WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:05.000 This episode may contain content of a graphic nature, including descriptions of physical and 2 00:00:05.120 --> 00:00:10.480 sexual violence against adults, children, and animals. Listener discretion is advised. 3 00:00:12.720 --> 00:00:18.000 Hi everyone, I'm Tanya and I'm Talia, and we are Crimes and Consequences, 4 00:00:18.079 --> 00:00:37.920 a true crime podcast. Hi Talia, Hey Tanya, don't ask me 5 00:00:37.960 --> 00:00:41.359 how I'm doing? Can I just cut through all that bullshit? Yeah, 6 00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:44.520 I'm not gonna ask. Okay, I haven't ask student the last couple episodes. 7 00:00:44.520 --> 00:00:48.520 I don't know if you've noticed. Yeah, there's a reason. Unfortunately 8 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:51.640 it's not funny, but there is a reason. So anyway, I'm a 9 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:55.439 little off today with my sinuses and stuff, guys, so bear with me. 10 00:00:56.719 --> 00:00:59.920 Tany's got this though, I've got it. So i'd like to welcome 11 00:01:00.039 --> 00:01:06.480 everyone back to another exciting episode of Crimes and Consequences. Before I get into 12 00:01:06.560 --> 00:01:10.079 the episode today, though, I'd just like to remind everyone to hit the 13 00:01:10.159 --> 00:01:14.120 subscribe or follow button on whatever app you're listening to. And have you ever 14 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:18.040 heard of the Russian Bonnie and Clyde? Yeah, okay, Well, even 15 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:21.519 if you're not a fan of true crime, you will probably know the names 16 00:01:21.560 --> 00:01:25.239 of Bonnie and Clyde, right, right, they're pretty infamous. And Bonnie 17 00:01:25.239 --> 00:01:30.599 and Clyde they grew to fame like during the Great Depression, after robbing a 18 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:36.239 bunch of places. And they were young lovers who did what they wanted and 19 00:01:36.319 --> 00:01:38.959 they didn't care about consequences, and they killed people. Yeah they yeah, 20 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:44.239 like you said, They went on a murder in robbery spree across multiple states 21 00:01:44.799 --> 00:01:47.680 and lived a life of crime, and they seemed to love every minute of 22 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:51.319 it. However, their little reign of terror came to an end in a 23 00:01:51.400 --> 00:01:57.359 hill of bullets ye one hundred and thirty rounds to be exact. They were 24 00:01:57.400 --> 00:02:02.439 fired into their car after police amber to them. Our story follows two young 25 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:07.800 lovers who compared themselves to Bonnie and Clyde after a standoff with police that was 26 00:02:07.919 --> 00:02:13.639 unfolding on a live stream for the internet to see. No shit, Yeah, 27 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:16.199 it's crazy. Like Bonnie and Clyde, our lovers met a deadly fate. 28 00:02:16.479 --> 00:02:21.879 But some say their dusts aren't as black and white as they need seem. 29 00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:24.080 I mean, why would two young teens with full lives ahead of them 30 00:02:24.680 --> 00:02:30.680 want to go out and blaze a glory because they're young teen Yeah exactly right. 31 00:02:30.120 --> 00:02:42.400 Teams are stupid. Our story follows Dennis murray yovray Yev and Katiev Vaslova 32 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:44.960 Katia. It's my daughter's known name. Oh is it? I like that 33 00:02:45.039 --> 00:02:47.599 name. It's cute. So it's Dennis and Katya. In twenty sixteen, 34 00:02:49.400 --> 00:02:53.039 fifteen year old Dennis and fifteen year old Katya met for the first time after 35 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:59.879 Dennis and his family moved to Piscoff, where Dennis's stepfather got a construction job 36 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:01.560 in the village. They're in Russia, by the way, in case I 37 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:05.479 didn't make that clear, you made it clear, Okay. The pair added 38 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:09.240 each other and vi kum Tac two, which is a social media site similar 39 00:03:09.280 --> 00:03:15.360 to Facebook, and they call it VK. Yeah, I'm gonna call it 40 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:17.120 VK because I'm not gonna be able to say. But it's like Facebook. 41 00:03:17.199 --> 00:03:22.400 Yeah, it's like Facebook. You can post statuses, you can direct message 42 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:24.360 people, you can do all the same things that you can do on Facebook. 43 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:32.080 Dennis and Katibingian messaging each other and became friends quickly, Exchanging messages soon 44 00:03:32.199 --> 00:03:37.400 turned into walks after school and spending time with each other, and not long 45 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:40.879 after that, the two became an item and fell in love. You know 46 00:03:40.919 --> 00:03:46.560 how young love is right. They were insperable and they spent a lot of 47 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:51.439 their time together. Although they were obsessed with each other. The same couldn't 48 00:03:51.479 --> 00:03:54.879 be said about their parents and how they felt about their relationship. During one 49 00:03:54.919 --> 00:04:00.719 of their walks, supposedly, is that what we're calling it the failing at 50 00:04:00.719 --> 00:04:05.879 Walgs, Dennis's mom, Olga, discovered, after it being three o'clock in 51 00:04:05.919 --> 00:04:10.639 the morning, that Dennis wasn't home yet, so she called the police. 52 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:13.800 It's a long walk. Hell yeah, it's a late ass walk too. 53 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:17.720 Who's letting them stay out this late? This is how Olga found out about 54 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:24.279 their relationship. Dennis was in love with Katia, so when his mother forbade 55 00:04:24.360 --> 00:04:29.519 him from seeing her, he was furious, and he convinced Katia they should 56 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:33.240 run away and be together. When Dennis's stepfather went looking for the couple, 57 00:04:33.439 --> 00:04:38.240 he found them on a rooftop the next morning. So that's where they ran 58 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:40.720 away. Yeah, that's where they ran away, and they weren't going to 59 00:04:40.759 --> 00:04:46.600 stop seeing each other, so they continued their relationship despite their families objecting to 60 00:04:46.680 --> 00:04:50.720 their young love. Young love. However, this relationship wasn't all rainbows and 61 00:04:50.759 --> 00:05:00.360 butterflies and no go figure. In early November twenty sixteen, Katia broke up 62 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:03.600 with Dennis. She felt maybe things weren't right when it came to being with 63 00:05:03.680 --> 00:05:08.879 him. There had been the accusations made about Katya that she was cheating on 64 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:13.480 Dennis throughout their relationship. However, Dennis wasn't about to give up on her. 65 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:16.800 He loved her and he just kept pursuing her. Dennis went her back 66 00:05:17.160 --> 00:05:24.759 when he posted on VK of status that made Katya fall ahead over heels back 67 00:05:24.759 --> 00:05:27.240 in love with him. All right, you want to hear what that hot 68 00:05:27.319 --> 00:05:31.480 message was? Okay, so he posted quote forever in my heart despite everything, 69 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:36.399 I love you, love you now and will love That's it. Yeah, 70 00:05:36.519 --> 00:05:40.160 Katya was so moved. She's like, oh my gosh. She posted 71 00:05:40.199 --> 00:05:44.879 that. Everybody just see media and social media. Oh my god, I 72 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:48.879 love you so much. Back together again. Olga knew that trying to keep 73 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:54.879 Dennis and Katia apart just wasn't going to work. And Olga was a psychologist 74 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:58.000 and due to this work, she knew that if she was going to have 75 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:00.879 a good relationship with her son, she needed to build a relationship with his 76 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:03.519 girlfriend. So she's like, okay, if I can't beat him, join 77 00:06:03.600 --> 00:06:09.360 him, I guess is the attitude. Olga invited Katya over for dinner and 78 00:06:09.639 --> 00:06:13.839 to have a talk, which went surprisingly well. The two became very close. 