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This episode of the Paranormal Peep Show
is a tribute episode to Mark Hartshorn,

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who joined us in September twenty two
along with his sister Jane, discussing spirits

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from another world and the New World
Order. Unfortunately, we were sadden to

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learn that Mark had passed away in
June, and so we're re uploading this

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particular edition of our show in memory
of Mark and condolences to his family and

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his sister and friends. That's Mark
Hartshawan on the Paranormal Peep Show back in

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twenty twenty two. Hi, welcome
to the Parallel Peep Show with myself,

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Neil Gettisward and Andy Chaplin. How
are you Andy? Yeah, not too

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bad. Coming up to my hyper
season Halloween soon, favorite time of year,

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and I'm just like a pumpkin today. Yeah, it's going to get

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mannick very soon. Oh, we're
getting to that time the year, the

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months of rushing path before we carry
on that ile introduced. Monica here is

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joining My partner in crime is joining
us the scene. She may disappear at

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any time, so suddenly she banishes, She vanishes that she may want to

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ask our guests some important questions because
she doesn't know them a little bit,

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so I said, come along and
sit in and see if she has any

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important questions. But I think the
first topic of discussion initially is the Queen

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past. I was in the Orkney
Islands visit and my daughter, as it

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happened when the news broke, and
my plan was and it still happened that

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way, that I was going down
after Orkney to Edinburgh to visit my son

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who lives in Edinburgh. So as
the Queen was going to get taken the

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Lake, Queen was going to get
taken down to Edinburgh, I said to

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my son, let's go and see
this. So I said, I wouldn't

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normally see the Queen, you know, when she was around, but this

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seems to be historical. Let's go
and see her. And so we went

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to the Royal Mile and we was
tuning in by her live feeds and that

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about where she was. And then
we saw helicopters, so we knew she

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was close. And then I saw
everyone put up their phone cameras so I

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could see on their phone cameras and
blue and flaging lives which indicated police.

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I thought, right, she's close
by, although physically didn't see her.

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So I started filming in my camera
and then got about five or six seconds

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of her going passing the coffin.
Then I thought I saw Princess Anne,

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and possibly the guy that's really popular
at the moment, which was a man

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used to be known as Prince but
it is called Andrew that and the man

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the man that shouted out Prince Andrew
or whatever, sad or man. He

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wasn't in our crow. Yeah,
he wasn't in that crowd. I mean,

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I would have loved to have said
it, but I didn't think of

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it at the time. So what's
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how do you think that's gone?
I mean, how do you think

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the nation's responded, or what do
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know. I'm not a royalist,
but what do you think? So here's

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there is my point of view.
I'm fairly indifferent about it. I would

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prefer a republic personally, but I
would not want, for instance, a

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rushing leather or French revolution. I
do not agree with off with their heads

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kind of thing. I mean,
what happened then after the Russian Revolution was

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communism, which was just a blood
bath for what did it? Seventy eight

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seventy years, eighty years, there's
no successful communist country that will. Are

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we allowed to swear? I don't
know. Well, let's just cesspits is

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a right way according communist country,
So we don't want that. French Revolution

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as well, guillotines got so bloody
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you know, it's just a chop
chop, chop chop, And all that

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happened was one lot of you know, aristocratic people got replaced by a load

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of other Champagne socialists who just kind
of chopped everyone's heads off and turned it

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into a blood bath as well there
as well. So I don't want that.

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But what I do want eventually and
only really if the people want it.

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I think it's really down to the
people's choice. I would like a

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republic personally, because I believe in
democracy and I don't believe there should be

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any head of state or ruling party
purely by DNA bloodline. But if the

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people really want the monarchy, then
fine, go ahead. So I'm not

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I'm not really kind of staunch,
and I say I'm kind of like indifferent.

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I didn't know I didn't know the
queen personally, so I can't really

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feel that sad that she's gone.
I can understand if people are very kind

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of like you, patriotic, wave
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then go for it. A lot
of people kind of like on the

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on the news and when interviewed they
always say, oh, the queen.

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It felt like the Queen was a
part of my life. The queen was

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part of my life. Okay,
when was the last time you went around

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for dinner? When is the last
time you had an invite? When you

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see those posh banquets of everyone being
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this lavish food, if you were
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that? You would be refused.
So, no, you're not really a

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part of the Queen's life. You
think you are in a way that some

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people think that they're part of the
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You're not. You're just watching it
on TV. So that's kind of my

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view. But I, personally,
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view. I separate the person from
the position. So I have personally don't

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have anything against Elizabeth Windsor, and
I'm certainly not rejoicing in her death.

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I don't you know, yippie,
you know fantastic. I don't have that

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point of view, but neither am
I particularly mournful because I didn't know her

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personally. What I wouldn't go along
with I don't know. If you saw

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the Celtic or the Celtic football fan
clip, there were fans actually shouting and

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chanting, clap your hands. If
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going on, I would I would
not support that. There there are certain

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certain people in this world that I
would gladly clap my hands for if they

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died. The Queen's not one of
them. Klaus Schwab, I can't wait

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till that guy pops his close.
You would be talking about him in Anthony

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Fauci, Bill Gates, Klaus Schwab, Who have I missed out? All

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of the New World Order psychopaths.
I can't wait till they pop their clog.

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That's when I'll celebrate. That's when
I go get a creative beer.

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Do you go along with the David
I theory that the queen was a reptilian?

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Interesting? Okay, So in terms
of an actual shape shifting reptilian,

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the answer is, I don't know. I suspect, possibly not. What

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I would say is this is that
in terms of judging how Elizabeth Windsor was

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herself and the wills her actually are
as people or reptilians, but as certainly

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as humans as we know them.
A lot of reports I've heard is that

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the Queen is actually a very nice
lady and she actually treated people quite well.

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There's a lot of people that were
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Queen and speaking with her, and
she was always very gracious. And she

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also she also told off Meghan because
when Meghan married Harry and went into the

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Wall family right at the very beginning, Meghan was actually quite rude to some

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of the staff and probably did treat
them as you know, jeeves, come

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and bring me this, Jeeves,
come and bring me that. The Queen

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actually told meghanov for doing that,
and I told her we don't. We

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don't treat our staff like that.
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I think the Queen probably was a
nice lady. But who knows what goes

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on behind closed doors and that kind
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or not stories, incidents where people
allege that there's kind of like human hunting

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parties where royals go ahut on kind
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it's kind of a Hunger Games type
thing where they're hunting actually humans. I

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don't know. I suspect that's probably
not the case, but who knows.

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There's there's also an alleged thing,
I will say alleged where apparently the royals

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took over a load of orphans over
to Canada. Have you heard this one,

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Neil? This was a load of
Native American kids in Canada back in

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the sixties or anything. Then they
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don't know, don't know, or
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But yeah, Canada, Yeah,
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that one. What I will say, Neil, and what is really blatantly

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obvious is that every single royal family
in the world has either a reptile or

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a dragon or some kind of Reillian
symbolism. So City of London you got

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the dragon. You go to the
Chinese courts you got before communism, you've

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got the kind of the Chinese dragons. You go to South Africa, you've

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got the Zulus and the Chitahura.
You go over to the Aztecs and you've

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got the snake gods. You go
over to Australian. I didn't know this

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too recently. The Aboriginists talk about
the snake gods as well. Every single

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continent, every single royal family claims
and they all claim this. They claim

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a DNA link to the gods that
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They all claim lineage. This is
where the DNA lineage things. This is

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why families kind of like keep it
in the family kind of thing, and

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why they call blue butt bloods is
because it's not so much iron in the

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blood, it's copper apparently, so
it goes. So was the Queen a

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reptilian? I suspect not? Was
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rituals that do somehow connect with reptiles? Who knows? I suspect possibly so.

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I don't know how you thought about
the royal wedding, And if you

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saw it, it was one huge
Masonic free Masonic style ceremony. You've got

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the breaking of the rods, you've
got the orbs, and you've got the

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crown. The crown is actually separate
from the queen so the crown and the

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orb and the sceptor were removed from
the coffin and placed on the altar by

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the Dean of Winds I think it
was, which was symbolic of the crown

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no longer being with the queen.
And then you've got the whole thing of

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now King Charles with his cloth and
the symbol and some of this was being

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explained as it was happening, and
he draped his cloth over the queen's coffin

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to kind of symbolize. I think
they said, you know, the location

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of the monarch or the ex monarch. All it's hugely symbolic. And you've

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got the when the queen was lying
in state, you've got the the three

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bangs of the sword for the changing
of the guard and the change. It

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just looked like one huge Masonic ceremony. And I'm not necessarily saying that's a

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bad thing, like I'm not completely
anti uh, you know, rituals and

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symbolism. I'm just saying that it
all very much ties into what looks like

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a Masonic ceremony. And this is
where we go into things of what are

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they really either worshiping or trying to
communicate with or trying to link with and

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from my understanding, it goes back
to ancient Egypt, the whole Masonic things,

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all that, the checkered floors,
the two towers, that's a whole

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different story. We just had nine
to eleven remembered thing recently, and essentially

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it all goes back to Egypt's and
I think Prince Charles or at the time

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Prince Charles said that the royal family
lineage could be traced to have had the

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impaler of the original Dracula. But
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it actually go back to ancient Egypt
and possibly even before that. So yeah,

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that's now well digging. Then.
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commentator, as Uneral said and this
point, whoever it was doing the service,

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will commend the soul of the queen
to All Mighty God or something like

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that. Thinking that's interesting that the
actually saying on BBC or Sky I think

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Sky was taking a feed from the
BBC anyway, Yeah, and the commentator

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was referring to the queen as having
a soul going to heaven or something that

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thing, which I thought was interesting
on mainstream TV talking about someone having a

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soul and going to heaven or some
spiritual realm, and they're actually saying in

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an official capacity and basically underlining that
to the head of the state, the

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Queen. Yeah, very interesting,
but then again I suppose you have got

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things like songs of praise and technically
the queen was the head of the Church

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of England, so yeah, and
it was in the church, yeah,

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you know, yeah, yeah,
yeah, it's all very very interesting now

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talking to people going to heaven and
dying and then will we never come back

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in a psychic breeding maybe be interesting. She did, but I doubt very

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much many people believe her. But
we might as well head over to our

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guests this evening because we're going to
be talking about the very discussion souls going

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to heaven and maybe coming back and
returning in part of their wisdom of what

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it's like over there. So these
people I saw them demonstrate in the summer,

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but we know no one of them
quite well now, Jane, So

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I'll bring in Jane and Mark Hartshaw. Are you there, guys, we

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are how are you? Oh?
Welcome, welcome, this is and this

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is and of course you know us
a bit anyway, So there's plans of

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football Jane. Anyway, she's been
seen us in secret things in the future,

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but we won't talk about that.
We were just talking before we started

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recording, Jane, about how we
met you, and you'd actually forgotten.

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I have that to me. Yeah, so I'll just remind the listeners.

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Or how we met is for Monica
and I had been was it just us

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on our own back or did we
go with someone else? Yeah? I

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know it was just us too.
We'd seen the amazing Psychic Sally at the

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Yeah, and they had a camera
guy on the stage. So if you've

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got a reading from Psychic Sally,
the camera guy would zoom in on you

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and your face would appear on the
big screen for everybody to see. And

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I can't remember something the Psychic Sally
said about something about smelly socks blah blah

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blah on a radiator, and I
thought, well, that's got to apply

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to me, you know. I
put my hand out and said, yeah,

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I can take this money socks so
no one else will have it.

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So anyway, she started giving me
this reading, and then she said something

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to Monica about saying, you're going
to get how many thousands about one grand?

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Were still wait for that still the
lottery. Yeah, so we started

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where we thought, okay, not
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we'd put it to one sign and
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filed out into the reception area and
we came face to face with a lady

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meeting that we knew, Janine,
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it, and that's the first time
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we started seeing and she says,
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screen, and Jane, you said
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on the screen. You said,
my Welsh grandfather had come through to you

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and said something to you about Neil
carry on the artwork or something like that,

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and that's what I remember. You
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kind of gobsmacked because I'm thinking,
my god, I do have a Welsh

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grandfather, and how do you know
that I did? Ar So your message

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was absolutely bang on and one hundred
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that, I'd say that, yeah, well done. I'll be honest,

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Neil, I haven't heard and you
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haven't heard fantastic things about Sally.
I know we can have on and off

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field field periods. I've done evenings
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I've done evenings well I've been absolutely
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heard fantastic things of s. That's
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you guys are Andy is a medium
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that we did Bichael Cad. We
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well the old words of voices and
She's got her Bessie up and Shaggy

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from Scooby Doo. Yeah, all
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got bored. But our psychic powers
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we just started to doing voices to
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guys, though you're both brother and
Mark, if I can start with you,

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because I understood that you persuaded Jane
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as well. So how did you
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whole psychic thing, but it was
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had a baby that was born prematurely, so we he and fortunately died.

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sally somebody Elm and were quite mpressed
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kind of helped us to want to
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spiritualist church in Painton, and that
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to go a different way, didn't
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you can run, but you can't
hide, because I knew she'd always come

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back to it. So we kind
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down a different pilthway. I carried
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kind of teased her, really I
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her back. I've kind of teased
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not be able to run away from
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So Jane, what I mean was, you couldn't you weren't convinced with the

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medium, the very first medium,
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you were Did you believe it that? I really did believe I'd seen spirits

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since I was a little girl.
I just didn't know why on earth I

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could do it or who did I
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it was very much a case of
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if you're on you're twenty, you
don't wanted to well, I didn't want

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to declare to the world I could
see dead people. I wanted to go

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and be a hairdresser and do normal
things. So it wasn't that I wasn't

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impressed. It was just I think
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confidence and it was just who am
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with me? I think that was
more the point. So when you said

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you saw spirits, that was when
you were a child, Yes, always

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have done. Did you both see
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you see the same spirit and confirm
each other we're both seeing the same spirit

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in the room or something. Yeah, we've done that before. Yeah.

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Do you remember that guy Mark there
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the bottom of the stairs Embankment Road
in Plymouth and we say you see that

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guy and markets say yes, And
I think that really helped us to realize

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we weren't mental and it was like
a full fall and full solid yes,

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yes, yes did he was?
He? What's the word do you acknowledge?

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You? No? No, it's
think about playback spirits and kind of

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like interactive conscious spirits. So he
was more like a playback you got it?

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Yeah, he's definitely, definitely And
he was a captain, So you

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look like a captain to me,
you know, imagine captain bird's eye.

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That's what he looked like. So
fishy going, but it's very clear and

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then so it's very naively, isn't
it clever? Yah? Perhaps he lived

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there in the house that you were
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work? Roughly it's Victorian big Yeah, definitely sounds like it was the old

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gent of the house or something like
a. Yeah, this wasn't your first

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encounter together. There was that.
It started long before that. So how

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did it all start? I mean, what was the first thing? Look

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kind of like it must have kind
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started to see things Initially not knowing
what it was the first time was terrifying,

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and that, you know, our
introduction to We lived in the house

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in Pove in Sussex, and it
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a radio. You know, in
the eighties, radios had like big knobs,

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didn't they. You know, you
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it on, didn't It wasn't It
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radio turned itself off, but by the

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knob turning, Wow that I mean, well, I was probably about twelve

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thirteen then, I guess, and
I was absolutely terrified, you know,

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to see this not turn itself off
nobody in the room. That was really

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scary. And my mum came back
from taking one of the kids to place

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care I think it was, and
I said this thing had happened, and

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then she told me she too had
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And then I think we told you, Jane, didn't we And then

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we all started sharing our stories of
seeing you know, that I always remember

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there was the white the girl in
white, remember the ye come down the

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stairs and down the hall, and
so yeah, we were all sharing these

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same stories that we hadn't shared with
each other until that day. And so

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if I was about twelve thirteen,
you'd go about ten eleven, wouldn't you

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see? Very very young really,
But but it was terrifying. You know,

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at that point, we didn't know
what medians were, really, we

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didn't know we were mediums. It
was really scary. What was your what

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was your percentage of, for instance, negative encounters, because I'm well aware

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that that happens versus either neutral or
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Of course, they don't do maps. I say, I've had maybe ten

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negative usually trying to infiltrate my dreamscape, and probably about ninety percent positive.

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I would say, but I don't
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I'd say the reverse for me,
because it was really scary. So here,

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you know, just every encountered for
me was terrifying. Looking looking back

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on it, though, Mark,
was it more the case that the encounters

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were scary rather than the actual see
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yeah, okay, Yeah, I
don't think it was helps. Our mum

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is a bit strange, isn't quite
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it helped that she thought the best
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do weigi boards, and so there
we were like literally children having Oigi boards

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with mother. Oh, do get
in touch with the spirits, and the

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messages that came through were really quite
alarming, just for any listeners at this

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point, we really don't advise doing
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I've done a few in the past. I'm not personal kind of not convinced

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whether they're real, whether they're psychological, but even if they are psychological,

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they are quite negative or as you
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We would really not advise doing that. Definitely not different from our experience.

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We'll kind of tend to think that
if if you do a wigi board,

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like if you do healing or anything
else, that you give yourself a

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form of protection, you know,
and you know you ask spirit to help

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you and those to close in and
protect you and whatever, and if you're

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doing the Ouiji board, surely you
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I suppose it depends on who is
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front door wide open and say yeah, anyone can walk in. Yeah,

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we've had some very interesting experience.
Is very very accurate, and nothing negative

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came through. And this is other
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mean, for instance, I may
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mum came through very clearly. Absolutely
everything was spot on. She would even

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interrupt what you were saying or doing
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I like her boyfriend, and she
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okay, you like their boyfriend.
I said, what did you call Morgan's

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boyfriend? Morgan my daughter's boyfriend said
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she said Stuart. And she had
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she goes, hello, Stuart,
so lovely to meet you. Yeah.

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I briefed her only the day before
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Chris was going to come around and
meet you. She still says, hello,

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Stuart, lovely to meet you.
And yet she said Stuart, and

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she she kind of laughs. She
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know, typical, and I said
what was his real name? And she

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said Chris, and so absolutely her
to a tea. So there was a

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there's an organization. I only heard
this very recently and I can't think exactly

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what they're called, but I heard
it on another podcast. They were talking

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about this very subject and they said
there's an organization in America that is like

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the Ouiji Board Association or something like
that, and there's particularly as a president

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of it. And I understood that
she's to have said that it's largely upon

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your intent. Yeah, yeah,
I would, yeah, yeah, so

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I'd like to find out more about
that because maybe you find out exactly where

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we're coming from on that. But
that's that's what I heard. I think

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the difference, Neil is you you
actually tested the identity of the person coming

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through your mum, so you know
you knew to do that, but it

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would be you can imagine someone saying
who are you and he just says,

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I'm your grandmother and they accept that, Yeah, without a testing. I

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mean, anybody could say they're the
grandmother, couldn't they. But the difference

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there is you you were asking questions
to kind of, you know, make

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sure the person coming through was who
they were claiming to be. Yeah,

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I think it is very much down
to intention. So for instance, possibly

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the reason why most wigi board encounters
are negative, or possibly because they kind

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of like the typical you know,
slumber party, sleepover party, bunch of

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kistian that let's have a laugh,
you know, let's foul creak each other

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out, and you know, bring
out the regiboard and you know, because

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you want to screw around with the
supernatural. Well the supernatural then screws around

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with you. But as as you
know, Neil, you had a completely

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different intention, which is a kind
of like exploratory and spiritual intention. And

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yeah, that works out well.
And no, and I think I'm right

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in say this. You know,
the High Elms team and all that they

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run the UFO Academy, I believe
they said that they did a regi board

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session, but they did it with
the intention of of you know, spiritual

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enlightenment and stuff. And what came
through from the spirits is that they said

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that us humans we live in a
reality almost like a goldfish bowl, and

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that from the spirit world and the
spirit realms, they kind of view Earth

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and human consciousness almost like we can
see the fish in the goldfish bowl,

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and the fish only knows the goldfish
bowl, and it doesn't know what's outside

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of the goldfish bowl, which is
alluded to, which I thought was very

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interesting and actually I think very true
as well, that we have a very

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limited view of what we would call
reality around us. Well, if you

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think fish only have a memory of
five seconds, they say, so if

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we have. If fish have a
memory of five seconds, you could run

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that analogy along a bit further than
talk about our previous lives. That we

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don't remember our privos lives when in
fish realms is five seconds or something,

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And so we don't think of ourselves
as as as bigger objects in his ship.

