Hey everyone, Before we get into today's episode, I just want to throw
in a quick warning. We recorded this episode in person with our other friend
Nick, and in doing that, we ended up sacrificing the audio a little
bit. So sometimes there's a crackling sound and it might sound a little more
echoee than normal, and that's because we were just in a room, chit
chatting, hanging out as friends. So this is a great episode if you're
someone who likes to just listen to friends talk and have a good time and
act like you're in the room with us. But if this is your first
episode of Get It Alive, maybe pick a different one that has better quality
so you know that they don't all sound like this. That being said,
you can still listen. It's still great information, but the audio is definitely
not the best. We are not professionals by any means. We just do
this because we love it and we love putting it out there for all of
you. So with that, please enjoy our episode about dolphins. Welcome to
episode twenty eight of Get Out a Live podcasts where me your host Ashley every
other week tells you to do animal attack story, and other host Nick is
here with my roommate and very good friend Nick. Hey, everybody, that's
Nick. Wow. That was such a cop out for not saying like,
I'm your other host, Nick, and I am here all right. Yeah,
so we are recording at my apartment right now with the three of us,
and I was trying to get stuff ready and was not prepared for what
were you getting ready the audio? Oh yeah, that's true. Sorry,
yeah, I was like, you've done no preparation. We tested it for
like ten minutes. I think that's exaggerating. Anyways, something it is,
all right, whatever, okay, not that you know what we're talking about
today? No, nope, no, great, Okay, any guesses this
is the thing I mentioned to you very recently. Oh boy, you mentioned
a lot of animals. To be fair, I do well. I asked
if is cute? You said they're all cute, So that was yeah,
and then you're exper tims. Well yet chimps suck. I'm gonna say it
is a penguin. Penguin? Oh no, though, I mean, how
many people are around penguins to get attacked by them? You know, at
least one? Well probably if they do get attacked and killed, they're not
around to tell it. Let it seal. Uh no, but it is
an animal in the water. I'll give you that orka close. You're send
me that picture of your eye, your mom's orca close card. That's just
sending yeah, my mom, who's super against orca's but also sends me orca
related things. Bottlenose dolphins. Yes, hell, yes, we're talking dolphins
people. Okay, so here's the thing. Let's get that right all the
way. No, they don't trust me. No trust me. I looked
it up because I knew you were gonna mention it. They don't. There's
no proof of that happening. Do they hump people sometimes? Yes? But
what are we talking about? What you said was different from what I said.
Okay, so there's no insertion, but there's nothing the act of trying
to fornicate with him. Now, not even two minutes in and we're talking
to genteration. This is where we're at. Great, my mom listens to
this every time. Okay, other, Nick, would you like to say
anything else to her mom specifically? Oh no, I'm just more shocked that
dolphins are. I just always picture them as gentle, majestic. They will
pull you into the water and drown their ass okay, Well, first of
all, what is a dolphin mammal? Solid? Step one? Yeah,
so as long as you know they're not a fish, that's fine. So
because they're mammals, they obviously need to what uh fuck pretty smolk? Yes?
Well, ire there, thank you? Yes, got there eventfully.
Really, yes, they do breathe oxygen. That's why they have the lovels.
Oh so even blow the suck I did? What do you mean?
Didn't say anything? They blow and they suck in air? What do you
mean? All right? So, because dolphins a ball from land mammals,
which obviously we have our legs under our bodies, dolphins move their tails up
and down where are side to side? Which I didn't realize. Oh it's
really cool. Are there no fish like golf? And done? As far
as I know, I'm not a fish expert, but that's what a dolphin
resource told me. Yes, that's what I'm going with. They're also warm
blooded and they need blubber to keep warm, so that's fish fat. That
is fish fat, mammal fat. Okay, do I blubber? Yes,
Jesus. And like you said, they give Brits alive y off, and
they also feed them milk we got forty nine dolphins and porpoise species, which
are grouped into six different families. What's a porpoise, oh man, I
mean like it's a mammal. Yep. I don't know how to yeah,
I don't know how to really describe it. So porpoises are smaller than dolphins,
are chunkier, and have different head and teeth shapes in little or no
beekh and the beak on the dolphins just like they're rossom so like they're snoot.
