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got Georgia and Ohio State in one
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the other semifinal. So we're gonna
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Before we get to coach, We're
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and we're also going to talk to
Vince Ferrara from ninety nine point one

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s The Sports Animal in Knoxville,
Tennessee, concerning the USF hiring of head

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coach Alex Glesh, the Tennessee offensive
coordinator under Josh Hypel takes over the USF

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program. So we're gonna have a
good, in depth talk about coach Glesh

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and his philosophies and all that kind
of good stuff as he comes to Tampa

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to take over the struggling USF program. Other news around the state, yet

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FAU hired Tom Herman, the former
Texas coach, to be their new head

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coach. They let go to Willie
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There is some speculation that Willie Taggart
might be involved with Dion Sanders's staff out

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at Colorado since as he as he
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So we'll stay tuned on that.
You know, there's some transfer portal news

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that there's transfer portal has opened up
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state of Florida involved in that.
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involved or have entered the transfer portal. Numerous guys out of Florida have entered

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the transfer portal. You will probably
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trickle into the portal here as he
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Transfer Portal news to come here in
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kids enter the portal and then commit
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some updates for you as we move
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of the Florida Football Insiders podcast.
We remember we're part of the College Gridiron

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Coast to Coast podcast network. We'll
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the college football Playoffs semifinals. So
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we will release another episode previewing the
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and such, and I'm sure there
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and will have Coach Levin on one
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as well, and we'll have some
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semifinal matchup. So we're going to
take a couple of weeks off after this

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episode concludes for the Christmas holidays,
but again we will have another episode coming

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out between Christmas and New Year's because
remember the college football playoffs are on New

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Year's Eve on the thirty first,
so there'll be plenty of bowl games throughout.

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I know Florida and Florida State will
play. Florida plays in mid December,

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I believe, and I'll die of
the double check when Florida State plays

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their bowl game. It's probably closer
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the middle of December. But I
just want to give a shout out to

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Steve Carney again one more time.
He's kind of been our quarterback here of

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the podcast network that we're part of. Thanks for all the hard work with

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Steve putting together the podcast and getting
them posted every week. So thank you

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Steve again. Shout out to coach
Levitt for being such a tremendous guest for

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us and for you the audience.
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some inside knowledge and some more details
of what it's like to be a head

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different things that go into being a
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you're gonna get one more great episode
with coach level. We're gonna have a

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good We had a rate chat and
then you're gonna hear from Vince Ferrara ninety

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nine point one in Knoxville about Alex
galesh new head coach of the USF Bowl.

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Welcome back coaching the Kicker Segment Coach
Jim Levitts. We have wrapped up

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championship. We finally know who's in
the playoff. It's Georgia one, Michigan

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two, TCU three, even after
losing a heartbreaker and overtime, and number

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four Ohio State slips in the back
door thanks to USC going down on Friday

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night in Las Vegas. Coach,
welcome back. It could be back,

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Boris. It's uh, is this
our last last one? Well, we're

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gonna do one more before the playoff. I mean you're I'm gonna give you

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a couple of weeks off and we're
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All right, But yes, you've
been awesome this year been It's been a

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real pleasure getting on and again you've
you've provided such great insight on all the

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different aspects of coaching in the college
football world. All right, let's get

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right, I get all the Colorado
stuff, fun, the honor d On

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I was gonna say, you're not
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going out to Boulder now with d
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You know, we won ten games. They're the one yards there years the

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one first year we only won four, then we won ten and that's where

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I won. Of the season they've
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swears they're gonna win out there.
He'll he'll bring some juice out there though

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with some He'll get some kids and
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Yeah, it would be fun see
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to the playoffs. Any any just
overbearing thoughts on obviously the dramatic game in

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Dallas with TCU. In Kansas State
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was a live team last week.
You really liked what you saw at of

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Kansas State. TCU goold, come
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line and overtime on the one yard
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it kicks the game winning field goal. And then obviously USC and Utah

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Friday night, Uh, you know, Utah just the we again. We

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talked about Utah. The greedy,
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USC. You know, Utah's interesting
program because in some ways I'm not so

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sure they're not one of the top
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the USC twice, right, I

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mean that's pretty good. And they
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you talk was a better team and
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I blake, and you know Oregon
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So you talk, you taught a
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you know it's um. You know
Ohio State. I think a lot

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of people kind of joy seeing them
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know, they they just dominated everybody
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they lost to Michigan. Michigan did
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it's gonna be interesting now House Safe
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Safe people are excited, and you
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it's of you. You know,
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and his staff have done there this
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know, and they were so explosive, uh offensively and they've played um good

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enough defense to get him there.
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seem like the team certainly to be
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so I don't know it's gonna be
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and we'll talk, like I said, we'll have one more uh coaching the

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kicker sitting in here in a couple
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We'll really get into the coach and
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of each of these matchups. For
the for the playoff games here in a

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couple of weeks, talk about,
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would you know, questioning should Ohio
Steak getting should Alabama get in? Now?

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Obviously heard Nick Saban. Over the
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points on the last play of the
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getting blown out at home. Any
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I think Saban's got uh, he's
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he's head coach that program. Yeah, and I'm not so sure that

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Alabama is not one of the shouldn't
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you just you can't. You can't
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you know, and Tennessee was one
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just gonna be hard. It would
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you know, I could see people
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sure that they're not right, and
that's why people want to expand it from

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Florida, you know, just six
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are you excited that it got expanded
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agreement last week those Bowl to go
to twelve. A you're excited? You

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like twelve as a number? Oh, I don't know. You know,

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I haven't thought a lot about it. You know, it's just you know,

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more money, more TV, you
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helps. You know. I'm such
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liked it when they all the Bowl
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name it, know, team that
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and that seemed to work forever until
they changed it. And so I know

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people would probably criticize me because they
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the Division two, Division three had
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they're probably going more towards that format. Uh So, you know, it's

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one thing, yeah, one one
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heard anybody talk about that a playoff
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games seventeen games you could potentially have
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were the twelve seed and let's say
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That's that's thirteen games right there.
Four more games in the playoffs.

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Are these kids gonna Do you think
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bit of a stipe in each playoff
round they go to Financially with as much

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money that's going into these games from
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talk about do you pay these kids
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every team that makes it? What
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know, college football has changed so
much, and I'm not so sure for

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the better, you know, personally, it's just it's just different, and

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there's so many variables out there and
things to talk about. It's it's difficult,

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you know. The TV. Yeah, they're making all this money,

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and I certainly see the argument for
papal arms, I really do um And

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but you know, we we've we've
missed the boat somewhere, you know,

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the nil the transfer portal. I
don't like it at all. I think

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it's much and I don't think it's
a good thing for college football. I

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think it's a very bad thing and
uh um, you know, I think

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it's sad. To be honest with
you, the direction of college football is

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going. Uh you know, it's
you know, it's supposed to be an

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amateur athlete. The education meant so
much. I remember when I got a

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scholarship University of Missouri, and I
thought that was the greatest thing in the

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world. But times change, TV
market is different, everything's different. But

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it's I think it's gotten to be
out of control and I don't I don't

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like it, you know personally.
Now you know how many games to the

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Division two and Division three? Uh
you know it used to be all one

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double a's right games A play?
How to uh you know they do?

