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Matt Connerton unleashed and 13 00:06:18,079 --> 00:06:24,319 we are live from the studios of wm n H ninety five point three FM 14 00:06:24,399 --> 00:06:29,360 in glorious downtown Manchester, New Hampshire. Also on Comcast ninety seven if you're 15 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,160 in Manchester and oh no, no no, I swore I wasn't gonna do 16 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,879 it, and I did it. No, I said that wrong, as 17 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:43,079 we learned yesterday. Now on Comcast channel six. If you're in Manchester, 18 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,040 we have moved. We are now on channel six, moving on up like 19 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:50,959 the Jeffersons. Very exciting. So that's another way you can you can get 20 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,360 the show if you are local in Manchester, of course, on either Comcast 21 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,920 Channel six I've got to get used to saying that, or on wm H 22 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,279 ninety five point three FM. Also, hello to all of our online listeners 23 00:07:02,319 --> 00:07:05,480 across the nation and around the globe. You can go to my website Matt 24 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:10,519 Connerton dot com for all your live streaming options, social media links, contact 25 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:14,279 info, show archives, etcetera, etcetera. It is all there for you. 26 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:20,480 And today is Wednesday, August nine, two thousand twenty three. I 27 00:07:20,519 --> 00:07:24,079 wonder how many times I'm going to get that wrong. It's like at the 28 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,480 It's like at the beginning of the year, you know, when you get 29 00:07:26,519 --> 00:07:29,040 the you keep thinking it's you know, you write out a check or you 30 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,519 write something down and you think it's still the previous year when it's a new 31 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,800 year. Anyway, Hopefully that's the last time. Hopefully when I do this 32 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,959 again at the top of the hour, I get it right, I say, 33 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,680 Channel six. Very exciting. Actually, I think it's I think it's 34 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,319 going to really boost what we're doing, because yet you're more likely to get 35 00:07:45,319 --> 00:07:48,480 people that way who just kind of stumble upon, stumble upon the show by 36 00:07:48,519 --> 00:07:51,600 accident, whether it be this show or of course the Morning Show with Peter 37 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:57,279 White weekdays seven to nine am, which not only of course has streams online 38 00:07:57,319 --> 00:08:01,720 and Arizon ninety five point three on the FM band, but of course now 39 00:08:01,759 --> 00:08:05,920 you can watch that on Channel six as well. So very exciting. Let's 40 00:08:05,959 --> 00:08:09,000 see. But yes, today is it is August nine, twenty twenty three, 41 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,639 and we've got an exciting show for you. It is Wednesday, which 42 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:16,959 means in just a few minutes I will be joined by via Skype or phone, 43 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:20,360 whichever medium is more convenient for him. Of course, my favorite conservative 44 00:08:20,399 --> 00:08:24,319 as I like to call him, Eric Pilcher, he'll be joining us for 45 00:08:24,399 --> 00:08:26,959 our weekly Wednesday segment, or almost weekly. He wasn't able to be here 46 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,360 with us last week, but he will be here this week. And then 47 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:35,200 at the top of the hour, we have Choli. I'm not sure if 48 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:39,720 it's pronounced Cholie or Choli it's c O L L Y. We will ask 49 00:08:39,799 --> 00:08:43,159 her though when she joins us skyping in from across the pond all the way 50 00:08:43,159 --> 00:08:46,720 in the UK. The track that I opened with on the show today is 51 00:08:46,759 --> 00:08:50,440 called Circles and that is from Charlie. I'm gonna go into a soom for 52 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:56,279 now that it's Charlie. That's from her album Anomaly, which came out recently. 53 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,200 So really looking forward to speaking with her. So that will be coming 54 00:08:58,279 --> 00:09:01,919 up today at five pm in the Eastern time zone, of course. And 55 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,000 I really like her music. It's very cool. I like I've always been 56 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,279 fascinated by electronic music, and she has somewhat of a unique approach to it 57 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:16,080 too. So we will speak with her coming up today at five pm at 58 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,399 the top of the hour. So in the meantime, if you would like 59 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,399 to get in with a call, the studio line is open six zero three 60 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,639 two five zero six zero seven six zho three two five zero six zero seven. 61 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:30,279 You can also text me at six one seven nine one seven four four 62 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,639 seven six. I'm on social media at Matt Connerton. You can email me 63 00:09:33,759 --> 00:09:39,399 Matt at matt Connerton dot com and of course you can interact endo Pine in 64 00:09:39,519 --> 00:09:41,919 the Facebook live chat. But the best thing to do so that we can 65 00:09:41,039 --> 00:09:46,519 hear and enjoy your dulcet tones is to give us a call at six zo 66 00:09:46,639 --> 00:09:50,519 three two five zero six zero seven six zo three two five zero six zero 67 00:09:50,759 --> 00:09:54,399 seven, and we will take a moment to say hello everybody in the Facebook 68 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,840 live chat. I see Melanie, a liberty from the Great State of Vermont 69 00:09:56,879 --> 00:10:01,200 joins us in there and says, hey, guys, Ze joins us and 70 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:05,679 says, keep my sister in your thoughts. There are lots of forest fires 71 00:10:05,799 --> 00:10:09,080 in Maui. She is safe for now. Thanks. Yeah, what's going 72 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,559 on in Hawaii? I've never seen it's being described as apocalyptic there. It's 73 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:18,360 it's really bad, and it's you know, they have these terrible forest fires 74 00:10:18,399 --> 00:10:20,720 going on. There's people jumping into the ocean just to get away from the 75 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:26,320 fire and the smoke. It's it's it's horrible. I think I think the 76 00:10:26,639 --> 00:10:31,919 last I had heard, twelve people had died at last count. It's it's 77 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:37,440 strange too, because it's we keep hearing about this hurricane and you would think, 78 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,600 you know, when you first hear that, oh a hurricane, that's 79 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:41,720 a good thing that'll dump a lot of rain and put out the fires. 80 00:10:41,799 --> 00:10:48,480 But actually what's happening is the winds from the hurricane are fanning the flames of 81 00:10:48,639 --> 00:10:52,039 the of the forest fires. It's it's really really bad, really bad. 82 00:10:54,639 --> 00:10:56,399 Uh. Jenny, of course is in the chat and says shalom peeps. 83 00:10:56,480 --> 00:11:01,039 Also, j Fed from the Great State of Vermont joins us, and Crystal 84 00:11:01,159 --> 00:11:05,600 from the Great State of Illinois joins us and says hello everyone. Also a 85 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:11,360 new name in the Facebook live chat, las en las N. I'm not 86 00:11:11,399 --> 00:11:15,799 sure how to pronounce at la h c e n and it's twice so welcome 87 00:11:16,519 --> 00:11:20,240 las en Lassen. I'm gonna go with that, just like I don't know 88 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:22,600 yet if I'm pronouncing Charlie correctly. I don't know if I'm pronouncing that correctly 89 00:11:22,639 --> 00:11:28,559 either. Maybe it's a la seine I don't know. Maybe the h is 90 00:11:28,879 --> 00:11:33,559 completely silent, maybe it's lackin, I don't know, but regardless, welcome 91 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,480 to the show. I am so happy to have you here with us on 92 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,080 this beautiful It is really nice. The weather is really nice here, beautiful 93 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:46,080 Wednesday afternoon here in downtown Manchester. I hope it's nice where you are. 94 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,720 Oh and hello to DJ Steve who joins us in the Facebook live chat. 95 00:11:48,759 --> 00:11:54,799 He says cool opening tune. Yes, that is called Circles from Charlie from 96 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,480 the UK. She's gonna be skyping in at five pm. DJ Steve, 97 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:01,480 of course one of our co hosts on retro Spectrum Radio with Paul C every 98 00:12:01,519 --> 00:12:05,600 Friday night from eight to eleven pm. I love hanging out with of course 99 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:11,960 Police and DJ Steve and Mike from Queen City Cabinetry also on the program. 100 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:18,600 So we look forward to that. And let's see, I'm going to ask, 101 00:12:18,759 --> 00:12:22,600 well, I think that when Eric does join us, when Eric Pilcher 102 00:12:22,639 --> 00:12:28,039 does join us, we should probably talk about the death of William Friedkin saying 103 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,399 his name correctly, the director of the Exorcist. And Eric's going to be 104 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,720 doing a big, big event for his film review, a special that's going 105 00:12:35,759 --> 00:12:41,519 to be streaming online when he does this film review for this October when Halloween 106 00:12:41,639 --> 00:12:46,440 comes around for The Exorcist, which is going to be rereleased in theaters. 107 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,360 I think though, Oh, and we'll ask him about the Stephen Crowder stuff 108 00:12:52,399 --> 00:12:56,879 too. Boy, that guy just keeps on the gift, that keeps on 109 00:12:56,039 --> 00:13:03,039 giving some thing. Uh, ohe j Fed says, I wouldn't miss a 110 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:09,200 weekly review. I'm just saying, yes, yes, it's something we should. 111 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:13,279 We can just do a couple of quick things before Eric Pilcher joins us. 112 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:18,600 But some news I kind of yesterday on the show, I kind of 113 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:28,159 avoided the Trump news. I have TFS Trump fatigue syndrome because oh actually saved 114 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:39,200 by the Skype Eric Welcome, Hello, Matt. How are you doing well? 115 00:13:39,279 --> 00:13:41,759 Sir? Doing well? I was just about to uh get into some 116 00:13:41,919 --> 00:13:46,120 news about Skype, I mean some news about Trump rather, but I've been 117 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:52,679 kind of avoiding talking about all the Trump legal stuff because I have TFS Trump 118 00:13:52,759 --> 00:13:56,440 fatigue syndrome and so, but I was about to talk about this special Council 119 00:13:56,519 --> 00:14:01,120 obtained search warrant for Donald Trump's twitter out, and then I heard Plating talking 120 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,399 about whoa, it's like time traveling. And then I heard the Skype chime, 121 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,720 and I said, up, saved by Skype. Eric is here so 122 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:15,080 we can talk about other things. Actually just getting caught up in the chat 123 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:24,399 here. Yes, I am seeing some pretty uh derogatory things being insinuated towards 124 00:14:24,519 --> 00:14:28,759 me here are there? I have missed that? What do you mean what's 125 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:33,799 what's going on? It wouldn't miss a weekly review. I'm just saying, 126 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,039 oh, that's right. That's why j Fed said that, yes, yes, 127 00:14:37,639 --> 00:14:43,480 and that's why you have a shirt. And Melanie La Liberty said that 128 00:14:43,679 --> 00:14:46,639 those two might be in cahoots. Uh huh. I think they are in 129 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,240 cahoots. I will say this though, if we're grading on a curve, 130 00:14:50,519 --> 00:14:54,399 Eric, you're ahead of the game. And I'll tell you why, because 131 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,799 we also do a weekly segment with another Eric, Eric Gagne, of course, 132 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,159 who's our entertainment reporter, and he misses like a months at a time 133 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,279 of doing his entertainment report. So you actually next to him, you look 134 00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:09,519 pretty good. I mean, I am sorry that I worked fifty five hours 135 00:15:09,679 --> 00:15:16,120 last week. I uh huh nah, Yes you did, Yes, you 136 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,279 did? It was it was. Yeah, it was not a fun week 137 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,000 and if I wouldn't have done a review, it would not have been good. 138 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:28,480 No, that's understandable. By the way, what is the review or 139 00:15:28,559 --> 00:15:31,720 will you be able to do a review this week? I should ask you 140 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:35,639 that first. I'm right, I actually started the script today. We're just 141 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:43,399 moving Donnie Brasco to this week, and then next week we will be doing 142 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:52,159 John Carpenter's They Live. Ah, yes, ah, that's you know. 143 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:54,360 I personally, I don't think the movie itself is that great They Live. 144 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,720 This is just my opinion. But I love Roddy Piper's performance in it, 145 00:15:58,519 --> 00:16:04,159 you know, I think it's John Carpenter, and I love John Carpenter. 146 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:11,000 And I'm very excited about the collectible I got that I shared with everyone in 147 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:18,639 our group chat on Messenger. I John Carpenter as a director was just so 148 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:23,759 ahead of his time. I mean, if you look at the films he 149 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:30,840 did, Escape from New York ahead of its time, They Live, way 150 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:36,039 ahead of its time. Yes, but I mean he did a made for 151 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:41,759 cable TV horror anthology called Body Bags, which I don't know about that. 152 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:48,879 Yeah, I mean really that the success of that film is what started That 153 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:55,639 is what started the development of the Showtime series Masters of Horror. Oh Okay, 154 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,679 I did not know that. I had no idea. Yeah, I 155 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:04,599 mean, just again, ahead of his time. So many movies he did, 156 00:17:04,799 --> 00:17:11,680 like Starman, and he really is one of the true independent pioneers. 157 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:15,799 I mean, even when he did a big studio movie, he did it 158 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,559 his way. Yeah. Oh, by the way, I'm Elanie and the 159 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:26,559 chiman says, I worked fifty five hours just today. Cry baby. Ah, 160 00:17:26,839 --> 00:17:30,200 well, you're a better man than I am. Now she's got you 161 00:17:30,319 --> 00:17:33,319 beat. She's got you beat. Now, did you did you want to 162 00:17:33,319 --> 00:17:36,880 say anything about William Friedkin? Am I saying his last name correctly? Is 163 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:45,000 it Friedkin? I was actually just on Kyle Clayton's QC Chronicles before I called 164 00:17:45,039 --> 00:17:52,079 in here, yes, and spoke about him. And you know William Friedkin. 