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What n What's up everybody? What's up? Everybody? Welcome to our Thursday
special guest episode with my pal Gina Kimmel, who I've talked about many times.
Him, Gena, you talk about me from time to time. We've
been doing this podcast for like, I don't know, twelve years years.
I think, Yeah, you've come up once or twice and I cannot talk
about you without doing your voice. But I won't do it right now.
Oh yeah, you could do my voice. Go ahead, Okay, I
get to do yours. Yeah, you can do money. Gina calls me
La La because her kids started that. Yeah, a lot of our friends
they couldn't say it right right, and that her little her little kids at
the time were like in diapers. And we've known each other for my whole
ap your life, Yeah appear Yeah, you were twenty five yep, twenty
five years old, and uh Gina was married to that late night host guy
that's what not Jimmy fallon the other the fat the other. Yeah, I
did have somebody who for I was friends with him for like six years,
and I thought all along that I had been married to Jimmy Fallon. Oh
really yeah, And he was like, I can't even believe you would divorce
him, the late night guy. And I was like, really, you're
not. And then yeah, he's like Jimmy Fallon so talented. A yeah,
well that wasn't him. Although it's odd because definitely Jimmy Fallon is not
the talented one between them. He's not. In my mind, Oh really,
I don't know. Well, Jimmy Fallon does all the impressions and stuff.
That's true, that's yeah. Yeah, and he sings and he sings.
Who's your favorite one? Yeah, he's a good singer. Jimmy Fallon's
your favorite out of the two mine? Yeah, kiddy, I don't have
I don't take favorites. I have no favorites, okay. I like all
the late night talk show hosts equally, okay, even though I don't stay
up late enough to watch any of them. Yeah. So now, Gina
is, uh, basically you're pretty much married, right, You've had a
boyfriend? No, yeah, a boyfriend? What do you call me?
I don't like to consider myself ferris, because then there I always sound weird,
like when you're in your fifties and you're like, this is my boyfriend.
I've just called my partner. But the funny thing is his name is
Chris. So lots of times people think maybe okay, and then they meet
him and I just lots of times to get a collective like it's a man
and you guys are living in an RV and traveling the country. We live
in RV. Yeah, that's our COVID freakout. I don't know what you
guys did for your COVID freakout, but we sold everything we owned and bought
an RV. Really, and so you guys were living in Chicago, right,
Yeah, we were living in Chicago. Well, we had bought a
house and we were thinking about moving into the city and then COVID hit and
you know, you're stuck inside for like a year, and you're like,
okay, we haven't killed each other yet, right, this is maybe something
we can do. And it's something I always wanted to do across all the
spectrum of men in my life and not to do it. But he was
like, all right, well let's do it. So we just thought like
okay, in between houses, right, like we're going to sell this house,
we should do it now. And so now we're going on three years,
wow, three years living in an rvy, traveling the country. So
do you get any space from each other? Like does he ever? I
mean, because I imagine if you're just in another city, you don't really
have like appointments, you know, like oh I have to go ride an
appointments. But does he Well, he's still he is working, he's still
working full time. So he's got like he's right there right next to me.
He's got a little set up and stuff. We do spend a lot
of time wearing EarPods. I will, I will admit to that we don't
hear each other. And then no, not really. I mean, like
you know, we also would like chase seventy degree weather, so it's usually
really nice out all the time and you could set up, you know,
go outside. And then in traveling, there's a lot of different things that
we like, Like I'm really into museums and history and historical houses, and
I think he has seen his fill of historical houses. So I go do
that and he goes to micro breweries. Nice. So we do our stuff
separate, and then I know people like all over the country, so we
visit people right right, you stay by people. Yeah, we stay by
people. So that's nice. It's not like it's just the two of us.
Yeah yeah, and you know, wow, you should come. I
know I want to come visit. I want to come visit. So before
we started recording, I was telling Stephanie about the night we met when we
were how we met a talent story you had just well, I think you
know more. I guess I was forgidding. So I forgot that it was
New Year's Eve. Oh yeah, and I had so I had two little
kids. Kevin was like a baby and vipers like I think he was like
a year old though, right, a year and a half, like two
years. Yeah, yeah, so of course I was still losing the baby.
