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Well for our second listener support special,

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we have something really different and it's
what I'm calling a little bit of mystery

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audio. This audio is all over
the internet in several places as Sam Spade,

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First Night or spoof. But what
exactly is it? Where exactly did

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it come from? Was it broadcast
on air? When was it recorded?

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Answers are really hard to find.
So we're going to play it and we're

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going to talk about what we can
to douce about it. Now, I

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will warn you that there are a
couple of minor swear words, which itself

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may be a clue, but we'll
talk about that afterwards. But listener discretion

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is advised. All right, so
let's listen to this bit of audio and

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see what we can figure out.
It's the Sam Spade First Night or spoof

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Campanna's First Night, or program from
the Little Theater off Times Square, starring

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Barbara Bloody and Olin Soule, with
an all star cast sent to you by

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Campanna, the quality name in cosmetic. It's thet or time on Broadway,

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and tonight we're to witnessed the biggest
defense on the Great White Way, the

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premier of a brand new play in
the Little Theater off Times Square. There'll

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be plenty of excitement too, because
the opening night performance is the crucial one,

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the evening when the public and the
critics say yes or no, the

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plays bid for success. And now
here's our hosts for the evening, the

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genial first night, the evening,
Ladies and gentlemen. I'm just in the

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mood for a gay Broadway premiere this
evening. Are you all right? Here's

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my cab, won't you step in? Okay? Driver to the Little Theater

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up Broadway across forty second Street,
tat of the glare and glamor of the

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dazzling lights that give the Great White
Way its famous name. And now up

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ahead is the little theater off Times
Square. Well we are, isn't that

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beautiful creature over there? Dorothy McQuire, someone saying Governor Huey's hidden at your

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ticket. Pready a date at your
ticket? Ready? Please, good evening,

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mister first nighter the eshol Shade,
thank you will go right here.

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Yes, indeed, ladies and gentlemen, this is a fact house tonight,

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because word is out that this evening's
play is a comedy that no one wants

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to miss. And from the looks
of the first night is crowding inside the

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theater. Everyone is here to enjoy
it. The famous first Night are orchest

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first being conducted to night by Frank
Worth. And now the house lights are

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about to gim so let's prepare to
enjoy ourselves. Curtain, first curtain.

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There's a signal for first curtain.
The house lights are out, and here's

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the play, The Adventures of Sam
Spade, Detective than Detective Agency, shame

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wise freethart f where have you been
for two games? If you please speak

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shortly and start clapping your gun like
a cannon. Oh, I'm about your

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Sam. Are you working on something
big? The biggest in town? At

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my head your whole stop, but
you try to kill me. I am

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in a state known as a New
Year's Eve hangover. Not to be confused

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with any evil taper. I made
the mistake of trying to stand a drink,

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but drink with everybody in the place, White Sam, not a week

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aroo, Well, we all wanted
to get a head start. For two

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days now, I've been lying in
an insensible state, drinking from a hose

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I fashioned to the water post.
I have so much water in me now

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I will shortly appear on the new
maps as lake speed. Don't will teach

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you the evils the drinking. I've
already made plans to take the plants on

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my way to the office. Every
so turn off the radiant of the planks,

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muffle anything that makes the slattest noise, smash all my drinking, parapherna

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you with your souvenir, Carrie Nation
hatchet, and then only then I appear

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to dictate my version of the Magic
Castle. Dashel Hammett, I'm ICA's leading

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detective picture writer and creator of Sam
Spade, The hard Boiled Private Eye,

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joins with Howard Deff and Lorene Huddle
to make your hair stand on end with

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the adventures of Sam's spade O take
my army, effy or a doll,

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but I'll make a solo. I
need the practice. Sam. I didn't

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wake up your drinking equipment. I
thought maybe the hair of the dog.

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That wouldn't help at all. If
the only time, and Mother Nature and

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her infinite mercy and deliver me.
Now that's your cheer. Squeaking sounded like

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thunder. Put some free in one
oil on it, no double it,

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make it to six and food.
Tell me all about it, Sam,

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I will, I will my fet
as quickly as I can. I have

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to get back to my apartment.
Are you ready ready? Sam? Dude?

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Detective Lie Son of Dundee, Homicide
d fail from Samuel spate Less number

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one, three, seven, five, nine six, subject built Larshan,

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Dear Dundee, this is not a
caper wherein I was a great detective.

