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Hello, ladies, gentlemen, Welcome
back to The Boys season four review.

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This is episode five. I'm the
clown Prince of Phases dressed now and I'm

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support portion. What did you feel about

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episode five? Oh? I really
really enjoyed it. I just get excited

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when it's cooking up to the release
of another Boys episode, and it just

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they don't disappoint each episode. I
feel like it's unique and well some people

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say that this is obviously a filler
one. I don't feel like it was.

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I feel like we got the narrative
movie we speaking to saying that stuff.

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We just keep online. I surf
the comments sections of posts. I

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usually start with what IGN always fucks
up their rating, and so they do

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a horrible rating for this episode,
and then everyone underneath the comments is like,

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this was a fantastic episode. This
is the best one of the seasons

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so far. What are you talking
about? Yeah, yeah, there's like

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the odd one that's like a horrible
filler episode. I just I like seeing

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the drama. I think this was
great though. This was this was a

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lot of fun. It was bittersweet
because there were was some emotional things that

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transpired as well. But we got
we got some pretty engaging developments with some

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of our characters. And again there
was just some The show is so good

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at just being humorous. And it's
humorous because it can parallel what we have

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in real life so well. And
I wonder, like, is there a

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DC or a Disney execs somewhere that
watches the Boys and just sees what the

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boys does. It's think, Okay, I get haha, they're taking a

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shot at us, like and I'm
sure you know what. Yeah. Yeah.

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And I just Disney plus gave them
like half their content for this episode.

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I was saying in the jew Ah, absolutely yeah. So it's just

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it's it's a lot of fun and
I it makes me laugh and there are

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some things down to the wire that
I really do U. It's interesting and

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this is stuff with like with Ashley
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with Vaught. This episode was just
it was absolutely bonkers and just I'm I'm

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I'm looking forward to being able to
mention it when we get into the spoilers

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because there's just one scene where it's
just it's it's a nice moment, but

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you know, there's no such thing
as nice moments in this show because it's

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gonna just turn into it turns into
a nightmare and it's like, oh,

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my fucking god, what did I
just see? But anyways, I it

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was a great episode. There you
go. I'm on your those comments you're

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surfing. I won't go as far
as saying it's a complete filler episode,

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but it's like kind of that.
It's definitely my least favorite of the season.

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But there is story moments, lots
of stuff with you and his dad.

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There's some developments with this virus thing. Uh but uh yeah, I

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think it's just the main thing that
was going on for the action, and

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it was fine, like I got
some laughs, but then I was kind

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of over it quickly and it went
on for a while, so that was

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something. And then same thing of
like I still got lots of laughs with

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the with the vaunt stuff, but
that was also just again doesn't propel us

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too much for it, And a
lot of the jokes I felt were they

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were good, but they're I don't
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I feel like they're jokes that we
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it's not like they're very clever stuff. It's just kind of like sat tying

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in the August, which is fine
sometimes, but yeah, overall, like,

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I still liked it definitely. It's
not an episode where I remember there's

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that one episode of gen V where
I was like, oh man, this

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was really not good and I'm worried. Not bad, it's just I feel

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like this was a lesser than episode. There is some cons I have some

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stuff going on with Frenchie where I'm
kind of still like, eh, like,

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what are we doing here? And
then Ryan and Homelander that stuff I'll

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mention get more deeper into spoilers,
but I feel like they're kind of all

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over with that storyline. I feel
like they're going one way and then they

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went another way, and now they're
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it's almost in a way, it's
nowhere as bad as let's just say May

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from Acolyte, but it has some
of those isms where I thought we developed

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this character a certain way and now
we've kind of regressed them a little bit.

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So I'm kind of confused not saying
those scenes are bad, and I

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like the dynamic there. I just
wish then, why wasn't this the dynamic

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the whole time where for episode like
two and three it was like, actually,

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no, Ryan's like this, and
I was like no, no,

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no, no, he's never mind
that stuff. So it's odd. I'm

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waiting to see what they do with
that. But overall, still good episode.

