WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.359 --> 00:00:07.480 Breaking down all the exes at all. It's Steve Rivera and Jagen Salviax. 2 00:00:07.799 --> 00:00:13.279 This is I on the Ball on Fox Sports fourteenth. Hey, welcome back 3 00:00:13.279 --> 00:00:15.439 to my I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, 4 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:19.640 He's Jay. Now we have Ryan with the breaking news. This is 5 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:25.679 I on the Ball, breaking news on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. All right, 6 00:00:25.679 --> 00:00:30.320 it was funny right to start with the little news from University of Arizona. 7 00:00:30.719 --> 00:00:36.280 Former Wildcat Josh Green was traded yesterday to the Charlotte Hornets. It was 8 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:40.000 part of a three way trade that sent Clay Thompson to the Dallas Evericks. 9 00:00:41.079 --> 00:00:45.439 So that's what it's funny, because is that a good place or didn't don't 10 00:00:45.439 --> 00:00:49.320 the Hornets like suck? Yes? The funny thing about it is Green had 11 00:00:49.359 --> 00:00:53.600 a pretty good playoffs. He had a great final game, would have Game 12 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:56.840 five or whatever it was, and who would have thought, right? But 13 00:00:56.960 --> 00:01:00.759 now it's like I've said, it's a businessman. Yeah, what does our 14 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:06.120 resident MAVs fan think of this? I think it's a good pick up for 15 00:01:06.439 --> 00:01:08.799 for the Mavericks getting Thompson. I mean he's yeah, he had a good 16 00:01:08.840 --> 00:01:12.000 career. We always had a good career. I shouldn't say had. He 17 00:01:12.120 --> 00:01:18.239 had a good career with Golden State, and I think he I think he 18 00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:21.480 was MVP one year in the playoffs. Yeah, a long time ago and 19 00:01:21.519 --> 00:01:26.760 timing go, but I used to be thin. Yeah, no, not. 20 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:30.239 You know, Brian's gonna call it C Steve. It's always mean. 21 00:01:32.519 --> 00:01:34.959 The only thing, the only thing I'm concerned about is injury because he's had 22 00:01:36.200 --> 00:01:40.519 yeah, knee and achilles injury right while back, but he's he's good. 23 00:01:40.799 --> 00:01:44.079 Was Green? Did you follow enough to know that Green was so reasonable? 24 00:01:44.359 --> 00:01:47.120 Green was a good good fit for them? I was, I was actually 25 00:01:47.120 --> 00:01:52.959 hoping they wouldn't. Who would you rather have besides Green? Green or Thompson? 26 00:01:55.680 --> 00:01:59.359 That kind of tells you the answer. He's Thompson's older and Green's twenty 27 00:01:59.519 --> 00:02:07.360 four problemson Thompson's thirty four, okay thirty for m The onely thing I'm concerned 28 00:02:07.360 --> 00:02:13.360 about is injury, because he said, yeah, knee an achilles injury right 29 00:02:13.520 --> 00:02:15.919 while back, but he's he's good. Was Green? Did you follow enough 30 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:20.080 to know that Green was so reasonable? Green was a good good fit for 31 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:23.400 them? I was? I was actually hoping they wouldn't. Who would you 32 00:02:23.479 --> 00:02:30.840 rather have besides Green, Green, Green or Thompson. That kind of tells 33 00:02:30.879 --> 00:02:35.680 you the answer. He's Thompson's older, and Green's twenty four problems, Thompson's 34 00:02:35.759 --> 00:02:39.800 thirty four, okay, thirty four m thirty four right, and then Green 35 00:02:39.919 --> 00:02:44.120 is twenty four and not the help? So who would you rather have? 36 00:02:44.280 --> 00:02:47.120 Green? So it was a good trade. I mean, it's a good 37 00:02:47.120 --> 00:02:52.120 pick up. You know they're gonna have to lie to lie, is it? 38 00:02:52.240 --> 00:03:00.599 Steve Henderson from Southland Catholic who also played on the Canadian U eighteen women's 39 00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:05.400 basketball team in in a tournament a week or two ago. So she'll be 40 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:07.680 joined in I set about four to twenty so stick around for that. Okay. 41 00:03:07.719 --> 00:03:12.800 So this story caught my eye on ESPN. Former forty nine Ers safety 42 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:21.120 Deshaun Gibson has been suspended for six games for performance enhancing substances. Whoops, 43 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:27.199 big, You know everybody's everybody's getting confident now once again. I just don't 44 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:31.319 know, with all the technology that's available that these guys still do stuff and 45 00:03:31.319 --> 00:03:36.599 think that they're going to get get bye. Just don't find, you know, 46 00:03:36.719 --> 00:03:38.319 figure out a way to do to get to where you need to get 47 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:43.120 to without doing that. I don't understand, just me with so much, 48 00:03:43.280 --> 00:03:46.080 so much at stake, right one, you get suspended, you lose a 49 00:03:46.120 --> 00:03:50.719 bunch of money, and then that's your reputation for the rest of your career, 50 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:54.039 right that you that you did that, And there's questions somebody, you 51 00:03:54.080 --> 00:03:59.879 know, you might be trying to sign a contract and somebody might just say, 52 00:04:00.639 --> 00:04:01.639 you know, you know you've had this problem. I'm gonna take this 53 00:04:01.639 --> 00:04:05.159 other guy over here who's just like you but didn't have this problem. Right, 54 00:04:06.199 --> 00:04:10.439 Well, mean, and you've got social media nowadays, like everything's exactly. 55 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:13.680 You gotta be careful because everybody, somebody's watching. Everybody knows that somebody's 56 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:18.319 watching exactly. Going back to we were just talking about Josh Green going to 57 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:25.680 the Hornets or he's now a former Hornet. Kimba Walker has announced his retirement 58 00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:29.240 from the NBA. Yeah, how many years, Well he was only he's 59 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:32.319 thirty. He was drafted in twenty eleven, so thirteen years. Yeah, 60 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:36.079 he's on thirty four, thirty four, number nine overall from the Yeah, 61 00:04:36.079 --> 00:04:41.319 I remember he was the one your he was on the Yukon team that beat 62 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:48.439 Sean Miller's the Elite eight team. The the the Derek Williams steal. That's 63 00:04:48.560 --> 00:04:51.680 really all I had. Okay, that's cool. I think there's anything else. 64 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:55.839 I don't think there was anything else that I saw outside of that, 65 00:04:56.199 --> 00:05:00.279 outside of the storm going on outside the Brody and James. He got year 66 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:03.920 contract guaranteed contract to year guaranteed contract. I think it was two years. 