1 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,039 Good afternoon everyone. Here we go. It's that time again, Matt Connerton 2 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:54,000 Unleashed and we are live from the studios of w m n H ninety five 3 00:00:54,079 --> 00:00:57,600 point three FM and Glorious Downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, and it is a 4 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,840 glorious day outside. Also on Comcast ninety seven if you're in Manchester, and 5 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,879 hello to all of our online listeners across the nation and around the globe. 6 00:01:03,959 --> 00:01:07,000 You can go to my website Matt Connerton dot com for all of your live 7 00:01:07,079 --> 00:01:11,760 streaming options, social media links, contact info, show archives, etc. 8 00:01:11,239 --> 00:01:17,239 Et cetera. Today is Tuesday, May nine, two thousand twenty three, 9 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:23,680 so welcome everybody. By the way, if you missed yesterday's show, I 10 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,439 suggest you go back and check it out. Jenny was here and in the 11 00:01:26,439 --> 00:01:30,439 second hour where we were joined by a guest, Conrad war from the band 12 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:36,400 Be's Deluxe, and I just wanted to say and how much I enjoyed that. 13 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,680 Not only it turns out I knew it would be an interesting conversation. 14 00:01:40,239 --> 00:01:44,599 Not only is Conrad a very talented musician and the band is great, but 15 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,400 he also has a background in the music industry. He worked at Rykodisc for 16 00:01:48,439 --> 00:01:53,200 example, and had a lot of insight into the into the music industry. 17 00:01:53,239 --> 00:01:57,599 So it's just a fascinating discussion. So I wanted to publicly thank him again 18 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,040 for joining Jenny and I yesterday and if you missed it, you should check 19 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,640 it out. So there you go. I wanted to mention that. But 20 00:02:05,359 --> 00:02:08,599 yes we have we have a penelope of things to discuss, including some news 21 00:02:08,599 --> 00:02:15,199 that was breaking just as I was about to leave the house to come to 22 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:19,199 come to the station. But six zo three two five six seven is a 23 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,879 studio line six ZO three two five six seven. You also text me at 24 00:02:22,879 --> 00:02:25,560 six one seven nine one seven four four seven six. I'm on social media 25 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:30,120 at Matt Connerton. You can email me Matt at Matt Connerton dot com, 26 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,680 and of course you can interact endo Pine in the Facebook live chat. But 27 00:02:34,719 --> 00:02:37,960 the best thing to do so that we can here and enjoy your dulcet tones 28 00:02:38,199 --> 00:02:42,360 is give us a call at six O three two five zero six zoo seven 29 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,479 six zo three two five o six seven. We'll go ahead and say hello 30 00:02:46,599 --> 00:02:50,120 everybody in the Facebook live chat, and then we're gonna dive right into some 31 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,039 stuff. Let's see who we have and here today so far, Crystal, 32 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,719 our friend from the great state of Illinois, joins us, Hello, Crystal. 33 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:00,319 Jay Fat is in the chat room, of course, in the great 34 00:03:00,319 --> 00:03:02,680 state of Vermont, says good afternoon everyone. Jenny is in there and says 35 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:08,719 shalom peeps. Ronda from California says hello from Southern CALLI s CALLI South, 36 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:14,319 Kelly easyg. Eric Gagnan joins us in the chairman says Happy Taco Tuesday. 37 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,560 Yes, Happy Taco Tuesday to you. Melanie Liberty, also from the Great 38 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,680 state of Vermont, joins us in the chat Hello. Jay Fed says, 39 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,039 I'm about half done with my review of Training Day, Matt. It's a 40 00:03:25,039 --> 00:03:30,280 really good review so far. I may say, I think I know which 41 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:32,800 review you will pick, Yes, if you missed yesterday's show, so of 42 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:38,639 course this coming Friday for our weekly film review, our classic film review from 43 00:03:38,639 --> 00:03:43,560 our friend Eric Pilcher. For this Friday's review, he has chosen Training Day, 44 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:49,960 but Jay Fed is interested in submitting his own version of the review for 45 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:53,039 Training Day. And maybe we'll see and who knows, maybe we'll have a 46 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,560 third version maybe, and maybe we'll have an AI version of the show and 47 00:03:55,599 --> 00:04:00,000 we can pick which one we like best. That would be interesting. Actually, 48 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,639 we could have a contest. Ronda says, Oh, tacos sound good 49 00:04:03,719 --> 00:04:09,560 tacos tonight for dinner. Chris Rose from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts joints the Hello 50 00:04:09,639 --> 00:04:13,919 Chris. Jenny shared in the chat room a link to the Facebook page for 51 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,639 Bees Deluxe. As I mentioned yesterday, we had Conrad from the band Bees 52 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,120 Deluxe in studio with us, and Ronda says, yeah, that was a 53 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:24,959 great show yesterday. Thank you, thank you. Yeah. DJ Steve who 54 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:28,800 is of course part of the WMNH family. He is a frequent contributor on 55 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,360 the Morning Show with Peter White weekdays from seven to night AM, with a 56 00:04:32,399 --> 00:04:35,120 replay from two to four pm right before this show, and of course he 57 00:04:35,199 --> 00:04:42,160 joins US Friday nights for Retro Spectrum Radio with Paul ec I'm one of Paul's 58 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,399 co hosts on that show, along with DJ Steve and Mike from Queen City 59 00:04:45,439 --> 00:04:49,879 Cabinetry. But by the way, Condolence says, I don't know if I'm 60 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:54,759 not sure I mentioned it yesterday, but condolences to Mike from Queen City cab 61 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,759 Industry. I know he just he just lost his dad over the weekend and 62 00:04:58,399 --> 00:05:00,480 he was he had posted about it on social media. So very sorry about 63 00:05:00,519 --> 00:05:03,959 that, my friend. But uh, but we do look forward to seeing 64 00:05:03,959 --> 00:05:08,319 you when you when you return to our Retrospectrum Radio. I hope, I 65 00:05:08,319 --> 00:05:11,319 hope you're doing okay. I'm very lucky, and I don't you know, 66 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,920 I don't take it for granted. I'd knock on wood every day. I 67 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,680 still have both my parents, So very very glad about that. But um, 68 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,079 but uh, yeah, so I was. I was very sad to 69 00:05:20,079 --> 00:05:24,519 see that news, Mike. But um, anyway, but uh, the 70 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:30,000 point was DJ Steve he messaged me yesterday after the show and was commenting how 71 00:05:30,079 --> 00:05:34,000 much he really enjoyed the discussion with Conrad War and UH wanted to um, 72 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,720 did I say War the first time? Or did I say I keep wanting 73 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:43,040 to say where but it's actually pronounced war. Um. Conrad War from the 74 00:05:43,079 --> 00:05:46,839 band Bees Deluxe, and DJ Steve was commenting how much he really enjoyed the 75 00:05:46,879 --> 00:05:50,040 discussion and how he would have enjoyed meeting him. So there you go. 76 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:54,360 So yeah, yesterday's show, it was a good show. If I do 77 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,560 say so myself, or if we do say so ourselves, or if you 78 00:05:57,639 --> 00:06:00,199 say so, if you say so, then it must be true. So 79 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,519 I appreciate, I appreciate the positive feedback. UH, let me give the 80 00:06:02,519 --> 00:06:05,680 studio line one more time and then we're gonna get into the big breaking news 81 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:11,199 in the last hour six three two five six seven six three two five six 82 00:06:11,639 --> 00:06:14,839 seven. Um, if you don't know what just happened, and you know, 83 00:06:14,879 --> 00:06:17,480 we have other stuff too that I had planned to get to, but 84 00:06:18,079 --> 00:06:24,439 UM, we'll do this first because it is breaking news, although we might 85 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:29,399 have breaking news later before the show's even over. On that debt limit meeting, 86 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,800 the debt limit deadline looms. Uh, it looms large. Uh the 87 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:41,519 beginning of June and uh uh Biden and McCarthy are meeting today. UM, 88 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,439 I have a Unfortunately, I'm not optimistic. I think it's going to be 89 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,920 a short meeting and uh I think uh, I think we see the invocation 90 00:06:48,959 --> 00:06:53,199 of the fourteenth Amendment coming our way soon, to be honest with you, 91 00:06:53,199 --> 00:06:55,800 but we'll get into that later. We'll save that for later. UM. 92 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,680 I also do want to on a lighter note, I do want to take 93 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:04,079 some time today to uh make fun of Russia. They had their, uh 94 00:07:04,199 --> 00:07:09,879 their May Day parade, and apparently it was a pretty pretty sad uh in 95 00:07:09,959 --> 00:07:14,120 contrast with previous May Day parades. So I would like to mock and make 96 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,800 fun of the Russians for that that has become one of life's great joys ever 97 00:07:17,879 --> 00:07:24,680 since Putin decided to invade Ukraine. Is uh mocking the failures of Vladimir Putin? 98 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,879 I take I take pleasure in that. Um. Remember that day that 99 00:07:30,959 --> 00:07:32,920 news broke that he had fallen, you know, because there's all these rumors 100 00:07:32,959 --> 00:07:35,360 about his health, there was the news that he had fallen down some stairs 101 00:07:35,399 --> 00:07:38,879 and soiled himself. Oh what a great day that we had a lot of 102 00:07:38,879 --> 00:07:43,279 fun with that that day. Uh the uh, it is forever etched in 103 00:07:43,319 --> 00:07:46,720 my mind, is the day that Vladimir Putin pooped himself. But uh no, 104 00:07:46,839 --> 00:07:49,480 but there is something more more pressing that Well, we'll get to in 105 00:07:49,519 --> 00:07:55,800 a moment. Um. John Hopwood joins us in. The chairman says our 106 00:07:55,839 --> 00:08:01,800 man sized cats who danced with adult women necessarily say tatanic. Uh. That 107 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,439 is I have to be honest with you, John, That is not something 108 00:08:05,959 --> 00:08:09,519 I myself have ever considered. I've never given any thought to that question. 109 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:15,319 But uh, but probably I'm most likely I would say so, yes, 110 00:08:15,439 --> 00:08:20,399 I mean it seems like as I envisioned that, as I conjure that image 111 00:08:20,399 --> 00:08:26,120 in my mind, I would say, the man sized cat in the particular 112 00:08:26,639 --> 00:08:31,399 mental image that I've created for myself in my own brain. Uh, that 113 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,080 is definitely a satanic cat. Yes, I would say so. I would 114 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,679 absolutely say so. So that's that's my opinion. That's just my opinion. 115 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:43,600 I'm I'm just one person. So, uh, if you missed it, 116 00:08:45,879 --> 00:08:48,279 and you probably didn't, but if you missed it. So, there has 117 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:56,759 been a verdict in the UH civil lawsuit against Donald Trump Egan Carol suing for 118 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:01,440 battery and for defamation m and he has been found liabel for that. And 119 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:07,679 by the way, we need to um, just established two because I've heard 120 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,480 people over the course of this and we haven't really talked about the trial on 121 00:09:09,519 --> 00:09:13,960 the show up to now, but we'll go ahead and dive into it a 122 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:18,600 little bit. Um. I've heard some people get this wrong when they discuss 123 00:09:18,639 --> 00:09:20,679 this, they refer to you know, you know, leading up to today, 124 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:24,000 I've heard people speculate will he be found guilty or not guilty? There's 125 00:09:24,039 --> 00:09:26,720 no guilty or not guilty in this case. It's a civil trial, not 126 00:09:26,799 --> 00:09:33,240 a criminal one. Criminally, he could not be tried for this, uh 127 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:41,080 anyway, because because of the um statute of limitations. But there is a 128 00:09:41,279 --> 00:09:45,799 law and and and actually for for a very long time, he couldn't have 129 00:09:45,799 --> 00:09:48,360 been tried uh for this civilly either I or I shouldn't say tried. But 130 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:54,000 he couldn't have had a lawsuit brought against him civilly either because um, again, 131 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:58,399 because of the statute of limitations. But there is a law I think 132 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,600 it's called, is that the Adult ser Vivs Act something in the state of 133 00:10:01,639 --> 00:10:07,159 New York, a law that does allow people who have been sexually assaulted, 134 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:09,200 uh, you know, years and years in this case, you know, 135 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:18,440 decades ago, to still bring a civil suit against against those whom they would 136 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,879 accuse. Um. So she was able to do this. So the jury 137 00:10:20,919 --> 00:10:26,159 did find in her favor. Doesn't mean that doesn't mean she'll ever see the 138 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:31,120 money. You know. We live in a culture, of course, and 139 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,720 well I should probably say we live in a world more broadly, because I'm 140 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,720 sure this is true everywhere. I don't think this is something uniquely American. 141 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:45,559 We live in a world where the wealthy and powerful are more often than not 142 00:10:46,399 --> 00:10:52,639 protected and insulated from being held accountable for things. And there are many reasons 143 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:58,039 for that, and there are many mechanisms that allow the wealthy and powerful to 144 00:10:58,159 --> 00:11:01,919 escape accountability, and one of them is if you have money. If you 145 00:11:01,960 --> 00:11:07,840 are wealthy, you have the money to evade accountability even when it seems that 146 00:11:07,879 --> 00:11:13,440 accountability has landed on your doorstep. So, for example, if you are 147 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,279 sued for something and you are found liabel, you know you you have the 148 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:24,799 money you can afford to have your attorneys appeal it, and eventually you'll exhaust 149 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,480 the appeals. But I assume you can only appeal something so many times. 150 00:11:28,519 --> 00:11:33,720 I'm no expert in this, but uh so, you know, will she 151 00:11:33,759 --> 00:11:37,799 ever see the money? I assume that Trump will appeal the judgment. It's 152 00:11:37,159 --> 00:11:46,159 upwards of five million dollars in total, I believe. So, although actually 153 00:11:50,519 --> 00:11:54,200 that happens sometimes, even it doesn't necessarily only happen with the wealthy and powerful, 154 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:58,840 come to think of it, because I've I've known people who've sued successfully 155 00:12:00,039 --> 00:12:03,279 in small claims court and never seen the money because they'll win a judgment in 156 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,559 small claims scored for a couple hundred bucks against somebody, and then the person 157 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,000 who loses the judgment never actually pays it, and it's like, how do 158 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,559 you get them to pay it? See them again in small claims core it. 159 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,639 So it isn't only the wealthy and powerful to get away with it, 160 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:16,960 but to a large degree it is. We have a call. Hi, 161 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:24,480 Welcome to Matt Connerton. Unleash does this? It's John? Oh, you're 162 00:12:24,799 --> 00:12:30,120 calling from a number that I don't recognize. Have you eat that a kick 163 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:35,720 in the head? Huh? Have you been kidnapped? Unfortunately? No? 164 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:41,159 Oh okay, just making sure. Now wait a minute, are you only 165 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:46,120 saying no because you have to say no for your own safety? Blink twice 166 00:12:46,159 --> 00:12:50,399 if you're lying and you actually have been kidnapped, Okay, I already have 167 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,080 done though done it. I didn't hear you blink, So I'm going to 168 00:12:54,120 --> 00:13:01,639 assume you're fun. I have a nit stocking over my head that occludes my 169 00:13:01,759 --> 00:13:07,440 eyes. Well, I'll tell you what. That nit's stocking over your head 170 00:13:07,879 --> 00:13:13,279 actually makes your phone sound better than usual. Actually, I was participating in 171 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:22,240 a fat albert A voice cast reunion fans Bill Cosby. Of course, Well 172 00:13:22,279 --> 00:13:30,559 I would hope so, yes, since he was someone found guilty but subsequently 173 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:39,879 sprung on a similar piece in kind if not, but not the Greek. 