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My hands are trembling, And as we walk towards the doors of the
hospital, I pull out my ma kai A and I send a shaky message
to Skiff, bad news about an at hospital. Bob and Carr sand and
I can breathe out. Put it in my pocket. Sawyer, Sawyer,
I trust you, I trust you, and I trust my squad. I
don't think Bob is in a good way right now. I don't think I'm
in a good way right now. My heart is pounding. So I'm just
gonna tell you this right now. I think Skiff absolutely needs to know about
this. He's way closer with Natalie than I've ever been. I just don't
know if I can handle my shit talking to somebody like that right now.
This is a this is a huge deal. It's a huge deal, and
I want you safe. I want you safe. You need to figure out
exactly who she works for. Ye no skiffs your partner mine? Yep?
You think he's too close to her? Do you think he's going to be
blindsided if the truth is not something that he likes. I'm not sure.
What I do know is that he has he's capable of a lot more empathy
then I think I could be in this moment. So I must look at
this through a sense of logic and do this methodically and not look at someone
as a criminal or a machine. At this point, if you zoom in
on my hands, you can see I'm just kind of the I've worn down
one of the hangnails on my thumbs, and it's some kind of picking at
it, and it's starting to bleed. I hand you a little piece of
almost like paper card stock. It's completely blank on both sides, and I
take out of my pocket a small from the same material, a little folded
paper crane. Let's destructive ways of fidgeting? Yeah, yeah, are you
offering it to me? I'm offering you a blank piece of paper. Seems
like I have a couple of these in my pocket. I just take one
of that random and handed to you, okay, and I start kind of
like bending in the corners. I'm not really making a pattern, but I
just sort of bend it in kind of like you do with like the paper
from a straw, you know, like you did it when you were a
kid at a little tables, fold it in, full, it back out.
I'm nervous, Sawyer, Yeah, me too. That I want you
to know that you can rely on me, even through that, and and
I think at this point I feel like I can rely on you. So
I'm worried about about Bob a little bit because I see myself and him,
and part of that it maybe because he threatened to kill me, or is
it? Yeah? Oh yeah, Although that that felt that felt like that
felt like fear and bravado and just generally being an asshole, and I wonder
where that comes from. I'm sorry that he put you through that. I'm
sorry you're having to go through so much at this point. We're all frustrated
right now. But the woman in this room put me in a position where
people are trying to kill me. So she's setting me up to take the
fall for ye whatever it is she's setting me up for yep. So I'm
angry too, YEP. I just want some answers. Absolutely, Yeah,
conversation with her can hurt. Okay, you want to head inside? Yeah?
Are you ready? Okay? And I look down and I see I've
kind of made a little kind of triangle. It looks like a nice siceles
sort of like, oh look I did. It's like a little little star
thing. That's nice. I'll show you how to fold the crane later,
if you want. I did this one enough. I'd love that. And
my wife, I've always thought how they do that, like in restaurants with
like napkins, like it's so fancy. I just want to wonder how they
make it look so nice. If you teach me that would be I'd like
that, of course. Yeah. I used to buy my nails as well.
Bad habit, bad habit. All right, Then we go and I
heading through the doors. I hold it open, And are you heading straight
for her room or are you stopping along the way? Are you talking to
anybody else? Do I have the room information? Yeah? Because I think,
well, yeah, she's LAPD, so absolutely you would. Okay,
I don't have to talk to anybody if you don't want to, Okay.
I know that I've got my badge on me just in case anybody does stop
me, but I probably, I think, in order to keep it less.
I think at this point Selma isn't myself. I'm a little aware of
how things can look with with police officers, with with LAPD, with people
that are on a mission. So I want this to look as informal,
almost as possible. So I go up to the front desk and I ask,
just to make sure, I'm sorry, could you could you direct me
to and what's her last name? Because that's me? Yeah, could you
direct me to that Natalie Amano's room? Please? Oh? Absolutely, And
she begins typing into the computer. Actually they're mostly analog now, they don't
rely on the computer, so she probably is flipping through a book and looking
through with her pen. She scans the page room three oh two. Okay,
just down the hall that way. Oh gotcha, thank you, And
I start heading that way. Oh, man, came. I start heading
down the hallway, and I'm guessing Sawyers, we're together down okay, Yeah,
I'm right there behind you. Smells like a hospital. It's it's the
same absolutely everywhere. You could walk into any any hospital and it always smells
the same. My shoes kind of squeak from the rain. On the floor.
As we walk, I'm digging my hands into my pockets and kind of
sinking into this jacket that's definitely a few sizes too big for me. As
we keep on walking, M and then I spilled it all over myself and
it was super embarrassing. But it turns out to you old and didn't even
remember. It was ridiculous. I think it's this room. I peep my
head in and I knock on the door. Well knock, that's I guess.
I guess, so, Hi, Hello. I wasn't sure if i'd
find you here or not. Skiff, Hi, Natalie, good to see
you, Good to see this is my my my friend here. Thought we'd
come have a chat with you also, mister, nice to see you.
Hey Natt. Hello, regular family reunion around here. I guess, so
l a p D party, Yeah, I mean it kind of seems that
way a little awkward, but you matter, if we have a seat over
here, it looks like, okay, great, I have a seat,
all right. I was just telling this story about how I embarrassed myself in
front of Holden, but he doesn't even remember, so I got away with
it. M. How long have we been talking? How long have I
been here? I came directly here after my conversation with Galen, and your
conversation with Galen was happening at the same time as them discovering me, so
I'd say probably it took them probably a bit thirty forty minutes, so I'd
say about thirty minutes we've been talking. Okay, seems about the right Okay,
I was I expecting to see you guys here likewise. Yeah. Yeah,
It's funny how things work out like that. But yeah, we just
been running around finding out some interesting things today and we're just curious, you
know, how some of it might be affecting our case. And actually,
Natalie, I think that's where I think that's where you come in. Okay,
yeah, how so I'm real quick. I'm scanning the room for obvious
places to put a listening device, and I'm just trying to see if I
can identify anything at a glance. Go ahead and roll observation that is correct?
Double ones. Wow. I don't know why, but you're just you
know, you don't find anything. So why is that? I'll let you
describe why, because as much as I'm trying to focus on this, I
just want to stare at her. So anytime that I'm spent not looking at
Nat and studying her face is just time that I'm distracted. Okay, Okay,
what? Yes? What can I say? Okay? I like you.
I mean I've known you for for some time. I know Skiff and
y'all have known each other some time. But I think we're gonna just need
some answers to some questions. If that's okay, This would really help us
in our investigation. Okay, sure, So, I mean I told you
pretty much all I could remember. Okay, you can remember, Okay,
Well, what I'm curious about is that there is some security footage of you.
It looks like you're entering a storage room, one of the back rooms
that has been accessed in some time, and it looks like you for some
reason, we're fiddling around with a terminal, and I'm just wondering what you
might have been doing in there. Uh when was this narrator? Do I
recall directly? Or was I able to see directly? I think you were
able to see directly. It was about shortly after she started working there,
which was shortly after Sawyer started working there, because they started together, which
Sawyer did we decide. I think forty fourteen months is what I think.
We said. Yeah, okay, so about fourteen months ago. It was
about around about maybe a year, give or take a couple of months.
May about fourteen months ago, so right after I started. Yeah, hmmm,
I don't I'm sorry, I don't know. That's so a long time
ago. Okay, okay. Were you ever called to do any sort of
reporting or observation in one of the back rooms for anything reporting? No,
not, not fourteen months ago. That's that's when I started. Okay,
Well, I'm just curious because it does seem like you spent some time in
that room, like you had a mission. There was something that you went
in that room for specifically do. And to me, when you spend some
time on a task like that seemed pretty focused. I mean, this was
fourteen months ago. I was probably just doing what somebody asked me to do.
That's when I just started. I didn't really have any tasks of my
own yet. What's this going on? Like I said, we saw you
on a security footage. Why were you looking at security footags of me from
fourteen months ago? Well that pertains my investigation, and I'm asking questions now
Natalie your name also came up with something that we have been trying to look
for for a very long time. And I want to know exactly what your
connection to the Tyrail Corporation is. Yes, what do you mean connection to
the Tyrell Corporation? I'd like to know that. Well, I was investigating
because you asked me to look into it. So I did. I have
no connection to the Tyrell Corporation other than the L A p. D and
Tyrel relationship. Were cordials made? It seems you made a bit of a
bigger footprint than maybe you had been aware of bigger footprint. Yes, I
was looking at the that that that project. M That's what they wanted to
know. What I was doing, what I was digging into, what is
going on? Maybe maybe maybe it would be best if we all saw that
evidence that you have. Sure, I mean absolutely, I think we'd be
able to pull that up the narrator. Am I able to get that on
my I'm assuming I probably prepped for it and you have. I think I
probably would have some evidence there at least at the ready to say, hey,
this is you all right, so take out man, okay, and
I pull up the video like you know what skiff. I like it straight
to the point, and then I turn in Natalie and I go, I
have no idea what's going on or what they're talking about. Okay, well
I don't either. That makes two of us. And as you play the
footage, I'm scanning it. I'm looking at it. Well, yes,
that's definitely me. I remember that shirt. I wore that one a lot
when I started. Yes, I see I'm going in here, but I
don't really remember this instance in particular. I was probably just doing what somebody
asked me to do. What am I seeing? You're seeing me approach into
a room. I walk into the room with purpose. I look around for
a second. I see the terminal. Then I walked to said terminal,
and then I put something into the computer have said terminal. I make sure
that this is on. I like touch the mouse a couple of times.
