WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.399 --> 00:00:07.519 Breaking down all the exes at all. It's Steve Leavera and Jaygin Salvas. 2 00:00:07.839 --> 00:00:12.800 This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome 3 00:00:12.800 --> 00:00:15.640 back to Winding the Ball Hero Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve. Jay's 4 00:00:15.640 --> 00:00:19.800 out today. I have our guy, Adam and Juan with breaking news and 5 00:00:19.960 --> 00:00:26.480 this is I on the Ball breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. We're 6 00:00:26.480 --> 00:00:29.719 gonna start it off with some college football news. And we talked about a 7 00:00:29.760 --> 00:00:34.520 little bit earlier, but Georgia's Kirby Smart signed an extension to become the top 8 00:00:34.560 --> 00:00:38.719 PID head coach. Signed a two year contract, making him the highest paid 9 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:41.640 coach in college football? Is he is? He? Is it more than 10 00:00:42.119 --> 00:00:45.799 Saban made? Because I can't remember what he made? Ten million? What 11 00:00:46.439 --> 00:00:50.079 does it say? Tim sa says he's the first coach to get thirteen millis 12 00:00:50.079 --> 00:00:52.960 well then that yeah, there's no question. Yeah, he's probably thanks Savan 13 00:00:53.000 --> 00:00:57.119 for leaving. Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. I brought this question 14 00:00:57.200 --> 00:00:59.359 up to you, Adam. Do you think he is the Nick Saban? 15 00:01:00.439 --> 00:01:03.759 Nick Saban? It's hard, he's got to go for a while, but 16 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:07.719 you know he's already won back to back. They had a. They should 17 00:01:07.719 --> 00:01:10.359 have probably been in the playoff last year. They only had one loss. 18 00:01:10.400 --> 00:01:14.239 It was in the title game for the SEC. He's a great coach. 19 00:01:14.239 --> 00:01:15.959 He recruits really well. They're always top too. He's got a shot. 20 00:01:17.040 --> 00:01:21.040 He's already got two. Because there are similar conversations when coach K retired, 21 00:01:21.079 --> 00:01:23.519 who is kind of that next up? And I thought it was gonna be 22 00:01:23.599 --> 00:01:26.400 Jay Wright and then he goes and retired, right. I think the next 23 00:01:26.439 --> 00:01:34.920 guy after that with that is Bill Selph. I'm trying to think because there's 24 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:37.719 too many young guys now not too many, but there's a lot of young 25 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:40.879 guys coming up that they have to bide their time. But Jay Write's a 26 00:01:40.879 --> 00:01:47.200 good pick really early. Yeah, well now a little bit more time. 27 00:01:47.319 --> 00:01:49.239 Yeah, you know. The other guy would be uh oh, come on 28 00:01:49.319 --> 00:01:55.319 the Tennessee coach like barn barn Vic Barnes because he's been there long long, 29 00:01:55.640 --> 00:01:57.840 you know he hasn't but you know he's got a lot of success, but 30 00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:02.480 yet not to the main main prize. It is, of course, and 31 00:02:04.519 --> 00:02:08.360 Buto's got it, just got like a roadblock in front of him. And 32 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:14.719 it's being Izzo because he's a tough dude and and he's not finding success with 33 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:17.639 the way he used to coach or currently coaches. Yeah, you know, 34 00:02:20.039 --> 00:02:22.960 because he's got to loosen up a little bit. I'm not telling how about 35 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:27.120 coach, right, but today's kids, I don't like that, and it's 36 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:30.840 hard to adjust after you've had so much success all those years on one. 37 00:02:31.439 --> 00:02:34.680 So yeah, that's what happened with Aban. He had a certain way of 38 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:38.439 coaching for a decade at the change and the year he's decided to change. 39 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:43.400 You're tired after well, because you said I didn't like the direction my program 40 00:02:43.479 --> 00:02:46.840 was going, and he realized I'm not going to be able to fix it, 41 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:51.240 which makes no sense because he's a head coach, but he understood it's 42 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:53.680 it's it's a big challenge. Yeah, I think I think it. I 43 00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:57.080 think he was getting tired. Oh yeah, yeah. And he's seventy two 44 00:02:57.159 --> 00:02:58.960 ish, I think, so whatever it is, I don't know how old 45 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:02.680 is seventy great coach, great March coach. You know he's got he's the 46 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:07.759 magic, magic guy of March. But it's been a while, right, 47 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:14.159 I mean, the next update would probably be just the Pacers way back up. 48 00:03:14.479 --> 00:03:16.800 They're up nine about to end the first quarter, Hope nine against milwak 49 00:03:16.840 --> 00:03:22.919 at home. Yeah, okay, some baseball. Julio Urias or Urius up 50 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:28.240 the Dodgers. Former Dodger pitcher pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor domestic battery charge. 51 00:03:29.280 --> 00:03:30.439 So that was his wife or ex wife, right, I think at 52 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:34.919 the airport or something like that, right, crazy times. Yeah, yeah, 53 00:03:35.159 --> 00:03:38.000 he he's no longer a Dodger. No, because they just got rid 54 00:03:38.039 --> 00:03:39.599 of him. They don't, they don't stand for that. Yeah. Do 55 00:03:39.639 --> 00:03:45.240 you think do you think he'll be back in the place. He's super talented 56 00:03:45.280 --> 00:03:47.960 pitcher, he's one of the glasses, right Yeah, Yeah, he's not 57 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:51.360 going to be back with the Dodgers. There's always gonna be a team that 58 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:53.800 maybe takes a flyer on him. So I'll get you guys one. I 59 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:58.599 don't know if you've seen this local. Uh, Jayden Dolora, do you 60 00:03:58.639 --> 00:04:01.520 see what happened to him? Now? He ended up signing with the XFL 61 00:04:01.960 --> 00:04:05.280 San Antonio. Uh. I think last week Jay and I talked about it. 62 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:10.919 Would he given the circumstances of his life issues? Uh? Would he 63 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:14.840 would someone take a chance on him? Well, the NFL did not ye 64 00:04:15.560 --> 00:04:17.319 free agent or otherwise, I don't even think he was good enough to make 65 00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:21.519 it. Okay, but okay, I understand that. But maybe maybe uh 66 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:27.120 maybe a free agent somewhere just a latch on. But it's got character issue 67 00:04:27.160 --> 00:04:30.639 now for you know, for the reasons that we all know. Uh. 68 00:04:30.759 --> 00:04:33.079 But XFL, I guess signed him san Antonio, so he'll be able to 69 00:04:33.079 --> 00:04:36.240 play in that if he, of course banks the team. Good for him, 70 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:43.120 I mean, he did a lot for the program of he helps helped 71 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:46.040 it. He was he was a startup, and uh, probably wouldn't be 72 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:53.040 where they were last year. Sure the Jetfish would not have the Washington job 73 00:04:53.240 --> 00:04:56.639 if it were not for him. Yeah, although he did stick with him 74 00:04:56.639 --> 00:05:00.000 a little too long, Yeah, a little bit. We may have touched 75 00:05:00.000 --> 00:05:03.199 on this the other day, but Kentucky landed former U of A and West 76 00:05:03.279 --> 00:05:10.680 Virginia transfer Kirk Crisa. Yeah, not the officially. The officially said they 77 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:17.399 signed him yesterday today, right right right, And he thought on that good 78 00:05:17.399 --> 00:05:25.800 for him. It's funny because give Jonathan given, given, one of those 79 00:05:25.800 --> 00:05:29.519 guys for ESPN, broke the news and then he had a bunch of highlights. 80 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:32.879 And the funny thing is Kurt looks great. Yeah, on the highlights. 81 00:05:32.920 --> 00:05:35.560 Yeah, yeah, everybody does, right. I was just gonna go, 82 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:38.959 there, who the last time you saw highlights when the guy didn't look 83 00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:45.839 good? Right? Right? He looked fantastic, patching the ball, streeting 84 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:47.560 the ball. I says, I don't remember that guy all the time, 85 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:51.079 because that was the problem. He wasn't that guy all the time? Right? 