174 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:46,320 Well, actually it was a much higher degree. But Matt I called to 175 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:52,440 tell you that, Yes, civil lawsuits adjudicated by Jerry our trials. Yes, 176 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:58,879 I know that. I'm sorry if I misspoke. I understand it's your 177 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:03,720 nature to nitpick, and that's fine. I accept that. Now Trump was 178 00:14:03,799 --> 00:14:11,879 found guilty of defamation. Yes, I was sued for defamation and libel for 179 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:24,000 a politician who we shall rename nameless. But my lawsuit was thrown out whatever. 180 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,600 Yes, oh, yes, I have a question though. Okay, 181 00:14:26,639 --> 00:14:31,879 so in terms of uh, the terms that we're using, So do you 182 00:14:31,879 --> 00:14:33,600 still say guilty or do you say libel? I thought if it was a 183 00:14:33,639 --> 00:14:37,279 civil case, you don't say guilty, you only say libel? Am I 184 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,720 wrong? You know much more about the law than I do, So I 185 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,000 defer to you. You would be guilty, you'd be found guilty. You 186 00:14:43,039 --> 00:14:48,799 do you do still use that term? Okay, but you'll wonder if that's 187 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:54,399 going to lead to a lawsuit of libel, flammed and defamation against you? 188 00:14:54,720 --> 00:15:01,279 Right? Yes, it does, say, have to be taken into consideration. 189 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:07,320 I wrote an article and I did not use the word convict because the 190 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:11,360 person I was writing about. I did not have access to the court records 191 00:15:11,679 --> 00:15:16,879 because I was given I went to the wrong court because a person thought the 192 00:15:16,919 --> 00:15:22,279 court was there and it wasn't. It was somewhere else. They you can 193 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:28,799 assume things, but once you know a conviction, I don't, I don't. 194 00:15:28,039 --> 00:15:33,679 It's not a conviction in civil court, right right? You know the 195 00:15:33,159 --> 00:15:37,519 language that you're using and being careful with, Yeah, you know you have 196 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:43,480 to be, particularly when we have big Brother breathing down our necks about anything 197 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,559 we might word we might put out there. Well, well, sure, 198 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:52,080 because I've heard I've heard people speak very loosely about this case, and I 199 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,759 think there are some people who, as as they've been observing this, only 200 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,360 sort of half paying attention. You know, they don't realize that it's it's 201 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:03,799 not a criminal trial. They assume it's a criminal he does have other criminal 202 00:16:03,159 --> 00:16:07,360 liabilities, But in this case, it's not a criminal suit. It's a 203 00:16:07,399 --> 00:16:14,840 civil suit. The actually is a in the state of New Hampshire, a 204 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:21,279 misdemeanor called criminal libel. But that dates back a long time ago to you 205 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,480 know, the old days where even if you told the truth about the king 206 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:30,600 or the king's ministers. You know, you wind up in court criminal libel. 207 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,519 John Peter Zenger, which is the first case in the United States, 208 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:41,679 was a printer who printed the truth about some Shenanigans one of my favorite words. 209 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,759 By the way, Yes, I don't know whether i'd be held viable 210 00:16:44,799 --> 00:16:48,840 for it if I used it against certain politicians. But John Peter Zenger, 211 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:57,000 in the seventeen hundreds in New York was held was tried for criminal libel for 212 00:16:57,159 --> 00:17:07,319 publishing something about the colonial governor of New York. And it established a precedent 213 00:17:07,519 --> 00:17:11,839 and the common law of the United States that the truth is a defense. 214 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:22,160 But when you're actually sued for libel, uh, the other their party will 215 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:27,240 argue that it doesn't it doesn't matter that it's true, you know you anyways, 216 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:33,079 but criminal libel very hard to prove. I don't know of any case 217 00:17:33,559 --> 00:17:41,000 in a long time. Ah. Yes, but it's interested what you're talking 218 00:17:41,039 --> 00:17:45,720 about, because you know, even though my case was thrown out and the 219 00:17:45,839 --> 00:17:52,200 judge all but called the other party a liar, which was essentially what what 220 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:59,400 the issue was, although what you know, it wasn't it wasn't. You 221 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,680 know, you're not going to go into all that if you accuse somebody of 222 00:18:03,799 --> 00:18:08,880 malfies and of like covering something up. You're essentially saying they're lying. Right, 223 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:15,359 Yes, but the judge all but called the person that was suing me 224 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:21,960 in another individual liar, but use legal ease and threw it out. Then 225 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,880 you have to wait to see if they're going to appeal, you know, 226 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,039 them throwing the case out. But the person would have been foolish to have 227 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,319 gone ahead to do so. Yes, there was a very weak case to 228 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:37,640 begin with, from what I recall, Yes, there really was no case 229 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:42,160 at all. And of course when you come to rival and defamation case, 230 00:18:44,039 --> 00:18:51,880 you're dealing with the standard under in federal standard and Sullivan v. New York 231 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:59,599 is that you know, you have to have published it a falsehood against somebody 232 00:19:00,039 --> 00:19:07,519 going fully well that it was false and decide practically anyone who's famous or anyone 233 00:19:08,519 --> 00:19:15,599 that's known, like a politician, you can say anything you want about them, 234 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,839 right because nobody really knows what's in your mind unless you get nailed like 235 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:27,880 Tucker Carson. And they release all the emails right right, They found up 236 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:33,880 you know, text messages. They knew the truth, yeah, oh yeah, 237 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,799 and they just ignored it. All those sex messages. Yeah, they 238 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:40,480 exactly exactly, They knew the truth about the election, but they had to 239 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,559 play along because one of the one of the executives actually I think it might 240 00:19:44,599 --> 00:19:48,119 have been the CEO of of Fox who's uh at one point had sent out 241 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,799 an email saying, our viewers are getting upset with us. We need to 242 00:19:52,039 --> 00:19:56,359 uh, we need to help push this lie that the election was stolen. 243 00:19:56,240 --> 00:20:03,000 Our viewers are Carson, who who the emails revealed despised on Trump. This 244 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,680 whole thing was BSU said, we're going to lose our audience. We have 245 00:20:07,759 --> 00:20:11,400 to be loyal to our audience. Yea, yea yea. And how you 246 00:20:14,319 --> 00:20:18,920 had a record seven hundred and fifty million dollars. There might have been bigger 247 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,519 ones, right, but they're going to collect on this one. That was 248 00:20:22,559 --> 00:20:26,519 the biggest defamation in US history. I believe the biggest defamation judgment seven hundred 249 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:32,440 because you know these libel defamations and friend that there are gradations of that. 250 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,640 Yeah, but the thing is when we come to Trump. But one of 251 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:45,079 the things that limits you when you're getting sued like myself, you know, 252 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:49,839 you have an insurance policy and many a writer, including myself, as a 253 00:20:51,279 --> 00:20:56,960 professional and liability policy. Yeah, so there's I actually at the time I 254 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,920 did not have any insurance. I got sued, but the party that it 255 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,640 was world had got sued. But here's a different lawyer than I did. 256 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:11,799 My lawyer was a pro bone all and was the best libel defense lawyer in 257 00:21:11,799 --> 00:21:14,519 the state of New Hampshire. You know, is that type of case. 258 00:21:14,759 --> 00:21:21,400 Yeah, and uh, but you're toll if you do get sued and you 259 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,720 were you know, you're insurance companies handling it. And I said, the 260 00:21:23,759 --> 00:21:29,240 documents of my policy. But they are going to set whether you know, 261 00:21:29,319 --> 00:21:33,920 like if you get an appeal, whether they're going to pay for it or 262 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,799 not. Oh really, so they don't automatically pay for it necessarily or the 263 00:21:37,839 --> 00:21:44,640 appeal right, which means that they'll provide you the lawyer. But if they 264 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,279 say it's time to settle, you're going to settle, or the policy is 265 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:52,359 whole. You know, that's it ends right there. Oh so much. 266 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:57,160 Say, we got the appeal and then we went to court and they said, 267 00:21:57,759 --> 00:22:03,000 you know, well he don't want to do you know, the case 268 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:10,200 isn't case isn't worth putting in front of a judge. And the jury didn't 269 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:14,359 happened to us just got thrown off. Judge all but called the party a 270 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:21,720 liar, which you know, is the essence of the speech that was actionable 271 00:22:22,759 --> 00:22:30,200 and h which the person found actionable, which the person found offensive and needed 272 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,839 to cause certain voices during his reelection bid. But let's not get too into 273 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:41,319 that, right. The thing is with Trump. I don't see how Trump 274 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:47,279 could have any policy like not insurance policy. Now. I mean there's directors 275 00:22:47,319 --> 00:22:52,440 and officers of liability insurance like when the head of a corporation. There's E 276 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,960 and O areas in a mission. There's all these property and casualaty of policies, 277 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:06,680 both for business executives on individuals professionals. You know. But this guy 278 00:23:06,759 --> 00:23:12,480 must have burned through so many Whatever insurance he had to have had is long 279 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:18,400 gone. Does be finance most of his stuff by the boot blaise that keeps 280 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,119 sending in the contribution store them? Yes, that's true. There might be 281 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:27,759 an insurance ronc too, right, or the arency drop them after the Republican 282 00:23:27,839 --> 00:23:32,240 National Committee. They did, They did at one point announced that they were 283 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,640 going to stop paying his legal bills. But now that he's the pre as 284 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:40,319 I like to call him the presumptive presumptive nominee. They might be paying them 285 00:23:40,319 --> 00:23:44,319 again, I'm not sure. Right, I'm gonna let you go. I'm 286 00:23:44,319 --> 00:23:47,839 gonna let you go. I'm gonna I'm yes, they're gonna let me go. 287 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,960 Now now that I bought them to tears, they've taken off my knitted 288 00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:56,960 cap and now I can watch you online. So I'll take it away, 289 00:23:57,160 --> 00:24:03,000 Matt Connerton, all right and stay safe. Thanks for the call. Yes, 290 00:24:03,519 --> 00:24:07,960 the butts fair back to well of our hometime. Oh, thank good, 291 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,119 all right, bye bye. All right, Well, I'm glad that 292 00:24:10,759 --> 00:24:14,759 John will be okay, very good, very good. Yes, uh so, 293 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,400 uh so you do you do say? He was found guilty in legal 294 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,480 in legal terms. I like to be very precise about that. So that's 295 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,640 good. U six three two five six seven is the studio line six three 296 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:30,960 two five six seven, And we have a call. Hi, Welcome to 297 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:40,319 Matt Connors and Unleashed. Who's this what I'm excited about? The show? 298 00:24:41,519 --> 00:24:45,400 All right? I can't do that because it sounds like, uh, if 299 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,680 you're a regular listener, you know that voice. And unfortunately, the last 300 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,240 time I allowed one of his recordings to play on the show, it turned 301 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:53,160 out there was an F bomb in it, and I had to hit the 302 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:59,000 dump button. So now we can't even entertain his recorded calls anymore. But 303 00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:03,079 I'm glad he's excited it about his non existent show. That's as far as 304 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,680 we'll go with that, all right, if you are a actual legitimate caller 305 00:25:07,759 --> 00:25:18,799 six three two five six seven six two five six seven, let's seem Melanie 306 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,799 says in the chat room. So does that mean he was found too most 307 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,559 likely have sexually assaulted her and by saying she was lying, he defamed her 308 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:36,960 character? Yes, effectively as I understand it. John Hopwood he's also in 309 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,200 the chat room. He says it was a Trialford defamation. Trump has been 310 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,519 found guilty of defamation, Crystal pointed out in the chat room, you know, 311 00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:45,000 I was saying, very often the wealthy and powerful, they get away 312 00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:51,279 with no accountability because they, uh, they find ways to avoid it. 313 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,400 Of course, when you have money, you can do that, And Crystal 314 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:57,000 points out, O J hasn't paid the money that he owes that he was 315 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:02,200 ordered to pay in civil court. Yeah. The oldman's the family of Ron 316 00:26:02,279 --> 00:26:04,440 Goldman, they never got I don't think they've ever seen a dime of that 317 00:26:04,519 --> 00:26:08,599 money man. It's been decades now. I think EASYG is on the line. 318 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,759 Hello, Yeah, you're right. I don't think they've seen a dime 319 00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:18,519 either. Nope. Yeah, anyways, the quick points it for you. 320 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,680 Yeah, was listening to this Rassling Live. There's this podcast every day comes 321 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,680 