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have some amazing news to share with
everyone here today, and here to share

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it with everyone is the writer and
producer of our hit movie jfk X Jay

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Widener. Welcome back to the show. How's it going, my friend?

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That's going really good? How you
doing doing great? It's snowing here.

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It's snowing and raining, wonderful.
Big snowflakes too, like half dollars size

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snowflakes. Yeah, it to Washington
State. Kind of snow, very wet,

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not like an usual Colorado's about roads
are super super slick. So what's

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the news? Jay? Give us
the t because this is what I've been

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seeing in every interview we've done together. On every show that we've done together

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about our film JFKX, we open
our movie JFKX with why hasn't all of

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the JFK files been released? And
I said it since the beginning that the

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reason it's not because of you or
advanced technology, or that the CIA or

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the MOB was involved, and of
course they were, but it's because of

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what we have in our film.
So go ahead and let everybody know what

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you know. Yeah, I heard
from a person who's well connected. I

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don't want to say his name,
but pretty much everybody knows who he is

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that Trump had seen our film and
he told the person that told our friend

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that that's what I saw in the
files. Basically that was his sentence.

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That's what I saw in the files. So in the Trump file, in

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the JFK files that Trump decided not
to release, he saw what's in our

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film. And it makes you wonder
if the persecution he's up against right now

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isn't somehow related. And because here's
the thing. When they rated mar A

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Lago, they were looking for something
specific he had taken specifically, and they

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didn't find it, and you know, you got to wonder, what was

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it? Right? And you know, if I was president, I would

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take you know, if I had
access to the files, and I could

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take him, and he could because
he has that job as a job of

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president, he could take files on
with him. I would take the most

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important files with me, you know, the ones that I could release if

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I ever need to, if I
get into legal trouble, say right,

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So, you know, I think
there is some kind of relationship between it.

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I think that they were looking for
something, and I think it had

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to do with the JFK thing,
because right after the mar A Lago raid,

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Biden came out, what with ten
days maybe and said, no,

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we're never releasing these files ever.
So you know, there's a time thing

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between the two events. So I
don't know. I think that's what it

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is. And by the way,
and I'm going to try to have this

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guy on my show reality Check on
YouTube. I got an email from a

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guy who's knows a guy in Dallas
who was a JFK researcher who wrote a

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book and made a documentary and based
on the exact thing that our movie's about.

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So if somebody else saw is what
I'm trying to say, and that

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makes me happy. That doesn't make
me sad. I want more people who've

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seen it to come forward because because
it's so obvious, that's why, and

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it's they're coming. But I knew
somewhere in the ether that there had been

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someone somewhere. Maybe I'd heard about
it or something. I don't know,

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but I knew somehow there was somebody
in the past who must have seen this

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and saw it went oh my god, this is what's going on, and

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you know, and this guy supposedly
wrote a book, but nothing neither got

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released, the book nor the documentary
ever got released. But this person is

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trying to dig up both for me
so I can see it and read it.

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That would be incredible, and then
also tracking down what happened to him

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and figuring out the timeframe of when
it was made, when it was written,

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when the documentary was made. Yep. Really interesting to see why it

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didn't get released where the person is
now, because uh, that might be

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what we're looking at in our future
too, but I don't think so.

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I think it's the cats out of
the bag. Everything is all right.

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And it's interesting too because if this
is true and the former president saw our

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film and confirmed it, I mean
that speaks volumes to what we've created and

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what we've done, and it just
proves that, you know, that we've

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been correct and all the people that
don't like it, or all the people

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that think that it's nonsense and that
we're just making stuff up, like watch

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the movie, see the evidence that
we provide. We provide you evidence,

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We show you what's going on,
and there's there's things about the documentary that

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you just cannot deny. Yeah,
and you know it's it's just the version

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of the Bruner film that we show
is just so superior to every other one.

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I was watching clips from JFK by
Oliver Stone the other day, and

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it's much superior to what's in the
Oliver Stone film, which is thirty five

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millimeter and you know, twenty million
dollar budget and all of that. Yet

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our version is much better. And
the thing is is those crucial two seconds

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between right after Kennedy comes out from
behind the freeway signing, he does this

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funny thing and the hit. These
two seconds that he's in that car are

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the longest two seconds in cinema history, and Oliver Stone cuts him out.

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But it's interesting because I was talking
to Seanstone, Oliver's son, about a

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week ago and he saw it and
he said, yeah, it could be.

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It could be. So he said, so Sean Seanstone seen it.

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Yeah, he saw the film and
he said that very well could be.

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He said. You know, he
didn't argue with it. He could have

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if he wanted to, but he
didn't. All I said was, what

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did you think? He says it
could be? And he's a filmmaker,

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right, He's a filmmaker. You
sat. He was on the set of

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many of Oliver Stone's films, so
he saw how they are being made and

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those are the people that are going
to actually be the ones that see it

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and say it with authority. And
you know, I was on I was

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on Carry Cassidy's show three or four
weeks ago, and she liked the film

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a lot and she said, she
said, only a filmmaker would see this,

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and I said, yeah, I
think the best people to deconstruct staged

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events are going to be filmmakers.
And you know, theater directors probably would

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be pretty good, but filmmakers better
because we know all the techniques. But

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what's important about a filmmaker's opinion of
an event is because filmmakers know there's certain

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things you have to do before you
do you film an event, and certain

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things you have to do after you
film an event, And if those things

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occur in a real life event,
then you're like, wait a minute here,

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right, you know, like they
brought you know, there's a tragic

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event at a McDonald's or something,
but the police department was already ready before

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the event happened, right, that
kind of thing. So that's the thing,

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and that's what I think, the
power that a filmmaker will have and

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viewing these things. I think that's
what happened with me with the moon Landings

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and JKA and so you know,
and there's another thing that we've never talked

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about, and I've actually really just
started thinking about it recently. There's another

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thing in these staged events that no
one ever mentions, and that is the

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the spectacular nature of the event.
Right. It's like things in real life

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aren't really that spectacular, but in
nine to eleven and JFK and the moon

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Landing, it's spectacular. Everything is
spectacular, larger than life, bigger than

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life exactly, and it's just not
the way it is. And I always

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point out, you know, the
thing with that that no one can deny,

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with the Apollo moon landings. We
went there six times. And that

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is this. If you watch Picca
show or a series, let's say Walking

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Dead, If you watch Walking Dead
the first five seasons or whatever, there's

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clearly an improvement in production values.
I mean, it is so obvious,

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but a decline in storytelling though that's
long run. Shows. What you do

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is the crew learns to work together, you know, for after two or

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three years of working together, man, they're just they're houmming along, right,

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they know exactly what everybody wants and
expects, and and everything just gets

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better and better and better as a
technical level. And that's what happened with

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the moon landing. Everything got technically
better. The seth got better, the

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lighting got better, the scene got
every scene got bigger and bigger and bigger,

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and it was clearly there was a
learning curve and they were learning how

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to do it, and they h
moon landing got more larger and more theatrical,

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more larger background landscapes, and more
ridiculous stuff done by the astronauts on

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the moon that didn't seem to mean
anything like rolling around in circles in a

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land rover. It doesn't go anywhere
like what was that all about, and

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so you know, that's that's that's
one of the things that I think they're

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they're going to stop with these staged
events. I think that JKA actually may

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have a lot to do with that
too. By the way, I think

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they're going to stop. I think
they're going to go. You know what

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they're getting. When Jay was young, you know, there was maybe five

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hundred filmmakers. Today there's fifty thousand, five hundred thousand, something like that.

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So there's thousands of people that know
how to make films now know all

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the tricks and gimmicks and are now
watching and they want to be the ones

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who see the scene in the in
the curtain. And so, you know,

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I when you couple that now awakening
with the fact that the movie business

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and the entertainment business and the news
business are all going out of business at

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the same time, it's a good
going to be a bad situation for them,

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but a really good situation for young
filmmakers. Just gonna be make a

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good film. You're gonna make it. And and we proved that with you

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K. So any filmmakers out there, you can make money and making films.

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You know, you just have to
do it the right way. And

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and be bold. This is the
thing that I can't emphasize enough. If

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you're gonna make a film, a
theatrical film, a documentary or whatever,

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be bold, go for it all
the way. If you if you're making

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a horror film, do things that
scare the living crap out of you.

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All right, that's what you have
to do. And and and you know

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what's his name, Zack Snyder.
Zack Snyder. He's made a couple of

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good films, all right, He's
made a bunch of films. But you

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got to give the guy credit.
You know, he is the most exuberant

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filmmaker around, and well he picks
a lot of turkey scripts, but when

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he wants to turn it on,
he can really turn it on. And

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so I give him, you know, a minus just because I give him

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such a high grade, just for
his exuberance. His films aren't extremely intelligent,

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but you could just see that there's
this maniac behind the camera. And

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I like that, you know,
yeah, I do too. And it's

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interesting that you bring up these these
other documentary filmmakers and people and people making

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these UFO documentaries, right that that
don't tell you anything, right, It

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just regurgitates old information. They don't
give you anything new there, And there's

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more answers at the end of it
than and all the information we've already had

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and already know about. It doesn't
really make any sense to me. And

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speaking of people filmmakers analyzing other footage, the new UFO documentary on to the

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UFO Revolution with Jeremy Corbel, I
mean, it says right underneath his name,

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it says filmmaker. And there's this
whole section of this documentary where they're

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talking about for like ten minutes about
why all of the UFO footage and extraterrestrial

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supposed extraterrestrial footage is blurred, and
not one person brought up the fact.

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None of these filmmakers brought up the
fact that maybe a lot of this footage

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is blurred so that something can be
superimposed into the footage. And I was

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like, as a filmmaker, that's
the first thing that I'm going to think

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of. That's the only reason that
anything has ever blurred like that is to

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insert something into the footage that was
never there to begin with. Yeah,

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it reminds you of a cartoon I
saw the other day. A family of

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bigfoot are opening up their photographs and
their trip out in the woods, and

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the first kid looks at hey,
this picture's worry and the other hey,

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this picture is worry too, And
then the father says, how come every

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time we take a picture of ourselves
it's worried? So, yeah, I

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know what you mean. Uh yeah, And you know, I got a

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real bone to pick with these guys. I hate to say it, but

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you know, uh, they're there. Here's the thing that I I would

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rule that when I make films and
documentaries, I mean that I make sure

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I avoid I never say these kinds
of things. Is it possible that this?

