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have some amazing news to share with everyone here today, and here to share
it with everyone is the writer and producer of our hit movie jfk X Jay
Widener. Welcome back to the show. How's it going, my friend?
That's going really good? How you doing doing great? It's snowing here.
It's snowing and raining, wonderful. Big snowflakes too, like half dollars size
snowflakes. Yeah, it to Washington State. Kind of snow, very wet,
not like an usual Colorado's about roads are super super slick. So what's
the news? Jay? Give us the t because this is what I've been
seeing in every interview we've done together. On every show that we've done together
about our film JFKX, we open our movie JFKX with why hasn't all of
the JFK files been released? And I said it since the beginning that the
reason it's not because of you or advanced technology, or that the CIA or
the MOB was involved, and of course they were, but it's because of
what we have in our film. So go ahead and let everybody know what
you know. Yeah, I heard from a person who's well connected. I
don't want to say his name, but pretty much everybody knows who he is
that Trump had seen our film and he told the person that told our friend
that that's what I saw in the files. Basically that was his sentence.
That's what I saw in the files. So in the Trump file, in
the JFK files that Trump decided not to release, he saw what's in our
film. And it makes you wonder if the persecution he's up against right now
isn't somehow related. And because here's the thing. When they rated mar A
Lago, they were looking for something specific he had taken specifically, and they
didn't find it, and you know, you got to wonder, what was
it? Right? And you know, if I was president, I would
take you know, if I had access to the files, and I could
take him, and he could because he has that job as a job of
president, he could take files on with him. I would take the most
important files with me, you know, the ones that I could release if
I ever need to, if I get into legal trouble, say right,
So, you know, I think there is some kind of relationship between it.
I think that they were looking for something, and I think it had
to do with the JFK thing, because right after the mar A Lago raid,
Biden came out, what with ten days maybe and said, no,
we're never releasing these files ever. So you know, there's a time thing
between the two events. So I don't know. I think that's what it
is. And by the way, and I'm going to try to have this
guy on my show reality Check on YouTube. I got an email from a
guy who's knows a guy in Dallas who was a JFK researcher who wrote a
book and made a documentary and based on the exact thing that our movie's about.
So if somebody else saw is what I'm trying to say, and that
makes me happy. That doesn't make me sad. I want more people who've
seen it to come forward because because it's so obvious, that's why, and
it's they're coming. But I knew somewhere in the ether that there had been
someone somewhere. Maybe I'd heard about it or something. I don't know,
but I knew somehow there was somebody in the past who must have seen this
and saw it went oh my god, this is what's going on, and
you know, and this guy supposedly wrote a book, but nothing neither got
released, the book nor the documentary ever got released. But this person is
trying to dig up both for me so I can see it and read it.
That would be incredible, and then also tracking down what happened to him
and figuring out the timeframe of when it was made, when it was written,
when the documentary was made. Yep. Really interesting to see why it
didn't get released where the person is now, because uh, that might be
what we're looking at in our future too, but I don't think so.
I think it's the cats out of the bag. Everything is all right.
And it's interesting too because if this is true and the former president saw our
film and confirmed it, I mean that speaks volumes to what we've created and
what we've done, and it just proves that, you know, that we've
been correct and all the people that don't like it, or all the people
that think that it's nonsense and that we're just making stuff up, like watch
the movie, see the evidence that we provide. We provide you evidence,
We show you what's going on, and there's there's things about the documentary that
you just cannot deny. Yeah, and you know it's it's just the version
of the Bruner film that we show is just so superior to every other one.
I was watching clips from JFK by Oliver Stone the other day, and
it's much superior to what's in the Oliver Stone film, which is thirty five
millimeter and you know, twenty million dollar budget and all of that. Yet
our version is much better. And the thing is is those crucial two seconds
between right after Kennedy comes out from behind the freeway signing, he does this
funny thing and the hit. These two seconds that he's in that car are
the longest two seconds in cinema history, and Oliver Stone cuts him out.
But it's interesting because I was talking to Seanstone, Oliver's son, about a
week ago and he saw it and he said, yeah, it could be.
It could be. So he said, so Sean Seanstone seen it.
Yeah, he saw the film and he said that very well could be.
He said. You know, he didn't argue with it. He could have
if he wanted to, but he didn't. All I said was, what
did you think? He says it could be? And he's a filmmaker,
right, He's a filmmaker. You sat. He was on the set of
many of Oliver Stone's films, so he saw how they are being made and
those are the people that are going to actually be the ones that see it
and say it with authority. And you know, I was on I was
on Carry Cassidy's show three or four weeks ago, and she liked the film
a lot and she said, she said, only a filmmaker would see this,
and I said, yeah, I think the best people to deconstruct staged
events are going to be filmmakers. And you know, theater directors probably would
be pretty good, but filmmakers better because we know all the techniques. But
what's important about a filmmaker's opinion of an event is because filmmakers know there's certain
things you have to do before you do you film an event, and certain
things you have to do after you film an event, And if those things
occur in a real life event, then you're like, wait a minute here,
right, you know, like they brought you know, there's a tragic
event at a McDonald's or something, but the police department was already ready before
the event happened, right, that kind of thing. So that's the thing,
and that's what I think, the power that a filmmaker will have and
viewing these things. I think that's what happened with me with the moon Landings
and JKA and so you know, and there's another thing that we've never talked
about, and I've actually really just started thinking about it recently. There's another
thing in these staged events that no one ever mentions, and that is the
the spectacular nature of the event. Right. It's like things in real life
aren't really that spectacular, but in nine to eleven and JFK and the moon
Landing, it's spectacular. Everything is spectacular, larger than life, bigger than
life exactly, and it's just not the way it is. And I always
point out, you know, the thing with that that no one can deny,
with the Apollo moon landings. We went there six times. And that
is this. If you watch Picca show or a series, let's say Walking
Dead, If you watch Walking Dead the first five seasons or whatever, there's
clearly an improvement in production values. I mean, it is so obvious,
but a decline in storytelling though that's long run. Shows. What you do
is the crew learns to work together, you know, for after two or
three years of working together, man, they're just they're houmming along, right,
they know exactly what everybody wants and expects, and and everything just gets
better and better and better as a technical level. And that's what happened with
the moon landing. Everything got technically better. The seth got better, the
lighting got better, the scene got every scene got bigger and bigger and bigger,
and it was clearly there was a learning curve and they were learning how
to do it, and they h moon landing got more larger and more theatrical,
more larger background landscapes, and more ridiculous stuff done by the astronauts on
the moon that didn't seem to mean anything like rolling around in circles in a
land rover. It doesn't go anywhere like what was that all about, and
so you know, that's that's that's one of the things that I think they're
they're going to stop with these staged events. I think that JKA actually may
have a lot to do with that too. By the way, I think
they're going to stop. I think they're going to go. You know what
they're getting. When Jay was young, you know, there was maybe five
hundred filmmakers. Today there's fifty thousand, five hundred thousand, something like that.