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Yeah, it's only when someone taps
on our fish bowl or takes us

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out the fish bowl. Even then
we kind of understand that there's actually a

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much much bigger sea, different fish, different creatures, and all sorts of

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things going on there. And yeah, because you know, you tend to

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look back at yourself, if you
were a fish, you tend to look

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back. And he's got a black
tiny you know, we know what you

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were in a previous life. The
Unwitting Star. What's the name then,

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Jesse, Yes, see like from
post about I suppose yeah, yeah,

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so yeah, so these spirits that
you were seeing in your out so did

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they present any kind of feeling of
danger to you or they were just literally

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people passing through. It was terrifying. It was terrified. It was a

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furll on haunting, full on haunting. I remember lying in bed as I

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would have been ten eleven, and
suddenly we had bay windows. The whole

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windows blew open all at once.
It was scary stuff. It was designed

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to scare us. Tweets with where
was this and when was this? This

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was at the same house in Hove
in the middle of the night, or

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the windows just blow open, the
curtains come in. The previous people have

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reported it had been haunted for years. It was built on lay lines.

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I remember hearing a baby screaming from
under the stairs. There was nothing there.

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It was. It was horrendous,
wasn't it. Mark. I've never

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experienced anything like it, you know, in all the years since I became

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a medium and kind of help people
with haunted houses, I've never experienced anything

407
00:29:26,839 --> 00:29:32,839
like what we had in that house. Now from me, did it suddenly

408
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,200
appear or how what happened? What
kicked it off. I think it's when

409
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:41,160
they started redecorating the place. Yeah, it was house when Yeah, for

410
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,200
a long time before we moved into
it hadn't it And yeah, it was

411
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,799
kind of quite old fashioned, you
know, kind of like nineteen thirty sporty

412
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,759
star decoration. Yeah, and of
course they're wanting to modernize it, and

413
00:29:51,839 --> 00:29:55,279
I don't think they were happy with
that. No. It's interesting because you

414
00:29:56,079 --> 00:29:59,240
have you heard about this, Neil. I've heard this a lot where things

415
00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:03,240
are kind of ok until kind of
decorations and things it moved arout and then

416
00:30:03,279 --> 00:30:08,640
disturbing. What's that stuff? The
stuff you're not meant to go out of

417
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:17,160
houses gets in your lungs. Yeah, the as beest dost be, because

418
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:18,880
if you start cutting it up,
it becomes more of a problem. Yeah,

419
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:22,400
It's almost like as if if you
left the house as it was,

420
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,799
it probably wouldn't be a problem that. The fact is some reason the decorating

421
00:30:26,839 --> 00:30:32,000
process has stirred it up and woken
up people in some sense. Yeah,

422
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,680
did you see what was doing it? Did it show itself in various forms

423
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,400
at different times? There wasn't it
Mark, We could see you could literally

424
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,519
sit in there in the living room
on the sofa and you see black shadows

425
00:30:41,559 --> 00:30:45,880
walking across the room. You'd hear
bang bang across the ceiling. I've visited

426
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:51,759
many haunted houses in my career.
I've never never seen nothing. You'd see.

427
00:30:52,119 --> 00:30:55,160
I got grounded because this girl who
looked like me in a white night

428
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,559
Jess, she skip coming downstairs.
So my mum would come up the shout

429
00:30:57,599 --> 00:31:00,480
at me, get in bed.
I had got out of bed. I'd

430
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,519
see my mother passed my door in
my mother's form, and I'd call her

431
00:31:03,519 --> 00:31:11,559
and it wasn't her. Whatever was
going on, it wasn't for the good?

432
00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:15,079
Was it? That didn't feel like
it? And what was interesting was

433
00:31:15,119 --> 00:31:21,000
the we called in mediums. The
you got to understand, mum is is

434
00:31:21,119 --> 00:31:26,400
unusual. I think it's the like
work psychopath, a bit of a psychopath.

435
00:31:26,599 --> 00:31:30,839
Okay. Do you think it might
be her energy? Yes, a

436
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,759
pure and I think ours as well. You know, we were kind of

437
00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:38,599
coming up to teenage years, and
I've often seen this when people become teenagers,

438
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,880
they kind of add so much psychic
energy, and that psycho energy I

439
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,480
think was used to do some of
the stuff. You know, so was

440
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:49,480
it was it a dodgy spirit doing
it or was it the energy that was

441
00:31:49,559 --> 00:31:53,119
kind of you know, moving things
or making noises in the house. I

442
00:31:53,119 --> 00:31:57,200
don't know, but my mum decided
to put a kind of request for help

443
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,799
in the local paper, as you
do, and so various mediums came and

444
00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:06,200
nobody really sold it. Did they
know? We had the vicars in doing

445
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,480
the whole JOI water stuff didn't really
make any difference. And in the end,

446
00:32:10,519 --> 00:32:13,839
I mean, I don't quite know
where this medium was coming from,

447
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,759
but they said, the mediums that
the best you can do is move as

448
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:21,759
far away from here responsible, honestly. So, so they moved from Sussex

449
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:28,240
to Wales. Wow, okay midnight
for some reason. Midnight. Yeah.

450
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,319
What was interesting was the people who
bought the house had kind of moved out

451
00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:37,400
six weeks later, oh, crikeer. So yeah, it's quite strange the

452
00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:42,119
spirit deal with you then, and
they stayed with the house. Yes,

453
00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:45,039
yes, so lake you crossed the
road said to the young couple who brought

454
00:32:45,079 --> 00:32:46,759
it, oh, we saw your
young girl at the window this morning.

455
00:32:46,839 --> 00:32:52,279
But they had no children, oh
crik So they quickly moved out after that.

456
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,839
What was the last year that you
had any contact with the house?

457
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,559
Roughly eighty four eighty five. I
was going to ask, have you been

458
00:33:00,599 --> 00:33:05,720
back? Yes, we did.
We went back years ago as adults claim

459
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:16,440
our power back. We didn't know. Okay, did you get any feeling

460
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,720
from it or anything like that?
When you went back? I just felt

461
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,720
it if we were in control this
time. And the house just looked tiny

462
00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:27,920
and small and nononymous anymore. It
didn't look scary anymore, but it was.

463
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,759
Yeah, it was the most terrifying
places of a child. But as

464
00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:32,400
a woman, I stood there and
I just thought, gosh, you know,

465
00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:37,160
we were I think we were the
powerhouse behind that. It's like an

466
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:43,160
ordinary house in an ordinary street,
didn't it when we're adults. But yes,

467
00:33:43,359 --> 00:33:45,240
children, it certainly wasn't that.
But of course without that, we

468
00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:49,759
wouldn't have gone into doing what we're
doing. That was yeah, yeah,

469
00:33:49,839 --> 00:33:52,039
yeah, maybe that kick started it. I mean the infield Polter Guys was

470
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,680
very much like that. Yes,
yes, yes, something like nine five

471
00:33:55,759 --> 00:34:00,759
six Green Street I think it was. That was just a very kind of

472
00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:04,200
like ordinary kind of terrace house.
It's now it's now got some kind of

473
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:07,599
Jesus Church thing to own it,
because there's lots of Jesus loves you signs

474
00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:15,039
and rainbows and things in that.
Oh wow, okay, so yeah that

475
00:34:15,079 --> 00:34:19,320
came I think that came out of
weedy board juice or one of the girls

476
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,159
went to like a church and laid
on a grave or something like that,

477
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:25,000
and that kind of thinks off a
little bit. So it does seem it

478
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:30,280
seems like there's like some kind of
adolescent springboard that the mat there is what

479
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:35,360
the strangers. We moved all these
hundreds of miles away to West Wales and

480
00:34:36,079 --> 00:34:38,199
moved into this old blacksmith's cottage.
I mean it was about two hundred years

481
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:45,519
old and are for all the reasons
it did become scarier. But this this

482
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:50,519
cottage had a barn next to it
that the blacksmiths used to do the blacksmiths,

483
00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:53,760
you know, stuff in and went
in there and it's literally as soon

484
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,920
as we moved in and there was
this little old blacksmith stood in the corner.

485
00:34:58,639 --> 00:35:00,960
So I've gone all that way to
escape spooks, and there was a

486
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,760
lot. I'm going to say,
if I was if I was fleeing a

487
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,079
house because of a haunting, the
very last place I'd go to is a

488
00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:13,880
two hundred year old black building.
To understood it bringing all over it hasn't

489
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:19,840
it really don't come in it got
worse. So what sort of things happened

490
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:24,039
at this other place that really not
not a spiritual nature? Oh okay,

491
00:35:24,119 --> 00:35:28,159
okay, I think it's got worse
because we had a very kind of problematic

492
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,400
childhood, would and stuff. So
it got scary for that reason, not

493
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:37,599
because of spiritual right, What was
What was the road in Hove? Because

494
00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:39,639
I absolutely loved Brighton and Hove and
I go there quite a lot, and

495
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,280
I want to check it out.
Check it out, number three Elm Drive,

496
00:35:44,679 --> 00:35:49,639
number three Elm Drive. Loads of
people now there. Now I have

497
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,679
googled it and there's nothing. There's
no no stories or reports or anything.

498
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:57,159
There isn't a book. There isn't
there. I think it's called something supernatural

499
00:35:57,199 --> 00:36:00,880
and Brighten and Hope because you remember
that guy the store. There is one

500
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:07,880
story. Yeah, it's in there
and fantastic. They called it the Stopford

501
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,199
Family Stop four D And that's our
story in one of them books. Yeah,

502
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,599
and he's just showing some paranorl wow, focusing on Brian and Hope.

503
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:19,840
For those that are listening on audio, that's well, we can't definitely And

504
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:24,079
one of them. I could also
highly recommend the Brighton Ghost Walk. Anyone

505
00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:28,599
listening on the south coast of England
or any kind of people flying in from

506
00:36:28,599 --> 00:36:32,320
America who might be visiting Brighton have
a Google for the Brighton Ghost Walks.

507
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:37,719
They're fascinating. There's a lot of
crazy things going on. If anyone does

508
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:42,239
know of number three Elm Drive in
Hove, or knows the owners or knows

509
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,519
the area, do let us know. Do message the show amazing because we're

510
00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:50,639
tough to know and add it to
our little paranorl Pacha nightmare on Elm stream.

511
00:36:51,079 --> 00:36:57,119
Yeah. So I was wondering whether
that you said it all started off

512
00:36:57,159 --> 00:37:01,320
when it started to be redecorated as
if the original owners, because presumably their

513
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:07,559
point of view is that they still
own the house and what are you doing

514
00:37:07,559 --> 00:37:09,760
to their property and they getting a
bit peed off with it because you're papering

515
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,400
over their paper, their house,
your intruders, that kind of thing,

516
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,199
and that kind of seems to be
that sort of thing that it's for some

517
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,239
reason they're earth bound, they haven't
gone on to the spirit world. I

518
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:27,719
mean, what were your thoughts on
that they're still trapped there or something they

519
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,320
choose to stay. I don't think
everyone gets trapped. I think it's a

520
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,880
conscious choice on when we are,
our choice when we pass. If you

521
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,960
think about it, imagine like somebody's
really obsessed with money on us and they

522
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,239
can't bear to leave their wealth behind, so they'll choose to stay. But

523
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:44,280
everybody's given the option to go home. As I call it, I think

524
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,679
some people are just say bloody minded, they'd rather stay, And maybe they

525
00:37:47,679 --> 00:37:51,400
didn't believe in heaven. Maybe they
were, you know, of a faith

526
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,239
that really thought they would going to
hell. Why would you make that journey

527
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:58,000
if that's your outcome. Yeah,
I've said that in Ordered Hazare people are

528
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,039
too scared to go on because they
fear judge, and you know, they

529
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:02,719
don't want to leave birth because they're
going to face the wrath of God.

530
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,239
And you know, if they think
they've done something wrong, they could go

531
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,639
to Hell, so they just stay
where they are. Wow. Loads of

532
00:38:08,639 --> 00:38:12,400
times I've said that. It shows
a kind of an effect that religion can

533
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,639
have on people. How can limit
people's perceptions like the fishbolt perception we talked

534
00:38:15,639 --> 00:38:20,719
about earlier. Yeah, it's almost
too controlling, and yet that's exactly what

535
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,039
it is. Isn't it's a control
measure. Imply some religious might be more

536
00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:28,599
liberating and sort of saying no,
there are many heavens, and you know,

537
00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:31,039
they might explain about like spiritualis I'm
not sort of saying spiritually is totally

538
00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:35,039
right, but it kind of gives
you a bit of a broader perspective on

539
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,719
things about maybe, oh it's not
quite as the Bible says, maybe there

540
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:44,480
is an afterlife or something like that. So as you grew up and you

541
00:38:44,599 --> 00:38:49,559
became more mediumistic, how did you
hone your skills? Was there a specific

542
00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:52,920
method? Did you go to a
medium for training or a site, a

543
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:59,480
development school or something? As I
said earlier through the spiritualist judge. So

544
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:04,599
we went to didn't we Painting and
Nuke Nabat, both in Devon, and

545
00:39:05,559 --> 00:39:07,360
we really did. I think we
came on really well there, didn't we,

546
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:13,039
because we had a lot of time
and attention given to us. I

547
00:39:13,039 --> 00:39:15,400
think that especially New Nabat, the
people there could really see that we had

548
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,719
some potential. So they kind of
really kind of nurtured that, didn't they,

549
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,280
you know exactly sad wasn't it?
Yeah, in a circle and kind

550
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,440
of just started doing it there really
and then you practice by giving me a

551
00:39:27,519 --> 00:39:30,800
messages to each other in the circle, and you know that all went really

552
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,280
well, didn't it. And we
just found it really easy, didn't we,

553
00:39:32,639 --> 00:39:36,639
whereas other people were taking months and
months and months we get anything.

554
00:39:36,679 --> 00:39:38,480
We were we were just going bang
bang bang, and people responding to us,

555
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,239
and it was like, what,
yeah, very how easy it was?

556
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,880
Could believe it was? That was
my experience as well. Yeah,

557
00:39:46,119 --> 00:39:52,119
I see the circle and there'd be
some people getting I'm getting red red every

558
00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:57,159
week for six months, and I
was getting like I'm getting Yeah, that's

559
00:39:57,199 --> 00:40:00,000
it, that's it. I always
remember, because I mean I was told

560
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:05,119
by various mediums at like the College
of Psychic Studies or the Spirituals Association to

561
00:40:05,159 --> 00:40:07,719
Great Britain. I've got up there
in my early years ten years and they

562
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,880
all kept saying to me, by
the way your psychic, and I kept

563
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:15,199
thinking, but I don't see ghosts
of what's going on here. I couldn't

564
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:20,239
understand it. So I started to
go to this Spiritualist Association in Uxbridge and

565
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,079
they did announce that they did have
a developing circle, you know, not

566
00:40:24,199 --> 00:40:27,920
going after that started there, really
they said they've got a developing circle and

567
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,000
if anyone wants to partake in it, bease come up and reads your interest.

568
00:40:30,119 --> 00:40:32,840
So I went to the guy on
the counter and I said, please,

569
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:36,079
can I come to your psychic circle? So they wrote me named down,

570
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:37,440
said, oh, it's Thursday evening, eight o'clock is the address,

571
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:42,599
blah blah blah. So I started
to go and after about maybe three weeks

572
00:40:42,639 --> 00:40:46,800
there. One of the exercises was
concentrate upon the person sitting opposite you in

573
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,920
the circle, try and meditate them, see if you can get any information

574
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,519
about it. Okay, And I
remember almost going into almost a slumber sleep

575
00:40:54,599 --> 00:40:59,000
because I'm not very good at meditating. I think I'm almost drifting off to

576
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,599
sleep. Remember, this is the
first thing that kind of really convinced me

577
00:41:01,639 --> 00:41:06,679
that, my God, something's going
on here. I remember distinctly lighting a

578
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,639
dream. You hear someone talk to
you. I remember hearing voice talk to

579
00:41:09,639 --> 00:41:14,280
me inside, not externally the room, but inside my head. And it

580
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:19,559
was a Cockney accent of like almost
like a cabby driver at the East End

581
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:22,679
of London type of accent. And
it's because I was concentrating on this guy

582
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:27,840
called Eric sitting opposite me, and
the voice said, Tony, he's got

583
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,280
something wrong with his water work.
And I remember going, what's going on

584
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:37,280
here? Oh my god? And
so I kind of woke up out my

585
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,559
slumber and thought, Laddy, hell, what was that all about? So

586
00:41:39,639 --> 00:41:43,639
I thought, how do I say
this to this guy that he's got something

587
00:41:43,639 --> 00:41:45,039
wrong with his water in front of
all these other ladies that are there,

588
00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:49,079
You know what, They're going to
choke on their cucumber sandwiches or something.

589
00:41:49,519 --> 00:41:52,840
And so I thought, I've heard
of mediums wrapping up messages. So I

590
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,920
thought I'm gonna have to wrap this
message up. And I said to him,

591
00:41:57,199 --> 00:42:00,440
Oh, I've got this message,
and I kind of blum my way

592
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:05,000
through saying I think you're seeing a
doctor about a medical issue. And he

593
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,280
goes, oh, yes, yes, that's quite right, that's right right.

594
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,719
I mean that kuld of applied to
many people. I understand that looking

595
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,639
back on it, but I really, you know, young age, I

596
00:42:12,679 --> 00:42:16,360
didn't really understand that frame it.
But I remember then talking to a friend

597
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:20,280
of mine, like maybe the next
day, on the phone who was much

598
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,000
older than me, and he said, oh, he's probably got prostate trouble.

599
00:42:23,079 --> 00:42:25,199
And I said, what do you
mean, what's that and he explained

600
00:42:25,199 --> 00:42:29,639
the prostrate is what men have and
when they get older, it makes them

601
00:42:29,679 --> 00:42:32,000
go to the loose sometimes because they
get older. And I said, god,

602
00:42:32,039 --> 00:42:35,480
I didn't know that. So,
you know, having trouble with your

603
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,440
war works was quite applicable in nine
sight. And whoever this guy was from

604
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,039
the East end. I wish I'd
described the voice to the guy now,

605
00:42:43,079 --> 00:42:45,519
But again I didn't think of that
at the time. It's just an experience.

606
00:42:45,639 --> 00:42:50,079
But that taught me in the sense
that yes, there is the ability

607
00:42:50,119 --> 00:42:53,159
to have this psychicability. And the
other thing was that I was getting it.

608
00:42:53,199 --> 00:42:55,960
I was starting to pick up stuff, you know, and yet other

609
00:42:57,119 --> 00:43:00,159
like you say, other people couldn't
get anything for top feet, and it's

610
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,719
like they're just not the right people
to be in the circle. You think,

611
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,079
it's again what kind of what we're
going too the second half? But

612
00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:09,400
it's it's levers of consciousness we're talking
about here, isn't it. So if

613
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,119
your consciousness is a bit higher up
the ladder, if you want to look

614
00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:15,519
at it that way, it's so
much easier to tap into home. Whereas

615
00:43:15,559 --> 00:43:19,719
if we're still thinking am I worthy? Am I good enough? What?

616
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,639
Times? He centers on we're not
tapping into that higher energy. So you

617
00:43:22,679 --> 00:43:25,960
obviously got it. And I teach
my students when we get that sat and

618
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,360
sod it. It's not fun.
It's not for us to or I can't

619
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,079
use you know, the water work
words say sojic. That's how we land

620
00:43:32,119 --> 00:43:37,400
our messages. Yeah I did,
that might have been you know. Yeah,

621
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,400
it's clever stuff. But we can
all do it. But it depends

622
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,199
on what level of consciousness we're on. In my opinion, Yeah, I

623
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,320
wonder why some people don't get it. I mean from what you were saying,

624
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,280
Neal. There was when I was
in my circle in Hodderston. There

625
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:52,039
was a little guy called von bless
Him and it was his little chap and

626
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:57,280
I swear through all of the all
of the circles that we did, which

627
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,719
was quite a lot over period of
whatever it was how long he was there

628
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,000
he was there for I think he
was there about a year or so.

629
00:44:02,599 --> 00:44:09,000
He didn't get anything ever, And
he would sit there and even like some

630
00:44:09,039 --> 00:44:13,519
of the little old ladies bless him
who you know, they'd get something,

631
00:44:13,559 --> 00:44:16,519
they'd get a flower or the yeah
dog, and we'd ask a little on

632
00:44:16,679 --> 00:44:22,840
we'd say what did you get?
Nothing? Nothing. You must have got

633
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:23,880
a color. No, I didn't
get a color, you know. You

634
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:32,679
must have got a word an animal? No, No, probably George.

635
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:37,679
Here. We sat in a circle
once with this guy. He's the old

636
00:44:37,679 --> 00:44:42,679
guy that used to chase your friend. Oh yeah, and he's a really

637
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,760
old retired guy. I don't know. He was quite keen on Monica's friend

638
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:50,480
and he used to sort of try
and walk her home and stuff and the

639
00:44:50,519 --> 00:44:53,519
stalker. Yeah. But but I
remember being in the circle with him once

640
00:44:53,599 --> 00:45:00,639
and he said, so why are
we doing this? Se I'm thinking,

641
00:45:00,679 --> 00:45:02,760
what do you mean? You keep
coming a circle and you're asking me,

642
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,599
now, why are you doing it? I said, well, to try

643
00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:09,320
and develop mediumship. He says,
but why why do we want to do

644
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,960
that? And I thought, oh, you're just definitely here for the women,

645
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:19,960
aren't you. I remember I did
a demonstration leadioship in Dorchester one night

646
00:45:20,159 --> 00:45:22,599
and it got really well. I'm
finishing up and going out in this blake

647
00:45:22,599 --> 00:45:24,599
stop and he says, what was
she doing? What was she doing?

