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Sports the Jets, Fox Sports fourteen
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WAMS, Welcome back time to the
ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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We've already had a couple of great
conversations with Steve Rivera, who's on his

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way back from LA who he's covering
the Cats, and also Reggie Geary gave

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us some of his insight on the
game. I got Greg Hansen here as

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a guest host today and Adam and
He's gonna go into breaking news. This

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his Eye on the ball, breaking
news on Fox Sports fourteen to fifty.

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So the first news I saw today
coming out of the NFL Pro Bowl,

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Son Reddick was just traded to the
New York Jets for a traditional draft pick.

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Your thoughts on wow, you know
anything that happens in the NFL anymore?

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I mean, guys, just you
know, I mean, Saquon Barkley's

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playing for the Eagles, right,
So that's all you need to know about

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about any of that. I don't
understand the cap stuff, so yeah,

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yeah, so yeah, no,
it's you know, uh, just the

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guys. You know, it's it. They just jump around and it is

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what it is. So you just
wait, wait for the dust to settle,

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find out where these guys are,
and then draft your fantasy team and

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it's all good. Some college basketball
news. Sienna is hiring former Syracuse stand

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out Jerry macnamara head coach. You
know when those guys that we saw playing,

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we were already old when they were
playing another another coaches. It wasn't

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wasn't he on the on the national
championship team right twenty years ago? Yeah?

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Yeah, the yeah, no,
I it's it's it's nuts. I

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did that that. Anytime I hear
something like that, that's where my brain

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goes, like, tells me how
old that I am. Some more college

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news n c DOAA president he's aiming
to ban all college profits, right,

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weird about that the other day?
Yeah, which yeah, all right.

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Also Oregon State defeat and Notre Dame. Yeah or say women, right,

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did you see any of the game? Did you watch the last two minutes?

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They're big girl Reagan Beers. She's
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yep, yep along those lines because
I've got it on right here, because

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I saw this score come up,
but South Carolina unbeaten. South Carolina is

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only up four on Indiana. There's
sixteen seconds left, I think in Indiana's

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at the free throw line, so
she's got some time. But it was

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a two point game with about a
minute left, and so this would be

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this would be about as massive and
upset as there could be. Right,

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Yeah, the women's tournament's usually chalk. Yeah it is. It's starting to

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change, I think because there's more
parody. All right, she missed the

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first one, so it's still seventy
eight, seventy four. And the NBA

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news Draymond Green the other night,
he was tossed three minutes in for arguing,

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which left Steph Curry frustrated and winning. But you see Steff kicked the

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chair. Yeah, he kicked the
chair. Wow, Well, how hard

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is it to play with a guy
like that? Dude? Did you ever

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any of your sports play with somebody
you just said, I can't deal with

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this guy. Yeah, when you're
younger, you know, you did have

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guys like that. But Dreymond takes
it. He does, he does.

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But you know, and I watched
I saw the clip of when he got

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tossed, and he's like he just
wouldn't shut the hell up. Just stop,

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dude, just stop. And he
can't help himself. And he's got

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a TV commercial where he's talking about
being a better guy and having second chances.

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I'd love to know what is the
record for getting tossed from a game?

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How early in the game. But
the earliest anybody's ever been tossed from

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again, I'm pretty sure within a
minute. Yeah, I'm not sure.

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You probably received Wallace or something.
Yeah. I know a coach has been

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kicked out before tip off because he
confronts and officially had problems with And I

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remember seeing I can't remember who,
but I remember seeing you're out before before

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the game even started. Okay,
some baseball news. The reigning NL champs

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scored fourteen runs in the third inning
last night, the d Backs pouring it

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on the rocket. They did.
They did fourteen runs in one inning.

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Who do they play Waterloo in the
Colorado? Wow? But still fourteen runs

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in a Major League baseball game.
I mean, come on, in an

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inning? Just one hit after and
not a bunch of home runs, just

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one base hit after another after another
after another. In high school, yeah,

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just one after another. I saw
the I saw a clip that showed

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all the hits and they were just
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field singles, opposite field singles for
fourteen runs. That's crazy. They're still

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not going to be the Dodgers though, No, they don't have the personnel.

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Yeah. Yeah. Today in MLB
there was a there was a fight

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between the Brewers and Mets. Already
already he's already fighting. Reyes Hoskins,

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the former Philly uh slid into Jeff
McNeil. He took exception, bench was

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cleared and on the first home game, basically we had a braw. I

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was watching that game and I missed
that. I was I was watching that

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game and and I and I missed
it. Wow, okay it's and it's

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their opener. It was there because
the Mets didn't. They didn't the game

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yesterday got postponed, so it was
their opener. And they're already getting in

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a fight. Holy crap. Yeah
no, I mean, come on,

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guys, you gotta calm down.
There's some contentious issues, I guess because

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Hoskins played in the NLS with the
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Also is some news the Braves place. They're starting catchers Sean Murphy is one

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of the best catchers in baseball,
already on the under list after one game

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oblique tightness. And then there was
a guy for the Braves. Yeah,

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the Braves were playing the Braids were
playing in the Phillies today, I think,

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And I didn't see who it was. One of those guys took a

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swing and the next thing you know, he was headed to the dugout.

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And I don't remember who it was. One of the Waves who won their

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starters, and you know, he
hurt himself on a on a on a

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swing. But I didn't see who
it was. Carlos Stanton four times a

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year, you've that, And so
I I don't know who it was,

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but I did. I did see
that, and I I didn't applaud,

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but I'm not going to say that
I felt bad either. So all right,

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Uh that was that was pretty much
what I saw. Well, there

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was oh, let's say, let's
take this call, all right, Higher

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on the air and I on the
ball. Okay, how you guys doing

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good? Howard? What's up?
Man? Hey? You know I don't

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listen to the guy, I mean
the breaking news. You got to talk

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with Steve And after I kiss mister
Hanson's butt here in this call. You

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got to have him and I got
to have a breaking news because this mature

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people, because it's like Greg,
when I was kissing your butt earlier.

