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Speaking of jerseys, you see the numbers. That's in the numbers. I
did I think I put the number? Oh yes, yeah, we got
the rookies announced what numbers they will be wearing for next year. Harry On
Arnold with number zio. That's that's all. You know. You say you
pick zero, sess the amount of receiving touchdowns. He's gonna give up because
ain't nobody like me. That's bar Is a dude. The kid talks choppy.
I fucking love it. Yeah and it. Tray Shaw with fifteen,
Simonvaki with thirty three. Those fit pretty well. I like those, Gievanni
Manu with fifty nine, nice, Christian Mahogany with seventy three, wrong number,
and Mkay Wingo with ninety four. I think those those are all pretty
like I none of them are bad. Those are those are all good?
What's the trash number? So I'm gonna be ask you. I'm not a
fan of the number fifteen, EU, they're outside of zero. They're all
kind of you. I'm not gonna lie except for you. I think thirty
three is good for backy, thirty three, ninety four is good. But
I'll tell you what I'm working on, son, Chris, something right now.
No matter how you feel about the numbers, it don't matter, Josh
be says, and says he chose fifteen because that's all that was left.
Damn. Yeah, that's tough for a second rounder, actually, Chris,
I just I'm gonna send you in this on his number choice. But uh,
zero, honesty's the only cook one out of the bunch, honest.
And maybe ninety four for Wingo ninety fourth though I like that. Seventy three,
that's a good offensive line number. You're right, seventy three with that
thirty three for Vakky, who's gonna be a guy that does it all?
I don't mind that either. I think it was pretty good. Fifteen was
Golden Tate doctor clapping cheeks yet, so I think receiver. I see fifteen,
I mean we may not like that. And thirty three, I guess,
yeah, he is a running back. Yeah, he's a running back.
He's his safety. He's gonna be doing a lot of different stuff.
I don't think thirty three is that bad. Do we have a video for
Minis Rickshaw? Chris, let me see? Is that the one you just
said? Yes, sir, oh no, give me two seconds thig?
Yeah. So I don't I really don't think thirty three is that big of
a deal. Like it's a solid number for a guy who's going to be
doing a lot of different things. I think that, uh, he should
just I don't know what what number would you like to see him with,
faky kind of like a single digit or something like that, like maybe some
unique I mean thirty three, I guess is unique. But I think of
like a defense I guess I see thirty three, which I guess he is.
He's gonna he's gonna play defense too. He's gonna play defense. He's
gonna do a lot of different stuff. So that's why I like thirty three,
because that's a number that can do a lot of different things. You
can play defense, you could be a running back, you can do a
lot of different stuff on special teams. I don't think it's too bad.
I just want I think thirty three I think of like a bigger human,
you know what I'm saying. I mean, he is pretty big for a
running back. Ass like six foot six foot one or something like that.
Look big. I really want to see my defense. Is that is that
weird to me? My only one? I don't think it's that weird.
Like I want to see on defense too. I want to see him go
out there and make some plays because that's what he is. He's a playmaker,
so it's not like he's gonna be structured to one position. So that's
why I like thirty three. Yeah, I guess I'm not tripping, like
really, it's just a player that makes it. Now we got to do
do it for mines. Facer Straw that was speaking about his choice number choice,
and uh, actually gas, I love this response, Chris. I'm
happy to be a lion. It was good to be out there. Number
fifteen, number fifteen. It was the best available. It was number fifteen,
number thirty three or whatever. I chose fifteen the number don't make the
player. The player make the number. So I got a job to do.
That's that's a bar for sure. And that's why I'm not tripping.
Honest, I really, I really don't think the numbers are overly sexy.
I never really care too much about numbers. But there are numbers that do
look sick. I got that. Yeah, maybe it's from players that we've
watched in the past. I don't think fifteen looks that bad. Are you
guys saying fifteen looks bad? I haven't seen a defensive back. I think
that's what it is for me. Well, I mean, Nick, well,
you have the numbers. By the numbers, by the numbers. I
mean, I tweeted out, got no love, but Terry on Time shoutout
dame a little dame time, you know, doing the clock. I think
when fourth quarter comes around and the other team's trying to make a comeback,
I think that's when Terry on Time actually comes around and maybe gets a game
winning interception, sorry, game ceiling interception. Sorry, No, don't make
Terry time thing. It makes me think of Dagger time, and I don't
sure that does why. Yeah, you know what was cold and I gotta
give my guys some some props because he gave us a bunch of names that
day to the Tongue and Tower of Terror. Oh yeah, l yeah,
sub zero, sub zero, Yeah i'd lose. Yeah, Bro, that's
that's dope. Yeah, that's number zero's Yeah. Sub zero is one of
the best Mortal Komba characters as well, so all day. Yeah, that
still sticks though for fourth quarter him making big place to stop games. That's
what I like about Terry. I think he's going to make a lot of
plays, especially in the fourth quarter. With other teams throwing the ball a
lot, I think he's going to be able to exploit that. So he
says number one. Who is it? It's Marie Exander. He's got number
one, which if he doesn't make the team, you better believe in his
right show is gonna grab that. He should like, see you like one
better? Fifteen Yes, for sure, exactly. I mean, I don't
think one thing is a weird number for dB. That's all it is for
me. I'm not tripping over the numbers of beings with you. But all
the twenties are gone. There's no numbers in the twenties. I'm not the
check the Lion's roster right now. Actually, there's gonna be who's twenty one
now that Tracy left twenty one? Can you do something? Man? Maybe
he's coming back real quick too, Just Tase Davis took twenty one. Obviously,
yesterday we were talking about having Peter Bukowski on. He will be joining
us today at five thirty. I've seen he's blocked uh quite a few of
the bulge Army. Yeah, he's been. He's been blocking the bulge.
Blocked our girl, Katie, bulge blocking. Yeah, blocked our girl,
Katie. He's blocking the bulge, and we're just gonna have to address it.
We're gonna try to bring peace and I'm gonna pump out some SPEPA stats
and see how he agrees with you do it? I want to do it?
Yeah, Okay, I'm geek. Oh, I'm gonna say the speep
of projections. Just Jamior Gibbs having being a top five back in the NFL.
I wonder like, when do we do we do it? Off rip?
No, it's gonna be like right in the middle, Okay, right
in the middle, or just like because he seems like very pro packer.
Yeah, I don't know, what do you think, I mean, obviously
does I'm gonna say, like, uh, Jamire Gibbs. Spepa stats have
him ranked over. We should just Sayosh Jacobs PIPA and the ship on a
packer player like Speapa says Jordan Love. Actually, like I'm gonna say,
Speapa says Jamier Gibbs is a better rusher, per per yard or per handoff
than Josh Jacobs. I mean he is. I think let's not give up
all the Let's not give up all the m out here. You know he's
not watching right now. I gotta I gotta told me text him, uh,
just in time from the come on so he hopefully you get a little
bit of Bulls Army in here. Maybe read some fan questions you guys have,
question Peter, I really hope because I know how, at least specifically
the Bull's Army they droves exactly. So like, I really hope he's able
to set the because sometimes I get pissed off, I'll just say some ship
to piss off the other side. Like that's what I do with the Jared
Goff stuff. We know. So I hope he's not in that mode.
I hope he's able to give us some non By. We had him on
already once and he was good. So yeah, he whispered not byas for
that one. Yeah, and we're the ones talking ship and then we got
to yeah last time the messaging back on. I saw our last message and
it was a ha ha from him. Yeah about that choppy. You know,
I don't know if we'll get again because I'm pretty sure he heard afterward.
But Cox Sports, I remember that guy, Cocksports Bears. I'm pretty
sure yeah, yeah, I mean yeah. The thing is if they don't
return off the because we saw what the call him on Twitter from yes,
Peter's last name, I wonder if it's like this brings back like high school
memories or something, you know what I'm saying. They have two easily names.
Yeah for sure, Like definitely got bullied in high school, but we
are cock Sports. That was funny. That one was funny, and we
we did it immediately after the interview. Yeah, so like I'm pretty sure
heard he definitely heard it. He was still on the line. I'm sure
what you know it is? What it is was funny and fuck the Bears.
Dan Campbell not at Rookie Mini Camp this year for personal reasons of hope
ball as well with him. Oh shure, Yeah, praise to him and
his family. Hope everything's going well for mcdc and his fan. Oh,
we have no number one at least not on the Lion's website yet. I
just see number two. Hennon Hooker. I'm pretty sure, Maurice Alexander said,
so, he's probably got it for camp. Yeah, not gonna be
official. Roster. Zero's on here for Terry On Arnold did within number one?
Yeah, Terry Arnold's gonna make the roster. It's fair. Trey Kuan
Smith number ten? Wow? Really it is Maurice Alexander on there at all?
Because I remember that was the whole thing, is that he got number
one and people were pissed off. Okay, he is going to be number
one just because Marie Alexander his former numbers fifteen, which is now yes,
yep. Let me check the twenties though, so twenty was available, twenty
two was available, what twenty five was available? What come on? Duduis
my shoes? Carlton Davis, Carlton Davis is I don't know, how do
you find it? Well, Carlton Davis should have took should have took du
to dou you should have took one. Did they announce his number? I
don't think they twenty three, twenty three? Go, yeah, it's good.
This thing's obviously we should have took duce. Douce are twenty five Carlton
Davis because no, uh, and it's Rickshaw. Maybe maybe there's a reason
nine fifteen is not open. Yeah, we'll see, we'll see. But
again, hit the bar where it's not the players something number that makes a
player. It's a player, it says pretty sure. Twenty two is retired.
Mmm, and so it's twenty Actually, twenty is definitely retired. Well,
if it's not, nobody takes it on purpose. Yeah it should not.
It's definitely retired. Nobody should ever wear twenty or eighty one for the
Lions ever. Again, speaking of which, I just gotta get this in
before we get too far from it, unless you want to say for the
end of the show, twenty two is lane. It's retired, says prosty
Okay, n cublea cover came out. I know twenty five is not retired,
so twenty five is definitely cool in fifteen All right, now, you're
good. Who's twenty five? Well, I know THEO ritic War twenty five.
Oh yeah, didn't never lost in War twenty five. I think too,
he might have been twenty four. Who cares. Yeah, I know
it's not retired, and I know it's cool in fifteen, so it is
cool in fifteen either way. Do you see the n C double cover?
Do you want to save this for the end of the show. Yeah,
I saw it. Well, we can put it up, throw it out,
throw it up. I don't know if you've got it. I mean
it makes the ncaa football cover. Wait, you said, I said if
I thought I did, I mean I'm working. Yeah, Donovond Edwards is
in the middle. I mean I was cleaning up poop and puke, so
like I was having a dude, I just because I knew. I knew
something happened to I just because last night Holly like got up and left in
the middle of the night. I was like, what's she's doing? She
left my room and then she came back in and laid back down, smoking
uber and come back. She fucking puked. Ude? Did she snuck out?
