
to him, and he says,
look, he hasn't said anything. Medical

433
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:48,160
checks in with him once a week
if he needs rest. It sounds something

434
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,319
to the degree. I will give
him that, but he hasn't said that.

435
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,759
He says he feels good, which
is encouraging, But I just he's

436
00:31:56,759 --> 00:32:00,680
not gonna play eighty two games,
while George is not gonna play eighty two

437
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:06,000
games. At some point, these
guys are going to sit. Maybe I

438
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:13,200
wouldn't be surprised if at least one
of them doesn't sit in that well,

439
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,119
the back to back, the back
to back in December, the one the

440
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:22,000
eleventh and the twelfth is at home, but it's also it's also like a

441
00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:25,960
three, it's also a three and
five. I bet maybe one of them

442
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:30,000
sits out the December second game,
Yeah, the one when we come back,

443
00:32:30,119 --> 00:32:34,319
because we play the Warriors in the
Bay on the thirtieth, then we

444
00:32:34,359 --> 00:32:39,640
come back and play the Warriors on
the second. I wouldn't be I'd put

445
00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:45,759
I don't know sixty percent chance they
play all four games. I don't know

446
00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:50,240
if I don't know if both of
them will sit at one any point.

447
00:32:50,319 --> 00:32:53,279
But I also, and I know
this sounds crazy, wouldn't be the worst

448
00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:55,480
thing. I would be kind of
happy for them to maybe get a little

449
00:32:55,519 --> 00:32:59,920
bit of rest. But we will
say all that back to back is a

450
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:04,680
home So I do think that that
helps. I think, uh yeah,

451
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,519
I do see at least one of
the two sitting during a travel back to

452
00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:13,440
back especially, I just think that
makes sense. Even I don't even think

453
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:19,279
it's a thing of like whatever their
motivation is to play like I think we

454
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,640
have the data points now, and
unless you're desperate for a win, which

455
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:27,319
this team kind of is, I
just don't I don't know why you would

456
00:33:27,359 --> 00:33:31,000
have him playing back to backs.
I would every back to back. Yeah,

457
00:33:31,079 --> 00:33:36,240
I would not be shocked if one
of them sat during the Wednesday Thursday

458
00:33:36,279 --> 00:33:39,759
back to back up in Sacramento and
then against Golden State and then they take

459
00:33:39,799 --> 00:33:43,559
on Golden State at home on Saturday. The one thing I thought of,

460
00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:47,119
you know, some of these lower
percentages where Kawhi is only shooting forty five

461
00:33:47,119 --> 00:33:51,480
percent from the field and thirty seven
percent from the outside, and he's pretty

462
00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:55,440
much right on par with where he
was his entire full season his first year

463
00:33:55,480 --> 00:34:00,839
as a Clipper in nineteen twenty.
But the one thing I thought of was,

464
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:05,319
Okay, maybe him playing fifteen straight
games. That hasn't happened in a

465
00:34:05,359 --> 00:34:07,800
long time. He and Paul George
is their longest streak of them both being

466
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:15,239
this available. Was Kyrie irving in
Brooklyn when he couldn't play games in Brooklyn

467
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,440
because he wasn't vaccinated. He was
playing like two games a week, so

468
00:34:19,519 --> 00:34:23,559
he was averaging about three days off
between games, and he was going off

469
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:29,039
and he was having forty point games
every night, and then you get three

470
00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:32,320
days off to rest. So it
does wear on you, the wear and

471
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:37,559
tear the back to backs. Having
a five and seven now that could be

472
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:43,320
eating into his percentages some it does
make sense. Yeah, I like this

473
00:34:43,519 --> 00:34:50,320
talk about man. I it's just
so weird. Like the rest thing,

474
00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:55,400
it's just frustrating. They need less
games. I just I still I'm seeing

475
00:34:55,519 --> 00:35:01,440
Lyft on his three point shooting.
Yeah, and last night the only two

476
00:35:01,519 --> 00:35:06,239
shots he hit. He didn't make
his first shot till I think midway through

477
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,280
the third quarter, and it was
a little baseline fade away. When he

