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For thirty five years, Cindy Stumpo
has been a female homebuilder with a passion

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for design, a mastery of detail, and a commitment to her crack.

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With daughter Samantha Stumpo by her side, I don't need my whole family on

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a date with me. That's a
good note. It's goddemn weird. See.

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Stumpo Development is the only second generation
female construction company in the country.

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You're crazy, You're a wacko,
You're insane. I mean, it just

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doesn't end together. Cindy and Samantha
welcome guests to explore the world of construction,

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real estate, development, design and
more. Here unpredictable. Every time

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I think I know what you want, you'd switch it out. But that's

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what makes sure houses all Udy discuss
anything that happens between the roof and the

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foundation. Nothing is off limits.
You truly do care about everybody. She

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can yell at, you can scream, but when you get her alone,

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she's the best person on the planet. Cindy Stumpo is tough as nails and

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welcome to Cidey Stumpo Toughest Nails on
WBZ News Radio ten thirty and I'm Cidey

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stumpo and I'm here with who and
La Kenya Rivers? Sure, yeah,

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okay, as long as you know
your name? Okay, please, how

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is your bio? Yes, so
I'm La Kenya Rivers. I am a

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wife of almost thirteen years. Yeah, it's going good through the pandemic,

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right, that's all? Oh,
yes, exactly. I am the mother

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of five children. Yeah, three
that I birth and two of my bonus

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children. What's bonus bonus? My
step daughters? Okay, yes, five

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kids? We got the Brady Bunch
trouble. Yeah, almost, and then

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I raised my sister and then birth
a nonprofit. Okay, what is your

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sign? What are you? I'm
a liver, so i am. I'm

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a little bit of booth. I
have some good son and I have bad

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side if you get on my good
side, but you make a decision.

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Oh yes, okay, Oh yes, So you've been nominated for So I've

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been nominated for several awards. But
back in I want to say, I

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can't think of the year, but
I was unsunged. Right, my brain

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is already a scrambled egg with cheese. Not what I always tell them,

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But yeah, I was an unsung
heroin with the State House and the Women's

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Commission. And I took that and
leveraged Family Movement, which is a nonprofit

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agency working with homeless families. And
I started by just building self worth.

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Okay, but I'm still I want
to build your bio here. Okay.

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You were featured in Boston Herald as
a success story from young mother to role

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model. Yes, okay, let's
not forget that. You're also featured on

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the Chronicle right on wcvbm HM.
That was one of my hottest interviews,

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was the Chronicle. By the way, I know, and I don't know

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why I had. No, I
had a panic attack and I ran out

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the front of him and I had
to walk up and down the sidewalks and

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then come back in like, yeah, I don't know it was I had

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panck attacks. Oh my god.
But people should know you're back. Yeah,

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all right, go ahead and I'll
let you go. Yeah, so

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people to know. Yeah, no, thank you for pointing that out,

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because when it happens so long ago
and then you're in the trenches, yeah,

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you do forget. And I'm a
mom, I'm a wife, you

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know, in the community in church. Here's my question too, as another

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woman that seems to think she's superwoman
too. Did you get ten minutes yourself

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a day or do you wait till
like late at night that you get that

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time to yourself late at night too, when the house goes down everybody's sleeping.

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Yep, you get that half an
hour, forty five minutes and like,

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yeah, it doesn't matter it t
one o'clock in the wine, you're

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gonna stay up and enjoy that exactly. And at least once a month,

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I try to do some self care, but then my husband goes, oh,

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let me come along into a spot
day with you, and you're like,

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yeah, how about let's not and
say we did? Yeah, yeah,

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okay, But then it's nice to
have him around. So I don't

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know, listen, it is what
is is? I've learned Superwoman doesn't exist.

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I think you've learned that. How
old you know? Oh gosh forty

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two? Okay, So last time
you on my show was what five years

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ago? Five years ago? A
lot has changed in five years. I

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see beautiful, Yeah, no,
you look beautiful. She looks beautiful.

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I'm five years older now you're still
hot. Yeah you still I'm a milf?