I love that you're looking up pictures of dolphins right now. They're cute.
They are cute. See I was not wrong at all. Okay,
hang on, I'm getting ahead of myself. I was gonna say the cutes
dolphin, but it's gonna be think one. That's a good one. Pink.
I forget what it's called, but little baby. It's like baby like
sized and pink. You heard that other names the Amazon I heard a pink
dolphin. Amazon River dolphins. O me, Wow, you're killing it an
animal podcast. No prep. So Oceanic dolphins are the biggest family, with
thirty eight members. There are seven porpoises, which, like I said,
are just smaller dolphins and have different shaped bodies. And then there's four river
dolphins, one of which is what you just said, the Amazon river dolphin,
which is pink and cool. What is the biggest dolphin? Oh?
Orcle whale? Yes? Oh my god, you were killing it. Are
you googling these things? No? No, I just said the battle of
those dolphin thing popped up on wow. Wow? Okay did you know that?
Uh? Now, this is all news to me. Orcle whales or
dolphins orcle whales are dolphins? I don't know why do you know? What
do you mean? Why? Why are the dolphins and not whales. He's
got a good point, because they evolved with dolphins. Okay, that's it.
That's it. Yeah. I mean like I feel like if you look
at a dolphin, a killer whale, and then like a blue whale,
they look more like dolphins than whales. They certainly, do you know what
I mean? Yeah? But if you look at like a blugo as a
bluega whale whale or is that it's a whale, yeah, although I guess
killer whale. Yeah, it's very confusing. I don't know why they did
that. That's that's why I have to kill whales. So they're like killer
whale. Yeah, it's possible. I've seen those in person wheels where there's
an aquarium Mystic Connecticut. Oh, I have heard that one. Super cool.
I know, I'd love to see believe on the song. That's all.
Why is it bad if it's raining there in the water, Well,
I mean it's bad. It's good for them, but it's bad for you.
Okay, that's fair. So orcas or killer whales can weig up to
twenty two thousand pounds or ten thousand kilograms and can be this was shocking over
thirty two feet long or ninety meters long. Yeah, there's some big boys.
That's big whale. Yeah, and they hunt in a pack. That's
so the thing about Okay, if you haven't listened to this before my mom,
I don't remember that episode where we've mentioned it, but my mom is
very against orcas. She's very anti orca. Like literally, the last time
I saw her, she was like, you can't trust them. They're gonna
learn to walk on land and take over everything, and like they've never killed
a person in the wild, So I don't know where that fear comes from.
But she also was saying that dolphins are shifty and I was like,
what they looked into it more And she's not entirely wrong. I do agree
that they're all shifty, but like, I wouldn't be afraid of them necessarily.
I mean I'd be pretty afraid if they grew legs and yeah they well
didn't they grow legs or then they lose their legs and go into the water.
Yeah, so why would they come back? Also, land sucks and
are ruining it. That's true, but we're also ruining the ocean. So
like probat faster in the land. Yeah, good times. Ocean is big
though, it's pretty big, and they can But orcas are cool because they
specialize, like depending on the pods, they can specialize in different things.
Like so the orc is off of like the coast of California. I think
mostly eat well, I guess, like I said, there's different pods but
eat like salmon. And then there's some that specifically eat seals. So yeah,
there's none that specifically eat people. I was gonna ask for that,
No, there's not. Okay, what is the small as dolphin Amazon river
dolphin? No, a small phin? It is it does have a small
phin. Yeah, it's also the most endangered dolphin. Tell you, okay,
it's called the WIKITAA. We have never never you want to look it
up? So it's v A Q. Okay, you are going way too
past, not even on Google yet. I said three letters, VQ,
Q U I T A. That's what I popped up out free agent.
Okay, google hert Oh that looks freaky. What do you mean they're so
cute? They have no nose? Well, yeah, I told you they're
a porpoise. It's like an alien. Yeah, road, they're so cute.
I mean they are objectively cute in the way that like a baby human
is cute, where they're gross. What's oh my god? But I agree,
Yes, they're cute. Okay, well, I guess cute is subjective.