67 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:08.399 But he is a guaranteed contract. So he'll be on that roster, playing 68 00:05:08.439 --> 00:05:11.839 with his father. If life is fair. I don't know if it is 69 00:05:11.959 --> 00:05:15.360 or not. I know it's not. Life Covers is saying that the over 70 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:18.680 under on his average points per games three three, three and a half. 71 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:25.079 I would say that's about right. Yeah. What about Paul George going to 72 00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:28.000 the seventy six ers. Yeah, we had that one yesterday, talked about 73 00:05:28.040 --> 00:05:30.000 that. Yeah, there's a lot of movement now. I think that because 74 00:05:30.040 --> 00:05:33.399 the free agency started a couple days ago. We were talking about the massive 75 00:05:33.399 --> 00:05:40.199 contracts, right, the massive contracts. Seventy million bucks for Jason Tatum. 76 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:45.399 Come on, man, oh, I saw that seven zero seven zero million 77 00:05:45.439 --> 00:05:49.639 to play basketball for a year. One of the funny things I thought that 78 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:57.040 Thompson going to Dallas one of the reasons why he picked Dallas was state state 79 00:05:57.120 --> 00:06:01.079 income, taxt there's no state. When you're making thirty fifty million, What 80 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:05.120 does that matter? Honestly? Stop? I guess if I mean, i'd 81 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:08.800 have let me know, let me know. I want to keep more of 82 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:11.319 my money. That's give me fifty million. I guess I'll find out if 83 00:06:11.319 --> 00:06:14.160 that's important. I got a quick question for you. For you guys, 84 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:18.639 well, where does Arizona and football need to finish in the conference to try 85 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:23.000 to get into the playoffs? Well, to get in the playff they're gon 86 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:28.360 have to finish no lower than second, But for fans to be happy with 87 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:30.879 it, I don't think it matters so much about where they finished in the 88 00:06:30.920 --> 00:06:33.680 league as the number of wins, right, But I think the number of 89 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:36.639 wins are well. And now that we talked about the YESA with the wins, 90 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:40.279 we got to go here. But I think your eight is good. 91 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:43.560 I like it. 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How are you I 166 00:11:56.759 --> 00:11:58.159 think, kid? How are you guys? Great? Thank you, thanks 167 00:11:58.200 --> 00:12:03.200 for joining us. A fantastic young life you've had. Now you're gonna be 168 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:07.360 where you've played for Team Canada's recently. How was that experience? I think, 169 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:11.960 honestly, it was such a great experience on and off the court. 170 00:12:13.000 --> 00:12:16.200 I feel like I learned so much and definitely grown as a person. Was 171 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:20.679 just even like half the lessons that I had to learn in adversity I had 172 00:12:20.679 --> 00:12:26.159 to face throughout this whole process. Where do you think you benefited the most 173 00:12:26.200 --> 00:12:30.000 from this experience in terms of do you think it was it just getting to 174 00:12:30.039 --> 00:12:33.559 play some more and you know, in great competition stuff like that, or 175 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:37.960 just the experience, the life experience, which do you think you got a 176 00:12:37.960 --> 00:12:41.360 little more out of or is it kind of about the same. Honestly, 177 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:46.519 I think they're pretty equal. But just being able to play with girls that 178 00:12:46.799 --> 00:12:50.519 are at the next level. There was a few girls that have already been 179 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:56.639 on the Team Canada team, so being able to play with people with experience. 180 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:58.600 Again, like I said, everybody's pretty much going to college. I 181 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:01.799 was one of the youngest on the team, so kind of getting that like 182 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:07.279 life advice and being having going to be like a mentor for me as I 183 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:11.559 go through the beginning hopefully of my long career, especially with Team Canada. 184 00:13:11.799 --> 00:13:16.879 It was awesome. What's the process because you're what you're junior or senior at 185 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:20.240 some point I'm about to be a senior sor So how did you get to 186 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:26.480 be on Team Canada? What's your connection? So? I was originally born 187 00:13:26.080 --> 00:13:31.039 in a small town near Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. My mom was 188 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:35.039 born there as well, so I have that I have dual citizenship. We 189 00:13:35.159 --> 00:13:41.360 moved here when my dad and my mom was finishing college and we kind of 190 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:45.799 just stayed here. So that was my connection. My mom played for Team 191 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:48.879 Canada as well, so kind of following in her her footsteps a little bit. 192 00:13:50.720 --> 00:13:54.039 But yeah, really it was just that and that blooms. I always 193 00:13:54.080 --> 00:13:58.120 wanted to play for Team Canada. That's like my connection to the country. 194 00:14:00.200 --> 00:14:03.519 I think that it's always been a goal to be like Olympics, and this 195 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:07.120 is this is just a step towards that goal, honestly. But do you 196 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:09.879 do you get invited? Do you have to get invited? Do you apply? 197 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:15.360 Do you tryout? Go to a tryout? How do you get on 198 00:14:15.399 --> 00:14:20.480 this team? So certain scouts kind of go and like see how you play 199 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:24.159 on whether it's club, whether it's film, whether it's high school, and 200 00:14:24.159 --> 00:14:28.240 then you get invited to try out, and depending on if you stand out 201 00:14:28.360 --> 00:14:33.879 or not, you get to go to another tryout and eventually being on the 202 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:37.639 team. I went to showcase last year kind of just showing because I was 203 00:14:37.679 --> 00:14:41.960 too old for the team that the main most most of the girls are trying 204 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:45.200 out for. So it's kind of a showcase to see what I can do, 205 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:48.679 kind of get familiar with the program. This year was my first try 206 00:14:48.759 --> 00:14:54.159 in April for the actual New eighteen America team, and then I got invited 207 00:14:54.200 --> 00:15:00.879 back, which I was extremely blessed about. And then this next tryout it 208 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:03.159 was found out I was on the team, which I'm extremely blessed about as 209 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:07.759 well. So all this time