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They were saying, you know,
about a year ago, I loved listening

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to Greg is the man with the
personals on the Star. And I actually

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had a relationship, my dad and
me because we knew the Hatfields who hired

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this is we're talking twenty twenty five
years ago, because I hired Steve out

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of New Mexico. And I go, yeah, I like Greg Hanson too,

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this is twenty five years ago.
And they go, well, he

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does personals, Hatfield said, and
here listen to this Greg, And of

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course you're a shill for Utah.
If you want to name Utah, Greg's

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your man. Nothing compared to Jay
on the Dodgers. Well, well,

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the thing because I've been seeing your
articles in English to say, for you

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know, Ivan newspapers are really out. I it was for five years,

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but you always find a way to
interject Utah sports. You know, guilty

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as charge, but you don't have
to go there. Of course, why

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we tried to get Josh pass their
job? Yeah, did you hear that.

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Yeah, Josh called and we and
we were working on getting Josh an

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interview over. You did Utah State
and come on, but but Utah State.

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The biggest story ever out of Utah
was when Majeris had Utah and he

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lived out of a hotel. That's
all I want to remember. Stayed in

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that hotel many times. But but
but but anyway, I'm disgusted. You

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know, I'm going to go top
of the list. Charles Barkley gets on

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and says, oh, I like
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he's jaded because he's a big man. No following Boswell, the two Bees.

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I'm disgusted with their play. And
he's gonna have tim. He's gonna

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have to, I think, come
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transfer, he's he should never be
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Yeah, Boswell, of course,
the six foot ten bollow. You know

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he's got to get himself in shape. He's gonna never play in the NBA.

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Well he's not an NBA guy anyway, So right, but kJ and

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and of course I'm waiting for the
OKAC because I didn't think I play,

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because I'm thinking I'm watching the Suns
in Oka. See this is the breaking

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news. The greatest player on earth, the Joker in Denver, he made

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he he just sung their props praises. We beat them twice on their home

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court, the Nuggets. All right, all right, okay, so we're

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we're we're gonna be scary. But
it's been a slow start, and you

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know, I've been pretty pretty perturbed
with the Suns and a lot of Suns

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fans after that, that disgusting loss
at San Antonio. Well they've got they've

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got time. Oh yeah, well
you gotta win, all right, Hey,

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guys, have a great Easter resurrection
weekend. That's a lot. Let's

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talk about Donald's free throw shooting.
God, you know, well, the

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thing is he missed six in a
row that he front rimmed. How do

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you not make the adjustment? You
know, if you're going to miss it,

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then miss it on the back rim. You know, I don't.

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I didn't understand that he finished shooting
the only two you hey, guys,

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ever below that word Joseph blairer at
Aaron Gordon at forty I remember Aaron Gordon.

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I didn't really, I don't remember
Joseph Blair being a terrible free throw

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shooter. Wow. I do remember
Aaron Gordon. I mean his his just

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his delivery was so whack. I'm
like, you're a basketball player, how

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do you not have a better free
throw shot? Yeah? Well yeah,

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okay, let's take this call.
If you just if you just called sorry,

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we missed you. We'll keep an
eye on the on the button.

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Give us another try. You gotta
you gotta turn that off there. Oops.

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Oh, I know what we're doing
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have to make in a game?
No? I was never much on it.

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The last actual basketball team I played
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got a story about one. Okay, let's go coming back from spring from

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Christmas break. Three guys were late
and got kicked off the team for a

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game against Sacramento State, and they
activated me to have enough players. Wow.

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And they put me in the game
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we're blowing them out and we're ninety
eight. And I got foul with like

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a minute ago, and I made
both found shots. Well, look at

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you. One hundred points. Is
your one hundred percent free throw shooter in

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your career? Yeah? Wow?
Sports information director yelled at me, said,

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you ruined up my stats. Oh
yeah, because that accident as an

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extra little space because to have you
on thousand percent. Here we go,

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let's take this call. Hi,
you're on the air and eye on the

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ball. How's it going today?
What's up? Ryan? Was an interesting

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game? You know, I was
going to text you. I was going

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to text you last night to stop
texting me. I think they're going,

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I'm sorry, But you know,
I mean, if you look at his

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game plan, I think it worked
well. But if you don't make shots,

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that doesn't help the game plan exactly. And and I you know,

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I mean yeah, I mean we
had tons of wide open shots, you

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know, but if you're not going
to make him, I don't care what

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your game plan is exactly. And
it's and also too, it's amazing how

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rate coaches fans are the next day
exactly. You know. The thing that

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the thing about your getting back the
shooting to me, you know, people

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want to break that, breaking down
analyzing you didn't do this. You know,

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those those basket, those those easy
inbounds baskets and all those things,

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all the things that you want to
talk about that game. But if you

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make some shots, you win the
game. And it's just as simple as

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that. I mean, it goes
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five is pretty amazing. Yeah,
yeah, no, as simple as that.

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You don't have to you don't have
to change the program, you don't

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have to change your recruiting, you
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systems. Who can make some shots, make some shots when when they matter,

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And that's what it was. And
also too, you know, I

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don't I would not be surprised if
Boswell's not here next year. I just

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what do you think, Greg,
Because that's it. That's sort of like

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a big elephant in the room right
now, isn't it. You say,

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almost everybody's thinking about that. Who's
who would be their point guard? Because

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yeah he is yeah yeah yeah modern
basketball, Yeah yeah yeah, he'd run,

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he'd run the point and and that's
what I think people want, and

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people want to see Jay and Bradley
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But you know, and in time
and said, well, Colin is only

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eighteen, he'll be he'll be fine. I mean, he's he's he's a

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good player, but he just I
don't know, I don't know what what

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what went wrong there with him on
the days he's yeah, because he's really

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he's not there when he's on enough
to make a difference. You know,

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the time is not good enough for
no. Yeah, no, I'm sure

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they're going to go into the transfer
portal and they'll find a few because you

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know, we really don't need a
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a wing man who can shoot,
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that every year, We've been saying
that since Selene Stodamayer left. Yeah,

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well, you know, I mean
in the three spot, who can shoot?