79 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:17.360 They went shopping together, and Katya would come over often to have dinner 80 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:24.120 with Dennis's family. Katya had become like a daughter to Olga, really yeah. 81 00:06:24.120 --> 00:06:28.600 And she even grew close with Dennis's seven year old sister, and she 82 00:06:28.720 --> 00:06:32.639 taught her to draw because Katy was a talented artist. Katya was able to 83 00:06:32.639 --> 00:06:38.399 integrate into this loving family, which wasn't really what she was getting at home. 84 00:06:38.480 --> 00:06:42.279 She spent a lot of time at Dennis's house because I think her home 85 00:06:42.279 --> 00:06:46.720 life was pretty shitty. There was no evidence to suggest that Katya's family was 86 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:53.680 violent, but it really wasn't a very loving household. Olga doated on her 87 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:58.680 children with love and care, whereas Katya's mother and stepfather were often described as 88 00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:05.040 soulless. Oh yeah, son, it's cold souls. Is like Ted BONDI 89 00:07:05.279 --> 00:07:11.000 right, I mean, you know, Katia found a safe haven with Dennis 90 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:15.319 and his family, and their relationship began looking up as Dennis's family grew to 91 00:07:15.399 --> 00:07:20.279 love Katya like she was part of the family. In the summer of twenty 92 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:27.399 sixteen, Dennis's mother received a notice from the Russian Juvenile Commission accusing her of 93 00:07:27.600 --> 00:07:34.120 subjecting Dennis to an unproper upbringing. Dennis. Yeah, yeah, great thing 94 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:40.160 that they were, but unbeknownst to her, Dennis had been violating school regulations. 95 00:07:40.720 --> 00:07:44.680 Dennis was being rude to teachers and skipping class to go out smoking. 96 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:48.959 Oga was shocked as she had assumed Dennis was attending class at school. I 97 00:07:49.040 --> 00:07:56.439 skipped classic of smoke, did you. Dennis's behavior began to shift into a 98 00:07:56.519 --> 00:08:01.000 rebellious teen and his friends from school even took notice in his new behavior, 99 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:05.920 and one friend said, Dennis used to be a good student and studied often, 100 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:11.399 but a shift began when he started seeing Katya Erna, I would say 101 00:08:11.439 --> 00:08:16.279 a few months, Dennis's behavior began to grow hostile. He was fighting with 102 00:08:16.319 --> 00:08:20.519 his friends, and early in the relationship with Katya, he threw temper tantrums 103 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:24.120 as Katya would sometimes go off with other boys like he would, I mean, 104 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:28.639 I would throw my girlfriend was like with other boys, and like I 105 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:33.279 said. It was rumored that Katy was cheating on Dennis throughout the relationship, 106 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:35.519 which really upset him. But they worked it out. Yeah, they did 107 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:39.960 work it out. One afternoon, the couple returned home after school and they 108 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:43.399 got into an argument about what they were going to do with the rest of 109 00:08:43.440 --> 00:08:48.200 the afternoon. The fight escalated into a screaming match between the two, and 110 00:08:48.279 --> 00:08:52.840 eventually Katya left, leaving Dennis to continue to take out his anger and his 111 00:08:52.919 --> 00:08:56.320 mom and little sister. Dennis was grounded due to this and was sent to 112 00:08:56.360 --> 00:09:01.840 his room, but would later reconcile with his family and he apologized for his 113 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:07.240 behavior. Dennis and Katy's relationship felt more strained when Katy began cheating on Dennis 114 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:13.840 again, which she had initially denied. Dennis was very hurt, but he 115 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:16.879 was so in love with Katya he chose to work things out with her. 116 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:22.240 People at school took notice about how toxic their relationship was becoming. Their friends 117 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:26.080 would try and help them out, but as young teenagers are stubborn as how, 118 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:30.840 God, don't even start. Don't get me started, I know, 119 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:35.799 right, Dennis and Katya ignored the please their friends made. They were in 120 00:09:35.960 --> 00:09:39.440 love and no one was going to tell them otherwise. That's absolutely right, 121 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:43.559 right they were. It was fucking beautiful. Man. Fifteen is a hard 122 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:50.120 age, I remember. I know. One night Oga got a text from 123 00:09:50.200 --> 00:09:54.039 Katya. Katya told her that her stepfather had beat her and she decided to 124 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:58.159 run away from home and fear it would happen again. Is that true? 125 00:09:58.840 --> 00:10:03.200 I don't know if it's really true, but it's possible. When Dennis found 126 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:05.759 out, he went to try and find Katya because she had left her house. 127 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:11.320 After some convincing, Olga got Katya to come over to their house, 128 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:13.720 and when she got there, Oga told her that she should talk to her 129 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:18.879 parents to sort things out, as they were probably worried sick about where she 130 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:22.799 was. Katya told her she would be better off living on the streets than 131 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:28.519 returned home to them. It was obvious to Olga that Katya was extremely intoxicated. 132 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:35.159 Oh and Oga called Katy's parents and she really didn't fully believe Katya's version 133 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:39.840 of events due to some prior behaviors, but when her parents did show up, 134 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:45.679 Oga realized that Katya may have been telling the truth. When Katya's stepfather 135 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:48.320 came to pick her up, Katya originally refused to get into his car. 136 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:52.960 Then her stepfather grabbed her and dragged her into the car, causing quite the 137 00:10:54.039 --> 00:11:00.960 scene, Oga heard Katya wheezing and Dennis said he saw Katya's stepfather head what 138 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:05.320 I know, Oga felt terrible after this altercation. She had no idea how 139 00:11:05.320 --> 00:11:09.679 horrible Katya's life was, and she had just called the person who Katy was 140 00:11:09.759 --> 00:11:16.799 afraid of or such a yeah. Oga messaged Katya to apologize to her for 141 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:22.120 what she had caused, and Katya forgave her easily, but there was concern 142 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:26.879 that Katya had hinted that she made take her own life. Oga insisted that 143 00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:31.720 