WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:04.839 Have on the floor for a vote in the US Senate the final James Langor 2 00:00:05.000 --> 00:00:11.240 from Oklahoma bill that would define what new powers the president might have to evict 3 00:00:11.519 --> 00:00:15.199 from this country. So many illegal aliens will have any impact. Of course, 4 00:00:15.240 --> 00:00:18.480 the headline number, according to leaks, which may or may not be 5 00:00:18.559 --> 00:00:23.480 accurate, is that there's a five thousand dollars five thousand person limit per day, 6 00:00:23.960 --> 00:00:27.239 and at that point then certain powers are triggered. Five thousand a day 7 00:00:27.239 --> 00:00:31.440 of illego aliens is almost two million every year. That doesn't count so many 8 00:00:31.480 --> 00:00:36.240 others and the numbers USA has been on this issue for many years in James 9 00:00:36.280 --> 00:00:41.079 Massa is with numbers usay and James Massa, Welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. 10 00:00:41.079 --> 00:00:44.520 And from the speculation that we have today, can you tell the American 11 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:51.320 people why the Oklahoma legislature sanctioned their own Republican senator? What do they know 12 00:00:51.399 --> 00:00:56.079 that many do not? Well, it's always good to be here, Bill, 13 00:00:56.280 --> 00:00:59.920 and I would say that what they know others do know, which is 14 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:04.200 that what Langford has proposed and what he continues to negotiate is completely at odds 15 00:01:04.200 --> 00:01:08.400 with what the House has already passed in regards to to during the border it's 16 00:01:08.519 --> 00:01:14.799 actually codifying the border crisis. And it's not just Langford on this. This 17 00:01:14.879 --> 00:01:21.719 is actually McConnell driven Langford bill, and so he Langford's catching the grief fort 18 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:25.159 and you absolutely should be, because the things that are coming out that are 19 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:30.280 being rumored or are just atrocities. However, who's really driving this behind it 20 00:01:30.319 --> 00:01:32.799 is McConnell, which is kind of said, I mean, he looks like 21 00:01:32.840 --> 00:01:37.200 the bottom of my right foot. But secondly, he's completely lost his way. 22 00:01:37.319 --> 00:01:41.239 Senator Ran Paul, who's a frequent guest here, he will not speak 23 00:01:41.239 --> 00:01:45.879 ill of a fellow senator. But Mitch McConnell is a reflection of Chuck Schumer. 24 00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:51.200 And so I would imagine that the bill is doa in the House of 25 00:01:51.280 --> 00:01:57.000 Representatives, but explain what the crisis is for those who don't pay a lot 26 00:01:57.040 --> 00:01:59.799 of attention. And James, you and I are connected to what's happening in 27 00:02:00.280 --> 00:02:02.959 the world, what's happening in current events. But the average American often wakes 28 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:07.760 up the day before the election and says, is tomorrow the election day? 29 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:10.439 November fifth? Or is it next week? They live their lives in good 30 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:14.800 and simple ways, work, care for their families, give charitably of their 31 00:02:14.800 --> 00:02:17.560 time, and they simply live their life. But most don't know. Most 32 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:23.000 Americans don't pay attention to this. Why I'll ask James Master this question. 33 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:27.280 Why is there a crisis now in the southern border that the mainstream media has 34 00:02:27.319 --> 00:02:32.919 just recently discovered. Well, it's unavoidable of what's going on on the southern 35 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:39.000 border. Just in December, there were three hundred and two thousand illegal apprehensions 36 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:44.080 on the southern border alone, three hundred and twenty seven thousand throughout the United 37 00:02:44.120 --> 00:02:47.000 States, completely increuting the courts of entry of people who have tried to enter 38 00:02:47.039 --> 00:02:53.039 into the United States illegally. Even back in the Obama era, eighty two 39 00:02:53.120 --> 00:02:57.280 percent of those people were turned around and sent back. In the Trump area 40 00:02:57.479 --> 00:03:01.039 is even higher. But in the Biden Mine illustration, over eighty five percent 41 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:06.000 of those people are let into the United States, released into the interior, 42 00:03:06.240 --> 00:03:09.560 and given a job permit. So the impact is enormous on our nation, 43 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:14.599 both in jobs as well as on the stress of the communities, everything from 44 00:03:14.639 --> 00:03:19.360 healthcare to education and on and on. And I live in Cincinnati, Ohio. 45 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:23.759 We have three hundred and five thousand residents in the city of Cincinnati. 