But from the first kid, it was three, and so we were
having the Year's Eve, and of course we couldn't afford a babysitter, so
we invited them over for dinner and uh, well, Adam, oh you
don't want me to go now, you could call him Adam. It's fine,
that's fine. Yeah. So he had, like you know, had
told us that he just met this girl and he was, oh she was
something we had for dinner on New Year's Eve. And I were answering the
door, and oh my god, there she was her like my white pat
and leather go go boots. I think the first thing I said to you
was like, you gotta be fucking kidding, but you did. You were
those ticks and the go go boots and everything. I got spit up on
my shoulder. I mean, this is not what ill. When she opened
the door, she rolled her eyes and said, oh my god, come
on in. And I was intimidating. I was like, this is his
best friend's wife, Like, oh my god, and she's making this big
dinner. She's got like a menu, a printed out menu of the courses
of what we were going to eat. It was just the four of us.
I've always been organized with my food. Yes, and they do,
dude, like you did used to have like these in her parties and stuff
all the time. You like, yeah, yeah, I don't really have
that much anymore, right, but back then, yeah right yeah. And
so I was determined to, you know, not like her, right,
but she just grows on you with that. Boys and then Adam like Gina,
and Adam would say like, let me tell you, Jimmy's wife,
Gina is not the nicest. She's she makes no bones about it. Like
he'd say, I would call the house and I'd go, hey, Gina,
can I talk to Jimmy, And he'd got and ginauld got hold on
and she just put the phone down and walk away. Okay, But in
my defense, he called like seventy five times a day. I mean it
was a little annoying. Yeah, so yeah, not all, but yeah
you were intimidated. But then okay, but not for them all for like
a few minutes. Right, No, then you were really nice. I
threw food at you or anything. No, you were really small. I
got over the Google the Go Go boots and the short skirt and everything.
I mean, you know, you're so lovable. How could we not have
had our own little romance? Yeah, and then we we were best friends
ever since. And uh and then also she was very good to me when
Adam broke up with me. We talked about that on this show. But
when he got we got the condo, and then you helped me like you
threw me, Gina threw me a surprise, like you called it the pink
shower, but you registered because I was broken up and I was moving into
the condo. Well, first off. She when she moved in with him,
he made her get away give away, like all of her furniture and
everything. Yeah, so she had nothing and then and I always thought it
was like, why do you only get a shower when you get married or
have a kid, Like, I think you should get a shower, you
know, when you need one, right, she needed one? So yeah,
yeah, she right. But you guys weren't living together when you guys
broke up. Yeah, we were. Oh, I'd been living with him,
so you had to move out when you broke up with you. Yes,
I remember the night when he broke up with me. I went to
Jina's house and I was devastating because we were engaged to get married. And
I slept in Katie's bed for like two weeks and I was in the couch
wait who was engaged to get married? Me and Adam and I were engaged
when you broke up the first time. When he broke up with me,
I thought you weren't engaged, and I thought you wanted to be engaged.
And then he got engaged to when you guys got back together, But they
had like just gotten engaged. Yes, they weren't engaged for very long like
two months, three months, right, Oh, so you were living together
and he fully proposed. Yeah. And then and I came home from work
one night and he opened the door in tears and he was like, I
can't get married. I'm not ready to get married. And I was like
what, I just moved on. He even said like, you're not the
marrying I'm not the marrying type. Yet. He was like, I'm not
the marrying type. I don't know what I'm going to be ready, but
I'm not ready right now. He talked to doctor Drew about it, and
Drew was like, well, you got to let Lynette go. If that's
the case, you gotta tell her. So he broke up with me,
and I that night drove over to Jimmy and Gina's and I was hysterical crying
and Gina was like, oh, come on in, I'll take care of
your Gina, did you know this was going to happen? No, I
was as shocked as she was, because I when it was him, I
picked out her ring, she did pick out my ring. Him and I
went ring shopping together and everything. So you know, he was so like,
oh, I don't know how to do it, and you don't pick
out the ring. So you know, I'm like whipping through Bridle magazine.