478
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:14,519
came back in in the fourth quarter, he knocked it down again over two

479
00:35:14,559 --> 00:35:17,639
players falling away. He looked great
with it. The elevation was there,

480
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,079
but it's something at least worth monitoring. I just I don't have a major

481
00:35:23,079 --> 00:35:28,000
concern regarding Kawhi Leonard because he's moving
so well defensively, if he just wasn't

482
00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:30,079
moving well or there was a hitch
in his get up and you could really

483
00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:34,639
tell it looked like him in the
twenty nineteen playoffs with the Toronto Raptors,

484
00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:37,400
where he was playing through something.
I'm not seeing that right now. Yeah,

485
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:42,400
that's fair. Ex Wongo Project asked
do you think Bones will make his

486
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,079
way back into the rotation. You
know, we're getting a bunch of bones

487
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:51,280
Bones questions. I don't know,
not as long as Norm is on this

488
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,280
heater. Guys. Yeah, like
it's going really well. It kind of

489
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,400
sucks for Bones. I mean,
doesn't kind of suck for Bones. It

490
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,960
sucks for Bones professionally. But the
team was winning and Norm, like you

491
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:07,639
said, Adam is playing really really, really good basketball. And I don't

492
00:36:07,639 --> 00:36:13,360
think Russ is getting benched. Guys, Norm last night, well you know

493
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:19,079
what I mean for bothes. Yeah, yeah, Norm last night was unreal.

494
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,440
He took four shots and ended up
with fifteen points in twenty five minutes.

495
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,719
He went four or four from the
field, three or three from three,

496
00:36:27,039 --> 00:36:29,880
four or four from the free throw
line. I think he's made something

497
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:35,719
like twenty of his last thirty attempts
from the outside. He I thought he

498
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,920
got off to sol starts. What
happened. Wasn't he the first player either

499
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:45,880
for the Clippers or not in the
It was like he had over fifteen points

500
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,280
off like fewer like off fewer than
five field goal attempts. He was like

501
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,880
one of the first or like fastest
to do it, or some crazy thing

502
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,719
like that. I will say that
Norm is one of those I feel like

503
00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:00,320
one of those weird things to unlocking
some actual pace for the Clippers. He

504
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,559
just has like no hesitation in the
shot. He can play down hell a

505
00:37:02,599 --> 00:37:07,400
little bit. Although he's not passing
anybody. He is one of those guys

506
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,639
that can that can help the Clippers
play at a different tempo, which I

507
00:37:09,679 --> 00:37:13,840
do think is one one thing that
you need. I think especially with second

508
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,199
units, though you need to be
able to run guys off the floor.

509
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:20,239
You need to be able to get
easy buckets and hopefully not give up too

510
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,320
much on the other end, which
we already know the defensive deficiencies that his

511
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:29,320
second unit has. Yes, and
that is also not something that really helps

512
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:32,719
bones case for more playing time.
Is defensive issues. All right, we

513
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,400
should talk about the Nuggets game.
Thank you for that stat Scott BOSSI what

514
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:45,039
a great last name to have.
He's at over forty eight from three on

515
00:37:45,079 --> 00:37:49,480
the season, and he's probably taking
real attempts too, because sometimes there's guys

516
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,920
at the top of the list who
are, you know, number one and

517
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,639
three point percentage, but they take
like two point two a game, you

518
00:37:55,679 --> 00:38:00,480
know, like Norm's taking a very
real amount of three pointers. You can

519
00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:06,480
see the confidence too, his quick
release. He's not hesitating at all.

520
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,280
As soon as he touches the basketball. He is putting it up or turning

521
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:14,320
the corner and getting to the basket. It's either a three or two layup,

522
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,119
like he's playing the analytics game.
I love the way Norm Palace looked

523
00:38:17,159 --> 00:38:21,679
so far. Yes, all right, we got to talk about the Nuggets

524
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,159
game. If you're listening to this
and not hanging out with us on the

525
00:38:24,199 --> 00:38:28,760
live, hey still thanks for support. We appreciate it. If you're listening,

526
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,239
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527
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:36,039
talk the very important game against the
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528
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,159
All right, you're back in with
Clips and Dan. It's me William up

529
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Teck, joined as always by Charles
Mockler and Adam Oslin In case you In

530
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,639
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531
00:38:46,639 --> 00:38:50,920
That's at Clippers Podcast. Also on
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532
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,000
you're listening to this, sorry,
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533
00:38:54,199 --> 00:38:57,960
You missed the hand, be sure
to be there next time. Anyways,

534
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,360
we talked a little bit about the
Clipper starters, what they're doing.