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Yeah? Is there a new word? Is there a new word?

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After milth. Did anything new come
up? I don't think so. So,

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but in that five years that one
stuck, That one stuck came along

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because that was before what was that
dilf? What's a dilf? The opposite

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of milk? Oh? Whatever?
That means. Okay, you'll fill me

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in later. So in five years, how much has your life changed?

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Wow, because every five to seven
years it changes. Oh yes, yes,

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and I don't mean personal growth.
I mean in your business. Along

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with personal growth, you see life
differently. Yeah, years later, yep,

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five years ago. I think we
were on the show before the pandemic.

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Then the pandemic happened. Yes,
through the grace of God, we

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did not lose any income. We
actually the nonprofit actually gained income during the

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pandemic because we were helping more families
that was losing income. So my personal

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household, we actually with all that
free money that was going around, I

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know, I know, And so
it helped the families that we serve in

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the community. But in my personal
life, I felt like it it pivoted

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us to just kind of relax.
You know, my job went virtual.

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So a lot of the workshops that
we were doing with the families and the

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shelters. We went one virtual,
which was new for us because we've done

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work inside of the show. So
what has really tell me how you guys

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are doing now because a lot of
people might miss the show five years ago,

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So bring us back from then to
now absolutely, and what you guys

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have accomplished in that fart? Yeah? Yeah, So Family Movement was birth

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for my own personal experiences in two
thousand and nine, and we became a

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five to one C three in twenty
ten. And the reason why you did

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all this, Yes, let's go
there. I am a product of a

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mom who was a substance abuser,
so I constantly ran away from home.

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And in the midst of me running
away from can you imagine her running home,

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running away from home? No?
No, she's like so polyanna right,

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why she had kids there? You
go, right, yeah, but

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you're so you just don't look like
a girl that would run away from home.

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Like you look like a girl that'd
be afraid to run away from home.

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And honestly, I don't like a
girl that would run away from home,

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right, but you don't look like
a girl that would run away from

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home like you was just like two
eloquent and articulate and like, I'm the

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good girl in school, and yes, that's our thing. Homelessness doesn't have.

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You can go to a Dunkin Donut
and that person be homeless or living

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in a homeless shelter. So in
the midst of me running away from home,

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I became a teen mom. I
was eighteen years old when I had

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my daughter, and I was in
the shelter for a whole year, and

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I got every aspect of what I
needed to know as a teen mother,

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moving into my own apartment, transitioning
into the work and field, going back

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to school at night, and then
I said I want to go back into

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the shelter. Then that's where the
Boston Herald article came from, because I

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went into the homeless shelters and just
started pouring into these mothers that just needed

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to know that this is not where
you're predestined to be. You're going to

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leave here, You're gonna have an
amazing life. You're going to set your

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goals and a sword from there.
And what's the percentage in the homeless shelters

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that can do what you do.
It's a lot of tenacity to do what

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you did. I would say,
you give yourself a lot of credit for

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that. Absolutely, absolutely, I
will say on an assessment base, because

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the nonprofit Family Movement does do assessments
for every single client that we work with.

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They it's probably fifteen percent walk out
of there and are willing to go

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back. And that's what we do. We hire families that move out of

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shelter into their own apartments, and
we pay them to go back into homeless

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shelters around Massachusetts and do workshops.
We do twelve months. So hold on.

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You pay these women whoever that live
there and have moved on with their

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lives the fifteen percent to give back
their time. But they won't go give

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back their time for free. They
charge the organization. They know they won't.

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They'll go back, but it's just
our love offering to them. It's

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not even a payroll, it's a
stipend. You go back and you teach

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the women what you knew. We
do have experts that do the workshops for

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the families, but that workshop leader
is the one who kind of runs every

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day. Okay, well that I
thought we're gonna go to break. I'm

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Sidney Stumborley. Listen Toughest Nails on
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Pick it up where we left it
off for sorry. Yeah, so commercials

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make our radio show keep going,
no worries. So yeah, you had

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asked about the moms us paying the
mom's UH stipend, And yes, we

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do compensate their time. We value
their parenting because one of the workshops that

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we do with these families is parenting
skills. And so if they are going

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to leave their child to help us
do something to better another person's life,

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I got it. Yeah, we
do help daycaree exactly. Yep. Okay,

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so it's fifteen percent how the homeless
shelter is doing. Right now.

