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finger Discount. Ye. Welcome to
fourthing, a discount, the podcast where

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we always take revenge on our contractors. This week we're here to review episode

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J A b F zero five.
It is episode eleven of season eighteen.

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Revenge is a dish best served three
times. I am Dando, I am

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Elliot, j O'Neill, Wow,
what happened to you guy? Sexy all

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of a sudden? Or sexy year? I should say sexy year sexy somehow

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both younger rand border? I would
say you're border you guys? Yeah?

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Probably, Well we'll both took our
heads in the Shino baller and make embarrassons

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afterwards, I reckon right now though, guys getting his teeth just all dismantled

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by some crazy dentist in BALI that's
reading it to Barli's. Barley's not Barzer

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here. Barley is around still,
guys, don' worry about that guy is

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not here. This week're enjoyed,
of course by Elliot j O'Neill. You

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may have heard before on the podcast
Fourthing a discount as well as the day

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w podcast. I do here in
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that every single week. But since
guys away in Barley get his teeth fixed,

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we thought who better than to fill
the seat than Elliott j O'Neill,

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So thank you for joining you,
sir, No worries and yeah, fresh

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off my own dental work. I
had a crown put in last week.

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In fact, what is a crown
put in? What actually is it?

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Now? I get told off by
Nikola I won't pronounce the action of crown

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because she's like, it's not crazy
because I say crown. Nicolas just opened

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the door. Can do you hear
me? Nicholas heard we are travel and

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Elliot's wave as well that it so
basically when I say words like crown,

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but I say crown instead of crayon, right, So do you say crayon

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or crown? I say, I
say crown. I'm the worst person to

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ask. I pronounced things so weird
all the time, like every time,

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like especially letters like the letter B
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Sometimes I go bay like and for
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if I'm talking about the BBC,
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or the or the b No,
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BBC. You said the BBC,
right, I was talking about the British

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Broadcasting Channel or whatever it's called.
But yeah, anyway, we're here to

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talk about our revenge as at dish
best so three times not gonna lie listeners.

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When I said to Alie this is
what we're doing, he goes,

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oh, god z his death.
So basically, for anyone who hasn't listened

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to The Simpsons Index, you've been
on the show before, you've explained,

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but just in case they've listened to
this for the first time they've ever heard

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of your show, what is it
executive that you do on the Simpsons Index

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podcast and why is it that you've
already reviewed this episode A couple of times.

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Well, yeah, over at the
Simpsons Index, we used to review

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three episodes at a time, with
each one coming from a different decade.

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We used to get into like talking
about how the show had changed over you

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know, the three different eras that
it was in then when it started.

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Now it's like ballooned out to four. But yeah, so recently we did

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catch up and we've reviewed about the
first nineteen seasons. But yeah, so

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now we're just more or less reviewing
the newest stuff while still being from the

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last fifteen years whatever define newer,
Like where are you currently at? What

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are you doing? So we've completed
the first nineteen seasons and we're currently catching

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up on everything from season twenty and
after doing them in chronological order or he

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just no, essentially random order.
Like sometimes I'll pick an episode to cater

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two the guests, because yeah,
we have a different guest on every week,

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and yeah, I'll try to pick
an episode that maybe pertains to their

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interests or something. I like to
get a lot of other different podcasters on,

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Like an episode we got coming out
soon, I got Steve from Cinemarcade

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coming out. It's a video game
movie podcast, So there was a recent

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episode about roadblocks that we reviewed with
him, and that was a lot of

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fun. And I'm forgetting your first
question already. Oh why have I reviewed

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this episode a bunch? So on
what? I reviewed this episode with the

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other Simpsons podcast Worst Episode Ever who
exclusively delve into bad Simpsons, and I

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also reviewed it, yeah, with
my regular co host. So yeah,

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I've already reviewed this episode twice.
But you know what, reviewing revenge is

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a best dish best of three times
is worth reviewing three times, So let's

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go. It's like, it makes
sense, right, It's funny how the

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unified theory of for figure disc and
all works out that way. But I'm

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not gonna lie. I mean,
I'm never a huge fan of these trilogy

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episodes that they seem to sort of
start doing in the teen seasons. Never

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used to do this back in the
day, you had your trilogy, you

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had your sorry Trios of horror.
They did. They did do the what

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was that one where they had the
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the spinoff showcase. They did that. Yeah, was there any other trilogy

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ones in the in like that what
the people call the Golden Era? No,

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because even Bible stories were Season ten, and I think a lot of

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people will debate if that's classic or
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of in the Golden Year, like
it's still it's it's around close enough,

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I guess, yeah, no,
absolutely, And I mean even the next

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one after that, Simpson's Tall Tales. That's an episode I actually love,

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I'm gonna be honest, and that's
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yeah, the trilogy episodes did become
annualized in the teen's era, and I

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think it's either this season maybe season
seventeen that had two of them. Innute

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as well. Okay, I just
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the trilogy ones because I'm never a
huge fan of them, and nothing I

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dislike this one. I just thought
there wasn't much to it, and I

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did. It's funny they made the
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could have been a Halloween episode,
the Batman one. That one totally could

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have been a Halloween Treos of Horror
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I don't really know why it wasn't, or maybe it just didn't make the

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cut for this year's Treehouse of Horror
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Batman Begins was still kind of relevant, I mean relevant pertaining to assist Simpson's

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turnaround of a parody. But still
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I speculate. But yeah, it
came out in two thousand and five,

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didn't it. So January two thousand
and seven is still pretty relevant.

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Yeah, relevant enough. Yeah,
we're probably just on the cusp of Dark

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Knight coming out. Yeah, it's
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just the Batman story, right,
It's just the titles I play on Batman

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Begins. No, that's and that's
part of my problem with this segment as

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well, is that it doesn't know
whether it wants to be like new,

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serious, gritty Batman or old campy
sixties Batman. But we'll get to it.

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What is your favorite kind of Batman? Oh ah hmm, that's a

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good like. I just got so
much love and affection for the Tim Burton

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Batman movies obviously, you know,
nostalgia and everything. They're the ones I

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grew up on, especially Batman Returns. I feel like that's the better of

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the two. See, I grew
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ones. A shoemaker. Oh that's
good campy, yeah yeah. And I

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look back now and I'm like,
I know these are poorly not poorly made.

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They're not poorly makers. I've designed
to sell fucking toys and shit and

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that's exactly what they did, right
And did they ever some of that one?

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Long live the days McDonald's had good
ship in the happy meals? Right

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yeah? Right? No, A
vivid memory of still having that two face

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cup. You know, it was
my favorite cup when I was d all

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four, still on my fridge in
the back of the garage. I still

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bust about occasionally. You don't say, oh awesome, I could never get

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all. That's what I want to
do with the nerd Daddy YouTube channel.

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Excuse I managed to monetize it.
And I'm just like, I want to

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start doing videos focusing on like just
cool nostalgia shit like that, like the

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do you remember the the They had
the Flintstones ones as well, all the

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Flintstones ones, the glass glasses,
Oh really, I don't remember those ones.

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No, do you remember the the
space space the NBA big giant cups

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from macas where you pour the drink
into it and it would make the logos

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of the basketball teams appear. Oh
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nineties days of like color changing and
hypercolor T shirts and all that sort of

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stuff. Yeah, and the nineties
logos of the NBA were the best.

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Anyone says, like everyone loved the
Hornet's logo. Well, yeah, I'm

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not much of a sports guy.
I like my sports entertaining, as we

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know for doing thed w But yeah, I'll take your word for it.

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The nineties were the best for wrestling, the best for NBA, the best

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for everything that's for Simpsons, they
were the best for a lot of things.

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Yes, obviously we are putting our
old man caps on right now.

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I complain about that. But to
this episode, you said you didn't like

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it, that you didn't like it, or you're sick of reviewing it.

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Look, I I'm wondering if I'm
going to contradict previous podcasts that I've made

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about this episode. But I don't
think I was gonna interject there. I

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don't think you can contradict because I
feel like your tastes change over time.

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Yeah, so Guy and I go
back and revisit episodes from the first ten

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seasons that he wasn't around for when
we originally did the show, when I

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did it with Mitch, and my
opinions on some episodes completely changed because I've

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either become married since or had a
kid since, and it's just your taste

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change. It doesn't mean that you're
going against what you said before. It's

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just you're a different person now,
so you're watching it differently. Yeah,

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that's a good point, But I
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I reviewed these episodes like two and
three years ago, so I don't know

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how much has changed. But look, I think maybe on this viewing,

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I was a little bit more forgiving
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I was in for and what I
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sort of at a set level,
but I still came away from it feeling

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flat, and you know, look, best you can hope for in this

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sort of like there's a handful of
good jokes, but ultimately I just sort

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of felt like, what was the
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even the Simpsons were asking themselves at
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the point of that? And Yeah, if the show itself is asking that,

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yeah, then you as the audience
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fuck me. I guess that's usually
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I keep forgetting you can see whatever
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We don't like the sea bomb in
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that This is the thing. I
quite often come out of these trilogy episodes

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like what you're just saying there where
it's just kind of thinking of it's kind

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of the thought of, well,
what was the point of watching this?

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Like, you know the episodes I
say, Cannon, they're not really canon

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anymore. They're all in a vacuum. It's just you know, entertain me

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for twenty two minutes. That's sort
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You can't really worry about cottonnuity anymore. I mean when I went to dinner

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with Matt, he was just like
for cottonuity. He went on this ten

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minute spielbo why cottnuwity doesn't matter?
And I'm like, okay, so I

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will never bring that weight up again
every in your presents, But so continuity

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doesn't really matter anyone. Sometimes I
just can't help myself, Like, for

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example, last week on the show, you had Millhouse's parents with Millhouse together

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again. I was like, hang
on, So they got back together in

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a last season, but there's been
no mention of it since the last time

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we saw them. She found Marge's
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cheating, and then that was it. And I was like, there was

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no resolution to that story, but
they're still together. And then the big

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one for me that's really annoyed me
in recent times is how Bart found Nelson's

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dad. And I loved how Nelson's
dad returned and it was like, okay,

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cool, a new direction for the
Nelson character, you know. And

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then there's been no mention of his
father since it's back to him living alone

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with his single strip of mother,
and I'm just like, how do you

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bring in a character like that and
changed the felt like the landscape of the

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character like a new direction. He's
in a loving family now, and then

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you just never mentioned it again.
I'm like, what is this now?

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That's the thing with the whole continuity
argument, and I get and I do

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sympathize with the Simpsons writers and whatever, because you still have to write a

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show that feels relevant to the time
and whatever, and doing that uticulturally things

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you do have to kind of ignore
the continuity of earlier episodes. But it's

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also that thing where they're trying to
have it both ways, right, like

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continuity it doesn't matter until it does. That's the sort of philosophy. And

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you know, and like, look, these trilogy episodes, I do give

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a little bit more leeway because you
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they're just a bit of fantasy.
Let's see the Simpsons, cous players,

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some other characters, and how do
we simpsonsize this story? And yeah,

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I guess that's my main problem with
these ones is that aside from the

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Count of Monte Cristo, they really
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wasn't a solid idea for either of
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the Count of Monte Cristo one,
I think I spent too much time with

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stupid, pointless jokes and not enough
time sort of honoring that story. Really,

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too with these trilogy ones, and

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that if you don't understand the source
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they just fall flat. You don't
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then you'd be like, what is
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a kid, I'm watch just going
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even reviewing this for a third time
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and read the book, seen any
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still have no real familiarity with the
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You've seen Revenge of the Nerds,
right, the films? Yeah, that

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has absolutely nothing to do with what
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of that. That movie does not
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from a what's acceptable today for women's
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all fronts. Like I my ex
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this is my favorite childhood movie.
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were both like, oh, okay, that just happened, you know.

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time. I remember joining them as
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segment though, I think overall,
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the most. But butman beginns wasn't
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that you didn't like them. But
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bully arm that the what was it? What was the actual name for it?

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They had it, they wrote it
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be in a trivia, shouldn't it
the get back a ratura. It was

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a get back of something, wasn't
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have been a trius of horror story
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if it was like the way he
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resulting in them being killed or something. You know, Yeah, I guess

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it's maybe it's the problem of the
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to flesh out and make that turn
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at least it goes, oh,
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is like, I'm now mad with
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dime, and like it really just
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think it's like probably joke wise the
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or something. I did like the
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serpent and whatnot. That's the that's
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You know, I'm all about campy
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time ago on the podcast. People
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just I'm done with dark Batman.
I'm just that it was. It was

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great for the trilogy, but every
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formula, and every superhero film in
general has tried to copy that formula,

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especially in DC. And I'm just
like, ough, can we just go

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back to having fun again? Why
doesn't Batman dance anymore? Yeah, Jesus

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Christ, Look, it's nothing superhero
like. The DC films aren't fun.

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No, what do you think of
the Robert Pattinson Batman? Though? The

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Matt Reeves one I got halfway through
and fell asleep. You don't say,

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oh, I really liked that one, Like, although I watched it on

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a plane, and I feel like
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of crap is goes a lot higher, so I'm beling to give it that.

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just tig because you know when you're
when you're a daddy, you and you

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get time to watch movies late at
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so I try to watch the episodes
now when I'm going to do reviews once

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I've taking the kids a day.
Yeah, fresh in the morning. I'm

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feeling cherry ripe because I used to
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was like, worst episode ever.
And then I'd like, rewatch it that

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afternoon and go not so much the
worst episode ever. Yeah, it's funny

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how that. Yeah, the time
of day couldn't impact such a thing,

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but it really can. Yeah,
that's why Guy like enjoy I said it

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Guy, because Guy was getting just
like this was terrible. This was terrible.

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I was like, when did you
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eleven o'clock last night. I'm like, dude, don't watch it before you

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get to bed, Like you're too
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podcast before twenty twenty, where the
thing happened, like we used to always

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watch it together in a group,
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I find that people are more inclined
to actually laugh when they're in a group

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of people, And I felt like
watching the episodes like that gave especially the

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newer ones, the best chance possible, because yeah, if you're just watching

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cramming before the podcast tomorrow. Yeah, you're likely to be in a bad

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mood. But yeah's have a couple
of friends over poor some nice soda pop

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and yeah, have some popcorn.
It's a yeah, it's a better time.

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But having said that, some of
the episodes still can put you in

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a bad mood, even with all
the best circumstances. I've only had two

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or three so far that made me
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podcast be well away because I tore
them to shreds. Do you think,

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well, do you think maybe the
way you did your show back in the

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original run, with the three episodes
like the Golden Ear more middle tier than

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Lady Seasons? Do you think doing
it like that gave the teen era and

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the latter ones less of a chance
of you enjoying them because you had a

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direct comparison to an older episode,
so you're comparing it to the best of

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the best. Because I feel like, because we've been doing them in chronological

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order, we're reviewing all these episodes
together like the sort of the same season

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altogether. I don't think they come
across as bad. But if I was

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backing them up with say, Homer
the Heretic and the this one, I'd

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be like, oh my god,
why can't I be more like this?