165 00:17:52,279 --> 00:17:56,119 And I'm not gonna go too much into the woods with him because our 166 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:03,000 big review of October is The Exorcist, and that's the film he's most well 167 00:18:03,079 --> 00:18:07,079 known for. Yes, but what he what I said on that program, 168 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:12,119 and I have no problem saying it again. What made him truly great is 169 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:21,559 his ability to make no matter what the subject matter was, he made the 170 00:18:21,759 --> 00:18:26,839 film suspenseful. He brought you in. I mean, he could do an 171 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:32,599 episode of Sesame Street and you would think it's Law and Order Special Victims Unit. 172 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:40,839 M. I mean it's just his just ability that in to get you 173 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:48,559 emotionally vested in each in every main character of his films. What other so 174 00:18:48,799 --> 00:18:52,400 Exorcist, As you said, that's the film he's most well known for what 175 00:18:52,519 --> 00:18:56,400 would be Action French Connection? Would that be number two? The second I 176 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,599 was well known? Okay, Action is the film that received the most accolades. 177 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,799 It's the film that won and Best Director and Best Picture, although I 178 00:19:06,039 --> 00:19:11,920 veheminently disagree with it winning Best Picture the year at won. I give him 179 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:19,559 Best Director begrudgingly, but I think seventy one the best picture was A clockwork 180 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:27,640 Orange. Okay, because I feel a film and I'm sorry, I'm getting 181 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:33,319 way off track here, film in order to win both Best Director and Best 182 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:41,400 Picture just has to be mind blowingly good. You. It has to be 183 00:19:41,759 --> 00:19:52,039 a timeless film, and I think the Academy sometimes just gets lazy, old 184 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:59,240 white men getting lazy. Who knew they just they think, oh, well, 185 00:19:59,319 --> 00:20:04,440 this film got so many accolades yea, and so many people loved it. 186 00:20:04,559 --> 00:20:10,759 It deserves Best Picture and Best Director. Not necessarily, I mean you 187 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,599 can have. I'll use a sports analogy. The best team doesn't always win 188 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:21,400 a championship. Oh, I don't know anything about sports, and even I 189 00:20:21,559 --> 00:20:27,839 understand that analogy. You it's who's playing right at the right time more than 190 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:36,440 anything. So like I look at it that year and I think a clockwork 191 00:20:36,599 --> 00:20:42,000 orange deserved Best Picture more than the French Connection. I think William Friedkin. 192 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:49,359 It's close, but I think he did a better directorial job than Kubrick did 193 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,359 with a clockwork Orange. So what would be Okay, so what would be 194 00:20:53,519 --> 00:20:59,200 number three on the list as far as William Friedkin? What's what's the film 195 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:06,319 he's third most known for? Would you say? Probably his bombed remake of 196 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:11,359 the Wages of Fear. Okay, so now we're yeah, so now we're 197 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:18,279 getting into territory. But the film he made about murders in gay bars in 198 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,400 Greenwich Village called Cruising with al Pacino. Oh that that film I've heard of? 199 00:21:22,559 --> 00:21:27,079 Okay, yeah, it almost ruined al Pacino. Wait, wait a 200 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,680 minute, Okay, So Cruising is the one Friedkin did, and it's a 201 00:21:30,759 --> 00:21:34,359 remake of Wages of Fear. No, wait, the remake. Sorry, 202 00:21:34,599 --> 00:21:40,079 I threw two movies together there. The remake of Wages of Fear is called 203 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:45,759 Guardian, Okay, and it bombed. And then he did Cruising, which 204 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:56,359 now is just such a heralded movie in regards to LGBD QI rights in everything 205 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:03,960 of that nature. But then it just horribly bombed and it almost it ruined 206 00:22:04,079 --> 00:22:10,759 Freakin's career for some time and almost killed Peccinos. So was that so that 207 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,480 film, it sounds like two was ahead of its time then, from what 208 00:22:12,559 --> 00:22:22,440 you're saying, very very because when it was made, homosexuality was I don't 209 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:27,759 want to say it was taboo in Hollywood. It was broached upon. But 210 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:37,680 to bring it to the gritty realism that Friedkin did with Cruising, unheard of? 211 00:22:37,039 --> 00:22:45,759 What year for that movie? Let me check that. I would think 212 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,720 it would be very high on the Google search right now. I should see 213 00:22:48,759 --> 00:22:53,440 it because Paccino absolutely in my top five as far as favorite actress. But 214 00:22:53,519 --> 00:22:59,880 I've never seen that movie and I feel like eighty that was nineteen eighty. 215 00:23:00,039 --> 00:23:06,759 Wow. That the cast I've never seen Cruising. The cast is amazing. 216 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:12,319 Uh. You have Paul Sorvino, Karen Allen, James Reemar, Jo Spinelli. 217 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:25,240 Wow, yeah you have, and of course Pacino. That's an amazing 218 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:33,160 cast. Yeah. But a bombed huh oh? I mean yeah. The 219 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:41,319 Advocate actually posted an article which I will drag up into my bookmark so I 220 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:51,039 can read it later, about director William Friedkin's controversial gay film Legacy. Hmm. 221 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,240 See, it's funny when it surprised me when you said nineteen eighty, 222 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:02,599 because thinking about it in terms of it being controversial when it was released, 223 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,640 I thought you were going to say back more in the seventies, early to 224 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,279 mid seventies, So nineteen eighty that, I don't know. I guess I'm 225 00:24:10,319 --> 00:24:15,039 a little bit surprised that that would have been an issue by that point. 226 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:25,759 But well, at that point, I mean, it's Hollywood always. Hollywood 227 00:24:25,839 --> 00:24:33,599 has a way of being, and we don't realize it a being behind mainstream 228 00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:41,079 society like we'd like to think Hollywood sets these trends, and they don't. 229 00:24:41,319 --> 00:24:45,759 They make they make him I think they make them accepted, but the trends 230 00:24:45,799 --> 00:24:52,039 are already there. We kind of broached that when I did the Blacksploitation films 231 00:24:52,279 --> 00:24:55,759 back in February. Well, it makes sense what you're saying, and I've 232 00:24:55,799 --> 00:24:59,279 never really thought about it that way before, But I understand what you're saying 233 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:04,160 because Hollywood obviously creates content for the masses, and so that content does have 234 00:25:04,319 --> 00:25:07,680 to reflect in order for it to be successful, does have to reflect what's 235 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:12,279 going on in society, and therefore what the audience will be will want to 236 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,359 see films that the audience will want to see. So that does make sense, 237 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:22,839 right, and it's happening now to a degree. I don't there are 238 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:29,200 instances where I agree with this saying. In instances where I don't the go 239 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:36,720 woke, go broke statement. I there are sometimes I agree, like with 240 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:41,079 bud Light. Yeah, bud Light. They totally missed the mark with that 241 00:25:41,279 --> 00:25:48,279 one. They totally didn't pay attention to their prime audience. So in Heiser 242 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:53,640 Busch, you guys are idiots. I think I have a little I have 243 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,160 a little bit of a different thought. Just just just quickly, Eric, 244 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:57,920 I don't want to I don't want to derail you, but just for the 245 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,279 record, I just want to say I don't I don't quite agree. I 246 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,000 think I think they got caught up in uh. I think that whole thing 247 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,720 was was actually pretty low key, but then they got they got caught in 248 00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:11,440 the I think they got caught in the culture war trap in a way that 249 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,960 they couldn't they couldn't have foreseen. I think luck. I think bad luck 250 00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:19,000 played a lot to do with that. That. The great thing about these 251 00:26:19,079 --> 00:26:26,680 conversations is there's no wrong answer. Yeah, yeah, they're just I mean, 252 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,720 you don't know and we'll never know. I could be right, you 253 00:26:30,839 --> 00:26:36,039 could be right, or we both could be horribly wrong. Yeah, yeah, 254 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,079 I I just wanted to say that I think I think they got caught 255 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,440 up in h I think it was bad luck. I think I think the 256 00:26:41,519 --> 00:26:47,400 way the culture war is waged, I and I understand you and I come 257 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:52,039 at this from different perspectives. I just think that there's a certain randomness to 258 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,079 it. You just never know, like for example, a lot of conservatives 259 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:59,039 are freaking out about the Barbie movie. You just never know what's going to 260 00:26:59,079 --> 00:27:02,240 get caught up in the culture war. And I think Anne Heiser Busch just 261 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,519 probably they didn't think. They didn't think it was a big deal to give 262 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:10,559 what a Dylan mulvany is that is that their name. Uh didn't think it 263 00:27:10,599 --> 00:27:12,880 was a big deal to give them their own uh Canna bud light, you 264 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,160 know, just and they'll make it, you know, they're an influencer and 265 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,119 whatnot. Didn't think it was gonna be a big deal, and then it 266 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,240 just exploded in their face. I think that I think there's a certain randomness 267 00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:26,599 to how that happens. That's just my theory. And again, you know, 268 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:30,559 that's a great way to look at it. I've never looked at it 269 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:37,440 that way, so yeah, it makes sense to me. But my point 270 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:47,440 on Hollywood is, if if it we really were as all the far right 271 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,960 talking heads want to say, going, go woke, go broke, if 272 00:27:52,039 --> 00:27:56,079 that were really the case, the Barbie movie wouldn't be just completely slaying at 273 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:03,440 the box office right now. Yeah, there's no way. Well, well, 274 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,039 did you see Ben Shapiro. He uh, he was predicting that the 275 00:28:07,079 --> 00:28:11,079 Barbie Movie was going to be a terrible flop, and then it wasn't. 276 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,480 And then he was predicting that, Okay, so it opened really hot, 277 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:18,000 but then it was gonna just you know, fall off a cliff and it 278 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,599 didn't, and and and to his credit, he admits he was wrong. 279 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,039 But but then you get into the whole question of, well, is it 280 00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:27,200 is it? I haven't seen the movie, but what exactly is it? 281 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,319 Is it woke or are people just putting that on it? And then of 282 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,319 course you get into the questions of what does woke even mean? And you 283 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,720 know what I mean? I said this, I've been called I've been called 284 00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:42,119 a homophobe for saying this, and I don't understand why. I've asked, 285 00:28:42,279 --> 00:28:47,839 can you explain to me why I'm a homophobe. I have no desire to 286 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:52,759 see it. I didn't play with Barbies when I was a kid growing up. 287 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,079 Well, I don't have any desire to see it either. But you've 288 00:28:56,119 --> 00:29:00,759 been called the homophobe for not wanting to see the Barbie movie book by a 289 00:29:00,839 --> 00:29:03,319 couple of people. Really if people have called you homophoone for not wanting to 290 00:29:03,359 --> 00:29:08,759 see the Barbie movie apparently because yeah, I'm like, I don't understand it. 291 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:15,599 Like, look, I'm not bashing the movie right now, seeing it's 292 00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:19,319 a horrible film. I'm just saying I look at it and I have no 293 00:29:19,599 --> 00:29:25,440 earthly desire to see it. Yeah, I'm the same. No one's uh, 294 00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:30,680 well, listen, you know I'm in support of you, Eric, 295 00:29:30,759 --> 00:29:33,680 I will I will join you in this. I will also publicly say I 296 00:29:33,759 --> 00:29:37,960 have no desire to see the Barbie movie like I want to see I want 297 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:41,960 to see Oppenheimer more than I want to see Barbie. But my issue with 298 00:29:41,119 --> 00:29:48,200 that is too is there is that Christopher Nolan specifically made it in a style 299 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:56,799 that is best viewed in an IMAX theater. I'm not gonna drive two hours 300 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:03,319 to my nearest Imax theater to see a movie. By the way, Crystal 301 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,160 in the chat room says, I have no idea. I have no desire 302 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:11,000 to see the Barbie movie either. Ah you hoohobeo. No, I'm puzzling, 303 00:30:11,119 --> 00:30:15,240 So I have to ask Eric, when someone says that to you, 304 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,839 do they explain why not wanting to see the Barbie movie makes you a homophobe. 