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I don't even want to go there
with you because right now I'm going to

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be very disappointed because I'm very disappointed
in our own city. What's going on?

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Right So here's this is my feeling. And I don't shave the truth,

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and I don't care. I don't
care. If I cared, I

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wouldn't have a radio show, right, Like, I believe, take care

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of our own people first. Absolutely. Okay, so I have a problem

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with what's going on in our state. I won't deny it. We have

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too many people in our state that
need our help. Homeless kids going to

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bed, hungry. We can get
into this deeper, right that. Now

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you come in across the border and
you're in Massachusetts, and you get a

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credit card, you get a cell
phone, you get a school, and

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you get medical, you get this, and that this is going to be

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making your organization crazy, like you
want to pull your hair out of your

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head. Yes, so explain to
my listeners. Yes, because there's a

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lot of us that feel your pain. Okay, we feel the same way

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as well, but we have to
be a little bit more non biased because

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they're also homeless. Right, So
let me back up Family Movement. We

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are a nonprofit agency, So if
you look at us, look at us

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as kind of like a once sit
you can be politically correct. That don't

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have to be, but go ahead, Okay. We're like a one stop

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shop. So we work with the
client and then we also work with the

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homeless shelters, the property managers,
realtors when they get to that homeowner stage,

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and all of the resources in between. So if they need a mental

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therapist, if they need anything with
physical awareness, and mental therapists are very

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hard to find right now, Too's
talk about that, right. Yeah,

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they're not on every street quarter anyoth
No, they're not no education, workforce

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development, financial literacy. So we
work with those experts inside of the homeless

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shelters. Right now, it's a
housing crisis like no other. In general.

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If we get a referral for a
family that's looking for housing, the

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list is bookoo long because of the
migrants that are coming in. So as

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the migrants come in and we don't
even know these people. We don't know

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where they grew up, we don't
know where they live, we don't know

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what they're coming in with. We
don't know if they're rapists, good people,

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murdered. We have no idea.
No, Okay, at least you

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can background check somebody that's homeless in
Massachusetts and figure out where they're raised,

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maybe who their parents were, weren't
young, you know, a teenager whatever.

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You have no cluees coming, but
you have to let them in and

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come together in these homeless shelters exactly. And a lot of them aren't even

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going into the homeless shelters because there's
no room. How's that going? So

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when they make room, then it's
probably a handful of families. So right

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now, a shelter, let's just
say shelter A, has twelve families in

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it. Usually when we do workshops, we don't do no more than twelve

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because we like to make a more
powerful impact. So if a shelter has

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twelve families and it one person moves
into stable housing, then maybe a migrant

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from wherever their house will go into
that shelter. So it's not like it's

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a group of them going into these
emergency shelters. What they have done with

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the migrants is they have they're now
opening up community centers. I know,

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they're opening up buildings. Some probably
are still at the airport, so they're

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housing them. And it's not just
the state of Massachusetts issue. This is

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a government issue now and because the
state allows it, these families exactly.

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So we've taken away a lot of
inner city areas for kids that go play

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basketball, hangout schools, that the
cafeterias. I'm surprised that the inner city

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kids and parents aren't actually losing their
minds because they should be. No,

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they are and We're hearing the complaints
as well because we are hoping to build

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our first brick and mortar in Dorchester
area, which is maybe about two blocks

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from where one of those community centers
was taken and turned into a migrant stationery.

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We were recently asked from the state
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and help with the migrants. So
we do have interpreters to help with the

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families. So it's it's by these
people to be calm a little off.