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So do you think because you did
it like that, you dislike these ones

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more because you were sort of comparing
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watching season eighteen in a vacuum.
Yeah, well, look for the first

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twenty episode, sorry for the first
twenty episodes of the podcast, we were

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reviewing them Classic Teens, new and
we found that our energy levels, which

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are so bad at the end of
the night because like it's long process recording

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the podcast like that, and then
yeah, we were tired. We were

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kind of over it by the time
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So yeah, very early on we
made the decision, Okay, we've

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got to start with the new ones
and end good, because yeah, it

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would always be like that, we'd
be bitching about the new one, especially

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in comparison to the fucking excellent episode
that we watched at the start of the

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evening. So yeah, we started, did you watch watch one review it,

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watch one review it, watch one
review it. Okay, so you

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didn't watch them all beforehand then review
them, Okay, I see. Yeah.

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Yeah, because as well, like
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people generally have more familiar with the
teens, but like it would have a

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thing that if we did watch them
in a cluster and then review them,

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that like we'd conflate and like think
some things were from an episode and they

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were actually from a different one.
So yeah, we had to separate them

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as well. Like, and I
think that's the beauty with all these Simpsons

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podcasts is like we've all each got
our different methodology of doing things and like

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reviewing them. And this is just
the approach that I wanted to take,

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is to be able to sort of
directly compare. Is like not coming in

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on the foot of like New Simpsons
is bad or anything. It's just like,

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okay, what's different about it?
And like we having the three episodes

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as a way to directly compare and
starting with the new one like was really

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helpful in that way because we'd be
able to give the new ones a lot

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more credit as well, and like
yeah not like not just bitch out it

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instantly, and we'd have a good
starting place with the HD one to be

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able to go, yeah, nothing's
right with me, and then like try

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to figure out out and then by
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like, oh, I've just it's
just occurred to me, what's different here

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because we've watched the classic era one. Yeah, my favorite what'll be your

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favorite moments from the episode, Davis, mister, Ah, my favorite moments?

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My favorite moments. Look, I
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Millhouse for Revenge, I like I
loved the get back and eight to all

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the different settings that it had,
wasn't it. Yeah? Yeah? And

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we talk about the comedy rule of three,

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and you know, all the different
settings that this had. This was

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like a comedy rule of fifteen or
something like that. Like, I really

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liked the escalation on the jokes where
it started out with your standard school yard

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bullying stuff, wedge purple purple noogies, pink bellies, but then to progress

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wet Willie, dry Willie, and
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nasty Jackson and genital hospital. I
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as a kid. I was gonna
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think you actually had done to you? Or were you the bully? Oh

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no, I was the youngest of
three boys. I definitely had everything before

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kidney stoning. I wasn't necessarily bullied. I wasn't bullied physically. I was

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bullied mentally because I was like the
fat it at school. So I was

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just all right. I was just
like I've said on I was referred to

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as titties all the time. Yeah, many of per pulling uple in my

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time as well. Yeah, yeah, I know all too well. I

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enjoyed the French snare. Yeah.
So I go back and forth on the

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French jokes in this one because they're
so like surface level, but they are

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kind of funny, like especially if
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language, like in the prison.
Instead of going ooh la la Homer guys

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uder the yeah, and that's just
caught me off. God damn, that's

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good. But the snare like it's
the most basic of stereotypes. But that's

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what the show is, you know, And I think it's the kind of

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thing that even French people just have
to laugh at, right, you could

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have a sense of humor about these
kind of things. But it reminds me

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what was the It was a trilogy
of error where they go she goes to

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the French school, yeah, and
they all like laugh and then they go

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no, no, no. He's
like, oh yeah. I also enjoyed

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Homer saying how deep is this tunnel
and he's fall straight at the wall.

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Yeah, birds spent thirty years digging
this tunnel. It's like a brick deep.

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Yeah. But then again the extended
falling joke where Home is falling for

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ages and then when he crawls back
up the tower via the river as well,

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and then just like immediately drops straight
back in, and then they do

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that a couple of times, and
then Homer just goes, so, how's

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it going, And then Burns is
like, oh, like that one to

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me was just ah, you really
just I just felt like it was just

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yeah, to use a term for
a worst episode. Ever, this is

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like extra beat alarm, where yeah, you had the joke the good falling,

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Like, oh, that was a
surprise, didn't see that coming,

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and then you just dragged it out
so long. It reminds me kind of

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these Home has been known in the
past to repeatedly make the same mistake over

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and over again. Yeah that's true. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe

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it's just a taste thing, but
yeah, this, yeah, I did

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not think this was I was trying
to remember a French thing, Bond.

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This was not Bond. I also
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really, I thought the Diddler was
such a funny name. It's like I

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was, like, this is worth
it just for the segment of lanes.

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If I come up with the word
the didler, we have to write a

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segment around the diddler. Jesus like, because there isn't diddler like a word

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for a pedophile. But it's a
it's a joke, yeah, I know.

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But like, especially with Flanders and
I know the connection with religion and

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everything. It was just one of
those color tug sort of jokes for me.

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Oh but it's one of those jokes
where I think it's perfect for Simpsons

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because it flies under the radar for
kids. But as an you're like,

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fuck, I you say that into
a kids show. Yeah, that was

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very surprising. But another one that
it's like blink and you'll miss it.

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You probably would have missed it,
but here we are reviewing and taking down

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scrupulous note taking. Yeah, but
I was a kid watching this one.

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I just thought the Diddler was a
funny name because as a kid, I

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think it's just the Flanders version of
the Riddler. Yeah, so he said

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faced value. Yeah, like it's
very cleverly put put together with the pieces

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like that, but it is just
one that makes me I don't want to

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think of Flanders in that way.
Oh well it's a super villain, yeah

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I suppose. Yeah, there we
go, he's meant to be the villain.

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419
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Like I said, now, Alliott jair

420
00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:47.839
O'Neil, let's get into some trivia
questions. Oh okay, uh, what

421
00:26:48.000 --> 00:26:52.599
are the four satellite radio stations that
the family want to listen to? I've

422
00:26:52.599 --> 00:26:56.240
got leases because I'm My first question
was Chill Thunder I'm pretty sure how it

423
00:26:56.279 --> 00:26:57.880
puts on chill Thunder White? Is
that right? Yep? There we go.

424
00:26:57.960 --> 00:27:00.960
We got two other four. I
don't know the other two. What

425
00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:04.480
were they? Cool Waves and Neon
Breeze. Neon Breeze. So this is

426
00:27:04.559 --> 00:27:07.960
kind of nostalgic in the sense that
actually, no, we'll get to all

427
00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:10.160
that when they do the full in
death review. All right, So my

428
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:14.519
next question for you would be what
was the worst torture of all that Carl

429
00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:19.880
mentions that. Carl mentions, well, the worst of all except except for

430
00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:22.920
and then he says something else.
Yeah, well, the worst torture of

431
00:27:22.960 --> 00:27:26.400
all is not knowing and the rat
helmet, the rat helmets, yes,

432
00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:30.000
and now going to good night sleep. You've got a nine am rat helmet.

433
00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:33.839
Sometimes you read things and it's like
the way they torture people in medieval

434
00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:37.599
time. You're like, people did
this to people? What the oh?

435
00:27:37.680 --> 00:27:41.160
Yeah no? Growing up, you
know one of my favorite bands, Iron

436
00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:42.599
Maiden, It's like, what is
an Iron Maiden? Oh? God?

437
00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:49.880
Yeah, not good? Oh?
What were they seeing at the opera house?

438
00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:55.079
In Bartman begins What were they seeing? Ah, it's right there?

439
00:27:56.480 --> 00:28:00.200
Not what is it? Trick question
that didn't say just I remember this.

440
00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:03.559
I'm thinking of the scene where they're
walking out of the Opperao they say that

441
00:28:03.079 --> 00:28:07.119
not many kids have a parents that
can afford them to take them to the

442
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:11.240
opera every single night. My final
question for you will be actually, ah,

443
00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:15.519
this is actually I put in instead
of putting the trivia, put this

444
00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:18.119
in my trivia sort of should have
been my favorite moments I enjoyed the line

445
00:28:18.200 --> 00:28:22.799
of Millhouse saying having a weapon at
school has made things awesome. Yeah.

446
00:28:25.319 --> 00:28:27.160
Yeah, that was one where it
was like, yeah, Simpson's making a

447
00:28:27.240 --> 00:28:32.440
joke on society. That was okay, Yeah that was good. But yeah,

448
00:28:32.519 --> 00:28:37.000
my last tribute actually is also pertaining
to Millhouse and that segment. Why

449
00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:41.240
was he the one who was deemed
qualified to wield the get back in eighta?

450
00:28:42.200 --> 00:28:45.440
Um? What did he do that
qualified him most for it? Did

451
00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:49.480
he have like coordination or something?
Yeah, they said all it needs is

452
00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:55.000
a basic level of coordination and all
the odes wan is that the answer?

453
00:28:55.519 --> 00:29:00.759
No, Millhouse said is a judgling
care Yeah, juggle at camp. I

454
00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:03.000
was like, I'm like, like
that, there's something now I'm missing,

455
00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:07.240
something like a toup of your face. Yeah. I do love this joke

456
00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:10.759
because it doesn't he didn't juggle at
all or say he was good at juggling.

457
00:29:10.839 --> 00:29:14.200
He just said he took it at
camp. Like there was no skills

458
00:29:14.400 --> 00:29:18.200
proven demonstrably. It's just I took
juggling at camp. Did you ever go

459
00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:22.279
to a camp, like a themed
camp, not school camp, just a

460
00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:26.559
theme camp, like juggling camp or
something like that. No, not really,

461
00:29:26.799 --> 00:29:30.160
I was just the kind of kid
that in my spare time wanted to

462
00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:33.519
be in front of the TV with
video games or with friends in with video

463
00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:37.200
games and sort of stuff like that. I wasn't never inclined for sort of

464
00:29:37.240 --> 00:29:41.920
scouts or any of those like extracurricular
camping activities. Either I was a home

465
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:45.160
kid. I just loved being home, or I had like one or two

466
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:48.799
free friend's house where like they were
like my safe spaces, but like anywhere

467
00:29:48.799 --> 00:29:52.720
else I felt out of my comfort
zone. I'd have like panic attacks.

468
00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:53.920
I couldn't even do school camps,
man, I'd have like panic attacks.

469
00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:56.480
I just couldn't go to them.
I just have a fear like sleeping out

470
00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:59.839
at a place I wasn't comfortable with, but like they had like two or

471
00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:02.240
three friends, and like my NaN's
place in like one of my uncle's places.

472
00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:06.440
Anywhere else, No no deal.
Yeah. Wow, Like I had

473
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:10.119
a bit of that early on in
my childhood, and like my family still

474
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:12.039
make fun of me and like quoted
off and it's almost a meme in our

475
00:30:12.119 --> 00:30:15.839
household to go when I was I
don't know, I think I was only

476
00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:18.160
a four or something, but I
just started crying and I was like I

477
00:30:18.240 --> 00:30:22.039
want to go back to Elliott's house, and I'd still like quote in my

478
00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:27.119
family, I wet the bed till
I was like twelve, So I think

479
00:30:27.160 --> 00:30:30.200
that played a partner as well.
I was like the fear of wetting the

480
00:30:30.240 --> 00:30:33.319
bed at someone else's house. Yeah, sure, I've imagine being that kid

481
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:37.400
had pissed a bed at like a
fucking Grade five slumber party. Yeah,

482
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:40.599
there's worse thing to be called.
I'm starting to appreciate my family now.

483
00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:45.359
Won't forget my brother's for all the
purple nurples and nasty Jackson's. But still,

484
00:30:45.680 --> 00:30:48.400
I mean, at least as Billy
Madison taughtoise, you're not cool unless

485
00:30:48.440 --> 00:30:52.640
you peat your parts. Yeah,
that's it. That's it, all right.

486
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:56.279
So the original air date of Revenge
is a Dish Best Sir three Times

487
00:30:56.720 --> 00:30:59.799
was January twenty eighth, two thousand
and seven. It was written by A.

488
00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:03.359
H. Cohen and directed by Michael
Polsino. There was no chalk gag,

489
00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:06.680
but there was a couch gag.
It's where the Simpsons are infants who

490
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:08.759
crawled to the couch whilst Twinker Twink
a Little Stars playing in the background.

491
00:31:08.759 --> 00:31:11.960
After reaching the couch, they grew
up to their normal ages, except Maggie

492
00:31:12.160 --> 00:31:15.480
just remains a baby as per usual. So the episode kicks off with the

493
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:19.400
family apparently they're driving to the airport. I don't remember hearing Homer say that,

494
00:31:19.519 --> 00:31:23.359
but apparently he did. Yeah.
Well that at the end he goes

495
00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:26.559
like, we may have missed out
flight to Hawaii. Yeah, that should

496
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:30.000
have been a trivia question, yeah, because it was like on the on

497
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:33.960
the wiki page here it says Miami. Oh really, I wrote Hawaii.

498
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:40.400
It's so confusing, yeah, saying
family vacation. They're going on a family

499
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:42.240
drive, you know, with the
satellite radio. Yeah. But as I

500
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:45.480
was saying earlier, this was kind
of like nostalgia because remember when satellite radio

501
00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:48.359
was just sort of coming to the
into the fold and it's like you could

502
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:53.599
listen to like a themed channel.
It's like, WHOA, so cool man.

503
00:31:55.559 --> 00:31:57.200
No. One of my big things
for that was the introduction of double

504
00:31:57.279 --> 00:32:01.000
J. And it's like, yes, finally triple J for me. Yeah,

505
00:32:01.160 --> 00:32:07.079
old person And now even that it's
just like the double J's like we

506
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:09.359
need something older version of that for
me. Now. Yeah, we need

507
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:13.960
to go to J and then go
to No J and then yeah, the

508
00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:16.200
sing the songs that were on Double
J. I saw there's those songs that

509
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:19.720
were originally on Triple J when Double
J started are now in Double J,

510
00:32:20.160 --> 00:32:23.200
and Double J's pushed out the songs
that I liked. But I haven't listened

511
00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:27.880
to the radio in so long,
man. I listened, Oh, I

512
00:32:28.039 --> 00:32:30.559
like my sport so like I listened
to SEM, which is like the local

513
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:35.079
Melbourne sports radio station. So when
the footy season's on what we call AFL,

514
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:37.400
you your footy in Sydney's NRL.
But you know, when the footy

515
00:32:37.400 --> 00:32:40.599
season's on that or quick it or
whatever, just more talk back stuff.

516
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:45.160
But I never listened to music on
the radio anymore. I'm mostly either podcasts

517
00:32:45.319 --> 00:32:51.319
or talk back radio. Yeah,
I've found, yeah that I don't really

518
00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:55.319
I've never really been a fan of
radio anyway, because I get pretty frustrated,

519
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:59.599
Like I'm a big music fan,
and I just sort of get frustrated

520
00:32:59.640 --> 00:33:02.480
at the idea of hearing the same
sort of songs like more than ten times,

521
00:33:02.599 --> 00:33:06.759
like in a small space of time. And I generally like to listen

522
00:33:06.839 --> 00:33:10.640
to whole albums anyway, just as
my music tastes. And yeah, certainly

523
00:33:12.319 --> 00:33:15.200
as it's been easy to connect devices
to my car, which is where I

524
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:20.440
would have done most of my radio
listening. Yeah. Through that time,

525
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:22.880
I've gotten more into podcasts, which
is still funny to my dad, who

526
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:25.799
was like a lifelong talkback radio fan
and as a kid, I'd be like,

527
00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:30.559
did we listen to this shit?
Now I'm making podcasts, you know,

528
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:37.559
which is essentially Elliott he wants to
get clean about the clouds fully fully.