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I will admit that from the beginning, but I wound up becoming one of

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the world's great magicians. The Magic
Castle is the famous private club for magicians

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nestled in the hills overlooking Hollywood.
It was half past eight I heard of

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How could that be? Well,
maybe it's a telephone company checking the line.

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Yeah, Samuel space being as your
dollar. This is the first letter.

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I'm don't hear the Little Theater off
Times Square, and I've got a

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problem, can you And if you
come down here right away, mister First

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Nighter where three thousand miles from Broadway, Why well, never mind, hold

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on to your hat. Through the
magic of radio, fie and I will

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be right there. It doesn't take
long. Here we are, Effie.

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Oh dear, what are they doing? Well? It looks like they're about

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the rehearse the opening of the First
Nighter program. Listen in the later time

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and Broadway buzzing with holiday excitement and
eagerly awaiting the welcome an opening night performance

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at the Little Theater off Times Square, starring Less Fermaine and Barbara Letty.

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There'll be a crowd of onlookers and
autograph fans on hand at the entrance to

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greet the celebrities who always attend the
premiere on the Great White Way. So

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let's not miss a minute to the
excitement. Shally, will you join me?

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There are lots of uniforms in the
crowds of night at Broadway and forty

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second Street. Shall the crowd the
street here well here we are at a

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little theater off Times Square. Have
your tickets ready, plea, have your

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tickets ready at me pretty ending,
mister First Night, y Asher will show

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you to your box. And mister
first Nighter, mister first minor, isn't

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this the stop where the first Nighter
is supposed to? Read this line?

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It sure is? Where is he? I'm right here, Sam, Hello,

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Weppy. I'm so glad you got
here. Read this this note,

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I guess not. Yes, yes, they're gonna kill me. They're after

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me, save me, help me, Sam, and not. Please be

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calm mister first Nighter. Mister momnolomy
reader, nothing you can do can save

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you. You will be killed a
night at midnight, just before your show

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begins midnight, and it's nineteen minutes
to twelve miles. Don't let him kill

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me. I'm too young to dodge. That's how old are you, mister

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First Night? Eighty six? Well, eighty six going on eighty seven.

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I hope, well, I hope
so too. Now this should be very

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easy to solve. It reminds me
of a case we had a year ago.

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Last sponsor or was it a sponsor
before that? Oh yeah, yeah,

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yeah, I remember it's a late
autumn night. I had a client

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just like you, fourteen minutes to
Turne's feller got a note that he was

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going to be killed at nine o'clock. My note says twelve o'clock. Wow,

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this is specific coast time for the
repeat broadcast. Home. When this

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man called me about the note,
we took every precaution. We bolted the

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doors, barricaded the windows. We
had police on every foot of ground around

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the apartment, police dogs, electric
eyes, burglar alarms. Every precaution known

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to criminology was taken to see that
this man would not be killed by nine

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o'clock. Oh good, What happened, Sam? What happened to the man

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he was killing? But not until
ten o'clock we'd all gone home. We

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were all dead and tired. He
was dead and we were tigered. I'm

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Sam, I don't know which way
to turn. I called every detective like

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a pink boat. Why aren't they
here? There's someone now, twelve minutes

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left? Yes, yes, come
in my time? Is your time happen?

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My first time? You're not infective? Get out of here. Excuse

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me? Mister. Firston, I
find Casey crying for tiger. Hold it

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thank you. What part in the
morning gets fresh? Flea casey, will

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you do something? They're gonna kill
me at midnight? Midnight? Can't wait

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for midnight? We got a press
at once. Paint it light on the

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floor. I'll take one more.
Well, I don't want to lie down

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on the floor. I'm gonna be
killed at midnight. There's somebody else at

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the door. Who is it?
I am Charny Ken Chinese detective hey Age

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has said, no job too big, No jobs too small. That's the

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trouble. No job. How do
you do? Mister Chan? I am

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Sam Spade, Life number one three
seventy five nine six. And this is

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happy, my my right hand happy. This is Charlie Chan, the man

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who helps the police solve all those
difficult crimes by brilliant deductions. Oh yes,

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I know, but isn't it strange
that he's never been able to lose

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his accent? Please it's eight minutes
to midnight. My life is at stake.