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I mean, what's been your running
So what I'm seeing on Twitter is not

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good. Yeah, I mean not
a lot of locations are provided with the

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workshops that these families need to get
back into the workforce. I'm seeing more

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men than i am seeing women and
children, so that's another thing. I'm

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not really on the South Shore.
There are women and children and limited men,

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so I'm not sure if maybe they
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But we have not started working with
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the shelters where we may have one
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migrants. No, it's it's it's
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I leveled up with the Brazilian community
they like fifteen eighteen years ago, right,

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and they came in. They were
hard working people, no trouble,

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never ever had any trouble in construction. They wanted to. They follow the

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Sabbath like Jewish people's Saturdays, the
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father like I of all the South
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and anybody that's listening knows that's a
big part of Massachusetts construction community. They're

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good guys. They own homes,
they've leveled up. They came here and

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said we're gonna go. We want
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trouble. And that's not what I'm
seeing. Like what I'm seeing, and

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I got to get off Twitter.
I gotta be perfectly honest because I go

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home. I go to bed every
night watching twenty twenty five videos. And

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that is absolutely for somebody like me
born on the cancer side. I'm so

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EmPATH and which my next time I'm
coming back as a Gemini, watch that

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night after night after night. Now
my whole algorithm is like that, right,

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you don't change your algorith I guess
start looking at birds and winding unicorns

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to change tonight, change my algorithm. At this point, you could even

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just talk about it and your phone
here's you, and it targets you,

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time, everything, everything on my
So I'll sense my friends and they'll go,

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stop changing my When you stop watching
this, it opens your eyes to

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the real world. And I like
to live in the real world. I'm

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not living in a world with flying
pink unicorns. My neighbors can do that

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in Brookline. My neighbors can do
that in Newton, right, they can

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do that in west and they can
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real life. I want to know
what's going on. That's me and I

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think you know. And I have
a fiance that goes, why do we

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need to see this? Because this
is the world we're living in. And

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if you like this world, then
good for you. But I don't like

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this world. And we've had conversations, real conversations as to why would you

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put migrants in a low income area
versus putting them in a area like Wellesley,

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New and exactly, But it doesn't
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So again, it's tough, and
it's a year in with all of this.

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Don't worry because there were the governor, don't worry, are trying to

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figure it out. They're all coming
out. They're just robbing. Yeah,

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okay, so we have a high
theft rate right now, extremely high theft

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rate. So they might not be
living there, but they're getting they're getting

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the Prodder and the Gucci and the
Rimez and the Rolexes and everything else and

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going somewhere else. Right So,
looking, we're all living in crazy times,

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crazy time, and the only ones
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politicians. Exactly and where that's going, I don't know, because Massachusetts as

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we know it seems to be look
at it's it's all over the world right

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now. Yeah, New York is
worse than us. New York's terrible.

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Yeah, Like who wants to go
there? I don't even want to go

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there anymore. Like, don't even
you invite me for a wedding. I'm

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not coming. I'll send you a
beautiful gifts. Do not I'm not coming.

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Don't expect me there. Last time
I was there was a year with

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I got COVID. I'm walking out. Gosh, Saint Regis. They tell

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me put my pocketbook, my jewelry
away. This is crazy. Don't go

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out there. I'm like, where
am I? I'm a Madison fifty fifth.

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What's gonna happen to me? Oh? I see what's happening now?

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I just went across street to get
a hot dog advanced. I'll have a

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hot dog when you landed. You
you gotta get a hot dog, right.

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I'm like, Okay, that's not
for me, but for what you're

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seeing out there is not making your
life any easier. It's making it heart

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tiring. And to any CEO leader
that's in the nonprofit world, I would

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like to just personally just make sure
you are doing some self care. Okay,

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hold that. I thought we got
to go to break again. I'm

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sitting stumping you. Listen to Top
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And I'm sitting stump Listen The Toughest
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Sammy, how are you doing,
honey? I'm good? How are you

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you? Hold on over there?
I am okay. I can't even call

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you my blondie anymore. You really
got to get over this. I'm sorry

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you've been a blonde up until six
months ago, Like seriously, Like you

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just go and change things after thirty
five years? Yeah, I do.

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Okay, Well, now I can't
call you my brunette because you're my blondie.