I look and see that it's done, and I go okay, and then
walk back out the way I came in. Now break this down for me,
Selma, she's an analyst. This seems like something she'd do as part
of her job. What makes this suspicious? What she uploaded? What was
it? This is our world space? We work here in that that's my
terminal. I would love for Sawyer to have a chance here. That's my
terminal net. Okay, I've had some things on my terminal today that have
been there since I started, Things that aren't in the standard LAPD package.
Okay, during software, okay, are you suggesting I started putting monitoring software
on your terminal before I knew it was your terminal since we started together.
Don't be ridiculous. It wasn't your terminal yet. I would like to do
a check here on insight yep, on me. Do you see yes,
to see if she's feigning exasperation or she's really doing it. Okay, okay,
let's see. I would like to push. Can I push twice?
Or now? You can push as long as you don't have a critical failure?
Okay, all right, take one and I'll take one more and I'm
not going to push yet. Wait a minute, I don't think I yes,
what are we waiting? I rolled three two's on on D twelve in
a row. Yeah that's crazy. Oh no, the first one was a
four. Okay, okay, cool, Well I took I took two more
stresses. I got one okay, one success. I am not going to
push yet because I don't think I realized the severity of the situation that I'm
in at the moment. Okay, So but I am absolutely shocked. It's
very very real, okay, and confused and a little alarmed. You probably
don't even need to, like you can see it on my face. But
also that I'm connected to a heart rate monitor, so I'm sure you guys
can see my elevated stats. Don't be ridiculous. We weren't even in that
office yet. How was I supposed to know it was going to be your
terminal? Okay, that's a good question. Is there a timestamp for when
that that uh what tracking program or whatever was installed? Is it? It's
about fourteen months ago. It's probably about like a week or two after I
started on the video. Oh yeah, okay do the does the video timestamp
match the upload stamp? Yeah? If there is one, ye, oh
death, it most certainly came from that USB and there's and there's no question
okay, yeah, I mean, like question the time stamps and everything match.
So yeah, okay, there's absolutely no question that that was the exact
time and that was the exact a carrier of the tracking software or whatever.
There's no question in your mind, in a question at all. Now,
how hard would it be for someone to plant that item on Natalie without her
knowing? So on Sawyer, you read me? Yeah, yep, I'm
clear. Go ahead. Can you ask her? I was directly above her
during that time period when you first started. Yeah, who told you to
install whatever it is you were installing? Well, okay, I'm not going
to throw somebody under the bus because I don't remember this. I don't.
I really don't remember this. But I'm not denying that's not that's me,
clearly it's me. But somebody must have told me, Hey, Natalie,
can you do me a favor? Can you go plug this in? And?
So I did that? And how many terminals did you access? Did
you access every terminal in the l A p D? What's the entire office?
Well, you can see me. I go right to the terminal that
I'm supposed to be going to, and then I put in the thing and
then I leave. What is going on? Who was your boss when you
started? Who is your direct boss? Oh? God? Who was our
direct boss? I'm oh, oh ship, I need to roll uh?
I oh? Probably is that probably doesn't take that long. Is that connections
or insight? We'll do connections, I guess for me, I got okay,
yeah, it would be like recalling who that was, I think,
Yeah, let me pull it up here. The Leonard Leonard Grippin, you
remember he was? He was He was the he was the tech person that
had been watching over. He used to stand there and he use the weird
tie. Oh the yeah, oh god, because he was like always off
the tie. Was he he knows a regular occurrence longer works there by the
way, Yeah, sorry, go ahead. Was it a regular occurrence that
he give you your your tasks for the day. Well again, I don't
want to throw him under the bus or whatever, you because I don't know
if he actually told me to do this. I don't remember this, but
he was the person of me. What you're excusing me of something awful.
We're asking questions following the evidence like we do. That's our job. Okay,
I believe you. I want you. I want you to know that
I believe you. Okay, but you need you need. You are in
the way of the bus right now, I know, But I've refused to
just put somebody else in front of it because it's convenient. I don't remember
anybody telling me to do this, even if they're going against the the LAPD
that we all swore an oath and worked for. Well, I mean I
would absolutely throw them in the way of the bus if I was confident that
they did it, But I don't remember. Well, so I don't want
to throw suspicially on someone else. Listen, like, we're not accusing you,
We won't accuse them either. Well, follow the evidence the whole way
we have to. Okay, well, he we don't want to get the
wrong person. Okay, Well he was the one that would you know,
he was like a sort of semi in charge for the person in charge,
you know, like you listened to him. If he told you to do
something, you did it right. Okay, Okay, okay, thank Natalie
wants more moment, and I turned to the other two. Did you pull
up footage from the rest of that day, like, follow Natalie around the
office the LAPD that day, see who she talked to? If I can
stand for a second, can so? Sorry? Oh sorry? Did you
pull up any footage of the rest of that day? Did you see who
she talked to, perhaps who she got orders from or higher ups or anything
like that, because if this is a plant job, like someone planted on
USB and told her to do it, that's what I would do. I
wouldn't be caught dead uploading something that I wasn't supposed to. I'd have someone
else unknowingly do it for me. And that's what I'm thinking happen here.
So if not, we need to pull up footage from the rest of that
day and see who she talked to. Fair enough, and I look at
Natalie, Skiff says, you're all right. But what I do know Natalie
is that we check everything. So Aar and I are checking everything. Okay,
it just doesn't look good. It just doesn't look great great, So
I understand that. Okay, Well, then I suppose we should leave both
of you to it, unless, sorry, you've got anything else we should
Uh who's checking you? That would be me and the rest of my squad.
I had a very strong feeling you'd say something like that. Of course
you say that it's your terminal. If she didn't, I was going to
it's my terminal. But we didn't know what was my terminal yet, did
we No? But who was in charge of the seating arrangements, did you
not choose your Did I choose my desk? Did you? I'll let you
decide. Frankly, I don't remember. Well I chose mine, lucky you.
I'm assuming everybody got to choose their desk. Well, if I chose
this desk by mistake, that means that I've been set up from day one.
Because I really like the light in that corner of the room. It
seems a little coincidental for me for my taste. Or you did set this
up from day one. You knew that someone would give it to me,
I would set it up, and then you would choose the terminal and then
turn around and blame me. So you're in the clear. Well, then
the question is who who would have known that that would be your place?
No one except for you if you chose it. I'm not sure I'm following
what you're saying. Are you saying that that Sawyer could have set this up?
Hold on, Yeah, terminal, that terminal you went to wasn't Sawyer's
when you went to it. No, it was nobody's yet. We weren't
even in that part of the office yet. We moved there about a month
in like right when we started. They went, oh, we've got a
lot of new analysts. We need to give you an office, you know
what, We'll take the office in the back. And they all moved us
in there, and I got to check my desk, and I feel like
most of us got to pick which one we wanted, which would mean that
Sawyer started with me, picked me, or somebody picked me to install this,
and then they told you which terminal it was on, and you chose
that terminal, knowing that you'd always have somebody to blame. What's your relationship
with Tyrell? Why are you the one? You're the analyst that goes every
week. You're the only analyst that works directly with Tyrell. Copy in their
database. That's my job description. It's not in your job description, no
more than it's in my job description. Why did they pick you to go
to Tyrell? Who picked you to go to Tyrell? Did you ask for
that or did somebody assign it to you? I didn't request it. It
was allocated to me after I washed out of the program. That wasn't my
first pick. Did you do you remember who allocated me? You can roll
to connections to see if you remember. Okay, that means I don't I
don't know who allocated me. I just stay off into space and just do
it. Assignment. Assignment turned out for me too difficult to check with personnel.
That's not that's not necessarily confidential information. I'm already on it. That's
not wrong to scaff I'm not sure. Oh sure, that's right, that's
right. I don't have my thing in. Bob's already on it. So,
okay, you know what. You were very hesitant if thrown. He
went under the bus until he thought throw me under it. Well, I'm
thinking now that it made sense to me. It was very clear, and
I was panicking because you were blaming me. But is it? No one
blamed you. We followed. Okay, you're looking at me like I fucking
killed your dog, all right, so don't don't. And you are absolutely
accusing me. Maybe not technically so, but with your eyes. Selma's doing
a good job of playing it cool, but you aren't. And what am
I supposed to do? You're accusing me of spying for Tyrell. I whisked
my neck for you, all of you. I could have died. I
almost died. Why on earth would they come and hurt me if I worked
for them? That makes no sense. It would be a good cover the
rule. You know that, Natalie, I'm on your side. Okay,
yeah, it would make a great cover, just like this whole bullshit with
you blaming me. It would be a good cover as well. You are
correct about that as well. And Sawyer, you can't be You have to
be the goose and the gander here. What's good for her good for you?