I thought coach Levana was a very good coach, 210 00:15:07.799 --> 00:15:11.480 but he has players like you, So you know there's that. I 211 00:15:11.600 --> 00:15:15.720 joked because he's a friend of mine, but but there's a reason why you 212 00:15:15.720 --> 00:15:18.320 guys are pretty good. You have you on the sell on the team, 213 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:22.480 and he has a pretty good team. Yes, I think coach Justin Levano 214 00:15:22.559 --> 00:15:28.840 has been a great, great mentor great coach. He's kind of all feared 215 00:15:28.919 --> 00:15:31.279 us, all in the right direction. We've had a strong, like freshman 216 00:15:31.399 --> 00:15:35.919 five and then I obviously additions to it as well. And you know, 217 00:15:35.000 --> 00:15:39.600 credit to him because he puts a lot of days hours, he's possible a 218 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:43.519 lot of gray hairs. So right, right, So it's not surprising that 219 00:15:43.559 --> 00:15:48.240 you're good because your mom played right? Right? Yeah, How has your 220 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:50.960 mom's experience helped you? What does she bring? Is she you know? 221 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:54.919 Is she hard on you? Is she you know, very instructive? What's 222 00:15:54.960 --> 00:16:00.200 the relationship with your mom when it comes to basketball? Oh, she's amazing. 223 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:04.919 She obviously she hasn't IQ of the game, like no, no one's 224 00:16:04.960 --> 00:16:08.600 business. So I get a lot of my IQ from her, will watch 225 00:16:08.679 --> 00:16:12.159 films, spends the time. She showed me a few post moves and I'll 226 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:18.639 use times of time. But yeah, she's she's been strict on me. 227 00:16:18.679 --> 00:16:22.440 She's been a coach in middle school. She's been a big help as I 228 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:26.159 go to high school. Even a big help when I was in Columbia, 229 00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:29.919 like she was, she was there trying to get me pointers. Obviously trying 230 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:36.840 to keep positive but constructive. Considered constructive criticism as well. Sorry, do 231 00:16:36.919 --> 00:16:41.399 you have older brothers older sisters? No, I am the oldest of four. 232 00:16:44.159 --> 00:16:47.960 Yeah. The reason I ask is because typically when you have an older 233 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:51.639 sibling or whatever, that's how you get better because they knuck you on your 234 00:16:51.639 --> 00:16:52.919 butt. You got to get better. You want to be you want to 235 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:56.120 prove them wrong. But you're the oldest, so you're a type A. 236 00:16:56.279 --> 00:17:02.120 Probably yes, I am the blueprint for the sibling. So you're the one 237 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:07.640 that's you're the one knocking them down and all that stuff. So the experience 238 00:17:07.680 --> 00:17:10.359 of playing in this in this tournament, you know, you travel, You're 239 00:17:10.359 --> 00:17:12.920 down down to Columbia, right, that's where the tournament was. What you 240 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:18.720 know as a as a young person, you know doing that kind of travel. 241 00:17:18.640 --> 00:17:22.039 What was the experience like? Was it comfortable? Was it fun? 242 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:27.200 Was it you know, any kind of nervousness about you know, traveling internationally. 243 00:17:27.839 --> 00:17:32.119 Uh, you're from Canada, so it's like you know a little bit 244 00:17:32.119 --> 00:17:34.599 of an international person already. But what was that like and how did you 245 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:41.519 deal with all of that? I would say the travel was pretty regular. 246 00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:45.799 I'm usually on a plane, whether it's to go to club, whether it's 247 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:49.799 going to tournament, whether it's going to visit. Like, I'm on a 248 00:17:51.119 --> 00:17:56.640 plane, so it's not that part wasn't really stressful or scary. I wasn't 249 00:17:56.640 --> 00:18:02.319 little nervous to go away from home for that long of a time. Usually 250 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:04.519 for like club season, it's like two weeks, maybe three weeks. But 251 00:18:04.599 --> 00:18:08.839 this was in a different, different country. I had to get like an 252 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:12.720 international plan to contact my family, my friends. So that part was a 253 00:18:12.759 --> 00:18:18.720 little scary. But other than that, my teammates and the college or not 254 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:22.559 the college coaches, the coaches that were with me and Team Canada, they 255 00:18:22.599 --> 00:18:26.279 did a really good job of kind of making sure that I felt welcome. 256 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:29.400 We all we all made sure that we felt welcome. We were missing home, 257 00:18:29.720 --> 00:18:34.079 we'd go comfort each other. Yeah, it was really really nice. 258 00:18:34.839 --> 00:18:38.799 So what's what's the future look like. I'm sure people or schools have already 259 00:18:38.799 --> 00:18:45.960 contacted you. I am now resuming my recruiting process. I would like to 260 00:18:47.079 --> 00:18:52.839 start limiting down forward baseball. I'm gonna go. I might go on a 261 00:18:52.839 --> 00:18:57.160 few more visits. Like I said, just just pushed play on that recruiting 262 00:18:57.160 --> 00:19:02.519 process again after Team Canada. So it's we're trying to get the wheels turning 263 00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:06.559 again. Is it fun? Is it fun? Is it nerve wracking? 264 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:11.680 Is it frustrating? Ever? What's this process like? Because you've got people 265 00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:15.519 chasing it all over the place. Maybe some people, Yeah, maybe some 266 00:19:15.519 --> 00:19:18.759 people you don't want to hear from. I don't know, what's what? 267 00:19:18.799 --> 00:19:23.079 How do you take all that in. It's a little bit of all the 268 00:19:23.119 --> 00:19:26.039 emotions. It can be stressful if you don't know how to manage your time. 269 00:19:26.119 --> 00:19:32.119 But I've built such great relationships with every coach that I've encountered. They've 270 00:19:32.160 --> 00:19:36.440 all been so genuine and nice. And some of the people that I've had 271 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:40.680 to unfortunately say goodbye to, like it hurts my heart because I've made such 272 00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:45.000 a great relationship with them and I know that there's different circumstances, circumstances I 273 00:19:45.000 --> 00:19:48.000 would go to their school. But like I said, yeah, super super 274 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:53.640 excited to continue this process. It is an exciting process and I've been told 275 00:19:53.680 --> 00:20:00.799 many many times to enjoy it, so I'm trying. We're talking to Talia 276 00:20:00.839 --> 00:20:07.480 Henderson from the South Point Catholic and Team Canada again. You know, great 277 00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:11.680 experience this summer. So okay, I'm looking at your where you guys have 278 