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You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio
Network, the best in paranormal talk radio

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in the UK and around the world. There are more than a thousand musical

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records made around the world every month. Ninety of them are flops, but

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ten percent are not. These are
called hit songs, and how they're made

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is one of the most closely guarded
secrets in the entertainment business today. Join

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us now as Mac and the gang
take a deep dive into the strange world

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of hit music and people who make
it. This is Mac Maloney's Musical X

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Files and now here's Mac. Welcome
to Macimony's Musical X Files. Here on

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the Distant Thunder Radio Network. This
is macmil only while one of the whevery

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special show we help for you tonight. First, let me introduce the members

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of the Polose Girls. He's here, girls, He's here. Here we

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go. I'm here, fully clothed
and everything. No, wait, don't

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don't tease them, Okay, girls, sit yourself down, get your big

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box of cleanings, your big box
of wipes. Start finny so you're squeegee

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in your loub I'm sorry lost the
very famous one wanted to see you one.

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Hello Macall oh, girls, ladies
and gentlemen, all ships at sea,

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welcome to the show. And as
you know where I live for these

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shows, especially the music show.
Okay, these are the most fun.

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I think. Well, let's see
how this goes. Yeah, we'll see

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everything, and that's where it's the
most fun. Everything, okay with you

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over there across the puddle and all. Yeah, I'm still trying to find

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out what happened with Prince William.
But you know, Prince William, no

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new news. Huh, he's disappears
at the angle. Yeah. Well,

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you know they're trying and keep it, keep thinking some down low with the

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the royal family. You know,
if I hate to be like this,

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but if I had to bet,
not that I've ever done that, I

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get a feeling that the King Charles
is on his way to meet his mother

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and they just grooming the William.
So you're going to take over in about

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a week. You're gotta get shipped
together. That could be they might be

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fitting in for a new suit.
Yeah exactly, yep. Wow, well

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anyway, wow yeah uh, speaking
of royalty, also joining us is Lonely

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Larry up there in Upstate in the
those sideways in your eye double l how

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are you? I'm good, but
I'm searching for how I count as royalty?

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But I'll take it. Do you
know have you ever done the genetic

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search? You? I haven't.
But my dog has your dog, cass.

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That's the priority in this house.
And where's the dog? From Lebanon

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talks from help? Very good?
We were also with us is where is

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Rob Ferrow? A good friend Rob
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one. Rob, how you doing? And if you want to, uh,

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paint the picture in your head a
young Stanley Tucci. Okay, that's

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a com Yeah you said, let's
say young you look like Stanley Tucci.

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Okay, bless you, bless you
man. The Devil Wears Pradact era Stanley

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Tucci. I never saw it,
never won one of my favorite movies.

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And uh, listen to say,
watch that movie every day for some reason

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you do, especially the first ten
minutes of it. Why now we have

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to know why? Tell us why? Well? The Devils product is about

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a fashion magazine, right and the
publishing house that's run by Meryl Street.

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And there's got some fantastic actresses in
it, but also has some pretty good

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models. In fact, Giselle Bunching
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but the beginning of it at opening
number being played in the background ahead,

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it's a dance number. It's it's
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see is I think the title of
it. I forgets who the the group

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is. It's a female group and
the models, the girls who work for

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this fashion magazine called Runway, are
getting dressed. They're getting dressed for work.

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It's all coming together, about about
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who is not getting super dressed.
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The shots are like each individual person
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something almost naked underwear to ear rings, the whole deal. And they're ready

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to go out and grab a taxi
in two hours. That was what they're

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eating for breakfast. They're all eating
something super healthy and and Hathaway is,

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uh, he's about ready to order
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So now I know why you watch
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minutes every day, it's it's non
stop funny though it's serious sounds. Meryl

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Streep is amazing. Yeah, Tucci
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a secretary who's who's trying to groom
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move up the ladder. Have you
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You Yeah, you go a lot
of tofo over in England. I don't

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know anybody eats tofu. Listen,
you've been stepping now. That was four

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minutes and ten seconds stepping on our
last guest introduction one one, but it

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was fascinating. We'll see. Yeah
she is? How is she saving the

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best for last and joining us on
a very rare live appearance? Very lovely

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lois nae, lois Hi. Everybody, we have to clap for her.

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Guys, please clap. She's clapping
for herself. So how are you?

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I'm just dandy? Thank you,
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or listen to you talk about music. Well, you're not going to join

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in. Well, I'm not a
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Well no, but you all have
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know a couple of stories you can
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well, I'll pop that in although
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fascinating, but we'll see. Let
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anyway, so tonight, what we're
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be talking about music and mostly about
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with real musicians, are you know, just things that have happened in concerts

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that you know kind of stuck up
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let me just go to you for
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Now, how how long have you
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for quite a while, right,
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do it on the regular, I'd
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years now, Okay, And don't
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explained those two? Yes? So
I have two websites. One is of

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Personal interest dot com, which just
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interviews that have done. Another website, though I have, called the Giving

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Arts dot Com, is a vehicle
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So they will invite me to the
fundraiser. Sometimes I'll promote it ahead

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of time. I'll go there and
write about the event and then at the

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in within the article, I will
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I witness. Yeah, yeah,
that's okay. I like that idea.

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And so so you've you've met like
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and last time he ran, I
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celebrity would like surprise us that they
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I mean, Like what celebrity was
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be And Paul Stanley of Kiss Yeah, yeah, yeah, we saw the

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access interview with him with Dan Rode. He's an interesting is I heard a

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lot of things about him and I
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and I actually had two sets of
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can't be too profane. One if
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the other if he was not a
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jerk Alum he was. He was
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he likes competence, he likes professionalism. Go in there and you don't ask

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him something that makes him feel stupid
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Yeah, And I talked him for
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yeah, he I was going to
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year ago, maybe w Loonga.
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of all People, Dan Rather,
and he interviews rock musicians and he's great

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at it. He does it,
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one with Paul Stanley. We just
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of times when you see that series, at the end of it, you

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go, you can't believe, Like
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idea of Robit Plant changed completely after
that interview, you know. And he's

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like that with a lot of these
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questions like ro to say, not
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yeah, yes he does. He
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more meaningful questions. Right, yes, yes, get that cat out of

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the Get that cat off screen.
I'm going to pull the plug and double

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out. Get the Is that a
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out? But yeah, Paul Stemle, he tells the story. You're going

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to lose many, many fans because
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allergic. I think you're talking about
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So he tells a story about how
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of his ears was deformed. Okay, so as a kid growing up,

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like in elementary school and everything,
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bullied, beat up the works.
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what saved you? He said,
the Beatles? Because when the Beatles came

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out, I could grow my hair
over my ears. And he says,

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that just started a home in life
for me, you know. And look

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look how we wound up, right, you know, so interesting and an

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artist and his paintings self for like
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the guy you think it is.
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what we were doing. We're promoting
his art. That's always a nice ind

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for famous musicians. A lot of
musicians paint, a lot of them draw,

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and they have anxiety when they put
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their their moonlighting phase. They therefore, no one's going to show up,

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all right. So I get in
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local level, regional level, and
then a national level, and it gives

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them a chance to think, Okay, well if I talk to this guy,

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maybe more people show up. And
they never have to worry, right,

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you're right, A lot of rock
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was a really good honest run Woods, a really good honest I mean,

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even John Lennon was kind of like
an honest what did you think of his

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artwork? Run? I a matter
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a lot of people's who've I've promoted. He's a true painter, like you

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literally get up there and paint the
thing. A lot of other people do

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things in like a more of a
factory fashion. Sure, other people try

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to do things that are like more
abstract, because being abstract is an excuse

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to say it's, you know what
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mess. Yeah, yeah, I
threw a couple of cans of paint that

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the thing. Can't you see him? Yeah, so thrown upside down?

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Look what it is, it's the
same thing upside down. Did you buy

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one of his paying things around?
Certainly not. But I watched himself probably

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about a million dollars worth of art
and yeah, yeah, yeah, easy,

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yeah, yeah, you got to
see this guy. I mean he's

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really something else. I mean he
obviously the Kiss thing good or bad.

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You know, they never had a
hit and they were never played on the

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radio or anything. You know,
there's just kind of a touring band and

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also known for you know, their
outrageousness and stuff. But they really took

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it as a business. I mean, his partner there who who who lives

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like one block away, but they
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Geene Simmons. Yeah, yeah,
he's selling the Kiss coffins. And you

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know, he really went like to
the extreme. You know, Paul Stanley

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kind of took I know, he
educated himself, I guess, I don't

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know, I don't know, but
he's a smart guy and has trained the

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whole Kiss thing into you know,
something even like bigger than Kiss, if

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you can believe. Do you ever
see them live? Do you ever see

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them play around? Well? Yeah, man, many times in makeup and

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not in makeup. I can tell
you that the resentment between those two.

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Everybody thinks it's because they've been there
around forever and they make so many decisions

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together, and that's true, But
the main resentment is that Geene Simmons,

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if you guys will remember he was
in a couple of movies in the early

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eighties. One of them was with
Tom Selleck Runaway, Okay, run Away,

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a couple others. He wanted to
be a movie star, Wow.

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And he started to check out from
the band, and and Paul put together

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a couple of albums almost single handedly, and he still resents them for it.

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Well other way, it's like,
this is a big baby. You

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are now continuing the profit from this
big baby and that all that stuff,

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and I'm the one who kept it
on the tracks, you know. Yeah,

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yeah, Well, it's kind of
like Mick Jagger and Keith Riches because

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they were basically both co running stuff. They threw Brian Jones out of the

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band. They were co running it, and they get real big in the

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early seventies. Keith gets it to
get that cat out of there, get

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that get that look at that thing
cat. But you didn't even notice.

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It is different. It's not as
black and white as the other one.

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Don't even so anyway, And so
then Keith gets all addicted and Mick basically

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runs the band for ten years,
you know. And then when when Keith

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comes back, he wants you know, the equals sharing again and mix says,

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uh uh, you know you checked
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was the friction between them for a
long time. And now I think grudgingly

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it's kind of like, ah,
yeah, okay, because now it's like

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hugely big. Yeah, the pieces
of the pie are so big everybody's full.

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Yeah, yeah, exactly, good
way to put it. So listen,

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I want to start off. We're
just talking tonight about uh, you

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know, music and you know celebrities. You might have met her memorable concerts.

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And I'm going to throw it to
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you have to move your camera please. That's disturbing me. I can't talk,

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and look how not that way.
He is not going to accommodate you.

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So lowly, Larry, you,
I don't want to say, admitted

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to me today, but you revealed
me to that you were a big big

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Neil Diamond's hand, right. I
wouldn't say big big, but yeah,

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I like Neil Diamond always that That's
that's what your email said, big big.

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Yes. So okay, and so
you have a funny story. But

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you and Neil are friends now or
something? Sure? Yeah? No,

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My I have two daughters, one
on one one you were acquainted with who

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hates Neil Diamonds. The other is
and and and was a big fan.

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And when she was ten years old, we were living near Philadelphia and he

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was coming to town and she heard
about this on the radio and went nuts

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and said, you you got to
take me to Neil diamond please, which

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wasn't a hard sell for me.
But we went to the show, and

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the couple behind us the they uh, they assumed that I was a fan,

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and I dragged my daughter along so
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But I informed them and in fact
it was it was really her doing,

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and they thought that was was pretty
cool. I think he said precious in

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the email, but I did not
know. I know, I think in

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my in my whole life, I
have never said the word precious very much.

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The the the Yeah, Neil diam
interesting guy because he started the Brill

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Building with like Carol King and all
those people, Neil Sadaka people like that,

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and he was like write a song
of day type guy and who just

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became a performer. He's he's not
the greatest singer in the world, all

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the greatest kind of frontman, but
he's huge. There was a story about

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him the other day where I was
reading and his engineers producers book we have.

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They said, we want to have
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to promote this record. So he
says okay, and then he goes over

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there. He thinks he's gonna be
on an English TV show and from that

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it blows up to let's do a
concert outside of Castle, a live concert,

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you know, beam it back to
America. Blah blah okay, So

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they do that, They put that
together. It's on some kinds of state.

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Word gets around. They're expecting five
thousand people, and forty five thousand

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people showed up to go to it. And they had no idea that he

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was that popular in England because he
was over there promoting his record, you

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know. So very popular guy,
the Jewish Elvis. They call him really

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good songs, good songwriter. You
know, he's written songs for other people

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including the Monkeys. Yeah. Interesting
guy in quit medical school with like one

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semester to go before we get his
degree or whatever to go into the music

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biz. How about that was the
snare drumming that one? So yeah,

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he had an incredible stage presence and
I say had He's still around, but

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yeah, retired touring a few years. I could see that. Yeah,

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when I saw him, it was
in ninety six, so yeah, he

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was, you know, in the
middle aged, probably pushing sixty, and

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he had energy like you wouldn't believe, just just an amazing presence on that

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stage. I think he was busted
for a huge cocaine thing at some point

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in the nineties, as it turns
out, Lowry, so that might you

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know, uh, explain the energy. Who knows? You got to find

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that dark dark line. It's the
facts there man. So okay, all

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right, so did you uh did
you hang around afterwards and get his autograph

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or anything? Double l for you? My daughter a T shirt? Though?

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Really? Wow? Oh you huh? What was that about five bucks

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back then? Seven? So was
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to? You know what had to
be? I think she's ten ten,

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you know kids go to concerts.
Yeah, I had to be your first

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real concert. Let me just throw
this the lowest real quick. What was

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your first concert growing up? Not
where we were. I went to see

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the Buggles all but they were there, Yes, they were the lead for

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Yes, and I wasn't I didn't
know anything. About Yes, But at

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the time, the Buggles were big
and ironic and it wasn't very memorable.

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I didn't really enjoy it really,
Huh. You were probably the only girl

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there for one thing, you know. I have such vague memories of it.

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Yeah, not not an interesting tale. Little stay for Yes though,

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excuse me, they were this is
for for one year the Bugles were in

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Yes, Yeah, and she saw
that tool like they were the lead singers

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or something, right, didn't they
take over for the singer? Yeah,

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the singing and the keba player?
Yeah, anyway, Yeah, Trevor Horn

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took over for John Anderson's vocals.
You know, Rob, someday we should

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top off air about I did a
little bit of publicity for Johnny Anderson,

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as it turns out, and also
Rick Wakeman got to know my heroes in

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a way. You know. Yeah, that's that's very cool. I think

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of what they called it, what
the fans call Yes West, which is

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when oh yeah, Trevor Horn and
John Anderson got together. What did you

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think of those albums? You know, they know how to put the They

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they learned through Trevor Raven how to
put together a pop song, you know

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what I mean? So they gave
them good pop songs. What's his name,

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Clive Davison, whoever is running Atlantic
Records at the time, Urgent Ottoman

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or whatever that guy's name was.
They would they would go to Trevor Raven

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and they say, you got any
you know, pop records and he would

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write for other people too, and
they said, put two or three together

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and put yes together with you and
that's you know, how they did it.

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So John Nison just comes in and
sings all of them, and I

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mean they're interested and they're not terrible. Yeah, I like them. I

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mean they came out when I was
like twelve and fifteen, so of course

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I was gonna like them. That
was right in my wheelhouse. Yeah,

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yeah, yeah, you're of yes, Rob, did you realize that you

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liked them? I was just curious
years or well, it's the same story

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because of my age one. It's
the same thing every time. I always

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get the commercial stuff that everybody else
says, oh, this sucks, they

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used to be better. I like
that stuff because it's in my era.

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And then I work backwards, right, that's funny, the quote unquote good

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stuff. And I did that with
almost all the classic fans. Yeah,

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yeah, Genesis would be another band
that I could see people doing that.

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Yeah, that's right there, you're
a big Genesis fan, right, oh,

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very big. I like Gabriel Genesis
or well that's okay. I know

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we're I know we're max leading.
No you don't. How do you know

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that? I know? You mech
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I was in your journy. I
went to a concert by Steve Hackett,

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who played guitar for Genesis in the
early years, and so he was doing

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in Hackett, by the way,
just an unbelievable performer. I seen him

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many many times. He was doing
He's done a lot of solo stuff,

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but he was doing an all Genesis
show and it was all Peter Gabriel era

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Genesis, so nineteen seventy four and
back, and it was a great show.