We follow the evidence or the most logical conclusions, So spotlight points to
you. You understand, I'm not saying you're guilty either. I'm just saying,
what's your alibi. The thing that we all have in common, your
squad, Natalie and myself is that every single one of us has risked our
life and limb. Every single one of us has put ourselves on the line
try and figure out what the hell's going on, and that I've known.
I've known there was someone in the department leaking information for months and I've been
trying to figure it out. This is me following the threat. Is that
why you stopped coming into the office. I'm not answering you right now.
All right, let's look at this subjectively, take ourselves out of it,
put ourselves in the position of them all. If it were me, I'd
have a patsy. I'd get someone who didn't know to do the work I
needed done, so I wouldn't and no fingers would be pointed at me that
terminal. If someone knew who was going to belong to you eventually sawyer,
that would take you out of my consideration. Natalie, I think, honestly,
logically, sounds like you got played and someone used you as a target.
And I'm not saying that because you know I bought you pie. I'm
saying that because it makes sense. The less heat on the person who actually
is doing the mole, or who actually is the mole, the better for
them. So we need to find out who gave you that information stick and
if it's not them, who gave it to them, followed up the chain,
because whoever had it originally, that's your mole. I wonder if we
actually have any update on that bob Any news. I'm I'm having a conversation
right now with the with the office. I'll let you know since I have
an update. Okay, love ring help. Yeah, I don't have any
more questions. I just wanted to hear the answers. What we do now
is definitely figure out something that gives us a new lead. Natalie, I
believe Skiff, and I want to believe you, and I know you have
worked very hard for us. You've worked your ass off for us. We'll
figure it out. Who else knows this information? Uh? People in this
room? Who us? Scale and No tell him I'm not sure I'll be
here. I won't. I'm not planning on leaving until this is, this
situation is at least figured out, okay, and we have somewhere else to
go. Well, all right, I'm not sure if we got what we
came for, but and I look at Sawyer, this is it's not everything
we can get for now. So nat oh, you're talking to me now,
right now, the buck stops with both you and me. But we
need to figure out how to pass it on. I just said that I'm
not really willing to throw somebody under the bus unless I feel like it's probably
true. Well, let's make sure that we're probably sure about it. Then.
Well, I'm like eighty percent sure about you. I think. I
take out the paper crane from my pocket and I leave it on the windowsill
of the hospital room and I leave. Selma. Yeah, you need to
look up that footage from that day, not in the presence of Sawyer,
and you do it quickly before he has a chance to mess with it.
If he's going to he's the only one that does the Tyrrell job. He
goes there at least once a week. I understand. I know. I
don't want to. I understand that. To me, pointing that out makes
it look like, oh, you pointed the finger at me, and now
I'm pointing a finger at you. But it wasn't until you did that that
I started to really think about that. If there is one, he's the
only one that goes Natalie, You're correct. Only two people that knew about
that server had access to it that we know of. Wait, what do
you mean? Are you and him? Wait? What do you mean?
No, I'm saying, so you're new about the server before I told you?
No, no, no, no, no, no, no no
no. Who are involved with that server? Okay in any capacity? Okay,
that's what I'm saying. Okay, are you and him right now?
That's why we're looking for anyone else who had access, who knew Okay,
who could have given you that data? Stick? I'm trying to remember and
I'm just too stressed right now, I think to remember properly. I'm sure
the moment I came down, that'll just pop into my brain and be super
annoying. And I'll let you know when it does. Selma, I understand
you're just doing your job, but I'm just a human reacting at being accused
of some think terrible. I'm sorry I yelled at you. It's all right
and apology accepted. I'm sorry to make a blood pressure spike there, but
it's all right. Di'mon at least plugged in. I'm also to do my
job and thank you for acknowledging that at this point, and I stand up.
I have trust issues and I think I kind of give her like this.
Yeah, so Skiff, I'll leave you to alone. And yep,
I'm on it, and uh, I head out and I joined sawyer.
You you're going to stay here. That's not even why I originally came.
You promise. I had no idea about that. I promise. I came
actually where I'm sitting, and looks like you came here to make sure I
wasn't going anywhere before they arrived with all the questions. No, okay,
you want to know the reason I came here. I had a conversation with
with Galen before I came out here. Okay, and with what's happening in
the world. Yeah, okay, with what's happening in the world and the
new edict that's come down and the new information that i've I've received, This
isn't It's hard to do the job. And I came I'm here to I
don't know, maybe have you talked me out of it? Or maybe have
you talked me into it? But I was thinking about quitting, quitting the
being a blade runner, quitting the LAPD, the whole thing, because right
and wrong or not as easily discernible for me anymore, and I just needed
a fresh perspective. You cannot talk like that in your What if somebody heard
you? What do you mean you're talking about quitting? Because you can't do
you know, they might accuse you of being a sympathizer? Am I are
you? How close to human before you are human? It's that that old
boat problem, that ship, Yes, that how much robot do you have
to have in you? Before? I actually am a murderer for retiring you
a little? I guess that's why I came here. I don't want to
talk to you about that. Do you want to and to check on you?
Of course, make sure you're recovering, all right? You want me
to talk you out of quitting or talk you out of staying. I want
you to tell me what you think. Are you going to shoot me?
Why would you say that? Because I don't think that. Uh. I
think if I tell you what I really think, you would be put in
a very awkward situation. Considering you haven't quit yet, and I think that
I have, then I have my answer. I have my answer. Then
you don't need to say it. I know what you think. If what
you're going to say is going to put you in danger, then don't say
it. But that also means we might be thinking along the same lines.
I can't tell if this is an interrogation tactic or not. Just have to
trust me. I guess. Then I have to tell you something. Okay,
brother not here? Okay, and we're gonna switch scenes. Who are
we going through? Sawyer Selma Galen? I wonder, okay, we'll switch
to you too. I'm steaming, I'm steaming mad, steaming mad, steaming
mad. I'm kind of huffing down the hallway. I think when you catch
up to me, I am. I think I'm outside the same entrance we
went through, and I think I'm just positioned off in a way that looks
almost like I just want to take off running down like featureless corridor into the
rain. But I'm just standing there kind of frozen, just looking up at
nothing in particular as I rub the back of my neck, just waiting for
Selma. Do I I guess I look back? Or are you near me?
Are you behind me right now? Where are you just outside the entrance
that we came in through. I think that's, you know, towards the
spin are basically okay, okay, yeah, so yeah, all right,
I'm coming down the hallway and in my head I can hear, for some
reason, I can hear that really old Calliope song, that Circus song.
It's like that's just going around in Selma's head like these absolute clowns. And
I exit the hospital and uh, I go up to Sawyer. What'd you
think? I told you she'd try and throw me under. I told you
the second that we brought it up, that she'd single me out. Yeah,
I know, I'm the tyree aaison. I didn't ask for that.
Job. It was a signed to me, and I hate that company more
than anything. I would not work for those people. I don't believe in
what they do. And I don't understand why I would pull the thread of
this conspiracy. Why I'd be looking into a vary tricks, Why I'd be
telling you about owl models, Why'd be pouring over Tyrell data looking for inconsistencies
to share with you all? Yeah, just to be hanged by my own
mistakes. It doesn't make It doesn't make any sense that I would start down
this route if I was the person feeding information. It doesn't make any sense
to me whatsoever. Me neither. But we definitely need to find that footage.
We need to figure out who gave her that order and when, and
I'm sure there's got to be some kind of record of it, if I
know, If I know records, it's it's somewhere analog, digital or not.
I guess we may our way back to the Spinner. At this point
we have the timestamp. Yeah, yeah, if we do go back there,
we can probably pull all the footage for that day and see if we
can figure out where that drive starts its journey. Yep, yep, that's
our next step, all right, kind of shake myself a little bit and
head towards the car. Not that I really want to go back to the
LAPD, but sound like we have much of a choice right now. Yeah,
as you well, as you approach the spinner, you would say,
at this point, Bob isn't inside of it. He's gotten out. Is
his side is to you. You can see that he's not next the car.
Maybe he was pacing a little bit. It's got a note pad and
a pen, and you can hear him talking to himself, but it's it's
pretty focused and calm. You see him look over at you real fast,
and as he does, there is a cheapish sort of look. Without even
having a role insight, you would notice that it is embarrassment. But after
that moment of embarrassment, he goes back to looking at his had a paper
and you hear him go all right, well, yeah, I mean I
knew that, that's fine, but okay, okay, thank you. Hey
turned toward the two of you as you approach. You still have coms filter
on, by the way, I don't know if you knew. I'm sorry,
Oh god, oh, thanks, appreciate it. He looks over at
the two of you, and you would have heard his side of the conversation.