So there's thousands of people that know how to make films now know all
the tricks and gimmicks and are now watching and they want to be the ones
who see the scene in the in the curtain. And so, you know,
I when you couple that now awakening with the fact that the movie business
and the entertainment business and the news business are all going out of business at
the same time, it's a good going to be a bad situation for them,
but a really good situation for young filmmakers. Just gonna be make a
good film. You're gonna make it. And and we proved that with you
K. So any filmmakers out there, you can make money and making films.
You know, you just have to do it the right way. And
and be bold. This is the thing that I can't emphasize enough. If
you're gonna make a film, a theatrical film, a documentary or whatever,
be bold, go for it all the way. If you if you're making
a horror film, do things that scare the living crap out of you.
All right, that's what you have to do. And and and you know
what's his name, Zack Snyder. Zack Snyder. He's made a couple of
good films, all right, He's made a bunch of films. But you
got to give the guy credit. You know, he is the most exuberant
filmmaker around, and well he picks a lot of turkey scripts, but when
he wants to turn it on, he can really turn it on. And
so I give him, you know, a minus just because I give him
such a high grade, just for his exuberance. His films aren't extremely intelligent,
but you could just see that there's this maniac behind the camera. And
I like that, you know, yeah, I do too. And it's
interesting that you bring up these these other documentary filmmakers and people and people making
these UFO documentaries, right that that don't tell you anything, right, It
just regurgitates old information. They don't give you anything new there, And there's
more answers at the end of it than and all the information we've already had
and already know about. It doesn't really make any sense to me. And
speaking of people filmmakers analyzing other footage, the new UFO documentary on to the
UFO Revolution with Jeremy Corbel, I mean, it says right underneath his name,
it says filmmaker. And there's this whole section of this documentary where they're
talking about for like ten minutes about why all of the UFO footage and extraterrestrial
supposed extraterrestrial footage is blurred, and not one person brought up the fact.
None of these filmmakers brought up the fact that maybe a lot of this footage
is blurred so that something can be superimposed into the footage. And I was
like, as a filmmaker, that's the first thing that I'm going to think
of. That's the only reason that anything has ever blurred like that is to
insert something into the footage that was never there to begin with. Yeah,
it reminds you of a cartoon I saw the other day. A family of
bigfoot are opening up their photographs and their trip out in the woods, and
the first kid looks at hey, this picture's worry and the other hey,
this picture is worry too, And then the father says, how come every
time we take a picture of ourselves it's worried? So, yeah, I
know what you mean. Uh yeah, And you know, I got a
real bone to pick with these guys. I hate to say it, but
you know, uh, they're there. Here's the thing that I I would
rule that when I make films and documentaries, I mean that I make sure
I avoid I never say these kinds of things. Is it possible that this?
Could it be? That? This? Right, that's what those guys
do, and it drives me out of my mind. And that's the engine
alien's way of doing it. Yeah, that's what they do. You get
away with murder, You just get away with everything. He said, Well,
could be, so, I could could it be that strawberries are purple
and green? I mean, it's like it's so stupid, and yeah,
anything could be if you want it to be. I guess so I have
a real bone to pick with those kinds of filmmaking. But I was reading
today something really interesting. I don't know if you know about the Titanic and
the real story behind the Titanic, but that they switched out the Holts and
it's a different ship or is it a different thing or is it the bankers
that were killed on the Titanic. I know a little bit. I'm going
to conclude. This is really crazy. I'm going to conclude. And I
lost two relatives on the Titanic, George Widner and his son who donated all
of his books to the Harvard Library, which is another weird story because the
guy was twenty three and he had a fifty thousand book collection and he told
his mom that when I die, give it to Harvard. What kind of
twenty three year old tells their mom that. I mean, you know,
you know, you know, you think you're gonna die when you're twenty three.
But anyway, it may very well be that nothing sank that day.
We know for sure icebergs can't get that far south, So that's bees There's
never been another ship ever hit an iceberg. Ships go, that's one of
the main shipping lines. There's never been an iceberg problem ever there. And
it the thing the reason I say that is the most curious thing that I
read on it that I've ever read on the Titanic is that three and a
half years after it sank, a sailor was walking near the wharf in Baltimore.
This is the report of Baltimore Son teen eighteen. And he met Jack
Smith, captain Jack Smith, the captain of the Titanic. He was walking
down the street and he'd worked with them for seventeen years on various ships and
things. And he said, hey, Jack, how you doing? And
Jack turned around and said his name, said hi, party, how are
you? And he said I'm fine, and he said my jaw dropped open.
And Jack turned around and walked as fast as he could away from me.
So that to me is very curious. You know that the captain of
the Titanic was seen alive and actually engaged in a conversation, you know,
a few years after the ordeal. So that made me think that maybe,
you know, because JP Morgan owned the fleet right, and if it wasn't
maybe an insurance scam of some kind. You know how all the planes of
nine to eleven only had like thirty percent of their p passengers. None of
the planes were full at all, even though it was rush hour going from
major city to major city. You know how suspicious that is and all that,
right, Well, the Titanic the same way it had. I think
enough enough beds are for five thousand people, but they only ad well,
they can't agree how many people were on the Titanic. They can't agree how
many people died. They can't agree on a lot of there's a lot of
weird stories. One of the rescue boats came to pick up bodies, but
they said that they only picked up the rich people. They left the poor
people. And I'm like, okay, how do you tell you get the
guy with the top hat? You know, come on, They've been the
on the water now for like twenty hours, and every story just gets more
and more, and so I really don't know what happened. They may have
switched out the ships, like that's the main story is that they've the Olympus
got damaged when he got hit by a navy boat, and then they switched
it out and made it the Titanic and then purposely sank it or ran it
into an iceberg or whatever you want to think, And which is a pretty
low life thing to do to kill, you know, tempting to kill like
eighteen hundred people or whatever, but just for insurance, just because you don't
want to pay for the boat. But it was JP Morgan. He was
a total shithead. So yeah, all the people that opposed the Federal Reserve
was on the Titanic. Yeah, relatives, just a coincidence. Yeah,
my relative. He was the head of a Philadelphia bank, George Widener,
he died. In fact, he had the party for the captain supposedly right
before the ship hit the iceberg, and a lot of people said that George
Weidner had given the captain too much wine and that may have been a cause
for why he was making poor decisions. I say, ah, my relatives,
innocent, it's the captain's fault. Yeah, that's really interesting. I
mean there would be a log, right, they would have to have a
log for a lot of people that went on the Titanic at that time,
right, you have to. But all the newspaper accounts at the time give
you different numbers. So it's very curious, not wildly varying numbers, but
you know they're off by fifty, you know, hundreds, a couple of
hundred on each side. So it's just curious as to why there's such because
they have to keep a manifest so it's like, what hell, And so
it's just a really weird The Titanic is the strangest thing of all, you
know, And and James Cameron made a film cover up what was going on
and to make sure that it was all forever in our minds the way that
we think it is, with Leonardo DiCaprio and all of that, but it
isn't anything like that. And then you know, you get other things like
I watched the other film that about the Titanic called A Night to Remember,
a pretty good nineteen fifty eight black and white film and based on a book.