Yeah, getting ready to plan this wedding. But you and Jimmy were already
married at that point. We had been married, yeah, like ten years.
Oh okay, so you didn't know. So Jimmy didn't tell you,
Like I had a break up with jim nobody knew. Jimmy didn't know.
I knew before Jimmy. He was shocked. We were all thought, yeah,
yeah and I and then I remember it was very puppy in the background.
She has a puppy, right, you have a puppy. Yeah,
they can hear the puppy. It's Andy. Yeah. His name is Andy,
named after her gay friend Andy Andy Dick. Yeah, but not Andy
Dick. No, did it sick? No? No, not no different
Andy. Okay, so you told you my high school boy. So you
told Jimmy that out that Lynette was broken up with And did he try to
did he try to talk? She was laying on our crying. Yeah.
He came home and he was like what the fuck. And he was like,
what's going on with that? And and then Gina was like, like
that fucking friend of yours broke up with her, that's what happened exactly.
Yeah. And then I remember after week two of being on the couch,
Oh, we went out one night and I remember coming home. It was
your birthday and we were celebrating your birthday. We all went out and I
was so sad still, and we went back to your house and I was
going to go sleep on the couch and I started crying and Jimmy Wright Jimmy
walks by and goes, oh, Annette with the crying still, He's like,
listen, he's not that great, and I'll never forget that. When
he said that, I was like, you know what, He's kind of
right, He's not that great. But yeah, but Gina, yeah,
she took care of me. She took me in. But then I remember,
like, was it like two months in where You're like, I don't
think I can be your friend anymore. I said that because it's too hard.
Oh yeah, remember you were like it's too hard to like hang out
with all you guys and stuff. And I was like, oh, hell
to the no, that is not going to happen. But you did really
pull away. And then then that's kind of what happened. And when I
got divorced, like it was too hard to hang out with all you guys,
Like our lives were so intertwined, did these men? And yeah,
you guys were going to and stuff. Yeah, and I was like left
feeling left out. Yeah, I do remember that and then and then but
I remember not being able to understand that at all, like you're crazy.
We have a friendship outside of that and stuff. But then after I got
divorced, I did feel the same way, like it was hard and we
and I pulled back. Yes, and you did that mean you moved?
Yeah? Well, yeah I moved, but that was just that was more
like something I'd always wanted to do. I'd always wanted to live in the
city. Right, well, let's take it. We're going to take a
really quick break and then we'll get back to more. Okay, and we're
back. Oh but Linette, you and Adam were broken up at that point
for like nine months? Yes? Right? Yeah? So then was it
that long? And I feel like it wasn't It was nine months? Yeah.
So then after after Adam came back, did it it was it all
of a sudden? Did you know that he was going to get back with
her before she knew? No, Because I think you were kind of hiding
it from everybody that you guys were sort of seeing each other on the slide
and kind of hiding it because you know, in case it didn't work out.
I think you didn't want to drag everybody back yet. I mean we
had like a group. Yes, there was a group of us, Sal
and Melissa. Yeah, those guys, those guys traveling and entourage. They
sort of had their entourage. So it wasn't just me. It was like,
you know, everybody that you had to write. I thought it was
more dramatic than that. I thought. He came over and was like,
Okay, he started coming up, I want to marry you. He started
coming over on Friday nights to watch like Boy Meets World and stuff that we
used to watch together and bring dinner and then tells me also like fixing stuff
a lot, Like he could come up with things to fix in your my
condo, but she bought a condo, and he kept coming up with things
that needed to be fixed. But he wasn't saying I want to get back
together. Little by little he started saying, I was like, what's the
deal, Like do you want to get married? And and and then I
remember our therapist Linda. Gina and I had the same therapist, was like,
we have the therapist. Yeah. She was like just live in the
moment, like don't don't question everything, just enjoy and just though that is
impossible. And I did for a while, and then I was like,
well, if we're back together, then that means you get you're gonna want
to get and he's like, yeah, I want to want to get married.