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well they can't. I don't know
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much. Yes, you know,
you know when when I was in the

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NFL, we went to the NFC
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Super Bowl once. You know,
it was twenty three or twenty four games.

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As a lot of football bros.
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don't have school that it's different and
it's a long season for them. Of

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course, your top don't play those
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but it was, it was.
It was a lot of football, it

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is. That's a lot of balls, a lot of a lot of ball,

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for sure. All right, let's
let's um, you know, let's

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transition to some of the coaching hires. Over the weekend. Several jobs got

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filled. We have some breaking news
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in a second. FAU fills their
job. Willie Taggert let go, Tom

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Herman, the former Texas coach,
brought in us Let's obviously Jeff Scott was

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let go several weeks ago. Alex
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Tennessee with Josh hypel Is brought in
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hires Dion Sanders. Liberty hires Jamie
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Liberty to Liberty to fill the job
where Hugh Freeze left. And then breaking

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news on Monday morning, the Louisville
coach, somebody I know, you know,

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Scott Satterfield leaves Louisville to go to
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which is kind of a you know
in that part of the world that that'll

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get a lot of attention. So
any of those names strike you as somebody

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that you really think is gonna do
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and it was interesting Louisville when I
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coach before we were supposed to play
Virginia and in the bowl game, they're

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in uh, you know in Ah, I guess Yankee Stadium up there.

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him and I've always watched him,
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State, we ended up beating them
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him. I think he's very good
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um the motivation and why he's doing
whether it was kind of just time to

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leave Louisville and a lot of pressure, and I don't know, but I

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think he's really good coach. The
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really know him. Uh. Tennessee's
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So you know, you just don't
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know till you know after they play
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it's it's certainly not about the press
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be. Uh, it's it's a
body of work, and we won't know

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how good these moves are till you
know years later. I mean, Jeff

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Scott took the job at South Florida, I'm sure to feel pretty excited coming

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from Clemson co offensive coordinator from Florida. A great guy. Um dad was

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was a you know, had lots
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the program was down and you know, struggled. So you know, in

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time you may may be a great
hug. You just don't know, it

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may not be. And there's so
many other things that are involved. Um,

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you know. So the Liberty,
I don't know, he's done a

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great job at Coastal Carolina. I
don't really know him. Yeah, Oh

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he's done. They've done great there, so uh you know Liberty. It's

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interesting Liberty's gotten some pop some money
into that program, man, and they're

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paying their coach and they are pumping
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four million a year. They're talking
about paying him. That's a lot of

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money. Uh So it's it's um, you just don't know. You know,

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you've fres going to Auburn. I
think that's I think you Freeze a

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heck of a coach. I think
he does a great job. You know,

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people are gonna get involved in all
the different off field things. But

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you know, Hugh Freeze and I
met, you know about the old miss

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defensive coordinator job, and you know
Hugh Freeze. Um, you know,

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I was set to go there,
and then I interviewed for the head job

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at Kansas State and that kind of
and then I ended up going to going

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to Oregon. So it was crazy. They obviously hired a really good guy

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at Kansas State. What's the first
order of business when you take a new

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job like this head coaching job.
I don't care if it's in a big

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school, little school, whatever.
What is the first couple of days?

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Well, I mean obviously you probably
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that stuff. What is the first
I mean, when you get there,

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you don't have a place to live, I mean, do you find what

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are you trying to find a place
to live? What's the first day or

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two like at a new job of
actually doing work, and what are you

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doing. Well, if I'm going
it's a job, I'm gonna find my

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quarterbacks good, I'm gonna go find
him right away. And I think you

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gotta get your players immediately, like
right away, and you guys started having

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meetings with your players. You're gonna
have uh, you know, you're gonna

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multitask. You're gonna have a lot
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You gotta hire staff, you gotta
get recruiting, you got the transfer

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portal involved, You've got you've got
a million things going on at one time,

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and you gotta go handle all of
it at the same time. You

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know. So, but you better
see your players, and you better get

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one on one with your players.
You know, you can have that team

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meeting, and then you better start
setting up a schedule with with you know,

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your assistant. You better start putting
a schedule there to meet with your

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players one on one. So when
you're hiring a staff, obviously on the

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day you hire, you get the
I mean there's some of these jobs you

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may not. I mean a guy
like Alex Kleshman, I'd have known he

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was getting the job. Bill Saturday
nine who knows you already got you already

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have that list together of guys you're
gonna call before Saturday. This these couple

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guys in every position, How do
you As far as putting together staff,

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that can't be a one phone call
and it's done. It probably takes some

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time to put put together a ten
or fifteen person staff, right, yeah,

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it will, it will. It's
like could be easy, you know,

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because the most important things you better
get a great strength coaches best number

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one, right, you're good in
that area. And then your coordinators.

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You know, you got to get
those because a lot of times coordinators are

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gonna want to bring their own people
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So you'll lean on your coordinators quite
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strengths because the players off final exams, they'll go home, but they'll come

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back and done and and started hitting
the weight run. You know. So

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you want to get you want to
get that that position. You want to

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make sure that position is really good, you know, it just it just

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takes time. You're gonna do it, and and you don't have time,

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you know. So when it comes
to recruiting lists and stuff like that,

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does the does the place you're going
to do they provide you that information or

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is that something you gotta bring with
you. I mean, you're going from

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like Dion Sanders, from Mississippi to
Colorado. You're not gonnasily know all the

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kids out west? Where do you
get that information from? If you're a

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guy like Deon Sanders, well,
you're gonna lean on the recruiting coordinator that

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was there, you know a little
bit. But if they're gone here you've

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already been recruiting at Jackson State,
You're certainly going to recruit different guys right

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about the people you know? You
know? I mean you you know he

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Dion probably has this staff all set
maybe you know, and and those guys

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will just start working it. They
got to get into La. They know

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they're in the Pac twelve. They've
got to get out there. And they

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got to go to Texas because they've
been going to Texas quite a bit because

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it's about eight hour drive from Dallas
to to Boulder, Okay, So you

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know they'll probably work that angle.
But Dean's gonna work National. You'll work

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all the transfer portal. But then
you gotta evaluateate your team. You gotta

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evaluate for what your scheme are offensively
defensively, and you've got to look at

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the players you have and that that
takes time though, right, that just

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takes time and watching film, right
right, Yeah, you gotta do it.