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Could it be? That? This? Right, that's what those guys

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do, and it drives me out
of my mind. And that's the engine

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alien's way of doing it. Yeah, that's what they do. You get

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away with murder, You just get
away with everything. He said, Well,

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could be, so, I could
could it be that strawberries are purple

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and green? I mean, it's
like it's so stupid, and yeah,

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anything could be if you want it
to be. I guess so I have

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a real bone to pick with those
kinds of filmmaking. But I was reading

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today something really interesting. I don't
know if you know about the Titanic and

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the real story behind the Titanic,
but that they switched out the Holts and

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it's a different ship or is it
a different thing or is it the bankers

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that were killed on the Titanic.
I know a little bit. I'm going

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to conclude. This is really crazy. I'm going to conclude. And I

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lost two relatives on the Titanic,
George Widner and his son who donated all

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of his books to the Harvard Library, which is another weird story because the

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guy was twenty three and he had
a fifty thousand book collection and he told

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his mom that when I die,
give it to Harvard. What kind of

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twenty three year old tells their mom
that. I mean, you know,

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you know, you know, you
think you're gonna die when you're twenty three.

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But anyway, it may very well
be that nothing sank that day.

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We know for sure icebergs can't get
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never been another ship ever hit an
iceberg. Ships go, that's one of

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the main shipping lines. There's never
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it the thing the reason I say
that is the most curious thing that I

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read on it that I've ever read
on the Titanic is that three and a

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half years after it sank, a
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This is the report of Baltimore Son
teen eighteen. And he met Jack

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Smith, captain Jack Smith, the
captain of the Titanic. He was walking

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down the street and he'd worked with
them for seventeen years on various ships and

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things. And he said, hey, Jack, how you doing? And

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Jack turned around and said his name, said hi, party, how are

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you? And he said I'm fine, and he said my jaw dropped open.

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And Jack turned around and walked as
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So that to me is very curious. You know that the captain of

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the Titanic was seen alive and actually
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a few years after the ordeal.
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you know, because JP Morgan owned
the fleet right, and if it wasn't

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maybe an insurance scam of some kind. You know how all the planes of

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nine to eleven only had like thirty
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the planes were full at all,
even though it was rush hour going from

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major city to major city. You
know how suspicious that is and all that,

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right, Well, the Titanic the
same way it had. I think

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enough enough beds are for five thousand
people, but they only ad well,

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they can't agree how many people were
on the Titanic. They can't agree how

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many people died. They can't agree
on a lot of there's a lot of

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weird stories. One of the rescue
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they said that they only picked up
the rich people. They left the poor

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people. And I'm like, okay, how do you tell you get the

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guy with the top hat? You
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on the water now for like twenty
hours, and every story just gets more

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and more, and so I really
don't know what happened. They may have

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switched out the ships, like that's
the main story is that they've the Olympus

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got damaged when he got hit by
a navy boat, and then they switched

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it out and made it the Titanic
and then purposely sank it or ran it

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into an iceberg or whatever you want
to think, And which is a pretty

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low life thing to do to kill, you know, tempting to kill like

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eighteen hundred people or whatever, but
just for insurance, just because you don't

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want to pay for the boat.
But it was JP Morgan. He was

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a total shithead. So yeah,
all the people that opposed the Federal Reserve

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was on the Titanic. Yeah,
relatives, just a coincidence. Yeah,

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my relative. He was the head
of a Philadelphia bank, George Widener,

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he died. In fact, he
had the party for the captain supposedly right

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before the ship hit the iceberg,
and a lot of people said that George

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Weidner had given the captain too much
wine and that may have been a cause

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for why he was making poor decisions. I say, ah, my relatives,

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innocent, it's the captain's fault.
Yeah, that's really interesting. I

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mean there would be a log,
right, they would have to have a

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log for a lot of people that
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right, you have to. But
all the newspaper accounts at the time give

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you different numbers. So it's very
curious, not wildly varying numbers, but

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you know they're off by fifty,
you know, hundreds, a couple of

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hundred on each side. So it's
just curious as to why there's such because

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they have to keep a manifest so
it's like, what hell, And so

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it's just a really weird The Titanic
is the strangest thing of all, you

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know, And and James Cameron made
a film cover up what was going on

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and to make sure that it was
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we think it is, with Leonardo
DiCaprio and all of that, but it

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isn't anything like that. And then
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I watched the other film that about
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a pretty good nineteen fifty eight black
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And as I'm watching the film,
I'm like, well, wait a

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minute, how would you know that
these things actually happened? Because the boats

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had already been loaded off. Everybody
left on the boats is there is going

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to die. And then you see
pictures of the boats that are taken by

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the rescue ship and the boats were
only twenty five thirty percent full. I'

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say, wait a minute, you
left John Astor, one of the richest

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guys in the world. He could
have gotten on this boat, but he

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didn't because he's going to die because
you know, he's just that valiant guy,

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you know, who's going to die
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And so there's like the whole thing
just starts looking more and more fake

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as I look at it. And
the last thing I'll say is that there's

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a ship that was used in World
War Two to ferry troops around and minus

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one smoke stack. And where that
smokestack is there's a raised deck. It

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looks exactly like the Titanic, exactly
so. And it's called the Visor.

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I can't remember what the name of
the boat is, but it was in

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Germany, it was in uh It
was moored in Germany and used by the

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Germans in World War War One.
So you know, it's just just more

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proof that what really this is about. I wanted to say this in a

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bunch of shows that people have asked
me to be on lately about all this

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is. What we have to understand
is that when the the Mafia was let

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back into England in sixteen sixty five
by Oliver Cromwell and they started the East

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India Trading Company and burned down London
and created the banking city there and all

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this stuff that happened there. And
by the way, the reason they chose

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London is because you had to go
down the Thames River, so you could

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create a gauntlet with cannons and blow
anybody out of the water that was coming

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to steal your money. Right.
And but they went to the Elizabethan Theater,

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the Globe Theater that's in London,
right. These mafia people would go

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there for entertainment, and they saw
theater and they're realize, hey, we

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can weaponize this stuff. We can
take over whole empires by faking it,

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by creating fake people and fake situations, and and and and and and and

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it's all been theater and it works
because nobody's expecting it. You're not expecting

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it to you know what's going on. I mean, it could happen to

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anybody. It could happen to you
walking down the street, right, so

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you could pull a trick on you. You wouldn't know what to do,

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what's going on? How would you
react? And so it's a it was

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a very ingenious uh thing to do
to gain control and rest control and the

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Youth Theater. And that's what's still
going on today because they're still theater.

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I think that that's been a big
part of the degeneralization of our society and

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the reason that no one wants to
help people or do anything for people in

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public because they're afraid that they're being
pranked or they're afraid that something is going

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on from all these viral videos and
people doing pranks on people, and I

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mean, there's all kinds of stuff
like that, and I think that that

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is taking us away from our humanity
because it used to be. I mean,

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I wasn't born till the nineties,
but just the difference between being in

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the nineties and remembering how things were
then, and it was even different in

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the eighties and the sixties, seventies
and then back in the sixties, right,

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But it's changed so much just in
twenty four years since the nineties that

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it's really unbelievable. It's like this
destabilization, this demoralization of people, and

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a lot of that has been largely
part two the Internet and social media.

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It's disconnected us. But do you
remember I was thinking about this earlier in

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regards to like TV and movies and
stuff and how they they didn't really have

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to report on anything that had any
kind of substance to it. I don't

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know if you remember this but back
in like the mid two thousands, it

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may have been on the History Channel, but I think it was also shown

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on regular mainstream TV because I remember
watching it where they had this little rover

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and they were trying to figure out
what was inside of the shafts of the

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Great Pyramid of Giza. Do you
remember that? Yeah? Yeah, And

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they made this huge series about it, and every episode was building up the

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suspense, like what are they going
to find? One episode, the rover

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got stuck in some dirt in the
middle of the shaft and got caught on

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something or whatever. And then they
finally makes it to the end and it's

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just a wall, and then they
have to take the rover all the way

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back with it and then bring it
back with a drill so they could drill

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a little hole in the side of
the wall, put a camera through,

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and all you got to see was
another room or another chamber thing, and

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it just ends and it's a huge
nothing like that. That's what it's really

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all is. And I'm gonna try
and look something up really quick while while

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you comment on that, because I
think that there was another one that involved

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Heraldo Rivera and oh yeah, to
yes, Al Capone's Tomb. Yes,

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and then uh yeah, no,
that that's that's why I I don't watch

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TV because of that reality TV or
the or like Ancient Aliens, because they're

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not they never go anywhere, they
don't really tell you anything, and and

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I waste my time. And yeah, I know, I got really frustrated

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with that Ganter Brink series where they
just kept drilling and going forward in that

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stupid square tunnel, and I was
just like, really, I mean,

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and you know, it's it's getting
worse and worse. And but that's okay

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because we're gonna fill the void with
our next two films. So here it

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is, I got it right here, hold on, yes, right here.

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The Mystery of the al Capone's Vaults. The Mystery of al Capone's Vaults

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is a two hour live American television
special that was broadcast in a syndication on

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April twenty first, nineteen eighty six, What Did I Say eighty one?