up with like a nine minute thing. They were saying that bruck wasn't failed 322 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,599 a drug test. Was that when he was a uh when he was with 323 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,880 the cage fighting or was that the uh w W? Never the the story 324 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:40,240 lineball Doddy fail a drug test? I think it was when he was in 325 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:45,599 UFC for steroid. Yeah. Remember it was saying nothing happened to the coin 326 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,799 to this guy here, different rules for brock Lesser and the different rules for 327 00:26:48,839 --> 00:26:52,839 everybody else. Probably, I don't really old story though, wasn't it. 328 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,119 That's an old story. Yeah, so I don't really remember Eric, to 329 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:59,359 be honest with it. That's what I thought, because the the last last 330 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,839 night in the show there. Uh yeah, I want to fight Cody Rose 331 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,880 now again. Yeah. I guess you're right. Now they want they want 332 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,279 to give him the consolation price. I guess for the bell, thank you 333 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,920 pretty good. I guess Rowan reins what it's like going a half an hour 334 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:18,319 match. Yeah, and WrestleMania, yes, yes. So anyways, that's 335 00:27:18,599 --> 00:27:21,680 my two cents. Let you go on to the rest, all right, 336 00:27:21,759 --> 00:27:23,599 Eric, thanks for the call. Bye bye. You should have known by 337 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:27,839 now easy do all right? If you got something on topic, the phone 338 00:27:27,839 --> 00:27:33,880 line is open six three two five six zero seven six three two five six 339 00:27:33,519 --> 00:27:38,119 seven. John Hopwood says, uh, regarding the Trump case, it means 340 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:42,519 the jury believed her story the Trump raped her and said O J didn't have 341 00:27:42,599 --> 00:27:45,799 the money to pay the judgment. He spent the entirety of his eight million 342 00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:52,680 dollar fortune on his defense, almost to the penny. Yeah, that's true. 343 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,039 I do remember reading about that. Alex Whiteley, our friend from the 344 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,000 UK, says, honor is hard to come by. Look at our current 345 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,680 monarchy in the UK. This Trump thing doesn't surprise me. He is untouchable 346 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,960 obviously. Well, I mean he was, like I said, he was 347 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,240 found libel or found guilty in this case. But uh, but uh, 348 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,000 you know, I doubt that. I'm just very skeptical that she'll ever see 349 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,000 a dime of that money. That that uh, that tends to be how 350 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,240 it works. Um. Oh, our friend Marco Muller or Mueller in the 351 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,359 chat room from the band Factory of Art all the Way in Germany joins us. 352 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,480 Hello, Hello, Marco. John Hopwood shared an article in the chat 353 00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:37,720 room from Forbes magazine. H. According to this, Trump is worth two 354 00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:41,720 and a half billion currently. Um oh, policy joins us in. The 355 00:28:41,759 --> 00:28:45,519 chairman says a hello, big fan policy of course from retro Spectrum Radio with 356 00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:51,799 policy every Friday night from eight to eleven pm right here on WMNH. Now, 357 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,880 I want to talk a little bit about, uh, just a couple 358 00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:03,839 of observations, um about about the Now I'm not going to uh look, 359 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,240 I wasn't in the courtroom, and neither were any of you, and the 360 00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:12,759 proceedings, the court proceedings themselves were not televised. So I just have observations 361 00:29:12,759 --> 00:29:17,359 that I'm going to make about what did get out in terms of obviously people 362 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,160 were reporting on the case, it was being reported in the media what was 363 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,640 going on in the courtroom. But we did get presumably, I guess, 364 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:32,240 because it's a matter of public record. Uh, the deposition that Trump had 365 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:37,279 participated in. Now, there were two things in this deposition that that really 366 00:29:37,319 --> 00:29:42,440 stood out to me though that um. Now, and before I go any 367 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:48,680 further with this, I'm gonna I'm gonna say this upfront, m because I'm 368 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,240 gonna make a couple of observations about how I think Trump really harmed himself in 369 00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:56,759 that deposition, which is why they did not want him showing up in court 370 00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:00,599 and put it, put him on the sand, and everything I've heard, 371 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:06,519 even people who are big fans of Trump acknowledge that in many ways he can 372 00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:11,039 be his own worst enemy and he does create his own problems. But let's 373 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,559 put everything else aside. Again, I wasn't in the courtroom, okay, 374 00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:18,759 but I just want to look at a couple of moments from the depositions, 375 00:30:18,839 --> 00:30:26,160 specifically that really I found a bit chilling, quite frankly. But before I 376 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,359 go any further with that, the thing that I really want to say to 377 00:30:29,359 --> 00:30:32,920 people is because I already know. I already know some people are going to 378 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,359 hear me talking about this and they're gonna say, oh, Matt, you're 379 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,400 just saying this because you don't like Trump, you hate Trump this, and 380 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:45,880 that I'm gonna tell you right now, the observations that I have made and 381 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:49,599 will make now about this deposition. It has nothing to do with how I 382 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:55,480 feel about the former president. I would have these same thoughts if I heard 383 00:30:55,519 --> 00:30:57,799 anyone saying these things, anyone at all. It doesn't matter who it is. 384 00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:03,480 It could be one of my heroes, someone I idolize, and I 385 00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:07,000 would and I would feel this way about this material. Okay, you know, 386 00:31:07,319 --> 00:31:11,519 it wouldn't matter if it was you know, one of my radio heroes 387 00:31:11,519 --> 00:31:17,559 like Howard Stern or or one of my music heroes like Gene Simmons of Kiss. 388 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,119 I would feel this way about these specific soundclips. And I'm going to 389 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,839 play from the deposition. There's two There's two moments that really I was like, 390 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,920 whoa, Okay, so, uh, you know, whoever wants to 391 00:31:30,119 --> 00:31:33,640 whoever wants to come at me with the whole you know, Oh, Matt, 392 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:34,920 you're just you, You just you're just saying this because you don't like 393 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,680 Trump. You can just miss me with that, Okay, I'm not going 394 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:45,680 to engage on that. This is he said things that should bother you, 395 00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:49,400 even if you're a supporter. I mean, I understand if you're a supporter. 396 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,160 Uh, there's not much he can do that will bother you ever. 397 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,039 Uh, and of course he'll be able to raise more money off of this, 398 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,920 you know, because he plays the victim card and people send him money. 399 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:06,039 It's remarkable. But there are two specific things in the deposition that he 400 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,759 said that. The first thing that came out was a video of him talking 401 00:32:09,799 --> 00:32:15,160 about and everyone has heard it now, she's not my type. You know, 402 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:22,319 I couldn't have done this. She's not my type. Well anybody, 403 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:28,880 I mean, he sounds like that's just a very ignorant thing to say. 404 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,599 Host Scott Robinson said, would it matter from one of your listening heroes? 405 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,680 No? No, And by the way, if you're wondering why I didn't 406 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,920 say one of my political heroes, it's because I don't have any. I 407 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:45,640 don't think you should have political heroes, by the way, because that you 408 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,759 know. I'm not a religious man, but there are reasons why the Bible 409 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,400 says you should not engage in idolatry. Having political heroes is very dangerous because 410 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:59,000 you become taken in by them and then you believe anything they shovel you, 411 00:32:59,079 --> 00:33:00,960 no matter how absurd. You should not have political heroes. This is my 412 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,039 personal opinion. I know, uh, many of you will disagree with that, 413 00:33:05,119 --> 00:33:09,759 but um, you know, whether it's maga people who love Trump or 414 00:33:10,119 --> 00:33:15,240 you know Bernie, people who love Bernie. It's it's okay to admire things 415 00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:19,839 about a politician, but you should not idolize a politician. That's just my 416 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:29,480 view. I I think I think that leads you into occult perhaps okay to 417 00:33:30,039 --> 00:33:34,519 So the first thing is though, that she's not my type thing. Um 418 00:33:35,559 --> 00:33:40,359 as I understand it. Uh, and I guess uh. Trump obviously either 419 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:47,559 doesn't realize this or doesn't care. H. But and I I was able 420 00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:51,319 to. This was explained to me at a pretty young age. And I 421 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:57,039 understood it when I understood this when I was a child. Um, rape 422 00:33:57,119 --> 00:34:02,480 is not about uh, sexual attraction. It's it's not about uh, someone 423 00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:07,360 being your type that doesn't enter into it. Rape is about It's about power 424 00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:15,679 and domination and violence. It's a violent crime. It's not about sex. 425 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:21,760 It's not about attraction. You know. Uh some pos who who uh you 426 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,559 know, hides in a say, a parking garage and waits for a woman 427 00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:30,119 to walk by so he can jump on her and sexually assaulter. Uh you 428 00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:36,000 know that guy. He's not doing that because he's found a woman he's attracted 429 00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:40,880 to. That's that's not what what drives that. Okay, so the it's 430 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:45,719 not my type thing? That's that sounds like it? Like, I mean, 431 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:52,400 that's what an absurd thing to say, and it and it it sort 432 00:34:52,440 --> 00:35:00,320 of trivializes in a way. Um, not that this is his inten I 433 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:05,039 think he's too necessarily, I think he's too oblivious to even realize what his 434 00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:07,760 words sound like. But it it has a way of sort of trivializing. 435 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,760 Now, maybe he does know trivializing what he's accused of to say, oh, 436 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:17,559 I wouldn't do that, she's not my type. Um, I mean 437 00:35:20,159 --> 00:35:25,119 that's that. He really does sound like a knuckle dragging Neanderthal saying something like 438 00:35:25,159 --> 00:35:34,599 that. Um, that's not that's not what sexual assault is about. And 439 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:40,599 again, you know, I I've understood this since I was a child, 440 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:45,360 But this nearer eighty year old man, he's in his late seventies. Apparently 441 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,679 he doesn't understand that. Maybe there's something generational to that. I don't know. 442 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,639 Um, maybe it's just I don't know, Maybe it's hyper masculinity. 443 00:35:55,679 --> 00:36:00,360 I don't know what it is. But he clearly doesn't get it or he's 444 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:05,320 just being willfully obtuse. But that's not what you say about something like this, 445 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,920 she's not my type. Oh my god, I found that very chilling 446 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:15,599 when I saw that. I mean to say something like, you know, 447 00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:20,800 it almost he almost sounds like someone who would say, you know, on 448 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,199 the eve of the Louisiana Primary, I don't know what the KKK is. 449 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:27,320 I don't know what you're talking about. To Jake Tapper on CNA. We 450 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,880 won't get into that, but I mean, we've got the we've got the 451 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:37,559 audio here. This is the first thing that I wanted to just just mentioned. 452 00:36:37,639 --> 00:36:40,920 But if you haven't heard it, when you said that miss Carroll was 453 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,400 not your type, you meant that she was not your type physically, right. 