WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:59.359 The following is a presentation of play Fly Sports properties. Welcome to another episode 2 00:00:59.399 --> 00:01:03.920 of This is Sparta. I'm your host Jason Straighthorn, along with my co 3 00:01:04.040 --> 00:01:15.840 hosts Otus Wiley and Jayu to Chu Culchritt. We all know what the events 4 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:19.879 of last weekend were, and we're obviously going to get into Illinois as that's 5 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:25.159 the next game on the schedule, but we'd be remiss if we would not 6 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:30.000 continue to discuss the events that took place on Saturday night as they continue to 7 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:37.760 update in the marketplace. We've seen more suspensions, but we'll get into more 8 00:01:37.879 --> 00:01:44.840 detail because one of our own Spartan Media Network colleague, longtime w JR personality 9 00:01:44.879 --> 00:01:51.439 in the Detroit metro area market, Steve Courtney, joins us today and Steve 10 00:01:52.000 --> 00:01:55.480 yes, sir, to the show. First of all, Steve, welcome, 11 00:01:55.480 --> 00:02:00.200 Steve Hey, welcome fellas a real pleasure and might I say honor as 12 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:07.680 well. You're making me plush, Steve. That's a hard thing to do 13 00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:21.039 there. J Absolutely, I know it's going to be just a regular day, 14 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:27.039 well as you know it's uh it's it's a regular great fall day right 15 00:02:27.080 --> 00:02:30.759 now. But we still got some overcast from uh you know, the post 16 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:37.879 post game issue that that transpires. Steven On on the on the show last 17 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:44.000 yesterday, we discussed obviously what transpired and sold some video and then you know, 18 00:02:44.039 --> 00:02:46.479 as we kind of rolled through, we we realized that our very own 19 00:02:47.159 --> 00:02:53.479 it was in the middle of it all and saw kind of developed and also 20 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:57.800 kind of heard saw the post or middle and the post, and so we 21 00:02:57.840 --> 00:03:00.280 wanted to kind of ask you, you know, one and you're on the 22 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:05.240 sideline, you know, kind of start in game and kind of seeing everything 23 00:03:05.319 --> 00:03:08.199 festering up and the emotions being really high during this rivalry game, but just 24 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:12.759 kind of talk us and walk us through kind of everything leading up to what 25 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:17.000 happened in the tunnel. Well, you know what fellas you could feel the 26 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:23.400 temperature rising immediately after the game. You know, Michigan gets their first win 27 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:30.639 over US in three tries, and you know, it really wasn't for them, 28 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:36.280 in my opinion, a postgame celebration for the victory as it was going 29 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:44.280 out of their way to come towards US. There was some melees going on 30 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:47.960 on the field shortly after, and I'm thinking to myself at this point, 31 00:03:50.159 --> 00:03:55.400 this has the potential of being a powder keg, so you know what that 32 00:03:55.560 --> 00:04:00.039 goes on, and I start making my way to the ton Well, as 33 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:09.719 I'm walking up, I see Jamon Green in the tunnel as collectively as Spartans 34 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:13.360 were leaving, and I'm thinking to myself self, this is kind of odd 35 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:17.839 how he's here. I thought there was protocol as to how two teams leave 36 00:04:17.920 --> 00:04:25.199 at Michigan Stadium. So not only is he walking amongst us, but he's 37 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:29.959 also spitting a little bit of venom. And I'm thinking, you know what, 38 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:32.560 with everything that just took place, and you're talking about obviously an in 39 00:04:32.639 --> 00:04:38.000 state rivalry, two schools that really don't care for one another. We've had 40 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:42.399 some confrontation on the field, and now this, I'm under the impression, 41 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:46.600 with all the security that's on hand right there, that they had one priority, 42 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:53.920 and that priority was get these teams off the field one at a time, 43 00:04:55.199 --> 00:05:00.000 Let Michigan State go we go, and then Michigan does whatever they got 44 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:05.120 do. So subsequently, fellas you know you read, and the school down 45 00:05:05.120 --> 00:05:09.879 the road has taken it upon themselves to say, yes, the tunnel's been 46 00:05:09.879 --> 00:05:13.959 there for one hundred years and there hasn't been any problems. Well that's not 47 00:05:14.079 --> 00:05:16.879 correct, because now you've had problems in two of the last three ball games 48 00:05:16.879 --> 00:05:24.519 there, and at halftime they've said publicly the protocol is this, since the 49 00:05:24.600 --> 00:05:29.399 visiting team is right there, they leave first and then we leave. Well, 50 00:05:29.439 --> 00:05:31.959 where was that now? I'm just going to say it this way. 51 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:40.920 I've been around a little bit. What transpired in the game Saturday was sad. 52 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:46.680 It was borderline horrific. But at the same time, it's an event 53 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:55.120 that could have and should have been avoided if some people did the job that 54 00:05:55.160 --> 00:06:00.720 they were probably supposed to do. You're not having me on your podcast right 55 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:03.480 now, and I feel bad about that, but I would rather that be 56 00:06:03.600 --> 00:06:08.399 the case than what we're going to talk about, not only today, Fellas, 57 00:06:08.879 --> 00:06:13.319 but every time we get together with that school down the road. This 58 00:06:14.120 --> 00:06:15.920 is going to be what's discussed. Now. To take it a step further 59 00:06:16.000 --> 00:06:20.519 quickly, I was reading a piece yesterday, how about this? This is 60 00:06:20.560 --> 00:06:26.319 where we're at right now? Is it time for Big ten Commissioner Kevin Warren 61 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:32.040 to pull the plug on the Michigan State Michigan rivalry. Are you kidding me? 62 00:06:34.759 --> 00:06:44.920 It's unbelievable where we're at. Oh yeah, Kevin Warden was actually at 63 00:06:44.959 --> 00:06:47.560 the game on Saturday, saw him a couple of times in the press box 64 00:06:48.120 --> 00:06:54.319 walking around, and now that would be a terrible thing to stop the rivalry. 65 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:57.680 I know this is something that's going to come up a lot, especially 66 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:00.199 next year. It's going to be all eyes on Lancy when this comes back 67 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:03.399 around. Steve, you talked a little bit about it, and you know, 68 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:08.519 tell us if you want to get into it. But you mentioned venom 69 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:12.240 being spit. You know, everybody wants to know what led up to this. 70 00:07:12.439 --> 00:07:15.160 You know, we saw, you know, a player from Michigan skipping 71 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:19.560 into the tunnel, like from the outside of the of the tunnel, and 72 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:24.079 then we saw the melee inside. But they had to be there's something that 73 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:28.959 happened in between and the venom you spoke about, what was that exactly? 74 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:31.560 Well, it was Jason was trash talk. As a matter of fact, 75 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:38.480 I was walking up and there were no players, None of our players were 76 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:42.680 in front of me. There was a collection of our representatives, you know, 77 00:07:42.879 --> 00:07:48.000 in our gear and whatnot, and Green is going on and on and 78 00:07:48.839 --> 00:07:54.120 one of our fellas turns and says, dude, you're a third stringer. 79 00:07:54.399 --> 00:08:00.000 Shut the app up. And that's where I left it, I kept going 80 00:08:00.000 --> 00:08:03.079 on my way, and I think at the end of the day, Fellas 81 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:09.000 is this. You know people in this great state they want a rivalry. 