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This note, I god knowe what
the not? The note threatening my

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life? Missus Spade has it their
chant? Have a look? What are

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you making it? Nothing can help
You'll die at midnight? So who's empty?

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Who said it? Who said it? I don't know, don't know

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who's empty, no date, no
signature. Oh come come, mister person.

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Exactly what I told him, saying, if people must get threatening letters,

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the least they can do is suppliers
with some cluer of it. They

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make it too hard for a cop. It is not easy being a cop

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us, I'm sure it is.
Everybody puts you down. How's it going,

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Dick Tracy? How many Jaywalkers did
you pins? Today? And there's

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always the one who refuses to believe
you're not on the take all at once.

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You're a cop, a flatfoot,
a bull, John Law, you're

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the funds, the heat, you're
poison, your trouble, you're bad news.

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They called you everything, but never
a policeman. Oh the pay is

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addequate. If you count your pennies, you can put your kids through college.

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But you better plan on seeing Europe
on your television set. You rub

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elbows with all the elite addicts,
thieves, bums, liars, cheats,

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con men, the class of skid
row, underfed kids, beating your kids,

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bolested kids, broken armed kids,
broken lake kids, broken head kids,

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sick kids, dying kids, and
dead kids. For every crimes committed

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you get three million suspects to choose
from. Most of the time you'll have

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few facts and a million hunches.
You'll do legwork and said you're sure.

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You've talked to everybody in the city. People who saw it happen but really

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didn't, people who insist they did
but really didn't, people who remember,

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those who try to forget, those
who tell the truth, and those who

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lie in the paperwork. You'll fill
out a report when you're right. You'll

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fill out a report when you're wrong. You'll fill out one when you're not

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sure. You'll fill out one listing
all your leaves. You'll make out a

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report on the reports you made.
You'll learn to live with a district attorney,

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testify in court, the prince,
attorneys, prosecuting attorneys, judges,

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juries, witnesses. Sometimes you won't
be happy with the outcome. But there's

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also this. There are over three
thousand men in a city who know that

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being a policeman is an endless,
glamorless thankless job. It must be done.

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I know it too, That's what
a cop is. Well, one

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thing is for sure, What's that
I'll never asked that question again. Seven

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minutes to go. Well, this
is becoming credit gathering of the crime plan.

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Come in my time? Is your
time, I'll get out of here.

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I'm just getting late. You bet
to solve this case. Yes,

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extreme minutes to twelve, and I'm
worried. Do something for me, Do

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something and save me. Yes,
who is it? Come in? I

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am the wires and I know many
things for I walked by night. You're

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just insigne. Jeff, you dive
of murder. Don't rush me. I

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still got two minutes. What's the
whistler doing here? You must know the

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writers on this show, No,
detective, you don't even know. We

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have to walk in the daytime.
Oh oh, it's sustained, the hot

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boiled Private Eye, the James Bond
of the Supers. How are you doing,

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mister Westler houts vessels with your weird
strained stories. Oh goody, be

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rikily damn? Oh please please,
can't any of you do anything? Save

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me? Save me? They hold
Paul, Thank you, look part in

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the morning. It's friends. You
can fall out. Oh bleed? Good?

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Well, don't they be here anymore? Just a minute, Sam,

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how do we know he is?
Well, let's get a doctor. Let's

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make sure the corpus is the lectile
imbody looking for a doctor. I'm doctor,

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right, Oh, do come in
doctor r Q. What are you

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doing here? I'm looking for a
leading in the balcony where you've come to

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the right place. But we really
need a real doctor. Print I have

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silver dollars, says I'm a real
doctor. If you can repeat that to

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leave the suck Custer exactly as I
say, remember one time, and one

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time only it goes like this.
Jim is Slim, said Tim to Kim.

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Jim is slim. Tim to him, said Kim Jim. As Tim

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said Slim to Kim, Slim said
help. Oh, I'm sorry, but

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here's a box of twenty four bars
of delicious no pybat candy bars and two

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tickets for next week's production. Here
it's a little deer off time square.

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Merry Christmas, Effy, we better
check this fell on the floor. I

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think he's dead. There's a chance
you may not be, dare Effie.

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No pulse, no heartbeat, so
blood he's dead. Well. I was

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reading in Amy Vanderbilt's Book of Etiquet
that some people are quieter than others at

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social gatherings. I don't think that
this applies in this case, Effie.