Katya come over for dinner, and when she arrived a few days later, 144 00:11:31.879 --> 00:11:37.679 she had noticeable bruise on her head. Apparently Katya had decided to sneak out 145 00:11:37.720 --> 00:11:41.679 to a friend's sleepover. Kati had a curfew of nine pms, so when 146 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:46.480 her mother discovered she wasn't home, she went out and found her at this 147 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:50.519 friend's house. Katya's mother took her home in allegedly a screaming match ensued, 148 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:56.320 which turned into a physical altercation, which is where it is assumed she got 149 00:11:56.320 --> 00:12:01.279 the bruise. Oga had gotten some oint meant to help with the bruise and 150 00:12:01.399 --> 00:12:05.039 ask Katya if she was seriously considering taking her own life. Because she was 151 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:09.639 saying that she's just like I'd be better off det Katya told her that, 152 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:13.639 well, I did rethink it, and I don't think I will okay, 153 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:18.159 So I think we're good. Katya expressed she was hesitant to go home though, 154 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:22.399 as she feared what she would be returning to, but she did eventually 155 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:28.759 go home. The next day, Dennis's mother looked at Dennis's VK page, 156 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:33.399 where she saw a post that had recently been made where Katya had said she 157 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:37.720 would go quote to the end end quote with Dennis, what does that mean? 158 00:12:37.799 --> 00:12:41.879 Yeah? When his mother asked him what it meant, Dennis simply told 159 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:45.000 her that she had nothing to worry about and that Katya just needed some time 160 00:12:45.039 --> 00:12:48.759 to cool off. Dennis's mom, Olga, was still concerned. What could 161 00:12:48.799 --> 00:12:54.120 Katya mean to the end? Yeah? She had just made comments about suicide 162 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:58.799 earlier in the week. Could she be contemplating ending her own life? Olga 163 00:12:58.960 --> 00:13:03.320 was right to be concerned about Katia Anderson. The pair had a plan, 164 00:13:03.440 --> 00:13:07.399 and the plan wasn't going to have a happy ending. On November eleventh, 165 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:13.960 twenty sixteen, Dennis suddenly goes missing. His mother and stepfather had returned home 166 00:13:15.000 --> 00:13:18.120 in the afternoon to find that he wasn't home and his phone had been switched 167 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:22.080 off. When they continued to search his room for answers, they found that 168 00:13:22.200 --> 00:13:26.879 some warm clothing had been taken, some pillows, blankets, a knife, 169 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:31.919 a bottle of alcohol, and some bank cards were also missing. It was 170 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:37.120 discovered that Dennis had used the cards earlier to withdraw a thousand rubles from his 171 00:13:37.320 --> 00:13:41.320 parents. Yeah, from his parents accounts, and a thousand rubles is only 172 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:45.600 about thirteen dollars. Oh, it sounds not like it sounds like a lounds 173 00:13:45.639 --> 00:13:48.720 like a lot of money. When his parents had asked his friends if they 174 00:13:48.759 --> 00:13:52.360 knew anything, has anybody talked to Dennis? One of them said that they 175 00:13:52.360 --> 00:13:56.240 saw him the day before, but he didn't mention to them that he was 176 00:13:56.360 --> 00:13:58.559 leaving or going out in his own like. They had no idea where he 177 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:07.320 could be. Dennis's parents contacted Katya's parents next as, and they told Dennis's 178 00:14:07.360 --> 00:14:09.759 parents that they couldn't get a hold of Katya either, that she had gone 179 00:14:09.759 --> 00:14:15.960 missing. Katya's parents said that she'd been gone for two days. Shocked, 180 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:20.519 Dennis's parents told him the Dennis was also missing and that they were out looking 181 00:14:20.559 --> 00:14:24.840 for him. However, Katya's parents refused to help to look for their daughter. 182 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:31.120 Outraged, Olga kept pressuring Katia's parents for information, like how could you 183 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:35.240 possibly not care where your daughter's are. Eventually, Kata's mother broke and told 184 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:41.159 Olga that Katya's stepmother lived in a village called Strugi Kresny. Her stepmother, 185 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:46.759 her stepmother, where's her dad? That's where her dad lives? Okay, 186 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:52.200 okay, and the teens may have gone there. Frustrated, Olga found where 187 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:56.120 the stepmother lived and pleaded with her to let her know if the pair showed 188 00:14:56.200 --> 00:15:01.120 up to her house. Whilst Oga was looking for a lead, Dennis's stopfather 189 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:05.399 was searching all of the known spots that the teens liked to go to. 190 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:11.799 After extensive searches around the village, Dennis's family decided to report Dennis missing. 191 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:16.799 Katia's mother got in contact with Dennis's family and told them they weren't going to 192 00:15:16.840 --> 00:15:22.559 be filing a missing person's report on their daughter. However, despite saying this 193 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:26.320 to Oga, Katya's mother did end up making a report, but it wasn't 194 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:30.840 to report her missing. It was a report to the Commission of Juvenile Affairs 195 00:15:30.879 --> 00:15:33.360 in an attempt to get Katia placed in a boarding school. Well, you 196 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:37.480 know what, that's not really a bad idea. Yeah, probably not. 197 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:41.159 Not long after this missing person's report was filed, Dennis contacted his mother. 198 00:15:41.480 --> 00:15:45.879 He told her that he was with Katia, that they were safe, but 199 00:15:45.919 --> 00:15:48.879 he wasn't going to tell her where they were. Dennis also asked his mom 200 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:54.080 to withdraw her report to the police, like I'm not missing. Whatever you 201 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:56.840 want. However, Oga was like, yeah, I'm not going to do 202 00:15:56.879 --> 00:16:02.360 that. What the families didn't know is that the teams took a minibus to 203 00:16:02.720 --> 00:16:07.559 Strugi Krasny and they got in contact with Dennis's half sister and asked her if 204 00:16:07.559 --> 00:16:11.320 she could write an apartment for them, because they couldn't they were only teenagers. 205 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:14.279 Well, how they have any money? They have their team? I 206 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:18.240 know, I don't know. You know, shit doesn't make sense when you're 207 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:22.480 a teenager. And before I tell you the rest of the story, we're 208 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:34.799 going to take a break. They made their way to a cottage that one 209 00:16:34.840 --> 00:16:40.519 of Katia's family members owned and they decided to hide out there. It wasn't 210 00:16:40.559 --> 00:16:42.919 occupied at the time, and they got into the cottage by breaking in through 211 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:47.639 a window. They decided to stay there, and they made a plan that 212 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:51.519 when the time was right, they would make their way to the city to 213 00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:53.519 start a new life. So they were just going to hide out there regroup. 