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:15.279 been a couple of state champions championships in your time there, you're defending state 279 00:20:15.359 --> 00:20:21.359 champions How do you where do you fit high school in to all these things 280 00:20:21.400 --> 00:20:25.920 that you've been doing, whether it's club or this international team. How do 281 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:30.680 you fit all that into everything else that's going on around you and and how 282 00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:34.599 do you know get into the next to the upcoming season. It's been a 283 00:20:34.599 --> 00:20:40.119 lot of time management. I've also had a great community that's done nothing but 284 00:20:40.240 --> 00:20:45.680 support me, so that makes it a lot easier. I'm sure I'm super 285 00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:49.160 excited about the next season. Been training. I haven't seen my high school 286 00:20:49.160 --> 00:20:52.519 coaching teammates in a minute, but I know as soon as we go, 287 00:20:52.960 --> 00:20:56.319 it's gonna be right back to normal. We're gonna get our team bonding, 288 00:20:56.359 --> 00:21:00.839 our new team. A lot of us are set years this year, so 289 00:21:00.079 --> 00:21:03.759 we have that advantage that not everybody else has. We have I think nine 290 00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:08.359 or ten people returning. We only lost three seniors, and I mean that's 291 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:11.720 that's a great advantage. So we have that chemistry. It's kind of just 292 00:21:11.759 --> 00:21:17.839 getting back on that same track and having that mentality that's their senior year and 293 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:22.960 we want to win. So how is how is your approach to to that 294 00:21:22.079 --> 00:21:26.160 in terms of, you know, your defending state champs, you know you 295 00:21:26.160 --> 00:21:29.359 want to win another state championship. Obviously with all the all the players you 296 00:21:29.440 --> 00:21:33.400 got coming back versus sort of the feeling or I don't know if you'd want 297 00:21:33.440 --> 00:21:37.440 to call it pressure or the anticipation of Team Canada. How are those two 298 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:45.839 things different or are they with with high school? I think you truly build 299 00:21:45.880 --> 00:21:53.519 a bond over the eight nine months that you're with these this team. I 300 00:21:53.559 --> 00:21:57.599 wish I had that much time with my team in Canada. But Canada is 301 00:21:57.640 --> 00:22:06.000 more of a more of a business. It's very strict. There is incredible 302 00:22:06.039 --> 00:22:08.839 competition, but it's also a different type of playing style than I mean to 303 00:22:08.839 --> 00:22:14.319 do in the States or even in Arizona. They're a little bit a little 304 00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:18.680 bit more aggressive. The rest didn't really speaking like so it is hard to 305 00:22:18.720 --> 00:22:22.240 be like, how is that a power? Got to ask some questions, 306 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:26.000 but no, it was it was more of a business. It was more 307 00:22:26.039 --> 00:22:30.400 of a learning experience. There's more college like than what high school. High 308 00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:33.119 school is getting to that point and as you go towards the season, you 309 00:22:33.200 --> 00:22:37.160 get great games and you get that little bit that's more pressure that I kind 310 00:22:37.160 --> 00:22:42.160 of felt even Game one of Team Team Canada. But yeah, I think 311 00:22:42.200 --> 00:22:47.039 it's I think it's really more relationships and how you can get better in small 312 00:22:47.079 --> 00:22:51.440 settings. Rather, this is just like Canada is just like sticking out what 313 00:22:51.440 --> 00:22:53.960 you're good at, what can you control? Things like that. So you 314 00:22:53.960 --> 00:22:57.720 talked about earlier about whudling down some schools. Where are you at now with 315 00:22:57.839 --> 00:23:06.119 schools and can you a couple? Yeah? Uh, North Carolina, Tennessee, 316 00:23:06.319 --> 00:23:11.160 Maryland. I've I've been new, newly recruited, but like Utah, 317 00:23:11.480 --> 00:23:19.240 Oregon, ECU, the some of those great schools Illinois, like they have 318 00:23:19.359 --> 00:23:23.759 been recruiting me for a long time. So I'm in the process of creating 319 00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:32.160 great relationships with these new new new colleges, but also maintaining my relationships with 320 00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:37.000 these older, very good schools. Obviously nothing local. You're not too far 321 00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:45.319 from UVN. Oh my goodness, I'm so I swear that you. Steve 322 00:23:45.839 --> 00:23:51.400 Stephen said you're looking at each other like going to Arizona. Well, it's 323 00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:57.359 like, yes, I was given Maybe it's the Academy award and forgetting to 324 00:23:57.400 --> 00:24:03.920 thank your parents. Oh my goodness, you sound like a girl beyond her 325 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:11.240 years. What do you hope to study? I think it's I think I'm 326 00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:15.119 really leaning towards sports journals. When you're broadcasting, I love talking about the 327 00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:18.920 game. I like to write as well, so that kind of goes in 328 00:24:19.000 --> 00:24:23.279 the hand. So you want to be broke the rest of your life? 329 00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:29.000 Okay, I see see that's okay, that's Steve. I was going to 330 00:24:29.079 --> 00:24:32.440 go with, you know, if you go to Arizona, you can come 331 00:24:32.440 --> 00:24:36.839 and be an intern on our show, get some experience, get some airtime, 332 00:24:37.000 --> 00:24:41.759 get some clips. I'm going in that direction. And Steve's telling you 333 00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:45.359 what he's not telling you. You will work for free, for free, 334 00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:51.079 right of course. But well we're fine, and we're old, and in 335 00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:52.319 fact, in a couple of years you may not even be here anymore. 336 00:24:52.359 --> 00:24:56.359 So we'll just go with that. But well, congratulations to Lee. This 337 00:24:56.440 --> 00:25:02.319 is you know, it's great to see you, know again another local athlete 338 00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:06.839 doing so well. You sound great, You sound like you're having fun, 339 00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:11.400 which I think you are right, Yes, definitely for sure. Did you 340 00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:17.160 did your dad play hoops or no? He played in high school then he 341 00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:21.480 went for D one college. You went D one in football and track? 342 00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:27.640 Can you are you better than him yet? And basketball? Yes? My 343 00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:32.799 mom, I have a team post moves on me that you know, bulleyball 344 00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:37.599 and things like that, but don't tell her said that. No, But 345 00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:40.079 that's how you get better. But you but you can take and if you 346 00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:42.359 can take your dad, that's pretty good. Yeah. Great, well, 347 00:25:42.400 --> 00:25:47.160 congrats, congrats Will. We'll keep an eye on your progress and your success 348 00:25:47.720 --> 00:25:52.160 and maybe have you on as the season goes goes on. Sounds good. 349 00:25:52.160 --> 00:25:53.960 Thank you so much for having me, sure of course, thank you again. 