86 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:58.240 So some NFL news, The Steelers declined Naji Harris's fifth year option, 87 00:05:59.279 --> 00:06:01.759 so he would be a free agent at the end of next season if they 88 00:06:01.759 --> 00:06:05.759 don't choose to sign him. It's a long term deal. They did build 89 00:06:05.839 --> 00:06:10.079 up the offensive line during the draft. They've built up the team pretty well, 90 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:14.720 so it could be a breakout here. He's had what three straight one 91 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:19.519 thousand yard seasons, so but I don't even know who's the Seilers have after 92 00:06:19.600 --> 00:06:24.040 him, Jalen Warren. So there, they do have good backs. But 93 00:06:24.720 --> 00:06:27.959 that's some news for Pitt. And then you wanted to talk about the fields. 94 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:32.040 Then, oh yeah, I mean they just had talks about putting him 95 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:36.240 back at punt returner kickoff returner, and I thought it's probably just for a 96 00:06:36.319 --> 00:06:41.480 media tension. I didn't I didn't take it that seriously. Yeah, that's 97 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:45.480 a that'd be an amazing move. Amazing move. I have something from Dick 98 00:06:45.519 --> 00:06:48.240 why so, buddy of mine who covers college basketball, older guy. Obviously, 99 00:06:48.240 --> 00:06:55.759 he says the top five Power five NIL rankings from according to three, 100 00:06:56.399 --> 00:07:00.199 you know that new website. Whatever, what would you say would be the 101 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:03.439 number one team in basketball? And IL deals and the money they have to 102 00:07:03.519 --> 00:07:13.439 give this year, this year, Kansas, I'm gonna go Duke Kansas isn't 103 00:07:13.439 --> 00:07:16.399 even on this list. At least maybe he could be on the list, 104 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:23.759 but he's Texas. Take a guess in Texas or no Texas Texas and the 105 00:07:23.759 --> 00:07:30.519 money they have millions, it's Texas twenty million, nineteen point nine million to 106 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:35.600 give, nineteen point nine million to give. That's unbelievable, unbelievable. You're 107 00:07:35.600 --> 00:07:41.000 a nineteen eighteen, twenty year old guy making whatever you're making. Of the 108 00:07:41.079 --> 00:07:45.920 kid from fau Davis, he's getting more than a million two at Arkansas. 109 00:07:46.759 --> 00:07:53.319 He's a fantastic player. If Babo was making reportedly one point eight or whatever, 110 00:07:53.399 --> 00:07:56.879 that's what they said, I said, come out, who came over 111 00:07:56.959 --> 00:08:00.480 that number? Because I saw Ballow. Yeah, I'm not sure he's one 112 00:08:00.480 --> 00:08:03.040 point eight. And if you're gonna give him one point eight. This kid 113 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:07.639 that you just mentioned, Davis, what's his name, He's Bobby two point 114 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:11.800 four. If that's the case, I thought he could have maybe been. 115 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:16.079 It's not the strongest draft class, right well, I think he was good 116 00:08:16.079 --> 00:08:18.720 thinking about testing it to see where he was at. But he won't be 117 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:22.600 making this money in the G League for sure. No, so it's a 118 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:26.879 smart move by him. Give him one more year, make this money and 119 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:28.639 then see what your chances are next year, and the guy can play. 120 00:08:28.879 --> 00:08:33.240 He destroyed it all. They could not Yeah, they could not stop him 121 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:35.000 at all. Yeah, everyone knew where the ball is going. Yet it's 122 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:39.639 still when he shot, it went in right, and it was a battle 123 00:08:39.639 --> 00:08:43.279 between him and and Caleb at the end game who's gonna have the ball at 124 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:46.080 the end? Right? Right? Right? And he was good the year 125 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:50.879 prior when they went to the final four. So consistent, consistent point guard. 126 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:52.279 I think he's more of it too. He's a little tweener, but 127 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:58.679 yeah, he's great. You wanted to talk about u A baseball? Oh 128 00:08:58.759 --> 00:09:01.759 yeah, yeah, they played this can again Stanford Friday, Saturday and Sunday 129 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:07.080 and some key Pack twelve games. Good for you if you guys want to 130 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:09.360 go out and go and see them play tonight, tomorrow and Sunday as they 131 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:13.519 get ready to end the season and the regular season and then they go play 132 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:16.879 in the Pac twelve Tournament in the next couple of weeks. That's Stafford, 133 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:20.240 right, that's here. I think it's here. Yeah. Yeah, And 134 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:26.279 then you wanted to touch on Dylan Anderson. Oh yeah, it'saw from Azy 135 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:28.960 Desert Swarm. I don't know who who reported it, but I just know 136 00:09:30.000 --> 00:09:33.799 that Dylan Anderson did commit to Boise State. Well, I think it's a 137 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:37.000 good fit. It's a it's a step down you think in terms of quality 138 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:39.519 of play, but it's a good fit where he might be able to find 139 00:09:39.519 --> 00:09:43.799 some time. And uh, Boise State's a team when he gets to March, 140 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:46.600 they're in there. They can create some magic and he can be one 141 00:09:46.600 --> 00:09:50.240 of those. Yeah, they're one of the team top teams in the in 142 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:54.639 the Mountain West. It seems like that's a trend where the bench players you 143 00:09:54.720 --> 00:09:58.039 just go to the who went their ball? Obama? Who wants the acott 144 00:09:58.120 --> 00:10:01.559 a kot I think and even the ball? Yeah, and then you try 145 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:07.600 to run somewhere else. Yeah, Philip to Mexico right, right, So 146 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:11.240 the the Mountain West is a pretty good basketball program. Uh. I think 147 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:15.840 they had like five six teams that went twenty and then they flopped the tournament, 148 00:10:15.879 --> 00:10:20.559 which is right, New Mexico. All these teams right and made our 149 00:10:20.559 --> 00:10:24.360 path San Diego show up. I gave one of the guys that covers the 150 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:28.360 team. All that in New Mexico had to do is beat them, and 151 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:31.360 they did. It wasn't even close. Now. But although Cleumson was better 152 00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:35.799 than what we thought they would be, they brought back a lot of experience 153 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:39.519 inside outside, not making it the year before. Yeah, that's the fuel. 154 00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:43.440 So yeah, they can I stop the front court, yeah, chaf 155 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:46.559 Those guys are good guys all yeah, and all should be drafted. So 156 00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:50.559 he's the guy who can go inside and outside. The other guy was very 157 00:10:50.600 --> 00:10:54.279 good crafty wise, Chaflin. Yeah. Yeah, and they had a lot 158 00:10:54.279 --> 00:10:58.639 of and then they had Gerard and they had the talent kind like they lost 159 00:10:58.000 --> 00:11:03.600 sure in Arizona when they played against good teams like well, I shouldn't say 160 00:11:05.080 --> 00:11:07.679 good teams that you didn't expect and that that wasn't where they played down right, 161 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:11.200 they didn't Clemson. Everyone think they played down. Clemson was good yea. 162 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:15.879 And Clemson was better that day. They were ready for it. Sure 163 00:11:16.159 --> 00:11:18.039 again, you know we're playing in Arizona. Let's get up for this game. 164 00:11:18.240 --> 00:11:22.200 Maybe they won't get up for us, and sure enough, ye March. 