And as I'm watching the film, I'm like, well, wait a
minute, how would you know that these things actually happened? Because the boats
had already been loaded off. Everybody left on the boats is there is going
to die. And then you see pictures of the boats that are taken by
the rescue ship and the boats were only twenty five thirty percent full. I'
say, wait a minute, you left John Astor, one of the richest
guys in the world. He could have gotten on this boat, but he
didn't because he's going to die because you know, he's just that valiant guy,
you know, who's going to die and let the women and children go.
And so there's like the whole thing just starts looking more and more fake
as I look at it. And the last thing I'll say is that there's
a ship that was used in World War Two to ferry troops around and minus
one smoke stack. And where that smokestack is there's a raised deck. It
looks exactly like the Titanic, exactly so. And it's called the Visor.
I can't remember what the name of the boat is, but it was in
Germany, it was in uh It was moored in Germany and used by the
Germans in World War War One. So you know, it's just just more
proof that what really this is about. I wanted to say this in a
bunch of shows that people have asked me to be on lately about all this
is. What we have to understand is that when the the Mafia was let
back into England in sixteen sixty five by Oliver Cromwell and they started the East
India Trading Company and burned down London and created the banking city there and all
this stuff that happened there. And by the way, the reason they chose
London is because you had to go down the Thames River, so you could
create a gauntlet with cannons and blow anybody out of the water that was coming
to steal your money. Right. And but they went to the Elizabethan Theater,
the Globe Theater that's in London, right. These mafia people would go
there for entertainment, and they saw theater and they're realize, hey, we
can weaponize this stuff. We can take over whole empires by faking it,
by creating fake people and fake situations, and and and and and and and
it's all been theater and it works because nobody's expecting it. You're not expecting
it to you know what's going on. I mean, it could happen to
anybody. It could happen to you walking down the street, right, so
you could pull a trick on you. You wouldn't know what to do,
what's going on? How would you react? And so it's a it was
a very ingenious uh thing to do to gain control and rest control and the
Youth Theater. And that's what's still going on today because they're still theater.
I think that that's been a big part of the degeneralization of our society and
the reason that no one wants to help people or do anything for people in
public because they're afraid that they're being pranked or they're afraid that something is going
on from all these viral videos and people doing pranks on people, and I
mean, there's all kinds of stuff like that, and I think that that
is taking us away from our humanity because it used to be. I mean,
I wasn't born till the nineties, but just the difference between being in
the nineties and remembering how things were then, and it was even different in
the eighties and the sixties, seventies and then back in the sixties, right,
But it's changed so much just in twenty four years since the nineties that
it's really unbelievable. It's like this destabilization, this demoralization of people, and
a lot of that has been largely part two the Internet and social media.
It's disconnected us. But do you remember I was thinking about this earlier in
regards to like TV and movies and stuff and how they they didn't really have
to report on anything that had any kind of substance to it. I don't
know if you remember this but back in like the mid two thousands, it
may have been on the History Channel, but I think it was also shown
on regular mainstream TV because I remember watching it where they had this little rover
and they were trying to figure out what was inside of the shafts of the
Great Pyramid of Giza. Do you remember that? Yeah? Yeah, And
they made this huge series about it, and every episode was building up the
suspense, like what are they going to find? One episode, the rover
got stuck in some dirt in the middle of the shaft and got caught on
something or whatever. And then they finally makes it to the end and it's
just a wall, and then they have to take the rover all the way
back with it and then bring it back with a drill so they could drill
a little hole in the side of the wall, put a camera through,
and all you got to see was another room or another chamber thing, and
it just ends and it's a huge nothing like that. That's what it's really
all is. And I'm gonna try and look something up really quick while while
you comment on that, because I think that there was another one that involved
Heraldo Rivera and oh yeah, to yes, Al Capone's Tomb. Yes,
and then uh yeah, no, that that's that's why I I don't watch
TV because of that reality TV or the or like Ancient Aliens, because they're
not they never go anywhere, they don't really tell you anything, and and
I waste my time. And yeah, I know, I got really frustrated
with that Ganter Brink series where they just kept drilling and going forward in that
stupid square tunnel, and I was just like, really, I mean,
and you know, it's it's getting worse and worse. And but that's okay
because we're gonna fill the void with our next two films. So here it
is, I got it right here, hold on, yes, right here.
The Mystery of the al Capone's Vaults. The Mystery of al Capone's Vaults
is a two hour live American television special that was broadcast in a syndication on
April twenty first, nineteen eighty six, What Did I Say eighty one?
It's eighty six and hosted by Heraldo Rivera, centered on the live opening of
a walled off underground room in the Lexington Hotel in Chicago, once owned by
noted crime lord al Capone, which turned out to be an empty turned out
to be empty except for debris. Thirty million viewers watched I think, if
I'm not mistaken, this is one of the most highly watched events in television
history, making it the highest rated syndicated special in history. Rivera had inadvertently
launched a no news form of news where instead of reporting on news, entire
programs were about possible and hypothetical news included in this word news channels counting down
and hyping up the news event like a presidential briefing. While if that does
not tell you everything you need to know right there in that little short article,
then I don't know what will. They're all gonna go away now there's
no money left for any of that BS, so it's all gonna go away,
and it's the funding is going to dry up. It's gonna be all
low budget stuff from now on. There'll be very few big, spectacular movies
coming out anymore. The belt tightening is coming. I'm gonna say at least
one, maybe two major studios are going to go not bankrupt, but they'll
get bought. Disney's probably gonna get bought by Apple or Apple's. Apple had
made an offer. I heard like three months ago. Then Disney's stock dropped
by thirty percent or something, and then Apple's like, eah, you know
what, We'll wait and wait for your stock to drop a little bit more
before we give you another offer. And and so it's it's it's going to
be a really good thing. Yeah, a really good thing, because what
it means is that the alternative media us guys are going to be where everybody
goes to. And I'll tell you another thing. When I was out in
Vegas at the Disclosure Fest, I was talking to you, I don't want
to say who it was, big guys in our alternative community, and you
know, people who command respect, have written books and get a lot of
people at their lectures and things, and they said, hey, I watch
your show Jay, And they go, oh, thank you. They go
I go, yeah, I watch your show too, and they and we
start talking about our various YouTube shows, and we start talking about the fact
that I began relating to them that there's this problem that I know from my
contacts in Hollywood that the only thing that Hollywood is looking for right now is
WU that's all looking. They don't want comedy, they'll take horror. Looking
for horror too. We'll horror and science fiction they don't want any We're superheroes,
they don't want any more. Comedy comedies aren't making any money. What
they want is WU. They want stuff that's just on the edge, strange,
and which is what we do. And I thought to myself, wait
a minute. They have done their research. They know what people want to
watch. So therefore, why aren't the WU channels like me and you and
everybody that I'm talking to at this conference, not like wiping it out?
