WEBVTT 1 00:00:03.240 --> 00:00:08.039 Hudson River Radio dot com. This is Travis Walton and you are listening to 2 00:00:08.640 --> 00:00:26.399 UFO Headquarters, Beautiful Headquarters, and welcome to another exciting and incredible episode of 3 00:00:26.480 --> 00:00:30.800 UFO Headquarters. I am Michael Wardon with Linda Zimmerman, and tonight, Linda, 4 00:00:30.960 --> 00:00:37.679 we have an exciting topic only yes, something that continues to pop up 5 00:00:38.240 --> 00:00:45.439 unfortunately, Yes, foaxes and the people who fall for them, Yes, 6 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:51.920 or perpetrate them. I guess yes or and both, Yes exactly. But 7 00:00:52.000 --> 00:00:54.719 I think we have a you have a little bit of news to share first 8 00:00:55.240 --> 00:01:03.719 I do. This is rather current. It's something from January nineteenth, twenty 9 00:01:03.759 --> 00:01:08.840 twenty four I found really fascinating and I recommend tonight people have a little pad 10 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:14.319 and paper, you know, something with a pen to take some notes, 11 00:01:14.359 --> 00:01:19.599 because there's some things you should look up and listen to. And this I 12 00:01:19.680 --> 00:01:26.680 suggest you go and listen to the pilot audio. We're going to Canada and 13 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:36.760 in twenty twenty three, seventeen pilots reported sightings or some sort of anomalous things 14 00:01:36.799 --> 00:01:41.200 in the sky, which is a little uncomfortable when you're flying a commercial jet 15 00:01:41.200 --> 00:01:46.879 with passengers and something whizzing by you that you can't explain, but these were 16 00:01:46.879 --> 00:01:53.040 pilots from west Jet Air, France, British Airways, so you know, 17 00:01:53.400 --> 00:01:57.920 the stigma is lessening, but still you're putting yourself on the line. I'm 18 00:01:57.920 --> 00:02:04.280 sure a British Airways pilot filing a you know, a UAPUFO report. It's 19 00:02:04.439 --> 00:02:09.319 not the greatest thing for your career, but anyway, So twenty twenty four 20 00:02:09.479 --> 00:02:17.800 January nineteenth, around the Winnipeg area, air traffic control gets a call from 21 00:02:17.840 --> 00:02:23.319 a pilot. You can listen to all this, look it up. January 22 00:02:23.400 --> 00:02:30.520 nineteenth, Canada. Is there any military maneuvers going on north of Winnipeg? 23 00:02:30.680 --> 00:02:37.039 And the guys like, no, no, no active military airspace. Why 24 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:39.400 what are you seeing? No? No, you know, a little reluctant. 25 00:02:39.400 --> 00:02:44.560 Finally, you know, there's these lights. They come together, they 26 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:50.159 go apart, they form triangles, they go side to side, about fifty 27 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:55.719 thousand feet that's you know, barely high. The guys like, no, 28 00:02:55.879 --> 00:03:00.840 we don't because basically there's nothing thing we know of. He goes honestly, 29 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:07.120 I don't know what it is. So he's asking other pilots you seeing something, 30 00:03:07.360 --> 00:03:14.120 and at least four other pilots chime in that yeah, there's these bright 31 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:19.719 flashing lights. They're zipping all around. It's hard to estimate, you know, 32 00:03:19.759 --> 00:03:22.719 with nothing to gauge it against. You don't know the size. You 33 00:03:22.759 --> 00:03:25.439 know, you don't know the exact distance, but anywhere from fifty to one 34 00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:37.080 hundred thousand feet they're seeing all just lights zipping around and they'll form triangles or 35 00:03:37.159 --> 00:03:44.360 diamonds and then go apart, disappear, come back. It's it seems very 36 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:50.800 deliberate. So and at four point forty five am, a Winnipeg air traffic 37 00:03:50.840 --> 00:03:55.840 controller somebody suggested their satellites. Yeah, because satellites zip back and forth. 38 00:03:55.960 --> 00:04:00.280 But they're trying to get trying to get a rational explanation. And an Air 39 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:08.000 Canada pilot flying from Seattle to Winnipeg was over Saskatchewan at the time, and 40 00:04:08.039 --> 00:04:12.280 he's like, I'm certainly not an expert, but they move from side to 41 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:16.199 side and then they move away from each other and create triangles. It doesn't 42 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:20.040 look like they're moving in some kind of orbit. But I'm not an expert 43 00:04:20.120 --> 00:04:27.839 on that. Then a Flare Airlines pilot who was dry who was flying from 44 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:32.279 Vancouver to Toronto says, yeah, it's kind of weird. About six of 45 00:04:32.319 --> 00:04:38.319 them are just randomly flying at high altitude at around the twelve o'clock mark. 46 00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:46.360 And then somebody from morning Star Air Express flying from Calgary to Toronto just flat 47 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:53.120 outs they're definitely not satellites, and they're not like anything I've seen in fifteen 48 00:04:53.279 --> 00:04:58.279 years of flying at night. All Right, I would trust the observations of 49 00:04:58.360 --> 00:05:01.560 pilots with experience and sort of know what they're looking at. Yes, they 50 00:05:01.720 --> 00:05:05.959 have their lives in the lives of all their parents on the line based on 51 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:13.160 the you know, it's all up to their skills and abilities. And so 52 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:18.720 then a cargo jet pilot flying from Ontario to to Winnipeg chimes in says, 53 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:27.120 I didn't see them today, but we've been seeing these lights for about eighteen 54 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:31.920 months or so, just to let you know, eight year and a half 55 00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:36.079 this has been going on. And then, as you know, once one 56 00:05:36.160 --> 00:05:43.040 pilot starts talking, the others feel more confident. So a west Jet pilot 57 00:05:43.120 --> 00:05:46.279 comes in and said, yeah, I've seen them three or four times in 58 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:50.399 the last month. And that night the night so this was early morning, 59 00:05:50.480 --> 00:05:57.360 from about four twenty to six am January nineteenth, there were a lot of 60 00:05:57.480 --> 00:06:00.720 sightings. You can listen to the record hoardings coming in and out of the 61 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:04.920 Memphis Air Traffic Control. There were a lot, a lot of sightings apparently 62 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:11.600 in the South, particularly in the Birmingham, Alabama area, So that was 63 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:19.560 a very busy night. The the skeptic Mick West, you know, the 64 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:27.480 the air apparent to Joe Nickel, and that's saying a lot. Oh, 65 00:06:27.560 --> 00:06:32.680 they're they're starlink satellites. It's sunlight reflecting off star because you know, starlights 66 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:38.680 Starlink satellites separate, go back and forth, up and down, back and 67 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:43.639 forth. You know, you know, shut up and listen to what the 68 00:06:43.639 --> 00:06:48.879 the pilots are saying. It has nothing to do with satellites. So I 69 00:06:48.920 --> 00:06:53.639 thought that was fascinating. So definitely you can go to YouTube. There's a 70 00:06:53.680 --> 00:06:59.600 lot of you know, clips of the it's fascinating to listen to the progression 71 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:02.319 of the pilots, you know, chiming in. You know, I don't 72 00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:05.360 know what it is. I'm not saying what it is, but it's nothing 73 00:07:05.399 --> 00:07:13.199 I've ever seen before. So interesting stuff going on in our skies, yes, 74 00:07:13.319 --> 00:07:16.639 and good to see the skeptics have not changed their no, because it 75 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:21.560 has nothing to do with the eyewitness reports. It's that they