305 00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:25,160 I'm genuinely puzzled by this. Here's how it is with I don't know, 306 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,359 just in my experience with liberals here in Iowa, Yes, and I 307 00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:34,000 don't. I've said that my belief and I've said this on your show many 308 00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:37,400 of times. And if this offends anyone, I am sorry, and you 309 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,039 can message me and we can have a private discussion about it. I believe 310 00:30:41,119 --> 00:30:51,400 there's a difference between democrats and liberals. I can't I believe I can have 311 00:30:51,839 --> 00:31:00,359 a productive, meaningful, non argumentative discussion with a far left leaning demo Cray. 312 00:31:02,119 --> 00:31:11,400 But I believe when you talk to a liberal, you are you're automatically 313 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,720 at a disadvantage because you can try to keep it civil, you can try 314 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:21,440 to keep it on point, you can try to state your case, but 315 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:29,079 you are automatically a racist. Bigoted, homophobic moron. If you don't see 316 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,160 it their way, well that, yeah, well that happens. I was 317 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,640 just gonna say, Eric, that that happens across the spectrum, though I 318 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:37,920 think, see, I don't think it has anything to do with whether someone's 319 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,559 a liberal or not. I think, unfortunately, I think that actually happens 320 00:31:41,599 --> 00:31:48,559 across the political spectrum. I think that just so many people, and unfortunately, 321 00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:52,240 I think more people are wired this way then are not. I think 322 00:31:52,359 --> 00:31:56,559 I think most people, because our politics has become so polarized, most people 323 00:31:56,599 --> 00:32:00,759 are just kind of that's how they think. They think that you either you 324 00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:05,559 see it their way or you're bad. Like a liberal will look at a 325 00:32:05,599 --> 00:32:07,440 conservative and say, well, you don't see this issue. You know, 326 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:12,680 you've got a problem with drag shows or whatever. So you're you're you're the 327 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,160 worst person ever just but but by the same token, of course. You 328 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:22,519 know, I sit here and and talk about just as a random example, 329 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,319 I talk about my support for Medicare for all. I'm sure that there's some 330 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,720 Republican listening who hears me say that, who thinks I'm a I'm a communist 331 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:36,480 and a Stalinist or something. You know what, I mean it's it's it's 332 00:32:36,519 --> 00:32:37,920 all over the I don't think In other words, I don't think it has 333 00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:44,640 I don't think it's about liberals. I think it's everybody, with the people 334 00:32:45,279 --> 00:32:49,920 at least done the left. Yeah, I find it's more prevalent with those 335 00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:52,920 that are proud to say they're a liberal. But it's almost as if the 336 00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:57,599 moment they say I'm proud to be a liberal, they might as well say 337 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,920 I'm never wrong. And if you dare tell me I'm wrong, you're a 338 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,599 pooh pooh head, and I will call it to you till I'm blue in 339 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,039 the face. But you're gonna run into that. But you see, you're 340 00:33:10,079 --> 00:33:14,480 gonna obviously because you as a conservative, you're gonna run into that. With 341 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:20,599 liberals. Oh yeah, I love it. I love it when I'm a 342 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:25,240 conservative, a Christian conservative, yea. And they're like, oh, you 343 00:33:25,359 --> 00:33:29,880 believe in the Bible. Oh, you don't wear clothing with mixed cloth, 344 00:33:30,079 --> 00:33:34,960 do you? And it's like, oh man, it's like, one tell 345 00:33:35,039 --> 00:33:40,400 me you've never read the Bible without saying you've never read the Bible, because 346 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:46,039 that's levitical law. Levitical law was outlawed with the New Covenant. When Christ 347 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:51,839 droves from the grave. Come on, like, if you're gonna insult my 348 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:59,880 religion, at least have a basic knowledge and understanding. Like that's all I 349 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:05,000 right, right, salt Christianity all you want. Yes, she does have 350 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:09,920 a basic understanding. Whenever I hear that argument, I go back to Southerners 351 00:34:10,039 --> 00:34:15,440 that are like, look at the look at the Moslem over there, I 352 00:34:15,599 --> 00:34:21,280 like eating pork. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, really I know or 353 00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:28,519 or or their their draw the prophet Mohammed just like, come aw, no, 354 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,840 I get it, Crystal, Crystal, and the chat says, uh, 355 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:35,960 she agrees with you on democrats versus liberals. And then she said, 356 00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:39,960 I also think there's a difference between most conservative versus the far right Republicans there 357 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:46,159 is. Oh yeah, and that line in Crystal as a conservative, I 358 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:53,440 can tell you you're going to see that line become much thicker and more embedded 359 00:34:53,639 --> 00:35:00,840 in the ground with this cycle coming up. Oh absolutely, absolute right. 360 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:07,639 The far right Republicans are gonna be Trump or die. Oh yeah, the 361 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:13,400 Conservatives. It's already started, Matt, I sent you the website on Facebook. 362 00:35:13,519 --> 00:35:20,280 Oh yes, yes. The first super pat commercials have started to air 363 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,920 here in Iowa, and the first ones are anti Trump. Yes, and 364 00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:31,679 you you also mentioned too that someone left a Mike Pence doorhanger on your doorknob. 365 00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:37,840 Save that for this very purpose, although I think it fell behind my 366 00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:45,639 couch, which is unfortunate. But yeah, it conveyed his personality very well. 367 00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:49,760 Yes, yes, I was not drawn in at all. It was 368 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:55,719 not a William Friedkin film. You know what's funny though about Pence now is 369 00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:04,360 the way the media reacts like he'll he'll, he's starting to he's very very 370 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:12,719 incrementally wading into the water where he very gently increases his harshness in terms of 371 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,199 how he criticizes Trump. And every time, every time he makes another step 372 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,760 into that ocean, the media goes, oh, look at Mike Pence. 373 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:25,440 He's he's starting to really get fired up. General George Patton of the GLP. 374 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:31,599 No, it's like exactly, I was actually gonna say. It's like 375 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:39,440 they're making him out to be like old iron scrotum here. He's just going 376 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:45,119 all in. He's General Ripper from Doctor Strange Love. Yes, Yes, 377 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:52,079 it's like no, this man is is This man is as bland as vanilla 378 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:58,840 yogurt. Yeah, he's just an an empty husk of of a human like 379 00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:07,400 I get more character in Pizzazz out of a container of playing Yo play than 380 00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:14,039 I do aut of watching Mike Pence talk. Yeah, I like, look, 381 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:21,119 I I want my politicians to They don't have to be over the top 382 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,599 and everything like that, but I do want them to have some semblance of 383 00:37:24,679 --> 00:37:30,760 a character. I don't want to look at them and think I'm watching a 384 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:37,480 drone from May Live, right, And that's what I get with Mike Pence. 385 00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:44,360 I actually said at Barnes and Noble and read the first twenty pages of 386 00:37:44,519 --> 00:37:51,559 his book. Oh man, oh really, why? Why what's it like? 387 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:59,039 I haven't read his book obviously it is excruciatingly painful. Why is it 388 00:37:59,159 --> 00:38:06,079 just really dull? Reading the description of paint drying? Yeah, it's like, 389 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:15,239 how is this a New York Times bestseller? Yeah? Well, well 390 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,400 that's uh, that's unfortunate. Well, you know, I mean this whole 391 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,440 campaign is designed to sell books, so that might have something to do with 392 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,199 it that he knows he's not going to be the Nominee's fair. To be 393 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:31,280 fair, I don't read books by the talking heads. I don't read books 394 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:39,079 by Ronda Santists because Ronda Santists gives me the hed GDS. I like Disney 395 00:38:39,199 --> 00:38:46,920 plus too much to really side with. Ron Da santists. Oh, that 396 00:38:47,079 --> 00:38:52,320 reminds me, though, your your candidate of choice, whom you've endorsed, 397 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:58,320 is apparently not really uh campaigning in Iowa? Is he Governor Chris Christie? 398 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:05,760 Is he he has taken the approach of waiting sea in Iowa. Yeah, 399 00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:13,440 it almost as if he's conceded Iowa, which is a dumb move this early 400 00:39:13,559 --> 00:39:19,679 in the game, because I have seen so many, so many candidates pull 401 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,960 it out of their backside and win Iowa. Roback Obama in two thousand and 402 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:30,960 two thousand and eight, he pulled it out of his backside to win John 403 00:39:31,119 --> 00:39:36,519 carry in two thousand and four, when it looked like, oh, his 404 00:39:36,639 --> 00:39:42,159 name escapes me now, the yelling guy, Oh, I know who you're 405 00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:44,800 talking about, Howard Dean. Howard Dean, thank you. Yeah, it 406 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,920 looked like Howard Dean was on his way to winning and becoming the nominee. 407 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,920 And then kind of the the bottom started to fall out a couple of days 408 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:53,880 before the caucus, and then John Kerry, out of nowhere, just ended 409 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,719 up winning, and then of course he went on to win New Hampshire and 410 00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:02,880 everywhere else pretty much. But yeah, so, I mean Iowa is notorious 411 00:40:04,119 --> 00:40:08,760 for that. And it is because and if there are any fellow Iowans watching, 412 00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:15,519 don't at me, don't message me with this, because I will meet 413 00:40:15,599 --> 00:40:19,159 you and I will tell you to your face. We are some of the 414 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:27,719 most wishy washy voters in the nation. How we got first in the nation 415 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:35,480 is beyond me, because I have seen caucus chairs change their mind of who 416 00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:39,280 they're supporting in the middle of a caucus. Yeah, it is like, 417 00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:46,000 you are a caucus chair, you should at least be iron clad in where 418 00:40:46,119 --> 00:40:52,039 you stand right now. Well, if it's the chair, you can sit. 419 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:58,280 That was not a good joke, man, Oh, I'm sorry, 420 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,360 No, I was. Well, you know, I don't. We have 421 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,239 a primary here, so I don't. I don't know much about how this 422 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:07,360 works. I don't even know how a caucus works because everyone I've taken a 423 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:13,320 part of has been so unorganized. Yeah, I have seen, I've seen 424 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,519 there are probably I can't say because that might be for Matt Connerton unsheathed, 425 00:41:19,079 --> 00:41:24,199 but I'm sure there are adult entertainment shows in Tijuana that are better organized than 426 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:31,840 the Iowa caucuses. That's that's very specific. Yeah, you've told me about 427 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:37,159 your participation and a couple of caucuses in the past, and what a nightmare 428 00:41:37,159 --> 00:41:40,199 it was. Yeah, like in the middle of a in the middle of 429 00:41:40,679 --> 00:41:45,000 account, someone leaves to go to the bathroom and it's like, oh, 430 00:41:46,119 --> 00:41:50,880 I actually heard someone say this, Go follow them and find out who they 431 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:58,679 want. Wait, no, that is not how this works. Is there 432 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,639 ever any I may have asked you this before, but is there ever any 433 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,480 talk there about switching to a primary, because I know, I know a 434 00:42:05,559 --> 00:42:08,559 couple of states over the you know, decades of have switched. There are 435 00:42:08,639 --> 00:42:14,360 not as many caucuses as there used to be. We we have, and 436 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:21,519 for whatever reason, like it just doesn't go very far. And I think 437 00:42:21,599 --> 00:42:28,079 it's because we are so stuck in our ways. Yeah, I mean we 438 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,000 really are. It's oh, well, this is what the people know, 439 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,840 so this is what's going to work. Well, obviously the people don't know 440 00:42:37,039 --> 00:42:43,239 because it's disorganized. Yeah, well maybe where you were at. No, 441 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,400 if you go on to any form of social media, you can look on 442 00:42:47,519 --> 00:42:53,400 the night of the Iowa caucuses and see many many areas talking about how disorganized 443 00:42:53,480 --> 00:43:00,280 it was. Yeah, no doubt. I mean It's just it's like, 444 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:05,679 really, how can we be this stupid, in this naive to think we 445 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:12,480 have it all right because we don't. Hey, it's already well before we 446 00:43:12,599 --> 00:43:14,760 run out of time. I want to ask you about this. This is 447 00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:19,440 a bit of a turn. But have you been so have you been following 448 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:25,079 the newest Stephen Crowder? News Media has this story I sent you. I'm 449 00:43:25,199 --> 00:43:30,159 sorry, I did not sign that NDA. You said, yes, Media 450 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:38,119 it has the story for Stephen Crowder's staffer's exit show after interrogations and insane NDAs, 451 00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:44,760 which is of course a non disclosure agreement. He's the gift that just 452 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:51,239 keeps on giving. There's always something with Stephen Crowder ahead. He is like 453 00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:55,199 a herpie of media. You think it's gone away, and then there's a 454 00:43:55,320 --> 00:44:00,880 flare up. Well apparently two there there might be some pam because so he's 455 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:06,519 abandoned YouTube for a Rumble. I guess he signed that exclusive deal with Rumble 456 00:44:07,039 --> 00:44:12,079 and now his numbers are tanking on Rumble. Have you seen this? I 457 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,800 if we recall and I you've known me long enough, Matt. I'm never 458 00:44:17,199 --> 00:44:22,960 a guy that likes to say I told you so. Yeah, I'm never 459 00:44:22,039 --> 00:44:25,199 a guy that likes to say, oh, I was right, look at 460 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:30,480 me. Unless it's about sports, then I will put anything else. Now, 461 00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:37,480 I did say he would not do well on Rumble. Yeah, And 462 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:45,599 I the thing with him is is I love I love this analogy I use 463 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:52,400 because it just fits. It's Howard Stern syndrome with Stephen Crowder. The average 464 00:44:52,639 --> 00:45:00,239 Crowder hater probably listens longer than the average Crowder listener because they want to hear 465 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:07,599 what he's going to say next that can make them mad. Yeah, if 466 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:13,960 on Rumble, you're not going to get the viewers We're going to get on 467 00:45:14,159 --> 00:45:20,920 YouTube or on the Blaze or on anywhere else. I mean he used I 468 00:45:21,079 --> 00:45:27,280 think he used to contribute to Fox News a little bit. Even Fox News 469 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:32,719 was like, uh no, you no, we can't, we can't do 470 00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:38,599 this. They had Pucker Carlson and they told you you're too much right. 