Why aren't we getting like if Hollywood is really to spend millions and millions of
dollars on the WU, and we're WU really getting, you know, a
few thousand views? How can that be? And then the second thing I
just want to say is that at that conference, which had about twenty two
hundred people at it, I must have had at least fifteen hundred people tell
me that they watch my show. I started thinking to myself, wait a
minute here, and then I adding up, it's not adding up, And
and I think that they know that we won't complain, and they see us
as a giant trove of money, and that because we're independent and small,
we can't afford lawyers even if we could what we find out, you know,
they they can have to be honest about the cooking shows. That have
to be honest about the sports shows. You have to be honest about all
those other shows. But with the WU, they can take serious advantage of
us because we're independent, because we don't have a lot of money and everybody's
coming to watch our stuff. So I'm going to say this to all the
WU creators, I think you're getting a lot more people than you think.
And and I also take that into consideration for like, say like Rex Bear.
So we've I've watched him. I know Rex pretty well known for five
years now, and I've watched his numbers dropping and uh precipitously actually, And
I'm thinking to myself, how can Rex Bear go from like, you know,
two hundred thousand people watching one of his videos to eight thousand? Right,
the videos aren't getting anywhere. He's actor in factory. They're getting better.
So that tells me, and I told I've told him this, by
the way that he is getting that many viewers, they're just taking it all.
They're not. Yeah, it's really strange because some of my videos Jay
are getting the same amount of views that I was getting when I first started
my channel, when I had like a thousand people subscribed to me. It's
weird and I really don't understand it, and I try and not let it
get me down because I know that I'm producing really good to content and I
know that a lot of people are watching. It's just discouraging when something doesn't
let you grow in your natural path. Like maybe that's the point. Yeah,
I think it is. I think it's a demoralization campaign. I think
that they're so remember they're all run by normies YouTube, Google. These are
all armies, like the if you working in a corporation, you're an army.
Believe me, because I wasn't an army and I were in a corporation.
It was like the most excruciating experience of my life. And everybody hates
you and is after you because you're not an army and you say things in
the meetings that no one else and say, and you're usually right, and
and you can completely take idea and turn it into another direction and the guy
who thought the idea isn't happy about it, but it's a better But what
would you do is you made it better? So uh, highly creative people
don't don't last long in corporate, in the corporate structure. So the people
there are armies, and so they see WU and it freaks them out.
It scares them. It really really does in a way that if you're not
WU, if you if you are WU, you don't understand, because it's
saying that your view of the world is completely wrong, and my view of
the world, my wou view of the world. If it's right, then
your entire reality crumbles in front of you. And so then the you know,
the blind is go on, just like we're experiencing with the conspiracy world
right now. But JKX they I'll tell you another thing. When we moved
to Vimeo and went international, my emails switched from if I see you in
the street, I'm gonna beat the hell out of you to Wow, that
was the most amazing movie. And so I say, well, where are
you from? Yeah? Again, proving it my point again that I made
a year ago. Uh, it's going to be people from outside the United
States who were not conditioned to believe all the stuff about the jfk assassination who
are the most uh most willing to say, yeah, you know, there's
something there in that movie. And but and I'll make this, I made
this prediction. Also, the very first people are going to watch jfk X
are going to be the conspiracy world. So the very first review is coming
in on Amazon are going to be primarily negative, as you tell it,
because we're telling the conspiracy world that they're full of crap, right, So
but they're going to die away. And it's happening now. The better reviews
are coming in. You can see that it's happening on Vimeo two and you
can just see that. You know, there there was a curve where you
know, everybody, this is the craziest idea. Who was it? Schopenhouer.
He said that ideas. First they're scorned, then they're ridiculed, and
then they're oh yeah, everybody knew that, right, And I think that's
exactly how it works. I really do. And so you know, I
got I got armored with Cubric's odyssey. So I went through that whole experience
and I realized it, if I'm going to do something controversial, I'm gonna
have to take my hits because that's just the way it is. And so
I was ready for this. On jfk X, I fulk kind of sorry
for you. They're like trash in your ass, and damn man does deserve
that what They didn't even see my face in the movie after you. Yeah,
it is. It is really weird, and I uh and I agree
with you. I agree with you from the beginning that eventually it was going
to be bashed and people were going to crap on it, and then uh,
then it's going to become an accepted part of what I just exactly like
your cubric's honesty with the faking, know, the moonlaning, that's the exact
same type of scenario. And now people have accepted what you had in that
film. When when did you come up with that? Two thousand and twelve
years ago? Yep, takes a while, but yeah, that's uh,
that's right. But yeah, the thing is if you present your evidence in
the right way, it's visual and both films use visual evidence to present the
case. And that's why they're in their movies, because we're using movies to
show what we're saying. And so you wouldn't put it in an essay,
you wouldn't put it in a book, you'd put it in a movie.
And and you know, it's got to be driving the powers that be cuckoo.
And that's good that, you know. I think there's a really big
misrepresentation of when people talk about the faking of the moon landing, right,
Like they're like, ah, all these people think that we didn't go to
the Moon and all that, and I'm like, take a step back.
That's not what a lot of people are saying. They're saying that the footage
is faked. There's a difference between the footage being faked and us never going
to the moon, right, There's a difference there, and it's normally the
latter that people believe and they are talking about, but that gets misrepresented and
misquoted for people thinking that we never went to the Moon at all. Right,
And flat earthers don't help that out either, by the way, because
they kind of perpetuate that whole use that evidence that I got to perpetuate the
flat earth, which irritates me. They're the only people that use my evidence
that I get irritated by. And uh and by way, I put out
a call fifteen times now in the last five seven years to debate any flat
earth or anywhere anytime. No one will take it up. They all give
me phony excuses and they won't take it up. And you know it wasn't
Vid David Weiss was supposed to debate you Ray and then he dropped out like
last minute or something, and you guys were getting ready to go on.
Yep, we're all getting ready to I was getting all practiced up and practicing
my kicks and my elbow hits, and I've been all ready for my let's
go and then do it, you know, I said, okay, And
you know the thing is is that. Okay, you give me ninety seconds
and I'll show you why the Earth isn't flat. All right. You're standing
in Sacramento and you're looking east. It's half hour before sunrise. Okay,
the Sun's going to rise in the east, there's no doubt or if you're
flat Earth, or it's going to be advancing towards you from the east.
So we both agree that it's coming from the east. You disagree on what
it's doing. I'm round Earthers say it's rising or not rising at the Earth
is lower and of course and a flat. Others say that the sun is
moving towards us either way. So you're looking east and east of you at
about one hundred and twenty miles are fourteen thousand foot sier in Nevada Mountains.
