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week's episode of Follow Vans. The original air date on this one is April
the eleventh, nineteen fifty and the title is the Nylon Murder Case. Yeah
ba show that gets excited that. Oh why don't you both stop? I
won't have your two fighting, you understand, Yeah, only why you brought
her in with us? I'll never know. There must be so many things
you never know, dearie whapick only loom. There she goes again, starting
in I had that phony accent and that phony blonde hair. The girl Caros.
Now that's enough, both of you. Listen to me. She's such
a Doris. Yeah, you know, I like the way you've been operating.
Why thanks, you look good, you talk good, and you've managed
to crash a lot of society parties. It paid off. Well, well,
we've been able to fence the stuff you've left at, Doris. But
what do we get for it? Oh? Ye, half of what?
It's worse. Well, so let's skip that kind of petty stuff. What
are we doingstead, I've got something big on the fire, very big.
That's the reason you imported this. I sure wish she leap pole LOOMI a
lot now, Doris. I've told you. I'm sorry, Grace, but
look, let me do one more job, will you. What's that?
There's a blonde man cope belonging to a Missus Williams that I want by myself.
It'll be a cinch to grab. And I wanted missus Marilyn Williams.
That's right. Oh, you can never get into her house. Why it's
guarded better than fort No, I've got away all right to try it?
Okay, go ahead, show, go ahead. Maybe you'll get caught and
then Grace and I wouldn't be bothered with you all that, did it?
Grace? What's she doing here? Oh? Is she? And what do
we need this baby faced dame for Taylor? Grace? Doris? Yeah,
this baby faced dame is Sally Joe Russell. What I've told you that we
were going to branch out and we're going to need her. I brought it
here because she's wanted, not by me, no, now, not by
you, by the police for murder. All right, come on, come
on, what are you waiting for. Let's get this traffic moving, Get
that car over, no parking on the street. Hey, hey lady,
look out, look out. All right, all right, let me throw
here, let me throw this hurt pretty bad, oh shore, I guess
I'll take care of her. She ran right in front of your car and
short, Yeah, I couldn't help hit her. I stopped shar No,
I know. All right, Back up, everybody. I'm gonna carry this
girl into that big house there and phone for an ambulance. All right,
all right, back up, give me someone room. I'm coming through.
Yes, I know you know? Do you? That's fine? You know
what's that supposed to do? Make me happy? I don't know? You
know, you don't know. Fine satisfaction I'm getting from you, your district
attorney, fighting crime as you're responsible. I'm only responsible for saying that guilty
individuals are convicted. I don't trade words with me. Markham, I've got
connections, good political connections, as you well know. Yes, I've been
victimized. All my friends have been victimized. There's a well organized gang of
thieves operation. You're doing nothing about it. I want something done. Yes,
I know you do. Well, then do something about it. Or
you're here about it? Goodbye? Do something about it just like that?
Fine? Fine, well that's speaking. This is Markham Vans. Oh well,
my friend, things can't be that bad. That is a matter of
opinion. I'm having some pressure to put on me, and I don't know
exactly what to do about it. Can I help listen? Vance? Yes,
there's been a series of robberies of socially prominent people in this city.
Generally, furs, jewelry and any cash lying around have been taken. Yes,
the robberies, in most cases have taken place while parties were going on.
According to my information, it's possible that one or several of the female
guests are part of an organized gang. Can you do anything about this?
Vance? You certainly haven't given me too much to work on. I've never
stopped you before as it bother you. Now. On the contrary, it
gives me added incentive that's good. You seem to think a female gang is
operating. Well, then the idea for me is to lam all I can
say Vans is happy. Shea Shane likeness coat, Grace. Ye, get
a look at the bag. Pretty dark I always wanted too good? But
whoever's wearing it? If you asked me, and nobody's asked to Southern,
I've been a lot of you before you get started. Okay, we've got
some things to talk over. Hu. Look, Doris, Yeah, I
let you pull that job where you got the coat, but from now on,
no more working solo. Well, I thought I did a pretty clever
job. I pretended to get hit by a car, was carried into missus
William's house, and then while the cop was phoning for an ambulance, I
grabbed the coat and went out the French windows. Seems to me the cop
could describe you pretty well. But of co's what would little o me?