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You're not gonna sleep, You're just
not you know, you're gonna get

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three four hours of sleep at night, that's it. But you're so excited

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about the job that you don't need
any more than four hours a night,

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and you're just gonna crank it out, you know. You know in the

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nighttime, after ten eleven at night, you can do a lot of work

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till two or three in the morning, you know, do a lot of

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that film work and evaluate, you
know, and you'll talk to the coaches

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that are there. You know,
they all want to stay on, they

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want a job. They're gonna give
you as much information as they can.

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But it's it's, uh, you
know, you're so excited about the job.

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You know, you're excited about being
hired. So you're just going on

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adrenaline and you just you just do
the best you can. But you gotta

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see your players. Got to hold
off players and going to transfer bort at

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least two or three for that.
You really want to keep and do the

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best job you can there. You
know, So when you when you're going

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to hire a staff, does the
athletics director does he tell you, hey,

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coach, you got X number of
dollars in total to hire your assistant?

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Or does he does he give you
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How does? How does kind of
nego? Because you know, obviously these

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guys all want to make as much
money as they can as assistance. But

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do you tell the assistant, hey, coach, I got I got X

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number of dollars to pay you as
the running backs coach, I got I

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could pay you. Is that?
Is that determined by the athletics director or

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do you have any wiggle room in
that as the head coach? The athletic

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director is gonna tell your this is
done before you're hired. Okay, what

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you're sarry pool is if you don't, he won't care how you're gonna dib

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you it up? Okay? Or
should he? You know, but he's

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gonna say, hey, here's here's
the pool of money that you have.

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Work with it, you know.
I mean that was when I interviewed for

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a number of different jobs Alabama or
UH Kansas State or Texas Tech or Klas

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State, those that was told me
what the pool money was going to be.

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Okay, you know, you know, so that was that was all

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there. You know, so you
knew going in what you were going to

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have. And then you know you're
right if you if you if you're you

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need a little bit more, maybe
one hundred thousand more here or there.

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You feel like this this guy is
that good? You go to your A

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D and work it out. Find
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How fast that these new places?
Will the staff all be in whatever city

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there? And are they all there? If the guy gets hired, you

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know, if the coach gets hired
Saturday, are they are they there by

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the end of this week? Everybody's
gonna be in in that new city.

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How does that work? Well,
if he's hired saterity, he might be

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there Saturday night. You'll go fast. You know. He's like most of

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these guys getting these head jobs,
they've heard a gout relationships. They already

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know who they probably want to hire. Okay, and and you know for

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about four or five six physicians,
they're they're they're already set. And sometimes

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you will there are sometimes you want
assistant coach and that courtinator may not want

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that assistant coach, but you're gonna
hire them because that's who you want.

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And um for recruiting or for whatever
purposes you want. And huh, you're

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you're moving fast, really fast,
you know. I mean, it's it's

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and you know what's gonna happen.
Also, some of these heading coaches are

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gonna hire somebody and they're gonna and
they're gonna be there and then they're gonna

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go to another job in like three
weeks a better opportunity, Like the guy

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that just got hires South Florida.
You may hire a staff and they might

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end up at US Sincenati, right, they end up at Colorado in a

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number of weeks. That's and that's
not unrealistic. That's happened. That was

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happening a number of times. No, we don't ever hear about We hear

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about all the head coach and stuff
in the media. We don't hear about

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these about the running back coach and
the special team's coordinators and I like that

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and jumping ship and all that kind
of good stuff. That's just part of

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that business, as you well know. Yeah, um, all right,

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I want to hit you a couple
of things before we let you go Army

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Navy this week? What what what
a trip? What rivalry? What a

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game just for the country and for
those kids. Just talk about the spectacle

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that is an Army Navy game.
Well, I'd really like to go to

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this this game sometimes in my life. I really would. Um, I

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can't imagine more fun game to go
to. And uh this year, boy,

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I don't know where the line is
on this game because Army has had

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struggled, but then they've won some
other big games. Navy struggled early,

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but then look at some of the
teams they beat. This game. I

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think it's gonna go down to the
wire, and I don't I would It's

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a flip of the coin. He's
gonna win this one those pageantry rivalry games.

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It doesn't matter what the records are. You know, most years the

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game is very competitive. I mean
most years it's a one score game,

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going to the fourth quarter kind of
game game. And just the pageantry of

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the game, of all the tradition
and all the kids that are in the

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stadium, all the military paraphernalia.
Obviously we all know people that have got

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military background. Just I'm with you. I think that's a bucket list.

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I'd like to take my dad to
that game one of these years. And

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uh, you know, whether it's
Philadelphia or I know they rotate the location

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where they play, but it's typically
in the Northeast. But just what a

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pageantry game. Have you ever been
in a military kind of game like that?

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00:28:26,279 --> 00:28:30,079
Well? No, I mean we
played Army and maybe you know I've

407
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:36,039
done that a few times, so
you know I've I've faced the Air Force

408
00:28:36,079 --> 00:28:37,359
at Colorado. When you were at
Colorado, you guys play air Force?

409
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,960
Oh we never I've never lined up
against Airforce. Okay, they're all that

410
00:28:42,119 --> 00:28:47,119
offense. You know. When I
was at SMU when I was interim head

411
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:52,079
coach, the decision was between Virginia
and air Force, two of the most

412
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,359
prolific offenses in the country last year, I didn't know who I'd rather go

413
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:02,640
up against. There was there neither
there both both the challenge so but never

414
00:29:02,759 --> 00:29:04,160
never lined up against their force.
I really liked their head coach. I

415
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,160
think he's a really good guy,
knowing him for a long time and done

416
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,839
a great job there. All right, Heisman Trophy, they're going to announce

417
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,400
that in a couple of weeks.
Here probably a couple of names. You

418
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,480
got the kid from USC Caleb Williams, you got the kid from You got

419
00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:22,680
the kid from TCU, Dougging,
you got c. J. Stroup potentially

420
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,559
from Ohio State. Who do you
like in the Heisman Trophy? I don't

421
00:29:26,599 --> 00:29:30,240
know. I haven't followed it like
that. You know, with specific players,

422
00:29:30,119 --> 00:29:34,599
you know who's done the best for
their team. You gotta look at

423
00:29:36,039 --> 00:29:38,799
quarterback. I know Duggins. I
mean, you look at TCU. I

424
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,960
mean, Dougas wasn't even really the
starter at the beginning of the year.

425
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:47,720
They had kind of going back and
forth, and then Douggan's got in there.