165 00:11:24.600 --> 00:11:26.679 Given that you've lived through it for a long time, it probably wasn't 166 00:11:26.679 --> 00:11:30.000 a surprise to you. I hate to keep going back to this, but 167 00:11:30.360 --> 00:11:33.039 I definitely knew that Clemson was gonna be a challenge and that it was going 168 00:11:33.080 --> 00:11:37.039 to be a close game. I thought we were gonna plain. That's probably 169 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:39.879 just the fan of me, especially when they came back. They came back, 170 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:43.320 I thought they were getting gonna get ready to make the run, and 171 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:46.240 then they just stopped. They made the run. Then happened a lot this 172 00:11:46.360 --> 00:11:50.840 season where they would make a run when they're down and then settle. They 173 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:56.679 settled for a one point and then we come Conversely, like the old Oregon 174 00:11:56.720 --> 00:12:00.960 game at the PAC twelve tournament, they had the fourteen point lead I think 175 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:03.159 it was, and then they blew it in the early parts of the second 176 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:07.399 half and they couldn't recover. I mean, and that the way that first 177 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:09.240 half pain. Yeah, we had a fourteen point lead, but we did 178 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:11.159 not play good either, so it was just kind of like, all right, 179 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:13.440 so is ore going to turn it on or are we gonna just shut 180 00:12:13.440 --> 00:12:16.600 them down? Right? And Oregon on another team was pretty good with the 181 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:20.039 big guy with the big guy who got hurt then came out. Yeah, 182 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:24.159 I'm glad you guys know names that big guy, the white guy. That's 183 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:28.960 right, that's right, those guys. I think it's more just like respect 184 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:33.639 to them. You know, you get you get the on their jerseys. 185 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:35.720 There's a name on the b without question. But it was kind of the 186 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:41.159 example I gave you here. Arizona has this swagger or has this confidence that's 187 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:46.200 there, doesn't need to be there. It's self imposed type of thing by 188 00:12:46.240 --> 00:12:50.919 the fans and by the players. Yeah, football doesn't doesn't doesn't have this 189 00:12:52.279 --> 00:12:54.879 because they're not that team, right, They're not that tam They're the team 190 00:12:54.919 --> 00:12:56.399 that you say, well, we can play Arizona and we can beat them. 191 00:12:56.480 --> 00:12:58.679 Arizona's a team this say is we're gonna go and we're gonna beat you. 192 00:12:58.799 --> 00:13:01.600 Yeah, it's the opposite. Yeah yeah, I mean I think like 193 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:05.879 a decade ago now, Oregon ranked number like eight in the nation. They 194 00:13:05.879 --> 00:13:09.240 were ready to roll in, beat us down and go to the rose ball. 195 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:13.720 Exactly. We woke up good example because the roles were reversed and you 196 00:13:13.720 --> 00:13:15.879 think, oh, we're good. Well, you know, they just probably 197 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:20.039 weren't. They were the Arizona basketball program. Yeah who they didn't show up 198 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:24.360 to play, and we ended up perfect example, perfect example. And then 199 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:28.799 you wonder how did this happen? Well, because you didn't play hard exactly, 200 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:33.159 I mean, I mean it almost happened with USC this year. Yeah, 201 00:13:33.279 --> 00:13:35.919 they thought Arizona was this pushover team. Yeah, we have them at 202 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:39.919 home. 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Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports 276 00:18:53.680 --> 00:18:57.480 fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. Jay is out today. I have Adam 277 00:18:57.640 --> 00:19:03.119 and my guy je in with me and now we all know as d D 278 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:07.240 Delanas Thanchevor. How are you with fan Duel TV? How do you see 279 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:11.519 your last name? Benavor? Right? Okay cool? I'm always bad with 280 00:19:11.640 --> 00:19:15.119 names, as you know. Hey, welcome to the show now it is 281 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:18.039 not as a pro. Yeah, it's a little weird being on the other 282 00:19:18.079 --> 00:19:21.240 side of the phone. Yeah, no, good, good, good, 283 00:19:21.319 --> 00:19:23.319 Good to have you. Obviously, it's a big weekend with the with the 284 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:27.200 Derby, tomorrow's The Oaks, which if you don't know the Oaks is for 285 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:33.480 the female runners on Friday and then the male runners on Saturday. So we're 286 00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:36.920 going to talk about that. But how's life at fan Duel TV and that's 287 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:41.400 Santa Anita. Well, it's been good. Fandel's been treating me pretty well. 288 00:19:41.440 --> 00:19:45.759 I've had quite a few opportunities to do some sports reporting up at San 289 00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:49.720 Anita, Las Aalle and Del Mars, so definitely the Southern California atmosphere as 290 00:19:49.720 --> 00:19:56.400 well, do some social hits and do some content for them, getting to 291 00:19:56.440 --> 00:20:00.200 go on the backside and show people the horses after their stakes winds and do 292 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:03.160 lots of interviews. It's been a lot of fun to create the content. 293 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:07.000 Yeah, no, I've seen and you posted on the X right a lot 294 00:20:07.039 --> 00:20:10.920 of it and not so much on Facebook. Yeah, I repost a lot 295 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:15.519 of it on x and some of it on my Instagram story, so plenty 296 00:20:15.559 --> 00:20:19.519 of it for be seen. We do a lot of specific content for Instagram, 297 00:20:19.559 --> 00:20:22.119 and it sounds like we're going to get to do some longer form stuff 298 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:26.160 for YouTube. So that's all really exciting. Getting to know the jockey colony 299 00:20:26.200 --> 00:20:29.200 a little bit more. That's been right at my wheelhouse lately, and so 300 00:20:29.240 --> 00:20:32.160 It's been really fun to hear these guys and stories and how they got involved 301 00:20:32.160 --> 00:20:37.079 in racing and what their kind of goals and aspirations are. Is their careers 302 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:38.920 continue and some of them have been in for twenty plus years, some of 303 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:42.400 them are just getting started. So sure, sure, no, you come 304 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:47.119 fun, you come up with great stories. And boy do those jockeys love 305 00:20:47.160 --> 00:20:52.759 flirting with you. Yeah, they are all flirts. I have definitely learned 306 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:56.519 that it seems to be a racetrack thing, not just a jockey thing though. 307 00:20:56.319 --> 00:21:00.599 True. Okay, good, good, good, and everything else is 308 00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:03.839 okay. Life is good. You picked the right profession, I think. 309 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:10.000 So. You know, I'm enjoying my job and what goes along with it 310 00:21:10.079 --> 00:21:12.599 and the sports reporting stuff that I'm getting to do. LA is still a 311 00:21:12.640 --> 00:21:15.799 bit of a toss up. You know. I'm not much of a California 312 00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:19.279 person. The traffic is killer, but the people that I get to surround 313 00:21:19.279 --> 00:21:25.480 myself with are unmatched. Yeah right, okay, so you ready have you 314 00:21:25.519 --> 00:21:29.599 been paying attention to the race for tomorrow? I'm sure you have been paying 315 00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:33.640 attention. That was dumb statement. My job, I don't know, Yeah, 316 00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:37.240 but I wanted to say, have you been reading the form about tomorrow 317 00:21:37.319 --> 00:21:40.279 and you have your picked already or do you have you nailed it down to 318 00:21:40.359 --> 00:21:42.880 three or four? I've got it down to about three horses, I think, 319 00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:47.440 you know. I think weather plays a big factor in it. We've 320 00:21:47.440 --> 00:21:52.160 currently had a very hot, dry track that's been very very fast the last 321 00:21:52.160 --> 00:21:55.920 couple of days. But if weather moved in today, I think that could 322 00:21:56.039 --> 00:22:00.359 change that. Church Hill dirt gets very clumpy and you can get a lot 323 00:22:00.359 --> 00:22:03.279 of kickback, and so horses that don't like kickback may just not run as 324 00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:07.240 well. Or if it's a wetter track that ends up turning to sloppy or 325 00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:10.880 mud later in the day like that could also pose quite a problem. Yeah, 326 00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:12.200 and you don't know until you know, right, because if they've never 327 00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:18.440 ridden or never run in the in the in the mud or in the whatever 328 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:22.359 it is, you don't know. Yeah, it's it's a very untested element. 