He's like, and I did say at one point, when the Man
Show is done, we have like one more season or something, and then
then we can start planning a wedding, and that's what happened. And then
what happened was is then yeah, right in the middle of all that,
mine left me. In the middle of that, Oh yeah, I planned
what a bachelorette party, a shower times too, to stand with him to
two weddings, two wedding because I was me and Melissa, her other best
friend. So Melissa was getting married to Sally in August and I was getting
married to Adam in September, and Gina was hot on I'm falling apart because
yeah, in fact, he told me he wanted out, like right after
Melissa's shower. So I can remember like unloading the gift. So were you
blindsided? Yeah? Uh, I don't know if I was completely blind sided.
I mean I should say I was blindsided that he wanted out. I
wasn't blindsided that we weren't happy, you know, Yeah, so, but
I didn't I was blindsided. Yeah, I would say, yeah, a
little. I don't know. Weren't you surprised? I mean I would have
thought you would have least waited till after all the wedding. Yeah, a
lot of us were surprised. And it was hard for Gina because again,
she was like the maid of honor for both me and Melissa, and she's
got to throw all these bachelorette parties and bridal showers, and she's got to
be in our wedding back to back two months in a row, and with
him. I walked with him at both wedding. Oh yeah, that's right,
that's right. Oh that must have been so hard, you know,
cause wouldn't that be cute? I know, Oh my god, you know
we're married. Yeah, Gina was so sad. That was really hard.
I was sad. And our friend that used to produce this podcast, right,
was also part of our friend group Kathy was. She was not much
of a friend, but she and Gina were supposed to be like very close.
They were very close for a very long time, and then I think
that she started seeing that her juice was running out or something. I don't
know, but I remember specifically my bachelorette party in Vegas and Wendy flying in
from Chicago and was like, I can't wait to see Gina. I'm going
to give her the biggest hug because she knew everything that was going on.
I was telling Wendy everything well, plus Wendy was the only other person I
knew the divorced, so she understood. She understood, and she was like,
as soon as I get to Vegas. We were all sitting by the
pool. Kathy was off to the corner by herself, reading a book because
she because Gina was. I think she was upset that you were getting a
ton of attention at the time, like everybody was rallying around you. So
Wendy came up and gave Gina the biggest hug, and Gina just melted started
crying. Wendy was crying. They were tugging and talking, and then Kathy
was like, and Wendy was like, and Wendy knew who your best friend
was and really had no alliance to Kathy or well. I remember she said
to me later that this was supposed to be on that weekend and I needed
to hold it together or something like that. Yeah, which later when I
was double fisting tequila shots and making out with some twenty five year old,
I thought I was totally holding it together, you know, at that time
at the pool, right, Yeah, Gina had a good old time.
Yeah, I had a good time. Yeah, we made sure. That's
the first time I had kissed somebody else and like y fifteen years or something
like, yeah, wow, it was weird. How old were you guys
when you guys got married twenty two? You were twenty two? Wow,
yeah, you guys are young. Yeah. Well, you know, Gina
was my first. She's the first. She took me to get my first
massage ever. She took me on my first vacation, like on a cruise.
You got that was fun, Yeah, the four of us. Yes,
I took you out your first massage. Yes, you were like,
you've never had a massiro never forget it. And I think it was on
that cruise because it was before we got married. You guys were still it
was the four of us went on a cruise, three day cruise, and
they had a spat and you were like, oh my god, you're gonna
love going to a spy. You're just gonna love it. And we did
that. And then also I was right, wasn't. Yes, we did
love it, and I was dead. We started our own spa, right,
yeah, yeah, Adam will never let us live that down. I
don't even know how. Yeah, that's like so complicated. I don't know
how. We really talked about that, the spa. We can I mean
we I talked about it a little bit, like we would start off with
doctor Bruce doing these like day showers at people's houses and uh botox parties.