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It's mid season, so I think
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the last few episodes. Obviously some
big developments there with Butcher. It's eight,

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right, that's the total. It's
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half. We only got three episodes
left, so yeah, soose my non

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twoy thoughts. Uh yeah, we'll
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spot so we'll be right back and
we're back. So yeah, I want

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to start with Ryan Homelander because so
we meet Ryan originally, he's a nice

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kid because his mom mom dies,
he's kind of a lost soul. Homelander

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gets some kind of adopts, so
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And I had mentioned this because I
read watched the show and at the

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end of season three, when Homelander
Laser's that guy he's laughing, and then

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Ryan kind of smiles, saying like, oh, this is great. My

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dad's being cheered and this is like
the way it's supposed to go, right.

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And then I feel like in episode
one, two and three, this

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was a plain of mind, and
we talked about this where it felt like

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they kind of baited me where they're
trying to be like, oh, he's

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gonna be a mini Homelander, but
they're showing like he wanted to actually save

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people. He didn't like the setup, he didn't like this, he didn't

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like a Vault ran. He was
wanting Homelander not to kill Butcher and he

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wont to have a relationship with Butcher, and Homelander was getting mad at him,

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and then he was just kind of
not around for four and then for

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five. It feels like that stuff
that happened in those first three episodes was

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almost non existent because he just feels
like a little shit again. So and

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I know, because he is a
kid character, but I felt like they

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were trying to develop him of he
was a shit. But he saw the

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stuff Homelander and Vault was doing and
going, you know what, this isn't

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right. But now he's getting that
director's slab and they're like laughing. So

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I don't know, are they trying
to make a mini Homelander or are they

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trying to make him get redeemed?
And I feel like they're too much all

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over the place with this right now. So I have an inkling that again,

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he doesn't like to hurt people himself, but I think he enjoys seeing

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other people get hurt by others.
But does that fit what we got with

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like one to three where I feel
like they're trying to redeem him and show

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he's a nice kid with Butcher and
everything, Like I never felt like he

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was a nice kid, but I
felt like he was. Yeah, well

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he's not a nice kid, no, he I mean, he's murdered people

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and he's I think he's not.
He's not He's not He's not bad either.

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I think he's just he's a kid
trying to figure out where he fits

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into things. That's all he is. And so it depends on which part

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of who he is is he going
to act on. Is he gonna act

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on being achieving to be like that
nice kind person, or is he gonna

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act on, I mean, that
bad person. So he's at that crossloads

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where he has to figure out which
path he's going to go down. And

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I think as a character, he
just he dabbles back and forth because he's

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indecisive and he doesn't have Butcher and
that good angel kind of on his shoulders.

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The most part of Butcher is a
poor example of being a good angel

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to have on your shoulders. But
he definitely helps helps him kind of have

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a little bit more of a level
head and and I think try to be

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better, but Homelanders just got him
under his umbrella, and he in this

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episode, he lays it out to
Ryan that oh, you know, I'm

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I've been manipulated my whole life and
I was doing that to you. And

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so he's like it's like reverse psychology. He just kind of easily starts manipulating

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Ryan now in this episode. So
and I think that was some of the

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development of last week of him killing
off some of those people that manipulate him.

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Right, they feel like he's gained
some sort of perspective on that and

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how they did that to him.
So he's want to do the Sun So

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again, I think they just made
it for me, went a little too

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hard on He was like feeling really
bad about killing the guy and didn't want

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to do these things and kind of
straight back at Homelander. But we'll see

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again, not a negative. I'm
waiting to see how it continues to go,

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and I'm waiting to see what is
the line then for Ryan, what

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is Homelander gonna do that gets them
that way? I wonder if there is

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a chance that he kills Butcher and
we get a season five without Butcher because

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it is his last season. I
feel like they would just bring Carl Urban

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back for some flashbacks or something or
dream sequences. But maybe that's how we

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get to that point. But I
am curious what's gonna happen. But yeah,

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there wasn't much else with Homelander in
this episode other than they found the

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supposed leak, which they were wrong. There good building because Sage the whole

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time is dropping a little hints of
like, yeah, it's like the evidence

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just ran out of that room,
you know, and so a train knows

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I'm gonna fuck. He talks to
Ashley, who you know. He says,