648
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:29,400
A noble where he was or what
was doing? His wife made him and

649
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,400
he's just like, I don't know
what he's talking to. They've got none

650
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:37,519
of it. And you thought,
why would you go to something you don't

651
00:45:37,559 --> 00:45:39,880
know what you go into? It's
God help us? But yeah, funny

652
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:44,880
folk at it. So talking about
when people come back to you, you

653
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,639
know, and and there's obviously people
that have not got a clue about this

654
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:52,679
kind of thing. I remember reading
in I think it was a book by

655
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,519
Leslie Flint, or about Leslie Flint, who was the trance medium that had

656
00:45:55,639 --> 00:46:00,440
direct voice. And the book I
read where people come back through this kind

657
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:06,119
of ectoplasmic voice box in the room. You actually hear them any one.

658
00:46:06,159 --> 00:46:07,719
You didn't have to be a psychic, you would just hear this vibrational voice

659
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,880
coming through in the dark. I
think the book was called Voices in the

660
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:17,280
Dark actually and done. A lot
of people that came through said why wasn't

661
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,920
we told this? You know,
they're surprised to find themselves still existing all

662
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:23,320
this side, But they said,
why wasn't we told about all this?

663
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:28,719
You know? So do you get
people that come through that the skeptics maybe

664
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,119
that sort of say, I mean, what's your experiences of people that have

665
00:46:32,639 --> 00:46:38,360
found themselves to be dead and been
really surprised that they still exist? But

666
00:46:38,599 --> 00:46:42,039
I've had a few I had one
last week. Actually, there was a

667
00:46:42,119 --> 00:46:45,320
husband made it come through for his
wife, and I always get a vibe

668
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,320
that they're a bit skeptical in you
know, he's just sitting there and it's

669
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,800
I'm almost pulling him towards me,
And that always gives me the impression that

670
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,880
husband might not have been a believer. But then they always say, well

671
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:59,480
I am now they can't dispute it
now they're communicating with the medium. But

672
00:46:59,639 --> 00:47:02,519
I always get the impression they wouldn't
have done this in life. You wouldn't

673
00:47:02,519 --> 00:47:05,800
have got them in front of me
in a million years. But when they

674
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,719
get there, they can't dispute it
anymore. Yeah, yeah, what about

675
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,119
you, Mark, Have you had
similar sort of thing? Yeah, yeah,

676
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:16,840
it's exactly the same. Really that
sometimes they they will say to me

677
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,360
something like, you know, well
I would have called you a nutter.

678
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,559
You know I was alive. You
know, it's talking to me, which

679
00:47:23,639 --> 00:47:27,920
kind of then gives me the impression
that yeah, they were they were skeptical

680
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,559
or didn't believe, and then I'll
pass that on to whoever, you know,

681
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,000
the living person is. So it's
just like, you know, they

682
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,880
I want them to be real with
me, just as they would have been

683
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:37,960
when they were on earth. So
David said, God, you're mad.

684
00:47:38,039 --> 00:47:40,039
I want them to say that to
do you know what I mean? Because

685
00:47:40,039 --> 00:47:44,760
then I can pass that on in
a really real way to the person that's

686
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,360
alive. But yeah, I had
it loads and loads over the years.

687
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,679
But yeah, you can't lie,
can you want you there? Yeah?

688
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,000
This is likely separate obviously, is
what we're just talking about. With spirits

689
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:57,840
that don't move on because they're afraid
of judgment or whatever. These be talking

690
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,639
now, aren't we about people that
do know that they've died, they've passed

691
00:48:00,639 --> 00:48:02,519
over, their big gobsmacked and they're
coming back to say hello, and they

692
00:48:02,519 --> 00:48:05,960
loved ones. So that these people
know they've died, they know they're in

693
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,760
the buryal world. Yeah, talking
of skeptics, Mark, there is a

694
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:15,559
slight irony. You look almost the
absolute identical twin of Richard Wiseman, the

695
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:22,440
parapsychologist to a skeptic guy. It's
actually he's close to me. He's in

696
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:28,039
the University of Hartford, Ture and
Hatfield in the psychology fart and he's done

697
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,559
stuff. He looks he's got the
same glasses. Yes, that's that we

698
00:48:31,559 --> 00:48:39,079
should get one together, which is
be an interesting discussion. You really how

699
00:48:39,119 --> 00:48:42,559
did you two end up? Also, you grew up together. But I

700
00:48:42,599 --> 00:48:45,639
mean I know that Jane's done our
own demonstrations with other medians and things like

701
00:48:45,679 --> 00:48:49,280
that. And then more recently,
I mean, I don't know if you've

702
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,880
done this before, but we've only
started to see you recently around this area

703
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,840
of Dorset working together. Is that
something that's donely just started or you've been

704
00:48:55,840 --> 00:49:01,000
doing this a long time, work
in the circuit as it were as a

705
00:49:01,039 --> 00:49:07,159
group, I mean together, we've
done it about what thirty years we started

706
00:49:07,079 --> 00:49:10,920
thirty years We started off working together
in a very small house in painting because

707
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,320
we were both a bit terrified of
it. So we used to charge people

708
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:17,760
five quid and we we'd work for
hours and Mark would do the first after

709
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,719
and I'd do the second. So
yeah, and then we were sort of

710
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:24,679
Then we hired tentatively a little town
hall, and then we built up from

711
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:28,280
that, and then both lives get
busy, so we have a few years

712
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,519
off, then we come back.
But there's no one I'd rather work with

713
00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:36,599
than me. Brother. Ye do
such this easy flow and then do how

714
00:49:36,639 --> 00:49:39,480
to do it and it seals us
when we work together, it's easy.

715
00:49:40,119 --> 00:49:43,440
The distance as well, you know, like I was selming down and James

716
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,119
in Dorset, so that the geography
makes it difficult to do more together.

717
00:49:47,159 --> 00:49:52,440
I think we would if there is
Mark. Oh yeah, it's a similarity.

718
00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:58,679
Yeah, thanks, But yeah,
I mean because and time as well,

719
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,559
you know, it makes it very
difficult. I mean I literally have

720
00:50:00,599 --> 00:50:05,480
worked all over the world doing it. I've worked at SAGB that you were

721
00:50:05,519 --> 00:50:07,599
just mentioning in the College of Psychic
Studies. I've been to Japan, America

722
00:50:07,639 --> 00:50:10,559
and Europe, so you know,
like I was doing that on my own.

723
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,639
I think at that time I was
waiting for Jane to stop running away

724
00:50:14,679 --> 00:50:19,519
and coming back to So how did
the Japanese people take spiritualism and psychic for

725
00:50:19,599 --> 00:50:23,000
mediums? Uh? Well, it
was a it was very interesting, but

726
00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:25,840
I don't know, to be honest, what my experience was that all they

727
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,679
wanted to know about was what they'd
done in their previous lives, because of

728
00:50:29,679 --> 00:50:32,559
course in Japan it's or Buddhist that
their religion is Buddhism, and u Shinto

729
00:50:32,679 --> 00:50:38,960
so many Buddhists, so they weren't
really that interested in what their relatives might

730
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:43,280
say more about what did they do
in past life and what do they still

731
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,960
need to learn? They seemed to
all they seem to come about is past

732
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:49,519
lives and learning. Interesting there was. It was a very strange experience that

733
00:50:49,679 --> 00:50:52,880
was not speaking a word of Japanese, so so you had a Pan slate

734
00:50:53,159 --> 00:50:57,679
presumably working with you would have to
sort of translate what you were getting as

735
00:50:57,679 --> 00:51:01,880
impressions through that. Quite a quite
a feat of gymnastics, really, isn't

736
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:07,079
it. Yeah. Wow, was
exhausting because all the things in English that

737
00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:09,880
we use, like phrases that we
use and understand, like you know,

738
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:14,880
someone is really down to a sort
of the earth. You know, society

739
00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:20,360
actually means nothing to All of those
phrases that I would orders already use to

740
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:24,280
describe someone had to be rethought because
because what's the translator going to do with

741
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:30,480
that, Like this is somebody who
is salt of the earth. So everything

742
00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:34,519
had to be pretty's to really plain
language. So it was so knackering rewording

743
00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:37,880
everything for the benefit of the translator. Yeah, getting back to the goal

744
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,039
of issue, could say they're very
salty fish or something. Yeah, that's

745
00:51:42,039 --> 00:51:46,360
more Japanese. Interesting on the Japanese
front is that when they've done kind of

746
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:52,639
like a broad tests of people having
near death experiences. You know, in

747
00:51:52,679 --> 00:51:55,360
this country and in the West,
we tend to the reports say anyway that

748
00:51:55,559 --> 00:51:59,400
we will pass out of our body
and go through a tonnel of light and

749
00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:04,719
something like that. In Japan,
for some reason, they find themselves when

750
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,440
they go out of their body.
They don't go through a tunnel light.

751
00:52:07,519 --> 00:52:12,280
They find themselves tending to a garden. Isn't that weird? They're all in

752
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,920
a garden digging flowers or something,
you know, very very Japanese style,

753
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:21,800
which is it shows us kind of
cultural perception of where you're going to go,

754
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,440
what's happened to you? Well,
you might end up in the same

755
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:29,079
place, but it's going to be
culturally structure's your idea of the way of

756
00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:30,880
things. I suspect it absolutely has
to be. Otherwise it's going to be

757
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:35,000
a bit free, isn't it.
Yeah, Yeah, that's right. It

758
00:52:35,119 --> 00:52:38,920
has to be some sense of familiarity, even if it's like some sort of

759
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:45,079
illusion on your spirit, mind or
whatever you want to call it. Yeah,

760
00:52:45,199 --> 00:52:49,079
have you had any out of body
experiences? Any of you? Jane

761
00:52:49,079 --> 00:52:53,719
does, I died once and come
back. That's how did that come about?

762
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:58,039
I mean, I'd had a miscarriage
and they gave me a DNC,

763
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,639
but they'd infected me whilst on the
tape as they sent me home, and

764
00:53:00,679 --> 00:53:05,079
I remember going to bed that day
not quite right and a lot of pain.

765
00:53:05,119 --> 00:53:07,239
And my little boy, who was
too was in bed with me at

766
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,239
the time, and I was such
pain. I come up out of my

767
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:13,760
body. I looked down at myself. I could see myself very clearly,

768
00:53:14,079 --> 00:53:19,079
and there was like a pull towards
this light and it was intoxicating. I

769
00:53:19,119 --> 00:53:21,199
wanted to go. It was peaceful. It was like, come on,

770
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:23,719
and I was going to go,
and something about me said if you go,

771
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:28,119
you're going to leave Jack behind,
my son, and that was enough.

772
00:53:28,199 --> 00:53:30,840
I come back into my body and
as I come around, they would

773
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,480
give me an injection and the ambulance
man said, we lost you there,

774
00:53:32,599 --> 00:53:37,400
Jane. So for me, if
that's dying, come on, there't nothing

775
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,920
to worry about. It was the
most peaceful, loving experience I've ever ever

776
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,360
ever had. It was It gave
me gusto to do the work again.

777
00:53:46,679 --> 00:53:51,360
It was amazing. Lots of people
that have OBEs do you say that?

778
00:53:51,639 --> 00:53:54,000
Yeah, yeah, they say it's
very deep, come back. You don't

779
00:53:54,039 --> 00:53:58,159
want to come back to this,
this vibration, this heaviness, Why would

780
00:53:58,199 --> 00:54:00,360
you want to come back to it? It was like, oh but Jack,

781
00:54:00,639 --> 00:54:02,719
the love for my son brought me
back without a doubt. Yeah.

782
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:08,480
Yeah, wow. So when you're
sort of talking to these spirits, do

783
00:54:08,519 --> 00:54:14,119
you, I mean, mediums tend
to see things as images in the mind.

784
00:54:14,639 --> 00:54:16,800
Yeah, sometimes voices. How does
it work for you? Guys?

785
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:21,880
You just see all three like hear
voices, see images or feelings? What's

786
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:28,639
the predominant factor that communicates that something's
coming through Godbut even go first, don't

787
00:54:28,679 --> 00:54:34,199
hear anything. It's it's images in
the mind's eye and feelings like clear sentience

788
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:38,599
or I feel things and an image. But sometimes the image that I'm shown

789
00:54:38,639 --> 00:54:43,000
may not actually be the right thing. So it could be like, you

790
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,159
know, I'm just showing an old
fashioned car for example, So it may

791
00:54:45,199 --> 00:54:49,599
not be the old fashioned car that
somebody had, but it would just get

792
00:54:49,679 --> 00:54:52,079
me to say old fashioned car.
Yeah. So you know, the images

793
00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:57,559
aren't necessarily on hundredercent accurate to the
specific things. So it's more of these

794
00:54:57,599 --> 00:55:00,159
images that help me to portray the
message. And like a like a feeling

795
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:05,440
sometimes like I'll get a physical pain
in my chest if someone with a heart

796
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,679
attack, or I'll get like a
gut feeling if I feel this is someone's

797
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:13,880
mum or one's grandmother. So it's
very much working with feelings and energies and

798
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:21,400
visions thing. I back up the
visions thing and getting you to say things.

799
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,840
The other day I did a night
in Abingdon and I saw an image

800
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:30,519
of Les Dawson and the person that
was communicating wasn't Les Dawson, but it

801
00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:35,199
wasn't called Les. Yeah, but
it was to get me because I know

802
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,159
Les Dawson. Yeah, Les Dawson
looks like it's to get me to say

803
00:55:38,159 --> 00:55:40,800
the word lez. Yeah, I
got it. Yeah. I did an

804
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:45,159
evening once in a town hall and
there was a picture of the Queen on

805
00:55:45,199 --> 00:55:46,719
the wall and I thought, oh, so you've got to be quite quick

806
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:50,039
brained with this, haven't you,
Because everyone's looking at you. So I

807
00:55:50,079 --> 00:55:52,599
knew it must be Elizabeth. And
the woman I was talking to you was

808
00:55:52,599 --> 00:55:57,079
called Elizabeth. The spirit will use
anything and everything in our memory bank or

809
00:55:57,119 --> 00:55:59,840
around us to get the message through, and I think going back to the

810
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,599
oh yeah, it could be the
people don't get this because they're not quick

811
00:56:01,599 --> 00:56:07,079
brained enough. It's got to be
quick that the information comes through so quickly

812
00:56:07,119 --> 00:56:10,119
to me. Sometimes it just feels
like it's just passing through my mouth without

813
00:56:10,159 --> 00:56:15,159
me having any input. Yeah,
I think you've got to be very quick.

814
00:56:15,199 --> 00:56:17,079
I remember, I think it was
a Weymouth spiritually church actually, And

815
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:22,679
there was in my mind that in
my mind's eye was a pick packet of

816
00:56:22,679 --> 00:56:25,280
those old fashioned remember the salt and
shape crisps. Yeah, you have a

817
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:29,719
little blue packet in and yeah,
yeah, And I just I wasn't.

818
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,760
My mind couldn't get there quick enough. But why the hell you know this

819
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:36,280
person like crisps? Did they be
like playing crisps? What was it?

820
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,039
Because it turns out that the and
I think the member of the audience actually

821
00:56:39,039 --> 00:56:42,239
helped me with this. I said, I do not know why this this

822
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,760
packet of crisps then, and they
said, well, it could be because

823
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,400
they were called smith and it was
like seeing the Smith's crisps. But I

824
00:56:47,519 --> 00:56:51,920
cam down the line of the salty
thing, you know what I mean?

825
00:56:52,039 --> 00:56:54,519
It really complicated that one. But
yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't get

826
00:56:54,519 --> 00:57:00,119
that quick enough. So the person
he helped me out give that because Andy,

827
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:02,480
Yeah, rapping interesting one way.
You was doing reading and you got

828
00:57:02,519 --> 00:57:08,679
someone's cat come through. Didn't you
remember the name of the cat, And

829
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:15,880
they said, can you get his
name? Some ship? Wow, trains,

830
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:21,760
train everybody where? Did that come
from? What was that about?

831
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,719
That's me, that's me. I
don't remember the cat thing. I do.

832
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:29,360
I do remember a similar thing though, Neil. I was trying to

833
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,159
communicate. We were just for fun. We were just trying to communicate things

834
00:57:32,199 --> 00:57:37,079
to each other with another spiritual friend
of mine. And I saw, uh,

835
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:43,360
basically a chocolate box and I said
to her, chocolates. You understand

836
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,559
chocolates. You said, no,
that's not the object. It's nothing near

837
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,719
what the chocolates was. And I
said, what was it? And I

838
00:57:50,039 --> 00:57:53,800
actually saw, you know, Cabri's
roses, the chocolates with the rose on

839
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:58,400
the front. She actually said,
my object was a rose. Ah.

840
00:57:58,559 --> 00:58:01,559
It's annoying and sometimes knowing. Yeah, I'll remind you Andy, because you

841
00:58:01,599 --> 00:58:05,719
told me, because it's I think
I've come to see you at this demo.

842
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,840
But then I had to leave and
you told me afterwards how it had

843
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:12,880
gone. And you were given a
reading to someone and you brought back their

844
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,519
cat and something like they'd asked,
soul, what's its name? And all

845
00:58:15,559 --> 00:58:20,400
you saw was a jar of marmite
in your head, right, And that's

846
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,119
what you said, And they said, yeah, that's the name of the

847
00:58:22,119 --> 00:58:25,320
cat. Marmite was the name of
the cat. See I don't remember that.

848
00:58:25,599 --> 00:58:28,840
Well. Yeah, I remember telling
me. I was impressed. I

849
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,760
thought they're very good. Yeah.
And again with my own development, I've

850
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:36,880
started to get quite good at picking
up names. And I remember when my

851
00:58:37,039 --> 00:58:42,639
daughter started going out with Stewart,
who's really called Chris the boyfriend? Is

852
00:58:42,679 --> 00:58:45,360
that? She I was saying,
Oh, Morgan, that's the name of

853
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,559
all. I said. I seem
to be quite good of getting names now

854
00:58:47,599 --> 00:58:52,400
in spiritualist set psych except so she
goes, oh, can you tell me

855
00:58:52,719 --> 00:58:57,159
the name of Chris's mom be?
And I thought, oh, that's put

856
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,760
me on the spot. So she
goes, I'll give you a clue,

857
00:59:00,079 --> 00:59:02,039
begins with that, and I said, no, I don't want a clue.

858
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,679
I said, old Mary. And
she goes, oh, my god,

859
00:59:05,679 --> 00:59:07,519
how did you know, I said, we did say the letter.

860
00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:10,880
Yeah. So she goes, okay, can you get the name of his

861
00:59:12,039 --> 00:59:17,360
dad? And I saw my own
dad appear in my mind. My dad's

862
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:22,280
name is Brian, so I just
said Brian and she goes, oh my

863
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:24,119
god, how did you go there? Because I said, I saw my

864
00:59:24,159 --> 00:59:30,320
own dad and his name. So
like you say Smith's Crisps or you get

865
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:36,320
shown something, and I remember seeing
who's that really good meeting that's on TV

866
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:40,079
and stage Tony Stockwell, Yeah,
I saw him at a Spirituist church in

867
00:59:40,199 --> 00:59:45,800
Yeah, brilliant, I like,
because I think it was. And the

868
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:51,599
person I was told me that their
their friend had died of cancer, but

869
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:57,519
asbestos based cancer. That is a
specific type of cancer. And anyway,

870
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,880
Tony Stockwell does this kind of thing
where he takes a photograph. If everyone

871
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:04,880
puts a photograph in a box or
something, he'd take out the photogop and

872
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,920
he hold it to his head.
And they started tuning into this purse,

873
01:00:07,679 --> 01:00:12,760
and he happened to pick my friend's
photograph up, the very first one.

874
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,280
So he started tuning and said,
yeah, this person has a bar in

875
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:16,679
their own home, which you know, not many people have a bar with

876
01:00:16,719 --> 01:00:20,800
drinks in their own home. And
apparently that was true, and then he

877
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:27,199
said this person died of cancer.
And he said died of asbestos poisoning cancer.

878
01:00:27,599 --> 01:00:30,000
And I was like, oh my
god, I've only just been old

879
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:32,440
Earl this evening. That guy died
of aspestov So how the bloody hell did

880
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,840
he get that? So at the
end of the evening I went up and

881
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,760
said, you did really well.
How did you get specifically asbestos cancer?