The things you would have heard him talk about from his side is how
long five years? And when he gets to you, he goes, all
right, I heard how it went in there. I don't know everything you
picked up when you were in the room, but it didn't sound she sat
an adamant that it wasn't hurt from my point of view. So let's work
off the assumption right now that it was someone above that set her task,
and even with the accusations that she was thrown at, you Sawyer. And
then at this point Bob looks Sawyer in the eye and goes, that doesn't
that's not an assignment of guilt. Even if you chose that workstation, that
work station could have been chosen before anyone sat down, and when someone sat
down at it it was them, or it was just something that was put
in motion beforehand. Well, we can only work off of what we know.
So I looked up this Leonard Griffin. He was with the LAPD for
five years. He was actually going to retire when you Lock showed up.
He was asked to stay on for onboarding, which he did. Do you
remember him he was, I remember him vocal person. I think you already
rolled for that. No, you don't, ye. Honestly, I spent
a lot of times in stacks of paper and data discs. Rather than memorizing
faces and names of the time. I always wore this weird time stood out
anyway, So I looked into that, and then the current manager responsible for
assignments and whatnot, this one you know, this one you know for sure?
Go ahead, Dared, Sorry was a ratty right he met him?
M hmm. Just for the sake of being thorough, I just asked for
some tertiary, high level information about her. But we all know her.
You've seen her. She doesn't stop talking. But she's good at what she
does. She's been there for fifteen years. So I mean, at this
point, it really comes down to if if Nat was directed to do this
thing when she first got in there, it does make logical sense that she
would just be following orders. It's what you do when you're fresh, when
you're sort of green, or when you're new to a place. It's going
to do what you're supposed to do. Her walking in and sticking that into
the computer, it doesn't necessarily make her guilty. That being said, and
at this point, actually I would like to roll for something if I could.
Absolutely after listening to the conversation between Nat and Sawyer and the time that
they all this sort of stuff, am I able to I don't know if
I knew Leonard Griffin, but I'm curious if me, thinking back, if
I would have ever considered them to be an odd I mean, I know
they were very quiet, they kept to themselves. I know that. I'm
not sure if I would consider them a suspect because honestly, who would have
told them what to do? Necessarily how far down the line was someone told
to do something? If that is the case. Yep. So I guess
after the information that I picked up while I was on the line, I
guess I'm trying to determine and if this person, you know, did they
So they put in for retirement. They're in for five years, and they
put in for a retirement. I mean that's pretty early five years in the
LAPD. That's not like and even for that, I mean that's almost just
like quitting. You're not going to get a big pension unless they came from
somewhere else first. So I'm trying to determine if it felt like this person
decided to leave very quickly or if it just seemed like the natural course of
things and they're not as likely to be a suspect. What do you think
you'd like to roll for that? I'm going to go for observation. I'm
trying to get into the head of this person from everything that I just listened
to. That would be insight, wouldn't it. Observation is what you've seen
with your eyes. Well, I know what I've been told. So at
this point, I'm trying to remember if I saw this person, if they
had about them yep, okay, but I don't even know if I remember
based on rolls. I'd rather roll for this before just making that decision,
Yeah for sure. So I'm gonna try and remember there one. Okay,
yes you do remember seeing them, but you make notes that they are pretty
much other than that stupid tie forgettable. Okay, all right with all right?
So then with that information can I roll inside. I'm because I'm and
just to put this out just so everybody understands what I'm thinking and where am
my my thought press a process going. I'm trying to see if this person
was in a position to get a load of money and was cutting and running.
I can reroll that three, right, I can't. You can reroll
the three and take a stress, all right, I'll go ahead and mark
the stress and I will reroll the three. Well done. That's an eight
for those listening. So a success. Okay. So, using your insight,
you decide to see if there has been a payoff for this individual.
How do you think that you do this? Do you look up? Are
you trying to get bank records or are you just trying to see if this
is something that you could deduce? Well, okay, uh huh. Considering
that even though a lot of technology is down to analog, what money is
important. So I imagine when it comes to bank records it's at least a
little bit faster, especially for the LAPD to be able to track some of
the stuff, at least on world. So I would have put in a
request before I was done talking with the LAPD about Leonard Griffin, and I
would have requested some information about some bank records, even if it's light,
any sort of transactions that would have been after they retired of a noticeable amount.
Okay, Because you have you chose to do insight instead of like tech
or anything else. There's a little bit of intuition involved in that. I'd
like to give you this in that you search for this payoff. This is
fourteen months ago. So remember the blackout happened like fifteen months ago, right,
So records are definitely being kept analogue now. But you're not going to
find anything that's odd here. You just have a total balance. But it's
pretty high. This balance, like it's a lot more than you'd think somebody
from the LAPD would have. And I think I'm going to give you that.
It is strange that they announced their retirement shortly after the blackout, which
on the surface seems like, yeah, okay, that's stressed you out,
you're done. Makes sense. But also if they got their payout right before
the blackout hit, then it's suspicious. Yeah, it's suspicious, all right.
So or if their payout was to be arranged after the blackout recovery happened,
then yes, suddenly their balance is bigger than the bank remembers and nobody
can prove anything, all right. So I'll turn to Sawyer and Selma,
and that would apply for anyone in the l A. P D. It
looks like Leonard Griffin from the information that was passing me. They've come into
a little bit of money before a blackout. Huh ok, more money than
what he would have been paid by the l A p D. It's a
connection, it's a thread. I think that that might be our next stop
is skiff company? Is the skiff going to come? I don't, I
don't know. I don't know, Bob, he's he's he's in there right
now, isn't there when we got there? Yeah? That was I guess
that's not too surprising, right, seems to have an affinity. I understand
that, but you know, we're out here busting our asses, doing our
job, and what what he just gets to like take a moment and just
go, We'll hang out with with someone who we might actually consider a suspect.
I'm losing it, Bob, I'm losing it. I feel like I'm
losing my shit. Hey, if he's with her, at least someone's keeping
an eye on her. I mean, I guess, I guess, but
I still found it. You know, at least I let him know,
like, hey, I'm at the hospital, your partner, the squad is
here. He did not even he didn't even Bob, can you drive us?
Can you just drive? Yeah, I'm going to get in. Did
I get an address of any sort for Leonard Griffin? I'm not sure how
much information I would even have on him outside of before. I think,
well, yeah, so in terms of before, there's probably not much.
And I'm gonna also give you that when the blackout happened and you were in
charge of rebuilding the database, and by you, I mean the tech team
was in charge of rebuilding the database, priority wasn't really given to the people
who work there because everybody assumed like, well, you know you're LAPD,
We trust you, and priority was maybe put in other places. So I
think it was entirely up to you as an individual to make sure that you
gave the tech people the form that gave all your information and YadA, YadA,
YadA. And so I think it's safe to say a significant portion of
the LAPD is left on filled out. Leonard is one of those. Sure,
I'm very conveniently you guys have nothing now, well, uh, there's
the billboard. That's a lead round me have billboard. Uh so, Uh.
The way that the network is set up is that it has a relay
point, and I was trying to figure out where that was, and best
as I can tell, it's set to relay to a one of those floating
advertisement things that does laps around a few blocks. They've used that as the
relay point, which is very clever. But okay, I remember that now,
geez, I feel like that was a month ago. Right, all
right, let's okay, I mean, let's let's let's head out. We've
got some got some more work to do. Oh yeah, I'm let me
get a hold of Galen narrator. I have a final question, actually,
something that's been on my mind ever since we left the hospital. Uh huh.
I want to know. I want I don't know what the look on
Sawyer's face was when he said it's not like I actually want to get back
to the l A p D. He ran his hand through his hair.
I want to know what he looked like when he said that, like if
he acts, if he actually meant it in that moment, can I can
I ask that or or can I ponder it? That's what I'm thinking about
right now, because I want to know, because there is this contested right.
You do your insight and you do manipulation let's go. Oh my god,
who the mental PvP this episode? I hate? That's my first good
role? All right? What am I? What am I rolling? An
insight? Insight? Yeah? You want to argue for advantage? I can.
I don't have any more resolve. I'm already stressed to the max here,
so I don't want. Well you one, but that was a couple
of episodes ago, right, so technically you would have once you take that
critical stress, you go back to uh full if I'm not mistaken, and
then you start over again. So okay, yeah, I guess I could
try which, Wow, gosh, how do I help me out here?
How do I do this again? Well, if you hit the push the
matrix and then the section for just the four because it's a weird sort of
matrix, Yeah, just the four, just one, it'll keep the D
e so oh god, I'm so sorry. It's the D eight plus D
ten or just the D eight, So it made just the dall this is
a whole lot for probably nothing. I'll just I'll keep that, ill say.