535
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:05,800
Right, We're gonna talk about the
Clippers now taking on the Nuggets. Famously,

536
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,559
the Nuggets really seemed to struggle with
the Houston Rockets. Maybe we can

537
00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:14,440
watch a little game film from that
to see, uh, to see what

538
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,719
we need to do to win this
one. Adam will kick it to you.

539
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,920
What do you want to see in
this one? For the Clippers,

540
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:24,280
he gotta win against the against this
tough Nuggets team. I'm interested to see

541
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:30,360
Daniel Tye match up with Nikola jokicch
They didn't have him in the last matchup

542
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,800
against them in a game where they
led by seven, was six minutes left

543
00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:39,679
and decided to go small. They
kept Beata Zubats off the floor late in

544
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:45,239
that one and I think definitely paid
for it. But now they have Daniel

545
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,639
Tye and PJ. Tucker gave him
really good minutes against Jokichen gave him really

546
00:39:49,639 --> 00:39:53,440
good minutes also, and I think
the twenty plus he played on Friday night

547
00:39:54,159 --> 00:39:58,079
against Ion Williamson. By the way, I do want to shout out PJ.

548
00:39:58,199 --> 00:40:02,360
Tucker there, like that's the perfect
opponent for him. He had some

549
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:07,880
success. And that's saying something because
the Clippers really struggle against guys like that,

550
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,320
and nobody's really like that. But
I just want to see the Clippers

551
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,280
seem like they have to get a
victory over Denver. They've lost seventh straight.

552
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,360
I don't know if it's ten of
the last eleven. It's been the

553
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,400
late domination. Coach Lewis said they
have owned us. They don't have Jamal

554
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:28,840
Murray right now. If the Clippers
are going to look like the team that

555
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:34,079
is turning that corner, I think
they need to get this victory and just

556
00:40:34,159 --> 00:40:39,280
put the the Denver Nuggets having their
number storyline behind them. They have to

557
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:45,079
slay this dragon tomorrow night. And
I'm interested to see what the rest situation

558
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:51,480
is for the Nuggets because they're playing
right now against the Spurs. They're injury

559
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,199
report for the game tonight. There
was a bunch of probables on it.

560
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:59,119
KCP, Reggie Jackson, and Jokic
all played. They were probable, but

561
00:40:59,199 --> 00:41:04,800
Aaron Gordon was probable. He's out, so who knows what's gonna happen with

562
00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:07,760
their rest schedule. I'm kind of
hoping we get the diet Nuggets just maybe

563
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,719
taking day off fellas. I don't
know. It could be nice for you

564
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,760
kick your feet up, but that'll
be something to monitor. So if they're

565
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:22,800
missing Eron Aaron Gordon, I'm feeling
better obviously, but I think he's the

566
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,920
best defender in the league. On
Kawhi Leonard, to be honest in that

567
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:31,239
is not great for the Clippers side
when you talk about the possibility of them

568
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,880
matching up in the playoffs. It's
not that Kawhi doesn't get buckets on him.

569
00:41:36,199 --> 00:41:39,280
He has, but I just feel
like he raised him as well as

570
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:44,559
anyone. Yes, and the Nuggets
are there. The Clippers have been great

571
00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:46,239
in the last five. The Nuggets
have been very bad the last five.

572
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:51,639
They're one and four. Hope we
see more of the same from what we

573
00:41:51,679 --> 00:41:54,880
got from rest versus the MAVs.
Adam you mentioned he took one shot outside

574
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,559
the Paint missed it, which is
fine because it was only one hit.