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She's my bondie now she doesn't I
don't know. She's beautiful. Yes,

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okay, she's got a kind he
Yes, Okay, we'll go back

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finish where we talk about because I
always love talking to you. I know,

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I think we were we were,
you know, just talking and I

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won't even tell you anybody why I
love her husband by to love her husbands.

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She'll tell her husband later, but
go ahead. Oh he'll love to

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hear that. Yeah. I think
it's just a matter of this whole housing

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crisis with the migrants and what are
they going to do here in our state?

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Tell me what the plan is?
Do you have a plan? No

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one has a planting off their hip, right, I think it's just going

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off the hip and trying to see
what the needs are. There was just

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a call last night with I don't
mean to interrupt you, but how many

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homeless people do we have on the
streets right now? In Massachusetts. So

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Family Movement works with emergency shelter families. The difference is these are single moms

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with children, so we work in
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without dividing those, it's about eighteen
thousand, probably more than that I've

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seen in the numbers lately. It
can vary between thirty six thousand. I

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know the mayor just did a whole
nother consensus on you know, couch surfing

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is also considered. Anyone that's doubled
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also be considered homeless as well.
All those numbers can vary between eighteen and

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thirty six thousand. And now with
the migrants, I haven't seen those numbers,

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but we're sure we don't want to
do it. I'm sure they have

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grown because they're everywhere. Now,
you being where you are in life,

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and you don't have to ask this
question if you don't want to answer,

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it's you don't have to. I'm
an open book, Okay. Would you

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just take strangers like this, not
American people? Would you take people not

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boring our country and just bring them
to your home with your five children?

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So and you have a big heart
and this is what I have and a

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big, big heart. And my
husband's like, you need to chills a

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little bit. I would say no, but I will find them a place,

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okay, And I make I respect
the honesty because some people won't answer

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that honestly, right, And you
just did and you give your whole life

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to this to homeless? How many
people have ended up from homeless to home

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ownership in our program? We now
have four families and our first male who

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just got preapproved to purchase his home. So we in Massachusetts so expensive.

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Yeah, yeah, this is our
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out there. We're literally the families
that are moving into home ownership they have

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experienced homelessness. So that's our program. Where this person that in our program

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that is purchasing a home, they
have been homeless before within the past ten

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years. Okay. Do they have
a job, yes, so we make

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sure oh yeah, there's definitely rules. We make sure that they are over

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kind of middle class, so about
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and how they go from homeless to
making fifty sixty thousand and so they find

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programs like ours, but we are
starting in the homeless shelters because we want

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these families to be very aware of
your financial literacy, your your financial security

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for your life. You teach them
how credit, every how credit works,

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yes, and how not to get
back in a problem that you got into

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in the first place, exactly,
and to not rely on the government,

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which we were just talking about,
right, they do not rely on the

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government. You work, you'll be
making more than what the government can give

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you if anything happens. Yeah,
it's yeah, we pride ourselves on the

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work that we do. Right now, the state has a program it's called

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home Base, So these families they
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home base, which is eighteen months. Explain that to me, yes,

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all right, So we always had
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we have now? So now it's
home base. So it's kind of Section

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eight is still out there, but
there's no new applications going out. They're

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trying to make the families become more
economic, you know, aware of where

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they're at currently on a Section eight
voucher and trying to wean them off of

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it. So now they have Section
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let's go, let's go back there. So home ownership, who writes the

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mortgage for that? Yeah, So
there's many banks that we have as a

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mortgage lender that will write like a
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and then because it's income restricted,
they are they can go into a

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mortgage loan that might have a lower
interest rate that might give them a little

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bit more down payment assistance, family
movement. Whatever our clients save over five

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thousand, we match them five thousand
dollars towards their down payment and or closing

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cost. So okay, so where
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home like we're the most Yeah,
so right now a lot of our families,

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we do have one that purchased right
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Sure for our families. One end
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just purchased in around the Framan yep,

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Framingham area. And then our mail
is just signing into a lottery to be

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placed in Boston. So he will
be our first one that will be in

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Boston. And he's married, he
has two children, He's not on any

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government assistance, he has a savings
over twenty thousand dollars and right now he

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is couch surfing, so him and
his family is living with family members.