I don't figure it out. I just kind of let it do and
sit there. What was what was the question again? And I can just
give you at least what you pick up. So it was when it was
when we were heading out the hospital and we were making some I think chit
chat or something, and you you said, well, it's not like I
want to head back to the lapd, and you ran your hands through your
hair, and my first thought was like, because it's almost having well I'm
having I'm having some some having some episodes, but this this has been like
a trust issue, and so she wanted to look at your face and see,
you know, whether you're not. You were sincere about it, Chris,
to believe that exactly. I believe. I believe that people tell the
truth in idle chit chat all the time. So I was wondering, really,
like, is that is that true? Near as you could tell,
It's just every time he's in the lapd, every time I'm inside the walls,
I'm a bit of a mess and I only seem to relax a little
bit and we're not there. So that's I think that's the connection that you
draw, is that, like he I'm just very stressed out whenever I'm inside
the lapd. Okay, okay, got it, that's all. Alan,
are there, Roger, can you actually in center of the hospital. Can
you meet us at the LAPD like everything all right? Uh? No,
no, but I'll avoid pass it over for now. When we get there,
I'll we'll find in copy, all right, I say, let's get
going. Yeah, yeah, uh. I want to attempt to do something.
Yeah, what would you like to attempt to do? Once we get
into the car. I want to find a radio station that I guess I
would think is call me. Oh, okay, so I know where I
was at, and are you relieving stress? Is this like a sneaky way
to relieve stress? I'm trying to I'm trying to help them. I don't
have the ability to really do that, but I am. I am recognizing
my own shit that I just went through. H I also recognize that Selma
is where I was a little while ago. Maybe not as murderous, but
she's pissed off and Sawyer looks like a rabbit ready to run. So I'm
I think that I'm just trying to find something chill, maybe classical. I
don't know. I'm just looking for something. Okay, Yes, you can
do that, so go ahead and we'll just say that you do that.
You don't need to roll for that. But what I would like you to
do is roll observation at disadvantage. Selma, you can roll observation straight,
and Sawyer you can roll observation straight as well. Observation I got wow,
even at a disadvantage, Holy ship, disadvantage. Okay, as you are
getting ready to leave, you see Skiff and Natalie leaving the hospital. Skiff,
were you in a Were you in an L a p D Cruiser or
a spinner? No? Okay, so what did you did you just take
a cab? No? I take my vehicle, your personal vehicle? Is
that what we Oh? Yeah, because that's what we decided. That's what
we drove to the to the club. I thought you drove a spinner to
the club, but just like not obvious spinner, you parked it far away
way. Yeah, and then you guys walked. So okay, then that's
what I brought that. I would say, it's like incredibly rare for a
for a L a p D to have a personal vehicle anyway. Vehicles are
just super rare in this in this alt reality. Okay, so yes,
they get into Skiff's spinner. We all see this. Yeah, anybody who
passed the observation. You guys notice I don't think. Did your observations I
didn't roll? Oh yeah, I don't think. Yep, you can roll
and you can roll at normal, so no disadvantage. Yeah, okay,
that was normal. Yet you all see this? Yeah? Okay, So
if if I could try and set the scene here, yes, please do
please, I would like to cast wall of fog. I want to cast
Sinned because I'm going to ask him what the fun He's okay, So we're
we are in the air. I think at this point we'd gotten in.
I'd found something. It's some sort of synth classical. It's not great.
I'm not into music, but I'm thinking hopefully it'll calm them down. It
probably sounds like cat screaming. But we are. Oh, I got in
there, I think. Anyway, let's hope it's still loaded up here.
But yeah, anyway, Yeah, you're in the air now. The hospital
has like a specific section for the LAPD. I would imagine, so you
guys are in a like preferred parking type thing. Okay, I think that,
I'd imagine. Also, you know, there's since there is air traffic,
there'd be zones. So I'm trying to get out of that zone because
emergencies happen, vehicles need to come in. I'm trying to get out of
the way, and I think as I am pulling away, I'm shifting around
the side. Now I don't know if Skiff was parked in the LAPD like
special area or one of the other clo assume. So unless he says otherwise,
okay, I would say that we are up in the air aways when
we see it, I think it's it's noticeable because I doubt Natalie would be
moving very easily unless she's right. So I point and I think as everyone
else looks, just say, what the fuck? That's them, right,
that's Skiff, and that's that's Nip, That's that's definitely her, that's definitely
him. Yeah, I am going to pull the car into a spot to
monitor out of sight as best as I can. You don't have to really
like pull into a spot to monitor because they get me but out of the
way. Now I'm completely out of the like I'm like, I'm what I'm
what I'm saying is you don't really have time to do that. They get
into the car and they're leaving, So either you're going to yeah, you're
going to follow them, or you're not to follow them is the option.
Oh, I'm following them, okay, So I am actually going to get
below them to try and neicate even as much sight as possible, so I
can see them from down and back. I am against this. I'm gonna
I'm gonna let's repeat it out then. Yeah, I'll fop you on that,
Bob, I want out of the car. If you're gonna attempt to
follow Skiff and Natalie. You don't think it's a little odd they just left.
Oh, I think it's very odd. I think it's I think it's
foolhardy to place our whole vehicle next to them at this point. Well,
I want to be within eyeshot. I don't know where they're going, and
I don't neither eh or do I. I have no idea. That's the
second time I have been left out on the cold. I'm a partner today
and that doesn't feel good. Bob, I don't want to follow these people
at present. If you would like to be my guest, but I need
to do some reporting. I need to go back to my office and I
need to report this. It's been like two days since I've been able to
do that. I understand. I understand. I can't go on another wild
goose chase today. I just cannot. Okay. I am attempting to find
a place to put her down back to the hospital as quickly as possible.
Yeah, I'll walk, I'll yeah, well no, just call, just
call you can you can get a ride you It's just it's fine. But
I've got you understand. Some of this is our job, and I considering
what we've found, this is suspicious. Bob, hold on, hold on,
hold on, hold on. You're right, he took us ear piece
out, so unless you put it back in skiff, I'll give it to
you. Nope, no response. Okay, yeah, Sawyer, you can
join me back at the LAPD if you want. You can also go with
Bob on this. No, no, no, no, I'm sorry,
Sawyer, but you've got to stick with sam A semi trust you and Sawyer.
It's not that I don't distrust you, but it'll be safer you're going
without backup. I'll call Galen. Okay, sure, all right, I
am all out of the car. I will yeah, I will get down
to the closest parking area that I can to let them pop out and then
attempt to catch back up. Yeah, I was just gonna say, like
this has taken some time from them. Okay, all right, So basically
I will give you a driving role, skiff. Do you think you were
trying not to be followed or were you not really thinking about that? No?
I I would say that just based on being a cop, that I
would be aware of things, but I wouldn't be actively yep. You know,
in cop mode, I guess you know, like it's always on idle.
But it's like, you know, I'm not turning my peepers on like
super hard, but you're not also trying not to be discovered, is what
I mean? No, no, no, no, all right. I
would have assumed that they left and they were going to do going about their
whatever they were going to do, right, Okay, so that might I
assume Selma was going to do her fucking job, do my fucking job.
Yeah. Oh so you ju well, baby, you can do driving.
I think just a driving role, Bob sounds good. Actually, I'm glad
because I put points in that. Yeah, and that's why I have That's
why I'm one of those rare people that has their own ride. Yep.
Because you can drive really well. Because I can drive yeah, okay,
hopefully now I'm going to fail it. So so this is a contested flat
normal maneuverability role. It's not technically contested because he's not trying to hide from
you. But I'm just trying to figure out how like if he's all right,
okay, oh, I'm okay, I'm rerolling the floor because I know
I'm wow. Wow. Skiff only got one as well. Yeah, I'm
rolling D ten in D twelve, I'll get one success. Yeah yeah,
yeah. So for those listening, they both rolled one critical fail and then
Skiff rolled to nine and Bob rolled a four. But Bob's pushing it.
Go ahead, Bob, you guys match the fucking rolls nine and one,
nine and one. Oh it's haunted, you can't it. I mean you
could reroll the nine, but that'd be very, very risky. So yeah,
I say, you catch up, you know, you know, kind
of like the way that he drives, uh and you Yeah, you're gonna
about an observation for stealth to see if I noticed them following me. Yes,
I think that we should do that. So Bob, you're doing stealth,
and this is crazy, Bob, you're doing stealth at advantage because you're
you're a police officer. But skiff, you're also doing observation at police officer
because you're always on idol. So it's two advantage roles against each other.
Yep, yep, yep, yep. Okay, what should what's your stealth
that, Bob? I think it's Fred Bob's versions only a C. Mine's
a D. If I could punch stealth, i'd be great, but no,
it's it's a D six. I'll go first. Then. Yeah,
okay, oh buddy, oh come on, oh body, Oh buddy,
you're fucked. I'm not seeing you, all right, all right, all
right, that's three successes for observation four though, okay, hold on,
hold on, hold on, I would push this. Yep, you shouldn't,
but you would. I'm going to roll all of them again, I'm
out right, Yes you are, you are. You're not gonna see me
following him, right, god, Bob? All right, here we go.