329 00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:27.920 There are certain tracks for prep races that are very telling, oaklawn and 330 00:22:27.960 --> 00:22:33.319 fairgrounds being too that it does get very rainy and can get very sloppy there. 331 00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:36.839 And so that's a very big test in my mind. If they don't 332 00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:41.240 mind running at those tracks in those conditions, they're going to do just fine 333 00:22:41.240 --> 00:22:44.000 on Derby Day, no matter what the conditions are. Okay, So for 334 00:22:44.240 --> 00:22:47.400 let's go to the Oaks for tomorrow. I think the post is probably about 335 00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:51.599 three thirty our time. About that time, it looks like it's going to 336 00:22:51.640 --> 00:22:55.200 be about two fifty one eastern, so it may drift a little bit closer 337 00:22:55.200 --> 00:22:59.759 to three o'clock with how much time they put in between races, and they 338 00:22:59.839 --> 00:23:02.720 just you know, the glory of the horses walking up to the gate. 339 00:23:03.000 --> 00:23:04.799 So you said what you said five? Did you said two fifty one? 340 00:23:06.640 --> 00:23:10.319 That's too fifty one pacificissive? Okay? You said eastern ticking? How could 341 00:23:10.319 --> 00:23:12.680 that be? Okay? Yeah, so three o'clock right before the show. 342 00:23:12.720 --> 00:23:15.279 So I'll have to get a ticket if you give me the winner for tomorrow. 343 00:23:15.319 --> 00:23:22.240 So what do you have? So Torpedo Anna is coming out of a 344 00:23:22.279 --> 00:23:25.200 win in the Grade two Fantasy. She ran a mile on the sixteenth. 345 00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:27.160 There was a fast track that day at Oakland. She was one that was 346 00:23:27.200 --> 00:23:33.599 making her three year old debut and she did it so impressively, so professionally, 347 00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:36.400 So many people were high on her that day. She was the favorite 348 00:23:36.400 --> 00:23:41.079 at about five to two and she beat a pretty impressive field. It was 349 00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:47.119 a decent size, so I think she's one that is going to be fairly 350 00:23:47.359 --> 00:23:52.160 forwardly placed. Could be sitting off of it a little bit, but she 351 00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:56.319 pulls the five holes, so she's got a lot of flexibility, and Brian 352 00:23:56.359 --> 00:23:59.839 Harmande's unier has a lot of flexibility of where he wants her place. He's 353 00:23:59.839 --> 00:24:03.240 got Lemon Muffin to the outside, who did not run great in the fantasy. 354 00:24:03.319 --> 00:24:04.839 She was actually at the back of the pack almost the entire way, 355 00:24:06.480 --> 00:24:11.119 and he's got regulatory risk to his inside who tends to be a little bit 356 00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:18.000 more forwardly placed. So Brian Hernandez could definitely use regulatory risks more as a 357 00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:22.960 blocker to help get her better position going into that first turn. Okay, 358 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:30.920 so you have torpedo and then who's who's Who's got who's the Kenny McPeak is 359 00:24:30.920 --> 00:24:34.440 the is the trainer? Okay, yeah, the Peak is the trainer of 360 00:24:34.440 --> 00:24:38.000 that one. Okay, what's the who's your second horse? I think Terifa 361 00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:41.079 for Brad Cox is another really good one to look at. She's one that 362 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:45.240 has run on a floppy track as well as a fast track. She's run 363 00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:49.559 at that mile of sixteenth she's looking for her fourth straight victory. So my 364 00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:53.119 dad's always said right along, the winners know how to win. So I 365 00:24:53.160 --> 00:24:56.559 mean she is the morning my favorite. Currently at about seven to two, 366 00:24:57.000 --> 00:25:00.839 she's coming out of the fairground oak. She was a another one that's sat 367 00:25:00.880 --> 00:25:03.480 a stocking trip. That was a much smaller field that day with only about 368 00:25:03.480 --> 00:25:08.240 six horses. But she's one that can show speed or sick. She tends 369 00:25:08.319 --> 00:25:11.000 to be just off of it though. That seems to be more of her 370 00:25:11.079 --> 00:25:14.359 race. Well, that sounds like a good race that I would like to 371 00:25:14.359 --> 00:25:18.519 get with Terifa t r if A. Yes, right, okay, No, 372 00:25:18.599 --> 00:25:22.160 that's a good one if they'd like to sit and rally. I like 373 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:26.119 those type of horses. Okay. Well, and she's got slavy and proud 374 00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:30.559 aboard and that jockey trainer combos hitting at about thirty three percent anywhere from twenty 375 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:33.240 nine to thirty three percent, so it's a really good combos. So it's 376 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:36.559 hard to go against that. Okay, okay, And then reach your third 377 00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:40.599 horse. You know, the third horse that I've been going back and forth 378 00:25:40.640 --> 00:25:45.359 on is just Fyi or uh where's my ring? So just Fyi as your 379 00:25:45.359 --> 00:25:51.079 two year old champion. She won the Breeders Cup Juvenile Phillies. She was 380 00:25:51.119 --> 00:25:56.200 supposed to make her return in the stair Ground. I'm sorry not to sparaguns 381 00:25:56.400 --> 00:26:02.519 the Florida Oaks and she and the Gulfstream most and she unfortunately just wasn't able 382 00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:03.960 to come back to you to having a fever. So she made her first 383 00:26:04.000 --> 00:26:07.160 start back as a three year old and the Grade one Ashland at Keemless, 384 00:26:07.279 --> 00:26:12.000 which was just April fifth, so it wasn't that long ago, so this 385 00:26:12.039 --> 00:26:15.720 is coming on a pretty short turnaround. She ran second that day, so 386 00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:21.799 she's now three for four lifetime. She put out a bullet work two works 387 00:26:21.839 --> 00:26:26.720 back, which means she was the fastest horse at that distance at that track 388 00:26:26.839 --> 00:26:32.000 on that day, so she worked five furlongs in fifty nine second fifty nine 389 00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:36.359 point four seconds. Wouldn't you say a go ahead, go ahead? I 390 00:26:36.480 --> 00:26:40.599 just say, wouldn't you say when you're handicapping this race and the Derby that 391 00:26:40.759 --> 00:26:44.720 it's more the Oaks is more of a chalky race compared to the Derby. 392 00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:49.279 Not necessarily. The last favorite that won was in twenty twenty one, which 393 00:26:49.319 --> 00:26:56.079 was malab that so we've had two prices or second or third price pick horses 394 00:26:56.160 --> 00:26:59.599 come in in the last couple of years, so I wouldn't say this race 395 00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:02.960 has been super chucky. Just FYI is currently going off at about nine to 396 00:27:02.960 --> 00:27:06.200 two on the morning line, and I expect her to come down a little 397 00:27:06.200 --> 00:27:08.759 bit from that, just with her Accolades's backclass, being the two year old 398 00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:14.160 champion. There's a part of me that really thought she needed that race to 399 00:27:14.279 --> 00:27:18.240 just kind of from a conditioning standpoint, to get back into things and just 400 00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:22.480 remember how to do racing because she had had such a long time off. 401 00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:27.200 Right, Well, okay, what's what's uh? Torpedo Ann going off then 402 00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:33.079 to Anna is about five to one on the morning line. I mean, 403 00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:37.839 you've got some prices in there. I suspect that Torpedo Anna will come down 404 00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:42.240 to probably about seven to two. I think she'll come down considerably based on 405 