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the with the European guys we had
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many, I'm sure it's harder for
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in the nil so they're not going
anywhere. Well, Moroscos can shoot,

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but can you do the other things
he needs to do to get on the

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court, right, because I mean
they have guys, but they they you

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know, they can't get on the
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We don't see him, We don't
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have no clue, right what he
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also also too, it's going to
be interesting to see how many, you

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know, if someone like I don't
know if all over the sides. I

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think he has one more year he
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that doesn't he have doesn't he have
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know, he's got another year if
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he wants was then a thing.
He might want to just go make a

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living somewhere, you know, you
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sure not going to make it in
the NBA. No, No, he's

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not the upper tier your euro league. We're to make two grand to five

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hundred grand. He's the secondary,
a third tier of euro League where you'd

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probably only make one hundred. Yeah, he makes more than a hundred here.

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Yeah. Yeah, well you know, at least we'll be able to

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move on to the last part.
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Bay baseball nowt yep, going to
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of the game seven o'clock tonight u
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walk off, going to walk off. Yeah, very cool. Yeah,

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interesting, Hey, talk to you
later. He thanks A buch Man.

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Brian and I coached at Saint Gregory
together and he started texting me last

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night, and I'm like, I
don't why they get text messages from anybody

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right now? And I told you
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all right, Rick, and he
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can send. All right? Where
are we at? Are we out of

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here? Oh? Gosh? Okay, all right, God, we went

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on, we went along. Okay, we're gonna come back. We're going

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to call call Scott Thompson. Uh, we'll take some time with him,

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see what he thinks about what he
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And also he coached at Rice in
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more I don't remember anyway he was
in he was in the Ivy League.

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the Ball on Fox Sports fourteenth fifty. I'm your host, Jay Gonzalez.

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My partner Steve Rivera will be back
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line earlier, so if you missed
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up on the podcast tonight when that
gets posted. I've got Greg Hanson in

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studio and on the phone. We've
got Scott Thompson, a former assistant in

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Arizona, head coach at three stops
in major college basketball, and somebody who

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still lives here in Tucson. So
apparently you love living here, Scott,

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but you're put having to put up
with Arizona fans right now after a loss

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in the sweet sixteen. You know, another tough one for us. But

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we're where are your thoughts right now? On where the what we saw?

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Just what what did you see last
night? Well? It's always I mean

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when you talk about Arizona fans,
Arizona fans are the best and they're experts,

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their expectations are high, but we
uh, you know, every game

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we got to go out and play
super and especially right now. Is the

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most disappointing day of any team in
Division one is when they lose out in

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uh the NCAA tournament and specifically the
Sweet sixteen. So I obviously disappointing to

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lose the game, and I wish, as we all do, wish we

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could have kept going. But it's
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it has been. And you know, the I guess the frustrating part

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for fans, And we were talking
about this with with Steve Rivera. A

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lot of us thought and I don't
know, you know, they had they

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had the talent to you know,
to at least get to the final four.

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Maybe they weren't going to win it
with you know, Yukon and Purdue

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and how good those guys are,
but you know, they played well enough

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during the course of the year where
you felt they were worthy, but then

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they also played at times where they
were not, and those one of those

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and I'm not going to you know, I thought they played decent except for

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they couldn't shoot the ball last night. But you know, throughout the course

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of the season, What did you
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same way. I mean, I
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there's a bunch of teams out there
that were really good, that could get

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to the final four and be that
type of team. But the consistency is

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the big thing, and that's the
you know, unfortunately, but consistency is

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when you're playing teams, you're going
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You're going to see different things than
you've seen all seasons, different defenses,

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different uh players, different sizes of
players. And you can play great teams

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back in December, but it's it's
just a different game when you go out

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there and play now, and that's
why you see the upsets. But that's

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why there's a whole lot of really
good teams still in the in the in

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the dance, in the well.
It's not the Sweet sixteen anymore, but

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it's there's a lot of good teams
left. After you went to the final

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four at Iowa and then you didn't
get there the next few years, was

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your reaction from the fans similar to
what it is here. Hey, Greg,

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you've been around since we started way
you know, when when we first

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came back in the eighties and you've
seen it, and I was I don't

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know where I was looking movie in
the in the daily start to day or

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somewhere where all they went down,
and they're talking about first round exits,

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second round exit, sweet sixteen,
the lead eights and whatever, and there

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has never been a time that anybody's
happy. I think the thing is we

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always have these expectations that we could
do better. And that's the part.

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So it answers to your question.
I always how about this one. I

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go way back to I was assistant
to Digger Phelps at Notre Dame and we

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go to the final four and we
have Lambert and we have some really good

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players. Well, the next year, we were ranked number one in the

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country and we get beat in the
Elite eight by a team from Michigan State

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with a guy to the name of
Magie Thompson. And you know what,

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nobody knew. They knew they were
good, but shoot nobody. And you

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know what our fans were. I
mean they were because we were in the

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final four of the year before.
And you know what it was that that

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year? It was what did we
do wrong? What happened? Yea?

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And so so I tell you,
anywhere you go, you've got these this

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thing. And that's the thing about
fans. If your fans don't have expectations

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and don't think you should be that
next win more. Uh, you know

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what, that's what makes Arizona Arizona. Well, you know, and you

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just said, you just use the
word you know what did you do wrong?