882
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,239
You know, being a medium,
we kind of want to know these things

883
01:00:42,239 --> 01:00:45,840
how they do that? And he
said what happened was his own grandfather had

884
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:51,880
a motorcycle which had a sidecar which
was made of asbestos cans. And he

885
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,800
said that every time he was showing
that sidecar or the motorbike, he knew

886
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:59,480
that the Spirit award was referring to
asbestos. Right, So he picked up

887
01:00:59,519 --> 01:01:01,639
cancer and he saw the best and
said, yeah, that's as beestous poisoning

888
01:01:01,679 --> 01:01:06,320
thing, you know. So it's
very interesting that they start to use techniques

889
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:07,840
that work for you but may not
be working. Brothers. And I remember

890
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:13,199
seeing Jane the demo that you did
with Gin in that video filmed and there

891
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,480
was a lady there with her I
think this was a grandmother there with her

892
01:01:16,679 --> 01:01:23,119
granddaughter and the mother the girl's mother's
communicating, and you suddenly said, I've

893
01:01:23,159 --> 01:01:30,880
got your mum's name. Her name
was what's that song? D the Who's

894
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:37,800
that singer Dolly Parton? Joline?
Her name was Joline because you were hearing

895
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:43,000
the song Jolie, Yeah you're in
the song Joline by Dolly Pine. Was

896
01:01:43,039 --> 01:01:45,199
her name Joline? And they said, yes, that's how they got the

897
01:01:45,239 --> 01:01:47,599
name through to you see good good
stuff. And it forgot that, didn't

898
01:01:47,639 --> 01:01:52,119
you. I don't probably same as
us, guys. We don't remember when

899
01:01:52,159 --> 01:01:55,760
we said it. Could you can
pintain it? You're in anno state of

900
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,519
some sort of consciousness and I think, oh, yeah, yeah, I

901
01:01:59,639 --> 01:02:01,239
remember certain things, but a lot
of me you forget, don't you.

902
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:06,440
It's I try and describe it as
almost like what I've got to do is

903
01:02:06,559 --> 01:02:09,039
raise my consciousness up here spirit.
I got to drop it a little bit.

904
01:02:09,599 --> 01:02:13,239
And I don't know about you,
guys. Andrew Mark says, he's

905
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,559
right, but when I finished these
days, it takes me two or three

906
01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:19,559
days to recover from it. Moving
I'm getting old, I don't know,

907
01:02:19,639 --> 01:02:22,719
but to me now, it's exhausting
to do an hour and a half and

908
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:28,239
hold that energy. It feels like
a very big hangover. Prefer to do

909
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:31,239
it together isn't it kind of easier? Yea yea the evening. I mean

910
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:35,320
I too would struggle now to do
like an hour and a half on my

911
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:39,239
own, but not in our young
years. It would have been free.

912
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:45,719
Yeah, definitely for that very reason. Yeah, I chopped my little thing

913
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,800
up into segments, and if I'm
doing a night, I'll have other readers

914
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:53,239
doing their things, so like swapping
over and recently I'll be doing demos with

915
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:59,000
a girl called Kerry and we literally
swap swap, swap swap. That makes

916
01:02:59,039 --> 01:03:01,079
it so much easier. It does. I could do like ten minutes and

917
01:03:01,079 --> 01:03:05,119
then just sit down and have a
break ten minutes then I yeah, that

918
01:03:05,199 --> 01:03:08,800
works really the way forward after four
in the it is do you finally both

919
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:12,760
community hate the same spirit? In
the demo? I mean, I've seen

920
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,960
these two guys. I think they'll
call three minions, but one guy wasn't

921
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:19,760
there on that night. But what
they did was quite clever. Y we

922
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:24,239
want a clever piece of a clever
gimmicky thing that they did was that they

923
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:30,960
would guess the person's pin number of
their Bibit card. And the first meetium

924
01:03:31,039 --> 01:03:34,519
say your pin, and they say
we're going to give you a pin number,

925
01:03:34,559 --> 01:03:37,800
but we're not going to give you
the exact order it is. The

926
01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,320
first guy will go seven three,
the other blower two four, and the

927
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:45,679
lady goes, yeah, you're right, and she's juggling the numbers around inn

928
01:03:45,679 --> 01:03:47,039
her head to sort of say,
yes, that is my pin now,

929
01:03:47,079 --> 01:03:51,079
you know, and it's like they're
so confident they can do it, and

930
01:03:51,159 --> 01:03:53,639
it's really you know, I just
wondered if to me that to me that

931
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:59,079
just kind of like I find that
to me personally demeans the whole topic slightly,

932
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:00,920
because I think I started whitkly that
I got your pin number, what

933
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:08,039
we're doing, I'm only there as
some proof that like I don't want to

934
01:04:08,039 --> 01:04:12,039
be I'm not an entertainer. No, I don't like it. I don't

935
01:04:12,079 --> 01:04:15,519
like if we've done like the shed
spirit, haven't we were? We've literally

936
01:04:15,559 --> 01:04:18,719
give both of us have done it. But if Mark suddenly said I fancy

937
01:04:18,719 --> 01:04:21,760
giving out pin numbers, I'll be
like, NAM, all right. It

938
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:26,119
always hands like a common job,
doesn't it? Creative credibility a bit?

939
01:04:26,159 --> 01:04:29,639
Why do you need to do that? I don't know, sidekick rather than

940
01:04:30,079 --> 01:04:35,159
medium stick anyway? Well, mentalism, isn't it it's more mentalism burst into

941
01:04:35,519 --> 01:04:41,880
I am and actually mentioning the psychic
bit. Why hadn't mind When you actually

942
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:46,320
do medium ship, do you get
a combination of channeling stuff and psychic stuff

943
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:49,800
as well? And yet as I
only box it out, Yeah, one

944
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:53,679
hundred percent, the psychic books the
message out, if that makes sense.

945
01:04:54,679 --> 01:04:58,239
So my your your nan isn't particularly
wide what you had for tea last night,

946
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,559
believe it or not, but I
picked out from you psychically, so

947
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,599
psychic in my opinion, it's like
sandwich fin it just fills it out,

948
01:05:04,679 --> 01:05:08,679
or would be like your nantish sense
a love school, Margaret, that's me

949
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,239
done, so he fills it out. So yeah, you'll probably use a

950
01:05:12,239 --> 01:05:15,840
combination of all of them. Yeah. Interesting, you just said my mum's

951
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:21,480
name there and maybe my I have
that one then so yeah, samwich spread

952
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:25,440
as a kid, So there you
go. Oh you go, ye,

953
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:29,559
Margaret? Yeah, all right,
I think On that note, we'll take

954
01:05:29,559 --> 01:05:31,719
a break here on the paranorm peep
Show. Join us in part two.

955
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:36,119
Uh, we're going to go into
heavier stuff, I think if we're allowed

956
01:05:36,159 --> 01:05:39,480
to on YouTube. I don't know. You may have to join us on

957
01:05:39,599 --> 01:05:42,880
Rumble if this part isn't in the
show, but yeah, we're gonna be

958
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:48,320
talking about the Illuminati and the shape
of the world where it's maybe it also

959
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:51,719
ties in with psychic stuff the mediumship
as well. Maybe there's a clamp on

960
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:57,920
that and they don't want us to
really know what's going on. Sous people

961
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,599
were heretics, you know, in
the eyes of the world. Perhaps,

962
01:06:00,639 --> 01:06:02,719
Yeah, obviously I've been channeling it
for two years now, so I'm raring

963
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:10,159
to go. Oh lay psychic scenes. Okay, so the stay tuned for

964
01:06:10,199 --> 01:06:15,079
the Paranormal Peep Show in a minute. Join Andrey o' neil every month on

965
01:06:15,159 --> 01:06:19,599
the Paranoral peep Show, part of
the Paranoral UK Radio Network for fun that

966
01:06:19,719 --> 01:06:26,360
frolics and lots of information about weird
stuff UFOs, ghosts and things that go

967
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:30,519
bump in the night and everything associated
with them. Fascinating guests, fascinating talk,

968
01:06:30,719 --> 01:06:36,840
fascinating information. Hey folks, welcome
back to the Paranormal pic Show with

969
01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:41,719
myself, Neil get his Ward and
guests Mark and Jane. So, Neil,

970
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:45,320
we're going to go slightly heavy now, aren't we Apparently Yes, Yeah,

971
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,880
with a pre agreement between Jane and
Mark, we've decided to ramp this

972
01:06:48,039 --> 01:06:50,920
up a little bit. So we're
not going to just be talking about life

973
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:55,079
after death, although we might still
be talking about life after death and what

974
01:06:55,119 --> 01:06:59,480
happens to us after we cease to
exist as corporal bodies. We're going to

975
01:06:59,559 --> 01:07:04,880
go into the corproot world, I
suppose, rather than corporal bodies and discuss

976
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:10,239
things a little bit heavier. So
if this part is missing from YouTube,

977
01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,320
and well, that's just the way
things are, but you'll certainly catch it

978
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:18,119
on Rumble or on if you're listening
on Spreaker, certainly we'll be on Spreak

979
01:07:18,199 --> 01:07:21,039
with that one. But we're going
to be talking about things events that have

980
01:07:21,159 --> 01:07:25,599
been shaping our world for the last
couple of years, and so we're going

981
01:07:25,599 --> 01:07:30,599
to be talking in a kind of
codified way maybe to not upset any artificial

982
01:07:30,639 --> 01:07:35,480
intelligences that might be luking the internet
trying to catch us out. So if

983
01:07:35,519 --> 01:07:39,519
you're clued up about what we're talking
about, then you certainly know some of

984
01:07:39,559 --> 01:07:43,000
what we're talking about. Does that
make sense? I hope? Okay,

985
01:07:43,239 --> 01:07:45,119
Jane, if I can start with
you, because you've been bursting at the

986
01:07:45,119 --> 01:07:49,519
seams to kind of talk about this. Yeah, so I know that on

987
01:07:49,559 --> 01:07:53,400
Facebook you ran a kind of group. I don't know if you're still running

988
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,639
it. Are you what what I
mean? Can you talk about the name

989
01:07:55,679 --> 01:07:59,840
of your group or coded way?
No, it's fine. It's becalled spiritually

990
01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:03,079
a wake and aware and I realized
during twenty twenty that there was a great

991
01:08:03,159 --> 01:08:06,599
need for people to go and have
a place to talk about what was going

992
01:08:06,599 --> 01:08:12,159
on, but also to for a
more positive slant. Spirit have been very

993
01:08:12,159 --> 01:08:15,840
clear in my ear that this is
very much an energy and vibrational war and

994
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,640
that we've got to start to keep
our vibrations high. And I think a

995
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:23,439
lot of people have no clue how
to do that. But I've worked earnestly

996
01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:27,159
now two and a half years to
raise awareness and to try and get people

997
01:08:27,159 --> 01:08:30,399
to understand what we're dealing with.
Here. In my mind, this is

998
01:08:30,399 --> 01:08:33,199
spiritual warfare. This is the last
battle. We're on the same page.

999
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:40,239
Man, good Man, nice to
be. What do you think? What

1000
01:08:40,359 --> 01:08:45,439
do you think? Because I think
things are heading towards this great reset,

1001
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:51,279
new World Order, dystopian cesspit hell. But I think if enough people wake

1002
01:08:51,399 --> 01:08:57,000
up and basically say screw you,
I think we could change things around.

1003
01:08:57,159 --> 01:09:00,600
I think the biggest dangers to society
are people like Clo Schwab, Bill Gates,

1004
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:04,840
Joe Biden, Justin Trudeau, all
of that illuminati. I'm going to

1005
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:10,560
use the word scum because they want
us dead. I kind of like just

1006
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:15,800
want to be left alone. I
heard this phrase of libertarians secretly planning to

1007
01:09:15,840 --> 01:09:17,760
take over the world and then just
leave you alone. That's kind of how

1008
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,600
I feel it. I just want
to be left alone, leave me to

1009
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:24,159
do my own life. But they
don't want that. They want to kill

1010
01:09:24,199 --> 01:09:29,760
us all. And because of that, unfortunately, my defensive response is screw

1011
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:31,720
you, and I hope you die
as well. But then if you go

1012
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:34,680
down that path, you go down
the path of negativity. So Jane,

1013
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:36,239
what are we going to do?
How are we going to get out of

1014
01:09:36,239 --> 01:09:38,680
there? What we're going to do? I say, what we're going to

1015
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:41,279
do. We're going to start to
appreciate. And there's already been a choice,

1016
01:09:41,319 --> 01:09:44,000
has already been made, It's already
done, it's already done. We're

1017
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:48,760
seeing the after throes of this.
Now with natural law, with God's law,

1018
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:53,439
we will have a choice, I
believe, as we've already We've always

1019
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:56,640
had a choice all throughout these last
two and a half years, and we

1020
01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:00,039
will continue to have a choice spirit
of showing me the end result of this.

1021
01:10:00,079 --> 01:10:00,720
And yes, it's going to in
my opinion, it's going to get

1022
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:05,000
dicey and ropeat, but we're going
to have a choice. I almost feel

1023
01:10:05,039 --> 01:10:06,600
it's going to come to the point
where they're going to say, do you

1024
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:10,600
fancy a smart city and we're going
to say no, thank you, say

1025
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:14,239
well, bugger off then, and
don't ever darken our doorsteps. And that's

1026
01:10:14,279 --> 01:10:16,640
how I see it going. There
will be free will at the end.

1027
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,359
But I think the smart city is
going to be very appealing to a lot

1028
01:10:19,399 --> 01:10:24,720
of people. We're seeing that,
aren't we that that people still very much

1029
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:28,680
love. I'm going to be a
little bit risky. The monarchy they love,

1030
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,199
the government, they love Daddy telling
them what to do, and these

1031
01:10:31,239 --> 01:10:35,279
people they're not going to wake up. Now. We're wasting our time with

1032
01:10:35,399 --> 01:10:39,399
that. Now, Spirits said to
me last year because I was one of

1033
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:44,640
the big advocates in the park when
I'm a free protests and Spirits said,

1034
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:48,000
Jane, stop telling people what to
do and think, start to show them.

1035
01:10:48,319 --> 01:10:50,439
So from that point I cut off
and I'm like, do you know

1036
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:56,760
what I'm actually going to show what
a healthy woman looks like. And that's

1037
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,079
how I'm going to I'm going to
show people how to If I'm not going

1038
01:10:59,119 --> 01:11:00,880
to tell them anymore, what right
have I got to tell people they're right

1039
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:04,079
or wrong. I don't like it
when they did to me, but this

1040
01:11:04,159 --> 01:11:08,199
is it. I mean, my
point of view is I'm a libertarian.

1041
01:11:09,039 --> 01:11:12,760
My point of view is I will
leave you alone. Just leave me the

1042
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:17,159
hell alone. The problem comes when
you get mandatory. When this little word

1043
01:11:17,359 --> 01:11:23,079
mandatory comes in, it's like,
we'll have our aucifouches and that's fine,

1044
01:11:23,119 --> 01:11:27,199
you have your activouches, but we
want you to have them too. That's

1045
01:11:27,239 --> 01:11:30,680
where we've got the problem. That's
where they said we're off, Andred said,

1046
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,239
what do you say about that?
Marcus? I know you were.

1047
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:39,079
You had a lot of stick,
didn't you to conform? Well? But

1048
01:11:39,319 --> 01:11:44,479
I guess my story with this goes
back years. I was reading David Eyke's

1049
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:48,920
stuff, I don't know, maybe
twenty years ago, and like I was

1050
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:55,199
quite shocked by it because I was
reading it and thinking this cannot be true

1051
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:58,960
at the same time as knowing it
was true. So you know, my

1052
01:11:59,079 --> 01:12:02,359
mind was like, this is so
bizarre. It's like this cannot be treated

1053
01:12:02,399 --> 01:12:06,960
on my logic, rational mind,
and yet my intuition mind, my sole

1054
01:12:08,079 --> 01:12:11,560
mind, was telling me this was
true. So like for twenty years,

1055
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:15,000
I've kind of known about the corruption
and the self serving kind of you know,

1056
01:12:15,079 --> 01:12:18,479
government policies, and then I kind
of like I just left. I've

1057
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:21,520
still got David Art books somewhere,
and then I just left it and carried

1058
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:25,359
on and like was fairly not more, really, wasn't it compared to about

1059
01:12:25,359 --> 01:12:28,920
in the last couple of years.
But when Boris was elected, I was

1060
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:31,800
terrified. I don't know why.
I'd never had anything to do with Borus,

1061
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:36,079
never really seen him or followed him, and yet my psychic sense was

1062
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:40,520
this is now a time to be
afraid. And then of course, literally

1063
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:44,199
as soon as he was electing,
the virus was invented, wasn't he.

1064
01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:48,439
So so when you know it very
first came out and we were showing pictures

1065
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,239
from China, you know, I
was like terrified. I remember I was

1066
01:12:51,319 --> 01:12:55,640
driving home from Oxford, I think
it was on the on the Sunday,

1067
01:12:55,720 --> 01:12:58,880
just before lockdown or something, and
you know, all the motorway signs were

1068
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:00,000
like, you know, stay at
home. Stuff, and I was really

1069
01:13:00,039 --> 01:13:02,840
scared. I remember putting petrol in
the car, thinking what if it's on

1070
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:06,279
my hands now, you know.
And it was about two weeks of that,

1071
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,920
and then my injury I kind of
connected back to my intuition because fear

1072
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:15,279
had taken me away from myself.
Came back to my intuition and I thought,

1073
01:13:15,319 --> 01:13:20,439
oh my god, this is absolute
lies. So it's been so incredibly

1074
01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:26,159
difficult for the last two and a
half years not being scared of the virus.

1075
01:13:26,399 --> 01:13:29,279
Not even I do believe it's a
virus. I've had COVID I was

1076
01:13:29,359 --> 01:13:31,800
very pleasant. I've had other illnesses
that were worse. So it's not not

1077
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:34,319
that I don't believe it's a virus. I do tend to think or feel

1078
01:13:34,319 --> 01:13:38,479
I should say, I feel it's
man made. But anyway, I felt

1079
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:43,640
all the way through this that this
was just about control and cool and how

1080
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:46,479
difficult that's been for me when you
know, pretty much the vast majority of

1081
01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:51,880
people that I interact with are queuing
up for medical interventions, and you know,

1082
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:56,079
kind of believing the word of Boris
when he was doing his five o'clock

1083
01:13:56,119 --> 01:14:00,760
announcements, and just like every inch
of my being was just me, this

1084
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,520
is rubbish and they don't do any
of the stuff they were prosing on us.

1085
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:05,960
They don't. They don't have lockdowns, and it's since been proved.

1086
01:14:06,039 --> 01:14:11,960
Isn't it more part isn't number ten
than in the country They if they believed

1087
01:14:12,319 --> 01:14:15,159
what they were saying was true to
us, they would have been in some

1088
01:14:15,239 --> 01:14:19,119
kind of nuclear resistant bunk. And
wouldn't they along with the Queen, the

1089
01:14:19,199 --> 01:14:23,479
West and Royal family and all the
other politicians they were they were partying at

1090
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:30,319
downing streets singing other songs. I
just find it really unforgivable that that amount

1091
01:14:30,359 --> 01:14:35,520
of control and disempowerment that they've included
on the people talking to the royal family.

1092
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:39,560
I know that they were getting on, I know that they were getting

1093
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:44,840
old, but isn't it interesting triple
jibbs? I think that all at least

1094
01:14:45,199 --> 01:14:47,640
double jibbed. And then Prince Philip
passes on to the other side, and

1095
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:51,680
then Queeny passes onto the other side. I don't know if you saw Queen's

1096
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:57,840
hands when she was taking Liz trust
completely purple. I don't know if you've

1097
01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,600
seen Prince Charles's hands or King Charles's
ans. He's got sausage fingers. Now

1098
01:15:01,039 --> 01:15:06,960
now, I'm not saying it's the
ouchi fauci. It's just I don't shaking

1099
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:12,680
hands with so many people that makes
your hands on About on about week three

1100
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:15,760
of the lockdown. By this time, I've watched these three men stood there

1101
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:21,880
with their little slogans. Total,
total manipulation and very much. I said,

1102
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:25,920
they lying to me. The nine
people are lying to me. And

1103
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,720
I went into my bedroom and I
sat at my dressing table, and a

1104
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,239
white figure came in the bedroom.
She stood behind me. It made me

1105
01:15:31,319 --> 01:15:35,119
jump, and she said, clearest
day, they are hiding God from you.