214 00:16:53.559 --> 00:16:59.360 I guess when the time is right. No money, with no money 215 00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:03.880 and no possessions. Yeah, exactly, all right, exactly. Eventually, 216 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:11.599 Katya's mom learned that they had gone to Strugi Kresny and informed Dennis's family of 217 00:17:11.599 --> 00:17:15.359 where the teens were. The two families traveled to this cottage and Oga told 218 00:17:15.480 --> 00:17:21.319 Katya's mom to call the police for help. However, her mom refused as 219 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:25.240 she didn't want to damage the cottage's front door, like she didn't want the 220 00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:29.519 police breaking in, and decided that the best choice was just to wait outside 221 00:17:29.559 --> 00:17:34.359 until Dennis and Katya came out sometime right Katya's grandma also made her way to 222 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:38.839 the cottage to confront them and to tell them to come home. When Grandma 223 00:17:38.920 --> 00:17:44.480 arrived to the cottage, she and Dennis's mom knocked on the door prepared to 224 00:17:44.519 --> 00:17:48.200 convince them to come home. Dennis answered the door and told them you need 225 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:52.720 to go. We're we're not coming home. You need to leave and we're 226 00:17:52.720 --> 00:17:56.079 not coming out. Katya noticed the commotion and also came to the door, 227 00:17:56.279 --> 00:18:00.240 and when this was happening, she had a knife in her hand because she 228 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:04.359 was cooking in the kitchen. Her grandmother noticed the knife and she felt threatened 229 00:18:04.440 --> 00:18:10.000 and she lunged towards Katia an attempt to take the knife from her. The 230 00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:14.960 knife ended up slicing Katya's hand. So Dennis, trying to protect Katya, 231 00:18:15.279 --> 00:18:18.559 pulled out a pistol that he had been hiding I'm assuming in his pants, 232 00:18:18.759 --> 00:18:23.599 and he shot Katia's mother in the hip. He shot his mother her mother, 233 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:26.720 Yeah, grandma, her mother, Yeah, because mom and grandma are 234 00:18:26.759 --> 00:18:30.039 at the door, right, where'd you get a goddamn gun? Trawn. 235 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:33.640 Oh, there's a bunch of guns in this cottage. O the cottage. 236 00:18:33.759 --> 00:18:37.359 Yes. Katia's grandmother and mother both backed away when this happened. I mean, 237 00:18:37.400 --> 00:18:41.880 she needs medical health now. And the teens decided to barricade themselves in 238 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:45.119 the house. Oh my god, it just goes from bad to worse. 239 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:51.160 Someone notified the police, and as they responded to the calls, Dennis's family 240 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:53.839 arrived to the property to convince the teens to come home. And I'm gonna 241 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:56.799 tell you like, a whole shit ton of cop showed up as well as 242 00:18:57.279 --> 00:19:03.359 news media for people there, and you can imagine the main up. This 243 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:07.960 is when Dennis and Kati decided to go live on a live streaming app called 244 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:12.240 Periscope. So they decide they go live on Parisco, but they're going to 245 00:19:12.279 --> 00:19:18.519 advocate for themselves. And ye what they're live stream shit show right, look 246 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:21.440 at what We're just trying to start a new life. Yeah, these people 247 00:19:21.440 --> 00:19:25.079 won't leave us alone. And look, Kati's hand is cut and whatever, 248 00:19:25.319 --> 00:19:30.279 okay. While live, the pair told their audience about the encounter they both 249 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:34.680 had with Kati's family. Katie explained to everyone watching that she didn't mean to 250 00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:37.480 be aggressive. I'm sorry. Well, she was holding the knife, but 251 00:19:37.559 --> 00:19:42.079 her grandma saw the knife and instantly went for it. Kati said, I 252 00:19:42.119 --> 00:19:45.599 don't even feel the pain. I didn't even feel the pain when the knife 253 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:51.079 sliced my hands. And she said that Dennis was nervous when the scuffle began 254 00:19:51.160 --> 00:19:56.400 and he had no choice but to shoot his mom, no other action at 255 00:19:56.440 --> 00:20:03.839 all. It was just as the police and Dennis's family arrived to the scene, 256 00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:08.599 Kati's mom was telling the police that Dennis was holding Kati a captive inside 257 00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:12.680 the house and was refusing to let her leave. So you can imagine this 258 00:20:12.720 --> 00:20:15.839 is like it's just like I said, it goes from bad to work. 259 00:20:17.079 --> 00:20:22.799 It's completely a shit show. Katie responded to those accusations of her mother's claims 260 00:20:22.880 --> 00:20:26.440 on her life stream, and she told the viewers that just wasn't true. 261 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:30.480 She was there voluntarily of her own free will, and Dennis wasn't making her 262 00:20:30.480 --> 00:20:34.039 do anything that's not going to hold up, that's not going to work so 263 00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:37.160 well for her in court. I know later, girl, you could be 264 00:20:37.200 --> 00:20:42.960 under duress, right. She let the audience know that the reason they had 265 00:20:44.079 --> 00:20:48.079 ran away and she said, quote it all started when I had a row 266 00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:53.279 with mom in roe means argument. She said that on her periscope stream. 267 00:20:53.279 --> 00:20:56.559 She said, quote, they found me at night and beat me up cruelly 268 00:20:56.839 --> 00:21:00.920 in front of Dennis and his mother. Then I went home but ran away 269 00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:07.039 again and we hid here end quote. Katya also expressed that the two of 270 00:21:07.079 --> 00:21:10.599 them weren't going to give up without a fight. If they were going to 271 00:21:10.680 --> 00:21:14.440 go out, they were going to go out in style. Okay, they're 272 00:21:14.480 --> 00:21:18.519 such badasses. Laze of glory, blaze of glory. The couple had discovered 273 00:21:18.559 --> 00:21:22.880 that there was a firearms safe in the cottage, and they managed to open 274 00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:30.279 it to find an assortment of firearms ranging from shotguns to pistols and his pistol. 275 00:21:30.480 --> 00:21:34.240 Yes, then they showed off the firearms on the live stream. Check 276 00:21:34.279 --> 00:21:40.079 out this stash we got. We got going on here. As police arrived 277 00:21:40.200 --> 00:21:44.319 to the property, Dennis thought it would be really funny to aim a gun 278 00:21:44.440 --> 00:21:48.720 at the police and started firing at them while he was laughing. And this 279 00:21:48.839 --> 00:21:52.839 is why I hate teen. This just sounds like a great idea. Dennis 280 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:57.440 actually injured a police officer in the process, who was hiding in some bushes 281 00:21:57.480 --> 00:22:02.480 nearby. I mean, I think he's just firing randomly, but oh ha 282 00:22:02.599 --> 00:22:06.039 ha ha, that's a really bad idea, very bad idea to fire a 283 00:22:06.079 --> 00:22:11.200 gun at the police anywhere you live, Russia, United States, anywhere. 