426
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,240
I don't know if the other guy
got hurt or what happened, but

427
00:29:49,359 --> 00:29:55,079
Duggants got in there and then just
took over the quarterback at USC is.

428
00:29:56,799 --> 00:30:00,359
He is unbelievable. He is a
great alb and uh but they all are.

429
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,920
You know who has done the most, impacted the team the most,

430
00:30:07,079 --> 00:30:11,920
probably USC guy because they got no
defense out there. Yeah, but look

431
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,759
at Tcuhan It's true. I don't
know. I don't know, because you

432
00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:19,279
know, nobody expect to TCU be
in a final four. That's right,

433
00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:25,839
They're They're not USC so that's right. And then he had the kid from

434
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,240
Michigan who hurt his knee or he
would have been there a quorum, the

435
00:30:27,359 --> 00:30:33,839
running back who had an unbelievable year
from Michigan. Yeah, it's you know,

436
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,200
I don't know, boy, I
don't know. I don't I don't

437
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:41,839
know this year, who's gonna be
That's good question? All right, last

438
00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:45,359
thing I'll get you out of here. Talk about the momentum of a big

439
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,480
winning like a team like Kansas State. What is this momentum of a huge,

440
00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:52,680
big, twelveth championship in a you
know, year that you weren't supposed

441
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,200
to win? It a lot to
be why other people winning it? How

442
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,039
does that momentum go give you such
a bounce into the offseason, both just

443
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,640
from your own program and recruiting.
How to talk about how how that being

444
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,119
on the national spotlight of beating a
team like TCU for a conference title is

445
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,839
such a boom to your program?
Well, you know, I don't even

446
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,519
I think how do I put this
in the right way? You know,

447
00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:19,160
one of your goals is to win
the conference. So have you've established that?

448
00:31:19,359 --> 00:31:26,440
So whether it is momentum for the
future or helps your recruiting or makes

449
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:33,640
everybody whatever. I mean, the
moment in itself is is what you're what

450
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,400
you you know what you're you're coaching, and you're working your winter conditioning and

451
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,759
your spring ball and summer workouts and
for years and years and years for that

452
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:47,599
one moment, you know, and
you take that in as long as you

453
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:53,720
can, you know, because the
next day's recruiting. It's the props starting

454
00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:59,799
all over again, you know.
Uh, And it's just that moment.

455
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,200
It's just like when we know it's
not the same. I know, when

456
00:32:02,319 --> 00:32:06,720
you want a conference champions like that, that's a big tea on the way

457
00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:09,240
they want it. Yeah, yes, it's gonna be great for him.

458
00:32:09,319 --> 00:32:13,480
But my point is this, Like
we beat West Virginia that one Friday night,

459
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,279
I'll never get walking back out in
the field with the police officers,

460
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:21,240
the guys that were already hanging out
with me. And I told him,

461
00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:23,279
I said, you know, I
always like walking out in this field right

462
00:32:23,359 --> 00:32:30,359
now after everything's you know, everybody's
picking up a little calm just for the

463
00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:35,279
moment. I said, just to
pause right now, to take this in

464
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,440
because when we leave this field right
now and I'm talking to those those guys,

465
00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:44,599
I said, then it's onto the
next game, onto the next recruit,

466
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:49,039
onto the next whatever. And for
Kansas State, when you win a

467
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:53,559
conference championship is different because it's you
know, the you know what you're trying

468
00:32:53,599 --> 00:32:59,000
to get done. It's the epitome
of everything. You know, it's you

469
00:32:59,119 --> 00:33:04,960
know, so sure it's gonna help. It's it's gonna help everybody because that's

470
00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:07,200
such a huge goal for you,
you know. And on the flip side,

471
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,799
what about the fuel of a huge
loss a team like USC that knows

472
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,400
they would have been in the playoff. You're no longer in the playoffs because

473
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:20,960
you lose the conference title game.
From the players perspective and the coaching perspective,

474
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,599
obviously, the coaches are always gonna
that's gonna be a new thing.

475
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,799
Oh, we gotta get better on
defense and all that. I get it.

476
00:33:25,119 --> 00:33:29,960
But just the emotional, like you
said, the emotional letdown of damn,

477
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,480
we were one. You know,
we're one half of a way or

478
00:33:31,559 --> 00:33:35,640
one bad quarter away from being in
the college football playoff to win a national

479
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,160
title. Yeah, it's it's hard. It's it's it's hard. You never

480
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,480
get over those games when you lose. And that was part of the thing

481
00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:51,279
I told the team, Um,
you know when I was, when I

482
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:52,720
was, when I was in South
Florida or other places, I used to

483
00:33:52,759 --> 00:33:55,279
tell players this whole the time.
I said, what's gonna get me out

484
00:33:55,319 --> 00:33:59,519
of coaching? As losses? I
cannot know. I don't know how to

485
00:33:59,559 --> 00:34:02,319
deal with them. I have a
hard time of losses. And because it's

486
00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:07,160
just because I always felt like it
was my fault, right. I never

487
00:34:07,279 --> 00:34:10,159
felt like it was the offensive coordinator
or defense coordinator or any assistant coaches.

488
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:14,440
I never felt like it was the
players. I always felt like it was

489
00:34:14,559 --> 00:34:19,159
me. And to take that on
yourself is hard. And you know,

490
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,719
fortunately we didn't. We won a
lot more games and we lost and it's

491
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:30,320
been throughout my career. But losses
are so devastating and so difficult. It's

492
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,880
really really it's a real it was
a real challenge for me to get over

493
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,320
losses, which it's really really hard. So, um, you know they'll

494
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:43,119
bounce back, you know. Every
day that happens is you know, you

495
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,800
breathe a little bit better, and
they don't have time. You know,

496
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:52,039
they got a bowl game, it
gets a really good team. You know,

497
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,800
you embrace that you've had a great
season. You lost to one team

498
00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:00,039
twice. Yeah, but you had
a great season, and you know,

499
00:35:00,159 --> 00:35:04,960
you try to try to talk about
the positives and every way you can.

500
00:35:05,679 --> 00:35:10,760
You know, you certainly don't want
to show your sadness or depression the people.

501
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,400
You know, Um, you had
a great season, a great year,

502
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:22,440
you know, and you know,
onto recruiting, be positive. Now

503
00:35:22,519 --> 00:35:24,360
for the four teams that are still
playing, you're gonna give them this week

504
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:29,400
off pretty much. Let them recruit, recover, let them get their obviously,

505
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,920
most of those kids got final exams
coming to the next probably week,

506
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,800
week and a half to get out
of school. You're gonna let You're gonna

507
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,639
let that this next nine or ten
days. Really let light on the football

508
00:35:37,679 --> 00:35:42,079
and let them take care of their
academics and all in recovery. Yeah,

509
00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:45,039
absolutely, I tell him get away
from football, you know, do everything

510
00:35:45,079 --> 00:35:50,519
but football. You know, goes. See your families get your fire exams

511
00:35:50,559 --> 00:35:53,280
done, you know, see your
families get some to take some time off.