And then Bruce talked to Adam into leasing him a laser machine, and we
were like, let's let's open our own spot, Like why not. We
certainly have gone to enough spots. We know what we're doing, right.
We wanted our own music being played, like, we wanted to be able
to make cocktails. So we rented a house. Oh my god, we
have so many stories about that house on Laurel Canyon, and Adam and Jimmy
were yeah, we opened, and we didn't have the right life illegal,
we didn't have the right permits. We didn't know, we didn't know.
We just were like, we'll just hire a couple of messuses and play some
music, get a bottle of vodka for the guests. And I imagined I
would be getting a massage and a manicure like every day. And that did
not happen. No. Now, so you had nail people and you had
messuses, and you like fancied it was going to be like Burke Williams both
cooler music. Yeah, I mean it was like without that ninety four to
seven the way or like you know, like you were always saying like we
didn't want people to like you know, but they like talk like you know,
we wanted people to be able to listen to their own music and rented
party because that was like the bit started that started, or we started that
trend of like having bachelorette parties and that kind of stuff at spots. So
that was sort of the idea, is that you could a place to congregate
with your girlfriends and you know, tall and like hang out right while getting
a massage versus you know that all that zen. We're not zen. I'm
not very zen. No, we're not very zen. I just want to
pay somebody to touch my back exactly. Did you guys do advertising? Yeah,
yeah we did. Yeah, we were in like I think we were
in a lure magazine. It was US Weekly and it was wives of celebrities
of their own business. Adam and Jimmy were supportive at the time because they
were, like, you know, they were off doing their thing, I
think, still doing the manager and so we were doing our thing and US
Weekly came a colin and they did a photo shoot with me, with Gena
and I and they did a like a like a little article about our spa
and yeah, that was fun. We called it lush Spa. And how
long did we have it? Like just a little over a year as then?
Yeah, yeah, how did it all fall apart? Well, got
twins, I gave birth. You tell me, yeah, do you remember
the day I gave birth. You came to the hospital to tell me that,
Yeah, to tell you that the well, it was illegal. So
we got shut down right right, all right, So we had we had
technical issues, but we are back. And you were saying about coming to
the hospital when Lynette had joins, when the the spa fell apart? Was
when that was? When? Yeah, Building in Safety shut up? Did
they did? They shut us down? And then didn't our owner say she's
like sold the house or something and we had to move. No, it
was them, it was it was Building and Safe. Yeah. Oh they
sent us a letter a season desist. Yeah. Yeah. How did they
find out you were an illegal spa though? Did somebody report you? Guys?
Yeah? I think one of the neighbors did or something, because we
were having a lot of like parties. My god, it was a great
idea. It was one of those pesky loss I know. And I passed
that house all the time now in Laurel, Canaian it's a dump, I
know, run down. I think it was kind of a It looked it
was a show piece, but it was built really bad. Yeah it was.
But it did have like a nice staircase and had the rooms upstairs,
and then Gena and I had our office. It had that glamour look we
were going toward. Yes, yeah, yeah, How did you find that
house in the first place? And why did you get a business in like
a residential like in a neighborhood. Well, because we started by just throwing
spot parties and we would throw them like at my house or Lynnette's house,
and and so then we decided, well, what this is a this is
a cool thing and so so. But you know, we only invited our
friends at that point. So if we were going to have people that you
know, weren't our friends, I didn't want to get sued and stuff.
So we set it up like a business and then we just had all the
parties in one spot, right so ours. Yeah, my niece Jackie worked
for us. She was our assistant for a while, and she was in
love with Jessica Simpson and she always talked about Jessica Simpson at the time.
And I remember I I went to New York. I was out of town
and it was April fools, and you assholes called me on the phone at
like seven o'clock your time, late at night my time, and and you
guys said, uh, oh my god, Lynette, we're getting shut down.
