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Welcome. It is Tuesday night,
and you know what that means. It

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is time for Ignition, the AEW
Fan Hub podcast. I am your co

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host, Alex. This is Kelson. Hey, Alex, have a lot

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to talk about tonight, I think, so let's just jump right into it.

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What do you want to talk about? Absolutely? Yeah, I think

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the number one thing that I want
to talk about is the cage match.

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It made a lot of waves.
There was a lot of people talking about

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it. We got responses from all
of the House of Black members on Twitter.

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Yeah, so that's what I think
we should start things off with.

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Sounds good, Okay, So yeah, let's start from the beginning AW collision.

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A week ago we had that Daniel
Garcia versus Buddy Matthews. After that

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match, they announced that there was
going to be an elimination cage match the

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week after. So two days ago
they announced the elimination cage match. Then

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on Dynamite they showed a new graphic
that said it was a Escape the Cage

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elimination cage match. So we know
that AW has only had traditional cage matches,

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and when I say traditional cage matches, I mean inner submission. The

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cage exists to force the guys in
the match to fight each other. Correct,

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that's my understanding. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So WWEE we know

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they've always done escaped the cage matches
or whatever you want to call them,

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But the goal of a cage match
in WWE is to climb the side of

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the cage. They opened the door
for you so you can get out of

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the cage. So I've always been
a big fan of ae W dial cage

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matches, and this is the same
style. That's like going back to the

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territory days. This is what a
cage match has always been before WWE reinvented

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them and made them stupid. In
my opinion, I'm not a fan of

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fair enough escape the cage matches.
Do you have any thoughts on escaping the

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cage versus pin and submission? Well, you know, look, when you

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have a steel cage, to me, the whole purpose of the steel cage

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is is to keep the people in
the match in the match, not running

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around the arena. Of course,
you know, the cage is often used

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as a weapon and that's always fun
to watch too. But yeah, I

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mean, I don't really have a
problem with escaping the cage or pinfall submission

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in the cage. I don't really
have a preference. Well they're fine,

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I think, okay, And with
a multiman cage match like this was,

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it was a three on three cage
match, and then to have it be

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escape the cage rules, now you're
saying that, Okay, the guys need

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to escape the cage to win.
So whatever team escapes the cage first wins.

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But now you're in a situation where
if two guys on one team escape

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the cage, now it's three guys
versus one inside of the cage. So

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until you win the match, it's
like escaping the cage is the last thing

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you want to do. And one
of the things that I said, Alex

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was when what the person escapes the
cage in this case, instead of putting

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your team at a disadvantage, they
should just say okay. For example,

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daxx Hardwood escape the cage. Now
he's allowed to go back into the cage,

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but he can't escape again. He
he's already escaped, but he's there.

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He can actually assist his team because
exactly what you were saying, getting

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two people escaping the cage on one
team now puts that team, even though

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they're you know, winning, I
guess is the best way to put it.

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They escape. They had two teammates
achieved the goal. Now the other

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teammate is an a complete disadvantage,
is going to get mrked. Yeah,

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and they even played into it in
the match they had I think it was

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like Cash and Buddy or escaping the
cage and then Cash was out, his

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feet hit the ground, and then
Buddy Matthews is like, oh, I'm

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going to go back in and give
my team the advantage. It's like it's

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so convoluted and silly, and yeah, the way you explained it, at

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least that makes it make a little
bit more sense your team a lot more

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sense. I mean, I would
say, just don't have this escape the

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cage match rules in the first place. That's just going to be better.

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But at least the way you're proposing
is like an improvement. Yeah. You

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know. The big thing for me, though, Alex, is this,

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when they initially announced this match,
it was you know, was it a

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still cage eliminator match? Yeah?
Right, right then they changed it,

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but at no point that they and
this is something that's kind of ongoing with

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with a W and that and I
could point to the Continental Classic. When

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it initially started, people were not
only confused by the rules, but they

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were also confused by what. Okay, when they somebody wins, what are

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they? Are they Continental Champion champion
or the do Japan Strong open Weight Champion

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or all three? And you don't
be Frankly, I think there still people

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that are more casual fans that still
don't get it. You know, AW

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has to get better at explaining what
the world is going on. They've got

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t TV, they've got three TV
shows, five hours of TV, They've

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got a strong presence on Twitter.
You know, there's no reason why anybody

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could should be confused over a match. That's just my opinion. Mm hmmm.

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Yeah, and so yeah, back
to this match. It was it

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seemingly it seemed like they announced one
thing and then changed it. And I'm

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watching the match and I'm wondering,
why did they change it? Right,

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Like, I'm I'm thinking a couple
of different thoughts. My first thought was,

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like, you have six guys in
this match, and they're in a

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they're in the cage, and it's
they're all like trapped in the ring in

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the ropes because there's no room because
it's a cage. My first thought was,

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maybe they can't fit a ref in
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that's why it had escape the cage. But they have like three or four

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ref refs outside the cage the match, Yeah, because they needed to be

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there, I guess to to you
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So that was my first thought,
and then my second thought was,

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yeah, maybe something along the lines
of does the House of Black or everyone,

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Like I thought, maybe everyone in
the match they don't want to eat

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a bunch of pins, like they
don't want to get pinned, because if

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it's an elimination match, then five
guys are going to get pinned or submitted.

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So that did cross my mind.
Yeah, but then that leads to

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I think David melt Dave Meltzer,
David Meltzer, I just called him,

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but he reported that basically be and
he's a he's a so called journalist,

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and the things that he says you
kind of assume that he as sources or

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he's talked to people at AEW,
but he basically says that, you know,

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House of Black doesn't want to do
the job, and they don't want

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to do the job because they want
to leave and go to WWE. So

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he's saying, Buddy Matthews wants to
go and be with his wife, and

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Malachi Black wants to go and be
with his wife in WWE, And he

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says all these things, and he
makes it sound I feel like he's hearing

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it from sources, right, But
he's just going through the same thought process

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that I'm having when I'm watching the
match. Yeah, well, you know,

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one of the things that came up
was that the House of Black didn't

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want to eat a pin MH and
members of the House of Black came out

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and we were like, are you
absolutely insane? Basically they called him out

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on it. Yeah. Since look, since All In, which was on

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August twenty seventh of twenty twenty three. Since all Buddy Matthews is one and

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two in singles matches and four and
four in all types of matches, Brody

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King is two and three in singles
matches and four and six in other types

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of matches. Malachi Black has not
had any singles matches and has FOIGN three

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overall since since then, So you're
looking at basically all with not Basically,

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it's absolutely the House of Black as
a team has a losing record since all

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in. Yeah, of course Julia
Hart's in the House of Black and she

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was part of this match. But
you know, look, if you ask

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Julia Hart's eleven and three overall since
all in and ten and one in singles.

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By the way, look, I
think people are reading misreading this completely.

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Malachi Black is a very creative driven
wrestler. He's creative, Okay,

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the way I look at it and
what I want to believe Now, I

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have no sources, so I'm just
saying this off the cuff. Malchi Black

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looked at this match and said,
what is the main purpose of this match

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is to probably it's probably to get
Daniel Garcia over. How can we get

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Daniel Garcia over? Three ways?
One, we have him somebody beat the

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hell out of him before the match, that he's laying in a pool of

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his own blood, you know,
an hour before the match, and he's

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if he about coming out. Two, we have Julia Hart spit the black

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mist into his face, putting him
in even more of a disadvantage. He's

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already injured, he's bleeding, he's
got his head wrapped, and now he's

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got black crap all over his face
and in his eyes, right, and

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three you have him still persevere and
who does he beat Basically didn't pin him,

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but nobody got pinned in the match, but he beat him outside of

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the ring. He escaped the ring
first, he beat ultimately Malachi Black.