Got I saw it? I saw the street, however, I went
I didn't see it because I just wake up, shower and leave in the
morning and then listen. There's no Brady's around my house, so she doesn't
have to worry about that. But I had to. I had to clean
up puke from Kobe too this morning. This man, this man just eats
too fast sometimes. Yeah, that's all. I think. Holly's eating grass
in the backyard, or she eats worms too. She's fucking weird. Not
at least grass. I don't think anyone cares about what our dogs eating.
Vomit. Did you get the picture? Grissh grab it right now? All
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Nickless, call off, Let's go schmit. She like button your friend,
Tell a friend. Detroit Lions opened up rookie Minnie Camp today. Got to
speak with all those guys. I actually every single draft pick. I'm pretty
sure I spoke with the media today. I want to do this one as
people funnel win though, because obviously think the hot topic is what Terry On
said. Yes, do we save that? You want to jump in that
right away? Or do you want to talk about this Jovanni Manue We can
talk about the Johanna manuwe stuff. We'll talk about Terry On next. Okay,
Chris, there is another video in there of our assistant GM. If
you want to grab that pretty sure that's the one he's talking about. Johanni
Minu. I apologize guys as a client, regardless he had mentioned that.
Obviously you're here to talk to him to playing guard. We all can scratch
your head, like, yes, I think he did play guard a little
bit in college. Obviously, you look at a guy that side you are,
you immediately think attacked. First thing you think it's tackle, the cross
training. And the only reason why I find this relevant is we brought discussions.
Actually, I think Neil's first want to bring it up that Taylor doctors
days maybe number and a disrespectful way. No, I really don't. He's
getting up there with the cross training him to play that right side of the
line. I'm assuming to take on that right tackle responsibilities once Taylor Decker,
you know, moves on or whatever may happen in the future. With that
situation, I guess what do you make of that? That makes sense to
me? I mean, if it'd be easier for him to learn how to
play right guard and then just shift out to right tackle when Penne Suela moves
over, rather than teaching him how to play left tackle or whatever you're trying
to do. So if they want him to the right guard. I find
a hard time believing they see him as a guard. But I don't know,
Man, with his athleticism and his speed, could you think of a
fucking refrigerator like that, pulling on the outside and making things happen? Like
he is our most athletic lineman now, so yeah, over sewell over so
yeah, No, you see his numbers. Yes, he's more athletic than
Penny, Like. The guy's a freaking nature And I just think, I
don't know, We'll see you. Like you said, when you see his
size on paper, the first thing you think of his tackle. But with
his athleticism, they might want to use him as a guard. Nick,
I just think, I mean, if you can be a Swiss Army knife
on that offensive line, I mean, we heard him talk today. This
guy is so determined to succeed in the NFL. And if you are,
at any point in time a cornerback or a safety see Manu and Sewell running
straight at you, you are running the other way. So I'm excited to
see what this offensive line will look like in the future. Honestly, I
think he can pull it off. The move to the right side as well.
Yeah, I said the same thing. It's I mean the tongue and
tower of tear. You're a right guard and or tackle will mean the thing
too, is as I guess in camp today, I think it'll listen to
all of it. But he said he was comfortable out there. Grand these
are rookie, so none of these guys have gotten like NFL experience will be
outside of Matthew Betts, who he did see some reps against and did say
I'd have to catch up, you know, to play that level. But
I did he felt comfortable today, which is it is for me, is
a positive sign. But also guess what do you expect him to say?
No, I mean, yeah, that's obviously what he's gonna say is that
he feels he feels comfortable and he'll do whatever he needs to and stuff like
that, regular rookie talk. But I know I did it at a very
lower level, but I am a very lower level of athlete compared to these
guys as well. It's not that hard. They actually like members. But
it was like, when when you be able to do that, he should
be able to do It's it's not like they need him to jump in and
do it right away. So learning that other side of the line should not
be too tough for him. What do you make of do you think the
reason why it's disguised, and maybe it's not disguis's guard. Maybe they actually
you want to play guard, or just so he's They cross train a lot
of people. They love the versatile, they really do. I mean they
had done it with multiple people now too, on the offensive line specifically too.
Remember Nelson. It made him from from defensive end to a right tackle.
Like I think, there's cross trained people just to be ready. And
you have Skipper playing guard in different games exactly. It's yeah, big body,
big bodies. You want to get big bodies out there as much as
possible. And that is true too like Dan Skipper if he's playing guard,
the tongue in power Tower can play guard too. Like Skipper's not a small
man by any sense of the meet. He is a giant dude, So
I would not be surprised. Like I said, it makes sense the more
I think about it of why they want him at guard, because of his
athleticism, because of his speed, and because of just him being a freak
of nature athlete. That getting that guy out in space in front of your
running backs in front of your wide receivers, throwing blocks like that, motioning
him, moving him around. That would make sense to me. How do
you How do you guys feel about pro day numbers in general? Though?
Like, do you think I mean obviously because athlete, you see what he
is on tape, like moving at that size, would you ever feel like?
I mean me personally, I like pro numbers always kind of like loved
a little bit that the more they're less efficient, they're flubbed a little bit
for sure. But did you see his pro Day and how many people were
there, Like, they're not going to flub that. Guys that are or
eleven teen or something. Yeah, guys that are there from other teams aren't
gonna flub the results. You can't flub the results of a vertical jump you're
doing in front of thirty people. You can't flub the results of thirty people
having stop watches while you're running your forty. Like, yeah, the team
will boost him up, so maybe he ran a five oho one instead of
a four nine to nine. But like I this guy pulling if he fans
out would be terrifying. Yeah, dude, that's what I see. Absolutely
like that man being a lead blocker would put fear into cornerbacks be no fun.
I think a big reason why, like maybe right guard might be the
spot too, is because Zeitler's on the one year contract, you know,
and he's up there in age, so I don't know if we extend him,
and then you guys already brought it up. Decker he's on the last
year as well. There's a lot of moving parts in this offensive line,
so if he can do multiple things, it makes him even more valuable,
especially at that size. If he can move the way that we think he
can, you need to be able to do multiple things. You need to
You look at that and basically every guy on our offensive line, except for
the guys that Brad Holmes didn't draft or re sign, are able to play
multiple positions on that offensive line. You look at the only ones who really
are stuck to their positions and don't really play anywhere else Taylor Decker and Frank
Ragnow, but Frank definitely did play guard. Yeah, he played guard as
well too. They signed Graham Glasgow because he can play both guard spots and
the center. We know Penney Sewell can play both tackle spots. They got
a guy in Christian Mahogany who could play both guard spots. Like It's I'm
not worried about it, but they do love the versatility for all of their
players, and that includes players on the offensive line. He's gonna be dog.
I don't I don't mind it either way. I guess I don't really
necessarily want to paint it as a Tailor Decker thing now too that I've just
realized how many people they have played multiple positions. I mean, even from
a guy Rocky both offensive in defense. I don't know what's gonna been kept
Will Harris here for like six years because you can play every position, playing
linebacker in full back. I just mentioned Skipper. They had him at Garden
Snaps. They have met tackle who put him at tight end. We had
a running back back there too. It was a former defensive back. He's
on a team. Yes, Yeah, they move everybody around. Yeah.
Actually Jared Davis. Jared Davis, who's our full back. Jason Cabenda linebacker
fullback. So actually, I'm not gonna paint that as a riding on the
wall for Taylor Decker. They just he's just literally being cross trained to play
the NFL. Yeah, get him you got. You want to get guys
like that out there as much as you can, So the easiest way to
get players on the field and to have your guys play is to make sure
they know how to play multiple positions. Look at our secondary. Everybody in
our secondary can play any position in the secondary. So when you have the
versatility to move people around like that, you can put your best players out
there at all times. The only reason why I had it Peg does like
him to take over the right tackle spot. Well, not the only reason,
but another reason why too is you also have Mahogany, who I believe
severely underrated in this draft class in terms of like how the guards were taken.
That he plays that right side of line too, if I'm not mistaken,
Yeah, I feel like obviously that'd be a more seamless transition. And
then trying to get this guy to learn right guard, I feel like he's
just learning the right side of the line in general, because he only played
the left, left guard and left tackle. However, just the other side
of the line, speak of guy's playing multiple positions, I'm gonna just tease
that one Tara oh Man. When he gets that Mike, he he's the
electric I just don't. I don't know if it's like off the cuff where
he's just calculated like that, He's just he's who he is. I think
that's who he is, and I think that's why Brad Holmes Day Campbell fell
in love with the kid. I have this question, but I guess back
to the offensive line, who do you think would see I don't even want
to say this because it would obviously mean like an injury or something like that.
Not like that, just in the terms like their careers. Who do
you think makes the start first? Between Mahogany or Manu Mahogany. That's what
I'm meant too. Everyone kind of knows minus the project. I cannot wait
for this season. Nick, say, somebody goes down like maybe a Glasgow
for a game or something. Do you think Mahogany's like NFL ready where he
can make a spot start kind of like we saw sores Dell do like a
year one. Yes, and you think he could be good like I think
he Yeah, I think he better than So. I think he'd better than
Tale as well. Is that crazy to say? No? I really don't.
I don't think so. I don't think so. The tape suggested that,
yeah, the level of competition, the level of competition he was playing
was higher than when Soresdale was playing. Yeah, Soresdale played left tackle,
then got moved to guard position like it's his natural position. It's not.
It's really like a again, the most seamless move is him to right guard.
In a situation where Zitler retires, Zeitler might not retire either's once.
Dude, I got a mute Keys for a little bit. Why would he
do. He's just being annoying, just hating ten minutes brother, come back.
Yeah, having a day. He didn't know. He's just it was
the same ship he's doing yesterday, the same He's just trashing Brad Holmes,
trashing the draft picks. Like, get over yourself, man, Keys,
I'm sorry. It was not my not my decision. Oh yeah it was
me. It's it's just annoying, Like, I don't know what you want
to do. You don't have faith in Brad Holmes yet, I know you.
You slobbed here golf more than anybody else. I thought you were joking
for most of the points, but like, I can't deal with that another
day in a row. Oh he was joking No, he's not. He's
being serious. He does the same thing he said, He's doing the same
thing yesterday. It's just annoying. Well, let's go to break. We
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will be joined by Peter Bukowski talking that ship I see you block, multiple
of you guys taking fan questions talking to mc north. But before that,
let's talk about our new shiny toy Terry on Arnold. Whatever clip you want
to play first, Chris, it's all it's all cool, it's all fire.