have to win. 76 00:07:23.240 --> 00:07:28.000 They have to explain it and say basically, you're wrong, I'm right 77 00:07:28.399 --> 00:07:31.399 and right. Yes, the pilots were having none of it, and neither 78 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:35.480 am I. No. Well, again, you have a pilot who's used 79 00:07:35.480 --> 00:07:40.439 to flying. They used to being in the sky, and they know what 80 00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:44.079 to see and what to expect to sh So when you see things outside of 81 00:07:44.079 --> 00:07:46.399 the ordinary, it all goes from the level of the witness. What's the 82 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:49.240 witness is normal? You know, to someone on the ground, starlink looks 83 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:54.720 like an alien. You don't know what it is. I'll give you an 84 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:58.279 example. Right before Christmas, I saw lights moving across the sky. It 85 00:07:58.360 --> 00:08:01.600 was a line of light like they were separated. They were bobbing up and 86 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:07.399 down. They were not moving like an airplane. I'm like, what is 87 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:09.800 that? I had my son with me, I'm like what those was like 88 00:08:09.360 --> 00:08:13.720 a spaceship. Well, it was dark, it was a little foggy. 89 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:16.959 Turns out it was part of the mountain and there was a nighttime candle light 90 00:08:18.040 --> 00:08:22.079 hype going on. Oh and they were walking the trail on the edge of 91 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:24.480 the mountain. But in the dark, with a little bit of fog, 92 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:28.439 you didn't see the mountain. We just saw lights. So it's very easy 93 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:33.039 to jump to conclusions, but it was also very easy to explain that one. 94 00:08:33.159 --> 00:08:37.720 I would expect pilots would be the same way. They may see starlink, 95 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:41.840 go oh, now that's starlink. I'm pretty sure they're not going to 96 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:48.039 put their their reputation on the line over satellite. No. No, and 97 00:08:48.120 --> 00:08:50.759 so many of them coming from all differents, going from east to west, 98 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:56.399 west to east. Yeah, I think they know what they're looking at, 99 00:08:56.440 --> 00:09:01.240 and they know what they're not looking at. This thing they can't explain, 100 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:07.759 and so yeah, it's just fascinating. And I you know, there's uh 101 00:09:07.960 --> 00:09:15.559 they took two and a half hours of communication with different towers and there's a 102 00:09:15.679 --> 00:09:20.759 really good, like nine minute video. It's it's worth listening to their actual 103 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:26.039 voices. Nobody's panicking, you know, nobody's saying, oh my god, 104 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:28.399 what is this. It's like, you know, we'd we'd like, in 105 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:33.840 fact, at the very end, we'd kind of like an explanation on this. 106 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:37.720 Yeah, because our butts are in the air, we don't know what 107 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:45.200 these things are. Essentially, if you read between the lines. So uh 108 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:50.320 so that's our our news for tonight, and when we get back from our 109 00:09:50.399 --> 00:10:03.759 first break, we'll talk hoaxes. Hudson River Radio dot com. This is 110 00:10:03.879 --> 00:10:11.879 Hudson River Radio dot com and we are back. So, Mike a break. 111 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:16.039 That was a quick break. But shall we uh, shall I kick 112 00:10:16.120 --> 00:10:26.759 this off with a classic classic hoax? So yeah, so this, you 113 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:31.919 know, we we like to think that hoaxes are kind of a recent thing, 114 00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:37.919 you know, starting maybe in the fifties and really taking off once everybody 115 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:43.799 knew how to photoshop and then make videos. But what do they say, 116 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:50.080 There's nothing new under the sun. So we're going back to a story I 117 00:10:50.240 --> 00:10:56.600 highlighted and we never mentioned my books, and I'm I'm blatantly talking about one 118 00:10:56.679 --> 00:11:01.759 tonight because this is an excerpt from my book Bad Science, which the full 119 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:07.799 title is Bad Science, A brief history of bizarre misconceptions, totally wrong conclusions 120 00:11:07.840 --> 00:11:16.799 and incredibly stupid theories and an excellent book. Thank you. I enjoyed reading 121 00:11:16.840 --> 00:11:20.360 it, Thank you, and it actually won an award for humor. People 122 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:24.320 would say, you won a humor award for a science book. I said, 123 00:11:24.360 --> 00:11:31.039 you obviously don't understand the history of science. So anyway, so this 124 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:39.480 is a bad Science excerpt going back to eighteen thirty five. The New York 125 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:46.720 Sun was a struggling New York City newspaper and on August thirty first, twenty 126 00:11:46.759 --> 00:11:54.000 first, excuse me, they said that they would be reprinting a series of 127 00:11:54.279 --> 00:12:01.840 six articles from the Edinburgh Current of the Scottish newspaper, and that these articles 128 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:07.320 were written by the famous astronomer Sir John Herschel. Now, you know, 129 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:13.679 we amateur astronomers. The name of Herschel is revered. But for those who 130 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:20.399 you know, like who Sir John Herschel, brilliant astronomer, chemist, mathematician, 131 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:26.200 and if that wasn't enough, he also invented blueprints, you know, 132 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:33.480 one of those men who just people who just did everything. He was the 133 00:12:33.519 --> 00:12:39.080 son of Sir William Herschel, who discovered the planet Uranus. His aunt, 134 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:46.639 Carolyn Herschel, was the first woman to discover a comet, discovered eight comets 135 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:50.360 in all, did a scan of the entire sky. So the name of 136 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:56.480 Herschel and astronomy were synonymous. This is a family of underachievers, clearly, 137 00:12:56.639 --> 00:13:05.480 yes, yeah, yeah, So you couldn't get better credentials than I will 138 00:13:05.480 --> 00:13:15.919 say. The alleged series of articles by Herschel. So supposedly that Herschel was 139 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:22.399 in South Africa, which he was observing. They said he was using a 140 00:13:22.559 --> 00:13:28.240 twenty four foot telescope, which is ginormous, especially for then it would have 141 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:33.360 been if it was real. I don't think I'm spoiling anything here, and 142 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:39.360 it had forty two thousand power. So the first article was presented on August 143 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:48.600 twenty fifth, and it was a startling story of the lunarians moon people, 144 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:54.639 yellowish moon people with big bat wings. To be precise and write this down, 145 00:13:54.720 --> 00:14:00.399 because you can go look up sketches that were printed in the newspaper of 146 00:14:00.480 --> 00:14:07.360 these flying lunarians. And with this massive telescope, Herschel was supposedly also able 147 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:16.639 to identify over one hundred and thirty species of plants and animals and the articles. 