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It's eighty six and hosted by Heraldo
Rivera, centered on the live opening of

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a walled off underground room in the
Lexington Hotel in Chicago, once owned by

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noted crime lord al Capone, which
turned out to be an empty turned out

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to be empty except for debris.
Thirty million viewers watched I think, if

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I'm not mistaken, this is one
of the most highly watched events in television

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history, making it the highest rated
syndicated special in history. Rivera had inadvertently

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launched a no news form of news
where instead of reporting on news, entire

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programs were about possible and hypothetical news
included in this word news channels counting down

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and hyping up the news event like
a presidential briefing. While if that does

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not tell you everything you need to
know right there in that little short article,

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then I don't know what will.
They're all gonna go away now there's

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no money left for any of that
BS, so it's all gonna go away,

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and it's the funding is going to
dry up. It's gonna be all

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low budget stuff from now on.
There'll be very few big, spectacular movies

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coming out anymore. The belt tightening
is coming. I'm gonna say at least

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one, maybe two major studios are
going to go not bankrupt, but they'll

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get bought. Disney's probably gonna get
bought by Apple or Apple's. Apple had

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made an offer. I heard like
three months ago. Then Disney's stock dropped

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by thirty percent or something, and
then Apple's like, eah, you know

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what, We'll wait and wait for
your stock to drop a little bit more

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before we give you another offer.
And and so it's it's it's going to

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be a really good thing. Yeah, a really good thing, because what

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it means is that the alternative media
us guys are going to be where everybody

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goes to. And I'll tell you
another thing. When I was out in

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Vegas at the Disclosure Fest, I
was talking to you, I don't want

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to say who it was, big
guys in our alternative community, and you

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know, people who command respect,
have written books and get a lot of

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people at their lectures and things,
and they said, hey, I watch

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your show Jay, And they go, oh, thank you. They go

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I go, yeah, I watch
your show too, and they and we

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start talking about our various YouTube shows, and we start talking about the fact

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that I began relating to them that
there's this problem that I know from my

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contacts in Hollywood that the only thing
that Hollywood is looking for right now is

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WU that's all looking. They don't
want comedy, they'll take horror. Looking

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for horror too. We'll horror and
science fiction they don't want any We're superheroes,

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they don't want any more. Comedy
comedies aren't making any money. What

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they want is WU. They want
stuff that's just on the edge, strange,

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and which is what we do.
And I thought to myself, wait

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a minute. They have done their
research. They know what people want to

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watch. So therefore, why aren't
the WU channels like me and you and

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everybody that I'm talking to at this
conference, not like wiping it out?

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Why aren't we getting like if Hollywood
is really to spend millions and millions of

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dollars on the WU, and we're
WU really getting, you know, a

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few thousand views? How can that
be? And then the second thing I

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just want to say is that at
that conference, which had about twenty two

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hundred people at it, I must
have had at least fifteen hundred people tell

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me that they watch my show.
I started thinking to myself, wait a

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minute here, and then I adding
up, it's not adding up, And

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and I think that they know that
we won't complain, and they see us

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as a giant trove of money,
and that because we're independent and small,

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we can't afford lawyers even if we
could what we find out, you know,

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they they can have to be honest
about the cooking shows. That have

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to be honest about the sports shows. You have to be honest about all

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those other shows. But with the
WU, they can take serious advantage of

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us because we're independent, because we
don't have a lot of money and everybody's

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coming to watch our stuff. So
I'm going to say this to all the

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WU creators, I think you're getting
a lot more people than you think.

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And and I also take that into
consideration for like, say like Rex Bear.

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So we've I've watched him. I
know Rex pretty well known for five

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years now, and I've watched his
numbers dropping and uh precipitously actually, And

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I'm thinking to myself, how can
Rex Bear go from like, you know,

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two hundred thousand people watching one of
his videos to eight thousand? Right,

407
00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:50.920
the videos aren't getting anywhere. He's
actor in factory. They're getting better.

408
00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:53.599
So that tells me, and I
told I've told him this, by

409
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:58.519
the way that he is getting that
many viewers, they're just taking it all.

410
00:35:59.559 --> 00:36:02.800
They're not. Yeah, it's really
strange because some of my videos Jay

411
00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:07.559
are getting the same amount of views
that I was getting when I first started

412
00:36:07.599 --> 00:36:12.320
my channel, when I had like
a thousand people subscribed to me. It's

413
00:36:12.440 --> 00:36:15.960
weird and I really don't understand it, and I try and not let it

414
00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:19.239
get me down because I know that
I'm producing really good to content and I

415
00:36:19.320 --> 00:36:23.440
know that a lot of people are
watching. It's just discouraging when something doesn't

416
00:36:23.519 --> 00:36:30.760
let you grow in your natural path. Like maybe that's the point. Yeah,

417
00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:35.039
I think it is. I think
it's a demoralization campaign. I think

418
00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:39.480
that they're so remember they're all run
by normies YouTube, Google. These are

419
00:36:39.480 --> 00:36:45.519
all armies, like the if you
working in a corporation, you're an army.

420
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:47.480
Believe me, because I wasn't an
army and I were in a corporation.

421
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:53.280
It was like the most excruciating experience
of my life. And everybody hates

422
00:36:53.320 --> 00:36:58.639
you and is after you because you're
not an army and you say things in

423
00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:02.400
the meetings that no one else and
say, and you're usually right, and

424
00:37:02.400 --> 00:37:10.360
and you can completely take idea and
turn it into another direction and the guy

425
00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:15.039
who thought the idea isn't happy about
it, but it's a better But what

426
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:22.480
would you do is you made it
better? So uh, highly creative people

427
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:27.760
don't don't last long in corporate,
in the corporate structure. So the people

428
00:37:27.800 --> 00:37:32.719
there are armies, and so they
see WU and it freaks them out.

429
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:37.400
It scares them. It really really
does in a way that if you're not

430
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:43.360
WU, if you if you are
WU, you don't understand, because it's

431
00:37:43.360 --> 00:37:49.119
saying that your view of the world
is completely wrong, and my view of

432
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:53.360
the world, my wou view of
the world. If it's right, then

433
00:37:53.960 --> 00:37:59.239
your entire reality crumbles in front of
you. And so then the you know,

434
00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:04.280
the blind is go on, just
like we're experiencing with the conspiracy world

435
00:38:04.360 --> 00:38:10.679
right now. But JKX they I'll
tell you another thing. When we moved

436
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:17.519
to Vimeo and went international, my
emails switched from if I see you in

437
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:22.880
the street, I'm gonna beat the
hell out of you to Wow, that

438
00:38:22.960 --> 00:38:25.000
was the most amazing movie. And
so I say, well, where are

439
00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:30.239
you from? Yeah? Again,
proving it my point again that I made

440
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:34.719
a year ago. Uh, it's
going to be people from outside the United

441
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:40.280
States who were not conditioned to believe
all the stuff about the jfk assassination who

442
00:38:40.280 --> 00:38:45.199
are the most uh most willing to
say, yeah, you know, there's

443
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:51.960
something there in that movie. And
but and I'll make this, I made

444
00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:55.519
this prediction. Also, the very
first people are going to watch jfk X

445
00:38:55.559 --> 00:39:00.519
are going to be the conspiracy world. So the very first review is coming

446
00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:04.400
in on Amazon are going to be
primarily negative, as you tell it,

447
00:39:04.400 --> 00:39:07.880
because we're telling the conspiracy world that
they're full of crap, right, So

448
00:39:09.360 --> 00:39:13.719
but they're going to die away.
And it's happening now. The better reviews

449
00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:16.800
are coming in. You can see
that it's happening on Vimeo two and you

450
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:21.199
can just see that. You know, there there was a curve where you

451
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:24.559
know, everybody, this is the
craziest idea. Who was it? Schopenhouer.

452
00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:31.119
He said that ideas. First they're
scorned, then they're ridiculed, and

453
00:39:31.159 --> 00:39:35.280
then they're oh yeah, everybody knew
that, right, And I think that's

454
00:39:35.320 --> 00:39:39.960
exactly how it works. I really
do. And so you know, I

455
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:46.079
got I got armored with Cubric's odyssey. So I went through that whole experience

456
00:39:46.119 --> 00:39:50.880
and I realized it, if I'm
going to do something controversial, I'm gonna

457
00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:52.719
have to take my hits because that's
just the way it is. And so

458
00:39:52.800 --> 00:39:57.039
I was ready for this. On
jfk X, I fulk kind of sorry

459
00:39:57.079 --> 00:40:01.760
for you. They're like trash in
your ass, and damn man does deserve

460
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:12.000
that what They didn't even see my
face in the movie after you. Yeah,

461
00:40:12.039 --> 00:40:15.119
it is. It is really weird, and I uh and I agree

462
00:40:15.159 --> 00:40:17.519
with you. I agree with you
from the beginning that eventually it was going

463
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:22.639
to be bashed and people were going
to crap on it, and then uh,

464
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:27.559
then it's going to become an accepted
part of what I just exactly like

465
00:40:27.719 --> 00:40:30.880
your cubric's honesty with the faking,
know, the moonlaning, that's the exact

466
00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:37.679
same type of scenario. And now
people have accepted what you had in that

467
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:40.400
film. When when did you come
up with that? Two thousand and twelve

468
00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:45.840
years ago? Yep, takes a
while, but yeah, that's uh,

469
00:40:46.320 --> 00:40:50.280
that's right. But yeah, the
thing is if you present your evidence in

470
00:40:50.320 --> 00:40:55.639
the right way, it's visual and
both films use visual evidence to present the

471
00:40:55.679 --> 00:41:00.440
case. And that's why they're in
their movies, because we're using movies to

472
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:06.760
show what we're saying. And so
you wouldn't put it in an essay,

473
00:41:06.800 --> 00:41:08.360
you wouldn't put it in a book, you'd put it in a movie.

474
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:14.159
And and you know, it's got
to be driving the powers that be cuckoo.

475
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:20.440
And that's good that, you know. I think there's a really big

476
00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:25.199
misrepresentation of when people talk about the
faking of the moon landing, right,

477
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:30.280
Like they're like, ah, all
these people think that we didn't go to

478
00:41:30.320 --> 00:41:31.440
the Moon and all that, and
I'm like, take a step back.

479
00:41:31.480 --> 00:41:35.559
That's not what a lot of people
are saying. They're saying that the footage

480
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:39.599
is faked. There's a difference between
the footage being faked and us never going

481
00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:43.199
to the moon, right, There's
a difference there, and it's normally the

482
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:49.320
latter that people believe and they are
talking about, but that gets misrepresented and

483
00:41:49.360 --> 00:41:53.239
misquoted for people thinking that we never
went to the Moon at all. Right,

484
00:41:53.360 --> 00:42:00.400
And flat earthers don't help that out
either, by the way, because

485
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:05.360
they kind of perpetuate that whole use
that evidence that I got to perpetuate the

486
00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:08.760
flat earth, which irritates me.
They're the only people that use my evidence

487
00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:15.760
that I get irritated by. And
uh and by way, I put out

488
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:22.280
a call fifteen times now in the
last five seven years to debate any flat

489
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:27.760
earth or anywhere anytime. No one
will take it up. They all give

490
00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:37.320
me phony excuses and they won't take
it up. And you know it wasn't

491
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:40.639
Vid David Weiss was supposed to debate
you Ray and then he dropped out like

492
00:42:42.119 --> 00:42:44.519
last minute or something, and you
guys were getting ready to go on.