529
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:42.160
Uh. But yeah, so like
even sometimes I'll chuck on the radio

530
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:45.759
and then just quickly switch back to
yeah, Spotify or my podcast at because

531
00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:49.319
yeah, that's what I do most
of my listening on. Anyway, I

532
00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:52.880
just I sort of just get frustrated
with the radio format anyway. Yeah.

533
00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:55.720
Well see, so I started off
in radio and I very quickly realized this

534
00:33:55.880 --> 00:34:00.720
is not for me. You know, basically with Australian radio, you have

535
00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:05.759
to conform to a certain style,
a certain sound of voice. They all

536
00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:08.519
talk like this. They're trying to
Hamish and Andy. It's like, we're

537
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:12.599
so excited to be here, and
I'm like, you're not really excited like

538
00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:15.480
once you're working radio, Like,
oh, these guys aren't getting paid much

539
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:17.519
at all. They don't actually like
anything they're saying. It's all bullshit.

540
00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:22.239
They're not actually anything like their personalities. But I never forget Do you know

541
00:34:22.360 --> 00:34:24.079
Eddie McGuire, he's a big Yeah, yes, you know ed McGuire.

542
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:27.960
Right, I'll never forget right.
I met him when I was about twelve,

543
00:34:27.960 --> 00:34:29.800
and it's a photo of me with
Eddie. He was doing his speech

544
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:31.639
just like Q and a thing at
my and my mum's work when she was

545
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:35.599
working here in Geelong at the place
called Buckley's. And I remember he said

546
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:37.599
to me. I said to him, how do you get a job in

547
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:38.519
radio? I remember saying this,
man. I remember he said to me,

548
00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:43.840
he said, buddy, it's not
worth getting a job in radio unless

549
00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:46.360
you're somebody outside of radio, otherwise
you're never making any money. And I

550
00:34:46.480 --> 00:34:51.400
was like, how fucking right was
he? Yeah, that's brutal and true.

551
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:53.119
He said some wrong things in the
past, but you can quote him

552
00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:57.800
on that one. That's painfully accurate. Yes, if you're not a TV

553
00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:01.199
personality, don't even bother with radio. Yeah, no, because it's weird

554
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:05.920
because like I see things like Hughsey
has one of the biggest radio shows,

555
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:08.000
and it's like, surely you're making
enough money, dude, why are you

556
00:35:08.079 --> 00:35:13.639
hogging the airwaves from Yeah, another
local talent who could probably use the push.

557
00:35:13.760 --> 00:35:15.239
But it's just like no, because
no one had listened to the radio

558
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:19.199
for hughs He wasn't on it,
you know. Is he still one of

559
00:35:19.199 --> 00:35:22.119
the biggest radio shows US. I
wouldn't have a clue. Like I said,

560
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:24.400
don't listen to a lot of radio
thinking. I am going off billboards

561
00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:30.119
that I've seen in the past.
I've never got the whole Husy thing.

562
00:35:30.239 --> 00:35:32.480
You know, he's very successful what
he does, but we quite often I'm

563
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:38.159
making fun of Hughsey on this show
here for oh, one of Australia's premier

564
00:35:38.400 --> 00:35:43.760
entertainers. You know. It started
with the Snakes Alive bit and multimillions were

565
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:46.639
made off the back of that.
Have you seen guy got me onto this

566
00:35:47.159 --> 00:35:50.440
quick little side. We'll get back
to the episode in a second. But

567
00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:53.320
the meme of someone holding out three
packets of the back of cigarettes that look

568
00:35:53.400 --> 00:36:00.960
like Husy. So I am googling
this, immediately googles Hughsey cigarette packet meme.

569
00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:05.280
Oh my god, it's true.
So yeah, yeah, it's the

570
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:07.920
two like if you if you're aware
of cigarette packets anyway, Yeah, it's

571
00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:15.199
the two like smoking causes blindness,
and then one of the having a hard

572
00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:17.440
time looking at this and talking at
the same time, and the smoking fox

573
00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:22.599
with your teeth sing, and yeah, that is it's so weird, Like

574
00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:25.239
yeah, if you hagle it as
well, do you think of that?

575
00:36:29.599 --> 00:36:32.119
Just I'm surprised anyone had three packets
of cigarettes to look at it. It's

576
00:36:32.199 --> 00:36:36.880
like, yeah, I haven't smoked
in almost a decade now. My brothers

577
00:36:36.920 --> 00:36:38.360
asked me to pick up some packets
when I was going to hang out with

578
00:36:38.400 --> 00:36:40.840
them a couple of weeks ago.
It was like, yeah, just three

579
00:36:40.880 --> 00:36:45.119
packets. Yeah, no worries it. It's like one hundred and fifty dollars.

580
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:50.519
Yeah, my uncle's recently quit smoking, right, my uncle and his

581
00:36:50.599 --> 00:36:53.480
partner and it was about three years
ago and like a year they saved like

582
00:36:53.639 --> 00:37:00.239
forty to fifty grand Yeah, it's
mental, right, just yeah, like

583
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:05.760
just long going of the days when
they were like because I remember when I

584
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:07.440
was first turning eighteen, first started
going to the pubs, it was like

585
00:37:07.599 --> 00:37:13.639
that was then cigarettes were like jumping
into the double digits dollars and now,

586
00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:16.639
like I know, it's not the
same for a lot of your international listeners

587
00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:22.039
that cigarettes haven't got the tax like
that Australians have. But the shit,

588
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:23.880
I don't know. Maybe it's a
good thing, but yeah, one hundred

589
00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:27.079
percent is a good thing. I
mean, I've never smoked in my life.

590
00:37:27.480 --> 00:37:30.239
Apparently Nicholas just smoked when she drank, but yeah, I just I

591
00:37:30.239 --> 00:37:32.920
don't know. I've see people smoking
down I'm like, still doing that,

592
00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:37.400
huh cool. Yeah, I feel
smoke. It's weird listeners like who you

593
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:40.480
are in Australia. Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like it's hard to

594
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:44.400
find somebody smoking now. It's like
we hired them in a corner somewhere.

595
00:37:45.199 --> 00:37:47.320
Absolutely. No. I was at
the markets the other day and this old

596
00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:52.079
couple started lighting. A couple up
and like a couple of parents like walked

597
00:37:52.159 --> 00:37:55.360
up to them immediately like what are
you doing? There's children around here.

598
00:37:55.519 --> 00:38:00.760
Yeah, And I think that's the
right mentality. We should be like what

599
00:38:00.880 --> 00:38:02.320
are you doing? Like that's fine
if you want to do it so bit,

600
00:38:02.400 --> 00:38:06.719
but don't do it near me.
Yeah. And then yeah, vapes

601
00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:08.119
briefently were like, oh, it's
not cigarettes, and then they found out

602
00:38:08.320 --> 00:38:12.840
yes, the second hand vape is
just as bad. So and you go

603
00:38:13.000 --> 00:38:15.599
off off into the dark corner with
the smokers. Yeah, and we've banned

604
00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:22.239
you as well. Yeah. But
yeah, getting back to two chill funder

605
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:25.039
Light. Yeah, so I don't
know how we got to all that conversation

606
00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:29.840
after just talking about I was like
commercials and shit on radio. Yeah.

607
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:34.400
But but basically the rich textan cuts
off the Simpsons, Homer gets really angry,

608
00:38:34.400 --> 00:38:37.519
we get a really lame joke about
the war in Iraq. No,

609
00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:40.079
revenge doesn't get anybody anywhere. Why
are the US still in Iraq? I'm

610
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:43.400
like, oh God, are we
still talking about this? Okay? Yeah,

611
00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:46.480
and then Marge tells the first Revenge
story and I was like, oh,

612
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:52.039
it's one of these ones. It
was just such a really contrived setup

613
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:54.320
as well as like you know,
Homer, revenge doesn't work out well for

614
00:38:54.480 --> 00:38:59.400
everybody. How about this story?
It's like, here we go. It

615
00:38:59.519 --> 00:39:02.639
kind of from me of you know, this wasn't a trilogy story, but

616
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:06.239
as a trilogy concept. It was
when they did the clip show with the

617
00:39:06.320 --> 00:39:09.440
love stories, you remember, oh
yeah yeah, and they said all just

618
00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:13.960
sort of sitting in around the kitchen
table telling these really contrived remember when this

619
00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:17.239
happened? Yeah, I mean,
what would you rather this or a clip

620
00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:21.639
show. At least I didn't do
clip shows anymore. Nah, there's one

621
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:23.880
hundred percent. It's funny, like
because on the Simpsons Index, despite what

622
00:39:24.000 --> 00:39:27.440
we were saying, I was saying
before, we do rank the episodes and

623
00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:30.480
sort of try build a guide of
like watching the Simpsons and you know,

624
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:34.599
general sort of recommendations and all that
sort of thing. But yeah, averaging

625
00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:37.360
out all of our scores, season
six would have been our top ranked season

626
00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:42.159
if it wasn't for that episode.
That episode we hated so much that it

627
00:39:42.199 --> 00:39:45.519
put it down into third place under
five and seven really seven and five.

628
00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:49.280
Reviewing it in twenty twenty three,
though, you've got to give it some

629
00:39:49.400 --> 00:39:52.639
slap because this is back in the
day when clip shows were a thing.

630
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:55.559
Did i't do clip shows anymore?
But like, even like Friends was the

631
00:39:55.559 --> 00:39:59.599
biggest show on television that was still
doing clip shows, you know, y

632
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:02.400
right. Yeah. I revisited Malcolm
in the Middle not too long ago as

633
00:40:02.440 --> 00:40:07.320
well, and still surprised because,
yeah, that's like a relatively late sitcom,

634
00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:08.119
you know, no camped laughter and
all that, and it was like,

635
00:40:08.320 --> 00:40:10.599
yeah, that still had four like
clip shows in it. That's odd.

636
00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:14.599
Yeah, Yeah, clip shows are
not a thing. Anymore. But

637
00:40:14.679 --> 00:40:17.920
I guess I can see why you
would find it annoying now in twenty twenty

638
00:40:17.960 --> 00:40:22.440
three, But in nineteen ninety four
or five, whenever that episode air lot

639
00:40:22.480 --> 00:40:25.559
season six, it probably wouldn't have
been seen as annoying as what we would

640
00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:29.920
see it as now. Yeah,
not as bad, And certainly with the

641
00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:32.440
way we consume television and you know, and repeats and sort of things like

642
00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:36.440
that, I guess our main problem
with that one was that it was just

643
00:40:36.559 --> 00:40:39.800
telling truncated versions of these episodes and
like cutting out some of the best material

644
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:45.840
out of them, whereas like even
something like gump Rost like it did a

645
00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:50.679
bit more with the setup and connective
tissue like hated gump Roast hated it.

646
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:53.199
Yeah, oh no not. I'm
only defending that part of it. I'm

647
00:40:53.239 --> 00:40:57.079
not defending the actual episode. And
it's like there is a good reason why

648
00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:01.039
that is. The last clip show
was written by Dan Castlen, Is that

649
00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:05.960
right, that one? Yeah?
Yeah, him and Deabla Custa. Yeah.

650
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:08.079
They put their names on a few
episodes, yeah, especially more as

651
00:41:08.119 --> 00:41:12.320
the series went on. But then
we get the obviously the first story here.

652
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:15.880
So the first segment was officially called
the count of Monty Fatso. But

653
00:41:16.039 --> 00:41:20.159
basically it's just, you know,
the revenge. So Moe is the Sillia

654
00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:23.760
to like me, Beth Mimosa's trying
to steal the wife of Homer in this

655
00:41:23.840 --> 00:41:28.559
story, and he does. I
did like the twist at the end though,

656
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:31.840
essentially where they're like, pamo,
we need It was like it's been

657
00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:36.159
five years and it's like, yeah, but I'm still I was I was

658
00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:38.000
your dad. You've been going for
five years. We forgotten to be you,

659
00:41:38.159 --> 00:41:43.119
fat boy. Yeah no, And
I like the joke. It's just

660
00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:46.159
like, well, you know,
then I had to get what was it.

661
00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:49.639
Yeah, I had to hire a
lot of contractors to build this thing,

662
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:52.159
and then I had to get revenge
on them at certain points. And

663
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:55.880
yeah, I did enjoy that twist
as well, and putting the like because

664
00:41:55.880 --> 00:42:00.159
I feel like the way these sort
of things go, especially when Simpson's through

665
00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:02.960
these tales where Moe is houning in
on Marge, it's always like, yeah,

666
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:07.840
he's just disregarded at the first available
opportunity that he was actually their loving

667
00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:12.960
father, because yeah, their actual
father was gone for five years. I

668
00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:16.320
did find the mode triplet Maggie's a
bit unsettling but whatever, the problem with

669
00:42:16.440 --> 00:42:21.880
these trilogy episodes too, is that
when they have an episode involving like margin

670
00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:23.920
Homer, it usually is Mo the
one that's used as the person who's trying

671
00:42:23.960 --> 00:42:28.079
to get in between them, because
they even did it in the Wetter Stories

672
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:31.519
Ever told as well, where it
was Moe trying to get like Homer drunk

673
00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:35.760
on the ship, remember that one? Yeah? Yeah, and then you

674
00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:38.320
got the Megbeth parody? Was that
Mo? And that was Mo? And

675
00:42:38.360 --> 00:42:42.320
that wasn't then Butch trying to get
revenge on Mo. Wasn't he? Oh

676
00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:45.400
yeah, there we go another revenge
story, but was probably told in the

677
00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:47.119
History episode or something. I don't
know. Yeah, so like that,

678
00:42:47.880 --> 00:42:51.280
I don't know, just it says
seems like they keep going back to Mow

679
00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:57.559
all the time. Probably mean we
have I mean we have Peggy fur maybe

680
00:42:58.079 --> 00:43:12.599
maybe and the luckiest wife in the
entire sixteenth this moll let us kiss with

681
00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:21.679
the tongues. Let us kiss with
the tongues as opposed to French guess yeah.

682
00:43:21.760 --> 00:43:23.920
And then in that same the Butt
and Lisa are like, may we

683
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:27.800
have this? And then Lisa's like, oh, may we have this candy?