350 00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:59.359 Good luck with that sports degree, Thank you, thank you. All 351 00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:03.359 right. You know, Telia, you know she brings that up and you 352 00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:06.799 bring her down. I'm trying to come up with something encouraging about the whole 353 00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:10.200 thing. You know, Jay, if you haven't noticed, I'm the realist 354 00:26:10.240 --> 00:26:15.359 in the room. You kind of like over the top guy. Realist sounds 355 00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:21.400 like you're the bummer dude, man, real reality is usually the bummer news. 356 00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:26.559 All Right, she was fine, Tealia Henderson giving on her there. 357 00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:30.000 You know, she's coming back to South Point and trying to defend a state 358 00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:33.960 championship. He did a podcast with her guests last week and he said she's 359 00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:37.960 very bright, and she speaks very well, and she's executed, didn't seem 360 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:41.279 nervous or anything. Okay, we're gonna take our break, We're gonna come 361 00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:42.559 back. We'd love to take your cass five, two, zero, four, 362 00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:45.400 one, six, seventy four, forty. What do you think of 363 00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:49.640 Arizona finishing fifth in the media poll for Big twelve football this year? Stick 364 00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:52.920 around. 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This is 405 00:29:53.039 --> 00:30:00.000 high on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on Fox Sports fourteen fifty 406 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.519 describe now to the podcast on the iHeartRadio WIP just Surgery. I on the 407 00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.480 Ball. Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports 408 00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:10.839 fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve, you're Jay, and we have Ryan with us. 409 00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:14.720 Fifteen minutes. We'd like to give us a quick call. We'll take 410 00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:18.680 it five two oh four one six seventy four forty. So I want to 411 00:30:18.680 --> 00:30:22.839 go back to the conversation we're having about coaches, right, So we'll go 412 00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:27.839 post Dick Toby because there's been a few in twenty four years. Okay, 413 00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:34.000 So Dick Tomy leaves, you get the anti or the opposite of dictmy and 414 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:38.599 you get macaviick. Before he was hired. Before he was hired, what 415 00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:45.240 was the confidence in his success at that time? You didn't know much. 416 00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:49.240 I didn't know what to think. Okay. First of all, you know, 417 00:30:49.799 --> 00:30:52.599 I know his name didn't even come up. All of a sudden, 418 00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:56.519 he was working for ESPN. Yeah, all of a sudden he said, 419 00:30:56.559 --> 00:30:57.759 you know, he said, we've got a coach and it's John mcavick. 420 00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:04.279 And I'm like, what, you know, when did that happen? I 421 00:31:04.279 --> 00:31:10.960 I was like Okay, let's see what happens. I think in retrospect that 422 00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:15.160 was probably Jim Lyvin Goood's worst tire, right right. I was like, 423 00:31:15.240 --> 00:31:19.440 okay, let's see what happens. And then I met him and I said, 424 00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:22.079 we're in trouble. What do you mean is in your capacity? What 425 00:31:22.720 --> 00:31:26.680 we know? We we put together a golf tournament. There was a fundraising 426 00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:30.759 golf tournament that was called the Chuck Cecil Tournament for you know, they got 427 00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:33.440 they put Chuck's name on it. Chuck wasn't even here. They put his 428 00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:37.079 name on it, and uh and Macavic was sort of the you know, 429 00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:41.119 it was four foot raising money for football, and so we had you know, 430 00:31:41.200 --> 00:31:44.920 he was kind of a part of it and stuff like that. And 431 00:31:45.200 --> 00:31:48.000 I met him and I'm like, I can't I can't stand this work. 432 00:31:48.079 --> 00:31:51.960 So arrogance was yeah, he was. He was. He was arrogant. 433 00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:56.480 He was. He just didn't seem to give a crap, you know, 434 00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:02.839 And I and and then you just thought he's he's gonna sound goofy. He 435 00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:07.559 wasn't cool, right, he was trying to be cool for these for this 436 00:32:07.680 --> 00:32:13.000 football team. He was an old guy. It would have been like you 437 00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:16.920 know like me, you know, coaching the team in terms of he just 438 00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:22.160 didn't have any personality personality with the players that he wasn't the type of he 439 00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:27.160 was a guy, he wasn't the type of personality that would make me as 440 00:32:27.200 --> 00:32:30.880 a football player wanting to run through a wall here two and a half and 441 00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:35.799 half because you okay, so so that was before the first season, your 442 00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:38.160 thoughts, No, this was during the first you know, around that time. 443 00:32:38.519 --> 00:32:42.839 You know, uh, you know, the whole thing about I'm gonna 444 00:32:42.839 --> 00:32:46.799 wear a suit on the sidelines, just an upity you know kind of. 445 00:32:47.000 --> 00:32:50.480 He changed, He changed MacHale, he changed the officers, costs a lot 446 00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:53.440 of money, I think, yeah, all that stuff. So but meeting 447 00:32:53.519 --> 00:32:57.160 him, you know, early on, I'm like, this is going to 448 00:32:57.240 --> 00:32:59.519 be bad and it's going to take a long time to get out of this. 449 00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:01.599 And it did. But it's exactly what happened. So well, he 450 00:33:01.720 --> 00:33:05.960 was the opposite of dictomy, because that's what usually happens. They go the 451 