284 00:22:11.960 --> 00:22:15.920 The police officer called for backup, and this is where the standoff with the 285 00:22:15.960 --> 00:22:21.559 police began. During the conversation between the teens, Katya compared themselves to the 286 00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:27.000 infamous gangster couple. Katya said, did you kill anyone? Dennis said no, 287 00:22:27.000 --> 00:22:32.400 no one. Katya said no, no one. Yet Danna said maybe 288 00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:34.319 I got cops. I don't know. I see cops and just shoot in 289 00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:38.720 their direction. Maybe I got one. If I didn't, it'll be another 290 00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:45.000 fifteen years in jail approximately. If I did, it'll be another fifteen years 291 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:48.440 in jail. Kati says, Bannie and Clyde Dennis says, so cool, 292 00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:53.200 go on, it's time to say our last words. To the shock of 293 00:22:53.400 --> 00:22:59.240 everyone watching, the teens acted very casual during this live stream, and I 294 00:22:59.279 --> 00:23:03.039 tend to think maybe teenagers just don't understand. Yeah, reality, like right, 295 00:23:07.279 --> 00:23:11.720 lasts right, fifteen years is a really long time, right, and 296 00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:15.720 when you do stupid shit like this, there are consequences, like you said, 297 00:23:15.759 --> 00:23:18.680 so, I think that that's why they probably had this attitude, you 298 00:23:18.720 --> 00:23:21.200 know, being casual in whatever. It's just a game, right right. 299 00:23:21.960 --> 00:23:25.640 They were seen cutting their hair on the live stream and dying it. They 300 00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:30.920 were eating food, drinking, smoking, and they continued to show off the 301 00:23:30.000 --> 00:23:34.319 firearms. Katie and Dennis took humor in the fact that they knew that the 302 00:23:34.440 --> 00:23:40.079 special police unit would be forced to storm the property, and the teens told 303 00:23:40.079 --> 00:23:42.720 everyone that they were going to open fire as soon as the police entered the 304 00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:48.599 home. Dennis then picked up a gun and shot the TV, which was 305 00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:52.599 inside the house. They then decided to throw the TV out of the window 306 00:23:52.839 --> 00:23:57.200 at police. The teens continued to make jokes about the police, calling them 307 00:23:57.319 --> 00:24:03.079 useless, and told their audience on periscope that they would only storm the home 308 00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:07.519 because they were bored and were afraid of children. Right. They reveled in 309 00:24:07.559 --> 00:24:11.720 the thought of shooting at the police and said it would be fun to shoot 310 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:15.279 at them. Dennis claimed he had shot two dogs before the standoff. However, 311 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:19.480 there wasn't any evidence of any animals being shot. Horrible. Yeah. 312 00:24:19.799 --> 00:24:25.400 The teams joked about how they were psychopaths. Yeah, that were misunderstood. 313 00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:30.440 Okay, well you're a psychopath. Yeah, sorry to understand you, you 314 00:24:30.480 --> 00:24:34.319 know, right, Oh my goodness. He it's kind of hard to understand 315 00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:40.519 irrational behavior. During the live stream, Katia was seen holding a gun to 316 00:24:40.599 --> 00:24:45.319 Dennis's head with no reaction from him. He was smiling while Katia held the 317 00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:51.279 gun to his head. With all these wild things that they were doing, 318 00:24:51.559 --> 00:24:55.839 friends who were watching the live stream tried to reason with them, telling them 319 00:24:56.079 --> 00:24:57.839 all the things they were risking. Did they get a lot of viewers? 320 00:24:57.960 --> 00:25:02.200 I don't even know how many lot of light. I know, right, 321 00:25:02.240 --> 00:25:06.359 this is so dumb. One person told them to think about their whole life 322 00:25:06.400 --> 00:25:10.039 that they had ahead of them, and to this, Katya said, quote 323 00:25:10.359 --> 00:25:15.039 life ahead. Damn, they don't understand what we've done. Dennis replied with 324 00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:18.960 quote, they will put us in children's prison. Quote. Both Dennis's and 325 00:25:19.079 --> 00:25:22.960 Katya's family tried to reason with them to no avail. At this point. 326 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:29.920 They haven't killed anybody, so there's still some chance for redemption in a life, 327 00:25:30.160 --> 00:25:34.400 right. They both ignored these pleas made by their parents. The police 328 00:25:34.400 --> 00:25:38.319 were also trying to make contact with Dennis, as they still believed that he 329 00:25:38.359 --> 00:25:42.799 was holding Katya captive. It was just like this huge piscope. They're not 330 00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:48.480 watching periscope. They kept calling out to Dennis. Let Katia go okay, 331 00:25:48.599 --> 00:25:52.640 yeah, little did the police know or like you mentioned, because they weren't 332 00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:57.519 following their live stream. Dennis and Katya had started discussing suicide. Why isn't 333 00:25:57.559 --> 00:26:02.799 anybody from periscope letting, like the police know what's going on? I don't 334 00:26:02.799 --> 00:26:04.960 know, right, like because they're all their teens. Yeah, it must 335 00:26:04.960 --> 00:26:08.119 be right, because there are other teams exactly, you mean people in their 336 00:26:08.160 --> 00:26:12.519 audience, y yeah, yeah, I because they're all dumb focks. That's 337 00:26:12.519 --> 00:26:18.359 why I was. I was the dumbest when I was a teen. The 338 00:26:18.440 --> 00:26:22.400 police were trying to negotiate with Dennis, saying, quote Dennis, calmly, 339 00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:26.079 come out, that's enough, we are all tired. Just don't do stupid 340 00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:30.359 things end quote over a loudspeaker. The police were getting frustrated as there was 341 00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:34.240 really no progress happening. It's kind of just they're all just sitting there and 342 00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:37.920 they put like a smoke bomb and then they would think like that they were 343 00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:42.000 still at a standstill, and they just seemed to be no end in sight. 344 00:26:42.960 --> 00:26:48.440 With the hup of police, Olga convinced the teens to surrender their weapons 345 00:26:48.440 --> 00:26:52.000 to her. The teens walked to the balcony of the property like Olga had 346 00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:56.559 gone over there and said, you know, can you just give me the 347 00:26:56.599 --> 00:27:00.240 weapon? So they walked to this balcony and they dropped down a nice various 348 00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:06.440 Ammo cartridges and guns and told Olga that the only thing left in the house 349 00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:12.119 was a ladle, you know, a coupullshit, Yeah, I don't know, 350 00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:18.799 a weapon, No, I mean, what kind of damage could you 351 00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:19.920 do with a ladle? I mean, you could hit somebody with it. 352 00:27:21.279 --> 00:27:25.319 I don't know. I'll have to, like see if anybody's ever been killed 353 00:27:25.400 --> 00:27:29.880 by a ladle. I bet you someone probably it would be crazy enough. 