454 00:36:49,639 --> 00:36:52,920 I saw her in a picture. I didn't know what you looked like, 455 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,199 and I said it, and I say it with as much respect as 456 00:36:58,199 --> 00:37:01,719 I can, but she is not my type. And again, when you 457 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,320 say type, you just refer to looking at photos, So you mean physically 458 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,400 she's not your type. Physically, she's not my type. And now that 459 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:15,119 I've gotten indirectly to hear things about her, she wouldn't be my type in 460 00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:17,039 any way, shape or form. But when you were talking back on June 461 00:37:17,079 --> 00:37:22,400 twenty fourth, you were referring to her not being your type physically. I 462 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,880 saw a photo of her, and the only difference between me and other people 463 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:32,360 is I'm honest, she's not my type. Wow. Wow, dude, 464 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:39,840 thanks for your honesty. I mean, that's and I'm telling you, you 465 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:45,400 know, I get it. They didn't want him going and testifying, or 466 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,079 maybe he didn't want to, but you know, you put him on the 467 00:37:47,119 --> 00:37:52,519 stand, he's gonna say things like I guarantee you again, I'm not making 468 00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:55,800 judgments about the case itself. I wasn't there. I was not in the 469 00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:01,079 courtroom, and they were not the proceedings themselves Elves. The trial itself was 470 00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:08,519 not broadcast publicly. But um, I'm just telling you though, just that 471 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:14,000 bit of video right there. If I had been in that courtroom, I'm 472 00:38:14,039 --> 00:38:19,960 sure the jury was sitting there going what did he just say? What are 473 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:29,360 we talking about here? I would imagine that they were pretty repulsed by that. 474 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:38,400 And here's the other thing. Well, and again, I'm not gonna 475 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,920 be uh, I'm not gonna be descriptive here. You know, it's an 476 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,760 afternoon drive show. I don't so we don't want to get into the graphic 477 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,280 details, but I will tell you this and it relates to this other clip 478 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,320 that I want to play that I think severely damaged him in court. It 479 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:57,519 had to have, and some of you might be able to accurately predict what 480 00:38:57,559 --> 00:39:00,880 I'm about to what the clip is from the depths position, but but again 481 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,960 not being descriptive, you can look it up if you're unclear on what I'm 482 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:13,840 talking about. But when she describes the way that she alleges he assaulted her, 483 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:23,159 the details of precisely what happened during that allegedly again he you know, 484 00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:34,000 but when she describes that, it makes his access Hollywood comments, um, 485 00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:38,480 particularly chilling. And I'll leave it at that. And if you don't know 486 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,559 what I'm talking about, you'll have to look it up yourself, because we 487 00:39:40,559 --> 00:39:45,039 can't. This would not be the place to get into that in detail, 488 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,079 although they talked about it on cable news, but I don't. On this 489 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,639 radio program, we're not gonna get into the details of that. But um, 490 00:39:53,119 --> 00:39:55,360 so I'll leave that at that. But I will play this audio from 491 00:39:55,400 --> 00:40:01,519 you again. This is from the deposition with the particular the P word has 492 00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:05,440 bleeped out in this particular clip, so I can I can play this, 493 00:40:05,599 --> 00:40:08,360 But if you didn't hear this. Uh, this is this relates to the 494 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:13,639 Access Hollywood tape. It's true with stars they're thinking grab women by the Well, 495 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,320 that's what that's If you look over the last million years, I guess 496 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:22,960 that's been largely too, not always, but largely true. So just to 497 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:28,480 be clear, So she's asking him, she's asking him about that comment about 498 00:40:28,519 --> 00:40:37,119 grabbing women by them, and he and and uh and he and he says, 499 00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:38,559 well, if you know, over the last million years, that's been 500 00:40:38,679 --> 00:40:45,639 largely true. What does that even mean? I mean? Is he is 501 00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:51,280 he saying that? Is he saying that? Is he making an observation that 502 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:57,280 when you're famous and wealthy you can get away with things that would be true? 503 00:40:58,119 --> 00:41:00,079 That is what happens, right, when you're famous and wealthy, you 504 00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:04,239 do get away with a lot of things that you wouldn't get get away with 505 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:09,199 otherwise. Is he saying that or is he saying, yeah, that's one 506 00:41:09,199 --> 00:41:12,800 of the perks of being somebody like me, I can get away with it. 507 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,480 Of course it's been that way for the past million years. Is that 508 00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:21,480 what he's saying? What is he saying exactly here? Whatever it is, 509 00:41:21,519 --> 00:41:23,880 it's not good. I'm gonna start that over from the beginning. It's true 510 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,840 stars, they're thinking grab women by the well, that's what that's If you 511 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,679 look over the last million years, I guess that's been largely too, not 512 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:44,159 always, but largely true. Unfortunately or fortunately unfortunately or fortunately what just digging 513 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,239 that hole, dude, I mean, I'm telling you, can you imagine 514 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:52,719 sitting on that jury and hearing this, and you consider yourself to be a 515 00:41:52,760 --> 00:42:00,440 star. I think you can say that she's accusing me of rape a woman 516 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:01,800 that I have no idea. This is, by the way, a different 517 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,679 part of the deposition. I'm not sure why this part is included in this 518 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,400 clip, but I'm gonna let this play. It's it's it's brief, but 519 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:14,280 we'll see how this this must relate somehow to the previous comment. Who she 520 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,239 is? It came out of the blue. She's accusing me of rape, 521 00:42:17,559 --> 00:42:22,519 of raping her, the worst thing you can do, the worst charge. 522 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:29,400 And you know it's you know it's not true too. You're a political operative. 523 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:34,320 Also, you're a disgrace. But she's accusing me, and so are 524 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,760 you, of rape and it never took place. And I will tell you 525 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,880 I've made that statement, and I said, well, it's politically incorrect. 526 00:42:42,119 --> 00:42:45,840 She's not my type. And that's one hundred percent true that it's not my 527 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:51,159 type. There's this ridiculous situation that we're doing right. It's a big fat 528 00:42:51,199 --> 00:42:53,400 hook. She's a liar, and she's a sick person, in my opinion, 529 00:42:53,679 --> 00:43:00,880 really sick, something wrong with her. Um all. So I would 530 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:06,840 guess, uh that part of why uh he didn't testify in person was, 531 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:12,159 um, you know, I mean, anybody with any common sense knows you 532 00:43:12,199 --> 00:43:17,159 don't start insulting the accuser, I mean, can you and and insulting the 533 00:43:17,199 --> 00:43:22,880 person taking the deposition. I assume that, I mean, you know, 534 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,239 you don't just start insulting every I know that's Trump's thing. He insults people, 535 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,840 and uh, you know, and and some of his supporters like that 536 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:34,880 about him. He's a fighter. Um yeah, you don't start insulting the 537 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:42,360 accuser, you know, maybe, I mean, geez, even um when 538 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:47,199 when some people were I'll just give you an example, because I remember when 539 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:52,639 uh, when Brett Kavanaugh Justice Kavanaugh, while he wasn't Justice Kavanaugh yet, 540 00:43:52,639 --> 00:43:55,679 but when he was being confirmed, you know, and uh we all, 541 00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:04,519 I'm sure remember he was accused of sexual assault and some of his defenders in 542 00:44:04,639 --> 00:44:07,119 Congress would say, you know, on the Republican side would say, well, 543 00:44:07,159 --> 00:44:10,440 I'm sure I can't forgive me. I can't remember the name of the 544 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:15,599 accuser now who testified. But they some of them would say. They would 545 00:44:15,639 --> 00:44:19,559 be very careful with their language, and they would say, well, I'm 546 00:44:19,559 --> 00:44:22,599 sure something happened to her. I just don't believe that it was Brett Kavanaugh. 547 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,920 I think someone did something to her. In other words, so they 548 00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:30,440 would they would express it. They didn't didn't believe her, but they wouldn't 549 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,639 call her a liar or a sick person. They would say, you know, 550 00:44:32,679 --> 00:44:37,400 it was a long time ago, this was in high school. Something 551 00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:43,519 happened to her, but but you can't prove that it was Brett Cavanaugh. 552 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,719 That's how they would play it. Whether you agree with that or not, 553 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:50,360 I'm just saying, I'm just using that as an example. You know, 554 00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:53,760 So, if Trump were not his own worst enemy, and if he did 555 00:44:53,840 --> 00:45:00,280 not insist on self immolating at every opportunity, he might have said something like 556 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:04,800 that. You know, clearly something may have happened to her at some point 557 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,840 and she thinks it was me or you know, or however he wanted to 558 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,840 play it right, but to sit there and start insulting her. And again 559 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:17,920 the jury hears this, and what must they be thinking when they hear him 560 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:24,079 talking that way about her? I mean, so again, I wasn't in 561 00:45:24,119 --> 00:45:28,880 the courtroom. I'm not making any judgments. I'm just telling you, based 562 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,880 on these clips, how I think that that probably went over in court. 563 00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:40,039 And based on these clips from the deposition, Just on these bits of audio 564 00:45:40,079 --> 00:45:45,960 and video alone, it's hard to imagine that they would come back with any 565 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:51,079 other decision other than that he was liable. That's just my view of it. 566 00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:54,920 Based on that. I mean, he sounds like like, you know, 567 00:45:55,039 --> 00:45:59,679 like a character out of the series mad Men or something. I mean, 568 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:05,480 it's it's uh, you know. And and again, I know a 569 00:46:05,519 --> 00:46:07,079 lot of his supporters are fine with all of that, but you know, 570 00:46:08,119 --> 00:46:13,480 I don't know, suburban women Republicans who already abandoned him in twenty twenty, 571 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,079 are they going to go for all that in twenty twenty four, because you 572 00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:20,159 know that's going to show up in a campaign ad eventually, right, I 573 00:46:20,199 --> 00:46:22,159 don't know. I uh, I mean, I realize it'll help, it'll 574 00:46:22,159 --> 00:46:27,039 all help him, It'll help him raise money. This judgment because every time, 575 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,239 you know, he's he's been able to um to make it so that 576 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:36,400 whatever whatever negative things happen to him legally, he's able to raise money off 577 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,880 of it. So it actually benefits him. Every every uh, every loss, 578 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:46,880 every l that he takes legally is actually a win uh in terms of 579 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:53,159 raising money and and will ultimately help him get the nomination. Uh. So 580 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:58,800 you know, in a sense, he's probably celebrating this right because he'll when 581 00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:00,199 he does the town hall and he and he'll bring it up can you believe 582 00:47:00,199 --> 00:47:05,360 how unfairly I've been treated by this court? And you know you know what 583 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,480 I mean. It'll he'll raise plenty of money off of it. So it's 584 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,800 good for him in a business sense, from a business standpoint, if you 585 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,159 think of think of the campaign as a business, which of course it is. 586 00:47:20,199 --> 00:47:27,480 Let's see John hopwould put in the chat room, if the judgment is 587 00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:31,119 upheld, she will take legal action to get the loot. She was awarded 588 00:47:31,159 --> 00:47:37,360 five million in damages. The jury decided that Miss Carroll. This is pasted 589 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:42,039 from somewhere obviously, but the jury decided that Miss Carroll again, John hop 590 00:47:42,039 --> 00:47:46,480 would put this in proved by a preponderance of the evidence that mister Trump sexually 591 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:52,239 abused her and that she was injured by a result of his conduct. The 592 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:58,679 jury decided that two million dollars would fairly and adequately compensate her for her injuries. 593 00:47:59,079 --> 00:48:02,719 The jury also just ided that mister Trump should pay Miss Carroll twenty thousand 594 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:08,519 dollars in punitive damages because his conduct was quote willfully or wantonly, negligent, 595 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:14,960 reckless, or done with a conscious disregard of the rights of Miss Carroll, 596 00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:21,800 or was so reckless as to amount to such disregard unquote. The jury also 597 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:27,519 found that mister Trump defamed Miss Carroll, that she was injured, and that 598 00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:30,519 she was injured as a result of his October twenty twenty two truth social post. 599 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:37,039 They decided that she should be paid one million dollars for damages unrelated to 600 00:48:37,199 --> 00:48:42,199 a reputation repair program and one point seven million dollars for a reputation repair program 601 00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,519 only. The jury also found that mister Trump quote acted maliciously out of hatred, 602 00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:52,599 ill will spite, or wanton, reckless or willful disregard of the rights 603 00:48:52,639 --> 00:48:57,800 of another unquote, and that Miss Carroll should be paid two hundred eighty thousand 604 00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:07,639 dollars. Here's the and John Hopp would also posted in the chatrooman these statement 605 00:49:07,679 --> 00:49:14,199 from the Trump campaign. Here comes the sales pitch. Here it comes the 606 00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,239 Democratic Party's never ending which hunt of President Trump at a new low today in 607 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:23,960 jurisdictions wholly controlled by the Democratic Party, our nation's justice system is now compromised 608 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:30,840 by extremist left wing politics. We have allowed false and totally made up claims, 609 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:38,159 totally made up claims from troubled individuals to interfere with our elections, doing 610 00:49:38,199 --> 00:49:43,840 great damage. Make no mistake, this entire bogus case is a political endeavor 611 00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:50,880 targeting President Trump because he is now an overwhelming front runner to be once again 612 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,800 elected president of the United States. The continued abuse of our great Constitution for 613 00:49:54,840 --> 00:50:00,519 political ends is disgusting and cannot be tolerated. Our nation isn't SERI trouble. 614 00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,679 Sorry, somebody keeps messaging me ow can I oh, there we go? 615 00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,679 Our nation is in serious trouble when claims lacking any evidence or proof or eyewitnesses 616 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:13,840 can include I'm sorry, I can invade our courts to score political points. 617 00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:16,800 Sadly, for the enemies of American freedom and democracy, President Trump will never 618 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:24,480 stop Wait what, Oh, this is an oddly constructed sentence. This is 619 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:32,400 poorly written, sadly for the enemies of American freedom and democracy. President Trump 620 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:38,159 will never stop fighting for the American people. No matter what the radical Democrats 621 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:43,599 dream up next. This case will be appealed and we will ultimately win. 622 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:52,079 That's a statement from Trump. That sentence was poorly constructed. Sadly should not 623 00:50:52,119 --> 00:50:54,800 have opened in the beginning because it makes it sound like sadly Trump will never 624 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,960 stop fighting, which is obviously not the intention of the sentence. But anyway, 625 00:50:59,039 --> 00:51:01,719 I'm a stickler for things like that. Um. But uh yeah, 626 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:06,519 that's the sales pitch. So in other words, we lost a judgment. 627 00:51:06,679 --> 00:51:10,280 Send money. That's that's what it's all about. That's what it's all about. 