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So how in the hell are you
gonna say that Malachi Black and Brody King

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and Buddy Matthews are refusing to job
to anybody when the job just fine to

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everybody. They did it in such
a way that it furthered the story more

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you look at it. Now,
look at Daniel Garcia. Not only is

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the hero because it was a huge
celebration after the match, right, but

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also you got to think, okay, well now he's been spit in the

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eye, in the face the Black
Mist. Is this going to affect him

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in any way? Yeah? And
yeah, and okay. To agree with

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your point, I think House of
Black loses too much. If anything,

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they're they're the best stable or one
of the best stables in ae W.

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They're like a main event stable on
Collision there. They need to be booked

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strong. And Malachi Black's the leader, like you don't want him taking pins,

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Like if anyone's choosing for Malachi Black
not to lose, it would make

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sense for it to be Tony Kahan
if anyone. And yeah, and to

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your other point, I I can't
wait to see what they do with Daniel

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Garcia, because yeah, you're gonna
hint at joining House of Black? Are

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we gonna get like the dark evil
dancing Daniel Garcia, the evil dancing Daniel

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Garcia because he can't stop dancing.
It's it's the same dance. But now

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he just told Machetes, Yeah it's
Britney Spears spot style. Oh my god.

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Yeah. But look all the crap
that Malachi Black, Buddy Matthews and

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Brody King got before, even before
this match and after this match is preposterous.

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It's it was uncalled for. Look
at what they did in this match.

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They got the crap beat out of
them, and they put on a

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good match. Why are people taking
away from this match? This match should

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have been about ultimately, it should
have been about Daniel Garcia, persevering,

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we shouldn't be talking about the House
of Black at all. No, And

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this match, despite all the things
I said about the rules and how goofy

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they were, it was a great
match for what it was. And I

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love the ending. Yeah, and
they put on a great cage match despite

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the fact that, yeah, the
rules made no sense. Yeah. And

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so another thing that came out with
all this stuff that was the health of

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Black is that Buddy Matthews and Malachi
Black maybe leaving a w wend their contracts

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over. Yeah. Well you know, well look, so let's talk about

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that. Sure, Buddy Matthews's wife, our girlfriend of Freance. I think

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they are engaged now. Ray Ripley
is in ww's Alita Vega is married to

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Malachi Black. She's in WWE.
It makes perfect sense for Malachi Black and

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Buddy Matthews to go to WWE.
However, one thing I've learned from being

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a fan of Malachi Black is that
from time to time he gets on a

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live video like a live Instagram video, and he starts talking with by saying,

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I can't believe I have to do
this all over again. I for

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example, when he was absent for
a late period of time, he said,

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I am in I am taking some
time off. I am still in

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AW and I will be back.
I guess what. He took some time

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off he was still in AAW because
he came back, you know, and

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he basically says that I'm paraphrasing him
here saying if you don't hear it from

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me, don't believe it. So, look, is there a possibility to

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Malachi Black is going to leave AW
when his contract is up and go to

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WWE. Sure, sure, anything
is possible, But until Malachi Black says

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it, it's a non issue.
Yeah. And the reports are his contracts

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up in twenty twenty seven. That
gives us three years before any free agency

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rumors, before he shows up at
the twenty twenty eight Royal Rumble or twenty

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twenty seven whatever. Yeah, and
a lot can change in WWE. I

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mean, the Triple H may not
be there, there might be no supporters,

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his wife may not be even employed
there. In three years, A

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lot, a lot can change.
So, well, look what's happened just

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recently between AW and WWE. There's
j Cargill just made her debut in the

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ring debut at the Royal Rumble,
Andradi Lede Loge just showed up at the

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Royal Rubble. DM Punk just showed
up there. You know. So there's

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free agents that are going there from
AW and other places now, you know.

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So, and all those people are
taking top spots in WWE. Yeah,

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but then you also have to look
at aw look who's coming a w

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recently. Of course, we've got
Adam Copland. That was you know at

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h Russell Dream. We got Deanna
Well, we got Mariah May in early

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November. It doesn't it's hard to
believe it. It's been two months,

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over two months already for that.
Uh. We got Dianna Parazzo. Yeah,

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there's you know, strong speculation that
Mercedes Monett is coming. We've got

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returns out the wazoo coming. I
mean, you've got Britt Baker and Jamie

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Hayter who seemed to be close to
coming back. I mean, it just

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makes sense they've be gone so long, just come back. Thunder Rosa just

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came back. You have Tamello that
may be coming back. You know,

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she she had her baby. You
know, we don't know the time frame

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for that, but you know,
and I'm sure that Tony Kahn is the

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type of person that's not going to
rush her to come back. But seems

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to me from what Tamla is saying, that she's itching to come back.

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We just had Serena deeb come back. All right, then you've got like

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Megan will I'm just staying with the
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a women's division. You have Megan
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graduated from t J p W.
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don't really think that Julia is going
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with all the stuff that's going on
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a little bit less uh attractive to
a woman wrestler to go to w W

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right now. Specifically, you've got
Camille as well, who was backstage recently

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at an aw show. You know
she's got a look. Yeah, so

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there's all that. Then when you
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As far as the men go,
Okata is a very strong possibility coming

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to AW. So here's the thing, And this is what I want to

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ask you, Alex is like,
Okay, so I just named off a

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bunch of women, because let's face
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little bit stronger and fluid right now. The men's free agency another man,

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by the way that I can mention, that seems to be heading toward free

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agency. Soon if the accounts are
correct. Is Drew McIntyre. Yeah,

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possibly Sammy Zaine. So but here's
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like the free agency free agent market
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strong than the men's market. Uh. But the thing is, oh,

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in another person, Jack Perry.
I wanted to bring on Jack. We

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don't know what's going on with Jack
Perry? You know, is he still

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aw? Is this you know?
What's going on there? So I think

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we'll get that answer pretty soon.
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the women's free agency seems to be
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agency right now as far as that
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brings in some of these people like
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uh and then of course we got
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Sammis Ain and Drew McIntyre and Okata. Okay, do we have to make

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room for some you know, it
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man. We got to get you
know, we've got to make room for

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these people. Yeah, well,
we are going to be losing thing.

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We're going to be losing Brian Danielson
sometime in the next I probably like all

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In would be his last match for
Danielson. He still says that Daniel said

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just say in an interview that he
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a year. That's that's a lot. That's it is a lot. You

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know, that's like every AEW pay
per view basically exactly, Yeah, why

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not, but he's not. He
said something. I believe he said something

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like five ten times a year,
So but go ahead, I'm sorry,

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I didn't mean yeah, no worries. Yeah, I hope he sticks around

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and and is maybe in that you
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yeah, the other person like will
Ospray, I know we mentioned him,

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but he comes in and he's he
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world and he can cut a good
promo. Like bringing him in is going

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to be a real game changer.
It'll be interesting to see how they handle

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that. Obviously if they bring in
as well, there's so many dream matches

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and like pay per view main events
you can do with that's like just those

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two they slid in immediately to like
the top of the card. Yeah.

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is that, look, if you look

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at the aw roster, you have
guys like Daniel Cinapore and next thing who

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you mentioned, You got people like
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that, Chris Jericho even that are
getting up there in age. Yeah,

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and you know, not saying that
they can't perform, because they certainly can.