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So he is literally our product of
homelessness to home ownership. So he's gone

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from homeless to couch surfing and now
he got a home. Yep, he's

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pre approved. So we haven't found
his home yet. Hopefully we'll have a

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follow up show for the yeah,
and we'll bring him in. Yeah.

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Yeah, that would be a great
success story. We need to bring some

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of these people in so the You
couldn't have ask for worse timing though for

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all this, right, I know
the interest rates are not where we would

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like them to be, but we
do encourage families if you see something that

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is within your pre approval, you
know, purchase and then kind of you

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know, refinance in the next six
six months or so. I don't know

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if you read the statistics on Massachusetts. Massachusetts is a great state, right,

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So I looked up like it was
something that came on my phone,

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so I looked it up. Massachusetts
is number one for IQ. You know

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that number one? Yeah? Google
that IQ highest of all the states.

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Is Massachusetts best place to raise a
family? Raise, raise children, have

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a family, Massachusetts number one.
We always made Newton, Massachusetts always made

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up until COVID the number one city
in the country as one of the most

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safest cities in the country. But
mass is changing, and people that live

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here are leaving, and they're low
They're going, you know, the rich

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are going, the middle class are
going, and the aulter rich are going.

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And this is when the politicians gott
to sit back and say, hold

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on, we're losing good people here. We're losing people that donate a lot

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of money, they give their time, they give to organizations, work hard.

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You start losing those billionaires and millionaires. You're running is stay down because

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there's too much reason. Look it, we don't live in Masters's for the

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beautiful weather, as you can say, right right. We live here because

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we make a living here. We
live here because I think we like the

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culture. There's so much culture here. We get to live among many different

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type of people, which is great, right, Like not we have a

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friend Sammy. What to s always
say in Texakonisha, everybody's just white or

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black. I'm like, yes,
shah, there's no such things just white

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people. Yes there is, they're
just white. There's no white Italians.

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No white Irish, no white Jews. I'm like waiting all the time.

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She says that wow and in Texakana
in her brain. So when she comes

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and she interns with me every month
for a couple of weeks and shaman Nique

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mannon and she's like, I've never
knew like white Jewish differre white Italian people,

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white Irish people. You people talk
about this, like, but that's

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what we do here, Like we
could be at home depot, Hey,

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where are you from? Where are
you from? Oh? I grew?

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Oh what's your mother? What are
you from? It's just like kind of

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normal here there. It's just no. She calls me to see stumble it

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just white. She say white Conca
when she say white white people, but

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she use another word, no whatever, and she's like, that's just how

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it is. I'm like and then
she asks people what are you? They

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don't say white, Irish, white
Italian. We're going to break hold.

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I thought, oh my own thought. I'm sitting stumping lit tough his nails

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on WBZ News Radio ten thirty and
be right back. Small by Newbrook Realty

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Group, Boston Wood Smaller Insurance,
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last many trying to get out of
this place. I was looking for something

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I couldn't repeat. I was running
from it all, and I'm soon stump

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on your back on WBC News Radio
ten thirty with Toughest Nails, I'm here

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with who Sammy's Temple and La Kenya
Rivers pick up where we left off.

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Yeah, so, I think you
know, with the transition of the home

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ownership after our family leaves stable housing, it's it's crucial for us, not

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just Family Movement, but any nonprofit
leader to really really teach the next person.

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I don't care if it's a family
member. Financial literacy, you know,

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anything that is going to help your
family grow and build generation no wealth.

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We are Our model is literally to
end generational poverty and build the generational

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wealth. So we partner with three
hundred financial advisors to bring them into the

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homeless shelters and teach them one on
one financial literacy. It's kind of like

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what Ray did this winter in Florida. Gave everybody one hundred dollars at the

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pool deck, the kids and said, you're opening an eight corn account.

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You've proved to me that you open
it up. I'm giving everybody one hundred

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dollars. And that's he's a wealth
advisor of thirty seven years. And these

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kids every day by the pool,
like when it was days that were nice.