82 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:13.920 Well, look they've got one. And the truth of the matter is you've 83 00:08:13.959 --> 00:08:18.959 got to take that rivalry the good, the bad, and in this particular 84 00:08:20.040 --> 00:08:26.399 case, the ugly. It is very tough to defend a moment when you 85 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:30.399 get to helmet swinging, because there is no place in sport for that. 86 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:35.519 But look, this isn't the first confrontation between these two schools in the long, 87 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:41.120 illustrious history of the rivalry, and chances are better than not that it 88 00:08:41.159 --> 00:08:46.200 won't be the last. Certainly, I hope not to this degree. So 89 00:08:46.720 --> 00:08:52.600 what we've done is a university is head coach Mel Tucker Athlotic director Alan Haller 90 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:58.559 have handled this post haste. There have been now I think eight total suspensions, 91 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:07.679 and that's just the way it goes. And I know that nobody feels 92 00:09:07.720 --> 00:09:11.600 really good about what transpired, but I can say it because I'm not going 93 00:09:11.679 --> 00:09:18.039 to get fined or whatever. But I think there's a case here where if 94 00:09:18.080 --> 00:09:26.799 you're a visiting or the winning player here, putting yourself in that really short 95 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:31.840 tempered situation. Understand this, If you go for the bull, you get 96 00:09:31.840 --> 00:09:37.120 to horns more times than not. And I'm not justifying anything that took place, 97 00:09:37.720 --> 00:09:41.200 but look, nobody knows better than you guys on this esteem panel, 98 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:48.960 having played at this high level. It's a very emotional game period. You 99 00:09:50.000 --> 00:09:56.039 bring a rivalry into the situation where things didn't go your way and there's not 100 00:09:56.039 --> 00:10:01.159 a whole lot of good feeling Fellas. I just don't think it was the 101 00:10:01.200 --> 00:10:07.120 time or the place to have players from the school down the road in the 102 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:11.240 tunnel when we're trying to get the hell out. That's just a little editorial 103 00:10:13.840 --> 00:10:22.519 now, well said. Let everyone be very very clear in our message here 104 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:26.080 that there's no way that anybody on this panel, anybody on in Spartan Meetia 105 00:10:26.159 --> 00:10:33.320 network, condones violence in any way. That's not what we're saying at all, 106 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:37.879 exactly, not even in the least bit. You know what Fellas though 107 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:43.600 it has And this is again where we're at as far as social media goes. 108 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:48.840 Everything that I've pointed out is available on social media. Not to mention 109 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:56.519 the point in time where Number one takes it upon himself to cut around several 110 00:10:56.519 --> 00:11:01.279 people to get into the tunnel while we are leaving as a team. Now. 111 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:05.399 I don't know how it works there in a squared but for the life 112 00:11:05.440 --> 00:11:11.440 of me, I can't imagine they're not being protocol in place that if a 113 00:11:11.480 --> 00:11:15.639 player attempts that he has grabbed and said no, not right now, get 114 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:20.840 your behind back there with your team and leave with everybody else. But it 115 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:26.320 wasn't done. And Jason, you're so right not here condoning, and I'm 116 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:33.360 not here justifying, and I'm not defending. Some of our guys went a 117 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:39.159 little bit too far and they've been dealt with and hopefully that's a lesson that 118 00:11:39.200 --> 00:11:43.399 they will take with them for the rest of their lives. But you know, 119 00:11:43.440 --> 00:11:48.480 there's gotta be There's got to be, and I haven't heard a lot 120 00:11:48.559 --> 00:11:52.200 about it, and it kind of obsessed me a little bit. There has 121 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:58.879 to be some sort of accountability on their end. Absolutely absolutely, I mean 122 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:05.480 you don't see I just still can't fathom of, like why there's no separation 123 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:09.679 when you see them walking in the tunnel on post game, like you see 124 00:12:09.879 --> 00:12:16.159 you see people in black, but there should be more. You just see 125 00:12:16.200 --> 00:12:20.000 green. You should see the field being like legitimately, no one from Michigan 126 00:12:20.440 --> 00:12:24.840 even close to it, man, And so you know, like like Tomel's 127 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:31.000 point, we're looking forward to what's next now, like it's time to you 128 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:33.039 know, move past it. Matt passed it. We did what we have 129 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:39.519 to do from a protocol standpoint risk management. And you know, obviously this 130 00:12:39.559 --> 00:12:43.440 is all national news now, right, so everyone's finding a way to discuss 131 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:46.600 this, talk about it. But now you got to figure out how we 132 00:12:46.960 --> 00:12:50.200 heal and we move forward. And you know, praying for those guys who 133 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:56.919 obviously are suspended, because I know that they if they could take it back, 134 00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:01.360 they probably would take that that mistake back. But SHO has never been 135 00:13:01.399 --> 00:13:05.879 put in that position. To your point, Steve Is, operations should have 136 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:13.000 been stepping in fully as they're trained to do for postgame exoiting. Well, 137 00:13:13.080 --> 00:13:18.519 you know what, there was absolutely no room that I could see, and 138 00:13:18.559 --> 00:13:22.919 again being right there, allocated for the heat of the moment, and it 139 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:30.159 began right after the game ended, and there was some melees on the field, 140 00:13:30.759 --> 00:13:35.080 and if you have anything to do with security at that venue, you 141 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:43.919 had to have known that the top priority was then more than ever so important 142 00:13:43.919 --> 00:13:48.440 to get these teams off the field one by one. Had that been done. 143 00:13:48.879 --> 00:13:52.960 Again, we're not having this conversation right now, So Steve, I'm 144 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:56.720 gonna ask you a question so that people probably want to know, and that 145 00:13:56.879 --> 00:14:03.399 is, was there any way for the eruption that occurred to be prevented? 146 00:14:03.519 --> 00:14:07.799 If given that the guy made it through German, whatever he gets through, 147 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:15.879 he's in there. Did he get in close proximity with Michigan State players? 148 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:18.679 Did he put his hands on anyone that you saw? No, I didn't 149 00:14:18.679 --> 00:14:24.960 see any of that, Jason. All I saw from Jamon Green was him 150 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:28.559 being in the tunnel at what I thought at the time was a very inopportune 151 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:35.559 time and probably not the right thing to do to get into verbal gymnastics of 152 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:41.919 any sort with somebody who just lost a rivalry game. You know, it's 153 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:46.399 again very very emotional, and you know, for y'all who were players, 154 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:52.559 you know, only you know what it's like for us on the outside looking 155 00:14:52.600 --> 00:14:58.000 in as broadcasters or support staff or what have you. You know, it's 156 00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:01.919 not the same. But still we've got a piece of the program and you're 157 00:15:01.960 --> 00:15:05.120 not feeling all that well. You were hoping to come out of a square 158 00:15:05.240 --> 00:15:09.919 shock the world and and and come out with a w So tempers are short 159 00:15:11.080 --> 00:15:13.799 all the way around. So, like I said, at the beginning of 160 00:15:13.799 --> 00:15:18.679 our conversation, when I saw that he was there, I was kind of 161 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:22.120 taken aback by it, thinking this probably isn't the right time for this, 162 00:15:22.240 --> 00:15:28.080 dude. And you know that's when somebody turned. I think it was a 163 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:33.320 support individual from Michigan State. Dude, you're a third stringer. Shut the 164 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:35.639 f up, And I think we were probably off and running from there. 