684
00:43:27.880 --> 00:43:30.400
And then Homer's like may we,
may we may we. That gets

685
00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:34.039
me, like, because yeah,
may we as a French phrase for like

686
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:37.000
yes or obviously or something like that. Yeah, so it's a few of

687
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:42.159
these like clever little French language jokes, Like I like this approach rather than

688
00:43:42.559 --> 00:43:46.079
sometimes where they go try to fully
like everyone in the cast do whatever accent

689
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:51.599
of the country that they're parenting,
Like I forget. We were talking about

690
00:43:51.599 --> 00:43:53.239
it on the Treehouse of So you
liked the Jack the Ripper one where I

691
00:43:53.280 --> 00:43:55.880
wasn't a huge fan because I thought
them taking the voice off just got annoying

692
00:43:55.920 --> 00:43:59.440
by the Yanks. I'm like,
this isn't jokes, this is just them

693
00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:01.440
doing funny accents. Yeah. I
was just about to bring that up as

694
00:44:01.480 --> 00:44:05.840
an example of yeah, an episode
I like despite the fact that, yeah,

695
00:44:05.960 --> 00:44:10.000
Marge's English accent is hideous in yeah, and yeah, they do it

696
00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:15.039
a lot lately, Like there was
a recent Treehouse of Horror where they were

697
00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:20.119
like doing the Mayan calendar thing and
they're all sort of affecting like a Spanish

698
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:23.239
accent. Was that that was truly
That was chreuse of horror. That one

699
00:44:23.360 --> 00:44:27.079
that was yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it was like the twenty

700
00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:30.400
fourth or twenty third or something like
that. They all start to blur in

701
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:34.079
the twenties. Yeah, there's another
joke coming up in this segment here,

702
00:44:34.119 --> 00:44:36.639
which I literally wrote my notes,
How has this not already been done in

703
00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:39.719
the Simpsons? You've been sentenced to
life jokes and you I'm already alive.

704
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:44.639
I was like, Yeah, that's
awesome. That's a really funny joken.

705
00:44:44.840 --> 00:44:46.679
That's a really good term of phrase. Yeah, yeah, like, how

706
00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:51.360
has this not been said before?
Like that just seems like golden near Homer

707
00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:54.159
gag right, No, that yeah, excellent, playing with the dialogue here,

708
00:44:54.239 --> 00:44:59.239
Yeah, I like that. Listen
to this latter he wrote, Dear

709
00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:02.679
England, how I love your moods
and heats for you. I do whatever

710
00:45:02.800 --> 00:45:08.840
it takes, especially treason. I
didn't write that even if I did love

711
00:45:08.920 --> 00:45:14.039
England, I'd play it cool,
wait for it to come to me.

712
00:45:14.559 --> 00:45:19.400
I sentence you to life, you
moron. I'm already alive in prison,

713
00:45:24.280 --> 00:45:35.360
pen pen, I'm gonna start now. I didn't mind Mose setting him up

714
00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:37.000
as well. This is a letter
that I found that Homer had sent,

715
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:40.480
deary England, I love you so
much and all like that worked for me.

716
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:45.800
But yeah, then Wigham taking him
away was one of these obnoxiously drawn

717
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:50.840
out jokes for me, where Wiggham's
doing the police siring himself going near there,

718
00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:52.760
and then it goes on and on, and then it zooms in on

719
00:45:52.800 --> 00:45:55.239
Wigham and he's still doing it,
and then he just goes, oh,

720
00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:59.239
I'm gonna stop now, like I
think I would have. I wouldn't have

721
00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:01.920
hated it if it was just that
one shot of him driving off into the

722
00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:05.239
distance, but that they did the
zoom in and it still went on and

723
00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:09.400
then he goes awkward. You know, it just really didn't land. Quite

724
00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:14.400
often in recent episodes, we've found
they are explaining their jokes more and more

725
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:17.000
often hmmmmm. And it's like,
you don't need to explain it. If

726
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:19.960
you don't get it, then just
move. It doesn't matter. You know,

727
00:46:20.039 --> 00:46:22.679
the people will be they'll get it
eventually. You know. That's it.

728
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:27.639
They didn't pause and stop and explain
the diddler and like why they're so

729
00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:30.280
clever for making those connections. They
just said it and it was the twiddling

730
00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:36.199
of the fingers as well, like
they did. I really hate thinking of

731
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:39.639
flats in that light. But then
we get home getting tortured in prison,

732
00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:44.079
and I was a big fan of
him getting please losing my arm so I

733
00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:49.559
can shake my wist and yeah,
put this in the Homer Shaking Fist playlist.

734
00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:52.480
Yeah, Homer has a friend in
the mouse, which he eats as

735
00:46:52.519 --> 00:46:54.679
you probably would would you if you
were locked in prison and you hadn't been

736
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:59.079
fed, probably like a shitty prison
like this, would you resort to eating

737
00:46:59.119 --> 00:47:00.159
a mouse or something like that?
Could you do it? I don't think

738
00:47:00.159 --> 00:47:04.320
I could even kill a mouse,
let alone eat it. Yeah, well,

739
00:47:04.400 --> 00:47:07.719
I mean lock me in the highest
tower of a prison and we'll see

740
00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:10.440
what I do. But yeah,
it is a hard thought to make.

741
00:47:10.559 --> 00:47:15.679
Yeah, like the yeah, especially
raw, I feel like that's even worse.

742
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:19.400
Like if there's a way that I
can make up like a little prison

743
00:47:19.519 --> 00:47:24.960
grill, maybe have a little uh
rat shishkebubs or something like George. Yeah,

744
00:47:27.679 --> 00:47:30.360
yeah, try sneaking one of those
into a cake into a prison.

745
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:32.559
Yeah, he's got a semment here
and it's mister Burns. I was getting

746
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:37.239
like a Latin ViBe's here. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it is very

747
00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:39.239
much that. Like, Yeah,
when Jafar like dresses up sort of thing,

748
00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:43.559
yeah, yeah, and leads him
to the cave of wonders, but

749
00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:46.480
he's been well, we actually get
a bit of like a rape gang here,

750
00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:50.320
which I was a little uncomfortable with. So basically he's like, I'm

751
00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:52.920
doing this because you know, I'm
too old now. I want to go

752
00:47:53.000 --> 00:47:54.960
to I've spent thirty years doing it. I wanted to go to good use.

753
00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:58.719
And I violated you repeatedly while she
slept. And I was like,

754
00:47:59.440 --> 00:48:01.039
I'm not sure rip gags a good
thing. I'm like, I'm all for

755
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:04.639
the diddler, but like, this
is just blatantly saying I raped you while

756
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:07.440
she slept, and I was like, oh shit, yeah, with the

757
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:09.920
deadly you can say there's an element
of cleverness about oh, like how they

758
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:14.880
put the joke together, but this
is just like, like, all you're

759
00:48:14.880 --> 00:48:16.880
relying on is the delivery of Burns
and it doesn't say but it's just it's

760
00:48:16.960 --> 00:48:21.960
uncomfortable. Nah, it's not cool
at all. Yeah, And I mean,

761
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:24.400
on the lesser end of the scale, I also didn't like the mister

762
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:29.079
Burns going oh, you wouldn't have
noticed me because you're so self centered.

763
00:48:29.079 --> 00:48:31.039
And then Homer's looking in the yellow
water is like, oh, hello,

764
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:36.880
there, looking good, and it's
like this character hasn't really sort of displayed

765
00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:38.920
self centered tendencies. If anything,
he was just a good family man and

766
00:48:39.000 --> 00:48:43.079
whatever. This is just this comes
out of nowhere, and it's not Homer

767
00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:46.559
Simpson characteristic either. Like, yeah, it just didn't work for me.

768
00:48:47.480 --> 00:48:51.679
I was more disappointed of the fact
that they ruined the yellow water gag because

769
00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:53.559
obviously that's meant to be a piss, a puddle of piss on the floor.

770
00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:57.480
But then Homer comes up through that
in the floor and I'm like,

771
00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:00.239
oh, so that's water from the
ocean. Why is it yellow? Then

772
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:02.400
you've ruined the gag. Oh,
yeah, you're right. And how is

773
00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:07.480
that water rising up that? Anyway? How's he getting there? It does

774
00:49:07.599 --> 00:49:12.840
make sense, how's the water going
up? Yeah? But he uses the

775
00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:16.519
map to retrieve the buried treasure,
eventually finds it, and five years later

776
00:49:16.559 --> 00:49:22.199
he's loaded, he's got he's now
the he's the count of the town.

777
00:49:22.519 --> 00:49:24.400
We then cut to Mo and he's
the new dad of the family, and

778
00:49:24.480 --> 00:49:28.440
I guess we're supposed to just assume
that Mo just became a good dad.

779
00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:32.400
Yeah. Well, I like how
they don't like explain it before the twist

780
00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:37.000
at the end, because yeah,
you could go from everything that we saw

781
00:49:37.119 --> 00:49:39.679
before, like oh, he's just
a creep ward that when Homer gets his

782
00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:43.880
revenge, he will have what's coming
to him. But then that it's like

783
00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:45.519
then done as a pullback and revealed. No, he was like good to

784
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:49.599
these people, and like he gave
these kids a father when they didn't have

785
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:52.199
one. Yeah, no, like
and I like it when he's like he

786
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:55.599
still hasn't revealed that he's Homer,
and he's just this counter of Monte Cristo

787
00:49:55.679 --> 00:50:00.320
and he's putting on this party that
has invited them to and like get one

788
00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:02.320
of these crowd murmured jokes where it's
like you know, rubs and cars,

789
00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:06.800
and then you just hear one person
cut through going I've heard rumors he's mysterious,

790
00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:10.599
Like that's just a good line to
me. But eventually reveals his identity

791
00:50:10.760 --> 00:50:13.880
and they get it when he takes
off the mole. Now have you seen

792
00:50:13.920 --> 00:50:16.280
the Muppets Most Wanted? Oh yeah, yeah, I've only seen that one

793
00:50:16.320 --> 00:50:20.599
once. I'm generally a big Muppet
fan, but no, not so much.

794
00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:22.840
This is I mean I remember going
to the movies to watch it,

795
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:25.880
but then my kids became huge Muppet
fans. Thank God, because I love

796
00:50:25.920 --> 00:50:30.239
the Muppets as well. And now
that's a podcast like to start one day

797
00:50:30.239 --> 00:50:31.519
that the Muppet podcast. I've already
got it going talking Muppets, got a

798
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:35.119
logo and everything. I just wait
for someone to do it with. Don't

799
00:50:35.239 --> 00:50:39.599
tempt me, I've got oh.
I have deep history with those guys.

800
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:44.199
That's the one. I feel like
there's no good Muppets podcast out there.

801
00:50:44.280 --> 00:50:47.079
That's the money, mate, Like
we could do it. Yeah, we'll

802
00:50:47.119 --> 00:50:52.280
talk off pod. This could be
a thing. But now I just want

803
00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:57.880
to talk about the Muppets. But
basically, that whole story is that Constantine

804
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:01.039
is the evil Kermit and he's hut
the mole on his face and he slaps

805
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:05.159
one on Chemis's face and everyone thinks
that he is Constantine. Yeah. I

806
00:51:05.239 --> 00:51:07.840
was just getting vibes up. It's
most wanted in this. Yeah. But

807
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:12.280
then we get Homer. Yeah,
so your real his identity. He murders

808
00:51:12.559 --> 00:51:15.519
mo by put him in the crape
and burning him alive and cooking him,

809
00:51:15.920 --> 00:51:17.440
and the family just can't believe it. They're all just devastating that you know,

810
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:21.840
you've you've killed my husband and Poppa
Moan. Who's gonna take care of

811
00:51:21.840 --> 00:51:24.000
the Triplets. Yeah, and yeah, it's kind of a depressing ending you

812
00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:28.920
really think about it. Yeah,
Like, like I said, I do

813
00:51:29.159 --> 00:51:32.119
like that twist and the subversion on
the end, but like, I'm also

814
00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:36.559
a big fan of Roupe Goldberg machines
and this just didn't do it for me.

815
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:39.199
Man, the whole the what do
you call it? The Harmless Chair

816
00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:44.519
of Relaxation, and then it starts
out with like a fish squirting him and

817
00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:47.760
then a hanky slapping him, and
then a cannon that shoots a spring loaded

818
00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:51.760
boot to his crotch, and then
yeah, we get the crapes and then

819
00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:53.880
out comes the branding him. I
was like, oh no, Suzette,

820
00:51:54.599 --> 00:51:59.400
So like, yeah, man,
I wanted so much more for a Roupe

821
00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:01.480
Goldberg masie and this just didn't.
It didn't do it for me. And

822
00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:05.440
the ending where it gets back to
present day and Homas wasn't listening to Marge

823
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:07.039
at all, I was like,
that's right, this guy's a dick when

824
00:52:07.159 --> 00:52:10.360
when they needing to be Yeah,
yeah, that's right, and he's listening

825
00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:15.719
to Jamaican beats and doing a probably
problematic accent right here. Yeah, because

826
00:52:15.719 --> 00:52:21.719
we just reviewed the Wife Aquatic and
for the most part home, it's a

827
00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:23.559
really good husband, father, and
that like he's taken the family to this

828
00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:29.800
barnacle bay because he was marched.
If we live this childhood memory and he's

829
00:52:29.880 --> 00:52:32.199
just doing all this nice shit,
and I'm just like, why did he

830
00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:37.480
just chop and change with this guy? Yeah, it's clear when when he's

831
00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:42.159
a good person, the episodes are
better. What do you persists with this

832
00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:46.280
version? Yeah, and when it's
he's so singlely focused over something just as

833
00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:51.000
simple as being cut off like that
just to me lends into the hole.

834
00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:53.599
Like this episode's premise just feels so
contrived. It's just like, oh,

835
00:52:53.679 --> 00:52:57.039
whatever, someone cuts him off and
that's why he's angry and they're on a

836
00:52:57.079 --> 00:53:01.400
car trip like and returning to this
is the thing that he's so hell bent

837
00:53:01.519 --> 00:53:06.639
on revenge for it. Just yeah, I don't think it's justified, even

838
00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:09.840
in our homer like over exaggerating,
overly emotional way, like, yeah,

839
00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:14.159
this is veering too close to the
whole, like jerk ass problem for me?

840
00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:20.360
Have you ever been cut off?
Though? So many times I live

841
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:23.360
in Sydney, man, Like,
I imagine traffic's bad in Melbourne and Geelong

842
00:53:23.400 --> 00:53:27.320
too, But holy crap, Oh, shit, man, there's I've got

843
00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:29.960
a story that I'm not gonna bother
boring you guys with. But Nick and

844
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:35.920
I had a night in Melbourne on
Friday and traffic at like five thirty short,

845
00:53:36.280 --> 00:53:38.840
long story short. We're staying at
this hotel in the Docklands, Melbourne,

846
00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:44.480
right, very very busy part of
Melbourne, and the key to so

847
00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:45.880
it's on a busy ride, a
really really busy road where in the middle

848
00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:49.280
you can't do a U turn.
It's basically you got one road. If

849
00:53:49.320 --> 00:53:51.000
we get to the other side,
you get to go all the way around

850
00:53:51.000 --> 00:53:52.400
the block and come back up the
other way again. It's like like a

851
00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:55.400
forty minute drive in like pete traffic, just around this block. But this

852
00:53:55.519 --> 00:54:00.400
guy thought the apartment was staying at
and all his wisdom to lead the key

853
00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:07.360
for the apartment at a place across
the street and said to park your car

854
00:54:07.559 --> 00:54:09.920
there, when really we could have
parked our car at the apartment first and

855
00:54:10.039 --> 00:54:15.480
walked across the road. So we
part our car at this easy mart and

856
00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:17.239
then we realized we have to add
another forty five minutes to add trip to

857
00:54:17.239 --> 00:54:22.079
get to the other side of the
road because of the shitty directions that there's

858
00:54:22.119 --> 00:54:28.559
a nightmare and you can just see
your final destination and like I could fart

859
00:54:28.599 --> 00:54:30.760
and the people could smell it.
You know, that's how closely you were.