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And so he finished, they finished
one of the songs, and as

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the applies applause died down, somebody
in the audience yelled out do invisible Touch,

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and of course laughter ensued. I
was hoping the guy wouldn't get pummeled

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and dragged out on a stretcher.
But it was alling good fun. But

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we weren't a really said well,
in Visible Fetch is even worse than Alcab

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I think. But she liked that
stuff. I like that as well.

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Yeah, no, And you know, and I know what Rob is talking

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about, the the the the bands
that used to be good. My wife,

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who is uh, who is younger
than I am, like, she

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will hear Owner of a Lonely Heart
on the radio by Yes, and it's

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a terrible song. I'll say,
you got to understand, Yes was once

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a good band and you ought to
listen to this. You got to listen

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to that. Shell said, no, no, this is this is a

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great song. This is just a
wonderful song. And she won't she won't

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hear any of my old, my
old man music. Okay, I actually,

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Larry, I disagree with you.
I think that that that that pop

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Yes, which was that era of
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I think for where are they going? You know, and Steve Howe

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wasn't around, and you know that's
turmoil, you know what. See you

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like that that Owner of a Lonely
Heart era of Yes. And then the

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combining of them the Union, Yes, the Union record eleven of them,

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Yes, but you know total plays
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stage. There's a lot of it
was amazing. Yeah. See, that's

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the deciding factor is if you saw
that lineup of the band slash bands live,

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if you saw them in concert,
and you saw, you know,

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despite what the you know, the
music, the current music, and they

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were unbelievable. They would always kick
ass. These days not so much,

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but they were telling. I've seen
them probably ten times easily and probably more,

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and they're just always good, just
really good, good, good good,

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you know, Yes, and all
their incarnations. Basically saw them at

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the Hampton Casino a couple of times, yes, and then one time just

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before Alan not Alan, why who
who died? The bass player Chris Squire,

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I never I saw them once with
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Didn't like it. Yeah, yeah, they run out of gas these

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days. Yeah, that was weird. And I saw them h Anderson,

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Bruford, Wakeman and how I actually
worked that show as a stage. Yeah,

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they were all right, they had
and I was installing Rick Wakeman's uh

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Hammond and his Leslie sound Leslie tone
cabinet on my hands and knees crawling around,

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Yes, and he walks by and
uh actually touched his garment and he

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signed my bed really yes, in
that order. Yeah, there was a

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scribble. It was like, this
is a scribble. I was talking to

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him that happened and I'm not worthy
moment, and then I'd like the the

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other concoction of what was it called
aar w something. It was that Trevor

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Rabin, John Anderson, and Rick
Wakeman and a couple of those Oh yeah,

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right, yeah around, yeah,
that's right. They couldn't use the

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name, yes, so they were
yeah right Anderson Wakeman and yeah, yeah,

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anyway, and they played the Orphium
Theater and they played the Wangs.

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I saw them two years in a
row. See, they can always get

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away with if they if they're good, and people just like to see them

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play live, you know. And
but hmm, it's the I'm trying to

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think of the an appropriate story to
tell that I know about them. Well,

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yeah, we were talking about Rick
Wakeman last night. Check them out

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these days. I mean, he
literally looks I'm going to repeat last night's

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joke, he looks like he's nine
months pregnant. His watt has broke and

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he got to get him to the
hospital. He is enormous, enormous,

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and he told this joke, and
I'll tell the show gover. I no,

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lonely l liked this one because in
England he's like a known for a

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comm and he had a funny talk
show on. Over here he's known as

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a musician, but over England it
is different. So he starts Cevy show

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off with a joke, and the
joke is, my friend called me up

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and he said, hey, listen, my wife is trying to kill me.

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He goes, no, come on, young crazy. He says,

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no, no, my wife is
trying to kill me. I know she's

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trying to kill me. He goes, how do you know? He says,

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she's trying to poison me. Take
it from me. She's trying to

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poison me. So Wagner says,
put her on the put her on the

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phone, let me talk to her. So after three hours he hands the

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phone back to the guy and he
goes, take the poison. Oh sorry,

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Lois, what's in the drink anyway? All right, we'll cut that

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on. So Lois, let's just
talk to you for a second. Okay,

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you have some interesting stories. Now, you're a big fan of Elvis

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Costello. I think that's true to
say, right, I was, yes,

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okay, you were. You don't
like him anymore? Well, you

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know what, I don't really follow
him anymore, so but I liked him

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when he came out and saw him
the number of times. So yeah,

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so the first time you saw him, the first time you met him,

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could you just tell us how that
happened. So I was at a concert

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and with somebody, and when that
person went into the bathroom and I was

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waiting outside, somebody came up to
me and said, you look lonely.

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And I was like, you know, creep, that's what I'm thinking.

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And so I just said no,
I never get lonely, and he goes,

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well, you know, how would
you like to lighten up your night?

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And again I'm just thinking, creep, go away, hurry up.

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Come out of the bathroom to my
friend and he said, well, actually

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you can go backstage. Here's a
backstage pass. And I said, yeah,

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right. I didn't believe him,
and he said no, no,

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really, and then he took the
badge and it was like a peel and

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stick and he put it on me. He said, you really can go

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backstage. So and then you know, he moved on to find other people.

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And then I still was like not
believing it, but the person I

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was with said, oh no,
so let's go. So yeah, that's

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how I went backstage. It was
an open you know, it's outside,

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so I didn't really meet him meet
him, but I was with you know,

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a number of other people, and
he was there and he just didn't

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really you know, it was anticlimactic, let's say, except that I saw

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him closer, you know, no
number two, but number two meeting go

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ahead. So after that I became
quite enamored with the music, and so

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I said, okay, I'm going
to get him flowers and I'm going to

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give them to him on the stage. Right, I'm gonna go up and

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give him flowers on the stage well
where he was playing. Gosh, I've

409
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:15,279
forgotten the name of the venue,
but it had the stage, then some

410
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,759
water and then all the seats,
so it was ye, it might have

411
00:30:19,799 --> 00:30:26,000
been. And and so there's no
way to get close to the stage during

412
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:26,839
the show, you know, I
thought, during the show, I'll just

413
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:33,599
go up pan him the flowers and
who knows. So so now it's over

414
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:34,960
and my friends are like, oh, you didn't get to do it.

415
00:30:36,079 --> 00:30:41,000
I'm like yeah. So we are
the last people in the stands and we're

416
00:30:41,039 --> 00:30:47,440
walking around and you know, this
guy sitting at a soundboard said, oh,

417
00:30:48,079 --> 00:30:48,839
what are those flowers for? And
I said, oh, you know,

418
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,359
I wanted to get them to help
us. He goes, oh,

419
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:56,440
well, and he gives me a
backstage pass and I go backstage and number

420
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:02,200
two, Yeah, why don't we
do this? There's five more episodes,

421
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,599
not even interesting. They're all like
that, and you get the idea.

422
00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:11,200
I never really we're going to take
a break now, comment that I love

423
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,920
Elvis Costello back then, what the
the miam is true? Watching the detectives

424
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,279
here, Yeah, it was fabulous, thought the Elvis Costello. The attractions

425
00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:25,400
were great, and they were some
of their cuts aren't any of my eighties

426
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:30,440
mixed cassettes. And they went through
a huge tupperware container of my mixtapes.

427
00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:34,119
W Rob, I was going to
photograph some of the setlists of the mixed

428
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,920
text and send it to it.
They get a load on you avoided that,

429
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,960
Robin. First of all, go
ahead, Rob. First of all,

430
00:31:42,039 --> 00:31:45,960
let me say really quick, Lois
you already gave one an idea.

431
00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:49,200
He's going to go to the Stones
concert this year with flower right and then

432
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:55,400
walk around looking lonely. Lonely the
first thing. The second thing is see

433
00:31:55,400 --> 00:32:00,079
this band aid right here. Just
yesterday I went uh to the dermatologists.

434
00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:02,720
He had to remove a little mole
there, and when he was doing it,

435
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:07,680
he had me laid back on the
the greeny thing there and he's talking

436
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,480
to me and it's a little awkward, and he says, so you're you're

437
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:14,039
a music journalist, right, and
I said yeah, and then he there's

438
00:32:14,079 --> 00:32:16,799
like ten seconds of silence and he
just goes, you like Elvis Costella.

439
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:22,079
Oh hopefully you said yeah. I
said, yes, I do it.

440
00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:23,880
I said, I've seen him a
lot in different arch incarnations. I've seen

441
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:29,559
him and Steve Naive just do a
piano and real and he goes Steve Naive

442
00:32:29,599 --> 00:32:32,119
and he stops working on me,
just like I was like, I got

443
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:39,039
to bring his conversation. Please do
a good tub on this holes. That's

444
00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:43,000
funny, that's funny. Yeah,
yeah, I mean, you know great.

445
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,119
I don't know. I don't think
he's great. I'm surprised he's still

446
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:49,279
around. But he's doing you know, the ice capades with bright back around

447
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,759
music. But see that's his music. What I liked about it was.

448
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:58,759
I think he was a wordsmith.
I don't know musically how great it was,

449
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:04,640
and I don't think I think he
knew how to write a song that

450
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:09,039
meant something and that they usually touched
me. It was a tremendous put down

451
00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:13,799
artist. He was like a dissert
even before. Yeah, rap rap.

452
00:33:13,799 --> 00:33:15,319
But he's got a line that says, you're acting like a duchess, but

453
00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:19,880
you're still a waitress. Great.
Yeah, see it's that kind of thing.

454
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:22,519
Yes, yes, exactly. But
I was looking for a link here

455
00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:27,599
on my laptop. He did a
in the UK. Here he hooked up

456
00:33:27,599 --> 00:33:32,039
with like a string quartet. Yeah, he did always do with them in

457
00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:39,759
the concert. So Elvis Costello is
like multifaceted and he's he's a Robert Plant.

458
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,119
Yeah, but he's he's different.
I mean, he goes, he

459
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,599
can like he could be a seed
of ballads. He could be caught a

460
00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:53,559
seed of Broadway tunes. This is
Elvis Costell and he'd be People would accept

461
00:33:53,599 --> 00:33:55,119
it, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah, that's him.

462
00:33:55,559 --> 00:34:00,400
I don't think Robert Plant could you
know, be singing Broadway tunes. But

463
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,079
but to talk about him now,
he has a huge second huge event with

464
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:09,079
what's the name Alison Krause who put
those two together, huge, huge record

465
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:15,159
and tour. Well, any idea
how they got together? Was that just

466
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:19,039
out of the blow of are those
agents trying to live together for a while?

467
00:34:19,079 --> 00:34:21,920
But yeah, yeah, I kind
of a meeting of the mind.

468
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,480
So I I'm not sure exactly what
problem together, but let me put that

469
00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:30,119
record up Racing Sands. Yeah,
good record, yep, yeah, And

470
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:34,480
I love Dallas and Krause anyway.
You see, I'm just Robert Planning.

471
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,719
He's still too mellow for me.
But then it took me a while to

472
00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:39,599
actually get used to the record,
and then a lot longer to even like

473
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:44,320
the record. It seems to me
that's that's the story that hey, one

474
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,840
night I called her up and let's
do this and that kind of stuff.

475
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,159
But I'm you know, I'm Steve
Naive, who I believe that. I

476
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,440
just get a feeling that record companies
come together, agents come together. Maybe

477
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:58,679
they were the same agent, the
same management, and they're throwing people together.

478
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:04,920
I know when it's at VH one
had a series on and it was

479
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,039
like putting odd bands together, and
some of them were actually pretty good.

480
00:35:08,119 --> 00:35:13,760
It was like you know, Sting
and Linen skin It and you know those

481
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,679
kinds, and some of them weren't
bad, some of them were stupid.

482
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:21,960
And I think in that era someone
said, hey, what an odd combination

483
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,679
this would be, and it works. So just one less made an odd

484
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:30,679
combination that they actually did in real
life or fantasy. Odd combination. No,

485
00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:36,400
no, it's like it's two very
completely different kinds of music. Yet

486
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:40,800
they were able to kind of fuse
them together. Between these two who got

487
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,159
to be two completely different kinds of
people. I know what the philosophy was

488
00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:50,800
between with the Crafts and the Plant
because of the Crafts and the Plant.

489
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:55,639
Thing was that Plant was making all
this low energy adult contemporary type music,

490
00:35:55,679 --> 00:35:59,719
but only as fans were buying the
album because they were Pavlov's dog. That's

491
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,599
what they did. They buy Robert
Plant albums and then the bitch about it.

492
00:36:01,599 --> 00:36:05,679
They're disappointed in them. Yeah yeah
yeah, And their goal was to

493
00:36:05,679 --> 00:36:08,519
cross them over with somebody else who's
really big on the adult contemporary set,

494
00:36:08,559 --> 00:36:12,679
so that way adult contemporary people buy
it and say, well, this is

495
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:15,960
fantastic, we appreciate what he's doing. Yeah yeah, see yeah, okay,

496
00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:20,119
that's good. I mean you know, it's a if you're in the

497
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,000
entertainment business's a great decision. Go
ahead, Lois Slows is going to cop

498
00:36:23,079 --> 00:36:25,880
off the I was cost Cells story
before we go to break Well. I

499
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:34,119
just he had an interview show for
a while, Yes, And really I

500
00:36:34,119 --> 00:36:37,599
think that's when you sort of appreciated
him because he would talk to musicians the

501
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:42,440
way you would like to talk to
musicians, right, And it was kind

502
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,079
of he was very knowledgeable about a
lot of different kinds of music. I

503
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:46,679
think you grew to appreciate him a
little more. And he played with them,

504
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,679
you know, he was actually pretty
good, you know, it was

505
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,159
it wasn't all just the kind of
musicians you would expect him to have.

506
00:36:52,559 --> 00:36:55,519
He knew a lot about them.
He asked them, as you say,

507
00:36:55,559 --> 00:36:59,760
it's like questions we'd ask them,
you know, instead of what's your favorite

508
00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:02,920
color? You know? And yeah, he's in He's an interesting guy.

509
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:07,320
His wife is also a blue singer, Diana Krall I think her name is.

510
00:37:09,039 --> 00:37:15,440
She has her own kind of you
know, big life on her CD.

511
00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:19,039
It's an amazing piano player. Yeah, yeah, she's good. So

512
00:37:19,159 --> 00:37:22,039
anyway, well listen, why don't
you peel me a grape? Is one

513
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:27,280
of my favorite songs. Really,
Aleen always asked me to peel her great.

514
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,639
Could you peel me a grape?
Wow? And what do you say?

515
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:36,960
Obstacle toes? French? French?
That's one of the lines, right

516
00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:42,960
fresh. It's a great that's a
great song. Row Diana, Diana crawl.

517
00:37:43,079 --> 00:37:46,760
Is that smoky voice? She's just
one y. I'm very good looking.