00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:07.759 opposite of what they already have. So then he leaves and then you get 452 00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:13.240 Stoops, I think Mike Stoops. So before before he was hired or during 453 00:33:13.279 --> 00:33:16.400 that process, he's named and you're thinking, great, he's the guy, 454 00:33:16.480 --> 00:33:22.400 he's the dame. He was. He was the hot non head coach guy, 455 00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:28.000 and I thought he was perfect for Arizona. Here's the guy, uh, 456 00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:30.720 you know from a from a major program, knows the ropes of that 457 00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:37.599 program. You know, this is a logical next step for him, you 458 00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:40.799 know, being a defensive coordinator all those years that at Oklahoma. This was 459 00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:45.559 a very logical next step. I like that he was you know, he 460 00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:47.279 was gonna bring a level of I felt he was gonna bring a level of 461 00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:52.559 toughness to the program that it had lost, not even not even just during 462 00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:55.440 the mac of VIC years, but like in Dick's last couple of years. 463 00:33:55.920 --> 00:34:00.839 Right. So I was excited about Mike Stuops. I went to the press 464 00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:04.519 conference you know, uh, you know when he got hired because I thought 465 00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:07.519 this is really cool. Yeah. No, I remember that too. I 466 00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:12.719 was there doing the stories for the papers. And Okay, so that honeymoon 467 00:34:12.800 --> 00:34:15.639 lasted what it went a while, because you know what, even though he 468 00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:19.800 went three and eight the first two seasons, you liked what you were seeing. 469 00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:22.480 Yeah, tell him he was right, and and the thing I liked 470 00:34:22.480 --> 00:34:25.480 the most was how tough his teams were. I mean, they went out 471 00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:29.960 there and they traded punches with everybody. Remember that first year, they should 472 00:34:29.960 --> 00:34:31.760 have beat Wisconsin here. You know, they missed a field goal at the 473 00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:35.239 end of the game. They would have won that game, and Wisconsin was 474 00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:37.599 really good at the time. You're a funny You're a funny man. I've 475 00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:42.519 been with you for five years. You come up with Wisconsin, the game 476 00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:45.599 and the mission, the field goal, but you forget to post a podcast. 477 00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:51.440 How the hell does that happen? That was? That was an extraordinary 478 00:34:51.480 --> 00:34:54.519 game because we had a tailgate part at the tail It was a day game. 479 00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:58.920 Remember it was like a noon game or one o'clock game in September. 480 00:34:59.639 --> 00:35:04.079 It was as hell and then it stormed at the game and we were so 481 00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:07.000 they stopped the game, I remember, and we were soaking wet and by 482 00:35:07.000 --> 00:35:09.800 the end of the game, we were freezing because we were soaking wet, 483 00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:14.320 and then they got breezy. But that's part of why I remember that game. 484 00:35:14.320 --> 00:35:17.960 But what I saw that game was the toughness of that of the team, 485 00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:22.559 and you felt that's who Mike Stoops is and that's what we've got. 486 00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:25.159 And I think we were all excited about that and and you know when the 487 00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:30.760 team got, you know, progressively better. Yeah, the honeymoon probably ended 488 00:35:30.800 --> 00:35:35.159 when Greg Byrne showed up, because it was Greg that eventually let him go. 489 00:35:35.639 --> 00:35:39.119 And how long did that last? To me? To me, it 490 00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:43.320 went south on him when they got the living crap eat out of him in 491 00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:45.800 the Alamo Bowl against Oklahoma State, and you felt like that team had just 492 00:35:45.880 --> 00:35:51.039 kind of quit. And it was like, what, you know, because 493 00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:52.840 they were so close. I mean, they were close to the Rose Bowl 494 00:35:52.840 --> 00:35:57.360 the year before, right the year they went well, you can even argue 495 00:35:57.360 --> 00:36:00.400 that it's really started to fall apart when they played Nebraska in the Holiday. 496 00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:05.480 Yeah, and that was just that was bad. They just got bludgeoned right 497 00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:09.239 at that time. And you just felt like what happened that they looked like 498 00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:13.760 they didn't even be long on the field with with Nebraska that year. And 499 00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:20.679 so but there did come a time when you felt like he was kind of 500 00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:24.119 mailing it in. It was fifteen years ago, does yeah, that he 501 00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:27.480 was kind of mailing it in. And I'll tell you a little story. 502 00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:30.480 So he got he gets fired in mid season, right his last year, 503 00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:37.000 he got fired mid season, and my brother and his buddy saw him at 504 00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:39.559 a high school football game like that week, the week after he got fired, 505 00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:43.599 and they, you know, they went up to talk to him to 506 00:36:43.679 --> 00:36:45.920 say to thank him and say he did a good job and stuff, and 507 00:36:45.960 --> 00:36:47.119 they thought he was gonna be kind of grouchy and stuff like that. They 508 00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:51.719 said he was so loose, Yeah, and it was like the world that 509 00:36:51.920 --> 00:36:55.239 had been lifted off of his shoulders. And you know, the our our 510 00:36:55.320 --> 00:37:00.480 opinion was that he didn't really like being a head coach and he and he 511 00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:02.719 was more of a good assistant coach, right, and there's people like that, 512 00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:06.000 right, that he didn't like all the things that came with being a 513 00:37:06.000 --> 00:37:08.679 head coach, you know, the booster stuff, all that stuff. That 514 00:37:08.800 --> 00:37:13.280 was the opinion that we had of him. And I know at the time 515 00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:15.599 that you know, a lot of people that I know were involved with you 516 00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:19.239 know, they they involved with him kind of because they were doing stuff like 517 00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:22.559 you know, the Football Foundation guys were getting to know those guys in the 518 00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:24.840 Hall of Fame and stuff like that. So there was some contact with him, 519 00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:29.039 and there was just a feeling that he was kind of tired of being 520 00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:31.239 a head coach and he could he was not as engaging as you would think. 