860
00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:35.039
Jesus christ. Ah, that's brutal. I was like home with the

861
00:54:35.119 --> 00:54:42.320
stick almost just put the keys on
the end of this stick. Please,

862
00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:45.800
sir. I'm gonna get my revenge
and if I get caught, I'm pinning

863
00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:49.679
it on the baby, like the
time I shot mister Burns. So what

864
00:54:49.800 --> 00:54:53.639
were your thoughts on here, because
they are essentially retconning one of the major

865
00:54:53.639 --> 00:54:57.079
plot lines of The Simpsons, where
he says, if I get caught doing

866
00:54:57.119 --> 00:54:59.280
this, I'm gonna put it on
the baby like I did when I shot

867
00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:05.519
Burns. Yeah, it's a a
blink and you miss it kind of gag

868
00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:07.880
kind of thing, Like it just
says a move on. But it's like

869
00:55:07.400 --> 00:55:12.239
it's essentially reconning the whole story,
right, Yeah, that's the thing,

870
00:55:12.320 --> 00:55:15.440
and coming back to the continuity only
matters when it does story. I guess.

871
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:19.639
I guess because of the throwaway line
nature of it. To me,

872
00:55:19.760 --> 00:55:22.599
it didn't like rub me too much
the wrong way. But I mean,

873
00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:27.360
also it just sort of comes back
to the whole, like the Simpsons criticizing

874
00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:30.239
their own decision to make Maggie the
killer, and it's like, no,

875
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:35.679
own it, Like it's that was
your choice. Then don't like try and

876
00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:38.920
rectroactively like yeah, change it or
anything like that, or say it doesn't

877
00:55:38.960 --> 00:55:43.559
make sense. No, that was
the choice you made then, Like that's

878
00:55:43.599 --> 00:55:45.679
the thing that people write in this
episode. Weren't part of the weren't part

879
00:55:45.719 --> 00:55:50.480
of that team? Yeah, true, true, Yeah, So that would

880
00:55:50.480 --> 00:55:52.239
be my mentality if I was working
with the Simpsons in like season eighteen,

881
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:57.480
I would never try and repcon something
from like season eight or seven or whatever

882
00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:00.119
without the permission from the people who
actually made a decision. It's like,

883
00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:04.320
don't fuck with the past. That
was their decision, don't change it.

884
00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:07.800
Yeah, that's it. And like, I guess I just hate the self

885
00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:13.280
criticismness of it, Like I just
feel like it's it's not like a mistake

886
00:56:13.360 --> 00:56:15.840
you had to own. This was
a very good episode that you like,

887
00:56:16.719 --> 00:56:22.679
you don't need to pretend that was
a bad decision. Like, I mean,

888
00:56:22.760 --> 00:56:25.679
I remember being very disappointed people have
People still think it's a pretty stupid

889
00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:31.400
decision. Yeah, stupid. It's
a stupid conclusion. But you know,

890
00:56:31.480 --> 00:56:34.320
like you said, they made a
decision, you got to stick with it.

891
00:56:34.880 --> 00:56:37.320
Yeah, but that's the problem with
it. You couldn't have pinned it

892
00:56:37.400 --> 00:56:42.400
on any other character without serious legal
repercussions for it. Yeah, it's literally

893
00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:46.360
the besides, maybe Samda's little helper, like was the smartest decision. Yeah.

894
00:56:47.119 --> 00:56:50.480
Then Lisa tells the story Revenge of
the Geeks, and as I said,

895
00:56:50.480 --> 00:56:52.119
I think I enjoyed this one of
the most. So the boys are

896
00:56:52.159 --> 00:56:55.360
playing a game of what's it called
whether that there you're pushing the discs on

897
00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:59.440
the ice. Oh yeah, it's
a bit like curling, isn't it curly?

898
00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:01.079
That's the one, Yeah, with
the Geeks and Skinner as well.

899
00:57:01.559 --> 00:57:06.440
And Martin then reveals in the science
lab he's now built a get Bacon eight

900
00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:09.360
and all it requires to operate it
is a small amount of coordination. Reminds

901
00:57:09.400 --> 00:57:12.800
me of kind of like the Infinity
glove thing. Is it the Infinity glove?

902
00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:16.440
What's what's Yeah, the infinity got
like way before the Simpson's predicted it,

903
00:57:17.760 --> 00:57:22.880
even though it existed many years before
in the comics. So the infinity

904
00:57:22.960 --> 00:57:25.079
gaulet right by back when I sed
to work a pop Coach. When that

905
00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:30.480
film came out, that was such
a hot sell, like every kid wanted

906
00:57:30.519 --> 00:57:34.440
to have a Gotland on their hands
at Christmas time. But hasn't Marvel fallen

907
00:57:34.559 --> 00:57:37.719
since? Yeah no, I was
one of the biggest fans of the MCU

908
00:57:37.920 --> 00:57:43.199
movies, but Phase four man want
to turn around, Like I don't care

909
00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:45.199
to watch any of the shows.
Pretty much every movie that I've watched,

910
00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:52.000
maybe with the exceptions of Guardians three, I have disliked. I haven't seen

911
00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:53.119
it. Yes, I don't see
what happens, but I'm going to watch

912
00:57:53.159 --> 00:57:57.239
it just because I have to watch
it to sort of complete the trilogy.

913
00:57:57.840 --> 00:58:01.239
Yeah. No, it's a perfect
and that story I'd say with the Marvel

914
00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:07.039
films, right the Phase four is
it a case of no matter how good

915
00:58:07.079 --> 00:58:09.119
the writing is, if people don't
give a shit about the characters, then

916
00:58:09.159 --> 00:58:13.599
it's not gonna work. Like,
no one gives a shit about the characters

917
00:58:13.639 --> 00:58:16.199
in Phase four. I'm sorry,
they just don't. Yeah. I think

918
00:58:16.239 --> 00:58:21.679
it's also like overexposure as well,
and like no better emphasize than with the

919
00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:24.199
TV shows as well, because Disney
Plus has ruined it with the shows.

920
00:58:24.679 --> 00:58:28.199
Yeah, I mean same with Star
Wars as well. Is that. Yeah,

921
00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:30.800
I used to get very excited for
the new Star Wars movie, but

922
00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:32.920
now that it's a Star Wars series, like I feel like I'm hearing about

923
00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:36.760
the new one coming out, and
the fuck I still haven't watched the other

924
00:58:36.880 --> 00:58:39.480
three, you know, and it's
sort of more of a chore rather than

925
00:58:39.679 --> 00:58:43.519
like a big movie that you know, we gather the friends and go to.

926
00:58:43.719 --> 00:58:46.239
Like, yeah, MCU movies were
like an event and like they weren't

927
00:58:46.239 --> 00:58:49.800
always going to be the greatest movies. I think it's worse though. Were

928
00:58:49.880 --> 00:58:53.440
like a reliable seven out of ten
sort of experience, but like because of

929
00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:57.280
the shows as well, because you're
watching out home, it's like more isolated,

930
00:58:57.360 --> 00:59:01.000
so it's not as like a fun
atmosphere as it was to get your

931
00:59:01.039 --> 00:59:04.880
friends to go to the cinema to
see them. And and I mean,

932
00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:07.039
yeah, I can't blame everything on
the pandemic, because yeah, the movies

933
00:59:07.079 --> 00:59:12.679
themselves as well have just really dropped
in quality. And the whole multiverse thing,

934
00:59:12.920 --> 00:59:17.360
you know, it's just already tired. And I think the promise of

935
00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:22.960
multiverse superhero movies hasn't been lived up
to, Like it's it's just made for

936
00:59:22.039 --> 00:59:27.280
either lazy or confusing storytelling in my
opinion, but did make having good pandava

937
00:59:27.320 --> 00:59:30.199
special there. Yeah, yeah,
I ended up checking that out. That

938
00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:32.199
wasn't too bad. Actually put a
chicken it and make it gay. It

939
00:59:32.320 --> 00:59:37.159
was fucking hilarious. Yeah, that
was the refrain of the thing, that's

940
00:59:37.199 --> 00:59:39.480
for sure. I did love the
way though that they made Kathleen Kennedy the

941
00:59:39.519 --> 00:59:43.679
baby face by the end, made
you realize we're all to blame for this.

942
00:59:43.800 --> 00:59:45.599
It's not just it's not just like
Disney's fault. You guys fucking bitch

943
00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:49.360
and moan to the point where they
felt like they had to do a complete

944
00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:52.159
fucking one to eighty and then you
bitch and made it like it's everyone's at

945
00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:53.039
fault here. You know, we
all need to take a step back,

946
00:59:53.280 --> 00:59:57.280
sit down, and that's the potblem. I said to Nikola, this is

947
00:59:57.360 --> 01:00:00.760
exactly what needs to happen, is
that Kathleen Kennedy in the faces of Disney

948
01:00:00.800 --> 01:00:04.320
and to sit down and just fucking
talk it out with the fans, not

949
01:00:04.480 --> 01:00:07.639
just hiding their offices and make their
decisions. Come out and be like,

950
01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:10.159
look, this is why we're doing. Tell us why you don't like it.

951
01:00:10.280 --> 01:00:14.519
Have an open forum I feel like
they had an open forum. It

952
01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:16.760
make things all better. Yeah,
But I mean there is just a glot

953
01:00:16.840 --> 01:00:21.159
of entertainment right now, when like
putting out these shows that are like a

954
01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:22.960
five out of ten is just it's
not doing it anymore. Yeah, they

955
01:00:23.039 --> 01:00:28.159
know they need to seriously either yeah
Shelvy to start again, or it's something

956
01:00:28.360 --> 01:00:31.159
like just at least scale it back. Yeah. Well, guys, he's

957
01:00:31.239 --> 01:00:35.679
right when he says it's like Star
Wars has become homework now and it's never

958
01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:38.039
been more more evident. Then I
started watching the Boba Fett show and then

959
01:00:38.039 --> 01:00:40.599
I got bored of it and stopped
watching, right And then I started watching

960
01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:45.760
Mando season three, and I was
like, wait, why is Gogo's with

961
01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:47.239
mandoig? When the fuck did this
happen? What? And it's like,

962
01:00:47.440 --> 01:00:50.519
oh, it happened in Book of
Boba Fett. And I'm like, hang

963
01:00:50.599 --> 01:00:53.480
on, that's not the fucking Mandalorian. What's going on? So you tell

964
01:00:53.519 --> 01:00:57.519
me how to watch that show now
to understand the Mando Come on? No.

965
01:00:58.480 --> 01:01:00.719
Yeah, And I feel like the
MCU as well had this problem when

966
01:01:00.800 --> 01:01:04.719
Agents of Shield was a thing,
and like a couple of plot points in

967
01:01:04.760 --> 01:01:07.320
the movies relied on that, and
it's like, no one's watching fucking Agents

968
01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:15.400
of Shield. Nobody. That's the
aw Ram page of Marvel Shows. Good

969
01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:22.320
day to all our aw fans.
But as I was saying, I really

970
01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:25.840
liked this. So you all requires
to operate the inffinity Gautlan is a small

971
01:01:25.880 --> 01:01:29.599
amount of coordination. They're all a
bit worried about that. Will has to

972
01:01:29.760 --> 01:01:35.519
juggling at camp, juggling class whatever
was a camp good morning dingases what are

973
01:01:35.559 --> 01:01:39.760
you doing touching each other's butts?
You are so dead, you're alive.

974
01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:45.679
That is such a funny way to
just like because I know that. Yeah,

975
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:50.760
Martin's you know, he's a problem
solving nerd. You know he figured

976
01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:55.320
out the scientifically best line to immediately
get their eye are as quickly as possible.

977
01:01:55.639 --> 01:02:00.079
Yes, because good morning dinguses what
are you doing touching each other's but

978
01:02:02.679 --> 01:02:07.119
And they raced towards him, went
to the library. Little Hitler joke here

979
01:02:07.159 --> 01:02:15.440
before Nazi leader, he was a
Nazi reader and Milhouse then gets revenge my

980
01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:20.519
bags. What were your thoughts on
Kearney's use of my fun bags? Is

981
01:02:20.559 --> 01:02:23.000
that just an Australian thing, the
term fun bags? Yeah, it's one

982
01:02:23.039 --> 01:02:27.199
of those things like when you hear
Americans say fanny and then you have to

983
01:02:27.280 --> 01:02:30.920
reprogram. Oh okay, that's right, that doesn't mean the same thing.

984
01:02:30.440 --> 01:02:34.519
But like fanny, like you know, that's just their word for it,

985
01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:38.199
where like fun bags is just the
term we've made up for breasts because their

986
01:02:38.239 --> 01:02:44.280
bags are fun to some people.
Yup. It's like for him and Kearney

987
01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:46.920
call him his fun bags. I'm
like, are you guys using a term

988
01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:52.760
that incorrectly here? I've never heard
a guy call his man titties, his

989
01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:58.360
man boobs fun bags before. Well, Kenney hasn't does, and he thinks

990
01:02:58.400 --> 01:03:04.239
they're fun and yeah, but he
starts hitting Jimbo with a stop hitting yourself?

991
01:03:04.719 --> 01:03:07.440
I like this where it changes to
why are you hitting yourself? Yeah,

992
01:03:07.920 --> 01:03:13.239
because man, it just seems like
the most obnoxious way to beat someone

993
01:03:13.280 --> 01:03:15.199
up. Why are you hitting yourself? Stop hitting yourself? I'm like,

994
01:03:15.360 --> 01:03:19.519
oh, what a douchebag. Yeah, had a few of those in my

995
01:03:19.599 --> 01:03:22.519
time. I'll tell you what.
Really shout it out to my older brothers.

996
01:03:22.320 --> 01:03:25.360
Lisa, then thanks Millhouse. You
know we can all the nerds can

997
01:03:25.400 --> 01:03:29.639
breeze easy, breeze breathe easy.
Now except the ones of asthma. Of

998
01:03:29.760 --> 01:03:34.039
course, Martin accidentally hits Millhouse with
a shuttle cock or something and he uses

999
01:03:34.400 --> 01:03:37.480
a device on Martin. He starts
beating up all the nerds with his glove

1000
01:03:37.559 --> 01:03:39.880
naws. He's just losing his mind. You're kind of right though, where

1001
01:03:39.880 --> 01:03:45.079
he sort of like takes revenge out
on all the nerds as well. But

1002
01:03:45.239 --> 01:03:47.039
I guess it's just a play on
someone who's been beating up their whole life.