148 00:14:16.919 --> 00:14:24.720 People were mesmerized. They called it lunarian fever. The circulation of the 149 00:14:24.759 --> 00:14:31.399 paper shot up. People couldn't get enough. The only problem was it was 150 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:39.200 all nineteenth century bs. The Edinburgh Current probably wasn't even printing during that year. 151 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:43.639 It was probably out of print for a while, but they published no 152 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:50.559 such articles. Herschel never wrote any articles because he never saw any lunarians and 153 00:14:50.639 --> 00:15:01.399 that supposed twenty four foot telescope was written reality twenty inches and the articles had 154 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:05.240 all been written by a man by the name of Robert Locke, who worked 155 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:13.120 for the New York Sun. And it gets even better because the idea really 156 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:20.960 wasn't his about the moon people. He actually stole the idea from an article 157 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:28.039 he published by an author you may have heard of, Edgar Allan Poe so 158 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:37.039 EIGHTEENGI yes, so Poe had this article about these moon people. He steals 159 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:41.759 it, says that herschel wrote it, and makes a fortune for the newspaper. 160 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:50.360 So basically, why did lunarian fever happen? People wanted to believe in 161 00:15:50.480 --> 00:15:58.799 aliens, There was an alleged reputable source. The public is gullible and people 162 00:15:58.879 --> 00:16:03.200 are unscrupulous. Back then, it was done for sales of newspaper and of 163 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:10.120 course money. Today it's done for money, but the prestige of the hits, 164 00:16:10.240 --> 00:16:15.240 the downloads, the going viral social media likes and follows and views, 165 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:21.320 and yeah, so what are we almost one hundred and ninety, almost two 166 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:26.440 centuries later, and the same thing is going on. So I thought this 167 00:16:26.639 --> 00:16:32.720 was a great example of the stage was set and all the components were there 168 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:40.000 for hoaxes, and we've just added more technology to it and made it more 169 00:16:40.039 --> 00:16:45.559 accessible to anybody to do nowadays. Right, right, right, So I 170 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:52.639 have a couple of other modern examples, So why don't we jump into my 171 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:56.080 examples, take our second break a little later, and then you get to 172 00:16:56.240 --> 00:17:03.279 the icing on the cake, as it were. So let's let's go to 173 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:11.400 two thy eleven, Irkutsk, Russia, Eastern Siberia. The locals for about 174 00:17:11.400 --> 00:17:15.319 a month were claiming to see pink and blue lights in the sky, orange 175 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:21.640 orbs, and then something they thought, perhaps something had crashed, maybe a 176 00:17:21.759 --> 00:17:30.279 UFO had crashed. So the table was set, we might have an alleged 177 00:17:30.440 --> 00:17:36.640 UFO crash. So two guys just happened to go out with their camera walking 178 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:40.799 around in the snow and the bitter cold. About a month later, and 179 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:45.319 oh what is this in the snow? Of course they're saying it in Russian, 180 00:17:45.160 --> 00:17:52.359 and they're in the town of Commence and they see a body in the 181 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:57.000 snow. It's about two feet long, its leg was ripped off as if 182 00:17:57.039 --> 00:18:03.200 it had been in a crash or some sort of accident. It's grayish, 183 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:10.000 it's really creepy. Looking. You can look this up. The skin in 184 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:18.680 particular looks really real, and it's just bizarre. It's bizarre. They post 185 00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:25.240 the video of this alleged alien body, you know, a UFO crash victim. 186 00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:33.839 It gets four point eight million hits on YouTube in three days. At 187 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:37.920 the time, that was a record. That's that is going, That is 188 00:18:37.960 --> 00:18:45.000 going viral, Yes, phenomenal. It now has twelve million hits, so 189 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:51.240 I guess they're still making money off of it from all the YouTube hits. 190 00:18:51.839 --> 00:18:56.920 Well, a local TV correspondent sees this and says, you know that looks 191 00:18:57.000 --> 00:19:03.400 awfully real. Maybe it's the body of a dead child and there found it, 192 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:08.319 or maybe they murdered it. You know it, you have to see 193 00:19:08.359 --> 00:19:12.839 it. So the correspondent goes to the police, and the police are like, 194 00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:18.799 maybe we have a real human crime here. So they bring the two 195 00:19:18.880 --> 00:19:25.680 men in and start interrogating them. And what started as a funny joke, 196 00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:30.680 now you're being entire interrogated by the police for a possible murder of a child. 197 00:19:32.559 --> 00:19:37.640 They come clean and they say, look, we took a chicken skin, 198 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:41.960 we stuffed it with bread crumbs, and we put it in the snow. 199 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:45.480 And when I went back and looked at it, and I said, 200 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:49.559 that's why that skin looked so cool. It was real. You could see 201 00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:55.400 where the feathers have been pulled out. You know, it's a chicken stint, 202 00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:59.200 and when you stuff it it kind of got a little translucent. It 203 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:03.440 was a real it was It was a real creepy uh effect. However, 204 00:20:03.839 --> 00:20:07.720 even with these two guys saying how they did it, why they did it, 205 00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:14.839 people still believe it was an alien and the government has covered it up 206 00:20:14.920 --> 00:20:19.880 and silenced these people. So of course, even when the truth comes out, 207 00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:26.400 have you seen that that video, Yes, I'm aware it was years 208 00:20:26.400 --> 00:20:29.079 a guy saw it, but yeah, but you touched on it. And 209 00:20:29.079 --> 00:20:32.039 I'm going to touch on it later with icing on the cake story. But 210 00:20:33.680 --> 00:20:38.160 ultimately, that's what really hurts the whole UFO field is they just keep relying 211 00:20:38.200 --> 00:20:42.200 on the oh what, it's still a cover up instead of you know, 212 00:20:44.160 --> 00:20:45.359 at some point you have to draw a line in the stand say okay, 213 00:20:45.400 --> 00:20:49.359 you know what, that's fake. Not everything is a conspiracy. Not everything 214 00:20:49.400 --> 00:20:56.160 to cover up it just and that hurts the paranormal field in general, not 215 00:20:56.400 --> 00:21:00.880 just the UFO, but the whole umbrella term. It drives me crazy. 216 00:21:00.640 --> 00:21:04.559 Oh yeah, yeah, that's why we're doing this show. Because when the 217 00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:10.000 story you're going to talk about came out, we were we were foaming and 218 00:21:10.079 --> 00:21:14.519 fuming and like, why do people keep falling for this? Oh? I 219 00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:21.039 know? So I have two other short ones, the two thousand and seven 220 00:21:21.200 --> 00:21:26.480 Haiti video, which everybody starts sending me links look at this. I'm like, 221 00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:33.559 no, people get mad. They get mad at us when you don't 222 00:21:33.599 --> 00:21:40.640 believe the fake video they just found on the internet. So I'm sorry. 