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age myself, I can tell you

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that I can't do what I used
to do be able to do, and

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even if I can do it,
it hurts a heck of a lot more

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when now you know what I mean. It's just it's just, I mean,

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you're more susceptible to injury. Let's
face the facts. It's part of

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the human condition. And I have
all the respect of the world for these

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guys for being able to go out
there without killing themselves every week. Yeah,

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and I think once you're up there
in age, and I think Dustin's

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there and Jericho is definitely quickly approaching
there, you don't really want to see

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those guys beating younger talent. You
know, you're not fantasizing about them winning

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world titles. I think it would
be cool for Dustin because he's never really

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climb that mountain to maybe see him
get one run with the title at some

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point. But like Jericho, I
think fan interest is waning, and you

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do want to see him. I'd
love to see him on TV and in

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some kind of program, but you
don't want to see him beating Kyle Fletcher

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on Dynamite next week or winning titles. You know, he's kind of he's

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kind of past that point where you
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done very well, and I have

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to give him credit for this,
is that Jericho's one of those older wrestlers

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that works hard to put people over, not only by giving them good matches,

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but actually getting them wins. Look
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against younger wrestlers like Action Andretti,
where the opponents are better to Jericho because

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he makes them look better. He
makes them look good. Kenny Omega does

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the same thing, does the same
thing, and you know, as much

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as I don't really want to talk
about him, Ciampunk actually did very well

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in that regard to putting over to
younger wrestlers. But the thing with aw

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is like I said, with the
free agency and whatnot, is that yes,

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we are gouda. AW is gonna
lose some wrestlers, both on the

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men's division and the women's division because
they're good. Okay. For example,

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everybody's been talking about Ricky Stark's poss
moving to WWE. That's well and fine,

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you know, but I guess what
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smart for example, what they did, what they're doing with Daniel Garcia,

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because let's face it, we need
is AW fan somebody to root for and

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or somebody to root against, and
not just the same people. We can't

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rest on our laurels. Look at
it this way. Kenny Omega is out

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indefinitely. MJF. We don't know
when he's coming back. Adam Cole,

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we don't know when he's coming back. You know, these are guys that

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are integral to aw's success and they're
not able to wrestle right now. So

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these young kids and the guys that
have been toiling in the indies and never

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got a chance, this is their
opportunity and they've got to take it.

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But it's not up to them.
It's also up to Tony kNN to book

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them to take that opportunity and giving
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Yeah, yeah, absolutely, And
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mentioned Daniel Garcia, and he's he's
just hit you know, another level because

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he's now like the full package,
right, Like he's on the cusp of

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being I could see him being a
main event guy or at least being there

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in like a TNT title picture winner
champion. So I think they've done a

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good job with some of these homegrown
talent. And I think Chris Jericho,

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especially for Daniel Garcia, like he
he owes, he could get a lot

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of credit for that because he gave
him that sports entertainer aspect and I thought

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that was a good fit, even
though people probably didn't like it at the

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time and probably preferred seeing him with
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it just kind of rounded him out
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is a lot of free agents and
there's going to be people going back and

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forth between aw and WWE, and
that's good. That's good for wrestling because

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you want to see fresh faces in
both companies for both fans, and I

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think we're seeing Tony early on he
was picking up every free agent, like

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he brought in Miro and Andraday and
so on and so on, and anyone

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that left WWE, he was ready
to pick him up. But we've seen

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him not pick up Dolf Zigler now
Nick Nemeth, and we've seen him not

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pick up Mustafa Ali. So both
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both, so we've seen him not
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instead for will Osprey and possibly Okata
Mercedes Monet. So it's almost like he's

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focusing more on main event talent,
like maybe putting his money, bundling it

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together and giving it two bigger names, and maybe that's more of his focus.

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And I think that makes a lot
of sense to me. Oh,

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you know what also makes sense to
me is you know you're getting wrestlers in

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And again I don't mean this disrespectful. I'm just using this as an example.

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You know, you're trying to build
a company that's gonna have momentum through

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the next decade. It doesn't make
sense to get guys in their fifties,

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m you know, because by the
time you build that momentum, they're too

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old to perform realistically, you know. So hey, you know, it's

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a it's a very weird situation.
But the one thing I will say,

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you know, and I think that
you will probably agree with me, is

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that when it comes to free agency
and signing free agents and booking, I've

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never done it before. I don't
have the money, I don't have a

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company to do that. So hey, it's easy for me to sit back

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in my little reclining chair here and
spew at the mouth, But that doesn't

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mean I know what the hell I'm
talking about. Yeah, it is wild.

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A lot of people seem to think
they'd be so great at it,

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and it's a job that you're not
going to be able to get a lot

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of on the job training, considering
like, you know, five people have

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done it successfully in like the history
of the last thirty years or something.

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True. True. Yeah, well, anyway, let's move on. Is

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there anything else you want to mention
about? Collision, Alex. I think

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the only other thing that jumps to
my mind is Serenade. We saw her

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return put on a pretty short match, but I thought it was pretty fun

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and just seeing her, you know, she's like that technical wrestler who is

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technical in a mean way. She
doesn't like take a break and pose after

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doing a bunch of technical things.
She's just trying to hurt people. And

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then I thought she cut like her
best promo ever at the end of that

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match. I remember back maybe a
year or maybe multiple years ago, where

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she cut some promo and she was
like, said something about your your favorite

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sports team or the sports team here. She didn't even mention the sports team's

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name, and it was just one
of the worst promos I had heard on

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TV. And I thought she gave
a really good promo this week. And

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I was happy to hear that she
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I think. And yeah, that
match short was short, but you

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know, we talk a lot about
rig Rust and Rustler's coming back needed to

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be protected having rig Ross and they
should be in a tag team match.

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Sube deeb looked like she was ready
to go after Tony Storm right then,

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write then, you know, simply
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second thing I want to bring up
on this match, you know, and

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I and I actually posted this on
Twitter x is I I wanted to give

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a little bit of credit to Robin
Renegade, who was very fluid, very

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light on her feet and was just
there. I mean, she nailed it.

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Yes it was a short match,
but everything she did she did right.

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You know. I give Robert Rennegade
a lot of credit and patting myself

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on the back a little bit,
you know, it kind of made me

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feel good when I made that Twitter
post. Robin Renegade's father actually liked the

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post, and so Robin Renegade herself, so it was your Twitter post basically,

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it was on Twitter. I basically
said, you know, hey,

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it was great to see Sarita d
D back. She is back, you

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know, thank goodness. And I
also want to give a special shout out

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to Robin Renegade for really doing really
well, you know, and that was

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cool. Your dad's name Renegade,
No Papa Renegade. Papa Renegade is his

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Twitter bio is like, I'm the
father of two women, two female wrestlers,

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at a rock star at a at
a you know whatever. I think

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his son. I think he said
my son is a rock star, so

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whatever. Maybe maybe he is,
maybe he isn't. I don't know.