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He comes out like one two o'clock
after working, and we work and

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we do both down there, you
know, try to get out there like

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three o'clock and go, hey,
where's the sun? And they just run

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over the way and they can't get
enough information. You've seen it. We

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look at this Ray, look at
that right, But he gives back.

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Yeah, because you've been doing something
for thirty seven years, thirty six years,

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you give back. That's it can't
take this with you when you go

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right. But there anywhere from working
the pool deck fifteen, sixteen, eighteen,

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even twenty eight, twenty nine,
and they're running over to Ray.

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Ray, look at look at this, Look at this right. Race has

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put five dollars a month away,
put ten dollars in it. Just teach

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consistency matter correct. Yeah, and
but somebody's going to show them. If

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they don't have the parents to do
it, then you help other kids.

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We realize that the homelessness that we
experience working with these families is that they

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have not because they know not,
and they ask not and they don't know

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how to ask because they don't know. What is more? Okay, the

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families that you work with, do
we have white families? Yeah? Hispanic

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we have maybe about five percent white
majority, maybe eighty nine percent are people

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of color of so black, Hispanic, Haitian, Creole, and then I

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think we had one Chinese, one
Asian failing. Where do you see?

435
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Where do you want to go in
the next year? Do you see coming

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at you guys? Yeah? So
what now do you need for help?

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Like my list is a listening Yes, so right now we need as much

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support just to get our name out
there, increase the visibility of family movement

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in the community, and mainly right
now we are having a building campaign launching

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right now. We have eighteen months
to build. The shovel to ground is

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supposed to be in the fall of
this year. So what are we building?

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Yep, So we're building a our
first office space, which round up,

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build, ground up, build Mayor
contractor. So right now Mayor will

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just awarded the lot to a developer
MTK. So this developer is doing it

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in honor of a former general contractor
who passed away. I never heard of

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contractor. Who's this it's called MTK
Development, Sammy, I never heard of

447
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them either. Yeah, I think
they're pretty MTK MTK. See that's weird.

448
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See why would she not give it
to somebody that's been around the Boston

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area a long time and that help
and gives some money towards it. But

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that's the thing, because when you
go with the notables, Yeah, the

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notable people, then I think what
the mayor is what she did was choose

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people that are that have the knowledge, that have the wisdom, that have

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the all of the eggs in the
basket to be able to build on one

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lot. There are many lots in
the city of Boston that they're trying to

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fill and they're trying to give opportunities
to people of color, whether it's a

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general contractor whether it's you know,
architect. We're the first community partner that's

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on this project. So there's a
developer that bought the property and they're using

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this builder. Yep, and then
it'll be stayed fun for the way Yep,

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city, city, m state funded. Cindy and city and state funded.

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Okay, I said, Cindy,
I think, yeah, did you

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look that up? No? Okay, So you're not fast enough. I

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need Jonathan being here because he like
gets things right. We know that you're

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toughing my nails. My service isn't
even not fast enough in here. Well,

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then bring a left topic. So
basically, the developer, like I

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said, bought the land. Yep. We don't know what he pays for

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the land. How many units are
coming in yep. So the bottom we

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will purchase. That's our goal to
purchase, so that it will be a

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one stop shop for the families and
the community above. It will be twelve

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to eighteen condos, not rental condos, condos, Okay, condos to sell,

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yes by lottery? Yes, where
were they at badly by? Where's

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MTK out of? So they're out
of Boston? I think Dorchester. So

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if I do MGA Construction Services out
of Pembroke, they're permanently closed. Yeah,

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you must be the word Boston.
Yeah, ye, Boston. So

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the developer will so sing makes money
because no one's working for free, as

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we know in America right like,
no one's working for free. So somewhere

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they make money, we just don't
know. I think it's once they sell

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the condos and once they sell the
bottom storefronts. So it's gonna be the

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first little commercial, yep, and
then residential above them exactly, and it'll

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be lottery sales only. But we're
hoping, we're praying that we can get

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at least two to four out of
the condos they are, so we are

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trying to raise funds for that.
They only do affordable have the so okay,

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so they only do affordable house and
can I see that from it a

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place so I can educate myself real
fast? Okay? Hold on, And

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they are brand new developers in the
community. Okay, so they're the empty

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Okay, they're the developers. Then
they hire the builders, yes, got

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it? Okay, And I think
I don't think they've gotten to that point

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yet. I think they're in the
middle of permitting and zoning. Well,

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hopefully they move it along fast because
right now everything is a slow motion too.