512
00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:55,360
I wouldn't you want them in to
wait fro them, be honest,

513
00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,960
right, want to, but I
I'd let your stramp coaches get away too,

514
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,440
you know. Right now, of
course you got recruiting, so you

515
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,119
know you're gonna keep them around.
But um, absolutely, because it's it's

516
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:14,719
it's the timing on building for these
these these games are are big and you're

517
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,400
preparing to win it all, so
you're not talking about one game but two.

518
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:23,400
So yeah, absolutely, Well,
coach, great job. I know

519
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,840
you're you're heading. You're heading to
Monday Night football on Monday Night the Bucks

520
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,719
in the Saints. I'll be there. Yep, yep. It should be

521
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:35,480
a good atmosphere in Raymond James Stadium. Appreciate the time. We will,

522
00:36:35,639 --> 00:36:37,920
Like I said, uh fans,
we will have coach back the week of

523
00:36:38,039 --> 00:36:42,920
the championship of the semi final games, which I believe is right before New

524
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,400
Year. So we'll have one more
episode Coaching the Kickers part of the Florida

525
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:51,360
Football Insiders podcasts. That week of
we'll do a little break We'll do a

526
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,440
little XS and O's breakdown of each
game, maybe a couple of the big

527
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:58,119
Bowl games and all that such.
But but coach, great work. When

528
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,679
I'm giving you a couple of weeks
off, now you can go recover.

529
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:06,840
You can got no no recruiting now, no recruiting. I don't want you

530
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,320
on the recruiting trail I was at. I was Friday night. I'll tell

531
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:15,039
you this. I was refereeing Friday
at the state semifinal in Venice. It

532
00:37:15,199 --> 00:37:20,880
was Venice High School, which I
know, you know, against Gainesville Buckholtz,

533
00:37:21,519 --> 00:37:23,320
and there were some there were a
lot of coaches on the sidelines.

534
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:28,800
I saw Ohio State coach there recruiting. So, I mean, you're what

535
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,320
you say is right on, man. These guys are always recruiting. Um.

536
00:37:31,639 --> 00:37:35,239
So I was fortunate enough to referee
the game. It was a great

537
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,159
game, forty two thirty five.
Venice wins, great game. Venice goes

538
00:37:39,199 --> 00:37:43,480
to the state championship coming up in
a week or so. But your your

539
00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:45,440
point is well taken. These guys
don't ever really take much time off.

540
00:37:45,519 --> 00:37:50,239
These coaches. They're freaking A guy
from the Ohio State coach was right there

541
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,760
on the sidelines in Venice floor to
Friday night. Yeah, oh, no

542
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,159
doubt. You know. I used
to as a head coach, I used

543
00:37:55,199 --> 00:38:00,599
to give them a week off after
signed date in Fibruary because you don't have

544
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,599
time. You got to grind right
through Christmas. And it's just the way

545
00:38:04,599 --> 00:38:06,639
it is. Now they've changing your
calendar a little bit, so they do

546
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,719
give us a little bit more time
and Christmas. But you know, yeah,

547
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:15,119
it's it's on, It is on
for sure. We'll enjoy the Bucks

548
00:38:15,159 --> 00:38:17,000
win. Let's get the Bucks to
the finish line Monday night with Old Tom.

549
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,199
We want we want you to get
some playoff tickets. Man, we

550
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,440
gotta win the game to get to
wrap up the South here. That's right,

551
00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:27,199
all right, have a great week. We'll talk in a couple of

552
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,079
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All right, come back Florida Football
Insiders podcast. Everybody wants to know who

572
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,239
is Alex Golish, the new coach
at the University of South Florida. Everybody

573
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:12,199
and nobody really knew who he was
when he was hired. Kind of a

574
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:16,000
surprise name that was announced on Saturday
Night. A lot of people thought Dion

575
00:40:16,159 --> 00:40:21,239
Sanders a lot of people thought maybe
a couple other names that were in the

576
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:27,960
mix, but no. Alex Golish, the offensive co offensive coordinator at the

577
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,559
University of Tennessee, is hired to
replace Jeff Scott. Kind of a similar

578
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:36,880
boat as Jeff Scott comes in with
a lot of offensive pedigree coming from the

579
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,679
Josh hypeol system. Was been with
Josh for a couple of years now,

580
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,679
one year at UCF than two years
at Tennessee. And no better person to

581
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,360
talk about all things Alex Golesh who's
covered him for two years in Knoxville.

582
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:52,679
He's at University of South Florida graduate, so I know he has some vested

583
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,559
interests in this higher as well.
Vince ferrar a ninety nine point one,

584
00:40:55,639 --> 00:41:00,199
the sports animal in Knoxville, he's
covered him for two years. Talk to

585
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,639
him. I'm sure a bunch we're
gonna talk to to Vince about all the

586
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,519
things about Alex Golish to getting the
job here at USF. So welcome back,

587
00:41:07,639 --> 00:41:12,480
Vince Man. Great to be whether
Jason as always. Yeah, all

588
00:41:12,519 --> 00:41:15,840
right, let's let's get right to
it. Co offensive coordinator. I know,

589
00:41:15,159 --> 00:41:17,800
I know you've told me and you've
been on this podcast several times,

590
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:22,920
talking about the access that Hypel's allowed
the coordinators to talk to the media over

591
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,039
the years. Just talk about his
media presence, talking to you guys in

592
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:30,679
the media. How is Alex done
handling the media and just interaction you guys

593
00:41:30,679 --> 00:41:34,639
have had the last couple of years. Yeah, you're absolutely right. Well,

594
00:41:34,679 --> 00:41:37,400
you've had a chance to talk to
him even during the season that they

595
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:44,239
would make in a rotating assistance,
two of them available on game weeks and

596
00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:49,360
he was in a Heman DC Tim
Banksman a regular rotation. So I'd say

597
00:41:50,079 --> 00:41:52,880
we've talked to him, gosh,
since he's been here, you know,

598
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:59,840
fifteen twenty different times, which is
which is cool. He is he's a

599
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:06,920
different personality. He's very thoughtful in
his answers. He is very energetic.

