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I'm okay. I just smiled another
to in the face. Y she want

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to stay singing to your beach that
gout with don't just try to tell me

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you love me. You can't keep
it. Really, if you really don't

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trust me, you come with a
real get up in the front so you

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get my meals. I'm conning for
the money, money in the bank.

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Come on with a dank screla tank
rolling with the gang. You sitting on

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the sideline the triple, I go
to the whole with the rock light peppot.

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Yes, I'm okay, what up? And welcome to it whatever Waight's

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a lot more sports dot com I'm
easy. Joined by overhack, who said

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those are you young Chris Nicholas,
It was for sure, let's go.

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Let's go smish you like but friend
telling friendship the stream Cappy Friday to those

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of you who got the weekend off, I'll be working firstly at Suburban Ford

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and Fergum. Makes sure you come
through. Check it out. Shout to

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my guy Darryl, shout out sold
my first used car. Shout Darryl came

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through. Shout out to Koonan,
I'll be there tonight. He'll be there

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tonight he hosts a tournament. I
also want to shout out, I'm just

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going no tournament. I'm just going
to drink. So come buy me a

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drink. A drink, but real
quick before I get him away for somebject.

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Shout Sammy shout. Derek. Probably
close that deal. First used one.

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Let's go buy your cars from easy
roy Brother, give it out.

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First first person to buy a new
vehicle. Get a jersey your choice.

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Speaking of jerseys, you see the
numbers. That's in the numbers. I

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did I think I put the number? Oh yes, yeah, we got

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the rookies announced what numbers they will
be wearing for next year. Harry On

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Arnold with number zio. That's that's
all. You know. You say you

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pick zero, sess the amount of
receiving touchdowns. He's gonna give up because

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ain't nobody like me. That's bar
Is a dude. The kid talks choppy.

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I fucking love it. Yeah and
it. Tray Shaw with fifteen,

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Simonvaki with thirty three. Those fit
pretty well. I like those, Gievanni

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Manu with fifty nine, nice,
Christian Mahogany with seventy three, wrong number,

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and Mkay Wingo with ninety four.
I think those those are all pretty

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like I none of them are bad. Those are those are all good?

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What's the trash number? So I'm
gonna be ask you. I'm not a

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fan of the number fifteen, EU, they're outside of zero. They're all

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kind of you. I'm not gonna
lie except for you. I think thirty

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three is good for backy, thirty
three, ninety four is good. But

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I'll tell you what I'm working on, son, Chris, something right now.

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No matter how you feel about the
numbers, it don't matter, Josh

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be says, and says he chose
fifteen because that's all that was left.

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Damn. Yeah, that's tough for
a second rounder, actually, Chris,

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I just I'm gonna send you in
this on his number choice. But uh,

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zero, honesty's the only cook one
out of the bunch, honest.

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And maybe ninety four for Wingo ninety
fourth though I like that. Seventy three,

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that's a good offensive line number.
You're right, seventy three with that

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thirty three for Vakky, who's gonna
be a guy that does it all?

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I don't mind that either. I
think it was pretty good. Fifteen was

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Golden Tate doctor clapping cheeks yet,
so I think receiver. I see fifteen,

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I mean we may not like that. And thirty three, I guess,

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yeah, he is a running back. Yeah, he's a running back.

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He's his safety. He's gonna be
doing a lot of different stuff.

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I don't think thirty three is that
bad. Do we have a video for

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Minis Rickshaw? Chris, let me
see? Is that the one you just

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said? Yes, sir, oh
no, give me two seconds thig?

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Yeah. So I don't I really
don't think thirty three is that big of

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a deal. Like it's a solid
number for a guy who's going to be

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doing a lot of different things.
I think that, uh, he should

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just I don't know what what number
would you like to see him with,

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faky kind of like a single digit
or something like that, like maybe some

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unique I mean thirty three, I
guess is unique. But I think of

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like a defense I guess I see
thirty three, which I guess he is.

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He's gonna he's gonna play defense too. He's gonna play defense. He's

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gonna do a lot of different stuff. So that's why I like thirty three,

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because that's a number that can do
a lot of different things. You

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can play defense, you could be
a running back, you can do a

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lot of different stuff on special teams. I don't think it's too bad.

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I just want I think thirty three
I think of like a bigger human,

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you know what I'm saying. I
mean, he is pretty big for a

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running back. Ass like six foot
six foot one or something like that.

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Look big. I really want to
see my defense. Is that is that

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weird to me? My only one? I don't think it's that weird.

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Like I want to see on defense
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out there and make some plays because
that's what he is. He's a playmaker,

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so it's not like he's gonna be
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why I like thirty three. Yeah, I guess I'm not tripping, like

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really, it's just a player that
makes it. Now we got to do

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do it for mines. Facer Straw
that was speaking about his choice number choice,

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and uh, actually gas, I
love this response, Chris. I'm

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happy to be a lion. It
was good to be out there. Number

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fifteen, number fifteen. It was
the best available. It was number fifteen,

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number thirty three or whatever. I
chose fifteen the number don't make the

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player. The player make the number. So I got a job to do.

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That's that's a bar for sure.
And that's why I'm not tripping.

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Honest, I really, I really
don't think the numbers are overly sexy.

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I never really care too much about
numbers. But there are numbers that do

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look sick. I got that.
Yeah, maybe it's from players that we've

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watched in the past. I don't
think fifteen looks that bad. Are you

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guys saying fifteen looks bad? I
haven't seen a defensive back. I think

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that's what it is for me.
Well, I mean, Nick, well,

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you have the numbers. By the
numbers, by the numbers. I

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mean, I tweeted out, got
no love, but Terry on Time shoutout

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dame a little dame time, you
know, doing the clock. I think

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when fourth quarter comes around and the
other team's trying to make a comeback,

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I think that's when Terry on Time
actually comes around and maybe gets a game

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winning interception, sorry, game ceiling
interception. Sorry, No, don't make

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Terry time thing. It makes me
think of Dagger time, and I don't

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sure that does why. Yeah,
you know what was cold and I gotta

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give my guys some some props because
he gave us a bunch of names that

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day to the Tongue and Tower of
Terror. Oh yeah, l yeah,

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sub zero, sub zero, Yeah
i'd lose. Yeah, Bro, that's

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that's dope. Yeah, that's number
zero's Yeah. Sub zero is one of

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the best Mortal Komba characters as well, so all day. Yeah, that

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still sticks though for fourth quarter him
making big place to stop games. That's

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what I like about Terry. I
think he's going to make a lot of

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plays, especially in the fourth quarter. With other teams throwing the ball a

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lot, I think he's going to
be able to exploit that. So he

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says number one. Who is it? It's Marie Exander. He's got number

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one, which if he doesn't make
the team, you better believe in his

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right show is gonna grab that.
He should like, see you like one

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better? Fifteen Yes, for sure, exactly. I mean, I don't

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think one thing is a weird number
for dB. That's all it is for

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me. I'm not tripping over the
numbers of beings with you. But all

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the twenties are gone. There's no
numbers in the twenties. I'm not the

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check the Lion's roster right now.
Actually, there's gonna be who's twenty one

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now that Tracy left twenty one?
Can you do something? Man? Maybe

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he's coming back real quick too,
Just Tase Davis took twenty one. Obviously,

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yesterday we were talking about having Peter
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us today at five thirty. I've
seen he's blocked uh quite a few of

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the bulge Army. Yeah, he's
been. He's been blocking the bulge.

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Blocked our girl, Katie, bulge
blocking. Yeah, blocked our girl,

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Katie. He's blocking the bulge,
and we're just gonna have to address it.

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We're gonna try to bring peace and
I'm gonna pump out some SPEPA stats

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and see how he agrees with you
do it? I want to do it?

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Yeah, Okay, I'm geek.
Oh, I'm gonna say the speep

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of projections. Just Jamior Gibbs having
being a top five back in the NFL.

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I wonder like, when do we
do we do it? Off rip?

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No, it's gonna be like right
in the middle, Okay, right

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in the middle, or just like
because he seems like very pro packer.

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Yeah, I don't know, what
do you think, I mean, obviously

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does I'm gonna say, like,
uh, Jamire Gibbs. Spepa stats have

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him ranked over. We should just
Sayosh Jacobs PIPA and the ship on a

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packer player like Speapa says Jordan Love. Actually, like I'm gonna say,

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Speapa says Jamier Gibbs is a better
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than Josh Jacobs. I mean he
is. I think let's not give up

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all the Let's not give up all
the m out here. You know he's

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not watching right now. I gotta
I gotta told me text him, uh,

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just in time from the come on
so he hopefully you get a little

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bit of Bulls Army in here.
Maybe read some fan questions you guys have,

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question Peter, I really hope because
I know how, at least specifically

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the Bull's Army they droves exactly.
So like, I really hope he's able

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to set the because sometimes I get
pissed off, I'll just say some ship

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to piss off the other side.
Like that's what I do with the Jared

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Goff stuff. We know. So
I hope he's not in that mode.

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I hope he's able to give us
some non By. We had him on

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already once and he was good.
So yeah, he whispered not byas for

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that one. Yeah, and we're
the ones talking ship and then we got

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to yeah last time the messaging back
on. I saw our last message and

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it was a ha ha from him. Yeah about that choppy. You know,

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I don't know if we'll get again
because I'm pretty sure he heard afterward.

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But Cox Sports, I remember that
guy, Cocksports Bears. I'm pretty

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sure yeah, yeah, I mean
yeah. The thing is if they don't

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return off the because we saw what
the call him on Twitter from yes,

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Peter's last name, I wonder if
it's like this brings back like high school

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memories or something, you know what
I'm saying. They have two easily names.

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Yeah for sure, Like definitely got
bullied in high school, but we

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are cock Sports. That was funny. That one was funny, and we

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we did it immediately after the interview. Yeah, so like I'm pretty sure

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heard he definitely heard it. He
was still on the line. I'm sure

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what you know it is? What
it is was funny and fuck the Bears.

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Dan Campbell not at Rookie Mini Camp
this year for personal reasons of hope

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ball as well with him. Oh
shure, Yeah, praise to him and

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his family. Hope everything's going well
for mcdc and his fan. Oh,

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we have no number one at least
not on the Lion's website yet. I

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just see number two. Hennon Hooker. I'm pretty sure, Maurice Alexander said,

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so, he's probably got it for
camp. Yeah, not gonna be

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official. Roster. Zero's on here
for Terry On Arnold did within number one?

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Yeah, Terry Arnold's gonna make the
roster. It's fair. Trey Kuan

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Smith number ten? Wow? Really
it is Maurice Alexander on there at all?

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Because I remember that was the whole
thing, is that he got number

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one and people were pissed off.
Okay, he is going to be number

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one just because Marie Alexander his former
numbers fifteen, which is now yes,

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yep. Let me check the twenties
though, so twenty was available, twenty

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two was available, what twenty five
was available? What come on? Duduis

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my shoes? Carlton Davis, Carlton
Davis is I don't know, how do

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you find it? Well, Carlton
Davis should have took should have took du

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to dou you should have took one. Did they announce his number? I

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don't think they twenty three, twenty
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This thing's obviously we should have took
duce. Douce are twenty five Carlton

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Davis because no, uh, and
it's Rickshaw. Maybe maybe there's a reason

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nine fifteen is not open. Yeah, we'll see, we'll see. But

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again, hit the bar where it's
not the players something number that makes a

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player. It's a player, it
says pretty sure. Twenty two is retired.

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Mmm, and so it's twenty Actually, twenty is definitely retired. Well,

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if it's not, nobody takes it
on purpose. Yeah it should not.

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It's definitely retired. Nobody should ever
wear twenty or eighty one for the

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Lions ever. Again, speaking of
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before we get too far from it, unless you want to say for the

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end of the show, twenty two
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Okay, n cublea cover came out. I know twenty five is not retired,

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so twenty five is definitely cool in
fifteen All right, now, you're

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good. Who's twenty five? Well, I know THEO ritic War twenty five.

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Oh yeah, didn't never lost in
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he might have been twenty four.
Who cares. Yeah, I know

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it's not retired, and I know
it's cool in fifteen, so it is

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cool in fifteen either way. Do
you see the n C double cover?

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Do you want to save this for
the end of the show. Yeah,

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I saw it. Well, we
can put it up, throw it out,

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throw it up. I don't know
if you've got it. I mean

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it makes the ncaa football cover.
Wait, you said, I said if

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I thought I did, I mean
I'm working. Yeah, Donovond Edwards is

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in the middle. I mean I
was cleaning up poop and puke, so

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like I was having a dude,
I just because I knew. I knew

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something happened to I just because last
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Nickless, call off, Let's go
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Tell a friend. Detroit Lions opened
up rookie Minnie Camp today. Got to

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speak with all those guys. I
actually every single draft pick. I'm pretty

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sure I spoke with the media today. I want to do this one as

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people funnel win though, because obviously
think the hot topic is what Terry On

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said. Yes, do we save
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right away? Or do you want
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talk about the Johanna manuwe stuff.
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Chris, there is another video in
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you want to grab that pretty sure
that's the one he's talking about. Johanni

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Minu. I apologize guys as a
client, regardless he had mentioned that.

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Obviously you're here to talk to him
to playing guard. We all can scratch

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your head, like, yes,
I think he did play guard a little

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bit in college. Obviously, you
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you immediately think attacked. First thing
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training. And the only reason why
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Actually, I think Neil's first want
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days maybe number and a disrespectful way. No, I really don't. He's

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getting up there with the cross training
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line. I'm assuming to take on
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you know, moves on or whatever
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situation, I guess what do you
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me? I mean, if it'd
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play right guard and then just shift
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over, rather than teaching him how
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to do. So if they want
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a hard time believing they see him
as a guard. But I don't know,

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Man, with his athleticism and his
speed, could you think of a

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fucking refrigerator like that, pulling on
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he is our most athletic lineman now, so yeah, over sewell over so

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yeah, No, you see his
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Penny, Like. The guy's a
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don't know, We'll see you.
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size on paper, the first thing
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his athleticism, they might want to
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I just think, I mean,
if you can be a Swiss Army knife

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on that offensive line, I mean, we heard him talk today. This

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guy is so determined to succeed in
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at any point in time a cornerback
or a safety see Manu and Sewell running

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straight at you, you are running
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see what this offensive line will look
like in the future. Honestly, I

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think he can pull it off.
The move to the right side as well.

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Yeah, I said the same thing. It's I mean the tongue and

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tower of tear. You're a right
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too, is as I guess in
camp today, I think it'll listen to

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all of it. But he said
he was comfortable out there. Grand these

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are rookie, so none of these
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outside of Matthew Betts, who he
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I'd have to catch up, you
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I did he felt comfortable today,
which is it is for me, is

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a positive sign. But also guess
what do you expect him to say?

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that's obviously what he's gonna say is that

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he feels he feels comfortable and he'll
do whatever he needs to and stuff like

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that, regular rookie talk. But
I know I did it at a very

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lower level, but I am a
very lower level of athlete compared to these

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guys as well. It's not that
hard. They actually like members. But

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it was like, when when you
be able to do that, he should

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be able to do It's it's not
like they need him to jump in and

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do it right away. So learning
that other side of the line should not

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be too tough for him. What
do you make of do you think the

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reason why it's disguised, and maybe
it's not disguis's guard. Maybe they actually

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you want to play guard, or
just so he's They cross train a lot

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of people. They love the versatile, they really do. I mean they

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had done it with multiple people now
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Remember Nelson. It made him from
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Like I think, there's cross trained
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you have Skipper playing guard in different
games exactly. It's yeah, big body,

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big bodies. You want to get
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possible. And that is true too
like Dan Skipper if he's playing guard,

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the tongue in power Tower can play
guard too. Like Skipper's not a small

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man by any sense of the meet. He is a giant dude, So

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I would not be surprised. Like
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I think about it of why they
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athleticism, because of his speed,
and because of just him being a freak

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of nature athlete. That getting that
guy out in space in front of your

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running backs in front of your wide
receivers, throwing blocks like that, motioning

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him, moving him around. That
would make sense to me. How do

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you How do you guys feel about
pro day numbers in general? Though?

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Like, do you think I mean
obviously because athlete, you see what he

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is on tape, like moving at
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I mean me personally, I like
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a little bit that the more they're
less efficient, they're flubbed a little bit

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for sure. But did you see
his pro Day and how many people were

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there, Like, they're not going
to flub that. Guys that are or

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eleven teen or something. Yeah,
guys that are there from other teams aren't

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gonna flub the results. You can't
flub the results of a vertical jump you're

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doing in front of thirty people.
You can't flub the results of thirty people

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having stop watches while you're running your
forty. Like, yeah, the team

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will boost him up, so maybe
he ran a five oho one instead of

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a four nine to nine. But
like I this guy pulling if he fans

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out would be terrifying. Yeah,
dude, that's what I see. Absolutely

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like that man being a lead blocker
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I think a big reason why,
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spot too, is because Zeitler's on
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and he's up there in age,
so I don't know if we extend him,

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and then you guys already brought it
up. Decker he's on the last

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year as well. There's a lot
of moving parts in this offensive line,

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so if he can do multiple things, it makes him even more valuable,

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especially at that size. If he
can move the way that we think he

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can, you need to be able
to do multiple things. You need to

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You look at that and basically every
guy on our offensive line, except for

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the guys that Brad Holmes didn't draft
or re sign, are able to play

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multiple positions on that offensive line.
You look at the only ones who really

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are stuck to their positions and don't
really play anywhere else Taylor Decker and Frank

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Ragnow, but Frank definitely did play
guard. Yeah, he played guard as

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well too. They signed Graham Glasgow
because he can play both guard spots and

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the center. We know Penney Sewell
can play both tackle spots. They got

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a guy in Christian Mahogany who could
play both guard spots. Like It's I'm

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not worried about it, but they
do love the versatility for all of their

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players, and that includes players on
the offensive line. He's gonna be dog.