Okay, So if you're on a round Earth, those mountains are over the
edge. So when the sun rises or comes at you, whatever you want
to say, it rises on the horizon. But if it was a flat
Earth, then those mountains would be in the way of the sun rise,
and so you would see the sun rise above the horizon eclipsed by the mountains.
Whether it was coming at you or rising, it doesn't matter. And
you would actually if you looked really close, you would see the ridges of
the mountain etched into the sun as it was rising. And you don't see
that. So you know, there's about fifteen different ways that you can test
these things out. You don't even need any tools or anything. So the
same thing you can do in eastern Colorado. Go to eastern Colorado with sunset,
the same thing. Because the sun sets an eclipse by the mountains on
the Kansas border of Colorado, No, No, fourteen thousand foot mountains,
they don't see any evidence of it. So you know, flat earth is
actually really easy to disprove. That's all that. And I don't mind the
flatter as people. I don't know, but whenever they start attacking you and
uh, making the entire conversation about flat Earth, when the conversation is anything
to do with flat Earth, it's ridiculous, you know. And like people
will be like, oh, you said earth one time, You're you're a
globe tard, Like what does that even mean? Bro? The show isn't
even about flatter Earth, dude, and you're in here with your flatter stuff.
The other thing is is that anyone who's actually studied alchemy knows that one
of the main rules of alchemy is that everything is spherical everything everything, you
know. Silent voice says, what about a bigger planet, more land mass?
There could be missing land. There could be by the way, there
could be a hollow Earth. Sorry, but there could be. Uh,
there's enough evidence and the whole sense, the whole world is built around hyperdimensional
Uh. You know, Taurus is that's what the atom is, that's what
Uh it could be that every play because if you google image like south Pole,
Venus, North Pole, Mars, whatever, you're always finding something weird
there, something strange and just looks odd and and and so I don't know,
it would make sense a lot of Sensor is this great book. I
think it's free as a PDF that uh called Hollow Planets by a South African
guy, but it's free and he did a thorough, deep dive into all
the hollow Earth and hollow and he sort of concluded that that all the planets
are hollow and and it would make a lot of sense. So you know
about the expanding Earth, right, the ever expanding Okay, so the Earth
it was originally in this theory, the Earth is once one third its original
size, and it was covered with water, completely covered with water. And
then through a series of reasons, the Earth begins popping out every once in
a while, getting bigger, and that water flows down into the cracks and
those cracks become the oceans. And then the Earth gets bigger and the water
gets more water and bigger, until we have what we have today. And
so just imagine what's going on in the inside of the expanding Earth. So
you've got your heavy molten core or probably more likely plasma right at the center,
and since it's at the center, it's got zero gravity. And as
the earth mantle expands and expands, it leaves a cavity between that center core
and the inside surface, right, and that would be a natural explanation for
how this mechanism of how a hollow planet would be created. And that's Agnew
whatever his name is, who does the hollow planet. He told me that
theory is. That's not my theory. I can't remember his name now,
but a really interesting guy. He wants to take a Russian icebreaker and go
to the North Pole and he's getting money for that right now. He's trying
to I hope he succeeds. But people don't realize is that the ice at
the North Pole is building, not like the global warmer. People are saying
it's building every year there's like a few more feet of ice and so it's
not melting, it's getting bigger. That's another thing that's going on in the
world that people aren't talking about. Well, Elizabeth says, I I believe
we do not live on a spinning ball, and that JFK was not shown
killed. Well, I mean, what is it? Because a lot of
people bring that up, Jay, They're like, oh, well, how
can we be spinning it? However many miles an hour that people say in
well, because you were caught in the the the plasma sheath of the Solar
System. So the Sun is a gigantic battle of plasma, and it creates
a sheath which captures all the planets in the sheath. Right, So it's
a plasma sheet, and it's a sheath. And they're called Brooklyn currents in
in UH in the astronomy, and they're they're they're like uh. And so
that all of the planets are caught in this invisible force field which holds them
in place, right, And that's what's going on. And and each planet
has its own plasma field around it which is acting with the larger solar plausa
field which is interacting with the larger galactic plasma field. And we've measured the
electromagnetic electromagnetic range of the center of the galaxy recently. It just came out.
And so if you have the galaxy, if the center of the galaxy
is this big, the electromagnetic sheath is just shoes gigantic. And so outer
space is filled with plasma, and it's filled with living beings that are made
out of plasma. Famous Space Shuttle video where they've rolled the tether out of
the Space Shuttle. It was electric wire, copper wire that they electrified no,
they did not electrify it. They rolled out about a mile long copper
wire. You can get this video on YouTube, and they just let it
float off into space and it started gathering electricity, because that's what space is,
plasmas, alllectricity. And all of these round orbs flew in and started
examining the wire and flying around and and everything. And they were alive and
they had intellect and they were sentient and they were looking at the wire.
I know this guy who was out hunting here in Colorado, night hunting and
which is illegal, and he was looking through the trees and he saw about
the size of a basketball a bluish purplish light floating through the trees. And
he turned around and looked at it and went like this, like he made
some kind of gesture or noise and it stopped. It hurt him, and
it came over to him and started and he could see it was like misty
morphing inside this ball, like a cloud was in it and it was static
and his hair stood on and you could hear right and yeah, light beings.
And I know this guy in Georgia. He goes out at night and
the first thing he does with his guitar. And the first thing he does
is he says, hey, my friends, I'm out here, and then
he starts playing Bach and he says pretty and he films it. He has
an own film. He sends me the films, and pretty soon they start
coming out of the sky and they're like dancing to his music, right,
And he said, they like Bach. So I just that's what I play,
and and and and that's what's so much bigger and more amazing than a
flat earth could ever be. That I don't know why you would want to
limit yourself to such such a such a concept when it's so much more interesting
and and and by the way, on the same subject, and this is
really interesting, and I'm going to have Robert Temple on to talk about it.
Surrounding the Earth is an invisible, tourist shaped cloud called a Kordlewski crowd
cloud, named by a Polish astronomer in Kordolewski, and it is plasma.
It is ten thousand times the size of the Earth, and it surrounds the
entire Earth all right, and it's all electrified. And Robert Temple says that
if Robert Temple shows you that when plasma plasma creates sheaths, and these sheaths
separate the plasma from plasmas, so they become individuated. These blobs of plasma
become individuated by these sheaths. And these sheaths are almost exactly the same way
that our skin protects us from the outer environment. It's got our skins,
these layers that protect us from different things, and these sheaths have the same
thing, and they're around them. And when you couple the fact that the
plasma beings can individuate, they can create like a skin of plasma around themselves,
and that they seem interested in things I curious. That means they have
intellect. Then I'm saying that we are surrounded by a universe of plasma beings
that interact with us and we don't even know it. And ghosts, all
paranormal experiences are the plasma world ghosts. I think most UFOs because if I
type in UFO on YouTube and I start watching one UFO video after another,
I don't see flying saucers with lights and stuff. I do occasionally, but
mostly what I see is just kind of blobs of light floating around. And
I think that ninety five percent of the UFO sightings are plasma. And I
had a long conversation with Philip Klass, the plasma physicists years ago, who
wrote books about UFOs being plasma, and everybody in the UFO community just hated
this guy. He just hated him. And he would go to conferences and
people would scream and spit would be flying, and I got him inside.