600
00:42:07,639 --> 00:42:14,559
He's one that I think thinks through
everything. But he'll give you some honest

601
00:42:14,679 --> 00:42:17,440
answers. Also like if a guy
it's like, look, you know,

602
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:23,480
just needs to mature some for example, things like that. Or we think

603
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:30,960
our standard here at Tennessee is we
expect to be the number one offense in

604
00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:36,000
the country. And he said that
earlier before the season ever started, or

605
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:38,880
maybe very early in September and that's
what ended up happening. For a good

606
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:43,000
part of the year they had the
number one offense. So he'll give you

607
00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:45,280
some stuff. He's not just all
coach speak. He's a you know,

608
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:52,920
young, younger guy at thirty eight. So there's not the long list of

609
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:58,280
NFL guys his coach I think going
into this upcoming draft, I think it's

610
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,440
five guys, including Velis Jones,
who's who's a rookie in the NFL some

611
00:43:02,599 --> 00:43:07,199
of those guys. But I think
he's impressive. To me, he comes

612
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:15,519
with a little bit more overall juice
than what Jeff Scott did. I still

613
00:43:15,559 --> 00:43:19,119
expected more from Jeff Scott at USF, honestly, I think a lot of

614
00:43:19,159 --> 00:43:25,039
people did. But I think Alex
Golish, with how great the offenses have

615
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:30,519
been that he's been a part of, I think he's an excellent hire.

616
00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:37,440
He knows what has worked under Josh
Hypel at his two stops, And the

617
00:43:37,559 --> 00:43:45,440
big thing for USF is he's a
relentless competitor and recruiter. I think USF

618
00:43:45,639 --> 00:43:50,000
needs both of those things. What
position, what's his position specialty as far

619
00:43:50,039 --> 00:43:52,280
as before you know what what if
he coached or kind of grown up in

620
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:57,519
the business. Coaching tight ends is
what he has done. That's his baby.

621
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,480
Now, they have not had an
elite athlete. They haven't had any

622
00:44:01,599 --> 00:44:07,840
brock Bowers or Washington or any of
those kind of talents there, but they've

623
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:12,760
improved their tight ends that they've had
there under him. It's been Jacob Warren

624
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:17,119
and Princeton Fan guys that he inherited, and other than that, they've had

625
00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:22,960
a couple of freshmen either depart or
just now hit the transfer Portally, they

626
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,400
haven't had that elite athlete. Now
they do in this upcoming signing class,

627
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:30,639
but they haven't had it yet,
so we really haven't seen him utilize the

628
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:36,320
position that he coaches to the maximum
of what they'd like to. They'd like

629
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:42,119
to have stud tight ends to where
they can use both guys at the same

630
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:49,960
time and not be a personnel a
specific and based on who they have and

631
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:57,679
just really have multiple threats on the
field at the same time. So expect

632
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,599
that to be addressed in recruiting.
When we see them on the practice field,

633
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:07,760
which was before the season and in
the spring. He's so detail oriented

634
00:45:07,079 --> 00:45:12,719
and the way he coaches guys,
he will compliment them, but he will

635
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:19,320
get after them as well when we
when we're in the press box and there's

636
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,719
some angst, let's say, coming
from the press box to the coach's box,

637
00:45:23,079 --> 00:45:27,880
a lot of times is Alex Golish. So he that's another thing,

638
00:45:28,039 --> 00:45:30,599
is he's been in the press boxes. There will be a different deal for

639
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:37,400
him to be on the sideline.
So he's a really high energy, super

640
00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:44,880
detailed guy that has focused on the
tight ends, but he's been involved in

641
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:51,880
the game planning and play calling as
well, even though Hypel has handled the

642
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,400
day to day stuff. That was
gonna be my next question, is he

643
00:45:53,639 --> 00:45:59,119
here a lot of these coaches,
whether it's NFL College, Hypel, Sarkisi

644
00:45:59,199 --> 00:46:01,920
and guys like Andy Read the NFL, they've got a coordinator that's got a

645
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:07,920
title, was Alex Golish calling plays
And that's you know, obviously you got

646
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:12,400
the title as those ce But what's
he given the opportunity to call plays periodically

647
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,960
throughout the year. What was kind
of that relationship of who called the plays

648
00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:21,360
with this high prolific offense. Well, he was involved, but I mean

649
00:46:21,519 --> 00:46:27,559
clearly you can see Hypol call him
in the plays and you know, covering

650
00:46:27,679 --> 00:46:30,679
up and things like that. So
I think Alex Golis was involved. I

651
00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:36,280
think there's times where Alex Golish would
say, hey, look we need to

652
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,719
do this, let's do this,
and maybe Josh was the one to execute

653
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:45,760
it. I think it was a
shared deal in the game planning also,

654
00:46:45,519 --> 00:46:51,880
and frankly, quarterbacks coach Joey Halseley
was probably the lead candidate to be the

655
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:57,079
new OC to take his place.
They were all involved in all those things

656
00:46:57,159 --> 00:47:01,199
and would contribute input. But and
it's it's it's weird. It was never

657
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:10,239
really truly answered by anyone. But
in the preseason his bio Josh Hype not

658
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:15,519
Josh Appele. Alex Golis's bio changed
and somebody found it to where it said

659
00:47:15,519 --> 00:47:19,000
he's a play caller, and everybody's
like, wait, how is that?

660
00:47:19,639 --> 00:47:23,480
How was he the play caller?
But I think it was a strategic move

661
00:47:23,639 --> 00:47:30,679
to help him in terms of getting
a future head coaching job. And so

662
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:35,880
there there's some technicality to where yeah, he was involved in calling plays,

663
00:47:36,079 --> 00:47:38,679
but I don't think that was a
down end, down out thing. I

664
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:44,599
do think it was hypel his offense
and then kind of some shared duties to

665
00:47:44,679 --> 00:47:49,039
where you could technically say he did
contribute in that area. Do you expect

666
00:47:49,159 --> 00:47:52,800
him to bring this exact Saint Tennessee
offense? You know, fans, if

667
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,440
you don't, if you didn't watch
about Tennessee this year. A different offensive

668
00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:00,199
formational thing that most people don't run
a lot of wide receivers, really wide

669
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:04,800
splits with the wide receivers opening up
the middle of that field for the runners

670
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,519
in the short passing game. Do
you anticipate in bringing that same exact system

671
00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:10,960
of USF I do? And there's
a lot of aspects to it. You

672
00:48:12,039 --> 00:48:15,119
hit on some of the key ones, Jason. The wide splits of the

673
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:21,960
receivers, forcing teams to have to
cover sideline the sideline, which puts you

674
00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:27,360
in conflict in where you're gonna go
if you're in zone coverage. It also

675
00:48:27,559 --> 00:48:35,119
forces teams to declare when they motion
guys because you can't get out and change

676
00:48:35,199 --> 00:48:38,880
and do a lot of switching unless
they do a bunch set. And they