223 00:21:40.960 --> 00:21:48.160 It looked it looked cgi. So what the what that allegation video was? 224 00:21:48.200 --> 00:21:53.000 It was two UFOs discs flying overhead. You know, it was a nice 225 00:21:53.079 --> 00:22:00.400 piece of you know, creating a video, but it was just so clearly 226 00:22:00.440 --> 00:22:06.599 phony. But people ate it up twenty million views, even more than our 227 00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:14.359 star Chicken Alien Chicken Skin Alien. So the Los Angeles Times decided to get 228 00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:18.200 you know, let's actually look into this. There's a concept, and they 229 00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:25.720 found the professional animator who used his MacBook to create it. It took him 230 00:22:25.880 --> 00:22:32.720 seventeen hours and he only posted it because he wanted people to see how he 231 00:22:32.759 --> 00:22:37.359 could create animations. He never dreamed. And you know, once the millions 232 00:22:37.400 --> 00:22:41.519 of hits start rolling in. Ah, maybe I better keep my mouth shut 233 00:22:44.119 --> 00:22:48.720 and enjoy it. So that's another one for people to look up two thousand 234 00:22:48.759 --> 00:22:53.039 and seven Haiti UFO video and you'll see, you know, you'll shake your 235 00:22:53.079 --> 00:22:59.440 head and say, how did anybody believe this? And then this I remember 236 00:22:59.440 --> 00:23:03.119 when it was happening, and that day I'm getting all sorts of messages, 237 00:23:03.200 --> 00:23:07.559 Oh my god, there's a UFO over New Jersey right now, and I'm 238 00:23:07.599 --> 00:23:12.799 like, here we go again. So this was September of twenty twenty, 239 00:23:14.359 --> 00:23:18.160 and I'm going to say it right off the bat. The Goodyear Blimp was 240 00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:25.440 in Northern New Jersey over MetLife Stadium because that night was going to be Monday 241 00:23:25.519 --> 00:23:30.200 Night football. They you know, the Goodyear Blimp over the stadium covering it. 242 00:23:30.200 --> 00:23:36.079 It was the Giants versus the Steelers. And for some reason on that 243 00:23:36.200 --> 00:23:41.160 day it was like everybody suddenly had never seen a blimp before. They're stopping 244 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:45.640 on the highways, which if you know northern New Jersey near MetLife, you 245 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:49.519 really don't want to stop on one of those crazy highways. New Jersey driveways 246 00:23:49.599 --> 00:23:56.640 will run you down. I don't want to drive on them. Stop and 247 00:23:56.720 --> 00:24:00.400 get out. Yeah, that's a very crazy area, very yes, very 248 00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:07.440 dangerous. Yes. So people are stopping and they're taking videos and immediately posting 249 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:11.319 them on Twitter and TikTok. Four million hits on one of the TikTok videos 250 00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:15.759 in one day. Four million in one day. And you know, so 251 00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:19.880 then pee other people are looking and stopping. They want to photograph the video, 252 00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:27.359 the UFO and titles they're posting it. UFO breaking news, real alien 253 00:24:27.519 --> 00:24:33.759 spacecraft captured on highway. Eye witnesses say, body came out of the UFO. 254 00:24:34.359 --> 00:24:38.200 What. I don't know what they saw. Maybe they were getting dumping 255 00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:44.640 the garbage out of the blimp. I don't know. Instagram, there's one 256 00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:48.799 video of this guy live. I won't use the language, but there's an 257 00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:53.079 fing UFO. Look at that blank brow. They're you know, they're standing 258 00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:57.759 on the side of these busy highways filming the good gear blimp losing it. 259 00:24:57.839 --> 00:25:02.960 They're just lo using it because this is the most exciting thing in their life. 260 00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:07.200 They're seeing this UFO, except it wasn't. So it's kind of a 261 00:25:07.319 --> 00:25:11.720 tragedy that so many people got sucked in. But to me, as a 262 00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:15.839 Giants fan, the real tragedy that day was that they lost to the Pittsburgh 263 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:22.400 Steelers twenty six sixteen. So ah, that that's the painful part of it 264 00:25:22.440 --> 00:25:27.640 for me. But so basically, if it looks too good to be true, 265 00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:34.200 it is, and social media sites are not reality. I'm sorry people, 266 00:25:36.319 --> 00:25:37.799 Wait, wait a minute. You know you don't get your news from 267 00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:45.119 TikTok. I don't even have a TikTok account, nor do I have Twitter 268 00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:51.319 or x whatever you want to call it. I don't have time for that 269 00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:55.720 nons for other people's nonsense. I have enough nonsense of my own to deal 270 00:25:55.799 --> 00:26:03.039 with. So maybe there are are good reports out there, but they are 271 00:26:03.240 --> 00:26:08.000 lost in a sea of hoaxing. And then they and then the you know, 272 00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:12.759 the skeptic, get to lump them all together. So those very rare 273 00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:18.240 good reports get lumped into the garbage can full of nonsense and garbage. They 274 00:26:18.279 --> 00:26:22.400 get thrown out of the trash because well, look, this is clearly hoped. 275 00:26:22.440 --> 00:26:26.039 Everybody's hoaxing, and it's easy to paint or broad brush. We give 276 00:26:26.079 --> 00:26:30.319 they give the ammunition to the to the skeptic. Unfortunate, Yes, yes 277 00:26:30.359 --> 00:26:36.759 it is. So why don't we take our second break and when we come 278 00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:40.000 back, we are handing it over to you. All right, let's do 279 00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:49.880 it. Hudson River Radio dot com. Hudson River Radio dot com. The 280 00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:53.440 best thing to happen to the Internet. And we're back here and we are 281 00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:57.759 going to go to a segment that I AM calling the asient, the alien 282 00:26:59.039 --> 00:27:07.880 Invasion of I AM or the icing on the cake. So if you're diabetic, 283 00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:11.920 you're gonna want to take your medicine for this one. So let's just 284 00:27:12.000 --> 00:27:15.559 jump right into this. On January first of this year, twenty twenty four, 285 00:27:15.839 --> 00:27:23.559 pretty recent around four, there's a mass disturbance reported at the Bayside Marketplace 286 00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:30.599 in Miami, Florida. Bay Side Marketplace is a large outdoor mall. Among 287 00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:37.039 the reports are gunshots and this leads to a massive police presence, and if 288 00:27:37.079 --> 00:27:40.599 you go online look at the videos for talking cop cars lined up the block. 