165 00:15:35.679 --> 00:15:41.759 Now, that's all I saw. I did not see the main confrontation, 166 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:52.399 So there's that, but I saw plenty. Okay, Well, yeah, 167 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:56.480 you know, first of all, we appreciate you joining us, Steve, 168 00:15:56.559 --> 00:16:00.720 and you know, for me, you know, obviously like you guys all 169 00:16:00.759 --> 00:16:06.000 feel, this is definitely a black guy on the university, on Michigan State 170 00:16:06.120 --> 00:16:10.799 University. Definitely for our players, our fan base, and you know that's 171 00:16:10.960 --> 00:16:15.440 been you know, expressed out there. Ad Hallard has, you know, 172 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:18.600 put a statement out, the President's put a statement out. Coach Tucker. 173 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:22.320 You know, he's you know, been in this throughout the entire time. 174 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:25.919 And you know, all I can say is, you know, like we 175 00:16:25.960 --> 00:16:30.919 said earlier, you know it's not you know, that kid put himself in 176 00:16:30.919 --> 00:16:33.320 a position there, but it did go a little too far, you should, 177 00:16:33.360 --> 00:16:37.519 you know, that moment coming down and hitting him and everything like that. 178 00:16:37.679 --> 00:16:41.399 Just I just hope we can move on from this. We can find 179 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:45.799 some uh some grace to also keep in mind, you know, people that 180 00:16:45.840 --> 00:16:52.240 are out there with comments and everything, you know, I just hope that 181 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:56.360 you can realize that these are eighteen nineteen year old kids. You know, 182 00:16:56.679 --> 00:17:00.039 a couple of kids made a mistake. There is no need to be you 183 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:06.440 know, coining them as thugs, coining coining coining them you know, you 184 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:08.960 know for you know, jail time and everything. They feel terrible about the 185 00:17:10.000 --> 00:17:12.680 mistake that they made. You know, they're suspended, they're paying for it. 186 00:17:12.720 --> 00:17:17.839 And also let's look at the mental aspect that athletes go through as well. 187 00:17:17.839 --> 00:17:19.880 This is taking a toll on them as well. And like like Jason 188 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:23.839 stated, everyone stated here, there's no fact that we condone you know, 189 00:17:23.880 --> 00:17:27.359 what happened. We're not you know, here chairing and applauding them, you 190 00:17:27.400 --> 00:17:30.720 know, because they're Michigan State guys. But we also you know, feel 191 00:17:30.759 --> 00:17:34.400 for them because they're kids. At the end of the day, Yeah, 192 00:17:34.440 --> 00:17:37.440 thank you for time, Steve, you know, appreciate you man, thanks 193 00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:41.240 for joining us. I know you have other obligations today, but again, 194 00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:45.680 great insight to what happened on Saturday. Unfortunate incident. Hopefully you can learn 195 00:17:45.720 --> 00:17:48.559 from it. All right. I can't say enough, fellas, how much 196 00:17:48.559 --> 00:17:53.839 I enjoyed being around y'all. A tremendous atmosphere. I got four games left 197 00:17:53.839 --> 00:17:57.880 in this season. Hopefully our spartan's able to finish strong. Uh put the 198 00:17:57.960 --> 00:18:03.519 ugliness by behind him, Jau. Like you said, sometimes kids make decisions. 199 00:18:03.559 --> 00:18:08.319 Remember the decisions we made at eighteen nineteen years old. The way we 200 00:18:08.359 --> 00:18:12.920 handle adversity certainly not the way you got to handle it in your late twenties 201 00:18:12.960 --> 00:18:17.880 and then beyond. So you learn from it, and I think we will. 202 00:18:18.559 --> 00:18:22.319 Fellows a pleasure, go Green, thanks for having me on. I 203 00:18:22.359 --> 00:18:32.119 appreciate see, appreciate you. Interesting leords from Steve Courtney there that was well 204 00:18:32.200 --> 00:18:37.519 documented report of what happened. Those are some eyes and ears that no one 205 00:18:37.559 --> 00:18:41.480 has had to date. So what I heard him tell you there, guys, 206 00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:45.920 is that he didn't see any initial contact from a player from Michigan. 207 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:51.880 So you know, there's a lot of speculation about that, but apparently a 208 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:56.519 date we have not heard or have any confirmation or video evidence of a Michigan 209 00:18:56.519 --> 00:19:00.400 player touching a Spartan player. To me, we got an is there? 210 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:06.880 Yeah? I mean, you know you got to be there to be able 211 00:19:06.920 --> 00:19:11.920 to to to witness it. But like I said, man, I think 212 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:15.960 it's time to put it, put it to bed, and let's let's turn 213 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:19.279 our attention to how we can mend and kind of rebound. And you know, 214 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:26.160 it's redemption of going down to this weekend of champagne. Clearly people are 215 00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:30.960 going to try to bait everyone on this this topic. It continuously poke the 216 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:36.720 bear and poke the bear, and you know, it's un fortune that we 217 00:19:36.920 --> 00:19:40.400 have to talk about it. You know, it's already been done. You 218 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:42.160 know what, you lose that game, you know. I think the mentality 219 00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:45.279 of a former player is that, you know, once Sunday hits, man, 220 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:51.680 it's like God's grace and mercies are new every morning. And so people 221 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:53.279 are still going to try to talk about it. And to to Stee's point 222 00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:57.720 at a great point is that it's just going to be forever embedded into this 223 00:19:57.799 --> 00:20:03.279 rivalry and it's gonna be uh mentioned when they come to town next year. 224 00:20:04.519 --> 00:20:11.440 Similar to it happen with the Devin listen hitting her turf and scratching up and 225 00:20:11.440 --> 00:20:15.440 putting a divid in there. And you know that's part of the ESPN reels 226 00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:18.960 and ABC reels as they looped us into this rivalry game. And you know, 227 00:20:19.599 --> 00:20:22.079 Otus, I'm gonna cut you off right there, and that's one of 228 00:20:22.079 --> 00:20:25.880 the things too. I'm sorry to cut you off there, but you know 229 00:20:25.960 --> 00:20:27.559 that's part of the problem as well. You know, we talk about, 230 00:20:29.720 --> 00:20:32.759 you know, the rivalry game and you see that, like you talk about 231 00:20:32.759 --> 00:20:36.279 those reels that come on there, you see you know, Michigan State player, 232 00:20:36.480 --> 00:20:38.680 you know, fighting a Michigan guy on the field, pushing each other 233 00:20:40.000 --> 00:20:44.240 and everything like that. If it's basketball, when it's North Carolina Duke, 234 00:20:44.319 --> 00:20:48.880 you always see that famous scene of Tyler hensbro bloody nose and everything. That 235 00:20:49.079 --> 00:20:52.799 is what is showed out there. And like I said, these are kids, 236 00:20:52.839 --> 00:20:56.039 you know, they feel okay, it's hate week. You know, 237 00:20:56.200 --> 00:20:59.960 let's go out in unleash hate. You know, that's another part of it 238 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:02.559 as well. And you know, all I can tell people that you know 239 00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:07.720 continue to watch is you know, and making comments and passing the judgments and 240 00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:11.160 everything like that is you know, we were all eighteen nineteen, you know, 241 00:21:11.680 --> 00:21:15.359 twenty years old. We made mistakes. These guys are paying for it. 242 00:21:15.440 --> 00:21:19.680 They're paying for it dearly. They're losing opportunities, you know, for 243 00:21:19.759 --> 00:21:22.880 their future. You know, some guys you know, possible play at the 244 00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:26.200 next level, you know, losing opportunities for it. And you know, 245 00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:29.599 I've got to say kudos to Michigan State. You know, they've been coming 246 00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:32.640 out, they've been you know, being doing the due diligence, they've been 247 00:21:33.160 --> 00:21:37.599 cooperating with everything. And like Jason alluded to earlier, you know in the 248 00:21:37.640 --> 