354 00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:34.559 Dennis's mom collected the weapons and moved them away from the property before going back 355 00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:38.720 to the balcony to continue to talk to them and hopes that they would surrender 356 00:27:38.759 --> 00:27:44.720 themselves. Dennis's mom told the teens that Katya could come to live with them 357 00:27:44.839 --> 00:27:48.400 so she could get away from her abusive parents. That's the last thing I 358 00:27:48.400 --> 00:27:52.039 would want is Katy. She's just trying to get them out. She also 359 00:27:52.119 --> 00:27:56.799 told her son that she would always be there for him and that she loved 360 00:27:56.880 --> 00:28:03.480 him very much. Olga made small talk about the teen's new hairstyles. You 361 00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:11.000 cut your hair, and she's trying anything this poor woman. After chadding for 362 00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:15.160 a while, Dennis asked for forty minutes alone with Katya so they could get 363 00:28:15.200 --> 00:28:19.359 their things together okay, thinking that she finally got through to the pair, 364 00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:25.720 The police and Dennis's mom obliged and gave them the time they asked for. 365 00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:30.240 When the police went through the firearms that they had surrendered, they believed that 366 00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:33.480 they weren't being truthful, and they still had weapons in the house. No 367 00:28:33.559 --> 00:28:41.640 shit, Yeah, no shit right spoiler alert. The owner of the cottage, 368 00:28:41.720 --> 00:28:45.799 who happened to be Katia's stepdad, later confirmed to the police that there 369 00:28:45.880 --> 00:28:52.400 was still one more firearm in the house. In between conversations with his mom, 370 00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:56.240 Dennis was talking to Katia on the live stream about how his mother only 371 00:28:56.279 --> 00:29:00.640 cared now because the police were telling her to act up. Set quote now, 372 00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:04.920 my mom is not so upset. This is just sobl which is the 373 00:29:06.039 --> 00:29:11.839 armed Special Forces told her to say it this way. The forty minutes were 374 00:29:11.920 --> 00:29:15.160 up, and Oga made her way back to the balcony to ask if they 375 00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:21.039 were ready to come out. Dennis told her he wanted another five minutes before 376 00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:25.920 the police came and entered the home, wanting to go in. Oga had 377 00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:29.440 enough and headed toward the door to get inside. She's pretty brave, yeah 378 00:29:29.440 --> 00:29:30.839 she is. She's like, this is fucking bullshit, right, this is 379 00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:36.559 ending. Now, You're getting out of here now craft yea, he were 380 00:29:36.640 --> 00:29:41.799 grounded forever, mister, right. Once the police realized what she was doing, 381 00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:45.559 they ordered her to move away from the door. So she's like, 382 00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:48.000 okay, and she moves away from the house. And while she's doing this, 383 00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:52.839 she tried to call Dennis's phone, but there was no answer. It 384 00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:55.880 had been turned off. Sick of the games the teams were playing, the 385 00:29:55.920 --> 00:30:00.000 police decided to storm the cottage. The police used a flash bang before entering 386 00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:03.519 the house in order to distract the teens. And isn't that like, yeah, 387 00:30:03.559 --> 00:30:07.640 it's really loud, right, yeah, and then it has a big 388 00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:12.599 flash and exactly, yeah, that's what I thought. As they made their 389 00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:17.200 way up to the room where the teens were staying, the police found the 390 00:30:17.240 --> 00:30:22.680 bodies of Katia and Dennis, both with fatal gunshot wounds. During the forty 391 00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:26.839 minutes that Dennis had asked for, the teens continued to stream their standoff on 392 00:30:26.920 --> 00:30:32.200 periscope. You could audibly hear Katya sniffing in the background, and she told 393 00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:36.920 the viewers of live stream she was too afraid to kill herself. They showed 394 00:30:36.920 --> 00:30:40.880 the shotgun that they still had on the stream, and their final moments were 395 00:30:40.920 --> 00:30:45.559 coming to an end. Kati asked Dennis to shoot her. She went and 396 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:51.720 sat on a couch where the teams filmed most of their streams. Dennis sun 397 00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:56.000 shot her in the face. After he shot Katya, he turned the shotgun 398 00:30:56.079 --> 00:31:00.559 on himself and shot himself as well. Allegedly, Dennis was texting a friend 399 00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:04.640 about shooting Katya. He told his friend that he was going to tell Katya 400 00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:08.599 to turn her back and shoot her from behind so she wouldn't be so scared. 401 00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:14.960 Before they died, both teams wrote a post for their VK accounts and 402 00:31:15.119 --> 00:31:18.400 both read the same, and I'll read it to you. It said, 403 00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:22.359 quote, I love you, but you did not notice how you had ruined 404 00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:26.599 my mind and life. Who is just addressed too? I don't know. 405 00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:32.279 Goodbye all friends, family and acquaintances. Don't worry. I'll leave in a 406 00:31:32.279 --> 00:31:36.640 beautiful way. Good luck to everyone in life. And please don't fear to 407 00:31:36.680 --> 00:31:41.960 live however you want or feel is necessary. A life of pleasure is the 408 00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:45.519 best life. I love you. End quote. It's weird. Yeah, 409 00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:49.119 that's weird. That's not very deep. I know, no goodbye. It 410 00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:52.799 should have just been like goodbye world. I don't know. A life of 411 00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:57.000 pleasure, yeah, just weird. Do whatever you want, Okay, Sometimes 412 00:31:57.000 --> 00:32:01.680 you can't know. Sometimes you got you got kids? No, I can 413 00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:08.680 never do what I want a mom uber Yeah, half the time, I 414 00:32:08.759 --> 00:32:13.000 know exactly, I know, like eighty percent of my life was not doing 415 00:32:13.000 --> 00:32:19.279 what I want right at least at least. Yes, an autopsy was performed 416 00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:22.799 on both Katya and Dennis, and it was assumed that Katia gave Dennis consent 417 00:32:22.920 --> 00:32:29.519 to shoot her before he killed himself. The autopsy showed that they were mildly 418 00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:34.799 intoxicated, but no drugs were found in their system. However, many people 419 00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:38.880 speculate that the teams were unarmed and when the police stormed the building, that 420 00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:44.079 the police actually shot them both. Oh, there's that conspiracy. Yes, 421 00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:46.440 there's a conspiracy theory. But I thought it was all like live streamed. 