Piece, Yo, what's going on everyone? It's Animac here from Anime Outpro.
We're welcome to a brand new episode the One Piece Virgin. We're back
with the One Piece Virgin podcasts, covering chapters one and twenty to one thousand
and twenty three, and these are some insane chapters. One Piece has really
been crazy these past few weeks, so I'm really glad that we get to
do it now. I've been missing our One Piece Version. In the meantime,
we've been do the Naruto Virgin podcast, which is a separate podcast but
the same idea as the One Piece Vergin. So if that's something you're interested
in, check out Naruto Virgin anywhere you watch your podcast. We're like four
hundred chapters in right now, and Naruto has also been freaking fire so far.
Briggs is here, boys, It's always good to be here. I
love the One Piece Version. One Piece Version is one of my favorite podcasts.
It's honestly sad that we could only do it once a month because we'd
like to wait for a couple of chapters come out, at least three or
four, you know, But I love One Piece Virgin. I'm hyped to
talk about these chapters. Oda is honestly such a legend man. Yeah,
this is awesome, and unfortunately Knux couldn't make it today. He had something
come up. He's in New York on like a trip, family trip,
so he had something come up last me that he's not happy about it either,
because he's gonna miss an amazing episode. Some crazy theory stuff is happening
that he himself made videos on in the past, so I'm sure he would
have loved to be here, Like this is one of those guys where I
one of those episodes where I actually missed Knucks on ironically, like it's not
like I say, oh, I'm missed Nucks, but in reality, I'm
like, yo, he's not gonna interrupt me. This is sick. I
actually would want him to be here. Briggs one hundred percent for the one
Piece Vergion, especially like he DMed us today like sorry, boys, can't
make the narratal Virgin oops, And I'm like, bro, it's one piece
Virgin. He's like no, like no, not like this, not like
this those then. But yeah, there's a lot of cool theories because Knucks
has some theories obviously with the show Dragons and Mary Joa and the Moon and
all that, and there's some stuff in these chapters that like I kind of
cover it. We have some Oh man, it's just it's just a fire.
It's just a fire. Four chapters, honestly, can you hear me?
Yeah, yeah, I'm here, I got Okay, Okay, So
we're starting a chapter one thousand and twenty Robin versus Black Maria, and you
know, okay, yeah, start with whatever you want to start with.
You're the you're the one piece verge. I think that we first actually had
Yamato was devil fruit being described before we got into the Robin Versus Black Market.
Yeah, but I was just reading the name of the chapter. Oh
okay, okay, I thought you were kind of like you wanted to go
into the fight run away. No no, no, no, I just
read the name of the chapter, man, No, no, no.
Yeah, it's sick. This was a six chapter because so last time,
when we had the last episode, we talked about yama those devil fruit the
form being unveiled, but we didn't know much about it. There was a
lot of speculation about what kind of mythical beast. She is a mythical zone
fruit, and it turns out that she is a mythical wolf. She has
a mythical wolf devil fruit that is considered sacred and Wano. So it's it's
a mythical version of the of the dog dog fruit, isn't I believe it's
actually crazy because people have been like theorizing and trying to guess her devil fruit
for so long now because they see their horns. So there were so many
different ideas, and I was surprised to see that it was like a mythical
wolf. Yeah, hous in the biz translation here, yeah music biz,
And it's a mythical wolf, but it is a variation of the dog dog
fruit, but just like a mythical variation, yes, yeah. And this
is considered to be a guardian deity of Wando, which is interesting because Wano
didn't know about devil fruits per se. But I guess the previous users of
this devil fruit were considered to be kind of like guardians of Wano, that's
my guess. And this is kind of like an even bigger insult to the
people of Juano that not only did Kaido subjugate them, but he also took
possession of this devil fruit that is sacred to them. It's considered an even
bigger insult. But Kaido intended Yamato to become shogun and use the fruit as
a way to kind of legitimize her rule by saying, you know, I
am the mythical wolf, and I am your shogun, and you have to
listen even though the country's falling apart, and to become a weapons factory.
You know, he wants Yamata to pacify the population and rule in kind of
as shogun. But we all know that Yamato doesn't actually want to do this.
She wants to liberate the people and take Kaido down, and that's obviously
not what Kaido had intended, And so Yamato is now fighting Kaido. Considering
the Yamato is kind of this guardian deity or has this fruits, do you
think that Yamato will probably end up being the shogun or doing some type of
because she obviously wants to open up Juano to the like, to the world
world, right, Yes, which is very contrasting the Kaido. They their
beliefs are completely different. So do you think like Yamato would be the shogun
or Momo? I guess Momo is still young but not really, which we'll
get into that. Yeah. So the thing is, though, I feel
like Yamato has made it clear that she wants to travel the world like Ace
did though, right, Yeah, that's that's the other thing. It's kind
of like um old in himself. He was supposed to become the next shogun,
but he wanted to travel the world. So there was the whole issue
with us. So, yeah, that is an interesting thing. Would Yamato
actually become Sun will? Will she become a straw Hat, which is what
I'm hoping for. I don't think she oh, well, she doesn't want
to sail the world. I don't know. What blows my mind is the
fact that she's actually hanging on like kid like this fruit must be super powerful
because she's like holding her own against Kaido here, like to a certain extent.
Obviously, we only have what like two panels to go off of or
like whatever, two pages, but they're like powers clash and they're like they
whatever their blast breath kind of clash and like kind of negate each other.
Yeah, so definitely, I was always expecting Yamata to be impressive, but
I feel like Yamata for straw Hat is the campaign that we all need to
go on. I mean I would, I would want Yamato over most people
like Carrot. But you know, you know who the real MVP is.