00:21:41.240 show that you know, there were four more people suspended, and there was 249 00:21:41.920 --> 00:21:48.920 you know, a joint statement that was released yesterday. Yeah, yeah, 250 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:53.039 there was a joint statement right here. It was released yesterday by both Alan 251 00:21:53.160 --> 00:21:59.119 Haller of the vice president of Michigan State Athletics and Awesome Director of Athletics UH 252 00:21:59.400 --> 00:22:03.319 and Melton Ucker, Michigan State University had football coach. And I'll just read 253 00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:07.279 the first paragraph here. Michigan State University Athletics and the football program are committed 254 00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:14.880 to the highest level of sportsmanship. As we continue to gather view electronic evidence 255 00:22:15.039 --> 00:22:19.480 of the altercations between Michigan State and the University of Michigan student athletes. On 256 00:22:19.519 --> 00:22:26.319 October twenty ninth, twenty twenty two, we are suspending student athletes Malcolm Jones, 257 00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:33.839 Justin White, Ja Kobe WindMan, and Brandon Wright. These suspensions are 258 00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:42.720 effective immediately. Jenleman, as we spoke in the previous show, there were 259 00:22:42.759 --> 00:22:48.640 four suspensions, all on the defense side of the All more video evidence comes 260 00:22:48.680 --> 00:22:52.519 up, you have four more suspensions. I think these are all defensive players 261 00:22:52.200 --> 00:23:00.000 the looks of it, and one absolutely the one three time Big Ten Plays 262 00:23:00.319 --> 00:23:04.680 of the Week, uh In Jacoby Winman, who had a heck of a 263 00:23:04.720 --> 00:23:11.720 season. Going from an individual standpoint, it's really tough to see this happen 264 00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:14.519 and come down on a young man, all these young men. However, 265 00:23:15.559 --> 00:23:23.119 we cannot condone the violence. There are consequences for your actions. And look, 266 00:23:23.200 --> 00:23:27.039 we talk about being a spartan dog. We indoctrinate the kids, so 267 00:23:27.079 --> 00:23:30.000 I mean the guys that are coming in from high school, guys that are 268 00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:36.160 coming in from transfer portal, whatever, and we talk about the spartan dog 269 00:23:36.240 --> 00:23:41.200 mentality and all those things that it means to embody a spartan dog. It's 270 00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:45.319 how you care to yourself. Both on and off the field. Now the 271 00:23:45.400 --> 00:23:49.240 dog mentality, as far as the violence and being, you know, taking 272 00:23:49.359 --> 00:23:56.119 nothing from anybody and being just a relentless player. Let's been done between the 273 00:23:56.200 --> 00:24:02.519 lines. Those are things that have to be done between the white lines, 274 00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:07.400 through the whistle. When the whistle stop blows, you have to come back 275 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:12.119 to reality. No matter what happens. Fans are going to talk, other 276 00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:15.160 players are going to talk. Referees, hell, they're gonna make bad calls. 277 00:24:15.240 --> 00:24:18.960 Things are gonna happen. Coaches are gonna get in your face, Teammates 278 00:24:18.960 --> 00:24:22.240 are gonna get in your face in any of those circumstances that come about. 279 00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:27.400 There is no green ticket, a golden parachute to give you the right to 280 00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:33.279 put your hands on any other person. Not at all. That is unacceptable. 281 00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:37.000 We understand that, and these young men will learn from that. You 282 00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:41.640 cannot carry on like that. You know, I do not think honestly that 283 00:24:41.680 --> 00:24:47.920 they deserve to go to the being prosecuted and all that, because it still 284 00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:51.839 within the confines of the game. They haven't showered, they have they're not 285 00:24:51.880 --> 00:24:56.160 on the streets. But they have to learn from this, and that's for 286 00:24:56.240 --> 00:25:00.000 the youngsters that are coming behind these players. You can't. Is never a 287 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:03.480 right way to do a wrong thing, and that is definitely wrong. No 288 00:25:03.480 --> 00:25:10.039 matter who you are where you are, never put hands on anybody outside of 289 00:25:10.079 --> 00:25:15.200 the confines of the game that we play. Absolutely absolutely and this is the 290 00:25:15.559 --> 00:25:18.839 you know, the game of football is. It's an absolute crazy game. 291 00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:25.119 You It's not like basketball. It's not like baseball where you play, you 292 00:25:25.119 --> 00:25:26.759 know, three games in a week, two games in a week. This 293 00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:34.079 is something where you get your body mentally and physically prepared for one game in 294 00:25:34.119 --> 00:25:40.400 a six day span. And you know, you do that, you have 295 00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:42.799 all this pent up raide, you build up, you go on the field 296 00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:47.440 and you have the opportunity to unleash it on someone and you know, do 297 00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:49.200 that in that way. But at the end of the day, then you 298 00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:53.000 have to also have that that the mental aspect coming where you have that control, 299 00:25:53.240 --> 00:25:56.240 that mind control. When the game's over, now you have to go 300 00:25:56.400 --> 00:26:00.240 back, you know, to being a civilian and you know, so to 301 00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:03.240 speak. So you know this, this game of football is unlike any other. 302 00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:07.359 You know, if until you've played it, until you've you know, 303 00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:10.240 played it at a high level, you can you you will be able to 304 00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:12.039 understand a little bit. But you know, like we said, you know, 305 00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:17.680 they're you know, these kids are paying the consequences for their actions that 306 00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:21.400 happened, you know, and you know, rightfully so at the end of 307 00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:25.799 the day, rightfully for so the suspensions are warranted. I don't think any 308 00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:29.960 of you guys are going to disagree with me on that. But also to 309 00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:33.119 let's take a whole let's take a dive in a looking at the bigger picture 310 00:26:33.480 --> 00:26:37.839 here and the whole scenario. And you know, at the end of the 311 00:26:37.960 --> 00:26:41.319 day, you know, these are you know, these are somebody's kids as 312 00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:47.440 well. So the hateful comments that are coming in uh to these kids, 313 00:26:47.599 --> 00:26:52.359 uh to you know, future players, you know, coming into Michigan State 314 00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:57.000 coming into the program. You know, I think that's unacceptable. And what 315 00:26:57.200 --> 00:27:03.200 Jay he is referring to is some attacks that are happening the players, current 316 00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:08.960 players on Michigan State's roster, as well as recruits, committed recruits and their 317 00:27:10.039 --> 00:27:14.480 family. As we can see here Jordan Hall's mother, Serena Hall, Mama 318 00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:18.559 Hall. You know, she posts she got into some wars. People are 319 00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:26.359 getting into their dms saying hurtful things, talking about the program, talking about 320 00:27:26.480 --> 00:27:30.759 mel Tucker, talking about locking people up and like it's way out of hand. 321 00:27:32.119 --> 00:27:36.119 You know she's talking about never arguing. Then you go back to Mama 322 00:27:36.160 --> 00:27:41.680 Tron. You know, this is another twenty class of twenty twenty four committed 323 00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:47.160 recruit. You'll never hear the football program talk about these guys are their families 324 00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:49.960 and they're not allowed to they're not allowed to address this, but we can. 325 00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:56.119 And that's horseshit. Guys. You can't attack a kid and his mom 326 00:27:56.240 --> 00:28:00.920 and start threatening them about what happened on a game that they're not even they're 327 00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:04.359 not even