But they're only one point five meters long or five feet and around one
hundred and twenty pounds. That's still very large. It's like a me sized
whale or a me sized dolphin. I guess that's still like shorter than me,
which is weird. I probably signific really stronger, oh easily. However,
there are only ten individuals left, no shit, and they all live
in the Gulf of California in Mexico. No shit. Which is like a
it's now a reserve to obviously like try to preserve them, and there's like
good ish news that has come out recently, but they actually have retained enough
genetic resiliency that they won't die from inbreeding if they are allowed to keep living
and people don't keep messing them up. Are there any like in captivity?
No, there's just the ten in the wild. So they actually tried to
capture a bunch. There was a in twenty seventeen. There was a multimillion
dollar project called Vakita CPR, and they were trying to capture half of the
remaining ones to keep them in captivity. But two females they caught showed obvious
signs of stress, so they released them because they were like, if these
two die, shit were screwed. Yeah, So it's very hard to capture
dolphins and like not stress them out. So if you were to give a
dolphins CPR, you have to go to the ball hole, right, you
have to. I don't think so. I don't know, Well if there's
ever been a situation where someone's had to give a dolph in CPR. Also,
you can just pump the heart. Why do you have to blow on
it. I thought, now you didn't have to do mouth to mouth.
I know, every time I did my ce press rocasion, it was like
more and more chest compressions per breath. Yeah, but they were still doing
breaths last time I took it. Oh. I think last time they were
like, eh, it's if you want, if you don't. But now
they have like the whole like bag get to put over everything, like in
the Yeah, the ad kit, it comes with a little baggy to put
over their mouth. It's weird. Yeah, if the person's having a heart
attacker, really don't care about catching their mouth URMs. Yeah, I'll also
ride the cooties. Yeah. So anyways, the reason that bikitas are so
endangered is because of gillnets. People were leaving out and they were getting cotton.
So it's just like a nun that you put in the water. Because
people were trying to catch a fish called the totoo ba. It's to to
a ba toto toto abba, toto abba. See That's what I'm saying.
Yeah, So anyways, people specifically try to catch this fish for their swim
bladders, which is used in traditional Chinese medicine. The Chinese are always taking
fish. Well, I mean it's people taking fish. How are the Chinese?
I have a question, how the fuck is Chinese traditional medicine using a
fish from the Gulf of California, Mexico. What's traditional about this? Specifically
this wind bladder, like no other part of it. Just Win Blatter,
what's about that? I have no idea. I have no idea. So
that's like literally the reason that bikitas are so endangered. So if you see
a wikita trapped in a net or someone using a gill net in the protected
area that they're in, call the Noah Fisheries Enforcement hotline. I'm gonna put
there's a bunch of phone numbers in this episode, so I'm gonna put them
on the description. It's eight hundred and eighty five three one, nine six
four. So if you go there, remember look out, watch out for
watch out for dolphins. Fucking let's let's get into the attack bit of this.
We're doing exact last time, do we? In our elephant episode?
No, we kind of just talked about like in people, I mean,
in general people being messed up by elephants. Yeah, Okay. August twenty
nineteen, Janet and Steve Furree boy, I'm already far farira, fererra,
fererra. You know what I think it's fererra. Oh boy. Anyways,
if that's the most stuff one we have, we're in good change. It's
not, we're fought. Janet and Steve had spent months planning their special fortieth
anniversary trip, which was a cruise the Caribbean. Okay, wait, first
of all, do you guys say Caribbean or Caribbean? Depends on what I'm
talking about. If it's Pirates of the Caribbean and the Caribbean, it's Caribbean.
I'm going to the Caribbean. Yeah, okay, so weird. So
they were. They booked a cruise the Caribbean Islands in Mexican and Mexico.
Janet was a first grade teacher and both were grandparents, and they were from
a kushnit mass I don't know it, but Acushion. It's Massachusetts, so
it's probably like am or something stupid. Yeah, it's like sounds nothing like
how it's spelled exactly. So they booked this cruise through Royal Caribbean for their
whole family, kids and grandkids involved, and they spared no expense. They
had a bunch of excursions planned along the way, one of which was an
experience simming with dolphins in Cosmel. That sounds really cool. It must have
a really good time, right Yeah. If I'm talking about that with this
episode, is that everything went great without a hitch. So this so they
booked this dolphins to make experience. They booked this dolphins too make experience,
which costs hundreds of dollars for all of them. And I looked up a
few places that have like dolphins who make experiences, and for adults it's always
over one hundred dollars and kids just below that. Would either of you ever
take a child to swim with the dolphin period? Yeah? I would?