So that only call one resolve to do that. Would you like to
push any of those again? For just another resolve? You can push two
of them five in the four if you want to keep the sick dude,
you're pushing D sixes man, just like the carrot on the stay could push
again. Absolutely, you might even guess. Okay, so actually have a
breakdown. It's not Yeah, I'm I'm so close. I'm relishing. This
is the closest we've gotten to b VP and I did. Yeah, it's
really good. I'm super into it as well. Okay, so I don't
have the push button for this one, really, so maybe go back to
the original push and that one and just push the two. All right,
I'll do this. We'll know that you've got on the two D six is
all right? All right? All right, so if we if I can
roll two yeah, box cars pa. So technically, technically though, that
is two sixes, So you have a two versus the three. So really
what happens is that your your roll is six six four at the end of
those pushes. Yes, that is correct. So you so they cancel each
other out, which means that technically, I'm sorry, what I have a
three? Yes, you have a three and he has a two. So
the two's cancel each other out, which means leaves you with one. Yeah,
So just so that we can roll play it properly. It's not like
you're Superman. It's like we have two supermans going off, you know,
like they're like, all right, but you happen to catch it, so
all right, go ahead. So now wait a minute, does that mean?
Does that mean that I I don't think you know he knows. So
I've got him in my sights. Yeah, you're following him, but he
knows I'm there. Yeah, but you don't know he knows. I wouldn't
know that, now, okay, okay, I will I'm gonna while driving,
and I just just so everyone visually understands what's going on. Bob is
doing this. Bob is old lady leaning forward looking up at the car.
So I imagine that even even if Skiff didn't recognize the car, he would
see the very white shirt and face looking if he just went back casually.
I'm trying to do my best. I'm not a sealthy person, and I'm
I'm going to contact Kalen. Yeah, hold on before you do that,
just so that I can also add to your immersion. These vehicles in Blade
Runner don't really have like a top roof like we're used to. The whole
thing is glass, so we're literally seeing him hunched looking up and they're like,
there's no cover for him. Whatsoever, because the control panel for driving
is in the middle between you, and then if you decide to do manuel,
the wheel comes out in front of you, and then there's some really
cool controls that you can see in the first film. But yeah, so
technically I should have been above him. I should have been above him,
but then you wouldn't have been able to see because the floor is solid,
right, So yeah, but you would have been to see on your radar.
But okay, Galen, come in. This is Kayla. All right,
this is kind of a weird situation. I'm going to send you my
location, but I'm currently tailing skiff in that I know that's going to be
a bit of a surprise. I don't want to I don't want to pass
everything right now, but I'm wondering if you can back me up. Yeah
yeah, uh, Roger where all right? So I'm we've just left the
hospital. I'm not sure what our destination is going to be. I am
I'm holding back and I think i'm he seems to be holding a street path,
so I'm hidden from him. But what I'll do is I will give
you continual updates for our destination so you can sort of start coming that way
just passed me with me tells all right, I'll I'll contact you if anything
changes. And I'm sorry I'm putting you in the dark here a little bit,
but I'll explain everything understood. All right, I'm about and I'm going
to continue following. Okay. Uh. In that case, I think I
think we'll switch to us zeke okay, okay? And where are you?
Where did you take us? As soon as I noticed that I was being
followed by Bob, I'm going to turn a Natalie. We have a tail?
What? Yeah, it's my partners, No need to worry, but
they really don't believe me. It's not about believing you, it's about being
a detective. It's about not believing anybody. Right. So change of plans
is, if you feel comfortable with it, we're gonna talk in my car.
We're gonna talk right here. Oh okay? Is it safe to do
so? Honestly I think so, but I'm i'd say ninety percent sure.
But it's either that or we try and lose Bob. And even though I
feel like I probably could, that raises so many questions. My plan laid
out is we have this conversation, we go, we get ice cream,
get back in the car, Okay, go back to the hospital, fanone
else it's your favorite ice cream spot okay, and you really really hate hospital
ice cream or something of that nature. Okay. This is going to sound
crazy, but it's not about not trusting year. It's about not trusting anybody.
I don't think I can have this conversation in an lay car, Okay,
So I'd rather have it at the ice cream shop, even though that
could also be dangerous. I feel like it's less dangerous. Okay, I
can do that. Okay. I want to share a banana split. Yeah,
I love banana. You can have the cherries, not a fan Okay.
Where are we going for ice cream? Is it your favorite place?
Now? That's a good question. Do I know this area because we're in
in sector one or no? The hospital I believe was like right next to
the L A. P. D. Okay, Okay, then you're very
familiar with the area. Yeah, yep, Okay, So yeah, I
find an I find a nice, nice uh ice cream shop, that's uh
if you uh. The reason why I know it is because if the owner
is tending, he'll put a little rum in there for you if you want.
Oh, perfect, and I absolutely want that. Definitely should not be
having that, but I want that because I'm stressed a little bit. Yeah,
okay, okay, so they've taken our order, I'm clearly still a
little bit anxious, and I'm looking around waiting, I guess for your partners
to just like jump through and go gotcha. Uh So what am I expecting
him to come in here and like them to watch us. They'll probably be
watching us, but they can't hear us. Okay, I check out my
piece. Okay, you promise, but I promise, Okay. I don't
want to see any harm come to you. Natalie. Well, it's funny
that you say that, because I think I might have be in a little
bit of trouble. Save it for the ice cream shop. Okay, that
was a good idea, all right, I'm assuming it's not that far away.
No, it's not that far okay, yep. So we can be
at the ice cream shop. Bob rolled pretty well to be matched you.
So you're gonna arrive about the same time, Bob. So if you choose
to kind of like enter in and watch, that's totally up to you.
And if you want to try to get close enough to hear us, then
you're gonna need to roll but for now, Oh and I'm setting up all
doors in the corner booth all that ship. Yeah huh okay, uh okay.
What so you order banana split with cherries. I'm just curious and with
rum in it you to share and then I get I get a shake okay
as okayis all right? Okay. So I'm looking around the have an ice
cream shop and I am you know, I'm I'm nervous still, I'm waiting
for the food to come out. But nobody's really around, like we've been
served and they've left. Uh. And somebody came to visit me in the
hospital, somebody from a Wallace corporation. Now they that's where I went to
university. Where's Wallace? Did you get a name? Uh? No?
But I have a card. It's not with me. I'm stupid and I
didn't bring it, but it is under my pillow at the hospital. They
have a title. No, it's something weird on a card like it doesn't
really make much sense. I don't know what it is, some sort of
like engineer which could mean anything, does have anything to do with memories?
I don't know. She didn't say. She Yeah, dark hair, white
coat, like blue eyes. Yeah, do you know her? I just
met her? Okay, Okay, well she's sort of she sort of was
trying to ask me about what happened with Tyrrell. She knew a surprising amount
as she does, and I didn't say anything. I didn't tell her anything,
obviously, but she said, you don't have to tell me anything.
You can just listen and consider what I have to say. Mmm. And
I am considering what she has to say. You me, bull Tiger.
Okay, that's a little of a relief. So I'm telling you. But
I have no ties. I was never working for or with Dyrel, and
you know that doesn't make sense. I only ever, nothing stands out to
me either when I'm thinking about, like doing that fourteen months ago or whatever.
I have no idea, but I am tempted to help Wallace stick Dyrel
down after what I've learned, I suppose, But there's another reason. Go
on. They're helping and I look around. I'm clearly struggling to say this
without maybe outright saying something that could potentially get me killed. Uh. The
ship they're helping. They're helping those people, and I think after what I
saw when I was taken by Tyrrell and interacted with a detective. He didn't
he didn't hurt me. He could have. He should have. He should
have, but they didn't. Now you know why House considering quitting the l
A b D. Well, I'm not going to quit. I'm going to
do exactly what your friends are accusing me of doing. But not for Tyrell.
They told me there are They told me there are people on the force
ship people already, that Tyrell has some sort of programs ship people, ship
people. You know, Oh right, Okay, Tyrell supposedly has some sort
of program and has been in agreement with LAPD for it. Man, you're
saying the l A p D know about this, that's what she suggested.
She said that was possible. H h She wants me to find out.
Mhmm. It must be a lot easier if if we could just act on
what we thought was right. Well you can, we can. That's what
I'm doing. What did she say that convinced you? She asked me if
I had any children. I do not, but I had a younger sister.
I don't ble she she said, what if I found out that my
younger sister was one of these ship people that Tyrell had made for my parents.
Maybe that's why I am M. That's why I'm still a little on
the fence about it. How many people she can bring up like that?
For me? No? But does she need to? That's why? What
if? What would I do if it was my sister? Then that's what
I should do, because it's right. Whether it's my sister or your sister,
or your lover, or your mother or your father. It was a
morality test and it worked. What would you do if it was me?
That's not that you were one, I'd let you go. I would do
Oh my god, technically, so am I? How can I do this
job? How can anyone trust me? Because you are trustworthy? You're trustworthy
for doing what's right. Didn't used to be that was different from me and
a cop. I always felt like I was doing what's right the big picture.