All right, it's the first one you are going to eat this when
the starting I said, quarterbacks. Uh, well, first thing first,
I gotta bring my brother into the cut. They dragged both of us,
so I would say, us just coming in here and being the young guys
and the dynamic, we're gonna be here for a long time. We're gonna
go together, we're gonna sell together, take our losses together, take them
on the chin. And I just in an organization for drafting both of us,
my brother right here. Now, I got a question out here now
that you're a line, like, what's the first food? What's the first
thing that you want to do is being in Detroit. I haven't thought about
that yet. First thing I wanted to do is this come in practice,
So I mean that's not the way. Next thing I want to do is
catch a pig six in the stadium. I have one more question. Is
there any new language that you learned from Detroit. Yet, Yeah, I
gotta go get me some dang man some uh what's the name of the saves
man. I gotta give me some of them. Yeah, I gotta get
me some of them. After I catch a pig, I gotta put the
mom and I'll give me some of them. That right there. Just one
thing because I talked about this year the day when he did the podcast al
Bama and I texted you guys in the morning the group chet because I was,
I was, I was just fired up. Anything this kid's asked you
always kind of reverts it back to the game somehow, somewhere. I know
if it's if it's calculated. We were generation that grew up Plane two K,
press A for a teammate chemistry or press B to Piezer fans. But
like it's this Gas. Every single time, every question he's asked reverts back
to the game, back to the practice, even not even the game.
I'm talking about practice. No, yeah, literally practice. First thing you
want to do, Detroit, I want to get hear practice. I want
to hear good work on my game. What's after that, Well, I
want to get my first interception. Like as Gas, it makes sense now,
like it makes sense why this guy was so high on Dan Campbell and
Brad Holmes draft board. It makes sense why they said they wanted to do
anything, possibly move up to fifteen to get this guy if they had to.
He is a Dan Campbell Brad Holmes got. He is gonna fit right
in in the locker room. He is a football junkie. And you love
to hear that. You love to hear these high talented another Alabama defensive back
come in here and be about fucking business. I love it man. Like
like you said, the one the first thing you wanted to do, go
to practice. The second thing he wanted to do get a pick six at
the stadium, and the third thing he wants to do is get some buffs.
So like that, that's about as detroit as it gets. I love
it for him, man. I'm excited for this kid and what he brings
to the table. And his attitude is gonna fit right in. And it's
exactly what they look for in a player. It's exactly what they look for,
and guys they want to build this franchise with is guys like Terry On
Arnold. Sorry, playing back in the chat, I don't know how to
use this ad. So either way, I love it. And in fact,
they brought the teammate into I mean, you don't have to do that.
That's the part where I'm like, is this a show at this point?
I'm not used to seeing that they're also going into like a competitive environment.
But they're alsoti just teammates in the day, but like I know,
first day in they both want to show out Nick. Yeah that you love
to see him bring in the teammate. I feel like all the hype around
Terry On ring strass almost getting like a little slept on all of a sudden.
I don't know, that's just me how I feel. But when it
comes to Terry On, you can tell that he spent all those years at
Alabama. When it comes to the media, he's savvy with it, but
he adds the extra sizzle, you know. I know you got have all
been talking about it, But it's the aura of this kid. Yeah,
Like it's special. Like every time he opts in front of the microphone,
everybody is listening to what this guy has to say because something special and a
sound bite's gonna come out of his mouth every single time. So shout out
Saban for obviously teaching him how to deal with the media shout out him and
his personality and his confidence for making it a little sizzle too. I gotta
be honest, like, when it comes to it, I think it's all
him. I mean, I love Saban and they get there's a lot of
media attention that Alabama. But like we have Brian Branch from Alabama. He
really liked that. You know, Jamior Gibbs like it's it's it's really him,
the way he carries himself. Yeah, it's confidence about that action,
boss, and about that action. How many times have we said it?
You need to be confident if you're a defensive back. We like our defensive
backs that talk a little choppy like that. And we have further are we
doing? Yeah, yes, the other audio as well. Yeah, this
is this is about is Dan Campbell. As it gets right here, I
can literally picture Dan Campbell is saying this exact sentiment tool anywhere. I don't
consider my off a cornerback. I consider myself a defensive player. I can
play everyone on the field. I can even line up and nose guard up.
I gotta line up there. But I mean playing football is something I've
been doing as a kid, and uh, like I could say you to
say, man, I just I'm happy to be out here. I really
am. A couple more guys spoke about your mother said no. But again
another thing first, chaln bro he don't care. I don't care where you
put me. I'm gonna figure it out. We're gonna make it happen.
I was watching a little bit of film, a little I mean quite literally
a little bit of film the other night on him, and uh, he
really did play that that star position they call in Alabama, which is like
their nickel or float around, do whatever the hell you want. He's been
bred to literally do what he just said. He means it wholeheartedly. I
was even listening to something on the way in actually Peter's podcast, and he
had Jim Naggy on, and Jim Naggy is like, yeah, the way
they're like cross training. Actually we just talked about it actually with Minu the
cross training these defensive players more specifically like the safeties. You can move them
down the line just because it's such a more pass happy league. Yeah,
like it's he's already come in developed that way. So I because the main
that main question was meant to say, like would you rather play left side,
right side, doesn't give a fuck. He can do whatever he wants.
And we talked about it in spades with this group and what they like,
and it's the versatility. And you have guys like Brian Branch, like
Carlton Davis, you had Cam Sutton before he started joking. People like these
guys can play multiple different positions on the field. That Meek Robertson could play
inside, can play outside, could do different stuff. If Emelfabu a former
corner who now plays safety, like they have guys in this secondary that can
do anything, that can play multiple positions. Because in case somebody gets injured
god forbid, or something happens, you got guys that you want your best
players on the field at all time. So instead of bringing in a guy
to fit a certain role because he can only play that spot, you just
rotate your best players and put the best five or however many secondary members you
have out there at a time. It's I'm excited for this team. I
heard Braylant talking about it. If they talked about in the morning too.
The actually brilliant idea from from Broader to know how we used to buy yourself.
So he's got peaks and cheeks, and I don't know if it's meant
that way, but cool it twisted the peaks and cheeks that too. But
regardless, they're talking about like Terry On starting, and a lot of them
actually said cheeks, like as in like sell no, because a guy who's
in town right now, Mick Robertson again, Guys, I wouldn't be surprised
if he is the starter and you're seeing Terry On bumped into the nickel and
branch playing in safety or even at Ray Constraw playing the nickel, it's still
branched. But I don't think he gets over Terry I think Terryon's more like
ready now especial playing the Alabama scheme. But he could, he could truly
place himself anywhere. Then here's here's that dog mintell uh. This next clip
absolute savage clip or savage thing to say, especially on the eve of Mother's
Day when that comes from my mom and my aunt. But to say it
time just my competitiveness that grows up in like my whole family. Like even
as a kid when I used to beat my mom and racing like I had
to jainly beat her and we used to fight when I was younger, just
wrestling with her, playing around, like, man, I'll never forget that
one time my mom kicked my tubac because we were just going at it so
hard. So if my mom was out here right now and she lined up
across me as a receiver, I would jammer into the dirt. That's just
that's my mind's and my mom knows that right now. Oh dog, well
dogs in his mug, All dogs are on his mud. It's literally what
it is. And like I said, that is the most Dann Campbell'sian answer
I've ever heard. Like, if my mom lined up across from me,
I jammed her into the dirt. That's what you want. That's the kind
of competition you want. Like, sorry, Mom, but if we're on
a debate right now, I'm I'm coming after your spots. Like it's there.
There is no love in the profession, Like like Mike Mike Tyson says,
you know, I want to do I want to eat your children like
I'll do. That's the kind of mentality you have to have to play for
these guys, bro. It's it's awesome what they're building and these guys this
kind of attitude they're bringing around in fort Field and in Allen Park. They're
they're hungry man. They're not taking no for an answer, and they don't
care if it's Jesus Christ himself lined up on the other side of him.
You know, he's getting clamped down or he's getting routed up, like it
doesn't matter. Shot to his mom for just I raised him that way.
Like, I've never really heard him and I don't know what the situation is.
I don't want to like dive into it, but I've never really heard
him speak about his father too much. It's always been like his mother or
his grandfather. Shout out to her for just raising a man, raising a
dog. Still. You know, I guess there's a lot of single mother
athletes out there, but this guy's mentality is a different and I like it
too. It reminds you of Spinny when he does talk that shit, because
a lot of it can come off arrogant, a lot of it come off
as brash. But like, what's the two things? And this is a
wild example of it because he's gone off the deep end. But Kanye West,
those are two things you think when you hear that man speaking arrogant,
brash, But it's also what it was originally obviously before he started taking the
pills. It was undying belief in yourself. So you do talk that crazy,
you know. I'm saying, like, like you you are willing to
say the craziest ship because you've proven to yourself in your life that you're able
to accomplish what you just said. Uh. Same with Antonio Brown. I've
I've found that in two is like he talks wild. Yeah, you hear
him saying like, I'm the best like wide receivers, crazy, let me
go. I can still go in there, play right now. But he
proved that. Yeah, and these are also guys coming from shitty situations to
like obviously Terryon still has his career to go, but to the top of
like their professions, and it's just that undying belief himself. Almost he even
spoke to this pre draft was like some people they speak, it's it's delusion
with me. It's not that I've proven these things to myself some along those
lines, but it's it's you believe it. At least I believe when he's
saying it. I'm very curious. I'm I'm just excited to see him play
me too. Yeah, we've heard the term so much from our GM Brad
Holmes, it's we don't we draft football players here, you know, we
draft football players like when this guy talks like you can just feel the love
of the game that he has a football and it's just crazy that we got
another guy that's just another die hard, Like he's gonna look at you and
he's gonna beat you. He's gonna win. That's why I believe that he
could win a starting job. I know I was talking crazy all the Pro
Bowl, All Pro all that stuff out during the draft because we were so
hyped up or I was so hyped up to grab him. But that's why
I just believe that he's gonna beat the guy in front of him. I
think he'll beat him out. I mean, just the confidence he has in
himself. It really shines through every time he talks. And I can't wait
to see him on the field. Speaking of the name, people can't wait
to see. Maybe not so much the liance community, but we do have
Peter Bukowski joined the show at five point forty two. We'll discuss many of
the things he's had to say, including the Detroit Lions as well as just
the overall I guess what I'm looking for status of the NFC North. Yeah,
who's gonna win this year? And whatnot? He's actually calling me right
now. What if he's having issues at the text? I'm little know.
I'm live right now, but go up yesterday. I could situate this.
You don't mind. Uh, yeah, it's I am excited to see what
these guys can do. Obviously, you've got the two young dogs in the
backfield to go out there and make in the defensive backfield, to go out
there and try to make a name for themselves in Ennis Ragshaw and Terry On
Arnold, and you know they're not gonna back down. They're gonna be fighting
for every opportunity. So iron sharp AND's iron. That's gonna bring out the
best in in these guys. It's gonna bring out the best in the guys
ahead of them because they know they have to be on their p's and q's
because they're gonna be having some young dogs nipping at their heels. So I'm
excited for it. But uh, if you got young dogs nipping, yeah,
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without further ado, I'd like to introduce Packers reporter from Lockdown Packers. I
appreciate you. There's a million other things too. Peter Bukowski joined the show.