628 00:51:13,119 --> 00:51:16,039 Melanie says in the chat room that deposition recording was disgusting. Oh yeah, 629 00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:21,239 like I said, he sounds like a character out of Madmen. Um. 630 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:28,519 Oh. JPV joins us in the Facebook live chat. Hello, JPV 631 00:51:28,599 --> 00:51:31,079 says, stay away from Saint Anselm's College tomorrow. Trump is speaking. Well, 632 00:51:31,159 --> 00:51:34,760 is that where they're doing the CNN thing too? That the town hall 633 00:51:36,559 --> 00:51:43,440 um policy says, make America cool again. Arthur Fonzarelli twenty twenty four. 634 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:49,920 If Henry Winkler were running, I'd probably vote for him. Um, he 635 00:51:50,039 --> 00:51:52,599 might be older than Biden. Actually I'm at this point, I'm not sure, 636 00:51:52,639 --> 00:52:01,159 but he seems perfectly lucid. M Melanie said in the chat room, 637 00:52:01,199 --> 00:52:06,360 and when he said it to the female lawyer, like that is the worst 638 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,119 possible insult he could give a woman. Oh yeah again, imagine that, 639 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:15,960 and imagine that the deposition is being played in a courtroom and he's saying that 640 00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:21,440 to her in the deposition. And you're not my type either, You could 641 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:27,880 never possibly be my type, just being honest, Like wow, wow, 642 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:35,000 dude, it's like, why why not? I mean, if you're gonna, 643 00:52:35,159 --> 00:52:37,280 if you're gonna do it, go all the way with it, show 644 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,559 up at the deposition with a can of gasoline and a lighter and just, 645 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:45,360 uh, you know, light yourself up right there. I mean, why 646 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:50,599 not? Right? No? Because then you couldn't collect the money later from 647 00:52:50,639 --> 00:52:52,119 your donors. I mean, I understand why not. I'm kidding, but 648 00:52:53,280 --> 00:53:00,400 but that's what I mean. Like he self immolates at every at every possibility, 649 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:06,320 and you know, he an opportunity and he just h. But again 650 00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:12,480 he knows it doesn't matter. It's almost it's almost as though I don't think 651 00:53:12,519 --> 00:53:15,960 this is really the case, because I don't think he I don't think he 652 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:21,079 h. I don't think this is actually a strategy. But you would almost 653 00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:25,039 have to wonder does he do that on purpose to make sure he loses because 654 00:53:25,079 --> 00:53:30,960 he knows if he loses, he can appeal it. He's probably never gonna 655 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:34,840 have to pay the money. And again he gets to raise money off of 656 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:45,199 it for the campaign. Jenny said, Uh, he certainly said it was 657 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:52,000 still that way to him today. Um. Melanie says, can't he be 658 00:53:52,119 --> 00:53:57,599 blocked from profiting from this case? I don't know, and and it probably 659 00:53:57,599 --> 00:54:02,360 wouldn't Um, it probably wouldn't matter as far as raising money for his campaign. 660 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,840 And I don't think there's anything in campaign finance law that blocks you from 661 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:12,639 raising money off of something like this anyway. Our campaign finance laws are pretty 662 00:54:12,679 --> 00:54:15,920 weak in less country to begin with us for sure. Mariam Bannish joins us 663 00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:20,000 in the Facebook live chat. Hello, Jenny says, I think that is 664 00:54:20,039 --> 00:54:22,760 only in criminal cases. That's probably correct. Yes, as far as not 665 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:29,079 being able to profit from it, Miriam says, oh, referring to Henry 666 00:54:29,119 --> 00:54:31,679 Winkler the Fawns, I would certainly or I would totally vote for him. 667 00:54:32,159 --> 00:54:37,280 No other candidate can jump a shark. That's right for you young uns who 668 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:40,000 don't know. That's where that expression comes from, jump the shark. That 669 00:54:40,039 --> 00:54:47,440 comes from the Fawns Happy Days where he jumped some sharks. I think we 670 00:54:47,519 --> 00:54:52,280 should let's take a break and then we'll come back in the second hour and 671 00:54:52,360 --> 00:55:00,400 we'll we'll talk about some other things and we'll get an update regarding the debt 672 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:05,800 limit. But you know, I opened with a I opened with a song 673 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,119 from Dust Profit. Maybe we'll play another Dust Profit song because people seem to 674 00:55:08,159 --> 00:55:16,239 really like, really like this band, and I like them too. I 675 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,639 used to be in a band with one of the guys in Dust Profit. 676 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,360 Let's see. Yeah, we'll play Bury Me before noon. I think this 677 00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,079 is the newest single. Anyway, we'll give this a listen, and we'll 678 00:55:25,079 --> 00:55:28,519 show some love to our amazing sponsors, and then we'll be back with the 679 00:55:28,559 --> 00:55:30,400 balance of our show. We'll look for an update on the debt limit. 680 00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:36,679 Kevin McCarthy was going to the White House today to meet with President Biden, 681 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,679 and I think McConnell is there as well, and for all we know, 682 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:46,039 the meeting might already be over. I will check. I'm not optimistic on 683 00:55:46,159 --> 00:55:51,760 that subject, and we'll see what else we get into. So there's plenty 684 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:53,960 more Matt Connerton Unleash to come. Don't go away. Here's here's some dust. 685 00:55:53,960 --> 00:56:39,440 Profit. This is called bury me before noon. Welcome back everybody. 686 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:45,079 We are well in our number two numarrow dose of Matt Connerton Unleashed and we 687 00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:49,760 are live from the studios of w m n H ninety five point three FM 688 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,239 in glorious downtown Manchester, New Hampshire, also on Comcast ninety seven if you're 689 00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:57,440 in Manchester, and hello to all of our online listeners across the nation and 690 00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,719 around the globe. You can go to my website Matt Connerton dot com for 691 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,679 all your live streaming options, social media links, contact info, show archives, 692 00:57:05,039 --> 00:57:09,480 etc. Etc. Today is Tuesday, May nine, two thousand to 693 00:57:09,599 --> 00:57:13,880 twenty three, so nice to have you all with me. If you'd like 694 00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:15,599 to join us on the program today, six ZO three two five six Z 695 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:20,280 seven is a studio line six ZO three two five oz six zoo seven. 696 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,840 You can also text me at six one seven nine one seven four four seven 697 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:28,639 six. I'm on social media at Matt Connerton. You can email me Matt 698 00:57:28,679 --> 00:57:31,519 at Matt Connerton dot com, and of course you can interact endo Pine in 699 00:57:31,559 --> 00:57:35,760 the Facebook live chat. I haven't seen anybody in there from Greensboro, North 700 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:37,800 Carolina yet today. That's unusual. But the best thing to do, of 701 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:42,239 course, so that we can hear and enjoy your dulcet tones is give us 702 00:57:42,239 --> 00:57:45,079 a call at six zo three two five O six z seven six zo three 703 00:57:45,159 --> 00:57:49,559 two five o six zero seven. By the way, regarding the possibility of 704 00:57:49,599 --> 00:57:52,199 the fonds in the White House, Paul C said in the chat room, 705 00:57:52,199 --> 00:57:57,639 it would be cool if he brought a jukebox into the Oval office with him 706 00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:02,599 and whenever something bad happen and he punches the jukebox and the problem goes away, 707 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:07,800 then everyone goes to Arnold's for burgers and a malt. Uh. It's 708 00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,280 a win win. Yes, Yes, that would be very exciting. I 709 00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:15,320 would vote for that. Uh, certainly. Um, let's see. By 710 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,599 the way, I checked on the debt Apparently the debt limit meeting is under 711 00:58:17,679 --> 00:58:23,159 way. Um, we might come back to that. I'm gonna wait and 712 00:58:23,199 --> 00:58:28,360 see if there's like I said, I'm unfortunately, I think it might conclude 713 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,880 quickly. I'm not expecting that to be a long meeting. So we'll revisit 714 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,760 that a little bit later in the show to see if there's some actual news 715 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,880 on that, uh, in terms of an outcome. But I wanted to 716 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:43,199 look at this a couple other things just quickly, and then we will we 717 00:58:43,239 --> 00:58:47,000 will go back to the debt ceiling or debt limit or whatever term you prefer, 718 00:58:49,039 --> 00:58:52,400 shortly before the end of the show. But um, I wanted to 719 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:57,679 make fun of Vladimir Putin. I enjoy that make fun of Russia U due 720 00:58:57,719 --> 00:59:02,880 to their invasion of Ukraine. This is from CNN. Putin leads scaled back 721 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:08,679 victory Day in Moscow. As warren Ukraine comes under mounting pressure. Things continue 722 00:59:08,719 --> 00:59:12,159 to go badly for the Russians in Ukraine. Of course, it's now been 723 00:59:12,199 --> 00:59:15,599 over a year, so apparently they they had their their annual May Day parade 724 00:59:16,079 --> 00:59:21,960 and it was if you've seen any of the video of it, it was 725 00:59:22,039 --> 00:59:27,159 not not quite the usual standard of what they do for for the big parade. 726 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,679 Uh, you know where they celebrate to feeding the Nazis of course in 727 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:35,760 World War two and uh, they were allied with US and that, of 728 00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:39,320 course, but today things are very different. But the Russian military not in 729 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:45,000 the state that it once was. It says here, Oh, actually we 730 00:59:45,039 --> 00:59:49,239 have a call. Let's grab this. Hi, welcome to Matt Connerton. 731 00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,760 Unleash. Who's this Hello, Matt, It's Polly Hey, what's up? 732 00:59:52,760 --> 01:00:00,519 Policy from retro Spectrum Radio. Yes, I do endorse Arthur funds ARELLIU president 733 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:05,159 Yox. Thing worked. I mean, the whole idea would be great, 734 01:00:05,239 --> 01:00:09,480 except he's got to keep Chocci out of there. He's got to keep Scott 735 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:15,760 Bay away from the White House completely. Oh, I agree. Yes, 736 01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:21,159 it will be a Choccy free zone. Yes, absolutely, it'll go back 737 01:00:21,159 --> 01:00:23,639 to the original days of happy days before Chachi. That way, there'll be 738 01:00:23,639 --> 01:00:30,519 no problems and nobody uh causing a ruckus. Yes, that sounds good. 739 01:00:30,719 --> 01:00:35,880 I never I never trusted that guy Chocci. Yeah, no, he uh 740 01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:42,960 he's kind of weird anyway, Yes, yes, in his ways. Um 741 01:00:43,039 --> 01:00:45,199 so, yeah, I just wanted to call and uh, actually you know 742 01:00:45,199 --> 01:00:49,360 what it is pronounced. It is pronounced malted, Matt, I'm malted. 743 01:00:51,320 --> 01:00:54,000 Yes, it's a malted. It's it's short from malted milk and that's what 744 01:00:54,039 --> 01:00:59,760 they used to call them for short back when the uh the kids went to 745 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,800 the soda fountains over at the drug store, they'd be malted. Oh okay, 746 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:07,400 I thought it was malt. Yeah, alright, alright, past ten. 747 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:14,119 Gotcha. Hey, this Friday night, we're doing something really cool with 748 01:01:14,159 --> 01:01:16,400 the music. And I never thought we'd ever do anything like this, but 749 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:21,679 I listened to a few tracks and I got totally sucked into this type of 750 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,599 music. So we're taking all these classic rock songs, Matt, and we're 751 01:01:24,639 --> 01:01:30,599 playing dubstep versions of them and dance versions, a little blend of you know, 752 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:37,360 modern day DJs and producers who took these old songs and produced them into 753 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,679 something brand new and futuristic and really awesome. And we're going to mix those 754 01:01:40,719 --> 01:01:46,800 with actual original dance versions of rock songs that we're never really quite popular back 755 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:52,159 in the day outside of nightclubs. Lots of classic rock tunes. A lot 756 01:01:52,199 --> 01:01:54,840 of people don't know that these bands were into making dance versions of their rocks, 757 01:01:55,159 --> 01:02:00,199 their rock songs, yea, And they would come out on twelve inch 758 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,800 singles, you know, and we'd beat mixed with them in the nightclubs and 759 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:06,079 everything. But you never really heard them on the radio. So we're gonna 760 01:02:06,119 --> 01:02:09,440 be featuring both those styles of music, uh this Friday night, and we're 761 01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:15,440 also going to be doing the name that nine at nine and another bonus round 762 01:02:15,519 --> 01:02:23,320 at ten. Oh, name that ten more. It's all okay and that 763 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:28,280 yeah, And that'll just be this weekend and then we'll go back to just 764 01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:32,039 the normal one round in two weeks. So if Steve crushes me at nine, 765 01:02:32,079 --> 01:02:37,800 I have a shot at redemption at ten. That's right, exactly good 766 01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:42,000 as it should be. You are correct, well, very good, We 767 01:02:42,039 --> 01:02:45,760 look forward, all right, Matt, all right, Paul, thank you 768 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,199 for the call. I have a good night and I'll keep listening. But 769 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,400 alright, man, bye bye. All right. That was policy from retro 770 01:02:52,519 --> 01:02:55,480 Spectrum Radio with policy every Friday night from eight to eleven pm. And by 771 01:02:55,519 --> 01:03:00,440 the way, it is Tuesday, which means tonight there is a replay of 772 01:03:00,519 --> 01:03:04,599 retro Spectrum Radio if you're listening live on Tuesday. Immediately after this show is 773 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,360 through the Stage Stoor with Rob Dion and then at seven pm is a replay 774 01:03:07,639 --> 01:03:12,039 of Retrospectrum Radio. So if you missed this past Friday's show, you can 775 01:03:12,039 --> 01:03:15,920 hear it tonight from seven to ten. Very good, very good, six 776 01:03:16,199 --> 01:03:20,639 three two five six seven. The studio line is open six zo three two 777 01:03:20,719 --> 01:03:23,920 five six z seven. So looking at this quickly, it says here this 778 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:30,800 is from CNN. Russian President Vladimir Putin led a paired down, significantly so 779 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:37,239 Victory Day parade in Moscow today as he repeated his false assertion that the West 780 01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:43,880 had launched a true war against Russia despite the Kremlin's unprovoked invasion of Ukraine. 781 01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,679 Thousands of people lined the streets in Moscow's Red Square as part of Russia's annual 782 01:03:46,679 --> 01:03:52,880 parade, an exhibition of patriotism marking the Soviet Union's role in defeating Nazi Germany 783 01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:58,719 in World War Two. Victory Day is the most significant day of Putin's calendar, 784 01:03:59,079 --> 01:04:01,519 as he has long used it to rally public support, demonstrate the country's 785 01:04:01,519 --> 01:04:08,360 military prowess, and rail against the historical injustices he perceives Western nations have heaped 786 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:13,679 upon his nation. The Russian leader has historically led the annual military parade on 787 01:04:13,719 --> 01:04:17,719 Red Square with displays of military hardware, including tanks, missiles, and other 788 01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:24,239 weapons systems, before a wreath lane ceremony at the tomb of the Unknown Soldier 789 01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:29,360 near the Kremlin Wall to honor the memory of those who perished in the battles. 