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But anyway, that was that he'd
liked my post and a couple hours later,

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Robin Renegade did I just thought it
was interesting. You know, it's

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I like, I like when you
say something positive about a wrestler instead of

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being so damn critical all the time
needlessly. Look, it's you know,

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from the short time that you've been
doing these podcasts with us, is you

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know that what I'm critical, I'm
gonna be critical, but damn it,

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if something's good, I'm gonna say
it was good. And that match was

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good even though it was pre you
know, predestined that there was no way

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that's there to do, was gonna
lose that match. I'm Renegade put on

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a fine match. Yeah. Yeah, she's good and I hope to see

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more of them, the Renegade sisters
in aw proper and I'm sure you know

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a year from now where a year
and a half, we'll start to see

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them more. Yeah. So gosh, let's move on to let's just talk

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briefly about well, we don't have
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about Dynamite because it's not for you. This this card is as I said,

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I'm not afraid to critique anything.
I haven't watched the matches yet on

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paper, however, this card is
awful. There's nothing in this card that

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and it is confusing because we're Strickland
and Adam Page could pick anybody they wanted

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to to fight. These guys fight
the other in this Dealer's choice batch,

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and I'm like, okay, well, neither of these are gonna strike care

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in anybody. And then these other
matches are I mean, they're fine.

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That's all I'll say is are fine. There's nothing wrong about them, There's

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nothing special about them. There's no
main event matches in this in this card

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name either what's your main event?
Nobody can I'm looking. I think the

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main event would be Rob van Dam
versus Swear Strickland boiler alert, because you

405
00:35:02.000 --> 00:35:06.440
know, Robert Dam has not been
announced yet, but I think everybody and

406
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:12.800
their mother knows it's going to be
Rob Adnam announced. No, but like

407
00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:21.519
just hints being dropped that are just
stupid. For example, uh, because

408
00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:24.320
I guess they're trying to be cute. What was the one? Let me

409
00:35:24.360 --> 00:35:28.360
think I got to look it up
now, but there was one hint that

410
00:35:28.519 --> 00:35:36.760
was posted by on the aw official
Twitter page, you know, and it's

411
00:35:36.840 --> 00:35:43.119
and it says it's high time hangman
Man. It's it's high time for hangman

412
00:35:43.159 --> 00:35:49.599
Adam Page to pick an opponent for
tomorrow's aw Dynamite. When the smoke clears,

413
00:35:50.039 --> 00:35:55.000
who will and then in all caps, who will walk down the ramp

414
00:35:55.079 --> 00:36:01.119
to face where strickly Well, look, yeah, you know, you know,

415
00:36:01.480 --> 00:36:06.679
hit hit, nudge, nudge,
you know it's it's it's Rob van

416
00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:13.840
Dam unless look unless it's a unless
it's a you know, part of the

417
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:19.559
pun a swerve that they're trying to
get over on people. But this would

418
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:22.039
be a pretty dumb swerve when you
have all these opportunities, for all these

419
00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:24.920
swerves they could have done and they
didn't do, this is the one they're

420
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:32.719
gonna choose to actually pull off.
Yeah, it's a strange match. Rob

421
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:37.760
van Dam obviously well passed his prime, but he can still go. He

422
00:36:37.760 --> 00:36:42.840
can still do the things he used
to do, maybe a little bit slower.

423
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:50.800
And I am I love that Tony
paid for Pantera Walk and and he

424
00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:53.280
better keep paying for it every time
Rob van Dam comes out. But like

425
00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:58.599
when you go and watch old w
W E footage of Rob van Dam,

426
00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:01.599
or because they bought the easy D
library, like they cut that music out

427
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:07.719
because ECW didn't pay the rights for
it, so to have that come back,

428
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:12.079
I mean, that's just such a
treat for me, as like a

429
00:37:12.159 --> 00:37:17.800
Rob van Damn ECW fan from back
in the day. So I'm happy just

430
00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:22.079
because of that weird match. I
mean, yeah, you're a hangman out

431
00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:27.199
of a page. Yeah, but
let me ask you this. The purpose

432
00:37:27.239 --> 00:37:31.920
of this match is to basically beat
the other guy down right, Yeah,

433
00:37:31.840 --> 00:37:39.280
h would Rob van dam be your
fifth choice, sixth choice, fifteenth choice

434
00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:44.719
for that. I'm not putting Rob
van Damn down here, but I'm telling

435
00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:47.239
you, man, if it was
me, if I was hangman at a

436
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:52.440
page in a real world situation,
who would I want to get into into

437
00:37:52.440 --> 00:38:00.960
the ring? What's worst? Rickland
Wardlow? Yeah, I guess it has

438
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:07.000
to be someone that's good. I
mean, I guess Keith Lee's getting surgery,

439
00:38:07.159 --> 00:38:13.199
so he's not an option. Yeah, or put somebody in there.

440
00:38:13.480 --> 00:38:19.400
No, I would pick someone maybe
under the age of forty, somebody that

441
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:25.199
can act like an assassin, somebody
that's known for Yeah. Remember when they

442
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:30.400
remember when they brought in I think
like Jeff Cobb and maybe he was NJF.

443
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:34.119
But yeah, they brought in Jeff
Cobb and he was like the bounty

444
00:38:34.159 --> 00:38:37.280
hunter. Yeah, like someone like
that. You can go pick someone out

445
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:45.599
of New Japan or like freaking who's
that guy that was had some matches dirty?

446
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:52.079
He's like an m M A guy. Yeah, yeah, I can't

447
00:38:52.119 --> 00:38:58.239
think, I know, I know
you're talking about Yeah, filthy, filthy,

448
00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:04.079
filthy Tom Lawler. Yeah, a
cool guy to bring to lawn,

449
00:39:04.159 --> 00:39:07.039
Yeah, filthy Tom Lawler. Okay, I didn't know if it was filthy.

450
00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:12.000
Yeah yeah, filthy, Yeah,
like him, like someone that's you

451
00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:15.000
know, an MMA guy, a
killer, or just someone that's young and

452
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:20.559
known for just somebody. You're not
going in there to win a match.

453
00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:23.559
Rob van Dam would be going in
there to win a match, right,

454
00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:28.360
yeah, hayvan Adam Page should not
want Rob van Dam to go in there

455
00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:31.559
to win a match. Adam Page
should be wanting Rob van Dam to go

456
00:39:31.639 --> 00:39:37.880
in there to beat the snot out
of Swearstrickland, whether he want it or

457
00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:40.800
not. And that's what you get
somebody like fifthly filthy Tom Lawler or Ward

458
00:39:40.800 --> 00:39:45.239
Low or somebody of that elk to
do, you know, not Rob van

459
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:51.360
Dam and then you go on the
other side sphere Strickland picked his uh one

460
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:54.880
of his Mogul embassy members, which
is great even though you know it's kind

461
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:59.519
of weird because I could never say
his name because I always get a mistaken

462
00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:04.840
with David Company's wife Taolione. So
I'm just gonna call him TAOLIONI because I

463
00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:07.199
will not get it right if I
tried to say the right arm. So

464
00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:15.079
Tayoleoni against Adam Paige may mean,
Yeah, that's kind of what I'm talking

465
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:17.719
about. Yeah, Yeah, that's
a cool match. And I don't think

466
00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:21.519
he's had a singles match. He
hasn't, right, he hasn't had a

467
00:40:21.559 --> 00:40:28.480
singles match, And I think it's
cool that he's getting some time to have

468
00:40:28.559 --> 00:40:34.159
a match against the great wrestler and
he's probably gonna look amazing. Yeah,

469
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:37.760
I'm excited for that match. I
mean, obviously, hangman, Adam Paige

470
00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:42.920
is gonna win, But yeah,
that makes a lot more sense than Rob

471
00:40:43.039 --> 00:40:45.760
van Dam for sure. See even
if Adam Paige. Look, we know

472
00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:51.239
that Adam Page is gonna win,
But is Adam Page going to get the

473
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.719
snot beat out of him as he
wins? Yes, guarantee, yes,

474
00:40:54.960 --> 00:40:59.440
yes, Rob dan Dam is not
going to beat the snot out of Square

475
00:40:59.440 --> 00:41:02.320
Strickland. Even if he even if
he wins the match, he's not going

476
00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:07.039
to beat the snot out of Stricklin. See what I'm saying. That's just

477
00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:13.400
that's just it. So then what
else? What other match? Ah?