The cops are here, we're getting raided, We're getting slammed with fees
left and right. And I was like, oh my god, oh my
god, oh my god. I was you guys had me going for a
long time. And then Gina gets Jackie's talking to me Anchelnette. Oh my
god, I'm so scared, like she's in tears, and Gina gets on
the phone and Gene goes, yep, and then just as the FBI like
rated us, the FBI, I'm believing it, and Gina goes. Right
after they leave, the limo pulls up and Jessica Simpson gets out or something
like that, and I was like, you mother fuckers cuts like totally had
me going for a long time. I thought we were getting like I thought
Adam was going to kill me, Like we had fees, we were getting
slapped with fines, we were gonna get arrested. Gina was heading off to
jail. Do you remember that vaguely? I was good at the practical,
I was good at the store, yes, yes, yeah, yeah.
You remember the time. Do you remember the time when Jimmy when we were
in Vegas and I called him at like three he was taking care of the
kids and I was, you know, and I called him at like three
o'clock in the morning and told him I had won thirty five thousand dollars at
the craft table. Yeah, and this was when that was like, you
know, serious money for us, right right, right, and and so
I love the number thirty five thousand. That's such a good that doesn't sound
like a lie, like right, twenty thousand could sound like thirty Why would
you say thirty five x that? Because that's why would somebody make that up?
So I believe it. Yeah, fine, we bought it. Well.
Then he was like because I had woken him out of a stupor,
so he was just sort of like, oh, well, that's nice and
I'll talk to you tomorrow. So I thought, oh, I didn't get
the joke that, you know, I was hoping for. But then the
next morning he called it like eleven. He's like, did you call me
last night and tell me you won thirty five thousand dollars? And I was
like, oh my god, yeah you would. I was like a star.
I was like a celebrity. Everybody was cheering me on, and I
was like telling him the rolls, like I had five sevens in my come
out roll and you know, the whole thing. And he was like,
oh my god, Oh my god. Then he hung up and he called
back. Do you remember this? He called back like twenty minutes later because
he had called everybody how to get the cash home? This is what you're
gonna do, Wene. That's gonna take ten thousand, and we're going to
take ten thousand. This is how we're going to get this money home.
Like he called every gambling because he doesn't gamble, so he called like every
gambling friend he knew. And I was like, oh, though it's gone,
and he's like gone, got and I he said, well, because
then you know, we went back down. And then that was like black,
and so I put this on black they could own. Then we lost
so god, But the point was that I was like a celebrity, like
I was getting all this attention for like two years. He was so pissed
at me and everywhere we would go. Wait, so that wasn't even like
and then this one I never told him the truth, he thought him,
So you did that all the time, all the time. This one lost
thirty five dollars thousand dollars at a craps table? Can you believe? Well,
I know you should tell him now, let me text him, Yeah,
text him? Hey, remember like yeah, I remember him and Sally
they were the king of practical jokes. They did that a lot. So
it's not really a practical joke though, it's just more of a lie if
you never tell the person like, hey, just kidding. I think I
had intentions of telling him. He was such a jerk about That's how Gina
was trying to make me feel bad that I was like, well, you
know what, he doesn't deserve to know. Oh my god, that's so
funny. Yeah, yeah, oh my god, so many stories. But
yeah, I used to love Vegas, like when I was eighteen. I
feel like you and I have talked about this. That was like my not
eighteen, I was probably like twenty twenty one. We would and I was
so poor and I was a cocktail waitress. So if we had like a
really good weekend or whatever, we take like one hundred dollars drive to Vegas
and then just like we called it chip hustling, we would try to flirt
with guys so that they would, you know, we'd try to flirt with
rich guys at a table, and if they gave you a chip to get,
you know, they love to be like, oh here, sweetie,
Like here's some money to gamble with. So I'd squirrel some of that away,
like in my pocket, and then you play with some of it,
but you kind of hide some of it and then if you win, you
you just keep like you skim off of yourself. Cause if they're going,