790 01:04:30,079 --> 01:04:32,519 More than ten thousand people and one twenty five units of various types of 791 01:04:32,519 --> 01:04:36,840 weapons and equipment were expected to be displayed at this year's parade, according to 792 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:43,400 Defense Minister Sergey as Shogu. Last year, the ministry announced eleven thousand people 793 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,960 and one hundred thirty one types of weapons were involved in the military parade, 794 01:04:46,119 --> 01:04:55,880 with an air show of seventy seven aircraft and helicopters. But there was just 795 01:04:56,119 --> 01:05:02,320 one ancient World War Two era T thirty four leading the mechanized column today, 796 01:05:02,639 --> 01:05:06,480 as Moscow seemingly toned down its annual parade. Yeah, so a lot of 797 01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:12,360 people notice that just just one one of those tanks this year. I guess 798 01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:20,079 the others are in use or being blown up in Ukraine. Uh. Tiger 799 01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:26,039 M and vpk Ural armored vehicles were also on display, but the main focus 800 01:05:26,119 --> 01:05:30,280 was the country's S four hundred air defense system and its intercontinental ballistic system, 801 01:05:30,639 --> 01:05:36,239 the YARS. So they're also a car? Is there a car called the 802 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:43,639 YARS? I don't know. Uh. The usual flyby above the red square 803 01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:48,079 was canceled, state media reported, without providing an explanation. By the way, 804 01:05:48,159 --> 01:05:51,519 it must have been good weather. Because in a situation like that, 805 01:05:51,599 --> 01:05:59,039 if if a flyby is canceled, um if it if it's bad weather, 806 01:05:59,079 --> 01:06:01,559 they'll they'll blame it on the weather, even if the weather wasn't necessarily bad 807 01:06:01,639 --> 01:06:04,119 enough. But if they don't offer any explanation, then it must have been 808 01:06:04,119 --> 01:06:09,679 good weather. So Putin used the annual Victory Day parade to launch he had 809 01:06:09,679 --> 01:06:14,599 another scathing attack on the West, accusing it of holding Ukraine hostage to its 810 01:06:14,639 --> 01:06:19,199 anti Russian plans. Putin said, quote, A true war has been unleashed 811 01:06:19,239 --> 01:06:27,320 against our motherland. We have repelled international terrorism and to fit we will defend 812 01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:32,119 the residence of Don Boss and secure our own safety. Russia has no unfriendly 813 01:06:32,239 --> 01:06:36,920 nations in the West or in the East. What does that even mean? 814 01:06:40,639 --> 01:06:45,880 Oh, Jenny says, yes, Toyota makes it the Toyota Yaris. Well, 815 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:48,519 I wouldn't buy Yaris if I were you. It's it's named after a 816 01:06:48,639 --> 01:07:01,360 Russian thing. Alex Whiteley says it should include a legendary war tractors as used 817 01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:08,320 by Ukraine soldiers. There you go. Putin also drew comparisons between the conflict 818 01:07:08,320 --> 01:07:12,840 in Ukraine and the fight against Nazi forces in World War Two, saying that 819 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:18,480 civilization is once again at a turning point. Throughout his short address, Putin, 820 01:07:18,519 --> 01:07:21,840 oh he kept a short huh. Maybe his heart just wasn't in it. 821 01:07:24,119 --> 01:07:27,840 Throughout his short address, Putin praised Russian troops fighting in what the Kremlin 822 01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:32,079 calls its special military operation in Ukraine, saying the country is proud of everyone 823 01:07:32,079 --> 01:07:34,719 who fights on the front lines. He said, quote, there is no 824 01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:41,880 more important thing now than your combat work. However, no mention was made 825 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:45,079 of the high casualties suffered by Russian troops, which are estimated to be in 826 01:07:45,159 --> 01:07:50,679 the tens of thousands. Oh, and of course no mention made of the 827 01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:58,480 Wagner group, who the militaries, I'm sorry, the mercenaries rather that was 828 01:07:58,559 --> 01:08:02,840 hired by Putin to fight this war because you know, they only have so 829 01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:10,519 many Russian military because a lot of them are well dead. Um. By 830 01:08:10,559 --> 01:08:14,840 the way, and then the article goes on, it gets into some of 831 01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:20,680 the history of the war, but thus far um, just a side note 832 01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:27,199 to this, by the way, um, Apparently you know, obviously American 833 01:08:27,239 --> 01:08:33,399 intelligence closely monitors the UM the movements of what Russia is doing in terms of 834 01:08:33,399 --> 01:08:40,640 its nuclear capabilities, and um, nothing has changed. Uh this was mentioned 835 01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:44,720 today. I forget where I saw this online. But nothing has changed in 836 01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:46,479 that respect. In other words, you know, because they like to saber 837 01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:54,119 rattle and uh Putin likes to saber rattle and make little threats and and they're 838 01:08:54,199 --> 01:08:57,439 very big on that on Russian state TV. They like to make threats about 839 01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:01,439 nuclear war. But um, nothing is changed about Russia's actual nuclear posture on 840 01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:06,119 the ground in terms of that we know about in terms of the movement and 841 01:09:06,279 --> 01:09:11,920 placement and a strategic placement I should say, of nuclear weapons, which is 842 01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,920 good. That's why we haven't changed our nuclear posture really, So that's good. 843 01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:21,720 That's a good thing. Empty threats, that's good. We wouldn't really 844 01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:25,560 make sense right to go through all this strubble of invading Ukraine just to blow 845 01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:30,199 up the world. I suppose six three two five six three two five six 846 01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,239 seven is a studio line if you would like to join us. Let's see 847 01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:35,880 if we have an update on this. This is happening right now, the 848 01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:41,920 debt limit meeting. I just I'm putting off talking about it because I'd like 849 01:09:42,039 --> 01:09:45,720 to have something to say about how it went. If it ends, I'm 850 01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:49,800 hoping it doesn't end before the show is over, because the longer the meeting 851 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:55,359 goes, maybe that's a good sign that some sort of progress has been made. 852 01:09:55,359 --> 01:09:59,279 Although I'm not holding my breath. And while I try to be an 853 01:09:59,319 --> 01:10:01,840 optimist by nature, if you are a regular listener, you know I have 854 01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:14,079 not been particularly optimistic about this. Let's see, all right, this was 855 01:10:14,159 --> 01:10:17,960 just updated. Oh, okay, I guess it is. I guess the 856 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:25,199 meeting is over. Yep. From Reuter's Biden McCarthy debt ceiling talks rap as 857 01:10:25,279 --> 01:10:29,319 clock ticks to US default. Okay, well, let's dive in. The 858 01:10:29,359 --> 01:10:35,439 meeting's over. Some bullet points, oval office talks, and markets await signs 859 01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:42,640 of progress. Leaders appeared dug in ahead weeks before possible default. Both sides 860 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,640 downplayed chances of a short term deal. So it says here President Joe Biden 861 01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:50,000 and top lawmakers met face to face today as a deadlock over raising the thirty 862 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:54,840 one point four trillion dollars US debt limit threatened to push the country into an 863 01:10:54,920 --> 01:11:00,239 unprecedented default in as soon as three weeks if Congress does not Act. The 864 01:11:00,279 --> 01:11:05,640 Oval Office meeting between Biden in a Democrat, and House of Representative Speaker Kevin 865 01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:12,119 McCarthy, a Republican, ended after just over an hour. Yeah, that's 866 01:11:12,119 --> 01:11:19,199 a quick meeting with no immediate sign of progress made after both sides suggested earlier 867 01:11:19,239 --> 01:11:24,680 they would not agree to concessions to head off a default as early as June. 868 01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:29,319 One quote. We're going to get started and solve all the world's problems, 869 01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:33,359 Biden quipped prior to the meeting, declining to take reporters questions or to 870 01:11:33,399 --> 01:11:39,880 offer his guests an opportunity to speak. Yeah, that's a great quip. 871 01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:46,039 That's real funny. This is serious business. Biden, McCarthy, and other 872 01:11:46,079 --> 01:11:51,000 participants were expected to offer their own version of the meeting later on today. 873 01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:56,479 Their tone and substance are being closely watched for signs of how talks went. 874 01:11:58,039 --> 01:12:01,640 During the meeting, the leaders were grouped long party lines, with McCarthy sitting 875 01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:08,279 silently on one couch with Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell. Top House Democrat Hakeem 876 01:12:08,359 --> 01:12:13,159 Jeffries was joined by fellow Democrats Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer on the opposite couch. 877 01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:16,800 Biden sat in a chair between them. Five senior aids accompanied Biden, 878 01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:26,119 including Chief of Staff Jeff Zience, Budget Director Shalanda Young, and longtime advisor 879 01:12:26,239 --> 01:12:32,039 Steve Ricketti Rischetti. According to the White House, the congressional leaders each brought 880 01:12:32,079 --> 01:12:36,399 a single aid of their own. Economists Warren that a lengthy default could send 881 01:12:36,399 --> 01:12:41,960 the American economy into a d procession with soaring and unemployment, while destabilizing a 882 01:12:42,039 --> 01:12:48,600 global financial system built on US bonds. Investors are bracing for impact. Biden 883 01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:54,359 is calling on lawmakers to raise the federal government's self imposed borrowing limit without conditions. 884 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:59,159 McCarthy has said that his chamber will not approve any deal that doesn't cut 885 01:12:59,159 --> 01:13:01,960 spending to address say growing budget deficit, and signaled that he doesn't see a 886 01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:11,199 short term fix, so there's still dug in on that. Past debt seiling 887 01:13:11,279 --> 01:13:15,079 fights have typically ended with a hastily arranged agreement in the final hours of negotiations, 888 01:13:15,119 --> 01:13:19,600 thus avoiding a default. In twenty eleven, the scramble prompted a historic 889 01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:25,039 downgrade of the country's top notch credit rating. Veterans of that battle warned the 890 01:13:25,039 --> 01:13:29,880 current situation as riskier because political divides have widened yeah, and by the way, 891 01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:34,239 that's part of the reason why I've been pessimistic about this. Not to 892 01:13:34,279 --> 01:13:39,239 be a downer, but I do think we're going to default. I think 893 01:13:39,279 --> 01:13:44,640 that our politics is so broken and so polarized at this point, and both 894 01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:49,840 sides are so dug in. I think either the President invokes the Fourteenth Amendment 895 01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:54,760 for the first time in our country's history and then we'll see what happens. 896 01:13:54,880 --> 01:14:00,239 Then that could trigger a constitutional crisis. But the fourteenth Amendment says, you 897 01:14:00,239 --> 01:14:05,680 know, the country's debts shall not be questioned. There's again it's you know, 898 01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:11,439 the language isn't necessarily clear. So but there are many who argue that 899 01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:15,359 the debt limit itself is unconstitutional because it directly violates the Fourteenth Amendment. But 900 01:14:15,399 --> 01:14:19,600 the Fourteenth Amendment has never been invoked before, so we're in sort of uncharted 901 01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:30,279 territory. But if now, the cuts, as I understand it, the 902 01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:32,920 cuts that the Republicans want in the bill that they did pass, you know, 903 01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:40,880 according to Moody's analytics, hardly a liberal operation. They said that those 904 01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:45,159 cuts are so deep that they would actually do more harm than good in terms 905 01:14:45,199 --> 01:14:48,880 of the economy. On the other hand, you know, so they've kind 906 01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,479 of got a gun to everyone's heads here, right with with that plan. 907 01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:57,199 But if you don't, if you don't give them what they want and they 908 01:14:57,279 --> 01:15:00,560 don't vote to raise the limit, then default would be even worse. I 909 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,680 mean, default is the worst of all options here. And I've said all 910 01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:11,760 along, I believe Biden. Biden is absolutely correct in principle, in principle, 911 01:15:12,199 --> 01:15:15,720 that there should be a bill to a clean bill to raise the debt 912 01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:19,680 limit with no other nothing else attached to it. Just raise the debt limit 913 01:15:20,199 --> 01:15:24,119 and then, uh, you know, you negotiate on the budget separately. 914 01:15:24,399 --> 01:15:30,199 I believe he is one hundred percent correct in that in principle, but in 915 01:15:30,279 --> 01:15:33,760 practice, no, in practice, he's going to have to negotiate something. 916 01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:38,960 He's going to have to. I understand it's a bitter pill to swallow, 917 01:15:39,439 --> 01:15:44,880 but you can't let the country default. So while I think in principle it 918 01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,399 should be uh, you know, it should just like I mean, Trump 919 01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:51,920 had this right, uh you know, when when Trump was president, and 920 01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,720 again, you know, if you're a long time listener, you know, 921 01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,079 I'm not a big fan of the guy, you know, but he got 922 01:15:57,079 --> 01:15:59,720 a few things right along the way, and he was right on the debt 923 01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:03,960 limit during the Trump administration. His position was, we do not use the 924 01:16:04,199 --> 01:16:09,680 debt limit as a bargaining chip. You keep that separate from the budget because 925 01:16:10,079 --> 01:16:14,520 it's too dangerous. It's too risky. And even getting close to default has 926 01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:16,479 caused problems before, like it did in twenty eleven. That was the first 927 01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:19,479 time in our nation's history. You know, Yeah, we didn't default, 928 01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:26,279 but but the country's uh, the federal government's credit rating was downgraded over that 929 01:16:26,319 --> 01:16:30,880 because we came so close. So um and Trump said, no, we 930 01:16:30,920 --> 01:16:33,039 don't negotiate on that. We don't. We don't touch that. Leave that 931 01:16:33,079 --> 01:16:35,960 off the table. You just raise it on schedule. So that's what we 932 01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:39,960 should do. Actually, And by the way, the Democrats, when they 933 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:43,920 had control, they should have taken that opportunity to eliminate the debt limit. 