289 00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:47.400 And this presence really didn't make sense because the police said this was raging 290 00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:52.680 juvenile, rampaging juveniles, shooting off fireworks for people. And immediately that caught 291 00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:57.039 people's suspicion because why do you need so many cops for a bunch of kids 292 00:27:57.599 --> 00:28:02.759 causing a little bit of mayhem? Had an outdoor mall, the police had 293 00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:08.039 locked down an incredibly large area around them all. And then what I think 294 00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:15.640 is the most disconcerting part is eyewitnesses recalled and we're talking about seeing multiple alien 295 00:28:15.480 --> 00:28:22.559 entities up to eight to ten feet tall walking around in the vicinity of the 296 00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:27.960 law. So the eyewitnesses reporting this, eyewitnesses were reporting that they saw people 297 00:28:29.039 --> 00:28:37.400 shooting at the alien. That's a good idea, Probably not, no. 298 00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:41.960 It then came out that airspace over Miami had been restricted, that the airport 299 00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:48.440 had been closed down, the Miami Airport and police scanners were shut down. 300 00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:53.720 There was also a mysterious power outage occurring in multiple Miami neighborhoods at the same 301 00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:59.720 time. So of course the government tried to cover all this up in the 302 00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:06.599 media. It was complicit and tried to avoid reporting on it. So the 303 00:29:06.640 --> 00:29:12.559 first reports, of course, begin to circulate on social media TikTok and x 304 00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:19.039 formerly Twitter. No shock there, right, and some on Instagram to lesser 305 00:29:19.119 --> 00:29:22.160 degree. But if you want conspiracy theories and such, go to TikTok and 306 00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:29.799 x and you can lose yourself for hours. A video was shared to TikTok, 307 00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:36.480 which then spread not just on social media but to the mainstream media, 308 00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:41.000 entitled footage of aliens in Miami. That was the title of the video, 309 00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:48.480 and it should what appeared to be this giant, lumbering alien moving from above. 310 00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:53.799 The camera was looking down. This went viral as well, and again 311 00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:57.160 it was picked up on the mainstream press as well as all of your social 312 00:29:57.200 --> 00:30:02.359 media. And the video did appear to show what looked like a seven to 313 00:30:02.359 --> 00:30:07.400 ten foot alien at the scene moving around, caught on camera indisputable proof. 314 00:30:08.559 --> 00:30:14.039 Other videos started to also circulate. One showed as many as three aliens on 315 00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:18.920 camera walking around or creeping around whatever, aliens doing them all? Even if 316 00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:22.880 I'm looking for after Christmas sales, I don't could be. I mean, 317 00:30:23.680 --> 00:30:30.119 I would have thought Black Friday'd be a better day. But and then of 318 00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:33.799 course more videos start to pop up in all sorts of odd paranormal type activity 319 00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:37.480 in the mall. There was a video of people in the mall with some 320 00:30:37.559 --> 00:30:45.920 kind of manifestation appearing, that aliens walking around. It just became it took 321 00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:48.000 on a life of its own. So what was going on in Miami on 322 00:30:48.079 --> 00:30:52.400 January first, twenty twenty four, Well, was an aliens from another planet? 323 00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:56.680 A lot of people were speculating this was aliens they were making contact. 324 00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:06.319 A big online presence argued it wasn't aliens, it was the Nephilum, the 325 00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:11.440 mysterious beings or a race of possible giants that are referenced in the Hebrew Bible. 326 00:31:12.319 --> 00:31:17.640 That's apparently a thing people think could have been showing up. Of course, 327 00:31:18.160 --> 00:31:22.240 they could have been shadow people, and they were also possibly demons, 328 00:31:22.359 --> 00:31:26.400 So we've really brought it brought in here from just aliens, but aliens are 329 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:33.079 well, most people went One theory that was circulating proposed that the juveniles themselves 330 00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:40.279 had opened up the portal it had brought these alien slash demons, shadow people, 331 00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:45.559 nephylum, insert your interdimensional creature of choice here into the world. Oh 332 00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:48.920 my god, my IQ is dropping just listening to this. Yeah, you 333 00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:53.680 might want to might want to brace yourself. This is like thirty two flavors 334 00:31:53.680 --> 00:32:01.680 of stupid. Now everybody everybody has a smartphone today, Most people have a 335 00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:07.240 smartphone. But there's no clear video of the alien. And that's because people 336 00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:13.160 were reporting that when they tried to get pictures in video, their devices just 337 00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:22.519 wouldn't cooperate and work. And the government, of course tried suppressed this well. 338 00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:25.799 The government tried to block it and it couldn't. And of course this 339 00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:30.440 blows up and on Twitter and on TikTok. I hate even saying it. 340 00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:36.200 The government was lying and there was no kids that were fighting at the mall, 341 00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:39.559 that the panic was real. There was panic, and that's because there 342 00:32:39.559 --> 00:32:45.880 were alien creatures at the mall. It's on video. Some described the aliens 343 00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:52.000 as being very quiet but aware that the humans were there. Again, the 344 00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:54.799 sides about eight to ten feet tall. One report they said they could turn 345 00:32:54.839 --> 00:33:01.680 their head all the way around in a circle. Others thought they lacked bones 346 00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:07.200 and appeared to be just sort of I guess, hyper vendable. People reported 347 00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:10.440 that they had arms and legs, but no fingers or feet. I mean, 348 00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:15.920 you can look online and just read through so many of these. Others 349 00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:21.319 thought that they could teleport through obstacles, like they could just go through a 350 00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:27.720 wall or through a chair without having to physically go around it. That cell 351 00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:31.000 phones were interfered with. That's why you couldn't get photos or videos. And 352 00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:36.160 the police or the government, depending on which one you want to think about, 353 00:33:36.200 --> 00:33:40.640 the big government or the little local government established a perimeter and would not 354 00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:46.240 let anybody leave the area until they had searched their phones for photos and videos, 355 00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:52.000 so they were stopping people and searching them. People saw black helicopters hovering 356 00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:57.119 over the mall. We all know what black helicopters mean. And when this 357 00:33:57.200 --> 00:34:02.519 happens, witnesses is witnesses came forward, or witnesses who came forward claimed they 358 00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:07.279 were intimidated by what could have been the men in black. They would wake 359 00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:09.280 up in the middle of the night and see men standing outside their houses in 360 00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:16.039 dark clothes, wearing sunglasses, just staring at their house ominously. So they 361 00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:24.599 didn't directly intimidate them, but just their presence alone is intimidating. The