You know who the real MVP is. The next next rail hat Caribou bro
bringing the meats for the boy again. I'm I'm jumping ahead, but you
gotta talk about that because it was it was kind of like a separate thing,
so we can talk about it now. Um, but thank you Sam
for the five hundred magical crystals. So someone in chat mentioned I don't exactly
remember if this happened last episode, but someone in chat said that Knox in
the previous episode said that Caribou is gonna show up and give the stolen meat
to Lufy. But he called it, but he literally called it. Bitola
said that in chat, And yeah, I don't recall because it was like
a month and a half ago now, but if that's true, that is
freaking awesome, because yes, Cariboo did show up and gave the meat that
he stores in his like swamp area produced by his double fruit to Lufy in
order to get Loufy to recuperate his strength after you know, being knocked into
the ocean and then recovered by laws boys and the submarine and then brought up
to the surface. Swamp swamp bro for straw hat. Yeah, nuts did
call it though he did call yeah. Man, it's funny because Cariboo has
been a meme and people were saying, oh, Caribou for straw hat and
shit, but yeah, I don't know, man, since fish man island,
no sabboodi sabod, Cariboo has been a meme, always finding his way
into the plot, into the story on the straw hat hip, like I
fucking love him, Mann, I have to say, along with Cariboo,
Condano is my other guy that I'm hoping he's gonna make the straw hats.
But I mean, Yamato is my priority right now. Yamato straw hat for
sure. On Yamato versus Kaido. Actually, I read somewhere. I'm not
sure if it was like someone in Chad mentioning it or like on Twitter or
something, but I've I've seen people talking about the fact that Kaido seems to
believe that women can't be shogun because he you know, he wanted to get
rid of Momo, but he didn't really care about Hiary and he didn't care
about what's the wife's name, I don't remember chat. I mean, you
know, you guys know how bad. So people were saying, like,
Kaido clearly didn't seem to feel that women are a threat to the kozuki,
woman just the men, and yet he wants Yamato to be the shogun.
So people are saying that maybe Yamato was raised to be to present as a
man the whole time by Kaido, specifically because he believed that she has to
pretend to be a man in order to be a legitimate shogun. But then
as a kind of way to fight back against them, she decides, oh,
yeah, you want me to be a man, Well, I will
become the man you hate the most, the man who challenged you and pushed
you the furthest odin. Yeah. Well, I mean it makes sense because
Juana is based off of like Japan, Durning, Like, I don't know
exactly what period, like the Edo period. Maybe I don't, I don't
remember, um, but I'd imagine shogen back in the day couldn't be what's
it called, couldn't be a female, So it makes sense, right,
And like I don't know, it makes sense for the culture on Juanna.
Yeah, but and you got Yamato wanting to be odin or like saying that
they are odin? Right? Yeah? Is that to me? Is I
like that theory? The fact that Yamata wanting to be olden even though old
and obviously he's a totally different person, is a way to rebel against her
father's like attempt to make her into this shogun figure and repress her actual personality
for his own political and you know, power goals. Yeah, that's that's
possible. Right, Yeah, we'll see how that goes. But yeah,
so then we have Black Maria versus Robin uh and uh featuring Brooke a little
bit um the one important a little bit Briggs, do you have the manga
open? I do have it open. Yes, Okay, it's a goal
to page ten. Very important detail here, Okay, I want to get
everyone to uh, you're gonna say, yeah, I'm there, Black Maria
upside down under boob. Check it out. Bro I should have called it.
I literally should have called it. He brought me to this page and
I was like, I don't already know what you're gonna say. I should
have just fucking call what you're gonna say. Next you will say yes.
Bro theories Black Maria upside down under Boob is why I love one piece.
Yo. Black Maria be playing these mind games, literally tossing chirps the entire
battle, Like he's like a fucking Canadian hockey player out here, likely rosed
in someone mid play. Yeah, she's been. She's really manipulative emotionally,
and obviously she's strong physically, and she was. She also uses this power.
It's like this mist which makes people kind of see their most precious memories,
and then that is used against them by Black Maria, and she tries
to do it on Robin and Brooke, And we know from Robin's perspective,
she sees like everyone from in her childhood, right, she sees her mother,
she sees the dude at the library, she sees the giant yep,
and but she sees right through it because she knows that it's an illusion created
by Black Maria, and she ends up like overcoming it. But yeah,
that power in itself can be so powerful if you can use it to manipulate
people, especially people who might be impressionable or you know, emotionally unstable.
Like that's such a deadly power. Even the slightest hesitation, not wanting to
kill someone that you love or care about, right, because those were actually
black. Maria is like henchman or whatever people that we're gonna attack Robin,
right, So thanks, thank god you got Brooke, who like he's he
was on he was on what thriller Barker on that ship for like fifty years.
Like he's he's dreamt about them enough. He knows that they're really dead
obviously, Um, so it probably didn't affect him. He's been desensitized.
And the same thing with Robin. Yeah. Well, at first Brook thinks
that Robin is being affected, and we also think don't We don't know,
But then Robin ends up just like smashing the illusions like with her hands,
and we realized that no, she's uh, she knew it was an illusion
the whole time too. Well, she's also intelligent enough to, like,
I feel if Lufy was in that situation, he would have been like Ace,
yeah, yeah, I don't know. He could be like that,
or he could get mad because he's like, I know, it was just
dead and just freakuti and more yeah, maybe as hesitation, and then like
it's like that's an insult to his to his memory. Yeah, Lufi is
definitely uh more simple, whereas I feel like Robin has had to, you
know, to survive. If she's had to do so much, you know,
she has to sneak around manipulate all this other stuff. So she's ready
like she knows, um okay. So then yeah, Maria continues to manipulate
Robin, in particular by saying that Sanji, her own crewmate, lured her
into a trap because, as you guys will recall, he called to Robin
saying save me, which is what black Maria and her hench women am I
right, brigs, Yes, they they all wanted that. So it was
like Sanjie did what they wanted, lured Robin into their den. So they're
saying, oh, look, Robin, Sanji, your crewmate, your so
called friend, actually luring into a trap to save himself. Isn't that terrible?