Why? I mean, like this episode, but thank you other Nick for
you intelligent. All right. So Jane was in the water waiting for two
dolphins to come up behind her to give her a quote a dolphin toe,
which I think means like they come up on either side and like she grabs
their fins and they just like, I think, you grab their dorsal fin
and you ride with them. Oh ma, that's probably better. Yeah yeah,
yeah, swim with them. I guess I don't know. Anyways,
one of the dolphins decided nah, and rammed into her lower back. For
context, bottom, those dolphins can be six to thirteen feet long and way
between three hundred to fourteen hundred pounds. Yeah, they're they're kind of tanky.
There's a mass Y're good. They're pretty tanky, gym. It ain't
no. Wikita hit her in the back. A few seconds after the first
hit. A second hit came, and she claimed it felt like quote David
Ortiz specifically hitting her in the back with a baseball bat. I love people.
I lovest people so much. That just makes that's incredible, she says,
David Ortiz, like she's encountered him before and like accidentally been into some
kind of Yeah, She's like, this ain't nothing. So she said,
if she got hit again, she felt that she would legitimately die in front
of her three grandkids. That'd be bad. The dolphin hit her again,
Oh no, yeah, Okay, well we're hearing her takes a good news.
So she's getting attacked, yes, current the dolphins ramming into her bad
right now? So it rammed into her three times before a trainer came and
pulled Janet out of the water and she was taken to a local hospital.
And had a broken spine and ribs. Oh Man. Her family is trying
their best to get her flown back to Boston because the hospital staff spoke Spanish
because they were in Cosmo, and Janet and her family did not speak Spanish,
so explain the situation and pain was very difficult. Like, I'm sure
not many people are, like, hey, I got attacked by a dolphin.
Help. Did we talk about this in one of the bonus episodes?
No, this specific We talked about this attack at some point, are you
You? And I spoke about it very briefly because my mom sends okay,
oh, this this is one. Yeah, my mom gets attacked in the
news all the time and sends them to me. It is the only email
she sends me, and they're always upsetting. Oh, like recently, I
guess just this is the best place to talk about it. Interrupt this story?
Uh, the who was just killed in the Allstone by the bison?
Yeah? Nick, Nick? Have you heard about this? No? But
I like the bison joke, Like, what did the buffalo say it was
son leaving on the school bus? On the fact that no one made that
joke after a Bison episode was really upsetting. I was really waiting for it.
But anyways, also because like the son in that episode got attacked,
so I was like waiting for someone to be like by it was. It
was gonna be insensitive. It's why I didn't say, we don't do that
here. No, So tell you more about the idiot that got attacked.
Yeah, she killed. Well, yeah, this is why I don't feel
bad like she was. I shouldn't say I don't feel bad. I don't
feel bad. I just don't. She walked up to a buffalo and it
gored her and a few days later she died. Like that's it. She
got within ten feet of it to take pictures of it, and it was
like nah, and I just feel like you should try a little harder to
be alive. Yeah. No, I was in the exact spot, like
a little harder. Yeah, the trail that they were on when she got
sacked. I'd taken that trail when I was really Yeah, when I was
on a yellowstone, So I do know, like I might know the exact
spot. It was the bridge, and I really yep, because I've told
you before, like almost the same story, like people was walking to a
buffal at the end of a little bridge, it's like, what are you
doing? What? What the fuck are you doing? So is it a
situation where she could have like stumbled upon it or it's like a pretty open
area. Uh, there are some tighter corners, but if it's right after
a bridge, because that's what the story said, right like they were crossing
a bridge and that's where the bison was. You see it over on the
other side of the bridge, Like you shouldn't cross that fucking thing. It's
that that's simple in my head. Yeah, So Yellowstone Park posted on their
Instagram page. I'm sure they posted on their other pages as well, but
they made a statement three days ago from now it's June fourth, a twenty
five year old female from Grove City, Iaho, approached a bison within ten
feet in the morning of May thirtieth, twenty twenty two. Two other individuals
were within twenty five yards of the same bison, and park regulations require visitors
to remain more than twenty five yards or twenty three meters away from the bison.