1106
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:39,159
And I thought, right, if
I went down the bloody church,

1107
01:15:39,199 --> 01:15:43,520
didn't I? I thought I didn't
find him there. I for funnily enough,

1108
01:15:44,159 --> 01:15:46,840
but that really got me into it. I read the Bible, and

1109
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,119
my goodness, the last book of
the Bible. If you haven't read it

1110
01:15:49,199 --> 01:15:53,359
yet, read it. What an
I open, isn't it? And it

1111
01:15:53,399 --> 01:15:56,960
says in there, clear as day, in the last days, far makea

1112
01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:00,840
will deceive the earth. Far makea
means pharmacy. The pharmacy, it would

1113
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:04,039
see the earth and God, the
Bible, whatever you want to call it,

1114
01:16:04,039 --> 01:16:09,560
it is written there. And people, it's just to me, I

1115
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:14,840
have been astonished in the spiritual community. How many people were so scared to

1116
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,960
die? What we've spent our whole
lives telling people don't be afraid to die?

1117
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:25,439
Wow? What hypocrites? What hypocrites? The community is so split,

1118
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:29,600
isn't it? Because I found there
that it's really in half that the spiritual

1119
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:32,800
people who are absolutely how we think
that it's all bs, it's all lovely

1120
01:16:33,039 --> 01:16:36,720
lies, manipulation and can talk,
and then there's others folw this lever up,

1121
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,840
Give it to me, give me
another one. Yeah, yeah,

1122
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:44,199
yeah, yeah, let's have it
again. I think that for me,

1123
01:16:44,279 --> 01:16:46,199
in my little world, it was
only me and my brother that were speaking

1124
01:16:46,239 --> 01:16:51,119
out, and it was like,
where it's all the spiritual people. I

1125
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:56,680
was getting regular Facebook bands man,
man, you scribes, Yeah, you

1126
01:16:56,720 --> 01:17:00,039
know that you're probably sitting in the
North Korean kind of the medals, and

1127
01:17:00,079 --> 01:17:03,920
it's like, you know, this
is how many fake book pla I've got?

1128
01:17:04,039 --> 01:17:08,000
Yeah? It was literally kind of
every other week I was another band.

1129
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:14,119
Another censorship is increbing. It's interesting
because one of moost outspoken people within

1130
01:17:14,199 --> 01:17:17,319
my own family was my dad about
this, not not against it before it's

1131
01:17:17,319 --> 01:17:25,039
saying you must get a certain medical
procedure, because Boris says, so he

1132
01:17:25,279 --> 01:17:29,039
was going on and longer on about
it. And now my dad has passed

1133
01:17:29,079 --> 01:17:34,000
on and passed on with analytic aneurysm, the same thing as my mom.

1134
01:17:34,039 --> 01:17:41,479
And my mum had analytic anaurism back
in twenty sixteen, just coincidentally to like

1135
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:45,279
that my dad had the same thing. But I did look into it afterwards

1136
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:51,439
and found that some guy had been
doing research, some Austrian scientist or someone

1137
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:58,720
like that, that suggested there was
a possible link between certain medical interventions that

1138
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:05,399
we've been encouraged to take and aortic
aneurysms. And then there's been other reports

1139
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:10,720
of people saying they've never heard the
analysis so busy. In the last two

1140
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,439
years, there seems to be so
many more sirens on the road than they

1141
01:18:13,479 --> 01:18:18,119
were previously. Yeah, and if
we look at this more from a spiritual

1142
01:18:18,119 --> 01:18:20,920
aspect than a human aspect, let's
kind of go, let's delve down to

1143
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:25,039
the path of me for a moment. So we're starting to understand that everything

1144
01:18:25,159 --> 01:18:30,960
is frequency and vibration. Everything is
now some people have such low frequencies that

1145
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:35,479
they have willingly given their power away
to men in black suits because they feel

1146
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:40,199
so incapable of making any decisions for
themselves. And then you've got the people

1147
01:18:40,239 --> 01:18:44,199
we class them as awake. Perhaps
they're just more conscious who actually trust their

1148
01:18:44,239 --> 01:18:45,640
senses. They know when something's not
right, and they've gone with that.

1149
01:18:46,239 --> 01:18:54,720
So I call the lower consciousness as
fillers, like movie extras. They're there

1150
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:57,960
and they're running about, but nothing's
really getting done. And what if they're

1151
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,720
there in place for the spiritual mind? Those were, you see, to

1152
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:04,000
create the new. So as much
as we want to talk about there's loads

1153
01:19:04,039 --> 01:19:06,640
of deaths and this the end of
the world, what about if this is

1154
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:11,560
the creation of the new and that's
where me and Mark have been, that's

1155
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:15,159
true. Yeah, we've got to
dismantle the systems. We've got to destroy.

1156
01:19:15,199 --> 01:19:17,560
This now is happening, but it
will be our choice as to what

1157
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:21,760
happens to us individually. It has
to be. It is natural law.

1158
01:19:23,119 --> 01:19:27,199
Back in twenty eleven, I was
really drawn to do a course for kind

1159
01:19:27,199 --> 01:19:30,399
of spiritual people. At that time, I was running a spiritual center and

1160
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:38,920
this course was basically about how to
exist and live in a very different world,

1161
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:43,880
in a world where there weren't shops
and petrol stations and all those things

1162
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,479
that we've taken the granted for years. How to exist and thrive in a

1163
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,680
world without any of that. And
of course I thought of the time,

1164
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:51,800
because there's a lot to talk about
twenty twelve. I thought, oh,

1165
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,760
the end of the world is due
in twenty and twelve, and that's what

1166
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:56,840
this is all about. Well,
because the end of the world didn't come

1167
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,880
in twenty twelve. But what I've
seen over the last two years is everything

1168
01:20:00,159 --> 01:20:03,239
talk in that course about how to
create your own reality, how to manifest

1169
01:20:03,279 --> 01:20:05,720
things. All of those things that
are going to be so vital as we

1170
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:10,239
go forward are the things that we've
needed now. I mean, you know,

1171
01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:13,479
James often surprised when I say,
in Plymouth, you cannot get stuff

1172
01:20:13,479 --> 01:20:15,840
in the supermarket. The shelters just
empty, have been for two years.

1173
01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:19,520
There's nothing, you know. Sometimes
we have no petrol, we have no

1174
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:23,640
diesel. You know, I'm not
exaggerating. Sometimes you go to the supermarket

1175
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:26,720
and there is nothing there. You
know, you get tinner peages perhaps or

1176
01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:30,399
some evaporated milk. That's it.
And so we already in like big cities

1177
01:20:30,399 --> 01:20:33,800
like Plymouth, we are having to
think about how do we live in this

1178
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:39,000
new world when you cannot guarantee the
things that have always been available to us.

1179
01:20:39,319 --> 01:20:42,239
So I think what, Yeah,
like Jane's saying, I think that

1180
01:20:42,319 --> 01:20:46,840
those of us who know are better
off channeling our energy into showing people,

1181
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:50,920
look, this is how you now
survive in this new world. Yeah,

1182
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:55,359
because if we go down the path
of anger, and believe me, I

1183
01:20:55,359 --> 01:20:59,720
have been raging for two years.
If you go down the road of anger

1184
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:02,600
that it doesn't do anything. It
lowers the vibration, it alienates people.

1185
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:06,359
It's do you know what I mean? It's like often being away of venting

1186
01:21:06,399 --> 01:21:10,079
the actually absolute frustration about it all. In the horrors of it all,

1187
01:21:10,159 --> 01:21:15,359
it doesn't do anything. We've probably
guided towards like a more loving, kind

1188
01:21:15,399 --> 01:21:18,720
of compassionate approach. So the Facebook
group I've run on this and it only

1189
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:23,239
has a few members, but it
is called Unity. So it's about,

1190
01:21:23,279 --> 01:21:26,800
you know, providing a space where
everyone can be included and united. So

1191
01:21:27,159 --> 01:21:29,800
you know, if somebody did choose
to take a medical procedure, well,

1192
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,159
okay, that's their choice. They
may regret it, but actually, from

1193
01:21:32,239 --> 01:21:35,560
my point of view, they need
to be supported and helped just as much

1194
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:41,000
as somebody who was ridiculed for not
taking a procedure. So I'm coming from

1195
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:46,279
a kind of quite compassionate, open
armed place with all this now because we're

1196
01:21:46,279 --> 01:21:49,840
in this mess, because we've got
to look at our own selves in this

1197
01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:56,760
very much. We've sold ourselves out
for convenience. We've been dazzled by things

1198
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:59,680
that tinkle it we could touch with
our fingers. So each one of us

1199
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:02,079
as possibility to where we are now, and I think you know we could

1200
01:22:02,119 --> 01:22:04,119
go. You know, you're a
stupid bugger. And I've done it.

1201
01:22:04,239 --> 01:22:08,760
I've done it. I have done
it. I've screamed and shouted at the

1202
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:12,880
ludicrousness of people. And there's now
there's people I'm not going to have in

1203
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:15,800
my life. I know that.
But if someone does come and they have

1204
01:22:17,039 --> 01:22:19,880
had what you had, a medical
intervention, I'm not going to turn them

1205
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:25,000
away. I'm going to help them
as much as i'd help someone who hasn't.

1206
01:22:25,039 --> 01:22:27,239
It's not for me to sit and
judge. Isn't that why we're in

1207
01:22:27,279 --> 01:22:31,119
this mess. I think we need
to have a pragmatic approach. I think

1208
01:22:31,119 --> 01:22:39,199
compassionate is definitely the way to go. The problem we have is, imagine

1209
01:22:39,239 --> 01:22:42,720
we're in nineteen thirty nine, and
we've got the rise of Adolph Hitler.

1210
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:48,000
I hear the approach is wonderful.
Whilst you're in Britain, the rest of

1211
01:22:48,039 --> 01:22:51,399
the world is being trampled by the
jack boot. Now the problem is the

1212
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:57,880
Nazis never went away Operation paper Clip. They went all over the world,

1213
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:02,720
including Argentina through the Vatican rat lines
plat it can help with that, and

1214
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:09,800
into America and into places like Big
Farmer and Big Agra and the Rockets program,

1215
01:23:10,159 --> 01:23:13,359
Fanasa, etc. Which is a
whole different story. But the Nazis

1216
01:23:13,399 --> 01:23:17,279
never really went away. Now they've
done it that they've regrouped, and that

1217
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:25,600
same Nazi consciousness is turning up.
And basically Bill Gates blesses little cotton socks.

1218
01:23:26,359 --> 01:23:31,279
Bill Gates is buying up huge swathes
of agricultural land and doing absolutely nothing

1219
01:23:31,319 --> 01:23:35,920
with it. And we've got Klaus
Schwab of the World Economic Forum telling us

1220
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:40,960
that we're going to live in pods, own nothing, eat bugs and be

1221
01:23:41,119 --> 01:23:43,560
happy. Oh, by the way, you're going to be micro chipped.

1222
01:23:43,920 --> 01:23:47,000
And by the way, there's going
to be food shortages. We have no

1223
01:23:47,119 --> 01:23:50,640
idea why there's going to be food. Chortice couldn't be the fact that they're

1224
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:54,720
buying up all the land and doing
nothing with it. There is a planned

1225
01:23:54,760 --> 01:24:01,079
extermination. I would like to see
Nuremberg two for these people. The thing

1226
01:24:01,159 --> 01:24:05,319
is meditation and compassion and being positive
is wonderful, and yes that has its

1227
01:24:05,319 --> 01:24:10,520
place, but we have a problem, and that problem is sheer evil.

1228
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:15,039
How we need to do something about
it. My my thinking is, okay,

1229
01:24:15,079 --> 01:24:17,279
so what needs to happen. We
need to arrest the people that are

1230
01:24:17,279 --> 01:24:19,560
doing this. Okay, how are
we going to do that? Where we're

1231
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:23,800
going to need military and we're going
to need the police. But the problem

1232
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,840
is the military and the place with
their training. This is why this is

1233
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:30,960
so insiduous. They are trained to
be little system drones to follow orders.

1234
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:35,640
There is some good news apparently some
of the sheriffs, and I don't know

1235
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:40,920
why. The sheriffs and the US
are very anti New World Order, and

1236
01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:45,800
they're more on the side of the
citizens and the people of America because the

1237
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:48,680
sheriffs grow up in the in their
counties and they they're very involved with the

1238
01:24:48,720 --> 01:24:54,279
citizens and you know, they help
each other out. The problem is when

1239
01:24:54,279 --> 01:24:57,159
you get these kind of like this, this, these faceless kind of like

1240
01:24:58,039 --> 01:25:00,960
goon squads, you know, whether
you call them FEDS or whoever they are,

1241
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:05,239
that the type of people that would
raid Trump's house but leave Biden's laptop

1242
01:25:05,239 --> 01:25:11,800
alone. These types Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, what am

1243
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:15,760
I trying to say here? We
need to try and sway the military and

1244
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:20,840
the police onto the side of goodness, and we need to start going after

1245
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:25,840
the darkness. And that's the only
way we can do. Ignore the darkness,

1246
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:29,079
we can iditate. But if we
ignore the dark darkness, all that's

1247
01:25:29,079 --> 01:25:30,560
going to happen is one day you're
going to get a knock on the door

1248
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:34,000
and it's off to the gooleg.
I get you. I'm not saying sitting

1249
01:25:34,039 --> 01:25:40,039
here we should pray ourselves back.
I think beyond that, what do you

1250
01:25:40,119 --> 01:25:43,960
do? We get prepared and we
sort our shit out. I think that,

1251
01:25:44,199 --> 01:25:46,119
you know, for me, here's
what I want to do. I'm

1252
01:25:46,119 --> 01:25:48,800
going to get out of this.
There's some land I'm going to plant.

1253
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:53,079
We own vegetables. I'm going to
surround my property with common law. I've

1254
01:25:53,079 --> 01:25:56,279
looked into that. I've become a
peace constable in the last two years.

1255
01:25:56,520 --> 01:26:00,199
There's there's ways to protect ourselves.
But I think it's lovely to think that

1256
01:26:00,279 --> 01:26:02,319
a load of good people are going
to stand up and go and take these

1257
01:26:02,319 --> 01:26:08,079
people down. They ain't no evidence
of that yet. So all I could

1258
01:26:08,079 --> 01:26:12,520
think at this point is self preservation. I know that's harsh. It's a

1259
01:26:12,560 --> 01:26:17,079
little bit self Preservationuse don't forget everything
you're being shown on this television. It's

1260
01:26:17,079 --> 01:26:20,640
a movie. It's a movie.
It has as much energy as we give

1261
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:25,399
to it. And what they want. Imagine the Illuminati, they sit there

1262
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:28,359
and we all get outraged. This
is a bomb and they suck it in

1263
01:26:28,399 --> 01:26:31,399
like cigarette smoke, and it makes
high and it makes them strong. How

1264
01:26:31,399 --> 01:26:35,000
do you deal with the psychopath and
the narcissistic? Cut it off, puff

1265
01:26:35,039 --> 01:26:40,119
off the supply. Without our supply, they couldn't keep going. There is

1266
01:26:40,159 --> 01:26:45,239
some good news apparently, the people
taking up the medical intervention that is just

1267
01:26:45,399 --> 01:26:48,319
plummeting. Now they've got the huge
stocks that they don't know what to do

1268
01:26:48,359 --> 01:26:51,159
with. They're just going to end
because it's only got like a six month

1269
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:59,920
cell bite date. And people are
a lot more against the new world or

1270
01:27:00,079 --> 01:27:05,159
the Joe Biden called it the liberal
home world Order. And when Joe Biden

1271
01:27:05,239 --> 01:27:08,640
did that speech, he probably said
it where he's got the red and the

1272
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:12,520
black and the background, and he
called all Trump supporters and Republicans, he

1273
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:16,479
called them terrorists, domestic terrorists.
I think he's nailed the coffin. Put

1274
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:20,640
the nail in his in his coffin
for that one. The only way Biden,

1275
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:26,119
I think the only way Biden will
get re elected is if he steals

1276
01:27:26,159 --> 01:27:30,920
the election again again again again.
When Trump lost, I thought I'd be

1277
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:32,159
honest with you. Fucking hell.
We're in trouble now. That's why I

1278
01:27:32,159 --> 01:27:35,079
sat there in thought. Yeah,
But then I've got to go back up

1279
01:27:35,079 --> 01:27:38,760
to what I know spiritually. There's
a reason we were all able to contact

1280
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:43,199
the spirit world at this time.
I true, I speared, never let

1281
01:27:43,239 --> 01:27:45,880
me down. Humans have I'm going
to trust might put my faith in them,

1282
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:48,800
for I put my trust in any
living man. And I just get

1283
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:53,920
this good impression at the ends of
this and in his carnage. Think about

1284
01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:59,399
it, every mass exodus of souls
throughout history, every one of them has

1285
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:05,159
been trying to each the earth something
we're stupid with slow with legislated humans.

1286
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:09,199
Not everyone. The listeners of this
show I think will be kind of like

1287
01:28:09,279 --> 01:28:13,920
quite enlightened and quite awake. Otherwise, Yes, yes, General Sheep and

1288
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,800
it's interesting to use filler people.
I bet this is a concept I've come

1289
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:21,199
across as well, and NPCs as
well, nonplayer games. I think that's

1290
01:28:21,199 --> 01:28:25,520
absolutely right. There were some people
who are just so programmed and just so

1291
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,800
zombie sheep. You just cannot get
food to them, and no man,

1292
01:28:29,079 --> 01:28:31,039
what you do, They're just they'll
just go along with what over they're told.

1293
01:28:31,319 --> 01:28:35,479
The support thing. You know,
my partner and a lot of people,

1294
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:40,319
good people got together in twenty twenty
one and they still on the side

1295
01:28:40,359 --> 01:28:44,119
of the roads begging people not to
get the jib jabbing. Then children they

1296
01:28:44,239 --> 01:28:46,199
were shouted out, they had extra
and at them. One man tried to

1297
01:28:46,199 --> 01:28:53,600
punch a woman. They were horrified. How dare we go against? So

1298
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:56,800
I'm like buggery. I will help
anyone who asks, but I'm not doing

1299
01:28:56,880 --> 01:29:00,159
in my life now to wake up
the fillers. It's interesting because about two

1300
01:29:00,199 --> 01:29:04,479
months ago, Monaca and I were
coming back from somewhere. We're driving back

1301
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:11,279
in to Weymouth and I think we
actually went under the It was under the

1302
01:29:11,359 --> 01:29:15,520
railway bridge that probably runs past your
house, you know, the train line

1303
01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:21,279
Weymouth into Dorchester, Yeah, probably
Mere, Yeah, but there was what

1304
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:26,439
we saw as we approached it slowly
in the traffic. Was they were holding

1305
01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:30,000
a great big banner over the side
of the bridge or pinned it up or

1306
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:35,319
something, and it was certain medical
appliances that we've been encouraged to take and

1307
01:29:35,359 --> 01:29:41,279
it said stop the lies. And
there are these people on the bridge.

1308
01:29:41,279 --> 01:29:44,039
Now I don't know whether they were
the people that actually put the banner there

1309
01:29:44,399 --> 01:29:46,600
or they were just staring down,
but I kind of just waved up at

1310
01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:49,039
them like that slowly as I went
under, and they kind of gave me

1311
01:29:49,039 --> 01:29:54,359
a thumbs up, so they were
kind of acknowledging that I saw their banner.

1312
01:29:55,119 --> 01:29:57,600
I thought, this is interesting that
these people are putting it there.

1313
01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:00,880
So people are starting to get a
little bit clear up here, and there

1314
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,720
locking some people, you know,
so of course noic wouldn't it. I

1315
01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:09,279
I remember watching me and Mark we've
been very interested in the World War two

1316
01:30:09,359 --> 01:30:11,880
for some reason, even as little
kids, and I remember we say to

1317
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,680
each other, for God, how
could people behave like that? Oh now

1318
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:17,000
now we know, Now we know, And it's not hard to do,

1319
01:30:17,159 --> 01:30:21,920
is it. It's not hard to
get people to do it. So it

1320
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,560
was interesting with with with the with
the mindset type of thing. Now,

1321
01:30:26,399 --> 01:30:31,560
going back to the monarchy, right, I'm not I'm not completely anti monarchy.

1322
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:34,000
I don't want monarchy. I want
to republic, but I'm not blood

1323
01:30:34,039 --> 01:30:38,439
thirsty and I don't want like a
I don't want a violent revolution, and

1324
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:40,880
I don't want to kind of drop
the heads off monarch it is. That's

1325
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:45,840
that's not my thing. Yeah,
but when the when the Queen's funeral happened,

1326
01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:50,159
there was I watched it purely from
a historical point of view. I

1327
01:30:50,159 --> 01:30:54,600
thought, I have to watch this, but I may not agree with everything.

1328
01:30:55,279 --> 01:30:58,359
You know, I don't want the
monarchy, but I will watch it

1329
01:30:58,399 --> 01:31:00,119
because it's, you know, once
a lifetime thing, it's a historical thing.