Don't you feel betrayed? But actually Ongoshima all about Ygoshima was like,
bro, that was that's kind of pathetic, like luring your own like whatever.
Broadcasting that right, they broadcasted it. But it takes a strong in
my opinion, it takes a strong man to like one be like willing to
like look like a fool in front of everyone and care about the greater goal,
but also have showing that you have faith in Robin, like that she's
once smart enough to not walk into it like an idiot, but too strong
enough to handle herself. She's not this like weight that Black Maria is saying
and he could slap like she's gonna be She can be fine in this way
situation, right, and allows sand you had to go deal with some of
the bigger people, like one hundred percent confidence in your in your in your
squad. Yeah exactly, So Robin, instead of feeling like she was lured,
she actually is glad that Sandie trusted her enough to rely on her to
actually take these women down because Sandi can't hit women exactly. And the entire
time, like during this fight, Black Maria is like, you're just like
a weight to the crew, right, Like you're you're only there because yeah,
even the world government only wants you because of your brain. You're worth
listen to fight. No one actually, like no one cares about your personality.
She's just tossing chirps. Yeah, Like I did not at all the
that first second, Like as the reader, I was like this is not
Robin, Like, what are you talking about? It's not going to work.
Yeah, Like maybe like Husap you could mess with in that way because
USA feels like he's the weakest and all this type of stuff or Chopper to
be fair though, like I would say Robin, like when he was first
introduced, like I thought she was this badass person who could like one shot
people that were strong. But in regards to the crew, I think she's
on the lower like the lower half for sure when it comes. Yeah,
I mean that's so. I'm sure she might have some some insecurities about being
being weaker. I mean it's possible, right maybe, but I just don't
get that vibe from her, like more so from like others like Loofy.
Yeah the drop I mean not a Loofy, but but I mean yeah,
and I wasn't buying it. Robin wasn't buying it. And the fight goes
on, but in meantime we see the Loofy being brought to the surface.
He needs more meat, a moment, wants to turn into a dragon.
He wants a moment to turn him into a dragon, and flying back up
to only gosh you mind. Then we see caribou return, give Lucy the
meat, and after that we have continuation of black Maria versus Robin. And
then I'm just laughing grand the jacuzzi clutch. What hell do you say?
Um, the attack Robin used because Robin, Oh, Robin goes into some
demon mode. Oh no, we're jumping ahead bro a little bit here.
I just want to say, also, I never realized that, like you
could literally attack any one of her hands. I'm surprised that hasn't really Maybe
I just never noticed. Oh yeah, she was taken damage when the big
version of herself because she created like a big version of herself, right,
Well, she's created like hundreds or at least dozens of hands in the past.
I'm just surprised no one ever just chopped one of them off, Like
technically you could do that and do damage to the actual body. I don't
know if that would work in every situation or if it just for specifically when
she has that giant clone. Well, the giant clone is definitely a larger
target to hit, but it seems like, yeah, they're actually flesh and
blood body parts. That's why they could touch and hurt you. So you
could do damage to her in a similar way. M hmm. Yeah,
yeah. I wasn't sure if it was just a specific form that that works
in or whether it's every time she creates an arm but yeah, she was
sustaining damage from Black Maria. When Black Maria was hitting, um the various
arms and stuff, her main body was taking damage as well. But yeah,
then we go into what the fuck was that? Like demon form?
Bro? Yeah that was crazy because I was like, so her giant form
turns into like a demon Robin formed, that's like darker, has horns and
stuff and fangs, like her teeth change, Like I was like fruit.
I was thinking like, is she darker because of armam and hockey? Like
is that supposed to be armaman hockey? And then Sam and the child was
like, Bro, Robin got the Susano. Yeah, well is that not
another devil fruit? So it's I'm leaning more towards hockey, right, or
like some type of ability, or maybe fucking Oda just wanted to draw her
looking like a devon out. Yeah, I'm sure there's a million theories online.
Yeah, it could be fruit awakening of some sort. It could be
hockey. We did see her apparently training with the revolutionaries. Yes, in
her what they call We got a little backstory from the time Skip Yea and
like Sabo was trying to teach her like the dragon claw, like they were
like, yeah, you can't like anyway. One of them was like the
joint locks are really powerful, but they were kind of saying, like,
you need to learn how to strike people too, So like they they they
taught her this like fishman palm strike, which is really cool. Yeah,
so she was using like Fishman karate in combination with her new devil form or
demon form, and yeah, it was It was interesting because Koala was there
too and they were training her, so we got like a little bit of
an explanation that why she's powered up. But again we don't know exactly how
it works, whether it's hockey, whether it's awakening, whether it's because it's
obviously not just the martial arts aspect, because yeah, she learned some martial
arts, but that wouldn't change her form. Yeah. I'm looking at this
image again and I was like super tripped out. I'm like, which one's
black Maria, Like what the hell? And obviously Robin's the one like just
snat like whatever, like whatever, cracking her body and choking her out um
with looks like her thigh, which is you know, a good way to
go out. I guess yeah. On Twitter, any Me just tweeted some
images like he likes to do and brah, like I'm in this demon form.
I couldn't even figure out like what limbs were robbins and which ones were
black. It's like it's like, where's the real body anymore? Yeah,
because black Maria has like her dark legs and stuff, and I'm like,
but now we have Robin. Does Robin have horns as well? Yes,
horns and fangs? Like what? That's some crazy kind It kind of reminds
you of the of Kaido's like beast pirates, like the costumes they were wearing
when they first came to any Goshi not right, hmm, Yeah, that's
that's very interesting. I'm so curious, man. I feel like one piece
they gave us, like one little thing that we've been wondering about for a
while, like Yamato's fruit, and then it's like, oh, here's five
more mysteries. Yeah. And Philip mentions in the chat that Maria called Robin
the demon Child, which is kind of what she was known as when she
was on the run, so that form is obviously a reference to that demon
child thing. But I kind of doubt that this form is just this is
the first time it's ever happened. I feel like Robin trained with it beforehand.