00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:48.559 just her last race alone. Okay, and what about Terifa Terrefa, I 406 00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:52.960 think could come down a little bit as well. But I don't really see 407 00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:56.160 a son of them dropping below two to one. Okay, So there'll be 408 00:27:56.200 --> 00:28:00.160 a decent, decent ticket, you know, not a bad price, yes, 409 00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:03.240 okay, not about ticket for you before you gave me, So I 410 00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:06.839 might do that, so many with that. Okay, let's go to the 411 00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:10.400 derby because we still want to talk to you about something else before we close 412 00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:15.160 up the day. Okay, what's the derby? So the derby this year 413 00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:17.960 is it's the year of the Bays. And if you don't know what a 414 00:28:17.960 --> 00:28:21.440 bay horse is, they are a brown colored horse with a black mane and 415 00:28:21.559 --> 00:28:27.359 blacktail and black legs. So there's only one gray horse. So some people 416 00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:30.000 have a thing where you only bet the grays, like all in on the 417 00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:33.880 gray. Well, there's only one gray horse. His name is West Saratoga 418 00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:36.680 this year. He is not my pick, but he can be your pick 419 00:28:36.720 --> 00:28:38.039 if you would like him to be. No, I may be gray, 420 00:28:38.079 --> 00:28:42.160 but I'm not going with a grit. Okay, sir, leone is my 421 00:28:42.359 --> 00:28:47.680 top pick in this year's derby. I just I cannot get over his form. 422 00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:51.880 He's continued to improve. He's a big horse and he's still figuring things 423 00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:56.480 out. Chad Brown put out a quote earlier that said they don't plan on 424 00:28:56.640 --> 00:28:59.880 changing this horse's riding style at all because he's such a deep closer. He 425 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:04.559 can sit twelve lengths off of the leaders and make a five furlong move. 426 00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:10.319 So five eights of a mile before he passes the leader. But he doesn't 427 00:29:10.359 --> 00:29:15.480 have a problem passing horses he's running the slop. He just he's overcome adversity 428 00:29:15.559 --> 00:29:18.519 so many times. Him drawing the two hole is not a super big red 429 00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:22.880 flag in my mind. However, the last horse that won the Kentucky Derby 430 00:29:22.880 --> 00:29:26.880 from the two hole was affirmed in nineteen seventy eight, so it's been a 431 00:29:26.880 --> 00:29:30.400 while. Yeah, yeah, okay, But he's a very smart horse. 432 00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:36.680 He's very can be much closer to the pace that he needs to be, 433 00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:38.759 like he did in the Risen Star when he won, rather than the Bluegrass 434 00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:44.319 where he was so far out and he overcame a fourteen withdraw that day and 435 00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:47.200 not wanting to load in the gate. So there's a part of me that 436 00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:48.640 goes, this horse just lets to run and he's going to get it done 437 00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:52.519 no matter what happened. I love that pick because it is my pick. 438 00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:56.240 I've looked at the form a few times already, especially today. I liked 439 00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:00.960 here at leone. He's a nose away from being undefeated, and I just 440 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:04.119 hope he doesn't get stuck in traffic where you'll make it more difficult for him. 441 00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:08.720 To nail him down the stretch. That is a big concern with being 442 00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:11.279 stuck on the inside is he's going to get stuck on the rail and not 443 00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:14.799 be able to kind of weave around. He doesn't seem to be a horse 444 00:30:14.839 --> 00:30:19.200 tho that's afraid to go round other horses or weave around. Tyler gaffleone has 445 00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:25.119 piloted him extremely well in his last several races to be able to get him 446 00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:30.279 through traffic and get him around. So ideally the two hole if he just 447 00:30:30.319 --> 00:30:33.440 sits a little bit out of the gate and just waits for everyone to go 448 00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:36.599 past so he can get the outside track that you want. Okay, I 449 00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:42.119 like it. I like it. What's number two? Number two probably going 450 00:30:42.160 --> 00:30:48.599 to be Casting Freedom. He's another one that comes out of the Louisianader if 451 00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:51.200 that's the Great two. He was the winner in there. It was a 452 00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:55.160 fast track that day. He went a mile in three sixteenth he won by 453 00:30:55.200 --> 00:30:57.119 a length. A couple of the other horses that are in this field were 454 00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:00.440 in that race, So I think that shows that he's proving whereas others might 455 00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:04.200 not be as improving as much as he is. Again, a horse that's 456 00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:07.960 run on a fast track, a floppy track, it doesn't really seem to 457 00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:14.880 phase him. He's another deep closer. So these catching Freedom and Sierra Leone 458 00:31:14.920 --> 00:31:18.480 could be coming fast and hard at the same time. So looking for the 459 00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:22.640 two in the four cloth could be kind of interesting if it gets money, 460 00:31:22.640 --> 00:31:26.440 because you may not see him. Okay, third horse, all right, 461 00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:33.200 let's see here the third horse. I think you have to throw Fierceness's hat 462 00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:36.240 into the ring. Like it's just it's so hard to ignore the one hundred 463 00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:38.640 and ten buyer speed figure that he put up in the Florida Grade one Derby. 464 00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:44.680 He won by thirteen and a half length. Like, that field, 465 00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:48.400 while it was nine horses, was not a super deep field. Those horses 466 00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:52.240 were not to the caliber that he's running against today. My only concern with 467 00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:56.039 him is you never know who's going to show up, what Fierceness is going 468 00:31:56.119 --> 00:32:00.440 to show up on that day. He's shown that he can can't overcome adversity 469 00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:04.559 if he gets bumped in the start, if he gets bumped in the race, 470 00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.720 or just if something goes wrong or doesn't go his way, he doesn't 471 00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:10.359 run to the top level that we know that he can run at. Again, 472 00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:15.440 a two year old champion that came back in the Holy Bowl and just 473 00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:19.599 didn't really perform to the level that they thought he was going to. Now, 474 00:32:19.640 --> 00:32:22.279 maybe he needed that race in the Holy Bowl to be able to get 475 00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:25.680 to where he is in the Florida Derby. The work that he had before 476 00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:30.160 the Florida Derby was given an A rating by the Workers Report, which is 477 00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:34.480 unheard of. He got an A minus going in on his last work going 478 00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:38.279 into the Derby this past week, so he's obviously working very well. He's 479 00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:42.799 coming into his three year old form in top form. It's just a matter 480 00:32:42.880 --> 00:32:45.599 of does he break on top because if he gets to the league, he's 481 00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:49.839 going to run away from these other horses because he's simply that much faster. 