No, he Lito, you would now nothing. Kept my arm over my
face when he carried me into the house. I wore a blond wig.
Oh fine description he'll be able to give. Oh you probably did something stupid,
darling, Grace. I've taken all I can from this name. I'm
gonna tear apot little by back on the trap. Oh, let go all
right out, that's my name on our face, you little I ever get
this gun out of my bag? Over there? Y you that gun?
No there, all right now, both of you, I said, stopping,
I mean stop. She trying to kill me, she trying to shop
me. I'm gonna stand there and get scalped all right. No, I
won't have any more of this fix. You're gonna stop once and for all,
because we've got a job to do. Job all three of us are
needed for. Yeah, and it's a big job, the biggest we've ever
tried. Now listen to me. I'll listen, Grace. But are you
sure you and I couldn't do this job alone? Oh? How many more
times do I have to push these pedals? Please continue, Missus Williams.
It is excellent for the kid you already I can see an improvement. I'm
tired push these pedals, knowing no places and my idea of fun. Oh
oh, give me a massage, Floretta. Yes, Missus Williams, if
you will come over here to the table and lie down, best suggesting you've
made all day? Ah that is fine. No, I cover you with
this shit and I work on your shoulders first. Mm hmmm mm hm ah,
hand me that box of chocolates, Florette. Oh but missus Williams,
you'll figure I've got to give you something to work off, don't I chocolates?
Please? Well? Are you? Thank you? Good? Mm hmm.
I wonder if the police found that girl told my fur coat we were
the third. I'm sure try. Oh who could that? I find out?
I will be right that I have to hurry on my account. I'm
enjoying my shof Well who watch it? For it? I do not know
yet? Yes whoa man outside? His name is Final Events. The butler
told him you appear, so he came up again Final Events. M He
is private investigator. He read about your coat being stolen, and he wishes
to talk to you about it. Oh yes, my damn coming by all
men, m coming along, Missus Williams. I'm violent. How do you
doing, mister vern chocolate? No? Thank you? You don't mind if
I go right ahead, Missus Williams, your for a coulte was stolen.
A woman affaked an accident was carried in here, and she took the cold
and disappear while the policeman was calling for an ambulance. You're ready about newspapers?
Yes? Will you tell me what the woman looked like? I'm the
slightest sure. Policeman tied her into my room, left her there to make
the phone call. By time he came to tell me I had company,
she she had vanished. I see, I thought perhaps you might be of
some help, but apparently I was wrong. I'm sure. How can I
get to something to make up for her? Oh? Thank you very much.
I have my massages at the club. Oh, venture is something I
didn't tell the police, and maybe you'd like to know. Yes, No,
a woman, whoever she was, took a pair of stocking, as
it belonged to me. In addition to the coat, she left a souvenir
one torn stocking of her own. She left one stocking here. Well,
I'll have Floretta get it for you if you like it. Rip, but
it might mean something to you. It's certainly mike, missus Williams. When
she left her one stocking, our thief made her one mistake. Sit down,
advance, glad to see you, Thank you, Markam. I dropped
in to report a little progress in the case you asked me to work on.
How little very at the moment. But look at this stocking here all
right, looks just like a stocking to me, it's ripped. But what's
its supposed to tell me? I'll tell you what it tells me. It
will help me describe the girl who stole Missus Williams fur coat, and who
might well be part of the gang that you're looking for. Please go ahead
and do your describing. The girl is slender, tall, particularly fastidious about
her clothes, as a disciplined mind, and as a brunette. I believe
you know that from this stocking it's true. Notice the length of the stocking
marker man beside, yes, it's marked eleven. That's very large. Indicates
the wearer had a large foot. And so I believe she's tall. And
what's this about being fastidious in her dress? She took the time to steal
a pair of stockings from Missus William's room, even though she was in a
hurry to get out, because she didn't want to be seen on the street
with a ripped stocking. Uh huh? And why is she a brunette?