478
00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:20.639
Well, okay, let's just start
Jeff Hardy versus John Moxley. That's probably

479
00:41:20.679 --> 00:41:24.800
the one that's got me scratching my
head the most. Okay, why why

480
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:29.320
are you scratching your head on that
one? Because it's just a weird fit.

481
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:34.280
Uh, you know, I guess
they're both kind of baby faces.

482
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:39.719
I guess John Moxley is trying to
challenge veterans at this point, it's not

483
00:41:39.800 --> 00:41:45.559
really clear. Maybe we get a
Jeff Hardy heel turn, and he's had

484
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:50.679
some great his last two matches against
Swerve last week and Darby at Rampage.

485
00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:57.280
We're both like fantastic Jeff Hardy matches. So but that, But John Moxley

486
00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:02.199
and his style don't really sink up
the me So it is weird. Bill

487
00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:08.760
probably be a better match than I'm
expecting. Bold prediction time. Boxley isn't

488
00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:14.519
gonna bleed in this match either,
Yeah, unless he hits his head on

489
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:17.000
the you know, on the stage
walking out of the tunnel, you know

490
00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:21.320
whatever. Do you think he's not
going to bleed? No, he's not

491
00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:23.440
gonna bleed. You know how longest
bets it's Boxley's blood in a match.

492
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:29.679
Holy cow, he's probably got more
blood in his body today that he's had

493
00:42:29.719 --> 00:42:36.559
in the last fifteen years, maybe
saving up to donate blood. I don't

494
00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:39.880
know if he's gonna donate blood at
the Revolution, there's gonna be that's gonna

495
00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:45.159
be gonna be a blood bath because
he's got a lot of storage. Mm

496
00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:49.400
hmm. Yeah. Wondering what direction
they're going. It seems like a revolution.

497
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:52.920
If I had to guess, he's
going to have just one of those

498
00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:59.440
random dream matches, maybe somebody out
of New Japan or something like that.

499
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:06.480
I really do not. I think
I think they got to stop doing that.

500
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:10.079
They really do. I'm sorry.
Uh, don't get me wrong.

501
00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:15.199
When you get somebody from like will
Will Osprey comes over from New Japan,

502
00:43:15.760 --> 00:43:17.360
great, But when you have a
fifty five year old come in to wrestle

503
00:43:17.480 --> 00:43:22.039
Brian Danielson, I am not gonna
lie to you. When the Brian Danielson

504
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:27.519
and the Gotta match was going on, I just I was like, oh

505
00:43:27.639 --> 00:43:32.920
god, you know, this is
just this is just boring. It was

506
00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:38.000
a boor It was it good,
yes, but it was good in a

507
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:45.599
boring way. I'm the kind of
guy that wants to watch you know,

508
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:55.000
mission impossible, and what I got
was Dalton Abbey. You know, it

509
00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:59.280
doesn't mean the Dalton Abbey is not
a good show. It's just not my

510
00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:06.119
style. And I honestly, the
match was over and I noticed that the

511
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:08.920
match was over, and I in
our chat, I was like, oh

512
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:14.760
who won? I totally just zoned
out. Yeah, it was so boring.

513
00:44:14.800 --> 00:44:17.679
I just like my eyes rolled up
into the back of my head and

514
00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:22.800
that was it. I was done. I honestly, god did not know

515
00:44:22.440 --> 00:44:25.719
who won that match, because you
know, it has I mean, I

516
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:30.079
know Brian. I know Brian Danielson
won it, because of course he did.

517
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:36.119
But yeah, I can't really picture
the ending, actually I can.

518
00:44:37.239 --> 00:44:40.360
I actually enjoyed the match more than
I thought, but yeah, it's not

519
00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:46.000
it's not I actually actually I actually
went on YouTube to pay my respects and

520
00:44:46.159 --> 00:44:52.119
try to watch the match the next
day, like the next afternoon, Sunday

521
00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:57.639
afternoon, like just before football playoffs
started. NFL playoffs started. You No,

522
00:44:57.920 --> 00:45:00.679
my eyes rolled right back into the
back of my head again. I

523
00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:04.679
was like, no, this is
just not That's actually what Eugi Nagata is

524
00:45:04.719 --> 00:45:08.480
known for for putting on his like
Fuji war arm bar and then rolling his

525
00:45:08.599 --> 00:45:14.840
head his eyes in the back of
his head, because yeah, look,

526
00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:17.800
I have nothing against the new japan
guys coming over. But look, when

527
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:27.199
you have Murder Grandpa come out and
fight Adam Copeland, and then the next

528
00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:30.039
week, like that same week,
you have somebody who's older than Murder Grandpa

529
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:35.199
come out, you know, like
Murder great Grandpa come out and fight.

530
00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:40.719
Brian Daniels said it totally. Look
they are I get the purpose of it.

531
00:45:40.800 --> 00:45:45.559
They are good matches, They're like
dream matches that probably Danielson was just

532
00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:49.199
thrilled to death, and I'm happy
for him. Then he got to wrestle

533
00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:52.719
it, and I bet you Copeland
was thrilled to death too, and having

534
00:45:52.760 --> 00:46:01.119
wrestled uh Suzuki. But ultimately those
matches were completely meaningless. When you have

535
00:46:01.800 --> 00:46:09.280
a stacked locker room waiting to have
meaningful matches, don't put on meaningless matches.

536
00:46:10.559 --> 00:46:15.280
Stop. My biggest wish, and
I'm just being honest with you here.

537
00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:21.400
My biggest wish is that w W
strikes a deal with New Japan,

538
00:46:21.519 --> 00:46:27.239
and Forbidden Door is over. Wow, wain and simple. I did not

539
00:46:27.360 --> 00:46:32.239
watch Forbidden Door the first I was
there. I was not watch Forbidden Door

540
00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:36.679
the first one. I did not
watch for Forbidden Door. The second one

541
00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:42.719
I completely expressed my disinterest in because
I look at Forbidden Doors great matches,

542
00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:51.920
great matches, meaningless matches and total
momentum killers for aw So yeah, I

543
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.119
see what you mean. Like they
definitely do have to put all their stories

544
00:46:55.199 --> 00:47:02.360
on halt basically for meaningless match.
I like, I mean, I'm somebody

545
00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:07.519
that I love being introduced to new
people, but I don't. I don't

546
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:14.280
care about being introduced to Eugene Nagata
or Minoro Szuki even like those guys are

547
00:47:15.000 --> 00:47:19.639
their best days are so far behind
them. Yeah, like I'm going to

548
00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:22.440
get excited about following their careers.
No, like their careers are over.

549
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:29.199
They're Yeah, I mean a ton
of Hashi Holy cow, Yeah he's I

550
00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:37.519
mean, I mean we were like
nostalgia. Like the guy him being able

551
00:47:37.519 --> 00:47:44.239
to walk from the tunnel to the
ring is a win for him without you

552
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:49.119
know, he's his knees are completely
shot mm hmm. You know, and

553
00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:52.880
it's just I'm just sorry. I
mean Formidden Door is, they're great matches.