677
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:45,280
would take advantage bunch to the boundary
and switch guys a lie to where now

678
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:50,639
you can get a linebacker on Jalen
Hyatt. And they did that a bunch

679
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,239
during the season. So it's it's
a very smart offense. Another thing that's

680
00:48:55,280 --> 00:49:00,320
a part of it is clearly the
tempo to see not only had the number

681
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:05,960
one offense in the country, but
they were one and two all the whole

682
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:12,360
time. Hypol has been here in
plays per minute. Yeah, and then

683
00:49:12,559 --> 00:49:16,639
and then the team Bowl. It's
just crazy. Another aspect of these of

684
00:49:16,679 --> 00:49:21,559
the power running game, they still
run on the football. They all running

685
00:49:21,559 --> 00:49:24,320
on the football, sometimes more than
the throw of the football. It's running

686
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:30,559
and shoot offense. Because they have
this tambo. They still want to run

687
00:49:30,639 --> 00:49:36,239
on the football. And I bet
that they will work to have to always

688
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,559
have a quarterback that they kick ball
in the run game and as well and

689
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:46,079
not just have a station pocket quarterback. So um, all of those things

690
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:52,000
still be bounced offense. That the
tambo, the fourth seams of the player

691
00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:57,239
the wise to really put a lot
of teams as a difficult season coverage and

692
00:49:57,639 --> 00:50:00,360
um, and then teams have to
they can't something to either, right,

693
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:07,360
So it gives you a lot of
advantages. Maybe some transition there, uh,

694
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,000
based on the personally have but man, it really work. There had

695
00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:16,639
been a ton of offenses unless you
have to like lee corners right or your

696
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:22,199
team is ready to play like behind
the game. Um, it's harder to

697
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:28,400
beat them with a Do you anticipate
him bringing some Tennessee guys with him,

698
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,440
you know, whether it's the strength
guy or maybe some analysts who have been

699
00:50:31,559 --> 00:50:35,679
or some GA potential kind of guys, A couple of those kind of guys

700
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,760
to fill in part of his staff. I do. I don't have him

701
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,679
inside on those guys. It's hard
to be honest with you, but it

702
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:47,719
is something that we talked about wondered
air and and you know, elevating guys

703
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:53,119
with their roles. You mentioned analysts
and then gas and maybe a position coach

704
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:59,280
people who's been sort of a young
ross was eating in his first year as

705
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:05,039
a wild coach after the Saint as
a wild reach, so you know,

706
00:51:05,079 --> 00:51:08,000
may either there was a recruiting title
or a guy like him there's money.

707
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:14,079
Another aspect of it is is what
did his Tennessee to do in response and

708
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,960
trying to heat those guys? Right, they have all Tennesse. He already

709
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:24,639
had those discussions the look we we
will recruity that assistant in pool. Trying

710
00:51:24,679 --> 00:51:30,599
to heap some guys. I bet
he's wise at least with with some guys

711
00:51:30,679 --> 00:51:35,400
because there was so much familiar Also, the entire offen the side of all

712
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:39,320
those guys they came with them from
Ucah other than that wilde receiver positions,

713
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:45,079
so um, I bet you want
some comfortable pieces and then build around the

714
00:51:45,119 --> 00:51:51,519
base. He's available, so he'll
try. Whether he's able to do it,

715
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,880
Uh, not sure, but I
would think it at least a couple

716
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:01,559
of those guys with in your organization
gether, we'll go with him. And

717
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:06,280
obviously the last part of this is
kind of the lifeblood of any good program

718
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,559
is recruiting. What what kind of
reputation does they have as a recruiter,

719
00:52:08,679 --> 00:52:12,639
both from at the high school of
I know you call high school games the

720
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,159
big prominent games in that Knoxville area. It would see a guy that you

721
00:52:15,159 --> 00:52:17,800
would see at a game every once
in a while, that kind of stuff,

722
00:52:19,039 --> 00:52:22,159
and more and just as important the
ability of recruit guys from other places

723
00:52:22,199 --> 00:52:24,880
through the portal. You know,
there's gonna be guys maybe a Tennessee that

724
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:30,360
maybe want some more playing time whatever
their situation is, or around the Southeastern

725
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,440
Conference. Do you think he'll do
a good job being able to foster those

726
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:36,880
relationships with the high school coaches and
other guys that are in the potentially in

727
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,360
the portal. Yeah. The first
part of it, he's an all recruiter.

728
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:46,119
Um. You know, there's there's
different different recruiting sites of different rankings,

729
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:54,639
so he's not always those ranking one
guy ends up, but as a

730
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,679
lot of different guys. So,
um, I think it will be an

731
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:05,840
excellent encloser. I think he'll do
well in the area. Uh As,

732
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,239
he probably won't be able to do
a lot of the day to day as

733
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:14,599
much just be running a program,
but his relationship will will help him.

734
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:20,320
And that's the second part of it
is that he's already has a term of

735
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:25,480
relationships in the state of Lord when
he was he was recruited that state before,

736
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:30,800
so I think that will give him
a job to be able to continue

737
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:35,639
to transition. And I'm sure he's
had some of those responsibilities in a Tennessee

738
00:53:36,079 --> 00:53:42,000
to are already, so I don't
give it will be his biggest transition.

739
00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:47,000
But um, he is relentless in
the and in the terms of Josh people,

740
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:52,400
a relentless recruiter and he's been in
all of them a lot of guys,

741
00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:58,079
and I think maybe the biggest we
have because he has him around that

742
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:05,400
the biggest pay this was probably in
this current class, right guys. Right

743
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,280
now, he's not going to get
a chance to coach. So it's just

744
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:12,039
kind of a weird situation. From
that standpoint where they got out to tie

745
00:54:12,159 --> 00:54:15,760
ends, they got at the quarterback. Um. So yeah, but I

746
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:20,119
think one of the best things is
about goal. It's just gonna be on

747
00:54:20,159 --> 00:54:23,159
the player to development mentioned the tie
ends, the offensive line, I made

748
00:54:23,199 --> 00:54:29,599
it a drastic improve man the wide
receivers. He's involved in all those things,

749
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:34,280
and so that will buy him to
the time and to be able to

750
00:54:35,039 --> 00:54:40,760
continue to improve and and a relationships
and implorided and recruiting with the high school

751
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:45,920
players and then yeah, to transfer
for World two. Super aggressive from that

752
00:54:45,039 --> 00:54:51,920
standpoint and the name they've hit on
some some but that's kind of the world

753
00:54:52,039 --> 00:54:55,760
for everybody and up right now,
which as you know, setting records and

754
00:54:55,880 --> 00:55:00,400
the non numbers that are out there. Yeah, like to me, one

755
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:05,400
of the big jobs down here is
usf offensively was okay, it's their defense

756
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,320
has really struggled under coach Scott the
last several years. And whether that's a

757
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:14,320
recruiting, an element of recruiting,
lack of recruiting, scheme, coaching,

758
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:19,280
and he's bringing in Todd Orlando to
be the defensive coordinator when Orlando's got some

759
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,960
experience at some other places, but
that's to me where he's really got to.