1330
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:06,119
But because it was absolutely relentless about
how wonderful the queen was and all

1331
01:31:06,159 --> 01:31:09,800
that, you know, how wonderful
the guard's look, and all the people

1332
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:12,479
saying, oh, she was part
of my life, I kind of like

1333
01:31:12,680 --> 01:31:15,880
felt myself being kind of like almost
dragged along with it, or or I

1334
01:31:16,720 --> 01:31:21,640
felt that I felt the pull the
magnetism of you know, a nation coming

1335
01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:26,439
together. And then I kind of
thought drew myself back out of that,

1336
01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:30,119
and I thought, imagine that but
in nineteen thirties Germany. Yeah, imagine

1337
01:31:30,159 --> 01:31:33,760
how like of a magnetic pullet would
be to kind of raise your hand up

1338
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:36,800
and do a high line. And
I loved it. They'd got high off

1339
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:41,880
it, wouldn't you. Yeah,
it was. It was a mindset and

1340
01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:44,640
as you say, it was so
easy to get swept up in it.

1341
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:48,079
And I could have gone watching the
monch. I could have gone full into

1342
01:31:48,199 --> 01:31:50,840
and I had to stop myself full
into. Yeah, the queen was great,

1343
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:54,560
and isn't it great having all this
history and all this monarch in that

1344
01:31:55,239 --> 01:31:57,760
I had to stop myself and think, hang on a minute, it's not

1345
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:00,119
democratic. They're not elected. They
ruled over everyone else, and they own

1346
01:32:00,199 --> 01:32:03,680
everything. Slave master, isn't it? Slave master? That That's exactly what

1347
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:06,840
we're trying to spiritually come out of
it. I need a master on an

1348
01:32:06,880 --> 01:32:12,640
independent person like this. So for
those that there is footage, black and

1349
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:15,560
white footage should be still out there
on the internet. Queen and her mom,

1350
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:20,000
the Queen and her mom, Princess
Margaret doing a high hitler. Yes,

1351
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:24,239
because, like you said, Andrew, the Nazis didn't go. They

1352
01:32:24,239 --> 01:32:30,000
don't lose the war. They did
not. German family that changed their name

1353
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:35,840
during the war, or just but
good old Britannia et yeah, se Cobra

1354
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:43,760
or something like that. Yeah so
yeah, so we're kind of like we're

1355
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:46,359
under the hood. If you lift
up the bonnet of society, there's a

1356
01:32:46,399 --> 01:32:51,840
few kinds of German made devices there
as it weren't. Whether you know it

1357
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:57,119
originates in Germany, this whole idea
of what they've become. Maybe it originates

1358
01:32:57,119 --> 01:33:00,000
in Austria, you know, I
think we could look to China. Perhaps.

1359
01:33:00,199 --> 01:33:03,520
I think China's are major contender here
as well. They want Chinese sister

1360
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:06,479
rolled out in the country, don't
they. But I choose, I'm exempt.

1361
01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:11,600
I choose to go and live as
a woman, a free woman of

1362
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:16,680
the land, and I would rather
die than live under what's coming. I'd

1363
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:19,960
rather get should Yeah, that's not
an issue for me. That's not a

1364
01:33:20,039 --> 01:33:25,199
choice. What of spirits? I
mean obviously mentioned this spirit that came into

1365
01:33:25,239 --> 01:33:30,000
your living room glowing white lady and
said they're not speaking of God or something.

1366
01:33:30,479 --> 01:33:32,439
What else have they said anything else
about what's coming to you? They've

1367
01:33:32,439 --> 01:33:34,720
shown me the end result. I
mean, I don't know if you've heard

1368
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:40,279
of peas called med beds that are
ready available for the elites, we don't

1369
01:33:40,279 --> 01:33:43,199
get them. Of course, there's
food, there's children playing. We're going

1370
01:33:43,199 --> 01:33:45,439
back to basics for those who want
to join it. But not many people

1371
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:48,600
will. Who the hell was to
go back and tend to their own crops?

1372
01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:55,239
We sold out years ago for convenience. So there will be a few

1373
01:33:55,279 --> 01:33:58,000
of us, be that hundreds of
thousands or a few of us that will

1374
01:33:58,039 --> 01:34:00,520
choose that way of life. It
will be a choice. It has to

1375
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:04,039
be a choice that that's that's spiritual
law. That has to be very well

1376
01:34:04,159 --> 01:34:08,039
seeing to us. When I was
talking about that course earlier, it was

1377
01:34:08,079 --> 01:34:11,359
like, how can we manifest things? How can we live in a in

1378
01:34:11,439 --> 01:34:15,399
a world where we can't depend on
supplieres in the way that we have done.

1379
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:19,640
So I too kind of have that
vision of world being very very basic,

1380
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:26,000
very simple, much much fewer people. And to be honest, it

1381
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:30,119
doesn't look that bad, do you
know what I mean? I think that

1382
01:34:30,199 --> 01:34:35,319
I think that the terrifying bit is
the bit between now and that is a

1383
01:34:35,359 --> 01:34:42,800
bit that's awful. Yeah, this
has made me actually incredibly depressed recently because

1384
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:46,840
like because because it's a case of
this all used to be somewhere over the

1385
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:51,680
rainbow conspiracy theory. Now, what's
the difference between conspiracy theory and fact?

1386
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:58,199
About six months? Yeah, that's
everything that's kind of like was crazy David,

1387
01:34:58,239 --> 01:35:01,319
like Alex James crazy, crazy stuff
is now and I wish we were

1388
01:35:01,359 --> 01:35:05,319
wrong. I wish it was just
tinfoil hat stuff. Yep, we're seeing

1389
01:35:05,359 --> 01:35:09,800
it. We're seeing World economic four
and people saying you will own nothing,

1390
01:35:10,079 --> 01:35:12,279
you will live in a pod,
you will eat bugs. There's going to

1391
01:35:12,279 --> 01:35:15,359
be no energy and there's going to
be no food, and we need to

1392
01:35:15,399 --> 01:35:23,000
cut the global population. How can
we manifest the arrest of these psychopaths.

1393
01:35:24,039 --> 01:35:27,840
I'd love a load of like swap
people. You're kind of white hat black

1394
01:35:27,880 --> 01:35:31,439
swat people dressed in black, machine
guns everything. Just go and raid all

1395
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:35,800
of Klaus Schwild, Bill Gates,
Anthony Fauci, all of these psychopaths of

1396
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:40,399
rest of them, and through a
proper trial, put them on trial in

1397
01:35:40,479 --> 01:35:45,760
a world court Nuremberg too, and
absolutely if they are found guilty, the

1398
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:48,800
maximum possible thing, so blind,
he's got to be dismantled, he's got

1399
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:50,960
to be destroyed before we can even
get to that point, or they're going

1400
01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:54,720
to put these blokes in the courts
which are going to find them innocent and

1401
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:59,159
it's lovely, but everything's got to
be destroyed before we could rebuild anything like

1402
01:35:59,199 --> 01:36:01,399
that. If you go spiritually andrew, what's your soul? If at this

1403
01:36:01,439 --> 01:36:04,920
time then to get depressed, what's
it here for? I? Well,

1404
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:09,479
this is it? I thought,
do you know what? I thought?

1405
01:36:10,319 --> 01:36:13,319
My soul was here to try and
make a difference. But then that's to

1406
01:36:13,359 --> 01:36:17,119
the point of, well, maybe
maybe maybe it is all just lost,

1407
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:21,199
I said to spirit because I started
suffering panic attacks. I went so far

1408
01:36:21,239 --> 01:36:24,479
down the rabbit hole and all kicked
off. I ended up in hospital.

1409
01:36:24,800 --> 01:36:26,479
Anyway, I've come out. I
know. I had sort of put a

1410
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:28,920
lid on it a bit, and
I said to spirit one, I said,

1411
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:31,279
I can't change the world. Stop
showing me this stuff. I can't

1412
01:36:31,319 --> 01:36:33,760
do nothing with it. They said, Jane, you ain't got to change

1413
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:36,880
the world. Just change a few
people's lives around you. Let the ripple

1414
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:40,880
effect go out. That's all I
can do. I accept that. And

1415
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:44,159
I can make sure me and my
family are safe. That's all I can

1416
01:36:44,199 --> 01:36:47,319
do at this point. The same
here, I mean, he's gone a

1417
01:36:47,359 --> 01:36:49,960
bit, you know, like we
probably don't know, but you can imagine,

1418
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:53,479
like in the fifties if someone was
gay and they had to kind of

1419
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:58,479
do a knowing look and hopes the
other person picked up on that knowing look

1420
01:36:59,119 --> 01:37:01,319
the bird stories, and that's how
I'm finding it is now. So you

1421
01:37:01,359 --> 01:37:05,079
know, my clients are kind of
almost dropping a little something in the water

1422
01:37:05,119 --> 01:37:10,239
to see if they can tell me
that they've not had any interventions. You

1423
01:37:10,239 --> 01:37:13,960
know, they're curious because it's so
terrifying, isn't it to actually come out

1424
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:16,840
as being someone who sees through all
this? And what I'm finding is I'm

1425
01:37:16,840 --> 01:37:20,640
getting more and more of those times, people who've been injured through medical intervention,

1426
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:25,159
people who are thinking differently, And
I think all I can do.

1427
01:37:25,199 --> 01:37:29,319
I can't arrest, I can't even
say his name, clouds whatever. I

1428
01:37:29,359 --> 01:37:31,039
can't do it. But what I
can do is help these people who are

1429
01:37:31,079 --> 01:37:34,439
beginning to wake up, who are
beginning to see something different, who are

1430
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:39,760
regretting decisions. I can support them. And I guess that's me about adding

1431
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:44,399
my energy to the love and the
light energy, which I hope then will

1432
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:46,920
dismantle the likes of the Nazi types
who are doing this stuff. You know,

1433
01:37:47,079 --> 01:37:50,439
So I think you've got to add
your power to the light and hope

1434
01:37:50,439 --> 01:37:56,359
that that kind of you know,
dispels the shadow. Maybe I'm being optimistic,

1435
01:37:56,359 --> 01:37:59,479
maybe I'm being naive. I think
you've got to have some kind of

1436
01:37:59,479 --> 01:38:04,239
optimism otherwise you really go. I've
just been to the darkness point of of

1437
01:38:04,479 --> 01:38:09,600
what's the point of actually being here? Last two years? Yeah, last

1438
01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:12,840
two years. Me and Mark Terra
Blunt, we we ain't thinking. Oh

1439
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:16,880
loved like trust me, I've loved
nothing more to see these men shot executed.

1440
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:21,359
They're traited, They're traitors, They're
traitors people like Chris Witty. I

1441
01:38:21,399 --> 01:38:26,439
don't think Chris Witty is evil.
I don't get that vibe. But he

1442
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:31,039
is absolutely a whore of big Farmer. He's in the pockets of big farm.

1443
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:33,840
He's controlled by them. And I'll
tell you what you know, this

1444
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:39,760
removal removal of God thing. I
bet Chris Witty is a complete atheist because

1445
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:46,720
he's acting like science the science is
God. They're trying to swap spirituality in

1446
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:50,840
God with oh shiny science. Look
at the science and they are we allowed

1447
01:38:50,880 --> 01:38:55,000
to swear? Are we allowed to
say? Neil? I don't know.

1448
01:38:56,600 --> 01:39:01,119
They have fucked it up, the
medical medical establishment have fucked it up.

1449
01:39:01,399 --> 01:39:06,000
If you look at groups like Died
Suddenly, there's tons of groups. Anyone

1450
01:39:06,039 --> 01:39:10,359
listening to this, have a look
at died Suddenly. Join all of their

1451
01:39:10,399 --> 01:39:17,399
groups have all bloods of people with
heart attacks, stroked, blood clots.

1452
01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:21,560
We've got athletes, We've got a
fit athletes dropping dead, left, right

1453
01:39:21,720 --> 01:39:26,640
and center all over the place.
Neil, there's somebody a mutual aquaintance of

1454
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:30,680
ours that you know, four members
of a family got a triple gibd jibbed

1455
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:34,840
and now they're dead. The heart
attacks and strokes. This is genocide.

1456
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:39,159
And now it's come to light.
There's something. There's a drug called rem

1457
01:39:39,279 --> 01:39:43,920
deservir in America, and there's actually
lawsuits going on where thousands of people are

1458
01:39:43,960 --> 01:39:48,720
approaching these two attorneys in California saying
that rendservie. First of all, it

1459
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:54,560
shouldn't be used to treat COVID,
even though the who admitted it shouldn't be

1460
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:59,439
used. But what's happening the medical
establishment in America are using rem deservir to

1461
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:01,479
treat COVID. What does it do? What it shouldn't be used for respiratory

1462
01:40:01,680 --> 01:40:05,960
diseases apparently, And what they're doing
as well is not only is it kind

1463
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:10,640
of like causing breathing problems for people, making the condition worse. They're also

1464
01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:13,279
at the same time saying, oh, well, their lungs are filling up

1465
01:40:13,279 --> 01:40:15,640
with fluid, so it can't give
them food or water, so they're also

1466
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:19,000
starving them and dehydrating them. And
there are family members saying, you know,

1467
01:40:19,199 --> 01:40:23,239
X y Z, my mum,
my dad, my uncle, blah

1468
01:40:23,239 --> 01:40:27,359
blah blah went into hospital with you
know, bad COVID but wasn't life threatening.

1469
01:40:27,399 --> 01:40:30,399
And basically they die and a lot
of it comes down to remdeservit.

1470
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:33,840
And I'll tell you what they're doing. They're asking people if they're jabbed when

1471
01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:38,119
they come in, and if they're
not jabbed, then they immediately go onto

1472
01:40:38,159 --> 01:40:42,319
remdeservie. So it's almost almost a
certain death. And what do they say,

1473
01:40:42,640 --> 01:40:45,039
Oh, well, unjabbed people that
are the most likely people to die

1474
01:40:45,079 --> 01:40:49,319
from COVID, they're not dying from
COVID, they're dying from the red Yeah.

1475
01:40:49,359 --> 01:40:53,800
Absolutely, A bit like in that
first lockdown them a does a lamb

1476
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:58,279
murders and not a murmur from the
good old German public. But they're going

1477
01:40:58,319 --> 01:41:00,920
to shout and screen for this old
lady who died at the weekend, they've

1478
01:41:01,119 --> 01:41:09,600
done with it, done it would
she lovely terrible, terrible going. This

1479
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:14,680
is eugenics. This is genics.
And now we're back to the Nazis as

1480
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:17,520
about she's grandfather was in the prison
of war camps. I mean Bill Gates's

1481
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:20,760
grandfather. He doesn't go too far, does it. Wow. So what

1482
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:26,680
we've got to understand is that these
people there's a great astrologer, what's her

1483
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:28,479
name, Mark, I've given her
a big up, and I've got their

1484
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:30,600
name, Pam, Pam Gregory.
And she was saying in twenty twenty,

1485
01:41:31,039 --> 01:41:34,319
each one of us has a decision
to make this year, and it will

1486
01:41:34,319 --> 01:41:39,119
have ramifications. So choose wisely for
the people. Know, I have had

1487
01:41:39,159 --> 01:41:44,359
three medical interventions. I can't reach
them people, and duing up for the

1488
01:41:44,399 --> 01:41:46,760
fourth they do and then at the
fifth and guess what you get the flu

1489
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:50,800
shop for you with it. They're
beyond help, but perhaps our job is

1490
01:41:50,840 --> 01:41:55,760
not. Still that's a great lot
of energy going on, these people that

1491
01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:59,720
don't want saving, they want their
interventions. I just feel so sorry for

1492
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:01,960
them. Way that they're the fear
that you know, and don't forget the

1493
01:42:02,000 --> 01:42:06,720
government employed psychology called you know,
advisors to to work out how to terrify

1494
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:12,119
the population. They are so terrified
that they genuinely believe they have to have

1495
01:42:12,159 --> 01:42:15,600
that or they're going to die.
Yeah, you know, I mean brainwashing

1496
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:18,000
on that level. I mean you've
got to be bloody strong to withstand it.

1497
01:42:18,039 --> 01:42:21,079
I mean, I was so close
when I when I had COVID,

1498
01:42:21,119 --> 01:42:24,880
it was I knew it was bad
made. I knew it had been released

1499
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:29,600
from China by accident. And when
I had it, what was really weird

1500
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:35,079
was it didn't feel natural. The
smell of it was synthetic. It was

1501
01:42:35,279 --> 01:42:40,119
really weird, the smell of it. You know, perhaps I think I

1502
01:42:40,199 --> 01:42:42,840
added twice now at least, but
do you know what, You survive it

1503
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:46,960
because strangely, we've got an immune
system. It's been so terrified they don't

1504
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:50,239
even believe their immune system will fight
it. You know, isn't it weird

1505
01:42:50,279 --> 01:42:54,920
that this is what I was thinking
watching all of these their little podiums of

1506
01:42:55,079 --> 01:42:58,640
wash your hands and blah blah blah. Not once did they say, do

1507
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:01,039
you know what, maybe go and
get some sunlight, Maybe stone can cut

1508
01:43:01,079 --> 01:43:05,960
down on takeaways, cut down on
fatim get some vitamin, get some zinc,

1509
01:43:06,319 --> 01:43:11,159
and going to meditation and get a
lot of plenty of rest and sleep.

1510
01:43:12,159 --> 01:43:15,840
That all the way. I said
to one guy who was suffering terribly

1511
01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:21,079
after his second intervention, I suggested
a course of vitamins that I highly recommend.

1512
01:43:21,359 --> 01:43:27,520
You said, I am taking that
quackery. Love, I'm done here.

1513
01:43:27,920 --> 01:43:32,800
I'm fastery to take vitamin his crackery. What you mean about the synthetic

1514
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:36,680
thing, I've had it twice as
well. You synthetic smell and yeah,

1515
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:42,359
coffee smelled of burnt barbecue. I
mean I still I had it about a

1516
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:45,359
year ago, that September. I've
still not got my sense of smellback taste.

1517
01:43:45,399 --> 01:43:48,600
So wow. Yeah, I mean, I'm not denying that there's a

1518
01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:53,840
virus out there and absolutely not advice. Yeah, but I think it's weak,

1519
01:43:54,039 --> 01:43:59,239
it's absolutely and this is this bloody
proven. They didn't they in November

1520
01:43:59,279 --> 01:44:03,560
two thousand and nine team for the
election, they rested this one thing,

1521
01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:09,840
what was it, the Bill Gates
kind of forum thing where they said let's

1522
01:44:09,880 --> 01:44:16,239
pretend yeah, and then the senator
around Paul dragged Fauci in front of I

1523
01:44:16,319 --> 01:44:21,119
think it's Congress, and Fauci lied. Fuchi said that he was not involved

1524
01:44:21,119 --> 01:44:26,560
with gain the function research he was
he lied that man is a criminal.

1525
01:44:26,720 --> 01:44:30,119
He's responsible for genocide. If if
it was released on purpose, he is

1526
01:44:30,159 --> 01:44:34,279
a war criminal and should be united
genocide. If it was at least accidentally,

1527
01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:39,199
he should be charged with gross medical
negligence and mad daughter that is,

1528
01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:42,920
I mean, we know, don't
with that Russia in China want to kind

1529
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:45,439
of you know, take over the
world. So what a great idea too,

1530
01:44:46,199 --> 01:44:49,279
you know, accidental see what he
does? You know, there's a

1531
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:56,840
if anyone remembers the seventies series,
it was called Survivors and it was like,

1532
01:44:58,399 --> 01:45:01,960
oh no on Desert Islands. No, No, it was a BBC

1533
01:45:02,359 --> 01:45:08,600
series set in nineteen seventies as well. Where I watched it was seventy five

1534
01:45:08,760 --> 01:45:11,119
something like that. Nineteen seventy five, you had been quite young, so

1535
01:45:11,119 --> 01:45:14,560
perhaps you didn't showing your age.
Yeah, I'm definitely shown my age.

1536
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:19,159
Definitely fown my age. I am
a age And basically what it was it

1537
01:45:19,199 --> 01:45:24,840
would start off with. It basically
was set against a backdrop where this virus

1538
01:45:24,840 --> 01:45:30,159
had somehow got out into the world. But the title sequence said it all

1539
01:45:30,199 --> 01:45:33,680
because it showed a Chinese oriental guy
with a mask on and you know,

1540
01:45:33,880 --> 01:45:39,399
like that sort of medical stuff and
he drops this vial of liquid in slow

1541
01:45:39,479 --> 01:45:43,920
motion and the title and it splashes
to the ground. Then it shows another

1542
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:47,680
Chinese guy getting on a plane from
China flying into Europe, and it's basically

1543
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:53,560
saying, this is how this,
this whatever Germans got out by from China

1544
01:45:54,039 --> 01:45:56,720
into the world, by people flying
them out and stuff, you know,

1545
01:45:57,159 --> 01:46:01,359
and this this this thing is exactly
repeat now in more and more people were

1546
01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:04,680
dying in the TV series, so
there's only small pockets of humanity and they're

1547
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:09,079
literally like a few people in every
body should club together and say, right,

1548
01:46:09,119 --> 01:46:12,239
okay, let's pick up the food
from the stupermarket, but only take

1549
01:46:12,319 --> 01:46:15,840
tin stuff, you know, And
they'd have to make up their own laws

1550
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:18,279
as they went along. On one
featured one episode featured the guy that was

1551
01:46:18,279 --> 01:46:21,720
accused of rape and they hung him
and it turned out to be someone else

1552
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:25,600
or something, And it is the
problems they kind of tackled along the way.