934 01:16:44,079 --> 01:16:46,800 You could just do away with it. Just do away with it, and 935 01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:50,880 then we don't have to do this stance every time. But this is bad. 936 01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:58,680 I do. Look, I'm a I'm not a betting man, I'm 937 01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:01,600 not a gambler. Say, but if I had to, if I had 938 01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:04,760 to put money on it, Honestly, I do think we're going to default 939 01:17:05,239 --> 01:17:11,720 and then it's just a matter of um, uh do we do we damage 940 01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:19,399 the country? Uh uh severely or catastrophically? You know, I mean that 941 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:24,960 that's the thing too. I keep hearing, you know, um you know, 942 01:17:25,319 --> 01:17:29,800 people are still wringing their hands over you know, what does the FED 943 01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:31,960 do about is interest rates? And they're looking at you know, Okay, 944 01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:36,039 we had really good jobs numbers recently, but they're almost too good because if 945 01:17:36,039 --> 01:17:41,720 the job market doesn't start to start to cool off soon, you know, 946 01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:45,199 the Fed's gonna have to raise interest rates again, you know, to try 947 01:17:45,199 --> 01:17:48,039 to tamp down inflation or continue to tamp down inflation and all this. And 948 01:17:48,119 --> 01:17:50,479 at this point, it's like, I don't care. I don't care about 949 01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,880 any of that. I don't I don't care about any of that. The 950 01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:58,239 only thing I care about in terms of economics at this moment is the debt 951 01:17:58,279 --> 01:18:03,840 limit, because nothing else matters if we're going to default. Nothing, none 952 01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:08,239 of this other stuff matters. Inflation and interest rates, the unemployment. I 953 01:18:08,239 --> 01:18:11,680 don't care about any of that because if we're going to default, we're going 954 01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:15,079 to wreck the economy anyway. So to even be talking about interest rates at 955 01:18:15,119 --> 01:18:17,800 this point, who cares? It would be like, if you knew that 956 01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:23,760 an asteroid, I could use the deck chairs on the Titanic. But that's 957 01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:28,479 such an overused cliche. I'll go with something different. Um, say you 958 01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:31,600 knew that an asteroid was going to be hitting the the Earth at the end 959 01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,399 of the week and it was going to kill everybody, an extinction level event, 960 01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:39,239 right, and you know the asteroids coming, and you're sitting in your 961 01:18:39,239 --> 01:18:41,640 living room staring at the walls, going you know, I've been thinking about 962 01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:43,880 painting in here. I wonder if it might be time to brighten up the 963 01:18:43,920 --> 01:18:46,319 room. Who cares as an asteroid coming? That's how I feel about this. 964 01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:49,680 You know, you can you can turn on any number of you know, 965 01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:55,000 you can turn on CNBC or you know, or any number of there's 966 01:18:55,039 --> 01:19:01,079 any number of financial channels on the radio or on television or websites you can 967 01:19:01,119 --> 01:19:05,640 go to, and you know where they're talking about interest rates and inflation and 968 01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:11,359 who cares at this moment, I don't care. We're about we're about to 969 01:19:11,399 --> 01:19:15,039 destroy the American economy anyway, so what does it matter? And we're and 970 01:19:15,119 --> 01:19:18,439 the only reason we're going to do it is because we look and by the 971 01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:23,760 way, and I'm not even gonna take the You know, the easy way 972 01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:26,119 out, of course, is to always just blame the politicians. That's what 973 01:19:26,159 --> 01:19:30,439 everyone does. I blame all of us for tolerating this. We tolerate this. 974 01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:35,359 We we allow ourselves to be sucked into partisan ideology and polarization, and 975 01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:39,920 and that's how we end up in situations like this. And people don't even 976 01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:42,720 know. I mentioned it last week on the show. I saw a pull 977 01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:45,800 the other day. Only twenty five percent of Americans think that the that the 978 01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:49,239 debt limit is a serious issue and are actually concerned about default. And you 979 01:19:49,279 --> 01:19:53,920 know why that is. You know why only twenty five percent of Americans surveyed 980 01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,800 say that because they don't even realize that it's not the same thing as a 981 01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:01,079 government shutdown. Right, we have fights over the budget, and then a 982 01:20:01,119 --> 01:20:04,520 budget doesn't get passed in time, and then there's a government shutdown. And 983 01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:09,199 don't get me wrong, government shutdowns are much worse than the average person even 984 01:20:09,239 --> 01:20:13,279 realizes too. Government shutdowns costs the economy a hell of a lot of money. 985 01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:17,760 Government shutdowns, every time one happens, it actively damages the American economy. 986 01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:23,479 Right, but we always get through it. Everyone knows it's only temporary. 987 01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:26,159 It might be a couple of days, it might be a couple of 988 01:20:26,199 --> 01:20:30,760 weeks, it might be a whole month, whatever, But we always get 989 01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:33,359 through it, right, So people become placent. People don't know. I 990 01:20:33,399 --> 01:20:41,880 honestly don't believe that the average American realizes that the government potentially defaulting. I 991 01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:45,359 don't think the average American knows that that's not the same as a government shutdown 992 01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:49,560 because of a failure to agree on a budget. Default has never happened ever 993 01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:53,239 in the history of the United States. We have never happened. We have 994 01:20:53,319 --> 01:20:58,239 never defaulted. The country has never defaulted on its debt. But we're at 995 01:20:58,279 --> 01:21:01,279 a point now. Everybody, he's so dug in, everybody's so polarized. 996 01:21:02,279 --> 01:21:05,960 Um, you know. I mean, you've got Republicans in the House right 997 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:11,079 now who say they won't vote for raising some of them, uh, you 998 01:21:11,119 --> 01:21:13,479 know, the like the House Freedom Caucus types, they used to be the 999 01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:15,920 Tea partiers. Some of them has said they won't vote to raise the debt 1000 01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:18,640 limit under any circumstances. I actually think we should have fault. I mean, 1001 01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:23,239 that's a small number of them, right, that's not the standard Republican 1002 01:21:23,279 --> 01:21:27,039 position. But they are there the really crazy ones who just don't even understand 1003 01:21:27,119 --> 01:21:30,199 any of this, you know. Uh. And then and then you've got 1004 01:21:30,239 --> 01:21:33,760 on the other side, you've got the Democrats who should have seen this coming. 1005 01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:39,000 One thing we've learned about Democrats is they're not really good at seeing around 1006 01:21:39,039 --> 01:21:42,680 corners. They don't see what's coming. When they were in control, they 1007 01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:46,520 should have seized that opportunity. With even some Republican support, they could have 1008 01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:50,640 done it very probably very little. But Mitch McConnell himself in the past has 1009 01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:55,279 said we should actually get rid of the debt limit. Mitch McConnell has said 1010 01:21:55,319 --> 01:21:58,920 that he's not saying that now. He seems to be on board with McCarthy. 1011 01:21:59,319 --> 01:22:01,840 He seems to be his partner in this, but in terms of their 1012 01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:08,479 position. But in the past McConnell has said that, so they should have 1013 01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:11,640 ended the debt limit when they had an opportunity, but they didn't, And 1014 01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:15,800 now here we are, and there's no excuse for not dealing with this sooner. 1015 01:22:15,119 --> 01:22:20,199 And McCarthy pointed out it's been ninety seven days I think since the last 1016 01:22:20,199 --> 01:22:24,920 time that he and Biden had a meeting about this. That's this should have 1017 01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:27,840 been this should have been dealt with. This should have been handled Now we're 1018 01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:31,680 just a few weeks away and Biden apparently is going to be traveling. He's 1019 01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:34,960 gonna be going to Japan. I think he's gonna be going to Australia. 1020 01:22:35,119 --> 01:22:42,079 That's great, have a nice trip. Meanwhile, you know you're not here 1021 01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:45,560 trying to get something hammered out. So what we just let the United States 1022 01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:49,680 economy fall off a cliff? I guess so, oh well, that's the 1023 01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:55,840 partisan politics that Again, I don't blame them, I blame us we as 1024 01:22:55,840 --> 01:23:00,279 Americans. This is what we buy into partisan ideology. Everybody's got to pick 1025 01:23:00,319 --> 01:23:01,760 a side. You gotta be on one side or the other. And this 1026 01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:04,720 is what we end up with. We end up with two sides that are 1027 01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:11,399 so divided that they're actually going to crash the United States economy. Like it's 1028 01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:14,680 like the end of Thelma and Louise and we're in the car with them and 1029 01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:17,479 we're all going over the cliff together. That's what we get. That's what 1030 01:23:17,520 --> 01:23:26,119 we get. And so this is we're all to blame for this, and 1031 01:23:26,279 --> 01:23:29,479 uh, you know, so, I don't even you know that that last 1032 01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:32,359 Job's report was fantastic. I guess unemployment rates down to three point four percent. 1033 01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:35,359 But then you know the FED is worried. Well, the unemployment rates 1034 01:23:35,359 --> 01:23:39,720 actually too low still, which is gonna there's gonna be more inflation, so 1035 01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:43,279 we might have to raise the interest rate again. Who cares, doesn't matter. 1036 01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:48,119 The asteroid's coming. It's hitting on June first. I don't want to 1037 01:23:48,119 --> 01:23:53,079 talk about Peyton the living room when the asteroids coming on June first. So 1038 01:23:53,279 --> 01:23:59,159 that's that's my position. So what happened today? I guess nothing. I 1039 01:23:59,159 --> 01:24:04,439 guess they all say at around our elected law givers and over lords as I 1040 01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:08,319 like to call them. I guess they all sat around and said, well, 1041 01:24:09,079 --> 01:24:12,079 I guess so, uh we're all just gonna let the asteroid hit, 1042 01:24:12,199 --> 01:24:17,640 right, Yeah, I guess so. Okay, see, Yuh that's great. 1043 01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:24,159 Oh and by the way, for anyone who doesn't realize this, um, 1044 01:24:24,239 --> 01:24:27,760 June first is when we will actually destroy the American economy as we know 1045 01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:32,920 it or around there. But uh we're actually already uh damaging it actively. 1046 01:24:33,199 --> 01:24:38,359 Uh even getting close to default damages the economy. It makes the markets very 1047 01:24:38,399 --> 01:24:43,239 nervous. Uh you know, uh, June is when we'll actually nuke the 1048 01:24:43,279 --> 01:24:48,399 whole thing. Um, but uh, you know, so uh enjoy it 1049 01:24:48,399 --> 01:24:53,279 while we have it. Um. Oh not just uh in America, by 1050 01:24:53,319 --> 01:24:56,720 the way, globally this will destroy the global economy. So it's been a 1051 01:24:56,800 --> 01:25:01,600 nice run. But uh, but we're we actually even just allow allowing it 1052 01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:06,199 to get this far actively damages the economy. Hope everyone realizes that. I'm 1053 01:25:06,199 --> 01:25:10,279 sorry being so negative about this, but it's infuriating to me, Like we're 1054 01:25:10,279 --> 01:25:15,720 going to these people who we elect to represent us. I don't care, 1055 01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:18,079 you know, if you vote, how you vote, what your ideology is. 1056 01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:21,119 Just take a broad view of it for a moment. These are people 1057 01:25:21,159 --> 01:25:26,960 we elect to represent us, and the people that we represent to elect us, 1058 01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:31,399 whose salaries we pay with our tax dollars, are about to destroy our 1059 01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:36,760 economy again. Forget about party, forget about political ideology, forget about partisanship. 1060 01:25:36,920 --> 01:25:42,720 Just think of it as an American citizen. The people that we all 1061 01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:45,560 we vote for, regardless of who you vote for individually, collectively as a 1062 01:25:45,680 --> 01:25:50,479 nation, the people who we put a new office are now going to destroy 1063 01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:57,079 the American economy, something entirely avoidable, but they are going to do it. 1064 01:26:00,159 --> 01:26:03,560 That's that's who we voted for. People who are going to ruin everything. 1065 01:26:06,079 --> 01:26:12,479 I mean, just think about that. Isn't isn't partisanship great? Isn't 1066 01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:16,000 isn't you know? Division and polarization just dandy. This is where we are. 1067 01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:20,279 This is where we have. People say, well, I've never seen 1068 01:26:20,279 --> 01:26:24,600 the I've never seen the country so polarized. Yeah, no kidding, it's 1069 01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:30,800 leading to our economic doom. Congratulations America. Melanie says, Wow, Matt, 1070 01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,479 I bet you're a hit at children's birthday parties. I don't go to 1071 01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:39,960 children's birthday parties, Melanie, I don't children. They they talk to me. 1072 01:26:40,239 --> 01:26:44,920 They I don't know kids. Uh, they freak me out. They're 1073 01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:50,199 they're small, they do weird stuff like uh uh, they're messy eaters sometimes. 1074 01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:59,039 Uh no, thank you anyway, um, just to finish up on 1075 01:26:59,079 --> 01:27:04,039 this Reuter's article, Today's meeting was likely to be closely watched ahead of what's 1076 01:27:04,039 --> 01:27:09,720 expected to be an increasingly fraught period in Washington ahead of June, when the 1077 01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:15,600 US Treasury predicts the country could be forced to default on some debts. Melanie 1078 01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:17,840 says, you're a liar. Kids don't talk to you. No, they 1079 01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:23,560 do because I'm I'm friendly and I'm nice. So kids do talk to me. 1080 01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,600 You know what I don't like, in all seriousness, I don't like 1081 01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:31,000 if I'm in public and someone's child. Like it's one thing like if I 1082 01:27:31,119 --> 01:27:36,119 run into you and I know you, and you and I start interacting, 1083 01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:40,600 and then you introduce me to your kid, and then your kid is interacting 1084 01:27:40,640 --> 01:27:43,359 with me, that's fine. You know what I don't like if I'm out 1085 01:27:43,359 --> 01:27:47,199 somewhere in public and some complete stranger's child starts interacting with me. It's like, 1086 01:27:47,199 --> 01:27:50,680 what are you doing? You don't even know me. Get away? 1087 01:27:53,119 --> 01:27:58,600 Just uh. It repels me. I can't even tell you. It freaks 1088 01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:03,199 me out anyway, So it says here McCarthy, whose party holds only a 1089 01:28:03,199 --> 01:28:06,520 slim majority in the House, wants to tie a vote on the debt ceiling 1090 01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:12,840 to broad spending cuts the White House considers draconian. Biden's meeting with the Speaker 1091 01:28:13,039 --> 01:28:17,880 was their first since February one. Earlier today, McCarthy said the White House 1092 01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:23,399 separately appeared to close the door to a short term solution that's been widely discussed 1093 01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:26,920 on Capitol Hill, lifting the debt ceiling through September to allow more time for 1094 01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:30,600 agreement. By the way, that's a great idea, a short term agreement 1095 01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:34,520 to stave off economic armageddon? Why not? Why wouldn't you do that? 1096 01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:40,680 But apparently no. Biden says no to that before the Oval Office meeting. 1097 01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:44,520 Actually I think they've both said no to that on separate occasions. But before 1098 01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:47,239 the Oval Office meeting, McConnell said Biden should look for middle ground with McCarthy. 