1003
01:03:47.039 --> 01:03:51.639
They just get power hungry and it's
just goes to their head and they

1004
01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:55.000
just lose control of what's right and
what's wrong. Yeah, I think it

1005
01:03:55.119 --> 01:03:59.079
just happens a bit too quickly,
and I mean you can give the episode

1006
01:03:59.119 --> 01:04:01.360
a bit of leeway, and it's, yeah, it's a three segment story

1007
01:04:01.440 --> 01:04:04.559
sort of thing. But yeah,
I just would have liked to see the

1008
01:04:04.639 --> 01:04:09.079
turn a lot more fleshed out because
and I think the other problem that I

1009
01:04:09.199 --> 01:04:12.559
have with the back end of this
segment as well is that they kind of

1010
01:04:12.760 --> 01:04:17.719
burnt all the good glove bullying,
I don't know what you call them,

1011
01:04:18.800 --> 01:04:21.840
all like the purple nourple and wet
willies and things like. They burnt out

1012
01:04:21.840 --> 01:04:25.880
all those jokes on the first half
of the segments. So when we do

1013
01:04:26.039 --> 01:04:29.679
this, he's just like doing the
same things to the nerds, and we

1014
01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:33.119
don't get any evolution in those jokes
except for the new kid who goes,

1015
01:04:33.159 --> 01:04:35.599
I just came here to the first
time today. I haven't done anything to

1016
01:04:35.719 --> 01:04:40.639
you. I didn't mind. Millhouse
is, oh you will. But then

1017
01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:43.719
yeah, it's just the freshman facial. I don't know. There wasn't a

1018
01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:48.800
much development with those anyways. Yeah, and you had an issue with the

1019
01:04:48.840 --> 01:04:54.920
diddler. Yeah. Actually, here's
a weird connection to our other podcast as

1020
01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:59.840
well. I like the idea that
even like brown Skeeper Willie was bullying Millhouse,

1021
01:05:00.239 --> 01:05:02.159
just in such a blame way.
It's like, oh, what's good,

1022
01:05:02.199 --> 01:05:04.599
what are you doing? Gonna have
some more of your weirdo pills?

1023
01:05:04.679 --> 01:05:12.079
And then yeah, Millhouse decapitates him. And then Principal Skinner looks at Groundskeeper

1024
01:05:12.079 --> 01:05:14.480
will He's like, hey, will
you clean all this up? And then

1025
01:05:14.519 --> 01:05:17.960
will he starts drinking his own blood. And ah. Another connection with our

1026
01:05:18.000 --> 01:05:23.719
other podcast where we talked about drinking
blood recently. Yeah, those of you

1027
01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:28.519
wondering in aw this week a wrestler
drank the blood of another person. Actually

1028
01:05:29.039 --> 01:05:30.760
blood was pointing down this guy's face. He got underneath his face, opened

1029
01:05:30.800 --> 01:05:33.679
his mouth and let the blood drip
into his own mouth. I was horrified.

1030
01:05:34.360 --> 01:05:36.559
Well, yeah, he may not
have drunk it. We didn't see

1031
01:05:36.639 --> 01:05:40.320
him swallow the blood, but we
certainly saw him spit it up in the

1032
01:05:40.400 --> 01:05:44.360
air. It dripped into his mouth
and he spat it everywhere. And not

1033
01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:53.280
cool. Not cool at all much
of the year though. For more aw

1034
01:05:53.440 --> 01:05:58.639
phone check out gd But Yeah,
as you're saying, yes, I guess

1035
01:05:58.679 --> 01:06:00.960
the prevenge on the ni Kid,
I'm a fan of like Bart's eye coroner.

1036
01:06:01.000 --> 01:06:03.119
He's like, that's the only line
I get, And Lisa says,

1037
01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:05.639
there's no small parts, only small
actors. I'm like, what was the

1038
01:06:05.719 --> 01:06:09.639
point of that? Excuse me?
Sorry, that was gonna be my other

1039
01:06:09.719 --> 01:06:13.320
trivia thing. Sorry, I just
saw my little note of that asked that

1040
01:06:13.400 --> 01:06:15.559
as a trivia question. What was
Bart's only line in this thing? Yeah?

1041
01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:19.000
I just didn't get the need to
It killed the momentum of the scene.

1042
01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:23.239
I I'm like, ye, what
purpose did that serve? Yeah?

1043
01:06:23.280 --> 01:06:27.199
Absolutely, and especially like at this
time where yeah, Millhouse is like about

1044
01:06:27.239 --> 01:06:30.119
to turn it on Lisa and it's
having this yeah, character conflict moment yeah,

1045
01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:32.840
that you're right. Yeah, it
really did screw with the momentum.

1046
01:06:33.079 --> 01:06:35.480
But then this is where Milhouse,
he says, because List is concerned,

1047
01:06:35.519 --> 01:06:39.559
and Millhouse says, you're gonna love
it when you're my queen, and yeah,

1048
01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:42.239
he's just he's gone, he's gone
mad. And I'm not sure that

1049
01:06:42.320 --> 01:06:45.800
this actually happens in any of the
Revenge of the Nerd movies because there's a

1050
01:06:45.840 --> 01:06:47.039
lot of them, right, it's
like three or four, not this obviously

1051
01:06:47.119 --> 01:06:49.639
to this level, but like,
is there a thing where a guy gets

1052
01:06:49.679 --> 01:06:54.000
some sort of like ability to sort
of beat up other kids and then the

1053
01:06:54.039 --> 01:06:56.000
power gets through his head or something, or is it just it was just

1054
01:06:56.079 --> 01:06:59.679
a play on the name. Yeah, okay, Nah, this has nothing

1055
01:06:59.719 --> 01:07:02.400
to do with the Revenge of the
Nerds besides the fact, like some nerds

1056
01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:09.239
get revenge, and even then it's
their approaches are very different. I see

1057
01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:15.280
why it would be an honor to
be your queen. Gone. I feel

1058
01:07:15.519 --> 01:07:20.119
it would be best if we just
stay friends. Nobody speares my feelings.

1059
01:07:25.639 --> 01:07:35.159
I can't do it. I can't
hurt you, Lisa. You forgot about

1060
01:07:35.199 --> 01:07:44.400
me because I had the momps I
actually would have liked I thought it would

1061
01:07:44.400 --> 01:07:45.719
have been funny. It's a wasted
gag. Obviously, Nelson's one at the

1062
01:07:45.760 --> 01:07:47.719
end that takes it and you forgot
that we had them forgot to have the

1063
01:07:47.760 --> 01:07:50.320
mumps. That's why he wasn't around. But it would have been funny to

1064
01:07:50.519 --> 01:07:56.480
have had used like the full Nelson
on Nelson somehow. Ah. Yes,

1065
01:07:56.679 --> 01:08:00.239
another one for our wrestling fans.
Yeah, yeah, true. Back to

1066
01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:04.920
present day and trying to have the
whole message of when you take revenge revenge

1067
01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:08.119
on somebody, you're just as bad
as the person that you harm, and

1068
01:08:08.679 --> 01:08:11.000
Homas says, no, the lesson
is never put you down your weapon.

1069
01:08:11.039 --> 01:08:13.400
Basically, Homos is not listening to
any of the stories, and it's just

1070
01:08:15.239 --> 01:08:17.399
not a great sort of like what
are these called when they're in between the

1071
01:08:17.439 --> 01:08:20.560
seconds in between? Oh, the
interstitials or something. You know that there's

1072
01:08:20.800 --> 01:08:24.279
a name for it, but basically
they used to use wrap around in the

1073
01:08:24.319 --> 01:08:27.279
earlier ones, but they're they're not
great in this episode, are they?

1074
01:08:27.840 --> 01:08:30.319
Yeah? Well, I forgot to
mention as well. At the start of

1075
01:08:30.399 --> 01:08:31.800
this segment, it was set up
with Lisa being like, you know,

1076
01:08:31.960 --> 01:08:34.880
Dad, I also know a tale
about blah blah blah, and then Homer

1077
01:08:34.920 --> 01:08:38.199
goes, oh, is it the
Count of Monte Cristo. I love that

1078
01:08:38.319 --> 01:08:42.760
story, and you're just U fuck
this guy. Yeah. We then cut

1079
01:08:42.800 --> 01:08:45.479
to the rich text and enjoying his
view and Home's about to get revenge on

1080
01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:48.279
him, and it's time for Bart's
story. And was like, no,

1081
01:08:48.359 --> 01:08:51.720
he's too dumb for a story.
And I was like why why why is

1082
01:08:51.800 --> 01:08:56.720
he being this cruel? It's just
stupid. But and Bart's isn't a time

1083
01:08:56.720 --> 01:08:58.880
that I like to call the past. This is where this story is set.

1084
01:08:58.960 --> 01:09:01.880
It is a called Man begins.
I'm a big I'm a mark for

1085
01:09:02.199 --> 01:09:05.640
Bartman. I just like Bartman.
I just rewatched three minute of comic book

1086
01:09:05.680 --> 01:09:10.640
recently, the first appearance of Bart
Men. What a great episode. Essential

1087
01:09:10.800 --> 01:09:15.039
it is. It is an essential
episode of the Simpson's. Yeah, just

1088
01:09:15.119 --> 01:09:17.199
the introduction to comic book guys as
well. But when they're all just like,

1089
01:09:17.560 --> 01:09:19.840
we don't want this comic book anymore, freaking kids, and I was

1090
01:09:19.920 --> 01:09:28.159
like that that is my life,
freaking kids. Given that catchphrase a workout

1091
01:09:28.239 --> 01:09:30.920
before. Yeah, it's you know, I used to hate the episode my

1092
01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:34.720
sister my sitter, right, Yeah, I've just never really liked that one.

1093
01:09:34.960 --> 01:09:39.439
And then I watch it now where
Bart's like little more, little more,

1094
01:09:39.720 --> 01:09:43.640
too much. My kids do that, but Bart doesn't deliver. And

1095
01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:45.960
that's what I didn't like about it
was Bart was so deliberately mean to Lisa

1096
01:09:46.159 --> 01:09:49.479
in that episode, right, But
I watch it now and I can relate

1097
01:09:49.520 --> 01:09:54.239
to Lisa's pain of what the fuck
mate? Like, like, my kids

1098
01:09:54.279 --> 01:09:57.720
are like I want more, drink
more, more, more appetuice. I'm

1099
01:09:57.720 --> 01:10:00.680
like, maybe more please. I'm
not not that March, And I'm like,

1100
01:10:00.439 --> 01:10:09.279
freaking kids, you just need them
to go to bread already. You

1101
01:10:09.319 --> 01:10:15.680
didn't see which bread. But we're
at New York and we've got a little

1102
01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:17.039
King Kong reference here. He's waving
from the top of the tower. And

1103
01:10:17.720 --> 01:10:21.520
Bart's walking from the opera with his
parents and obviously he's a young Bruce Wayne.

1104
01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:25.119
He's heading down the alley. Why
they walked in the alley, I'm

1105
01:10:25.159 --> 01:10:29.079
not too sure. And Marge then
turns a ring around is actually a bigger

1106
01:10:29.079 --> 01:10:31.359
one is where snakel the serpent as
it turns out to be, shoots Homer

1107
01:10:32.079 --> 01:10:35.640
and then shoots Marge because Mama says
something in the lines of like don't shoot

1108
01:10:35.640 --> 01:10:39.920
her or something. He's like,
oh, you don't frighten me bang or

1109
01:10:40.000 --> 01:10:43.159
my wife wife bang? Yeah?
Or my kid She's like shut up.

1110
01:10:43.199 --> 01:10:46.479
They both die. We get the
iconic necklace fall into the ground shot avenge

1111
01:10:46.560 --> 01:10:49.680
me in a flamboyant in practical fashion. I like that, Yeah, I

1112
01:10:49.880 --> 01:10:54.800
like that like as well, like
we're talking about, when they do they

1113
01:10:54.880 --> 01:10:58.279
sort of more direct parodies of pre
established things. It's like, all right,

1114
01:10:58.319 --> 01:11:00.399
how do we Simpson's eyer and you
know, doing the crime alley scene.

1115
01:11:00.439 --> 01:11:03.640
We've seen this a million times.
It's the pearls dropping, but you've

1116
01:11:03.680 --> 01:11:06.279
got March there, so of course
you do the red pearls. It's yea,

1117
01:11:06.319 --> 01:11:11.239
a fantastic bit of tying in and
then also undermining the source material.

1118
01:11:11.399 --> 01:11:15.479
I love that. Yeah, in
practical flamboyant fashion. Bart can't do anything.

1119
01:11:15.560 --> 01:11:16.399
No, he's had the chance to
sort of take the serpent down and

1120
01:11:16.399 --> 01:11:19.079
he lets him get away. He's
then standing at the graves and it's quite

1121
01:11:19.079 --> 01:11:21.279
a sad moment there, but Grandpa
walks up and he's going to be the

1122
01:11:21.359 --> 01:11:25.319
Alfred here. He's going to get
him into shape the old timey way.

1123
01:11:25.920 --> 01:11:28.159
A little bit of a montage of
him getting into shape, the old Tommy

1124
01:11:28.199 --> 01:11:31.079
way, gets into awesome shape.
Then we have a Pooh and he's got

1125
01:11:31.119 --> 01:11:36.279
his little stall and someone has stolen
the herald slash Harold tribute tribunes. And

1126
01:11:36.439 --> 01:11:45.159
but then it eltricutes him in a
very overseellious homicidal way. Yep and yeah,

1127
01:11:45.680 --> 01:11:47.800
but then tells him you're not gonna
pay the We're not going to buy

1128
01:11:47.840 --> 01:11:51.560
anything. Move along good like the
Springfield. I mean, Gotham underworld is

1129
01:11:51.600 --> 01:11:57.119
trembling while silent citizens sleeps. Snuggers
a bug right because Bartman is knocking down

1130
01:11:57.159 --> 01:12:00.399
bad guys like already use knacks up, young Star. It's bad guys like

1131
01:12:00.479 --> 01:12:12.920
the Talker, the Deddler, mister
bowl Sugar and Spice, and Parson money

1132
01:12:16.680 --> 01:12:21.880
a new snake tattoo. When will
I find the man who murdered my parents?

1133
01:12:23.319 --> 01:12:28.319
When attention bart Man, this is
the serpent saying, fangs a lot

1134
01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:32.199
for getting rid of the competition,
more stuff for me to steal. Oh,

1135
01:12:33.079 --> 01:12:36.439
no villain is safe from me,
Serpent. I'm not a villain.