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I don't I don't mind it either
way. I guess I don't really

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necessarily want to paint it as a
Tailor Decker thing now too that I've just

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realized how many people they have played
multiple positions. I mean, even from

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a guy Rocky both offensive in defense. I don't know what's gonna been kept

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Will Harris here for like six years
because you can play every position, playing

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linebacker in full back. I just
mentioned Skipper. They had him at Garden

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Snaps. They have met tackle who
put him at tight end. We had

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a running back back there too.
It was a former defensive back. He's

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on a team. Yes, Yeah, they move everybody around. Yeah.

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Actually Jared Davis. Jared Davis,
who's our full back. Jason Cabenda linebacker

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fullback. So actually, I'm not
gonna paint that as a riding on the

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wall for Taylor Decker. They just
he's just literally being cross trained to play

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the NFL. Yeah, get him
you got. You want to get guys

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like that out there as much as
you can, So the easiest way to

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get players on the field and to
have your guys play is to make sure

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they know how to play multiple positions. Look at our secondary. Everybody in

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our secondary can play any position in
the secondary. So when you have the

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versatility to move people around like that, you can put your best players out

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there at all times. The only
reason why I had it Peg does like

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him to take over the right tackle
spot. Well, not the only reason,

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but another reason why too is you
also have Mahogany, who I believe

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severely underrated in this draft class in
terms of like how the guards were taken.

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That he plays that right side of
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Yeah, I feel like obviously that'd
be a more seamless transition. And

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then trying to get this guy to
learn right guard, I feel like he's

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just learning the right side of the
line in general, because he only played

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the left, left guard and left
tackle. However, just the other side

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of the line, speak of guy's
playing multiple positions, I'm gonna just tease

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that one Tara oh Man. When
he gets that Mike, he he's the

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electric I just don't. I don't
know if it's like off the cuff where

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he's just calculated like that, He's
just he's who he is. I think

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that's who he is, and I
think that's why Brad Holmes Day Campbell fell

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in love with the kid. I
have this question, but I guess back

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to the offensive line, who do
you think would see I don't even want

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to say this because it would obviously
mean like an injury or something like that.

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Not like that, just in the
terms like their careers. Who do

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you think makes the start first?
Between Mahogany or Manu Mahogany. That's what

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I'm meant too. Everyone kind of
knows minus the project. I cannot wait

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for this season. Nick, say, somebody goes down like maybe a Glasgow

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for a game or something. Do
you think Mahogany's like NFL ready where he

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can make a spot start kind of
like we saw sores Dell do like a

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year one. Yes, and you
think he could be good like I think

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he Yeah, I think he better
than So. I think he'd better than

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Tale as well. Is that crazy
to say? No? I really don't.

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I don't think so. I don't
think so. The tape suggested that,

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yeah, the level of competition,
the level of competition he was playing

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was higher than when Soresdale was playing. Yeah, Soresdale played left tackle,

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then got moved to guard position like
it's his natural position. It's not.

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It's really like a again, the
most seamless move is him to right guard.

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In a situation where Zitler retires,
Zeitler might not retire either's once.

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Dude, I got a mute Keys
for a little bit. Why would he

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do. He's just being annoying,
just hating ten minutes brother, come back.

406
00:25:37.160 --> 00:25:41.720
Yeah, having a day. He
didn't know. He's just it was

407
00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:45.440
the same ship he's doing yesterday,
the same He's just trashing Brad Holmes,

408
00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:48.920
trashing the draft picks. Like,
get over yourself, man, Keys,

409
00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:52.519
I'm sorry. It was not my
not my decision. Oh yeah it was

410
00:25:52.559 --> 00:25:56.880
me. It's it's just annoying,
Like, I don't know what you want

411
00:25:56.880 --> 00:26:00.759
to do. You don't have faith
in Brad Holmes yet, I know you.

412
00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:03.519
You slobbed here golf more than anybody
else. I thought you were joking

413
00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:06.359
for most of the points, but
like, I can't deal with that another

414
00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:08.359
day in a row. Oh he
was joking No, he's not. He's

415
00:26:08.400 --> 00:26:11.720
being serious. He does the same
thing he said, He's doing the same

416
00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:15.400
thing yesterday. It's just annoying.
Well, let's go to break. We

417
00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:19.000
come back. We got some the
juice anything guys came forward to here for

418
00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:22.039
Charry Arnold. We got multiple clips
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444
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will be joined by Peter Bukowski talking
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445
00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:32.319
of you guys taking fan questions talking
to mc north. But before that,

446
00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:37.759
let's talk about our new shiny toy
Terry on Arnold. Whatever clip you want

447
00:28:37.759 --> 00:28:41.839
to play first, Chris, it's
all it's all cool, it's all fire.

448
00:28:41.480 --> 00:28:45.759
All right, it's the first one
you are going to eat this when

449
00:28:45.799 --> 00:28:49.160
the starting I said, quarterbacks.
Uh, well, first thing first,

450
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:53.160
I gotta bring my brother into the
cut. They dragged both of us,

451
00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:56.799
so I would say, us just
coming in here and being the young guys

452
00:28:56.799 --> 00:28:59.880
and the dynamic, we're gonna be
here for a long time. We're gonna

453
00:28:59.880 --> 00:29:03.319
go together, we're gonna sell together, take our losses together, take them

454
00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:07.559
on the chin. And I just
in an organization for drafting both of us,

455
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:11.160
my brother right here. Now,
I got a question out here now

456
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:14.599
that you're a line, like,
what's the first food? What's the first

457
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:17.440
thing that you want to do is
being in Detroit. I haven't thought about

458
00:29:17.480 --> 00:29:22.200
that yet. First thing I wanted
to do is this come in practice,

459
00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:25.119
So I mean that's not the way. Next thing I want to do is

460
00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:27.480
catch a pig six in the stadium. I have one more question. Is

461
00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:32.799
there any new language that you learned
from Detroit. Yet, Yeah, I

462
00:29:32.799 --> 00:29:37.440
gotta go get me some dang man
some uh what's the name of the saves

463
00:29:37.440 --> 00:29:40.319
man. I gotta give me some
of them. Yeah, I gotta get

464
00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:41.920
me some of them. After I
catch a pig, I gotta put the

465
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:45.079
mom and I'll give me some of
them. That right there. Just one

466
00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:48.920
thing because I talked about this year
the day when he did the podcast al

467
00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:51.839
Bama and I texted you guys in
the morning the group chet because I was,

468
00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:53.400
I was, I was just fired
up. Anything this kid's asked you

469
00:29:53.440 --> 00:29:56.079
always kind of reverts it back to
the game somehow, somewhere. I know

470
00:29:56.079 --> 00:30:00.599
if it's if it's calculated. We
were generation that grew up Plane two K,

471
00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:06.119
press A for a teammate chemistry or
press B to Piezer fans. But

472
00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:10.079
like it's this Gas. Every single
time, every question he's asked reverts back

473
00:30:10.119 --> 00:30:12.400
to the game, back to the
practice, even not even the game.

474
00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:15.519
I'm talking about practice. No,
yeah, literally practice. First thing you

475
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:18.839
want to do, Detroit, I
want to get hear practice. I want

476
00:30:18.880 --> 00:30:19.519
to hear good work on my game. What's after that, Well, I

477
00:30:19.519 --> 00:30:23.640
want to get my first interception.
Like as Gas, it makes sense now,

478
00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:27.480
like it makes sense why this guy
was so high on Dan Campbell and

479
00:30:27.519 --> 00:30:30.680
Brad Holmes draft board. It makes
sense why they said they wanted to do

480
00:30:30.720 --> 00:30:34.759
anything, possibly move up to fifteen
to get this guy if they had to.

481
00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:38.920
He is a Dan Campbell Brad Holmes
got. He is gonna fit right

482
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:42.319
in in the locker room. He
is a football junkie. And you love

483
00:30:42.359 --> 00:30:48.400
to hear that. You love to
hear these high talented another Alabama defensive back

484
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:51.799
come in here and be about fucking
business. I love it man. Like

485
00:30:52.039 --> 00:30:55.160
like you said, the one the
first thing you wanted to do, go

486
00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:57.279
to practice. The second thing he
wanted to do get a pick six at

487
00:30:57.319 --> 00:31:00.200
the stadium, and the third thing
he wants to do is get some buffs.

488
00:31:00.400 --> 00:31:03.960
So like that, that's about as
detroit as it gets. I love

489
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:06.599
it for him, man. I'm
excited for this kid and what he brings

490
00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:10.279
to the table. And his attitude
is gonna fit right in. And it's

491
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:12.319
exactly what they look for in a
player. It's exactly what they look for,

492
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:17.319
and guys they want to build this
franchise with is guys like Terry On

493
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:21.400
Arnold. Sorry, playing back in
the chat, I don't know how to

494
00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:25.400
use this ad. So either way, I love it. And in fact,

495
00:31:25.440 --> 00:31:26.720
they brought the teammate into I mean, you don't have to do that.

496
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:29.799
That's the part where I'm like,
is this a show at this point?

497
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:33.640
I'm not used to seeing that they're
also going into like a competitive environment.

498
00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:36.759
But they're alsoti just teammates in the
day, but like I know,

499
00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:41.920
first day in they both want to
show out Nick. Yeah that you love

500
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:44.680
to see him bring in the teammate. I feel like all the hype around

501
00:31:44.720 --> 00:31:48.279
Terry On ring strass almost getting like
a little slept on all of a sudden.

502
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:49.400
I don't know, that's just me
how I feel. But when it

503
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:52.559
comes to Terry On, you can
tell that he spent all those years at

504
00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:56.880
Alabama. When it comes to the
media, he's savvy with it, but

505
00:31:56.039 --> 00:32:00.400
he adds the extra sizzle, you
know. I know you got have all

506
00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:02.799
been talking about it, But it's
the aura of this kid. Yeah,

507
00:32:02.920 --> 00:32:07.160
Like it's special. Like every time
he opts in front of the microphone,

508
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:10.559
everybody is listening to what this guy
has to say because something special and a

509
00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:15.119
sound bite's gonna come out of his
mouth every single time. So shout out

510
00:32:15.119 --> 00:32:17.559
Saban for obviously teaching him how to
deal with the media shout out him and

511
00:32:17.559 --> 00:32:22.279
his personality and his confidence for making
it a little sizzle too. I gotta

512
00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:23.880
be honest, like, when it
comes to it, I think it's all

513
00:32:23.960 --> 00:32:27.079
him. I mean, I love
Saban and they get there's a lot of

514
00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:30.079
media attention that Alabama. But like
we have Brian Branch from Alabama. He

515
00:32:30.559 --> 00:32:34.279
really liked that. You know,
Jamior Gibbs like it's it's it's really him,

516
00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:37.200
the way he carries himself. Yeah, it's confidence about that action,

517
00:32:37.279 --> 00:32:38.319
boss, and about that action.
How many times have we said it?

518
00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:42.039
You need to be confident if you're
a defensive back. We like our defensive

519
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:45.920
backs that talk a little choppy like
that. And we have further are we

520
00:32:45.960 --> 00:32:50.559
doing? Yeah, yes, the
other audio as well. Yeah, this

521
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:52.680
is this is about is Dan Campbell. As it gets right here, I

522
00:32:52.680 --> 00:32:59.559
can literally picture Dan Campbell is saying
this exact sentiment tool anywhere. I don't

523
00:32:59.559 --> 00:33:01.519
consider my off a cornerback. I
consider myself a defensive player. I can

524
00:33:01.599 --> 00:33:05.039
play everyone on the field. I
can even line up and nose guard up.

525
00:33:05.079 --> 00:33:07.960
I gotta line up there. But
I mean playing football is something I've

526
00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:10.119
been doing as a kid, and
uh, like I could say you to

527
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:12.960
say, man, I just I'm
happy to be out here. I really

528
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:22.480
am. A couple more guys spoke
about your mother said no. But again

529
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:27.920
another thing first, chaln bro he
don't care. I don't care where you

530
00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:30.319
put me. I'm gonna figure it
out. We're gonna make it happen.

531
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:32.279
I was watching a little bit of
film, a little I mean quite literally

532
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:35.400
a little bit of film the other
night on him, and uh, he

533
00:33:35.440 --> 00:33:37.119
really did play that that star position
they call in Alabama, which is like

534
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:42.119
their nickel or float around, do
whatever the hell you want. He's been

535
00:33:42.200 --> 00:33:45.720
bred to literally do what he just
said. He means it wholeheartedly. I

536
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:50.039
was even listening to something on the
way in actually Peter's podcast, and he

537
00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:52.079
had Jim Naggy on, and Jim
Naggy is like, yeah, the way

538
00:33:52.079 --> 00:33:54.559
they're like cross training. Actually we
just talked about it actually with Minu the

539
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:59.599
cross training these defensive players more specifically
like the safeties. You can move them

540
00:33:59.599 --> 00:34:01.680
down the line just because it's such
a more pass happy league. Yeah,

541
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:06.640
like it's he's already come in developed
that way. So I because the main

542
00:34:06.759 --> 00:34:08.559
that main question was meant to say, like would you rather play left side,

543
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:12.559
right side, doesn't give a fuck. He can do whatever he wants.

544
00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:15.079
And we talked about it in spades
with this group and what they like,

545
00:34:15.119 --> 00:34:20.280
and it's the versatility. And you
have guys like Brian Branch, like

546
00:34:20.360 --> 00:34:24.239
Carlton Davis, you had Cam Sutton
before he started joking. People like these

547
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:29.239
guys can play multiple different positions on
the field. That Meek Robertson could play

548
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:32.800
inside, can play outside, could
do different stuff. If Emelfabu a former

549
00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:37.400
corner who now plays safety, like
they have guys in this secondary that can

550
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:42.519
do anything, that can play multiple
positions. Because in case somebody gets injured

551
00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:45.400
god forbid, or something happens,
you got guys that you want your best

552
00:34:45.400 --> 00:34:49.760
players on the field at all time. So instead of bringing in a guy

553
00:34:49.840 --> 00:34:52.280
to fit a certain role because he
can only play that spot, you just

554
00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:58.360
rotate your best players and put the
best five or however many secondary members you

555
00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:05.480
have out there at a time.
It's I'm excited for this team. I

556
00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:07.079
heard Braylant talking about it. If
they talked about in the morning too.

557
00:35:07.119 --> 00:35:12.360
The actually brilliant idea from from Broader
to know how we used to buy yourself.

558
00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:15.639
So he's got peaks and cheeks,
and I don't know if it's meant

559
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:20.280
that way, but cool it twisted
the peaks and cheeks that too. But

560
00:35:20.320 --> 00:35:23.079
regardless, they're talking about like Terry
On starting, and a lot of them

561
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:27.400
actually said cheeks, like as in
like sell no, because a guy who's

562
00:35:27.440 --> 00:35:30.320
in town right now, Mick Robertson
again, Guys, I wouldn't be surprised

563
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:35.599
if he is the starter and you're
seeing Terry On bumped into the nickel and

564
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:38.360
branch playing in safety or even at
Ray Constraw playing the nickel, it's still

565
00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:42.039
branched. But I don't think he
gets over Terry I think Terryon's more like

566
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:45.119
ready now especial playing the Alabama scheme. But he could, he could truly

567
00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:50.079
place himself anywhere. Then here's here's
that dog mintell uh. This next clip

568
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:54.920
absolute savage clip or savage thing to
say, especially on the eve of Mother's

569
00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:59.920
Day when that comes from my mom
and my aunt. But to say it

570
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:02.079
time just my competitiveness that grows up
in like my whole family. Like even

571
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:06.440
as a kid when I used to
beat my mom and racing like I had

572
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:08.079
to jainly beat her and we used
to fight when I was younger, just

573
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:10.280
wrestling with her, playing around,
like, man, I'll never forget that

574
00:36:10.320 --> 00:36:13.719
one time my mom kicked my tubac
because we were just going at it so

575
00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:16.320
hard. So if my mom was
out here right now and she lined up

576
00:36:16.320 --> 00:36:20.079
across me as a receiver, I
would jammer into the dirt. That's just

577
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:29.280
that's my mind's and my mom knows
that right now. Oh dog, well

578
00:36:29.360 --> 00:36:31.480
dogs in his mug, All dogs
are on his mud. It's literally what

579
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:37.119
it is. And like I said, that is the most Dann Campbell'sian answer

580
00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:40.599
I've ever heard. Like, if
my mom lined up across from me,

581
00:36:40.639 --> 00:36:45.159
I jammed her into the dirt.
That's what you want. That's the kind

582
00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:47.360
of competition you want. Like,
sorry, Mom, but if we're on

583
00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:53.079
a debate right now, I'm I'm
coming after your spots. Like it's there.

584
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:59.199
There is no love in the profession, Like like Mike Mike Tyson says,

585
00:36:59.239 --> 00:37:00.320
you know, I want to do
I want to eat your children like

586
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:04.280
I'll do. That's the kind of
mentality you have to have to play for

587
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:07.519
these guys, bro. It's it's
awesome what they're building and these guys this

588
00:37:07.679 --> 00:37:13.000
kind of attitude they're bringing around in
fort Field and in Allen Park. They're

589
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:15.800
they're hungry man. They're not taking
no for an answer, and they don't

590
00:37:15.800 --> 00:37:19.599
care if it's Jesus Christ himself lined
up on the other side of him.

591
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:22.440
You know, he's getting clamped down
or he's getting routed up, like it

592
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:25.039
doesn't matter. Shot to his mom
for just I raised him that way.

593
00:37:25.599 --> 00:37:29.360
Like, I've never really heard him
and I don't know what the situation is.