What up man? Hey guys, Hey, I'm here. What's going
on? How do we number one of Lion's Twitter as as of a couple
of days ago getting into it and and the Bulger army coming after you.
Peter, how are you feeling, man? You know what, I'm okay,
uh, mostly mostly unscathed. It's funny because this is already where I
am with like Bears fans and Vikings fans, and so to be here finally
with Lions fans, it's just it feels like a normal to me, Like
I'm used to people coming out my neck and that's fine, Like that's part
of the deal, that's part of the fun I frankly did not expect it.
Like when I sent out the tweet yesterday saying that the Packers had a
better offter than the Lions, I did not expect to get the reaction that
I got to it. But that you know, that's just part of off
season content, but also just like part of the rivalry. And I think
like we're at the place now where Packers Lions is is a rivalry because for
years, right, like what was it Like there were like twenty three and
four against the Lions for years and years and years and it wasn't a rivalry.
And you know, I heard from a lot of Detroit fans lately like,
well, we're four and two against you, like the last whatever.
How many times it's like, okay, so let's let's see let's new era
in both places, let's see how this goes moving forward. I'm excited to
see it. I'm excited to see it too. I'm maybe not as excited
because we kind of just got here. You guys could have waited to,
you know, pull out Jordan Love. Yeah, where you at a couple
of years? At least are you more of a belief of what he was
a second half of the year because we actually just did our all NFC North
offensive and defensive teams. I caught back last from my very own lines fan
because I put Jordan Love that quarterback. I mean, how do you weigh
that Jordan Love versus Jared Golf. So I think it is intuitive to say,
well, he's not what he was in the second half of last year.
That's just like, not the guy we saw the first couple of games.
Except that even if that's true, when he was like one of the
two or three best quarterbacks in the league in the second half of the year.
Over the course of the season, just look at the numbers. He
was in the top ten in every important statistical category. Whether you like the
advanced numbers, whether you like the raw numbers, you like, touchdown numbers,
yardge numbers, like whatever you like. He was up there at the
top, and then you see the high level plays. His ability to based
on what I'm doing as the quarterback take over a football game, I think
is at a higher level than we have seen from most, frankly, of
the other quarterbacks in the NFC. If we're like not just NFC North,
but like all of the NFC, and so if you're going to extrapol a
moving forward, you go, okay, if he's that guy, that guy's
an elite quarterback. That guy's like one of the He can be one of
the five or six best quarterbacks in the league, can be one of the
two or three best quarterbacks in the league. With that talent and what he
did with all first and second year receivers, all rookie tight ends, two
new tackle starters along the offensive line, and Aaron Jones missing more than half
the season. If you just look at raw games played, it's about half
the season, but he was not healthy even in about half of the games
that he played. He really missed more like twelve or fifteen games in terms
of what he was totally healthy. I think that gives you a pretty good
idea of what Jordan Love is. And I think we forget now the first
three games of the year, he was awesome. He'd lit up the Chicago
Bears, came back from seventeen points down in the fourth quarter on his shoulders
to beat the New Orleans Saints, and then it was only a defensive collapse
against the Atlanta Falcons in Atlanta that cost them a three to oh start.
So I think it's easy to look at that middle five games. You know,
it started with the Lions beat down, and I was dead wrong about
that game. I did not understand why the Lion was what it was and
the line was right, and I took a lot of heat on Twitter for
it before and after, but I said it again before the Thanksgiving game,
and I was right that game. Like this team is, these teams are
pretty close, and that's why this is really fun, because moving forward,
I think the Lions are going to be measured against the Packers and vice versa,
and that is a that is a place guys that I don't think in
the one hundred year history of these two teams, you can ever have said
that at any other time. I agree. My whole thing about Jordan Love
is that I need to see him do it for a whole other season before
I put him out of because now that the league has a year of tape
on him, I want to see how he reacts to sixteen games or seventeen
games of Jordan Love tape being out there and seeing how the league adjusts to
how he plays. Okay, but on the flip side, what defense has
figured out the Shanahan Tree offense yet, like no one figured out Jared Goff
in LA. No one figured out Jimmy g in San Francisco, no one
figured out even like Baker Mayfield and Cleveland that was more about injuries. Like,
it's the offense right now that is doing a lot of the work for
a lot of these teams. Now, Jordan Love has shown he can transcend
the scheme if it's not there. He can identify pressure pre snap. But
so this is always what I say when people say, oh, the second
year regression is coming. The tape they get to study him. Okay,
I understand that in the second half of the season, and there was more
tape on Jordan Love. Top ten and EPA per play against the Blitz top
ten and EPA per play against man coverage top ten, and ep per play
against zone coverage. He was a top ten quarterback against anything you wanted to
do to him. The Bears are an execute our defense, cover three,
cover two, cover one team towards them. The Vikings are a psychosis defense.
They are an absolute chaos defense. We might be playing we might be
dropping eight, or we might be bringing eight. You don't know what we're
doing. Torch them. The Chiefs blitz heavy man coverage team. Jordan Love
played awesome against them. So it's just it's one of those things where you
go, Okay, I understand why you would say that, and I understand
like the hesitancy after just half a season, but when you dig into it
and you look at okay, they they played every kind of defense you can
play, and some really good defenses Pittsburgh, Kansas City, Minnesota, who
was a better defense before they played than after, in part because of what
the Packers did Dallas. They scorned forty plus points on the road against Dallas
in basically everyone's first ever playoff game. I think that has to count for
something here. So this is this is I think it's a harder thing to
punch holes in than most players after one year, just because of the circumstances
around him and then the kinds of defenses that they did face. He really
did check every box. Yeah, and I think the one thing that got
Lions fans really riled up was you're saying they have a better overall roster,
and especially when you look at offense. I would agree, I said it
earlier. Easy disagreed with me. Other people in the chat disagree with me
that I like the Packers wide receiver room better than the Lions wide receiver room
per se, like one through four, I think you have more talent than
we have one through four, but obviously all Pro. You've got the other
weapons on this team, like like guys like Jamir Gibbs, who speed up
puts him as a better running back per handoff than Josh Jacobs, David Montgomery,
another thousand yard rusher, and Sam Laporta, who is also a rookie
and was the second team All Pro. So I just did this experiment with
with Matt Darry Arpowet locked on Lions. I'm on ros Saint Brown. If
you're gonna if you're gonna pick receivers. The number one pick is I'm on
Ross sant Brown. I would argue the next four guys at least that you
would take ore Pockers, Come on, I love the next I can see
the one being Christian Watson. Jamo easily three or four. We're talking about
twenty five catches he's got. He's got three more career touchdowns in two seasons
than you and I, guys, twenty four catches last year, like Romeo
Dobbs more productive, Christian Watson more productive, D'antavian Wicks more productive, Jane
Reed more productive and less action though he had the suspension the injury of the
year prior to that. That's true. I'll be on it as someone who
loved Jamison Williams coming out and was very annoyed when the Lions got him because
I was just like on that fast track, like that's gonna suck. I
don't like that he has way underperformed expectations, and I don't know why at
this point we would have like a lot of confidence that it's going to change.
I don't know that we've seen real progress, like you guys tell me
as as people who study this more closely than I have as an outsider,
I have not seen a guy who has made significant improvements in terms of like
traits, skills, actual receiver play. Like he still has the physical tools
he's got. I think he's explosive this, but do you think he's a
materially better route runner? Is he materially better in traffic? Is he materially
better after the catch than he was? He's gotten so much better. I
think, to jump at you, it has well. Towards the end of
the season he did and it started changing. And even you watch the FC
Conference Championship game too that we were in that you guys, and obviously he
saw the end of round he got the poll there. He's done it once
against the Vikings two like get a couple of all hands cut. The reason
one of the reasons I would take Jordan Love over Jared Goff is just he's
able to make off platform throws. He's able to make play their throws off
schedule, and I feel like that's where Jamo would thrive. We've had to
learn how to utilize Jamwa to his best ability as well as him just kind
of coming along and just like learning how to run routes versus just straight go
because he has that speed to beat. But it's shown like if you were
to watch like the back half of last season, Jamo has been He's grown.
It's one of the reason we probably didn't bring back Josh Renolds. They're
very different players though, right like, and I think that was part of
why I was I was saying, and this was this was sort of where
this conversation started for me, was I was looking at Okay, the Packers
had some obvious needs going into the off season, safety, linebacker, non
premium positions, but but those were the two biggest spots. They threw a
lot of resources at those spots. Zavier McKinney, high end free agency,
they did. They dropped three safeties. Well we'll see if those guys are
good, but but they allocated a ton of resources there. Linebacker, they
go back to back on Day two, second round, third round. Did
I love the Tyrone Hopper pick? No, I love the Drink Cooper pick,
especially after trading down. I man, yeah, I like that kid.
I hated it. And so if you like Jack Campbell, it's really
hard to not like Drean Cooper right from a prospect standpoint, Like that's they're
they're very similar players. But so the Lions, I felt like they had
three big things heading into this offseason. Corner, a secondary pass rusher,
and another receiver not past not to pass catcher because Sam Laporte is awesome.
Another receiver corner, no doubt, like they brought in Terry Arnold Nis Rayshaw
junior. Like those are real guys. Meet Robertson, but he's got to
stay healthy. Emanuel Mosley's got to stay healthy. Like those are guys who
you're counting on to be to be real impact players for you that in year
one, especially with these rookies, I don't know what you're gonna get.
But again, Packers they did that with linebacker and safety, so I can't
discount the rookie part of this. You lose Josh Reynolds and now I guess
you're just counting on internal development from Jamison Williams and Khaliff Rayman, who's what
in year eight, like on his seventeenth team in the league. Like,
I just I don't see that being a path forward for that offense. Maybe
it's more action for Jamier Gibbs, which would be great from a football standpoint,
like get him more touches in the passing game especially. I would love
to see that. Not as a Packers fan, of course, but like
in a vacuum, I'd love to see that. And then like the secondary
pass rusher again in the draft, where where was that guy? I was
waiting for them to take an edge rusher early in this draft. I just
don't see it from them. And this was a team in the second half
of the season, from like week ten on it they were thirty first and
EPA per played defensively, it was a really bad defense in the second half
after started out pretty strong. The run defense was good. Alee McNeil is
a monster. I love the addition of DJ Reader, but I don't think
that materially improves your pass rush because on third and ten are Alie McNeil and
DJ Reader are going to be on the field at the same time, Like,
can you have two three hundred and forty pound guys rush the passer along
the interior? I think on first time those guys are good pass rushers.