46 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:28.719 So one can imagine in one month we had the same number of people illegally 47 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:32.759 enter the country as live in the city of Cincinnati and over continuing at that 48 00:03:32.919 --> 00:03:38.159 pace, the number normally given is eight to ten million. The past three 49 00:03:38.240 --> 00:03:42.719 years under Biden, that number is accelerating to maybe one hundred million. More 50 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:46.000 so, when Chicago, New York, Portland, LA, and Atlanta deals 51 00:03:46.039 --> 00:03:50.439 with illegal immigration, this is the tip of the spear, the tip of 52 00:03:50.439 --> 00:03:53.960 the iceberg. There's another one to two hundred million that want to come into 53 00:03:53.960 --> 00:03:59.039 this country. And address yourself to this issue. Whenever Joe Biden walks to 54 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:01.080 a helicopter, someone tries to yell questions to him. And of course he 55 00:04:01.120 --> 00:04:04.400 can't hold a news conference, he can't hold the sparre thoughts in his mind 56 00:04:04.439 --> 00:04:10.719 to issue a fungent opinion about anything because of his mental acuity lack thereof. 57 00:04:11.080 --> 00:04:15.680 But what are the two or three things that Joe Biden could do this afternoon, 58 00:04:15.719 --> 00:04:19.519 could do tonight, to do tomorrow that would absolutely fundamentally change the border 59 00:04:19.720 --> 00:04:24.439 without money coming from the Congress, because Trump did it. Trump did not 60 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:29.199 have large immigration bills that allowed him to shut down the southern border and make 61 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:31.040 it work. What could Biden do if he had the guts to do it. 62 00:04:31.199 --> 00:04:34.639 What are the two or three things that should occur. Well, one 63 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:39.360 of the first things he could do is end this catch and release policy. 64 00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:43.120 Catching release is what I just described. People come in, they're apprehended, 65 00:04:43.160 --> 00:04:46.959 then they're release into the United States. The return the remain in Mexico policy 66 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:50.680 of the Trump era is what stopped that. And it put a stop to 67 00:04:50.720 --> 00:04:56.600 over seventy five percent of the illegal incursion into the United States just by saying, 68 00:04:56.759 --> 00:04:59.480 if you come here, you're not going to be released into the United 69 00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:02.160 States. You're going to have to stay in Mexico or your country of origin 70 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:06.439 until whatever you're claiming is addressed. So that alone could be done. And 71 00:05:06.480 --> 00:05:09.959 what's in this new bill, and this is why people are so up at 72 00:05:10.040 --> 00:05:14.519 armed, what's coming out of language work, is that one of the proposals 73 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:17.560 is that they won't actually catch and release them. They will catch them and 74 00:05:17.600 --> 00:05:20.839 put them in what it is stags and have a job permit that we know 75 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:26.319 where you are. Can you imagine I do, because I see it. 76 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:30.000 Cincinnati, now, little Cincinnati has a homelessness crisis that we never have not 77 00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:33.319 had in years and what's happening. And for those in Chicago and other big 78 00:05:33.319 --> 00:05:38.040 cities, they must understand this is the tip of the iceberg. This is 79 00:05:38.240 --> 00:05:44.199 solving the problem. It's been well publicized now. These illegal aliens living at 80 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:48.319 the Roosevelt Hotel, which a few years ago was a wonderful facility in Manhattan, 81 00:05:48.560 --> 00:05:51.439 has been taken over. The six hundred and fifty rooms there have been 82 00:05:51.480 --> 00:05:57.079 taken over by Homeland Security. They pay the operator huge amounts of money, 83 00:05:57.120 --> 00:06:00.759 and they've thrown out the residents much like in a school in Brooklyn, and 84 00:06:00.839 --> 00:06:04.160 put into legal aliens. And then two cops in uniform. I spent five 85 00:06:04.240 --> 00:06:06.800 years on my TV show in New York City, and I loved it there 86 00:06:06.800 --> 00:06:10.480 with those cops, and they were tough and they were good, and they 87 00:06:10.480 --> 00:06:14.199 were in New York cops or had the crap kicked out of them by illegal 88 00:06:14.279 --> 00:06:17.040 aliens. They were trying to break up a fight and suddenly the mob turned 89 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:20.199 on the two police officers. They were kicked in the head, they were 90 00:06:20.199 --> 00:06:24.560 beaten, they were punched, and one of those cops is going to have 91 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:28.040 traumatic brain injuries. The other one is injured and he was released from the 92 00:06:28.040 --> 00:06:31.920 hospital, but Nonetheless, when they got to court that afternoon, more cops 93 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:34.959 showed up. They arrested the perpetrators. It's all on video. It's not 94 00:06:35.000 --> 00:06:41.040 a question did this happen or did not happen. And the prosecutor in New 95 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:45.759 York City did not request a bond of any type. And the judge should 96 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:47.759 have stepped in and said there will be a bond in there because the fear 97 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:50.519 of flight. In other words, lock them up for beating up a cop, 98 00:06:50.600 --> 00:06:54.560 committing a felony on a cop. Instead of that, they gave them 99 00:06:54.600 --> 00:06:57.759 no bond. They walked out the door. There was reporting the last few 100 00:06:57.839 --> 00:07:00.199 days that they are on their way to California on bus to go back to 101 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:05.439 Mexico. And do you think sometimes a small incident speaks to larger problems. 