422 00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:52.000 Yes, exactly, exactly right. So there's the conspiracy that they didn't commit 423 00:32:52.039 --> 00:32:53.559 suicide and that the police killed them. Why would the police go in and 424 00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:58.599 shoot them in the head. Well, you know, during the live stream, 425 00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:02.200 both Katya and us agreed that suicide was not an option, so it 426 00:33:02.240 --> 00:33:05.839 was hard for some people to believe that they would have just done it. 427 00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:10.440 Also, people noticed that in the bodycam footage from the police, you couldn't 428 00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:14.640 hear the gunshots that would have been the fatal shots, and it was supposedly 429 00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:17.759 a shotgun. I mean, those things are loud. Yeah, the autopsy 430 00:33:17.839 --> 00:33:22.319 showed that both teams had been shot around the chin area, which was inconsistent 431 00:33:22.640 --> 00:33:28.359 with those texts that Dennis had said to his friend. You know that he 432 00:33:28.440 --> 00:33:30.599 was going to shoot her from behind, but he also wasn't in a good 433 00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:36.559 frame of mind right right. While the police deny ever shooting the teams, 434 00:33:36.599 --> 00:33:39.960 some people believe that they shot them because Dennis had been randomly shooting and he 435 00:33:40.160 --> 00:33:44.240 had shot a police officer. I don't know, maybe, but I feel 436 00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:46.880 like it's a strateg Like, I mean, fifteen years old, I know 437 00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:50.759 it's kind of fun there, right, Why would they both of them, 438 00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:52.839 maybe just Donnis they could have shot, but why would they shoot hurt? 439 00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:57.200 And then you would think that people on the outside would have heard shots, 440 00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:00.960 right, like their parents would have heard shots. Just see maybe hey we 441 00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:05.279 shot down us, we rescued Katia or something like that. But I shoot 442 00:34:05.319 --> 00:34:08.159 her too. I know, it just doesn't sound I think they were just 443 00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:13.840 they lost the kids, lost their minds. But some people just love conspiracy 444 00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:16.039 theories. They're great. I think they're fun. You know, well this 445 00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:20.880 isn't fun, no, But conspiracy theories don't know what you're saying, Like, 446 00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:24.840 you know, are there aliens did they really land at Raswell maybe maybe 447 00:34:25.119 --> 00:34:28.199 I love that one. Yeah, I do too. That's one of my 448 00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:31.880 favorite And JFK started on that girl. I know that's one of my favorites 449 00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:37.599 too. I mean anyway, Okay, I'm digressing. We are digressing. 450 00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:42.360 I need to get back on subject. After their deaths, investigations were conducted 451 00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:45.559 over how the evidence was mishandled. So I'm gonna tell you. A member 452 00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:50.840 of the forensic team who took photos of the crime scene decided to take the 453 00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:54.719 camera home and allowed their daughter to play with it. Okay, the mother 454 00:34:55.480 --> 00:35:00.639 saw so I'm thinking this was the dad, but some and custody. It's 455 00:35:00.679 --> 00:35:04.119 bad, doesn't mean anything to them. The mom saw the photos and decided 456 00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:08.239 to upload the photos to her VKA account. All which, beware if you 457 00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:14.960 research their case, there are uncensored crime scene pictures of the team's bodies floating 458 00:35:14.960 --> 00:35:19.880 around I know, all thanks to this forensic team member. A privacy investigation 459 00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:22.119 was conducted, but due to a lack of evidence, which I don't see 460 00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:27.800 how her posting on the fucking VK isn't evidence enough, but whatever, the 461 00:35:27.880 --> 00:35:32.320 case was dropped and no criminal charges were filed. Katya's stepfather was also charged 462 00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:37.400 with careless storage of firearms. He said it was in a safe Yeah they 463 00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:40.159 were, But like the other things that were going on the investigation, the 464 00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:45.239 charges were dropped. The head of the District Commissions and the Department of Miners 465 00:35:45.280 --> 00:35:50.960 of the Pisscoff Police Department, who was on duty at the time of the 466 00:35:51.000 --> 00:35:55.679 standoff, was charged with quote improper performance of his duties due to the dishonest 467 00:35:55.679 --> 00:36:02.000 attitude to the service which negligently resulted in the death of two persons. What 468 00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:07.440 does this mean? Can you say? Layman terms? According to the case 469 00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:13.440 file, this person did not fully investigate the circumstances behind the teens running away. 470 00:36:13.519 --> 00:36:16.519 They did not interview any of their friends or family, and also didn't 471 00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:23.920 include a juvenile investigator in their search for the teens. Okay. The chargers 472 00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:29.039 were also dismissed, mostly due to the fact that they could not have predicted 473 00:36:29.079 --> 00:36:31.719 that the teens were going to kill themselves due to the effort made by police. 474 00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:36.159 Right, I mean maybe a little because she was saying she was going 475 00:36:36.199 --> 00:36:38.480 to kill herself earlier. I don't know. It is a stretch. I 476 00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:42.400 think, yeah, you don't think people are going to do that, especially 477 00:36:42.440 --> 00:36:45.119 over. This was I mean, they didn't have a lot of choices. 478 00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:47.039 They can either storm it and have a gunfight, or they can give them 479 00:36:47.079 --> 00:36:51.880 forty minutes to come out right. I don't know. I mean this was 480 00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:55.400 stupid to me, Like they weren't holding anybody hostage, you know, it 481 00:36:55.440 --> 00:36:59.440 could have been, but then they thought that Katia was being held out. 482 00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:04.000 It's true, that's true. Yeah. The school in which Dennis and Katia 483 00:37:04.000 --> 00:37:07.960 attended avoided any criminal liability due to a lack of evidence of any wrongdoing. 484 00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:12.559 And I don't know what the school would do and abused everybody. I know, 485 00:37:12.719 --> 00:37:16.199 everybody's being charge of everything. An abuse of power investigation began against the 486 00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:21.679 local police, which was also dismissed due to a lack of evidence. However, 487 00:37:21.960 --> 00:37:24.880 many people believe that the police would into the cottage with the intention to 488 00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:31.159 neutralize Dennis and Katia by any means. Dennis was laid to rest on November 489 00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:37.239 eighteenth, and Katia's funeral was the very next day. Olga insisted that they'd 490 00:37:37.239 --> 00:37:39.920 be buried together. Is that is what they would have wanted. However, 491 00:37:40.079 --> 00:37:45.440 Katya's mother vehemently objected to the idea. I don't think so, yeah, 492 00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:50.760 they're not buried together, okay, because I have seen their graves and their 493 00:37:50.760 --> 00:37:53.920 headstones, so they weren't they weren't that good together. Now they really were 494 00:37:54.199 --> 00:38:00.599 together. Discussions were had with people from the village and the school about who 495 00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:05.119 was to blame for this tragedy. Because Katy and Dennis both liked to post 496 00:38:05.159 --> 00:38:08.599 things all over their social media accounts, many believed that social media should be 497 00:38:08.639 --> 00:38:15.239 censored or even banned. Allegedly, one of Dennis and Katya's teachers knew about 498 00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:20.639 their toxic relationship and even tried to seek help for them. Despite seeking help 499 00:38:20.679 --> 00:38:24.400 for them, nothing really was done. This teacher said about Dennis and Katia 500 00:38:24.519 --> 00:38:28.760 quote, if I could have gone there, entered the house, took them 501 00:38:28.800 --> 00:38:31.639 by the hand, they would not have resisted. Honestly, that's my opinion. 