1136
01:12:36.479 --> 01:12:45.279
I'm a transvestite. Explain that to
your maker. I'll take it from here,

1137
01:12:45.359 --> 01:12:50.159
bart Man. I've seen this image
of poisoned lady so many times I

1138
01:12:50.239 --> 01:12:55.840
could never pinpoint remember where it came
from, and it's in this I like

1139
01:12:55.960 --> 01:12:58.920
to hear him being a villain.
They ruined it with the transvestite dad coming

1140
01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:00.640
up there, I was like,
didn't need to go there. Yeah,

1141
01:13:00.760 --> 01:13:06.880
this is reprehensible at best. Like, look, the best way you can

1142
01:13:06.960 --> 01:13:12.600
take this joke is that it's a
comment on police brutality or whatever. But

1143
01:13:12.760 --> 01:13:16.680
you don't want that from your Simpsons
and that yeah, Lenny poison Lenny goes,

1144
01:13:16.720 --> 01:13:20.039
I'm not a villain, I'm a
transvestite. Then but with that information

1145
01:13:20.600 --> 01:13:25.800
electrocutes him and then Wiggan goes,
I've got it from here and shoots poison

1146
01:13:25.880 --> 01:13:30.680
Lenny four times. It's just disgusting, and especially when you find out in

1147
01:13:30.760 --> 01:13:35.000
the disproportionate way that transgender people are
murdered. It's just there's no reconciling this

1148
01:13:35.680 --> 01:13:41.199
supposed joke. It's just awful.
Like this is enough to tank this episode

1149
01:13:41.279 --> 01:13:44.920
down, like many rating markings just
because of this joke in my opinion.

1150
01:13:45.159 --> 01:13:48.560
Well, there's a lot of gay
panic and homophobic gags. Yeah, in

1151
01:13:48.800 --> 01:13:54.439
recent seasons, more more and more
evident than ever before, which is a

1152
01:13:54.479 --> 01:13:57.239
shame because you know you're talking abot
to show the head homophobia ten years prior,

1153
01:13:57.760 --> 01:14:01.239
and yeah, and they're doing jokes
like this now and it's easy to

1154
01:14:01.279 --> 01:14:03.760
sort of just do the cop out
of well, it's just a sign at

1155
01:14:03.800 --> 01:14:06.600
the times, it's like I get
that, and you know, we're reviewing

1156
01:14:06.640 --> 01:14:10.680
it through twenty twenty three eyes.
Would we have been as annoyed with this

1157
01:14:10.800 --> 01:14:13.840
joke in twenty twenty three? Probably
not, I'd sorry. In two thousand

1158
01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:15.640
and seven, probably not right.
More and more people were getting away with

1159
01:14:15.720 --> 01:14:20.039
making this kind of joke, and
it wasn't widely acknowledged that this isn't the

1160
01:14:20.119 --> 01:14:23.560
right way to go about things.
We kind of all we all knew it

1161
01:14:23.640 --> 01:14:26.600
wasn't right, but it was just
the jokes were made. You know,

1162
01:14:26.800 --> 01:14:30.640
it's hard to sort of it's hard
to explain to someone who's a young person

1163
01:14:30.720 --> 01:14:33.800
now why we ever thought it was
acceptable in any way. So, reviewing

1164
01:14:33.800 --> 01:14:36.239
this with tween twenty three eyes,
I look at it and go, it's

1165
01:14:36.239 --> 01:14:41.000
just terrible. I just don't think
it was just necessary at all, Like

1166
01:14:41.079 --> 01:14:43.640
it just it just didn't need to
be there. I'm not sure how they

1167
01:14:43.720 --> 01:14:46.399
thought it was funny to sort of
have I'm just a transvest diet. You

1168
01:14:46.439 --> 01:14:48.560
know, I'm not a super villain
and we're going to kill you anyway.

1169
01:14:49.920 --> 01:14:53.800
They might not have meant it being
that they're killing it because it's a transvestor,

1170
01:14:53.920 --> 01:14:56.479
but it just comes across that way
with the way it's handled. So

1171
01:14:56.560 --> 01:14:59.319
maybe it was just poor direction.
I'm not too sure, but it comes

1172
01:14:59.359 --> 01:15:01.960
across like only because he's a transvestite, which probably isn't a joke that needed

1173
01:15:02.039 --> 01:15:05.600
to be in the episode. No, not at all. And we're trying

1174
01:15:05.640 --> 01:15:12.520
to portray Bartman as this righteous character
and aside from everything else, he's killing

1175
01:15:12.560 --> 01:15:15.079
an innocent person. And like they
take a bit of leeway with the whole

1176
01:15:15.119 --> 01:15:18.199
Batman parody because Batman's whole thing is
like he's not meant to kill. And

1177
01:15:18.840 --> 01:15:23.439
like, I feel like this episode
almost got close to like making a comment

1178
01:15:23.600 --> 01:15:28.600
is like he does kind of like
leave his the criminals he beats up in

1179
01:15:29.079 --> 01:15:32.439
a way that they will probably die, Like the episode gets close to making

1180
01:15:32.520 --> 01:15:35.760
that comment but never does. And
then yeah, shit, like this just

1181
01:15:36.039 --> 01:15:40.479
first of all undermines the character that
you're meant to be portraying as righteous,

1182
01:15:40.600 --> 01:15:45.159
and yeah, it gives this episode, it gives this segment of real dark

1183
01:15:45.279 --> 01:15:51.239
tone that it just doesn't need.
That Then like is really confused again when

1184
01:15:51.479 --> 01:15:56.199
we move into the next scene,
where then it just does turn into like

1185
01:15:56.279 --> 01:16:00.920
an Adam West Batman sort of mode. Maybe that was trying to sort of

1186
01:16:00.039 --> 01:16:03.199
cover all ground, you know,
because we've had both versions of the Batman.

1187
01:16:03.239 --> 01:16:05.680
You had the Burton, you had
the Christopher Nolan, and you had

1188
01:16:05.720 --> 01:16:11.079
the fanboyant TV sixties era and the
later nineties ones as well mid to late

1189
01:16:11.159 --> 01:16:15.560
nineties. Yeah, well, I
mean in this mode as well, I

1190
01:16:15.600 --> 01:16:17.399
think you want to be going hard
in on the Nolan one. Yeah,

1191
01:16:17.479 --> 01:16:21.520
this is the most relevant movie,
the most relevant trilogy, and it's just

1192
01:16:21.600 --> 01:16:25.079
not But it's not funny though,
is it? Is it? You can't

1193
01:16:25.079 --> 01:16:29.720
get any humor out of the Christopher
Nolan esque Batman vibe. I thought they

1194
01:16:29.760 --> 01:16:32.760
were doing a decent job, like
and especially like the whole old timey workout

1195
01:16:32.840 --> 01:16:36.800
thing. Yeah, that's the era
that you're parroting. So yeah, yeah,

1196
01:16:36.880 --> 01:16:41.760
go for it and do all those
jokes about is an old timey gym

1197
01:16:41.840 --> 01:16:45.840
equipment funny, you know, that
sort of thing. But yeah, then

1198
01:16:45.960 --> 01:16:48.760
just sort of like mixing it in
with the stylistic differences, like yeah,

1199
01:16:48.800 --> 01:16:53.560
there was just a lot of tonal
inconsistency for this segment for me, it's

1200
01:16:53.640 --> 01:16:58.560
reviewed. It's revealed here that Bart
is looking for the snake tattoo, So

1201
01:16:58.960 --> 01:17:01.840
showaway were it a snake, but
you know that's what Bart's gonna be doing,

1202
01:17:01.960 --> 01:17:04.520
is you can be looking for the
villain has the tattoo of the snake

1203
01:17:04.560 --> 01:17:08.640
on his neck. We're now at
the museum and Lou says, there's no

1204
01:17:08.720 --> 01:17:11.720
sign of the serpent demand anywhere.
Everything's always worked with you, Like,

1205
01:17:11.840 --> 01:17:14.079
nah, yeah, I did like
that line. I feel like that,

1206
01:17:14.600 --> 01:17:17.479
like the relationship between Lou and Wigham
really broke down in the last like two

1207
01:17:17.560 --> 01:17:21.640
or three seasons, like Wigham was
just always mean to Lou. Now yeah,

1208
01:17:21.720 --> 01:17:28.079
yeah, to use another worst episode
ever term is that they call it

1209
01:17:28.159 --> 01:17:31.319
the Wigham Lou Corner, where a
lot of yeah, post classic Simpsons would

1210
01:17:31.439 --> 01:17:36.479
just go for these Chief Wigaman Officer
Lou like snippy, little like relationshipy sort

1211
01:17:36.520 --> 01:17:41.199
of humor sort of thing. And
it's also extra weird when you put in

1212
01:17:41.279 --> 01:17:44.960
the context, Oh, both these
people and characters were voiced by Hanka Zaria,

1213
01:17:45.079 --> 01:17:49.199
so it's just Hanka's Aria having these
little conversations with himself, like like

1214
01:17:49.439 --> 01:17:53.279
you think, like it's just just
him riffing in the voice booth, and

1215
01:17:53.319 --> 01:17:55.000
they were like, yeah, we
love it. Leave it in Like,

1216
01:17:55.520 --> 01:17:59.079
but I mean, this was not
a bad one to me. I like

1217
01:17:59.199 --> 01:18:01.960
that delivery of everything's work with here
one thing that always annoys me, like

1218
01:18:02.119 --> 01:18:06.119
my pet Peeve in modern season Simpsons. On the show here, I've actually

1219
01:18:06.119 --> 01:18:10.359
got one of our patrons, Dan
the man he's keeping track of how many

1220
01:18:10.399 --> 01:18:13.800
times it happens is the appearance of
Side Show Mel. Oh yep, he

1221
01:18:13.840 --> 01:18:15.960
gets two appearances in this one,
and this is one of them. Here,

1222
01:18:15.000 --> 01:18:17.840
so the Serpent's music starts playing in
Side Show Mel. My boon's got

1223
01:18:17.880 --> 01:18:21.600
to mind of its own. I'm
like, when did he become a main

1224
01:18:21.920 --> 01:18:27.199
side character because he rarely spoke in
like the first twelve seasons. I want

1225
01:18:27.199 --> 01:18:29.880
to say, right, really,
really, unless it was a crusty episode,

1226
01:18:30.119 --> 01:18:32.119
you never heard Mel, like occasionally
you would, you know, I

1227
01:18:32.279 --> 01:18:35.279
want to hear from sideshow Mel.
That's what Fanner says in Who Shop Was

1228
01:18:35.279 --> 01:18:38.920
the Band? So like he occasionally
spoke, but it was rare to hear

1229
01:18:39.039 --> 01:18:43.680
him speak. Now it's every episode
I've got something to say in the crowd.

1230
01:18:44.000 --> 01:18:46.920
It's like fuck off, yeah,
Like this is one of the bad

1231
01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:53.399
things about the teens and then especially
the HD era Simpsons is they kind of

1232
01:18:53.560 --> 01:18:58.479
delved into a bit of like Little
Britain style like catchphrase humor and yeah,

1233
01:18:58.520 --> 01:19:00.279
we get this from side show Melt, it from klead Us as well,

1234
01:19:00.359 --> 01:19:02.960
where it's just like this, oh
he comes up, here's an incest or

1235
01:19:03.039 --> 01:19:08.000
meth joke, and then or an
old Gil bit like and it just sort

1236
01:19:08.039 --> 01:19:11.680
of becomes these things where like the
story didn't call for these characters. You

1237
01:19:11.760 --> 01:19:14.640
were like, this is where we
can get the character to come in do

1238
01:19:14.720 --> 01:19:17.119
their catchphrase and I'll be off now
sort of thing, and like, yeah,

1239
01:19:17.159 --> 01:19:20.800
they really did put it a lot
of over valuing on Mels verbos,

1240
01:19:20.880 --> 01:19:26.159
delivery and that sort of thing.
And yeah, look forward to next season,

1241
01:19:26.239 --> 01:19:29.399
season nineteen, where they do an
episode narrated by side show Mel.

1242
01:19:30.199 --> 01:19:34.960
You mentioned this one. I'm a
little nervous. You've had Lisa goes Geger.

1243
01:19:35.000 --> 01:19:42.000
You're gonna see Dander going Geger.
Yeah. I am sickly looking forward

1244
01:19:42.079 --> 01:19:45.079
to hearing you review that episode.
Man, I think it's gonna send you

1245
01:19:45.159 --> 01:19:48.239
baddie. That episode's going to start
off with GUIDs doing the intro. Dano

1246
01:19:48.439 --> 01:19:54.800
not there. Dando died on his
way back to his own planet. Yes

1247
01:19:54.920 --> 01:20:00.399
he did. Indeed, that music
it's so hypnotic. May Boone has a

1248
01:20:00.520 --> 01:20:09.199
mind to be tune. I'll be
sneaking those jewels and venom gotta go.

1249
01:20:09.840 --> 01:20:14.640
Sorry, I didn't ask your permission. Hope. That's Cobra setic. Hey,

1250
01:20:14.840 --> 01:20:19.199
jerk puns are lazy writing up.
Batman then arrives and he stands in

1251
01:20:19.279 --> 01:20:23.960
the dip. The party is over, and he realizes that the serpent is

1252
01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:28.239
the one with the tattoo well obviously, and he kills him by pushes him

1253
01:20:28.279 --> 01:20:31.520
back ironically on fangs, and that
is the end of the Serpent. Then

1254
01:20:31.640 --> 01:20:34.039
Lisa the reporter, she rocks up. You know it didn't bring your parents

1255
01:20:34.079 --> 01:20:36.239
back? Boy, tell me,
big boy, was it a really worth

1256
01:20:36.279 --> 01:20:40.239
it? And he's like, well, it didn't bring him back, but

1257
01:20:40.279 --> 01:20:42.079
I've got millions of dollars and no
one tell me what to do with it.

1258
01:20:42.239 --> 01:20:46.640
Color Kevin McAllister, Yeah, And
then the episode ends with him using

1259
01:20:46.760 --> 01:20:53.199
the weird vibrating band old timing machine
and then Bikinni's like jump in the pool,

1260
01:20:53.239 --> 01:20:58.359
but he's like, nah, segment
over, Yeah, and that's the

1261
01:20:58.600 --> 01:21:01.079
end basically, So we have back
and present time, but points out,

1262
01:21:01.279 --> 01:21:05.039
you know, the acknowledging this the
three stories I've told, and this one

1263
01:21:05.039 --> 01:21:08.039
you know would have been the firm
will been better as a Halloween story.

1264
01:21:08.399 --> 01:21:11.880
And then home and the rich text
and the bonding over the fact that they're

1265
01:21:11.880 --> 01:21:15.880
both from where Connecticut? Connecticut?
That's right, and he says, how

1266
01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:18.600
many starts you think about there?
Hammer says two. Then they lay there

1267
01:21:18.640 --> 01:21:23.000
to figure out why humans are inclined
to hate each other, and they dedicate

1268
01:21:23.079 --> 01:21:25.960
the episode to all those who died
in the Star Wars film. Speaking of

1269
01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:30.039
Star Wars. Yeah, and that's
the end of the episode. So as

1270
01:21:30.359 --> 01:21:34.279
season eighteen sends to roll on,
majority of the episodes have very weak endings.