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oh, we're the same, we're
working against vun. She's like,

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I just took a dump in his
toilet. But again, excluding the dumb

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this helping me of last season,
she is slowly turning. She said,

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it's an episode where she's like,
I don't want to be like a turncoat

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or you know, it sounds like
a Hawk situation where it is like,

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uh, you know, I don't
want you know, it's not that I

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want you to win it, so
I want Kyler rend to lose. And

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I fink that's where she is,
where she was still down to be a

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ship person. Uh. The guy
that she did give up as like the

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blood of the leak was the guy
that she's been sleeping with. She want

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he wanted She wanted him to wear
some like anal electrical sex tool, ejaculate

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on stage, yes, and he
was just like I don't think I'll be

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doing that and you're not. I
need my domin my domina to dominate and

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you're not. Yeah, so he's
gone, And but I did think.

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I didn'tink a tray was gone there, but I did think that was gonna

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be a scene there. They didn't
kill him though, right, They just

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were kicking the shit out of him. I would think you'd have to die

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from eternal bleeding though, but they
well, they didn't show it though,

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which makes me think next week you're
getting the question him right, like maybe,

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and you got the you got the
the Vaught kids in there too,

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the gen v Ones from Glocken or
whatever the fuck's clock and that's all just

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say gen v I'm not gonna remember
that, but yeah they yeah, they

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were in there for a quick cup
of tea because uh the other Oh that's

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what I was gonna ask. So
anympointant, do you think that was a

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train like when they said they got
a leak and they're all kind of circling

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him, Do you think a tray
was a goner or his cover at least

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was gone. No. I think
that they were gonna keep it because when

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he when he unveiled to Ashley,
I think that was like, okay,

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yeah, Ashley's gonna pull through and
and do something. She's like outside the

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room, smiling and all happy to
herself. I know. It's just such

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a little shit character in the best
way. But uh, yeah we got

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those characters because the gen v characters
got Sam and what was her name?

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I can't remember, but uh,
they're doing a Freaky Friday movie because what

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they do it literally is just think
about Kevin Figgy on stage presenting the Disney

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Plus slate or Disney slate, but
then also just saying shit like that is

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true. At one point, a
tro and he's like he talked about the

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reshoots of the show. He's like, yeah, we reshot it, you

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know, to make sure it was
good, and we wanted to be good,

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so we reshot it. It's the
most extensive reshot movie in history.

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Here it is. And people,
of course were showing a lot of screenshots

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of Captain America, New World Order
coming up or Brave New World because how

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many stopping starts that have. But
I feel like, yeah, there's their

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slate. This definitely was like and
they go both ways, right because the

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first couple of seasons they're talking about
like the Dawn of the Seven, and

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there's a lot of Snyder's stuff and
Snyder cut jokes, but here this was

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like every joke everything that we've said
is like wrong about Disney Plus they do

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it here. But yeah, those
gen v kids are doing a Freaky Friday

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type movie. But there's so many
different ones just to look at, like

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Guardians of Goodalkin flipped that's the one
that I guess there, that's the one,

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that's that's the one. Yeah,
Homelander versus Soldier Boy Annihilation. Uh,

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like yeah, a train into the
multiverse, like that's yeah, they

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put out I'm not sure if he
saw on Twitter. They put it fake

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press releases out for this some of
these projects and that when they said like

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he was gonna play multiple versions of
himself like the Flash. So again they

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they're just hidden on that stuff.
Again, nothing to like out of this

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world, like, oh, that's
such a clever joke. Like they're good

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jokes, like they're satire jokes that
I enjoy. But yeah, I enjoyed

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that whole Vault portion, the whole
fucking storyline of Deep Threatened in a sleep.