575
00:41:58,559 --> 00:42:05,039
All his shots at the rib the
ties point is really awesome. I'm really

576
00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:08,920
the lineups are gonna be interesting to
watch. I think ty We're gonna see

577
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:15,599
Tucker and Tice together, which was
not as bad as it has been the

578
00:42:15,679 --> 00:42:17,679
other night. It's been, yes, compared to what it was, it's

579
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:22,360
been great, So I think we'll
see that and then yeah, just excited

580
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:28,480
to see the new starting lineup against
this completely dominant Nuggets team right now.

581
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:35,800
Hope we get aggressive hard. I
think Daniel Tye has been better than advertised,

582
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,480
better than anyone could have thought he'd
be at this point. I just

583
00:42:38,559 --> 00:42:40,960
wasn't sure where he was at physically. We haven't seen him must in the

584
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,159
past two seasons going off of FEBA
basketball, just to try to get a

585
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:50,039
beat on where he's at. But
his effort level has been outstanding, and

586
00:42:50,079 --> 00:42:54,039
he's also just a really smart player. Obviously does not care about getting a

587
00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:59,639
lot of the praise. He just
makes the little hustle plays. But activity

588
00:42:59,639 --> 00:43:02,519
wise, athleticism wise, he's looked
good so far. He's been awesome as

589
00:43:02,519 --> 00:43:07,800
a play connector everything that he you
know, everyone was excited for for the

590
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:12,760
most part, except for the outside
shooting has been great, so I the

591
00:43:13,039 --> 00:43:15,239
Tyes pickup is an a plus so
far. Will have you gotten the Daniel

592
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:19,880
Tys jersey yet? Carl Tart mentioned
he wanted to get a tist jersey because

593
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,880
he doesn't want Daniel Tys on the
team, but I think his opinion may

594
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:28,440
have changed. Uh No, I
think Tys was. It depends on I

595
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,960
don't. I can't really think ahead
to how that's going to look in in

596
00:43:31,039 --> 00:43:36,800
the postseason. How Plumbly getting back, Yeah, exactly, how line's change

597
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,239
if Plumbley, you know, if
Plumbley does return, which hopefully he does.

598
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,840
But look, the Clippers had to
do something. This was the best

599
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,239
available move, and I think not
only has it been a stop gap,

600
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:52,320
but it has been effective and he
has worked in the position, save for

601
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,159
like that first game where I thought
he didn't look great. H he has

602
00:43:54,199 --> 00:43:58,400
come up to speed really really quickly. So I think that there is something

603
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,880
there for sure. Yeah, there's
something they're for sure, and I hope,

604
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,559
like defensively, the Clippers can kind
of continue to make a name for

605
00:44:06,639 --> 00:44:09,119
themselves and do what we know they're
to do. I feel like, that's

606
00:44:09,559 --> 00:44:13,119
to me what I want to see
the most out of this Denver game.

607
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,119
I think that we've gotten enough spits
and spurts of the offense that I'm start

608
00:44:16,159 --> 00:44:20,840
of. I'm seeing where that's kind
of starting to go. But I would

609
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,880
like to, especially with this Denver
team not scoring as much as they normally

610
00:44:24,199 --> 00:44:28,239
as we're used to them in this
season, just kind of running away with

611
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,239
things offensively. I love to see
how they're able to respond to the pressure,

612
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,519
if the Clips can really turn that
up, especially if they set the

613
00:44:35,559 --> 00:44:39,920
tone really early with just some really
physical defense. So that's what I'm looking

614
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,760
for to get a win in this
one. I think one of the encouraging

615
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:46,920
things right now for the Clippers is
the defense is ahead of the offense,

616
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:52,079
and you expect the offense to come
along given the names that are out there,

617
00:44:52,119 --> 00:44:54,599
given how much talent they have,
and the way guys are talking.