Because the policeman who picked her up said she was a blonde. The woman
was careful to shield her face. The blonde hair was obviously used as a
decoy. I agree with everything so far, But you claim she has a
well disciplined mind. Yes, how can you possibly say that? The fact
that she left only the ripped stocking at missus William's house, Markham, she
took with her the other stocking she was wearing what good will one stocking?
Door? And how does that explain that she had an orderly and well trained
mind. I'll let you know as soon as I know whether I'm right or
not. At the moment, I'm going to see whether or not I can
find her. And only one thing disturbs me about that, and that is
I haven't the slightest idea where to look. Well, Doris, that's a
very pretty fire, don't you think if you like fires? Beautiful fire I
haven't seen. I did a modifying job, not I'll never get it under
control. Would you like to know why I think it's a pretty fire?
No? Especially I have a pretty good idea you have now? Who will
ever guess it? Sally someday? Why don't you both stop? This is
no time for fighting. We should be celebrating. Why that fire means we're
out of the pennyandy business of stealing furs and jewelry and selling them the fences.
Oh, we're in a new business, a big business, the three
of us, crazy darling. Like I said once before when you mentioned the
three of us, it always occurs to lead the door, including one two
minutes. This is just your attorney, Markham. The case we're working on
Cancerns, a series of robberies and wealthy homes done, we believe, by
a group of women. Final Vans is working on case, but his only
result so far is a description he has of one of the members of the
gang. The description obtained from a ripped nylon stocking. The last day or
so is resulted in no new developments. The gang is still active, we
believe, although we don't know how or where it might be. Yes,
sir mister Apple will see you now, miss No, thank you. You
wait here, Sallie showing up, Grace. I'll wait right here, honey,
I've got me a magazine and all. Oh hello, mister Raban,
come in, come in. She's done all right, well as our enterprise
concluded. Successfully, Oh yes, yes, quite good fire, very good
fire, glad you liked it. Now there remains only one little detail,
a matter. Oh judge just a momently, yes, will you want anything
more tonight, mister Rabbot? I know you can leave now if you like.
Thank you, good night, good night, my secretary. So I
imagine, mister Rabbett, I was about to say that there remained only one
detail of that little job we did for you. You gave us a deposit.
We set the fire, you'll collect the insurance. Now we want our
money. Twenty thousand was the balance was in? Oh no, don't get
cute. Is there something you think you might do a body if I refuse
to pay you the rest of the money, don't forget you committed the crime
you arranged for me to do it. Yes, I wonder how you'd ever
prove that good day? I said, good day? Just wait one moment,
would you please, mister Abbott? What do you want me to wait
for? You'll find out? Sally, ya come in here a minute?
Will you shown up? Wi you? What is it? Hi? Sally?
Yeah? Yes, mister Abbott doesn't think he has to pay us the
money he promised for setting the fire. Oh he doesn't convince him, Sally,
Oh look here neither of you can threaten me. I could put you
both a gun. I don't think he's convinced. Sally, he's talking about
putting us in jail. He is well at Claire, wasn't he the silliest
man. Abbot's office was on the second floor of this building. Vance it's
easier to walk up and wait for the elevator. It's fine with me,
Marcolm. You've been shot twice e and the cleaning woman found him dead.
That's right. Our homicide department checked with his secretary, but after telling us
that there were two women in the office when she left, and mentioning some
other minor details, she got hysterical. All I hope is that one of
the girls fits the description I gave you, Markholm, the one I got
from the ripped nylon stocking vans. This is one of the few times you
were completely wrong. Of course, it's possible the two women in the office
had nothing to do with our gang of of that matter, with the shooting.
But neither of them, according to the secretary, looked even remotely like
the woman you described. That's nice and complicating, if not exactly complimentary.