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Now wait a minute, Wait a
minute, I'm not dead. I'm okay.

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But mister first Nighter, you were
shot four time. I know they

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missed me. The bullets went wild. They shot that man over there.

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Oh there is a man lying in
the floor. I think he's dead.

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I don't know it. Must roll
him over and see. Mister are you

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are you dead? Say something time? You're right after me. It's Rudy

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Valley and he's dead. Well,
Sam, you solve the chase. What

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would mister first Night who have done
with got you? Probably a hell of

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a lot better. Oh yeah,
don't be modest, Sam. Why the

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number of people who owe a dead
of gratitude for you must be must be

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without number? I know, look
at it the other way, these number

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of people whom I owe death's gratitude, and otherwise the otherwise they of course,

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cash could easily be numbered somewhere upwards. Speaking of that, this seems

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like an opportune time to bring up
last last week's sorry well, h effy

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the first Night. I should remit
me some money soon, or a horse

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I know might shock everybody in come
in, Or I might say, find

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a twenty five dollar bill on the
sidewalk, somewhere and then you will be

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graciously taken care of. First twenty
five Effie late, leave us not picking

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things. Let's get out of this. Say good night, good night,

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Sam, good night sweetheart. I
said, why did you do dollar back

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of another of visual Broadway player?
If the body and listens away a laws

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ado. If you want to hear
a truly dripping play, Bondard will hold

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you spellbound for every minute of the
performance. Junior next week for the drama

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entitled A Story Revised. Here's the
kind of play that you hear too seldom.

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So join us next week, same
time, same station, and now

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we move out of the theater and
into the streets your cab, mister,

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first natter, Thank you, good
night. Campana's First Nighter Programs starring Olden

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Soule and Barbara Loody, is a
copyrighted radio feature. Tonight's play was pure

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fiction and did not refer to real
people or actual events. The First Nighter

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Program came to you over CBS,
where ninety nine million people gather every week

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the Columbia Broadcasting System. Welcome back. All right, so let's go ahead

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and talk about this. First of
all, we should talk about the first

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Nighter Program. It's actually referenced a
lot in old time radio on other programs.

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It's one of those series that relatively
few episodes survived from its nineteen years

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on the air, plus but a
year and a half of reruns. The

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series was known for putting on original
plays every week, which may not have

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seemed like a big deal because you
have suspense and the whistler, but this

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was the first. This was a
program that paved the way for so many

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other anthology series that would follow.
Definitely revolutionary for nineteen thirty when it got

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started. Now, the first thing
we can observe with the recording is that

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there has clearly been some splicing done
by an old time radio enthusiast, adding

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the opening to the Alan Sulet version
of the First Nighter Program. And that

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makes sense since all In Soulet,
while not the first host of the First

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Nighter Program, was the mister First
Nighter from nineteen forty three on, succeeding

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Don Amici and Less Tremaine. However, in the midst of the audio we

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get another First Night or opening,
and this one references Less Tremaine as the

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star. That, of course makes
no sense if we take this as a

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recording from era Sam Spade was playing
in because Less Tremaine left the First Nighter

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Program in nineteen forty three, so
there's that. So this was not actually

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made as part of the First Nighter
Program, and I think that the ending

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and beginning were just added on by
someone who wanted to make it fit for

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whatever reason. Other possibilities include that
it was some sort of private performance,

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perhaps for a sponsor or for the
network. Does sound like the character of

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mister First Nighter. My best guest
for the voice is Harry von Zelle,

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was a famous old time radio announcer
on a whole lot of different programs,

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mainly comedy, you know, which
would be appropriate in this case. There

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are two other big internal clues.
The first is that Howard Duff does a

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version of the to be a Cop
speech from the Dragnet episode The Investigation.

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Now, this initially caused me to
wonder whether the speech might have been written

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before Dragnet, but I think there's
another clue in here where James Bond is

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reference. Now, when Sam Spade
was on the air, James Bond was

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really not a thing in the United
States, you know. On video theater

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a few years back, we played
the adaptation of Casino Royal, which featured

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the character of Jimmy Bond. I
think Bond's popularity in the United States took

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off with the Sean Connery movies in
the sixties, so this makes this a

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later performance. Another clue is found
in the title of the caper that Sam

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begins to relate to the audience's applause, and that is the Magic Castle Caper.