518
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaking of smoking, let's take a
break down and we'll be right back

519
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,639
after this. You're listening to Macloney's
Mill Tracks show here. Oops, you're

520
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:59,639
listening to Macaloney's musical X File show
here the distance under Radio Network. Please

521
00:38:00,159 --> 00:38:07,440
stay too. Hey Mac Maloney fans, this is Pistol Pete and I'm sitting

522
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:12,559
here with the one and only Mac
Maloney. Hi, Mac pin Now,

523
00:38:12,679 --> 00:38:15,960
Mac, you've got a new book
out called How to Dump a Body at

524
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:20,400
Sea and Not Get Caught that you
wrote with our pal, famous crime novelist

525
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,960
Mark Zappula. How did this whole
thing come about? Well, Mac and

526
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,519
I have this mutual friend that we
would go out having beers with every once

527
00:38:27,559 --> 00:38:30,559
in a while, and he had
the same twenty stories that he would tell

528
00:38:30,639 --> 00:38:31,960
us kind of over and over again, and at some point I said,

529
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,800
you know, we should write these
down, and we did and it turned

530
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,880
into a book. It's such a
crazy title. How'd you come up with

531
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,199
it? Well, kind of the
same thing. We're in about talking to

532
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,760
this friend of ours one night and
he just said, you don't how to

533
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,280
get rid of a body at sea? And I get taught, and of

534
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:50,079
course we didn't know, and so
he told us. And the secret is

535
00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:52,599
in the book. But I can
say that it involves a lot of chainling

536
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:57,199
fence and some crabs. Now,
Mac, you gave me an advanced copy

537
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,679
of the book, and like I
said before, it's one of the funniest

538
00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:02,559
things I ever read. It reminded
me of the Sopranos, if the Sopranos

539
00:39:02,559 --> 00:39:07,199
had a laugh track. Thanks Peter. But it also gives you instructions on

540
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,920
how to do some pretty shady stuff, stuff not exactly legal. Well,

541
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,599
yeah, the book is about the
true life adventures of a druvenile Delinklent grown

542
00:39:15,679 --> 00:39:19,320
up in Boston in the late nineteen
eighties, So you get a lot of

543
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,639
the inside stuff, like the best
way to steal a ca, best way

544
00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:24,760
to burn aca, how to make
fake IDs, things like that. But

545
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,760
in one chapter. You actually tell
people how to turn an old, broken

546
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,960
down Toyota into a brand new Rolls
Royce in five easy steps and it actually

547
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,840
works. Yeah. I know it
sounds crazy. I didn't believe it until

548
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,440
I saw the proof, but yes, it actually works. Now, one

549
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,559
last question. There's a lot of
laughs in the book, but also a

550
00:39:42,559 --> 00:39:47,159
lot of pretty crazy stuff legal and
illegal. Is it really all true?

551
00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:52,960
It's really all true, but on
the advice of a publisher, they've asked

552
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,119
us not the same thing beyond that
for legal reason. But yes, it

553
00:39:55,199 --> 00:40:00,679
is all true. Well thanks Mac. That's how to dump up at sea

554
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,719
and not get caught, The Al
Ferrari story by Mac and crime writer Mark

555
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:45,360
Zappula. Get it today on Amazon. Welcome back, everyone to Mac Maloney's

556
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:50,000
musical X File show here on the
Distance and the Radio Network. This is

557
00:40:50,039 --> 00:40:52,360
Ma malhonely. Wow, this is
a special show. We we're talking about

558
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,719
everything has to do with music,
musical celebrities. We've met, contents that

559
00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:00,119
we've gone to their memorable et cetera, et cetera. Let me introduced members

560
00:41:00,159 --> 00:41:04,519
of the place. Girls. You
know he's here, very famous one one

561
00:41:04,519 --> 00:41:07,800
over there in England. Hello everybody, Hello girls, ladies and gentlemen,

562
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:13,960
and welcome to the show, and
Mac thanks for having me on again.

563
00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:16,559
I just love it. I lived
for this, Okay, it's been every

564
00:41:16,599 --> 00:41:20,679
week for ten years, so yeah, we appreciate you showing it up.

565
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,199
It hasn't been that long, yeah, so must I do live for it.

566
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,800
Also with us, is I miss
being live in the studio tour?

567
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,519
That was a different show, that's
for sure, a different era. No,

568
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,480
this is this is how bad it's
got we're having. We're reduced to

569
00:41:35,519 --> 00:41:39,800
showing cats on our zoom screen.
Can't you just move? Lonely Larry?

570
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:44,199
This is lonely Larry. Who's here, you know, to afflict us and

571
00:41:44,199 --> 00:41:45,719
then leave early? As it turns
out, like al celebrities. Dull?

572
00:41:47,519 --> 00:41:51,639
Yeah, there he is. Yeah, he's a music officiano. Would you

573
00:41:51,679 --> 00:41:54,480
say that? Double l I'm talking
to you, not the cat. That's

574
00:41:54,559 --> 00:41:58,840
pretty big work for you. But
I'm a fan for sure. Yeah,

575
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,679
okay, all right, you wanted
to keep it short, you got it.

576
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:07,800
Also with us is Rob Ferro,
music journalist. Right, that's app

577
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,920
yep, okay, all right?
Right up there with Lester Bangs, Leicester

578
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:17,519
Bangs, Yeah, I think I
outlived them. You did you're here.

579
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:27,440
Wasn't a banjo playing? No?
Lester Bangs was amazingly Uh portrayed in that

580
00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:32,000
movie almost famous. That's a terrible
movie. Terrible movie. Terrible. That's

581
00:42:32,039 --> 00:42:36,199
a terrible movie. Terrible moment.
Sorry, we don't have time. That's

582
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,400
another another show, another musical show. Come back to that, all right?

583
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:45,119
Getting me introduced the flower among the
fawns. You were introducing run No,

584
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:49,559
he said, you did, all
right? I thought there was more

585
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,760
pay attention. I didn't want to. I thought there was more to say.

586
00:42:53,960 --> 00:43:00,679
That one speaks for me. There
you go, ros I about a

587
00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:05,280
mile long. He's interviewed everybody,
he's been on radio work for Major League

588
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:10,119
Broadcasting. One one is this in
the studio. Do you know what,

589
00:43:10,159 --> 00:43:14,159
John Henry, can you tell the
Red Sox see if they can get something

590
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,079
going this year? Yeah? Like
going out of town, like move sell

591
00:43:16,159 --> 00:43:21,440
the team? Uh in the studio
with us very real life of parents is

592
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,039
the very love of GST. Name
Lois Hi, everyone, it's good to

593
00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:28,960
be here. Thanks for joining us
tonight Live, and thank you for having

594
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:34,400
me in person. Okay, all
right, And I was gonna I was

595
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,199
off there thinking of something. Oh, I know when you were who is

596
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:42,559
your favorite group growing up? This
is we don't have to give dates or

597
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,239
years or anything like that, but
my favorite group, you know, you

598
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:50,559
were in love with some pop group
that was very h that used to wear

599
00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:57,440
funny pants and every Bay City Rollers
City Rollers Baby. Well, you know

600
00:43:57,599 --> 00:44:00,559
for one song, you know what
was it? What was the name of

601
00:44:00,599 --> 00:44:06,239
the song? S A T you
are d A y nighty night? I

602
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,920
was gonna say, what's that spell? Anyway, Okay, so listen,

603
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:15,559
let's skip overrom Alvisco Stello meeting three
four and five. How about six seven

604
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:20,239
and eight? No, no,
just go to Larry. Nobody cares about

605
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:25,239
that. Oh I disagree anyway,
Larry cat and all. Okay, you

606
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:29,239
you have to go. Your limos
waiting for you. You have a great

607
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,159
story, one of the greatest stories
there about Todd run Green, great honest

608
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:39,639
and who else Pd Gabriel go ahead. Spectacular artists by the way, both

609
00:44:39,639 --> 00:44:45,760
of them. Yeah, and so
so I had. I was privileged to

610
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:50,079
see Todd Rudgren in concert. I
guess it was around nineteen eighty and went

611
00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:53,280
with my sister and some friends and
my sister you met her, though you

612
00:44:53,440 --> 00:45:00,159
insist you haven't got a Little Carried
Away. And what I remember most about

613
00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:05,400
that show was when she was yaking
in the parking lot after the show.

614
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,639
But but it was a good concert. And a couple of years later,

615
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:15,159
I was sitting at the Civic Center
in Poughkeepsie waiting for Peter Gabriel and I

616
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:20,280
looked ahead about three rows and sitting
there is Todd Rundgren. Oh wow,

617
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,840
So I I didn't get his autographed. I didn't want to make a spectacle

618
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,440
of myself, but I thought,
you know, there's no mistaking Todd Runggren.

619
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:36,280
You know, nobody, nobody looks
like that, probably fortunately. But

620
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,280
but he was sitting there, just
just a fan among the fans, and

621
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,639
I thought that was that was pretty
cool to see a famous person in a

622
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,639
in a context like that. Yeah, that's really cool. Yeah, he's

623
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:52,800
an interesting guy. When he was
with oh what was it, what was

624
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:57,639
the name of it? He had
a band and he didn't Yeah, he's

625
00:45:57,679 --> 00:46:00,519
the first guy who played all the
instruments on a hits. You know,

626
00:46:00,599 --> 00:46:04,360
he laid everything on that. Although
it's me that's a big song back then.

627
00:46:06,159 --> 00:46:09,159
He's interesting and he and he does
a lot of he produces and he

628
00:46:09,199 --> 00:46:14,159
has produced a lot of other artists, uh, you know albums and if

629
00:46:14,159 --> 00:46:19,880
you hear remember Grand Funk Railroad.
Okay, I remember how like critics hated

630
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,639
them, hated them. Well,
he produced an album for them, and

631
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:29,159
he and he produced that song bad
Time to Be in Love, which is

632
00:46:29,159 --> 00:46:31,920
a great time. Yeah, it's
unbelievably really good song. And I think

633
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,800
American band and uh, but it
was basically, uh, the Grand Funk

634
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:43,119
Todd Runggren with Grand Funk Railroad is
the band, you know. And that's

635
00:46:43,199 --> 00:46:45,280
interesting. And I was going to
ask Rob, have you ever heard the

636
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:51,920
Es album called Fly from Here?
I have not, Okay, So Fly

637
00:46:52,039 --> 00:46:54,559
from Here is after they all broke
up, and this is man, this

638
00:46:54,599 --> 00:47:00,679
is gonna be twenty five years ago. Easy. Trevor Horn who was the

639
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:06,159
lead stinger of the Buggles and the
producer of a number of Yes albums and

640
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,840
the keyboard player whose name escapes me
right now, but they were the Buggles.

641
00:47:09,639 --> 00:47:15,639
They brought Alan White and Steve Howe
and Chris Squier, uh you know,

642
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:20,320
to the studio with that French Canadian
guy ben Wa David as the singer

643
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,800
and they recorded this song called Fly
from Here that they you know, came

644
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:30,199
up with when Lois saw them and
the you know Buggles Dune yes years years

645
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,679
years before and it's this sweet and
it's really good. And what it is

646
00:47:32,679 --> 00:47:37,880
is it sounds like the Buggers.
The Buggers themselves were really interesting being their

647
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,800
first album was excellent. Man,
I listened to that over and over and

648
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:46,800
again. And but they but he
Trevor, Trevor Horn uses them as his

649
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:52,639
own band, like it's kind of
strange, but you know, and well

650
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,760
yeah, yeah, so yeah,
fly from Here I I I. And

651
00:47:54,800 --> 00:48:00,760
then Trevor Horn hated it so much
he re recorded and re made go ahead.

652
00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:04,400
Everybody knows this, I guess.
But so you always have to note

653
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,360
that the Buggles were the first video
ever played on him TV, which is

654
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:12,239
kind of interesting. Yeah, video
killed the readers. I bet you when

655
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,360
it happened, they didn't think a
thing of it. But now it's a

656
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,639
major milestone. Yeah it is.
And that guy Trevor Hohen, who he's

657
00:48:19,639 --> 00:48:22,400
an interesting guy and he he time
of producing big hits. Man, he

658
00:48:22,519 --> 00:48:29,840
produced everyone Seal Frankie goes to Hollywood
and ABC. I mean he was in

659
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,840
with all those Rod Stewart you know, and he has his own kind of

660
00:48:34,679 --> 00:48:37,559
sound to it. You know,
really good, interesting, interesting, yea,

661
00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:43,119
could we stay real quick on the
Grand Funk Railroad thing. This is

662
00:48:43,199 --> 00:48:49,280
story night. Yeah. I went
to the Connecticut School of Broadcasting, but

663
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,159
to the branch that was in North
Palm Beach, Florida. I did that

664
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:57,039
in the late nineties, and my
instructor was somebody named Sonny Quinn who was

665
00:48:57,119 --> 00:49:00,320
like a really high ranking DJ in
the winnings out there in that market,

666
00:49:00,679 --> 00:49:07,239
Palm Beach market. And she was
married, uh to Don Brewer, drummer.

667
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:12,719
And so we would do night class
and uh say, like we were

668
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:16,239
wrapping up around nine o'clock. Very
often Don would just roll in and watch

669
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:20,559
the last fifteen minutes of class.
Oh yeah, cool. And it was

670
00:49:20,599 --> 00:49:23,039
really really cool. You know,
they have that big right up the beach

671
00:49:23,199 --> 00:49:29,559
hit the Big Way when they were
the big Effro And you know how she

672
00:49:29,679 --> 00:49:34,480
met him was was a frequent touring
act with them, was Michael Bolton back

673
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,440
when he played rock music. Oh
and she was his hairdresser. Oh wow,

674
00:49:38,519 --> 00:49:43,840
well she needed a new job.
So they're touring a Grand funking,

675
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,679
they say, and then away away
we go. But I thought that was

676
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:51,920
interesting. He's a really, really
cool dude. You know. The lead

677
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,920
singer his name was, was that
Mike Farmer, Mark Farner. You know

678
00:49:55,000 --> 00:50:00,400
his story, so I don't think
so they be kind of part of his

679
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:05,719
story. He did. He spent
her time with contemporary Christian music, right,

680
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,480
yes, ye. What he did
was he he saved his money and

681
00:50:09,519 --> 00:50:13,920
he just gets sick of the credits
because the critics never liked those guys,

682
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,760
you know. And though they started
still a lot of records, they were

683
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:20,559
on the radio and they you know
a lot of people liked their album.

684
00:50:20,679 --> 00:50:25,159
So he quit the biz and he
was probably no. Maybe late twenties,

685
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:30,800
and he moved incognito to this farm
up in you know, Idaho, some

686
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,880
freaking place right out in the middle
of nowhere. This was his intent,

687
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:37,920
and this is blucky. He as
lowest. And he used to watch this

688
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:42,199
girl walk back and forth the school
every day, you know, and she

689
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,119
said when school well, let's say
high school school. Yeah, let's say

690
00:50:45,199 --> 00:50:52,159
high school. And he, you
know, he falls for her and eventually

691
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:58,239
marries her. You know, she's
still very young, and she convinces him

692
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,639
or somehow to get back out on
the road. And she's the one who

693
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,519
kind of turned them onto the Christian
music. So he was doing solo to

694
00:51:04,679 --> 00:51:09,239
us where he would take Grand Funk
songs and this is challenging itself acousta you

695
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:15,400
know, don't an acoustic guitar and
add Christian lyrics to the original lyrics.

696
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:19,599
Yeah wow, I didn't know that. Yeah yeah, well you know,

697
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,599
I mean, you know, to
be so sick of it, to be

698
00:51:21,679 --> 00:51:27,039
so nuts that you you know,
you don't wind up Ane Railroad sold out

699
00:51:27,159 --> 00:51:31,079
Chase Stadium faster than the Beatles.
I bet yeah, I forgot what your

700
00:51:31,119 --> 00:51:34,880
nineteen seventy some odd and the biggest
deal they made. They took out a

701
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,480
full page ad in the in the
paper and said thanks for selling out Chas

702
00:51:37,519 --> 00:51:39,880
Stadium faster than the Beatles. Now, I think they both sold out in

703
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:45,400
the day. I just need sure
Grand Funk sold out quicker. Well,

704
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,199
you know that was my ex girlfriend
to see Grand Funk Railroad when their first

705
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,119
album came out with a great song
called Tea and you see on it.

706
00:51:52,840 --> 00:52:01,039
And that's why y's direct what it
is At Boston College Stadium right the stadium

707
00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:06,440
up there, we have comaf and
that's BC not be you at BC.

708
00:52:06,639 --> 00:52:08,639
BC is all the way to the
end of klim app Yeah, BC,

709
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:14,719
and it's with my ex girlfriend.
She still talks about it to this day.

710
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:16,599
She's been married to my best friend
for longer than I've been married.

711
00:52:16,639 --> 00:52:20,039
How do you know she talks about
it to this day? Do you talk

712
00:52:20,079 --> 00:52:22,079
to her about it? Every time
I go to a high school reunion,

713
00:52:22,159 --> 00:52:25,360
she's there. She wants to sit
beside me and talk about that years time

714
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:30,199
we had dating about a year and
a half. Oh wow, my friend

715
00:52:30,199 --> 00:52:36,239
says, why do we just take
a turn here and over again? Listen?

716
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:37,239
No, hold on, hold on, we haven't next bread here.