594
00:37:29.360 --> 00:37:30.599
I don't want to like dive into
it, but I've never really heard

595
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:34.079
him speak about his father too much. It's always been like his mother or

596
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:37.239
his grandfather. Shout out to her
for just raising a man, raising a

597
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:39.840
dog. Still. You know,
I guess there's a lot of single mother

598
00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:44.480
athletes out there, but this guy's
mentality is a different and I like it

599
00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:46.039
too. It reminds you of Spinny
when he does talk that shit, because

600
00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:49.320
a lot of it can come off
arrogant, a lot of it come off

601
00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:52.400
as brash. But like, what's
the two things? And this is a

602
00:37:52.440 --> 00:37:54.199
wild example of it because he's gone
off the deep end. But Kanye West,

603
00:37:54.880 --> 00:37:58.400
those are two things you think when
you hear that man speaking arrogant,

604
00:37:58.480 --> 00:38:01.320
brash, But it's also what it
was originally obviously before he started taking the

605
00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:07.639
pills. It was undying belief in
yourself. So you do talk that crazy,

606
00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:08.880
you know. I'm saying, like, like you you are willing to

607
00:38:08.880 --> 00:38:13.280
say the craziest ship because you've proven
to yourself in your life that you're able

608
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:15.840
to accomplish what you just said.
Uh. Same with Antonio Brown. I've

609
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:20.199
I've found that in two is like
he talks wild. Yeah, you hear

610
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:22.639
him saying like, I'm the best
like wide receivers, crazy, let me

611
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:23.519
go. I can still go in
there, play right now. But he

612
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:29.760
proved that. Yeah, and these
are also guys coming from shitty situations to

613
00:38:29.960 --> 00:38:32.480
like obviously Terryon still has his career
to go, but to the top of

614
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:37.320
like their professions, and it's just
that undying belief himself. Almost he even

615
00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:40.880
spoke to this pre draft was like
some people they speak, it's it's delusion

616
00:38:42.039 --> 00:38:45.440
with me. It's not that I've
proven these things to myself some along those

617
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:47.800
lines, but it's it's you believe
it. At least I believe when he's

618
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:51.559
saying it. I'm very curious.
I'm I'm just excited to see him play

619
00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:55.639
me too. Yeah, we've heard
the term so much from our GM Brad

620
00:38:55.679 --> 00:39:00.400
Holmes, it's we don't we draft
football players here, you know, we

621
00:39:00.480 --> 00:39:05.199
draft football players like when this guy
talks like you can just feel the love

622
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:07.840
of the game that he has a
football and it's just crazy that we got

623
00:39:07.880 --> 00:39:13.400
another guy that's just another die hard, Like he's gonna look at you and

624
00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:15.800
he's gonna beat you. He's gonna
win. That's why I believe that he

625
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:19.920
could win a starting job. I
know I was talking crazy all the Pro

626
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:22.920
Bowl, All Pro all that stuff
out during the draft because we were so

627
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:25.119
hyped up or I was so hyped
up to grab him. But that's why

628
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:28.679
I just believe that he's gonna beat
the guy in front of him. I

629
00:39:28.719 --> 00:39:30.280
think he'll beat him out. I
mean, just the confidence he has in

630
00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:34.639
himself. It really shines through every
time he talks. And I can't wait

631
00:39:34.679 --> 00:39:37.880
to see him on the field.
Speaking of the name, people can't wait

632
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:42.159
to see. Maybe not so much
the liance community, but we do have

633
00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:46.119
Peter Bukowski joined the show at five
point forty two. We'll discuss many of

634
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:50.400
the things he's had to say,
including the Detroit Lions as well as just

635
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:55.679
the overall I guess what I'm looking
for status of the NFC North. Yeah,

636
00:39:55.719 --> 00:39:59.079
who's gonna win this year? And
whatnot? He's actually calling me right

637
00:39:59.079 --> 00:40:00.480
now. What if he's having issues
at the text? I'm little know.

638
00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:05.760
I'm live right now, but go
up yesterday. I could situate this.

639
00:40:05.920 --> 00:40:08.000
You don't mind. Uh, yeah, it's I am excited to see what

640
00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:10.599
these guys can do. Obviously,
you've got the two young dogs in the

641
00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:14.360
backfield to go out there and make
in the defensive backfield, to go out

642
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:17.159
there and try to make a name
for themselves in Ennis Ragshaw and Terry On

643
00:40:17.360 --> 00:40:20.880
Arnold, and you know they're not
gonna back down. They're gonna be fighting

644
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:23.159
for every opportunity. So iron sharp
AND's iron. That's gonna bring out the

645
00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:27.119
best in in these guys. It's
gonna bring out the best in the guys

646
00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:29.920
ahead of them because they know they
have to be on their p's and q's

647
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:34.119
because they're gonna be having some young
dogs nipping at their heels. So I'm

648
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:37.519
excited for it. But uh,
if you got young dogs nipping, yeah,

649
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:39.599
you need to get insured. I
make sure you're sure of the best.

650
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from more Rack. What up?
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675
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without further ado, I'd like to
introduce Packers reporter from Lockdown Packers. I

676
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:36.000
appreciate you. There's a million other
things too. Peter Bukowski joined the show.

677
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:39.960
What up man? Hey guys,
Hey, I'm here. What's going

678
00:42:40.000 --> 00:42:46.960
on? How do we number one
of Lion's Twitter as as of a couple

679
00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:51.599
of days ago getting into it and
and the Bulger army coming after you.

680
00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:55.239
Peter, how are you feeling,
man? You know what, I'm okay,

681
00:42:55.519 --> 00:43:02.119
uh, mostly mostly unscathed. It's
funny because this is already where I

682
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:07.360
am with like Bears fans and Vikings
fans, and so to be here finally

683
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:09.400
with Lions fans, it's just it
feels like a normal to me, Like

684
00:43:09.400 --> 00:43:13.280
I'm used to people coming out my
neck and that's fine, Like that's part

685
00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:16.239
of the deal, that's part of
the fun I frankly did not expect it.

686
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:20.960
Like when I sent out the tweet
yesterday saying that the Packers had a

687
00:43:21.000 --> 00:43:23.039
better offter than the Lions, I
did not expect to get the reaction that

688
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:28.559
I got to it. But that
you know, that's just part of off

689
00:43:28.599 --> 00:43:30.960
season content, but also just like
part of the rivalry. And I think

690
00:43:31.079 --> 00:43:36.639
like we're at the place now where
Packers Lions is is a rivalry because for

691
00:43:36.840 --> 00:43:38.840
years, right, like what was
it Like there were like twenty three and

692
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:44.079
four against the Lions for years and
years and years and it wasn't a rivalry.

693
00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:46.880
And you know, I heard from
a lot of Detroit fans lately like,

694
00:43:47.079 --> 00:43:50.559
well, we're four and two against
you, like the last whatever.

695
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:53.960
How many times it's like, okay, so let's let's see let's new era

696
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:57.960
in both places, let's see how
this goes moving forward. I'm excited to

697
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:00.960
see it. I'm excited to see
it too. I'm maybe not as excited

698
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:02.840
because we kind of just got here. You guys could have waited to,

699
00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:07.000
you know, pull out Jordan Love. Yeah, where you at a couple

700
00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:08.440
of years? At least are you
more of a belief of what he was

701
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:12.480
a second half of the year because
we actually just did our all NFC North

702
00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:15.760
offensive and defensive teams. I caught
back last from my very own lines fan

703
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:19.800
because I put Jordan Love that quarterback. I mean, how do you weigh

704
00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:27.679
that Jordan Love versus Jared Golf.
So I think it is intuitive to say,

705
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:30.360
well, he's not what he was
in the second half of last year.

706
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:31.639
That's just like, not the guy
we saw the first couple of games.

707
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:37.559
Except that even if that's true,
when he was like one of the

708
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:39.199
two or three best quarterbacks in the
league in the second half of the year.

709
00:44:39.880 --> 00:44:45.079
Over the course of the season,
just look at the numbers. He

710
00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:50.840
was in the top ten in every
important statistical category. Whether you like the

711
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:52.760
advanced numbers, whether you like the
raw numbers, you like, touchdown numbers,

712
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:57.639
yardge numbers, like whatever you like. He was up there at the

713
00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:01.800
top, and then you see the
high level plays. His ability to based

714
00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:07.159
on what I'm doing as the quarterback
take over a football game, I think

715
00:45:07.280 --> 00:45:12.719
is at a higher level than we
have seen from most, frankly, of

716
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:15.320
the other quarterbacks in the NFC.
If we're like not just NFC North,

717
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:19.960
but like all of the NFC,
and so if you're going to extrapol a

718
00:45:20.079 --> 00:45:22.920
moving forward, you go, okay, if he's that guy, that guy's

719
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:24.400
an elite quarterback. That guy's like
one of the He can be one of

720
00:45:24.400 --> 00:45:27.440
the five or six best quarterbacks in
the league, can be one of the

721
00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:31.159
two or three best quarterbacks in the
league. With that talent and what he

722
00:45:31.239 --> 00:45:39.079
did with all first and second year
receivers, all rookie tight ends, two

723
00:45:39.199 --> 00:45:45.320
new tackle starters along the offensive line, and Aaron Jones missing more than half

724
00:45:45.320 --> 00:45:46.599
the season. If you just look
at raw games played, it's about half

725
00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:50.880
the season, but he was not
healthy even in about half of the games

726
00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:54.360
that he played. He really missed
more like twelve or fifteen games in terms

727
00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:58.800
of what he was totally healthy.
I think that gives you a pretty good

728
00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:04.960
idea of what Jordan Love is.
And I think we forget now the first

729
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:08.440
three games of the year, he
was awesome. He'd lit up the Chicago

730
00:46:08.440 --> 00:46:14.880
Bears, came back from seventeen points
down in the fourth quarter on his shoulders

731
00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:20.320
to beat the New Orleans Saints,
and then it was only a defensive collapse

732
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:23.760
against the Atlanta Falcons in Atlanta that
cost them a three to oh start.

733
00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:28.559
So I think it's easy to look
at that middle five games. You know,

734
00:46:28.920 --> 00:46:32.119
it started with the Lions beat down, and I was dead wrong about

735
00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:35.960
that game. I did not understand
why the Lion was what it was and

736
00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:38.000
the line was right, and I
took a lot of heat on Twitter for

737
00:46:38.039 --> 00:46:43.360
it before and after, but I
said it again before the Thanksgiving game,

738
00:46:43.480 --> 00:46:45.360
and I was right that game.
Like this team is, these teams are

739
00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:49.639
pretty close, and that's why this
is really fun, because moving forward,

740
00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:52.800
I think the Lions are going to
be measured against the Packers and vice versa,

741
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:57.800
and that is a that is a
place guys that I don't think in

742
00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:00.360
the one hundred year history of these
two teams, you can ever have said

743
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:06.199
that at any other time. I
agree. My whole thing about Jordan Love

744
00:47:06.280 --> 00:47:08.519
is that I need to see him
do it for a whole other season before

745
00:47:08.559 --> 00:47:13.599
I put him out of because now
that the league has a year of tape

746
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:16.760
on him, I want to see
how he reacts to sixteen games or seventeen

747
00:47:16.840 --> 00:47:21.679
games of Jordan Love tape being out
there and seeing how the league adjusts to

748
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:28.079
how he plays. Okay, but
on the flip side, what defense has

749
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:31.039
figured out the Shanahan Tree offense yet, like no one figured out Jared Goff

750
00:47:31.039 --> 00:47:36.159
in LA. No one figured out
Jimmy g in San Francisco, no one

751
00:47:36.159 --> 00:47:38.840
figured out even like Baker Mayfield and
Cleveland that was more about injuries. Like,

752
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:43.239
it's the offense right now that is
doing a lot of the work for

753
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:45.000
a lot of these teams. Now, Jordan Love has shown he can transcend

754
00:47:45.000 --> 00:47:50.360
the scheme if it's not there.
He can identify pressure pre snap. But

755
00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:52.119
so this is always what I say
when people say, oh, the second

756
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:55.800
year regression is coming. The tape
they get to study him. Okay,

757
00:47:57.239 --> 00:48:00.519
I understand that in the second half
of the season, and there was more

758
00:48:00.519 --> 00:48:04.400
tape on Jordan Love. Top ten
and EPA per play against the Blitz top

759
00:48:04.440 --> 00:48:07.440
ten and EPA per play against man
coverage top ten, and ep per play

760
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:12.239
against zone coverage. He was a
top ten quarterback against anything you wanted to

761
00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:15.599
do to him. The Bears are
an execute our defense, cover three,

762
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:23.079
cover two, cover one team towards
them. The Vikings are a psychosis defense.

763
00:48:23.119 --> 00:48:28.000
They are an absolute chaos defense.
We might be playing we might be

764
00:48:28.079 --> 00:48:30.000
dropping eight, or we might be
bringing eight. You don't know what we're

765
00:48:30.039 --> 00:48:37.920
doing. Torch them. The Chiefs
blitz heavy man coverage team. Jordan Love

766
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:42.760
played awesome against them. So it's
just it's one of those things where you

767
00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:46.639
go, Okay, I understand why
you would say that, and I understand

768
00:48:47.199 --> 00:48:51.599
like the hesitancy after just half a
season, but when you dig into it

769
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:54.119
and you look at okay, they
they played every kind of defense you can

770
00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:59.480
play, and some really good defenses
Pittsburgh, Kansas City, Minnesota, who

771
00:48:59.519 --> 00:49:02.199
was a better defense before they played
than after, in part because of what

772
00:49:02.239 --> 00:49:07.519
the Packers did Dallas. They scorned
forty plus points on the road against Dallas

773
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:13.719
in basically everyone's first ever playoff game. I think that has to count for

774
00:49:13.760 --> 00:49:17.760
something here. So this is this
is I think it's a harder thing to

775
00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:24.159
punch holes in than most players after
one year, just because of the circumstances

776
00:49:24.199 --> 00:49:29.400
around him and then the kinds of
defenses that they did face. He really

777
00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:32.280
did check every box. Yeah,
and I think the one thing that got

778
00:49:32.519 --> 00:49:37.320
Lions fans really riled up was you're
saying they have a better overall roster,

779
00:49:37.480 --> 00:49:39.639
and especially when you look at offense. I would agree, I said it

780
00:49:39.840 --> 00:49:44.400
earlier. Easy disagreed with me.
Other people in the chat disagree with me

781
00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:47.840
that I like the Packers wide receiver
room better than the Lions wide receiver room

782
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:52.000
per se, like one through four, I think you have more talent than

783
00:49:52.000 --> 00:49:57.000
we have one through four, but
obviously all Pro. You've got the other

784
00:49:57.039 --> 00:50:00.199
weapons on this team, like like
guys like Jamir Gibbs, who speed up

785
00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:06.320
puts him as a better running back
per handoff than Josh Jacobs, David Montgomery,

786
00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:10.199
another thousand yard rusher, and Sam
Laporta, who is also a rookie

787
00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:15.960
and was the second team All Pro. So I just did this experiment with

788
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:20.559
with Matt Darry Arpowet locked on Lions. I'm on ros Saint Brown. If

789
00:50:20.559 --> 00:50:23.480
you're gonna if you're gonna pick receivers. The number one pick is I'm on

790
00:50:23.559 --> 00:50:29.079
Ross sant Brown. I would argue
the next four guys at least that you

791
00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:34.920
would take ore Pockers, Come on, I love the next I can see

792
00:50:34.920 --> 00:50:40.679
the one being Christian Watson. Jamo
easily three or four. We're talking about

793
00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:45.920
twenty five catches he's got. He's
got three more career touchdowns in two seasons

794
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:49.800
than you and I, guys,
twenty four catches last year, like Romeo

795
00:50:49.880 --> 00:50:52.800
Dobbs more productive, Christian Watson more
productive, D'antavian Wicks more productive, Jane

796
00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:57.599
Reed more productive and less action though
he had the suspension the injury of the

797
00:50:57.639 --> 00:51:01.559
year prior to that. That's true. I'll be on it as someone who

798
00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:06.719
loved Jamison Williams coming out and was
very annoyed when the Lions got him because

799
00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:07.880
I was just like on that fast
track, like that's gonna suck. I

800
00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:14.480
don't like that he has way underperformed
expectations, and I don't know why at

801
00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:17.559
this point we would have like a
lot of confidence that it's going to change.

802
00:51:17.559 --> 00:51:21.280
I don't know that we've seen real
progress, like you guys tell me

803
00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:24.679
as as people who study this more
closely than I have as an outsider,

804
00:51:24.760 --> 00:51:29.679
I have not seen a guy who
has made significant improvements in terms of like

805
00:51:30.079 --> 00:51:34.639
traits, skills, actual receiver play. Like he still has the physical tools

806
00:51:34.480 --> 00:51:38.760
he's got. I think he's explosive
this, but do you think he's a

807
00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:43.519
materially better route runner? Is he
materially better in traffic? Is he materially

808
00:51:43.519 --> 00:51:46.760
better after the catch than he was? He's gotten so much better. I

809
00:51:46.760 --> 00:51:53.559
think, to jump at you,
it has well. Towards the end of

810
00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:57.119
the season he did and it started
changing. And even you watch the FC

811
00:51:57.199 --> 00:52:00.880
Conference Championship game too that we were
in that you guys, and obviously he

812
00:52:00.880 --> 00:52:02.239
saw the end of round he got
the poll there. He's done it once

813
00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:06.400
against the Vikings two like get a
couple of all hands cut. The reason

814
00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:09.360
one of the reasons I would take
Jordan Love over Jared Goff is just he's

815
00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:13.320
able to make off platform throws.
He's able to make play their throws off

816
00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:15.320
schedule, and I feel like that's
where Jamo would thrive. We've had to

817
00:52:15.360 --> 00:52:19.440
learn how to utilize Jamwa to his
best ability as well as him just kind

818
00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:22.320
of coming along and just like learning
how to run routes versus just straight go

819
00:52:22.440 --> 00:52:25.679
because he has that speed to beat. But it's shown like if you were

820
00:52:25.719 --> 00:52:30.159
to watch like the back half of
last season, Jamo has been He's grown.

821
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:35.000
It's one of the reason we probably
didn't bring back Josh Renolds. They're

822
00:52:35.079 --> 00:52:37.599
very different players though, right like, and I think that was part of

823
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:40.760
why I was I was saying,
and this was this was sort of where

824
00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:49.039
this conversation started for me, was
I was looking at Okay, the Packers

825
00:52:49.119 --> 00:52:52.480
had some obvious needs going into the
off season, safety, linebacker, non

826
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:55.000
premium positions, but but those were
the two biggest spots. They threw a

827
00:52:55.000 --> 00:52:59.039
lot of resources at those spots.
Zavier McKinney, high end free agency,

828
00:52:59.119 --> 00:53:01.599
they did. They dropped three safeties. Well we'll see if those guys are

829
00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:07.119
good, but but they allocated a
ton of resources there. Linebacker, they

830
00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:09.599
go back to back on Day two, second round, third round. Did

831
00:53:09.599 --> 00:53:13.880
I love the Tyrone Hopper pick?
No, I love the Drink Cooper pick,

832
00:53:13.960 --> 00:53:17.599
especially after trading down. I man, yeah, I like that kid.