I don't think on third down those guys are good pass rushers. Aliam dropped
the weight to try to become more of a pass rusher, and last year
we saw that kind of payoff where he was getting sacks. I think he
had five sex like McNeil, I don't. I don't want to make it
seem like I don't think he's a good player. He actually did a podcast
with Chris impact pass Rusher the same way. And I do want to mention
one thing before we get off the topic of weapons, because how you mentioned
the Lions they got the one wide receiver and then you gave the Packers the
next four. Well, if we're talking about strictly weapons, I'd give the
Lions the four top weapons between the two teams. Looking at Aman Ross,
Saint Brown, Sam Laporta, Jamier Gibbs, and David Montgomery as guys,
I would take over anybody off of that Packers off David Montgomery. Come on,
he had a thousand yards last year, he had ten points. You
guys on Prime Time six hundred years. Did you see what he did to
the Packer? Because he is is David Montgomery the same guy who's been one
thousands and plus yack every single year he's been in the NFL. It's not
been good since Rich Shermer was the defensive coordinator. Like, it's not impressive
to run against the Packers. Everyone runs against the Packers. Did you see
the playoff game in twenty nineteen against the forty nine Ers when Jimmy Garoppolo attended
nine passes? Like, I get it. Dave Montgomery is a nice a
nice player. He's a he is a nice running back. Look, I've
lived this life. Bears fans tried to tell me David Montgomery was the second
coming of Walter Payton for five straight seasons or four straight seasons, and then
the Bear said bye, and then he went to Detroit and they decided this
is why I think the Jumior Gibbs thon is so funny. They give David
Montgomery. You know, you can look it up. Four hundred carries,
three hundred and fifty carries, something crazy. He's a totally fine, passable
running back. He is mark Ingram to Jamiir Gibbs, Alvin Kamara, and
and that think about those Saints offenses. That's a really good one two punch.
But if you extra kate David Montgomery from that situation with maybe the best,
probably the second best after the Eagles last year run blocking offensive line in
football. David Montgomery is just a guy like if you take David Montgomery and
put him with the Vikings or the Bears. We saw him with the Bears
wasn't very good. He went pose yards every single year he was with the
Bears. He was good, the Bears weren't. This is a guy who
last year, on two hundred and nineteen carries, had one thousand and fifteen
yards, compared to Josh Jacobs, who the Packers brought in to be their
guy at two hundred and thirty three carries only having eight hundred and five yards
so to per carry. Basis, he's a better running back, and that's
splitting a backfield with an explosive rookie that they put in the first run bat.
Also, that is also with the second best run blocking offensive line in
the league versus maybe the best offensive line are the worst offensive line in the
league. Full stop in Las Vegas, like he averaged four point six yards
per carry with the Lions last year before that in Chicago behind a mediocre offensive
line four yards per carry, three point eight yards per carrie, four point
three yards per carry, three point seven yards per carry. You running backs
are so much a product of what gets blocked for them. He is He
is the prototypical. If there are four yards there, I will get you
five. Like that is what he is. Jamir Gibbs is if there's four
yards there, I can get you forty. That's a different type of player.
Now the question is can he take fifteen, eighteen to twenty carries a
game. I think he had. I think he had more than fifteen carries
twice last year. Like that's the question. I think what Sjamir gives is
what can his workload really be? But Dave Montgomery is a fine passable running
back. I wouldn't I wouldn't take him over Josh Jacobs. I wouldn't take
him over Jaden Reid, wouldn't take him over Christan Watson, wouldn't take him
over down Tavan Wicks, just because running backs are so replaceable in general.
Like I didn't love spending fourteen million dollars on Josh Jacobs. Yeah, he's
one of the five to eight best running backs in the league. Is he
someone that makes a true difference? I don't think so. Like I think
there are there are like two running backs in the league that make a difference.
It's Christian McCaffrey and then like we'll see b Jon Robinson and then like
everybody else is like that's how it works. It's not that important a position
to me. I don't think that makes that much of a difference because it's
such a product of the offensive line, and the Detroit offensive line is is
really good in run blocking, Like they maul you, they come after you.
They they kicked the Packers ass in that Week four game on Thursday night
in the trenches. Absolutely took it to them and and that like that's a
credit to Detroit. But I don't think that makes David Montgomery a good player.
He's not come. I wouldn't say he's like that. He's definitely good
though. He's fine. He's fine. He's more than fine. Like I
said, he's a guy who said over a thousand all purpose cards every year
he spend in the NFL if you're gonna, if you are powering and the
weapons. But at the total touches numbers, he got fed touches in Chicago,
he got fed touches in Detroit. He does not produce above and beyond
what is blocked. If you look at the rush yards over expectation, he's
he's always been very bad in rush yards over expectation. But he's always played
for the Bears. But it's about expectation, Like if you've block four yards
and you get three, that's bad. See, I'm not worried about expectation.
I'm worried about what happens on the field, like when he's out there
running the bard and he's great detect. I understand what you're saying, and
I get it. But if we're trying to talk about player quality, the
expectation matters. Like if if the offensive line blocks you four yards and you
get three or you get four, you're not changing the game. You're not
adding value to your team. Now if you get six, that's what Aaron
Jones did, that's adding value. I just don't think he adds value to
this team. So that that's where I'm like, you have to just take
for granted that I don't like David Montgomery as much as you guys aren't.
I didn't like him on the Bears either. I didn't like him draft either.
People thought he was special. Pre draft. I was like, I
watched him and I was like, I don't. I don't see it.
So I've just never been a David Montgomery guy. So that's just like you
can say it's a Lion's bias. It's not. It's a David Montgomery bias.
I just don't think he's a special player. I've never thought that outside
did Montgomery. Who are taking five weapons out of both teams just drafted?
Now, how many do we get to a Packer or three at the very
least, it's it's probably it's probably Gibbs Laporta and Amon Ross, Saint Brown
and then I But but then I think, like, yeah, who is
the first Packer off the board? I would say Jaden Reid and that's not
until I noticed before the season, I would have said Christian Watson invites it.
But then I I think I can. I think I can make a
reasonable case like the next six players are Packers because I think there's four.
I already told you I think there's four receivers. And then I I both
of the tight ends for the Packers, like as good as Sam Laporta was
last year, and he was, I'm nervous from Musgrave on it. Luke
Musgrave led the league in passer rating when targeted by a tight end, and
Tucker Kraft led the league in yards after catch per yeah, per whatever it
is, yards after catch per attempt basically for tight ends. And if you
look at what they did in sixty six, I think it's sixty six catches.
It's either sixty six catches or sixty six targets. They had over seven
hundred yards, Sam Laporta in one hundred and twenty targets. It was eighty
more targets to have like one hundred and twenty more yards than the Packers two
tight ends combined. For so, like, I think the tight ends are
really good or can be really good, not they aren't really good yet.
And then Josh Jacobs, So what did I say? That's seven guys before
you get to the next lion. So then it becomes a question of what
are you value more. There's no way. I'm sorry, there's no way
your ticket seven guys over David Montgomery and Jameson Williams. There's no way.
I mean, I just told you. I don't think David Montgomery is like
I think he's a replacement level player. And Jamison Willis has twenty four catches
in the NFL, Like, what do you want me to say? You
want to talk about I don't know that. I don't know the epas for
Jameson Williams. But you're using epas in an argument. I be huge something.
Every time he touches the ball, he scores a touchdown. He's got
three career touchdowns receiving. Yeah, the guys, the guys are monsters.
Five touchdowns. Jaden Reid had eight touchdowns just last year. That's his regular
season, don't you you are you are thinking of what the idea of what
Jameson Williams can be. That's what isn't that what estimated averages is. We're
assuming what they're gonna do. I'm assuming he's gonna take a big jump and
be that weapon, but he hasn't done it yet. You thought that was
gonna happen this year and it didn't. Like we all thought he would take
that second year jump in year two, he didn't. Twenty four catches in
year two. That is that is bad. That is way performed. Like
the future draft capital to go up into the what top fifteen to draft Jamison
Williams. You expect that guy to be a one A one B type player
and he has twenty four catches in the season. I understand he got suspended,
but like he had more than I was just looking at the numbers.
He has more than two catches in the regular season two times in his whole
twenty twenty three season, including the playoffs, two times he had more than
two catches. That is a replacement or sub replacement level player. Like,
I don't know how you argue that's not If you average two catches a game,
you are a replacement level player. And he didn't even average two.
So like, if you look at the whole the whole season, he's got
some nice splash plays and has done in terms of pure production. Nothing nothing.
I think you missed the second half of last year for sure. Well,
I was moving on from that game. I just told you. I
just told you the numbers he had he had five catch against. Context always
matters to the numbers, right like like also limited action though also limited action,
injury, suspension, injury again like, it's also the context. These
numbers always always who are you playing in these situations? Like it's jamo,
I promise you I wouldn't. I'd be willing to make a bet right now.
I would. Let's make a jersey bet. What packer jersey don't you
have that you want? I mean, I'm not I'm not really a Jersey
guy. But let's let's do it for my son. Okay, shout out.
I'll do the same. I have a son to do. We'll do
kids. Jordan love Jersey Okay, Okay. In exchange, who I'm want
for the line get it should be David Montgomery if you guys think he's a
superstar. Let's do Jamior Gibbs for for for my son Bryson. Okay,
what's what's what's the over on your here? For Jamison Williams, I'll let
you make it. Don't go crazy. Why don't we do Jameson Williams versus
a Packer receiver? Okay, which one? I bet Jamison Williams will be
the number two receiver on the package. I'm going to make it to number
two receiver on the Packers yards. He's making, he's making, he's making,
he's writing checks for your back. Yeah yeah, oh, I would
chill over there. I was gonna say that earlier. All right, Packer
statistics, I know your leading receiver have a eight hundred six hundred Yeah,
I think I think Jayden Reid had like eight hundred and thirty three yards last
year or something like that. Okay, uh Romeo Dobbs last year had six
seventy four receiving yards. Is that fair? Okay? Do you want to
you want to start there? Is that too low for you? Because you
admit that too low? You make James over under at six seventy four or
six seventy five and a half. But am I saying that it's Romeo Dobbs
gonna if Romeo Dobs has more? Do I win the bad? I don't
know. Yeah. Should you just do it per player? That's why I
think we should just player for player? All right, for player, let's
just do like Jamison Williams against you want to pick Jane Reid, want do
Dobbs. Dobbs was like your receiver too, or Watts. I mean I
could make on Watson missus and missus. Some game helped me out with that
one. I fight Dobbs, your receiver to jam was our receiver too.
I'd be going to go like that. See, I don't think. I
don't think Dobbs is a receiver to I don't want. I don't want to
make it seem like I like I'm I'm ducking this, But yeah, I
just I know he was my targets last year. He was actually receiver one
by targets, But I just like I watched the team every week, I
don't think that that's what he is. Yeah, so that's why this is
tricky for me. If you wanted to Watson Watson total yards between the two
of them, let's do it, Watson and Jambo's total yards handshake. I
think, yeah, I think I think that's a good that's a good one
because both both guys have missed a lot of time, very similar skill sets,
like big expectations, So I think I think that's a fair I think
that's fair. You know what, Can I switch to Brian Branch though for
the Jersey if I win? Yes on, because like we sniped him from
you guys. But real quick, I've taken up your time, and I
really do appreciate this. This has been like honestly, I had a blast.