I think you might have a point, and he's like, oh my god,
somebody who believes me, and you know, and his books are actually
quite interesting, and Philip Klass is his name, and so that's what I
think is going on. And I think that these ancient stories of fairies and
gnomes and sprites and all that these are plasma beings that people see out in
the woods and there there you can see through them. I've seen them.
You can see through them, the kind of etheric looking and uh uh uh
they have movement. The ones I saw looked like manta rays. I saw
him in the sky here in Colorado, three of them, and I could
see right through them. I could see the clouds in the sky through them.
But they were alive and living, and they were interacting with each other.
And I think that uh ball lightning has been known to enter into airplanes
and to actually go down the aisle and stop and look at passengers and stuff.
It's incredible. And I believe that it is the new emerging science.
And I also believe that the reason that this science is only coming out now
is because we're emerging out of the Collie Yoga and our solar systems getting more
energy from the center of the galaxy. And I think we're like we're lighting
up as a species. I think we're lighting up and beginning to see everything
that's going on. And I think that scares the living crap out of the
WEF and all those guys, because they know they have to move really fast
because pretty soon everybody's going to be able to see this new emerging paradigm and
they're not going to deny it. So what happens when you have a science
that explains a paranormal? What happens when scientists can tell you what a ghost
is, Well, that means that no one's going to be making any more
money off of the paranormal and ghosts and extraterrestrials and aliens anymore. That's why
they never want to solve the case. That's why they never want to tell
you what's going on. That's why they don't want to tell you the truth,
Jay, because it ruins the entire thing and no one can make money
off of it. That is, that's right. And I said that at
the disclosure fest. I said, I had a sold out room, right
and my whole room saw it. There was no seats. And I said,
this is the one thing that they never want to hear at a UFO
conference. And then I did my lecture because that's the one thing they don't
want to hear. They put, you know, screaming and yelling and everything.
But you know, when you start like looking at the rendellshom incident in
England at LOKs, more like a plasma being of some kind that was interacting
with those guys. They touched it and they burned their hands because it's plasma,
and that seems more like a military experiment to me. That was at
a military base. If something's happening at a military base, I'm strange.
It could be secret space programs. But there's a lot of incidences where just
this And by the way, this is where the word mystical and mist comes
from, because the plasma looks like a mist. It's like I described,
it's got this a morphous cloudy thing going on, and when you see it,
it's just very mystical. And that's I think where the word comes from.
There was this uh explorer. It was in an arcticle with like eight
or nine guys trying I think they're trying to get to the north or South
pole, and they saw this cloud coming at him over the ice and they
said they could hear it as it came. It was and they could see
like little bolts of electricity and stuff in the cloud, and the clouds surrounded
them and they all passed out. Are they all? They woke up an
hour later. Nobody remembers anything right, and they said, well, what
was that? And I don't know, man, it hit me and I
just passed out. I fell down to the ground and he says, me
too, and me too, me too. They all said it. And
then another guy goes, that can't be possible because look, and they looked
and there was like footprints all around him. They've been walking around for the
whole hour in the spot. All four, five or six guys were all
walking around, and so they had almost like this weird experience when it hit
him where they thought that they had passed out and they don't remember what was
going on. And it sounds just like a lot of these abduction experiences where
you know, the couple will be, you know, in their car and
they'll see this cloud coming at them and the cloud hits them, and then
they think they have this kind of weird and strange experience. And so what
you're saying, Jay, is it was swamp gass. It has been swamp
gasses exactly. It is swap gas. And now by that was Class.
I came up with that. It was Philip Class that came up with it
must be swamp gas, right, but it is a swamp. They're called
there's there's certain kinds of these light beings that are seen around swamps. They're
called I can't remember there's a word for him, but there's a name for
him. People have for these things that they see and they're always around talk.
Yeah, it wasn't for sure if it was a gentleman or if it
was j heine that came up with the swamp Jay Allen, he mimicked Philip
Class. He knew him and and I think heinech and I think actually jacquell
A think a lot of them are are plasma actually, I think so.
And there's this guy. There's this guy on the internet, Bruce sees all.
I don't know if you've seen this guy, but he's got a high
our telescope and he points it out the Moon and does a lot of photography
of the Moon. So he's not using other people's imagery. He's using just
what he generates. And he sees these like amiebas, like almost flying over
the surface of the Moon. It looks like jellyfish or amibas. And he's
got a lot of a video of these things. And I want to write
him and say, oh no, those are the plasma beings and they're everywhere.
They may not be on the Moon. I mean, he may be
just somewhere between him and the telescope in the moon. And he's just saying,
we don't know. So, like I said, we're going to start
seeing these more and more. You're gonna start seeing more and more of people
saying that they saw these weird things in the sky. And Andrew Collins does
a lot of great work into that as well. Yeah, he's going to
be a contact again this year. I talked to him for a couple of
hours contact line while we're all playing cornhole and we had a fantastic conversation.
I feel like he's one more level handed people within the community. But it's
interesting that you brought up disc and flat disc a little bit earlier before,
because they never were disc. They never were flying saucers. That's a giant
misnomber Kenneth Arnold. That was a misquote from Kenneth Arnold in nineteen forty seven.
They never were disc, they never were flying saucers, So they were
plasma before he died, Right before he died, he came out and said
it, I think I saw plasma. And where did he say it?
A volcano? Right, Red mottrn Air, which is a volcano? What
causes what when a volcano goes off? What comes off that volcano? Plasma?
What it was seen all the time around volcanoes that are going off UFOs.
The plasmas beings are really into getting that energy is coming off bacano.
Same with the those beings that go to the sun. You know, so
Hoo shows these round beings going and like they're creating a filament down to the
sun. Those are just the giant plasma beings that are everywhere. I would
say they outnumber as quadrillion into one. Yeah. And Kenneth Thorno I think
it was in nineteen well, it was toward the more end of his life.
He was like, yeah, these things that I saw. Because Keineth
Donald had several sightings after that sighting in nineteen forty seven. He had up
to eight and some people say eleven different sightings after that initial signing in Mountaineer,
Washington, and he started seeing that they were like translucent, that they
were alive, that they were like biological beings, and even said jellyfish,
which was really interesting because when I was doing this research, that two B
documentary came out UFO Revolution with Jeremy Corbell, and they're talking about the jellyfish
UFO And here I'm reading this book that Arnold said that the craft that he
saw was like a jellyfish. I'm like, what a coincidence there, huh
yep. Yeah. And Trevor Constable, that's his name. He photographed him.