471 00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:46,079 Yeah, I will give him. Look, I mean I will respect. 472 00:45:46,199 --> 00:45:50,360 I will give him this much respect. And this is about as much respect 473 00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,639 as Oliver give him. But I mean it was a gutsy move because it 474 00:45:54,840 --> 00:46:00,280 was a gamble right to go with Rumble. And he could have been he 475 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,400 could have been the marquee name I guess he is the marquee name at Rumble, 476 00:46:02,599 --> 00:46:06,159 right, But Rumble could have really, you know, this could have 477 00:46:06,199 --> 00:46:09,880 worked, and Rumble could have really blown up and and and him with it 478 00:46:10,039 --> 00:46:15,159 and been very, very successful. So it was a big, big gamble, 479 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,360 and it looks like it's not paying off. And I've said too from 480 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,519 the beginning, if you push all your chips into the center of the table 481 00:46:22,559 --> 00:46:30,199 and you only have one hand, yeah, I mean you really where he 482 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:37,000 screwed up, In my opinion, it is when he took on the Daily 483 00:46:37,159 --> 00:46:45,480 Wire. Oh yeah, when he did it like you, you ripped your 484 00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:49,480 nose off to spite your face. No one will ever trust him again after 485 00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:55,639 doing that. Well that and I guarantee you more of your audience listens to 486 00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:01,480 Ben Shapiro, and it feels more of a connection with Ben Shapiro than they 487 00:47:01,559 --> 00:47:06,480 do. You. Right, if you're going to be a conservative talking head, 488 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,599 you don't tug on Superman's cake, you don't spit in the wind, 489 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:17,639 and you don't bought heads with Ben Shapiro. Yeah that is I think you're 490 00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:22,679 right. Yeah, And you know, and I said from the beginning too, 491 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,760 I mean I would never root for Crowder, but I have been rooting 492 00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:30,280 for Rumble, which might surprise some people because I'm not a conservative, and 493 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,559 Rumble seems to be where all the conservatives are going who don't want to put 494 00:47:32,639 --> 00:47:36,440 up with YouTube anymore. But I do like having an alternative. You know, 495 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,199 I've had my own issues with YouTube where I thought, you know, 496 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:44,880 I was getting dinged for content and I thought it was not fair, So 497 00:47:45,199 --> 00:47:49,239 you know, I like having alternatives. No, and I think that that's 498 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:54,840 an unfair characterization of Rumble, but I totally I do agree with you. 499 00:47:55,000 --> 00:48:02,079 It's what's happened because it's mainly conservatives that went after YouTube ban them, either 500 00:48:04,519 --> 00:48:13,000 either rightfully or wrongfully for COVID nineteen theories. Right now, my issue is 501 00:48:13,199 --> 00:48:17,800 is that you have some knuckle dragging mouth breathers, especially from the rampid area 502 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:28,039 of New Jerk Pokeepsie, that get a stay on YouTube and spout their idiotic, 503 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,480 moronic and stupid theories on life, and nothing ever seems to happen to 504 00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:37,880 them. But right there, yeah, well, you know sometimes people like 505 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,840 that they have such small followings, they kind of fly under the radar, 506 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:45,679 I think is what happens there. I mean, you know, you can 507 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:50,199 you can be a star too, I guess, and you know, win 508 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,159 the ratings, by the way, roof, by the way. And this 509 00:48:54,400 --> 00:49:00,760 is I have not heard a single other person in any of me, online 510 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:02,559 or otherwise say this. So I want to. I want to start this 511 00:49:04,039 --> 00:49:08,239 rumor about Stephen Crowder. And I can do this without fear of any reprisal 512 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:13,960 or repercussions because he's obviously famous and he doesn't know I exist. So I'll 513 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:20,239 this one pins from the issues with his wife and now this he has far 514 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,599 greater concerns at this point. He's got it. He's got his hands full. 515 00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,719 Yes, The rumor that I would like to spread about him is that 516 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:30,280 he lies about his age. And here's why I think this could catch on 517 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,559 because I'm looking at this picture of him Eric, and I don't know if 518 00:49:34,559 --> 00:49:37,239 if you ever really looked at the guy. This is a thirty six year 519 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,559 old man. And the picture I'm looking at is not a thirty six year 520 00:49:40,559 --> 00:49:44,000 old man. That's not a thirty six year old man in that picture. 521 00:49:44,039 --> 00:49:47,320 He's at least ten years older than he claims. Now, do I really 522 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,800 think that that's the case. No, I have no evidence for that. 523 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,400 Some people just age poorly, but he doesn't look like a thirty six year 524 00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:59,440 old man. To me, Well, you join me in this spreading this 525 00:49:59,559 --> 00:50:05,719 rumor that who lies about his age because he's aged horribly. He looks really 526 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:10,800 bad. I'm four years older than he allegedly is. Yeah, you look 527 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:20,480 younger than he does. I feel, even with type two diabetes and diverticulosis, 528 00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:27,840 that I look better than Stephen Crowder. Yeah. Well I'm older than 529 00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:30,920 you, and I look better than Stephen Crowder. I mean, I mean 530 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:36,360 great, I have great skin, but he's got I mean I'm looking at 531 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:37,840 him and I'm not even say of this to be just to be funny. 532 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,760 I mean kind of to be funny, but I'm also serious when I say 533 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:45,480 this. He looks like he's aged, like in the last two years, 534 00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:51,079 like he's aged a decade. It's almost it's actually a little bit unsettling. 535 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:52,960 Now granted, I mean it does happen. Look at Keith Richards. You 536 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,599 know, Keith Richards, when he was in his twenties, he looked like 537 00:50:55,679 --> 00:50:58,840 he was forty, and then by the time he was forty, looked like 538 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,480 he was sixteen. You know what happens. There's a guy who used to 539 00:51:00,519 --> 00:51:05,400 be on MSNBC, Dylan Ratigan always looked ten years older than his actual age. 540 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,519 Apparently when he was in high school he was able to buy alcohol for 541 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,760 him and all his friends. So it happens. I mean some you know, 542 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:15,000 everybody ages a little bit differently, and there's a difference between chronological age 543 00:51:15,039 --> 00:51:19,360 and biological age. But the weird thing with Crowder is I thought he, 544 00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:22,199 you know, he's like a health and fitness guy, like he's got all 545 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,960 the big muscles and everything, but his face it's all saggygy. He looks 546 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:29,039 like he's uh, I don't know. I don't know what's going on there. 547 00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:36,880 Here's what's interesting about his quote unquote health and fitness is there. I 548 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:43,119 happen to remember that there were allegations that he was heavy into steroid us. 549 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:50,440 Oh I believe that. Look at him. And shortly shortly after that, 550 00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:59,480 he had that major shoulder injury that caused him to wear that harness on air. 551 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:06,480 Oh yes, yes, yes, yes I think happened. Is he 552 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:13,920 quit doing ROYD called Turkey and he got injured himself. Oh that could be 553 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:19,360 that might explain some of his behavior too. Oh yeah, oh yeah, 554 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:28,599 like he Yeah, if I would be more shocked if he if it came 555 00:52:28,639 --> 00:52:31,840 out that he never touched steroids, than I would be if it if he 556 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:37,920 was the biggest juicer on God's Green Earth. Yeah. Yeah, he is 557 00:52:37,039 --> 00:52:45,639 a big muscle guy. I mean, his muscles aren't fist bad, but 558 00:52:45,639 --> 00:52:50,320 he's up there with the liver king Like. You just look at him and 559 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:55,159 you're like, that is not natural. There is a supplement I know that 560 00:52:55,280 --> 00:53:00,360 you can take that will help you to lose weight. And Steve Crowder, 561 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,280 of course somebody who doesn't like to have any fat on him, that apparently 562 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,559 also causes what they call the slang term for it is old face. It 563 00:53:09,199 --> 00:53:14,079 it helps you lose weight and get very lean, but it also ages your 564 00:53:14,159 --> 00:53:16,320 face. And it occurs to me, And this I hadn't thought of before, 565 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,400 But as I look at this picture of Stephen Crowder from the media article, 566 00:53:20,599 --> 00:53:22,480 I think that's what happened to him. He's got he's got, he's 567 00:53:22,519 --> 00:53:30,039 got a very old face on a very muscular body. I mean yeah, 568 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,519 And I can't get this out of my head now. It also occurs to 569 00:53:34,599 --> 00:53:37,639 me. Anyone who's just tuning into the show for the first time is probably 570 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:42,480 like, what is this? But welcome this is Matt Connerston unleashed. If 571 00:53:42,519 --> 00:53:46,960 you're just joining us, but this is mind blowing. Like I'm looking at 572 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:52,639 a picture of him from the early Louder with Crowder days. Yeah, he 573 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:58,480 had like a hardcore baby face. Yeah, and look at him now, 574 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,760 that's a thirty six year old man, and he looks like he looks so 575 00:54:02,119 --> 00:54:07,199 much older. It's weird. It's weird. Well, he is Canadian. 576 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,159 Maybe those Canadian winters, you know, they do something to you. I 577 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,960 mean, obviously he doesn't anymore. Well that's true, but he might go 578 00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:19,519 home to visit and like he might spend the holidays with family up in Canada 579 00:54:19,599 --> 00:54:23,400 and being exposed to those Canadian winters for that brief time, it destroyed his 580 00:54:23,559 --> 00:54:25,960 face. I don't know what happened there. All right, we gotta Eric, 581 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,639 We have to begin to wrap up. It go so quickly. Always 582 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,360 enjoy our Wednesdays with you, my favorite conservative, as I like to say. 583 00:54:34,119 --> 00:54:37,039 But before we go, and we do have to stick to the schedule 584 00:54:37,079 --> 00:54:39,519 because we have a great musical guest who's gonna be skyping in at five pm. 585 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:45,480 But do you want to give a plug for this Friday's film review? 586 00:54:45,159 --> 00:54:52,880 Yeah? I sure, can this week is uh mafia film unlike any other. 587 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:59,880 It's the nineteen ninety seven movie Donnie Brasco, based on a true story. 588 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:06,719 I've actually read the book Donnie Brasco, and it is probably one of 589 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:15,199 the truest depictions of mafia life ever put on the screen. And with one 590 00:55:15,199 --> 00:55:19,199 of my favorite actors, as we discussed earlier, Alpaccino. Oh, Johnny 591 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:25,360 Depp, the late Ann Hasch, Michael Madsen is in it. Just an 592 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:35,159 amazing cast. Yeah, absolutely is in this film and just such a heartbreaking 593 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:42,760 story and really the lines of morality get blurred. And that's based on a 594 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,000 true story, right, Yes, it is based off an FBI agent, 595 00:55:46,199 --> 00:55:54,320 Joe pis Stone, that went undercover into the Banano crime family and was on 596 00:55:54,719 --> 00:56:04,480 the It was almost set to get made up. Yep. Yeah, true, 597 00:56:05,079 --> 00:56:08,800 they were gonna make him. And the only thing that stopped him is 598 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:14,239 what you have to do to get made yep, yep. You have to 599 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,920 make your bones. You have to murder someone, yea, Otherwise the FBI 600 00:56:19,039 --> 00:56:21,920 would have went with it. Yep. Yeah, it's a hell of a 601 00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,239 story. Well, we look forward to that. Eric, always love your 602 00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:28,400 film reviews. It is a very popular segment here on the program. And 603 00:56:28,599 --> 00:56:32,960 uh and yeah, I enjoyed doing them. And we'll here probably next week. 604 00:56:34,039 --> 00:56:37,400 We'll have a big announcement about September that you're already aware of, Matty. 605 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,840 Yes, yes, excellent, excellent, very good, All right, 606 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,360 Eric, Eric Pilcher from Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Always always enjoy it, 607 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,960 my friend, Thank you so much, thanks as always, thanks for having 608 00:56:49,039 --> 00:56:51,000 me, Matt It was a pleasure. You got it, all right, 609 00:56:51,079 --> 00:56:54,559 take care, bye bye bye. All right, there we go. Always 610 00:56:54,639 --> 00:56:58,679 nice to talk with Eric on Wednesday, and we're gonna take a quick breakshow 611 00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,679 some love to our amazing response. Then when we come back, we're gonna 612 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:07,960 play a song poly morphic by Choli who or Chollie. Have to ask her 613 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:12,719 how to pronounce it at h O l l y. I think it's Sholly 614 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,960 because it's like Holly but with a sea at the beginning. But she'll explain 615 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,480 the origin of her name. That's her stage name. But she's gonna be 616 00:57:17,519 --> 00:57:21,480 skyping in all the way from the UK, so we look forward to that. 617 00:57:21,679 --> 00:57:24,559 So we've got plenty more to come. We'll take a quick break, 618 00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:30,199 don't go away, come on down to the hop Knot at one thousand Elms 619 00:57:30,239 --> 00:57:34,920 Street, Manchester's premiere craft beer and gourmet pretzel bar. Tell us More at 620 00:57:35,039 --> 00:57:37,519 Rudy, we make our dough fresh every day. We make a variety of 621 00:57:37,639 --> 00:57:43,159 styles of pretzels and serve Kraft Beer, cocktails and a few bottles of wine. 622 00:57:43,239 --> 00:57:46,119 We do the traditional pretzel and we have multiple flavors for that. 