102 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:10.240 Would you anticipate in the days ahead that'll be a reawakening of what New York 103 00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:15.759 City should do with illegal migration or not. Well, I believe it's going 104 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:19.800 to be ignored again. The New York City has been ignoring the impact of 105 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:24.800 illegal immigration in their city and on the citizens of New York, on the 106 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:28.360 citizens of the United States for a long time, and they're continuing to do 107 00:07:28.439 --> 00:07:31.079 so. What they're asking for is more money to be able to process them 108 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:35.439 and somehow house them more effectively. So the taxpayers across the United States are 109 00:07:35.480 --> 00:07:40.000 helping out New York. You know, the biggest tragedy in this whole effort 110 00:07:40.040 --> 00:07:46.079 by Langford and McConnell is just trying to reset underneath the Biden administration what is 111 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:49.839 normal. It is not normal for a sovereign nation to have five thousand people 112 00:07:49.879 --> 00:07:54.560 coming across their border illegally, to be able to show up in New York 113 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:59.040 or Chicago or any other city USA and be able to perpetrate the types of 114 00:07:59.040 --> 00:08:03.959 actions that yours just describing right now on law abiding citizens and the law enforcement 115 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:07.040 people who are here for us in the blue. So it is a new 116 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:11.920 normal. They're trying to say that five thousand's just fine. Zero is what 117 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:18.120 a foreign nation should expect from its illegal immigration. We need to have immigration, 118 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:20.600 we need to have it open in a way that's positive for this nation's 119 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:24.319 interests, but it doesn't have to be illegal. We're two thirds of what's 120 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:28.519 going on. It's just coming across the border and impacting people in our cities 121 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:33.360 the way you've just described at numbers USA dot org. You have a study 122 00:08:33.399 --> 00:08:37.480 about the environmental concerns, the Piedmont Spraul study. It says the following that 123 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:43.000 population growth in the region of North Carolina South Carolina is driving sprawl eighty six 124 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:48.000 percent of the loss of open space per capital and consumption is responsible for the 125 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:54.960 other environmental endorsements of US population stabilization. I would think liberals care greatly about 126 00:08:54.960 --> 00:09:01.360 the environment as I do. What impact on these don't know ten million, 127 00:09:01.480 --> 00:09:05.799 twenty million, fifty million will have on just the issue of the environment and 128 00:09:05.840 --> 00:09:11.200 what that means for highways and pollution. Speak to that number about liberals should 129 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:13.360 be concerned with this, but they're not. Well, you know, the 130 00:09:13.399 --> 00:09:18.120 members of NumbersUSA dot com and anyone can join at our website Numbers USA dot 131 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:24.399 com. It does speak to unified focus on the impact of numbers on the 132 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:28.639 environment as well as on law and order, as well as on jobs and 133 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:31.279 wages. I have people who are really quite liberal on the left of many 134 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:35.000 many issues, but are in absolute agreement that we need to secure the border 135 00:09:35.200 --> 00:09:39.320 and we need to have a sensible immigration policy. And I have people who 136 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:41.200 are very far in the right who have the exact same agreement. This is 137 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:48.000 one of the few areas that Americans across the ideological spectrum are in agreement on 138 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:52.000 that we need to reduce the impact of illegal immigration into our nation and there 139 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:56.919 is environmental impact. The sprawl studies are available. You can do spraw studies 140 00:09:56.960 --> 00:09:58.919 dot com and you'll be able to find more and more studies. We do 141 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:03.519 one for a variety of different states. We just released Texas, we just 142 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:07.720 released Idaho. We're going to be doing well on Yellowstone because the impact is 143 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:11.720 even occurring in our national parks at this point in time. So there's great 144 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:15.879 sovereignty in our nation and as great resources, part of it is our environment. 