One thing more, Markham did the secretary know either of the two women in
the office. No, And here's a strange thing. She said they were
obviously there by appointment, but she never called them. Yeah, let's go
ahead, Hello Collins, Hello Colins, mister Vans, and I want to
go into mister Abbot's private office. Well, Grid ahead, day and the
body has been removed, but nothing's been touched. The homicide men left everything
the wad world by the puzzled expression Vans, the women were here by appointment,
but the secretary didn't make the appointment, and means something might I want
to take a look at Abbott's desk there it is what are you looking for?
A book with telephone numbers? Private phone numbers? If there is such
a thing, and there certainly should be there generally is. Yes, here
we are the book, but it seems should be blinking. Wait a minute,
as you were going through those pages, I thought I saw some writing
toward the middle of the book. Go backab would your Van's answer? I
hope you're right. It might be a very important thing if you were their
Vans right there on that page. Oh yes, five phone numbers, no
names or addresses, just five numbers. Well, what do we do now?
Now we do two things, Markham. We call every one of those
numbers, and we hope one of them will lead us to those two women.
Wait a minute, well, who are you? Hello? My name
is Vance Final Vans. May I come? Thank you? What do you
want some information? May I sit down? Thank you? You are taken
awful for granted? Yes, don't I Your name is Grace Dolling, isn't
it? I found your phone number? Do you think there's a reward for
returning it? The only reward I expect is satisfaction, I think. Oh
company, come in please. My name is Vance. I'm glad to see
you, very glad, tall, dark, slimber, very well dressed.
Oh what's with this individual? Grace? What does he want? I don't
know, but I'm going to find out fast. Now. Look, you
forced yourself in here? Was yourself to leave off killer? Sally? I
don't. We've got company. I don't care who we got to get her
going over? She'll never we'll forever more. How are you? Oh sir?
Well that was a quick transition if ever I saw one. He look,
Vance, don't make me get tough. Oh this is my house.
You've got no right here? I good sir, you out and be perfectly
justified. You know that, don't you. I also know you're big enough
to do it. I'd hate to think you mean anything personal in that remark.
You are a hats right there on the table. Vance, goodbye.
Sorry your visit was so short and uneventful. Don't be silly, miss Dilling.
I got everything I came here for. How are you making out with
that window? Vance? I can handle it. I think the trick is
to do it without making too much noise. All three of the women are
downstairs. I know we saw them through the window. I got down here
as soon as I could out to your phone me. This window would squeak,
wouldn't I don't think anybody heard it. Go on into the room,
Vance as while I was shaking. I'm practically yeah, yeah, come on
in, Marcom. I'll give you a hand. There we are made it.
Here's a flash by Vance. All the beam of the dress a drawer
that's at Markham. Now, if we're in the right room, the room
of the girl called Doris, this case is almost over. This is her
room, all right. There are a couple of letters to Doris tailor this
address. There's a single bed in the room, so she stays here alone.
I'm proud of you, Markham. Now look for some stockings. Stockings,
Yes, they won't be in this drawer. What's in this box?
It looks like the stocking box my wife has at home. That's what it
is. I told you the girl had a well disciplined mind. Stocking box
proves it. Six pair of stockings, Markham, None of them knew and
all of them rolled up. This roll looks larger to me than the others.
That's what I was hoping to find. Unroll at Markham and you'll find
three stockings, not two. Well, that doesn't prove these girls are the
ones we're looking for, but it's enough to set the stage for a little
scene I think you'll enjoy. Doris, you know good double Cross and Dane.
This is the time you get it. Get out of my room,
Sally, get out, but you'll stay in here permanently. Look at this,
No, look at it. What's that in your other hand. It's
a knife, sweetheart, and it's gonna be all yours in a minute.
So you were gonna tip the cops off to me? Were you too?
You're gonna tell him I killed Abbott? What are you talking about? Stop
playing innocent? A kid brought this note back, said somebody in his house
gave it to him to take the headquarters. He described you crazy kid said
he lost the car fare you gave and came back for more. I saw
the note was addressed to the cops, so I opened it and read it.