554
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:57.360
I did go back and watch some
of them, like the highlights of

555
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:00.719
them, but there is no way
I'm gonna for a meaningless show. It

556
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:07.760
really is meaningly, but there's versus
Omega. I mean, I could just

557
00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:12.719
watch those guys wrestle every single day
in my life. The Forbidden Doors show

558
00:48:12.800 --> 00:48:16.239
they had there was like a woman's
match at the show, and of course

559
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:22.360
it was aw woman against a w
woman. That was only like that was

560
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:28.360
a meaningful match. And I'm not
saying but there's a there's a far difference

561
00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:37.039
than Will Osprey now and Tanahashi now. Yeah, I mean yeah, I

562
00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:43.679
mean it is prime. Tanahashi could
have probably been one of the could have

563
00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:49.719
been just as good as the Osprey
match. Mm hmm. Yeah. Anymore,

564
00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:53.119
I don't want to see sixty year
old, you know, wrestlers out

565
00:48:53.159 --> 00:48:59.679
of pay per view. Yeah,
I'm sorry, Like I I watched maybe

566
00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:02.800
the last like there's I'm gonna There's
a lot of great wrestlers in New Japan

567
00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:08.159
that are younger guys, up and
coming guys, and to me, those

568
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:13.599
are the guys you want to be
introducing the American audience to like I want

569
00:49:13.639 --> 00:49:22.800
to see new exciting guys having like
fast page like peak matches. Yeah,

570
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:25.719
I don't. I don't get Panahashi, I don't get Suzuki. I don't

571
00:49:25.719 --> 00:49:30.880
get even yeah, any any of
these guys that are bringing in, like

572
00:49:30.920 --> 00:49:35.639
obviously Okada is still very much in
his prime, but beyond that, they

573
00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:39.320
just even Kodobushi. I mean,
come on, he can barely move and

574
00:49:39.360 --> 00:49:44.280
he's a younger guy. But yeah, it's it's rough. Yeah, I

575
00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:46.679
mean, you know, but about
what he was on a tricycle with a

576
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:51.480
pipe that was the biggest that was. That was pretty funny, that was.

577
00:49:51.960 --> 00:49:54.119
But you know, you know,
I don't want to be negative about

578
00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:58.519
it, you know too much,
but just state back, I do not

579
00:49:58.679 --> 00:50:05.440
like the Forbidden Door and the Canadian
tour. I like almost as almost as

580
00:50:05.840 --> 00:50:10.159
almost do not like that almost as
much as the as the uh as Forbidden

581
00:50:10.199 --> 00:50:15.320
Door because well I'm Canadian. Yeah, I don't mind it, but it

582
00:50:15.360 --> 00:50:20.679
does hurt my wallet because they did
a lot of shows in the Toronto and

583
00:50:20.719 --> 00:50:27.320
I can't prevent myself from getting in
Toronto though you know that's barely Canadian to

584
00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:31.840
Americans. You know what I'm saying, it's like it's Canadian, but it's

585
00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:39.519
you're you're like us, there's not
But when you get the Saskatoon, Saskatchewan,

586
00:50:42.719 --> 00:50:45.199
there's people coming out there. You
know, they wrote their boose to

587
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:50.719
the show and uh and you know, all twelve of them were there and

588
00:50:50.800 --> 00:50:55.519
they had no clue any of these
people were because because they don't get them

589
00:50:55.559 --> 00:51:00.239
on their transistor radios and they're igloos. You know what I'm saying. It's

590
00:51:00.239 --> 00:51:06.880
just that in parts of Canada,
they're they just don't know what a w

591
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:12.199
is. AW went some parts like
dude last year and it was like,

592
00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:15.840
what are you doing? Man?
Even yeah, I knew that that was

593
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:19.079
a bad choice, and I'm not
in that business, but I was like,

594
00:51:19.119 --> 00:51:22.960
what the hell? Mm hmm.
They Yeah, they did make some

595
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:27.639
questionable decisions even here. They did
a show like in Hamilton, which is

596
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:30.760
next city over. But you know, I think they had to comp some

597
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:35.039
tickets because there wasn't a lot of
people that seemed to be that familiar with

598
00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:37.360
AW at that show. Yeah,
but let me put it this way.

599
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:43.400
Yeah, all right, I'm not
saying anything bad about Canada here. What

600
00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:50.119
I am saying is that where is
the money for a w at it's in

601
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:58.079
the United States, and when you
spend all summer, the entirety of the

602
00:51:58.159 --> 00:52:02.800
summer out of the country with I
think they had one show in the United

603
00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:07.679
States in the summer of last year
and that three month period of time.

604
00:52:08.039 --> 00:52:15.079
That's just plain stupidity. I am
sorry. Well, I think the thinking

605
00:52:15.280 --> 00:52:17.519
must have been that, hey,
we have this truck, we're going to

606
00:52:17.599 --> 00:52:22.480
drive it. They probably have a
bunch of trucks, they drive them to

607
00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:24.960
Canada and then we just drive around
Canada for a while. Yeah, so

608
00:52:25.119 --> 00:52:30.039
maybe it saved money in some way, like obviously crossing the border is time

609
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:35.039
consuming, and they thought maybe they
could sell a bunch of tickets. But

610
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:38.920
yeah, I can only imagine outside
of Toronto. Toronto. Toronto was a

611
00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:43.920
good, good place to go.
Winnipeg was a good place in Montreal too,

612
00:52:44.000 --> 00:52:46.360
that's a big state. Montreal was
cool, except you could read the

613
00:52:46.400 --> 00:52:54.119
signs because they're in Fride. But
but now that Philippe and Francois Jackson are

614
00:52:54.559 --> 00:53:00.320
the EVPs and with their spray tad
and everything and there they're going to be

615
00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:06.159
retiring sting. You know, maybe
they could go home to Montreal and you

616
00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:08.639
know, and they should be right
at home, because they do look like

617
00:53:09.239 --> 00:53:15.519
up tight French boys to me right
now. Yeah, well I believe you

618
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:21.119
know what's his name, Daddy Magic
and cool Hand Ange. They're from Montreal

619
00:53:21.280 --> 00:53:24.920
or Quebec, all right, Sammy
Zaine. So yeah, maybe they could

620
00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:30.760
all get together. They could teach
him how to actually speak French. Wow.

621
00:53:35.000 --> 00:53:38.679
There's two other matches on. Yeah, we've got we've got Kyle Fletcher

622
00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:45.039
and Chris Jericho, and then we've
also got the Outo Prazzo on Tyavalcar.

623
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:51.440
So yeah, first, Kyle Fletcher
is my boy. I love Kyle Fletcher

624
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:57.199
when just because of that six man
that six man match at Ring of Honor,

625
00:53:58.039 --> 00:54:00.719
like he's my guy for life.
Now. I love Kyle Fletcher.

626
00:54:00.719 --> 00:54:05.239
He's so good. I think I
can't wait to see him just talking about

627
00:54:05.280 --> 00:54:08.760
the six man final battle match where
he yeah, yeah commander to win the

628
00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:15.000
belt. Yeah, that match was
just so good. And he's like he's

629
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:20.360
right up there with Kenoski Takeshta.
They're like these guys have like the talent

630
00:54:20.480 --> 00:54:24.679
of Kenny Omega and just and he's
so big too, Like both these guys

631
00:54:24.719 --> 00:54:30.800
are like six to three. They
look great, they're so young, like

632
00:54:30.960 --> 00:54:35.519
I just think the sky's the limit
for Kyle Fletcher. Unfortunately, he's probably

633
00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:39.159
gonna lose to Chris Jericho here and
set up a feud with for the next

634
00:54:39.199 --> 00:54:44.159
pay per view with the rest of
the family. But do you think I

635
00:54:44.480 --> 00:54:50.239
actually think that he's that Jericho is
going to succumb to uh to Kyle Fletcher.