717
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,440
This is good. I've heard this
story before, so let me tell it

718
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,719
to you. Lois so one one
used to go How long did you go

719
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:50,119
out with the X one? How
many years with the Portuguese girl named Barbara

720
00:52:50,519 --> 00:52:53,559
Weller Wizard? Okay, okay,
okay, So that's what we're talking about,

721
00:52:53,559 --> 00:52:57,039
correct me, about less than two
years? Okay? And then you

722
00:52:57,079 --> 00:53:00,320
introduced her to your best friend,
right right? Okay, we're kind of

723
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:05,360
hitting it off and parted ways,
okay, And you made the introduction maybe

724
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,239
at the pillow factory by the way, that's a pillow factory where he once

725
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,559
yeah, he once got injured so
bad as the secretary and I got cut,

726
00:53:10,599 --> 00:53:15,800
My finger got cut. She's the
one. Yeah, didn't you ask

727
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:17,840
her out? And that cuts pillow
ticking? And I passed out and right

728
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,719
there in the office with her a
call. Wow, But he asked her

729
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,920
out beforehand. Then he passed And
didn't you asked right as they put you

730
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,480
in the ambulance or something? Wasn't
it. I didn't have to go to

731
00:53:27,519 --> 00:53:30,239
the air. My father took me
to Summrville Hospital. Okay, okay,

732
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:35,280
good for you. Wow wow.
So anyway, so anyway, so I

733
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,119
said, look, no, no
hard feelings, but I do want to

734
00:53:37,159 --> 00:53:40,519
introduce you to my best friend who
was next door to me in chumps for

735
00:53:40,599 --> 00:53:45,760
it, okay, And how about
we go to a Portuguese picnic together.

736
00:53:45,199 --> 00:53:49,480
I'll bring my best friend and you
know, go ahead, because we used

737
00:53:49,519 --> 00:53:52,400
to do Portuguese picnics and maybe I
went to a couple of them with her,

738
00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:58,079
great fun and they met I kind
of like just you know, I

739
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,599
drifted off by myself, just let
them. Yes, shoot the ball.

740
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,920
It was just a weird meat doing
this in the first place. Yes,

741
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:14,719
they got married a couple of years
later, and they've got like four kids.

742
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,679
And know about ten grandkids. They
send me a different Christmas card with

743
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:23,760
their extended family. Okay, and
they've been married about two years more than

744
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,199
Ileen and be married. So so
let me ask, let's get to the

745
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:32,079
kernel here. So you have seen
here, how often do you see her?

746
00:54:32,679 --> 00:54:36,679
I've only seen her on high school
reunions. I haven't seen her.

747
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:37,920
I haven't seen her for a while. How mean how many years you've been

748
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:42,360
out of high school? One hundred? How many? How many reunions?

749
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:46,840
Yeah, class of sixty six,
and I'd go to a reunion every five

750
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,000
years, oh, every five years. Oh, okay, okay, so

751
00:54:50,519 --> 00:54:52,119
when I was in the Navy and
I missed another one somewhere along the line

752
00:54:52,199 --> 00:54:54,599
five years. Holy cow. The
kids I went to high school with,

753
00:54:54,639 --> 00:55:02,559
they're in Walpole stay prison for five
five to ten. But listen when visiting

754
00:55:02,599 --> 00:55:07,719
hours, right yeah, right,
yes, yeah yeah yeah. Uh So

755
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,840
when she she when you see her
and she makes a point to sit beside

756
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:15,800
you and talk to you about the
good days when YouTube were dating, well

757
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:19,960
yeah, she she brings it up, you know, during the course of

758
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,639
the evening. Okay, well,
and remember when we did this, you

759
00:55:22,679 --> 00:55:25,960
know, Eddie, her husband is
filling the left and I'm to her right.

760
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:30,800
Eleen didn't choose to go to these
reuniss over there. I don't know

761
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:35,159
why. My friends said, yeah, but you couldn't get her to come

762
00:55:35,199 --> 00:55:37,880
with me. Okay, so let
me let me stop you right there,

763
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,599
because we had an expert, Yeah, an expert me a female? Really?

764
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:45,079
Yeah? What do you think of
this and that dynamic? What do

765
00:55:45,119 --> 00:55:52,920
you think of that dynamic there?
I think that she's just reminiscing, right.

766
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:59,280
I don't think it means more than
that, do you? I got

767
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,800
a kick out of it. We
talk about the same. Yeah. I

768
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,280
think it's very odd. Yeah,
but I mean, if it meant more

769
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,199
than that, she'd like, what, stay in touch with him over Facebook?

770
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:12,320
She does? Right, you're in
touch with her all the time Facebook.

771
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,920
We'd say it once or twice.
See it's not all the time.

772
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:22,000
And she's not asking like let's meet
up? Right, you just have a

773
00:56:22,159 --> 00:56:24,360
how do you know? You don't
know that? Well, maybe he wants

774
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,400
to keep that secret? Okay,
all right, Well, if he wants

775
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,039
keeps secret, he shouldn't talk about
it on the show you asked there?

776
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:36,800
All right, nothing like that,
Nothing like that is going on. Okay,

777
00:56:37,039 --> 00:56:40,880
brother, she still looks really good. So here we go. She

778
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:46,000
still looks still looks good. I'm
more in contact with her husband. Eddie

779
00:56:46,039 --> 00:56:52,440
didn't really her. But that's weird
itself. So that's another show. Well,

780
00:56:52,519 --> 00:56:54,599
they were friends. He always keeps
telling me, he owes me you

781
00:56:54,679 --> 00:56:59,760
really Yeah huh he hasn't paid up
yet. Wow? Yeah right he does

782
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,519
so, big guy. Well it's
been a while. I think he needs

783
00:57:01,559 --> 00:57:06,119
to do that. There's a punch
line there, but I'm not going to

784
00:57:06,159 --> 00:57:09,320
ruin the moment. Wow. Okay, that's a that's a real romantic story.

785
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,960
Then well then thank you. Let's
get let's get back to the music.

786
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:22,239
Yes, everyone that it was connected
too. Let's see. I had

787
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:27,400
an experience at a went to go
see just Rotel. Uh this isn't you

788
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:29,760
know. I don't want to date
myself. But when they first came out,

789
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:31,519
and not really when they first came
out, but they were they were

790
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:36,719
a pretty big band. They're playing
the Music Hall in Boston, which is

791
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,639
a really nice place. It was
a really nice place to see a band.

792
00:57:38,719 --> 00:57:43,920
So we go and we get nice
seats are in the balcony and we're

793
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:52,440
really big hotel fans, and the
guy comes out and he announces that who's

794
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:57,800
that guy t Rex? T Rex
was supposed to open but t Rex can't

795
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,800
get out of the UK for some
reason. Okay, so he says,

796
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,559
so we're gonna we have this band
here. This is the first time they've

797
00:58:06,119 --> 00:58:09,119
played an American it's Nott the Hoople
Okay, somewhat the hoopel for those don't

798
00:58:09,119 --> 00:58:13,880
know. It's like a David Bowie
progeny band or something. He put them

799
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,320
together. Ian Hunter, you know, has this kind of voice like him.

800
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:20,519
Mick Ronson was in it, who
you know, went on to play

801
00:58:20,519 --> 00:58:22,679
with David Bowie and so on.
And they was good. They were all

802
00:58:22,719 --> 00:58:23,800
glammed up. They're all glambed up. They're in like, you know,

803
00:58:24,079 --> 00:58:28,920
high heeled boots that are like a
foot tall and stuff. And it was

804
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:34,639
crazy but really really good. So
they play and and they're so good that

805
00:58:34,719 --> 00:58:37,920
the crowd brings about for an encore
and then boom boom four times. They

806
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:42,000
come out for an encore four times, you know, and now everyone's doing

807
00:58:42,039 --> 00:58:45,000
there's kind of a goof right,
so they leave and people rush the stage

808
00:58:45,559 --> 00:58:49,280
and they're not going to leave until
they come out and play again. Right,

809
00:58:49,639 --> 00:58:52,199
So actually this happened in the third
time. They come out the fourth

810
00:58:52,239 --> 00:58:54,320
time and Ian Hunt says, we
don't know any more songs. This is

811
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:58,599
it. We've played them all.
So they played Hot Broke, Hotbreak,

812
00:58:58,599 --> 00:59:04,480
Hotel, which it was crazy,
it was insane. So anyway, they

813
00:59:04,519 --> 00:59:07,360
won't leave. They won't leave the
front of the stage. And at one

814
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:12,360
point they reach up and they pulled
Ian Hunter's five feast ogen off the stage.

815
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,440
And now it's in the crowd,
right, so we're going come on.

816
00:59:15,719 --> 00:59:17,760
And in the middle of all this, Ian Anderson comes out on mike.

817
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:22,440
It's not saying you know, when
people you don't get the fact.

818
00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:25,039
You see, we're not going to
play one note until you know this,

819
00:59:25,239 --> 00:59:30,239
and no one's listening to them.
Finally the cops come, they get the

820
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:31,960
organ back, they restore order,
and Won goes back in the seats.

821
00:59:32,719 --> 00:59:36,480
It takes an hour easily. You
know, we're there, we're storing.

822
00:59:36,679 --> 00:59:40,159
We just want to let's hear the
music, right, So Jeto Tell comes

823
00:59:40,159 --> 00:59:43,519
out. They don't say a word, and they play Akalon. You guys

824
00:59:43,519 --> 00:59:46,079
know this story because I wrote it
to. They play achalone from beginning to

825
00:59:46,199 --> 00:59:51,880
end, without stopping, note perfect, just like the album. It was

826
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,840
amazing, and the Indian says,
after Zori goes and now for our second

827
00:59:54,920 --> 01:00:00,880
number, it was great, love
that they were great. They were thick

828
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:02,440
as the brick. Yeah, and
then yeah, I think, yeah,

829
01:00:02,519 --> 01:00:07,920
yeah, right, exactly yeah,
and then Passion play right but once again

830
01:00:07,239 --> 01:00:09,280
great musicians. I have it,
but I didn't like it, No,

831
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:13,480
I didn't. I started live It's
terrible because the Brick was also boring.

832
01:00:13,519 --> 01:00:17,039
But achalong, What an album?
What an album? Amazing? Yeah,

833
01:00:17,039 --> 01:00:21,000
I was, Yeah, but I
think that first two are pretty good.

834
01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:22,960
Stand Up and benefit oh yeah,
yeah yeah. Our wedding song or not

835
01:00:23,039 --> 01:00:25,719
that I'm saying, lowis and I
am married about our wedding song. I

836
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:30,000
know someone's wedding song that is from
Stand Up right down Lowis. You know

837
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:35,000
them too, yep, all right. A couple of ballads on that album.

838
01:00:35,559 --> 01:00:38,239
I can picture the one that might
have been a good wedding summer Reasons

839
01:00:38,239 --> 01:00:43,280
for Waiting is a song. Yeeah
yeah, yeah, really nice song.

840
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:47,119
Well it it was Apropos Apropos,
right, And I had a practice like

841
01:00:47,239 --> 01:00:52,000
nine well, I don't want to
say, we're gonna say a year dancing,

842
01:00:52,599 --> 01:00:54,599
you know, trying to get some
kind of dancing thing now and it

843
01:00:54,719 --> 01:00:59,159
still didn't work. Yes, it
did. It was beautiful almost. Don't

844
01:00:59,239 --> 01:01:06,960
tarnish them anyway. It was a
Grammy Award winning It wasn't nice. It

845
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:12,199
wasn't nice one you would dip in
me, but the crowd loved it.

846
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,280
So anyway. So and the other
story that I wrote to you guys today

847
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:17,559
and get them out of the way, is that a short one is that

848
01:01:17,599 --> 01:01:21,599
I was once backstage at a Yes
concert, And that's a whole other story

849
01:01:21,599 --> 01:01:25,800
itself. But Alan White, who
played for Yes and now departed, used

850
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:30,320
to play for the Plastic Omo band
and he's on a lot of John Lennon

851
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:35,400
albums. John Lennon just like the
way he played drums, so uh.

852
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,519
And then he went on to be
the drummer for Yes, which is a

853
01:01:37,639 --> 01:01:44,840
very very huge leap, you know, George Harrison, and he was a

854
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:50,000
session guy, but he learned to
be like an arena a drummer, you

855
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,679
know what I mean, someone to
play to big, big houses, you

856
01:01:52,679 --> 01:01:55,639
know, and and that means like
power, you know. So anyway,

857
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,800
so I see him at backstage and
was kind of one around. I see

858
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,559
him well, introduced myself at the
time as Patrick morass Pia guy. So

859
01:02:02,599 --> 01:02:06,960
I had a way. I had
a way to say something to these guys,

860
01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:08,760
right, and they always going yeah
tell Patrick. We said hi,

861
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:13,239
Yeah, okay, And I said, listen, I know you play with

862
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,800
John Lennon. Could you describe John
Lennon in one word? And he said,

863
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,280
will you give me two words?
And I said yeah. He said,

864
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:22,239
my hero. That's a moment,
you know what I mean, that's

865
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:27,000
that's and that was it, you
know, but yeah, what a nice

866
01:02:27,039 --> 01:02:30,519
thing to say. And you know, he was the guy who was there.

867
01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:32,440
You know what I mean, which
is that plastic on a band was

868
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:37,639
a good combination of musicians. Yes, to bid, they couldn't play It's

869
01:02:37,639 --> 01:02:42,360
a clouds for woman. They yeah, they could play, but you know

870
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:46,440
they played rock and roll stuff.
Yeah, but they practiced on the way

871
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:50,840
over from England to Toronto to play
at the You know, I have that

872
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:54,599
Toronto Live Really nineteen sixty nine.
Do you have Yoko Screaming Live Peace nineteen

873
01:02:54,639 --> 01:02:58,800
sixty nine with side to being all
Yoko? Yeah? Huh, not good?

874
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:05,880
Not good? You didn't like that? Didn't like that? Yeah?

875
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:09,119
Okay. The thing about her is, and you know, I guess there's

876
01:03:09,159 --> 01:03:13,119
not many things that you can say
good about her other than that she's the

877
01:03:13,159 --> 01:03:15,719
one who grew his fortune in a
big, big way after the Beatles broke

878
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:20,639
up. She's from this financial company
in Japan, and we're reading about them

879
01:03:20,679 --> 01:03:23,599
right now. Family a family?
Where a company? When? Yeah?

880
01:03:23,639 --> 01:03:30,199
Right? When when she brought him
home in nineteen sixty six maybe sixty seven

881
01:03:30,519 --> 01:03:34,519
to meet her a family, to
meet her mother and father, they didn't

882
01:03:34,559 --> 01:03:39,000
know who the Beatles were. Okay, that's how upper strata these people are

883
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:43,480
saying, you know, who's this
freaking musician bum? Well, you know,

884
01:03:44,719 --> 01:03:45,960
he's the most famous group in the
world. We don't care. I

885
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:50,400
mean, but when they get married
and stuff, and he was the house

886
01:03:50,519 --> 01:03:53,559
husband, she took you know what
was like fifty million dollars you know he

887
01:03:53,639 --> 01:03:58,320
had, and turned it into four
hundred million dollars. And she did it

888
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,519
by buying dairy fire an upstate in
the ark if you can believe it.

889
01:04:01,599 --> 01:04:08,519
So yeah, yeah, so she
did that and well also by possibly keeping

890
01:04:08,559 --> 01:04:12,880
him alive that helped. Yeah,
yeah, you know, with their behavior

891
01:04:13,039 --> 01:04:15,679
and towards him. I mean she
broke up with them, yep, set

892
01:04:15,719 --> 01:04:18,360
him up. Talking about setting up
with your yeah right, Well, one

893
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:25,000
one, did Yoko gives John Lennon
a girlfriend, May Pang and then go

894
01:04:25,039 --> 01:04:28,880
out and live in Los Angeles for
a year. May's around. She's a

895
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,639
really sweet person. Yeah. I've
seen her at two different events for two

896
01:04:31,679 --> 01:04:35,280
different things, and yeah, you
know, it's like, you can't it's

897
01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:40,639
weird, like say she wrote songs
with him or something, or say she

898
01:04:40,719 --> 01:04:43,079
was a famous athlete or something.
You could actually say, I'm going to

899
01:04:43,119 --> 01:04:45,199
go in. I'm going to ask
her about that thing. She's probably been

900
01:04:45,199 --> 01:04:48,760
asked about a million times. But
when you're somebody's girlfriend, what do you?