stories 362 00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:31.519 that were floating around these credible social media sites confirmed flights were grounded, police 363 00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:37.119 scanners disabled, and air traffic restricted. And they also confirmed that the police 364 00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:44.559 would never respond in such force to an alleged disturbance involving fifty juvenile because that's 365 00:34:44.559 --> 00:34:49.360 what it turned out to event. So this goes on for a few days 366 00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:52.440 and it takes on a life of its own. I remember you and I 367 00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:55.519 talked about it. The minute I saw the video. I was probably cursing 368 00:34:55.519 --> 00:35:01.400 and swearing, but we guess it. So that is what I call the 369 00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:06.840 alien invasion of Miami. However, now I'm going to be a kill joke 370 00:35:07.519 --> 00:35:13.159 because the alien invasion of Miami turned out to be the not so an alien 371 00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:17.960 invasion of Miami. So let's go through the facts a little bit. Oh, 372 00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:22.199 you really want to spoil a good story with facts. If anybody is 373 00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:28.880 offended by the truth, you may want to disconnect at this moment. So 374 00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:34.760 on January first, just after four o'clock, there was a chaotic disturbance at 375 00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:39.079 the Bayside Marketplace, an outdoor mall in Miami. Police did respond to this. 376 00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:45.159 Gunshots were reported, and when police showed up, there was fifty or 377 00:35:45.159 --> 00:35:52.559 more juveniles or mostly juveniles, basically discharging fireworksrap people fighting, stealing things, 378 00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:58.519 breaking things, and looting some storm. So the initial responding officers did what 379 00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:00.679 they are probably trained to do, so they called for backup. They put 380 00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:06.519 out a citywide request for backup, meaning cops from all over Miami were now 381 00:36:06.559 --> 00:36:10.159 going to converge. And if there's one thing cops do really well is everybody 382 00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:15.360 wants to get to the scene of the action. No one wants to be 383 00:36:15.000 --> 00:36:19.000 fifty blocks away and hear it on the radio. I know, I was 384 00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:22.119 a cop at one time. You know, that's how we are. You 385 00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:27.400 want to be there, you want to be part of the excitement. There 386 00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:30.760 was a massive police presence to begin with, because it's New Year's Day, 387 00:36:31.800 --> 00:36:37.559 Because a year before, on January first, twenty twenty three, there had 388 00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:43.280 been a terror attack in New York City when a man with a machete attacked 389 00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:47.519 three cops and injured them. So they were already on heightened alert because of 390 00:36:47.559 --> 00:36:52.679 the year before. Miami's a big city, so they had extra cops available. 391 00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:54.920 So it just turns out it all works out well, and there were 392 00:36:54.960 --> 00:37:00.960 some arrest made of juvenile so kids are arrested. So those are the facts, 393 00:37:00.960 --> 00:37:06.159 at least on that end. But what about the power outage, the 394 00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:13.719 airport closure, restricted airspace, the police scanners not working well. Turns out 395 00:37:13.719 --> 00:37:17.280 the power outage was real and was caused by a motor vehicle action that damage 396 00:37:17.320 --> 00:37:23.159 an electrical box and caused some neighborhoods to lose power, not caused by alien. 397 00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:30.280 But who was an alien driving the car? That may have been Yeah, 398 00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:34.519 this is where you're gonna want to hold on to your IQ points. 399 00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:39.639 The rest never happened. The airspace was never restricted, The airport never closed, 400 00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:45.199 lights are never grounded, and police scanners were still working. In fact, 401 00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:49.719 there is audio online of the police traffic communication if you want to listen. 402 00:37:51.440 --> 00:37:57.840 So, I know it's shocking to some, but we're gonna keep going. 403 00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:02.840 Made the news, so the media wasn't silent. This was being reported 404 00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:08.039 on and there are videos of the disturbance as well as eyewitnessed so you can 405 00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:14.639 see video of the kids fighting, you can see eyewitnesses describe what was happening. 406 00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:19.519 Now, as for eyewitness accounts of the alien, because some people came 407 00:38:19.559 --> 00:38:24.000 forward and said I saw an alien, nowtually on social media people jumped all 408 00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:28.440 over this. Well, since then if you have come forward and said, 409 00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:30.840 yeah, I just kind of jumped in on the hope made it up. 410 00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:35.079 I didn't see any alien. Not all of them have been honest. But 411 00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:38.760 I'm pretty sure that anybody that claimed to see an alien that night is either 412 00:38:38.800 --> 00:38:43.599 diluted themselves into believing it or is just that right line. I mean, 413 00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:47.440 I think that's a pretty safe conclusion. Unfortunately, social media likes and views 414 00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:52.400 and followers are just a big incentive to stretch the truth or just that right 415 00:38:52.440 --> 00:38:58.440 invented in this case, I think but let's get to the video. Because 416 00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:00.920 we have video ofvail. Is that proof enough? What more do we need? 417 00:39:00.960 --> 00:39:07.920 It's on video, right case clothes. Well, the video shows people 418 00:39:08.159 --> 00:39:15.639 distorted people on camera in low light with shadows and low resolution and angle of 419 00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:19.920 the camera and stuff like that, but they are people and a very close 420 00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:24.400 look at it shows people. First thing I did when I saw the video 421 00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:29.000 posted, I zoomed in on my phone. I'm like, here we go. 422 00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:32.239 We're all gonna look bad for a while because we're looking at a shadow 423 00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:42.239 of a person and it's now an alien and so I just and of course 424 00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:46.599 people did manipulate video also, so there's video of inside them all allegedly that 425 00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:52.440 was completely digitally edited. You can find a lot of different versions floating around 426 00:39:52.480 --> 00:39:54.360 because people jumped on and wanted to post. Again, everybody wants to post 427 00:39:54.719 --> 00:39:59.119 for that social media cloud, and it doesn't matter if it's true or not. 428 00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:07.039 Now it's no surprise that TikTok and Twitter we're the big big two, 429 00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:12.840 and there's today there are people who have drawn the line, this is the 430 00:40:12.920 --> 00:40:15.480 hill that they're