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That guy's wife was very odd and
just like you know, and I

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can keep going because I breathe through
the water, so I'm gonna have no

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problems everything like that. But I
enjoyed the whole Vault thing. Again,

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that was did sometimes make it feel
like a filler stuff, but I still

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got a good laugh out of it, and I enjoyed it. Yeah,

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it's the deepest just going to town
on him, like holy shit, that

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was. That was something. But
and he the guy turned around, what's

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his name? Tech Technite No tech
Night is the other guy that from gen

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V. Right, so this was
just the reporter guy. I can't remember

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his name though, but yeah,
he's like I got like dirt on YouTube,

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buddy, like your tentacles at home
or what eight yeah, eight Armed

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Lover or whatever it was. Yeah, yeah, I did like tech night

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When they were telling about his movie, he's like, yeah, the sequel

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came out last year and we're rebooting
it. It's only been a year,

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but we think it's time, you
know, and that that was a good

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shot, like superhero culture because like
how many reboots and stuff we get after

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like oh fails, Like, well, let's let's restart it. So I

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like to seeing the gen V crossover. They didn't do much. I thought

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they might have a bigger role.
They just kind of stopped by and said

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high. But that's fine, you
know. Yeah, what did you think

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about Huey his dad and his mom's
sequence. So they're at the hospital,

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as we said last week, the
mom mistakenly foolshit. He gave the fathersome

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compound V to save him, and
it starts off with him seeming fine,

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but then it slowly deteriorates into madness
with Hughe's dad. Yeah, this ah,

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it's just fucking crazy. I was
my jaw dropped because I thought,

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oh, he's losing his mind little
bit. His memory is getting a little

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hazy, and then all of a
sudden, he's staying in this room.

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He pulled this herd out of this
person, and he can't control his powers

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because he can walk through walls,
which I like because it reminds me kind

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of of Hughey's powers, because Hue
could teleport and so his dad could kind

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of go in and out of reality
through walls. And I think you should

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also look at the meaning behind that, because he was talking to the ex

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wife and he was saying like,
oh, there's so many times you made

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me feel like invisible and you didn't
see me. So I think that's what

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they're going for too, that,
like the power is almost manifested from his

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emotional state as well. Interesting yea, I feel like that'd be a really

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good power against Homelander, to be
honest, because he you, and you

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just turn it like transparent, so
he couldn't actually hit you. Yeah,

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there's a few ways you can counter, but yeah, he just he freaks

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out. He starts running, and
then it cuts to this fucking scene where

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this guy is recovering. Well,
he's talking to the nurse like, oh,

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you know you let me take you
on a date. She's like okay,

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and then he so I'm in.
Peg just runs and he's freaking out

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and he just stops in this guy's
body and screams and he's spinning around,

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his guts start pouring out, and
the nurses fucking freaking out. It's like

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the show is just absolutely ridiculous.
That's what I was posted on Twitter.

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I just thought, this is fucking
crazy. I can't believe it. Yeah,

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I did take me for a loop
there because I knew something was gonna

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happen, but I didn't know like
frum Peg was gonna just accidentally like half

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the man and like spe his guts
out everywhere. But that's what did happen.

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And the boys always has those good
moments, and yeah, he was

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Dad goes on like a because the
come up. He also like messes with

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his mind a little bit and like
thinks he's like twenty years younger than he

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actually is because he he starts talking
to him, he's like, you're not

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my son, like my son eleven
years old. And here's jack quaidn as

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like a third year old dude.
So that was interesting. I didn't understand

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because we haven't seen that with compound
vs. I'm just gonna take that as

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like he's sick. He's older,
so that's why it's not really he was

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like brain dead at one point too, right, so his brain's little fuck

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that's true. But yeah, quite
the sequence where he accidentally kills a bunch

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of people and they find someone to
lock him up and they pretty much just

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give him a you know, a
assistant suicide and uh yeah, it was

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a good scene. It was.
It's it feels so odd now because I

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thought they literally did this just to
get the mum back in the fold.

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I know, I thought they're gonna
be killing Simon peg Off. I thought

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it was just okay, mum will
being here some drawing for Hughie then moved

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back to the Boys. But I
don't know, like it's it's kind of

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weird a little bit like also,
we had the next season coming up,

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and we'll see where he is now, but for the majority of the season,

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he's not been with the Boys or
Starlight, you know, it's all

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it's it's kind of like Starlight joined
the team and took his place. Well,

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he went to go do other things
in this show, even the pilot

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or the first episode this season,
I felt like he was with Starlight but

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still not doing as much with the
boys, So it is interesting. I

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hope for that sake for the last
year, he gets out of there and

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starts doing some stuff. They're gonna
they're gonna need some people because I think

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Buscher Butcher is gonna be like m
I a frenchie, am I A So

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I feel like they might need uh, they might need got what's his name,

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Hueie Hughey's help. Yeah, but
yeah, overall, good storyline.