That's just my impression because we were kind of getting the idea that she
was training beforehand. So yeah, I'm not sure if this is like the
first time she ever used this form or if she was just like hiding it
and then in order to release it. We know that she could create many
limbs and bought even just her like an entire another body, right, um,
in any really form she wants. Clearly, maybe she could like this
is her manipulating her devil fruit. I find it weird that she would add
horns and a like fangs. Its just although out the aesthetic. Maybe I
don't know. Yeah, so that's the thing. Is it all just I
mean, coucy stab people and fangs for biting obviously, like it has some
type of value or it could provide value. Yeah, but why is it?
Why is it? Why is that form darker? I feel like it
has to be hockey related, right, Yeah, that could be connected to
hockey for sure. Otherwise it's just kind of like a random looking long like
like her shin is like her, like her leg looks so much longer,
So she obviously can manipulate like that as well. Like I would love to
see like a full body shot of her in her deemon form not covered by
like black Maria and all this like rubble, because she even strikes the top
of the roof with her fishman strike to allow for this opportunity and to like
put out the flames and stuff. Yeah, so I think that it definitely
it has to be some sort of kind of awakening type situation, because yeah,
she can manipulate her body, she always could in the limbs and stuff,
but that also has a lot of potential to you know, evolve as
she masters the devil fruit. So I think it is probably some sort of
awakening and that would be cool because then it makes Robin relevant again in terms
of fighting. Yeah, exactly, And it could be a combination of awakening
or Hockey or both, right, And yeah, I do think Robin needed
some type of buff chopper got one up got one, and I felt like
Robin never really got one. Even Naby got one with her new clim attacked
and Zeus like everyone would have been getting like a power upgrade, and Robin's
just like, yes, my legs are bigger now. Yeah. No,
I think that there's gonna be definitely a debate about whether this new form is
how he related or if it's just you know esthetic. I would I would
think that, knowing what we know about you know, one piece and hot
armand hockey and how it's portrayed in the past, I would say that it
is related that, but yeah, you don't know for sure. Yeah,
I'm ready for that. Robin fucking Dojin. People are gonna start like going
crazy about Demon Robin Dojin. It's probably already bro big feet, God damn
it. Yeah. Yeah. The grand Jacuzzi clutch is the VIZ translation for
the attack she uses to um yeah, so like take black Maria out and
and uh Robin wins and she looks epic doing it, and the Dojin,
you know, the Dojan creators are at full force, full speed ahead.
I mean, I think I think this was a win for everyone. This
is a win for everyone, absolutely, And I'm happy that Robin did get
like a power up for sure. She was definitely in need of one.
And I want to take back way fit about her being insecure. She seems
to get very confident person I just met, Like clearly she was on the
bottom end of strength for the team. Yeah, I think Maria was trying
to like Maria was trying to fish into that insecurity hunt. That's what That's
what I feel like to me, Robin just doesn't seem like that kind of
person. You know, at her core, Yeah, she wasn't even faith
by seeing like her loved ones being brought back, right. Yeah. And
I mean to think about everything she's been through since she was a child,
right, you would think that she would people have been shi talking to her
her entire life for sure. Anyway, as to the next we had to
Hawkins versus Killer fight. But I'm not following chapter by chapter. I'm just
kind of my notes. So if you want to, you know, I'm
not sure which chapters which. If there's anything that we don't bring up out
or I want to bring up specific I'll bring up but lead the way,
my dude. Yeah, So Hockeys versus Killer we had, like, um
an interesting fight. It was pretty short, and we learned that Hawkins is
able to transfer the damage dealt onto him U by Killer, I want to
Captain Kidd right, Yes, cool. Well, Hawkins has always had some
some crazy devil fruits that I honestly don't even fully understand. But we've also
always known that, like he's able to transfer some type of damage, like
he's been like almost killed and then like does it to someone else because of
his doll? Yeah, and then he understanding of his of his devil fruit,
Like do the tarot cards have anything to do with it? Clearly the
dolls do in the straw and all that. But yeah, his abilities seem
very overpowered, yeah when used correct that. I feel like his abilities are
overpowered but very specific, so you have to be very strategic when you use
them. Yes, um. Yeah. So basically, he puts Killer in
this position where if Killer wants to finish Hawkins off, he will have to
kill his own captain to do it, which sucks because I feel like Killer
definitely has the advantage in the fight from what we've seen, but because of
the caveat that, you know he'll be hurting kids. Dad's gonna screw him
up big time. Yeah, it's a it's tough, and I wonder if
it's only if Killer attacks him, or if it's anyone that attacks him,
like what if? What if? Because Laws also is Law there or nearby?
Law was on the roof last time, but now I don't know where
he went after that. Oh I see Law in front of Big Mom still,
so he's not just below the roof. M hmm um, dude,
there's some crazy fights going down right now. Oh yeah, so so with
Hawkins versus Killer. After that we went to Zoro and Sanji versus King and
Queen and that was fucking wild. And Zoro looks like he's made a recovery,
which is hype. Yeah. I guess from some of Chopper's like wood
voodoo or something. I don't know why. Yeah, who knows he was
he was fully casted, fully healed or like whatever, getting some treatment.
It's one piece. At the end of the day, Lucy could eat a
bunch of meat and he's good to go. So Chopper could fix them up.
Um you got Marco like announcing it's time for the stars to take the
stage. Yes, presumably referring to Zoro and Sanji in this game. Yeah,
unless he was like he was like, oh, by the way,
Shanks is here or something that was like that happened, that would have been
nuts. But no, black Beard comes out of nowhere, shape comes out
again. I'm still hoping that will happen by the end of the Ark.