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Sometimes you don't do anything wrong and
the other team just comes out and

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plays better than you and beats you. Now, for Arizona did wrong last

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night? They couldn't shoot the ball. It seemed like they did most everything

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else right. They could have won
the game if they just shot a little

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better. Is that harder to take
when you know that it's kind of on

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you that that, you know,
if you had just done this little bit

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of thing better, you might have
you know, it might have been different.

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Is that Is that tougher? Yeah? It is. But one of

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the things that it's very confusing this
time of year is when teams come out

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and they have the different and switching
up defenses. And I'll tell you what,

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that's what made Loot so good.
And we did it to try to

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get ahead back when when I was
here, and I'll never forget two thousand

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and one in Minneapolis and Loots switching
up the defenses on Shrzyzewski and so forth.

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But that's what it took to get
to the Final four. And you

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see that now. You see you
know, Oregon switched up those defenses on

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us and last night they were switching
up defenses and things. It's just completely

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slows down the game and it's not
the same flow and it's not the same

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fast pace that you see in normal
it is it it's just this time of

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year, people throw different things than
you've seen and it's not easy. Had

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you seen Clemson before this season?
Uh no, Clemson. Clemson has not

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been on my radar, greg And
but when you know there are six ranked

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team acc everybody looks at the you
know, the research triangle and uh shoot,

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I'm one of my best friends is
Steve Forbes at wake Forest, and

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I was hoping that he would do
it. But you look in that league

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and it's it's hard to pick out
Clemson as being you know that good.

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But again, going back to even
last year's teams Florida Atlantic, San Diego

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State, you don't know who's going
to be in the final four. We

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had ready geary On earlier and asked
him this question, you know how he

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watched a game as a player or
a coach. He said, he watched

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it as a coach. I'm presuming
you you know, you probably watch these

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games as a coach. Do you
coach the games when you're watching them?

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You know? Do you say I
would be doing this or I'd be doing

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that? How do you look at
that? You know, I don't,

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Like I said, I could come
down and I say, okay, you

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know what, they're in his own
or you know what, they're in a

407
00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:22.359
they're in a match up in one
defense, or they're in a you know,

408
00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:27.680
they're doing this, they're dropping their
their guards on the post and defensively,

409
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so I can tell that, but
I don't. I don't. I

410
00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:36.240
don't do anything like try to coach
or say they should be doing this or

411
00:30:36.279 --> 00:30:40.319
whatever. I just, you know, I guess I've been trained to recognize

412
00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:44.559
that I've been out of coaching long
enough that I don't try to act like,

413
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Okay, they should be doing this
and whatever. And I'm a big

414
00:30:48.119 --> 00:30:52.759
fan of Tommy and I you know
what, it's like, it's like anything,

415
00:30:52.839 --> 00:30:56.440
you know what, I'm not there
every day I'm not there with these

416
00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:00.160
guys. I don't you know,
Hey, I don't know what's going on

417
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:07.240
with Nil or transfer portal or anything
with anybody. But I'm telling you it

418
00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:12.799
is a more complex environment than it's
ever been, right, and so there's

419
00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:18.759
a lot of I mean, who
knows what all is going on anywhere with

420
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:25.000
any team right now in college?
Yeah, from a coach's perspective, when

421
00:31:25.000 --> 00:31:27.279
you were in your third year as
a head coach at Rice, what didn't

422
00:31:27.359 --> 00:31:33.119
you know that we could probably see
might be the same with Tommy? What

423
00:31:33.200 --> 00:31:37.880
do you have to learn what you
know three years in? That's a great

424
00:31:37.960 --> 00:31:48.839
question. That's a great question.
You know, every year you pick up

425
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:53.240
something new and something different. I
mean, and you got to keep bringing

426
00:31:53.319 --> 00:32:00.519
in really good players. And you
know what the advantage that all these coaches

427
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:02.880
have had in those years was.
You know, I knew when we brought

428
00:32:02.960 --> 00:32:07.640
him in his freshmen they were going
to be around for four years. And

429
00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:12.680
now you don't have that anymore.
And you know what I mean, I

430
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:17.440
looked at this year. I thought
Larsen really improved this year. And I

431
00:32:17.519 --> 00:32:24.000
thought I thought Ballow really improved this
year, and and and then and then

432
00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:30.119
you've got guys that are just one
year guys. Yeah, and so it's

433
00:32:30.200 --> 00:32:36.519
just so different Greg, from those
years back then. I mean, how

434
00:32:36.559 --> 00:32:38.480
about that, I got I got
one for you. When I was at

435
00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:43.160
Rice, I had a player that
was on my bench. Didn't play a

436
00:32:43.200 --> 00:32:47.160
whole lot, but he was.
He was just one of my players,

437
00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:55.920
and he ended up being a governor. How about this. The governor of

438
00:32:57.079 --> 00:33:02.279
the state of Virginia was on my
bench. What's his name, Glenn Youngkin.

439
00:33:06.759 --> 00:33:07.799
If he would have told me he
was going to be governor, I

440
00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:14.440
would have played him a whole lot. But now now, now, now,

441
00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:19.000
how about this? Though that team
had had nineteen straight losing seasons,

442
00:33:19.200 --> 00:33:24.519
and also we're going up against Arkansas
with you know, forty minutes of hecking,

443
00:33:24.839 --> 00:33:30.599
yeah, and all that stuff and
old remnants of FI slam and jam

444
00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:35.160
or whatever. So yeah, I
learned a whole lot during that time.