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I enjoyed it. I was thinking
of that surprise sign peg bit it.

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I mean, Hughey was helping a
little bit, right, He was with

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MM and almost got killed by Homelanders, So I think that kind of set

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this straight, like, Okay,
I need to take a break here and

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and help my dad out a little
bit. So there's that, I guess.

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But yeah, with it with his
dad got out of the picture,

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now, I think he's definitely gonna
be kind of going back to the boys

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and helping them out. And yeah, I think I really enjoyed seven Peg

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on this episode. He did a
good job and it was a very very

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heart felt moment when they were basically
euthanizing him and yeah, talking about going

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to Paris and stuff. Yeah,
and they were setting it up to about

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possible engagement Hughie and Starlight, Yes, marry, But I don't know if

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the show will let that happen.
I think something i'd beel like one of

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them is gonna die before that happens. Really, I think they'll both make

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it in my opinion. I think
some other people are gonna bite it,

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but I think Hugh and Starlight will
get a happy ending. I really do.

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Do you think this means Hugh's mom
is gone from the show? You

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think she's gonna stick around? Oh, she'll stick around. I think they're

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gonna keep the one parent for a
little bit. Yeah, I agree.

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I agree. So yeah, I
don't know where she fits exactly what the

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boys. I think the one parent
makes sense. But she worked for didn't

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she? I thought that was kind. She worked from like a department.

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I think she's working with the evil
Vaught, but we're still unclear, so

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she could be right. So that's
a tough thing. Frenchie, what do

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you think is going on here?
Obviously last week he's coming to terms with

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you know, you had that new
boyfriend he had killed her family. He's

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feeling very guilty about multiple slayings,
and he decides that he's gonna turn himself

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in as a murderer. How do
you feel about this? It's not a

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story I really need, Like he
and he's just yeah, he's back,

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He's doing tons of drugs, and
it's it's just it's basically what oh what

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is his name, Carla Eburn's partner
in crime here walking? Yes, thank

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you. Yeah. So he's basically
calling it out as as it is,

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like, oh, Butcher, your
team is just a wreck, Like he

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got a druggie, got like Huie
and all these characters and two mediocre soups.

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So I just I think he's pretty
spot on in regards to Frenchie just

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being like a druggy. Like for
the first couple of seasons, I really

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really liked Frenchie as a character.
I thought he was really awesome. But

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right now I understand that they're trying
to give him this this level of depth.

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But I don't need a full hour
episode. We're fifteen to twenty minutes

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of it is Butcher and MM going
to the jail, just trying to talk

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some sense of a French sheeet and
try and get him out of there.

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Like I don't need that, and
I feel like that is filler level.

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I want to, like I want
I wanted to see Kimiko actually make it

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through with French shee and like talk
it out and just like Okay, let's

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have like a quick five minute scene
here and then have some action unfold and

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just kind of help French she get
over it. Yeah. Yeah, I

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feel like this was more a season
four finale play where all the dust is

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settled and he goes there and you
kind of think, oh, that's where

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he's gonna be for a bid.
He'll take a little break and then we

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pick up maybe he's at the end
of his sentence or they got to bust

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them out. But as of right
now, I don't have much interest in

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the story. And I also just
feel like I get it because somebody is

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take care of himself se yes in
the real world, but I just feel

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like it's almost selfish in a way, like they're in this big battle and

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it's like now's that time for you
to have like a crisis of confidence,

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like help us win, like help
us get this cure or whatever virus,

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take out Homeland or get Newman out
of office, or make some sort of

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deal, and then I try and
do this. So I don't know,

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it's I'm I'm interesting what they do
for the full up episodes, but I

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just feel like it's gonna end up
like the boys just breaking him out and