493
00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:47.719
Yep, we're all getting ready to
I was getting all practiced up and practicing

494
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:53.440
my kicks and my elbow hits,
and I've been all ready for my let's

495
00:42:53.519 --> 00:42:59.320
go and then do it, you
know, I said, okay, And

496
00:42:59.400 --> 00:43:07.400
you know the thing is is that. Okay, you give me ninety seconds

497
00:43:07.679 --> 00:43:13.440
and I'll show you why the Earth
isn't flat. All right. You're standing

498
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:20.239
in Sacramento and you're looking east.
It's half hour before sunrise. Okay,

499
00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:22.239
the Sun's going to rise in the
east, there's no doubt or if you're

500
00:43:22.280 --> 00:43:27.239
flat Earth, or it's going to
be advancing towards you from the east.

501
00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:30.239
So we both agree that it's coming
from the east. You disagree on what

502
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:36.159
it's doing. I'm round Earthers say
it's rising or not rising at the Earth

503
00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:39.239
is lower and of course and a
flat. Others say that the sun is

504
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:47.239
moving towards us either way. So
you're looking east and east of you at

505
00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:52.920
about one hundred and twenty miles are
fourteen thousand foot sier in Nevada Mountains.

506
00:43:52.440 --> 00:44:00.119
Okay, So if you're on a
round Earth, those mountains are over the

507
00:44:00.239 --> 00:44:04.239
edge. So when the sun rises
or comes at you, whatever you want

508
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:07.840
to say, it rises on the
horizon. But if it was a flat

509
00:44:07.960 --> 00:44:12.719
Earth, then those mountains would be
in the way of the sun rise,

510
00:44:13.719 --> 00:44:17.639
and so you would see the sun
rise above the horizon eclipsed by the mountains.

511
00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:22.880
Whether it was coming at you or
rising, it doesn't matter. And

512
00:44:22.920 --> 00:44:24.960
you would actually if you looked really
close, you would see the ridges of

513
00:44:25.000 --> 00:44:31.280
the mountain etched into the sun as
it was rising. And you don't see

514
00:44:31.280 --> 00:44:37.039
that. So you know, there's
about fifteen different ways that you can test

515
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:42.559
these things out. You don't even
need any tools or anything. So the

516
00:44:42.599 --> 00:44:45.480
same thing you can do in eastern
Colorado. Go to eastern Colorado with sunset,

517
00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:50.760
the same thing. Because the sun
sets an eclipse by the mountains on

518
00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:57.639
the Kansas border of Colorado, No, No, fourteen thousand foot mountains,

519
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:01.280
they don't see any evidence of it. So you know, flat earth is

520
00:45:01.320 --> 00:45:06.679
actually really easy to disprove. That's
all that. And I don't mind the

521
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:10.239
flatter as people. I don't know, but whenever they start attacking you and

522
00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:15.400
uh, making the entire conversation about
flat Earth, when the conversation is anything

523
00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:19.559
to do with flat Earth, it's
ridiculous, you know. And like people

524
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:22.360
will be like, oh, you
said earth one time, You're you're a

525
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:24.679
globe tard, Like what does that
even mean? Bro? The show isn't

526
00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:28.599
even about flatter Earth, dude,
and you're in here with your flatter stuff.

527
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:36.679
The other thing is is that anyone
who's actually studied alchemy knows that one

528
00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:45.039
of the main rules of alchemy is
that everything is spherical everything everything, you

529
00:45:45.079 --> 00:45:50.000
know. Silent voice says, what
about a bigger planet, more land mass?

530
00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:55.920
There could be missing land. There
could be by the way, there

531
00:45:55.960 --> 00:46:01.719
could be a hollow Earth. Sorry, but there could be. Uh,

532
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:07.519
there's enough evidence and the whole sense, the whole world is built around hyperdimensional

533
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:10.480
Uh. You know, Taurus is
that's what the atom is, that's what

534
00:46:12.119 --> 00:46:19.599
Uh it could be that every play
because if you google image like south Pole,

535
00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:24.119
Venus, North Pole, Mars,
whatever, you're always finding something weird

536
00:46:24.199 --> 00:46:31.719
there, something strange and just looks
odd and and and so I don't know,

537
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:37.559
it would make sense a lot of
Sensor is this great book. I

538
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:46.039
think it's free as a PDF that
uh called Hollow Planets by a South African

539
00:46:46.079 --> 00:46:52.039
guy, but it's free and he
did a thorough, deep dive into all

540
00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:57.559
the hollow Earth and hollow and he
sort of concluded that that all the planets

541
00:46:57.559 --> 00:47:02.280
are hollow and and it would make
a lot of sense. So you know

542
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:09.519
about the expanding Earth, right,
the ever expanding Okay, so the Earth

543
00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:15.280
it was originally in this theory,
the Earth is once one third its original

544
00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:19.320
size, and it was covered with
water, completely covered with water. And

545
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:25.039
then through a series of reasons,
the Earth begins popping out every once in

546
00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:30.239
a while, getting bigger, and
that water flows down into the cracks and

547
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:34.000
those cracks become the oceans. And
then the Earth gets bigger and the water

548
00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:37.239
gets more water and bigger, until
we have what we have today. And

549
00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:43.679
so just imagine what's going on in
the inside of the expanding Earth. So

550
00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:49.679
you've got your heavy molten core or
probably more likely plasma right at the center,

551
00:47:50.199 --> 00:47:52.760
and since it's at the center,
it's got zero gravity. And as

552
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:59.639
the earth mantle expands and expands,
it leaves a cavity between that center core

553
00:48:00.079 --> 00:48:07.559
and the inside surface, right,
and that would be a natural explanation for

554
00:48:07.639 --> 00:48:14.159
how this mechanism of how a hollow
planet would be created. And that's Agnew

555
00:48:14.239 --> 00:48:16.239
whatever his name is, who does
the hollow planet. He told me that

556
00:48:16.280 --> 00:48:20.440
theory is. That's not my theory. I can't remember his name now,

557
00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:27.679
but a really interesting guy. He
wants to take a Russian icebreaker and go

558
00:48:27.760 --> 00:48:32.880
to the North Pole and he's getting
money for that right now. He's trying

559
00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:37.199
to I hope he succeeds. But
people don't realize is that the ice at

560
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:42.159
the North Pole is building, not
like the global warmer. People are saying

561
00:48:42.239 --> 00:48:46.039
it's building every year there's like a
few more feet of ice and so it's

562
00:48:46.079 --> 00:48:50.760
not melting, it's getting bigger.
That's another thing that's going on in the

563
00:48:50.800 --> 00:48:55.320
world that people aren't talking about.
Well, Elizabeth says, I I believe

564
00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:59.800
we do not live on a spinning
ball, and that JFK was not shown

565
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:07.000
killed. Well, I mean,
what is it? Because a lot of

566
00:49:07.000 --> 00:49:08.000
people bring that up, Jay,
They're like, oh, well, how

567
00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:16.000
can we be spinning it? However
many miles an hour that people say in

568
00:49:17.079 --> 00:49:24.199
well, because you were caught in
the the the plasma sheath of the Solar

569
00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:29.159
System. So the Sun is a
gigantic battle of plasma, and it creates

570
00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:35.400
a sheath which captures all the planets
in the sheath. Right, So it's

571
00:49:35.400 --> 00:49:39.639
a plasma sheet, and it's a
sheath. And they're called Brooklyn currents in

572
00:49:39.639 --> 00:49:45.239
in UH in the astronomy, and
they're they're they're like uh. And so

573
00:49:45.440 --> 00:49:52.039
that all of the planets are caught
in this invisible force field which holds them

574
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:55.360
in place, right, And that's
what's going on. And and each planet

575
00:49:55.440 --> 00:50:00.920
has its own plasma field around it
which is acting with the larger solar plausa

576
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:07.719
field which is interacting with the larger
galactic plasma field. And we've measured the

577
00:50:07.800 --> 00:50:15.400
electromagnetic electromagnetic range of the center of
the galaxy recently. It just came out.

578
00:50:15.920 --> 00:50:19.480
And so if you have the galaxy, if the center of the galaxy

579
00:50:19.599 --> 00:50:30.679
is this big, the electromagnetic sheath
is just shoes gigantic. And so outer

580
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:37.199
space is filled with plasma, and
it's filled with living beings that are made

581
00:50:37.199 --> 00:50:42.760
out of plasma. Famous Space Shuttle
video where they've rolled the tether out of

582
00:50:42.760 --> 00:50:45.679
the Space Shuttle. It was electric
wire, copper wire that they electrified no,

583
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:51.199
they did not electrify it. They
rolled out about a mile long copper

584
00:50:51.239 --> 00:50:53.719
wire. You can get this video
on YouTube, and they just let it

585
00:50:53.760 --> 00:50:58.639
float off into space and it started
gathering electricity, because that's what space is,

586
00:50:59.159 --> 00:51:04.840
plasmas, alllectricity. And all of
these round orbs flew in and started

587
00:51:04.880 --> 00:51:10.079
examining the wire and flying around and
and everything. And they were alive and

588
00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:14.320
they had intellect and they were sentient
and they were looking at the wire.

589
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:21.119
I know this guy who was out
hunting here in Colorado, night hunting and

590
00:51:21.400 --> 00:51:27.559
which is illegal, and he was
looking through the trees and he saw about

591
00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:32.480
the size of a basketball a bluish
purplish light floating through the trees. And

592
00:51:32.519 --> 00:51:36.199
he turned around and looked at it
and went like this, like he made

593
00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:39.239
some kind of gesture or noise and
it stopped. It hurt him, and

594
00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:44.440
it came over to him and started
and he could see it was like misty

595
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:50.800
morphing inside this ball, like a
cloud was in it and it was static

596
00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:55.760
and his hair stood on and you
could hear right and yeah, light beings.

597
00:51:55.840 --> 00:52:01.199
And I know this guy in Georgia. He goes out at night and

598
00:52:01.239 --> 00:52:05.800
the first thing he does with his
guitar. And the first thing he does

599
00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:08.719
is he says, hey, my
friends, I'm out here, and then

600
00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:13.159
he starts playing Bach and he says
pretty and he films it. He has

601
00:52:13.159 --> 00:52:15.199
an own film. He sends me
the films, and pretty soon they start

602
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:20.079
coming out of the sky and they're
like dancing to his music, right,

603
00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:22.559
And he said, they like Bach. So I just that's what I play,

604
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:28.960
and and and and that's what's so
much bigger and more amazing than a

605
00:52:29.000 --> 00:52:31.719
flat earth could ever be. That
I don't know why you would want to

606
00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:37.639
limit yourself to such such a such
a concept when it's so much more interesting

607
00:52:38.840 --> 00:52:43.039
and and and by the way,
on the same subject, and this is

608
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:46.400
really interesting, and I'm going to
have Robert Temple on to talk about it.