901
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:53,519
How do you? How do you
start? So I don't? Okay,

902
01:04:53,559 --> 01:04:55,760
good, Yeah, that's how you
start, don't. Yeah? Yeah,

903
01:04:55,840 --> 01:05:00,119
huh was that situation going on during
the last weekend with that? Yeah,

904
01:05:00,719 --> 01:05:03,760
that is the last weekend she was
in the she was part of the

905
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:08,599
last weekend or whatever last Yeah.
Wow, Wow, the last weekend of

906
01:05:08,719 --> 01:05:13,360
something like two years or so or
something. Nielsen, right, yes,

907
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:15,920
er Nielson. I think I told
you, Rob I was. I was

908
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:20,119
listening to that Nielsen Schmielsen album and
I'm going, wow, every every song

909
01:05:20,159 --> 01:05:25,159
and this is great. That's right. I met the comment on that great

910
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,960
musicianship on it. I used to
own it, and then I haven't heard

911
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,760
it in forever. So I think
I'll write another note to myself right now,

912
01:05:30,239 --> 01:05:33,960
walking to the fire soon, walking
to the fire. Boom boom boom

913
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:41,920
boom boom boom boom boom boom boom. Great songwriter, excellent, seriously,

914
01:05:42,159 --> 01:05:45,119
and it got a great sound too. The record sound great. You know.

915
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:47,239
Yeah, I'm in the coconut.
I listened that all day long.

916
01:05:48,719 --> 01:05:53,599
I'm good at do you. I'm
gonna throw a name out to your rob

917
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:58,920
running Yeah, yeah, sixty three
sixty three, Okay, thank you,

918
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:05,400
loos Uh Meryll Fankhauser, Merrill Fankhauser, Merrill fank He gets what times Merrill

919
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:15,039
Fankhauser. No, no, so
he is he's he What is that,

920
01:06:15,079 --> 01:06:17,480
Meryl? No No, I was
said, But he's going. Once you

921
01:06:17,519 --> 01:06:23,280
tell him like the the riff,
he'll know him. Okay. He wrote,

922
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:28,679
that's a lot of pressure. If
I know it, you'll know it.

923
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,719
He wrote, wipe out. He
wrote, wipe out. There you

924
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:36,559
go right and right. And then
he went on to have this career which

925
01:06:36,679 --> 01:06:41,079
was I'd never heard of him either. And then when I was working for

926
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:45,280
from Voice Print Records and That's how
I met Patrick Mraz. He was also

927
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:49,280
one of the honest And it turns
out that he said he and Dick Dale

928
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:55,440
and a few of these guys really
started surf music, moved to Hawaii,

929
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:59,719
you know, new Jimmy Hendrix,
smoke Dope with John Lennon and so on

930
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,719
and so for. But what he
used to do is before Harry Nielsen get

931
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:09,840
famous, they worked in the la
version of the Brill Building and they're in

932
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:13,519
the same office and they would write
two songs, have Lunch to more when

933
01:07:13,639 --> 01:07:15,559
come back, you know, and
then Harry Nilssen, you know, made

934
01:07:15,559 --> 01:07:24,480
it big. I mean really amazing. It's like it's like the Motown situation

935
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:29,480
and so wonderful if anybody gets to
Detroit. I mean that Motown Museum is

936
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:34,960
my favorite museum anywhere. And they
literally used to just make these amazing hits

937
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:39,840
that we all know. Yes,
in the garage, it was open twenty

938
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:43,039
four hours a day, and they
said sometimes like Stevie Wonder would go in

939
01:07:43,039 --> 01:07:45,679
at four in the morning with his
handler or whatever because he he wanted to

940
01:07:45,719 --> 01:07:48,480
just play, and Smokey Robinson would
be there and smoke You would say,

941
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:53,280
Hey, can you just hit this
cow Bell and he would and Stevie wonders

942
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:56,679
on like dozens of songs that nobody
knows about. Yeah, yeah, yes,

943
01:07:57,119 --> 01:08:00,119
there's a good movie I'll called.
It just blows my mind that they

944
01:08:00,159 --> 01:08:04,480
could just rattle off. But you
know why, Installer or some of these

945
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:09,239
other people, you know why because
they didn't think about it. They didn't

946
01:08:09,239 --> 01:08:11,599
think about it. I mean they
were thinking hits and everything of the gun

947
01:08:11,679 --> 01:08:15,800
to produce them. Yeah, all
the time. And literally Barry Gordy was

948
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,640
saying, I want some stuff here. I'm gonna I'm gonna lock your Yeah,

949
01:08:19,239 --> 01:08:23,920
and Andrew, I'm going to lock
you in the bathroom. To come

950
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:30,199
up with. The great bass player
from uh Motime Records for most of them

951
01:08:30,239 --> 01:08:35,079
is this guy named James jameson Okay, and and he had his demons,

952
01:08:35,079 --> 01:08:39,479
I say, but he is in
all of those huge, huge hits.

953
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:42,359
And he used to come in from
lunch after lunch and he'd have to he

954
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,920
played all those songs laying down,
laying down on the floor, and he

955
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:49,079
used to play with his thumb,
which is kind of just you know,

956
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:56,880
nothing else. And he would say, I can hear like a rhythm or

957
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:00,560
a bass pot and someone walking down
the hallway, you know, and just

958
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:05,079
the way a secretary a high heel
walks, and he gave in this interview

959
01:09:05,119 --> 01:09:10,239
and he and he went boom boom
boom boom boom boom boom. That's what

960
01:09:10,359 --> 01:09:13,720
he heard. And now it's in
like maybe the greatest song ever, you

961
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:20,479
know. And there's a movie called
Standing in the What is it? Yeah,

962
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:25,880
yeah, great movie. G whiz, really good movie. Unbelievably talented

963
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:29,960
people went into that place. Ohh
and they're still around a lot of them,

964
01:09:30,079 --> 01:09:32,840
you know how their music is anyway, it was like an assembly line.

965
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:35,640
The other thing is that all those
people are from such a small condensed

966
01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:41,159
area around the actual building itself.
Diana Ross and Smoky Robinson went to school

967
01:09:41,199 --> 01:09:44,560
together, like two blocks down the
roads, walk up the road. Can

968
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,279
you imagine that if you see a
map of the stars, it's not where

969
01:09:46,279 --> 01:09:49,359
they live, it's where they were
born, where they grew up. Yeah,

970
01:09:49,399 --> 01:09:54,119
yeah, sure. It's almost like
a miracle. It's almost like God

971
01:09:54,159 --> 01:09:59,800
did this, he said, let
there be music and these pockets of unbelievable

972
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:06,279
cre activity. Yes, musically and
lyrically so with the right artist, amazing

973
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:11,199
portray it, and most of it
pre civil rights too, So it's like

974
01:10:11,239 --> 01:10:14,199
they were really like it was us
against them, even though they were doing

975
01:10:14,279 --> 01:10:16,000
it for everybody. It was a
spirit right love, But it was also

976
01:10:16,039 --> 01:10:18,159
like, this is going to be
our thing, right, That's how we

977
01:10:18,199 --> 01:10:21,159
get out of here, you know. That was going to be a fighter,

978
01:10:23,399 --> 01:10:25,319
you know. And I'll tell you
another story, not to get too

979
01:10:25,359 --> 01:10:28,600
political, but in the nineteen eighties, okay, and Lois has heard this

980
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:34,680
story before, when Ronnie Reagan was
the president. Nancy Ragan convinced him of

981
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:41,039
two things. One of them was
to close all the federal mental institutions and

982
01:10:41,119 --> 01:10:45,159
just let the people out, and
it proved to be not a really good

983
01:10:45,199 --> 01:10:54,000
idea. And also to withdraw a
lot of arts money from inner city schools

984
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:59,000
and especially in New York City or
whatever. Right, So, all of

985
01:10:59,039 --> 01:11:01,640
a sudden, these kids, a
tremendous amount of talent has come out of

986
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:08,039
holem let's put it that way,
okay, and in kind of instrumentalists and

987
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:12,600
singers and songwriters and so on.
So in a weird way, they're trying

988
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,199
to stop that, whether they knew
it or not. So what happened was

989
01:11:15,239 --> 01:11:18,079
so these kids now don't have access
to saxophones, and drums and stuff that

990
01:11:18,159 --> 01:11:25,039
costs money. All they have left
turntables, okay, and they turn that

991
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:29,640
into hip hop music. Okay,
whether you like it, I hate it.

992
01:11:30,159 --> 01:11:33,039
That's how it started. And that's
really using your brain. That's using

993
01:11:33,319 --> 01:11:38,439
what little you have and suddenly boom
it's huge, right, so good or

994
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:43,239
bad? And that's how it started. Ingenuity, Yeah, ingenuity, you

995
01:11:43,279 --> 01:11:45,600
ain't kidding. Yeah, it's like
the McGuire approach to it in a way,

996
01:11:45,640 --> 01:11:50,760
you know. So wow, wiim
Lois. Do you have any other

997
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:56,359
storytime at the super Bowl? Yeah? Right, yeah, yeah, Lowis.

998
01:11:56,359 --> 01:12:00,920
There's another venue that I always found
interesting is the super Bowl and what

999
01:12:01,079 --> 01:12:06,840
the target audience is for the music, no idea. It's it's crazy now

1000
01:12:09,039 --> 01:12:13,399
because it used to be you knew
what the target audience was only supposed to

1001
01:12:13,399 --> 01:12:15,920
be the people who could afford to
go to the super Bowl. It would

1002
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:19,800
be the target, right Macttney plays
there, Prince Yeah, yeap to what?

1003
01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:24,319
But yeah, it did change.
It did change though. It changed

1004
01:12:24,319 --> 01:12:27,119
when they stopped paying the people to
pay to play there. And I think

1005
01:12:27,159 --> 01:12:30,159
Coldplay was the first ones who did
it for nothing and it's just about ruined

1006
01:12:30,159 --> 01:12:35,159
their career. And then since then, and then then the thing with the

1007
01:12:35,239 --> 01:12:40,039
Janet Jackson thing was weird too,
and you know, that had to be

1008
01:12:40,159 --> 01:12:44,840
staged, and then it had to
be staged. And almost like you're right

1009
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,000
about the money though, that's ever
since they went to not paying them.

1010
01:12:47,279 --> 01:12:50,159
It has to be somebody that's on
tour. So right away you're not picking

1011
01:12:50,239 --> 01:12:54,399
from the world's talent. You're picking
from this town. Whoever's going to be

1012
01:12:54,399 --> 01:12:58,119
on the road in the next available
yeah, yeah, availability, right,

1013
01:12:58,159 --> 01:13:01,840
And so that really decreases the candidates
yeah yeah, yeah, And but once

1014
01:13:02,119 --> 01:13:05,199
but one brings out a good point. Who are they aiming for? First

1015
01:13:05,239 --> 01:13:11,039
of all, every halftime show that
you see what happens does everyone you know,

1016
01:13:11,079 --> 01:13:13,359
you're in your seats, you're doing
whatever, And then they bring these

1017
01:13:13,399 --> 01:13:15,600
people in that basically what they're gonna
do is they're gonna jump around in front

1018
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:21,119
of the stage to look like an
enthusiastics jumping around the audience. Right,

1019
01:13:21,159 --> 01:13:26,319
Well, those people a brought and
then they produces nephews and all that stuff,

1020
01:13:26,399 --> 01:13:29,960
right, and the lighting guys nieces, and they bring them in.

1021
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:31,880
They're waiting in the pocket. They
bring them in and they jump around like

1022
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:35,039
idiots for the show and then they
go right back out again. It is

1023
01:13:35,079 --> 01:13:39,359
not you're gonna let two thousand people
see the Super Bowl, especially the second

1024
01:13:39,359 --> 01:13:43,760
half right and they're gone. That's
how fake this thing is. And I

1025
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:45,199
didn't watch it this year, but
she wiz, you know, I mean,

1026
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,520
just have a band caught and play, you know, just you know

1027
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,439
they play stadiums all the time.
Just do it, you know, But

1028
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:57,880
it has to be this people jumping
around and who likes this? Lowis likes

1029
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,920
them? Lowis? Did you like
I was asleep? I'm not sure it's

1030
01:14:02,159 --> 01:14:06,159
my type of music, but I
can appreciate. I just look at it

1031
01:14:06,199 --> 01:14:13,640
and think, how do you get
everybody to be choreographed? So I mean

1032
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:17,159
that confidence of it, like you
Lois? Yeah, And how do they

1033
01:14:17,159 --> 01:14:20,720
do it? How much time do
they need to practice all that? Right?

1034
01:14:21,119 --> 01:14:26,439
And and just the way they bring
everything out, set everything up and

1035
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:29,760
then take it away and then the
game goes on. Amazing. That's quite

1036
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,560
amazing. But you know, I
would kill to be the stage crew for

1037
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:41,279
something like that. They they made
value you then not tell you. But

1038
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:45,800
well, it's the second most complained
about. No, it's the first most

1039
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:49,600
complained about the thing that happens on
television anally. The second most is the

1040
01:14:49,680 --> 01:15:00,319
in Memoriams on the Oscars. Who
wasn't the point? It's kind of It's

1041
01:15:00,359 --> 01:15:02,000
just it's a it's a ritual,
like we're gonna watch this thing and then

1042
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:06,039
we're gonna be really pissed off and
we're gonna be Yeah, I never thought

1043
01:15:06,079 --> 01:15:11,680
about that. That's yeah, I
can see that would upset people. Yeah,

1044
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,159
sure, but you can't include everybody
because it would be that would be

1045
01:15:15,199 --> 01:15:20,640
the show. In both cases,
they should probably drop it. Right.

1046
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:26,239
It's a downer, I mean,
I get it down. You can't include

1047
01:15:26,239 --> 01:15:30,239
everybody and just see a quick snapshot
of And the music is always so sappy.

1048
01:15:30,319 --> 01:15:31,560
You know. It's the music from
Platoon, you know what I mean.

1049
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:35,720
It's called the Bob's theme, and
it's all it's just anyway, listen,

1050
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:41,039
let us dry our teas and take
a very very quick curfure break here,

1051
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,600
and you're listening to Macaloney's musical X
Files. Here. We're here with

1052
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:50,439
Lois Lane, Rob Ferraro and the
very famous one one more than Larry took

1053
01:15:50,439 --> 01:15:56,399
off for his pool game. Didn't
even say goodbye. We don't why don't

1054
01:15:56,399 --> 01:15:59,680
we do this take a brush break
down and we'll be right back after this.

1055
01:16:00,439 --> 01:16:04,119
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Join our mission at HFOTUSA dot org. Welcome back and went to Macnimony's

1062
01:16:59,279 --> 01:17:02,079
musical exile here on the Distant Thunder
Radio Network. This is Mac and Ronnie.

1063
01:17:02,079 --> 01:17:04,960
Well, what a show this has
trended out to be. But the

1064
01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:11,600
first girls continue to fan yourself for
at least in the fifteen minutes because Ray

1065
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:15,760
Films one one is here. Hello, everybody, welcome back to the show.

1066
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:17,279
It's been fun so far fun.
This will do the show all night

1067
01:17:17,319 --> 01:17:21,000
long, could we it's a good
topic. We can make it a telethon

1068
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:28,119
a telephone like Jerry Lewis. This
is Rob for rout. Was that voice

1069
01:17:28,159 --> 01:17:31,720
you hear musical journalist, Rob,
thanks for joining us tonight. Very happy

1070
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:35,399
to be here, mac Hi,
everybody bringing your insight. Also in the

1071
01:17:35,399 --> 01:17:42,920
studio with us tonight, working feverishly
on something. Just keeping the time.

1072
01:17:43,159 --> 01:17:45,439
Keeping the time, well, that
takes some time. On the show,

1073
01:17:45,279 --> 01:17:50,279
the very lovely Lois laying hello,
Hi everybody. It's nice to be here.