445
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:40.640
Greg fired as coach. Maybe they
want you back. They dis named somebody,

446
00:33:40.680 --> 00:33:45.640
they just they just I was hoping
that one of my former players would

447
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:50.599
have gotten a job, but they
just named a new coach. Well,

448
00:33:50.640 --> 00:33:52.480
Scott, how about this? How
about this? How about all the coaching

449
00:33:52.599 --> 00:34:00.319
changes out there? All these yeah, I mean, it's amazing. Yeah,

450
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:04.400
Andy Anfield, You've got Kyle Smith
going from Washington State to Stanford,

451
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:07.000
you got, you know, all
these things. And then Greg was over

452
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:09.960
here trying to get Josh Passner the
job at Utah State when he was on

453
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:16.719
the show Monday. That's interesting,
you know what I mean, Somebody to

454
00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:22.159
me, somebody would would be smart
at picking up Josh just because going back

455
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:28.039
to Greg's he's got he's learned a
lot and he's got a lot of experience.

456
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:36.320
But how about how about you know, Caler Perry at Kentucky. How

457
00:34:36.360 --> 00:34:40.519
do you go out and get somebody
better than Cali Perry and they are getting

458
00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:45.920
after him and he's done a heck
of death. That's why I think a

459
00:34:45.920 --> 00:34:52.119
lot of these these coaches that have
been around are retiring just because it's just

460
00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:54.320
such a different environment. They just
don't want to deal with that stuff for

461
00:34:54.400 --> 00:34:58.599
sure. All right, Scott,
we appreciate the time, thanks for joining

462
00:34:58.639 --> 00:35:02.079
us on short notice. Good good
stuff, good insight, and uh hope

463
00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:07.679
to see around any time. Guys. Will be interesting. It's gonna be

464
00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:12.199
an interesting the next week or so. Yep, you'll be exactly that.

465
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:14.639
That's a good word. All right, thank you, Scott, I appreciate

466
00:35:14.679 --> 00:35:16.760
it. Thanks, thank you.
All right. That was Scott Thompson,

467
00:35:16.840 --> 00:35:21.000
form Arizona coach, former coach at
we figured out the last one he was

468
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:24.199
at. He was at Bryce,
Wichita State and Cornell, so a lot

469
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:28.119
a lot of coaching chops there for
that guy. One of the nicest guys

470
00:35:28.119 --> 00:35:32.760
around. Yeah, yeah, yep, yeah. So, uh he was

471
00:35:32.800 --> 00:35:37.199
here in the lute early days.
Okay, we're gonna take our last break

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and then we're gonna get one last
guest. Matt Mulebach will join us.

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522
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Mulebach who's gonna give us his insight
on what a what we saw last night,

523
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Matt, and then be a little
bit of where does Arizona go from

524
00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:22.079
here? So you know, give
us some of your initial thoughts on this.

525
00:39:22.239 --> 00:39:23.760
You know, we'll here we are
again with another with a lost in

526
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:29.880
the sweet sixteen at a time where
you kind of thought Arizona was maybe putting

527
00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:34.239
it together a little bit. So
tell us what you think. Well,

528
00:39:34.280 --> 00:39:37.519
I mean, it's it's always disappointing
when you lose, right, It's it's

529
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:42.280
a it's a gut punch when you
lose in that tournament. And I think

530
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:45.440
it's also a gut punch when you
have a you know, a higher seeded

531
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:51.360
team, which Arizona often does over
the years, and it's it's hard,

532
00:39:51.400 --> 00:39:57.119
man. It's that tournament is unfortunately
the way college basketball is set up.

533
00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:01.079
You know, the tournament says a
lot about the season, and you can

534
00:40:01.119 --> 00:40:05.800
have a great season, and which
they did. You know, they won

535
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:10.320
the last pack Pac twelve League championship. Ever, you know, they had

536
00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:15.480
a really great I thought Tommy Lloyd
did a fantastic job of really two things

537
00:40:15.480 --> 00:40:19.280
this year. One retooling the lineup, and I thought, you know,

538
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:23.239
he was really reflective after the loss
last year and thought, Okay, I

539
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:27.960
gotta I gotta work on some things, get my team to work on some

540
00:40:28.000 --> 00:40:30.800
things. Maybe a little bit of
different line up and he did a great

541
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:32.599
job of that. I thought.
I thought he really kind of got tougher

542
00:40:32.639 --> 00:40:37.480
and better defensively. And as I
said, I love the fact that they

543
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:40.159
scheduled all those tough teams. I
thought that got I'm sort of battle tested

544
00:40:40.960 --> 00:40:45.119
and so a lot of great things, right. But at the same time,

545
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:49.159
I would also say that, you
know, he got to the sweet

546
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:52.920
sixteen. And I've always said,
I don't care you know who you are

547
00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:57.360
unless you're sort of back in the
sixties, you know, UCLA Bruins or

548
00:40:57.400 --> 00:41:00.599
whoever was, or the ninety one
you and of the Rebels. If you

549
00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:06.400
get to the sweet sixteen, it's
successful, and you know you're in a

550
00:41:06.400 --> 00:41:09.320
good spot right there. You're only
two away from from sort of history of

551
00:41:09.360 --> 00:41:12.599
getting to a final four. They
didn't do it. I mean, it's

552
00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:16.679
frustrating they I thought they. I
thought what hurt them the most, Jay

553
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:20.400
was just they got off to such
a bad start. I mean, those

554
00:41:20.440 --> 00:41:22.719
games, when you get off to
a bad start, the pressure of those

555
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:28.599
games being the favorite, they just
were crawing back the whole game and they

556
00:41:28.760 --> 00:41:31.320
just could not They just couldn't get
over the hunt, you know. And

557
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:36.800
and I thought, that's what kind
of doomed them, was that first first

558
00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:40.000
seven, eight, ten minutes.
Yeah, you know, I being in

559
00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:45.320
Arizona fan, I'm used to the
bad stuff. I can see it coming

560
00:41:45.360 --> 00:41:51.079
and I feel it. And you
know, I told we had reggion earlier

561
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:53.679
like we did last week when you
were on, and I felt like it,

562
00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:57.920
you know, in that first five
minutes, it felt like a loss.