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Wnh rip the novels to con don't make 640 01:00:14,239 --> 01:00:46,599 meson to see you. You don't know me me. This a love that 641 01:00:47,079 --> 01:02:15,519 you, A love you to. One thing must be people that you to 642 01:02:15,760 --> 01:03:15,159 bet that you d stand, that you und you. It's good stuff. 643 01:03:15,159 --> 01:03:20,360 I like it. That as polymorphic from Charlie and we're going to be bringing 644 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,719 her in in just a moment a via Skype. This is Matt Connerton Unleashed 645 01:03:24,039 --> 01:03:29,079 and we are live from the studios of wm n H ninety five point three 646 01:03:29,159 --> 01:03:35,480 FM and Glorious Downtown Manchester, New Hampshire now also on Channel six on Comcast 647 01:03:35,519 --> 01:03:37,199 if you're in Manchester, and of course hello to all of our online listeners 648 01:03:37,199 --> 01:03:40,360 across the nation and around the globe. You can go to my website Matt 649 01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:44,880 Connerton dot com for all your live streaming options, social media links, contact 650 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,039 info, show archives, et cetera, et cetera. Today is Wednesday, 651 01:03:47,119 --> 01:03:52,840 August nine, two thousand twenty three. And Charlie, are you there? 652 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,599 Yep? Kenny, hey, yes, yes, I can hear you. 653 01:03:55,679 --> 01:04:00,360 Great. Am I pronouncing your name correctly as it Charlie? Yeah? Yeah, 654 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:01,760 that's correct. Yeah, okay, good good. I wasn't sure if 655 01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,800 it was showy because I read online that your name's Chloe, and I didn't 656 01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:06,920 know if it was supposed to rhyme with Chloe. And all right, I'm 657 01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:10,440 glad I'm saying it correctly. But then I thought, well, it looks 658 01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,800 like Holly but with a C, so maybe it's Sholly. So my first 659 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,079 instinct was corrected. Yes, so very good. Yeah, yeah, definitely 660 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,760 very good. Well, welcome and uh and I'm so glad that we were 661 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:24,639 able to get connected so easily, because sometimes when people are skyping in from 662 01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,639 other continents. You know, there's technical snaff who's and whatnot, but this 663 01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,000 was pretty seamless, so it's wonderful to talk with you. Yeah, I 664 01:04:31,079 --> 01:04:34,159 love that track, and I opened the show today with Circles and got a 665 01:04:34,199 --> 01:04:38,480 lot of positive feedback in our Facebook live chat, people really liking it. 666 01:04:39,119 --> 01:04:43,400 And your music is yeah, yeah, And you know, I've always really 667 01:04:43,599 --> 01:04:49,679 loved electronic music. And I was reading a little bit online too about how 668 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:54,119 you approach what you do, and it sounds like you've got you've got a 669 01:04:54,239 --> 01:05:00,639 unique process. But tell us about tell us about your music what and kind 670 01:05:00,639 --> 01:05:06,000 of give us an idea about how you approach it. So I think each 671 01:05:06,159 --> 01:05:11,719 song I approach differently, So it's not like a set in stone way that 672 01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:18,039 I approach everything. But I tend to design my sounds from recordings I get 673 01:05:19,159 --> 01:05:25,719 that are just in everyday life that I enjoy. So, for example, 674 01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:34,760 what can I say, so polymorphic the one that just played that's made almost 675 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:41,199 completely out of some us and ours that I just played around with all of 676 01:05:41,239 --> 01:05:46,599 the synth sounds and everything. Really yeah, and it was half made live 677 01:05:46,719 --> 01:05:53,199 on stream and then half made off stream. When i'd sort of designed the 678 01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:57,519 sounds that I wanted to make. Yeah, so is there is there an 679 01:05:57,559 --> 01:06:00,679 element of improvisation then to what you're doing when you're putting these songs together. 680 01:06:03,039 --> 01:06:09,000 It depends which song. So on my album there are a few songs that 681 01:06:09,119 --> 01:06:13,880 were made partially on stream improvising. Wow. And then there are songs that 682 01:06:14,519 --> 01:06:20,119 were completely off stream, completely just in the dark, planning and all that 683 01:06:20,239 --> 01:06:25,760 sort of thing. But yeah, my live streams that I do, they're 684 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:29,360 completely improvised, and I just take sounds and I play with them until I 685 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:33,679 find a sound that I like and then make melodies and then I pull from 686 01:06:34,039 --> 01:06:40,239 those to make other songs. Usually that's something that works quite well for me. 687 01:06:41,719 --> 01:06:44,960 Our friend maryam Banish in the Facebook live chat says, I love your 688 01:06:45,039 --> 01:06:48,920 sound, Charlie, oh, thank you. Yeah, and our delf I've 689 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:56,079 also really really likes what you're doing. Did you when you started making music? 690 01:06:56,199 --> 01:07:00,280 Did you did you start that way where it's sort of became as your 691 01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:04,800 approach to it is obviously unique. I've never heard anyone else really explain explain 692 01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:09,119 it that way in terms of what they do on the live stream. And 693 01:07:09,199 --> 01:07:15,000 then I mean, did you always have an experimental element to what you do. 694 01:07:16,239 --> 01:07:21,119 Yeah, yeah, I think so. I think it's sort of started. 695 01:07:21,719 --> 01:07:25,599 Well, I played instruments from a young age, but I didn't ever 696 01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:31,960 record anything really. Then when I started making music, I didn't really know 697 01:07:32,239 --> 01:07:36,599 how to make the sounds I wanted to make. So I just sort of 698 01:07:38,119 --> 01:07:43,719 imitated some sounds I liked, if that makes sense, and they played with 699 01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:53,679 them in software until they sort of sounded how I wanted. Yeah, and 700 01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:58,840 then now I saw I forget if it was a video or well, I 701 01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:00,480 think I did see a video on you two a bet. But also there's 702 01:08:00,519 --> 01:08:06,039 some some pictures online of when you're performing live or I don't know if it's 703 01:08:06,079 --> 01:08:11,000 live or in studio what I'm seeing online. But what is what is it 704 01:08:11,199 --> 01:08:15,599 that you're using? You're using a machine or a device of some sort. 705 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:19,359 Uh, but I'm not sure is it? Well, you tell us what 706 01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:23,079 is it that you're using that you're because you're not, it's not it doesn't 707 01:08:23,079 --> 01:08:26,600 look like you're playing a keyboard, but you're you're pushing buttons on something. 708 01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:30,520 Yeah, so that that would be a trigger pad. So I've been using 709 01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:35,279 an APC forty and I link it up to my software, which is Ableton, 710 01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:40,800 and I put all the samples into Ableton, and and then I trigger 711 01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:45,000 the things that I want to trigger, and I can automate effects and things 712 01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:49,359 using the same device. Yeah, so is that what you do live? 713 01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:55,680 Then? Yeah? So I don't. I don't tend to play instruments live 714 01:08:55,760 --> 01:09:01,479 because I developed a repetitive strain injury. Oh that's really it's just been really 715 01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:05,720 bad for six years. Oh wow, no kidding. So I had to 716 01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:10,840 find a new approach. And I was singing to backing tracks for a while, 717 01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:15,520 which is fine, but it didn't really feel very me to sing to 718 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:19,880 a backing track. I'm not really sort of, I'm not really a dancy 719 01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:25,000 person. I'm not really a performing plus. I like to get stuck into 720 01:09:25,079 --> 01:09:31,199 my computer and play with things live, so having the APC forty and a 721 01:09:31,279 --> 01:09:35,760 microphone at the same time works really well for me. So when you play 722 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:42,319 live using the APC forty, do the songs? Do you perform them the 723 01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:45,800 same as how they are on the album? Really not, That's what I 724 01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:50,840 suspected. Yeah, yeah, I've sort of do live remixes of them. 725 01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:57,800 I am trying to get some together that are like how they actually are on 726 01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:03,000 the album. And stuff because I should really, but it's just so fun 727 01:10:03,159 --> 01:10:09,520 to just improvise. Yeah, yeah, well I think that's cool because I 728 01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:15,920 know and there's This is my perspective on this is kind of unusual because a 729 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,760 lot of people, at least in America, and I don't know if it's 730 01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:21,800 different there, but a lot of people here they talk about how when they 731 01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:26,720 go to see a band live or a solo artist or whomever, they like 732 01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:31,319 to hear the songs played or at least sound close to what they hear in 733 01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:35,840 the recordings. And my attitude about it has always been if I go to 734 01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:41,039 see somebody live and they play a song and I, you know, it's 735 01:10:41,119 --> 01:10:44,359 close enough that I can recognize what song it is, but it's a different 736 01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:47,239 version of it, there's some element of surprise, you know, maybe they're 737 01:10:47,319 --> 01:10:53,760 just you know, maybe it's heavier, maybe there's maybe it's stripped down because 738 01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:57,479 they don't have all the instrumentation that they would have available for the recording or 739 01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:01,279 whatever it is. However, it's different. I actually enjoy that, and 740 01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:05,119 I'm always, to be honest with you, I'm always a little bit surprised 741 01:11:05,680 --> 01:11:10,239 that there aren't more people who enjoy that. But I like it when I 742 01:11:10,319 --> 01:11:14,880 go to see somebody live and it's not exactly like it is on the recording, 743 01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:16,239 you know, I think it's I think it makes it more interesting. 744 01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:20,840 Yeah. I think I'm sort of the same as you when it comes to 745 01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:26,079 that sort of thing, even though when you go in and see a band 746 01:11:26,239 --> 01:11:30,880 and they play everything pretty much the same, but then they do sort of 747 01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:33,840 an extended jam right towards the end. I like that sort of thing. 748 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:38,720 It's it's nice. Oh yeah, absolutely. We have a question for you 749 01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:42,199 in the chat room. Are Dell five is asking about influences. Who are 750 01:11:42,279 --> 01:11:47,079 your musical influences. I always find this difficult because I listened to a lot 751 01:11:47,159 --> 01:11:57,079 of artists. I've always really liked Enya, which might sound like it doesn't 752 01:11:57,159 --> 01:12:00,399 match. I don't know, but I've always really liked Enya. I like 753 01:12:01,079 --> 01:12:04,960 Fortet. I don't know if you've heard of Vartet or no. No, 754 01:12:06,079 --> 01:12:16,319 there's Fortet, sort of electronic IDM sort of stuff. Bnobo, another IDM 755 01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:25,239 artist, and an artist called Lidmore. She's from Denmark and she's she's really 756 01:12:25,279 --> 01:12:31,600 cool. Yeah. I could probably go on forever about music I like, 757 01:12:32,319 --> 01:12:36,439 and they're probably influences. Yeah, influences me. But yeah, yeah. 758 01:12:38,319 --> 01:12:42,319 Now when you what instruments do you play or did you play? You said 759 01:12:42,319 --> 01:12:45,079 it's difficult for you to play now, but did you play multiple instruments? 760 01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:51,800 Yeah? Yeah, So my main instruments were violin and piano. I still 761 01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:57,840 play them from time to time. The violin is the worst one for the 762 01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:00,640 problem I have, so that's the one I play the least, but I 763 01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:04,039 do still pick it up occasionally. Yeah. The piano I can still play, 764 01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:10,720 but I have to be careful. Yeah. So I just have to 765 01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:14,560 be careful not to play it too much, which is hard when you enjoyed 766 01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,279 playing it for hours and hours. I just don't play it for hours and 767 01:13:17,359 --> 01:13:21,560 hours anymore. Yeah, yeah, but I do still do sort of. 768 01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:27,520 I'm doing some stripped back versions of songs on my album. I'm actually going 769 01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:31,199 to make one of Polymorphic, which you just played, and that's going to 770 01:13:31,239 --> 01:13:35,680 be piano and vocals. Oh cool, very cool. And what about as 771 01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:42,000 far as your vocals, did you have you had training or are you self 772 01:13:42,079 --> 01:13:44,319 taught? I made a lot of great singers who were self taught, and 773 01:13:44,359 --> 01:13:46,000 it always surprises me, like, how do you how did you figure out 774 01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:51,439 how to sing? Like that. But did you have lessons or Oh no, 775 01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:56,439 I didn't have lessons. I mean I had like piano lessons and violin 776 01:13:56,560 --> 01:14:00,279 lessons and part of that part of the exam for that, we did have 777 01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:06,960 to like repeat musical phrases back in the exams by singing. Okay, that's 778 01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:11,720 probably the closest I got to that. But I just enjoyed it. Yeah, 779 01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,880 I enjoyed singing like Phantom of the Opera and stuff like that with my 780 01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:18,760 mom. Wow, no kidding. Yeah, yeah, so there's something fun 781 01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:26,760 to do you come from a musical family, Oh yeah, definitely, definitely. 782 01:14:28,399 --> 01:14:30,319 So so it sounds like you partly learned how to sing from singing with 783 01:14:30,399 --> 01:14:35,399 your mom. Yeah yeah, very cool. Now that's a good way to 784 01:14:36,199 --> 01:14:39,479 you know, if you come from a musical family, that always helps. 785 01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:43,319 It gives you, gives you a good start. And can you tell me 786 01:14:43,359 --> 01:14:46,239 about the now I saw I think you have more than one music video. 