1553
01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:29,640
It's probably our DVD. You watch
it on YouTube, but it's worth

1554
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:32,800
watching for anybody that kind of thing. And the other thing is that Andy,

1555
01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:35,720
we spoke about this a couple of
years ago when we first started seeing

1556
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:41,520
signs of this illness appear on the
streets of China, and we were a

1557
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:45,359
bit baffled from it because you'd see
video footage that these people suddenly running down

1558
01:46:45,399 --> 01:46:48,960
the street and they're dropping in on
the street, and that this is this

1559
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:51,840
is the mysterious illness coming from China. Everybody, watch out, it's coming

1560
01:46:51,880 --> 01:46:57,319
your way. And their report were
in a full had and the count of

1561
01:46:57,319 --> 01:47:01,039
money shorts. But yes, you're
thinking, a how does the caravan know

1562
01:47:01,119 --> 01:47:05,319
that person's going to drop? Yeah, you know, bay Or And if

1563
01:47:05,319 --> 01:47:10,720
you're so ill with COVID, you
won't be running down the streets well with

1564
01:47:10,720 --> 01:47:15,039
with what really made me question the
whole thing right from the very start on

1565
01:47:15,159 --> 01:47:18,640
BBC News. I don't generally tend
to watch BBC News because it's mostly communist

1566
01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:26,319
crap in my opinion. I remember
seeing a footage from China of somebody recording

1567
01:47:26,319 --> 01:47:30,159
on their mobile driving down and there
was basically bodies on the streets, covered

1568
01:47:30,239 --> 01:47:32,840
up bodies, and it wasn't just
one or two, it was just bodies,

1569
01:47:32,880 --> 01:47:35,960
bodies, bodies, bodies, bodies, And at that thought, at

1570
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:41,359
that time, I was thinking,
oh shite, okay, So when it

1571
01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:44,239
came, when it eventually went over
to Europe, which I knew it would

1572
01:47:44,239 --> 01:47:46,680
do. I was just thinking,
oh, great, fantastic when it did

1573
01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:49,119
do, okay, there were some
people that hospitalized, and there were some

1574
01:47:49,159 --> 01:47:53,560
people that were you know, got
it really badly, and some people even

1575
01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:58,680
died, But there was nobody in
the streets who just suddenly collapsed and died.

1576
01:47:59,239 --> 01:48:03,520
No, what was that? Quite
hard to die from it when you

1577
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:09,600
look at the survival rag of what
was in nineteen United Simes, Yes,

1578
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:12,079
it's really hard to die of it, never mind dropped head in the street

1579
01:48:12,079 --> 01:48:16,479
while running for your life. I
remember watching one early early probably in April,

1580
01:48:16,840 --> 01:48:21,359
and they highlighted the dead bodies.
They were covered and blessed them.

1581
01:48:21,359 --> 01:48:25,760
One of these dead bodies little little
fag and had a sniff yeah in an

1582
01:48:25,760 --> 01:48:29,199
ambulance. Yes, yes, yes, And you're like, whoa, what

1583
01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:34,199
the dummies? This is a love
of the dummies in the hospital. They

1584
01:48:34,199 --> 01:48:38,439
had all these news reports and then
you got the and you zoom in and

1585
01:48:38,479 --> 01:48:43,680
it's a money yeah, and Cristis
actors were brought in and we could research

1586
01:48:43,760 --> 01:48:45,560
them a fight. I mean,
it was for feople who's still believing in

1587
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:49,920
this goodness may which if I go
back to spiritually, there has to be

1588
01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:54,800
an exodus or we will create this
again. Yeah, within fifty years it

1589
01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:57,560
will be back to where we are. There has to be an exodus.

1590
01:48:57,600 --> 01:48:59,960
And that brings me no joy to
say it. But I know it's happening.

1591
01:49:00,399 --> 01:49:04,039
I think it's true, you know, because you know the medical intervention.

1592
01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:09,439
You know, injury rates are huge, aren't they. I mean just

1593
01:49:10,199 --> 01:49:14,520
people who I see, you know, post menopause, or women who started

1594
01:49:14,560 --> 01:49:20,239
having periods again, and they people
with gout, people with myocyodiitis. You

1595
01:49:20,279 --> 01:49:24,079
know, I'm hearing all this all
the time, and I just I just

1596
01:49:24,119 --> 01:49:26,800
don't give my opinion on it because
you know, I think it's inappropriate.

1597
01:49:26,840 --> 01:49:30,119
Thiss dwanty to discover yourself. But
all of these things all the time.

1598
01:49:30,159 --> 01:49:33,720
I've heard of deafness, blindness,
the injuries, flooding, Clark, it's

1599
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:40,359
terrible jud points. I want people
listening to this to look up an embalmer

1600
01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:45,960
called Richard Kershman. Richard Kershman and
Obama for at least twenty years. He

1601
01:49:46,039 --> 01:49:54,359
deals with about four hundred bodies per
day. He basically found that it's not

1602
01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:58,319
really so much blood clots that are
going on in jib jabbed people in terms

1603
01:49:58,319 --> 01:50:03,479
of why they're dying. How embalming
works apparently, and the process of embalming

1604
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:08,439
is to kind of preserve the body
for funerals and things like that. They

1605
01:50:08,479 --> 01:50:12,960
pump out all of the blood in
your body and they use something like formaldehyde

1606
01:50:13,560 --> 01:50:16,920
chemicals similar to that to preserve the
body. As he was pumping, and

1607
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:21,880
this is only jibbyjabbed people dead.
Jibijabbed people. As he was pumping,

1608
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:28,359
he was noticing this what can be
described as I think he called it and

1609
01:50:28,359 --> 01:50:32,720
adoid proteins, this biological material that's
like an elastic band. It's yellow,

1610
01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:36,359
and it's stretchy, and it's pingy, and this is coming out of people's

1611
01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:40,880
veins and there's plumps of it.
And he's saying, it's not the blood

1612
01:50:40,920 --> 01:50:44,399
plots that are doing it, it's
whatever this is that grow in it.

1613
01:50:45,319 --> 01:50:50,359
And when they were working on our
MNA technology about about twenty ten, because

1614
01:50:50,399 --> 01:50:54,920
this is not new technology, folks, twenty ten, guess who was working

1615
01:50:54,920 --> 01:50:59,399
on it, Anthony Faucci. Just
a coincidence, but they found that more

1616
01:50:59,479 --> 01:51:02,760
or less all of the animals when
they were doing that the tests were dying

1617
01:51:03,319 --> 01:51:08,000
like this r M and A stuff
even dangerous, It is not working and

1618
01:51:08,079 --> 01:51:11,319
it is killing. So what did
they decide to do? Hey, let's

1619
01:51:11,399 --> 01:51:15,359
use it on humans in twenty twenty? Awesome, well done, Oh world,

1620
01:51:15,479 --> 01:51:17,880
let's go for it. Yeah,
mad And what your intention for it

1621
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:19,920
is? Though? Don't it?
This is it? If it's a US

1622
01:51:21,439 --> 01:51:25,680
as something else? I didn't know, my God, and I need to

1623
01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:29,760
find out if this is actually true, because I've heard of it. Apparently

1624
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:34,520
the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation,
before it was called the Belinda Melinda Gates

1625
01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:42,000
Foundation, was actually called something like
the Foundation for Human Depopulation Go Wow or

1626
01:51:42,079 --> 01:51:45,880
some similar name to that. I
just thought, well, there you have

1627
01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:55,000
it, the Geia guide Stones.
You've been destroyed. So and do you

1628
01:51:55,039 --> 01:51:58,840
know about? I know, Ben
did something Ben Emlin jails offer a live

1629
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:01,479
stream on the Georgia guy Stones,
and weirdly I had a dream about them.

1630
01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:05,319
How did you? Yeah? But
they like just blocks a cement in

1631
01:52:05,399 --> 01:52:09,880
my dream. And then oddly enough
I was listening to a podcast the next

1632
01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:13,239
day when they suddenly announced the Georgia
Guidstones have been destroyed, and I thought,

1633
01:52:13,640 --> 01:52:17,319
exact had no really interesting I vaguely
heard them. Have I heard they've

1634
01:52:17,319 --> 01:52:20,039
got some inscription on there. No
one knows much about them. I had

1635
01:52:20,039 --> 01:52:24,960
a dream about the next day they've
been you know, they knocked down or

1636
01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:28,119
taken down on something destroyed. Yeah. Yeah, So what's the background of

1637
01:52:28,159 --> 01:52:31,520
the Georgia guidestones exactly? So the
Georgia guystones were I think there were three

1638
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:38,359
slabs together. Some people kind of
like wondered who they were built by.

1639
01:52:38,399 --> 01:52:41,279
We don't really know. I think
there's some some initials, but I forgot

1640
01:52:41,319 --> 01:52:45,520
what the initials were, and they're
in I think there's something like five languages

1641
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:48,359
or kind of seven languages, something
like that, and they basically talk about

1642
01:52:48,479 --> 01:52:55,760
keeping the world global population under five
hundred million. I think this global population

1643
01:52:55,840 --> 01:52:58,560
is currently what is it, eight
billion something like that on planet Earth.

1644
01:52:58,760 --> 01:53:01,079
So they want to produce it to
five one hundred million. And it sounds

1645
01:53:01,119 --> 01:53:04,600
wonderful, some of these things like
living in harmony with nature and all this

1646
01:53:04,680 --> 01:53:10,920
kind of thing. It sounds wonderful
until you realize the underpinning vibe is basically

1647
01:53:11,079 --> 01:53:15,079
killed humans, get rid of humans, and that seems to be kind of

1648
01:53:15,119 --> 01:53:17,960
their agenda. It also seems to
be the green agenda as well. Now,

1649
01:53:18,439 --> 01:53:23,000
to make it very clear that I
do not want a toxic, polluted

1650
01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:28,000
planet. And I don't want plastic
in the oceans. I don't want turtles

1651
01:53:28,159 --> 01:53:31,439
with straws in their mouths, and
I don't want you know, toxic crap

1652
01:53:31,479 --> 01:53:34,720
pumping out all over the place.
I'm all for decent, you know,

1653
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:40,760
green energy, But the green agenda, when you really look at it,

1654
01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:45,760
be where the watermelons. Watermelons are
green on the outside, red i e.

1655
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:48,840
Communist on the inside. And so
when you view some of the green

1656
01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:53,199
agendas and they talk about wanting a
green society and all this kind of thing,

1657
01:53:53,239 --> 01:53:55,520
and you really get down to it
and you ask them, okay,

1658
01:53:55,560 --> 01:53:58,600
so what's your solution. What do
you reckon? Then they start spouting out

1659
01:53:58,600 --> 01:54:03,479
communists drivel and it's about culling the
world population one hundred percent. And that's

1660
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:05,840
that's the next bit is the green
agenda is going to be locumed in.

1661
01:54:06,079 --> 01:54:09,159
Everyone's going to be seeing that.
Then, yeah, we could be great

1662
01:54:09,159 --> 01:54:13,520
citizens. Now this is, in
my opinion, the introdution of the social

1663
01:54:13,560 --> 01:54:15,760
credits. Yeah, this is where
it's going. Yeah, there's no other

1664
01:54:15,840 --> 01:54:19,079
way about it. You guys must
be must be fans of gb News.

1665
01:54:19,119 --> 01:54:24,920
Do you like do you watch gen? Yeah? I love Neil Oliver.

1666
01:54:26,279 --> 01:54:30,399
Yeah, he's just fantastic. He
used to work on the BBC ironically,

1667
01:54:30,479 --> 01:54:32,560
but if anyone's listening to this,
please listen to gb News. It's about

1668
01:54:32,600 --> 01:54:38,119
the only place you'll get It's not
absolutely hundred percent perfect, but then what

1669
01:54:38,199 --> 01:54:43,239
channel is. But it's the only
channel that's actually challenging anything, including jib

1670
01:54:43,319 --> 01:54:45,640
jabs, the net zero agenda and
all that kind of thing. Neil Oliver

1671
01:54:46,159 --> 01:54:50,760
said that something his wife said was
very poignant and stuff with him. The

1672
01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:57,720
green agenda is not really about making
everything green. It's more about going without

1673
01:54:58,159 --> 01:55:01,800
Yes one percent, going with our
is cutting things from your when you get

1674
01:55:01,840 --> 01:55:05,159
these kind of like where they talk
about net zero and how wonderful net zero

1675
01:55:05,279 --> 01:55:09,720
is. Oh yeah, well you
had zero carbon and everything. Okay,

1676
01:55:09,760 --> 01:55:14,359
so what you're going to fill it
with and there's no real tills. Radio

1677
01:55:14,479 --> 01:55:17,680
is challenging that in a big way
talk radio and talk that's really worth for

1678
01:55:17,800 --> 01:55:20,439
watch. Yeah, good, good
good. And also, whilst we're talking

1679
01:55:20,439 --> 01:55:25,439
about alternative media, there's UK column
News. Yeah, yeah, as well.

1680
01:55:25,560 --> 01:55:29,479
You can find on they're not on
YouTube anymore because they were one of

1681
01:55:29,479 --> 01:55:32,680
the first independent media broadcasters. If
you like, they're based in Plymouth,

1682
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:41,439
ironically based Toads, and they had
an interview with a lady whose husband had

1683
01:55:41,479 --> 01:55:47,000
suffered from a certain illness syndrome as
it were, that prevented him from walking

1684
01:55:47,279 --> 01:55:51,439
not long after having medical interventions,
and one of the first reports that came

1685
01:55:51,479 --> 01:55:55,600
out and because they were just having
an interview about it, this is what

1686
01:55:55,640 --> 01:55:59,319
my husband is suffering. He can
barely walk, you know, within two

1687
01:55:59,399 --> 01:56:03,760
days of having medical intervention. And
so YouTube took a disliking to it and

1688
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:06,560
said that, you know, they're
not telling the truth or whatever claim they

1689
01:56:06,600 --> 01:56:13,560
may and they shut down their YouTube
channel. So now you can find where

1690
01:56:13,600 --> 01:56:16,960
you can go to the UK column
News website or you can go to Rumble

1691
01:56:17,079 --> 01:56:21,880
and search UK column News there and
they're usually do a broadcast around lunch times,

1692
01:56:21,880 --> 01:56:28,199
but you can also catch it up
on the internet. But they're Mondays,

1693
01:56:28,239 --> 01:56:30,640
Wednesdays and Fridays, I believe,
and they have various people there.

1694
01:56:31,039 --> 01:56:34,560
One of the guys is actually American. Was they are two Americans that come

1695
01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:39,720
on. One of there's a more
recent guy called Mark West I think his

1696
01:56:39,800 --> 01:56:42,760
name is, and he had actually
recently gone to a thing in America,

1697
01:56:42,880 --> 01:56:46,279
like a big convention called the Red
Pill expog which is worth checking out.

1698
01:56:46,319 --> 01:56:49,199
Read about it on their website.
But from what I understand, it's basically

1699
01:56:49,279 --> 01:56:55,640
like a big convention of people like
us that would all get together, might

1700
01:56:55,680 --> 01:56:59,720
be spiritually aware people, people that
reject this kind of society's being imposed upon

1701
01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:03,359
us. They reject certain medical interventions, they reject the narrative, and they're

1702
01:57:03,399 --> 01:57:08,119
looking under the bonnet of these things
and trying to dig deep and find out

1703
01:57:08,119 --> 01:57:11,399
what's going on. So you find
one speakers, they're telling you about what's

1704
01:57:11,439 --> 01:57:15,439
really happening in China, What is
the cause of China's you know, how

1705
01:57:15,439 --> 01:57:17,520
come China's expanded so quickly, and
it's through the banks that have all got

1706
01:57:17,560 --> 01:57:21,239
this agreement you know that we don't
know about, and they're funding this and

1707
01:57:21,279 --> 01:57:25,079
funding that, and they're going to
crash the economy, et cetera, et

1708
01:57:25,119 --> 01:57:29,600
cetera, et cetera. So check
out also everybody. The Red Expo in

1709
01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:31,880
the United States, I believe they
had like a summer conference. They might

1710
01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:36,600
have smaller conferences maybe around that country, I don't know, but maybe largely.

1711
01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:39,840
You know, there's the new spreads
of the Red collex Bow. It

1712
01:57:39,920 --> 01:57:43,920
might start ending up over here because
it's been exposed to us through the UK

1713
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:46,960
colonies, and who knows, they
might start organizing something like that. Maybe

1714
01:57:47,000 --> 01:57:50,119
we'll be involved in it in some
way in the future. Who knows.

1715
01:57:51,399 --> 01:57:56,760
We're checking out Red Collex Bow on
the Internet as well. So we're coming

1716
01:57:56,840 --> 01:58:00,279
up to a close soon in the
next five minutes. So where do we

1717
01:58:00,359 --> 01:58:04,039
see ourselves going in the next five
ten years? Jaying and Mark with this?

1718
01:58:04,159 --> 01:58:09,880
What have you got any psychic predictions
or anything that's been shed light to

1719
01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:12,680
you on what's going to happen.
I just want to kind of go back

1720
01:58:12,720 --> 01:58:15,439
to where we started if I can
just just sort of finish off what I

1721
01:58:15,479 --> 01:58:18,359
was saying, because I'm just just
thinking about what I said. I'm very

1722
01:58:18,359 --> 01:58:21,359
aware there's all lots of different souls
that are awake at the time. There

1723
01:58:21,399 --> 01:58:25,000
is a place for the warriors,
there is a place for the research is

1724
01:58:25,039 --> 01:58:28,399
there's a place for the fighters.
Personally, where I sit, I'm no

1725
01:58:28,439 --> 01:58:30,880
good at any of them roles.
So I'm going to sit and hold as

1726
01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:34,119
much goodness as I can and help
people that way. But everybody's out on

1727
01:58:34,119 --> 01:58:36,840
the streets making a noise, fair
play to them, that's what their soul

1728
01:58:36,920 --> 01:58:40,800
come to do. I'm just trying
to say, like my soul's tried it,

1729
01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:43,319
it's not for me. It makes
me poorly. I've got to hold

1730
01:58:43,319 --> 01:58:45,399
the light. And any advice I
could give is, when we're being pulled

1731
01:58:45,439 --> 01:58:49,279
into the fear or we're getting depressed, have two weeks off align yourself.

1732
01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:55,079
Spirit of shown me. We can
focus on all that's bad in the world,

1733
01:58:55,520 --> 01:58:59,159
or we can go all love and
light and same thing's wonderful. Neither

1734
01:58:59,239 --> 01:59:01,760
of those does any good. We've
got to stay as spiritual people in the

1735
01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:06,199
middle lane. We must. This
is a war our minds, our souls,

1736
01:59:06,239 --> 01:59:11,600
and this is spiritual warfare. This
is the final battle. So although

1737
01:59:12,119 --> 01:59:15,159
go and fight, go shout.
I've done my fair share. I know

1738
01:59:15,239 --> 01:59:17,920
that I work best, I help
people best when I'm out of the fear

1739
01:59:18,000 --> 01:59:23,039
zone and just doing my thing.
Here I agree. I tell you what

1740
01:59:23,079 --> 01:59:27,079
I do as a kind of almost
a therapeutic thing that also helps helps people.

1741
01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:32,039
My view is I'm a graphic designer
and I do photoshop quite a lot,

1742
01:59:32,319 --> 01:59:38,600
and I create a lot of memes
brilliant. My thing is to undermine

1743
01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:42,680
the bullshit system with memes, and
I try and join as many groups as

1744
01:59:42,720 --> 01:59:45,560
I can and spread stuff as many
as I can. So for instance,

1745
01:59:45,600 --> 01:59:49,079
like you know the people with the
podiums at number ten doing all their things,

1746
01:59:49,279 --> 01:59:54,039
I will just change the text for
like brilliant blah blah blah blah blah,

1747
01:59:54,279 --> 01:59:56,840
and I just spread those around.
I want to say, I call

1748
01:59:56,880 --> 01:59:59,439
it a sigh up, you know, which is a you know, psychological

1749
01:59:59,479 --> 02:00:02,359
operation my job. I think it
a sign up to try and undermine and

1750
02:00:02,520 --> 02:00:08,560
get people get normal everyday people,
are you really being told the truth?