He had an infrared camera. You can google him and he James Trevor
Constable, and he's long gone, but he was a radar operator and he
would be on the boat and the radar would go off, and they would
and they would think they're being under attack by the enemy. In World War
Two, that he'd run out to the see the airplanes coming and they would
see nothing. And this happened a lot. You realize there's something out there
I can't see. So he got an infrared camera and sure enough he caught
him, and you can get him. They're everywhere, and they're easy to
catch actually, And like I said, they're gonna we're gonna be seeing them
everywhere soon. But then you think, well, could that be like a
light anomaly, you know how like people they go out and they take a
picture through a wind wind shielder the window of a car, and then they're
like, there's two sons on this. You see out there? I got
two sons. It's it's in the bureau. It's behind the sun. It's
a double sun. That one is just a reflection of the sun through taking
the photo through a window or a wind shoot or something. Yeah. But
the thing is is that James Trevor Constable's pictures, if you look at the
object, they have the that amorphous thing going on inside them. You can
see there's this they have something inside them that's and it's it's identifiable. And
that's what I saw. In the two times that I've had my UH interactions
with plasma beings, I saw that same thing they have UH and it's moving.
It's not static, it's moving. And so that's the dead giveaway that
you're dealing with something way different than we think. And by the way,
the if you go into ancient literature, Vedic literature, or even European literature,
a lot of people talk about this stuff. This is this is a
lot, you know. They usually call it fire saw the fire that didn't
burn. So they're looking for words and things to describe it because they don't
have plasma. But the descriptions matched that these things have been around since the
beginning. And I believe, frankly, here's what I believe. I believe
that we live in the Kordalovski Cloud as plasma beings, that a filament of
plasma comes down from the Korduleuski cloud that surrounds the Earth. It comes down
to the Earth and it becomes a human being, a body, and for
a short while that plasma being loves as a human being and then passes back
into the Kordaluski Cloud with the memories going into the cloud. That's the ecostic
record and all of that. It's a science, it's not bs spiritual stuff.
I don't believe in that stuff. I believe in actually explaining what's really
going on here. And so there is no death. You just go back
into the court Luski Cloud. I hear. It's a really fascinating and amazing
place. And it has layers like an onion, each layers different than the
others, different architecture, different philosophy, different culture, different things to learn
and and these beings. And so if we go back into the Ufo lore,
we see that the aliens after World War Two, after the atomic bomb
went off, the aliens are very concerned about a life on Earth and the
ecology and everything, and they will duct people and say, you know,
you guys are killing the earth. You're killing the earth, right, And
so you have to ask you so why would aliens care? But plasma beings
do live here, and plasm beings do have an interaction with the Earth if
they're in the Kordaluski Cloud, so they will they would be concerned about that,
and so they would come here and try to get us to change our
behavior so that they can continue to do what they do, which has come
down here, have a good time, learn how to you know, have
sex and fight and drink and yeah, it's things that we do and then
go back with all the memories and we learn, and you know, it's
a spiritual system. Dark matter doesn't exist. It's plasma around every planet and
start that the scientists are finding. But they just can't accept the plasma universe
because they rejected the ether universe at the beginning of the twentieth century and they
can't ever accept it back, even though the experiments that they performed didn't work.
And I'll leave you with one last thing about the plasma universe, which
is a fascinating story. There was a guy in England in eighteen eighty and
what he did was he got a bunch of dirt and he put it in
an oven and he baked it really hot, made sure that everything in that
dirt was dead. Right. Then he took it and he put it in
a vacuum and then he put a little electro down through the top of his
vacuum chamber, slucked all the air out, and he zapped the dead dirt
with electricity for ten seconds, and he pulled it back up within two days.
There was all these organisms crawling all over the dirt. All right,
yep, that's a true story. And somebody out there is going to remember
his name and help us. But that's a true story. And that just
got washed under the as fast as it came out, it got destroyed,
and that guy got destroyed. So I don't want you to know that life
actually comes from plasma. Wow, that's really incredible. And when you're talking
about burning bushes being misrepresented as something else, you also got like Moses and
the burning bush yep, as well like a lot of fire and a lot
of things like that throughout the Bible. There is, in fact that there's
a whole book about all the fire that's in the Bible that isn't doesn't burn
anything. You know, the bush that Moses saw didn't burn. He says
it's stopped burning. I mean it's burning, but it's not. In alchemy,
it's called the fire that doesn't burn. And said, if you must
find or to succeed in your alchemical experiment, you must find the fire that
doesn't burn. So in alchemy there's four states of matter. There's earth,
air, water, and fire. In physics, there's four states of matter,
solid, gas, liquid, and plasma solid as earth gases air,
liquid is water, and the fire is plasma, and the plasma is the
secret fire. And your philosopher's stone is a device that is that is gathers
up the plasma and concentrates it into a huge amount. Then you just simply
flake off some of that stone and ingest it. That's the Philosopher's stone and
can probably speculation, revive things, make things live for way longer than humanly
possible. Flux Capacitor brought up a good one, the chariot of fire.
Yeah, the chariot fire is the original chariot fire was of course the mercibile
which the yellow him used to fly around in. But when plasma is streaking
through the air, it looks like a chariot of fire or a car of
fire, a ball of fire. So and uh, when plasma physicist James
per Lot, I think is his name out of Los Alamos. He you
know, we're all day working with plasma physics and experiments and everything, and
then one day said, well, let's go out to the town. Let's
go out to the square and look at the go to the art stores and
he's like, okay. So they got to the art stores in Taos,
I think Santa Fe. They're all in the town. They're all Native American
art stores, Southwestern Native American art. And he went and he looked at
the Native American art and he said, this is plasma. And then he
got pictures of his plasma experiments and showed that their art all had plasma forms
in it. And then we now know by looking at the at the pictograms
from Native Americans that there's they have plasma pictograms everywhere now, all over the
American Southwest, and we can only conclude that they witnessed the plasma event in
the sky and that they drew it on made it part of their art.
Yeah, the universe is like our brain, electro magnetic plasma universe. No
black holes are scary black. We just cannot see plasma with our narrow band
of site. That's right. And if you look at the neuro structure of
the brain and you look at Brooklan currents which are in outer space, they
match perfectly. Your brain is a Brooklan current. The I think actually the
universe might be a giant brain. I mean that's serious. It might be
a gigantic synapse series kudapses, I mean going off and and you know,
that's what it is. And to me, it's like the best news that
anyone could ever have. So yeah, but again it's not going to sell
because it explains a lot of a lot of things and a lot of the
way that things actually work. And they don't want people to know the way
the thys. No, they don't, And they don't push it either.
Temple's not getting any push from his publisher. He's not getting any interviews about
it, even though he scientifically nails it in his new book, New Science
of Heaven. Nobody's paying any attention to him. So he's grateful I'm having
him on. But and I know it's the same thing with Joe Ferrell's new
book is about plasma. I know he's not getting any any traction either.
So this is definitely something they don't want us to know about. And and
you know what can I say, I don't care well, I mean it
could be the root calls of time travel. I mean, there's so much
stuff that you could do with with if you figured out plasma. I saw
a video the other day of someone that made like a small plasma field out
of copper and like magnets, and it like it was like this big and
it glue and it was like blue and purple and it was like changing colors.