in right, just a sheer fact that they committed to go to 328 00:28:04.440 --> 00:28:07.799 this school and get an education and play football for here. You know. 329 00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:11.559 Now, you know people are going out and attacking sixteen year old kids, 330 00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:15.559 attacking their families because they want to you know, better themselves by go to 331 00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:19.119 a university that they think is the best fit for them. You know, 332 00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:22.599 that's unacceptable. You know when you when you go, that's that's crossing the 333 00:28:22.640 --> 00:28:26.880 line as well. And I get you know fans, you know you say 334 00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:30.880 you know fandom. You know you pay for your ticket, you can be 335 00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:33.880 you can pay for your ticket getting in the stadium. You can boo all 336 00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:37.079 you want I tell you know, if when I was playing Boomy Boomy, 337 00:28:37.680 --> 00:28:41.359 yell at me, yell obscenities to me, but don't cross the line. 338 00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:45.960 And I think some fans in this case, when they're reaching out to kids 339 00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:49.000 that aren't even a part of the program yet all they are are given a 340 00:28:49.039 --> 00:28:53.039 commitment to say yes, I'm going to come and play football at Michigan State 341 00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:59.200 University, and then people are attacking their families and them. That's preposterous. 342 00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:08.359 What is leadership? I think leadership is handling something in the crisis scenario quickly, 343 00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:14.079 doing the best you can, getting the facts and making a quick decision. 344 00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:18.319 And then on the other side, the people who feel wrong in this 345 00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:22.759 scenario trying to find a common ground with the other side. Now I'm talking 346 00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:26.799 about both head coaches here. Now there's a big difference. Now, Tucker 347 00:29:26.920 --> 00:29:29.680 is doing the best that he can. He's being very transparent, and he's 348 00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:33.920 coming forward and he's dealing with it no matter what the repercussions say is personally 349 00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:37.519 on the team, what's gonna happen to the season? All that he's dealing 350 00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.240 with it. And on the other side, you have a coach who is 351 00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:45.759 standing back and fanning of flame, which is dangerous. This is I think 352 00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:52.720 the reactions of the fan base are coming from what head coach Jim Harbaugh is 353 00:29:52.720 --> 00:29:56.599 saying or not saying, and like, Hey, we're gonna press charge. 354 00:29:56.599 --> 00:29:59.279 You're gonna do this is terrible. You don't need, Jim, You don't 355 00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:02.880 need to do that right now. This is a rivalry that's going to be 356 00:30:02.880 --> 00:30:07.160 there for a long time. When you're eighteen to thirty years old, you 357 00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:08.759 knew how to mix it up just like the rest of them. It's no 358 00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:14.680 excuse for it, none, no excuse. But don't continue to do this 359 00:30:14.720 --> 00:30:19.119 because it causes harm. There are literally people that are getting death threats out 360 00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:23.359 here right now. There are families that have police protection right now because of 361 00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:30.440 this eighteen to twenty two year incident. Unacceptable incident that happened, didn't happen 362 00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:34.680 to these people's family, But because of the fandom, you understand the power 363 00:30:34.720 --> 00:30:38.200 that you have in the seat that you hold. That is that is my 364 00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:42.680 lead to the leadership in both sides of this. Right. But hey, 365 00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:47.400 guys, let's at the end of the day. With Michigan State has eight 366 00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:51.119 players that are suspended. You know they won't be able to play but you 367 00:30:51.160 --> 00:30:56.160 know what's happening. You know on Friday, the Spartans are going to get 368 00:30:56.240 --> 00:31:00.920 them. Get on the bus, go to the Capital Regional Airport, fly 369 00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:03.240 Champagnel, Illinois, and play a game. There's a game that's gonna be 370 00:31:03.240 --> 00:31:08.960 played. Let's dive into that and talk about that a little bit. Huh. 371 00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:15.240 There's a great segue to too. Let's talk football. That's talk over 372 00:31:15.599 --> 00:31:21.200 as you can tell. Man, over it. Man, it's come after 373 00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:29.920 my mama and we got problems. Son. I'm just telling us like it's 374 00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:34.559 turn the page out. Throws trolls. Calm down, be quiet, man, 375 00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:40.839 hide behind, Just calm down. All right, let's all on the 376 00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:47.039 next one. Let's onto onto the next. Bill Belichick will say that summary. 377 00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:52.839 Present it to you by I hop the two by two by two breakfast 378 00:31:52.880 --> 00:31:57.480 combo equals one delicious meal. Enjoy two pancakes, two eggs your way, 379 00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:05.440 and two pieces of making for only five dollars only at ihaw in joy this 380 00:32:05.559 --> 00:32:09.160 deal for a limited time, dying in only. Price and participation made very 381 00:32:09.640 --> 00:32:20.240 restrictions to apply. And chillman, this ain't your grandfather Champagne Illinois, brede 382 00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:23.680 heili, he's got it rolling down here. He had a rich history in 383 00:32:23.920 --> 00:32:30.000 Big ten coaching success his first year as the ALIGNI head coach and man has 384 00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:35.200 he strug Gold with a nice transfer by the name of Chase Brown running that 385 00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:39.160 rock. Yeah, yeah, he definitely did. This guy is a great 386 00:32:39.240 --> 00:32:44.880 story for Chase Brown. He's a kid from London, Ontario, Canada. 387 00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:47.599 You know, a big you know, big running back, not very big. 388 00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:52.200 He's five eleven, two hundred five pounds, but he can scoot, 389 00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:54.440 he can run, he can you know catch. You know, he has 390 00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:58.559 the ability to make great, great cuts in the backfield and he can lower 391 00:32:58.640 --> 00:33:00.960 his shoulder and get in there when he has to. As you see, 392 00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:02.799 you know in this TOUCHDOWNE look at him on this shoot route here just out 393 00:33:02.839 --> 00:33:07.359 of the backfield. You know, Christian McCaffrey like type of player, you 394 00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:13.519 know, very very athletic. This kid, he did transfer from Western Michigan 395 00:33:13.599 --> 00:33:19.279 and went to University of Illinois because his twin brother was at University of Illinois. 396 00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:22.559 So that's why he wanted an opportunity to play with his twin brother there. 