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The Magic Castle is a private club
for magicians as well as magic enthusiasts.

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It's located in Hollywood, and it's
a location that definitely rings a bell

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to me since I'm currently watching my
way through Bill Bixby series The Magician,

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and in the second half of the
series, Bill Bixby's character Tony Blake moves

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into an apartment in the Magic Castle, and the Magic Castle's founder, Milt

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Larson, is a known old time
radio aficionado. So what seems likely here

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is that some year on Christmas Eve, a performance was arranged at the Magic

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Castle that featured Sam Spade in a
tribute to old time radio. The Magic

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Castle opened in nineteen sixty three.
However, based on the inclosion of the

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to be a Cop speech that it
was recorded in nineteen sixty eight or after.

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Now. Of course, the nineteen
seventies may have been a perfect time

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for this to be recorded, because
that's when nostalgia for the Golden Age of

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radio really began to be a force
in popular culture that would lead to the

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revival of network radio drama in the
United States. And also in the nineteen

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seventies, neither Duff nor Lorene Tuttle
had a regular television gig. They were

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essentially at the point in their careers
where they were in demand, but it

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was as guest stars. Personally,
I probably leaned more towards the idea that

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this was recorded in nineteen sixty eight, just because the inclusion of the speech,

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well, it could have been done
later, had really hit a nerve

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in sixty eight, and I think
that that would make it far more likely

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to be included in the scrap than
if it were played several years later.

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At that time, in nineteen sixty
eight, our Duff was playing Sam Stone

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on Felony Squad, though would have
been a fitting thing to read now,

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of course, but only did Duff
have his role on Felony Squad, but

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Loreene Tuttle had a recurring and Emmy
nominated role on the series Julia as Hannah

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Yarby. However, we're talking about
a single performance for fifteen minutes on Christmas

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Eve, even with an actor's busy
schedule, this seems plausible that it could

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be worked at, though again it's
possible that it could have been later,

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though I do lean towards nineteen sixty
eight regardless, stepping away from the mystery,

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and I would imagine that this whole
thing is a private recording that somehow

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ended up getting traded into the old
time radio community and has been circulating around

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for the past forty years or so. I guess it's fascinating to me that

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Loreene Tuttle and Howard Duff had not
played these parts together for at least eighteen

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years, could have been two decades, and they just stepped right back into

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them, back a pair of comfortable
slippers. And it's a reminder that Howard

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Duff and Loreene Tuttle were truly talented
radio performers, and any performance with them

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together is definitely worth listening to.
Well, I would love to hear your

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thoughts. Did you catch any clues
I missed and do you think I got

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it right or is there evidence that
points in another direction? Regardless, I'd

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love to hear from you. Email
it to me Box thirteen at Great Detectives

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with another listener support special, but
coming up tomorrow. Listen for an actual

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episode of Sam Spade where you slid
into a booth at the end of the

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boat at the gun out of your
shoulder, Holsta, and laid it down

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on the table in front of you. I walked over. It's under the

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round so it was pointing at the
jukebox instead of men. Sat down.

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Some other time, Spade, some
other time, I drink with you and

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waiting for a friend. Why the
gun? You're selling it to him?

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Maybe I give it to him?
Go on, you drink at the bar.

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It's kind of crowded, looks like
Charlie Rosenfoy's old mob. Who were

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they gunning for? You were child? Why don't you ask them? What

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are you drinking? Leo? And
I was with that bottle all day,

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got a bad taste. Do me
a favorite, Spade. There's a bar

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two doors down the street. Go
drink there. There's my friend coming in

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the door. Any friend of yours
is a friend of mine, Leo.

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Look Spade, Hello, Leo,
what's the matter? You bring a bodyguard

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and meet your old friend, Charlie. This Shamas threw his weight in here.

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I didn't ask him. I don't
need him. That sounds like the

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earlier Scarlattia used. The name is
Scarlet. Pardon me. I've been on

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the rock for so long it's hard
to catch up on all the changes.

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There's been a ward, Charlie,
and tips to it again. You got

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a smart body guard, Leo.
Let's talk. Let's go somewhere else and

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talk. I like it here.
Okay, we start? How come you

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tip them up? We were coming
here. You promised you wouldn't like the

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Shamas. They got a drink.
I hope you'll be with us then.

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