willing to die on. And it happens, and the government 431 00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:22.280 is suppressing it. It is a massive cover up, massive cover up. 432 00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:25.880 Now, if I know for a fact, if I was working when I 433 00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:29.840 was a cop, if I was working anywhere and there was aliens, I'm 434 00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:36.400 telling everybody I know, I'm probably calling you from the scene. You're not 435 00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:44.920 gonna believe this. First person, I'm probably calling, even if they told 436 00:40:44.960 --> 00:40:49.519 me not to tell anybody, I'm like, yeah, right, I mean, 437 00:40:50.840 --> 00:40:53.679 and if you look at the amount of police response, how are you 438 00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:59.559 keeping this quiet? So and again, but people want to believe it and 439 00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:04.960 clear because everything else can be explained. It's just a cover up and we're 440 00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:08.159 still being lied to. And that really brings me to the point today with 441 00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:12.559 what this hoax, because it really didn't start as a hoax. Initially, 442 00:41:12.599 --> 00:41:15.159 it was a real event, and it turned into a hoax because of some 443 00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:22.000 bad video and people jumping to conclusions, and that is Yeah. There are 444 00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:27.119 cameras everywhere, cell phones, ring cameras, security cameras, you name it, 445 00:41:27.760 --> 00:41:30.519 and for the most part, they're good at what they do, but 446 00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:32.920 they're not great. Even the best cell phone cameras aren't great for a lot 447 00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:39.440 of reasons, and people just don't understand how phones can press images. Some 448 00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:45.400 phones use technology where if you take a picture, it actually takes a bunch 449 00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:49.480 of pictures and then compiles them into one picture to try to get the best 450 00:41:49.480 --> 00:41:57.400 picture out of it. Sometimes those things don't work. Camera's lag Any online 451 00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:02.000 form alleging the show, ghosts or UFOs are full of one hundred explainable videos. 452 00:42:02.119 --> 00:42:07.239 Ring cameras are almost some of the worst. Yeah, people keep sending 453 00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:12.920 me they's clearly a spider on a spider web in front of their ring camera 454 00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:21.039 and look at this glowing multi legs alien or ghost or how about go brush 455 00:42:21.119 --> 00:42:25.840 the spider web away? And oh oh yeah, and we're the bad people 456 00:42:25.880 --> 00:42:34.480 for explaining it. Yes, where the big bed mean debunkers. So you 457 00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:38.159 know, it's very hard. I guess you and I when when you do 458 00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:40.440 this enough you get good at looking at stuff, and you know, the 459 00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:44.920 camera angle sometimes is a dead giveaway, like wait a minute, who has 460 00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:47.760 the camera set up like this to begin with? Or oh, they just 461 00:42:47.920 --> 00:42:52.960 happen to have a camera set up in this location to catch this exact activity 462 00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:57.719 at this exact moment, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I keep 463 00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:01.880 a camera on my kitchen cabinet and it opens on its own. Yeah. 464 00:43:02.039 --> 00:43:07.039 Well, it's usually there's some you know, illogical explanation to well, you 465 00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:08.400 know, someone's been taking cookies in my house and I wanted to find out 466 00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:15.320 who really do you really? Are they golden cookies or are they just ooreos? 467 00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:21.239 But I think what's important I want to emphasize is is there's something that 468 00:43:21.480 --> 00:43:30.760 separates legitimate investigators of whether it's UFO phenomena, paranormal phenomena, anything like that. 469 00:43:30.280 --> 00:43:35.679 And I like to consider you and I amongst that group of legitimate investigators, 470 00:43:35.719 --> 00:43:40.039 and that is we never jump out and say we have ghosts or aliens 471 00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:44.559 or whatever. You know, the TikTok video that really starts at all is 472 00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:47.920 aliens in Miami. They've already made a conclusion. I have a video that's 473 00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:51.039 an alien. I'm gonna put it out there as an alien, and then 474 00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:54.159 of course it gets repeated. The people out there doing the good work are 475 00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:59.480 out there telling the stories. But we're not jumping the conclusion like looking at 476 00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:04.159 a video going oh my gosh, that's a glowing, multi limbed interdimensional creature 477 00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:08.199 on your ring camera. This is amazing. No, we don't do that. 478 00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:14.840 That would make use Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, once 479 00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:20.000 you break your reputation, that's it, there's always a crack in it, 480 00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:23.039 and people can always point out, well you believe this at this post. 481 00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:29.079 So I would rather air on the side of caution with so many of these, 482 00:44:29.199 --> 00:44:34.440 And plus we get so many photos from people you don't know the conditions, 483 00:44:34.519 --> 00:44:37.719 the angle, the you know what, I can't you know it's a 484 00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:42.760 blob of light on a picture. Okay, no, I don't know what 485 00:44:42.880 --> 00:44:45.920 it was, but I wasn't there, And people like, well, can't 486 00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:49.840 you see a face in it? Or don't you see the structure? No? 487 00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:54.599 I you know, for the most part, it's it's tough. I 488 00:44:54.840 --> 00:44:59.599 you know, I I've come to loathe for the most part, people sending 489 00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:04.599 me f potos because how can I say, I have no idea how you 490 00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:07.559 know, especially when oh, my friend took this, Well, what were 491 00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:10.800 the conditions, what was the angle? What? You know? What exactly 492 00:45:10.800 --> 00:45:17.480 why were they taking this picture? Right? So, which doesn't mean people 493 00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:22.480 still aren't taking good pictures, but you know, for every good one, 494 00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:27.400 there's there's a lot that aren't. Well. Well, I've noticed. I 495 00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:30.360 know it's not UFOs, but it's along the same line as people are more 496 00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:36.400 and more scanning their their family photos, old one and now they're finding ghosts 497 00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:39.880 in old family photos because I saw one online not too long ago. It 498 00:45:39.880 --> 00:45:45.719 was a wedding from the nineteen twenty where the person knows for a fact that 499 00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:51.440 one of the people pictured was not at the wedding. A person was not 500 00:45:51.519 --> 00:45:57.000 even a thought in nineteen twenty, but no, a fact that that person 501 00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:00.320 was not there. Or my favorite, the really old photos that are fading. 