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But that's our you know, the
mayor should be pushing this faster,

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right Ye, we just had a
meeting. They said about eighteen months for

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the So I'm looking at the building. Bottom is commercial, top is residential.

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Every unit is affordable or only so
many units. Every unit is affordable.

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But when we looked at the affordability. It's about it's not affordable.

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Yeah, okay, but I can
give you an educated reason why that is.

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Okay. It's because to get skilled
labor and to buy product is so

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expensive right now, I believe it. Okay. So even if they give

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you the land for free and say
here, take this, they will have

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to You're still got to build it
out. And I'm telling you on boots

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on the ground it's expensive. Yeah. So this is what I don't understand

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is what are they going to sell
for because I know the price is to

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build, especially that's a brick building
by the way. Yeah, I think

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they were saying about four hundred thousand
per unit. Yep, and that gives

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you hommy square feet you know,
a pand or no, not off the

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top of my head. I'd have
to look it up. Yeah, but

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that sounds even low too. Yeah. So the profits small, but it

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helps families that want to stay in
the city at least stay in the city

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because of the whole gentrification that's happening
in the Roxbury Dorchester area. It is

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an opportunity and we're gonna you know, the funding hasn't even been discussed yet.

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Who's going to fund the construction,
but we were having that things were

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attendant. It's important because with you
know, and we don't have enough skill

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labor, we got product. That's
ridiculous. If they got to pay a

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stupid interest rate, it's it's just
not feasible for them to do it and

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be able to that. There lies
the problems. So the governor, the

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mirror, everybody's gonna pull in near
the city they us, I guess,

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but you can't tell a private bank. Okay, listen, if they want

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two through basis points over what they're
you know what the federate is, you're

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gonna pay it right unless the federal
government substance is okay, you can borrow

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00:39:17.599 --> 00:39:23.559
with this number. Well, there's
definitely funding for these lots that's being sold.

519
00:39:23.960 --> 00:39:28.280
So it's just a matter of the
funding, and you got to diversify

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it. So funding from the city, how much are you raising, how

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00:39:31.239 --> 00:39:36.960
much are you putting up grants?
We're applying for grants for this as well.

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We are diverse and fying off funds. We don't want this opportunity for

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00:39:40.199 --> 00:39:46.239
us and for the families to be
debt debt now, and what about trying

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to do this outside the commuter rails
like they can't aerate the Stote area where

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it's like a lot of where the
train goes right through the Debs housing.

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Yeah, we guys looked at that. We have been discussed to look into

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that, and I think our heart
is just serving within the community of Boston,

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of Boston, the low income area. Okay, let's go off to

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break. I'm Sidy Stumbor you listen
Toughest Nails on WBC News Radio ten thirty

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And I'm Sidy stumporing you listen to
the Toughest Nails on WBZ News Radio ten

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thirty. Bring us out, Yes, Sindy, Team Ross, Sammy,

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thank you guys so much. I've
been trying to get on here. Yes,

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so thank you so much. Please
please please follow Family Movement www dot

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00:40:51.840 --> 00:40:54.840
Familymovement dot com. We have a
community brunch coming up in June. We're

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00:40:54.840 --> 00:40:59.760
still trying to lock down to the
details for that, but stay tuned on

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00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:02.880
our website. We also have an
annual galla that we do that's called Unlocked.

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We are unlocking everything that pertains to
poverty and building generational wealth. And

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again, as I mentioned on here, we are we're fundraising for our new

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location wherever it will be right,
Cindy, let us know, let's know,

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and Ross took you a year to
bring it back on. Everybody,

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have a great, safe weekend and
we'll see you next weekend. This is

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Citdy Stumbotop his Nails on WBZ News
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