833
00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:21.119
I hated it. And so if
you like Jack Campbell, it's really

834
00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:24.639
hard to not like Drean Cooper right
from a prospect standpoint, Like that's they're

835
00:53:24.719 --> 00:53:30.559
they're very similar players. But so
the Lions, I felt like they had

836
00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:37.519
three big things heading into this offseason. Corner, a secondary pass rusher,

837
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:43.440
and another receiver not past not to
pass catcher because Sam Laporte is awesome.

838
00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:51.000
Another receiver corner, no doubt,
like they brought in Terry Arnold Nis Rayshaw

839
00:53:51.039 --> 00:53:57.559
junior. Like those are real guys. Meet Robertson, but he's got to

840
00:53:57.559 --> 00:54:00.960
stay healthy. Emanuel Mosley's got to
stay healthy. Like those are guys who

841
00:54:00.960 --> 00:54:04.840
you're counting on to be to be
real impact players for you that in year

842
00:54:04.880 --> 00:54:07.199
one, especially with these rookies,
I don't know what you're gonna get.

843
00:54:07.239 --> 00:54:09.199
But again, Packers they did that
with linebacker and safety, so I can't

844
00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:15.239
discount the rookie part of this.
You lose Josh Reynolds and now I guess

845
00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:20.039
you're just counting on internal development from
Jamison Williams and Khaliff Rayman, who's what

846
00:54:20.159 --> 00:54:22.920
in year eight, like on his
seventeenth team in the league. Like,

847
00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:27.400
I just I don't see that being
a path forward for that offense. Maybe

848
00:54:27.400 --> 00:54:30.119
it's more action for Jamier Gibbs,
which would be great from a football standpoint,

849
00:54:30.159 --> 00:54:34.079
like get him more touches in the
passing game especially. I would love

850
00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:36.599
to see that. Not as a
Packers fan, of course, but like

851
00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:39.559
in a vacuum, I'd love to
see that. And then like the secondary

852
00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:44.559
pass rusher again in the draft,
where where was that guy? I was

853
00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:49.000
waiting for them to take an edge
rusher early in this draft. I just

854
00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:52.039
don't see it from them. And
this was a team in the second half

855
00:54:52.079 --> 00:54:54.480
of the season, from like week
ten on it they were thirty first and

856
00:54:54.519 --> 00:54:59.440
EPA per played defensively, it was
a really bad defense in the second half

857
00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:01.360
after started out pretty strong. The
run defense was good. Alee McNeil is

858
00:55:01.400 --> 00:55:06.079
a monster. I love the addition
of DJ Reader, but I don't think

859
00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:10.360
that materially improves your pass rush because
on third and ten are Alie McNeil and

860
00:55:10.400 --> 00:55:14.559
DJ Reader are going to be on
the field at the same time, Like,

861
00:55:14.599 --> 00:55:17.079
can you have two three hundred and
forty pound guys rush the passer along

862
00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:22.159
the interior? I think on first
time those guys are good pass rushers.

863
00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:24.000
I don't think on third down those
guys are good pass rushers. Aliam dropped

864
00:55:24.039 --> 00:55:28.000
the weight to try to become more
of a pass rusher, and last year

865
00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:30.000
we saw that kind of payoff where
he was getting sacks. I think he

866
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:34.079
had five sex like McNeil, I
don't. I don't want to make it

867
00:55:34.079 --> 00:55:36.880
seem like I don't think he's a
good player. He actually did a podcast

868
00:55:36.880 --> 00:55:39.400
with Chris impact pass Rusher the same
way. And I do want to mention

869
00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:43.559
one thing before we get off the
topic of weapons, because how you mentioned

870
00:55:43.559 --> 00:55:46.119
the Lions they got the one wide
receiver and then you gave the Packers the

871
00:55:46.119 --> 00:55:50.519
next four. Well, if we're
talking about strictly weapons, I'd give the

872
00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:53.559
Lions the four top weapons between the
two teams. Looking at Aman Ross,

873
00:55:53.559 --> 00:55:57.719
Saint Brown, Sam Laporta, Jamier
Gibbs, and David Montgomery as guys,

874
00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:01.159
I would take over anybody off of
that Packers off David Montgomery. Come on,

875
00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:06.039
he had a thousand yards last year, he had ten points. You

876
00:56:06.280 --> 00:56:09.320
guys on Prime Time six hundred years. Did you see what he did to

877
00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:14.079
the Packer? Because he is is
David Montgomery the same guy who's been one

878
00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:16.400
thousands and plus yack every single year
he's been in the NFL. It's not

879
00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:21.880
been good since Rich Shermer was the
defensive coordinator. Like, it's not impressive

880
00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:23.519
to run against the Packers. Everyone
runs against the Packers. Did you see

881
00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:28.079
the playoff game in twenty nineteen against
the forty nine Ers when Jimmy Garoppolo attended

882
00:56:28.199 --> 00:56:31.280
nine passes? Like, I get
it. Dave Montgomery is a nice a

883
00:56:31.360 --> 00:56:35.840
nice player. He's a he is
a nice running back. Look, I've

884
00:56:35.880 --> 00:56:38.880
lived this life. Bears fans tried
to tell me David Montgomery was the second

885
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:43.880
coming of Walter Payton for five straight
seasons or four straight seasons, and then

886
00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:46.559
the Bear said bye, and then
he went to Detroit and they decided this

887
00:56:46.599 --> 00:56:50.639
is why I think the Jumior Gibbs
thon is so funny. They give David

888
00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:52.760
Montgomery. You know, you can
look it up. Four hundred carries,

889
00:56:52.760 --> 00:56:59.000
three hundred and fifty carries, something
crazy. He's a totally fine, passable

890
00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:05.039
running back. He is mark Ingram
to Jamiir Gibbs, Alvin Kamara, and

891
00:57:05.039 --> 00:57:08.280
and that think about those Saints offenses. That's a really good one two punch.

892
00:57:08.719 --> 00:57:15.639
But if you extra kate David Montgomery
from that situation with maybe the best,

893
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:19.760
probably the second best after the Eagles
last year run blocking offensive line in

894
00:57:19.760 --> 00:57:22.599
football. David Montgomery is just a
guy like if you take David Montgomery and

895
00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:27.280
put him with the Vikings or the
Bears. We saw him with the Bears

896
00:57:27.400 --> 00:57:31.599
wasn't very good. He went pose
yards every single year he was with the

897
00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:35.599
Bears. He was good, the
Bears weren't. This is a guy who

898
00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:37.679
last year, on two hundred and
nineteen carries, had one thousand and fifteen

899
00:57:37.719 --> 00:57:40.800
yards, compared to Josh Jacobs,
who the Packers brought in to be their

900
00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:45.800
guy at two hundred and thirty three
carries only having eight hundred and five yards

901
00:57:45.920 --> 00:57:47.280
so to per carry. Basis,
he's a better running back, and that's

902
00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:52.039
splitting a backfield with an explosive rookie
that they put in the first run bat.

903
00:57:52.440 --> 00:57:55.760
Also, that is also with the
second best run blocking offensive line in

904
00:57:55.800 --> 00:58:00.119
the league versus maybe the best offensive
line are the worst offensive line in the

905
00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:05.199
league. Full stop in Las Vegas, like he averaged four point six yards

906
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:10.400
per carry with the Lions last year
before that in Chicago behind a mediocre offensive

907
00:58:10.440 --> 00:58:14.280
line four yards per carry, three
point eight yards per carrie, four point

908
00:58:14.320 --> 00:58:16.840
three yards per carry, three point
seven yards per carry. You running backs

909
00:58:16.840 --> 00:58:21.719
are so much a product of what
gets blocked for them. He is He

910
00:58:21.880 --> 00:58:24.760
is the prototypical. If there are
four yards there, I will get you

911
00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:30.559
five. Like that is what he
is. Jamir Gibbs is if there's four

912
00:58:30.639 --> 00:58:32.960
yards there, I can get you
forty. That's a different type of player.

913
00:58:34.000 --> 00:58:37.239
Now the question is can he take
fifteen, eighteen to twenty carries a

914
00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:38.920
game. I think he had.
I think he had more than fifteen carries

915
00:58:39.320 --> 00:58:43.519
twice last year. Like that's the
question. I think what Sjamir gives is

916
00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:49.280
what can his workload really be?
But Dave Montgomery is a fine passable running

917
00:58:49.320 --> 00:58:52.239
back. I wouldn't I wouldn't take
him over Josh Jacobs. I wouldn't take

918
00:58:52.280 --> 00:58:53.719
him over Jaden Reid, wouldn't take
him over Christan Watson, wouldn't take him

919
00:58:53.760 --> 00:58:58.519
over down Tavan Wicks, just because
running backs are so replaceable in general.

920
00:58:58.840 --> 00:59:02.599
Like I didn't love spending fourteen million
dollars on Josh Jacobs. Yeah, he's

921
00:59:02.599 --> 00:59:07.840
one of the five to eight best
running backs in the league. Is he

922
00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:09.639
someone that makes a true difference?
I don't think so. Like I think

923
00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:13.000
there are there are like two running
backs in the league that make a difference.

924
00:59:13.000 --> 00:59:16.440
It's Christian McCaffrey and then like we'll
see b Jon Robinson and then like

925
00:59:16.519 --> 00:59:22.320
everybody else is like that's how it
works. It's not that important a position

926
00:59:22.360 --> 00:59:23.880
to me. I don't think that
makes that much of a difference because it's

927
00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:28.639
such a product of the offensive line, and the Detroit offensive line is is

928
00:59:28.679 --> 00:59:31.400
really good in run blocking, Like
they maul you, they come after you.

929
00:59:31.440 --> 00:59:36.760
They they kicked the Packers ass in
that Week four game on Thursday night

930
00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:42.440
in the trenches. Absolutely took it
to them and and that like that's a

931
00:59:42.440 --> 00:59:45.360
credit to Detroit. But I don't
think that makes David Montgomery a good player.

932
00:59:45.400 --> 00:59:52.119
He's not come. I wouldn't say
he's like that. He's definitely good

933
00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:55.039
though. He's fine. He's fine. He's more than fine. Like I

934
00:59:55.039 --> 00:59:58.599
said, he's a guy who said
over a thousand all purpose cards every year

935
00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:00.280
he spend in the NFL if you're
gonna, if you are powering and the

936
01:00:00.400 --> 01:00:07.039
weapons. But at the total touches
numbers, he got fed touches in Chicago,

937
01:00:07.119 --> 01:00:09.440
he got fed touches in Detroit.
He does not produce above and beyond

938
01:00:09.480 --> 01:00:13.199
what is blocked. If you look
at the rush yards over expectation, he's

939
01:00:13.480 --> 01:00:16.280
he's always been very bad in rush
yards over expectation. But he's always played

940
01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:21.719
for the Bears. But it's about
expectation, Like if you've block four yards

941
01:00:21.719 --> 01:00:24.199
and you get three, that's bad. See, I'm not worried about expectation.

942
01:00:24.239 --> 01:00:28.440
I'm worried about what happens on the
field, like when he's out there

943
01:00:29.079 --> 01:00:31.280
running the bard and he's great detect. I understand what you're saying, and

944
01:00:31.320 --> 01:00:34.800
I get it. But if we're
trying to talk about player quality, the

945
01:00:34.840 --> 01:00:37.519
expectation matters. Like if if the
offensive line blocks you four yards and you

946
01:00:37.559 --> 01:00:42.039
get three or you get four,
you're not changing the game. You're not

947
01:00:42.320 --> 01:00:45.519
adding value to your team. Now
if you get six, that's what Aaron

948
01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:47.960
Jones did, that's adding value.
I just don't think he adds value to

949
01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:52.519
this team. So that that's where
I'm like, you have to just take

950
01:00:52.559 --> 01:00:57.440
for granted that I don't like David
Montgomery as much as you guys aren't.

951
01:00:57.559 --> 01:01:00.000
I didn't like him on the Bears
either. I didn't like him draft either.

952
01:01:00.239 --> 01:01:02.079
People thought he was special. Pre
draft. I was like, I

953
01:01:02.320 --> 01:01:05.360
watched him and I was like,
I don't. I don't see it.

954
01:01:05.440 --> 01:01:08.639
So I've just never been a David
Montgomery guy. So that's just like you

955
01:01:08.679 --> 01:01:12.400
can say it's a Lion's bias.
It's not. It's a David Montgomery bias.

956
01:01:12.440 --> 01:01:15.159
I just don't think he's a special
player. I've never thought that outside

957
01:01:15.199 --> 01:01:19.440
did Montgomery. Who are taking five
weapons out of both teams just drafted?

958
01:01:19.519 --> 01:01:24.639
Now, how many do we get
to a Packer or three at the very

959
01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:30.800
least, it's it's probably it's probably
Gibbs Laporta and Amon Ross, Saint Brown

960
01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:36.559
and then I But but then I
think, like, yeah, who is

961
01:01:36.599 --> 01:01:38.159
the first Packer off the board?
I would say Jaden Reid and that's not

962
01:01:40.239 --> 01:01:45.440
until I noticed before the season,
I would have said Christian Watson invites it.

963
01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:46.719
But then I I think I can. I think I can make a

964
01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:52.239
reasonable case like the next six players
are Packers because I think there's four.

965
01:01:52.400 --> 01:01:58.039
I already told you I think there's
four receivers. And then I I both

966
01:01:58.039 --> 01:02:00.039
of the tight ends for the Packers, like as good as Sam Laporta was

967
01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:04.480
last year, and he was,
I'm nervous from Musgrave on it. Luke

968
01:02:04.559 --> 01:02:08.360
Musgrave led the league in passer rating
when targeted by a tight end, and

969
01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:14.800
Tucker Kraft led the league in yards
after catch per yeah, per whatever it

970
01:02:14.840 --> 01:02:19.920
is, yards after catch per attempt
basically for tight ends. And if you

971
01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:23.920
look at what they did in sixty
six, I think it's sixty six catches.

972
01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:28.519
It's either sixty six catches or sixty
six targets. They had over seven

973
01:02:28.599 --> 01:02:31.039
hundred yards, Sam Laporta in one
hundred and twenty targets. It was eighty

974
01:02:31.039 --> 01:02:35.800
more targets to have like one hundred
and twenty more yards than the Packers two

975
01:02:35.880 --> 01:02:39.199
tight ends combined. For so,
like, I think the tight ends are

976
01:02:39.239 --> 01:02:43.280
really good or can be really good, not they aren't really good yet.

977
01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:45.760
And then Josh Jacobs, So what
did I say? That's seven guys before

978
01:02:45.800 --> 01:02:50.199
you get to the next lion.
So then it becomes a question of what

979
01:02:50.239 --> 01:02:52.599
are you value more. There's no
way. I'm sorry, there's no way

980
01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:55.800
your ticket seven guys over David Montgomery
and Jameson Williams. There's no way.

981
01:02:55.840 --> 01:02:59.519
I mean, I just told you. I don't think David Montgomery is like

982
01:03:00.320 --> 01:03:02.840
I think he's a replacement level player. And Jamison Willis has twenty four catches

983
01:03:02.840 --> 01:03:06.760
in the NFL, Like, what
do you want me to say? You

984
01:03:06.760 --> 01:03:08.280
want to talk about I don't know
that. I don't know the epas for

985
01:03:08.440 --> 01:03:14.280
Jameson Williams. But you're using epas
in an argument. I be huge something.

986
01:03:14.480 --> 01:03:17.199
Every time he touches the ball,
he scores a touchdown. He's got

987
01:03:17.280 --> 01:03:24.760
three career touchdowns receiving. Yeah,
the guys, the guys are monsters.

988
01:03:24.800 --> 01:03:30.800
Five touchdowns. Jaden Reid had eight
touchdowns just last year. That's his regular

989
01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:35.159
season, don't you you are you
are thinking of what the idea of what

990
01:03:35.239 --> 01:03:39.199
Jameson Williams can be. That's what
isn't that what estimated averages is. We're

991
01:03:39.239 --> 01:03:43.400
assuming what they're gonna do. I'm
assuming he's gonna take a big jump and

992
01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:47.400
be that weapon, but he hasn't
done it yet. You thought that was

993
01:03:47.400 --> 01:03:51.920
gonna happen this year and it didn't. Like we all thought he would take

994
01:03:51.960 --> 01:03:54.800
that second year jump in year two, he didn't. Twenty four catches in

995
01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:59.599
year two. That is that is
bad. That is way performed. Like

996
01:03:59.639 --> 01:04:03.440
the future draft capital to go up
into the what top fifteen to draft Jamison

997
01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:08.880
Williams. You expect that guy to
be a one A one B type player

998
01:04:09.280 --> 01:04:12.960
and he has twenty four catches in
the season. I understand he got suspended,

999
01:04:13.320 --> 01:04:15.480
but like he had more than I
was just looking at the numbers.

1000
01:04:15.639 --> 01:04:20.920
He has more than two catches in
the regular season two times in his whole

1001
01:04:20.960 --> 01:04:25.679
twenty twenty three season, including the
playoffs, two times he had more than

1002
01:04:25.719 --> 01:04:30.960
two catches. That is a replacement
or sub replacement level player. Like,

1003
01:04:30.039 --> 01:04:33.599
I don't know how you argue that's
not If you average two catches a game,

1004
01:04:34.400 --> 01:04:38.079
you are a replacement level player.
And he didn't even average two.

1005
01:04:38.800 --> 01:04:41.920
So like, if you look at
the whole the whole season, he's got

1006
01:04:41.960 --> 01:04:47.199
some nice splash plays and has done
in terms of pure production. Nothing nothing.