502 00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:04.639 You know, they're they're degrading. They weren't stored properly. They weren't 503 00:46:04.880 --> 00:46:08.639 they're exposed to light or the you know that non acid free paper. We'll 504 00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:13.119 look this, this person missing their legs, that's a ghost. I mean 505 00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:15.480 you and I we both do a lot of research and have seen old photos. 506 00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:19.840 I have them in my computer where people are missing legs in a photo 507 00:46:20.280 --> 00:46:23.360 or an arm. Because that's just the photos degraded. My first thought isn't 508 00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:29.639 ghost, That's certainly not. But again, we value the credibility and we're 509 00:46:29.679 --> 00:46:34.239 willing to say no, that's that's explainable because we know that when we get 510 00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:38.480 some of the things we can explain. It just reinforces the amount of effort 511 00:46:38.599 --> 00:46:42.920 we put into that, the amount of you know, integrity, the credibility 512 00:46:42.920 --> 00:46:45.920 that goes behind our names. And that's one thing I think you and I 513 00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:50.679 have preserved for well over twenty years now, and that's our reputation. And 514 00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:52.679 that's so hard to do in this field, in any field, but let 515 00:46:52.679 --> 00:46:59.079 alone the UFO community of the paranormal community, and that makes us, I 516 00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:05.480 think, stand out from so many others that that credibility and integrity, I 517 00:47:05.480 --> 00:47:12.679 hope, So I hope people think that. So, you know, do 518 00:47:12.760 --> 00:47:19.199 I have any hope that this will all stop? New now, particularly with 519 00:47:19.400 --> 00:47:25.039 AI, it's getting even easier to generate these things. So it's it's just 520 00:47:25.199 --> 00:47:32.800 making life really tough if you're trying to do an honest job of investigating. 521 00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:38.039 It's it's hard enough with no technology, but you know, you pile all 522 00:47:38.119 --> 00:47:44.519 this on there, so you know, just common sense and don't jump on 523 00:47:44.599 --> 00:47:50.000 the bandwagon. And uh, if it looks like if it looks too good 524 00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:53.159 to be true, it probably is. Yeah, I think not always, 525 00:47:53.159 --> 00:47:55.840 but I think it's a good rule of thumb is if it looks too good 526 00:47:55.840 --> 00:47:59.119 to be true, at least you know that it's time to get the microscope 527 00:47:59.119 --> 00:48:02.039 out and really it now. Yeah, And I'm not a photo expert you 528 00:48:02.079 --> 00:48:07.960 know. I that's that's the bottom line. I'm a researcher, I'm an 529 00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:12.440 author, but I'm not a photo expert. So uh, you know, 530 00:48:12.639 --> 00:48:15.400 some photos look great, but I don't know. Again, I don't know 531 00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:21.239 the condition and I don't know what technology was used to produce it. So 532 00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:29.239 yeah, not we love what we do, but please everyone, don't make 533 00:48:29.320 --> 00:48:32.960 it more difficult. No. No, but you also don't see what us 534 00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:37.480 posting on TikTok and Twitter. No. Like I said, I don't even 535 00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:42.559 have accounts. Not interested. So and that's what a lot of groups do. 536 00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:45.559 That's all they're interested in is hosting a social media whether the UFO groups, 537 00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:51.199 ghost groups. The first thing they want to do is go out get 538 00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:54.280 evidence, put it out there to get more people to follow them. Yeah, 539 00:48:54.400 --> 00:48:58.000 whether or not it's good evidence or bad evidence, that sort of doesn't 540 00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:02.599 even enter into the equation. Yeah. I think that's where my antisocial behavior 541 00:49:02.679 --> 00:49:12.400 comes to an advantage, because I don't care to post that much. No. 542 00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:17.320 So, oh, before we end tonight the Pentagon report, we should 543 00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:22.320 just mention that that just came out. That nothing to see you here, 544 00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:28.760 Everybody move along. We have no evidence of anything at any point don't worry. 545 00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:34.239 There's no aliens, there's nothing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And 546 00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:39.159 people are so disappointed by this. Why do you care about a government who's 547 00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:45.920 been lying in this field for seventy years? Do you really care what they're 548 00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:52.880 saying now? Everybody hangs on, Oh, this is disclosure. We don't 549 00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:59.880 need the government to give us disclosure. People who who've had experiences, who 550 00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:06.000 just talk to witnesses, to read a book, you know, educate yourself 551 00:50:06.039 --> 00:50:12.039 in the field. There's more than enough evidence to say something non human at 552 00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:16.199 the least. I don't know what it is. We don't know, you 553 00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:21.079 know. And these things we're seeing today, they're not us, they're not 554 00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:28.480 Russian, they're not Chinese. What that leaves that is entirely up to you 555 00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:35.000 to determine. But yeah, so people have just been crushed and disappointed by 556 00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:40.000 this Pentagon report. Yeah, not losing sleep over it. No. I 557 00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:44.159 would have been shocked if they came out and said there was something to it. 558 00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:46.000 Yeah, and I would have probably been, oh my gosh, this 559 00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:52.239 is groundbreaking. Yes, yeah, this was to me to expected outcome absolutely 560 00:50:53.079 --> 00:51:00.440 absolutely so. All right, well, hopefully we haven't burst too many bubbles 561 00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:05.599 tonight. But yeah, go hate mail, No hate mail, no hate 562 00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:10.679 mail. Go check out these videos and look for yourself. It's it's worth 563 00:51:10.880 --> 00:51:15.920 educating yourself at the very least. And just remember this is nothing new. 564 00:51:15.960 --> 00:51:22.199 As I said in that first case eighteen thirty five, this nonsense was being 565 00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:30.519 pulled and probably even earlier. I'm sure. Take us out, Mike Well, 566 00:51:30.519 --> 00:51:35.719 thank you everybody for tuning into yet again another great episode of the Headquarters. 567 00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:39.360 If you're new to the show, please binge listen to year's worth of 568 00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:44.079 incredible podcasts, and if you have been with us for a long time, 569 00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:47.639 we thank you for your continued support and hello and thank you to everybody out 570 00:51:47.639 --> 00:51:52.199 there who listens. Whether you're in America, you're up or somewhere else or 571 00:51:52.800 --> 00:51:57.239 maybe in another planet. So until next time, keep your eyes on the sky.