Well maybe you were at the time. Maybe what's right changes. You
know who passed this law? Oh? Wallace representatives said they were going to
work on repealing it, but that it would probably take time. So the
best way for me to help, Frankly is to manipulate data on people you
find That's what I was going to do, and I was I sure I
was going to do it until Sawyer accused me of it for Tyrell, and
then I realized I absolutely would do it, just not for Tyrrell. I'm
sure you've asked yourself this question, but I need to know personally. I
need to hear you say it is this thing you believe in, this what
we're talking about. Is it worth dying for? You are going to shoot
me? No, Okay, someone might, especially if they find out,
Oh, is it worth dying for? I think so. It's scary,
but I think it's the right thing to do. I think if you were
going to kill my sister and I knew, I would do my best to
stop that from happening. And I think that idea, that doubt has infected
me. And no matter what, now, I'm going to see my sister
or I'm going to wonder. I won't be able to live with myself if
I don't do something. I can't tell if I've been manipulated flipped. But
that doesn't feel like that. Best way to recruit an army is to let
them think it was their idea. Yeah, I believe me. I thought
about that. But that's what I'm thinking about right now. Afore I talked
to you, that's what I had planned to do, plan to just drive,
quit somewhere anywhere, think about it. I had made up my mind
that I was going to quit, and then my partner, one of my
partners, talked me out of it, well, at least talk me into
thinking about it first. So that's what I was going to do after I
spoke to you. Now all this has come to light and I'm forced to
make a decisional quicker than I imagine. But I think you're right. I
think I think it's time I believe in a cause never stood up for much
in my life me either. It's a lot scarier than you know than the
movies. They always just know what to do and then they do it,
and they seem fearless. Yeah, not conflicted at all, not able to
see both sides like a human or so to speak. The one thing that
keeps going around and around in my mind. Though sure I could be killed,
I could be arrested, put in jail, the thing that really really
sticks me sticks with me. That's what if Selma finds out I cannot help
you with that. I know, break your goddamn heart. I know how
she feels about those people, and she would not entertain the idea of a
partner that entertains my ideas. All right, even if you quit, you're
only putting distance between the truth and her and you you're not erasing it.
Right, There's still a possibility she could find out that you're helping if you
choose to help. If you choose to quit and not do anything, then
then you know. But if you do choose to do something and stand up
for something for a cause, yeah, I think I'll do just that,
as you've been asked, but I haven't had any yet. I well know,
thank you. It looks and smells delicious. I feel so relieved I
could cry. Yeah, and we'll switch scenes. Alien the fuck are you
well? I have been sent back and forth now an l APD back towards
where Bob has directed me. So I imagine I'm approaching wherever Bob said to
meet up right here, It's fine, push the button on the on the
drop off screen. I imagine back of this cab, start looking for Bob.
So Bob is Bob would have parked the car out of the way,
but in a place he could have gotten to as fast as possible if you
saw the two leave, and then he would have walked and tried to find
a place that was outside of this place. Okay, joint like maybe you
could. So a lot of the lore that already exists states that the space
is at a premium. So a lot of these places don't have roots.
They're not indoor. They are like outdoor street things with you know, maybe
a little bit of a thing. But I think Skiff probably specifically chose a
place with one of the few remaining indoor spaces with walls and things like that.
But I think it's safe to say that perhaps you can kind of like
peer in you saw them pass by a window, and you can assume he's
sitting in the corner booth where there's no direct window to read lips or see
their conversation. Well there because some of my questions. Okay, so I
think that for the most part, I don't know what's going on, and
it could be innocuous, it might not be a big deal. So I
think that Bob would have sent a location for Galen that was essentially across the
street, you know, maybe a bit of an alleys sort of dark,
and I'm watching the door to see if they leave. I don't think I'm
comfortable going in there. I don't know anything, and I'm especially cautious.
Normally Bob would have probably walked in and said, what are you doing?
Yeah, he is super cautious. So yeah, I'm across the street,
okay, And I'll just let galen and see you and arrive and wrap on
the window whenever. Yeah, hey, you can hop in. I'll fill
you in. What the hell is going on? Yeah, I'm sorry,
I apologize. We thought we found the mole. We thought it was Natalie.
We have some uh and I pass over my ka. We have some
footage of her uh plugging something into this work station, which uh so happened
a Sawyer's work station. This was about fourteen months ago. This is around
the time that they actually came to the LAPD. We went to a hospital
and I think you probably see Bob hesitate for a minute, trying to figure
out how much he wants to talk about his emotions. But he was a
We discovered that it wasn't likely her considering the time period the timeline for when
they first got there, or likely it was a higher up given her a
job to do. I did some research and I found a and I hold
up the pad Leonard Griffin, and I passed that over to him. It's
the information I was able to get. He retired shortly after. He stayed
on long enough to do an intake for them some bank account information I've written
down there. He received a sizeable amount of money right before he retired.
Likely, it's definitely suspicious. Yeah, the problem is he is Simone Sawyer
and I had gotten to the vehicle, we were going to head back to
the LAPD and we saw skins. If an Nat leave, it seemed a
little uh suspicious considering everything she's been through and what we essentially well, what
was she was accused of? I was able to keep pace and now they're
inside. Did you accuse Natalie of these things? Who morally questioned her,
but some made sure to put a little bit of the fear of God in
her? She became upset, turned around and blamed Sawyer and it became a
little bit of a back and forth. So let me get this straight.
You approached Natalie with that Natalie access to terminal and accessing a terminal was a
little bit out of the ordinary. It was a bit of it. I
just want to be clear on this, all right, How do we connect
Natalie to all of this? Because Natalie access to terminal, the terminal that
she accessed, that is when the mole started to pick up information from that
place, and it was tied to Sawyer specifically since then, or at least
to the work station. I'm a little fuzzy on that. I don't understand
the text stuff as much, but the sounds of it, Sawyer, the
work station in tandem, that is where everything leads. That's what we found.
What about Sawyer, Sawyer's in Selma scare right now? Sawyer had I
pause again. I didn't necessarily trust Sawyer, but they were very forthcoming with
the information as they were receiving it. As of right now, I don't
know enough. And this and I point over to the ice cream shop.
This makes it more confusing. I don't know if this is just trying to
be nice. But Skiff was in the room. He was there when we
showed up. So after whatever you two did, which we still need a
bit of a briefing on that, After whatever you two did, whatever happened,
he went from I'm assuming you straight there considering the amount of time and
now they're here, But we have no concrete information from what it sounds like,
no other than most concrete information that we have is Leonard Uh, I'm
looking through the notes. Yeah, yeah, Leonard Griffin. Okay, I
mean we well, no, I mean gripping here? Oh Grippin? Did
I have that wrong? I look at my stuff? Is it Griffin or
gripping? Oh? So Leonard Griffin was It is very possible, but it's
all circumstantial. The only thing we do have is a video of nat going
into the space plugging something in, and then the data that Sawyer was able
to recover showing that information was flowing through that terminal. From what it sounded
like it was, it was the place to trace everything back to. Well,
what Sawyer had located was that this information was going through this terminal out
to a billboard that is circling the LAPD and then to another location. And
how do we know that Natalie is the person that did that? All we
have is the video there of her plugging it in, and that being in
conjunction with the timestamp for when the data draws started, according to Sawyer.
According to Sawyer, with Selma there I had asked her to keep eye is
on. I'm not saying we trust Sawyer. I'm not sure what to trust.
That's why I need your help, because I don't read people as well
as you do, and I'm not sure what this is. Well, it
looks like they're eating ice cream. Yeah, Bob, what would you do
if you found it out that Natalie was a sympathizer? What would you do?
My job? Specifically? What is your job? After? After they
discovered that it was Nat I was ready to go in there an interrogator.
I was ready to kill her, just like I was ready to kill Sawyer
in conjunction with the job. What about Sam? Do you mean what I
you mean? The fake Sam? Would I retire them? What if they're
the same person? Whether they're not, they can't be. I mean,
I don't know what my Sam was. But what are you getting at?
I'm trying to figure out how easy of a choice this is for you,
Bob, How easy you have a choice. I'll find out Natalie is a
sympathizer, You're shooting her in the head. The second us here? What
about Sam? You find out he's a replicant all along? What are you
gonna do? Bob? M my job. What is your job? Bob?
It's ticked out replicants and sympathizers. HM. I will say, I
don't know if Nat is a part of this. I don't know if she
he's responsible or patsy. That information is important in regards to this situation,
to this case. Are you asking about just going there and shoot her right
now? Yeah? Yeah, I need information she might have it. I
turn away from the ice cream parlor for a second. I turned towards Galen.
I was ready to do what was necessary. Sama taught me down.
I think that might have been a job to do. But that's the bit
right there, Bob. What is necessary? How much? Shay? How
much? Say? How much evidence do you need before you pull the trigger?