397 00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:25.200 And you know what he's been doing since he's been there is he leads 398 00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:30.160 the nation in Russian in Russian yards. He has twelve hundred and eight yards 399 00:33:30.200 --> 00:33:36.319 on the ground with the five point four run per you know average, you 400 00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:37.400 know, on on the ground. So this guy, this guy is going 401 00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:39.920 to be a load. And if we want to be in this game and 402 00:33:40.000 --> 00:33:44.079 contained, you know, we have to be able to bottle him up in 403 00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:46.640 the backfield. He's not a very big back, so I think you know, 404 00:33:46.680 --> 00:33:50.680 you get a couple, get get swarm to the football. Defensively, 405 00:33:50.880 --> 00:33:52.559 we should be able to you know, take care of him if we do 406 00:33:52.640 --> 00:33:57.680 those things. Oh is looking at a running back like this from a defensive 407 00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:00.680 side of the ball, Like, what is it? What's the game stopping 408 00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:02.880 a guy like Chase Brown? Yeah, I mean when you're when you're a 409 00:34:04.000 --> 00:34:07.239 multi dimensional as a running back, and I mean, Jay, you can 410 00:34:07.480 --> 00:34:12.559 can attest man. You you don't know what you're gonna get, especially when 411 00:34:12.599 --> 00:34:15.320 it comes to like the offensive play playbook and calls you got a pre or 412 00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:20.760 you know prep for you know you can get you in the past. He 413 00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:23.719 got great hands and he reminds me of a guy who we had last year, 414 00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:29.760 right like was a threat in the passing game and can pass, block 415 00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:34.480 protection and also can run that thing, you know, North south and get 416 00:34:34.599 --> 00:34:37.639 get you know, make make guys miss. And so it's tough for you 417 00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:42.320 know, a defense to to truly, uh to bottle him up, because 418 00:34:42.440 --> 00:34:45.280 if you do stack the box, all right, he's just gonna go outside 419 00:34:45.320 --> 00:34:47.239 and and run a choice route or run a wheel route as you see here. 420 00:34:47.280 --> 00:34:52.800 And so you know, it's gonna communications key, communications key, where 421 00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:57.480 we're gonna have some new faces and some fresh legs on that defense due to 422 00:34:57.519 --> 00:35:02.920 our our guys that have been dismissed from team, you know effectively. So 423 00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:06.960 truly this week is all about, all right, how do we jail with 424 00:35:07.079 --> 00:35:10.480 the pieces that are coming in to our existing defense. And you know, 425 00:35:10.599 --> 00:35:16.880 the quarterback is though there's no small small guy either, Tommy DeVito, you 426 00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:21.239 know from the Jersey, from the Jersey, the Garden State, they say, 427 00:35:21.840 --> 00:35:25.320 New Jersey. This guy is is fearless. You know, you just 428 00:35:25.320 --> 00:35:30.679 see him staying in the pocket until the last second, which is uh, 429 00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:34.280 you know, kind of wordsome because we haven't we're having trouble to getting to 430 00:35:34.519 --> 00:35:37.440 the quarterback quick quick. And so if you bottle that up, he's staying 431 00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:42.000 there and you know, taking the hit. And so you know, with 432 00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:45.519 him being a Syracuse transfer, he's been in some big games, you know, 433 00:35:45.679 --> 00:35:50.480 or scenes and witness some big games as he lost out on that starting 434 00:35:50.559 --> 00:35:53.960 job in the ACC. So okay, let me go take my talents to 435 00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:59.480 the big ten. And these guys are ranked number fifteen or seventeen last week? 436 00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:07.440 Now what yeah fourteen on fourteen? Yeah, so yeah, I mean 437 00:36:07.719 --> 00:36:10.760 we talk about passing, you know, when it comes to him like fifteen 438 00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:16.960 ninety four yards passing twelve TVs. Two interceptions, And as you know, 439 00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:22.880 our secondary is what it's last right now, it's struggling, and so in 440 00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:27.519 order to win the game, we gotta win the air. And it's clearly 441 00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:31.840 they're balanced attack. So we'll see how this goes on Saturday. Yeah. 442 00:36:31.920 --> 00:36:37.000 So with with this this quarterback to Veto here, you know, a guy 443 00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:40.760 transferred from Syracuse, you know, coming. He's not a guy. He's 444 00:36:40.800 --> 00:36:45.480 not, by no means is he a sexy player. He's not a sexy 445 00:36:45.519 --> 00:36:47.840 quarterback that's going to come and make those splash plays. He's a he's a 446 00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:52.039 field general. He's a guy that's going to come in and not lose the 447 00:36:52.119 --> 00:36:55.760 game for you. And I got a question for you, otis being a 448 00:36:55.800 --> 00:37:00.199 defensive player and you and you're in there in the you know, a film 449 00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:04.960 room, and you're game planning for a team like Illinois. It's a very 450 00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:07.760 balanced team. You got a quarterback throwing over fifteen hundred yards for the season, 451 00:37:07.760 --> 00:37:10.239 you got a running back with over twelve hundred yards for the season. 452 00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:15.280 You know, first question is how do you gain plan for that balance? 453 00:37:15.679 --> 00:37:21.079 And then the second thing is as a defensive player. Let's go back to 454 00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:24.480 talking about Chase Brown the running back. This guy's every down back. You 455 00:37:24.519 --> 00:37:29.000 know, in today's day in age, with the you know, rotating backs 456 00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:31.039 and stuff like that, some backs come in. You know, hey, 457 00:37:31.079 --> 00:37:34.880 this guy's gonna run the ball, or this guy's gonna be in for pass 458 00:37:34.920 --> 00:37:37.440 protection. This guy now he can run our pass. So what's your mindset 459 00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:42.679 if you're back there as a safety and this guy's every downback, what do 460 00:37:42.719 --> 00:37:45.320 you think about? Like, you know, how do you there's no way 461 00:37:45.320 --> 00:37:51.360 you can cheat? Well, if your team you're not prosperous son, that'sn't 462 00:37:51.360 --> 00:37:57.599 anything right but straight eye control. As you know, you're gonna get everything 463 00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:02.719 from the play action to you know, shotgun you know, straight motion from 464 00:38:02.760 --> 00:38:07.000 from him. But they're gonna put him in every situation to win that game. 465 00:38:07.079 --> 00:38:10.599 And as you know, he's the focal point. And so you know, 466 00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:13.960 you got some other role players that are gonna step up. But as 467 00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:16.280 a as a sat, as a safety, you know, in my mind, 468 00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:21.920 I'm I'm thinking about how many hits can we get to him when he 469 00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:25.800 touches the ball that you got to just wear and tear and knock the tree 470 00:38:25.800 --> 00:38:30.280 down, chop by chop, right, And so he is not a big, 471 00:38:30.400 --> 00:38:31.719 big guy, but five to eleven as a running back, I mean 472 00:38:31.760 --> 00:38:37.280 that's decent size and speed for any any running back. And so and everyone's 473 00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:43.400 not like teacher, You're out here Jerome Bettison got the rules and got the 474 00:38:43.440 --> 00:38:49.199 physicality. But it's really gonna start up front with the front seven and truly 475 00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:54.239 understanding gap control is that on your gap and don't get single handedly blocked by 476 00:38:54.320 --> 00:39:00.239 one offensive guy, which you kind of saw in our highlights loud on the 477 00:39:00.320 --> 00:39:06.559 on the recap of Michigan game, is that we can't lose the blocking defender 478 00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:10.440 battle where we're gonna get some pools and guards, we're gonna get aggressiveness when 479 00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:14.599 it comes to fire off the ball. All right, let's get gap control 480 00:39:14.920 --> 00:39:19.239 and let's keep him in the space of the tackle box because as we know, 481 00:39:19.480 --> 00:39:22.119 he's going north south, but when he bounces, he has the speed 482 00:39:22.199 --> 00:39:24.840 to beat you. And then you can't get a load of sleep if they're 483 00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:28.719 gonna go pounding, pounding, pounding, and then they go to the air 484 00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:34.039 where you gotta have someone accounting for him when he comes out into running you 485 00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:37.239 know, a pass out the back floor, half back screens. You know, 486 00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:38.679 it reminds me of a you know, we had to go there and 487 00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:43.320 play them with Ron Zuck was the head coach and he had Juice Williams. 