563
00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:00.559
To me. It felt like the
kind of game they lose. I

564
00:42:00.039 --> 00:42:02.719
thought they could still win, right, I didn't think that the game is

565
00:42:02.800 --> 00:42:07.320
lost, but well, it felt
like that the things that were happening were

566
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:10.480
the kinds of things that happened when
they lose a game like that. Yeah,

567
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:15.800
and and and I think, like
like with any of those games,

568
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:17.559
right, Like I talked about the
pressure of it and so forth. But

569
00:42:17.599 --> 00:42:21.679
I give them a lot of credit. Man. They fought. I mean

570
00:42:21.760 --> 00:42:28.039
they really fought through some some some
bad shooting, some some bad basketball at

571
00:42:28.079 --> 00:42:30.360
times, but some good basketball too. They really fought hard, man.

572
00:42:30.400 --> 00:42:35.280
They And I'll say this like,
I'm not trying to dis defend any of

573
00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:37.519
it, you know, Like I
said, they didn't play their best at

574
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:39.679
all. And but Clemson, I
don't know what the record was, but

575
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:45.360
it's almost identical to Arizona's. Like
there's this I think there's this feeling probably

576
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:49.599
from around the country, is you
see a six mixt to Clemson and you

577
00:42:49.679 --> 00:42:52.920
see a two next to Arizona and
you feel like it's Arizona versus you know,

578
00:42:53.039 --> 00:42:57.719
South Pointing High School. Like it's
not like these teams. If you

579
00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:00.920
walked away from that game, Winston
had the two best players on the court.

580
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:06.719
They're big Guy Hayes. I think
it was Hayes and their point guard

581
00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:10.000
Hunter were the two best players for
forty minutes. And so we have the

582
00:43:10.000 --> 00:43:14.159
two best players during those forty minutes, you're probably gonna win. I mean,

583
00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:16.400
they are very, very good teams. They beat Alabama this year,

584
00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:21.159
they beat Boise State, they beat
North Carolina. They lost the Duke by

585
00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:23.440
a point at Duke, like a
couple of weeks ago. I mean,

586
00:43:23.480 --> 00:43:28.000
Arizona beat Duke by a few you
know, at the beginning of the season.

587
00:43:28.400 --> 00:43:30.119
It's not like the spread of these
teams, like I said, is

588
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:35.559
some enormous gap and you got to
hang your head because you just laid an

589
00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:38.719
egg against some horrible team. A
team is good knowing and maybe, like

590
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:42.440
I said, they didn't play their
best, and that's why they ended up

591
00:43:42.480 --> 00:43:46.440
with the loss. Do you see
any someone who's been around basketball as closely

592
00:43:46.440 --> 00:43:51.119
as you have for all the years, do you see anything mechanically wrong with

593
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:59.639
Caleb loves jumper. That's a good
question, you know, the one thing

594
00:43:59.800 --> 00:44:04.239
I would think with him when I've
seen him shoot it. Well, that's

595
00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:07.840
a really good question, Greg,
because it's It's something that I thought about

596
00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:10.159
midway through the season, because I
remember seeing him in the summer last year

597
00:44:10.159 --> 00:44:14.000
and it looked perfect when I was
watching it, you know, and they're

598
00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:16.440
kind of doing some workouts and open
gym, and I thought, this guy

599
00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:21.639
can absolutely shoot her. I couldn't
understand, you know, the percentages weren't

600
00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:24.719
as good the last couple or the
last year, especially in Carolina, and

601
00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:30.559
I thought that there was some inconsistency
in how he shot it. It's funny

602
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:35.480
you asked that, and I think
I think that was partly maybe why sometimes

603
00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:38.079
he had some ups and downs with
it right. And I will say this

604
00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:42.440
too, like he's a volume shooter. We know that he's going to take

605
00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:46.280
some bad shots, and if you
take some bad shots, you're probably your

606
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:50.719
percentage is going to go down.
And I what I don't understand Graces.

607
00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:54.320
That's why I'm almost not really sure
how to answer it, because the last

608
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:58.599
six games he just he really struggled
and shoot the ball. You know,

609
00:44:58.639 --> 00:45:01.039
it's and I thought he shot it
really well before that, you know,

610
00:45:01.079 --> 00:45:05.760
he was he was up almost as
close to forty and like I said,

611
00:45:05.760 --> 00:45:08.159
for a volume guy, that's a
pretty good number. But the last six

612
00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:15.119
really struggle. You know, you
you you witness firsthand the famous bad shooting

613
00:45:15.199 --> 00:45:19.000
night that Arizona fans know about,
you know, watching Steve Kerr struggle in

614
00:45:19.000 --> 00:45:22.760
that final four game. You know, shoot or shoot right, and you

615
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:25.039
know a lot of people saying stop
shooting the threes. Even I said that

616
00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:29.239
stop shooting threes if you're not going
to be making threes. But you know,

617
00:45:29.960 --> 00:45:32.920
is the mentality keep shooting because it's
got to turn at some point,

618
00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:37.559
or do you do something else?
I mean, what you know, you're

619
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:39.079
kind of between the rock and a
hard place right there, because you think

620
00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:42.719
they're going to at some point start
going in and then they never did.

621
00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:46.000
What do you do? Well,
that's a great question. I mean,

622
00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:50.119
when you're out there, I mean, on the one hand, the tightrope,

623
00:45:50.159 --> 00:45:53.920
right, you don't want to lose
confidence. I felt like last year

624
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:59.880
against Princeton, they got really hesitant
to shoot, and that's why they didn't

625
00:45:59.880 --> 00:46:02.320
make shots. And they and the
guards were not great at getting to the

626
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:07.079
lane. You know, Clemson did
a good job of of you know,

627
00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:09.639
it's the old saying, they just
packed the paint. And when Arizona went

628
00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:15.559
on those runs and when when Clemson
went man, you know, Arizona had

629
00:46:15.559 --> 00:46:17.840
some success. When they went zone, they literally just packed it and they

630
00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:22.320
were you know, I'm not saying
they I think they did a pretty good

631
00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:25.000
job. Arizona did trying to get
looked. They got bollowed some touches late.