I was like, holy crap, Oh yeah they can and we now
know, I mean the earth has plasma or that we can set up receiving
stationed right outside your home and get free electricity. You could take a tower,
I mean twenty feet high and put a rod on it that spins,
and put one hundred volt capascitor on one end of the rod and a thirty
volt capascitor on the other end of the rod. Charge them up and then
spin the rod and the capascitors will start pushing each other around like magnets,
right, positive, pushing positive, right until that thing starts spinning. And
when it gets really spinning at night, you'll see the blue plasma field.
It will be a perfect circle around it, and you can tap off that
for electricity. You could go in there and tap right off that plasma field.
But if the government drives by your house and see your blue plasma field
spinning around in your backyard, they're going to come and destroy it. They've
already done that over and over and over again. They won't let us have
it for reasons unknown. Probably there's something about the plasma physics which empowers us
in a way they don't want us to know about. That's what I think.
Wasn't it someone of the scenario? No, that was they were using
mercury. The scenario or club in the midte spinning mercury was created a plasma
field. That's what that was doing. It was creating a gigantic plasma field.
That's why it glowed blue. The belt glowed blue. And when it
went up and flew around in Poland where they were testing it, the neighbors
said they saw this blue light going up in the sky, and that's because
it's blue. When the great scientists Reich, he was working with Oregon,
which is plasma, and at a certain point he turned off the light and
looked in the mirror and he was glowing blue because he was working with the
plasma too much. And so you know, it's it's, it's it's it's
a an amazing thing, it really is. It's really an amazing science.
Could this plasma put off some form of radiation as well? It puts off
radiation ring it does, It puts off a slight form of radiation. Yes,
and that's what people that. It's electrical and you can hear it.
That's why with ghosts you hear what happened. When people see a ghost,
they hear electrical sound in the air. Their hair stands up on end because
of static charge. And then the ghost is scene. And what is the
ghost is diaphanous. You can see through it, and it's it's an electrical
charge. It's an electrical imprint of a human being that gets left behind.
It's called the ka in Egypt. In Egypt, they believe there were three
forms, three bodies with it, well more than three, but three main
bodies in the human being, the CA, the Ba, and the coup.
And the CO was the shell that you leave behind when you leave this
world. The Ba is the eternal soul that's connected to the divine and the
coup is the plasma body that leaves you and goes up in the air.
And so the coup is represented by a bird. And so the coup is
the plaza body that leaves you when you die and goes back up into flies
back up into the larger plasma body. You're connected to the plaza body.
According to the hindus by the thing called the shashima. Shashima is a thin
a million width of a human hair filament. I said. It's purpolition color,
and it attaches you to the larger body. It takes about six weeks
after you're born for that filament to finish healing the spot where it's at.
That's why all babies have that little saft spot on their head. It's clearing
up as it hardens up, and that filament goes down your spine hits apart
right here in the center of your back where the center of your nervous system
is. That it spreads out through the nervous system, through the entire body
into the brain and the pineal gland. And that is that's how you are
connected, and we are all connected to the plasma field. As a gardener,
I will sometimes I'll take a like, say a tomato hanging from a
tomato plant, and I'll put it sideways and I'll put a can under it.
So now the instead of the stem being this way, it's now this
way. And sure as heck that tomato starts losing its life essence. You
can see it if it doesn't have that straight vertical connection to the etheric energy
is coming down, it loses its essence. And so that's why all all
plants hang that way, hang vertically, and that's why we're so powerful beings
because we're one of the few beings that walks upright. So the vertical energy
that comes down is not hit any resistance like that the dog has to bend
and go this way, or a cat, But with us, it's right
through us, right into our nervous system. We're getting almost one hundred percent
of that energy coming in. And that's why we get all of our powers,
really our ability to have a high intellect and uh to intellectualize the world
and see the world and make judgments and and all the rest. And it's
you know, it's alchemy. That that is alchemy, and that's where we're
heading back to. We're going to get rid of all the old science,
and we're going to go back to casa plasma cosmology, which is what the
ancients had, which is what the memory of alchhemy really is. And if
you look at alchemical drawings, you can see they're always putting plasma balls in
there and in their drawings and everything, and that's what it's about. And
it's time now to just get it out. And now that we have some
serious researcher researchers like Andrew Collins and Robert Temple really tackling this, I think
it's time for all of us to throw the shackles down of the old science
and uh, let's put this new one on because this one actually explains the
universe. I agree. And then when I'm thinking of these plasma beings,
if that is true, and there's these plasma beings that encompass space in the
universe surround our planet, couldn't these plasma beings come to an individual and surround
them in like a plasma field, And if that plasma gives off some form
of radiation, would that radiation not alter our mind in our brain and make
us see something that might necessarily not actually be there because of the plasma field
that's around us. It could be. I mean, we know that we
know that Tesla and is autobyiography said that he could see the plasma all the
way up until he was about twenty five, and it was so bad that
he couldn't read because the light would be between him and the book that he
was trying to read, and he learned how to control it when he got
to be about twenty five, but he said it would always return whenever he
got excited or angry, all of a sudden, it would returned. So
that's where he got his science from, was from the plasma. So yeah,
I think actually, once you start thinking about entertain this, a plaza
bank could come down here and manifest and turn into anything it probably wants to.
Yeah, I'm just thinking because radiation has the ability to alter our mental
state, it can possibly place things in our mental state that might not even
be seen by other people. I mean, you might not even be able
to see it. That's what I think demons are. I think that demons
are plasma beings that get inside you and have you do things that they think
are funny and and they aren't. And so they're not just good beings.
Let's clear that out. There's a They're just like anything else. There's bad
ones, there's good ones, there's nasty ones, there's happy ones. And
you don't want to call these guys in too much because if you get a
nasty one on you, you may not be able to get rid of it.
So not the shift gears, but we're going to wrap up here really
soon. Do you think that people can stop doing all the JFK research now
and then stop writing all their books and all the theories and the speculations are
over. I hope so, I really do. I hope it's over,
But I don't think so. But don't despair. Our our theory is going
to take hold here and it's going to be the one that is the one
that everyone agrees on in the end, just America. Yeah, and I
think that it only makes sense, right. People have already thought for decades
that the CIA did it, So what would make the difference if the documents
were released and it confirmed. You know, people have already had those speculations
already for a really long time. And people have also had speculations about extraterrestrials
and technology even farther back than the JFK assassination. So it's for sure not
that it would have to be something that no one has ever heard of,
no one had ever thought of about before, something so mind blowing that it
would wreck everything and change it into a new paradigm. And I think that
is JFKX. Yeah, Well I'll leave you. I have mind blowing information
about the Kennedy assassination that I've never told the world and I'm going to keep
it to myself because it's just a little bit over the top. But believe
me, there's a lot more going on and we think, Well, thanks
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