1751
02:00:09,760 --> 02:00:14,039
Or if I can spark something something
that makes people think, well maybe I'm

1752
02:00:14,039 --> 02:00:19,079
being manipulating that has a snowball effect, that's so. Look, I this

1753
02:00:19,119 --> 02:00:23,560
has been my point in all of
this is connect to your soul because your

1754
02:00:23,640 --> 02:00:28,000
soul will guide you through it and
down the path that's ride for you.

1755
02:00:28,159 --> 02:00:31,159
So you know, Jane's holding the
lid, you're doing memes. I guess

1756
02:00:31,159 --> 02:00:34,239
what I'm doing is really helping people
to connect to their own soul so that

1757
02:00:34,279 --> 02:00:38,920
they can feel for themselves. Should
they have any interventions, are they going

1758
02:00:39,000 --> 02:00:41,960
to be okay? Do they need
to take a supplement. I'm helping people

1759
02:00:42,000 --> 02:00:44,960
to connect to their souls in my
work all the time, every day,

1760
02:00:44,960 --> 02:00:47,800
all day in my teaching everything.
And that's what I can offer because it's

1761
02:00:47,840 --> 02:00:51,159
by being connected to your soul and
you'll get through this and you'll be all

1762
02:00:51,239 --> 02:00:55,800
right in whatever comes next. Yes, you're where You've got to keep connected

1763
02:00:55,880 --> 02:00:58,760
yourself. That's what they're trying to
sever. That is exactly what they're trying

1764
02:00:58,760 --> 02:01:01,960
to sever it. And that's why, in my opinion, that does And

1765
02:01:02,199 --> 02:01:05,079
I want to expect that. When
I say soul, I don't mean spirit.

1766
02:01:05,159 --> 02:01:09,279
So I'm not saying connect to your
dead Granny. I'm talking about your

1767
02:01:09,359 --> 02:01:13,119
own soul essence. Yeah, because
for all we know, Granny may have

1768
02:01:13,159 --> 02:01:15,760
been, you know, queuing up
for some treatment. We don't. We

1769
02:01:15,800 --> 02:01:17,079
don't. This is not a time
to be going to Branny for advice on

1770
02:01:17,119 --> 02:01:20,680
this. We need drink our own
soul, you know. Yeah, Yes,

1771
02:01:21,640 --> 02:01:26,520
exactly the opposite of transhumanism. Transhumanism
wants to remove the succe. Yes,

1772
02:01:26,600 --> 02:01:29,560
yeah, put in science. That's
what I do. That's that's what

1773
02:01:29,640 --> 02:01:32,600
I think my work is about.
Therefore, we know by now that why

1774
02:01:32,720 --> 02:01:36,399
we put our energy is what materializes
on the earthplane. We know that to

1775
02:01:36,439 --> 02:01:40,720
be true. If I sit and
think to it long enough, I'm give

1776
02:01:40,760 --> 02:01:44,520
myself a headache, if that's my
intention. So as much as we're outraged

1777
02:01:44,560 --> 02:01:47,600
and angry, there also has to
be a period of okay, we need

1778
02:01:47,640 --> 02:01:51,239
to bring in. It sounds so
corny, but it's true when it almost

1779
02:01:51,279 --> 02:01:55,319
be bringing the balance as well,
love for ourselves. Have a night off

1780
02:01:55,399 --> 02:01:59,119
it sometimes, Yeah, absolutely,
because we can drive ourselves mad with this.

1781
02:01:59,199 --> 02:02:02,319
Yeah, that's what it's intended for. It's interest in having an eye

1782
02:02:02,359 --> 02:02:05,560
off. I'll repeat this story.
I said it last month, but for

1783
02:02:05,800 --> 02:02:10,600
those that haven't known this story,
I think it's worth repeating, as you

1784
02:02:10,640 --> 02:02:14,359
guys are here anyway, because you
haven't heard it, have an eye off.

1785
02:02:14,359 --> 02:02:16,079
There's a guy that we interviewed about
a year and a half ago.

1786
02:02:18,359 --> 02:02:21,239
I forget his name, Robert,
I think, and he told us a

1787
02:02:21,319 --> 02:02:26,720
very interesting story. He knows a
bus driver, very kind of basically down

1788
02:02:26,760 --> 02:02:30,199
to a conventional job. But the
guy is actually very very psychic and mediumistic.

1789
02:02:30,920 --> 02:02:34,279
You know. So when I've done
talks about this strug, I call

1790
02:02:34,359 --> 02:02:40,079
him Reg Farni because I add on
the buses. People can identify that in

1791
02:02:40,119 --> 02:02:42,920
the UK anyway, if you're a
certain age like me, you know.

1792
02:02:44,840 --> 02:02:48,319
But anyway, this this this guy, he's having contact with spirit all the

1793
02:02:48,399 --> 02:02:54,319
time. And one of the things
that's happened to him is that he was

1794
02:02:54,399 --> 02:02:59,640
laying in his bed to sleep and
he was woken up by spirits or someone

1795
02:02:59,760 --> 02:03:02,920
saying go downstairs, go downstairs there, and being really imperative, you must

1796
02:03:02,920 --> 02:03:05,600
go downstairs to the living room.
And he just said, oh, no,

1797
02:03:05,640 --> 02:03:08,359
I want to go to sleep,
and they said, no, please

1798
02:03:08,399 --> 02:03:11,960
go downstairs. There's something really important. So the guy, reluckily he got

1799
02:03:12,000 --> 02:03:14,920
out of bed went downstairs. And
as he went downstairs, he noticed his

1800
02:03:15,079 --> 02:03:17,800
living room door was open and there
was a blue light coming from the living

1801
02:03:17,880 --> 02:03:21,520
room, and he thought, did
I not did I forget to draw the

1802
02:03:21,640 --> 02:03:26,000
curtains? You know? Is there
like a street lamp shining into my living

1803
02:03:26,079 --> 02:03:30,920
room? So he went into the
living room and the sources of this blue

1804
02:03:30,039 --> 02:03:36,640
light was three huge, tall humanoid
beans in his living room. Two were

1805
02:03:36,680 --> 02:03:42,640
sitting on the sofa, the other
one was standing up. He described them

1806
02:03:42,960 --> 02:03:46,840
as almost like wizards, if you're
like long downs wearing staff's long beards,

1807
02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:50,960
long hair. So I'm thinking something
like Gandalf. That's the kind of thing

1808
02:03:51,000 --> 02:03:56,439
I got in my head. And
they said thank you for coming down,

1809
02:03:56,439 --> 02:04:00,600
says we've got something to tell you
very important. And this was probably going

1810
02:04:00,640 --> 02:04:04,439
about maybe two to three years ago
now when this post possibly occurred. And

1811
02:04:04,520 --> 02:04:10,479
they said, things are going to
get really bad, really bad. So

1812
02:04:10,600 --> 02:04:14,960
everybody says, but you're not to
worry about other people. They said to

1813
02:04:15,039 --> 02:04:17,800
him, just be concerned for yourself, don't worry about other people. Don't

1814
02:04:17,800 --> 02:04:24,920
take on other people's problems. And
they said, pay attention to America because

1815
02:04:24,920 --> 02:04:30,560
whatever happens in America will affect this
country. So they're also talking geographically quite

1816
02:04:30,159 --> 02:04:33,560
yeah, And they said, but
just don't concern himself, you know,

1817
02:04:33,560 --> 02:04:39,439
don't worry too much about other people. And where these people vanished and not.

1818
02:04:39,479 --> 02:04:43,840
I don't know how that wraps itself
up in the end. But apparently

1819
02:04:44,039 --> 02:04:51,119
this spirit that the spokesperson of this
trio was known as Barnabas and apparently he's

1820
02:04:51,119 --> 02:04:55,800
something to do with UFOs, blind
sources, aliens, that kind of thing,

1821
02:04:56,920 --> 02:05:00,840
so I'm told, rather than a
conventional spirit or spirit, but spiritual

1822
02:05:00,960 --> 02:05:06,079
nevertheless, I guess. And anyway, maybe a year later, I think

1823
02:05:06,520 --> 02:05:13,239
the illness hit us, the COVID
from China, and this guy was apparently

1824
02:05:14,600 --> 02:05:16,640
still getting worried getting involved in people's
problems, and he was walking through his

1825
02:05:16,680 --> 02:05:20,880
hallway and out of the living room
came this tall being again like a year

1826
02:05:20,960 --> 02:05:25,800
later. Well, he said,
I've told you not to get involved in

1827
02:05:25,840 --> 02:05:29,640
people's problems. You're getting yourself too
worried about people's problem. And he put

1828
02:05:29,720 --> 02:05:31,760
his arms around him with his cloak
and get him a great by can't bear

1829
02:05:31,880 --> 02:05:36,800
hug, and then this guy just
vanished. And the guy thought, whoa,

1830
02:05:36,920 --> 02:05:40,880
that was weird. So he went
into the kitchen to get a cup

1831
02:05:40,920 --> 02:05:44,640
of tea. But he went and
caught himself on something. He realized that

1832
02:05:44,720 --> 02:05:49,199
somehow he's wearing this guy's cloak now
on the door handle as he went in

1833
02:05:49,239 --> 02:05:53,920
to get himself a cup of tea
or something. So but I was thinking,

1834
02:05:53,960 --> 02:05:56,920
well, where is this cloak,
this spiritual cloak. I want to

1835
02:05:56,920 --> 02:06:00,600
see it if it's still aware or
did it slowly fade away itself. But

1836
02:06:00,680 --> 02:06:05,399
basically the message was the important thing
is that they seem to be aware that

1837
02:06:05,479 --> 02:06:09,439
things are going to get bad,
and that's why they told this guy,

1838
02:06:10,119 --> 02:06:13,720
you know, don't get to involve. But they're obviously give them their heads

1839
02:06:13,760 --> 02:06:16,560
up on this sort of thing,
so they're definitely aware that something's in the

1840
02:06:16,600 --> 02:06:18,720
air as it were. This is
massive. I mean, this has been

1841
02:06:18,760 --> 02:06:21,119
predicted since time began, really,
hasn't it. You know, this is

1842
02:06:21,520 --> 02:06:27,199
I call it the final battle between
God and Satan, and everything else goes

1843
02:06:27,199 --> 02:06:31,039
in. It's already playing out.
We can devote our lives to every minute

1844
02:06:31,039 --> 02:06:34,600
detail of this and get very poorly
and be very low vibrational, or we

1845
02:06:34,680 --> 02:06:38,079
can say, you know, I
see what's going on. I'm having no

1846
02:06:38,159 --> 02:06:40,560
part of it. I'll make my
decisions when the time comes, and I'm

1847
02:06:40,560 --> 02:06:43,520
going to live a good life.
That's what they don't want. They don't

1848
02:06:43,560 --> 02:06:45,640
want joy, they don't want laughter. They can't do anything with it,

1849
02:06:45,640 --> 02:06:47,479
they don't relate to it. I
believe they're not even of our DNA.

1850
02:06:48,079 --> 02:06:51,159
That's a whole other subject. I
don't even think they're human, nor do

1851
02:06:51,279 --> 02:06:55,279
I Andrew, nor do I.
They could have behaved like this if they

1852
02:06:55,319 --> 02:07:00,680
were. Hence why they're so again
a very off tangent spirit. We will

1853
02:07:00,720 --> 02:07:04,680
be looked after if when we start
to look after ourselves and raise our consciousness

1854
02:07:04,720 --> 02:07:08,920
above this ship show. We're being
played out. Yeah, I call it

1855
02:07:08,960 --> 02:07:15,159
a movie, and it's a crap
movie. It's boring, boring. I'm

1856
02:07:15,159 --> 02:07:19,039
going to go out to the foyer, whether we yeah for this name more?

1857
02:07:19,600 --> 02:07:25,000
Okay, So we're drawing to a
close here now. So obviously you

1858
02:07:25,159 --> 02:07:29,640
do your mediumistic demonstrations and readings of
people. So maybe if people want to

1859
02:07:29,680 --> 02:07:31,439
find out more about you, You've
got a few things you can tell us

1860
02:07:31,479 --> 02:07:35,800
about, haven't you. So what's
the first my website? Maybe first part

1861
02:07:35,840 --> 02:07:43,920
call is www dot Jane Hartshorn James
dot com. I've got a Jane Hartstrom

1862
02:07:43,960 --> 02:07:48,880
page on Facebook. Mark can do
is okay? So mind's Marcaskwon dot co

1863
02:07:48,960 --> 02:07:54,800
dot UK. That's the website,
and there's a Facebook page called Soulful Connections.

1864
02:07:55,119 --> 02:07:58,560
You can look at that. And
then just after Christmas we invented heart

1865
02:07:58,640 --> 02:08:01,279
Hub, where we tried to get
spiritual and personal development all under one roof,

1866
02:08:01,359 --> 02:08:05,079
and we run that via YouTube.
There is a Facebook page called heart

1867
02:08:05,119 --> 02:08:11,079
Hub HRT hyphen Hub and there's plenty
free content on YouTube. Is there a

1868
02:08:11,119 --> 02:08:13,279
better plug than that, Mark for
half hub or no? I think the

1869
02:08:13,319 --> 02:08:16,039
Facebook page is good, isn't it? And then it'll do that. From

1870
02:08:16,079 --> 02:08:22,840
that you find links to our material
on YouTube. Okay, excellent? And

1871
02:08:22,000 --> 02:08:26,159
you still run a psychic developing circle
Jane I do. I'm going to restart

1872
02:08:26,159 --> 02:08:30,159
it again in the new year,
not this year. So that's where I

1873
02:08:30,279 --> 02:08:35,319
literally teach people how to develop their
own psychic and mediumistic abilities if they fancy

1874
02:08:35,359 --> 02:08:39,239
it. So all very easy going. I'm quite a patient teacher, art

1875
02:08:39,239 --> 02:08:43,239
teacher from scratch. And that's in
Dorchester. It is, yeah, Dorchester

1876
02:08:43,560 --> 02:08:48,119
in in in the UK for anyone
that's in that area, and that would

1877
02:08:48,119 --> 02:08:52,399
be on a Thursday evening, Thursday
evening. It was a Thursday evening.

1878
02:08:52,479 --> 02:08:56,159
It was yeah, cooled, but
half seven. Yeah, presumably the same

1879
02:08:56,199 --> 02:08:58,119
place where you do the It will
be when I arrange it, but I

1880
02:08:58,159 --> 02:09:03,399
haven't got anything down on okay,
so so stay for those people, get

1881
02:09:03,399 --> 02:09:05,479
onto Facebook, go to heartshub and
Jane and put the details out there when

1882
02:09:05,680 --> 02:09:11,479
definitely definitely the other stuff. Yeah
okay, Well, thank you very very

1883
02:09:11,560 --> 02:09:13,920
much indeed, Mark and Jane for
joining us. It's been fascinating for ours.

1884
02:09:13,920 --> 02:09:20,840
We've covered a lot of stuff there
to get our teeth into and conversation

1885
02:09:20,960 --> 02:09:26,079
and it's great refreshing to listen to
people with a sympathetic ear like ourselves,

1886
02:09:26,159 --> 02:09:31,479
I hope anyway, and likewise to
come back to that sort of thing we

1887
02:09:31,560 --> 02:09:33,960
find it incredibly frustrating when we can
beenture out into the world and everyone's sort

1888
02:09:35,000 --> 02:09:37,880
of going down that like a narrow
band of thinking, you know, the

1889
02:09:39,520 --> 02:09:43,359
sheep pen sort of style of thinking. But it's kind of refreshing here on

1890
02:09:43,399 --> 02:09:46,840
the Paranormal Peep Show that we are
talking about alternative things, not just spiritual

1891
02:09:46,880 --> 02:09:50,399
stuff, but alternative for ways of
looking and things. But I suppose I

1892
02:09:50,479 --> 02:09:56,079
better say, officially for the powers
that be, please check the World Health

1893
02:09:56,159 --> 02:10:01,039
Organization for all your latest medical updates. Everybody you know mentioned the advice of

1894
02:10:01,039 --> 02:10:03,880
that. You know, I'm sure
that that's the most important thing that everybody

1895
02:10:03,920 --> 02:10:05,960
should be listening to. Now look
after you know, I vest did interests

1896
02:10:07,000 --> 02:10:09,439
whatsoever. Of course, all that
note, I've got a few final words

1897
02:10:09,479 --> 02:10:13,319
as well. I want to appeal
to all of those people listening to this

1898
02:10:13,439 --> 02:10:18,039
that have got a where what we're
talking about resonates with them, and all

1899
02:10:18,079 --> 02:10:22,159
the people who realize that we are
in a spiritual battle and a spiritual warfare.

1900
02:10:24,079 --> 02:10:26,000
And I want to say that we
need to approach this from almost a

1901
02:10:26,119 --> 02:10:33,600
Shaolin monk perspective. The Shaolin monks
are the monks in China who basically created

1902
02:10:33,680 --> 02:10:39,079
kung fures of years ago, possibly
thousands of years ago, and they wanted

1903
02:10:39,119 --> 02:10:43,000
to just be left alone. And
they're into peace, and they're into meditation,

1904
02:10:43,199 --> 02:10:48,319
and they're into doing things peacefully but
also strength. The reason kung fu

1905
02:10:48,680 --> 02:10:54,159
was developed was because they were originally
almost annihilated through war through tribes attacking them.

1906
02:10:54,359 --> 02:10:58,479
Only a few of them survived,
and they then created kung fu to

1907
02:10:58,520 --> 02:11:03,840
defend themselves. We are in that
same situation as humanity. So we just

1908
02:11:03,199 --> 02:11:07,079
as libertarians, we just want to
be left alone. But unfortunately we have

1909
02:11:07,119 --> 02:11:11,399
a very dark, very evil force
that wants to wipe us out. So

1910
02:11:11,680 --> 02:11:16,119
the people that are listening, I
want you to see if you can work

1911
02:11:16,159 --> 02:11:22,319
out for yourself what you can do
to undermine the lies that we're being told

1912
02:11:22,720 --> 02:11:26,600
and how we might be able to
take down the darkness in a non violent

1913
02:11:26,159 --> 02:11:31,119
and legal way. So whether and
I know that there are good and bad

1914
02:11:31,239 --> 02:11:35,439
in all walks of life, whether
it's the military, the police, the

1915
02:11:35,479 --> 02:11:39,960
secret services, the CIA, MI
five, I six, whatever, there

1916
02:11:39,000 --> 02:11:43,399
are good and bad in everything,
and I know there will be some good

1917
02:11:43,399 --> 02:11:48,039
people. And I want to basically
speak out to the good people in the

1918
02:11:48,079 --> 02:11:52,600
police and the military and the secret
services. Do you want your children grandchildren

1919
02:11:52,720 --> 02:12:00,399
to grow up in an absolute hellhole, a communist, fascist social credits system

1920
02:12:00,560 --> 02:12:03,840
hellhole, or do you want people
to go up in freedom and liberty.

1921
02:12:05,000 --> 02:12:07,199
That's the choice that you've got.
If you're listening to this, can you

1922
02:12:07,239 --> 02:12:11,840
please think of ways? Of course, we can't do that. We're not

1923
02:12:11,880 --> 02:12:16,680
in those circles to take down the
darkness. There are people who need arresting,

1924
02:12:18,000 --> 02:12:22,600
there are files that need being brought
to court of people that want to

1925
02:12:22,720 --> 02:12:26,359
kill us. Have a little thin
search your soul. I know your mortgage

1926
02:12:26,439 --> 02:12:30,680
might be on the line, I
know your reputation might be on the line,

1927
02:12:30,800 --> 02:12:33,680
and I know your credibility, etc. Might be on the line.

1928
02:12:33,720 --> 02:12:37,640
But we are really in a do
or die situation. Can you please do

1929
02:12:37,720 --> 02:12:39,960
something about it? And that's all
I want to say on that. Okay,

1930
02:12:41,439 --> 02:12:43,479
thank you, wise words indeed,
thanks Andy, right, well,

1931
02:12:43,479 --> 02:12:48,159
thank you very much once again.
Catch us next month on the Paranormal Peep

1932
02:12:48,199 --> 02:12:50,159
Show thanks to our guest Mark and
Jane wantsmore. Catch us next month on

1933
02:12:50,199 --> 02:12:56,319
the Paranoral Peep Show on the Paranormal
UK Radio Network. And we're on Spreaker,

1934
02:12:56,359 --> 02:13:01,439
We're on YouTube, we're on Rumble
and many other audio platforms that I

1935
02:13:01,439 --> 02:13:05,359
can think of, but they're the
ones that come to mind. So hopefully

1936
02:13:05,560 --> 02:13:11,079
you've taken away in some bits of
information here that might be worth pondering on,

1937
02:13:11,279 --> 02:13:15,640
as it were in part one and
part two. Thanks very much indeed

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02:13:15,640 --> 02:14:00,880
for listening, and we'll see an
X amount I'll buy now take care then

1939
02:14:01,319 --> 02:14:07,359
to the very play, the positor
noting to the