760
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,440
It's great if you score a bunch
of points, as you saw in

761
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,800
Tennessee, but in crunch time,
when it's time to win, you got

762
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,239
to stop some people. I know, you know, obviously Tennessee had the

763
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,199
issue there at the South Carolina game
at the end. And I know he's

764
00:55:35,199 --> 00:55:38,079
not a defensive coordinator guy, but
still you're now the head coach of the

765
00:55:38,159 --> 00:55:42,800
program. You got to spend some
time on the defense as well. Yes,

766
00:55:43,159 --> 00:55:47,159
and then a lot of that is
a higher and then that's you know,

767
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:52,639
when people the Tennessee team at the
time last year on the Bible and

768
00:55:52,719 --> 00:56:00,440
then when they lost, the people
come out of when they were were to

769
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,840
be found before that. Right.
But one of the things that the people

770
00:56:04,039 --> 00:56:08,599
kind of wonder about long term is
that that offense goes so fast and gets

771
00:56:08,639 --> 00:56:15,400
off the field, so minute two
eighteen a lot of that, and then

772
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:21,199
to put their defense back on the
field and down then you have some room

773
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:24,760
march there there, and then you
had at the end of the game you

774
00:56:25,519 --> 00:56:30,119
slow down to get to the finish
sign, you go three and out,

775
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:36,239
Yes, and you knew that then
that's where it's a problem. Tendenty in

776
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:40,039
the first year and third their defense
right back out on the field tenendents.

777
00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:44,599
He had improvements as a run on
defense this year, but also the tendent

778
00:56:44,639 --> 00:56:49,000
the offenses was better on the third
down, so they were able to move

779
00:56:49,039 --> 00:56:52,039
to the change and leanings vibe.
Their d defense is a literally more time

780
00:56:52,119 --> 00:56:58,480
they were as bad short of the
South Carlin day forward, but other times

781
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:04,760
the defense was was pretty good.
It is just hit the ball games.

782
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,679
But that would be something to watch. Is that pays putting the defense back

783
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:14,880
out You can't keep the change and
that boy on that side of ball.

784
00:57:15,159 --> 00:57:17,039
And obviously this is a minor thing, but it's still a factor, especially

785
00:57:17,039 --> 00:57:21,280
here in Tampa. The heat can
the conditions of the weather when it's so

786
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,280
hot down here. Obviously, when
those guys are on the field and you

787
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:27,679
don't have as much depth as you
need, you get exposed in a hurry

788
00:57:27,719 --> 00:57:30,320
on defense when you don't have those
guys at depth, and then will be

789
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:37,239
some position not the defense offense too
with the offensive line, and it took

790
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,960
those big boys on the offensive line
for some time. They admitted they didn't

791
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:52,639
the last year there the then like
hey, gas and line proved a lot,

792
00:57:53,119 --> 00:57:59,400
but man, experition, those guys
aren't that seed. Then you're not

793
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:08,239
gonna have much success. It's gonna
be in for everybody to go everything.

794
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:15,760
The last year. I bet maybe
able to alas get some guys to the

795
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:25,719
transition and and maybe at least keep
it together progress And I agree. So

796
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:30,480
so in your opinion, you think
Alex is ready for this role to be

797
00:58:30,639 --> 00:58:35,320
the headman at a program like US
if it's not Tennessee obviously, with the

798
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:39,000
demands and the expectations. But you
can't. You can't roll two more years

799
00:58:39,039 --> 00:58:43,440
where you win two or three games. You gotta show some progress pretty quick,

800
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,599
and there's some opportunity to do that
with the transfer portal. Yeah,

801
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:52,719
I do. I've said I'm kind
of a little bit by. He can

802
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:57,480
have to success there and I'm leading
him, but the school's got to help

803
00:58:57,559 --> 00:59:01,679
them. They got to help them
from the minutment. They got to give

804
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:07,400
him the resources to be able to
cry the last county. And we all

805
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:13,000
know there's a tough player there right
in sane. But man, if you

806
00:59:13,159 --> 00:59:15,960
gotta if you gotta till you'll give
it a guy, then you gotta let

807
00:59:16,079 --> 00:59:22,760
them do it. And so there
resources there. Goal should have gotten some

808
00:59:22,039 --> 00:59:28,360
sort of assurances that they're going to
invest if they don't know of that element.

809
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:34,039
And and then here's thing and you
can't. You can't just not participate

810
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:39,360
or we're just dabbling when everybody else
altosort like it is everyone to get the

811
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:46,719
best deal colective uh relationships to help
you from that, I see him the

812
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point because everybody else is own.
So if he has, I do think

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he will, right, they'll understanding
relationships Jo the culture is a big part

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of the them turning so quickly is
it'll be real to the guys. You

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need to give a different process with
the Jones Raman. They about those guys.

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So I think he'll he'll do a
lot of those things to give him

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a base, and I do think
it will be accessible with us album too.

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All right, Convince, great work. Man. Really appreciate the time.

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So there's some great analysis on coach
out Scoalish tell Bray where they can

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find out your great work online.
Yeah, I really appreciate it. And

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you want to see any Goals interviews. He would you like to go to

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those really inpressive to stop from him. You can go to my YouTube channel

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it's been in sports and give me
a father to drive there and you scroll

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through the fine goals to the bunch
there or website. You can see on

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the video nine channel dot com video
podcasts bunch that my blogs and predictions.

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And then I also on Twitter A
been in Fort There as well. We

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will be in Miami. I'll escape. I'll see you the example before after

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we go the Tennessee game for ten
weeks. Not a boy. We like

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to hear that. We'd like to
hear that awesome, awesome work. Vince,

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you're you're the man again. He's
he he's covered Alice goals for two

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years. Knows this guy inside announced
and he's giving you some great knowledge about

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what to expect as the new head
coach of the South Florida Bulls. And

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Vince is a graduate two so I
know he's super excited about the new hire

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as well. So Vince, keep
up the great work, man, appreciate

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and go falls company. Is that
a New Year's Day? That's New Year's

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Day, December thirty game, So
it game, so a lot of a

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lot of attention will be down there, let me anything from there and go

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01:01:52,559 --> 01:01:55,679
hold him. Don't don't be getting
caught on South Beach now, don't be

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getting in the in the blogs down
there on South Beach. No promises,

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so you never know. All right, Bud, have a great week.

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