It's spent great. But I guess the NFC North this year, what
do you see happening one through four? I already have money on the Packers
to win, So let's like start there. People say, oh, I
bet he bet on whatever, Like no, I'll show you. I'll show
you the Fandel slip. Like I have the Packers to win I have over
their win total. I regularly bet on them to win the Super Bowl just
because it's fun to do. I think I think the Packers win eleven games.
I think the Lions win ten. I think the Bears win eight and
the Vikings win six. And I think both the Packers and the Lions win
a playoff game. You got spinning already explode over here. This guy is
tame. Yeah, I think I think there's some regression coming. I think
there's some regression coming for that offense, is what I mean, like from
film or what like? Why regression from who? Because I don't believe in
Jamison Williams, and I think that they did not upgrade that receiver. Spot
know, if they make a trade in the middle of the year for like
you know, are they make a trade in August for Courtland Sutton like you
know? I reserve the right to change my mind on that. But I
think they got I think they got a little lucky last year. I think
the defense is not as good as it was the first half of last year.
And when you have to rely on rookie corners, you're just like even
when rookie I have a bit that most rookies are bad. Even if they
turn out to be good players. Most rookies are bad. And so if
you need Terry Arnold and n Strakestrawf to play meaningful reps for this team,
that's a problem like that. It just at corner, especially like corner is
one of those spots where rookie corners are almost always terrible and not just like
not not good, They're almost always bad. And so that that is that
is what I think, and I think there's I think there's some aggression coming
for this offense. I don't think you can smoke and mirrors it that much
every year unless Ben Johnson is just him, and maybe he is, we'll
see. I'm interested to see it. You're too good though those rookie corner
but it might not even be starting week one because of Carlton Davis, who
we traded for from the Buccaneers. And then the addition of a meet problem
is four games before he separates his shoulder, and then turn Peter Matt,
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We got a long summer, Yes, sir, sure, appreciate you so
much. Thanks. Oh he was ready explode. I was. I'm not
gonna lie that. The regression got me. But it was tough because,
like you got to like, this show is tough because the segment, Yes,
we have to go to breaks and stuff like that. That could have
last forever because it was just because every time yeah, yeah, and he
feels the same way when we like, we saw the same in his eyes
when I said, David Montgomery of like, so yeah, it's good.
It's great to have different I love it was kind of crazy. I'm not
gonna lie. I mean, he's got numbers because there's always contexts these numbers.
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kind of I'm a little nervous about that bet whoa only because if Christian Watson
stays healthy, he could be their arguably wide receiver. One. I got
a question to post you guys coming off that back. You guys fired up
for this Packer match up for once? I am oh, I can't wait
for I can't wait for our defensive line to dominate the Packers over line.
Yeah, that part that that's the that's the thing. Peter obviously as well.
Research when comes to stats just so much context missing, like with the
Lee McNeil stuff. And I'm not even trying to shut up pe. I
appreciate coming on and I love to get like camp me and covers the R
team exactly. I couldn't tell you that, you know which one of their
guys lost twenty pounds of you know, pass rush this year, But like
Alee McNeil did that, there are expectations for Lee mc neil beyond just us
locally here in Detroit that covered Detroit sports though. You hop on Chris Long's
podcast, they're talking about it. You hop on our guy Trevin Sikama and
their podcasters, they're talking about it. DJ Reader and Alie McNeil him talking
about who's gonna be on the field and third down. Both of them yes
that that DJ Retor remained on there third down with the Bengals and Leaves can
do the same here. Leaves will pass the rush. I'm sorry, rushed
the passer. That was weird and rush and DJ retors to eat box and
then a guy we need to discuss speaking about that, the defense Ada Hudson
benefiting from Djbder as well. I just didn't talk about the return of James
Houston, or you're two guys like Brian Branch and Jack Campbell taking leaps going
forward. But and he kept bringing up the youngs, like relying on the
young corners. I was like, Carlton Davis is brought in here to be
our number one. Me Robertson was brought in here to be a dog,
Like, we don't need these two young corners to step up. I don't
talk to me about him. But Brad doesn't trade third rounders for fun.
Yes, like he thinks Carlton Davis is that dude, and so should we
I. I you know what, whoever put it uh easy, as I
guess TJ is it easy? Should have let him talk you and to read?
Actually it was. I think we read on Watson watch. Should let
him talk you to I'm just substitute Watson. I had four receivers over Jamie
Dobbs. Should have been good. He's absolutely right. We have put four
receivers over one guy. I should be able to say any one of those
guys and the bathole's true. But I took it as a W when he's
admitted it, though I should have actually getting the W. Definitely, I
think you're still going to get the w dude. I really think jo is
bigger next year. You gotter be fucking right. You better for maybe me,
just just a couple of days ago, just a few days ago,
this man that's saying that chair right there five to seven or so goes,
I don't know. Jamo is the number two, and now he's got a
couple of weeks so a couple of days go. And that's an event that
we drafted a wide receiver and we did it so easy. I think the
thing with the bet that will hold up, it's the total yards. I
think Jamo absolutely crushes on the ground this year in big spots, big plays.
We've seen it before. I think Ben Johnson gets him more involved,
and we've seen his comfortability with golf just grow so much in the last like
back half of last year, starting like that Denver game I remember specifically,
I think we're going to be set here. I think that's a locked easy.
I like the bet a lot. The stag. He pointed out to
me that that was it. Jos No only two cat or more like only
having two of those. We knew that though, yes, we talked about
him getting more touches, right, But my thing is this year is like
I expect the exact obviously, I expect like only two or three games this
year where he doesn't have two or more catches like I think. I think.
And I'm not saying he's gonna have eight catches, you know, every
game. I'm not saying that by any means. But he's gonna get consistently
three, four or five, like six catches, six catches a game,
like. I see that as a very real expectation. I would average probably
like four catches a game f him this year, I think. And the
one thing that really got me when I almost started yelling when other than the
regression, is when he said smoking mirrors about the offense. Yeah, yes,
he's an offense. It is as like it's not smoking in your mouth,
line it up and running down your throat for four quarters. If we
have fields over yeah, we have the ability to do that. We also
have the ability of playmakers to go on the outside to make these over like
it is as little smoking mirror. I don't know if he's saying smoking mirrors
because of the and different things like that, but this offense is come,
come and see us, and we're gonna fuck you up because they do it
in multiple different ways. And I really wish I could have brought up the
tight end room last year without Sam Laporta and how just tight ends eat in
this system. So the smoking mirrors think, I'd be a little bit not
gonna lie because this offense is as cut and dry as as it gets when
it comes to They're a good offense and they can fuck you up any way
they want. I would it be nah, all's fair in love and war.
Would it be distasteful of me to have to clip them saying the four
receiver thing and then clip them back and out of the Dobbs part of it?
No, I don't think so. Ah, yeah, that's what we
do. I am a little nervous about that one. I'm not gonna lie,
yeah, because I mean it is it is for receivers, but at
the same time, any one of them could become one. He made that
point with Watson right like you said the whole like E p A are the
speaker. I don't care about the environment, honestly, I mean he said,
yeah, but he backed on Dobbs immediately. He was their wide receiver
one last year, and he wouldn't have taken Wicks either, So those are
two guys he wouldn't take over taken Oh god, e Potson was actually a
scary one to pick as balls. It's fine, I believe in nine games
you're like four and twenty two yards. Yeah, and let's not forget when
the Packers did beat us on Thanksgiving it was the third game in eleven days.
Well, yeah, that's not let's not forget that when they came in
here, miss Livnier, was it Yeah, to rush from the interior like
they did in that game anymore because Kevin Zeitler is gonna put people in headlockedris
wasn't Watson's like one hundred of his yards against us? Didn't he have a
hundred yard game? Watson was stupid, I know in the very because yeah,
there was that stretch obviously where towards the end of season where everybody was
getting one hundred yards or more on the on the lines. I thought that
was one of Watson's games. So so if you're taking away that ninety four
yards, seven targets, five cats yards, one touchdown, but I know
you had that big one just to start to start the day, ripped the
fifty yard fifty yard bomb, and that's when I was like, oh fuck,
I'm okay. Well, you know, George Love, you can't be
doing this all game. It persistent. Actually, the second half line slowed
thing down. I think people like dismissed that because of the abuse we took
in that first half, But the backers really didn't do it in the second
half that game, which is a nod to our coaching and making the adjustments
to prevent that. Whatever they may have done, I know AG likes to
ship on adjustment conversation a little bit there, but it did obviously change something
that second half. What you just you just gotta you gotta start jerking off.
You're so distracted this week specific you know what, let me hit that,
just RiPP one out in the bathroom real before the show starts. Uh
no, but I respect Peter for what he does dangerously horned. But man
and the the SPIPA and the epostats and then you did it, by the
way, I did shout that was nice, got it snucky and greed.
He was like, yeah, but the epistats how it's like estimated based on
average, and then you can't project Jamison Williams being better than what he was
because you haven't seen it yet. Yeah, that's that that that I a
get limited action. Yeah, like you bring up these numbers and it's great
context, but you also like two touchdowns. Yeah, it's just a single
playoff game against the forty nine ers, which is also like a pretty damn
good defense. And then yeah, in the context, is just like him
missing games and having to get in that and sync with Jared Goff like we
saw it in the back half of the season, and I I like,
I totally Like I said, I respect Peter a lot for what he does
because I know he's saying the same things about us right now. It's like
these stupid motherfuckers think Jamison Williams is gonna be a dog. They think David
Montgomery's gonna be something special, like Alie McNeil, Oh we lost some weight.
Who cares like it's it's that's what it is, Like you said,
It's that's how it is with the rivalry. And I'll never say the Packers
are better than us ever again for the rest of my life. Man,
Jami lets me down, I might turn the flannel sam On, He's not
gonna let you down. I have a lot of faith in Jameson Williams.
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to five to two six three two two. That's three one three, five
to five to two, six three two two. Give us a call and
if we can't get you on, scream and yell cuss words at Nick because
it's all his fault. It literally is all's fault. Do you see Zay
Jones signed with Cardinals today? Yeah? Yeah, I feel boy that.
You know. It's not the worst thing to miss out on. I don't
think say Jones isn't like a world beat or anything, but it would have
been a nice depth piece for sure. And Brad Holmes all started. Brad
Holmes although he said, like you know, he's happy with the guys they
have and they're gonna work as internal growth. He also said it's not like
we're not gonna try to sign other guys in his quotes on ninety seven one
yesterday. So they're definitely looking for a piece. And like I said,
I wouldn't be surprised if it's a post camp cut. So whether it be
one of those guys from the Titans, do you are you do you think
it actually happen or do you think we're hopeful? I think for me personally,
I'm gonna openly admit that I'm just hoping it happens. Yeah, I
mean, do you think it actually happens? All right? I feel like
I'm more just trying to speaking into existence. I mean, it also does
make sense though, like if a veteran guy gets cut and it happens every
soon year, guys just like, hey, that guy's for more Pro Bowl.