609
00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:52.760
Surrounding the Earth is an invisible,
tourist shaped cloud called a Kordlewski crowd

610
00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:59.800
cloud, named by a Polish astronomer
in Kordolewski, and it is plasma.

611
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:06.519
It is ten thousand times the size
of the Earth, and it surrounds the

612
00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:12.960
entire Earth all right, and it's
all electrified. And Robert Temple says that

613
00:53:13.039 --> 00:53:21.480
if Robert Temple shows you that when
plasma plasma creates sheaths, and these sheaths

614
00:53:21.960 --> 00:53:27.599
separate the plasma from plasmas, so
they become individuated. These blobs of plasma

615
00:53:27.639 --> 00:53:34.400
become individuated by these sheaths. And
these sheaths are almost exactly the same way

616
00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:39.000
that our skin protects us from the
outer environment. It's got our skins,

617
00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:43.960
these layers that protect us from different
things, and these sheaths have the same

618
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:49.119
thing, and they're around them.
And when you couple the fact that the

619
00:53:49.159 --> 00:53:54.920
plasma beings can individuate, they can
create like a skin of plasma around themselves,

620
00:53:55.320 --> 00:54:00.639
and that they seem interested in things
I curious. That means they have

621
00:54:01.159 --> 00:54:07.320
intellect. Then I'm saying that we
are surrounded by a universe of plasma beings

622
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:12.000
that interact with us and we don't
even know it. And ghosts, all

623
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:19.639
paranormal experiences are the plasma world ghosts. I think most UFOs because if I

624
00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:24.199
type in UFO on YouTube and I
start watching one UFO video after another,

625
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:29.719
I don't see flying saucers with lights
and stuff. I do occasionally, but

626
00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:32.639
mostly what I see is just kind
of blobs of light floating around. And

627
00:54:32.679 --> 00:54:39.760
I think that ninety five percent of
the UFO sightings are plasma. And I

628
00:54:39.800 --> 00:54:45.360
had a long conversation with Philip Klass, the plasma physicists years ago, who

629
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:51.039
wrote books about UFOs being plasma,
and everybody in the UFO community just hated

630
00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:54.000
this guy. He just hated him. And he would go to conferences and

631
00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:59.440
people would scream and spit would be
flying, and I got him inside.

632
00:55:00.079 --> 00:55:01.719
I think you might have a point, and he's like, oh my god,

633
00:55:01.880 --> 00:55:07.480
somebody who believes me, and you
know, and his books are actually

634
00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:13.760
quite interesting, and Philip Klass is
his name, and so that's what I

635
00:55:13.760 --> 00:55:20.599
think is going on. And I
think that these ancient stories of fairies and

636
00:55:20.639 --> 00:55:25.039
gnomes and sprites and all that these
are plasma beings that people see out in

637
00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:30.400
the woods and there there you can
see through them. I've seen them.

638
00:55:30.719 --> 00:55:35.920
You can see through them, the
kind of etheric looking and uh uh uh

639
00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:40.719
they have movement. The ones I
saw looked like manta rays. I saw

640
00:55:40.760 --> 00:55:45.440
him in the sky here in Colorado, three of them, and I could

641
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:49.400
see right through them. I could
see the clouds in the sky through them.

642
00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:52.320
But they were alive and living,
and they were interacting with each other.

643
00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:59.639
And I think that uh ball lightning
has been known to enter into airplanes

644
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:04.559
and to actually go down the aisle
and stop and look at passengers and stuff.

645
00:56:07.000 --> 00:56:09.440
It's incredible. And I believe that
it is the new emerging science.

646
00:56:09.920 --> 00:56:21.360
And I also believe that the reason
that this science is only coming out now

647
00:56:22.119 --> 00:56:29.320
is because we're emerging out of the
Collie Yoga and our solar systems getting more

648
00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:35.039
energy from the center of the galaxy. And I think we're like we're lighting

649
00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:37.920
up as a species. I think
we're lighting up and beginning to see everything

650
00:56:37.920 --> 00:56:43.800
that's going on. And I think
that scares the living crap out of the

651
00:56:44.639 --> 00:56:49.199
WEF and all those guys, because
they know they have to move really fast

652
00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:54.280
because pretty soon everybody's going to be
able to see this new emerging paradigm and

653
00:56:54.639 --> 00:56:59.440
they're not going to deny it.
So what happens when you have a science

654
00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:04.360
that explains a paranormal? What happens
when scientists can tell you what a ghost

655
00:57:04.480 --> 00:57:06.960
is, Well, that means that
no one's going to be making any more

656
00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:10.480
money off of the paranormal and ghosts
and extraterrestrials and aliens anymore. That's why

657
00:57:10.480 --> 00:57:13.800
they never want to solve the case. That's why they never want to tell

658
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:15.960
you what's going on. That's why
they don't want to tell you the truth,

659
00:57:15.079 --> 00:57:19.519
Jay, because it ruins the entire
thing and no one can make money

660
00:57:19.519 --> 00:57:22.440
off of it. That is,
that's right. And I said that at

661
00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:24.559
the disclosure fest. I said,
I had a sold out room, right

662
00:57:24.599 --> 00:57:28.920
and my whole room saw it.
There was no seats. And I said,

663
00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:34.000
this is the one thing that they
never want to hear at a UFO

664
00:57:34.039 --> 00:57:37.280
conference. And then I did my
lecture because that's the one thing they don't

665
00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:42.480
want to hear. They put,
you know, screaming and yelling and everything.

666
00:57:42.760 --> 00:57:45.239
But you know, when you start
like looking at the rendellshom incident in

667
00:57:45.280 --> 00:57:52.280
England at LOKs, more like a
plasma being of some kind that was interacting

668
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:55.599
with those guys. They touched it
and they burned their hands because it's plasma,

669
00:57:57.239 --> 00:58:00.960
and that seems more like a military
experiment to me. That was at

670
00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:05.639
a military base. If something's happening
at a military base, I'm strange.

671
00:58:06.440 --> 00:58:14.679
It could be secret space programs.
But there's a lot of incidences where just

672
00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:19.079
this And by the way, this
is where the word mystical and mist comes

673
00:58:19.079 --> 00:58:22.760
from, because the plasma looks like
a mist. It's like I described,

674
00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:29.679
it's got this a morphous cloudy thing
going on, and when you see it,

675
00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:32.159
it's just very mystical. And that's
I think where the word comes from.

676
00:58:32.199 --> 00:58:37.480
There was this uh explorer. It
was in an arcticle with like eight

677
00:58:37.559 --> 00:58:40.400
or nine guys trying I think they're
trying to get to the north or South

678
00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:46.239
pole, and they saw this cloud
coming at him over the ice and they

679
00:58:46.280 --> 00:58:51.960
said they could hear it as it
came. It was and they could see

680
00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:55.000
like little bolts of electricity and stuff
in the cloud, and the clouds surrounded

681
00:58:55.039 --> 00:59:01.760
them and they all passed out.
Are they all? They woke up an

682
00:59:01.760 --> 00:59:07.400
hour later. Nobody remembers anything right, and they said, well, what

683
00:59:07.599 --> 00:59:10.960
was that? And I don't know, man, it hit me and I

684
00:59:12.039 --> 00:59:14.679
just passed out. I fell down
to the ground and he says, me

685
00:59:14.800 --> 00:59:16.039
too, and me too, me
too. They all said it. And

686
00:59:16.079 --> 00:59:20.679
then another guy goes, that can't
be possible because look, and they looked

687
00:59:21.000 --> 00:59:25.079
and there was like footprints all around
him. They've been walking around for the

688
00:59:25.119 --> 00:59:30.639
whole hour in the spot. All
four, five or six guys were all

689
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:34.800
walking around, and so they had
almost like this weird experience when it hit

690
00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:37.000
him where they thought that they had
passed out and they don't remember what was

691
00:59:37.039 --> 00:59:43.079
going on. And it sounds just
like a lot of these abduction experiences where

692
00:59:43.360 --> 00:59:45.639
you know, the couple will be, you know, in their car and

693
00:59:45.639 --> 00:59:50.519
they'll see this cloud coming at them
and the cloud hits them, and then

694
00:59:50.559 --> 00:59:55.000
they think they have this kind of
weird and strange experience. And so what

695
00:59:55.000 --> 00:59:59.480
you're saying, Jay, is it
was swamp gass. It has been swamp

696
00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:06.280
gasses exactly. It is swap gas. And now by that was Class.

697
01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:09.079
I came up with that. It
was Philip Class that came up with it

698
01:00:09.159 --> 01:00:13.920
must be swamp gas, right,
but it is a swamp. They're called

699
01:00:15.079 --> 01:00:19.880
there's there's certain kinds of these light
beings that are seen around swamps. They're

700
01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:23.119
called I can't remember there's a word
for him, but there's a name for

701
01:00:23.199 --> 01:00:28.159
him. People have for these things
that they see and they're always around talk.

702
01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:31.320
Yeah, it wasn't for sure if
it was a gentleman or if it

703
01:00:31.400 --> 01:00:38.079
was j heine that came up with
the swamp Jay Allen, he mimicked Philip

704
01:00:38.119 --> 01:00:45.159
Class. He knew him and and
I think heinech and I think actually jacquell

705
01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:49.000
A think a lot of them are
are plasma actually, I think so.

706
01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:57.239
And there's this guy. There's this
guy on the internet, Bruce sees all.

707
01:00:57.559 --> 01:00:59.920
I don't know if you've seen this
guy, but he's got a high

708
01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:04.719
our telescope and he points it out
the Moon and does a lot of photography

709
01:01:04.719 --> 01:01:07.199
of the Moon. So he's not
using other people's imagery. He's using just

710
01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:15.599
what he generates. And he sees
these like amiebas, like almost flying over

711
01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:20.599
the surface of the Moon. It
looks like jellyfish or amibas. And he's

712
01:01:20.639 --> 01:01:24.480
got a lot of a video of
these things. And I want to write

713
01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:29.960
him and say, oh no,
those are the plasma beings and they're everywhere.