636
00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:54.559
And I got to give a special
shout out to shades the Vibe by

637
00:54:54.639 --> 00:55:00.000
mentioning that, yeah, Kyle Fletcher
has like the worst haircut of any manner.

638
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:04.199
Yes he does. Yeah, he
does. When you see him not

639
00:55:04.440 --> 00:55:07.039
wrestling, it kind of makes more
sense. It looks a little bit more

640
00:55:07.719 --> 00:55:13.960
appropriate when you see his clothes in
that. But it's very it's very off

641
00:55:13.960 --> 00:55:16.559
putting. Yeah, I'm not kidding
you here, and I hate to be

642
00:55:16.840 --> 00:55:20.800
crass and I may have that it
this out, but his haircut looks like

643
00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:27.920
a looks like a circumcision gone wrong. I'm sorry. Yeah, but he's

644
00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:31.559
a bad guy, so I guess
it kind of works. Yes, I

645
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:36.400
mean, look at Boris Natasha.
All those guys have bad haircut, so

646
00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:43.440
yeah, yees. Do you give
tya Valkyria Snowball's chance and hell meaning Deanna

647
00:55:43.440 --> 00:55:51.239
Barozzo no, obviously not. I
mean Leanna Prozzo's fresh, she's new.

648
00:55:52.119 --> 00:55:55.559
Ta Valkyrie has already kind of been
a jobber to the stars for a little

649
00:55:55.599 --> 00:56:00.880
while. But like in all fairness, time of val, I feel like

650
00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:06.400
she's someone that we we've mentioned how
good the women's division in AW is once

651
00:56:06.440 --> 00:56:09.320
they get some people coming back in
big names, and I don't think once

652
00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:15.320
we've mentioned Tya Valkyrie, But I
think she's good. She's definitely a higher

653
00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:23.760
echelon woman's wrestler in my opinion,
and doing well at our Oh yeah,

654
00:56:23.840 --> 00:56:28.039
yeah, and I think she belongs
in that conversation. But yeah, it's

655
00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:31.719
going to be a Deanna Prazzo make
her look good match, and I think

656
00:56:31.760 --> 00:56:36.599
it'll be a good woman's match for
sure. It should be a good match,

657
00:56:36.639 --> 00:56:38.480
but there's no way that that ty
of Valkyri is going to win.

658
00:56:38.559 --> 00:56:44.440
And we're also going to see the
non wrestling edition of the AW Women's World

659
00:56:44.519 --> 00:56:50.800
Champion Tony Storm on commentary. Uh
so we're getting close to well, I

660
00:56:50.800 --> 00:56:55.360
think we've actually surpassed now two months, yes, two months today since Tony

661
00:56:55.360 --> 00:57:05.320
Storm has been in a wrestling ring. So yeah, no one, I

662
00:57:05.360 --> 00:57:08.440
know you were intensely keeping track of
this. Well, I'm just saying it's

663
00:57:08.519 --> 00:57:13.280
like, come on, I mean, if you're gonna have champions, they

664
00:57:13.320 --> 00:57:15.800
got to get in the ring and
fight. And I don't even count Ricky

665
00:57:15.800 --> 00:57:23.960
Starks a big bill. Their defense
against Jericho and Sammy is as a I

666
00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:29.679
don't think it counts because they never
made it to the ring. I don't

667
00:57:29.679 --> 00:57:30.800
think they were ever in the rig. If they were, it was a

668
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:34.840
very brief period of time. You
got to get into ring and fight if

669
00:57:34.880 --> 00:57:38.039
you're a champion. And Tony Storm
has won the championship on November eighteenth,

670
00:57:38.039 --> 00:57:43.679
and she's had two matches, two
total matches, been well over two months,

671
00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:47.519
and that's just not gonna fly.
Sorry, I mean, if if

672
00:57:47.559 --> 00:57:51.440
that's gonna be the case, take
to take the title off of Tony Storm

673
00:57:51.440 --> 00:57:53.760
and put it on somebody that's gonna
wrestle, because that's what I watched the

674
00:57:53.760 --> 00:57:59.000
show sports to see them wrestle.
And if your champion's not wrestling like Tony

675
00:57:59.039 --> 00:58:01.400
Storm, you're If your champions not
wrestling like Ricky Stark's a big bill,

676
00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:06.239
and what's the point having them in
having them in the having them with a

677
00:58:06.320 --> 00:58:09.440
title. Yeah, I'm just being
honest. There you know, I mean

678
00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:15.239
to wrestling. You know, Tony
Ston's there, She's being treated like a

679
00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:20.719
big deal at least like compared to
Ricky Starks some big bill. They do

680
00:58:20.840 --> 00:58:25.440
feel like an afterthought. I mean, you mentioned Ricky Stark's potentially leaving in

681
00:58:25.519 --> 00:58:30.400
free agency, and you kind of
get that vibe that maybe he's being treated

682
00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:37.159
as such. He's hanging around,
but you know, biting his time.

683
00:58:37.800 --> 00:58:39.880
I don't know, but they gotta
do some. I mean, you talk

684
00:58:39.960 --> 00:58:45.840
to anybody about it on social media. One of the big things that what

685
00:58:45.880 --> 00:58:52.320
does AW have to improve the tacting
division because it's it's it's bad right now.

686
00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:58.800
Yeah, that was so good.
It was so good before with FTR

687
00:58:58.960 --> 00:59:05.440
and them with like all the tag
titles and the Young Bucks and Loucher Brothers

688
00:59:05.519 --> 00:59:09.280
and having like amazing matches and yeah, and it's it's coming back. It's

689
00:59:09.320 --> 00:59:16.400
coming back. But you know they're
just it's it hasn't They've had good tag

690
00:59:16.800 --> 00:59:23.239
matches, but there's been no good
tag title matches. Yeah, you need

691
00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:29.079
you needed multiple. It feels like
there's not a lot of tag teams that

692
00:59:29.119 --> 00:59:35.599
are being treated as tag teams and
fighting other tag teams. Yeah, but

693
00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:39.400
if you look at it. Over
the last month or two, AW has

694
00:59:39.440 --> 00:59:45.679
done a really decent job of building
the men's tag division. Unfortunately, the

695
00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:52.239
tag teams that they've been mentioning are
not getting title shots, you know,

696
00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:58.400
other than Chris Jericho and Sammy Guevara, you know. And frankly, that

697
00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:02.519
was a goes good match. I
enjoyed that. It was a lot of

698
01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:08.159
fun. Yeah, you know,
but it was. I mean, nobody's

699
01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:13.360
was fun to watch. But nobody's
really talking about it right now other than

700
01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:19.360
that spot. Yeah. No,
it feels like FTR lost the titles the

701
01:00:19.400 --> 01:00:22.960
Big Bill and Ricky Starks, and
then the tag titles just fell into like

702
01:00:23.000 --> 01:00:30.719
a bottomless pit and they just became
something no one cares or thinks about anymore.

703
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:36.960
And hopefully it sounds like Darby Allen
and Sting are gonna retrieve those tag

704
01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:39.440
titles, put them on the line
against the Young Bucks, and maybe the

705
01:00:39.480 --> 01:00:46.480
Young Bucks will take them and bring
us to a much better place. Let

706
01:00:46.559 --> 01:00:50.760
me ask you this, do you
have any put you on the spot here?