787 01:14:46,279 --> 01:14:51,079 I know I saw one. Looked like it was kind of dark, kind 788 01:14:51,079 --> 01:14:56,199 of a dark vibe, but but it worked for the song. How many 789 01:14:56,279 --> 01:14:58,960 music videos do you have? I know you have at least two, right, 790 01:15:00,079 --> 01:15:02,600 Oh I don't actually, I can't think off the top of my head? 791 01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,479 How many I have? Real I do definitely have at least two. 792 01:15:06,199 --> 01:15:10,399 Yeah, yeah, I've got I've got more than two. Yeah, I 793 01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:15,640 can't think the exact number. Do you work with somebody on those who helps 794 01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:17,279 produce those? Or do you do those on your own? It's it's amazing 795 01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,119 what you can do now with the technology we have, you know, just 796 01:15:20,239 --> 01:15:27,079 by yourself. So my partner Connor, he helps me make them. So 797 01:15:27,199 --> 01:15:30,640 we both did film and television production. Oh no, kidding as a course, 798 01:15:31,079 --> 01:15:35,199 Yeah, So it's it's quite a good team really when when we both 799 01:15:35,279 --> 01:15:40,560 team up. Yeah, yeah, very good, very good. Now, 800 01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:45,159 how many how many albums do you have? You've got Anomaly, which obviously 801 01:15:45,279 --> 01:15:46,960 is the newest that came out in what may I think of this year? 802 01:15:48,319 --> 01:15:55,680 Yeah? Yeah, eight prol late April. Yeah, okay, So I 803 01:15:55,760 --> 01:16:00,239 don't really have any others that I considered to be albums, just EPs go. 804 01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:06,159 So there's three other EPs that I've got. They're all on streaming services. 805 01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:15,439 My recent one, before a normally was The day Dream, okay, 806 01:16:15,279 --> 01:16:20,880 and before that is Friday Night. Friday Night is made of a bunch of 807 01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:30,199 songs that I made on Friday nights Friday Night makes sense, And for some 808 01:16:30,399 --> 01:16:35,840 reason, my brain has just forgotten what my first ever EP is. I'm 809 01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:40,840 not sure why that's happened, but that's okay, you'll come back to me. 810 01:16:41,199 --> 01:16:45,239 It's on streaming services. It's on there. Yeah. Yeah. Has 811 01:16:45,279 --> 01:16:49,479 your sound changed over time, because I would imagine with you know, because 812 01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:55,520 you like to experiment as far as how you make your music. Has has 813 01:16:55,600 --> 01:16:59,239 it? Has it changed? If I go back and listen to listen to 814 01:16:59,319 --> 01:17:04,960 your first he doesn't sound different. Yeah. I think like there's a lot 815 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:09,880 of things that I have kept kind of the same, but I've gotten a 816 01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:16,359 bit more confident. I think that the main change is confidence and also knowing 817 01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:26,239 how to mix my songs, because I didn't really know how to mix anything 818 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:31,119 when I first started. I was just just sort of making stuff. Sure, 819 01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:35,520 yeah, learning as I went along. But that's something else that that 820 01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:43,520 kind of helps with. He's really good at mixing. He's good at actually 821 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:48,720 sitting down and learning things that he needs to learn, whereas I'm very good 822 01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:55,119 at being distracted and just making more things. No, that's good though. 823 01:17:55,199 --> 01:17:57,640 So it sounds like so that the two of you together kind of keep that 824 01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,119 part in the house. Right then you're you're you're doing all the recording and 825 01:18:00,159 --> 01:18:05,840 the mixing yourselves, and yeah, yeah, pretty much, which is good 826 01:18:06,199 --> 01:18:13,239 because it's affordable as well, right right, Well, it gives you a 827 01:18:13,319 --> 01:18:17,159 lot of control over everything, too, which I would imagine is pretty liberating, 828 01:18:17,239 --> 01:18:19,640 you know. I mean, granted, you know, a lot of 829 01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:25,000 artists like to go to a studio and you know, have an engineer who 830 01:18:25,119 --> 01:18:29,359 very often becomes a de facto producer and so forth. But at the same 831 01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:30,880 time, if you can do everything yourself, that gives you a lot of 832 01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:34,399 freedom. You know. It's you know, you don't have to worry about 833 01:18:34,439 --> 01:18:38,800 pleasing anybody else or somebody trying to tell you, oh, I don't like 834 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,199 the sound of that. You know, you can just truly be true to 835 01:18:41,279 --> 01:18:43,840 your true to your art, you know, and make what it is that 836 01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:48,039 you want to hear and you know, and then hopefully other people like it 837 01:18:48,119 --> 01:18:50,279 too. And you know, I think it's really good. Like I said, 838 01:18:50,319 --> 01:18:55,560 you know, I've always enjoyed electronic music, and I think what you're 839 01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,640 doing, it's it's very creative and it really kind of you know, these 840 01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:03,479 songs pull you in. I was listening earlier, I was listening to You've 841 01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:06,560 got a song, I forget which one it's on Anomaly. It's it's like 842 01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:10,279 seven minutes long, and I was just listening to it. Oh, story, 843 01:19:10,319 --> 01:19:12,319 story, story, Yeah, yeah, the song at the end, 844 01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:14,359 and it just doesn't you know, you get to the end of it, 845 01:19:14,399 --> 01:19:16,560 it doesn't feel like it was seven minutes, you know, And I'm a 846 01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:21,760 yeah, yeah, and I'm I'm a I'm a radio guy, so I 847 01:19:23,079 --> 01:19:25,840 kind of it's easy for me to just kind of know how long things are. 848 01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:27,920 And I was like, oh, that doesn't seem like it was seven 849 01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:32,000 minutes. So yeah, So I really like And by the way, your 850 01:19:32,159 --> 01:19:34,880 approach to lyrics, you know, the lyrics are interesting. They're very sort 851 01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:39,800 of that's part of what I think, you know, pulls me in when 852 01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:44,000 I'm listening. But do you have any specific approach to lyrics. Is there 853 01:19:44,119 --> 01:19:47,279 any kind of an overarching theme to your music or is it is it kind 854 01:19:47,279 --> 01:19:51,279 of just more whatever you're you're feeling and that's what you put into it, 855 01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:58,479 or yeah, it's usually whatever I'm feeling at the time, or sort of 856 01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:05,039 thinking of a perspect active on something like for example, polymorphic is like looking 857 01:20:05,119 --> 01:20:11,439 at love from the perspective of it comes in lots of different forms, and 858 01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:15,079 sometimes it doesn't come in the form that you wanted it to be. So 859 01:20:15,439 --> 01:20:20,760 like someone might love you a lot as a friend, but you wanted something 860 01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:25,079 else, you know, that sort of thing, and sure, vice Flissa, 861 01:20:25,359 --> 01:20:29,600 Yeah, that's relatable, something everyone goes through at some point or another. 862 01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:36,079 Yeah, but like there's still love there right away, you know, 863 01:20:36,279 --> 01:20:41,479 and then there's like the unconditional love of like a mother and that sort of 864 01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:45,880 thing. Yeah, yeah, no, very cool. Now, are you 865 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:49,319 currently working on new music or I know this album hasn't been out for very 866 01:20:49,399 --> 01:20:53,880 long, so I don't know if you're still focused on this or you strike 867 01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:58,680 me as someone who's probably always working on something new, right, that's accurate? 868 01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:03,399 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just I just love playing with the 869 01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:12,560 sounds and music so much, so I don't really tend to stop right right, 870 01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:16,359 So are you are you working on another album or I mean, of 871 01:21:16,439 --> 01:21:19,039 course, we live in an era where you have so many different options in 872 01:21:19,159 --> 01:21:23,920 terms of how you release music, and a lot of artists now seem to 873 01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:28,359 do especially a lot of the guests I've had recently, they have this approach 874 01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:32,000 where they just release singles and then when they have enough singles, those singles 875 01:21:32,079 --> 01:21:35,600 become an album. But rather than releasing an album all at once, they 876 01:21:35,680 --> 01:21:41,399 release singles and then they become the album or what's kind of your trajectory in 877 01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:46,399 terms of future music? That approach is like how you're supposed to do it 878 01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:53,439 to please the algorithm. I think exactly feed the machine. I have not 879 01:21:53,840 --> 01:22:00,439 planned ahead. I'm just playing with sounds and making things. Yeah, and 880 01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:04,960 if I feel that they will fit together as a piece, then I probably 881 01:22:05,079 --> 01:22:11,000 would release them as a piece, as an album or an EP. Yeah, 882 01:22:12,279 --> 01:22:18,800 But I've at the moment the sort of completed things are stripped back versions 883 01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:25,479 of songs from Anomaly. I've done one of Story, which is going to 884 01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:31,520 be out on the seventeenth of August, putting that on streaming services. Yeah, 885 01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:35,520 and that's just piano and vocals. Oh, very cool, very cool. 886 01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:40,560 Yeah, I look forward to hearing that. Excellent. Oh and by 887 01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:42,840 the way, too, I notice looking at band camp, so this is 888 01:22:43,079 --> 01:22:47,319 Anomaly is also available on vinyl? Is that correct? Yeah? Yeah, 889 01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:54,359 it is. I've never had that before. But the label where a Foxman 890 01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:58,720 approached me and they they said they really wanted me to make an album for 891 01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:01,600 them, and they would put out vinyl and that's what they've done. And 892 01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:06,119 it's pretty cool. Yeah, that is that's awesome. Yeah, it's fascinating 893 01:23:06,239 --> 01:23:11,039 how. I don't know how it has gone there, but in the United 894 01:23:11,119 --> 01:23:15,840 States it's you know, vinyl never really went away here. You know, 895 01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:16,880 it was supposed to have gone away, of course, you know, back 896 01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:20,439 back in the day, CDs came out and that was supposed to kill vinyl, 897 01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:25,680 but vinyl never really went away. And I think I was reading in 898 01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:30,319 twenty twenty two, I believe was the first year that vinyl at least I 899 01:23:30,359 --> 01:23:32,159 don't know if this is global or if it's just in the United States, 900 01:23:32,239 --> 01:23:40,239 but vinyl actually outsold CDs for the first time since CDs were first introduced because 901 01:23:40,279 --> 01:23:43,760 people really love you know, a lot of people buy vinyl and they never 902 01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,239 even open it. You know, if they really love an artist, they 903 01:23:45,359 --> 01:23:48,960 just want it to have it because they love that artist, and they want 904 01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:53,159 to collect it and support the artists, and they'll also buy a CD or 905 01:23:53,239 --> 01:23:58,479 just download this music stream wise. But but it's really cool and that the 906 01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,199 label approach to you and wanted to do that. That's remarkable. And how 907 01:24:01,239 --> 01:24:03,840 did you how did you come to work with that label. By the way, 908 01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:06,720 how did that come about, because that's great to have a label behind 909 01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:13,720 you. Well, they saw some of my improvised Twitch streams and then they 910 01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:17,039 reached out to me after that because I was doing a lot of them in 911 01:24:17,239 --> 01:24:24,720 Lockdown, the COVID Lockdown, so obviously there weren't really any musical events going 912 01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:28,640 on and stuff, so right, more people were online. Yeah, and 913 01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:31,800 they saw my streams and then they sent an email asking if i'd be up 914 01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:36,640 for a chat, And then sort of blew my mind a bit when they 915 01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:41,560 offered me that. I nearly said no because I didn't think I'd be able 916 01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:45,600 to finish an album really, And now I look back and I think that 917 01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:48,680 was a bit silly that I didn't think I could do that because I make 918 01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:56,680 music all the time, right right. Yeah. Yeah, And so Anomaly 919 01:24:56,720 --> 01:25:00,680 obviously that's your first release on the label. Yeah yeah, And are you 920 01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:05,039 gonna be uh? I assume that partnership continues, you'll be releasing more music 921 01:25:05,119 --> 01:25:10,600 with them. I don't know at the moment. I'm just seeing how it 922 01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:15,800 goes with this this first album first, but like, I'm happy to work 923 01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:21,039 with them in future, and and I'm playing at an event that they've put 924 01:25:21,119 --> 01:25:30,319 together in Derbyshire in March, which should be fun. Excellent, excellent. 