1007
01:04:48.719 --> 01:04:54.119
I think you missed the second half
of last year for sure. Well,

1008
01:04:54.199 --> 01:04:56.519
I was moving on from that game. I just told you. I

1009
01:04:56.679 --> 01:05:00.000
just told you the numbers he had
he had five catch against. Context always

1010
01:05:00.000 --> 01:05:04.400
matters to the numbers, right like
like also limited action though also limited action,

1011
01:05:04.559 --> 01:05:09.360
injury, suspension, injury again like, it's also the context. These

1012
01:05:09.400 --> 01:05:13.960
numbers always always who are you playing
in these situations? Like it's jamo,

1013
01:05:14.280 --> 01:05:15.519
I promise you I wouldn't. I'd
be willing to make a bet right now.

1014
01:05:15.639 --> 01:05:19.320
I would. Let's make a jersey
bet. What packer jersey don't you

1015
01:05:19.360 --> 01:05:24.320
have that you want? I mean, I'm not I'm not really a Jersey

1016
01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:27.159
guy. But let's let's do it
for my son. Okay, shout out.

1017
01:05:27.719 --> 01:05:29.880
I'll do the same. I have
a son to do. We'll do

1018
01:05:30.320 --> 01:05:33.679
kids. Jordan love Jersey Okay,
Okay. In exchange, who I'm want

1019
01:05:33.679 --> 01:05:39.559
for the line get it should be
David Montgomery if you guys think he's a

1020
01:05:39.559 --> 01:05:44.199
superstar. Let's do Jamior Gibbs for
for for my son Bryson. Okay,

1021
01:05:44.199 --> 01:05:46.360
what's what's what's the over on your
here? For Jamison Williams, I'll let

1022
01:05:46.360 --> 01:05:49.800
you make it. Don't go crazy. Why don't we do Jameson Williams versus

1023
01:05:49.800 --> 01:05:55.760
a Packer receiver? Okay, which
one? I bet Jamison Williams will be

1024
01:05:55.760 --> 01:06:00.599
the number two receiver on the package. I'm going to make it to number

1025
01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:02.719
two receiver on the Packers yards.
He's making, he's making, he's making,

1026
01:06:03.000 --> 01:06:05.440
he's writing checks for your back.
Yeah yeah, oh, I would

1027
01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:09.599
chill over there. I was gonna
say that earlier. All right, Packer

1028
01:06:09.639 --> 01:06:15.679
statistics, I know your leading receiver
have a eight hundred six hundred Yeah,

1029
01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:17.679
I think I think Jayden Reid had
like eight hundred and thirty three yards last

1030
01:06:17.719 --> 01:06:21.719
year or something like that. Okay, uh Romeo Dobbs last year had six

1031
01:06:21.920 --> 01:06:26.440
seventy four receiving yards. Is that
fair? Okay? Do you want to

1032
01:06:26.440 --> 01:06:29.000
you want to start there? Is
that too low for you? Because you

1033
01:06:28.960 --> 01:06:31.400
admit that too low? You make
James over under at six seventy four or

1034
01:06:31.440 --> 01:06:39.280
six seventy five and a half.
But am I saying that it's Romeo Dobbs

1035
01:06:39.280 --> 01:06:44.239
gonna if Romeo Dobs has more?
Do I win the bad? I don't

1036
01:06:44.280 --> 01:06:46.199
know. Yeah. Should you just
do it per player? That's why I

1037
01:06:46.199 --> 01:06:49.559
think we should just player for player? All right, for player, let's

1038
01:06:49.559 --> 01:06:54.320
just do like Jamison Williams against you
want to pick Jane Reid, want do

1039
01:06:54.320 --> 01:06:58.159
Dobbs. Dobbs was like your receiver
too, or Watts. I mean I

1040
01:06:58.159 --> 01:07:00.719
could make on Watson missus and missus. Some game helped me out with that

1041
01:07:00.760 --> 01:07:02.679
one. I fight Dobbs, your
receiver to jam was our receiver too.

1042
01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:08.519
I'd be going to go like that. See, I don't think. I

1043
01:07:08.519 --> 01:07:10.840
don't think Dobbs is a receiver to
I don't want. I don't want to

1044
01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:13.920
make it seem like I like I'm
I'm ducking this, But yeah, I

1045
01:07:14.000 --> 01:07:16.840
just I know he was my targets
last year. He was actually receiver one

1046
01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:19.280
by targets, But I just like
I watched the team every week, I

1047
01:07:19.320 --> 01:07:24.320
don't think that that's what he is. Yeah, so that's why this is

1048
01:07:24.360 --> 01:07:28.199
tricky for me. If you wanted
to Watson Watson total yards between the two

1049
01:07:28.239 --> 01:07:32.440
of them, let's do it,
Watson and Jambo's total yards handshake. I

1050
01:07:32.480 --> 01:07:34.639
think, yeah, I think I
think that's a good that's a good one

1051
01:07:34.679 --> 01:07:38.599
because both both guys have missed a
lot of time, very similar skill sets,

1052
01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:43.000
like big expectations, So I think
I think that's a fair I think

1053
01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:45.199
that's fair. You know what,
Can I switch to Brian Branch though for

1054
01:07:45.199 --> 01:07:48.559
the Jersey if I win? Yes
on, because like we sniped him from

1055
01:07:48.559 --> 01:07:53.360
you guys. But real quick,
I've taken up your time, and I

1056
01:07:53.559 --> 01:07:56.440
really do appreciate this. This has
been like honestly, I had a blast.

1057
01:07:56.480 --> 01:08:00.559
It's spent great. But I guess
the NFC North this year, what

1058
01:08:00.599 --> 01:08:05.679
do you see happening one through four? I already have money on the Packers

1059
01:08:05.679 --> 01:08:09.079
to win, So let's like start
there. People say, oh, I

1060
01:08:09.079 --> 01:08:11.920
bet he bet on whatever, Like
no, I'll show you. I'll show

1061
01:08:11.920 --> 01:08:14.880
you the Fandel slip. Like I
have the Packers to win I have over

1062
01:08:14.920 --> 01:08:18.199
their win total. I regularly bet
on them to win the Super Bowl just

1063
01:08:18.239 --> 01:08:24.439
because it's fun to do. I
think I think the Packers win eleven games.

1064
01:08:24.840 --> 01:08:31.279
I think the Lions win ten.
I think the Bears win eight and

1065
01:08:31.399 --> 01:08:38.239
the Vikings win six. And I
think both the Packers and the Lions win

1066
01:08:38.279 --> 01:08:41.560
a playoff game. You got spinning
already explode over here. This guy is

1067
01:08:45.279 --> 01:08:48.119
tame. Yeah, I think I
think there's some regression coming. I think

1068
01:08:48.159 --> 01:08:51.239
there's some regression coming for that offense, is what I mean, like from

1069
01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:56.840
film or what like? Why regression
from who? Because I don't believe in

1070
01:08:56.880 --> 01:08:59.960
Jamison Williams, and I think that
they did not upgrade that receiver. Spot

1071
01:09:00.039 --> 01:09:00.760
know, if they make a trade
in the middle of the year for like

1072
01:09:01.079 --> 01:09:03.680
you know, are they make a
trade in August for Courtland Sutton like you

1073
01:09:03.680 --> 01:09:06.680
know? I reserve the right to
change my mind on that. But I

1074
01:09:06.680 --> 01:09:11.720
think they got I think they got
a little lucky last year. I think

1075
01:09:11.760 --> 01:09:14.640
the defense is not as good as
it was the first half of last year.

1076
01:09:14.680 --> 01:09:17.079
And when you have to rely on
rookie corners, you're just like even

1077
01:09:17.079 --> 01:09:21.359
when rookie I have a bit that
most rookies are bad. Even if they

1078
01:09:21.359 --> 01:09:25.680
turn out to be good players.
Most rookies are bad. And so if

1079
01:09:25.760 --> 01:09:28.720
you need Terry Arnold and n Strakestrawf
to play meaningful reps for this team,

1080
01:09:28.960 --> 01:09:32.600
that's a problem like that. It
just at corner, especially like corner is

1081
01:09:32.640 --> 01:09:38.960
one of those spots where rookie corners
are almost always terrible and not just like

1082
01:09:39.119 --> 01:09:43.119
not not good, They're almost always
bad. And so that that is that

1083
01:09:43.239 --> 01:09:45.520
is what I think, and I
think there's I think there's some aggression coming

1084
01:09:45.520 --> 01:09:49.119
for this offense. I don't think
you can smoke and mirrors it that much

1085
01:09:49.199 --> 01:09:54.680
every year unless Ben Johnson is just
him, and maybe he is, we'll

1086
01:09:54.680 --> 01:09:59.880
see. I'm interested to see it. You're too good though those rookie corner

1087
01:09:59.880 --> 01:10:02.279
but it might not even be starting
week one because of Carlton Davis, who

1088
01:10:02.319 --> 01:10:06.079
we traded for from the Buccaneers.
And then the addition of a meet problem

1089
01:10:06.359 --> 01:10:14.319
is four games before he separates his
shoulder, and then turn Peter Matt,

1090
01:10:14.399 --> 01:10:15.479
I appreciate you, you got anything. I say. You do the leap

1091
01:10:15.520 --> 01:10:18.239
as well. I forgot to mention
that and introducing you. But if the

1092
01:10:18.279 --> 01:10:20.039
ice you want to shout out that
you got coming up. You want the

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01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:24.520
audience to let know no, no, no, Locked On Sports Today,

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the local angles. It's a it's
a really, really good show. People

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are really starting to find it lately. I'm really happy about that, So

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go check that out wherever you get
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Locked On Packers, but check out
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1104
01:10:53.560 --> 01:10:57.159
it. Hey man, guy,
I'm more than willing this. This is

1105
01:10:57.199 --> 01:10:59.119
a blast. We gotta do it
again. We do eve get to talk

1106
01:10:59.119 --> 01:11:01.640
about the draft classes. Yeah,
we'll do it. Come here listen.

1107
01:11:01.680 --> 01:11:04.840
We got a long summer, Yes, sir, sure, appreciate you so

1108
01:11:04.920 --> 01:11:12.199
much. Thanks. Oh he was
ready explode. I was. I'm not

1109
01:11:12.239 --> 01:11:15.520
gonna lie that. The regression got
me. But it was tough because,

1110
01:11:15.560 --> 01:11:19.119
like you got to like, this
show is tough because the segment, Yes,

1111
01:11:19.239 --> 01:11:23.000
we have to go to breaks and
stuff like that. That could have

1112
01:11:23.079 --> 01:11:26.880
last forever because it was just because
every time yeah, yeah, and he

1113
01:11:26.960 --> 01:11:30.279
feels the same way when we like, we saw the same in his eyes

1114
01:11:30.319 --> 01:11:32.560
when I said, David Montgomery of
like, so yeah, it's good.

1115
01:11:32.600 --> 01:11:36.600
It's great to have different I love
it was kind of crazy. I'm not

1116
01:11:36.640 --> 01:11:41.079
gonna lie. I mean, he's
got numbers because there's always contexts these numbers.

1117
01:11:41.159 --> 01:11:43.439
Man, what are you saying,
Chris, I think your micros go.

1118
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Yeah, I just I just said, if this the studio be this

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just print that shit. I just
I mean, I saw that and I

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just printed it. I don't know. I welcome back to whatever. It's

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1161
01:15:36.520 --> 01:15:44.000
Chris Nichas Aktetroit Mario, let's go. I'm actually you can do a

1162
01:15:44.039 --> 01:15:45.319
reaction segment. Yes, I guess
we could. I don't know. I'm

1163
01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:50.000
kind of I'm a little nervous about
that bet whoa only because if Christian Watson

1164
01:15:50.000 --> 01:15:55.000
stays healthy, he could be their
arguably wide receiver. One. I got

1165
01:15:54.680 --> 01:15:59.119
a question to post you guys coming
off that back. You guys fired up

1166
01:15:59.159 --> 01:16:01.359
for this Packer match up for once? I am oh, I can't wait

1167
01:16:01.399 --> 01:16:04.640
for I can't wait for our defensive
line to dominate the Packers over line.

1168
01:16:04.800 --> 01:16:08.600
Yeah, that part that that's the
that's the thing. Peter obviously as well.

1169
01:16:08.600 --> 01:16:12.159
Research when comes to stats just so
much context missing, like with the

1170
01:16:12.239 --> 01:16:14.119
Lee McNeil stuff. And I'm not
even trying to shut up pe. I

1171
01:16:14.159 --> 01:16:16.439
appreciate coming on and I love to
get like camp me and covers the R

1172
01:16:16.560 --> 01:16:19.800
team exactly. I couldn't tell you
that, you know which one of their

1173
01:16:19.800 --> 01:16:23.680
guys lost twenty pounds of you know, pass rush this year, But like

1174
01:16:24.319 --> 01:16:28.439
Alee McNeil did that, there are
expectations for Lee mc neil beyond just us

1175
01:16:28.520 --> 01:16:31.640
locally here in Detroit that covered Detroit
sports though. You hop on Chris Long's

1176
01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:35.039
podcast, they're talking about it.
You hop on our guy Trevin Sikama and

1177
01:16:35.079 --> 01:16:39.640
their podcasters, they're talking about it. DJ Reader and Alie McNeil him talking

1178
01:16:39.640 --> 01:16:42.000
about who's gonna be on the field
and third down. Both of them yes

1179
01:16:42.239 --> 01:16:46.800
that that DJ Retor remained on there
third down with the Bengals and Leaves can

1180
01:16:46.800 --> 01:16:49.199
do the same here. Leaves will
pass the rush. I'm sorry, rushed

1181
01:16:49.199 --> 01:16:53.840
the passer. That was weird and
rush and DJ retors to eat box and

1182
01:16:53.880 --> 01:16:57.439
then a guy we need to discuss
speaking about that, the defense Ada Hudson

1183
01:16:57.479 --> 01:17:00.239
benefiting from Djbder as well. I
just didn't talk about the return of James

1184
01:17:00.279 --> 01:17:05.640
Houston, or you're two guys like
Brian Branch and Jack Campbell taking leaps going

1185
01:17:05.680 --> 01:17:10.640
forward. But and he kept bringing
up the youngs, like relying on the

1186
01:17:10.680 --> 01:17:13.319
young corners. I was like,
Carlton Davis is brought in here to be

1187
01:17:13.359 --> 01:17:15.800
our number one. Me Robertson was
brought in here to be a dog,

1188
01:17:15.960 --> 01:17:20.880
Like, we don't need these two
young corners to step up. I don't

1189
01:17:20.880 --> 01:17:25.439
talk to me about him. But
Brad doesn't trade third rounders for fun.

1190
01:17:25.600 --> 01:17:28.880
Yes, like he thinks Carlton Davis
is that dude, and so should we

1191
01:17:29.640 --> 01:17:32.199
I. I you know what,
whoever put it uh easy, as I

1192
01:17:32.239 --> 01:17:36.000
guess TJ is it easy? Should
have let him talk you and to read?

1193
01:17:36.159 --> 01:17:40.840
Actually it was. I think we
read on Watson watch. Should let

1194
01:17:40.880 --> 01:17:44.159
him talk you to I'm just substitute
Watson. I had four receivers over Jamie

1195
01:17:44.199 --> 01:17:45.960
Dobbs. Should have been good.
He's absolutely right. We have put four

1196
01:17:46.000 --> 01:17:49.359
receivers over one guy. I should
be able to say any one of those

1197
01:17:49.359 --> 01:17:54.039
guys and the bathole's true. But
I took it as a W when he's

1198
01:17:54.039 --> 01:17:58.199
admitted it, though I should have
actually getting the W. Definitely, I

1199
01:17:58.199 --> 01:18:00.600
think you're still going to get the
w dude. I really think jo is

1200
01:18:00.680 --> 01:18:06.039
bigger next year. You gotter be
fucking right. You better for maybe me,

1201
01:18:09.079 --> 01:18:11.760
just just a couple of days ago, just a few days ago,

1202
01:18:11.920 --> 01:18:15.079
this man that's saying that chair right
there five to seven or so goes,

1203
01:18:15.520 --> 01:18:18.079
I don't know. Jamo is the
number two, and now he's got a

1204
01:18:18.079 --> 01:18:20.199
couple of weeks so a couple of
days go. And that's an event that

1205
01:18:20.199 --> 01:18:25.359
we drafted a wide receiver and we
did it so easy. I think the

1206
01:18:25.399 --> 01:18:29.399
thing with the bet that will hold
up, it's the total yards. I

1207
01:18:29.399 --> 01:18:33.279
think Jamo absolutely crushes on the ground
this year in big spots, big plays.

1208
01:18:33.319 --> 01:18:36.359
We've seen it before. I think
Ben Johnson gets him more involved,

1209
01:18:36.640 --> 01:18:43.319
and we've seen his comfortability with golf
just grow so much in the last like

1210
01:18:43.399 --> 01:18:46.399
back half of last year, starting
like that Denver game I remember specifically,

1211
01:18:47.039 --> 01:18:50.319
I think we're going to be set
here. I think that's a locked easy.

1212
01:18:50.520 --> 01:18:54.079
I like the bet a lot.
The stag. He pointed out to

1213
01:18:54.119 --> 01:19:00.520
me that that was it. Jos
No only two cat or more like only

1214
01:19:00.560 --> 01:19:03.079
having two of those. We knew
that though, yes, we talked about

1215
01:19:03.319 --> 01:19:06.600
him getting more touches, right,
But my thing is this year is like

1216
01:19:06.720 --> 01:19:11.800
I expect the exact obviously, I
expect like only two or three games this

1217
01:19:11.880 --> 01:19:15.119
year where he doesn't have two or
more catches like I think. I think.