1074
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:54,479
A lot of good stories tonight.
Rob is indicating we should clap for

1075
01:17:54,520 --> 01:18:00,560
you, and therefore we will thank
you time. But I'll take it,

1076
01:18:00,319 --> 01:18:04,680
so listen, just catch the listeners
up, please, Lois. So the

1077
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:11,520
last time you saw Elvis Costello,
this would be the eighth time. What

1078
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:15,239
happened? Well, you're a super
fan, Oh well I did. I

1079
01:18:15,359 --> 01:18:20,760
didn't go many times. I think
there was six. I didn't the last

1080
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:29,000
time you it was you and Mike. You absolutely won't we I didn't give

1081
01:18:29,039 --> 01:18:32,479
them flowers. No, I didn't
get backstage. We didn't. Then I

1082
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:38,359
was just like, okay, enough
already. But the last time I got

1083
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:45,399
backstage, backstage ebbra flowers again.
And I don't know how these things happened,

1084
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:48,079
but somebody saw me and said,
oh, are those for Elvis?

1085
01:18:48,079 --> 01:18:50,880
And I said yep, And they
said, you know, they took me

1086
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:58,880
backstage and pushed me into an elevator
where he was and yeah, and so

1087
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:04,199
Prince died. I just to hand
them to him and he said, oh,

1088
01:19:04,239 --> 01:19:08,159
they're scented, and I said,
well, they're real. You know,

1089
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:14,439
I didn't another drug irishman. That
was our big conversation. That was

1090
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:15,960
he said thank you, and then
well, because then he got out.

1091
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:20,000
He was taking the elevator to go
change and you know, and then have

1092
01:19:20,239 --> 01:19:24,760
whatever they do backstage. But you
know it's too shy. I didn't want

1093
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:28,159
to, like, you know,
the name of this, uh, her

1094
01:19:28,159 --> 01:19:30,840
book is going to be the Unintentional
Groupie. Let's just look at it through

1095
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:39,039
through another set of eyes, know, Elvis says his boys trolling the audience

1096
01:19:39,079 --> 01:19:45,800
afterwards, you look lonely, unintentional
groupie. My life with Elsa. Do

1097
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:50,000
you want to get into the Elton
John thing now that you've no, I

1098
01:19:50,039 --> 01:19:55,800
don't. She wants proposed to Elton
John. Oh my gosh, that's cool

1099
01:19:56,560 --> 01:20:00,279
backing up the wrong. Is he
your fantasy love? Elton John? Well?

1100
01:20:00,359 --> 01:20:03,640
I I was in love with him. I loved his music, you

1101
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:06,520
know, I was in like high
school or something, and I wrote him

1102
01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:10,359
the love note and I said I'm
going to write back in six months.

1103
01:20:10,359 --> 01:20:13,760
If you still feel like this,
I'll send it to you. So I

1104
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:15,880
literally waited six months and said I'm
back. Wow, and I did.

1105
01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:20,079
I don't. I didn't ever mail
it though, I don't didn't mail it,

1106
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:24,840
okay? Yeah? Is it still
around? You know? It might

1107
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:28,479
be in a box of memory somewhere. Wow, that's what I'm doing tomorrow.

1108
01:20:29,119 --> 01:20:30,960
Wait a minute, a love letter
to somebody else is in your box

1109
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:39,920
of memories? How about that?
Huh? Any pictures and girlfriend going to

1110
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:43,520
scavenger? No, but I didn't. It wasn't a person, you know,

1111
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:45,399
it was in a dream. It
wasn't a real Did you include a

1112
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:53,279
photo? No? You sure?
All right? That'd be worth looking for.

1113
01:20:54,720 --> 01:21:00,000
Can you see this kiss there?
You go? Yeah? Yeah?

1114
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:03,880
Yeah? Actually hate the background thing. I should show up? Oh that's

1115
01:21:03,279 --> 01:21:09,159
what this? Nineteen ninety six,
yeah, ninety six, ninety seven yea.

1116
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:13,800
So when the remember pulling the stage
apart set? The setup was pretty

1117
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,800
sick. It wasn't fancy. Remember
pulling the stage apart of the actual floor

1118
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:23,520
of the stage. There was all
this red stuff on it, like make

1119
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:28,079
believe blood blood. Yeah, but
everybody's freaking out, like Oh my god,

1120
01:21:28,119 --> 01:21:30,720
don't touch it. You got wear
gloves at it. Yes, it's

1121
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:35,720
fair what it is someone who cares
stock blood I do, at least I

1122
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:41,520
don't think so. You didn't never
know, not those guys. So we

1123
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:46,239
talked about off stage. We're talking
about the Moody Blues real quick, Moody

1124
01:21:46,239 --> 01:21:50,319
Blues, the Moody Blues, real
quick. And you know, it's one

1125
01:21:50,359 --> 01:21:54,399
of these bands. And I don't
have I have no respect for the Hall

1126
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:57,159
of Fame, the Rock Rol Hall
of Fame, because when you look at

1127
01:21:57,159 --> 01:21:59,640
the people who are in there,
and then you look at the people who

1128
01:22:00,119 --> 01:22:02,920
not in there, Like you were
talking about Florigner. You know, Floria

1129
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:05,880
was you know, whether you like
him or not. They were a big

1130
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:12,239
band and and yeah, they're better
than they deserve to be in there,

1131
01:22:12,319 --> 01:22:15,880
more than Whitney Houston. Let's say, okay, not that she wasn't a

1132
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:18,840
great et cetera, et cetera.
I think the Bay City Roll has been

1133
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:20,680
the Rock Roll a lot of fame, aren't they. Lewis, then you

1134
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:25,760
vote for him, but but you
know what I mean, And the Moody

1135
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:28,079
Blues for a long time, they
would not let him in. Now this

1136
01:22:28,119 --> 01:22:31,760
is when u Yan Wenner he spells
his name y a w n Okay,

1137
01:22:32,319 --> 01:22:36,279
before he made an asshole of himself, he was head of this committee and

1138
01:22:36,319 --> 01:22:41,479
they were just him and his buddies
in New York voting in the people.

1139
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:45,720
They want the People magazine guy.
Yeah yes, yes, yes, yeah

1140
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,760
yeah. And it was just trying
to be so hip that they would nominate

1141
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:54,039
these people you never knew, you
barely heard of them in Foreigner. Peter

1142
01:22:54,199 --> 01:22:59,119
Frampton, who had the largest selling
live album ever, is not in the

1143
01:22:59,159 --> 01:23:01,039
rock one. And it's a great
top player, you know, I mean,

1144
01:23:01,399 --> 01:23:04,359
I don't know. So the Moody
Blues for a long time were not

1145
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:09,239
It did not get in. They
finally didn't get in, and they changed

1146
01:23:09,239 --> 01:23:12,960
the way music. I mean they
were they were. They were basically the

1147
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:16,760
Beatles up on a different level of
vocal homies and stuff like that. But

1148
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:23,079
they introduced the mellotron into rock.
And basically what that is it's a big

1149
01:23:23,199 --> 01:23:28,479
tape recorder and each key that you
mentioned an organ, Each key on the

1150
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:32,039
organ is a tape loop, and
that tape loop is recorded a violin or

1151
01:23:32,079 --> 01:23:35,960
a flute or whatever, and if
you play them, it's going to sound

1152
01:23:36,199 --> 01:23:41,319
like an Augustra for seven seconds seven
seconds, So if you listen to Moody

1153
01:23:41,319 --> 01:23:44,640
Blue songs, you can hear it
go the seven seconds. Then they have

1154
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:46,720
then you have to change it,
right. But the way they used it,

1155
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:50,640
they weren't crazy about it. They
just used it for texture and stuff

1156
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:56,000
like that. And then they were
presynthesizers is what happened. Then the synthesizer

1157
01:23:56,039 --> 01:23:58,720
comes in, then you can do
everything. Now it's really nuts, you

1158
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,720
know. And they these days you
don't have to buy a me eleotron,

1159
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:06,000
and they're hard to keep up because
you have to keep those seventy six tape

1160
01:24:06,039 --> 01:24:11,920
loops going all the time. I
saw them play in nineteen seven was pretty

1161
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:14,520
good. They were good. Yeah, in the Beatles, the Beatles used

1162
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:15,720
them. The Beatles were the first
to use it in the record Believe it

1163
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:23,479
or Not on Abbey Road. And
just an interesting way introducing that into rock

1164
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:26,960
music. And then synthesizers basically kind
of take over, you know in a

1165
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:31,119
way. So yeah, the movie
Drum Lodge is ill. He was doing

1166
01:24:31,159 --> 01:24:36,039
some kind of a tour and he
can't do it justin Heywood still tours by

1167
01:24:36,119 --> 01:24:41,840
himself and with like a little band. Ray Thomas their flute player. He

1168
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:45,880
died a little while ago. Gam
Age their drummer died a little and there

1169
01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:48,760
were all old guys. I mean
they you know, Mike Pinder was their

1170
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:54,159
original keybod play. He's still around, but yeah, very innovative and should

1171
01:24:54,159 --> 01:24:58,760
have been in the so called rock
and Hall of Fame before the Beastie Boys,

1172
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:04,479
right at least. Well, you
know what happened there is the first

1173
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:08,119
thought was, Hey, we're gonna
build this museum in Cleveland. Why Cleveland,

1174
01:25:08,199 --> 01:25:10,399
I don't know, I understand the
history, but like that's just a

1175
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:13,079
bad move. Yes, and we're
gonna build this in Cleveland. And so

1176
01:25:13,079 --> 01:25:15,600
what we're gonna do is we're gonna
front load the hall by putting in like

1177
01:25:15,079 --> 01:25:18,479
awesome artists right up front to who
the rolling Stones, the Beatles, you

1178
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:20,960
know, the doors. They're all
going in and people will want to go

1179
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:26,039
to the museum, paying admission and
see this. But then what happened is

1180
01:25:26,039 --> 01:25:30,439
it became less of a museum thing
for for money and more of a television

1181
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:33,000
show. They make all their money
for the actual induction. That's where they

1182
01:25:33,039 --> 01:25:38,279
sell all the television. So there's
less impetus to put foreigner. Because even

1183
01:25:38,279 --> 01:25:42,079
though foreigner's popular amongst our friends.
They're not popular at all. In the

1184
01:25:42,119 --> 01:25:45,119
larger scheme of things, jay Z
is popular. Oh I see, okay,

1185
01:25:45,159 --> 01:25:47,359
I see what you mean. Jay
Z goes in, they sell the

1186
01:25:47,399 --> 01:25:53,960
advertising, they make all the money, and Pearner remains out. Sucks.

1187
01:25:53,960 --> 01:25:57,760
Why it's such a bad policy.
Why can't jay Z be just the inductee

1188
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:00,520
and inductory right right, that's a
great idea. Why not have him like

1189
01:26:00,600 --> 01:26:03,680
Coast the whole night you can?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, him be

1190
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:08,880
jay Z for a while and just
induct these people that you know how I'm

1191
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:12,680
done. There always money, always
money, always money, right, sucks,

1192
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,319
It's money in marketing, That's what
it is, all right. So

1193
01:26:15,319 --> 01:26:17,760
we're gonna wrap up good night by
one more story. And I have a

1194
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:23,479
story to tell about someone who is
in the music business only because he was

1195
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:29,359
featured on one of the biggest soundtracks
ever. And you know that I'm talking

1196
01:26:29,359 --> 01:26:33,560
about my very good friend John Travolta
Lowis you know, yes, so years

1197
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:38,119
ago we should tell this story.
Yeah, years ago, years ago.

1198
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:42,560
I saw her in the paper.
And I've told this story before. One

1199
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:45,560
one if he falls asleep in a
way saw in the paper. There they're

1200
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:49,199
looking for extras for a movie scene
at Fenway Park. Okay, now this

1201
01:26:49,279 --> 01:26:57,079
is in October of who knows when, and come down to Avalon nightclub next

1202
01:26:57,079 --> 01:27:00,640
to Fenway Park. But quote try
out so to sign up. So it

1203
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:03,880
took me. It was four days. It took me three days to convince

1204
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:08,439
Lowess took it down because I'm convinced
they can look at her and convert the

1205
01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:15,439
Hollywood. Right. So we go
into the place and it's, uh,

1206
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:17,800
it's it's basically all long lines,
right, thank you, one one yeah,

1207
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:26,560
right, and and and it's just
basically waving lines and filling stuff out

1208
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:30,039
and all this stuff. And there's
literally thousands of people there. So in

1209
01:27:30,079 --> 01:27:32,319
the middle of all this, this
guy walks up to me and he gives

1210
01:27:32,359 --> 01:27:38,119
me a little orange tag like you
would get a cupe on at a uh,

1211
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:43,680
like a movie stuff like a movie, old fashioned little tickets. Yeah,

1212
01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:45,359
comes out of the blue. It
gives it to me, says,

1213
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:46,960
hold on to this, we're going
to make an announcement later. Then he

1214
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:50,439
disappears into these hundreds of people.
Right. So then the day goes on.

1215
01:27:50,680 --> 01:27:56,239
I thought I won that door prize, and we go into this big

1216
01:27:56,359 --> 01:28:00,239
room and the way I remember it. Lois is rolling her eyes already the

1217
01:28:00,239 --> 01:28:03,159
way I remember it. They said, okay, everyone here can be in

1218
01:28:03,199 --> 01:28:05,800
the movie, but you have to
be a friendly pocket, like five in

1219
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:11,359
the morning, dressed like it's summer, and be prepared to stay there until

1220
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:15,399
the sun goes down and you get
a box lunch in forty bucks. Right,

1221
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:18,199
And like two thirds of the people
just get up and walked out,

1222
01:28:18,479 --> 01:28:21,800
just like that, right. So
the people who stayed, they said,

1223
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:25,840
okay, come this way. And
the only people who stay behind the people

1224
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:28,439
of the orange tickets. No,
no, no, go ahead. They

1225
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:32,199
took They said to orange ticket holders, come with us, okay, because

1226
01:28:33,399 --> 01:28:36,880
and come It was myself in Two
Black Women, right, if I remember,

1227
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:40,479
I don't remember who went with you. I just remember that, okay,

1228
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:45,760
Rashida and Mashida. Yes, So
anyway, so probably cut that out.

1229
01:28:45,039 --> 01:28:49,039
So anyway, they said to me, do you want to be in

1230
01:28:49,039 --> 01:28:53,600
the movie? Do you want to
be in the movie? So I said,

1231
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:56,159
uh, yeah, sure, you
know, and I'm writing a book

1232
01:28:56,239 --> 01:28:58,720
on deadline, as it turns out, and I had just come back from

1233
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:02,640
Hollywood for a whole different thing.
So I said okay. So they said,

1234
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:05,800
okay, get your picture taken once
again, we'll send it the hog.

1235
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:09,399
But someone will call you in two
weeks if they're interested. Two weeks

1236
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:13,359
goes by. Now it's the end
of October and they say, do you

1237
01:29:13,399 --> 01:29:15,680
want to be in this movie?
They call you. Yeah, so they

1238
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:21,239
call me and they say, be
at the Woolburne State Mental Facility tomorrow with

1239
01:29:21,359 --> 01:29:27,000
five in the morning, in dressing
clothes that you don't want to see again,

1240
01:29:27,159 --> 01:29:30,439
right yes, right away. I
know. It wasn't John Travolt's best

1241
01:29:30,439 --> 01:29:35,000
friend in the movie. So basically
what it was. I played a It's

1242
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:39,880
called The Civil Action. It's about
hazardous waste dumps and stuff like that.

1243
01:29:40,199 --> 01:29:43,359
John Travolt is a crusading lawyer just
happened to live in New He put the

1244
01:29:43,439 --> 01:29:48,840
character for a while, and I
was a hazard waste factory worker in a

1245
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:58,079
truck. Okay, jeez, which
was cool. It was cool because it

1246
01:29:58,119 --> 01:30:01,079
was very cold. It took four
days to on the scene and we got

1247
01:30:01,119 --> 01:30:03,840
to sit in this truck with the
heat on and the radio and stuff.