632
00:46:25.880 --> 00:46:30.800
They tried to get it inside,
tried to you know, penetrate the

633
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:32.159
zone and so forth. It's not
easy like those zones. You know,

634
00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:37.039
you got five guys, you got
five guys in the paint. They're they're

635
00:46:37.199 --> 00:46:40.840
they're gonna, you know, they're
gonna give you some looks. And and

636
00:46:40.880 --> 00:46:45.159
I think, like I said,
the tightrope is this. I think Tommy

637
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:52.480
Wood does a great job of of
not playing scared in the tournament and and

638
00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:57.639
I think his teams will in the
future have success because they don't play scared.

639
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:00.480
Now The tightrope of that is,
if you have an off shooting night

640
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:05.000
like they did, and you keep
shooting them from there, you know,

641
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:08.079
it can shoot you out of it. But I do think in the long

642
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:12.079
run, Tommy's gonna and that's maybe
be a good segue to the future.

643
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:15.039
I was thinking about this the other
day. You know, I think John

644
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:21.599
Wooden coached for seventeen seasons before he
won a national title, and there's a

645
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:24.320
lot of coaches you could you could
you know, Brad Brownell, the coach

646
00:47:24.360 --> 00:47:28.280
for Clinton, is one heck of
a coach. I really think he's a

647
00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:32.280
fantastic coach. I mean, he's
coached twenty two seasons and I think he's

648
00:47:32.320 --> 00:47:37.960
made two Sweet sixteens, you know, And so from a prospective standpoint,

649
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:40.159
I think you look at Tommy,
He's coached three seasons, He's got two

650
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:45.400
in his belt already, and I
think the key for coaching and Tommy's just

651
00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:47.800
going to even get better. Like
I said, I thought he did an

652
00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:54.760
amazing job being reflective after last season, making changes, roster construction, you

653
00:47:54.800 --> 00:48:00.199
know, doing some things that I
talked to him about. It. Eight

654
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:05.320
left Arizona basketball his his the whole
year and as a fan, I think

655
00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:07.920
that's the main thing you got to
ask, you know, and you want

656
00:48:07.920 --> 00:48:12.440
from your coach as someone who's who's
willing to who's willing to adjust and change

657
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:15.519
and do whatever he can to make
the team work. He's an awesome dude,

658
00:48:15.559 --> 00:48:19.840
and I just think, I think, what the thing for him and

659
00:48:19.880 --> 00:48:22.480
all these coaches. You give yourself
chances, you know, you just get

660
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:25.280
there, you get to the Sweet
sixteen, you get to the Elite eight.

661
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:28.360
You got to figure a way to
get, you know, to that

662
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:31.800
second weekend, which he's done twice
three seasons. As I said, I

663
00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:37.199
think the first year that Houston team
was probably just better, and I think

664
00:48:37.280 --> 00:48:39.719
last night Arizona was probably better,
not much, but a little bit,

665
00:48:39.760 --> 00:48:43.960
and they just didn't have it.
But I think he'll keep getting better.

666
00:48:44.079 --> 00:48:45.199
I think his teams will keep getting
better, and I think he's going to

667
00:48:45.280 --> 00:48:49.480
have a ton of a ton of
success. Well, you're you're an expert

668
00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:52.880
on that, because as good as
Arizona was when you played for him,

669
00:48:52.239 --> 00:49:00.239
you ran into better teams in the
season seton better. Yeah, they were

670
00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:05.679
pretty good that night. We actually
didn't play that poorly, and you know,

671
00:49:05.719 --> 00:49:08.199
they they were a really good team. They had. You know,

672
00:49:08.440 --> 00:49:14.159
PJ Carlissimo was one of my buddies
right now. He's awesome, you know,

673
00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:15.679
and as good as Luke was,
PJ was too, you know,

674
00:49:15.719 --> 00:49:21.000
And so it's you get to those
the other I always think of this like

675
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:24.719
Andy Roddick, you know, one
of the most one of the best American

676
00:49:24.760 --> 00:49:30.880
tennis players in history. I think
he won one major. And there's an

677
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:36.800
there's an amazing article right now from
Gino Rima on the Athletic and it talks

678
00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:39.440
about, you know, even though
he's won I think ten or eleven titles,

679
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:44.119
he talks about how incredibly tough it
was. Every year. He's like,

680
00:49:44.719 --> 00:49:46.559
I don't know how we did it, and he had, you know,

681
00:49:46.639 --> 00:49:51.360
he had a to some degree,
and it's caught up now with every

682
00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:53.920
the women's game has so much more
parody. Back then, they didn't have

683
00:49:54.000 --> 00:49:57.239
the parody, right you know,
when he was winning them. But at

684
00:49:57.239 --> 00:50:00.440
the same time, he was talking
about how dificult every year, all the

685
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:07.079
things that could go wrong, and
to overcome those is just really it's hard,

686
00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:12.039
you know, And and it's just
that tournament is the ultimate. It's

687
00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:15.039
it's an unfair thing in a way, because look, I think if we're

688
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:19.760
all sitting here and we knew that
that Arizona had the best four out of

689
00:50:19.800 --> 00:50:23.079
seven like the NBA, and you
can play Climpson tomorrow for the game too,

690
00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:27.880
I think we'd all feel pretty good
about Arizona's chances. But you can't.