1218
01:19:15.359 --> 01:19:17.239
And I'm not saying he's gonna have
eight catches, you know, every

1219
01:19:17.279 --> 01:19:20.560
game. I'm not saying that by
any means. But he's gonna get consistently

1220
01:19:21.039 --> 01:19:25.359
three, four or five, like
six catches, six catches a game,

1221
01:19:25.399 --> 01:19:29.760
like. I see that as a
very real expectation. I would average probably

1222
01:19:29.760 --> 01:19:30.840
like four catches a game f him
this year, I think. And the

1223
01:19:30.840 --> 01:19:34.800
one thing that really got me when
I almost started yelling when other than the

1224
01:19:34.800 --> 01:19:39.520
regression, is when he said smoking
mirrors about the offense. Yeah, yes,

1225
01:19:39.560 --> 01:19:43.800
he's an offense. It is as
like it's not smoking in your mouth,

1226
01:19:43.880 --> 01:19:46.640
line it up and running down your
throat for four quarters. If we

1227
01:19:46.680 --> 01:19:50.760
have fields over yeah, we have
the ability to do that. We also

1228
01:19:50.800 --> 01:19:55.039
have the ability of playmakers to go
on the outside to make these over like

1229
01:19:55.600 --> 01:19:59.359
it is as little smoking mirror.
I don't know if he's saying smoking mirrors

1230
01:19:59.399 --> 01:20:03.039
because of the and different things like
that, but this offense is come,

1231
01:20:03.279 --> 01:20:05.800
come and see us, and we're
gonna fuck you up because they do it

1232
01:20:05.800 --> 01:20:09.760
in multiple different ways. And I
really wish I could have brought up the

1233
01:20:09.760 --> 01:20:13.920
tight end room last year without Sam
Laporta and how just tight ends eat in

1234
01:20:14.000 --> 01:20:17.760
this system. So the smoking mirrors
think, I'd be a little bit not

1235
01:20:17.800 --> 01:20:21.960
gonna lie because this offense is as
cut and dry as as it gets when

1236
01:20:23.000 --> 01:20:26.039
it comes to They're a good offense
and they can fuck you up any way

1237
01:20:26.079 --> 01:20:30.760
they want. I would it be
nah, all's fair in love and war.

1238
01:20:30.960 --> 01:20:33.640
Would it be distasteful of me to
have to clip them saying the four

1239
01:20:33.680 --> 01:20:38.199
receiver thing and then clip them back
and out of the Dobbs part of it?

1240
01:20:38.359 --> 01:20:40.439
No, I don't think so.
Ah, yeah, that's what we

1241
01:20:40.600 --> 01:20:43.560
do. I am a little nervous
about that one. I'm not gonna lie,

1242
01:20:44.239 --> 01:20:45.920
yeah, because I mean it is
it is for receivers, but at

1243
01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:49.119
the same time, any one of
them could become one. He made that

1244
01:20:49.159 --> 01:20:55.560
point with Watson right like you said
the whole like E p A are the

1245
01:20:55.560 --> 01:21:00.399
speaker. I don't care about the
environment, honestly, I mean he said,

1246
01:21:00.279 --> 01:21:02.920
yeah, but he backed on Dobbs
immediately. He was their wide receiver

1247
01:21:03.000 --> 01:21:06.239
one last year, and he wouldn't
have taken Wicks either, So those are

1248
01:21:06.239 --> 01:21:11.560
two guys he wouldn't take over taken
Oh god, e Potson was actually a

1249
01:21:11.600 --> 01:21:15.359
scary one to pick as balls.
It's fine, I believe in nine games

1250
01:21:15.359 --> 01:21:17.279
you're like four and twenty two yards. Yeah, and let's not forget when

1251
01:21:17.279 --> 01:21:21.279
the Packers did beat us on Thanksgiving
it was the third game in eleven days.

1252
01:21:21.520 --> 01:21:25.319
Well, yeah, that's not let's
not forget that when they came in

1253
01:21:25.359 --> 01:21:29.600
here, miss Livnier, was it
Yeah, to rush from the interior like

1254
01:21:29.640 --> 01:21:33.520
they did in that game anymore because
Kevin Zeitler is gonna put people in headlockedris

1255
01:21:33.960 --> 01:21:38.159
wasn't Watson's like one hundred of his
yards against us? Didn't he have a

1256
01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:41.199
hundred yard game? Watson was stupid, I know in the very because yeah,

1257
01:21:41.239 --> 01:21:44.960
there was that stretch obviously where towards
the end of season where everybody was

1258
01:21:44.960 --> 01:21:46.640
getting one hundred yards or more on
the on the lines. I thought that

1259
01:21:46.680 --> 01:21:50.399
was one of Watson's games. So
so if you're taking away that ninety four

1260
01:21:50.479 --> 01:21:55.119
yards, seven targets, five cats
yards, one touchdown, but I know

1261
01:21:55.199 --> 01:21:57.960
you had that big one just to
start to start the day, ripped the

1262
01:21:57.960 --> 01:22:01.000
fifty yard fifty yard bomb, and
that's when I was like, oh fuck,

1263
01:22:01.439 --> 01:22:03.479
I'm okay. Well, you know, George Love, you can't be

1264
01:22:03.520 --> 01:22:08.119
doing this all game. It persistent. Actually, the second half line slowed

1265
01:22:08.159 --> 01:22:12.319
thing down. I think people like
dismissed that because of the abuse we took

1266
01:22:12.319 --> 01:22:14.439
in that first half, But the
backers really didn't do it in the second

1267
01:22:14.439 --> 01:22:17.760
half that game, which is a
nod to our coaching and making the adjustments

1268
01:22:17.800 --> 01:22:21.760
to prevent that. Whatever they may
have done, I know AG likes to

1269
01:22:23.399 --> 01:22:27.399
ship on adjustment conversation a little bit
there, but it did obviously change something

1270
01:22:27.439 --> 01:22:32.039
that second half. What you just
you just gotta you gotta start jerking off.

1271
01:22:33.279 --> 01:22:41.319
You're so distracted this week specific you
know what, let me hit that,

1272
01:22:41.800 --> 01:22:45.600
just RiPP one out in the bathroom
real before the show starts. Uh

1273
01:22:45.239 --> 01:22:50.439
no, but I respect Peter for
what he does dangerously horned. But man

1274
01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:54.760
and the the SPIPA and the epostats
and then you did it, by the

1275
01:22:54.800 --> 01:22:58.159
way, I did shout that was
nice, got it snucky and greed.

1276
01:22:58.199 --> 01:23:03.800
He was like, yeah, but
the epistats how it's like estimated based on

1277
01:23:03.960 --> 01:23:09.520
average, and then you can't project
Jamison Williams being better than what he was

1278
01:23:09.640 --> 01:23:13.720
because you haven't seen it yet.
Yeah, that's that that that I a

1279
01:23:13.760 --> 01:23:16.359
get limited action. Yeah, like
you bring up these numbers and it's great

1280
01:23:16.359 --> 01:23:20.119
context, but you also like two
touchdowns. Yeah, it's just a single

1281
01:23:20.159 --> 01:23:24.359
playoff game against the forty nine ers, which is also like a pretty damn

1282
01:23:24.399 --> 01:23:26.880
good defense. And then yeah,
in the context, is just like him

1283
01:23:26.880 --> 01:23:30.399
missing games and having to get in
that and sync with Jared Goff like we

1284
01:23:30.439 --> 01:23:31.800
saw it in the back half of
the season, and I I like,

1285
01:23:31.880 --> 01:23:34.680
I totally Like I said, I
respect Peter a lot for what he does

1286
01:23:34.720 --> 01:23:39.000
because I know he's saying the same
things about us right now. It's like

1287
01:23:39.359 --> 01:23:43.800
these stupid motherfuckers think Jamison Williams is
gonna be a dog. They think David

1288
01:23:43.800 --> 01:23:47.079
Montgomery's gonna be something special, like
Alie McNeil, Oh we lost some weight.

1289
01:23:47.159 --> 01:23:49.960
Who cares like it's it's that's what
it is, Like you said,

1290
01:23:49.960 --> 01:23:54.399
It's that's how it is with the
rivalry. And I'll never say the Packers

1291
01:23:54.399 --> 01:23:57.279
are better than us ever again for
the rest of my life. Man,

1292
01:23:57.399 --> 01:24:01.760
Jami lets me down, I might
turn the flannel sam On, He's not

1293
01:24:01.800 --> 01:24:06.239
gonna let you down. I have
a lot of faith in Jameson Williams.

1294
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head head on fly directly to rex. It has to work right other why

1320
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is that commercial thing? Yeah?
I don't know, I you know what,

1321
01:26:21.880 --> 01:26:26.520
I'm pretty sure it doesn't work because
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already. Hey, bone lines are

1325
01:26:38.840 --> 01:26:41.079
open, ball lines are open.
If you want to speak your piece on

1326
01:26:41.239 --> 01:26:44.720
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number, uh not top of my head?

1327
01:26:44.720 --> 01:26:46.520
I got it, I got it. I know I got it on

1328
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1329
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1330
01:26:55.760 --> 01:26:59.520
to five to two, six three
two two. Give us a call and

1331
01:26:59.600 --> 01:27:02.439
if we can't get you on,
scream and yell cuss words at Nick because

1332
01:27:02.439 --> 01:27:05.800
it's all his fault. It literally
is all's fault. Do you see Zay

1333
01:27:05.920 --> 01:27:14.000
Jones signed with Cardinals today? Yeah? Yeah, I feel boy that.

1334
01:27:16.600 --> 01:27:19.119
You know. It's not the worst
thing to miss out on. I don't

1335
01:27:19.159 --> 01:27:23.239
think say Jones isn't like a world
beat or anything, but it would have

1336
01:27:23.239 --> 01:27:27.560
been a nice depth piece for sure. And Brad Holmes all started. Brad

1337
01:27:27.560 --> 01:27:31.399
Holmes although he said, like you
know, he's happy with the guys they

1338
01:27:31.399 --> 01:27:34.520
have and they're gonna work as internal
growth. He also said it's not like

1339
01:27:34.600 --> 01:27:40.560
we're not gonna try to sign other
guys in his quotes on ninety seven one

1340
01:27:40.640 --> 01:27:43.920
yesterday. So they're definitely looking for
a piece. And like I said,

1341
01:27:43.960 --> 01:27:47.000
I wouldn't be surprised if it's a
post camp cut. So whether it be

1342
01:27:47.000 --> 01:27:49.520
one of those guys from the Titans, do you are you do you think

1343
01:27:49.560 --> 01:27:54.000
it actually happen or do you think
we're hopeful? I think for me personally,

1344
01:27:54.000 --> 01:27:57.520
I'm gonna openly admit that I'm just
hoping it happens. Yeah, I

1345
01:27:57.560 --> 01:28:00.960
mean, do you think it actually
happens? All right? I feel like

1346
01:28:00.960 --> 01:28:04.199
I'm more just trying to speaking into
existence. I mean, it also does

1347
01:28:04.279 --> 01:28:09.600
make sense though, like if a
veteran guy gets cut and it happens every

1348
01:28:09.600 --> 01:28:11.680
soon year, guys just like,
hey, that guy's for more Pro Bowl.

1349
01:28:11.680 --> 01:28:14.159
These guys we're all pro, but
his contract is hitting the litter.

1350
01:28:14.239 --> 01:28:16.199
Years he gets cut, they want
to go win somewhere, you know.

1351
01:28:16.399 --> 01:28:19.279
I mean, Kevin's likely a perfect
sample of that. I think it can

1352
01:28:19.359 --> 01:28:23.640
happen by him. I am more
hoping. The thing that worries me about

1353
01:28:23.640 --> 01:28:26.800
it is that wide receiver is such
a demand, so it's like it has

1354
01:28:26.840 --> 01:28:30.159
to take an extreme scenario for a
team to want to get rid of a

1355
01:28:30.159 --> 01:28:32.239
wide receiver, because, again we've
talked about in the show, you can

1356
01:28:32.279 --> 01:28:34.520
never have too many of those guys, Like, yeah, if you have

1357
01:28:34.880 --> 01:28:39.079
those guys, what do you mean
by that? Do you mean? But

1358
01:28:39.399 --> 01:28:45.399
those wide receivers are very valuable and
what you would like to obtain. I

1359
01:28:45.439 --> 01:28:49.640
can't say wide receiver. Yeah,
why did I say with the heart?

1360
01:28:49.840 --> 01:28:53.199
Yeah, I use the herd r
bro. I'm not very uncomfortable now,

1361
01:28:54.159 --> 01:28:58.399
that's all right, Lines, lines
are open. Come on, people,

1362
01:28:58.640 --> 01:29:00.840
What do you got to say about
the pack? What do you think is

1363
01:29:00.840 --> 01:29:04.000
more of a need though the Why
was your position or edge position? I

1364
01:29:04.039 --> 01:29:10.439
think it's edge. I don't know. I think it's the same same spot.

1365
01:29:10.640 --> 01:29:13.199
I think you're in the same spot
with both because you've got a good

1366
01:29:13.279 --> 01:29:16.279
rotation of pieces for the edge,
like my guy Matthew Betts, obviously,

1367
01:29:16.279 --> 01:29:20.960
Marcus Davenport, James Houston coming back, those are solid pieces you can rotate

1368
01:29:21.000 --> 01:29:26.279
on that other side. But new
coach of the Suns. Yeah, actually,

1369
01:29:26.279 --> 01:29:28.920
after saying it, it's edge,
I think so too. Just because

1370
01:29:28.920 --> 01:29:32.920
of defense the offense you have confidence
that's still going to operate supremely. It's

1371
01:29:32.960 --> 01:29:36.359
the defense where you have questions.
Yes, so I'm with you. I

1372
01:29:36.640 --> 01:29:40.079
think it is the edge position.
I think we're straight at the defensive tackle,

1373
01:29:40.119 --> 01:29:42.319
which was like my number one.
Oh, we are more than straight

1374
01:29:42.319 --> 01:29:45.520
at defensive tackle, especially with that
guy they signed Kyle ko. Yeah.

1375
01:29:45.680 --> 01:29:48.840
I don't even he makes a roster. He started thirteen games for Tennessee last

1376
01:29:48.880 --> 01:29:54.279
year. He's making I would bet
he makes the roster over Levi. I

1377
01:29:54.319 --> 01:29:56.159
agree to. I see some people
kind of like, I don't want to

1378
01:29:56.159 --> 01:29:59.640
say, hyping up Levi, but
speaking on him as if he's gonna maybe

1379
01:29:59.640 --> 01:30:01.359
it sounds very dispective. He's gonna
have to he's gonna have to show out

1380
01:30:01.359 --> 01:30:04.520
to make the roster. Yeah,
screen record this for for freezing call takes.

1381
01:30:04.560 --> 01:30:08.079
But yeah, I'm I agree,
I'm with that. I think I

1382
01:30:08.119 --> 01:30:11.479
don't know why people are having expectations
for him. You've got four spots locked

1383
01:30:11.479 --> 01:30:16.079
at defensive tackle right now with Wingo, Martin and obviously Reader and Alam,

1384
01:30:16.600 --> 01:30:23.079
and I think this guy they brought, uh sorry, what is Kyle Kyle

1385
01:30:23.079 --> 01:30:27.600
Pico Pico, Yeah, Peco.
I think he's going to be pushing Levi

1386
01:30:27.800 --> 01:30:30.760
for that last roster spot and I
would not be You already know Treel Davis

1387
01:30:30.840 --> 01:30:35.840
likes him. He likes Treel Davis's
style. He started thirteen games for the

1388
01:30:35.840 --> 01:30:40.920
Titans last year, so I would
not be surprised if he takes levi spot

1389
01:30:41.279 --> 01:30:45.079
mistake a graphic underneath the button.
And the good thing is we won't have

1390
01:30:45.119 --> 01:30:51.560
to see Tyson. We won't have
to see Tyson Tyson. I'm saying,

1391
01:30:51.600 --> 01:30:55.640
like you're bringing in a guy like
that, like we're now finally like we

1392
01:30:55.720 --> 01:30:58.439
have depth for the first time in
a long time in that spot. Yes,

1393
01:30:58.640 --> 01:31:00.920
yes, yeah, as long as
he your reader, which he will

1394
01:31:00.920 --> 01:31:01.920
be healthy by at the beginning of
the season. But as long as you

1395
01:31:01.920 --> 01:31:05.520
can stay healthy, that defensive line
eats. But obviously you be a little

1396
01:31:05.560 --> 01:31:09.680
more comfortable. The interior defensive line
is gonna be nasty. They're gonna have

1397
01:31:09.680 --> 01:31:14.319
a rotation of guys that are angry, aggressive and play very well. And

1398
01:31:14.560 --> 01:31:17.720
the main reason I want another and
we're not. We haven't no way in

1399
01:31:17.760 --> 01:31:21.520
hell that you're gonna have faith in
Davenport given his track und we haven't talked

1400
01:31:21.520 --> 01:31:27.800
about Josh fucking think that this kid's
gonna stay healthy majority of the season or

1401
01:31:27.880 --> 01:31:30.760
just just put that much faith in
it happening. It's just insane to me.

1402
01:31:30.800 --> 01:31:32.960
We haven't talked about Josh Pascal or
John Cominski at all either, two

1403
01:31:32.960 --> 01:31:36.720
guys that can play both positions into
your and Josh still a young guy who

1404
01:31:36.720 --> 01:31:40.760
continue to kind of grow it there
as well. And we talked about how

1405
01:31:40.840 --> 01:31:43.960
Josh is the type of player that
Trell Davis likes the mold and get his

1406
01:31:44.039 --> 01:31:47.680
hands on. So I guess I
don't draft on needs, that is what

1407
01:31:47.720 --> 01:31:49.600
he answer. But I was gonna
say it is the fact that they were

1408
01:31:50.439 --> 01:31:55.399
rumored obviously to take Darius Robinson if
they had stayed at twenty nine. Does

1409
01:31:55.439 --> 01:31:58.720
that Does that change your mind at
all? That actually know it wasn't gonna

1410
01:31:58.720 --> 01:32:00.479
trade Hut for Darius. That change
your mind at all? On Pascal,

1411
01:32:01.520 --> 01:32:04.159
there's more a bp A. It's
bp A. I knew that was a

1412
01:32:04.199 --> 01:32:10.039
guy they loved in the versatility like
they drafted Wingo as well as a firsatile

1413
01:32:10.039 --> 01:32:14.000
guy who they'd like his ad rushing
upside. It's all about So Yeah,

1414
01:32:14.039 --> 01:32:18.560
I'm not I'm not mad at that
at all. Yeah. I hope the

1415
01:32:18.600 --> 01:32:23.840
gadge and whether it happens to training
camp or it's the Chase Young piece that

1416
01:32:23.880 --> 01:32:29.079
I wanted last year. Like it's
yell, David, I did actually have

1417
01:32:29.159 --> 01:32:35.880
something in here, man, I
will do it. I had something in

1418
01:32:35.920 --> 01:32:40.880
here because I had this genuine question
and I should did it. Yesterday upon

1419
01:32:40.880 --> 01:32:43.800
the news of like uh him saying
that he wants to re sign off the

1420
01:32:43.880 --> 01:32:47.800
highest priority with people that are like
JG's top five and you know that section

1421
01:32:47.880 --> 01:32:51.319
of fans. Yeah, if you
were, what do this deal have happened?