As the vice and walk near a boardwalk at the Black Sand Basin just
north of Old Faithful, The female on the boardwalk approached it. Consequently,
the bison Gordon. The woman had tossed her ten feet in the year,
so she got a puncture wound and other injuries and days later didn't make it
as far as I know. So the rest of the post is just them
saying like this was the first incident in twenty twenty two, but bison caused
more injuries to people and Yellstone than any other animal, and they can run
three times faster than people. So that's why I don't find out. I
don't feel bad. It's hard for it, especially we talk about it so
much. It's it's just I mean, you could feel bad about it,
but at the end of the day, it was kind of her fault for
approaching a buffalo. Yeah, they're so big. It's bigger than a fucking
cat. Like, I don't want to go. I don't want to be
near cows. They're massive. I almost hit a cow on my way home
a few weeks ago. Did I tell you about this. No. It
was a loose cow and it was like a bowl, and I was like,
I can't drive through that and if I hit it, my car's wrecked.
Yeah, and you're probably dead. Yeah, but luckily it's stop.
Okay, dated Okay, So that was nice. Anyways, back to this,
back to Janet in the hospital and Cosmel after she got attacked in twenty
Dolphins. So she laid in the hospital that for two days with no treatment.
It's then they don't they didn't know what to do. I guess stables.
How did no one speak English and Spanish? Okay? But like that,
like yes, that, but also there's no interpreter services. Do you
even need the interpreter? Like if you're a doctor, who the fuck cares
with the lane? Yeahine, like yeah, Like I mean the doctors just
be like, all right, well here are the extras. Everything's wrong with
you, let's start fixing it. That's really true, but I'm assuming cares.
Probably the language barrier was probably having to do, like with getting her
consent to be treated and everything. I can say see enough to be like
yes, but fucking stab me with that knife and that ship. People can
be in pain all they want to. I'll sign whatever. Fun all right.
So it was two days before she could be transported back to Boston,
so she ended up suing Dolphin Discovery, Cosamel and Royal Caribbean. And Royal
Caribbean was like yeah, sweet, don't care, No comment, and in
response, the Dolphin Discovery Center said, for over twenty seven years they've been
open, they've treated their guests quote or sorry quote, they've treated their guests,
workers and animals with the utmost respect, which I'm like, I mean,
I don't blame the place for this, Like you, I don't think
you should have dolphins that people swim with at all. That's fair, but
you shouldn't sign up for it. Then if you're not going to take the
risk of being hit in the back by a dolphin, don't. Don't only
the dolphins. One just refresher how old are these people in Janet and her
husband were grandparents, so like sixties, fifties, sixties, yeah, yeah,
So I don't know why I feel the need to add this, but
it was in the article, so I was like, you know what,
I'll mention it. So, according to the CDC, one in five Americans
are injured on vacation, and insurance doesn't cover injuries you sustain while on vacation
out of the US, so they recommend travel insurance. If for some reason,
after this episode, you're like, I'm still gonna swim with dolphins,
because it gets worse from here. Janet had to quit her teaching job because
the permanent damage to her spine, and it took a month before she could
stand again. Oooh wow. And she said, if she ever goes to
an island again, quote, there will be no excursions of any kind,
which I think it's very sad. Yeah, very don't waste the money going
to the island. Then I just don't swim with dolphins, is how I
feel, because Okay. Miami Seaquarium April of this year, twenty twenty two.
Gosh, A trainer was in the middle of the Miami Seaquarium's Dolphin Flipper
show when one of the dolphins attacked her, and it was caught on video.