145 00:10:16.080 --> 00:10:18.559 It needs to be protected as well. I always say follow the money 146 00:10:18.559 --> 00:10:22.360 and follow the power. Twenty thirty is going to be a census, and 147 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:28.679 because the constitution counts persons and not citizens. Is part of the goal of 148 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:33.600 the liberal Democratic Party, not the Democratic Party of our fathers and mothers, 149 00:10:33.639 --> 00:10:39.080 but rather the current Democratic Party. Twenty thirty is coming what in six years. 150 00:10:39.559 --> 00:10:43.440 Persons are counted for population census and not citizens. So the more the 151 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:52.039 Democrats put citizens slash persons in California, Illinois, all the Pennsylvania, New 152 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:56.600 York that's going to give them more power in the Congress because states that have 153 00:10:56.639 --> 00:11:01.679 a responsible approach toward immigrations, such as Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana, Florida, 154 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:07.440 and Texas, they're going to lose representation in the Congress, while these 155 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:11.759 high population states will increase. So do you think possibly the goal here by 156 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:16.240 the Democrats, And you might add James mass up numbers USA At ten or 157 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:22.039 fifteen years ago, when Barack Hussein Obama was in office, he spoke on 158 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:26.480 immigration similar to the way you and I speak today. It must be stopped. 159 00:11:26.639 --> 00:11:30.159 People can't come in the country illegally, is what Obama and Biden said, 160 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:33.039 and that's changed completely. Do you think there's a political motive here of 161 00:11:33.120 --> 00:11:39.360 the progressive Marxist Democrats to have more and more persons living in various states so 162 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:43.799 they have more power in the House of Representatives. I think the short answer 163 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:48.159 is yes. I don't know if they will achieve that objective birth the outcome 164 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:50.679 they expect will be what they anticipate, but I think that is one of 165 00:11:50.720 --> 00:11:54.799 the objectives. Its effects on the local area when people are trying to provide 166 00:11:56.039 --> 00:12:00.799 driver's licenses, which might allow them to be able to vote in local it's 167 00:12:00.840 --> 00:12:03.840 when you have communities such as our nation's capital saying anyone who's been resident in 168 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:09.639 the last thirty days can vote in locial elections. It absolutely is impacting the 169 00:12:09.759 --> 00:12:15.159 voter profile. And of course how the different districts are arranged based on the 170 00:12:15.159 --> 00:12:18.320 population, so there will be that impact. The interesting thing though, is 171 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:20.159 is Jim Robbo is one of our vice presidents and been involved in this for 172 00:12:20.200 --> 00:12:24.960 twenty seven years, wrote a book recently called Political Migrants, The Hispanic Voters 173 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:28.279 on the Move, And what we find is is for Hispanic voters, now, 174 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:31.519 these are US citizens who are naturalized, who have been here for a 175 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:37.600 generation or two. They have moved from being a democratic Republican bloc to almost 176 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:41.200 forty seven to forty nine percent of them voted more in a Republican orientation in 177 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:48.519 the last election midterm elections. So those who are coming to us from the 178 00:12:48.759 --> 00:12:52.639 Southern hemisphere in Central America who are not criminals, because there are criminals coming 179 00:12:52.639 --> 00:12:56.799 in, there are terrorists coming in. But those who are just people coming 180 00:12:56.840 --> 00:12:58.960 here for economic purposes, in a generation or two, they're going to be 181 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:03.840 voting in the Republican orientation. They want that border closed as well. One 182 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:09.840 of the strongest voices today is the Hispanic US citizen saying, no, Moss, 183 00:13:09.039 --> 00:13:11.840 we don't want anymore. We know what's coming in. It's not what's 184 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:16.240 