if the guys are gonna give you money, they wanted to stay at the
table and drink and play, you know, like a prostitute, which I
wasn't. It's like the old bathroom girls from them, Yeah, from like
breakfast to Tiffany's. Remember that's how she ear under her income to the bathroom
right right right, so yeah, and then bathroom right right. So that
was super fun. And then I had a nickname for you at the craps
table, Gina fucking A, like because you were rolling and you were like
making us a lot of money at one point and I was like and we
were at some hotel or some blagia was it the blog? And they were
like you can't swear. You can't swear at these tables. We were at
opposite ends of the table, right, and I was getting in trouble for
swearing. But I was like, Gina fucking A, she did it again,
and it like stops, like who can't swear in Vegas? Well,
I remember he'd like moved your chips off the table and you were like,
what the hell? Or whatever, and then he's and then they called over
the pit boss and there like you you have to leave? Yeah, they
me out, and Lennette was like, are you okay? We're all ready,
come on girls, and then nobody left. I was winning, winning,
just because she can't keep the cuss words out of her mind. There's
no reason why we should all have to lose. So she marched off,
and I think you waited in the bar until I did. I did.
One time I was wearing a T shirt. Do you remember when it was
all the rage to wear T shirts that looked like they said like Coca Cola
or coke, but they said something else. It was a very trendy thing.
And I was wearing one that looked like it said coke but it said
cunt. And I got kicked out of a casino because people's figured it out.
Yeah, it was many many years fancies, I mean probably, but
they were like, your shirt has an obscenity on it, and I was
like so like and they're like, yeah, it's it's like the same as
kicking you up for swearing. So they booted me out. They told me
I had to go change my shirt, which I refused because I thought it
was really funny. We gotta go to Vegas, Gene, I miss it.
It's not as much fun when you're old. We have a couple of
times. I mean we used to go to the night clubs and all that
kind of stuff. Yeah, that was fun. Yeah, I really want
to go see the Thunder. Oh I want to go see naked guys.
Oh well, I don't do that. I got the hook up with Chippendale's
with Vinnie. I know, I want. I want to do that.
We should go. Have you ever been? I went to Chippendale's a couple
of years ago on my fiftieth birthday because one of the guys from Jersey Shores.
And you don't watch Jersey Shore. She doesn't watch trashy TV. She
does like true crime though, but that's why I'm an intellectual. Yes,
she reads books. But who is the lady that you asked me if I
knew about the other day, the lady with the what's her what's her name?
Oh yeah, Rosie the River. She didn't know who Rosie the River.
I don't know she had a name. I know she is, I
didn't know she had a name. She's on a million T shirts and KEI
Chen. Yeah, I didn't know she had a name, Rosie. Think
they put Ruth Bader Ginsburg base on her head at one point. See I
know her, God rest herself good. Yeah, I didn't know who you
were going to say. I thought it was going to be like Rachel Maddow.
It's like you don't know who Rachel Madow is. No, of course
I know Rachel Maddow. So, Gina, where should we Is there any
like Instagram things we should follow you on or anything you want to plug her?
No? No, this is like the first time Gina's talk, like
spoken in public really since the divorce, right, Yeah, yeah, I
kind of kept a very low profile. That must have been hard. So
was Jimmy already famous at the time that you guys got divorced? Oh yeah
yeah yeah, he just got the ABC deal. He just signed his ABC
contract. Yeah that sucks. Yeah that was hard. Yeah yeah. So
do you feel like you had like the friends split up like or do you
feel like it was because you had said it was kind of your own,
like it hurt to be around you needed to like disconnect. Well, well,
I think the way I don't know, it's like the way they were
with the man show and all that stuff. They were such a close knit
group, and he is he just likes his sort of his people, and
so he wasn't very good at letting new people in. So it was like,
you have to be friends with all these the wives, and so I
had a couple of girlfriends like outside of this group, but he didn't really
like we didn't socialize with them. They were just sort of like my mommy
friends and stuff. That was just stuff like I did with the kids.