521 00:37:31.400 --> 00:37:34.519 He was in the community. He was uncomfortable. He was yeah, 522 00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:36.800 he was, no question. He did a little, but not a lot. 523 00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:39.559 Yeah. Okay, So we went from Mike Stoops to a guy that 524 00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:44.599 was kind of still a surprise, Rich Ruck right again, another guy that 525 00:37:44.639 --> 00:37:46.880 we needed. We had no idea who they were hiring until they hired him. 526 00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:50.840 Right at the time, we're thinking, this is weird. He was 527 00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:52.440 out of football for a year, had worked in the media year, and 528 00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:55.960 now the reputation was a good one. Yeah, I thought this was I 529 00:37:55.960 --> 00:38:00.280 thought it was a really cool hire. Okay, because here's a guy who 530 00:38:00.360 --> 00:38:05.199 had coached at Michigan and even before he was the Arizona guy. I thought 531 00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:07.400 he had gotten a raw deal at Michigan because you know that he wasn't a 532 00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:12.000 Michigan man and all that kind of stuff, and the fact that he turned 533 00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:14.239 down the Alabama job. I'm like, Okay, we've got a guy who 534 00:38:14.320 --> 00:38:17.440 turned down Alabama and who was the coach at Michigan and now he's the coach 535 00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:22.960 at Arizona. And we all thought, here's a guy who's gonna come and 536 00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:28.639 he's gonna he's gonna try and revive his You know his career, and I 537 00:38:28.679 --> 00:38:30.159 said, if he comes here and he's here for three or four years and 538 00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:35.280 gets Arizona off the mat, we'll be happy with that. I didn't like 539 00:38:35.320 --> 00:38:37.119 the way it ended, but we felt good about him. Again. Another 540 00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:40.400 coach that we went to his press conference because we wanted to. We were 541 00:38:40.480 --> 00:38:43.800 excited about it and wanted to see what he had to say. And I 542 00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:46.079 just remember him at the press conference saying, you know, why not Arizona, 543 00:38:46.719 --> 00:38:50.079 you know, And I thought that was really cool because I thought, 544 00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:52.639 again, for however long he's here, this is cool. One of the 545 00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:57.840 things with him is his recruiting didn't go as well as he probably think. 546 00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:00.000 You know, he went with the okags he had had and coached him up, 547 00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:04.480 but he needed to get better talent. It went south, you know 548 00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:07.079 after a few years. I mean that year that they had, you know, 549 00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:12.119 the twenty sixteen year when they went what three and nine? They won 550 00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:15.760 The only conference game they won was ASU in the last game of the season, 551 00:39:15.320 --> 00:39:21.119 and then you thought, you know, but then he stumbles on Coalil 552 00:39:21.199 --> 00:39:23.519 Tate and all of a sudden, all the excitement is back. And then 553 00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:27.559 it went all to pieces after that. Because of this, the off field 554 00:39:27.599 --> 00:39:32.039 stuff. You know, in the end, you feel like you wonder what 555 00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:37.559 would have happened had he stayed, would he have regenerated and gone done the 556 00:39:37.599 --> 00:39:40.119 recruiting thing again, because they you know, look, well heard that he 557 00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:43.440 had the South Carolina job, and then he didn't get it, and that's 558 00:39:43.480 --> 00:39:46.320 when he seemed to kind of like stop well trying. Even before that, 559 00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:52.360 you kind of knew that he was looking looking to go to do really the 560 00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:55.679 jet fish thing, do well and get get a better job, jet back, 561 00:39:55.679 --> 00:39:58.920 and you know, and I, you know, I kind of felt 562 00:39:58.920 --> 00:40:00.639 all along that he wanted to back. He wanted to get back to the 563 00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:05.320 East Coast, preferably in the SEC, which is why the South Carolina job 564 00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:07.519 was. It was attractive to him right right. And then whatever either he 565 00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.519 didn't get they didn't hire him, whatever. Okay, so then he's he's 566 00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:13.760 gone, and you're thinking, okay, here we go again. He was 567 00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:19.000 the fourth quarterback since a fourth coach since Dick Tomy. Now you get something. 568 00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:21.280 You're thinking, Okay, we got a name guy, a guy who 569 00:40:21.320 --> 00:40:24.079 has a reputation. Hot guy again, another hot guy, and okay, 570 00:40:24.079 --> 00:40:29.519 here we go. And that turned south right away. That that ended for 571 00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:31.559 me at his at his press conference, he was not Yeah he didn't win 572 00:40:31.639 --> 00:40:35.519 the presence. I'm like, oh no, yeah he did. I was 573 00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:37.800 there in that big room, in the big room. He did not win 574 00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:40.000 the press conference. It was again the sense of he didn't want to be 575 00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:44.000 here, right, he was going to cast the checks, yeah, but 576 00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:47.559 then he didn't want to be here. I sensed that, and I sense 577 00:40:47.639 --> 00:40:52.039 that in the press conference. When I watching the press I'm like, oh 578 00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:59.239 no, we're in trouble. And then I remember watching him at the at 579 00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:02.239 first at the spring game and then at the fallse scrimmage, you know, 580 00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:07.079 and he's on the sidelines. He's just walking up and down the field, 581 00:41:07.880 --> 00:41:10.719 completely indifferent to what was going on on the field, like guys were in 582 00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:15.400 big trouble. And then we were okay. So then he's gone, and 583 00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:19.079 you're thinking, Okay, how's this happening. He's the fifth guy since stick 584 00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:22.840 tell me, and then the the higher jed and we're thinking at the time, 585 00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:25.440 because I'm sure you and I are thinking the same, who the hell 586 00:41:25.480 --> 00:41:30.000 is this guy? You remember the press conferences? Who was like who is 587 00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:35.480 this that? You know? I kind of felt like Arizona is bad, 588 00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:40.079 but They're not that bad that they got to go get him, right. 