It was watch it, you can if you want. I don't have
it. No, don't look at it. No, wait, wait till
after God. It was ten minutes into the show when people watching realized that
what was happening was not part of the show because it looked like underwater the
dolphin was ramming into the trainer. There was a theme here dolphins ramming into
people. So the trainer starts splashing and calling for help. Another worker on
a paddle board swam over and try to lead the other trainer back to the
dock, but the dolphin kept slamming into the trainer a few times before she
reached it. Miami Dade Fire Rescue were responded to the scene as the trainer
was able to reach the dock and our injuries have not been released to the
public because this has happened like two months ago. And Miami Seaquarium claims that
the trainer accidentally hit the dolphin named sun Dance, which I think is Oh,
that was my dog's name when I was a kid. Oh yeah,
I was wondering why that's tony familiar. That's so funny. And they claim
that because the trainer may have hit the dolphin by accident, that's why the
dolphins respond responded aggressively. You smack me, You're dead. Yeah. So
similar to roadside zoos and sanctuaries, which we're going to have a whole other
series about. The USDA's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service has jurisdiction over these
swim with dolphin experiences. So the reason so many animal welfare groups are opposed
to captive dolphins. Why I'm opposed to swimming with dolphins, Nick, is
because they can swim up to one hundred miles in a day and dive several
hundred hundred hunting, Oh my god, the Boston, the Boston, and
dive several hundred feet underwater. So even when they're sleeping, they're still swimming,
and over their lifetime, they only spend like ten to twenty percent of
their life life at the surface, So it's like impossible to give them an
enclosure that would be sufficient to the wild. Yeah. Yeah, there are
also some I don't even know if I want to call them programs that offer
quote dolphin assisted therapy for children with Down syndrome, cerebral palsy, autism,
had spinal injuries, and more, despite the zero amount of evidence that this
is more useful compared to like a dog or a cat. It's a lot
more memorable, though for who for the kid? Is it? Absolutely?
It is. I just feel like the risk of your child that already has
like cerebral palsy or some other like cognitive thing interacting with a fourteen hundred pound
animal in that animal's element and not your child's. I agree, But like
they have like the same things for horses where kids go on with these horseback
riding excursions. Yeah, I'm more scarable horseman'm a dolphin? Are you sure?
I am sure? I am a sure sure horse and dolphins, But
like, that's because we're around horses way more. There's more chances to be
attacked by a horse and a dolphin because you're not always swimming with a dolphin
every time you go in the water. I've never ridden a horse, but
I'd rather, you know, take a dolphin ride before a horse ride.
I feel like, I feel like the point of this episode is being lost
on you. No, I understand, But where do we draw the line
of what's acceptable what's not here? Like, yeah, I mean we're sort
of saying dolphins aren't allowed, but we canna have any other fish you want
an aquarium, Like, why can't we have those fish and aquarians but not
dolphins because you're not swimming with the other fish. Sure, anymore? Every
time I go into the ocean, I'm swimming fish in the ocean. Every
Yeah, every single time. If I go swimming in like a pod or
something of this fishing, they're like, other, do you see where I'm
coming from? No, Okay, I'm lost. Well, because we're in
the ocean. They have the whole ocean. Yes, when you're in a
tank with a dolphin, they cannot get away from you. You have two
dogs in your house, like an attacker any moment, and a cat like
attackero any moment. They're domescaated. I mean, why why can't we domesticate
dolphins of them? Oh my god, I don't want so. I'm just
saying, where do we draw them? Like there is a line to be
drawn somewhere. But if we're just gonna say dolphins aren't alloted, okay,
what else is in the line all aquariums, dolphins are the equivalent of like
monkeys, but of the sea in terms of intelligence and danger, I disagree.
Okay, yeah, just because I don't want champs. Just to be
very clear, Yeah, but I mean dolphins are also equally intelligent and can
also be incredibly aggressive. And you're in the water where you're not more comfortable
than a dolphin. You're right, You're right. I still think there's a
line that if we're gonna be drawing these lines and we never forgot where.
I'm not saying that no dolphin should be in captivity, because I think it
could be useful sometimes, Like if the dolphin has injuries or whatever, it
can't be in the wild for whatever reason. I'm just saying, I don't
think you should swim with them. So we can't ride horses, then what
is happening. It's the same thing. You're an animal like, Yeah,
but horses are way different than like grabbing onto a dolphin in the water.
Yes, because they're a much stronger and much taller, much bigger. They're
more dangerous. They're significantly more dangerous than a dolphin. I think it's very
horses are domesticated. It takes a long long time for that to happen.
You're a slap in a dolphin, I do. I don't think that.