714
01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:30.960
They may not be on the Moon. I mean, he may be

715
01:01:31.119 --> 01:01:35.519
just somewhere between him and the telescope
in the moon. And he's just saying,

716
01:01:35.559 --> 01:01:39.840
we don't know. So, like
I said, we're going to start

717
01:01:39.840 --> 01:01:45.320
seeing these more and more. You're
gonna start seeing more and more of people

718
01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:52.400
saying that they saw these weird things
in the sky. And Andrew Collins does

719
01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:54.840
a lot of great work into that
as well. Yeah, he's going to

720
01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:58.519
be a contact again this year.
I talked to him for a couple of

721
01:01:58.559 --> 01:02:06.920
hours contact line while we're all playing
cornhole and we had a fantastic conversation.

722
01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:09.719
I feel like he's one more level
handed people within the community. But it's

723
01:02:09.719 --> 01:02:15.840
interesting that you brought up disc and
flat disc a little bit earlier before,

724
01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:20.079
because they never were disc. They
never were flying saucers. That's a giant

725
01:02:20.079 --> 01:02:24.119
misnomber Kenneth Arnold. That was a
misquote from Kenneth Arnold in nineteen forty seven.

726
01:02:24.599 --> 01:02:30.079
They never were disc, they never
were flying saucers, So they were

727
01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:32.920
plasma before he died, Right before
he died, he came out and said

728
01:02:32.960 --> 01:02:36.880
it, I think I saw plasma. And where did he say it?

729
01:02:37.039 --> 01:02:40.960
A volcano? Right, Red mottrn
Air, which is a volcano? What

730
01:02:42.400 --> 01:02:46.599
causes what when a volcano goes off? What comes off that volcano? Plasma?

731
01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:52.239
What it was seen all the time
around volcanoes that are going off UFOs.

732
01:02:53.440 --> 01:03:00.360
The plasmas beings are really into getting
that energy is coming off bacano.

733
01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:06.519
Same with the those beings that go
to the sun. You know, so

734
01:03:06.679 --> 01:03:09.960
Hoo shows these round beings going and
like they're creating a filament down to the

735
01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:15.679
sun. Those are just the giant
plasma beings that are everywhere. I would

736
01:03:15.679 --> 01:03:22.440
say they outnumber as quadrillion into one. Yeah. And Kenneth Thorno I think

737
01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:25.199
it was in nineteen well, it
was toward the more end of his life.

738
01:03:25.199 --> 01:03:29.320
He was like, yeah, these
things that I saw. Because Keineth

739
01:03:29.360 --> 01:03:34.199
Donald had several sightings after that sighting
in nineteen forty seven. He had up

740
01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:38.840
to eight and some people say eleven
different sightings after that initial signing in Mountaineer,

741
01:03:39.039 --> 01:03:44.119
Washington, and he started seeing that
they were like translucent, that they

742
01:03:44.119 --> 01:03:50.039
were alive, that they were like
biological beings, and even said jellyfish,

743
01:03:50.079 --> 01:03:52.039
which was really interesting because when I
was doing this research, that two B

744
01:03:52.199 --> 01:03:58.119
documentary came out UFO Revolution with Jeremy
Corbell, and they're talking about the jellyfish

745
01:03:58.199 --> 01:04:00.719
UFO And here I'm reading this book
that Arnold said that the craft that he

746
01:04:00.760 --> 01:04:04.960
saw was like a jellyfish. I'm
like, what a coincidence there, huh

747
01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:10.679
yep. Yeah. And Trevor Constable, that's his name. He photographed him.

748
01:04:10.679 --> 01:04:14.519
He had an infrared camera. You
can google him and he James Trevor

749
01:04:14.519 --> 01:04:17.840
Constable, and he's long gone,
but he was a radar operator and he

750
01:04:17.880 --> 01:04:21.920
would be on the boat and the
radar would go off, and they would

751
01:04:23.119 --> 01:04:26.199
and they would think they're being under
attack by the enemy. In World War

752
01:04:26.239 --> 01:04:29.599
Two, that he'd run out to
the see the airplanes coming and they would

753
01:04:29.599 --> 01:04:32.159
see nothing. And this happened a
lot. You realize there's something out there

754
01:04:32.159 --> 01:04:36.199
I can't see. So he got
an infrared camera and sure enough he caught

755
01:04:36.239 --> 01:04:40.239
him, and you can get him. They're everywhere, and they're easy to

756
01:04:40.280 --> 01:04:43.679
catch actually, And like I said, they're gonna we're gonna be seeing them

757
01:04:43.719 --> 01:04:47.400
everywhere soon. But then you think, well, could that be like a

758
01:04:47.480 --> 01:04:51.039
light anomaly, you know how like
people they go out and they take a

759
01:04:51.079 --> 01:04:56.440
picture through a wind wind shielder the
window of a car, and then they're

760
01:04:56.480 --> 01:04:59.199
like, there's two sons on this. You see out there? I got

761
01:04:59.239 --> 01:05:00.840
two sons. It's it's in the
bureau. It's behind the sun. It's

762
01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:04.880
a double sun. That one is
just a reflection of the sun through taking

763
01:05:04.880 --> 01:05:11.320
the photo through a window or a
wind shoot or something. Yeah. But

764
01:05:11.440 --> 01:05:15.639
the thing is is that James Trevor
Constable's pictures, if you look at the

765
01:05:15.639 --> 01:05:19.159
object, they have the that amorphous
thing going on inside them. You can

766
01:05:19.239 --> 01:05:26.519
see there's this they have something inside
them that's and it's it's identifiable. And

767
01:05:26.639 --> 01:05:30.719
that's what I saw. In the
two times that I've had my UH interactions

768
01:05:30.760 --> 01:05:35.159
with plasma beings, I saw that
same thing they have UH and it's moving.

769
01:05:35.559 --> 01:05:41.079
It's not static, it's moving.
And so that's the dead giveaway that

770
01:05:41.119 --> 01:05:45.320
you're dealing with something way different than
we think. And by the way,

771
01:05:45.440 --> 01:05:51.239
the if you go into ancient literature, Vedic literature, or even European literature,

772
01:05:53.360 --> 01:05:55.920
a lot of people talk about this
stuff. This is this is a

773
01:05:55.960 --> 01:06:00.239
lot, you know. They usually
call it fire saw the fire that didn't

774
01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:06.039
burn. So they're looking for words
and things to describe it because they don't

775
01:06:06.079 --> 01:06:13.119
have plasma. But the descriptions matched
that these things have been around since the

776
01:06:13.159 --> 01:06:16.239
beginning. And I believe, frankly, here's what I believe. I believe

777
01:06:16.280 --> 01:06:26.880
that we live in the Kordalovski Cloud
as plasma beings, that a filament of

778
01:06:27.519 --> 01:06:31.760
plasma comes down from the Korduleuski cloud
that surrounds the Earth. It comes down

779
01:06:31.800 --> 01:06:35.880
to the Earth and it becomes a
human being, a body, and for

780
01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:42.199
a short while that plasma being loves
as a human being and then passes back

781
01:06:42.239 --> 01:06:46.320
into the Kordaluski Cloud with the memories
going into the cloud. That's the ecostic

782
01:06:46.400 --> 01:06:50.960
record and all of that. It's
a science, it's not bs spiritual stuff.

783
01:06:51.159 --> 01:06:55.639
I don't believe in that stuff.
I believe in actually explaining what's really

784
01:06:55.679 --> 01:06:59.519
going on here. And so there
is no death. You just go back

785
01:06:59.519 --> 01:07:03.639
into the court Luski Cloud. I
hear. It's a really fascinating and amazing

786
01:07:03.679 --> 01:07:09.639
place. And it has layers like
an onion, each layers different than the

787
01:07:09.639 --> 01:07:14.039
others, different architecture, different philosophy, different culture, different things to learn

788
01:07:14.679 --> 01:07:26.079
and and these beings. And so
if we go back into the Ufo lore,

789
01:07:27.440 --> 01:07:33.440
we see that the aliens after World
War Two, after the atomic bomb

790
01:07:33.480 --> 01:07:39.559
went off, the aliens are very
concerned about a life on Earth and the

791
01:07:39.559 --> 01:07:45.079
ecology and everything, and they will
duct people and say, you know,

792
01:07:45.400 --> 01:07:47.880
you guys are killing the earth.
You're killing the earth, right, And

793
01:07:48.159 --> 01:07:53.800
so you have to ask you so
why would aliens care? But plasma beings

794
01:07:53.840 --> 01:07:57.920
do live here, and plasm beings
do have an interaction with the Earth if

795
01:07:57.920 --> 01:08:03.199
they're in the Kordaluski Cloud, so
they will they would be concerned about that,

796
01:08:03.559 --> 01:08:06.519
and so they would come here and
try to get us to change our

797
01:08:06.559 --> 01:08:11.679
behavior so that they can continue to
do what they do, which has come

798
01:08:11.760 --> 01:08:15.319
down here, have a good time, learn how to you know, have

799
01:08:15.520 --> 01:08:25.119
sex and fight and drink and yeah, it's things that we do and then

800
01:08:25.199 --> 01:08:29.560
go back with all the memories and
we learn, and you know, it's

801
01:08:29.600 --> 01:08:34.920
a spiritual system. Dark matter doesn't
exist. It's plasma around every planet and

802
01:08:35.000 --> 01:08:40.039
start that the scientists are finding.
But they just can't accept the plasma universe

803
01:08:40.079 --> 01:08:45.079
because they rejected the ether universe at
the beginning of the twentieth century and they

804
01:08:45.119 --> 01:08:49.760
can't ever accept it back, even
though the experiments that they performed didn't work.

805
01:08:50.079 --> 01:08:54.119
And I'll leave you with one last
thing about the plasma universe, which

806
01:08:54.159 --> 01:09:02.359
is a fascinating story. There was
a guy in England in eighteen eighty and

807
01:09:02.439 --> 01:09:05.600
what he did was he got a
bunch of dirt and he put it in

808
01:09:05.600 --> 01:09:10.680
an oven and he baked it really
hot, made sure that everything in that

809
01:09:10.720 --> 01:09:14.000
dirt was dead. Right. Then
he took it and he put it in

810
01:09:14.119 --> 01:09:17.000
a vacuum and then he put a
little electro down through the top of his

811
01:09:17.119 --> 01:09:21.600
vacuum chamber, slucked all the air
out, and he zapped the dead dirt

812
01:09:23.680 --> 01:09:28.920
with electricity for ten seconds, and
he pulled it back up within two days.