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he has to help or there's some
misunderstanding, so we'll see. Like I

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said, I'm not as invested in
a Frenchy story this year, not because

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it's a gay story, just because
like I just don't have anything to care

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about what the story really as of
yet. So who else have we not

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the main mission? So we got
the crew they had to break up Choun

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Carla Esposito or s Positive, so
you got that, got Newman. So

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it's a very X two united situation
where it's multiple groups of people that don't

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get along that have to work along
to take out you know, the one,

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the one issue. So I I
think it is the first time I

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thought since the head popping that maybe
Newman could become an asset and they could

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work together, and I think it
might work their interest, but then her

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getting John Carlaespozzo at the end didn't
seem good. It seemed like they were

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up to no good. So I
really don't know what they're doing with that

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character. But yeah, what do
you think? Yeah? I think I

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mean her breaking him out at the
end seemed like it was coming from a

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place of sentiments and that she just
really needs him because she just lost her

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her partner, I guess the father
of her, her daughter, Samir.

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And so that that was the guy
that was shackled up, right, Yeah,

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yeah, because Butcher cut the leg
off and made it look like he

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got eaten. Was that the scientist
from Mandalorian the cloner guy? Oh?

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You know what? That's right?
I think it is. Yeah, It's

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kind of funny that he's like this
important person that's looking after like science DNA

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stuff. When I saw I'm like, really that's him. So yeah,

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So do you think Newman is gonna
like kill Home, like let's say in

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the scenario which you kill Homeland and
then she begins the boys and Hughie and

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Starlin and everything, or do you
think it's she's gonna have maybe a change

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of heart and maybe she won't get
to do the full good guy hero term,

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but maybe not so selfish for herself
just where getting to kill. I

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don't think she's gonna kill home Lander. And we don't even know if the

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head popping would work right if they
we don't know. Yeah, so I

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think they're gonna I think she's afraid
of Homelander, but she also knows that

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Homelander wants her to come out as
a soup to have that representation, I

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guess, But yeah, I don't
know. There's a there's a weird dynamic

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going on between those two characters.
But I think she's really interesting and I

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like how she was kind of antagonizing
Starlight a little bit, and Starlight's going

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through her own thing right now too. And just when they're all in the

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basement, when they're checking out the
site and their noses start bleeding a little

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bit, It's like, Fuck,
what a horrible situation to be in.

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This woman could just pop your head
at any time, and once your nose

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bleeds, you got a little feeling
of the go oh, it's coming.

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But she held off, and she
did. Were you surprised that she busted

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out? I can't remember his character's
name, but John Carlow at the end

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there, he came out for a
venture. They said, Hey, if

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we get this, you can be
free. They didn't get this, so

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I went back. Obviously him and
Knwan. Even this episode, she makes

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sort of line. He's like,
oh, it feels like being betrayed.

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Not like he's much better and smarter, but he took a couple of shots

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at her. But uh yeah,
what are you feeling about uh this situation

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here? Well, yeah, I'm
just I'm curious what's gonna develop out of

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this and where he's gonna fit in. For some reason, I thought that

405
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,720
he actually got killed. But I'm
glad that he is still alive because he's

406
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such a great actor and it'll be
just to see how he plays into this

407
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:30,920
this story here. So I'm glad
he's still kicking around, but I'm curious

408
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:37,279
to see what is gonna unfold with
with the relationship. Yeah, oh so

409
00:25:37,319 --> 00:25:42,640
you got those What did you feel
about the uh the uh super Yeah,

410
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,200
what do you feel about that?
I enjoyed it, but I thought went

411
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,720
a little long for me. I
wasn't enjoying it like some other stuff.

412
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:49,640
But I think it sounds like you
got a good kick out of it.

413
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,359
I got a good kick out of
it. I just love that it kept

414
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,440
getting amped up and up and up
with the chickens. Like it made me

415
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,400
think of like a chest burst from
Alien because the one guy is standing there

416
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,119
and then a chicken just shoots through
his chest and they're all like, it's

417
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,839
just it's so funny because there's their
reactions. I think Mike did bring up

418
00:26:07,839 --> 00:26:14,160
a good point in our discord about
how come she didn't head burst the animals.