I never wrote any letter. This is a trick. That's your story.
Grace isn't here to protect you. Now. This is the last stop
for you. Kid. You get off right here, You get away from
me. Don't come nit me with that knife. You would ride on the
whole set up. Would you tell him all about you and me and Grace
and the jobs we pulled and try and cop up? Please so they go
easy on you. I didn't I tell you. Sure, that's what you
say. Okay, I'll play your way. Go ahead, break up the
house, keep throwing lamps. I'll remember that. Do you can't walk back
much further, Doris, this is something I wanted to do for a low
Oh my hair, you nick do hair me? Would you show you kill
hire your stop it? Oh Markholm, there are two thirds of the beginning.
When Grace comes back, we'll pick her up and then I'll tell you
how a stocking gave this young lady away, or, in other words,
how the host turned on her. To begin with Markholm. When Doris left
Missus William's house, she took with her one stocking. You want to know
why, I certainly do. That's the general idea of this, isn't it?
After all? The case is over. I have my confessions. Grace
and her gang not only killed Abbott but were responsible for all those society robberies.
Now tell me about this Doris. You remember I said she had a
well disciplined mind. Yes, she was in a hurry at Missus William's house,
but she remembered to take the one good stocking with her. Why.
That's where I came in on it. Why remember, because she had another
pair the same shade and quality at her house. Most women buy two pair
of stockings of the same shade and quality, so that if anything happens to
one stocking, they have a pair and a replacement for that pair. Ollo.
Yes, yes, I do know. Doris thought of that, even
when she was in a hurry to leave a William's house with Missus Williams for
a coat. Right now, we get on a little further, we found
five numbers in Abbott's book. You called all five. Found a legitimate connection
between Abbot and four of the numbers. So I went to call on the
name and address of the fifth. I know you did, But what happened
there that let you set the trap? I found there was a big feud
going on between Doris and Sallie New Doris wasn't at Abbot's office. The secretary
didn't describe her, remember, So I thought of the note idea, hired
a neighborhood boy and told him what story to tell Sally when he brought the
note back to the house who wrote that note, My secretary Ellen got a
big kick out of it too. Well. I guess there's nothing more to
tell you, Marcolm, except that finding that third nylon and dr stocking box
after you and I climbed in the window confirmed my theories. We were there
later when Sally brought in Ellen's note. That's right, you actually broke the
case. After we got to the top of the ladder. Yes, after
we got to the top of the ladder, we came to the end of
the nylon murder case. Welcome back. There are a number of things I
have to say about this episode. First of all, let's just be clear
that in committing breaking and entering, Vance literally called the da over to hold
the ladder to be his accomplice. I mean, this type of thing is
not beneath or typical radio private Eye. But maybe give the district attorney a
little bit of plausible deniability by not directly involving him in your crimes. I
did find it curious that Vance was sure that the thief was a brunette because
she had been wearing a blonde wig. Don't redheads exist in this world?
Or are they just so rare in the Filo Vans universe that it's not even
considered because redheads make up two percent of the population. Although Fillo Vans isn't
the only crime show to pretend that the choice in hair is blonde or brunette,
which is kind of a weird approach. As much as I hate to
agree with Sally, she did have a point. What exactly did Doris add
to the new Arson for Higher business model? I guess I've Arson for Hire
has probably never been described as a business model, But be that as it
may, Grace was the one who made the contacts and made the plans,
and Sally was the person who set the fires and was the gun toting psychopathic
enforcer. There's no practical job in this for Doris, for presence, just
sets up cat fights between her and Sally. Well that plus, I guess
having three people involved makes it same for like a gang than two, although
you know, as I look into it, there's not a numerical limit on
how many members you have to have to have a criminal gang. But my
position is if you don't have enough criminals to play a bridge game, you
don't really have a gang. You have three gals up to no good,
not an organized gang. As Markham said, and speaking of Markham, it
was interesting to have him acknowledge what his appropriate role was, which is prosecuting
criminals. But it seems in that conversation with the citizen that he was trying
to have it both ways. If you're going to be the district attorney that
micromanages every single homicide investigation or any major crime investigation, you can't complain when
prominent citizens lean on you for action and pretend that, oh, I'm just
a district attorney. I don't actually do anything other than prosecute another thing.