482 00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:53.960 But he's a much slimmer built horse compared to Sierra Leone. Like Fierceness is 483 00:32:54.079 --> 00:33:00.000 very delicately built. He's built for speed. Sierre Leone is very muscular through 484 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:04.599 his shoulders. He literally kicks out one of his front legs because he's just 485 00:33:04.720 --> 00:33:07.240 grinding away so hard at the dirt. They're built very differently, so they 486 00:33:07.440 --> 00:33:14.440 run very differently, the Fierceness being all speed. Todd Pletcher, the Trainer 487 00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:17.119 Hall of famer Johnny Blaska is a board like it's hard not to put him 488 00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:22.359 in with that top selection, as he will go off as the morning line 489 00:33:22.359 --> 00:33:23.920 favorite at five to two. Yeah, okay, no, I like that 490 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:27.880 pick two. Yeah, I agree with you. How can you not keep 491 00:33:28.200 --> 00:33:31.119 fierceness out of your ticket? And then maybe number fourth or fourth fourth spot? 492 00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:35.880 You know, this fourth one is a little bit of a home chair 493 00:33:36.039 --> 00:33:40.400 for me. The eighteen stronghold for Phil to Motto, it's the lone California 494 00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:44.920 horse that's going and representing this year. He won the Santa a Nita Derby. 495 00:33:44.960 --> 00:33:49.000 He beat a baffort horse Imagination by notes he's been running with the top 496 00:33:49.039 --> 00:33:53.559 baffort horses out here on the West Coast night those windstock like those are horses 497 00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:58.720 that you can't ignore in the running lines. He ran in a mile and 498 00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:01.319 eighth so he's making a bigger step up to that mile and a quarter distance, 499 00:34:02.480 --> 00:34:07.039 but he is he's only continuing to improve. Bil to Motto explained it 500 00:34:07.079 --> 00:34:09.639 as a light bulb went off for the Sunland Derby, where all of a 501 00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:14.920 sudden something clicked and he just ran on. This is a horse after watching 502 00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:17.559 his works when he works with a horse, they give him a target to 503 00:34:17.639 --> 00:34:22.079 run at. He doesn't necessarily want to run past the horse, but he 504 00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:24.480 will grind away next to that horse and keep running with him until he gets 505 00:34:24.559 --> 00:34:29.199 nose in front. So his victories are not by huge margins, but he's 506 00:34:29.239 --> 00:34:32.159 an absolute trier and he's got a big, big heart. This is also 507 00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:37.280 fill to Moatto's first Kentucky Derby that he's got a starter in. So it's 508 00:34:37.360 --> 00:34:40.920 very bittersweet as I've gotten no bill in his family and to see how excited 509 00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:45.599 they are for this opportunity with him, Antonio phrase through the board. Antonio 510 00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:50.760 is an absolutely great guy. He came over here from Dubai this past summer. 511 00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:53.039 He won a couple of races at Churchill today, like he is trucking 512 00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:58.719 along and I really do hope to see Stronghold run really well. He is 513 00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:01.880 now in the cursed step and teen hole, so I don't think that he 514 00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:07.440 wins, but I do think he is a solid move on and under your 515 00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:10.079 winner in the exotics. Okay, No, I like you. I like 516 00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:14.400 how you explained it. Okay, we know that Baffort doesn't have anything in 517 00:35:14.719 --> 00:35:16.440 this race. How do you think mouth would do? I think he'd be 518 00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:22.199 top two. I think Mouth would absolutely be up there. He is a 519 00:35:22.440 --> 00:35:27.760 top performer. He's a big horse againje Hernandez, after his win in the 520 00:35:27.840 --> 00:35:31.000 Arkansas Derby, described him as an aggressive horse. If he gets too close 521 00:35:31.039 --> 00:35:35.599 to horses running side to side, he gets almost too aggressive and tries too 522 00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:37.719 hard and so then you're having to hold it back. So rather than that 523 00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:43.639 in a race, it works to have some space between horses. And he's 524 00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:46.599 a tactical horse where he doesn't have to be the front horse with everyone behind 525 00:35:46.679 --> 00:35:51.400 him. He can see a horse and just kind of run at them as 526 00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:53.000 long as he's got room to go around them. So I think Mouth would 527 00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:58.840 absolutely stack up in here. And that great one Arkansas Derby win was outstanding, 528 00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:02.079 like it was definitely top quality and Backwards known for going to Oakland and 529 00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:06.159 pulling out those kind of those kind of wins. He did the same thing 530 00:36:06.199 --> 00:36:08.360 with American Pharaoh about nine years ago when American Pharaoh went on to win the 531 00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:14.440 triple Crown and the what was it like a thirty seven year deficit of a 532 00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:17.840 triple crown winner right right? And then I think he'll be my pregnus winner 533 00:36:17.880 --> 00:36:22.719 as well. And I think He's very much going to be the Preakna's favorite, 534 00:36:22.800 --> 00:36:25.199 no doubt. It sounds like Moose and both imagination are going to go 535 00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:29.880 to the prenet right, okay. And lastly, I want to stir your 536 00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:38.760 juice's currs. Going to Kentucky KERKKRISA. Yeah, you know, not my 537 00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:42.920 wildcat team. So that's all that counts, you know, U of a 538 00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:49.079 Wildcat versus UK Wildcat a little different. I'm sure the UK people are excited 539 00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:53.000 to have him. We've always said he's a polarizing player. We've always said 540 00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:57.599 some people are really excited about him, some people not much. I made 541 00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:01.440 myself very clear where I stood a couple of years ago. I maintain where 542 00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:05.719 I stand there. I think he's an okay player, but I think he's 543 00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:08.320 more trouble than he's worth. Okay, thank you D, good luck, 544 00:37:08.360 --> 00:37:13.159 thank you, and we'll see how we do on Saturday. You got it 545 00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:15.440 right, be well, thank you, Nike D. That's D. I 546 00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:20.719 like her picks. 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I'm doing well, my grand 591 00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:38.119 How were you fine? Thank you? Thanks for calling back. What's going 592 00:40:38.159 --> 00:40:44.079 on right here yet? Well? I was at a conference today in Jay 593 00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:49.639 Dobbins was our keynote speaker, and he talked about a couple of things about 594 00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:55.480 he originally went to Arkansas's freshman year and then came back to Arizona. One 595 00:40:55.519 --> 00:41:02.159 of the things she said that sort of me was your guests or your co 596 00:41:02.320 --> 00:41:08.199 host there we're talking about Arizona. We're the only basketball it's sort of the 597 00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:14.079 only go in town. So everybody runs around telling him how great they are 598 00:41:14.239 --> 00:41:16.800 and how good they do this, and how good they do that. But 599 00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:27.840 he was talking about lou Holtz had talked about him. The emphasis of playing 600 00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:32.679 college sports seemed to be a little bit different in the back then, and 601 00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:37.320 Lou Holtz was at Arkansas at the time. But you have to look at 602 00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:40.440 the SEC, the Big twelve, you know, the Big Ten, and 603 00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:45.760 the emphasis was a lot different back and that's the same with basketball, the 604 00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:52.360 emphasis with the Kansas, so the North Carolinas, the Michigan, the Michigan 605 00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:57.840 States, the emphasis is different. And I think because Tucson is such a 606 00:41:57.880 --> 00:42:04.320 small community and he's young men, they have enough distractions being young. But 607 00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:07.320 the fact is then they're being told how great they are, and then all 608 00:42:07.320 --> 00:42:10.599 of a sudden adversity hits and they realize, oh, maybe I'm not as 609 00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:15.920 great as I thought I was, and so that gets in their heads too. 610 00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:22.840 So it's a combination of different things that Arizona Athletics, particularly the basketball 611 00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:27.480 team has faced. The combination of their youth and then them being the only 612 00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:32.079 real dance in town. They get a lot more praise heap on them than 613 00:42:32.119 --> 00:42:37.199 they would say playing at Kansas or Texas or wherever else in the country. 