419
00:26:14,839 --> 00:26:17,839
She did, she had bursted a
couple of them, but like,

420
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,680
could she just not pop off that
degree to get them all? I guess,

421
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:26,039
you know, oh, there's probably
something going on that makes it a

422
00:26:26,079 --> 00:26:29,920
little bit more difficult for her to
do that. Maybe it's a degree of

423
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,160
focus, like if she goes out
there and tries to do it to a

424
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,559
sheep, like those sheep were moving
fucking fast, and I mean, if

425
00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:37,839
you do it to one, then
maybe the others get to you too.

426
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,440
But uh, the bowl was really
funny. I was just standing there and

427
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,720
they're all freaking out, and then
all, yeah, the sheep were absolutely

428
00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:52,160
terrifying. They had these vampiric jawlines
and they were flying and they had super

429
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,519
strength, Like jeesus, it was
just fucking nuts. So I thought that

430
00:26:56,599 --> 00:27:00,440
was great. Yeah, the chickens
were great. Look at that say his

431
00:27:00,519 --> 00:27:03,440
name any shallop here? Did you
guys feel like they made the soups less

432
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,519
powerful artificially extend the animal tax scene
Newman could just pop their heads off.

433
00:27:07,599 --> 00:27:10,160
So, like Theayre says, maybe
it's a case of you need some time

434
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,839
to charge up moving too fast.
I agree with Mike where it didn't break

435
00:27:14,839 --> 00:27:15,559
it for me, it's like bringing
down a bunch of points. But it

436
00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:19,440
did feel this situation. That's why
I felt like it went on too long.

437
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,519
I would have bought the one attack. It's happening too quick, you

438
00:27:22,519 --> 00:27:25,440
don't know what to do. Maybe
that's why you don't have pop any initially,

439
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,680
but the fact that kind of kept
going through different animals kind of lost

440
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,880
the lesser for me. Again,
not bad. I think it's just one

441
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,759
of the boys hijinks that I didn't
end up loving there. But I did

442
00:27:33,799 --> 00:27:37,599
like some of the character dynamics,
and I really liked the Butcher dynamics where

443
00:27:37,599 --> 00:27:40,519
again she's like, oh yeah,
I kind of deal with her. He's

444
00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:41,319
like, oh fuck you man.
He's like I didn't take it. I

445
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,599
didn't take it, and and them
kind of like sticks up for him as

446
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,279
well too, so and he gives
a little like Spielb. While each of

447
00:27:48,279 --> 00:27:52,359
them are great, could be an
asset. So there were some good things.

448
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,400
And I think this is my last
note. I'm floating this out here.

449
00:27:55,759 --> 00:28:00,000
Wasn't my theory? Do you think
Jeffrey de Morgan is in Butcher's head

450
00:28:00,279 --> 00:28:10,240
because he's not interacting with anyone but
Butcher. Hmmm, that's an interesting take,

451
00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:17,480
rightly, there's one way that we
could debunk this. I'm gonna quickly

452
00:28:17,519 --> 00:28:23,319
check something in the episode. Okay, hold on fifty eight minutes, everybody.

453
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:30,559
Yeah, I'm a script through it. But yeah, no, That's

454
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,359
what I'm doing here is I'm just
going to the end because I want to

455
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:42,880
see I want to see. Sorry, if the Samir looks at Butcher only,

456
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:48,359
or if he's looking at Morgan,
because I saw a screenshot he does

457
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,079
look at Jeffer Deane Morgan. But
people also theorize he could just be looking

458
00:28:53,079 --> 00:28:57,000
at because Butcher's talking to that nothing
there, right, so he could just

459
00:28:57,039 --> 00:29:03,559
be looking to be like, what
is Butcher doing? Yeah, I mean

460
00:29:03,599 --> 00:29:07,480
the guy he has, Jefferdine Morgan, hasn't interacted with anyone else, and

461
00:29:07,519 --> 00:29:10,839
the way he talks too. He
does talk to Butcher like, Oh,

462
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,160
that's classic Butcher like. And we
know that he's seeing his wife and he's