618
00:44:54,719 --> 00:45:00,320
Like James Harden last night, I
couldn't believe his postgame pres Sorry, I

619
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,880
listened to him in the locker room
talking with the reporters, and it was

620
00:45:05,519 --> 00:45:09,480
this is gonna sound like you know, a company line mouthpiece stuff. But

621
00:45:10,519 --> 00:45:15,199
he was abnormally unselfish with the way
he was talking about what he wants to

622
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:19,559
see out there, and he was
very analytical about, Look, my job

623
00:45:19,639 --> 00:45:22,320
is to generate the best shots out
there on the floor for this team,

624
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,960
because if we get those shots,
if we're more efficient on the offensive end,

625
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:30,000
then we consider our defense on the
other end. It was really a

626
00:45:30,039 --> 00:45:34,800
high level, almost coach speak from
James Harden post game. System speak is

627
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,519
what it was. It was system. It was system speak, a system,

628
00:45:37,639 --> 00:45:40,880
not these system guys. Let's not
mis quote him. Hey you didn't

629
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:46,840
you didn't say you said it right. But I have been encouraged by his

630
00:45:47,039 --> 00:45:52,719
attitude, the way he's come in
here. And then Russell Westbrook last night.

631
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,039
Yeah, he talked about you know, we can we can be special.

632
00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:04,079
We're figuring things out. I'm figuring
things out, but we can be

633
00:46:04,159 --> 00:46:07,239
special. It wasn't like I don't
know if this is gonna work. I

634
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,079
don't know if be coming off the
bench is the right move. It seemed

635
00:46:10,119 --> 00:46:15,280
like he was buying in. Uh
so Russ stands. Look, what you

636
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:20,639
should probably do is support the guy
that wanted to come off the bench in

637
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,679
his new role, off the bench, like throw your support behind him.

638
00:46:24,119 --> 00:46:30,679
So because obviously Russ is somebody that
is an emotional player that thrives when he's

639
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:35,599
embraced. He wanted to come off
the bench, So why are you arguing

640
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,360
that he should be starting. Just
just get behind him and praise him for

641
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:44,239
his play and try to start up
the sixth Man of the Year campaign.

642
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,440
There we go. Yeah, what's
up with that? Let's push for that

643
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:51,039
Russian wed. That's what I mean
with Lord playing. Now he's playing.

644
00:46:51,079 --> 00:47:00,960
We'll see. But uh I oh
are you hearing them? Well? I

645
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:05,159
can hear? I can't. No, Chuck's audio just cut out. Yeah,

646
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,159
that happened a few different times earlier. I got this text from our

647
00:47:07,159 --> 00:47:13,320
friend Joseph Ryah Ward though, regarding
some of the lineup changes going on,

648
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:19,639
and I thought it was a bear
mentioning Kawhi PG man that three man lineup.

649
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,440
There are plus twenty nine per one
hundred possessions, a one twenty offensive

650
00:47:22,519 --> 00:47:28,800
rating, a ninety one defensive rating
in about ninety minutes of play so far

651
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:35,840
since these lineup changes five games ago, Kawhi PG Russ a minus forty eight

652
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,719
per one hundred possessions, just a
one oh seven offensive rating, a one

653
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:45,079
to fifty five defensive rating in just
thirteen minutes, so a very small sample

654
00:47:45,159 --> 00:47:47,239
size. But uh, look,
I don't know how you can argue with

655
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:52,360
the results right now, even with
James Harden not putting up Monster box Score

656
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,199
numbers, even with Kawhi Leonard putting
up Monster box Score numbers or not.

657
00:47:55,280 --> 00:48:00,800
So far, the Hole has been
greater than the some of its parts.

658
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:05,159
With this new five man starting lineup
with Terrence Man in there for Russell Westbrook,

659
00:48:05,519 --> 00:48:08,199
it has been very effective. Guys
are getting good looks. They're shooting

660
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:13,480
fifty three percent from the floor,
those five guys together, and I think

661
00:48:14,079 --> 00:48:17,599
there's more untapped potential offensively there,
but easily, and it's nice we're going

662
00:48:17,679 --> 00:48:22,480
to see that against a reeling Nuggets
team. This would be the last one,

663
00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:24,760
was the best win of the Clipper
season. Tomorrow could be too,

664
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:34,960
Like tomorrow can very much take Damny
Chuck lost him again. You're right,

665
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,400
though, any of these wins coming
up will be the best victory of the