707
01:00:50.800 --> 01:00:59.880
Do you have any spicy predictions for
Dynamite tomorrow? I guess that the

708
01:01:00.000 --> 01:01:04.960
the most spicy prediction I can make
based on what I'm looking at is Jeff

709
01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:12.639
Hardy heel turn like full out heel
Jeff Hardy. Okay, maybe attacking John

710
01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:16.800
Moxley in some form after the match, Like something's gonna happen with Jeff Hardy.

711
01:01:16.880 --> 01:01:21.000
I feel like you think Matt Hardy
gets involved in that too, because

712
01:01:21.000 --> 01:01:24.719
Matt Hardy will probably be out at
the ring. He could. I find

713
01:01:24.760 --> 01:01:31.360
it hard to imagine Jeff Hardy and
Matt Hardy alone as being good competition for

714
01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:39.400
the Blackpool Combat Club, right,
but yeah, maybe something along those lines,

715
01:01:39.519 --> 01:01:43.960
like they need more guys if they're
gonna do that. But yeah,

716
01:01:44.079 --> 01:01:50.119
I see something happening interesting with Jeff
Hardy. That's my spicy prediction. My

717
01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:55.239
spicy prediction is far, far less
engaging, intelligent, or even make sense.

718
01:01:58.239 --> 01:02:01.280
My spicy prediction is that we're going
to see the mother of all Food

719
01:02:01.400 --> 01:02:05.800
of all shoe fights tomorrow night.
I think that we're gonna see Mariah May,

720
01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:09.679
Tony Storm, Diana Pronzo, and
Tia Valkyri just really tossing the shoes.

721
01:02:12.119 --> 01:02:15.280
I think we're going to see a
full odd bloodbath with shoes. I

722
01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:20.360
just watched the stiletto does get stuck
in your forehead, That's all I can

723
01:02:20.400 --> 01:02:28.639
say, are they they're all going
to throw their own shoes? I think

724
01:02:28.679 --> 01:02:32.000
that No, I think that Tony
Storm and Mariah May will we'll throw shoes,

725
01:02:32.519 --> 01:02:37.320
they will get thrown back, and
then maybe Mariah May. This is

726
01:02:37.440 --> 01:02:42.320
how Maria May is going to turn
on Tony Storm by hitting Tony Storm with

727
01:02:42.360 --> 01:02:45.400
the shoe accidentally. No, I
think on purpose, because I don't think

728
01:02:45.519 --> 01:02:49.679
I think that's the whole point of
it is. Yeah, you know,

729
01:02:49.920 --> 01:02:55.719
there's just it's weird because when you
look at the at Samoa Joe, we

730
01:02:55.719 --> 01:03:04.519
we know who we think is going
to go after the title at at the

731
01:03:04.760 --> 01:03:07.960
Revolution, but we're not sure if
it's going to be one person, or

732
01:03:07.960 --> 01:03:09.719
if it's going to be two persons, or if it's gonna be three persons.

733
01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:14.519
And we've kind of the same situation
with which situation with Tony Storm.

734
01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:19.599
Yeah, it looks like Deanna Parazzo
is going to be going after the belt.

735
01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:23.239
But frankly, it seems more reasonable
for thunder Rosa to go after the

736
01:03:23.280 --> 01:03:28.639
belt because again, thunder Rosa never
lost the title when Tony Storm got it

737
01:03:28.679 --> 01:03:37.280
initially, you know, as the
Intern champion. So yeah, thunder Rose

738
01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:40.679
could rightfully say I never lost the
title, so it's hers to hers to

739
01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:44.719
get back. You know, she
should be the number one contender. She

740
01:03:44.800 --> 01:03:49.239
never lost it, so yeah,
yeah, for sure. And have they

741
01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:53.599
announced Dianna Parozzo versus Tony for the
pay per view? Is that they have

742
01:03:53.719 --> 01:03:58.360
not announced it, but it just
seems obvious that that's what the way they're

743
01:03:58.400 --> 01:04:02.159
going, you know. Yeah,
I mean they're building up the other thing

744
01:04:02.159 --> 01:04:05.159
that's going to be interesting tomorrow night. And I may be wrong on this,

745
01:04:05.239 --> 01:04:08.840
but I do believe the rankings are
going to be revealed. They're coming

746
01:04:08.880 --> 01:04:15.159
back tomorrow night. Could they could
be it could be uh on collision,

747
01:04:15.159 --> 01:04:18.280
but I'm pretty sure the rankings are
going to be revealed tomorrow night. So

748
01:04:19.079 --> 01:04:23.920
look at the lower thirds when these
wrestlers come out, because I think you're

749
01:04:23.920 --> 01:04:27.679
going to see the rankings as part
of their lower thirds again. So that

750
01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:30.639
would be interesting to see. M
M yeah, I guess would be a

751
01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:34.880
big part of Surtrick Lind and hang
Man Out of Pages match like. So,

752
01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:40.199
I don't know if you can remind
me how their rankings work. Is

753
01:04:40.239 --> 01:04:45.480
it you have to become the number
one ranked person in order to get a

754
01:04:45.519 --> 01:04:49.800
title shot. But what they used
to do to number one person would get

755
01:04:49.800 --> 01:04:56.079
a title shot. However, sometimes
they would have number one and number two

756
01:04:56.159 --> 01:04:59.280
with number three get into a three
way match and the winner that match gets

757
01:04:59.280 --> 01:05:02.760
a title shot. Uh huh,
yeah, that's you know, so you

758
01:05:02.760 --> 01:05:05.800
know, there's different ways they can
do it. The only problem that I

759
01:05:05.920 --> 01:05:15.920
have with the ranking system is that
it still just comes down to booking.

760
01:05:15.480 --> 01:05:21.679
So if you want to make Commander
the number one contender, you just put

761
01:05:21.760 --> 01:05:27.599
Commander against in matches that he's going
to have a win against, you know,

762
01:05:29.760 --> 01:05:35.320
local talent or sir petigo, you
know, stuff like that, and

763
01:05:35.480 --> 01:05:39.559
let him rack up some wins and
next thing you know, hey, he's

764
01:05:39.920 --> 01:05:45.159
he's got the he's the number one
rank contender, and that he did in

765
01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:48.719
the past, and then they would
have a number one contender fight for the

766
01:05:48.800 --> 01:05:55.119
championship, lose, and then that
number one contender would then fall down the

767
01:05:55.159 --> 01:05:58.159
rankings and they would never get built
back up, but they just be tossed

768
01:05:58.199 --> 01:06:01.519
aside. They've got to make the
fame ranking is more fluid and meaningful,

769
01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:06.000
not just as a means to build
up somebody to lose and never be seen

770
01:06:06.039 --> 01:06:13.639
again. Yeah. Yeah, and
that's whether there's rankings. There are no

771
01:06:13.719 --> 01:06:18.599
rankings. They have to do that, all right, then, Well I

772
01:06:18.639 --> 01:06:24.519
think that's gonna be it for the
show. Uh, Alex, always a

773
01:06:24.559 --> 01:06:30.280
pleasure talking to you. Yeah,
thank you bye for now. Yeah so

774
01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:38.880
for for aw Fanhubb, this is
Ignition. I'm Kelson and I'm Alex.

775
01:06:39.519 --> 01:06:40.559
Good night, everybody,