502 00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:37.199 You know who's to blame is Kati and Dennis for teens. They were 503 00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:43.039 young teens in love and they made some poor choices and it's very sad the 504 00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:47.519 result. But pointing the fingers that everybody else really right, right, it's 505 00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:51.519 just not fair, and then they did make their own choices. Yeah, 506 00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:53.719 I think this teachers feels really bad because she was like, you know, 507 00:38:53.760 --> 00:38:58.679 they just didn't know what to do and I tried to help them, but 508 00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:01.960 no one came. And I do feel bad if Katteo was actually beat but 509 00:39:02.079 --> 00:39:07.239 there are people she probably could have reached out. That's true. But I'm 510 00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:09.360 not blaming. I'm not I'm just saying in the end, I mean, 511 00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:13.400 it's for this very sad story, That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I'm 512 00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:16.960 not fans of teens, but it's very sad story. Yes, it is 513 00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:22.119 a very sad story, just because it could have ended so much differently. 514 00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:24.760 Yeah, and I do believe in redemption. And they were young, Yeah, 515 00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:30.000 they were young. So many felt like we have been disgusting that this 516 00:39:30.000 --> 00:39:34.480 could have all been prevented if they had received help from someone. They also 517 00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:38.280 felt that the shootout was done us and Katy's way of asking or pleading for 518 00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:43.679 help, because nothing hasn't done us in his life in the perfect life, 519 00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:47.960 Okay, it shootout is as a cry for help. As a cry for 520 00:39:49.039 --> 00:39:52.599 help, you know, they should have been given a better way to maybe 521 00:39:52.760 --> 00:39:55.960 get out of the cottage or something. People are saying, I mean, 522 00:39:57.000 --> 00:40:00.760 you know what, hindsight is so shy to you. Oh, this should 523 00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:04.559 have happened I mean, when the ship's going down and he's got guns and 524 00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:07.920 shooting, right, he's got to be considered a threat when he's shooting at 525 00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:13.440 the police. Olga broke her silence after the death of her son and posted 526 00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:16.880 a status online to express the grief she was feeling. She wrote, quote, 527 00:40:16.960 --> 00:40:22.280 you died too early. Our pain cannot be expressed in words. Sleep 528 00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:24.800 my dear son, you were out of pain. We keep the memory of 529 00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:29.159 you in our hearts. I am missing you madly. We terribly miss you. 530 00:40:29.320 --> 00:40:32.599 End quote. I know. And while Dennis had done some terrible things, 531 00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:37.760 Olga just still loved him very much. That's a mom and she wanted 532 00:40:37.800 --> 00:40:39.119 to help him to the last moment. She was ready to go on there. 533 00:40:39.800 --> 00:40:45.599 You kids need to cut this shit out. I mean, I know, 534 00:40:46.039 --> 00:40:50.840 Okay, this is crazy boy. The story of the teen lovers was 535 00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:55.480 made into an opera called Dennis and Katya an Opera an opera Seriously Yes. 536 00:40:55.760 --> 00:41:00.159 It followed the story of the teens, questioning why they would post their final 537 00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:06.800 moments on the Internet, and explores how society reacts to these sort of tragedies. 538 00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:10.760 It was written as a role play where two characters kept switching between the 539 00:41:10.800 --> 00:41:15.920 different roles. Each role shows how different people reacted to the events as they 540 00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:22.800 unraveled online. And no one in it actually plays Dennis and Katia, but 541 00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:27.679 instead they're friends, family members, neighbors, journalists, and they showed different 542 00:41:27.679 --> 00:41:32.599 perspectives from interesting. Yeah, the message the oppera was trying to convey was 543 00:41:32.679 --> 00:41:37.280 people put so much of their lives on the internet in order to get an 544 00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:42.079 audience. Yep. The creators took a unique approach with the opera. As 545 00:41:42.480 --> 00:41:46.440 the teens had streamed online, they decided that rather than having a conductor like, 546 00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:49.960 it was just different. Like, instead of having a conductor, the 547 00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:54.760 musicians and the singers would have earpieces to move the story. Alonge was just 548 00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:58.159 different. I mean, I've only been to one opera in my life. 549 00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:02.360 I would like somebody that would go to the opera. If Motley Crue had 550 00:42:02.400 --> 00:42:06.159 an opera, I would go. I've been to an opera at the met 551 00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:08.320 in New York City, so fancy. Well, it was a school trip 552 00:42:08.400 --> 00:42:13.400 my daughter with so it was an organized activity. It wasn't anything I did 553 00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:15.559 voluntarily. Well I guess it was voluntarily I went, but it was fun. 554 00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:21.280 It was an interesting experience anyway. I mean, it was interesting the 555 00:42:21.360 --> 00:42:27.639 opera one the Fedora Generally Prize for Opera in twenty nineteen. Residents of the 556 00:42:27.719 --> 00:42:32.199 village are still shaken by the events that transpired I November fourteen, twenty sixteen. 557 00:42:32.679 --> 00:42:37.320 People are still uncertain on whether the police killed the teens or if they 558 00:42:37.320 --> 00:42:40.559 had committed suicide, and there are many social media accounts in honor of them 559 00:42:40.960 --> 00:42:46.039 to continue their memory and spread awareness so others can get help. And they 560 00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:53.159 is the end of my sad story of young kids are dumb, I know, 561 00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:57.840 and they just oh man, so young. I know. It's just 562 00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:00.679 sad to me. Their parents can a man gin No one of my kids 563 00:43:00.679 --> 00:43:05.760 doing you know what I mean. I would be like I make jokes about 564 00:43:05.920 --> 00:43:09.440 teens and all that, but it's really really sad. There were other other 565 00:43:09.480 --> 00:43:15.760 ways, you know out Yeah, it just went to extremes, right, 566 00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:19.599 Like I went from like zero to sixty, and like you know, there 567 00:43:19.679 --> 00:43:23.360 was no taking a breather trying to figure things out. You know, it 568 00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:27.519 just went by. Like you said, they were almost like playing the role 569 00:43:27.559 --> 00:43:31.840 of Bonnie and Clyde like it was some sort of cool game game. Yeah, 570 00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:37.679 but the reality is their choice was it forever choice? Right, which 571 00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:43.199 is really sad. 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