1422
01:32:53.319 --> 01:32:57.920
That's kind of what it's. I
know they were saying it on ninety

1423
01:32:57.920 --> 01:33:00.880
seven one a lot yesterday that that's
kind of what Brad Holmes like made it

1424
01:33:00.920 --> 01:33:05.319
sound like that it's like it's on
him. Yeah, like they put it

1425
01:33:05.359 --> 01:33:09.439
on the table, it's on Golf. They're trying to get it done.

1426
01:33:09.720 --> 01:33:12.560
Yea. They gave him the deal, they've been trying to get it Done's

1427
01:33:12.560 --> 01:33:15.039
actually a great yeah. Yeah,
like if it was if it wasn't on

1428
01:33:15.520 --> 01:33:17.560
him, Brad Wood he came out
and said that, you know, they're

1429
01:33:17.680 --> 01:33:21.840
ongoing, uh ongoing discussions, we're
trying to get this done, blah blah

1430
01:33:21.880 --> 01:33:25.520
blah. But he said, like
we hope we can sign him. We

1431
01:33:25.560 --> 01:33:29.560
put it out there. Yeah,
And then I guess that goes for like

1432
01:33:29.600 --> 01:33:32.000
the fans, it's the years.
He'll take less money. He's a team

1433
01:33:32.039 --> 01:33:35.720
guy. I don't think that's the
situation. Clearly, otherwise he'd be signed.

1434
01:33:36.000 --> 01:33:39.039
I think it's the years. I
don't think it's the money. I

1435
01:33:39.079 --> 01:33:44.159
don't. I really don't think they're
going to be gridlocked over a two million

1436
01:33:44.199 --> 01:33:45.720
dollar difference. Like, I don't
think that's what it is. I think

1437
01:33:45.720 --> 01:33:50.279
it's the years. We got a
call who we got Nick? Very special?

1438
01:33:50.520 --> 01:33:56.039
Caller shout out, gun guy?
Take your pants out? Okay,

1439
01:33:58.520 --> 01:34:02.479
where's he? Did he see it? I don't hear him? Should be

1440
01:34:02.680 --> 01:34:08.039
what the fuck? Damnit? Nick? You got so excited? Can you

1441
01:34:08.079 --> 01:34:11.319
hear me? If you hear him? We can't. Can you guys hear

1442
01:34:11.399 --> 01:34:14.239
him? No? We can,
We cannot. How about now, gun

1443
01:34:14.319 --> 01:34:18.039
guy? Nope, nope. I
try to more things, So just mess

1444
01:34:18.079 --> 01:34:19.880
with it while we're talking. If
we hear them, we'll just yeah,

1445
01:34:20.399 --> 01:34:24.560
care on that conversation. Yeah Kee
pressing buttons just don't turn us off.

1446
01:34:26.920 --> 01:34:30.119
Somebody asked him over sports chat.
They said, easy, what about that

1447
01:34:30.239 --> 01:34:32.479
rookie comment? Which I was really
excited. I know. I don't think

1448
01:34:32.520 --> 01:34:35.640
we've ever called in before. People
are calling in. We just can't figure

1449
01:34:35.640 --> 01:34:41.399
out the phones right now. He
died call, so he took his pants

1450
01:34:41.479 --> 01:34:45.159
off, bob himself. What was
I talking about before? What were we

1451
01:34:45.239 --> 01:34:48.199
talking about? Jared Goff? Oh, the JG stuff. Yeah, the

1452
01:34:48.239 --> 01:34:53.439
deal is not getting done. I
think I think that just misses a lot

1453
01:34:53.520 --> 01:34:57.079
of the narrative that one people say
is take us, which we already knew

1454
01:34:57.079 --> 01:35:00.520
was kind of bullshit anyway, Like
when people would say that the way we're

1455
01:35:00.560 --> 01:35:02.239
hoping for our training camp cut to
come, that's the same there's Yeah,

1456
01:35:02.239 --> 01:35:05.680
there's no such thing as a hometome. Yeah, it's is wild. But

1457
01:35:06.159 --> 01:35:13.279
anybody you well, he clearly not
valued at in the way he thinks he

1458
01:35:13.439 --> 01:35:15.720
is. Yes, like he obviously
thinks he's valued at something higher if this

1459
01:35:15.840 --> 01:35:21.600
something isn't done. And that also
helps out your boy here and the arguments

1460
01:35:21.640 --> 01:35:26.279
hop and make all right, he's
in the best position to do what he's

1461
01:35:26.319 --> 01:35:29.640
doing. What's his boning off his
mind? Yes, but it's a position

1462
01:35:29.720 --> 01:35:33.840
where a lot of these human beings
that play that position almost swear thrive.

1463
01:35:33.960 --> 01:35:39.760
They would thrive. And that's okay. I have two plus thousand yard rushers

1464
01:35:39.800 --> 01:35:44.359
from scrimmage. Yeah, Ejamier Gibbs
and Dave Montgomery. Every quarterback that has

1465
01:35:44.439 --> 01:35:47.000
that behind him is probably gonna win
some game, probably gonna do pretty well.

1466
01:35:47.119 --> 01:35:49.720
Let alone does that. I do
gotta. I gotta call him out

1467
01:35:49.720 --> 01:35:53.960
by name because I like his work. I'm a fan. But Rico a

1468
01:35:54.119 --> 01:35:58.159
ninety seven one to Day was talking
about, uh, how he he like

1469
01:35:58.319 --> 01:36:00.760
loves God. He thinks the Lions
golf more than golf needs the Lions.

1470
01:36:01.039 --> 01:36:04.119
And he's talking about how not a
lot of guys can do this, and

1471
01:36:04.199 --> 01:36:06.680
he's a forty nine Ers fan,
and so he was like, look at

1472
01:36:06.680 --> 01:36:14.479
the forty nine ers, dude,
that's what I swear to God. He

1473
01:36:14.640 --> 01:36:17.600
was like, you bring in brock
party because Jimmy Drew Garoppolo couldn't. Jimmy

1474
01:36:17.600 --> 01:36:21.399
Groppolo got you to a fucking super
Bowl, the same thing brock Purty has.

1475
01:36:21.520 --> 01:36:24.640
Like, what is Brock Purty done? That's so much better than what

1476
01:36:24.760 --> 01:36:28.359
Jimmy Garoppolo has done. It's the
same exact fucking thing. Like, that's

1477
01:36:28.640 --> 01:36:31.680
the forty nine Ers are the example
you're shouldn't be arguing. You shouldn't bring

1478
01:36:31.760 --> 01:36:35.000
up at all, because it's the
example that proves guys can get plopped into

1479
01:36:35.039 --> 01:36:39.439
that system and do fucking well.
I would have called it and shout a

1480
01:36:39.520 --> 01:36:42.600
hat on top of his head.
What an awful, awful, awful fucking

1481
01:36:42.640 --> 01:36:45.479
take to have as a forty nine
ers fan. Absolute utter garbage. Can

1482
01:36:45.520 --> 01:36:49.000
you guys hear a gun? Guy? No, Nope, let's go to

1483
01:36:49.000 --> 01:36:53.880
break. Every time I press on
there he goes out. It's gonna break.

1484
01:36:54.279 --> 01:36:57.520
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oh, man, unbelievably unbelievably attractive. You are just unbelievable. I'm swoon

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01:39:10.760 --> 01:39:13.960
and it's just her, dude,
I'm telling you, she does something different

1509
01:39:13.960 --> 01:39:15.880
too. No, I happened to
day too with someone else. Yeah,

1510
01:39:15.920 --> 01:39:18.560
but that is that's just every day. Yeah, day is like strong.

1511
01:39:18.840 --> 01:39:21.960
I'm so excited. It's because she's
here. She's getting my gears turned.

1512
01:39:23.079 --> 01:39:26.399
Bro. All right, I have
a little bit of a concern and I

1513
01:39:26.600 --> 01:39:29.039
can continue to pick on your guys
with a g stuff. I'll wait till

1514
01:39:29.119 --> 01:39:30.600
Monday. Monday's a lot more people
in here. I watch the phone lines

1515
01:39:30.600 --> 01:39:32.880
are working in. I would like
to hear what you guys got to say

1516
01:39:32.880 --> 01:39:36.640
on that one. Not Allion's hater
you guys. Obviously, I'm alliance fan.

1517
01:39:38.840 --> 01:39:42.239
And it's not a concern. It's
more so a question because what are

1518
01:39:42.239 --> 01:39:47.680
the expectations hearing? Are they elite? Because I I don't I'm not comfortable

1519
01:39:47.720 --> 01:39:54.039
setting that for Damn sure you're one, but I just mean overall, obviously,

1520
01:39:54.039 --> 01:39:58.199
I think you'll contribute to us winning
games. But more specifically, the

1521
01:39:58.279 --> 01:40:01.119
things that I was looking at is
I asked you Lucas top five cornerbacks in

1522
01:40:01.159 --> 01:40:03.680
the game. Yes, I'm sorry, it's in history. Yes, in

1523
01:40:03.680 --> 01:40:06.439
the NFL chat if you listen,
if you're if you have a keyboard in

1524
01:40:06.479 --> 01:40:11.920
front of you, type in the
top five cornerbacks today. Whenever I did

1525
01:40:11.960 --> 01:40:15.640
the same today. Ask you guys
as well. Common theme with a lot

1526
01:40:15.640 --> 01:40:21.279
of those guys, fast fast,
fast, fast forties reves four three eight

1527
01:40:21.479 --> 01:40:26.000
four three eight exactly. I didn't
know that in I didn't say to him,

1528
01:40:26.039 --> 01:40:30.439
I had Oh fuck, if you're
sure, sure wasn't that fast?

1529
01:40:30.600 --> 01:40:34.319
But sureon played zone heavy. Yeah, we are not unless we're gonna stay

1530
01:40:34.319 --> 01:40:39.039
in that man' zone split. But
obviously AG's voice in his opinion that he's

1531
01:40:39.119 --> 01:40:42.800
not in love with that style.
He'd rather go man Arnold's forty or five,

1532
01:40:44.000 --> 01:40:47.279
four or five flat. But I
haven't found anyone the closest one.

1533
01:40:47.319 --> 01:40:51.119
I think I think I found a
few four fours. What was Rake shows

1534
01:40:51.680 --> 01:40:55.600
rak Is Shaw? I think he's
a four or five as well. At

1535
01:40:55.680 --> 01:40:59.640
least he had the foot injury.
That is a great point. I'll counter

1536
01:40:59.720 --> 01:41:02.600
you by saying, how fast does
Brown Branch look on a football field,

1537
01:41:03.239 --> 01:41:10.800
Bryan Branch exactly. Difference is therefore
he's playing the nickel he's playing. I

1538
01:41:10.840 --> 01:41:14.439
mean you heard Alexgelone. I think
we played on this show like his roles

1539
01:41:14.520 --> 01:41:16.760
kind of roam around, do whatever. If he's gonna play the outside cornerback

1540
01:41:16.800 --> 01:41:21.880
position again, not I'm not tripping. I'm really not. My My question

1541
01:41:23.079 --> 01:41:28.800
is, though, will we see
Sauce Gardener? I mean, speaking of

1542
01:41:29.039 --> 01:41:31.560
when, what's his forty Sauce?
I don't know what was Charles Charles Woodson's

1543
01:41:33.159 --> 01:41:36.159
jay z yep, just what I
was getting to four four four for Charles

1544
01:41:36.159 --> 01:41:40.960
Woodson still not the four five.
Frank Shaw ran four five one. Remember

1545
01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:43.960
he did have a footage and Champ
Bailey was a four to eight. God

1546
01:41:44.119 --> 01:41:48.239
damn, That's what I'm saying.
Obviously, Deon Sanders, yes, is

1547
01:41:48.239 --> 01:41:51.720
like another four to two guy.
Let me look at I'm actually kind of

1548
01:41:51.720 --> 01:41:58.199
curious. Santa's forty time was for
yeah, four two seven, like not

1549
01:41:58.359 --> 01:42:02.279
tripping again. But if we're gonna
be in this man heavy scheme, even

1550
01:42:02.359 --> 01:42:08.479
a g fast forty, I'm just
looking for names around that four or five

1551
01:42:08.520 --> 01:42:13.039
area. And I get it's not
all straight forty time, but obviously those

1552
01:42:13.079 --> 01:42:16.319
guys are tremendously faster than our guy. I think it can work in the

1553
01:42:16.399 --> 01:42:20.399
Richard Sherman situation, but that's not
what we deal with on defense. It's

1554
01:42:20.439 --> 01:42:25.079
not AG's philosophy on defense. He
likes the man situation. We've been in

1555
01:42:25.159 --> 01:42:28.279
man zone in the past two years. Because that's what it's the vegetables he

1556
01:42:28.319 --> 01:42:30.840
had to work with. Would you
find Sante Samuel ran a four or five?

1557
01:42:30.640 --> 01:42:35.840
Are you sure? Four four nine, four four nine for Sante Samuel

1558
01:42:35.920 --> 01:42:41.680
senior not junior? Oh yeah,
four four nine was gonna. I was

1559
01:42:41.720 --> 01:42:44.520
gonna look up, not him.
I can't speak to his own or man.

1560
01:42:44.520 --> 01:42:45.840
I'm appycure he was many man,
for sure. He's with the Eagles

1561
01:42:45.880 --> 01:42:49.000
back then, NA be awesome.
It was a four four five. Antonio

1562
01:42:49.079 --> 01:42:55.319
Cormardi was a four to four seven. And you said Arnold comes out,

1563
01:42:55.520 --> 01:43:00.800
I mean point zero three faster.
It matters his difference, not really,

1564
01:43:01.000 --> 01:43:03.880
there's a difference between a good run
and a bad run. I bet if

1565
01:43:03.880 --> 01:43:06.159
you brought Terry On Arnold out here
right now, he could run a four

1566
01:43:06.159 --> 01:43:10.680
four seven. But he also didn't
do his prota. I think his proday

1567
01:43:10.720 --> 01:43:15.359
ran a four five as well.
Well, what's his name? I'm not

1568
01:43:15.479 --> 01:43:17.159
tripping, I'm just asking, like, do you see it being elite?

1569
01:43:17.319 --> 01:43:21.720
That's all I do. I can
see it an elite as long as he's

1570
01:43:21.800 --> 01:43:27.359
utilized the correct way. I think
he's got the hips cline m chanistry.

1571
01:43:27.359 --> 01:43:30.720
Four four seven. It's a blazing
four four seven. I mean, I

1572
01:43:30.760 --> 01:43:32.920
remember it's being discussion around him too
at the combine, but obviously the tape

1573
01:43:32.960 --> 01:43:35.800
is there. It's just Headrick certain
is a four to four to two.

1574
01:43:36.760 --> 01:43:42.479
He played man in Alabama though,
so there there's that. He's got great

1575
01:43:42.560 --> 01:43:45.960
hips. He's obviously got it between
the head. Every time he's asked,

1576
01:43:45.960 --> 01:43:48.000
the question refers it back to,
you know, working hard or winning the

1577
01:43:48.079 --> 01:43:51.680
damn Super Bowl. Yeah, what's
the chat saying what we got? I

1578
01:43:51.720 --> 01:43:55.359
mean I already actually know what the
chats saying. The same people said Jagof's

1579
01:43:55.359 --> 01:43:59.039
top five, they're gonna tell me
he's All Famer. Just what I'm gonna

1580
01:43:59.079 --> 01:44:03.159
read it anyway, BB Yeah crazy
if we allow ten seconds for QB to

1581
01:44:03.199 --> 01:44:08.399
throw, Yes, a slower quarterback
needs quarterback needs safety help. That's true.

1582
01:44:08.760 --> 01:44:12.439
I've actually really ever agree with Apollo. I usually definitely. Yeah,

1583
01:44:12.520 --> 01:44:15.880
guys, sorry, the phones aren't
working, so it's not it's all mixed.

1584
01:44:15.079 --> 01:44:17.119
Go ahead and pin that number,
Chris. Yeah, you can just

1585
01:44:17.119 --> 01:44:21.800
look like Nick Eggs at this point, Nick broke the phones. Oh yeah,

1586
01:44:23.079 --> 01:44:28.039
real cup energy had full lines all
football season. Fellas never had one

1587
01:44:28.199 --> 01:44:31.359
issue. Oh yeah, yeah,
Nick sucks. Yeah, I'm smashing like

1588
01:44:31.399 --> 01:44:35.760
one for Nick's last day. Yeah, with twenty thousand people watching cooking,

1589
01:44:35.920 --> 01:44:40.720
cooking under pressure, but with what's
going on right now, my fault.

1590
01:44:41.000 --> 01:44:44.159
I'll take it there. Nick,
Let's go happy Friday, have a great

1591
01:44:44.199 --> 01:44:49.479
weekends. Fellow's stay safe. It's
my last yo cup TJ says. He

1592
01:44:49.520 --> 01:44:57.479
said, it's all the hips and
the hips, it's all shot out it

1593
01:44:57.800 --> 01:45:00.920
hims. I don't know where he's
at, but all in the heaves.