614 00:42:37.599 --> 00:42:42.800 Particularly. I don't disagree with you at all. In fact, although your 615 00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:45.880 Kansas thing is no different than because they do it even more. That's a 616 00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:51.159 smaller, smaller college town than Tucson is. And they're good, but they 617 00:42:51.239 --> 00:42:59.159 suffer the same fate of playing sometimes lesson they're able to history. Yeah, 618 00:42:58.199 --> 00:43:02.920 but the flip side is they're playing a lot bigger and better competition over the 619 00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:10.000 course of say five six and Arizona. So it's a different, different mindset 620 00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:14.400 altogether. And you have to look at the history of Kansas all the way 621 00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:19.320 back to Will Chamberlain. I mean you talked about the expectations are so much 622 00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:22.159 greater back at Kansas than they were in Arizona, even with Luke here. 623 00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:25.760 Yeah, yeah, no question, apples and apples, there's no doubt about 624 00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:30.920 that. But your point, your point is made because Tucson is that is 625 00:43:30.960 --> 00:43:36.559 their protein. And how could you not think that your stuff doesn't stink right 626 00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:40.599 when people tell you it doesn't stink right? But back there they tell you 627 00:43:40.679 --> 00:43:46.360 all the time your stuff does stinks, And so they don't take the compliments 628 00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:52.280 as for granted. Is maybe here in Tucson is because they hear a lot 629 00:43:52.360 --> 00:43:54.440 more of it here than they do, say, playing someplace else, because 630 00:43:54.480 --> 00:44:00.719 the coaching staffs are a lot more emphatic about the competitions out more emphatic, 631 00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:05.079 right, and the courseill over, like I say, five or ten years, 632 00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:07.960 it's a different scenario. Well, let me ask you this. I'll 633 00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:10.480 last let me ask you before you leave, and I'll ask one and the 634 00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:15.000 kids here, you know, the young man, because they're going to the 635 00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:17.159 Big twelve, do you think that'll change because they are going to find some 636 00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:22.159 hard knocks. Yes, absolutely, I think it's going to be great for 637 00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:25.079 Arizona, particularly the basketball team. I think that all of a sudden they're 638 00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:29.960 going to realize, okay, they may get all the love they're going to 639 00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:34.400 get here in Tucson. But they're going to get all the antagonism they handle 640 00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:37.360 in the Big twelve, and you get a lot of good teams in the 641 00:44:37.400 --> 00:44:43.079 Big twelve. Don't be and you can't And there was nothing wrong with the 642 00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:46.800 Oregon or the this last year. But the consistency of play in the Big 643 00:44:46.840 --> 00:44:51.519 twelve is at a higher rate than the Pac twelve. Good points, Rick, 644 00:44:51.599 --> 00:44:52.800 good points. I like it. Yep, thanks so much for calling. 645 00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:57.519 Thanks buddy. Yeah, it's funny because you guys are shaking your heads 646 00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:00.440 green right, Yeah, no, I one thousand percent agree with that. 647 00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:04.239 You're gonna get Houston, you're gonna get Kansas, You're gonna get all these 648 00:45:04.280 --> 00:45:07.159 teams, right, gonna you're gonna be You're gonna say, Okay, we're 649 00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:09.239 good, and then go there and says, oh maybe we're not that good. 650 00:45:09.760 --> 00:45:14.239 You know, we need to get better. Right. Well, I 651 00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:17.159 think it's gonna be important not only for our programs to just the Big toeve, 652 00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:21.880 but our fan base because, like we said earlier, there's gonna be 653 00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:24.039 more loss. There's gonna be more the loss. Sure, sure, well 654 00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:28.559 those are quality losses. Yeah, no question. In fact, I kind 655 00:45:28.559 --> 00:45:30.880 of and I've known this for a while it was gonna play Indiana in Vegas 656 00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:36.760 two season before last, so and and everybody says, you know, it's 657 00:45:36.960 --> 00:45:40.840 McHale North that day. It was not Michale North. It was Indiana West. 658 00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:44.840 Yeah it was. It was maybe two to one in terms of fans. 659 00:45:45.119 --> 00:45:49.679 And you're thinking Indiana travels because they love their program. And when they're 660 00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:52.199 introducing the team, and I've said this on the show before, they went 661 00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:54.360 through like a minute or two of things they've accomplish us through the years, 662 00:45:54.440 --> 00:45:59.320 right, And Arizona's was and they won the national title in ninety seven. 663 00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:04.119 They ten pack, twelve titles, Let's play the game, you know it 664 00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:07.519 was, it was. The resume was not as long, and you realize, 665 00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:12.239 Okay, the fans take no, you're good. And Indiana's could be 666 00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:16.679 considered a blue blood with Bobby and I they sleep, breathe back as recently 667 00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:22.440 they're not having been, but they are right, they are historically sure, 668 00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:27.880 right, And I'm thinking people need to kind of like realize this. You 669 00:46:27.920 --> 00:46:31.320 sometimes your stuff does stink and we just need to get better. Yeah, 670 00:46:31.480 --> 00:46:36.800 that's gonna happen with Yeah, which is gonna benefit there, Okay, because 671 00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:42.000 reality sometimes helps. No, most of the time. It helps actually absolutely, 672 00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:44.840 Yeah, Okay, good call, thanks Rick. Uh. And that's 673 00:46:44.840 --> 00:46:47.239 that's the perspective that you people kind of need to know. You know, 674 00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:52.360 he talked about Kansas, but Kansas blue blood and a smaller town to live 675 00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:57.800 in. Uh. And they are the stuff, and they too suffer what 676 00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:00.480 Arizona has stuffer because they've lost games that they should have never lost in the 677 00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:06.320 tournament. Yep. Historically, Yeah, they get a lot of from what 678 00:47:06.400 --> 00:47:10.079 I see, they get a lot of calls that benefit them, especially this 679 00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:15.639 this past tournament. Remember