666
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:44,159
season. As good as the Mavericks
have been and they were third in the

667
00:48:44,159 --> 00:48:47,519
West and currently are, and how
potent they are offensively scoring one twenty a

668
00:48:47,559 --> 00:48:52,280
game, to hold them to eighty
eight is a feat but you take down

669
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,559
Denver finally, and we'll see what
the circumstances are with who's available. And

670
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,639
I do not care, but you
really don't. You just want to see

671
00:49:01,679 --> 00:49:06,079
him a get a victory finally over
the Denver Nuggets because they've been so close

672
00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:09,599
the past two times. I mentioned
the one game this season you're up by

673
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,639
seven was six minutes left. They
probably should have figured that out. But

674
00:49:13,679 --> 00:49:17,159
then going back to last season in
that overtime loss in Denver where Marcus Moreris

675
00:49:17,159 --> 00:49:22,159
played I think the last ten minutes
and just had a really rough stint and

676
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:23,239
a lot of people at the time
we're not sure why he was in the

677
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:29,320
ballgame. Clippers had a great opportunity
then, so it is past due for

678
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:34,000
them to take down the Denver Nuggets. Who are we picking for Players of

679
00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:37,239
the game. Things have been going
pretty good since we've started picking players of

680
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,880
the game. Will, who is
your pick for player of the game?

681
00:49:40,679 --> 00:49:44,280
It's true? Out of am I
wrong? Oh yeah, we deserve all

682
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:49,239
the credit. I didn't say anything
about credit. Will, who's your pick

683
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,840
for player of the game. I'm
going to go Harden. I think I

684
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:57,599
like what we've seen so far.
I'm ready for him. To keep up

685
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:02,840
this facilitator role with some with some
with a twenty plus game as well.

686
00:50:04,599 --> 00:50:07,480
Okay, yeah, last time we
played twenty one, just four assists for

687
00:50:07,559 --> 00:50:13,559
hard the last time we played the
Nuggets, Adam who is your pick?

688
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,440
It's not often that would go with
him because it's too easy, it's too

689
00:50:16,519 --> 00:50:20,960
obvious. But Kawhi Leonard's coming off
a game where he went two of twelve.

690
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,320
People are talking about him. Is
he still elite? Can he still

691
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:28,199
be the number one player on a
championship level team? I fully believe man

692
00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:37,840
overreaction. I think Kawhi is giving
him twenty eight to thirty points tomorrow against

693
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,320
Denver. And I'm looking back at
that first game, Uh, he was

694
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,119
just five or fourteen. He really
struggled. If he didn't have the off

695
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,159
night earlier this season against Denver with
just fifteen points on five to fourteen shooting,

696
00:50:47,559 --> 00:50:51,559
they win. That game was there
for the taking. I mean they

697
00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:55,440
had fourteen offensive rebounds. Jokics was
just eight of twenty three from the field.

698
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,360
They really let one get away.
I think Kawhi is gonna have something

699
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,239
to prove tomorrow night. Even though
he's not on social media, he has

700
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:08,079
no idea the conversation surrounding him.
He knows he went two for twelve last

701
00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:10,880
game. He's aware of that,
and that's enough to light a fire.

702
00:51:13,199 --> 00:51:17,239
I am going with the who did
just have a good game. I'm going

703
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,320
Terrence Man, and I think Terrence
Man's gonna be player of the game because

704
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,760
I think Terrence Man is going to
make three threes. That's why I think

705
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,639
he's gonna be player of the game. He's shooting thirteen percent. If he

706
00:51:27,679 --> 00:51:30,360
makes three, he's probably taken four
to five. Be a nice little boost.