But we'll see. Dude, what's the other guy's name? So it's it's
King Zoro Sangi. And what's the other guy's name, Queen? Oh,
Queen. King and Queen should not be that hard for me. They have
the two ancient zones, yes they do. And so then the crazy theory
stuff comes in because we learned about the Lunarians. We're are apparently a race
of godly people who can burn like wildfire. So apparently they can light themselves
ablaze, have firepowers, That's what I'm getting from it. Well, yes,
but the race was from mary Joa, was it not. Yeah,
so apparently they used to live on top of mary Jola, Okay, apparently
in ancient times and where King is allegedly one of them, although we've never
seen him outside of his like disguise. Right, what with all the connections
and of Mary Joa and the celestial dragons to the moon, like, so
lunarians obviously Luna means moon, right, And then there's so many theories for
a while that maybe the celestial dragons came from the moon or people have had
those theories before. Um, hey, just it's just crazy that of course
this lunarian happens to be on Mary Joa. Yeah, so people are saying
in Chad that it's not mary Joel per se. This would have been before
mar Joel was established, but it would be on top of the red line,
so kind of where it is well before Mary Joel was established, but
it's still the same location. Yeah, that's what That's how I interpreted.
So it's like the name that it's almost like the celestial dragons like supplanted these
ancient guys mm hmm yea. And are there are there no more left or
or not no more laught for like but like we haven't seen anyone else like
king have we or was there was there one person in Impel down or am
I just over? I don't know. I have no idea, but but
people are saying and Chid that maybe because Sanji can like light parts of him
on fire, like his kicks, that maybe he's like part lunarian in some
way, Like yeah, I doubt it because yeah, because that was the
question was posed. I don't know if it was, but it was someone
was like call him. This guy's leg is on fire, Like, what's
going on with this dude? Yes, the question was posed, Um I
always assume to do with something like insane friction because they used to have to
like spin around to do it. Yeah, but now he doesn't even spin,
does he. It's again that question of is it just aesthetics to look
cool, like like we talked about, you know, the the new robin
form. Is it just to look cool or is there actual meaning to it?
I think it's like for you. Evenlofy was able to trede like fire
like with one of his attacks, right his like red hawk and I can't
remember what it's called, but like, um I I obviously I don't think
Sanji is. But wasn't Magella? Was Magellan looking similar? Maybe not?
Maybe on this full of shit Hannabelle and impel Down lighted his spear on a
fire. I knew people were talking about impel Down, I could not remember
what it was. Yeah, this is very interesting because we known that whole
Moon thing, right, Like we saw that on the Moon there are remnants
of an ancient civilization that was quite advanced. So did these lunarians come from
the Moon or did they colonize the moon back when they were in power before
the celestial dragons came. You know, what is the relationship between the lunarians
and celestial dragons, Because clearly the celestial dragons don't have this light of firepower,
so apparently I would assume they're not themselves descendants of the lunarians. No,
I do not think so. But yeah, definitely, definitely really interesting
because Knox made a whole video in years ago talking about the importance of the
Moon and one Piece and how it relates to the world and to the one
piece itself. Elf. It was a really good video. And now the
moon is coming back, the moon would not be relevant, Like, there's
got to be some huge significance in my opinion, for Oda to take the
time to like one obviously, and Nell wanted to go to the moon,
right, but when he got there, we got all these cover stories of
like they're being a society there, and then now we have the Lunarians.
I feel like there's got to be something. Yeah, it's just a question
of how does that relate to the Great War, right, because we know
there was this war eight hundred years ago where an ancient civilization fought against the
celestial dragons and the celestial dragons one but you know who were the lunarians?
Were they on the ancient civilization side or were they on the side of the
celestial dragons, like presumably they were not they were, they would have been
on the other side, the losing side, because we don't seem any of
them anymore right under wonder Clearly you would think that the celestial dragons knew about
them because they made their headquarters kind of where delinarians are theirs, right,
there's probably meaning to that as well. And then you have the flesh old
dragons literally wearing space shoots what looks like a space suit, right like yeah,
yeah, almost like that. That's why people had the theory that maybe
they came from from what's it called the moon? Yeah, but then why
would the other guys be called lunarians? Exactly, It's true, It's true,
it could be. I feel it's got to be some type of significance.
We're probably off obviously, um I just like I said, one piece
adds, like you learn one thing and then there's five or ten more questions
every time. Yeah, we didn't even get into the whole Zoro secret.
Backstory stuff, yeah, which also was revealed in the latest chapter, which
was nuts. But just on the topic of the lunarians, I think that
in the one piece world, judging from what we saw from an L I
think for them space is not um avoid of oxygen because an LL just flew
there without like any sort of breathing apparatus. Right, Well, I think
you're right, although for a now, I like, who needs Likenell is
like a fucking god man with he's like pure lightning. Did he even need
to breathe? Well, I would assume if he's human, he just has
a double fruit, right, So it's all, yeah, I did because
people used to believe back before people went to space, some people believe that
the space was made of ether, which was like this substance that allowed you
to breathe, Like you could breathe in space, so you know what I'm
saying, Like you could turn your he could turn his body into electricity,
So I'd imagine like maybe he could get away with things other people can't,
Like did he even need to have lungs when you could just turn your body
into electricity? Well, I don't know, man, no one's ever tried.
What does that mean, turn your lungs into electricity. What does that
even mean to say that these guys to put their turn their bodies into a
substance. I don't. We can't use him for like a plot point about
breathing. Yeah, but about like a body war, so we have to,
you know, consider that. But yeah, I wonder. But also
the reason I'm asking this question is because the celestial dragons have, like you
said, those space suits, and yet and l didn't use a space suit.