589 00:41:40.559 --> 00:41:44.519 I said, Look, the program's in the crapper, we all know that, 590 00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:49.440 but it's still a good place to be and it's still got potential. 591 00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:55.239 We didn't need we Arizona did not need to take itself down to a level 592 00:41:55.280 --> 00:42:00.800 where it had to hire somebody like Jetfish. And you know, I remember 593 00:42:00.000 --> 00:42:05.079 his press conference was during you have a basketball game. I'm working at you 594 00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:08.239 have a basketball game, and you know, we've got the thing on an 595 00:42:08.239 --> 00:42:14.679 iPad, his press conference, and and I'm like, you know, maybe 596 00:42:14.719 --> 00:42:16.760 it was before the game, because it surely wouldn't gone on during the game. 597 00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:21.400 But I remember, you know, seeing pieces of it and thinking, 598 00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:22.480 all right, what you know, what do we have, Let's see what 599 00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:27.320 happened? Well, it was COVID too. It was COVID, the COVID 600 00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:30.400 zoom zoom calls with him, and you're thinking that he's saying all the right 601 00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:34.119 answers. He was winning the press conference. In my mind, A lot 602 00:42:34.119 --> 00:42:37.079 of people didn't think. But but Jet has the way of he's a salesman. 603 00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:39.400 He was. He was a typical salesman. He knew what he was 604 00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:45.239 saying. I've heard a lot of things since he's come and gone that he 605 00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:49.159 was exactly that. But I felt like everything he said in his press conference 606 00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:52.159 and stuff was calculated very much. So the dude's a smart dude, he's 607 00:42:52.159 --> 00:43:00.519 a smart guy. Was all calculated. And you know that first, I 608 00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:06.840 didn't put the blame on him for what happened the first year because I realized 609 00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:08.960 this is bad. I remember, you know, going to the BYU. 610 00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:14.039 Remember they opened BYU in Vegas, and we were all thinking the worst and 611 00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:17.400 they played well, and they played well. Yeh right, but you're watching 612 00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:21.920 the quarterba and it was h what was the dude's name? The quarterback belong 613 00:43:21.960 --> 00:43:24.039 here? Dude? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, you know, 614 00:43:24.079 --> 00:43:30.719 and I thought he just doesn't look like a decent quarterback. He looked 615 00:43:30.760 --> 00:43:36.760 good, I mean body wise, but watching him play, he was right. 616 00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:39.880 And then you know then when you know, they play San Diego State 617 00:43:39.920 --> 00:43:44.239 the next week and we're still outside the stadium trying to get in when they're 618 00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:47.159 down three touchdowns and I'm like, oh, this is gonna be really bad. 619 00:43:47.159 --> 00:43:50.639 And then they lost an AU and it's like, Okay, it's worse 620 00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:53.880 than we thought. Yeah, because that doesn't happen under any condition. Yeah, 621 00:43:53.920 --> 00:43:58.719 so you're thinking, Okay, maybe he's not the guy early, so 622 00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:01.679 just just the program. It's good. That was six coaches in twenty four 623 00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:07.960 years and now we're here kind of like and I still I've said this for 624 00:44:07.000 --> 00:44:09.039 a long time, and talk to Greg, go out this. There was 625 00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:13.679 on a football's furst. I don't know where it started. What goat you 626 00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:17.920 had to kill, but there's not in your head. It happened. It 627 00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:22.079 happened all I mean, you go all the way back to the Whack that 628 00:44:22.519 --> 00:44:27.480 Arizona was cursed, you know, things that happened back there, not even 629 00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:30.440 winning a Whack championship all the way back then, and how close Arizona was 630 00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:36.599 at the time. They had some great teams under Jim Young, and you 631 00:44:36.760 --> 00:44:40.119 just never won that one game you needed to win to win a championship, 632 00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:45.320 go to a Rose Bowl, you know, or whatever. And it's been 633 00:44:45.360 --> 00:44:47.360 like that my entire life, Steve, And now you brought me down. 634 00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:52.840 Well that was twenty four years ago. You're sixty four, forty or forty 635 00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:57.039 at the time when Dick was let go. Yeah yeah, well, well 636 00:44:57.119 --> 00:44:59.719 let's hope to get you another good four year, a better four years. 637 00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:02.599 Well, you have a guy who wants us to be here. Yeah, 638 00:45:02.760 --> 00:45:06.039 and that's that's I don't think he's a good coach. That's a big piece 639 00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:07.920 of it. We'll see how good of a coach he is. Right, 640 00:45:07.000 --> 00:45:09.880 it's not a stepping stone, right that we know of, right, as 641 00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:14.239 as as best as we can tell, right, Okay, Hey, good 642 00:45:14.239 --> 00:45:15.719 show, very good show, a feel good show. Right. Having the 643 00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:20.920 guests that we had today, we think thank that all of them them. 644 00:45:21.000 --> 00:45:22.519 So all right, hey, thanks for being here. We'll be back tomorrow. 645 00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:25.599 Tomorrow is our last day of the week, so be sure to join 646 00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:29.400 us and then take the week off. So see you tomorrow.