1248
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:06,720
I was with this guy he used
to be in Boston commercials, very Bob

1249
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:10,520
Dug and it was a cool experience. Plus we get in one hundred bucks

1250
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:15,720
a day, plus we're playing poker, plus we're getting fed by the craft

1251
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:18,920
services people. And the food was
like five star outstanding. The food was

1252
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:21,960
unbelievable. The only thing he had
to do is a guy came and announce.

1253
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:27,159
He says, all the union members
have to be served first, and

1254
01:30:27,199 --> 01:30:29,079
then you can go eat your food. And we're going, yeah, we

1255
01:30:29,079 --> 01:30:30,840
don't care. Right. So anyway, in the midst of all this,

1256
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:35,319
John Chivolta comes over to meet us. You know, they gathered us together

1257
01:30:35,319 --> 01:30:38,680
at the beginning of the day,
and you just going, he's a regular

1258
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:40,640
guy. I've said it before.
I always thought it was a show of

1259
01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:44,640
his asshole. You know, why
not, right, not a very regular

1260
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:47,199
guy. Very I mean, obviously
a star. He made sure he met

1261
01:30:47,239 --> 01:30:51,800
every person, shook everybody's here and
just talked to us. And then but

1262
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:55,960
we would see him walking around like
the next day. You know, he

1263
01:30:56,039 --> 01:30:59,560
said people with him, but people
brought in all people brought it. After

1264
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:02,640
that, people brought in everything for
me to sign records, and he just

1265
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:05,640
did it. He just did it. He was a good guy. He

1266
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:11,279
left me with the oppression of being
a good Yeah. Civil actions. So

1267
01:31:11,319 --> 01:31:15,159
anyway, if you see the movie. I'm in it for one point two

1268
01:31:15,279 --> 01:31:18,920
seconds. Actually kind of measured it
like a truck just goes bye. I'm

1269
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:23,760
in that truck. Are you driving
the truck right now? I'm in the

1270
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:26,880
past. I'm riding shotgun. Yeah, and I got a clipboard in my

1271
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:30,600
hand. Yes, yep, yeah, he got a hand a clipboard.

1272
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:33,479
Okay, yeah, you're just you
on you're actually on camera. Well,

1273
01:31:33,520 --> 01:31:38,039
the scene was I was standing beside
the truck, and I'm telling you,

1274
01:31:38,119 --> 01:31:42,079
we did this forty five times.
I'm standing beside the truck. The guy

1275
01:31:42,159 --> 01:31:45,119
is inside the truck. I got
a clipboard and I just pretend to write,

1276
01:31:45,119 --> 01:31:47,640
and then I climb up into the
truck, close the door, and

1277
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:53,279
the truck kind of goes out.
Right. All they left in was the

1278
01:31:53,279 --> 01:31:57,319
truck like going out. It's not
me, don't want anything, just the

1279
01:31:57,319 --> 01:32:00,720
truck just goes by. The camera
literally goes by the camera. The funniest

1280
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:02,079
thing about it, there's a lot
of funny shit that happened though there,

1281
01:32:02,359 --> 01:32:06,720
Like they painted the leaves green.
They had people with spray guns paint the

1282
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:12,079
leaves green and stuff like that.
And they had the dog from the Little

1283
01:32:12,159 --> 01:32:15,199
Rascals Redo, which had just come
out. Okay. They actually did the

1284
01:32:15,199 --> 01:32:19,560
Little Rascals again at some point,
and they had the dog with the with

1285
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:23,680
the with the black eye and stuff, and he was supposed to be a

1286
01:32:23,680 --> 01:32:27,520
god dog bocking at John Travolta coming
out of the woods. We're staying there

1287
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:30,000
watching this whole thing, and the
dog won't box. The dogs like three

1288
01:32:30,039 --> 01:32:33,319
people, yeah, and they're doing
anything. They're trying to give him treats

1289
01:32:33,319 --> 01:32:36,800
and she had at one point they're
pulling his tail and he just won't box,

1290
01:32:38,079 --> 01:32:40,319
and so they had to, like, you know, leave the set,

1291
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:43,039
leave the set, and you know, in disgrace. It was really

1292
01:32:43,039 --> 01:32:47,359
bad, but an interesting experience.
Okay. And as I was leaving,

1293
01:32:47,399 --> 01:32:51,319
the guy, this guy Paul started
it all, gave me the orange ticket.

1294
01:32:53,279 --> 01:32:55,800
You're walking out there and you have
this like little legs of thing,

1295
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:59,399
and he said, do you want
to keep doing this? Would you be

1296
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:00,239
interested? He called, and they
said yeah, for what? And he

1297
01:33:00,279 --> 01:33:06,520
says, he just naturally how he
goes prisons and barbrooms. Yep, what

1298
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:12,199
you said, by prisons and barber
rooms. Seeing the look you that's the

1299
01:33:12,279 --> 01:33:15,039
look when when they put me in
when I first got there that day,

1300
01:33:15,359 --> 01:33:18,680
they put me in this cafeteria and
it looked, like I've said before,

1301
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:24,079
like the cast of uh, you
know, Mad Max or something. I

1302
01:33:24,079 --> 01:33:29,399
mean, there's all these screwy looking
guys. And so they finally tell us

1303
01:33:29,399 --> 01:33:32,960
what we're going to do, and
they line us up outside the wardrobe trailer

1304
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:35,720
and uh, you know, I
hate to say it, but just from

1305
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:40,560
Central Casting, these two guys come
out. They're obviously a gay couple,

1306
01:33:41,159 --> 01:33:44,880
and they're going down the line you're
good, you're good, y'are getting They

1307
01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:47,439
good to me, and they go
total makeover, total makeover, and they

1308
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:50,960
bring me into the trailer and they
take off the clothes that I thought were

1309
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:56,079
crappy, and they give me this
vest that has tire all over it and

1310
01:33:56,159 --> 01:33:59,359
stuff like that, and they make
me sign a report saying if you don't

1311
01:33:59,359 --> 01:34:02,039
bring this back, we're gonna charge
you for and there's like eight hundred bucks

1312
01:34:02,119 --> 01:34:04,960
or something, you know, just
so they'll get there the wardrobe back.

1313
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:09,840
But yeah, yeah, all that
from one point two seconds and I get

1314
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:13,119
home and my answer machine is going
crazy because my head is going you know,

1315
01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:15,399
is the book you know what I'm
going, Well, I'm making a

1316
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:18,239
movie. I'm saying the movies.
Now, screw the book. I'm in

1317
01:34:18,279 --> 01:34:23,039
the movies now, right exactly.
Let me have my let me have my

1318
01:34:23,119 --> 01:34:26,720
people talk to you. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, if the phone doesn't

1319
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:31,600
mean it's me at one one,
your one last story, me a story.

1320
01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:34,079
How much time I have as long
as you want that and you can

1321
01:34:34,159 --> 01:34:40,880
keep another two minutes. Okay,
Well, I'm not going to tell my

1322
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:45,399
steel real story to our story,
so I guess I'm gonna tell my uh

1323
01:34:45,319 --> 01:34:50,319
my story about getting getting offered a
job to be in the hot cheap Oh,

1324
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:55,600
let's let's play the sad music.
Go ahead, Okay, play the

1325
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:59,520
sad music, my sing. I'm
a member of i A t s C.

1326
01:35:00,239 --> 01:35:03,359
Lines of Theatrical Stage Employees, the
union that does movies like you ran

1327
01:35:03,399 --> 01:35:09,199
into and stage, screen and television
all right, and rock and roll.

1328
01:35:09,279 --> 01:35:13,600
So I'm doing my thing. I'm
working, I'm sitting. I'm checking out

1329
01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:20,119
some farre light robotic lighting equipment and
things like that. So a guy comes

1330
01:35:20,119 --> 01:35:23,560
over to me and taps on the
shoulder, says, hey, I've worked

1331
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:26,000
with it before. He may not
remember me, but I did the show

1332
01:35:26,159 --> 01:35:30,119
something X y Z show, whatever
it was, and I worked with it

1333
01:35:30,239 --> 01:35:36,840
before, and I need somebody to
replace me. On the tour with Heart

1334
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:42,119
and Cheap Trick because my wife's having
a baby and we want to get off

1335
01:35:42,119 --> 01:35:45,800
the tour. She's she really needs
some home time and we're going off to

1336
01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:54,359
the States for another week or so
and then the Scandinavian countries in Europe.

1337
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:59,760
So can you replace me? You
obviously are talented and working on lights and

1338
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:01,800
and everything else. I've watched your
work and you bring your own tools and

1339
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:08,119
the whole deal. So I said, let me think about that. And

1340
01:36:08,239 --> 01:36:12,720
it's about time for a lunch break, so I run over to the payphone,

1341
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:15,800
drop a quarter in there, and
I call Eileen. I say,

1342
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:19,880
Eileen, you wouldn't believe what just
happened. We're ready for sound check here

1343
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:28,159
for Heart and Cheap Trick. And
the guy from their regular road crew for

1344
01:36:28,279 --> 01:36:31,479
Heart comes up to me and says
he wants me to replace him. I

1345
01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:36,399
don't have no idea how much money
they'll be offering me, But what do

1346
01:36:36,439 --> 01:36:43,119
you think I'd be on the road
for about six seven weeks? I could.

1347
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:45,479
I was working for Digital Equipment Corporation, Eileen, I'm working for Deck.

1348
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:53,680
They allow employees to have sabbaticals for
whatever reason. Become a priest or

1349
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:58,319
become a rock and full roady and
come back and they hold onto your job.

1350
01:36:58,359 --> 01:37:00,479
You get your job back, yes, yes, yes, yes paid

1351
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:03,560
while it's a baticle, but you
get you get your job back. It's

1352
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:08,720
part of their their benefits package.
That's right. They're out of business now.

1353
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:12,920
But go ahead. I mean,
it just tells me just to keep

1354
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:15,359
my day job and don't be a
jerk. You know, I said,

1355
01:37:17,199 --> 01:37:20,199
I really appreciate the issue too much, but it was really out there.

1356
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:25,560
I had all these visions of grandeur. Yes, Hot and Cheap Trick.

1357
01:37:26,039 --> 01:37:30,399
This was the second time I've worked
with the Heart and Cheap Trick tour often.

1358
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:32,960
So how did you meet the blonde? How did you meet Nancy?

1359
01:37:34,560 --> 01:37:41,760
Uh? I didn't meet her personally, but that's that same day, that

1360
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:45,199
same show, we had some touch
up work to do, you know,

1361
01:37:45,640 --> 01:37:50,439
just check the check to see if
the the house sound guys and the and

1362
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:57,800
the the band sound guys had all
everything working and anything else because they were

1363
01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:00,159
getting ready for a sound check,
and I went to make sure we didn't

1364
01:38:00,239 --> 01:38:05,359
leave any gear on the floor or
any place. I'm walking around, I'm

1365
01:38:05,399 --> 01:38:09,920
looking around. I'm the only one
in the in the auditorium, and then

1366
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:14,680
I decided to sit down and just
say, you know, I'm tired.

1367
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:19,239
You know, I'm just sitting down, and the band comes out and I'm

1368
01:38:19,359 --> 01:38:21,840
saying, oh, ship, I
guess I guess I have to go.

1369
01:38:23,119 --> 01:38:28,319
And it wasn't Nancy Iran, it
was I think it might have been Mark

1370
01:38:28,399 --> 01:38:32,760
Andy is the bass place? Place
you don't have to go anywhere. I

1371
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:38,319
could sit like I'm like a kid, I can sit here. And I

1372
01:38:38,319 --> 01:38:41,159
think I just said I could sit
here. Okay, you know, in

1373
01:38:41,199 --> 01:38:45,199
case you need anything, just let
me do ye yeah, yeah, huh.

1374
01:38:45,239 --> 01:38:49,039
So Now if I wasn't allowed to
do that, the band would make

1375
01:38:49,359 --> 01:38:55,640
make it so that you're not allowed
to be here, or my shop Steward

1376
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:57,920
would come out and say, well, what hell you do it? Get

1377
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:01,319
back that none of those things happen. The band lets you do something.

1378
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:05,479
It's okay to do it, so
long as though you're getting paid to do

1379
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:10,079
it. You know, right now, I'm still on the clock, so

1380
01:39:10,199 --> 01:39:15,439
I'm just sitting there. They do
They decided to do a a sound check

1381
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:20,239
acoustic uh tunes. They did a
lot of their hits. They did about

1382
01:39:20,239 --> 01:39:26,760
maybe seven or eight songs acoustically.
Yeah, yeah, sure, and I'm

1383
01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:30,319
in the audience. I mean there's
nobody else around looking around for anybody.

1384
01:39:30,399 --> 01:39:34,119
That's the sound guy. Their house
sound guy was making some adjustments, but

1385
01:39:34,199 --> 01:39:38,119
you know, you're making adjustments with
an empty house, and then you got

1386
01:39:38,119 --> 01:39:41,600
to do it again the full house. With the full house, you know,

1387
01:39:41,720 --> 01:39:45,359
well, at least they get things
in the right. So I'm sitting

1388
01:39:45,399 --> 01:39:51,680
there watching an acoustic set their asses
off and Nancy's doing the leg kicks and

1389
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:56,479
everything. Really yeah, just for
you, just for you. I was

1390
01:39:56,520 --> 01:40:00,960
just like sweat. I was sweating
just by watching it. If I had

1391
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:05,079
had a cuff on a blood pressure
probably would have split open if I had

1392
01:40:05,119 --> 01:40:08,680
that thing in my finger. The
message yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah

1393
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:12,640
yeah right yeah, that really gets
the chicks man. When one of those

1394
01:40:12,680 --> 01:40:17,199
wedding so so, at what point
did nanty flashes are like wedding watching this

1395
01:40:17,319 --> 01:40:24,199
band play all my favorite songs Lewis
talked about. Lewis has just left the

1396
01:40:24,199 --> 01:40:30,199
bills working on the hits. That's
what they did. I want to ask

1397
01:40:30,279 --> 01:40:35,560
you, at what point did Nancy
throw over panthees at you? Rob?

1398
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:41,000
Do you have one more story?
One more? Yes, I'll give you

1399
01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:45,960
a real quick one. So two
thousand and two, David Lee Roth and

1400
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:49,079
Sammy Hag are famously toured together.
Sure. Yeah, they hated each other,

1401
01:40:49,119 --> 01:40:53,720
and I wanted they truly hated each
other. It wasn't just promotion,

1402
01:40:53,840 --> 01:40:57,000
and we were afraid it wasn't going
to make it down to us in New

1403
01:40:57,079 --> 01:41:00,560
Jersey, so we wanted to see
it quickly so we can say we saw

1404
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:03,239
this thing. So we drove up
to Ohio, to the Blossom Center in

1405
01:41:03,279 --> 01:41:09,279
Ohio and to see the first show. Oh wow, yes, they drew

1406
01:41:09,319 --> 01:41:15,199
sticks and Roth opened the first show
and Hagar closed the first show. And

1407
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:19,039
we're watching it and we're getting pretty
hammered. Man, we're having like an

1408
01:41:19,319 --> 01:41:24,079
old school hard rock yes, good
night out. Yes, yes, yes,

1409
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:28,680
Roth was you know, fantastic because
Roth thought it was nineteen seventy six

1410
01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:31,439
and he took it very seriously even
though he was fifty. Hagar is more

1411
01:41:31,479 --> 01:41:35,079
comfortable in himself. Hegar's wearing a
he's got a beer belly and a loose

1412
01:41:35,079 --> 01:41:40,600
T shirt and he's acting like he's
Jimmy Buffett. So two totally diverse approaches

1413
01:41:40,600 --> 01:41:45,439
to this thing. Yes, yes, So soon as they ended, Hagar

1414
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:48,800
ended, my friend and I are
like, dude, let's just walk backstage.

1415
01:41:48,880 --> 01:41:51,000
No, boy, look at this
place. This place is a joke.