925 01:25:32,079 --> 01:25:38,479 Do you play out much? Do you do a lot of? I don't 926 01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:44,079 do a huge amount. Part of that is just because I don't really go 927 01:25:44,239 --> 01:25:49,920 out looking for gigs as much as a musician should, right, But I 928 01:25:50,039 --> 01:25:55,239 am. I'm trying to work on that and actually going to try and get 929 01:25:55,680 --> 01:26:00,800 some more more gigs because I do actually enjoy it. Now. I used 930 01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:04,479 to be very anxious about it, but now I've sort of gotten a bit 931 01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:11,720 more confident. I feel like I'm ready to to do a lot more excellent 932 01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:15,960 excellent. Well, Charlie, before we wrap up, and we are going 933 01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:18,800 to play another track at the end of the segment, I've got idmy loaded 934 01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:23,199 up. We're gonna we're gonna play that in a moment. But please, 935 01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:27,479 for all of our listeners, let them know where's the best place to get 936 01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:30,600 your music. Anything you want them to know about social media and if you 937 01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:33,159 have a website you want them to know about so they can keep up on 938 01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:40,880 everything that you're doing. Yeah, so all of my music can be purchased 939 01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:46,239 at band camp, So that would be Choli dot bandcamp dot com. Most 940 01:26:46,319 --> 01:26:53,359 of my music is available on pretty much all streaming services. I've got so 941 01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:59,199 many music videos under the name Choli Music on YouTube as well. Okay, 942 01:27:00,359 --> 01:27:02,600 all of my social media handles are Cholley Music. So if you want to 943 01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:09,000 check out any of my streams, a stream to Twitch, which is twitch 944 01:27:09,079 --> 01:27:13,399 dot tv sash Cholley Music, you'd find me there. I put all of 945 01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:20,159 my highlights on TikTok and Instagram reels under the name Cholly Music again, so 946 01:27:20,239 --> 01:27:24,880 that's nice and easy. Yeah yeah. Yeah. And by the way, 947 01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:28,399 so if somebody goes if somebody goes on Twitch to see one of your live 948 01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:30,079 streams, so they might get to see you putting a song together live. 949 01:27:31,399 --> 01:27:33,960 Yeah, yeah, they might do. It depends how I feel on the 950 01:27:34,039 --> 01:27:39,880 day. Sure. Yeah, No, that's really cool. That's very cool. 951 01:27:41,359 --> 01:27:44,359 Yeah, it's interesting too, how how musicians have been able to really 952 01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:46,600 kind of harness Twitch to to do that kind of thing. Obviously, you 953 01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:50,119 know, Twitch started as a you know, a gaming platform, but but 954 01:27:50,199 --> 01:27:53,920 there are other uses for it, and people do all all kinds of stuff, 955 01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:56,560 and you know, there's political talk shows and all kinds of things that 956 01:27:56,600 --> 01:28:00,439 go on on Twitch now. But but that's that's really cool. Yeah, 957 01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:02,039 people should keep that in mind, you know, check out your Twitch stream 958 01:28:02,079 --> 01:28:04,239 and yeah, they might get to see you put a song together. So 959 01:28:04,399 --> 01:28:09,800 that's that's incredible. Charlie, thank you so much. We will have to 960 01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:12,680 do this again in the future because it sounds like you've got a lot more 961 01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,079 music coming in the future, so we will. We will definitely have you 962 01:28:15,199 --> 01:28:18,640 back, and UH really appreciate you joining us today. We're gonna let you 963 01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:21,920 go and then I'm gonna I'm gonna play this track. I dmy but you're 964 01:28:21,960 --> 01:28:27,079 getting a lot of love on our Facebook live chat and I really love what 965 01:28:27,159 --> 01:28:30,840 you're doing. And thank you so much for joining us today. Well, 966 01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:32,680 thank you so much for having me. All right, Charlie, you got 967 01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:36,399 it all right, take care you two, all right, bye bye bye, 968 01:28:38,239 --> 01:28:40,880 all right, wonderful. That was Charlie all the way from the UK. 969 01:28:41,279 --> 01:28:43,840 And what we'll do is we're gonna play this track. This is also 970 01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:48,279 from her recent album Anomaly, So give this a listen and then we will 971 01:28:48,319 --> 01:28:53,439 be back with the balance of our show. 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Today is Wednesday, August nine, two thy twenty three, 1002 01:35:48,479 --> 01:35:50,840 So nice to have you all with me. By the way, that track 1003 01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:56,880 I just played I dmy that was from Charlie, who was our musical guest 1004 01:35:57,119 --> 01:36:00,640 today, skyping in all the way from the UK. If you missed it, 1005 01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:02,239 of course it'll be up in just a little bit after the show. 1006 01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:05,319 We'll put the archive up and share it out on social media for you. 1007 01:36:05,479 --> 01:36:09,840 But really enjoyed speaking with her. I really like her music and her approach 1008 01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:13,960 to it is fascinating. But yeah, check her out online. And of 1009 01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:15,199 course, earlier in the show in the first hour, we had our friend 1010 01:36:15,399 --> 01:36:19,880 Eric Pilcher, my favorite conservative, joining us as he does on Wednesdays. 1011 01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:24,760 And speaking of that, By the way, Will because somebody texted me and 1012 01:36:24,840 --> 01:36:27,920 asked me what we were talking about the Stephen Crowder thing, I have something 1013 01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:30,800 from media that explains what just happened. Well, we'll touch on that briefly 1014 01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:33,920 and then we'll try to get at least one other thing in today on the 1015 01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:36,880 show. It's already so late, it goes by so quickly. But if 1016 01:36:36,920 --> 01:36:40,760 you would like to get in with a call, the studio line is open 1017 01:36:41,239 --> 01:36:45,479 six zero three two five zero six zero seven six zo three two five six 1018 01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:48,439 seven. You can also text me at six one seven nine one seven four 1019 01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:53,840 four seven six. I'm on social media at Matt Connerton. You can email 1020 01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:57,840 me Matt at Matt Connerton dot com, and of course you can interact end 1021 01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:00,319 O Pine in the Facebook live out. But the best thing to do so 1022 01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:03,960 that we can hear and enjoy your dulcet tones is to give us a call 1023 01:37:05,439 --> 01:37:11,319 at six zero three two five zero six zero seven six zo three two five 1024 01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:19,600 zero six zero seven. There's some uh yeah, we're not going to go 1025 01:37:19,680 --> 01:37:24,319 back to all that, but a lot of discussion on the Facebook live chat 1026 01:37:24,359 --> 01:37:29,880 about some other things. Our dell five says hashtag Charlie keep on rocking. 1027 01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:33,800 We say, yes, absolutely, just quickly. This is what we were 1028 01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:38,920 referring to my conversation with Eric Pilter about Stephen Crowder. Uh. This is 1029 01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:45,439 from Media eight for Stephen Crowder. Staffers exit the show after interrogations and insane 1030 01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:49,840 NDA NDA of course being a non disclosure agreement. Uh says here Stephen Crowder 1031 01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:57,399 sent draconian non disclosure agreements to his staff with a one hundred thousand dollars breach 1032 01:37:57,439 --> 01:38:02,239 of contract penalty. After media reported on allegations of workplace misconduct at the right 1033 01:38:02,279 --> 01:38:09,399 wing commentator's Rumbull show, five current and former staffers said last month, Media 1034 01:38:09,479 --> 01:38:15,199 I'd reported on allegations of bullying, inappropriate drug use, and lewed sexual workplace 1035 01:38:15,279 --> 01:38:20,039 misconduct at Louder with Crowder, the popular online show that recently joined Rumbull, 1036 01:38:20,199 --> 01:38:28,600 a YouTube alternative, and apparently his numbers are tanking. Two hours after, 1037 01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:32,720 Media I'd published a follow up report detailing and internal staff meeting at Louder with 1038 01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:39,800 Crowder held in response to the initial story in which CEO Gerald Morgan told staffers 1039 01:38:40,119 --> 01:38:45,640 they could no longer communicate with former employees. NDA's were sent out. Now 1040 01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:56,560 that's and that sounds like I know there are certain religious organizations where and this 1041 01:38:56,720 --> 01:38:59,720 is not not the norm, but there are certain you know, I've had 1042 01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:01,920 friend who are Jehovah's witnesses, for example, who have explained this to me, 1043 01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:06,319 or I know with scientologists who it's a big deal. Once you leave 1044 01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:15,560 that you are those who stay behind are no longer no longer allowed to communicate 1045 01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:18,479 with you or associate with you in any way. And it sounds like it's 1046 01:39:18,520 --> 01:39:23,199 a similar thing with Louder. With Crowder, people leave the show, people 1047 01:39:23,199 --> 01:39:25,880 who work on that show leave the show, and then the people who still 1048 01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:30,359 work there are not allowed to have any communication with the people who left. 1049 01:39:31,119 --> 01:39:34,760 That sounds I mean, is that even legal? I don't know. I 1050 01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:42,439 would question if that's even legal. If you work at a job and people 1051 01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:46,960 leave that company, and your boss at the company that you still work at 1052 01:39:47,039 --> 01:39:51,039 comes and tells you you can't have anything to do with those people who left. 1053 01:39:51,279 --> 01:39:55,920 You can't even speak to them, you can't associate with them socially. 1054 01:39:56,600 --> 01:39:59,479 Because that's apparently what's in these NDAs. It's not a matter of it's not 1055 01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:02,760 just, you know, don't don't talk about the business with them, don't 1056 01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:05,359 talk about what we're doing here, don't talk about what's going on at work 1057 01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:10,000 with the people who left. We'd rather you didn't do that. It's not 1058 01:40:10,119 --> 01:40:14,640 even that, it's you can't associate with them anymore. I mean, that's 1059 01:40:15,119 --> 01:40:18,560 that's nuts. I don't know if that's even legal for an employer. Because 1060 01:40:18,600 --> 01:40:23,880 here's the thing. You can drop a non disclosure agreement for your employees. 1061 01:40:23,960 --> 01:40:27,079 But that doesn't mean I mean, if there are terms in the non disclosure 1062 01:40:27,119 --> 01:40:30,680 agreement that aren't even legal, then that NDA is not going to hold up, 1063 01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:32,399 is it, or maybe it will. I don't know. I'm not 1064 01:40:32,479 --> 01:40:38,600 an attorney. I don't know anything about how this works. But I mean, 1065 01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:42,600 that seems crazy to me that you could even put that in an NDA. 1066 01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:49,800 Mariam Bannish says JW's dis fellow quote unquote and aren't even allowed to speak 1067 01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:55,239 the names of those who left or broke a rule. Yeah, it's very 1068 01:40:56,760 --> 01:41:00,640 very strict. Let's see. So it says here. The agreements, which 1069 01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:08,760 were reviewed by Mediaite, were emailed to current Louder with Crowder employees on July 1070 01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:14,520 twenty six and read in part and here's this is actual text from the NDA. 1071 01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:16,359 And by the ways, as we're going through this, just imagine you 1072 01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:23,560 work at a place and you get something like this from your employer. Just 1073 01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:28,840 try to put yourself in the place of these people who work for this show 1074 01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:33,079 Louder with Crowder and they get this in their email. Imagine if your company 1075 01:41:33,159 --> 01:41:38,119 that you work for sent you something like this. And by the way, 1076 01:41:38,239 --> 01:41:42,680 I haven't pre read this so I don't even know what's in this. Here's 1077 01:41:42,760 --> 01:41:48,960 here's this is from the email. Employee maintains its promises and covenants not to 1078 01:41:49,079 --> 01:41:56,000 disclose confidential information as defined in the amendment. Company will provide employee with confidential 1079 01:41:56,039 --> 01:42:00,359 information during the period in which employee is employed by the company. Okay, 1080 01:42:00,359 --> 01:42:02,439 well, that part's completely reasonable. That sounds like a standard NDA to me 1081 01:42:04,039 --> 01:42:10,640 so far. The agreement added that if a breach of contract should ever occur, 1082 01:42:11,039 --> 01:42:15,439 the employee would be quote liable to the company for liquidated damages in the 1083 01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:25,880 amount of one hundred thousand dollars. Is that legal? I mean, obviously 1084 01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:30,359 it happens all the time. People violate a non disclosure agreement and they get 1085 01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:34,840 sued there's some sort of penalty. But again, maybe this is maybe this 1086 01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:40,039 part might be completely standard. By the way, again, I come at 1087 01:42:40,079 --> 01:42:44,319 this from a place of ignorance. I don't know how this works. But 1088 01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:47,399 so maybe that part's completely standard, that there's a financial penalty, but it 1089 01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:51,000 just seems weird to me. I mean, I would be nervous about signing 1090 01:42:51,079 --> 01:42:58,760 something like that because how strict is that? What if you know, what 1091 01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:01,199 if violating the end? Yeah, so what if I leave that company, 1092 01:43:02,359 --> 01:43:11,479 and I tell somebody that, yeah, the refrigerator that was in the office 1093 01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:17,479 at that place of work it one day it broke down and all the employees 1094 01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:23,119 their food spoiled that they had left in that refrigerator because the refrigerator stopped working 1095 01:43:23,960 --> 01:43:28,279 in the office. And then my former employer finds out that I told somebody 1096 01:43:28,319 --> 01:43:30,239 about the broken refrigerator. Are they going to be able to then come at 1097 01:43:30,279 --> 01:43:35,079 me for one hundred thousand dollars? I don't know, I'd be I'd been 1098 01:43:35,159 --> 01:43:40,960 nervous about signing something like that. So the agreement also said, quote, 1099 01:43:41,520 --> 01:43:46,039 I hereby acknowledge that said damages are reasonable, do not constitute a penalty. 