813
01:09:29.039 --> 01:09:32.159
There was all these organisms crawling all
over the dirt. All right,

814
01:09:33.199 --> 01:09:36.079
yep, that's a true story.
And somebody out there is going to remember

815
01:09:36.119 --> 01:09:42.159
his name and help us. But
that's a true story. And that just

816
01:09:42.199 --> 01:09:45.640
got washed under the as fast as
it came out, it got destroyed,

817
01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:49.039
and that guy got destroyed. So
I don't want you to know that life

818
01:09:49.119 --> 01:09:55.800
actually comes from plasma. Wow,
that's really incredible. And when you're talking

819
01:09:55.800 --> 01:10:00.920
about burning bushes being misrepresented as something
else, you also got like Moses and

820
01:10:00.479 --> 01:10:05.319
the burning bush yep, as well
like a lot of fire and a lot

821
01:10:05.359 --> 01:10:11.239
of things like that throughout the Bible. There is, in fact that there's

822
01:10:11.279 --> 01:10:15.880
a whole book about all the fire
that's in the Bible that isn't doesn't burn

823
01:10:15.920 --> 01:10:23.159
anything. You know, the bush
that Moses saw didn't burn. He says

824
01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:26.960
it's stopped burning. I mean it's
burning, but it's not. In alchemy,

825
01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:30.520
it's called the fire that doesn't burn. And said, if you must

826
01:10:30.560 --> 01:10:35.319
find or to succeed in your alchemical
experiment, you must find the fire that

827
01:10:35.439 --> 01:10:42.000
doesn't burn. So in alchemy there's
four states of matter. There's earth,

828
01:10:42.399 --> 01:10:45.720
air, water, and fire.
In physics, there's four states of matter,

829
01:10:46.079 --> 01:10:53.279
solid, gas, liquid, and
plasma solid as earth gases air,

830
01:10:54.920 --> 01:10:59.119
liquid is water, and the fire
is plasma, and the plasma is the

831
01:10:59.159 --> 01:11:05.600
secret fire. And your philosopher's stone
is a device that is that is gathers

832
01:11:05.680 --> 01:11:11.840
up the plasma and concentrates it into
a huge amount. Then you just simply

833
01:11:11.840 --> 01:11:17.920
flake off some of that stone and
ingest it. That's the Philosopher's stone and

834
01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:26.600
can probably speculation, revive things,
make things live for way longer than humanly

835
01:11:26.680 --> 01:11:30.319
possible. Flux Capacitor brought up a
good one, the chariot of fire.

836
01:11:30.840 --> 01:11:35.359
Yeah, the chariot fire is the
original chariot fire was of course the mercibile

837
01:11:35.439 --> 01:11:43.159
which the yellow him used to fly
around in. But when plasma is streaking

838
01:11:43.199 --> 01:11:45.600
through the air, it looks like
a chariot of fire or a car of

839
01:11:45.680 --> 01:11:57.920
fire, a ball of fire.
So and uh, when plasma physicist James

840
01:11:58.119 --> 01:12:02.039
per Lot, I think is his
name out of Los Alamos. He you

841
01:12:02.079 --> 01:12:06.960
know, we're all day working with
plasma physics and experiments and everything, and

842
01:12:08.000 --> 01:12:11.640
then one day said, well,
let's go out to the town. Let's

843
01:12:11.640 --> 01:12:15.119
go out to the square and look
at the go to the art stores and

844
01:12:15.119 --> 01:12:17.520
he's like, okay. So they
got to the art stores in Taos,

845
01:12:17.960 --> 01:12:24.239
I think Santa Fe. They're all
in the town. They're all Native American

846
01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:28.920
art stores, Southwestern Native American art. And he went and he looked at

847
01:12:28.920 --> 01:12:31.560
the Native American art and he said, this is plasma. And then he

848
01:12:32.039 --> 01:12:38.960
got pictures of his plasma experiments and
showed that their art all had plasma forms

849
01:12:38.960 --> 01:12:43.640
in it. And then we now
know by looking at the at the pictograms

850
01:12:43.680 --> 01:12:48.000
from Native Americans that there's they have
plasma pictograms everywhere now, all over the

851
01:12:48.039 --> 01:12:54.960
American Southwest, and we can only
conclude that they witnessed the plasma event in

852
01:12:55.000 --> 01:12:58.680
the sky and that they drew it
on made it part of their art.

853
01:13:00.239 --> 01:13:04.319
Yeah, the universe is like our
brain, electro magnetic plasma universe. No

854
01:13:04.479 --> 01:13:09.520
black holes are scary black. We
just cannot see plasma with our narrow band

855
01:13:09.560 --> 01:13:13.960
of site. That's right. And
if you look at the neuro structure of

856
01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:17.199
the brain and you look at Brooklan
currents which are in outer space, they

857
01:13:17.199 --> 01:13:23.680
match perfectly. Your brain is a
Brooklan current. The I think actually the

858
01:13:23.800 --> 01:13:27.199
universe might be a giant brain.
I mean that's serious. It might be

859
01:13:27.239 --> 01:13:35.000
a gigantic synapse series kudapses, I
mean going off and and you know,

860
01:13:35.720 --> 01:13:40.399
that's what it is. And to
me, it's like the best news that

861
01:13:40.439 --> 01:13:45.399
anyone could ever have. So yeah, but again it's not going to sell

862
01:13:45.520 --> 01:13:48.680
because it explains a lot of a
lot of things and a lot of the

863
01:13:48.680 --> 01:13:51.359
way that things actually work. And
they don't want people to know the way

864
01:13:51.399 --> 01:13:55.640
the thys. No, they don't, And they don't push it either.

865
01:13:56.720 --> 01:14:01.560
Temple's not getting any push from his
publisher. He's not getting any interviews about

866
01:14:01.560 --> 01:14:06.479
it, even though he scientifically nails
it in his new book, New Science

867
01:14:06.520 --> 01:14:13.640
of Heaven. Nobody's paying any attention
to him. So he's grateful I'm having

868
01:14:13.720 --> 01:14:17.439
him on. But and I know
it's the same thing with Joe Ferrell's new

869
01:14:17.439 --> 01:14:21.880
book is about plasma. I know
he's not getting any any traction either.

870
01:14:23.520 --> 01:14:28.880
So this is definitely something they don't
want us to know about. And and

871
01:14:29.199 --> 01:14:31.039
you know what can I say,
I don't care well, I mean it

872
01:14:31.079 --> 01:14:34.880
could be the root calls of time
travel. I mean, there's so much

873
01:14:34.920 --> 01:14:40.239
stuff that you could do with with
if you figured out plasma. I saw

874
01:14:40.279 --> 01:14:45.239
a video the other day of someone
that made like a small plasma field out

875
01:14:45.279 --> 01:14:49.520
of copper and like magnets, and
it like it was like this big and

876
01:14:49.560 --> 01:14:54.279
it glue and it was like blue
and purple and it was like changing colors.

877
01:14:54.319 --> 01:14:57.920
I was like, holy crap,
Oh yeah they can and we now

878
01:14:58.079 --> 01:15:01.159
know, I mean the earth has
plasma or that we can set up receiving

879
01:15:01.600 --> 01:15:13.439
stationed right outside your home and get
free electricity. You could take a tower,

880
01:15:14.039 --> 01:15:16.920
I mean twenty feet high and put
a rod on it that spins,

881
01:15:17.239 --> 01:15:21.840
and put one hundred volt capascitor on
one end of the rod and a thirty

882
01:15:21.920 --> 01:15:26.159
volt capascitor on the other end of
the rod. Charge them up and then

883
01:15:26.239 --> 01:15:30.520
spin the rod and the capascitors will
start pushing each other around like magnets,

884
01:15:30.600 --> 01:15:34.520
right, positive, pushing positive,
right until that thing starts spinning. And

885
01:15:34.600 --> 01:15:39.880
when it gets really spinning at night, you'll see the blue plasma field.

886
01:15:39.880 --> 01:15:43.680
It will be a perfect circle around
it, and you can tap off that

887
01:15:43.720 --> 01:15:46.319
for electricity. You could go in
there and tap right off that plasma field.

888
01:15:46.920 --> 01:15:55.000
But if the government drives by your
house and see your blue plasma field

889
01:15:55.039 --> 01:15:58.439
spinning around in your backyard, they're
going to come and destroy it. They've

890
01:15:58.439 --> 01:16:00.960
already done that over and over and
over again. They won't let us have

891
01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:08.520
it for reasons unknown. Probably there's
something about the plasma physics which empowers us

892
01:16:08.840 --> 01:16:11.840
in a way they don't want us
to know about. That's what I think.

893
01:16:13.760 --> 01:16:17.800
Wasn't it someone of the scenario?
No, that was they were using

894
01:16:17.880 --> 01:16:25.079
mercury. The scenario or club in
the midte spinning mercury was created a plasma

895
01:16:25.159 --> 01:16:29.079
field. That's what that was doing. It was creating a gigantic plasma field.

896
01:16:29.319 --> 01:16:32.439
That's why it glowed blue. The
belt glowed blue. And when it

897
01:16:32.479 --> 01:16:36.119
went up and flew around in Poland
where they were testing it, the neighbors

898
01:16:36.399 --> 01:16:40.960
said they saw this blue light going
up in the sky, and that's because

899
01:16:40.960 --> 01:16:48.880
it's blue. When the great scientists
Reich, he was working with Oregon,

900
01:16:49.159 --> 01:16:55.000
which is plasma, and at a
certain point he turned off the light and

901
01:16:55.159 --> 01:16:58.720
looked in the mirror and he was
glowing blue because he was working with the

902
01:16:58.720 --> 01:17:03.239
plasma too much. And so you
know, it's it's, it's it's it's

903
01:17:03.239 --> 01:17:09.640
a an amazing thing, it really
is. It's really an amazing science.

904
01:17:09.920 --> 01:17:14.920
Could this plasma put off some form
of radiation as well? It puts off

905
01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:18.079
radiation ring it does, It puts
off a slight form of radiation. Yes,

906
01:17:18.680 --> 01:17:21.399
and that's what people that. It's
electrical and you can hear it.