These guys we're all pro, but his contract is hitting the litter.
Years he gets cut, they want to go win somewhere, you know.
I mean, Kevin's likely a perfect sample of that. I think it can
happen by him. I am more hoping. The thing that worries me about
it is that wide receiver is such a demand, so it's like it has
to take an extreme scenario for a team to want to get rid of a
wide receiver, because, again we've talked about in the show, you can
never have too many of those guys, Like, yeah, if you have
those guys, what do you mean by that? Do you mean? But
those wide receivers are very valuable and what you would like to obtain. I
can't say wide receiver. Yeah, why did I say with the heart?
Yeah, I use the herd r bro. I'm not very uncomfortable now,
that's all right, Lines, lines are open. Come on, people,
What do you got to say about the pack? What do you think is
more of a need though the Why was your position or edge position? I
think it's edge. I don't know. I think it's the same same spot.
I think you're in the same spot with both because you've got a good
rotation of pieces for the edge, like my guy Matthew Betts, obviously,
Marcus Davenport, James Houston coming back, those are solid pieces you can rotate
on that other side. But new coach of the Suns. Yeah, actually,
after saying it, it's edge, I think so too. Just because
of defense the offense you have confidence that's still going to operate supremely. It's
the defense where you have questions. Yes, so I'm with you. I
think it is the edge position. I think we're straight at the defensive tackle,
which was like my number one. Oh, we are more than straight
at defensive tackle, especially with that guy they signed Kyle ko. Yeah.
I don't even he makes a roster. He started thirteen games for Tennessee last
year. He's making I would bet he makes the roster over Levi. I
agree to. I see some people kind of like, I don't want to
say, hyping up Levi, but speaking on him as if he's gonna maybe
it sounds very dispective. He's gonna have to he's gonna have to show out
to make the roster. Yeah, screen record this for for freezing call takes.
But yeah, I'm I agree, I'm with that. I think I
don't know why people are having expectations for him. You've got four spots locked
at defensive tackle right now with Wingo, Martin and obviously Reader and Alam,
and I think this guy they brought, uh sorry, what is Kyle Kyle
Pico Pico, Yeah, Peco. I think he's going to be pushing Levi
for that last roster spot and I would not be You already know Treel Davis
likes him. He likes Treel Davis's style. He started thirteen games for the
Titans last year, so I would not be surprised if he takes levi spot
mistake a graphic underneath the button. And the good thing is we won't have
to see Tyson. We won't have to see Tyson Tyson. I'm saying,
like you're bringing in a guy like that, like we're now finally like we
have depth for the first time in a long time in that spot. Yes,
yes, yeah, as long as he your reader, which he will
be healthy by at the beginning of the season. But as long as you
can stay healthy, that defensive line eats. But obviously you be a little
more comfortable. The interior defensive line is gonna be nasty. They're gonna have
a rotation of guys that are angry, aggressive and play very well. And
the main reason I want another and we're not. We haven't no way in
hell that you're gonna have faith in Davenport given his track und we haven't talked
about Josh fucking think that this kid's gonna stay healthy majority of the season or
just just put that much faith in it happening. It's just insane to me.
We haven't talked about Josh Pascal or John Cominski at all either, two
guys that can play both positions into your and Josh still a young guy who
continue to kind of grow it there as well. And we talked about how
Josh is the type of player that Trell Davis likes the mold and get his
hands on. So I guess I don't draft on needs, that is what
he answer. But I was gonna say it is the fact that they were
rumored obviously to take Darius Robinson if they had stayed at twenty nine. Does
that Does that change your mind at all? That actually know it wasn't gonna
trade Hut for Darius. That change your mind at all? On Pascal,
there's more a bp A. It's bp A. I knew that was a
guy they loved in the versatility like they drafted Wingo as well as a firsatile
guy who they'd like his ad rushing upside. It's all about So Yeah,
I'm not I'm not mad at that at all. Yeah. I hope the
gadge and whether it happens to training camp or it's the Chase Young piece that
I wanted last year. Like it's yell, David, I did actually have
something in here, man, I will do it. I had something in
here because I had this genuine question and I should did it. Yesterday upon
the news of like uh him saying that he wants to re sign off the
highest priority with people that are like JG's top five and you know that section
of fans. Yeah, if you were, what do this deal have happened?
That's kind of what it's. I know they were saying it on ninety
seven one a lot yesterday that that's kind of what Brad Holmes like made it
sound like that it's like it's on him. Yeah, like they put it
on the table, it's on Golf. They're trying to get it done.
Yea. They gave him the deal, they've been trying to get it Done's
actually a great yeah. Yeah, like if it was if it wasn't on
him, Brad Wood he came out and said that, you know, they're
ongoing, uh ongoing discussions, we're trying to get this done, blah blah
blah. But he said, like we hope we can sign him. We
put it out there. Yeah, And then I guess that goes for like
the fans, it's the years. He'll take less money. He's a team
guy. I don't think that's the situation. Clearly, otherwise he'd be signed.
I think it's the years. I don't think it's the money. I
don't. I really don't think they're going to be gridlocked over a two million
dollar difference. Like, I don't think that's what it is. I think
it's the years. We got a call who we got Nick? Very special?
Caller shout out, gun guy? Take your pants out? Okay,
where's he? Did he see it? I don't hear him? Should be
what the fuck? Damnit? Nick? You got so excited? Can you
hear me? If you hear him? We can't. Can you guys hear
him? No? We can, We cannot. How about now, gun
guy? Nope, nope. I try to more things, So just mess
with it while we're talking. If we hear them, we'll just yeah,
care on that conversation. Yeah Kee pressing buttons just don't turn us off.
Somebody asked him over sports chat. They said, easy, what about that
rookie comment? Which I was really excited. I know. I don't think
we've ever called in before. People are calling in. We just can't figure
out the phones right now. He died call, so he took his pants
off, bob himself. What was I talking about before? What were we
talking about? Jared Goff? Oh, the JG stuff. Yeah, the
deal is not getting done. I think I think that just misses a lot
of the narrative that one people say is take us, which we already knew
was kind of bullshit anyway, Like when people would say that the way we're
hoping for our training camp cut to come, that's the same there's Yeah,
there's no such thing as a hometome. Yeah, it's is wild. But
anybody you well, he clearly not valued at in the way he thinks he
is. Yes, like he obviously thinks he's valued at something higher if this
something isn't done. And that also helps out your boy here and the arguments
hop and make all right, he's in the best position to do what he's
doing. What's his boning off his mind? Yes, but it's a position
where a lot of these human beings that play that position almost swear thrive.
They would thrive. And that's okay. I have two plus thousand yard rushers
from scrimmage. Yeah, Ejamier Gibbs and Dave Montgomery. Every quarterback that has
that behind him is probably gonna win some game, probably gonna do pretty well.
Let alone does that. I do gotta. I gotta call him out
by name because I like his work. I'm a fan. But Rico a
ninety seven one to Day was talking about, uh, how he he like
loves God. He thinks the Lions golf more than golf needs the Lions.
And he's talking about how not a lot of guys can do this, and
he's a forty nine Ers fan, and so he was like, look at
the forty nine ers, dude, that's what I swear to God. He
was like, you bring in brock party because Jimmy Drew Garoppolo couldn't. Jimmy
Groppolo got you to a fucking super Bowl, the same thing brock Purty has.
Like, what is Brock Purty done? That's so much better than what
Jimmy Garoppolo has done. It's the same exact fucking thing. Like, that's
the forty nine Ers are the example you're shouldn't be arguing. You shouldn't bring
up at all, because it's the example that proves guys can get plopped into
that system and do fucking well. I would have called it and shout a
hat on top of his head. What an awful, awful, awful fucking
take to have as a forty nine ers fan. Absolute utter garbage. Can
you guys hear a gun? Guy? No, Nope, let's go to
break. Every time I press on there he goes out. It's gonna break.
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Bro. All right, I have a little bit of a concern and I
can continue to pick on your guys with a g stuff. I'll wait till
Monday. Monday's a lot more people in here. I watch the phone lines
are working in. I would like to hear what you guys got to say
on that one. Not Allion's hater you guys. Obviously, I'm alliance fan.
And it's not a concern. It's more so a question because what are
the expectations hearing? Are they elite? Because I I don't I'm not comfortable
setting that for Damn sure you're one, but I just mean overall, obviously,
I think you'll contribute to us winning games. But more specifically, the
things that I was looking at is I asked you Lucas top five cornerbacks in
the game. Yes, I'm sorry, it's in history. Yes, in
the NFL chat if you listen, if you're if you have a keyboard in
front of you, type in the top five cornerbacks today. Whenever I did
the same today. Ask you guys as well. Common theme with a lot
of those guys, fast fast, fast, fast forties reves four three eight
four three eight exactly. I didn't know that in I didn't say to him,
I had Oh fuck, if you're sure, sure wasn't that fast?
But sureon played zone heavy. Yeah, we are not unless we're gonna stay
in that man' zone split. But obviously AG's voice in his opinion that he's
not in love with that style. He'd rather go man Arnold's forty or five,
four or five flat. But I haven't found anyone the closest one.
I think I think I found a few four fours. What was Rake shows
rak Is Shaw? I think he's a four or five as well. At
least he had the foot injury. That is a great point. I'll counter
you by saying, how fast does Brown Branch look on a football field,
Bryan Branch exactly. Difference is therefore he's playing the nickel he's playing. I
mean you heard Alexgelone. I think we played on this show like his roles
kind of roam around, do whatever. If he's gonna play the outside cornerback
position again, not I'm not tripping. I'm really not. My My question
is, though, will we see Sauce Gardener? I mean, speaking of
when, what's his forty Sauce? I don't know what was Charles Charles Woodson's
jay z yep, just what I was getting to four four four for Charles
Woodson still not the four five. Frank Shaw ran four five one. Remember
he did have a footage and Champ Bailey was a four to eight. God
damn, That's what I'm saying. Obviously, Deon Sanders, yes, is
like another four to two guy. Let me look at I'm actually kind of
curious. Santa's forty time was for yeah, four two seven, like not
tripping again. But if we're gonna be in this man heavy scheme, even
a g fast forty, I'm just looking for names around that four or five
area. And I get it's not all straight forty time, but obviously those
guys are tremendously faster than our guy. I think it can work in the
Richard Sherman situation, but that's not what we deal with on defense. It's
not AG's philosophy on defense. He likes the man situation. We've been in
man zone in the past two years. Because that's what it's the vegetables he
had to work with. Would you find Sante Samuel ran a four or five?
Are you sure? Four four nine, four four nine for Sante Samuel
senior not junior? Oh yeah, four four nine was gonna. I was
gonna look up, not him. I can't speak to his own or man.