the block, Yeah that was clean. Yeah, 680 00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:20.320 we were there at the game. And then they get by Zaga the next 681 00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:22.639 game. Yeah, but yeah, they were they did have and they weren't 682 00:47:22.639 --> 00:47:27.960 that good this year. They were they were missing McCullers, their best. 683 00:47:28.360 --> 00:47:30.800 I guess he's their best and Dickenson is very good too. They're gonna be 684 00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:34.440 good. They're gonna begin next year. When was last to me say they're 685 00:47:34.440 --> 00:47:37.840 not gonna be looks like there was people ask the time, how good deserves 686 00:47:37.840 --> 00:47:39.760 are gonna be. I can't remember them saying they're not gonna be any good. 687 00:47:39.960 --> 00:47:44.079 Right, They're gonna be competitive, that's for sure, and they're gonna 688 00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:47.239 be fun to watch. I think Kansas is final four. Ask team next 689 00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:51.320 year, what do you think? I think anyone that comes out of the 690 00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:55.079 Big twelve can be a Final four contender. In Texas Tech a couple of 691 00:47:55.119 --> 00:48:02.320 years ago exactly, they clean the other transfer nas. Yeah, and they 692 00:48:02.400 --> 00:48:07.800 got Dickinson coming back. And I don't think he's that good for college good. 693 00:48:07.960 --> 00:48:10.360 He's called college good. Yeah. And that's this five foot ten guys 694 00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:16.679 saying this, this is nuts. Shouldn't happen. I was middle school good, 695 00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:22.840 right, but a good center if but it does A twelve year old 696 00:48:23.320 --> 00:48:29.119 yeah, for what I was going up against right right? We got about 697 00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:31.039 four minutes. Anybody want to call in? Please do uh set us straight 698 00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:34.800 if you feel you need to. I'm fine with that. Five to two, 699 00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:37.280 four, one, six, seventy four forty end of the week. 700 00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:40.719 This is Are you coming in next week? I'll be uh thank tomorrow okay? 701 00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:43.880 Oh yeah, Friday's your day? Yeah? Are you coming back to 702 00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:46.960 I don't know because Jay Jay, who knows if Jay's gonna be well enough 703 00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:50.639 to come in or not. He sounded didn't sound that great, didn't you? 704 00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:53.559 Yeah? So I could be for Jay Okay and you're kind of learning 705 00:48:53.559 --> 00:48:58.079 the rope still for sure. Okay, cool, cool again one more time 706 00:48:58.119 --> 00:49:01.320 for for four minutes five four seventy four forty. I'd love to hear from 707 00:49:01.320 --> 00:49:06.559 you, uh and see what we get through to today. It feels like 708 00:49:06.639 --> 00:49:09.280 a Friday to me, but it's uh, it's gonna be. It's ony 709 00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:13.840 Thursday. I'm looking forward to the races this weekend, one of my favorite 710 00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:16.480 days. Thanks for d for helping you guys. Don't you guys are into 711 00:49:16.559 --> 00:49:21.280 racing right or I always watch? Yeah, Samy Night spoke about it. 712 00:49:21.320 --> 00:49:23.639 A lot of Sammi's into it. I liked your picks because they look a 713 00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:28.800 lot like mine. Uh. And then when Ilse say anything else of baseball 714 00:49:28.840 --> 00:49:31.760 tonight softball, you said, yeah, they're gonna be uh. Are they 715 00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:36.199 in Stanford? Yeah, Oh, it's that next weekend. Next week they 716 00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:40.480 started. I think it's Thursday, Thursday through Sunday, AC twelve tournaments softball. 717 00:49:40.639 --> 00:49:44.840 Oh okay, that's when they started the tournament at Stanford. I believe 718 00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:47.000 it's at at Stanford. And see how they do maybe get to the tournament 719 00:49:47.559 --> 00:49:52.199 in uh at the world, you know the world. So it's gonna be 720 00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:55.440 a lot of people forget you have a second all time in softball championships. 721 00:49:55.599 --> 00:49:59.079 Yeah, I believe they have that too. Has been a while, it's 722 00:49:59.639 --> 00:50:05.079 seven too. Does it seem well, seventeen years you guys were just kids, 723 00:50:05.360 --> 00:50:08.199 little kids. Does it seem like a long time ago. I'm asking 724 00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:12.320 for a friend, you know, asking for a Yeah. Yeah, it's 725 00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:15.199 been a while. So when people say Arizonta hasn't been to the Final four 726 00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:21.000 since two thousand and one, come on, one, you probably were not 727 00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:22.440 even you were not even born, that was it. So everyone's saying, 728 00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:24.840 oh, it's just like yesterda. No it's not. No, it's not. 729 00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:29.400 It's been a while, and there's been a couple of years that I've 730 00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:32.360 seen where we thought we could go, of course, and probably not realistically 731 00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:37.320 until since the Wisconsin days. Yeah, no, it hasn't felt that way 732 00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:44.280 since the Wisconsin game games. What do you think the most under or disappointing 733 00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:50.239 u of a team that you've watched has been O, that's tough. I 734 00:50:50.280 --> 00:50:53.480 definitely thought that Tommy's first year they could have gone farther. I think we 735 00:50:53.599 --> 00:50:57.679 just with and Mather and and all. I think I think that was a 736 00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:00.920 solid, solid group that was kind of simwhere to what football has They had 737 00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:06.199 a brotherhood with a new code. But they did run into a pretty good 738 00:51:06.199 --> 00:51:09.599 Houston team. Sometimes sometimes the other team is better and that and that team 739 00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:13.920 went to the final four. Yeah, right, and Arizona just didn't know 740 00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:16.679 what hit him? What about what about the Buffalo team? I don't know 741 00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:24.159 how old you were then saying with Ayton Trier and h o Alkins, I 742 00:51:24.840 --> 00:51:28.599 didn't believe in that team. I believe more in marketing team. Yeah the 743 00:51:28.760 --> 00:51:31.400 year before, Yeah, yeah, I believe I thought that team. That's 744 00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:34.639 a good point. That's a good point because the team that we talked about 745 00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:38.039 with with marketing and not marketing, Ayton Trier, that was kind of like 746 00:51:38.039 --> 00:51:44.360 a that was like a year very much. So you don't know, and 747 00:51:44.440 --> 00:51:47.000 I said this earlier. You knew that they didn't like each other. There 748 00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:51.519 was one ball. Three dudes that wanted the ball because they wanted a pool 749 00:51:51.519 --> 00:51:52.920 that could play in the league, and only one of them could play in 750 00:51:52.920 --> 00:51:55.960 the league, and that was Ayton. You know, Trier had a couple 751 00:51:57.000 --> 00:51:59.599 of coffee, made some money. I thought he was a good score. 752 00:51:59.639 --> 00:52:04.039 But yeah, the ball dominant guy, ball dominant guy. And then the 753 00:52:04.119 --> 00:52:07.519 league guess what. That's the last thing you didn't want to be because it's 754 00:52:07.559 --> 00:52:10.480 to share the league, share the ball league. Hit it on the head. 755 00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:15.360 Yeah, that's why the Timberwolves are in the second round. Mm hmm 756 00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:19.639 yeah, no, no, And they gotta they gotta star a couple of 757 00:52:19.639 --> 00:52:22.320 star players to play well together. Okay, guys, thanks a bunch. 758 00:52:22.559 --> 00:52:27.320 I'll see you tomorrow, both of you. Probably maybe J will be ready 759 00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:30.000 for for a visit. It's been two days. We'll see. He didn't 760 00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:34.480 sound good today, but good luck and we'll see everyone tomorrow.