1271
01:21:35.479 --> 01:21:38.640
They're not really leaving you on much
of a high note. And I

1272
01:21:38.720 --> 01:21:43.199
think that reflects on the overall positivity
of the reviews. I think a lot

1273
01:21:43.239 --> 01:21:45.600
of the time the episodes ended after
the second act, it probably would be

1274
01:21:45.640 --> 01:21:48.560
given a more positive review. But
the last it's like they can't see the

1275
01:21:48.640 --> 01:21:51.399
landing anymore. It's like they write
an episode and then go, oh,

1276
01:21:51.479 --> 01:21:54.199
fuck, how are we going to
end it? I don't know, just

1277
01:21:54.239 --> 01:21:57.239
think of something, you know.
It's like they haven't planned an ending out

1278
01:21:57.239 --> 01:22:00.560
anymore, because so many of the
endings just seem so rush store out of

1279
01:22:00.640 --> 01:22:03.439
nowhere or make no sense or just
trying to tell a message. Yeah no,

1280
01:22:03.600 --> 01:22:05.880
this one as well, like because
yeah, at the end of art

1281
01:22:05.960 --> 01:22:10.880
story, Homer was just ignoring him
the whole time and talking with rich Texon

1282
01:22:10.920 --> 01:22:13.760
on the hood of the car.
And then it's like they're not solving their

1283
01:22:13.800 --> 01:22:17.600
difference, as they're just doing a
stupid little fucking only two stars and then

1284
01:22:17.800 --> 01:22:23.600
it just I don't know, riffs
it its way to an end question mark

1285
01:22:23.680 --> 01:22:28.720
and then just goes out on this
Star Wars like scroll of all these names

1286
01:22:28.760 --> 01:22:32.239
and whatever people who died in Star
Wars, and like there weren't any really

1287
01:22:32.279 --> 01:22:35.199
good jokes in that as well.
It just felt weird and like why are

1288
01:22:35.239 --> 01:22:40.880
we doing this? It is a
bit of the lolso random era of humor,

1289
01:22:41.560 --> 01:22:45.800
the era of comedy. I reckon
it was the Family Guy influence.

1290
01:22:45.880 --> 01:22:48.279
I think, oh yeah, one
hundred percent. Yeah, yeah, that

1291
01:22:48.319 --> 01:22:55.680
would have been so much damage to
animation. Yeah, I mean, God

1292
01:22:55.720 --> 01:22:58.399
bless me, he's made him a
lot of money, but he's brand of

1293
01:22:58.479 --> 01:23:02.880
humor. Really, I don't think
for the better, No, I mean

1294
01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:06.600
it's a mix because yeah, Family
Guy, I feel like settled into its

1295
01:23:06.720 --> 01:23:10.119
right, where yeah, it doesn't
matter, we're just setting up sucking a

1296
01:23:10.479 --> 01:23:14.680
long line of gags. But then
like American Dad tried, like and it

1297
01:23:14.800 --> 01:23:18.680
still does like, it actually makes
stories with good structure and satisfying endings and

1298
01:23:19.199 --> 01:23:23.119
you know, a logical through lines
with the plot. But yeah, the

1299
01:23:23.199 --> 01:23:28.079
Family Guy effect is yeah, gonna
be especially felt in these later teen seasons

1300
01:23:28.119 --> 01:23:31.199
where yeah, it's just like,
I mean, the best tay you can

1301
01:23:31.239 --> 01:23:34.880
give it is that it's a subversion
of the old format of tying a nice

1302
01:23:35.159 --> 01:23:39.199
making everything wrapped up in nice,
neat little package. But yeah, now

1303
01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:45.079
excuse me package. But yeah,
now the joke is undermining that, which

1304
01:23:45.560 --> 01:23:47.279
I don't know, maybe played at
the time, but now it just especially

1305
01:23:47.279 --> 01:23:50.039
when you're watching a lot of these
episodes one after the other, it's just

1306
01:23:50.119 --> 01:23:53.720
like, yeah, it's just a
pattern. It wasn't a one off to

1307
01:23:53.760 --> 01:23:57.239
subvert. It was just you get
you get out of episode free card.

1308
01:23:58.079 --> 01:24:00.319
What do we learn, Bomber,
what'd you learn from the episode? Mister

1309
01:24:00.359 --> 01:24:03.760
elliot j And yeah, yeah,
never put down your weapon, Never put

1310
01:24:03.800 --> 01:24:08.199
down your weapon. That is correct. I learned too. I've like that

1311
01:24:08.680 --> 01:24:12.079
it is okay to commit homicide as
long as you're saving somebody eighty cents.

1312
01:24:12.479 --> 01:24:15.840
Yeah, that's the price. That's
what a life is worth. All right,

1313
01:24:15.880 --> 01:24:18.159
guys. Now what's gonna happen is
I'm actually gonna get in touch with

1314
01:24:18.199 --> 01:24:21.680
mister Guy Davis and we're gonna do
his new name Championship in a few moments.

1315
01:24:21.840 --> 01:24:24.960
Yeah, obviously not recording it right
now, but you're gonna hear Guy

1316
01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:26.840
Davis's voice in a few moments where
we're going to be doing the new new

1317
01:24:26.920 --> 01:24:29.680
Championship. That's the one thing Guy
we'll be doing. But thank you again,

1318
01:24:29.800 --> 01:24:32.319
Alie Janey for Johnny is here on
forfing a Discount's been quite a joy

1319
01:24:32.359 --> 01:24:36.039
to sit down and talk to your
lovely self. No, absolutely, it's

1320
01:24:36.359 --> 01:24:40.920
you know, us to Simpsons.
Podcasters have been talking about wrestling so much.

1321
01:24:41.039 --> 01:24:44.840
It's nice to talk about the thing
that got us into podcasting in the

1322
01:24:44.920 --> 01:24:49.560
first place. Like, yeah,
even dissectingly is you know episodes which like

1323
01:24:49.840 --> 01:24:53.239
a life that we can still bring
up the good stuff and you know,

1324
01:24:53.359 --> 01:24:58.399
still relish in that because yeah,
the Simpsons isn't devoid of good content.

1325
01:24:58.680 --> 01:25:01.239
And yeah, I love seeing these
little glimmers and Yeah, chatting Simpsons with

1326
01:25:01.319 --> 01:25:03.960
you is always a treat, and
I'm just a little bit warm. I'm

1327
01:25:03.960 --> 01:25:08.720
just thinking right now, sometimes it's
hard at the best of times for Guy

1328
01:25:08.840 --> 01:25:12.399
Davis looking five minutes from my house
to get technology to work. So,

1329
01:25:12.920 --> 01:25:16.079
if for whatever reason, this show
doesn't happens to end in thirty seconds,

1330
01:25:16.119 --> 01:25:19.399
that's because I couldn't get this shit
sort of, which means that, don't

1331
01:25:19.399 --> 01:25:23.079
worry. The new name segment will
be on next week show. We'll have

1332
01:25:23.119 --> 01:25:26.880
a doubleheader on next week's episode of
four figure Discamp. Because I'm fingers crossed.

1333
01:25:27.239 --> 01:25:29.319
If this episode you look at your
time now, this episode still goes

1334
01:25:29.319 --> 01:25:30.520
fro another fifteen or so minutes,
it means I got through to guy.

1335
01:25:30.800 --> 01:25:33.199
If it doesn't, if you can
hear the intro music already, that means

1336
01:25:33.399 --> 01:25:39.079
it didn't work. Well, hopefully
his teeth are working. Yeah, thinking

1337
01:25:39.119 --> 01:25:43.039
of the guy, Good luck with
all that. Yeah, before we go

1338
01:25:43.199 --> 01:25:48.079
though, talking Muppets, is it
gonna happen or what? Oh? Yeah?

1339
01:25:48.239 --> 01:25:51.760
Oh man, I'm so excited to
buy that ida, especially like I

1340
01:25:51.920 --> 01:25:56.880
loved that recent Muppet series they did
on the Mayhem Band. I just was

1341
01:25:56.920 --> 01:25:59.159
the fucking best, right, I've
got the album right here. I bought

1342
01:25:59.600 --> 01:26:02.840
vinyl four Oh did awesome? I
didn't know that was the thing. Love

1343
01:26:02.920 --> 01:26:08.840
it the top the charts, mate, is that right man? Yeah?

1344
01:26:08.840 --> 01:26:11.520
I got to get myself a copy
of that. Like, yeah, that

1345
01:26:11.640 --> 01:26:17.279
episode where were talking, yeah please
do because yeah, that episode where Jane

1346
01:26:17.319 --> 01:26:23.239
is saying true Colors to what's her
name? It left me in tears.

1347
01:26:23.359 --> 01:26:26.600
That cover of True Colors is so
beautiful. Every song. And there's a

1348
01:26:26.640 --> 01:26:28.720
bank here he goes, he's the
album holding up for Elliot Jay. That

1349
01:26:28.800 --> 01:26:33.319
looks so good. Open it up. It's a gatefold. Yeah. Does

1350
01:26:33.359 --> 01:26:36.279
it have a colored vinyl as well? Oh that is a lovely spread.

1351
01:26:36.359 --> 01:26:41.880
That is some great heart. There's
the back here, very psychedelic. I

1352
01:26:42.000 --> 01:26:44.319
believe it is colored vinyl. I
shall take it out. We can show

1353
01:26:44.319 --> 01:26:48.279
it to you. Let's take it
out. It's like you can't see it.

1354
01:26:49.279 --> 01:26:54.000
It's like translucent, but it's like
swirls through it. Oh that is

1355
01:26:54.159 --> 01:26:59.479
unreal. Oh that is beautiful.
Every track, yeah, even the original

1356
01:26:59.520 --> 01:27:01.680
tracks they may for that show.
We're fucking good, right, so good?

1357
01:27:01.840 --> 01:27:06.640
Like I get the theme song stuck
in my head repeatedly like yeah,

1358
01:27:08.039 --> 01:27:12.439
yeah, and yeah, it was
just such a good series just so full

1359
01:27:12.439 --> 01:27:15.600
of joy and like, I really
wish they would do more Muppets material like

1360
01:27:15.720 --> 01:27:19.319
that and just like not try to
get all the fan favorites in, just

1361
01:27:19.640 --> 01:27:24.880
focus on a smaller cast and Muppets
and tell a limited series story with those

1362
01:27:25.600 --> 01:27:29.119
with a smaller cast of characters.
Yeah, this was just why it felt

1363
01:27:29.279 --> 01:27:33.920
like it felt like a fresh and
original where it didn't have to have Kermit,

1364
01:27:34.000 --> 01:27:36.119
it didn't have to have Fozzy in
or that in it, and it

1365
01:27:36.239 --> 01:27:40.039
was it was it really. I
don't think it was like a how the

1366
01:27:40.119 --> 01:27:43.239
band came together story. It was
more it wasn't set in the past,

1367
01:27:43.399 --> 01:27:45.520
was it. No, No,
it was set in the modern day.

1368
01:27:45.600 --> 01:27:47.840
It was like, yeah, how
did this band never record an album sort

1369
01:27:47.880 --> 01:27:50.159
of thing. It was just Nicola, my wife, you know Nicola,

1370
01:27:50.439 --> 01:27:55.079
she loves the one of rock and
roll, oh nah, and part of

1371
01:27:55.159 --> 01:28:03.560
the every day but they're just it's
amazing how much that show hawd you feeling

1372
01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:08.520
emotional for the Muppets again? M
m no, because I feel like Disney

1373
01:28:08.640 --> 01:28:11.159
have never quite worked out what to
do with the license. This is the

1374
01:28:11.199 --> 01:28:14.479
first time I was like, you
fucking stuck the landing. Yeah, because

1375
01:28:14.520 --> 01:28:18.239
even I really liked the Office Muppets
show that they did, where it was

1376
01:28:18.279 --> 01:28:24.560
about Piggy's late night TV show and
them doing the behind the scenes like and

1377
01:28:24.880 --> 01:28:28.600
just when I felt like it found
its footing, like Candate and ah,

1378
01:28:28.720 --> 01:28:30.279
that was such a shame. I
thought that could have been an easy four

1379
01:28:30.399 --> 01:28:36.600
season show right there. But yeah, and this was like, yeah,

1380
01:28:36.640 --> 01:28:41.239
a glimmer of hope that maybe there
is more Muppets content to look forward to

1381
01:28:41.359 --> 01:28:44.640
in the future. I don't know
if they could do another movie quite in

1382
01:28:44.720 --> 01:28:47.520
the same way that they did early
on, but like, if they do

1383
01:28:47.680 --> 01:28:51.279
more of these limited run series,
I'm all for it. It was just

1384
01:28:51.560 --> 01:28:56.239
such so joyous and yeah in that
way that, yeah, they got your

1385
01:28:56.279 --> 01:29:01.279
feeling emotions and you'd forget that these
are goddamn puppets. You tell so,

1386
01:29:01.359 --> 01:29:05.600
you're telling me it's time to play
the music. Yes, it's makeup time,

1387
01:29:05.680 --> 01:29:10.319
turn the lights all right, man, it's been a joy. Thank

1388
01:29:10.359 --> 01:29:13.039
you for joining us here this week. And I forget guys. Guy will

1389
01:29:13.039 --> 01:29:15.239
be back next week. I you
know what I'm doing. I'm just gonna

1390
01:29:15.239 --> 01:29:17.000
say it right now. I'm not
gonna bother. I'm just gonna go and

1391
01:29:17.039 --> 01:29:19.600
enjoy his time. Ever in Bali, there will be no mail bag this

1392
01:29:19.720 --> 01:29:23.359
week. There we know new names
this week that the new names will be

1393
01:29:23.439 --> 01:29:26.039
on next week shows. A double
header will do double the points next week,

1394
01:29:26.279 --> 01:29:28.720
so don't worry about that. It
will still be happening. But I

1395
01:29:28.760 --> 01:29:30.880
think let's just let's just wrap this
one up now because guy, he's had

1396
01:29:30.920 --> 01:29:34.239
he's had his mouth worked on.
He's over there working on his specscript for

1397
01:29:34.640 --> 01:29:38.279
his project that he's been working on
for years. Let's just not bother him.

1398
01:29:38.279 --> 01:29:42.119
Mate, you're asked up, guy. We'll see you next time.

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The next episode of four Finger disc
Out next week we shall be reviewing Little

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Big Girl. Should I be looking
forward to this one? Elliott? No,

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really, we for a bit of
fun with This was actually an unreleased

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podcast, but me and BT,
my normal co host on The Simpsons in

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we had like a tournament where we
argued to try and figure out what was

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our least favorite episode, and this
one ranked very high. Really, I

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will flag there is one good joke
in it that I still use to this

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day, where Bart's driving a car
and Lisa goes your hands are meant to

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be at ten and two not four
and nothing. Only good joke in that

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episode but you didn't like an episode
that I enjoyed recently, come with what

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it was like, and it's a
sakend to have opposite taste. But I'm

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intrigued. Now I'm going to like
it just spite you. Yeah, good

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luck. I will try. It's
a little big It's not a little big

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one. Little big one is good? What is that? Little Big Girl

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is next week's episode of four Forget
this guys, don't forget. You can

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please support us by either of joining
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So actually, if you are listening
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of Little Big Girls. If you
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episode right now, you can do
so. It's already available on our Patreon

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Don't forget. You can also rate
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us five stars. It all helps
new people discover the show. But for

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now, I am Dana, Elliot, Ja and Neil Any find the words

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for those incredible listeners out there.
Don't you go get revenge out there or

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whatever. But if you want to
get revenge on us, the best way

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to do it is with a five
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