I'm pretty sure Oda said that you can literally go to the Moon with
a hot air balloon. I remember Teching saying that in one of these videos
that you don't you don't need like a rocket ship or anything to go to
space. You can literally go up with like a hot air balloon. It's
possible. So they probably don't they like in the one piece world, you
can probably breathe in space. Yeah, it's fair, That's what I would
think. But we'll see. Um. Yes, let's talk about Zoro now,
because the Wano people are while Zoro is fighting and using his swordsmanship style
against King, because Zoro was magically healed by Chopper, the Wanna people are
like Yo, Zoro look is He's like the spitting image of Shimotsuki Ushimaru,
who was the daimyo of Ringo, and he also has the same swordsmanship style
as this guy. M and the Shimotsuki clan are descendants of the legendary Ryuma,
the God of the Blade, who was also one eyed samurai, just
like Zoro and who whose zombie we met on right, And Ryuma honestly looked
kind of similar. Obviously like he's a zombie his body's decade, but kind
of looked similar to Zoro. I'm telling you, man, Zoro was actually
bored in Jano. It just got lost animy, says mink Go to doctor
healed Zoro. Yes, that he was there too, and the nurse,
the Lama nurse or something. And the point is it wasn't signs that healed
him. It was the power of friendship. Jordan's message in chat, I
caught up to one piece. Now, why couldn't y'all have started at five
vst. Well, it's your fault. You weren't caught off, Jordan.
It's one piece, bro, I'd be caught up. I mean, I'm
fullish. I literally read the chapters yesterday. I like real honestly, I
really do enjoy reading them like once per month. Now. I love going
back to back chapters. It's so much better than reading one chapter and it's
been like going crazy, like wanting more. Yeah, I'm really interested in
this Shimotski clan because I've always thought that Zoro would his whole you know,
Samurai stick. He was somehow related to Wanno, but we didn't know how.
And we know that Tolki her family was outside of Wanna and she was
born outside of Wano, and her whole thing was trying to get back to
Wano. So I wonder if this Shimotski clan or descendants of it, like
Zoro ended up like outside of Wano all the way back eight hundred years ago
when the ancient war cames was happening, kind of like Toki's parents. Well,
I think it's sosible that even the Wanna has been closed, people have
a like Odin's left clearly Tokey used to be or was wanting to go back.
So it's possible that they made their way to the East Blue at some
point and there's lineage elsewhere, or Zoro was born in Wana and just got
lost. He wasn't born in Well, that's my theory. I'm standing by
it. Zoro was born in Wanna one day ended up on a boat.
Oops, I'm in the East Blue anyway. The point is, I do
wonder if like his family for many generations has been in the East Blue from
before the ancient war, kind of like Tokey and then she had to go
into the future in order to get to to Wano, or whether it's like
you said, like a more recent thing, just one faction fled one or
like let's see thirty years ago rather than eight hundred years ago. M yeah,
I don't know, but there's there's definitely some some big connection between Like
now that they're cold, they're kind of confirming it by saying like he looked
similar to this clan and honestly he looks were similar to Rhuma in my opinion,
like um back in thriller Bark You Got, You Got his fighting style
and the fact that he clearly kind of resembles a samurai and the way he
fights right, Alan says, bro Zoro and Toki both have green hair.
What if she's his mother? Well another thing, so Zoral teacher was from
Wana. That would make sense as to why he fights that way. Yeah,
but it's clearly implied that he's more than just he learned stuff from wan
Or right, Yeah, he seems to be descending from Wana. Um.
In terms of Toki, I don't know when she would have done this,
but I mean, I guess she can travel through time, but she never
mentioned another child. If she had another child, I feel like she would
have mentioned it. Sorry, repeat what you said about what would you reading?
Oh my god, my house is on Okay, well please turn it
off, guys, give me one second. Um anyway, what did what
did you reading? Chat about Toki having another child? Like he was just
saying because she has green hair, Zoro's green hair, Mamber, she's secretly
Zoro's mother. I do not even know Toki had green hair. It could
happen in terms of her like traveling through time, right, Would that mean
that Zoro and Momo are siblings? It would, But what I'm saying is
I doubt it just because she would have mentioned I have another son. Where's
my mother's son. I'm looking for him, you know? Yeah? No,
I do not think so. I didn't. Really. Green hair is
the only connection that you guys are going off of also being from from Wado.
I mean, if possible that they're they're related right in some way?
Um, yeah, it's not even necessary for Zoro to be related to Wanda,
like you said, it could be just a teacher thing, but they
clearly seem to be going for that though, depending with this whole Schimotski thing
exactly, Zoro bro are we are we ready to move on to the final
chapter here? Yeah, I'm not sure where the final chapter is, but
is that where where Kat and dog boys turn into sue long form? Yes,
the dog and Cat Kings become go sou long because of the full moon
and they vowed to avenge our boy Pedro. Didn't they already go into the
su long form? I guess maybe it's still a full moon. That's why
now that they're heel, they're able to go back into it. Yeah they
did. I forget when exactly that was, To be honest with you,
it was against earlier on. But yeah, I don't I don't know how
much time has went back, has the horror has gone by? I should
say, yeah, it's hard to tell, like because for us it's been
months and months and months. For them, it's probably like an hour yeah.
Yeah, Jack was briefly shown as well. Oh yeah, well Jack
was in like some hybrid form, right, yeah, some different form.
Dude. Jackson's gonna take another ol. Boys, let's there ain't a drought
when it comes to him. I am not. I am not, you
know, expecting much from Jack, Dude. I was so excited when I
first, like, Jack was first introduced, and it's just been like L
after L. I honestly think he's just gonna get wrapped here. Yeah,
because Jack is supposed to be in the same level as King and Queen.
It's the three of them, right, they're lead performers. It's definitely not
been that way. M dude. I know, I'm I might be skipping
ahead a little bit, but I need to talk about it. Momo asks,
bro, what's her name? That old ninja lady? She no boo,
that old ninja lady. Yes, she has the ability to make people
older. And you get like half of a panel where well one she does,
and he's now twenty eight years old and you see like half of his
arm and he looks swollen as hell, and she's like, my lord,
you look just like and then you see him in this fucking huge dragon form
afterwards. Yeah, presumably wild I was his father, which is crazy.