707
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:35,760
He missed four last game. He's
missed a lot of threes, so

708
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,280
I would love for him and think
it will happen. He is coming back

709
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:43,960
from an injury though, yes,
that is very true. I think I

710
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,920
think he's gonna be able to do
it. I'm thinking three threes from Terrence

711
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:52,599
Man. I think what we saw
yesterday against Dallas is a glimpse of this

712
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:58,480
next level Terrence Man can get to
where he's more reliable for around thirteen to

713
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,800
fifteen points per night side from all
the little hustle plays, aside from picking

714
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:07,559
up his man ninety four feet,
I think Terrence Man also he has another

715
00:52:07,639 --> 00:52:12,079
leg up he can go offensively,
he can raise his own ceiling a little

716
00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:14,960
bit this season and just sow all
the stuff he's been working on, because,

717
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,679
like Will said, he still was
just coming back from an injury.

718
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:22,519
I think that was his eighth or
ninth game last night. Yes, I

719
00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:24,880
think that. Yeah, I think
you're right. So we settled we're gonna

720
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,840
win by twenty and we're gonna break
the streak against the Nuggets, right,

721
00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:32,280
I don't know. I was thoroughly
impressed. I was a little bit concerned

722
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:36,599
going into that game yesterday, considering
they sold out to get the victory,

723
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,639
yes to try to get the victory
against the Pelicans, and I thought,

724
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,599
oh, they're gonna have really tired
legs. Now. They went all in

725
00:52:42,639 --> 00:52:45,440
to get that victory against the Pelicans, they didn't get it, and now

726
00:52:45,519 --> 00:52:47,760
Dallas is a team off two days
rest. No, they were the team

727
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,960
that looked like they were tired out
there. The Clippers had the sets of

728
00:52:52,039 --> 00:52:54,280
urgency and all the energy. We
love it. We love it. We're

729
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:59,400
gonna get a win against the Nuggets. It's gonna be fantastic. I think

730
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,480
we're gonna be doing a double dip
probably after that game. If we're allowed

731
00:53:01,519 --> 00:53:05,559
on the radio, of course.
Uh, you guys watch the game cool?

732
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,679
Yeah, we watched it last night. We went to the Magic Castle,

733
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:15,440
a new episode on Tuesday around there. Reviews always help us, of

734
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:20,039
course, Adam, have you been
to the Magic Castle? No, I

735
00:53:20,079 --> 00:53:22,960
told you this off air. I
haven't been checked. I just want to

736
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,039
And you guys didn't invite me.
And we didn't have a ticket. We

737
00:53:25,079 --> 00:53:28,960
didn't have an open ticket. You
know hard it is to get into the

738
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,599
Magic Castle. It's absurd. Anyway, we went. It was a fun

739
00:53:32,599 --> 00:53:40,280
time. Uh, it was cool. Magic is fine. Guess will your

740
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:47,719
thoughts on the Magic Castle dece is
fair? All right? Not about wraps

741
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:52,760
it up? Thank you everyone hanging
all the live Uh we're YouTube dot com,

742
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,960
slash at clippers podcast on Twitter where
at clippers pod you can catch Adam

743
00:53:57,079 --> 00:54:00,199
arguing with people on there, which
is always good time out of his arm.

744
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:06,039
You mean casuals like b West.
Hey giving you a little previews.

745
00:54:06,079 --> 00:54:08,960
Just giving you a little preview led
the Pistons to back to back titles.

746
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:16,800
Not Isaiah Thomas. It was a
great podcast from Chucking. Will today shout

747
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:22,239
out be West. I think I
don't know Adam before we send these people

748
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,840
off into a work week after a
holiday. Let's get a let's get a

749
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:30,760
positive thing about the Clippers. Like
I said earlier, I think their offense

750
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:35,480
is just scratching the surface with James
Harden, with Kawhi Leonard and a little

751
00:54:35,519 --> 00:54:40,800
shooting mini funk he's been in and
they are primed and ready to take down

752
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:45,280
the Denver Nuggets. I'm with you, Chuck. I think it's going to

753
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:49,119
happen, and therefore they would have
won two of the first three games of

754
00:54:49,199 --> 00:54:52,800
this tough six game stretch and they're
in a position to have a successful week

755
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,719
and a half here. I think
this would be big for the Clippers.

756
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,320
There we go, you heard it. We will be back with a new

757
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:01,119
episode on two. They doubled him
tomorrow night. Thank you for hanging out

758
00:55:01,119 --> 00:55:04,119
and as always, let's go Clips.