488 00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:46.480 You had with shan Minhall. You had these guys, uh that had a 489 00:39:46.559 --> 00:39:51.159 one to two punch where you had to you have to worry about two guys 490 00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:54.239 that could run that ball and uh, at least you know Tommy DeVito's not 491 00:39:54.400 --> 00:39:59.639 as mobile, but let's let's not Lord of Sleep where this guy's smart enough 492 00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:01.559 to get out the pocket and run and get you know, positive yards. 493 00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:06.800 And to your point, Jayu, it's truly going to be communication over everything 494 00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:12.039 because we got some new guys who may not be fully embedded into the playbook, 495 00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:15.119 but we'll have to play because of the guys we have that are no 496 00:40:15.199 --> 00:40:17.920 longer there, and so we still have Xavier, we still have you know, 497 00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:22.559 Jacob Slade, we still have Holiday, We still have guys that are 498 00:40:22.639 --> 00:40:27.079 nucleus guys that bring everyone together. And this is that that I think the 499 00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:30.679 model for this weekend is, this is a redemption. This is an opportunity 500 00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:36.679 to turn the tide of bringing in some sunshine on a cloudy, dark day 501 00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:42.800 right now. So I'm interested to see how we're prepping right now because we've 502 00:40:42.840 --> 00:40:45.199 been so bogged down with all this news. Is that, Okay, let's 503 00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:50.320 go to Champagne and let's let's let's play some spartan football. Yeah. By 504 00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:53.599 the way, Blake korn If for those of you at home that are checking 505 00:40:53.960 --> 00:41:00.679 five eight and nine pounds, so to Oldis's point, this is a pretty 506 00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:06.119 decent size running back to you, right, Yeah, he's a decent sized 507 00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:09.760 guy. Final the limit to ten and he absolutely can run it. But 508 00:41:09.880 --> 00:41:14.159 look looking at the stats, you know, for this particular game, this 509 00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:22.079 matchup, Illinois comes in the number two ranked team in the nation for time 510 00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:30.400 of possession. Do you believe that thirty five minutes and twenty two seconds Michigan 511 00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:37.159 State one hundred and thirtieth twenty four minutes and twenty four seconds. So Illinois 512 00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:42.480 wont pride hisself on holding that rock and churning it, eating up the clock 513 00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:49.039 with Chase Brown and just moving those chains methodically. And they back it up 514 00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:53.039 with one heck of a defense. If you look at the scoring defense number 515 00:41:53.039 --> 00:41:59.920 one in the nation, total defense number one in the nation, guards per 516 00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:06.719 allowed, oh two, number two in the nation, and rushing defense and 517 00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:13.400 passing defense both number two. You're talking about a team with Brett Beelman here, 518 00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:20.119 guys that has really committed to running the ball, to having ball control 519 00:42:20.639 --> 00:42:24.679 and playing stingy defense when you talk about those guarding numbers coming out of the 520 00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:30.239 Big Ten, Yeah, absolutely stingy defense. And what Brett Bilham was doing 521 00:42:30.280 --> 00:42:36.079 is he's taking that recipe that he used in Wisconsin all the time he had 522 00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:38.800 success in the early part when he was at Arkansas. He's bringing that to 523 00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:44.920 Illinois and he's going out as well, and he's utilizing the transfer portal to 524 00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:47.159 get guys that he can, you know, plug in right now and play 525 00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:51.679 the type of football that he wants to play. So it's gonna be a 526 00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:57.599 big test test for Michigan State this weekend, and I'm looking forward to seeing 527 00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:01.760 who on the Spartan specific on the defensive side is gonna step up? All 528 00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:06.440 right, you know, we have eight guys out next man up mentality, 529 00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:08.760 who's gonna step up and make a name for themselves? Who's gonna be that 530 00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:13.480 one that said, Okay, I'm gonna do this for our team, us 531 00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:17.039 we our mentality. We have some guys that are down right now. There's 532 00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:22.159 a great cloud hanging over our program. Right now. Let's go out on 533 00:43:22.920 --> 00:43:27.159 Saturday and play like we know how to play. Let's go out on Saturday 534 00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:32.320 and make Spartanation proud. Let's go out on Saturday and give Spartanation something to 535 00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:37.320 smile about, because the past few weeks and especially this week, there has 536 00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:42.440 not been much to smile about. So that challenge is on the Michigan State's 537 00:43:42.519 --> 00:43:45.039 defense. Who's gonna be that person to step up? And more so, 538 00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:50.880 now you talked about the time of possession that Illinois you know, you know 539 00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:54.719 controls there. Michigan State's offense has to come to the party. They have 540 00:43:54.800 --> 00:44:00.360 to come to the party. They have to score thirty points. Thirty points 541 00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:02.639 wins this game. Whoever scores thirty points is gonna win this game. So 542 00:44:02.800 --> 00:44:06.280 they have to do that. They have to get the ball in the playmaker's 543 00:44:06.280 --> 00:44:08.280 hands. They have to establish the run game. The offensive line have to 544 00:44:08.280 --> 00:44:15.960 be have that downhill mentality and ready to go. So Spartan players give the 545 00:44:15.000 --> 00:44:22.960 fans something to smile about. Yeah, I mean, I mean definitely that 546 00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:25.599 was that. I'm about to close. And then he goes into the to 547 00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:30.639 the to the Book of Hymns and starts to start singing the gospel, Gospel 548 00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:37.679 ritual. You know, you think you know I was asked earlier? Is 549 00:44:37.760 --> 00:44:42.199 like you know, with these controversies that happened or you know, a suspension 550 00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:45.480 or something that is you know, the talk of the town or talk of 551 00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:51.119 the nation is what do you do internally? And this is where you're gonna 552 00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:57.840 see us jeling together and more so is rallying the troops and locking arms. 553 00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:01.559 And are you you my brother's keeper? Is that opportunity to say, are 554 00:45:01.599 --> 00:45:06.239 you my brother's keeper? Are we going to go out here? And you 555 00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:08.519 know, one of my one of my best friends and also a roommate, 556 00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:13.519 Ross Weaver, would always say who rides and we would always respond, we 557 00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:17.039 ride, Yeah, we ride, and so how can we do that? 558 00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:22.199 It's truly, like we're blocking that noise out and you will see, uh, 559 00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:27.400 depending on what we come out Saturday. You can you can immediately tell 560 00:45:27.440 --> 00:45:31.039 when you're warming up that all right, these guys have have answered the call 561 00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:35.800 and ringing the bell that you know, yes we had a mishap, but 562 00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:38.320 we're still going to push through and we're still going to persevere and we're gonna 563 00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:42.760 show up. And that's all we ask is to show up and just play 564 00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:49.000 spartan relentless football and uh and let at the end of the game we're satisfied. 