So then I mean it's hard for them too, right, because all of
their bouses and significant others and stuff. They all worked together, and I
mean it really was kind of like good fellows, right, we just come
out with each other, right, right, and nobody else and like that
was the family or whatever. So it was more I mean, like I
think when I it was just me, everybody was like really very supportive and
trying to invite me to stuff and all that kind of stuff. But then
I started seeing somebody, and then that's just weird. I like, you
know, none of these guys were gonna like hang out with Chris or I
don't know. It just became sort of awkward and and then you know,
you there's a part of you that feels left behind, right, Like they're
all this Hollywood life and all that kind of stuff, and I'm double fisting
raw cookie dough about right, you know, well reading about his new girlfriend.
So it just, uh, I don't know, it just seemed easier
to walk away. And I was never one to like, you know,
I mean we met in college, and it's not like, you know,
like I thought out this life or whatever, you know, when we got
married. I didn't think that, oh you know, I wasn't marrying a
celebrity when we got married, it's my point. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, that's tough. It was. It was hard for her and
we we didn't you know, it was tough. So we didn't talk for
a while, you know, and it was yeah, I mean, it
wasn't like we didn't not talk. I'd just say we you know. But
then especially because of the way that was, it was like everything in their
life was all about that, So there wasn't really anything to talk about,
yeah, right, because I didn't want to hear about all this stuff that's
going on. Yeah right, And uh yeah, it just seemed easier to
move on, I guess or whatever. But it's not like we never No,
no, we didn't have like a like we kept in touch. Yeah,
I mean it was It's not like we broke up or anything, right,
right, but now we've been talking. Then luckily we got divorced and
now we're in the same clock, me and Geena x Y globe. Yeah.
Now I'm glad you guys have each other. Thank you to like commiserate.
Not that Gina, you probably don't need commiseration anymore, but you can
help Lynette. Well, it is a tough thing to navigate sometimes, right
because you're because you do, you feel left behind and you can't just you
know, never see it. I mean, you we see your kids,
so of course we're going to see each other again, but you know,
like there's the billboards and the bus crap and the magazine things, and I
just remember like moving to Chicago and being like whoa, and then getting in
a cab and then he's doing like a goddamn commercial for fastening your seatbelt or
something and you're like, oh my god, I cannot rid myself on this.
Wow, I know, And then there's no support group for that because
I remember, who is it spelling toy? Is that to spell that?
Boyfriend? Had that right, he left his wife for her, and like
I emailed his wife wife. I was like, hey, he never answered
me back, right, please talk to me. I don't know what to
do. Yeah, but she never answered me back. Yeah, there's no
support group for a kook. Ex wives of you know, yeah, like
how do you not right? Look at crap? Yeah? Yeah, but
you landed on your feet pretty well. She got a hot boyfriend. Her
boyfriend Chris as sweet as pie and he's very cute, Yes, cute,
and they've been together a long time. Yeah, twenty years. Okay,
there you go a long time. Yeah, Wall's well, that ends well,
and you look good, beautiful email you still have that mug as Ray
would say, Oh my god. Yeah, did they know has Ray been
on your show? He's been on our show. What did he say to
you that one time? Well, Ray was painting our house at the time
that he's left, and I just remember, like, you know, you
don't get out of bed like I was all the time, you know,
And uh so I remember he made me some tea and were sitting in the
kitchen and he's like, look, it's gonna be all right, Like you
know, you don't got so much of a body. But you got a
good mug. Oh my god, that's right for you. Wow, right,
well protect the mug. Well, thank you, Gina. This has
been fun. I'm so glad you were. This was fun. It was
so nice to meet. And I guess the next thing we do is go
watch naked men. Right, yeah, let's do it. Let's do it.
They go watch make naked men. Come on, kle all right,
we'll be in l A at the first of the year or so. Okay,
good good, all right, all right, I love you date bye
bye, it's good. Let a go