Yes, exactly, it looks just like Odd and dude, I was freaking
out while reading this. Yeah, that's so crazy because, as I guess,
as a kid, his dragon form is that small dragon we've seen before,
but as an adult he's able to create a drant form that is as
big as Kaido's. Oh yeah, it's more similar similar to Kaido when his
form is creative, because his form is like his devil fruit is an artificial
version of Kaido's fruit. Right, Yes, when he does turn into a
dragon, the people around there who didn't see exactly what happened, they might
be a further bit further background, like Yo, is that Kaido? How
to fund the Kaido get here? Because they literally thought it was Kaido?
You know how funny would it be? Twenty eight? He looks like Tokey,
Lord, you look just like Tokey. Yeah, I was playing around
animal dudes like plot twist moment looks just like Kaido and Odin's wife has some
splaining to do. It's so fucking funny. Doesn't look like bro. I
am so pumped to see Lufy flying on top of Momo. Back to fight
Kaido. Yeah, it's back tony. Goshaw, that's gonna be crazy because
I was thinking, like, how is Lufy gonna make like a grand entrance
back into the fight after being taken down, you know, knocked out and
left for dead basically by Kaido? And this is gonna be perfect where he
rides in on top of Momo's dragon. For him, it's like, let's
go bitches. Apparently there's a meme going around that adult Momo looks like white
Beard since they were on his ship. God damn it, guys, Okay,
guys, don't don't do that. Wooden's not a cuck. Okay,
don't old and likes to watch No, don't, don't. Don't do this
too much of a chat is great, dude, I don't want him.
But anyway, I don't think Momo is gonna have like, Oh, Momo
should be able to fly, obviously, but I don't feel have much control
of um, Like he barely had control when he was younger. But I
guess maybe down the older, maybe he has more control of his body potentially,
but he won't be able to use the fruit in a similar way to
Kaido. Oh, I think Momo will do something cool. But I don't
think he'll be like the deciding factor. No, he's gonna be able to
fly Lufy up there and maybe he'll get one beam on Kaido or something.
Yeah, it's cool, though, I'm so excited. I still think Tokyo
will come back. I think she's the one that saved the Scabbards, so
I think it'll be cool to have Toky and Momo reunited. Hokey saved the
Scabbards. I thought it was anell oh, stop breaks, just stop at
least knucks year, so you have to knocks knucks. I need to put
in some effort to me him since it's just me and you. But were
fantastic man. Yeah, And as Chat mentioned before we started the podcast,
if you look at one piece, chapter three ten, to cover story for
three ten, so all the way over seven hundred chapters ago, there is
a cover story with Lufy, Robin and USAP in ancient Japanese traditional clothing.
And this is way before wandoh obviously Lufy's this is how many years ago we're
on chapter A thousand and twenty three. This was chapter three hundred ten.
Oh my god, okay, continue eighteen years ago. I have no idea.
Yeah. Ago, you see the Kozuki clan's logo or emblem on Lufy's
outfit, and you see a dragon in the background that looks kind of like
Kaido, but its color is pink. Yeah, and that is probably the
color of Momo's dragon. So Momo's dragon form was foreshadowed in a cover story
for in chapter three ten everybody, but not only was the Kazuki clan for
a shadowed and Wano for a shadowed but also a pink dragon. Like,
are you Oda? There's no way. I refused to leave. I refuse
to believe it. Man, I'm telling you he has like a storyboard plan
planning main points out decades in the future, because I mean that's necessary,
right, because one Piece is such a story where although you have separate arcs
on the weight to the one piece, the you know, the final destination,
everything has to fit in because it is one journey. So if Oda
was just pulling it out of his ass as he went, eventually there would
be issues and inconsistencies and it wouldn't be smooth sailing, you know, to
use it. Yeah, following we know that Oda is that crazy because back
in chapter seventy nine, or something like that. In the first like one
hundred chapters, as they're going over Reverse Mountain, Sundry makes a comment implying
that he's that, like, traversing reverse Mountain is possible, and then what
seven hundred, eight hundred chapters later we find out that Sandry had went over
the red line. Yeah, with his dad and stuff. Yeah, yeah,
like like and because he wasn't from the East Blue, wasn't he from
the north North Blue? I don't. I don't remember exactly he's went over
the red line before my mom was blown him? Like how like he must
have had songs. He's two backstories to a certain extent planned out from the
beginning. Yeah, yeah, I feel like he plans like the general important
points decades ahead of time, and then like he fills in the blanks as
this journey, you know, gets to those points. But yeah, so
he had you know, Momo, his dragon devil fruit, the Kolzgi clan,
he had planned out seventeen years ago. I wonder if I were to
go back to because I remember the the Yankos were referenced referenced in like the
first like one hundred chapters at some point, right, I want to go
back to their silhouettes and see if like they kind of resembled like white Beard
and Kaido and Shanks. They probably I'm like, dude, I am obsessed
with one Piece now, like I need to go, but we got to
do another one piece. Virgin fuck the Narato Virgin No Nargil is freaking fire
right now too. But Pie is so crazy because you have over a thousand
chapters and so much lore and so much stuff within those chapters, and you
know the cover stories. It makes you want to like go through every cover
story with like a freaking magnifying glass, just like looking at all the hints
and shit. Yeah, I am I've never been more invested in a series
in my life. I mean that's fair. One Piece has been insane.
Yeah, so I'm really looking forward to seeing the rest of Yamato versus Kaido
fight. Yama will not be able to take him on alone, but eventually
Lufy's coming with Momo the Dragon, and obviously Zoro is back in fighting shape
and Sangie's fighting, so yeah, man, shit is gonna go down.