565 00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:53.639 We're also you know, we're not leaving the field with regrets. And 566 00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:58.079 so I'm looking forward to it, and I know our staff is building our 567 00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:02.760 guys up emotionally, but also it's gonna start within from the player led standpoint 568 00:46:02.800 --> 00:46:07.719 of listen, let's get this going. Let's turn and turn the tie. 569 00:46:07.039 --> 00:46:12.159 We still have something to play for. Is let's get to the bow eligible 570 00:46:12.239 --> 00:46:17.280 to start winning in the win column. And yeah, to bring it up, 571 00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:21.960 I had to bring it up. So yeah, let's let's let's do 572 00:46:22.039 --> 00:46:25.719 that. Let's do that, and let's focus on objective of small wins and 573 00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:31.840 like we still can reach an objective for this season and we're not throwing in 574 00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:36.239 the towel, and I think we got we can show that that we're stronger 575 00:46:36.800 --> 00:46:42.039 together when these situations arise. Well, thank you, gentlemen. You know 576 00:46:42.480 --> 00:46:47.039 we remiss if we didn't mention the passing of some great Spartans in their own 577 00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:54.480 right, longtime video man. Everyone knows Tom Shepherd. Shep lost his wife 578 00:46:54.599 --> 00:47:00.119 barb Let's past weekend, and you know, our thoughts prayers are with him 579 00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:07.480 and also with the Perlis family, as longtime head coach and athletic director George 580 00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:13.800 Prost's wife Sally, also passed away recently. I thought some our prayers are 581 00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:25.559 with both families during this difficult time. Well, Jason, real quick there, 582 00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:28.960 let me just jump in with that, you know, quick story about 583 00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:34.320 Shep. You know, people don't realize how intricol of a part these guys 584 00:47:34.360 --> 00:47:37.679 play. The video guys there the ones film and practice film, you know, 585 00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:42.960 breaking down clips and everything. I remember my sophomore year going when I 586 00:47:43.000 --> 00:47:45.440 was there at Michigan State. You know, we're talking about being a big 587 00:47:45.480 --> 00:47:49.880 back and how to run like a big back. And I went into the 588 00:47:50.000 --> 00:47:52.280 video room and asked Shep. I was like, hey, can you put 589 00:47:52.320 --> 00:47:58.639 together clips of Jerome Bettis for me and he came in and he you know, 590 00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:00.159 the next day, you know, he had this. It was back 591 00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:04.519 in the day of DVDs. He had a DVD of you know, thirty 592 00:48:04.519 --> 00:48:07.519 minute DVD of all of Jerome Betta's best runs, his footwork, lowering the 593 00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:10.360 shoulder and everything, and you know that's just you know, interting. You 594 00:48:10.360 --> 00:48:14.079 know, he's not getting the shine on the field, you know, for 595 00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:17.239 winds and everything like that. But behind the scenes, you know, you 596 00:48:17.280 --> 00:48:21.079 know, great dude, great part of the program that these video guys do. 597 00:48:21.119 --> 00:48:22.280 And you know shep you know, great dude, and you know, 598 00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:30.840 really sorry, uh for his loss, Absolutely absolutely. I always want to 599 00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:34.480 know too, what did you take from that, uh that that highlight film 600 00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:37.920 of the bus the bus Obviously he was a train he was too cheer at 601 00:48:37.920 --> 00:48:40.719 that moment, but like, what did you take from that? Well, 602 00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:43.840 that taught me, you know as a big back. You know, I 603 00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:45.960 think we talked about this earlier. You you get in there and you try 604 00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:50.440 to not be yourself. You see all these little scat backs out there. 605 00:48:50.440 --> 00:48:52.960 You see the Barry Sanders, you want to do all the different moves. 606 00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:55.639 What watching him? It taught me to work on my footwork, and it 607 00:48:55.679 --> 00:48:59.360 taught me to be true to myself. If I'm a big back, be 608 00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:02.320 a big back. Don't be a dancing bear. You know that's a big 609 00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:06.280 thing. You know, these big bats want to be dancing around and everything. 610 00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:08.119 And that's what Ron Dayne got away from when he went to the NFL 611 00:49:08.159 --> 00:49:12.800 and danced himself out of the league. So I told myself, you know, 612 00:49:12.840 --> 00:49:14.960 be true to yourself. If you're a big back, be a big 613 00:49:15.000 --> 00:49:17.559 back. Lower your shoulder, use your footwork, and that you don't have 614 00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:21.480 to be the fastest guy. You don't have to run four three forty. 615 00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:24.960 If you have quick feet that can get you. Yeah. I thought you 616 00:49:25.039 --> 00:49:30.000 was gonna say when you said that dancing bear. I just thought about the 617 00:49:30.079 --> 00:49:39.639 charming and commercials of the Bears. You totally until Also, hey listen, 618 00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:43.599 yes, you know what time of year it is. Everybody, it's time 619 00:49:43.639 --> 00:49:47.960 to get out the vote. Don't forget that plan to go out and cast 620 00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:53.199 your ballot. Here's a way to do it, or to plan my ballot 621 00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:59.519 dot com o. Yeah, I think you know straight. I mean, 622 00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:04.639 we talk about the importance, right is not just showing up. It's educating 623 00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:09.719 yourselves and me and myself I'm taking into get obviously my own values of practicing 624 00:50:09.840 --> 00:50:15.119 is like knowing your ballot so when you show up, you're not just like 625 00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:20.400 in testing where you're just oh, I'm hoping, wish something happens, and 626 00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:22.800 I'm just scantron just feeling out so I can get it out and do my 627 00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:27.920 duty. I think we all have a civic duty to truly know who we 628 00:50:28.079 --> 00:50:31.519 have either both sides. It doesn't like it doesn't matter what you're voting which 629 00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:38.079 side. It's truly knowing who is best for the jurisdiction or even the state 630 00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:42.760 you're in, but more so for the state of Michigan. Is very important 631 00:50:43.079 --> 00:50:49.000 that you get out and vote. And so obviously this is not just hey, 632 00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:52.239 how you do it. It shows your locations as well, so you 633 00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:55.599 know, look at where your nearest location to your residence is so that you 634 00:50:55.639 --> 00:51:00.199 can go, or where you're registered at. And so it's very important. 635 00:51:00.280 --> 00:51:06.960 And it's November eighth is when we obviously go to vote, So be be 636 00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:12.119 ready next Tuesday to go out and show up, show up, and show 637 00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:14.960 up. My dad he was always saying, is his his his sermons? 638 00:51:15.360 --> 00:51:19.360 God shows up and shows out. So everyone needs to show up and show 639 00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:22.840 out in the voting. I love it perfeally in with that, that's a 640 00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:28.840 nice bed addiction pasted a while. Now, let's ready for communion. Lit'st 641 00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:37.800 uh really good loved all right. That's that's even. We're gathering here, 642 00:51:39.519 --> 00:51:46.079 all right for Otis and Wiley and Jauch colcord On, Jason Straighthorn. This 643 00:51:46.599 --> 00:52:00.960 is part to have a good night, God bless and go white fur