good for America. And I'm an American, so I think that there's going 185 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:18.720 to be an unexpected outcome of that. But in the short term, yes, 186 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:22.279 redistricting can occur, and it would occur based on the population of where 187 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:26.799 the where people are in the United States. Now, lastly, let's say 188 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:31.159 November the fifth of this year, James Massive NumbersUSA dot org. Things go 189 00:13:31.279 --> 00:13:37.639 awry, whether it's Michelle Obama or whether it's Gavin Newsom, or whether it's 190 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:41.679 Kamala Harris, or whether it's Joe Biden is re elected or elected, and 191 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:46.960 we go through another beginning in twenty twenty five, another four to eight year 192 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:52.000 cycle of open borders. That may be good for business for Numbers USA and 193 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:54.519 people contributing, But the fact of the matter is, let's jump at about 194 00:13:54.519 --> 00:14:00.559 seven to ten years from now, and the policies of Joe Biden have continued 195 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:05.720 to operate into the twenty thirties. What does America look like? Well, 196 00:14:05.759 --> 00:14:09.639 America doesn't look like America today. In fact, this is one of the 197 00:14:09.639 --> 00:14:16.120 most significant social changes to our nation that is occurring. And in fact, 198 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:18.879 it's interesting. One hundred years ago, in nineteen twenty four, there was 199 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:24.679 an immigration law that was placed and it basically stopped immigration, and it had 200 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:28.919 a number that was correct a low number of people who allowed legally in the 201 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:31.559 United States, but it basically excluded people from all different types of nations, 202 00:14:31.559 --> 00:14:35.159 so it was very discriminatory from a national level, but it had the number 203 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:39.840 right. In the nineteen sixties, we had the reverse of that, where 204 00:14:39.879 --> 00:14:41.960 they got the people right, where they opened it up that people could come 205 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:45.840 to us from any nation and add the value that we want immigrants to be 206 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:48.960 able to add. But they opened up the number and it dramatically grew. 207 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:52.759 On the legal side, it dramatically grew from two hundred and sixty thousand to 208 00:14:52.759 --> 00:14:58.360 almost a million legal immigrants coming in to the United States. Those are fifty 209 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:01.360 year blocks. We stand today at an opportunity to get it right, where 210 00:15:01.399 --> 00:15:05.600 we get the number right, which is a lower number than what's currently today, 211 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:09.279 probably lower than a million legal immigrants, let alone to two million illegal 212 00:15:09.320 --> 00:15:13.600 immigrants, and we are able to bring in the best and brightest and those 213 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:16.679 people who can actually add value to our nation. Those two things need to 214 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:22.039 both happen. That's what immigration reform would truly be. That's what a sensible 215 00:15:22.039 --> 00:15:26.559 immigration policy is. And it allows for the ability to still respond to acute 216 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:30.919 issues throughout the world. It allows for us to be able to address short 217 00:15:31.000 --> 00:15:35.120 labor if we actually have it, but it most importantly protects the United States 218 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:37.799 citizens so that what's coming into the nation actually benefits us as a nation. 219 00:15:39.320 --> 00:15:43.279 And that's a sensible immigration policy if we have the opportunity now to do it. 220 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:46.240 But we could find ourselves way off that mark. What a novel thoughts. 221 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:52.600 The words on the Statue of Liberty in the nineteenth century do not apply 222 00:15:52.759 --> 00:15:58.159 in the twenty first century, and we must change. James Massive NumbersUSA dot 223 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:00.440 org. All the facts. Information is there. People can join. And 224 00:16:00.519 --> 00:16:03.440 now once again, thank you for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. We're 225 00:16:03.440 --> 00:16:07.279 warning the American people. Let's see what happens in November. James Massa, 226 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:11.600 thank you very much. Thank you. Bill. Let's continue. At First 227 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:17.440 Financial Bank, we have five percent apy on money market accounts and high rates 228 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:18.039 on CDs.