1594
01:45:00.800 --> 01:45:05.199
Yeah, listen, that's another I'm
just excited to see him play. I'm

1595
01:45:05.279 --> 01:45:11.720
I need it. He is so
bad. I need it like oxygen.

1596
01:45:11.960 --> 01:45:15.520
But honestly, dude, I need
the Lions to have another fucking lockdown cornerback

1597
01:45:15.640 --> 01:45:19.399
so bad. Like it's so important. It's so important in this NFL to

1598
01:45:19.520 --> 01:45:27.439
have a lockdown cornerback. What good
team doesn't have one? Madavious War for

1599
01:45:27.479 --> 01:45:33.159
the Niners obviously gets Snead and McDuffie. I think is McDuffie's better. Yeah?

1600
01:45:33.319 --> 01:45:38.199
For the Chiefs, who was else? Marlon Humphrey. For the Ravens,

1601
01:45:38.840 --> 01:45:43.039
Eagles got no one. I mean
Slay and when they were really good,

1602
01:45:43.199 --> 01:45:45.920
Slay and Bradbury both head locked.
So I saw people a lot of

1603
01:45:45.920 --> 01:45:51.079
people bitch about the playoff thing that
was flown out there. Fox NFL prediction

1604
01:45:53.079 --> 01:45:56.600
not tripping, don't give a fuck, just a prediction. But people are

1605
01:45:56.640 --> 01:45:58.720
sleeping on the Eagles. In my
opinion, the Eagles. I think the

1606
01:45:58.760 --> 01:46:00.000
Eagles are going to be a lot
better than they were last year. DJ

1607
01:46:00.159 --> 01:46:04.239
DJ Cooper de John just at the
safety spot on Mitchell when Mitchell yeah,

1608
01:46:04.399 --> 01:46:11.079
I mean, then added Bryce Huff. You got Vic Fangio and Kelli Moore.

1609
01:46:11.680 --> 01:46:14.720
I think they grabbed the linebacker two
to finally, because the guy that

1610
01:46:14.800 --> 01:46:16.560
we almost made thirty thousand dollars off
of being drafted in the first round but

1611
01:46:16.600 --> 01:46:20.920
did happening, he's not showing up. Yeah, and NI Kobe Dean,

1612
01:46:21.119 --> 01:46:25.359
Yes, he ain't really doing it
there. They very clearly missed TJ.

1613
01:46:25.560 --> 01:46:29.520
Edwards. Sure shout shout out Apollo
in the chat. Hear me out.

1614
01:46:29.600 --> 01:46:31.399
Could it could be a good thing
that the scouting report says, throw it

1615
01:46:31.479 --> 01:46:36.239
deep Ontarion and Branch, Yes it
could. You got Kirby Joseph playing center

1616
01:46:36.319 --> 01:46:40.199
field. Like I said, I
think Kirby Joseph is going to lead the

1617
01:46:40.239 --> 01:46:45.359
league in interceptions next year. And
there's a reason for that. They did

1618
01:46:45.439 --> 01:46:48.720
not draft the linebacker did they sign? Oh no, they didn't draft Jeremi

1619
01:46:48.840 --> 01:46:53.800
Trotter, which actually do like like
Jeremi Triter for them a lot. Yeah,

1620
01:46:53.800 --> 01:46:57.800
they got Trevor Eagan. Yes,
and they actually had a really good

1621
01:46:57.880 --> 01:47:00.319
draft the Eagles always had. I
not too familiar with Hunt On, a

1622
01:47:00.359 --> 01:47:06.560
Houston Christian, but obviously I like
I like Cooper Gene. I've been records

1623
01:47:06.560 --> 01:47:12.000
saying he'd be in All Pro the
safety position. Jeremi Trotter, I like

1624
01:47:12.159 --> 01:47:14.319
the guy sandwich in between there.
I don't. I'm not really familiar with

1625
01:47:14.439 --> 01:47:18.199
Hunt Shipley, but jeremih Trotter,
Apollo Apollo and the wilverd sports chase.

1626
01:47:18.399 --> 01:47:23.880
His game forced bad passes deep from
opposing offenses. Kirby is about to eat.

1627
01:47:25.319 --> 01:47:30.520
Game plan could force bad passes deep
from opposing offenses. Uh, Kirby

1628
01:47:30.640 --> 01:47:33.960
is about to eat. Uh?
Just a fan, easy now you love

1629
01:47:34.039 --> 01:47:38.199
c J. G J. I've
never said he was a bad player to

1630
01:47:38.279 --> 01:47:45.720
they's cancer said he's the worst safety
ever. I just said, I don't.

1631
01:47:45.840 --> 01:47:49.760
I don't think he was actually like
a true leader. Uh during that

1632
01:47:49.960 --> 01:47:56.079
that situation sign and I don't think
that he's five guys. Devin White was

1633
01:47:56.079 --> 01:48:00.560
a free agent. Devin White was
a free agent. Yeah, what,

1634
01:48:00.079 --> 01:48:02.439
we don't need him though I loved
him coming out of the draft back in

1635
01:48:02.479 --> 01:48:05.800
the day. But it's not.
This isn't the Devin White of Super Bowl

1636
01:48:05.880 --> 01:48:11.520
winning team. He was. Devin
White was bad last year? Yes,

1637
01:48:12.319 --> 01:48:15.760
there you remember remember? Actually,
like Summer came on and told us,

1638
01:48:15.840 --> 01:48:17.680
like, he's not good anymore.
That's what I say. There's actually conflicting

1639
01:48:19.239 --> 01:48:21.560
sides of that. Like there's some
people who said he was bad. There,

1640
01:48:21.600 --> 01:48:24.840
some people said he was good.
I mean their podcasts, one of

1641
01:48:24.920 --> 01:48:31.840
them too. I didn't watch stank. I love those guys are awesome.

1642
01:48:31.840 --> 01:48:34.279
I'm going on there next week.
You want to come with me. Let

1643
01:48:34.319 --> 01:48:38.680
me see what day they said we
should wear suits and do step brothers.

1644
01:48:39.119 --> 01:48:42.000
I'm down, or like, I'll
just sit behind you and then yeah,

1645
01:48:42.000 --> 01:48:45.720
every time he's so funny. Honestly, I'm down. That would be funny.

1646
01:48:46.439 --> 01:48:50.359
We have to go to break.
Nick tell us about the Morning Woods

1647
01:48:50.359 --> 01:48:59.560
show for the last time you heard. Yeah, if you are not waking

1648
01:48:59.640 --> 01:49:02.319
up and I'm immediately thinking of throwing
on wake up woodwork, you are doing

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01:49:06.680 --> 01:49:11.439
JB and KG. Every morning it's
a good morning. They got hot takes,

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they got fire and you should wake
up with them every morning. Wake

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01:49:14.880 --> 01:49:21.920
up wood Word check it out.
Thank you to the Detroit Lions and Sheila

1653
01:49:23.000 --> 01:49:26.800
Ham for the best season in lines
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uh mail bag, Spencer, be
honest, you were about ready to

1677
01:51:05.560 --> 01:51:09.479
cost Peter out, aren't you?
Not? The show guys? I was.

1678
01:51:09.800 --> 01:51:12.119
I was about ready to yell at
him, not gonna lie, but

1679
01:51:12.199 --> 01:51:14.520
he was turning around. I was, yeah, dude, Like I said,

1680
01:51:14.560 --> 01:51:17.680
the smoking mirrors stuff got me,
the the regression stuff got me,

1681
01:51:17.760 --> 01:51:21.279
and then I forget what stuff James
and Williams stuff Yeah, I take four

1682
01:51:21.520 --> 01:51:27.359
receivers over. Yeah that was pretty
wild. Uh. Mail bag from the

1683
01:51:27.399 --> 01:51:30.439
away fan who needs it more?
Lions need a lockdown cornerback or the Wings

1684
01:51:30.479 --> 01:51:33.880
need a number one centerment Also,
it would be an honor Nick. You've

1685
01:51:33.920 --> 01:51:39.520
done a great job. Good luck
with your next game. Good luck,

1686
01:51:39.600 --> 01:51:45.560
Nick job. Definitely Detroit Lions a
lot closer to a championship and the Detroit

1687
01:51:45.600 --> 01:51:47.920
Red Wings are. I agree,
and I think the Red Wings have a

1688
01:51:48.000 --> 01:51:51.239
potential number one seat in their system
right now. Away fan, keep on

1689
01:51:51.359 --> 01:51:58.359
that fat Hog spirit brother, Fat
Hog Spirit mail bag. We're you gonna

1690
01:51:58.359 --> 01:52:05.239
work next? Nick? Mail bag? Uh? Easy? Where you were

1691
01:52:05.560 --> 01:52:11.159
suburban Ford Ferndale? Come check us
out? Doctor Clapan mail bag? Is

1692
01:52:11.199 --> 01:52:14.439
there a go fundme for poor little
mentally disabled kid you had on the show

1693
01:52:14.479 --> 01:52:19.199
earlier? Yes, it's actually you
can directly venmo spendmo racks and all proceeds

1694
01:52:20.399 --> 01:52:25.680
to buying food and beer. If
you don't have Vemo, I gotta hit

1695
01:52:25.720 --> 01:52:28.840
the grocery store. You can cash
up cashhag me thirty one. Love you

1696
01:52:28.880 --> 01:52:33.159
to Luigi Gaming. Um, I
think I saw another one, but you

1697
01:52:33.159 --> 01:52:38.039
actually read it from Yeah, that
was actually mail bag from the away fan

1698
01:52:38.119 --> 01:52:44.000
again update International Ice Hockey had America
versus Sweden Sweden one five three, Raymond

1699
01:52:44.000 --> 01:52:46.279
with a nice goal. Yeah.
And Raymond is also an alternate captain on

1700
01:52:46.399 --> 01:52:51.000
the Swedish team with Charles and had
Carlson and headmen. The fact that those

1701
01:52:51.039 --> 01:52:55.039
three were in that picture, Bron, it's crazy. Like I said,

1702
01:52:55.079 --> 01:52:58.560
Bro, he is a superstar.
Like we we watched the birth of a

1703
01:52:58.600 --> 01:53:02.279
superstar. He's getting back in Sweden
like Carlson and had been. That's that's

1704
01:53:02.439 --> 01:53:10.439
huge. This dude. I fucking
love Ken kell Man. Ken kell is

1705
01:53:10.479 --> 01:53:14.600
the goat, Ken Daniels. I'm
sorry, Ken Kells also the goat we

1706
01:53:14.680 --> 01:53:16.880
said we were gonna talk about earlier. Legitimate, actually do it. I'll

1707
01:53:16.880 --> 01:53:18.880
do this one in the mailbag real
quick too. What two teams do you

1708
01:53:18.960 --> 01:53:23.760
think will be worse NFL and have
a vacant head coaching position for Ben Johnson?

1709
01:53:24.119 --> 01:53:27.920
That's just that's I think. I
think Panthers could for sure do it,

1710
01:53:27.960 --> 01:53:29.520
but I don't know if he gets
fired. If he does, that's

1711
01:53:30.279 --> 01:53:32.439
lunacy going on, and that couldn't
be the Bills. This might be Sean

1712
01:53:32.520 --> 01:53:36.319
mcdermot's last year for the buff Bills, don't seems as a top worst team.

1713
01:53:36.359 --> 01:53:42.720
But yes, I definitely if stuff
doesn't go well, it's a great

1714
01:53:44.000 --> 01:53:47.079
that's probably the two Panthers Jets.
Paul Thomas, Yeah, dude, it's

1715
01:53:47.239 --> 01:53:50.000
crazy. Went to see Rams Bucks
twenty one? All right? I had

1716
01:53:50.000 --> 01:53:55.119
a mailbag for the completely forgot,
So let's throw up the NCAA photo.

1717
01:53:55.279 --> 01:53:59.319
Oh yeah, sir. I wonder
if the I like that bridge by the

1718
01:53:59.359 --> 01:54:01.399
way, I wonder if the song
is worthy of this song off Vultures?

1719
01:54:02.279 --> 01:54:08.199
Is he worthy of this? Now? It should have been It should have

1720
01:54:08.279 --> 01:54:13.000
been Cornelius Johnson. It's crazy,
not Cornelia Johnson, Will Johnson. It

1721
01:54:13.039 --> 01:54:15.000
should have been Will Johnson. If
it was gonna be a Mischian guy,

1722
01:54:15.079 --> 01:54:18.279
yes, no, they needed to
be a Michigan guy. They definitely needed

1723
01:54:18.319 --> 01:54:21.359
to be a Michigan guy Johns,
but it should have been Will Johnson over

1724
01:54:21.680 --> 01:54:26.159
over Uh, you know what.
Edwards showed down the championship game though,

1725
01:54:26.159 --> 01:54:29.359
I will say that, Yeah,
and Will Johnson's a lock to be a

1726
01:54:29.439 --> 01:54:31.359
top ten player, but it's just
the fact that he plays cornerback. I

1727
01:54:31.439 --> 01:54:35.520
mean I just listen. Yeah,
but he's like the face of like,

1728
01:54:36.119 --> 01:54:40.319
you know, Buffalo Right now,
he's gonna be so he's gonna be He's

1729
01:54:40.319 --> 01:54:45.359
gonna be better than what he's gonna
be. They asked I. I was

1730
01:54:45.399 --> 01:54:47.199
listening to a podcast and they said, are you gonna throw Will Johnson at

1731
01:54:47.279 --> 01:54:50.640
offense this season? And uh,
it was a hard pass, but that

1732
01:54:50.680 --> 01:54:54.439
would have been That would have been
sick though, to see him that there's

1733
01:54:54.479 --> 01:54:57.439
your different than Sea Woods in role, Travis Hunters enough an athlete that he

1734
01:54:57.520 --> 01:55:00.960
could do that, and they actually
he played Travis Hunterson'. I also was

1735
01:55:00.000 --> 01:55:03.520
looking at Edwards Heisman bets because without
Blake Corn, that dude's gonna be getting

1736
01:55:03.520 --> 01:55:09.039
the rock like NonStop, especially in
that offense. If Alex Org can't throw

1737
01:55:09.119 --> 01:55:12.560
the ball, they're just gonna be
feeding Edwards. So yeah, it's a

1738
01:55:12.720 --> 01:55:15.159
it's a long shot. I think
it was like plus five fouls. Maybe

1739
01:55:15.119 --> 01:55:18.319
I didn't take it, did not
take it. Sky Ogre says, oh

1740
01:55:18.399 --> 01:55:25.960
no, Edwards has the Madden curse. We don't know. Does it work

1741
01:55:26.000 --> 01:55:30.119
that way with I saw I did
see the Aiden Chiles alternate love that probably

1742
01:55:30.159 --> 01:55:35.560
gonna get that one. The Aiden
Chiles alternate cover, speed of alternates graphics.

1743
01:55:35.800 --> 01:55:40.960
I'm coping the coldest in the fucking
game, all right, Tarnold got

1744
01:55:41.000 --> 01:55:45.399
announced number zero, dude, shout
out, Yeah, graphics. Roman is

1745
01:55:45.439 --> 01:55:51.399
the absolute what my vibe graphics.
If you guys need graphics, hit this

1746
01:55:51.520 --> 01:55:56.520
guy up there. There's no one
better. He just got announce number zero

1747
01:55:56.600 --> 01:56:02.359
today. Yeah that's a new jersey. He's got the perforated holes with yes.

1748
01:56:02.760 --> 01:56:08.119
Yeah, dude, Roman Roman is
a Roman. Fire asked got if

1749
01:56:08.159 --> 01:56:11.199
you got and he does like one
off too, So you want something one

1750
01:56:11.279 --> 01:56:15.159
time for yourself? Sure for sure, Tattoo hit him up. I remember

1751
01:56:15.239 --> 01:56:18.479
he uh might hit him up run
next year during the Fantasy U. During

1752
01:56:18.520 --> 01:56:24.159
Fantasy last year pre like right after
the draft, I tried to trade for

1753
01:56:24.239 --> 01:56:28.520
Elijah Mitchell because I wanted Elijah Mitchell
really bad. Yeah, and or this

1754
01:56:28.680 --> 01:56:33.119
was two years ago. I tried
to trade him, uh, Josh Jacobs

1755
01:56:33.119 --> 01:56:35.880
for Elijah Mitchell. Yeah, and
he didn't do it. And then Elijah

1756
01:56:35.880 --> 01:56:40.279
Mitchell got hurt like week two,
He's like, you still want Elijah Mitchell?

1757
01:56:40.399 --> 01:56:45.680
I was like no, and then
Josh Jacobs that is Josh Jacobs fucking

1758
01:56:45.880 --> 01:56:50.520
like MVP season higher upside in Fantasy
Gibbs or Jacobs this year, Gibbs gips

1759
01:56:50.600 --> 01:56:56.000
Gibbs y PPR Hooker's not getting traded. Oh wow, he said to Ben

1760
01:56:56.079 --> 01:57:00.479
Johnson's new team. That's actually Nard
Robinson fell off after he was the cover.

1761
01:57:00.560 --> 01:57:01.800
It said three one three Kurt.
Yeah, but he was kind of

1762
01:57:01.800 --> 01:57:05.000
got figured out. I mean he
was kind of fluky anyway. But mail

1763
01:57:05.039 --> 01:57:09.600
Bag, how many draft picks will
we get? We trade Hooker to Ben

1764
01:57:09.680 --> 01:57:15.399
Jonson's new team. I don't think
trade Hooker. I mean, what did

1765
01:57:15.600 --> 01:57:19.600
well? Lance was a top ten
guy, so never mind. Yeah,

1766
01:57:20.279 --> 01:57:23.960
that changes it. That'll do it
for us today. Appreciate you all tapping

1767
01:57:24.039 --> 01:57:29.520
into the woodward heavyweights sports. Make
sure you smash that light bulbs more easy

1768
01:57:29.600 --> 01:57:31.359
for Nick, for Chris, I'm
spending. Have a great weekend, Stay

1769
01:57:31.439 --> 01:57:33.279
safe, see you guys on Monday. Peace