I'm appycure he was many man, for sure. He's with the Eagles
back then, NA be awesome. It was a four four five. Antonio
Cormardi was a four to four seven. And you said Arnold comes out,
I mean point zero three faster. It matters his difference, not really,
there's a difference between a good run and a bad run. I bet if
you brought Terry On Arnold out here right now, he could run a four
four seven. But he also didn't do his prota. I think his proday
ran a four five as well. Well, what's his name? I'm not
tripping, I'm just asking, like, do you see it being elite?
That's all I do. I can see it an elite as long as he's
utilized the correct way. I think he's got the hips cline m chanistry.
Four four seven. It's a blazing four four seven. I mean, I
remember it's being discussion around him too at the combine, but obviously the tape
is there. It's just Headrick certain is a four to four to two.
He played man in Alabama though, so there there's that. He's got great
hips. He's obviously got it between the head. Every time he's asked,
the question refers it back to, you know, working hard or winning the
damn Super Bowl. Yeah, what's the chat saying what we got? I
mean I already actually know what the chats saying. The same people said Jagof's
top five, they're gonna tell me he's All Famer. Just what I'm gonna
read it anyway, BB Yeah crazy if we allow ten seconds for QB to
throw, Yes, a slower quarterback needs quarterback needs safety help. That's true.
I've actually really ever agree with Apollo. I usually definitely. Yeah,
guys, sorry, the phones aren't working, so it's not it's all mixed.
Go ahead and pin that number, Chris. Yeah, you can just
look like Nick Eggs at this point, Nick broke the phones. Oh yeah,
real cup energy had full lines all football season. Fellas never had one
issue. Oh yeah, yeah, Nick sucks. Yeah, I'm smashing like
one for Nick's last day. Yeah, with twenty thousand people watching cooking,
cooking under pressure, but with what's going on right now, my fault.
I'll take it there. Nick, Let's go happy Friday, have a great
weekends. Fellow's stay safe. It's my last yo cup TJ says. He
said, it's all the hips and the hips, it's all shot out it
hims. I don't know where he's at, but all in the heaves.
Yeah, listen, that's another I'm just excited to see him play. I'm
I need it. He is so bad. I need it like oxygen.
But honestly, dude, I need the Lions to have another fucking lockdown cornerback
so bad. Like it's so important. It's so important in this NFL to
have a lockdown cornerback. What good team doesn't have one? Madavious War for
the Niners obviously gets Snead and McDuffie. I think is McDuffie's better. Yeah?
For the Chiefs, who was else? Marlon Humphrey. For the Ravens,
Eagles got no one. I mean Slay and when they were really good,
Slay and Bradbury both head locked. So I saw people a lot of
people bitch about the playoff thing that was flown out there. Fox NFL prediction
not tripping, don't give a fuck, just a prediction. But people are
sleeping on the Eagles. In my opinion, the Eagles. I think the
Eagles are going to be a lot better than they were last year. DJ
DJ Cooper de John just at the safety spot on Mitchell when Mitchell yeah,
I mean, then added Bryce Huff. You got Vic Fangio and Kelli Moore.
I think they grabbed the linebacker two to finally, because the guy that
we almost made thirty thousand dollars off of being drafted in the first round but
did happening, he's not showing up. Yeah, and NI Kobe Dean,
Yes, he ain't really doing it there. They very clearly missed TJ.
Edwards. Sure shout shout out Apollo in the chat. Hear me out.
Could it could be a good thing that the scouting report says, throw it
deep Ontarion and Branch, Yes it could. You got Kirby Joseph playing center
field. Like I said, I think Kirby Joseph is going to lead the
league in interceptions next year. And there's a reason for that. They did
not draft the linebacker did they sign? Oh no, they didn't draft Jeremi
Trotter, which actually do like like Jeremi Triter for them a lot. Yeah,
they got Trevor Eagan. Yes, and they actually had a really good
draft the Eagles always had. I not too familiar with Hunt On, a
Houston Christian, but obviously I like I like Cooper Gene. I've been records
saying he'd be in All Pro the safety position. Jeremi Trotter, I like
the guy sandwich in between there. I don't. I'm not really familiar with
Hunt Shipley, but jeremih Trotter, Apollo Apollo and the wilverd sports chase.
His game forced bad passes deep from opposing offenses. Kirby is about to eat.
Game plan could force bad passes deep from opposing offenses. Uh, Kirby
is about to eat. Uh? Just a fan, easy now you love
c J. G J. I've never said he was a bad player to
they's cancer said he's the worst safety ever. I just said, I don't.
I don't think he was actually like a true leader. Uh during that
that situation sign and I don't think that he's five guys. Devin White was
a free agent. Devin White was a free agent. Yeah, what,
we don't need him though I loved him coming out of the draft back in
the day. But it's not. This isn't the Devin White of Super Bowl
winning team. He was. Devin White was bad last year? Yes,
there you remember remember? Actually, like Summer came on and told us,
like, he's not good anymore. That's what I say. There's actually conflicting
sides of that. Like there's some people who said he was bad. There,
some people said he was good. I mean their podcasts, one of
them too. I didn't watch stank. I love those guys are awesome.
I'm going on there next week. You want to come with me. Let
me see what day they said we should wear suits and do step brothers.
I'm down, or like, I'll just sit behind you and then yeah,
every time he's so funny. Honestly, I'm down. That would be funny.
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uh mail bag, Spencer, be honest, you were about ready to
cost Peter out, aren't you? Not? The show guys? I was.
I was about ready to yell at him, not gonna lie, but
he was turning around. I was, yeah, dude, Like I said,
the smoking mirrors stuff got me, the the regression stuff got me,
and then I forget what stuff James and Williams stuff Yeah, I take four
receivers over. Yeah that was pretty wild. Uh. Mail bag from the
away fan who needs it more? Lions need a lockdown cornerback or the Wings
need a number one centerment Also, it would be an honor Nick. You've
done a great job. Good luck with your next game. Good luck,
Nick job. Definitely Detroit Lions a lot closer to a championship and the Detroit
Red Wings are. I agree, and I think the Red Wings have a
potential number one seat in their system right now. Away fan, keep on
that fat Hog spirit brother, Fat Hog Spirit mail bag. We're you gonna
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there a go fundme for poor little mentally disabled kid you had on the show
earlier? Yes, it's actually you can directly venmo spendmo racks and all proceeds
to buying food and beer. If you don't have Vemo, I gotta hit
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to Luigi Gaming. Um, I think I saw another one, but you
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again update International Ice Hockey had America versus Sweden Sweden one five three, Raymond
with a nice goal. Yeah. And Raymond is also an alternate captain on
the Swedish team with Charles and had Carlson and headmen. The fact that those
three were in that picture, Bron, it's crazy. Like I said,
Bro, he is a superstar. Like we we watched the birth of a
superstar. He's getting back in Sweden like Carlson and had been. That's that's
huge. This dude. I fucking love Ken kell Man. Ken kell is
the goat, Ken Daniels. I'm sorry, Ken Kells also the goat we
said we were gonna talk about earlier. Legitimate, actually do it. I'll
do this one in the mailbag real quick too. What two teams do you
think will be worse NFL and have a vacant head coaching position for Ben Johnson?
That's just that's I think. I think Panthers could for sure do it,
but I don't know if he gets fired. If he does, that's
lunacy going on, and that couldn't be the Bills. This might be Sean
mcdermot's last year for the buff Bills, don't seems as a top worst team.
But yes, I definitely if stuff doesn't go well, it's a great
that's probably the two Panthers Jets. Paul Thomas, Yeah, dude, it's
crazy. Went to see Rams Bucks twenty one? All right? I had
a mailbag for the completely forgot, So let's throw up the NCAA photo.
Oh yeah, sir. I wonder if the I like that bridge by the
way, I wonder if the song is worthy of this song off Vultures?
Is he worthy of this? Now? It should have been It should have
been Cornelius Johnson. It's crazy, not Cornelia Johnson, Will Johnson. It
should have been Will Johnson. If it was gonna be a Mischian guy,
yes, no, they needed to be a Michigan guy. They definitely needed
to be a Michigan guy Johns, but it should have been Will Johnson over
over Uh, you know what. Edwards showed down the championship game though,
I will say that, Yeah, and Will Johnson's a lock to be a
top ten player, but it's just the fact that he plays cornerback. I
mean I just listen. Yeah, but he's like the face of like,
you know, Buffalo Right now, he's gonna be so he's gonna be He's
gonna be better than what he's gonna be. They asked I. I was
listening to a podcast and they said, are you gonna throw Will Johnson at
offense this season? And uh, it was a hard pass, but that
would have been That would have been sick though, to see him that there's
your different than Sea Woods in role, Travis Hunters enough an athlete that he
could do that, and they actually he played Travis Hunterson'. I also was
looking at Edwards Heisman bets because without Blake Corn, that dude's gonna be getting
the rock like NonStop, especially in that offense. If Alex Org can't throw
the ball, they're just gonna be feeding Edwards. So yeah, it's a
it's a long shot. I think it was like plus five fouls. Maybe
I didn't take it, did not take it. Sky Ogre says, oh
no, Edwards has the Madden curse. We don't know. Does it work
that way with I saw I did see the Aiden Chiles alternate love that probably
gonna get that one. The Aiden Chiles alternate cover, speed of alternates graphics.
I'm coping the coldest in the fucking game, all right, Tarnold got
announced number zero, dude, shout out, Yeah, graphics. Roman is
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Yeah, dude, Roman Roman is a Roman. Fire asked got if
you got and he does like one off too, So you want something one
time for yourself? Sure for sure, Tattoo hit him up. I remember
he uh might hit him up run next year during the Fantasy U. During
Fantasy last year pre like right after the draft, I tried to trade for
Elijah Mitchell because I wanted Elijah Mitchell really bad. Yeah, and or this
was two years ago. I tried to trade him, uh, Josh Jacobs
for Elijah Mitchell. Yeah, and he didn't do it. And then Elijah
Mitchell got hurt like week two, He's like, you still want Elijah Mitchell?
I was like no, and then Josh Jacobs that is Josh Jacobs fucking
like MVP season higher upside in Fantasy Gibbs or Jacobs this year, Gibbs gips
Gibbs y PPR Hooker's not getting traded. Oh wow, he said to Ben
Johnson's new team. That's actually Nard Robinson fell off after he was the cover.
It said three one three Kurt. Yeah, but he was kind of
got figured out. I mean he was kind of fluky anyway. But mail
Bag, how many draft picks will we get? We trade Hooker to Ben
Jonson's new team. I don't think trade Hooker. I mean, what did
well? Lance was a top ten guy, so never mind. Yeah,
that changes it. That'll do it for us today. Appreciate you all tapping
into the woodward heavyweights sports. Make sure you smash that light bulbs more easy
for Nick, for Chris, I'm spending. Have a great weekend, Stay
safe, see you guys on Monday. Peace