1100 01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:53,039 And I further agree that I will not contest the reasonableness of said liquidated damages 1101 01:43:53,399 --> 01:43:57,920 in any such action commenced by either party with respect of this amendment. Okay, 1102 01:43:57,960 --> 01:44:01,520 Now, again, I'm not a lawyer, but that seems to me. 1103 01:44:01,840 --> 01:44:09,880 Sounds to me like I will not contest the reasonableness. Well, if 1104 01:44:10,279 --> 01:44:15,399 if you're pledging to not contest the reasonableness, aren't you then signing off on 1105 01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:18,600 something that basically says so if at any point your employer comes to you and 1106 01:44:18,680 --> 01:44:24,119 says, hey, we think you violated this. You can't you can't contest 1107 01:44:24,239 --> 01:44:30,199 that and say no, I disagree. I think you're overreacting. I think 1108 01:44:30,279 --> 01:44:33,760 that what you're telling me is unenforceable, beyond the scope of the agreement, 1109 01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:39,000 beyond the spirit of the agreement, etc. You have no right to do 1110 01:44:39,159 --> 01:44:41,560 that. You just have to say, oh, well, okay, if 1111 01:44:41,600 --> 01:44:44,640 that's how you feel about it, I guess I owe you one hundred grand 1112 01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:49,199 Is that what that means? I mean that is nuts. Who would sign 1113 01:44:49,279 --> 01:44:51,479 that? I mean, obviously some people did. They want to keep their 1114 01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:57,880 jobs there. But my god, Melanie in the chat room says, I 1115 01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:08,119 tell all my coworkers that they will be dead to me if they leave it. 1116 01:45:08,199 --> 01:45:12,439 Says here, the staffers were told they had to sign the NDA by 1117 01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:15,800 that Friday on July twenty seven. Wait a minute, when were they given 1118 01:45:15,880 --> 01:45:21,880 this? July twenty sixth right, So they were given a day to decide 1119 01:45:23,359 --> 01:45:27,760 whether they had to sign this. On July twenty seven, Crowder held a 1120 01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:33,039 meeting in which he warned staff against speaking out. Stephen was livid. A 1121 01:45:33,159 --> 01:45:40,239 source close to the Rumble host told media I quote he and Gerald Gerald, 1122 01:45:40,279 --> 01:45:43,119 who runs a company and he's also a co host on the show. If 1123 01:45:43,119 --> 01:45:48,960 you've ever seen Louder with Crowder, I've subjected myself to it briefly in moments 1124 01:45:49,119 --> 01:45:58,520 where I just felt like I wanted to torture myself. I guess maybe I'm 1125 01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:01,920 a masochist. He and Gerald said they knew someone was talking to you, 1126 01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:09,840 the author of this piece, based on the article you wrote. They said, 1127 01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:13,960 whoever text messaged former employees about us not being able to hang out with 1128 01:46:14,039 --> 01:46:17,560 them would be given amnesty if we confessed by two pm. If no one 1129 01:46:17,680 --> 01:46:23,199 confessed, then they would see it as malice. No one confessed, so 1130 01:46:23,359 --> 01:46:29,920 they started interrogating a few people. Unquote, by the way, here's an 1131 01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:36,520 idea. If you say you run a program like this like Stephen Crowder does 1132 01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:41,840 Ladder with Crowder, or literally anything else, anything else, any kind of 1133 01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:46,199 business, any sort of enterprise that involves other human beings, here's an idea. 1134 01:46:46,279 --> 01:46:51,560 I have a suggestion. If you're so worried about people, I mean 1135 01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:58,439 usually with NDA's, you're worried about people stealing your intellectual property. That's a 1136 01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:01,439 big thing in tech, right. You know, somebody works for a tech 1137 01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:05,159 company and they're going to leave that company and go work for another tech company 1138 01:47:05,199 --> 01:47:09,880 and take all the you know, take stuff with them, even if it's 1139 01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:13,439 just stuff in their minds there that you know, the company that they work 1140 01:47:13,479 --> 01:47:17,279 for currently feels as their intellectual property. That's a very big thing with NDAs 1141 01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:23,600 it's usually it usually has to do with intellectual property, intellectual property, proprietary 1142 01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:29,239 information involving the business, etc. But if what you're worried about in this 1143 01:47:29,399 --> 01:47:36,279 case is you don't want people going and talking to the media, either publicly 1144 01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:43,119 or on background anonymously, be an anonymous source. You don't want people talking 1145 01:47:43,159 --> 01:47:45,680 to the media about what goes on in that business. Here's a thought. 1146 01:47:47,960 --> 01:47:50,840 Don't run your business in a way that would make people want to run to 1147 01:47:50,880 --> 01:48:00,359 the media and complain about you. Treat people correctly so they don't have anything 1148 01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:04,000 to talk about. I mean, it is that simple, is it. 1149 01:48:04,199 --> 01:48:12,920 Not treat people well and then they have nothing bad to say about you, 1150 01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:15,239 you know, unless they want to make something up. But that's on them. 1151 01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:18,880 But here's the thing. If you treat people well, by the way, 1152 01:48:19,039 --> 01:48:21,880 this could be a life lesson. Doesn't even have to just be about 1153 01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:26,199 business. It could be about anything. It could be about how you conduct 1154 01:48:26,239 --> 01:48:30,640 yourself in life, how you interact with other human beings. Treat people well, 1155 01:48:30,079 --> 01:48:34,520 be nice to people, be respectful to people, and they won't have 1156 01:48:34,520 --> 01:48:36,920 anything bad to say about you. And if they do have something bad to 1157 01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:41,640 say about you, that isn't true. If you have a good reputation because 1158 01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:45,039 you treat people well, no one will believe them when they talk their their 1159 01:48:45,079 --> 01:48:47,199 nonsense about you, So you don't have anything to worry about. It's that 1160 01:48:47,399 --> 01:48:56,439 simple. But when you haul people in and tell them you have to sign 1161 01:48:56,520 --> 01:49:00,600 a non disclosure agreement, because well, I mean, what kind of messaging 1162 01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:03,640 does that send to his employees? So I want you to sign this non 1163 01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:09,079 disclosure agreement saying that pledging that you will owe me a hundred thousand dollars if 1164 01:49:09,079 --> 01:49:13,119 you ever dare say anything bad about me, because I want to be able 1165 01:49:13,159 --> 01:49:19,439 to continue to be awful to everyone here, and then you can't say anything 1166 01:49:19,479 --> 01:49:26,239 about it. No, just don't do that. What Stephen Crowder should have 1167 01:49:26,279 --> 01:49:28,920 done. Has had a meeting and said, hey, let's come to my 1168 01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:34,000 attention. People are leaking things to the media that are unpleasant. You know, 1169 01:49:34,119 --> 01:49:36,920 on top of all the things that have already been leaked to the media 1170 01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:41,439 about this guy that are unpleasant. It's coming to my attention that this is 1171 01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:45,760 going on. This is an ongoing thing. So you know what, since 1172 01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:47,319 we're having this meeting, I'd like to hear from all of you are what 1173 01:49:47,399 --> 01:49:50,119 are some of the things that bother you? Or here's what I would do. 1174 01:49:50,239 --> 01:49:53,119 I would say. I would say to my staff and listen, I 1175 01:49:53,279 --> 01:49:56,119 used to be you know, thank god, I'm not in charge of anybody 1176 01:49:56,159 --> 01:50:00,720 anymore. You know, my businesses are sole proprietorships. But you know, 1177 01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:02,479 I used to be a manager. I used to have to be in charge 1178 01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:08,600 of other human beings at work. I don't wish to do that again, 1179 01:50:11,159 --> 01:50:15,359 but I don't like being in charge of other people. Frankly. I mean, 1180 01:50:15,399 --> 01:50:19,319 I can do it, but I don't like it. But you know, 1181 01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:23,600 I would say if I were in that position, I would probably say, 1182 01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:26,960 here, we're having this meeting so that you can all tell me. 1183 01:50:27,279 --> 01:50:30,640 Give me examples. Team, what are some of the things if you were 1184 01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:32,880 to go and talk to the media about me, what are some of the 1185 01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:35,439 things you would say? What are some of the complaints you would have? 1186 01:50:35,640 --> 01:50:40,720 Tell me? Just tell me right now, open forum. You know, 1187 01:50:41,159 --> 01:50:45,159 everybody gets to speak their mind. Tell me what you would say so that 1188 01:50:45,279 --> 01:50:46,760 I know what you're upset about, I know what bothers you, and we 1189 01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:49,720 can work as a team on changing it, because I want everybody to be 1190 01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:56,880 happy here. Something that has always baffled me about corporate life someone and I'm 1191 01:50:56,920 --> 01:51:00,880 someone who again you know, I'm self employed, I'm a sole proprietor and 1192 01:51:01,119 --> 01:51:03,960 all of it. But I used to work for you know, I was 1193 01:51:04,239 --> 01:51:08,640 for many years. I was actually Peter White and I Peter White of the 1194 01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:11,920 Morning Show. We worked for the same company, just at different times. 1195 01:51:12,439 --> 01:51:16,399 But trans World Entertainment they used to own FYE. They sold it off. 1196 01:51:16,439 --> 01:51:20,119 F YE has come back, but now it's a different company. But something 1197 01:51:20,239 --> 01:51:29,560 that in my experience in working for big corporations is that it's always amazed me 1198 01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:36,800 how many managers don't understand that if you treat people well, you'll get better 1199 01:51:36,880 --> 01:51:41,119 work out of them. They'll be more you'll get more productivity, you'll have 1200 01:51:41,279 --> 01:51:45,399 less turnover. And it's not that hard. Doesn't mean you have to be 1201 01:51:45,479 --> 01:51:48,239 a pushover. It doesn't mean you have to let your employees walk all over 1202 01:51:48,359 --> 01:51:55,079 you or anything like that. But treat people with respect and you'll get better 1203 01:51:55,159 --> 01:51:59,520 work out of them, aside from it being the correct and moral and ethical 1204 01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:01,199 thing to do in terms of how you treat people. But that's just again 1205 01:52:01,319 --> 01:52:06,840 in life. Just be a good person, you know, be a nice 1206 01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:11,720 person. I'm a nice person, and because I'm a nice person, people 1207 01:52:11,720 --> 01:52:16,840 are generally nice to me. You know. It's it's kind of nice. 1208 01:52:18,119 --> 01:52:21,199 There's a lot to be gained from that. But that's what Crowder should have 1209 01:52:21,239 --> 01:52:25,800 done if he was going to have this meeting. But instead, this guy 1210 01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:30,319 the only way he knows how to operate is to is to be threatening and 1211 01:52:30,520 --> 01:52:34,119 say you have to sign this non disclosure agreement because one of you has been 1212 01:52:34,199 --> 01:52:46,560 leaking information of the media about me. So so during the meeting, Crowder 1213 01:52:46,680 --> 01:52:54,640 downplayed his sexual misconduct allegations. Set Another source close to the soon soon to 1214 01:52:54,720 --> 01:53:00,920 be divorced father of two quote, if you're not okay with guys playing sack 1215 01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:05,199 tap, then this isn't the place for you. Unquote, the source said, 1216 01:53:05,239 --> 01:53:09,439 Crowder told staff, referring to the act of actually, I'm not going 1217 01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:14,560 to finish that sentence. That's afternoon drive. You can look up what that 1218 01:53:14,640 --> 01:53:20,079 phrase means. After the interrogation of current staffers for employees departed the company. 1219 01:53:21,760 --> 01:53:26,960 The source close to Crowder said, quote, the NDA was insane. Most 1220 01:53:27,079 --> 01:53:30,119 employees were scared because of it. Some talk to lawyers about it because they 1221 01:53:30,159 --> 01:53:33,600 were afraid, but thought that if they didn't sign it, it would incriminate 1222 01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:40,920 themselves. That would incriminate themselves. He was intimidating. Steven's increasing justification of 1223 01:53:40,960 --> 01:53:45,720 his workplace sexual behavior between men makes a lot of male employees uncomfortable. He's 1224 01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:49,399 always he always says it's joking, but it doesn't seem like a joke to 1225 01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:54,520 anyone anymore. Unquote. A former Ladder with Crowder employee said the NDA and 1226 01:53:54,640 --> 01:53:59,279 bullying tactics are a clear sign that the toxic workplace culture will not be cleaned 1227 01:53:59,359 --> 01:54:02,840 up anytime soon. They said, quote the real problems never get fixed because 1228 01:54:02,840 --> 01:54:09,960 the real studio problems revolve around Crowder's refusal to take responsibility. He is never 1229 01:54:10,039 --> 01:54:13,800 ever to blame. Gerald and Stephen intimidate and bully the staff. They try 1230 01:54:13,840 --> 01:54:16,920 to divide and conquer. They treat former employees like people who've left their cult 1231 01:54:17,119 --> 01:54:20,760 and can no longer be trusted, and current employees are commanded not to associate 1232 01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:27,399 with those former employees. Unquote. They compared Louder with Crowder two quote, 1233 01:54:27,520 --> 01:54:31,199 how scientologists aren't allowed to associate with people who've left the church? How corrupt 1234 01:54:31,239 --> 01:54:35,199 or clueless do you have to be to respond to reports of employee abuse by 1235 01:54:35,319 --> 01:54:43,359 turning around and threatening employees with a one hundred thousand dollars fine unquote. The 1236 01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:47,920 NBA kerfuffle has caused further turmoil among Crowder's staff, and a new hiring announcement 1237 01:54:48,439 --> 01:54:54,880 the same week added more fuel on the internal issues. Michael Spadone, a 1238 01:54:55,000 --> 01:55:00,439 former field director at Project Veritas who was accused of kissing and grow up in 1239 01:55:00,479 --> 01:55:05,399 a former colleague in a sense settled lawsuit has been brought on the Louder with 1240 01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:11,199 Crowder team. Sources close to Crowder saw it as a questionable hiring decision due 1241 01:55:11,239 --> 01:55:16,640 to the recent claims against Spadone. Well, it just gets better and better, 1242 01:55:16,760 --> 01:55:23,760 huh, an ex staffer lamented quote. The whole situation is obviously extremely 1243 01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:28,039 concerning for the women who work in the studio. Stephen's sexual habits and behavior 1244 01:55:28,079 --> 01:55:32,079 at work are troublesome enough, but to find out a man alleged of sexual 1245 01:55:32,119 --> 01:55:38,079 assault has been hired by Stephen the same week You've handed out a fresh nda 1246 01:55:38,279 --> 01:55:44,199 with a one hundred thousand dollars penalty would leave anyone scared unquote. Crowder did 1247 01:55:44,279 --> 01:55:49,319 not respond to request for comment. Wow, Yes, the Stephen Crowder. 1248 01:55:50,479 --> 01:55:54,039 He truly is the gift that keeps on giving. And isn't he? I 1249 01:55:54,159 --> 01:56:00,399 just what a guy, all right? I had hoped to get at least 1250 01:56:00,399 --> 01:56:01,640 one or two other things. But we are out of time. Stephen Crowder, 1251 01:56:01,720 --> 01:56:08,560 he takes up a lot of time. What a fascinating man who I 1252 01:56:08,680 --> 01:56:11,600 believe lies about his age. We need to spread that rumor not that he 1253 01:56:11,680 --> 01:56:14,560 cares. Stephen Crowder has got you know, he's got millions of millions of 1254 01:56:14,640 --> 01:56:18,199 dollars. What does he care? What I say? I'm sure, I'm 1255 01:56:18,239 --> 01:56:24,520 quite sure he doesn't know I exist. Someday he'll know. Now I'm kidding, 1256 01:56:24,920 --> 01:56:28,199 He'll never know exist. It doesn't matter. It's not important. What 1257 01:56:28,399 --> 01:56:34,000 matters is I'm a good person and he's not. But he does have millions 1258 01:56:34,039 --> 01:56:45,079 and millions of dollars, and I don't m M doesn't seem fair anyway. 1259 01:56:47,199 --> 01:56:49,520 Life isn't fair. All right, We gotta go. We are out of 1260 01:56:49,600 --> 01:56:53,560 time, my friends, Thank you all so much for joining us today. 1261 01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:57,520 Thank you to our great musical guest, Charlie really enjoyed that, and of 1262 01:56:57,600 --> 01:57:00,439 course our friend Eric Pilcher who joined us in the first hour. Oh, 1263 01:57:00,520 --> 01:57:03,359 Mike from Queen City Cabinetry is in the Facebook live chat. Queen City Cabinetry 1264 01:57:03,399 --> 01:57:08,079 one of our great sponsors here at w m H ninety five point three FM. 1265 01:57:08,119 --> 01:57:10,560 And of course I get to hang out with Mike Friday nights on Retro 1266 01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:14,199 Spectrum Radio with Paul c oh and I did see pauli Ce in the chat 1267 01:57:14,279 --> 01:57:16,439 room earlier as well. Hello, but Mike said, great music today, 1268 01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:18,880 Matt. Have a great night everyone. Yes, thank you you too, 1269 01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:21,319 Mike, have a great night, and you all have a great night. 1270 01:57:21,359 --> 01:57:24,640 If you missed any part of today's show it we'll be up in just a 1271 01:57:24,720 --> 01:57:30,359 little bit at WMNH radio dot org and as well as my website Matt Connerton 1272 01:57:30,399 --> 01:57:32,439 dot com. And we're gonna leave you with We won't get to play the 1273 01:57:32,479 --> 01:57:36,920 whole thing, but a little more of Charlie. This is called Swindon Bathtub. 1274 01:57:38,479 --> 01:57:43,000 Another great track from Charlie to close out today is Matt Connerton Unleashed. 1275 01:57:43,199 --> 01:58:31,159 I'll talk to y'all a little bit later. 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