463
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:21,640
having conversations with his wife, so
this is absolutely not out of the Uh

464
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,920
yeah, and that last week thing
happened right when they're like what you know,

465
00:29:25,079 --> 00:29:27,599
they come like he's told them that
for some reason, like I ended

466
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,720
up dead and I don't know what
happened. They accuse him being back on

467
00:29:32,039 --> 00:29:34,240
you know, TENTHV and stuff.
We still got that answered, so I

468
00:29:34,279 --> 00:29:40,200
don't know. There is one scene
here where he says like, oh,

469
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,400
your football days are over, don't
you worry. We'll patch you up,

470
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,680
and then he looks up to uh, yeah, that's pretty Morgan, and

471
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,640
the guy does look up towards Jefferdine
Morgan's character. So, but again,

472
00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:52,640
is that just because Billy's looking at
nothing? You know? That's true?

473
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,480
Yeah, I did love that line. I was like, I hate to

474
00:29:55,519 --> 00:29:57,799
break it to you, but your
football days are probably over, but you

475
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:03,000
get to live, you know.
Carbon always continues to be fantastic in this

476
00:30:03,359 --> 00:30:07,559
series. So yeah, and they're
not done getting the virus either. I

477
00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:11,599
mean, they use the last of
it to save their save their asses but

478
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:17,599
uh, yeah, they're gonna try
and create some more. Yeah, have

479
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,519
we touched upon it. We got
Hue, we got Starlight, who's still

480
00:30:19,559 --> 00:30:22,279
kind of having a crisis with herself
of can she be and and can she

481
00:30:22,319 --> 00:30:26,680
be Starlight? What is she?
You know? You got sister Sage and

482
00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:32,039
Firecracker that looks like their relationships a
little topsy turvy now because Firecrackers pissed off

483
00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:36,279
that Sage basically let start like jump
on us as a decoy pretty much,

484
00:30:36,279 --> 00:30:37,160
she set her up to get beat
up. But then, like she said,

485
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,559
she's like, well, you actually
have something to cry about now.

486
00:30:40,599 --> 00:30:44,160
It's not like a fake outrage,
it's a real outrage. So that worked

487
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,119
out. I'm still waiting for that
Twitter theory that she's getting Firecracker to have

488
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,680
some uh some breastfeeding going on from
Homelander, so we'll see it happens there.

489
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,960
But yeah, Sage continues to be
a fun character. Watch her and

490
00:30:53,359 --> 00:30:57,599
her interact with everybody where. She
also shows some cards about the full story.

491
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:02,880
She'll heavily insinuate you're doing some bad
but doesn't have the exact proof yet.

492
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,519
But she's probably been figured out already
that a trian could be that because

493
00:31:04,559 --> 00:31:07,359
she's the smartest person in the world. So I really don't know, but

494
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,480
I continue like that dynamic. Mm
hmm, yeah, I agree. What

495
00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:15,039
do you think of the full trailer
with Will Ferrell? And I loved it

496
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,240
that that stuff's great, you know, it's uh it was great. The

497
00:31:18,279 --> 00:31:22,200
first episode was just on set.
I'm glad they got Will Ferrell for as

498
00:31:22,279 --> 00:31:26,559
much as they did on the soundstage
and uh no, it was that.

499
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:29,920
That was tons of fun. I
enjoyed that they did that. Yeah,

500
00:31:30,039 --> 00:31:37,000
is there anything else anybody we haven't
talked about? I don't think so.

501
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:41,519
I think we covered everything. Yeah, I think we did. I think

502
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:44,440
this one makes sense why it's a
bit shorter because not that you know,

503
00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:48,279
is filler, but lots of just
action and stuff going on here. Fun

504
00:31:48,319 --> 00:31:52,119
shot of a chicken from First Person
attacking Camiko, so you got that.

505
00:31:52,359 --> 00:31:56,599
But yeah, okay, Well,
then we'll be back next week for episode

506
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,759
six. Maybe it'll be some virus
stuff and some other more juicy stuff to

507
00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:02,079
talk about and see what goes on
until next time. You will not be

508
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:07,440
boring. Bye bye mhm.