907
01:17:21.760 --> 01:17:26.600
That's why with ghosts you hear what
happened. When people see a ghost,

908
01:17:26.920 --> 01:17:30.840
they hear electrical sound in the air. Their hair stands up on end because

909
01:17:30.880 --> 01:17:33.680
of static charge. And then the
ghost is scene. And what is the

910
01:17:33.680 --> 01:17:41.159
ghost is diaphanous. You can see
through it, and it's it's an electrical

911
01:17:41.279 --> 01:17:45.720
charge. It's an electrical imprint of
a human being that gets left behind.

912
01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:54.199
It's called the ka in Egypt.
In Egypt, they believe there were three

913
01:17:54.239 --> 01:17:57.720
forms, three bodies with it,
well more than three, but three main

914
01:17:57.760 --> 01:18:01.399
bodies in the human being, the
CA, the Ba, and the coup.

915
01:18:02.000 --> 01:18:08.760
And the CO was the shell that
you leave behind when you leave this

916
01:18:08.840 --> 01:18:15.279
world. The Ba is the eternal
soul that's connected to the divine and the

917
01:18:15.399 --> 01:18:18.640
coup is the plasma body that leaves
you and goes up in the air.

918
01:18:19.000 --> 01:18:23.760
And so the coup is represented by
a bird. And so the coup is

919
01:18:23.800 --> 01:18:28.239
the plaza body that leaves you when
you die and goes back up into flies

920
01:18:28.279 --> 01:18:32.800
back up into the larger plasma body. You're connected to the plaza body.

921
01:18:33.640 --> 01:18:39.960
According to the hindus by the thing
called the shashima. Shashima is a thin

922
01:18:41.119 --> 01:18:45.640
a million width of a human hair
filament. I said. It's purpolition color,

923
01:18:46.000 --> 01:18:50.960
and it attaches you to the larger
body. It takes about six weeks

924
01:18:51.000 --> 01:18:57.399
after you're born for that filament to
finish healing the spot where it's at.

925
01:18:57.520 --> 01:19:00.039
That's why all babies have that little
saft spot on their head. It's clearing

926
01:19:00.119 --> 01:19:06.760
up as it hardens up, and
that filament goes down your spine hits apart

927
01:19:06.960 --> 01:19:11.359
right here in the center of your
back where the center of your nervous system

928
01:19:11.479 --> 01:19:15.479
is. That it spreads out through
the nervous system, through the entire body

929
01:19:15.720 --> 01:19:21.279
into the brain and the pineal gland. And that is that's how you are

930
01:19:21.279 --> 01:19:27.199
connected, and we are all connected
to the plasma field. As a gardener,

931
01:19:27.800 --> 01:19:30.520
I will sometimes I'll take a like, say a tomato hanging from a

932
01:19:30.560 --> 01:19:35.880
tomato plant, and I'll put it
sideways and I'll put a can under it.

933
01:19:35.880 --> 01:19:41.359
So now the instead of the stem
being this way, it's now this

934
01:19:41.399 --> 01:19:45.720
way. And sure as heck that
tomato starts losing its life essence. You

935
01:19:45.720 --> 01:19:49.520
can see it if it doesn't have
that straight vertical connection to the etheric energy

936
01:19:49.600 --> 01:19:55.640
is coming down, it loses its
essence. And so that's why all all

937
01:19:55.720 --> 01:20:00.479
plants hang that way, hang vertically, and that's why we're so powerful beings

938
01:20:00.840 --> 01:20:03.720
because we're one of the few beings
that walks upright. So the vertical energy

939
01:20:03.760 --> 01:20:09.640
that comes down is not hit any
resistance like that the dog has to bend

940
01:20:09.680 --> 01:20:12.560
and go this way, or a
cat, But with us, it's right

941
01:20:12.600 --> 01:20:15.960
through us, right into our nervous
system. We're getting almost one hundred percent

942
01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:20.119
of that energy coming in. And
that's why we get all of our powers,

943
01:20:20.239 --> 01:20:27.319
really our ability to have a high
intellect and uh to intellectualize the world

944
01:20:27.359 --> 01:20:32.159
and see the world and make judgments
and and all the rest. And it's

945
01:20:32.239 --> 01:20:35.840
you know, it's alchemy. That
that is alchemy, and that's where we're

946
01:20:35.840 --> 01:20:39.199
heading back to. We're going to
get rid of all the old science,

947
01:20:39.720 --> 01:20:44.680
and we're going to go back to
casa plasma cosmology, which is what the

948
01:20:44.720 --> 01:20:48.800
ancients had, which is what the
memory of alchhemy really is. And if

949
01:20:48.800 --> 01:20:54.039
you look at alchemical drawings, you
can see they're always putting plasma balls in

950
01:20:54.119 --> 01:20:59.039
there and in their drawings and everything, and that's what it's about. And

951
01:21:00.239 --> 01:21:02.920
it's time now to just get it
out. And now that we have some

952
01:21:03.640 --> 01:21:10.680
serious researcher researchers like Andrew Collins and
Robert Temple really tackling this, I think

953
01:21:10.720 --> 01:21:15.920
it's time for all of us to
throw the shackles down of the old science

954
01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:18.720
and uh, let's put this new
one on because this one actually explains the

955
01:21:18.800 --> 01:21:24.399
universe. I agree. And then
when I'm thinking of these plasma beings,

956
01:21:24.560 --> 01:21:30.399
if that is true, and there's
these plasma beings that encompass space in the

957
01:21:30.479 --> 01:21:36.000
universe surround our planet, couldn't these
plasma beings come to an individual and surround

958
01:21:36.039 --> 01:21:41.520
them in like a plasma field,
And if that plasma gives off some form

959
01:21:41.560 --> 01:21:46.680
of radiation, would that radiation not
alter our mind in our brain and make

960
01:21:46.760 --> 01:21:53.600
us see something that might necessarily not
actually be there because of the plasma field

961
01:21:53.600 --> 01:21:58.479
that's around us. It could be. I mean, we know that we

962
01:21:58.560 --> 01:22:02.119
know that Tesla and is autobyiography said
that he could see the plasma all the

963
01:22:02.159 --> 01:22:06.119
way up until he was about twenty
five, and it was so bad that

964
01:22:06.159 --> 01:22:10.199
he couldn't read because the light would
be between him and the book that he

965
01:22:10.239 --> 01:22:13.479
was trying to read, and he
learned how to control it when he got

966
01:22:13.479 --> 01:22:17.199
to be about twenty five, but
he said it would always return whenever he

967
01:22:17.239 --> 01:22:21.359
got excited or angry, all of
a sudden, it would returned. So

968
01:22:21.520 --> 01:22:26.319
that's where he got his science from, was from the plasma. So yeah,

969
01:22:26.319 --> 01:22:30.880
I think actually, once you start
thinking about entertain this, a plaza

970
01:22:30.920 --> 01:22:34.640
bank could come down here and manifest
and turn into anything it probably wants to.

971
01:22:38.119 --> 01:22:44.479
Yeah, I'm just thinking because radiation
has the ability to alter our mental

972
01:22:44.560 --> 01:22:49.520
state, it can possibly place things
in our mental state that might not even

973
01:22:49.560 --> 01:22:54.800
be seen by other people. I
mean, you might not even be able

974
01:22:54.800 --> 01:22:59.359
to see it. That's what I
think demons are. I think that demons

975
01:22:59.399 --> 01:23:02.399
are plasma beings that get inside you
and have you do things that they think

976
01:23:02.399 --> 01:23:08.159
are funny and and they aren't.
And so they're not just good beings.

977
01:23:08.239 --> 01:23:11.680
Let's clear that out. There's a
They're just like anything else. There's bad

978
01:23:11.760 --> 01:23:15.840
ones, there's good ones, there's
nasty ones, there's happy ones. And

979
01:23:15.880 --> 01:23:18.960
you don't want to call these guys
in too much because if you get a

980
01:23:19.039 --> 01:23:23.720
nasty one on you, you may
not be able to get rid of it.

981
01:23:26.600 --> 01:23:30.680
So not the shift gears, but
we're going to wrap up here really

982
01:23:30.760 --> 01:23:38.119
soon. Do you think that people
can stop doing all the JFK research now

983
01:23:38.159 --> 01:23:44.199
and then stop writing all their books
and all the theories and the speculations are

984
01:23:44.279 --> 01:23:46.560
over. I hope so, I
really do. I hope it's over,

985
01:23:46.800 --> 01:23:54.239
But I don't think so. But
don't despair. Our our theory is going

986
01:23:54.319 --> 01:23:58.039
to take hold here and it's going
to be the one that is the one

987
01:23:58.159 --> 01:24:01.359
that everyone agrees on in the end, just America. Yeah, and I

988
01:24:01.399 --> 01:24:04.600
think that it only makes sense,
right. People have already thought for decades

989
01:24:04.680 --> 01:24:09.720
that the CIA did it, So
what would make the difference if the documents

990
01:24:09.800 --> 01:24:14.079
were released and it confirmed. You
know, people have already had those speculations

991
01:24:14.199 --> 01:24:18.000
already for a really long time.
And people have also had speculations about extraterrestrials

992
01:24:18.079 --> 01:24:24.279
and technology even farther back than the
JFK assassination. So it's for sure not

993
01:24:24.520 --> 01:24:27.239
that it would have to be something
that no one has ever heard of,

994
01:24:27.720 --> 01:24:31.960
no one had ever thought of about
before, something so mind blowing that it

995
01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:38.279
would wreck everything and change it into
a new paradigm. And I think that

996
01:24:38.720 --> 01:24:45.319
is JFKX. Yeah, Well I'll
leave you. I have mind blowing information

997
01:24:46.119 --> 01:24:51.039
about the Kennedy assassination that I've never
told the world and I'm going to keep

998
01:24:51.079 --> 01:24:58.079
it to myself because it's just a
little bit over the top. But believe

999
01:24:58.159 --> 01:25:00.920
me, there's a lot more going
on and we think, Well, thanks

1000
01:25:00.920 --> 01:25:03.359
so much Jay for coming on.
Really appreciate your time this evening. Can

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in the algorithm, share subscribe, hit

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the bell icon as well for notifications, and we'll see you guys next time.