Because the way that you're talking right now, it kind of sounds like
the barest hint of evidence is going to be enough to justify you pulling that
trigger. She was talking to Sam. I mean, whoever that was?
I wanted to know. I need to know is she working with them?
M Did she know sam My? Sam? Is she the reason the reason
what that she died? Is it her? Is that her fault? Was
she a part of it? But who died? Bob, you know who?
I nod my head slowly. Do I want to go in there and
shoot nat if she's a sympathizer? No, I'm doing the job. I'm
not trying to be a murderer. I don't know what would happen unless I'm
faced with that situation. If she's right in front of me and I find
that out, would I just pull out a gun and shoot her right there?
I don't know. It's the job. We're not weapons, Bob.
How are we not weapons? How are we not just weapons? It's in
the name. All we do is attack. That's your job. No,
you're boiling the job down to killing something or retirement or whatever it is that
you want to call it. It's it's but it's but it's not. I
make a choice, Bob. And part of our job is to find evidence,
yes, evidence of wrongdoings crimes. But that is a crime, and
it's punishable, and it is written down and it is past. It's my
job. I don't but I don't know in that moment, I don't know.
I don't know yet. Maybe I mean I don't want to I don't
want to kill anybody. What am I sure? Of course I'm sure.
I don't just go around killing people left and right because there's a hint good.
But for the for those that were responsible for the blackout, that was
a crime. And I would retire every single one of them involved, and
I would kill if needed in a proper moment. If I was aggressively chasing
someone and they were violent towards me and they were involved, yes, because
that's a job. But when I just walk in there and shoot Nat,
No, he said, it's not. The job. Depends on what happens.
That's everything. I'm ready to always. I had a talk with Skiff,
Okay and Bob. How did you feel, aside from the vengeance when
everything went down? Did you want to quit? Yeah? Why didn't you?
I had nothing else? What would I have done? Where would I
have gone? I have one skill set, that's my life. I think
Skiff is going through that right now. He wants to quit. He's thinking
about it. What the hell happened at that club? It's not for me
to tell that's a job. What do you mean it's not for you to
tell we run an op. You're saying that I need to hear directly from
him. I'm saying that we're partners. If you tell me something in confidence,
I'm not gonna be blabbing. What did he say, Gayalen? What
did he tell you he's thinking about quitting? The rest is for him to
tell Bob. Okay, I'm going to pull my gun out and place it
down between us, and I'm going to get out of the car and go
across the road towards the ice cream shop? Are you going to try and
stop me? That depends what are you trying to do. I put the
gun down as a you'd know that. For me to do that, I
was. I mean, I'm never without my gun. Never, It's just
always. I know of any backups. No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't
have. I mean, I might have a knife on me. But I
think we've been partners long enough that you would understand whatever I'm trying to show
you. I'm gonna grab the gun and put it probably like in a pocket,
and I'm gonna follow you, Okay. I I'm gonna look back at
h at Galen and just I'm just gonna look at him for a second.
Then I'll open the door and I'll go inside and I'll look for him.
Yeah, I think you see them sitting at a table with Uh. This
looks like a banana split and a shake, and Natalie's laughing. Hm.
I think Skiff clocks you immediately. I hesitate at this scene of what I'm
seeing. You should get the room rum raising. It's really good. I
walk over to this booth that they're in. M hmm, I wonder if
I sit down? Please sure? I slide into the booth right next to
uh, Skiff right next to him, and I wave Galen over. If
he's walked in at this point, I'd probably would have been outside. Okay,
I'm just kind of keeping things in my periphery. Okay, then I
wouldn't Skiff, Bob. I want to ask you some questions. I will
be direct. Please don't lie to me. Can I wait until I finished?
If I'm an assplit, I'd rather not. I'm sorry, and I'll
look over it in Nat. What did she say to you? What did
who say to me? To you? Not you? I'm sorry that right
now, this really doesn't involve you. Okay, what did she say to
you? Why are you thinking about leaving hold On? I'm so sorry?
Are you talking to me now? I am? I'm talking to you specifically,
oh god, I thought you were talking to Natalie. No. Yeah,
and then he said it's not to do with you. Yeah, sorry,
okay, fine, I love the hang though. Oh yeah, yeah
yeah, okay, please ask the question again. Sure, okay, what
did she say to you? And why are you thinking about? I look
outside, pasted Natalie. Do I see Galen out there? I'm out there.
I'm definitely like keeping an eye on things, okay, and I just
did not on my head. So you been talking to your partner, well,
one of them, not as much as I like. He wasn't really
forthcoming. He respected what you said and said that if I was going to
ask my questions, it should be to you, because that's who Galen is
on. Let me try that again. Oh, actually, if you just
want to take the first two before, do I notice that Bob doesn't have
his gun? Uh, let's see Bob, would you hide that? No?
No, I think I always have it on some level of display.
Yeah, there is no gun on me, and I think that would clock
you with something. I don't know how you think, because you didn't take
your holester off, so you just start wearing your hole st like normal,
but your gun's not in it, which is nuts. It is nuts.
I know it's rude, Bob, but I'm going to respond to your question
with a question of my own. Forgive me, but did you take your
gun off because you're afraid to shoot me? Are you afraid you are going
to shoot me? Yeah? If I or to say no to answer your
questions, what would happened, Bob? An internal investigation that I would have
to put forward. They'd be on you night and day. They'd look into
your past, they would control your future. There's enough going on that the
suspicion would easily fall. We'd all be wrapped up in it. You're really
gonna do that, Bob? No one ever want to work with you again.
No one never trusts you again. You know that, right, Rats,
Rat, that's the job and it's not. Yeah. Well, seeing
as how you talk this over with Galen, I'm assuming he said something along
the line, though it's not his story to tell, got that, right,
Yeah, verbatim? Yeah, Bob, I'm a cop. You're a
cop. I'm not an executioner, and that's what they're asking me to be.
I haven't made a solid choice about what I'm going to do with that
information or that new thought process. But yes, I thought about quitting.
How about you, Bob, where are you at? I think some things
click in my head. I look at Skiff and everything he's saying. I
look at Galen and everything he just said in the car, and the themes
are just be getting questioned about what I would do. I stand up really
fast, and I knock the banana split off the tables. God damn it.
I stand there for a minute. I will definitely walk inside as soon
as I see Bob react harshly, I'll just step inside. Yeah, but
I do hold my hand up. I clock you and I Skiff. Oh,
I had everything neat and orderly, and I'm gonna be honest with you,
Okay, being honest. I'll be honest. I would shoot and retire
every replicant if I could. I would go after every one until there isn't
anymore. I wouldn't. I'm not stopping, or at least that's where I
was. And you told me about a child replicant. We talked you remember
in the gym. I I love someone and they died, and they died
and it was their fault. It is their fault. It was it was.
But I can't the fact that you had a friend that was a child
that was created the same way. And from what you've mentioned, from what
little I know, they didn't sound aggressive, they didn't sound violent, they
didn't sound hell bent on destruction. I have a job. You have a
job as of right now, you still have that job. We have a
job, but I don't. Galen is asking me in the car, just
how quickly I want to pull that trigger? What am I supposed to do
with all this? Are you my partner right now? Are you my partner?
Yes? Uh? I am What am I supposed to do with this?
Do I want to go tell on you? No? Galen and I
have done a lot of shit in the line of duty. A lot of
it was in a gray area, never really crossing over, but close enough
sometimes. Yeah. I mean we all have in this job because you have
to. You have to make compromises, you have to do. I fucking
hate it. The thing is gray. Lets you sleep at night, you
might be a little bit and I don't sleep at night. You sleep.
There's there's just a turn of things. I can live with myself. I
can live with myself with the gray. But this this isn't gray anymore.
Bob. You're asking me. You're telling me that what if there's a replicant,
and I'm going after what Galen brought up. If there's somebody in front
of you, if there's a replicant in front of you, you're not just
going to pull the trigger unless what they do something I didn't do it before.
I don't see a reason to start out. Not really changing, Bob.
I'm staying the same. The jobs are changing, the job's changing,
and it's up to you whether you want to keep doing the job or keep
doing what you know is right? What is what is right? What is
what is right? Blowing up a bomb's not right? I know that,
but I'm not saying that that's it's not Bob. How did you know what
was right before this whole situation? How did you know? Same as how
you know now? I followed laws, I learned, I understood people do
bad things. You've let people go though before, right, Bob, unless
you haven't, and I've taken back. But I've let shoplifters minor infractions.
When I was coming up, I let him go, gave him a little
talking to, wag my finger a little bit, but I let him go.
Yeah, sometimes I don't. Yeah, That's what I'm saying. Bob
Law is not set in stone to a person alaw as our guide, but
it is not the word of God. And that's how I've reconciled it.
I'm not changing what I've been doing since I joined the police force. I'm
making decisions as they come. Galen opened my eyes to that. He's right.
Fuck, I'll walk out. I storm past Galen. I don't go
to the car. I just start walking. I look at Natalie and I
go, my motherfucker owes me being in a split. I should follow him.
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