1416
01:41:51,039 --> 01:41:55,520
There's no security. This is after
nine to eleven as well. And

1417
01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:58,760
then they said, oh yeah.
So I said, just no, matter

1418
01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:02,159
what you do, just follow my
lead and act like we're here's supposed to

1419
01:42:02,199 --> 01:42:05,079
be here. Now. My friend
is my friend of forty years. I

1420
01:42:05,079 --> 01:42:09,520
love him. He's not too bright, and he didn't have a lot of

1421
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:12,399
interest in what was going on that
night. He just wanted to hang out

1422
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:15,279
and drink and take the trip to
Ohio. Yes, yes, yes,

1423
01:42:15,359 --> 01:42:17,159
So he said, just come with
me and just behave man, and we'll

1424
01:42:17,199 --> 01:42:20,479
get where we're going. So he
follows me and we walked down and this

1425
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:25,159
kid is a security guard, and
we wait till he's distracted. We walk

1426
01:42:25,279 --> 01:42:27,560
right around the side. We walked
through the back, and all of a

1427
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:31,000
sudden, we are suddenly backstage and
in about thirty yards away, I can

1428
01:42:31,039 --> 01:42:38,279
see David Lee Roth and he opened
so his show. Like I thought he'd

1429
01:42:38,279 --> 01:42:42,399
be gone. Nope, he's hanging
up, hanging around. And then I'm

1430
01:42:42,399 --> 01:42:44,880
looking to the right. I'm a
little nervous because I want to anchor myself

1431
01:42:44,920 --> 01:42:47,600
somewhere and not get kicked out.
And I see David Lee Roth's bass player,

1432
01:42:48,079 --> 01:42:51,199
and he was in a band called
White Lion that sold like fifteen million

1433
01:42:51,199 --> 01:42:55,640
albums. Yep, yeah, yeah, so I knew that. And I

1434
01:42:55,760 --> 01:43:00,159
saddled up next to him and started
talking about White Lion and my friends is

1435
01:43:00,159 --> 01:43:02,920
hanging out and everything's cool, and
I'm eyeing David Lee Roth. He's thirty

1436
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:09,560
yards right there, but he's got
four or five huge security guards around him,

1437
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:11,640
all of them black, all of
them look like they play in the

1438
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:15,800
NFL. All of them looked very
angry. Now you got to understand,

1439
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:20,159
davidly Roth hasn't toured in an arena
at this point for almost fifteen years.

1440
01:43:20,159 --> 01:43:26,239
He's wearing a hair piece. He
you know, he doesn't he doesn't have

1441
01:43:26,279 --> 01:43:29,279
the commercial clout he has. He
hasn't been on the radio with a new

1442
01:43:29,319 --> 01:43:31,640
single in like fifteen years. The
radio is a DJ for a while.

1443
01:43:31,680 --> 01:43:40,520
Yeah, job kill them. He
replaced the Howard Stern and then you got

1444
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:44,239
he got bounced in about two months. And the thing is is that like

1445
01:43:44,319 --> 01:43:48,560
he you know, he to have
five of these gigantic, angry bodyguards.

1446
01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:51,079
Ridiculous. Nobody wants to get to
him. But me, and I just

1447
01:43:51,119 --> 01:43:57,640
want to say hey. So I
keep looking and I keep looking, and

1448
01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:01,079
I'm in this discussion, but James
Dealer of White Lion, and I can't

1449
01:44:01,119 --> 01:44:06,039
find my friend. He's wandered off
somewhere. I should have put the leash

1450
01:44:06,079 --> 01:44:10,720
on him. And then all of
a sudden, I'm looking around and now

1451
01:44:10,800 --> 01:44:15,680
I look and he's being escorted by
two gigantic black body guys and he's bringing

1452
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:17,199
him and he's like, they won't
even let me use the fucking bathroom.

1453
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:20,840
And he went to use the porta
potty, but he used the one right

1454
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:26,199
next to Dave's bus, and they
thought he was trying to do some nefarious

1455
01:44:26,239 --> 01:44:33,640
nonsense camp the World leader David Lee
Roth, and they bounced them and uh,

1456
01:44:34,119 --> 01:44:38,439
and that was the end of that. As we were on our way

1457
01:44:38,439 --> 01:44:42,119
out, the bass player looked at
me. I don't know what his relationship

1458
01:44:42,159 --> 01:44:45,760
is with Roth. Hopefully he's not
a regular listener to your show, he

1459
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:47,760
said, he said, he said, the whole thing so ridiculous. Y

1460
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:50,479
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he was. He knows. It's

1461
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:54,399
a paycheck. What's it? The
same band? Were they backed by the

1462
01:44:54,399 --> 01:44:57,520
same band, and they have two
different bands, two different bands. And

1463
01:44:57,520 --> 01:45:00,920
that was the thing is Sammy brought
his friends from Cobbo Yeah yeah, oh

1464
01:45:00,119 --> 01:45:03,359
cool, yes, sing, And
davidly Roth went out and got the premier

1465
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:08,960
van Halen tribute band and went out
there. He got eight pack abs,

1466
01:45:09,000 --> 01:45:12,279
he worked out, he put the
blunde wig on. Yeah yeah, did

1467
01:45:12,279 --> 01:45:15,439
his kicks and he was going for
it. Yeah huh yeah yeah, but

1468
01:45:15,479 --> 01:45:17,319
he didn't realize that that isn't what
you go for. You go for I

1469
01:45:17,319 --> 01:45:20,520
don't really like Sammy hag On that
much, but he knew how to do

1470
01:45:20,560 --> 01:45:23,680
it, you know what I mean. He was more relaxed. He just

1471
01:45:23,720 --> 01:45:26,720
knew how to do it. It's
more comfortable in himself. And the other

1472
01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:30,560
thing people can never underestimate that we
just talked about is money. We look

1473
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:32,720
at it as quality of the arc
and everything, sure, but for them,

1474
01:45:33,079 --> 01:45:35,840
for them, it's money. Yeah. And so when davidly Roth,

1475
01:45:35,960 --> 01:45:39,960
no, I mean Sammy Hagar at
that point was worth ten times more than

1476
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:43,600
a Roth Roth hadn't been out with
Van Halen in twenty five years. Hagar

1477
01:45:43,640 --> 01:45:46,039
sold his vodka company for sixty seventy
million dollars. Yeah. Yes, And

1478
01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:50,119
that's where the animosity comes from,
because that's how they measure it to have

1479
01:45:50,119 --> 01:45:54,319
more money than you. Yeah.
Wow, that's cool. Listen, let's

1480
01:45:54,359 --> 01:45:57,439
take this opportunity to clap a rug. Yeah, thank you, Rob.

1481
01:45:57,560 --> 01:46:01,039
That's a great adding to the show. We Really Freer with David Lee Roth.

1482
01:46:01,079 --> 01:46:04,199
I love that guy. I thought
he was was the first Van Hale

1483
01:46:04,279 --> 01:46:06,840
and stuff that he did, I
mean, they were great. They were

1484
01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:12,279
the perfect combination those four guys.
You know, talk about your rough foundations

1485
01:46:12,319 --> 01:46:16,319
one more time on your websites.
Sure, so you could read some of

1486
01:46:16,359 --> 01:46:21,319
my interviews. There's plenty there at
of Personal Interest dot com. And you

1487
01:46:21,359 --> 01:46:26,399
can also see me at the Giving
Arts dot com, which is where I

1488
01:46:26,479 --> 01:46:30,079
promote celebrity charity and celebrity charity functions. Wow, that's cool. Thank you,

1489
01:46:30,199 --> 01:46:33,319
Rob. Join us again real soon. Okay, thank you. I

1490
01:46:33,359 --> 01:46:38,680
love being with you guys. Great
to see you. A lot of good

1491
01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:43,079
interview content. You ain't kid.
Wow you talking about up close and personal.

1492
01:46:43,119 --> 01:46:48,880
It's like it looks but he looks
like Siyu. That looked like us.

1493
01:46:49,359 --> 01:46:53,840
If someone like Kim walks up to
a musician and someone like us walks

1494
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:59,119
up, who's he going to try
to buy the cocaine off of the lois

1495
01:46:59,359 --> 01:47:01,840
on that note, Lois, thank
you for joining us. We really appreciate

1496
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:04,119
it. Thank you for having me. It was lots of fun, lightening

1497
01:47:04,199 --> 01:47:09,319
up the show and one on one
until we meet next time. Thank you.

1498
01:47:09,880 --> 01:47:13,439
Let's clap the Loess. Let's cop
for everybody. That's a good show.

1499
01:47:14,159 --> 01:47:17,159
Thank you. M Let's we'll lend
the show with the plugs. The

1500
01:47:17,159 --> 01:47:21,159
plugs. The Home Strut Troops Home
SAT Troops is an organization that raises money

1501
01:47:21,159 --> 01:47:28,039
for our veterans who will come back
from post combat action post nine to eleven

1502
01:47:28,239 --> 01:47:30,439
combat. That would be the Afghan
War and the Iraqi War. These are

1503
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:34,119
folks who came home missing a limb, a limo or whatever. And what

1504
01:47:34,239 --> 01:47:39,920
Home Stut Troops does is they build
the homes that are more adaptable to their

1505
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:42,720
needs. That means not a lot
to stay, as low account of space,

1506
01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:45,119
things like that. And then when
they build the house, they tear

1507
01:47:45,159 --> 01:47:47,720
up the moise, they give them
the keys. It's this forever, for

1508
01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:53,239
free. And then they go out
and re join society and love what.

1509
01:47:53,319 --> 01:47:56,720
I hate to say this, but
live what we would consider a normal life

1510
01:47:56,760 --> 01:47:59,840
now. Willis and I about a
year ago went down to see one of

1511
01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:02,479
these homes and Massa Poyet, Massachusetts. Lois right. We were in freshed

1512
01:48:03,279 --> 01:48:09,520
amazing. What these people do,
Holmes rut troops ninety cents on your charity

1513
01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:13,039
dollar. It goes right to our
veterans. So please google them see what

1514
01:48:13,079 --> 01:48:17,399
they're about. And how we end
of a show now is that you have

1515
01:48:17,439 --> 01:48:21,000
to remember John McCain was not a
loser. Okay, he's a wah hero.

1516
01:48:21,159 --> 01:48:25,800
He's also a disabled veteran. You
don't make fun of people like that.

1517
01:48:25,880 --> 01:48:30,159
You look up to them. And
so thank you, and so this

1518
01:48:30,279 --> 01:48:36,119
is Mac for the entire gang here
on macloney's musical X Files to hear us

1519
01:48:36,119 --> 01:52:09,800
next time, be safe, be
happy, and bye bye name. In

1520
01:52:09,880 --> 01:52:15,279
the darkest darkness, in the blackness
black on the road to nowhere, there's

1521
01:52:15,359 --> 01:52:20,239
no turning back. Love reached out
and touched me, stop me in my

1522
01:52:20,479 --> 01:52:30,720
tracks across my heart, because it's
true. I'm nothing with that across my

1523
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:49,239
heart, because it's true, I'm
nothing with that. With the hell when

1524
01:52:49,239 --> 01:52:56,640
the stars I'm raging and it sees
are high, when the cat's fire across

1525
01:52:56,720 --> 01:53:02,920
the smoky sky and the castle's crumble, and the angels cried cross my heart,

1526
01:53:03,279 --> 01:53:12,840
Cuse it's true. I'm nothing with
that you cross my heart. That

1527
01:53:13,039 --> 01:53:59,119
it's true. I'm nothing with that. With the g don't read, Oh,

1528
01:53:59,399 --> 01:54:03,760
you don't issue. I'm just gonna
stand here, make my own decision.

1529
01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:15,000
I'm going to listen to the rhythm
of my Sometimes I'm nothing at all.

1530
01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:30,439
You're always there when I came.
You always catch me whenever I cross

1531
01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:39,560
my heart. Because it's true.
I'm nothing with that you across my heart.

1532
01:54:39,920 --> 01:55:09,960
This is true. I'm nothing with
that. Without your Sometimes, I'm

1533
01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:17,920
nothing at all. You're always be
when I come. You always catch me

1534
01:55:18,159 --> 01:55:30,720
whenever I have for cross my heart, because it's true. I'm nothing with

1535
01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:40,520
that you cross my heart. Because
it's true. I'm nothing with that you

1536
01:55:42,279 --> 01:55:50,640
cross my heart. That is true. I'm nothing with you cross my heart

1537
01:55:50,920 --> 01:56:36,399
because it's true. I'm nothing with
that. Found your feel Can you hear

1538
01:56:36,920 --> 01:56:50,920
mad to feel feel? Can you
hear mad to feel up? To feel

1539
01:56:50,960 --> 01:57:34,079
up? Can you hear mad to
feel? Can you him? Hey Mac

1540
01:57:34,159 --> 01:57:39,279
Maloney fans, this is Pistol Pete
and I'm sitting here with the one and

1541
01:57:39,479 --> 01:57:43,760
only Mac Maloney. Hi Mac paid
Now, Mac, You've got a new

1542
01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:47,399
book out called How to Dump a
Body at Sea and Not get Caught that

1543
01:57:47,479 --> 01:57:51,560
you wrote with our pal, famous
crime novelist Mark Zappula. How did this

1544
01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:55,840
whole thing come about? Well,
Mac and I have this mutual friend that

1545
01:57:55,880 --> 01:57:58,800
we go out having ados with every
once in a while, and he had

1546
01:57:58,840 --> 01:58:01,319
the same twenty ories that he would
tell us kind of over and over again,

1547
01:58:01,359 --> 01:58:03,199
and at some point I said,
you know, we should write these

1548
01:58:03,239 --> 01:58:06,560
down, and we did and it
turned into a book. It's such a

1549
01:58:06,600 --> 01:58:09,840
crazy title. How'd you come up
with it? Well, kind of the

1550
01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:12,960
same thing we're in about. Talking
to this friend of ours one night and

1551
01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:15,279
he just said, you know how
to get rid of a body sea?

1552
01:58:15,319 --> 01:58:17,720
And I cant taught, And of
course we didn't know, and so he

1553
01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:20,479
told us. And the secret is
in the book. But I can say

1554
01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:25,920
that it involves a lot of chainling
fence and some crabs. Al Mac,

1555
01:58:26,119 --> 01:58:29,079
you gave me an advanced copy of
the book, and like I said before,

1556
01:58:29,119 --> 01:58:31,039
it's one of the funniest things I've
ever read. It reminded me of

1557
01:58:31,079 --> 01:58:34,720
the Sopranos if the Sopranos had a
laugh track. Thanks Peter. But it

1558
01:58:34,880 --> 01:58:41,039
also gives you instructions on how to
do some pretty shady stuff stuff not exactly

1559
01:58:41,159 --> 01:58:44,560
legal. Well, yeah, the
book is about the true life adventures of

1560
01:58:44,560 --> 01:58:47,920
a druvenile Delinklin, growing up in
Boston in the late nineteen eighties, so

1561
01:58:48,079 --> 01:58:50,880
you get a lot of the inside
stuff like the best way to steal a

1562
01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:55,199
ca, best way to burn a
caa, how to make fake ideas,

1563
01:58:55,359 --> 01:58:58,399
things like that. But in one
chapter you actually tell people how to turn

1564
01:58:58,439 --> 01:59:02,359
an old, broken down Toyota into
brand new Rolls Royce in five easy steps

1565
01:59:02,560 --> 01:59:05,640
and it actually works. Yeah.
I know it sounds crazy. I didn't

1566
01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:09,119
believe it until I saw the proof, but yes, it actually works.

1567
01:59:09,199 --> 01:59:11,960
Now, one last question. There's
a lot of laughs in the book,

1568
01:59:12,039 --> 01:59:16,560
but also a lot of pretty crazy
stuff legal and illegal. Is it really

1569
01:59:16,760 --> 01:59:21,640
all true? It's really all true, but on the advice of a publisher,

1570
01:59:21,800 --> 01:59:25,640
they've asked us not to say a
thing beyond that for legal reason.

1571
01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:29,560
But yes, it is all true. Well, thanks Mac. That's how

1572
01:59:29,600 --> 01:59:32,880
to dump a body at sea and
not get caught, the Al Ferrari story

1573
01:59:33,079 --> 01:59:38,560
by Mac and crime writer Mark Zippula. Get it today on Amazon.