691
00:50:28.119 --> 00:50:30.920
And so you've got to develop,
you know, way, a way

692
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:34.960
to get through that tournament. And
I think they, I think they will.

693
00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:37.400
I think they're going to have some
really good success. You know,

694
00:50:37.480 --> 00:50:39.880
every coach has, you know,
they they they they get to the end

695
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:43.039
of the season, whether they've had
a great season, won a champion,

696
00:50:43.159 --> 00:50:46.480
whatever, they reflect, what are
they any thoughts on what types of things

697
00:50:46.519 --> 00:50:50.840
Tommy needs to kind of think about, you know, going into you know,

698
00:50:50.880 --> 00:50:52.920
going into this offseason season and into
the next year. You know,

699
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:58.239
from where you from where you sit, you know, I think I think

700
00:50:58.280 --> 00:51:01.760
these days again, because there's so
much movement on transfer portal and and ni

701
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:07.599
L and all this stuff that's going
on right it's it's just it's roster construction

702
00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:10.559
and how do how do I just
put together the best roster with you know,

703
00:51:10.719 --> 00:51:16.480
high character guys and the best players
possible. And I think he's you

704
00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:20.280
know, I really like the character
of this team this year. I thought

705
00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:23.519
they had a really high character team. You know, Greg, Greg and

706
00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:27.679
Jay you've both seen this. It's
like over the years you get kind of

707
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:30.599
one bad apple. Yeah, and
it's the old saying that can spoil the

708
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:34.440
bunch. And we you know,
we've seen Arizona teams no, maybe have

709
00:51:34.519 --> 00:51:37.199
a guy or too that didn't necessarily
fit. The great you know, the

710
00:51:37.320 --> 00:51:42.039
Richard Jefferson's of the world, and
you know the Steve kerrz and and some

711
00:51:42.119 --> 00:51:45.679
of the Damon Stoddam are some of
the great people you know Arizona's had.

712
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:47.760
So I think it's I think it's
great character guys, but at the highest

713
00:51:47.800 --> 00:51:51.639
highest level they can find. I
think you just he's going to try to

714
00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:54.840
find, you know, even better
players and and and to some degree some

715
00:51:54.920 --> 00:51:59.519
guys that can continue, you know, maybe you know, get a guy

716
00:51:59.599 --> 00:52:00.920
or to that can stay two three
years, right, I mean, I

717
00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:06.599
think the continuity. It's a hard
game right now because it's it's weird.

718
00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:08.760
And you look at Coach call at
Kentucky. You know, he struggled.

719
00:52:10.320 --> 00:52:14.159
He's won one title, you know, with with the way of doing it

720
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:16.079
with all the young guys, he's
but at the same time, he's had

721
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:22.519
some really early exits and I think
it shows two things. Lack of continuity

722
00:52:22.760 --> 00:52:25.960
and young guys. That's a hard
it's a it's a hard way to navigate

723
00:52:27.000 --> 00:52:30.679
that tournament yea, and the season. But I think I think that's what

724
00:52:30.800 --> 00:52:32.760
I think, that's what Tommy's going
to work on, you know, and

725
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:37.039
continue to work on himself, you
know, and what can he do to

726
00:52:37.079 --> 00:52:40.400
tweak this or that get a little
better, and and roster construction. It's

727
00:52:40.400 --> 00:52:45.880
a it's a huge piece of it. Matt has always good stuff and you

728
00:52:45.920 --> 00:52:49.840
know, I'm kind of like disappointing. We won't talk to you again until

729
00:52:49.880 --> 00:52:52.559
next basketball season, unless you want
to come and talk some beach volleyball maybe

730
00:52:52.559 --> 00:52:55.679
in the summer. Right, I'll
talk any sport you guys want to think

731
00:52:57.760 --> 00:52:59.719
happy. I love to be on
your show. I really appreciate it,

732
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:02.559
Matt, do appreciate it. Make
make sure the Big twelve fires was their

733
00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:07.840
analyst. Yeah, thanks Greg,
I And by the way, I appreciate

734
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:10.280
the uh I did. Jay.
I don't know if you know this.

735
00:53:10.360 --> 00:53:14.920
I did a Utah State game this
year and Greg gave me a couple of

736
00:53:14.920 --> 00:53:21.320
tidbits pretty it was a pretty actually
a pretty cool school and and amazing basketball

737
00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:23.599
fan base. And it's amazing how
many good teams are in Utah Utah,

738
00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:29.280
Utah State. They've got the new
school. It just went Division one right

739
00:53:29.320 --> 00:53:32.199
now, and BYU is obviously really
good. And it was it was cool.

740
00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:36.079
So thanks Greg for that. All
right, Matt Tanks a bunch,

741
00:53:36.639 --> 00:53:38.760
take some time off and we'll get
back to you at some point. Appreciate

742
00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:43.519
it, all right, we got
to get out of here. Greg,

743
00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:46.800
Thanks a bunch for this week.
It was fun having you here. Uh

744
00:53:47.000 --> 00:53:50.639
you know, like old you know, old times. Man, it was

745
00:53:50.679 --> 00:53:52.320
great. We do appreciate it and
help us helping us, good guests in

746
00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:55.559
the whole bit. Thanks. Maybe
Steve will get sidetracked and I'll be back.

747
00:53:55.599 --> 00:53:58.800
Yeah, yeah, well you know
what, You're always welcome, dude,

748
00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:00.880
You're always welcome, Adam, thanks
a much for today. We're gonna

749
00:54:00.880 --> 00:54:05.039
get out of here the pub.
The podcast will be up tonight if you're

750
00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:08.519
getting to the back to the just
getting back to the end of the show

751
00:54:08.559 --> 00:54:12.880
here and Steve should be back on
Monday. So thanks for being here all

752
00:54:12.880 --> 00:54:14.360
week. We'll see you on Monday.