I actually think that Sally as this Southern bell guntoting psychopath wasn't interesting idea.
They made a weird decision in having her not actually be a Southern Bell but
the accent be a fake. And this is something I think that we talked
about it way back in the Rumba murder case, where sometimes this show has
people use fake accents for no reason. It might make sense for her to
use a fake accent around Filo Vans, around her own criminal associates. It
doesn't make a like a sense. However, on a positive note, I
do want to praise missus Williams credo when she was talking to her trainer and
offered the reason for eating chocolates that she needed something for her trainer to burn
off. I think that is a perfectly reasonable eplanation and a lot of us
can identify with it. All right, listener comments and feedback now, and
we have a comment from Stephen who writes, my wife sometimes listens to my
podcast in the background. As soon as they discovered the body, she said,
the secretary did it. I told her the secretary hadn't been given a
motive. I then told her how I thought the murder was committed. A
few minutes later, I had to tell her I was wrong. Markham had
just suggested my solution, and Markham is never right. Markham and I were
wrong about the method and my wife was right about the killer. Well,
thanks so much, Stephen. As much as I like to dunk on Markham,
the fact is, even when you have a solid side character, whether
you're talking about Watson from Sherlock Holmes or Mark Donovan from Frank Race or Brooksie
from What George did It? Or fill Us from Michael Shane, anytimes some
character who is not the detective suggest your solution, you know that you were
wrong because they're not the star of the show. But what exception to this
are those programs that tried to be smarter by having the police be right from
the beginning. Sometimes, yeah, when you hear your solution from the side
character, you know that that is generally not it. Then we have a
comment from Mark on YouTube who writes, thank you for all you've done for
me as I'm approaching seventy and wouldn't know facebook from Tick Tacto. Well,
thank you so much, Mark. Then there's a comment, this one was
left on the Twicehold Tale episode. Thank you for sharing this I never want
these recordings to be forgotten. It's such a window into the past on so
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Final Evans, but join us back here tomorrow for the final three parts of
the Henderson Matter, where counters with the Adjustment Agency. Yeah you see,
mister dollars like this. I've been over in Jackson Hole for five days now
hunting duck. We were way in and I didn't hear about Henderson's death until
I got back yesterday. Ah. Now, oh, look, mister Dollar,
I don't know what reflection this will have on your attitude toward this case.
But two days before I left, mister Henderson telephoned me here in Great
Falls. He said he wanted to change the beneficiary on his policy. In
other words, he was going to cut his wife out. Yes, I
suppose, so I know they weren't getting along. They'd been talk of divorce,
yes, I guess. So. Huh did he name a new beneficiary?
Yes, a school teacher and culver name until the Knickerbocker. Everybody calls
her Maddie. What was his connection with her? None that I know of.
I think it was just a name from the throw in until he could
decide on another beneficiary. Or why he didn't have Mannie Knickerbark just a school
teacher. Everybody knows her. He was awful mad when he talked to me
that day. I could tell it in his voice. Now here's what might
interest you just a little more. The day I left in my hunting trip,
mister Henderson phoned me again. He said, to never mind, missus
Henderson was still his beneficiary. Had you changed the policies yet? No?
Are you sure it was Henderson a telephone? I think it was him.
Do you remember when you got the call? Somewhere around noon? A little
later. I guess he died between twelve thirty and one. It must have
been just before he fell out the window. He phoned your long distance from
cover. Yes, or well. He was supposed to have been in the
hotel all morning, so he had to phone from his room. But you
can check that, can't you. She'd be surprised how hard it is to
check simple things like that around the Beaute Hotel. Did you know Henderson very
well, mister Thurber, He was a customer. I wrote a lot of
insurance for him now his wife? Oh yes, I hope you'll be with
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