1099 01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:50,359 Quote, sit down with the speaker, strike a deal on quote. 1100 01:28:50,359 --> 01:28:56,560 He said on the Senate floor on Tuesday. Oh, it's a good idea. 1101 01:28:56,920 --> 01:29:00,560 Mike Toils on the line, Hello, hey man, how's it going? 1102 01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:04,439 Very good? Thank you? Hey, you want to do a mini 1103 01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:09,239 exercise with me, we'll be on the same team. Maybe we can explain, 1104 01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:13,800 maybe we can figure out this problem. But it's basically a credit card 1105 01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:18,199 or math problem. So so we have when Trump comes into office, the 1106 01:29:18,279 --> 01:29:26,760 debt goes from ten trillion before him to roughly twenty trillion I'm using round numbers. 1107 01:29:26,840 --> 01:29:31,119 Then Biden comes in and as of February twenty February of twenty two, 1108 01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:38,199 each add is the thirty trillion dollar budget. So we give another credit card 1109 01:29:38,199 --> 01:29:41,479 out and now that's on the table. Phil there's three of them, all 1110 01:29:41,479 --> 01:29:46,079 at ten trillion. So now Biden wants a fourth credit card, and on 1111 01:29:46,119 --> 01:29:49,239 that credit card, the people who are given it to him are saying, 1112 01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:55,079 we gotta stop some we gotta slow down subspending, we gotta we just gotta 1113 01:29:55,079 --> 01:29:58,239 figure it out. We just can't keep spending at this rate. We're now 1114 01:29:58,279 --> 01:30:02,279 at thirty trillion. What are we doing? And Biden says, no way. 1115 01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:05,239 You're giving me that credit card and I can spend it on what I 1116 01:30:05,279 --> 01:30:11,760 want to spend it on. That's the analogy, man, that's the way 1117 01:30:11,800 --> 01:30:16,920 I figure it. I was using the statistics. Well, I understand your 1118 01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:21,439 analogy. To me, it's irrelevant though, I'm just I'm just looking at 1119 01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:25,680 it like obviously they have to hammer out some kind of a deal to avoid 1120 01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:29,199 default. I'm not. I'm not worried about the numbers. I'm worried about 1121 01:30:29,279 --> 01:30:33,920 why why aren't they figuring something out here? And uh, I agree, 1122 01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:36,479 you shouldn't be in this We shouldn't be in this problem, like you said, 1123 01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:41,720 right, right, and and of course, well, and like I 1124 01:30:41,760 --> 01:30:45,239 said earlier, I agree with Biden in principle, but in practice, he's 1125 01:30:45,279 --> 01:30:50,279 gonna have to negotiate something. He's gonna have He's gonna have to default is 1126 01:30:50,319 --> 01:30:55,000 the worst possible option, and I think I actually think it's I don't know 1127 01:30:55,039 --> 01:30:58,640 if you're as pessimistic as I am, but I actually think it's going to 1128 01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:01,159 happen. I really do. I think this time. I think we're so 1129 01:31:01,239 --> 01:31:05,680 close to the cliff. I think we're just gonna like Thelma and Louise. 1130 01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:09,439 I think we're just going over. I don't. I mean, he's going 1131 01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:13,600 to be traveling. There's only a few working days left apparently in the House 1132 01:31:13,640 --> 01:31:19,600 and Senate calendar anyway, for this until summer break or whatever. I don't 1133 01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:27,439 know. I'm genuinely pessimistic. Yeah, at boats the question who's who's making 1134 01:31:27,479 --> 01:31:33,159 the decision behind the scenes for Biden as well, He's sitting there making all 1135 01:31:33,199 --> 01:31:38,079 these decisions, although a lot of them runs. He's getting advice from somebody, 1136 01:31:38,159 --> 01:31:41,720 right, He has counselors, you know, people that he sits around 1137 01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:45,079 within pow Wow and should be able to come up with what's best for the 1138 01:31:45,199 --> 01:31:48,760 USA. But that's just not how it works, I don't think. Well, 1139 01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:53,439 apparently from anyway from what I've been reading, there is there is talk 1140 01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:58,359 in the administration about they are taking a close look at the fourteenth Amendment, 1141 01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:00,600 And of course the worry with that is, like I said, that does 1142 01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:04,319 take us in an uncharted territory, and there could be a constitutional crisis with 1143 01:32:04,399 --> 01:32:10,239 that, because if they invoke the fourteenth, that might be a that might 1144 01:32:10,319 --> 01:32:13,600 actually be a good short term fix. But the problem is it's going to 1145 01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:17,680 get challenged in court and then you have a constitutional crisis because the fourteenth Amendment 1146 01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:24,159 doesn't actually you know, it's a little vague, so then you know, 1147 01:32:25,159 --> 01:32:28,279 it says that, uh, you know, our debts shall not be questioned, 1148 01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:31,359 but it doesn't literally say we cannot default. I wish that it did. 1149 01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:36,800 Uh So, uh so that gets us into a scary zone too. 1150 01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:40,560 I mean, if it comes down to we're either going to do that or 1151 01:32:40,640 --> 01:32:44,479 default, then he needs to invoke the fourteenth and then we'll go from there. 1152 01:32:44,880 --> 01:32:48,000 But but no, I think he should. Uh. I think he 1153 01:32:48,039 --> 01:32:53,720 needs to cancel his trips. Uh. I don't want him going to Japan, 1154 01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:57,960 and I don't want him going to Australia until this is resolved and uh 1155 01:32:58,079 --> 01:33:00,159 and they got to hammer something out. I don't at this point. I 1156 01:33:00,239 --> 01:33:03,079 don't care how we got here. I don't care about the numbers. I 1157 01:33:03,199 --> 01:33:08,399 just want a deal, and I want the debt limit raised on schedule. 1158 01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:12,119 Well, actually, I can't even say on schedule. We already technically crashed 1159 01:33:12,119 --> 01:33:15,039 through the debt limit a while ago. They're already they've all the Treasury is 1160 01:33:15,039 --> 01:33:19,520 already resorted to what they call extraordinary measures. It's just that as of June, 1161 01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:24,720 our extraordinary measures will have been exhausted. And then that's it. That's 1162 01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:29,880 it, nothing left in the till it's it's I'm angry. I'm very angry 1163 01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:34,000 that we're in this position. Here's the question I always ponder when when we 1164 01:33:34,079 --> 01:33:41,359 hand off one administration to another, if if something is working that the prior 1165 01:33:41,399 --> 01:33:46,319 administration was doing. Although they're not Republican or Democrat, you know what happens 1166 01:33:46,319 --> 01:33:51,239 to be an opposite party. If something is working, shouldn't be allowed to 1167 01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:56,560 on day one strike it from working, you know what I mean. As 1168 01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:59,079 a whole, the USA should just say no, no, no, we 1169 01:33:59,119 --> 01:34:01,319 want to keep that. We don't want just because you're a Democrat and you 1170 01:34:01,319 --> 01:34:04,960 don't like Trump, you can come in on in day one, stop the 1171 01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:09,680 oil, stop the oil process. You know that. You know what I 1172 01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:14,000 mean. It should be for the betterment of the country and at the worst, 1173 01:34:14,079 --> 01:34:17,920 find some medium ground, but not just say stop, you know what 1174 01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:21,199 I mean. So, I don't know, that's just a thought. I 1175 01:34:21,199 --> 01:34:24,560 don't know why we do that. Why don't we shoot ourselves in the foot. 1176 01:34:25,239 --> 01:34:29,159 You know, if something was working democratically and a republic came in and 1177 01:34:29,199 --> 01:34:31,159 stopped it, ridiculous, Why would you do that? If it's working, 1178 01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:34,600 Clinton had a lot of good financial things, you know what I mean. 1179 01:34:36,319 --> 01:34:41,760 So, I don't know. I always ponder that question. Somehow these these 1180 01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:45,760 politicians have forgot this just representing us, I say it all the time. 1181 01:34:45,399 --> 01:34:49,640 They just they are in their own little cloud. Well because and well, 1182 01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:53,239 like we always talk about on the show, they don't really represent us. 1183 01:34:53,239 --> 01:34:57,239 They represent the donors. They represent the donor class. There's websites that you 1184 01:34:57,239 --> 01:35:00,560 can go to like open secrets dot org where you can look up who who 1185 01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:03,479 contributes to what candidates and you can actually with that website you can figure out 1186 01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:06,560 who they really work for. They don't work for us. If they if 1187 01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:09,960 they worked for us, they wouldn't be about to drive us all over a 1188 01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:15,560 cliff. Yeah, I agree with my friend. Yeah, all right, 1189 01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:17,199 I'll talk to you later. All right, Mike, I appreciate the call. 1190 01:35:17,319 --> 01:35:21,359 Thank you think think positive. I'm trying, dude, I'm trying, 1191 01:35:24,039 --> 01:35:26,479 all right, man, Bye bye, all right. That was our friend 1192 01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:29,079 Mike Doyle, And uh, if you'd like to get in with a quick 1193 01:35:29,119 --> 01:35:32,119 call, although it we'll have to be quick six three two five six seven 1194 01:35:32,399 --> 01:35:39,880 six two five six seven. Alex Whiteley says, can America start and only 1195 01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:44,399 fans to pay the bills? Oh? There you go. Um. Alex 1196 01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:46,680 Whitley also said, uh, you said nothing left in the till. I've 1197 01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:50,840 never heard an American use the word till before. Um. Yeah, I 1198 01:35:51,039 --> 01:35:57,279 uh, really yeah, I've I've heard it here. Um, we use 1199 01:35:57,319 --> 01:36:01,680 the word till occasionally. I guess. I don't know. I don't know. 1200 01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:05,880 It's a scary time and it's very frustrating. This should not be happening. 1201 01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:16,199 Um, I don't know. Do we have time to I'm just gonna 1202 01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:20,119 look up just very very quickly. I'm curious, like I, like I 1203 01:36:20,159 --> 01:36:23,960 was saying to Mike, I know that because I was reading the other day 1204 01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:33,960 about there was apparently conversation within the administration about taking another look at invoking the 1205 01:36:33,960 --> 01:36:45,680 Fourteenth Amendment. Like I said, it's a little murky. Um, wait, 1206 01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:50,640 that's not it. Um. Sorry, guys, let me I use 1207 01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:56,640 guys as the general, non gender specific version. Sorry all of you. 1208 01:36:57,800 --> 01:37:01,119 Um. So, this is what the fourteenth Amendment actually says. The validity 1209 01:37:01,119 --> 01:37:05,640 of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts 1210 01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:12,880 incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppression, insurrection, or 1211 01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:20,960 rebellion, shall not be questioned. M Yeah. See it says basically, 1212 01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:24,600 so it says the public debt. The validity of the debt shall not be 1213 01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:29,159 questioned. I'd love it if it said the debt shall not be defaulted on. 1214 01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:31,199 I wish it was more. But you see what I mean? Why 1215 01:37:35,359 --> 01:37:43,880 why It's it's not clear. I'm trying. I'm looking for something. Okay, 1216 01:37:43,880 --> 01:37:46,319 So three hours ago NBC News posted something. I'm looking for the most 1217 01:37:46,399 --> 01:37:51,920 recent information on this. NBC News posted something on their website. Fourteenth Amendment 1218 01:37:51,960 --> 01:37:58,159 option on the debt ceiling would need to overcome Department of Justice concerns. The 1219 01:37:58,239 --> 01:38:01,199 Office of Legal Counsel advised press in an Obama whether he could raise the government's 1220 01:38:01,199 --> 01:38:06,840 borrowing limit unilaterally, but its opinion has never been made public. This is 1221 01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:11,479 interesting. Gee, I wish we had more time. Just quickly. More 1222 01:38:11,479 --> 01:38:14,600 than a decade ago, when then President Barack Obama was weighing what to do 1223 01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:17,399 as the US near the debt ceiling, a small but critical office within the 1224 01:38:17,840 --> 01:38:23,840 DOJ weighed in with some key legal advice. The Justice Department's Office of Legal 1225 01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:28,960 Counsel, sometimes referred to as the President's Law Firm, quote unquote, advised 1226 01:38:28,960 --> 01:38:32,800 Obama on whether the Fourteenth Amendment gave the president permission a unilaterally raise the borrowing 1227 01:38:32,840 --> 01:38:40,840 limit of the US bypassing the problem, but the office's opinions on the matter 1228 01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:45,399 never became public. That's interesting. The still secret views of an office that 1229 01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:50,439 doles out legal advice to the executive branch may take on new relevance as Biden's 1230 01:38:50,439 --> 01:38:59,079 administration faces another that ceiling showdown. Responding to a FOIA request in twenty eleven 1231 01:38:59,079 --> 01:39:01,760 and again in twenty thirty, OILS declined to make its written opinions on the 1232 01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:08,600 fourteenth Amendment question public. That's interesting. We don't have time to get into 1233 01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:12,880 this any further. We will revisit this tomorrow, though. This is very 1234 01:39:12,920 --> 01:39:18,479 interesting to me. I'm curious. I'm curious why, although it does say 1235 01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:23,760 here too. Ultimately, the Obama administration ruled the Fourteenth Amendment out. You 1236 01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:27,800 know, they were able to strike a last minute deal, it says. 1237 01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:31,520 Former White House spokesman Jim Carney in late twenty twelve said the administration quote does 1238 01:39:31,560 --> 01:39:34,439 not believe that the fourteenth Amendment gives the president the power to ignore the dead 1239 01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:40,760 ceiling period. Un Obama in early twenty thirteen took it off the table. 1240 01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:45,319 Interesting. But why have they never made the opinion public. That's interesting to 1241 01:39:45,359 --> 01:39:53,319 me. I'm curious about that. And declining those Freedom of Information Act requests, 1242 01:39:54,359 --> 01:39:57,640 I'm very curious. All Right, we gotta go. We're out of 1243 01:39:57,680 --> 01:40:00,319 time. Thank you all so much. If you miss any part of today's 1244 01:40:00,359 --> 01:40:04,000 show, it will be up in just a little bit at WMNH radio dot 1245 01:40:04,119 --> 01:40:10,279 org and at my website, Matt Connerton dot com. I think I'm gonna 1246 01:40:10,359 --> 01:40:13,000 leave you with a little bit of h I get this song stuck in my 1247 01:40:13,039 --> 01:40:15,880 head all the time. Oh accept, I can't. Oh wait. Third 1248 01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:20,239 is this song Angel by Infinity Vein. I know my dad really likes this 1249 01:40:20,319 --> 01:40:24,600 one too, So I we'll leave you with this, and uh, if 1250 01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:26,520 you miss any part of today's show, it'll be up in just a little 1251 01:40:26,520 --> 01:40:30,439 bit at WMH radio dot org and at my website Matt Connerton dot com and 1252 01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:34,720 uh oh, and if you're listening live on Tuesday through the Stage Door hosted 1253 01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:39,600 by Rob Dyon is coming up next at six pm, followed by a replay 1254 01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:45,159 of Friday's retro Spectrum Radio with paulc coming up at seven pm. All here 1255 01:40:45,399 --> 01:40:47,600 on WMH ninety five point three FM. All right, I will leave you 1256 01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:50,960 with this a little bit of Infinity vein and that's it for me for now. 1257 01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:53,720 I'll talk to y'all a little bit later. By everybody,