Bro. Someone in chats brought this up story. I have to, I
have to bring this up before we end it. But so obviously, like
Sanji's two brothers are like artificially designed, and so was Sanji. So even
though lunarians are extinct and or like literally King's the only one left, maybe
some of their DNA could have been used in the creation of them, which
is Vega punk found like the origin of human DNA or something like that they
called it, right, Yeah, so it's possible. That's why he's able
to like use fire, because he has some type a small amount of lunarian
DNA and that's why his eyebrows like the way they do. Is supposed to
be a failure, right yea, his experiment is supposed to have failed in
turning him into like this, you know, cybernetic you know, legend or
a fighter. However, who knows there are some side effects that Judge may
not have been able to anticipate that are going to merge. Eventually, one
of his brothers could use light, similar to like Minx or something. Right,
So maybe Sandry got like the fire from lunarians. Yeah, I possible,
But then again, Lufy also was able to create fire somehow, so
it doesn't need to be the case. Bro Lufy makes fire from meat,
consumes meat, and fires on the fire, so it goes exactly. I
love that it's cannon that Lufy just like need to eat a bunch of meat
and he's like good to go. Yeah, I know. It's like in
any other series you'll be like, yo, this is such a stupid bullshit.
But um, in One Piece, it just works. Yeah. In
reality, um, one Piece makes it like That's the thing. The thing
between the One Piece does so well is it mixes very serious and emotional moments
with humor in a way that when something silly happens, like Lufy using meat
to become, you know, to recover, you accepted because humor has always
been such an important part of the story. Yes, and it's also been
established that the amount of energy he burns in his like different gears, he
needs to replenish, So maybe his physical injuries might not recover, but he
like he needs to consume stuff to get to be to get going again.
So it's could both comedic and kind of makes sense within the world of Wumpies
like Oda really does just he just kills it, man. Yeah, yeah,
man. A lot of cool stuff happening for sure, Otsi and the
Chat says. Some people claim that Sanji was also success successfully born as like
he modified human like his siblings, but the failure came to the fact that
the raid suit worked as the catalyst for unlocking the dormant potential. I mean,
I'm not sure about the raids suit itself, but I do think that
it's possible that Sanji was also success, but just in a different way,
in a way that wasn't apparent right away, whereas with his brothers it was
apparent away, and his sister or what was the sister not an experiment?
Was she also exp They were all experiments, And I think that maybe for
Sanji it's like he was maybe a partially success but majority failure, or like
there was some dormant things that actually worked but didn't work right away. Yeah,
exactly, because um yeah, if unless it's something that's apparent right away,
his father would have been like, oh, your failure. But yeah,
it makes it makes no sense for the raids to to have like to
unlockabilities or like, because he's been using fire since fucking it has lobby m
hm hm. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see. Like, I really,
I really do feel that Oda has plans for all of these guys,
Like you know, Zoro's he has a backstory plan for him. We're gonna
get it. Um. For Sanji, he has all these explanations, probably
respelling his mom. It's all going to be revealed, Um, Tolki,
It's gonna be revealed, you know. Yeah, man like Joe Boy,
all this stuff, it's been planned from the beginning or very early on,
you know, to say the least. He apparently Soldry said that he's felt
weird since using the raid suit, so maybe that could also be a possibility.
But yeah, but I'm not sure if not for the fire, I
don't know if that's a physical thing or if it's like an emotional thing.
I feel weird because I'm using my father's technology and I don't like him.
Yeah, that's also possible. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see very interesting
stuff for sure. And you know, there's the thing with one piece is
there are so many moving parts and so many kind of missing pieces still that
you can theorize for years, because you know there's you have a ton of
pieces of information you can draw on, and yet there's enough missing that you
can't say for sure, Okay, I've figured everything out. Here's how it
goes. Because you just don't have that information. You don't have enough information
about joy Boy, you don't have enough information about um, the ancient civilization,
the War, the Void century, the Moon. You have bits and
pieces and you can make cool theories from it, but there's no way you
know for sure. It's not like you know a mystery where you know the
solution is there and you just need to find it because someone would have found
it by now. Man, there's millions of people trying to find it exactly
exactly, all right, brother, I think that's where we wrap it up.
This has been a fantastic episode. Yeah, honestly, anything else you
want to you want to cover before we call it, no, just saying
one piece has been fire and really enjoying the chapters now respect to Black Murray
versus Robin. That ship was amazing. Hell yeah, um really looking forward
to Yama to versus Kaido and see how that ends. Looking forward to Lufy
showing up on a Momo on the Dragon. So much stuff going on.
Man, I'm gonna see what Zoro's gonna do with King. I feel like
we're about to get something about the Lunarians and potentially about Zorro's backstory as well.
Yeah. It want Arrow's backstory so badly bro and too long. I
feel like I have everyone in the crew Zorol like his backstory just didn't it
was was showed her and less significant to me, you know. And I
also think that Tolki's gonna show up. I've been saying this for months now,
but I think she is going to do something cool. And she don't
forget she was around during the Void century. I'm sure she has some mystery,
you know, some piece of the puzzle that she's going to reveal,
even even if she ends up dying, Like let's say she's injured from before
she did the time skip, because we saw her get severely injured. Let's
say she's injured and she's dying, but she she comes back just long enough
to reveal something and to see Momo and all this type of stuff, um
emotional and blah blah blah blah. I feel like she will reveal something and
it's gonna be great. And I mean, Naruto is fired too right now
in terms of where we are in the Naruto urgin, So definitely check that
out. If you enjoy one piece version, it's the same deal except for
Naruto and We're about four hundred chapters in and I think we're reading up to
four twelve for next week, So tune into that separate podcast. Just find
it wherever you get your podcasts. Sounds good. Thank you guys everyone in
the chat for donating and supporting us and chatting and freaking out over theories.
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