I only think they're taking a dolphins in the wild, and it's like,
oh, go right, I actually absolutely, I think horses are more domesticated
than dolphins are. But also I've never seen a wild horse in my life,
so they are they're very brutal. No, But so in one of
the articles I was reading, it was specifically the Humane Society dot org,
they were saying that in the US, yes, maybe they're dolphins who were
either bred or have been in captivity, but in other places like Mexico or
Brazil, they're I don't know why. I some Brazil specifically, but like
outside there are wild dolphins that were captured and brought in four taurus things.
Yeah. So that being said from the Humane Society dot org, and I
want to say take it with a grain of salt because they're like an animal
advocacy group and to me they're like a step below PEDA. But I think
they raise some good points. They're saying in some facilities, pregnant female dolphins
have been overworked. They're contained in small pools and outside the not regulated,
so they could be in whatever and they can be fed whatever. There were
several attractions in tropical resorts around the world that had incidences of wild dolphins hurting
people. So in the Bahamas there were two facilities. The Dolphin Quest facility
in Tahiti originally held two wild caught rough toothed dolphins, which are deep water
dolphins in a shallow lagoon. They captured them from the wild. That sucks.
Yeah, And there was a facility in La Pause, Mexico. They
were the focus of extraordinary controversy because they captured eight dolphins in December of two
thousand off of Baja and one dolphin died in a few weeks and then It
was closed a few years later when four more of the dolphin died. Four
more of the dolphins died during a hurricane. Shit, because like that too.
If you're an aza zoo, you have emergency plans in place, but
these places don't. So and they were saying, like, the US doesn't
have great dolphin like swimming facilities, but they might be a little better.
Like there's a few in Florida that have sea pens, so it's like a
pen that's still in the ocean. Their dolphins are just like stuck in one
party. Yeah, so it's still like fenced off, but they can I
swim in actual yeah. One. And then SeaWorld has like concrete tanks.
How do you feel about SeaWorld O them? Why? No, I don't
like things being in those concrete tanks. I don't thinks to be run around
free. I am getting many mixed messages from this, No, because like
I want everything to be out. I don't want zoos. I don't want
fucking aquariums and narrating. I don't. But if there already exists, then
where do we draw the line of what cannon can't be in there? So
you're saying that people should swim with dolphins. I mean, if it's available,
why wouldn't I. I don't even know where SeaWorld is Florida. There's
man, okay, it's where Nick almost died from Mosquitos. True, yeah,
bad days five. I'm just so shocked that you're not. I really
thought you were gonna like, go, oh my god. I can't believe
these people simove dolphins because I'd below to go swim with the dolphins. I
can't. I can't judge that. I don't think I would. Personally.
Anything from the ocean scares me. I think it's bad. It's bad.
It is bad. I think you It's just it sucks. It's like any
sort of fucking circus annimal that you're forcing to perform. It's like, I
mean, Sea World forces their animals perform. Why is this no different?
I don't know. It's just I can do it, that's why, because
I can be involved in it. Okay, So now let's get to the
most recent thing. In the summer of two thousand, Texas, off of
North Padre Island, wildlife officials got reports of a lone male dolphin hanging around
the waters adjacent to a neighborhood where locals were swimming with penning and feeding the
dolphin. Do you either of you know why this is especially bad? Uh?
They are conditioning it to be around humans. Well, yes, yeah,
that's a good point. They probably don't even know what the fuck a
dolphin eats, Like, what do you feed a dolphin? Right? No?
Do you get out here? Yeah? I have some. Well there's
another case I think I can get to after this. So they were trying
to feed it. My point was they're protected under the Marine Mammals Protection Act.
Oh, so you can't. It's like they birds, yes, but
mammals in the ocean. So they were also posting the interactions to social media
and encouraging other people to seek out dolphin. And the dolphin remained in the
area for all twenty twenty one and this year the situation has got much worse,
as recently as Memorial Day weekend in twenty twenty two. So like what
two weekends ago? Right? Yeah, last weekend? Weekend, last weekend.
Yeah, the lone dolphin has been showing more aggressive behavior and has been
separating children from their parents in the ocean and what has been separating pets from
their owners, and it has the dolphin itself has numerous injuries from boats getting
too close to it. Yeah, but it's also seeking out people. So
this is from the Fisheries Dot Noah, which is NAA dot gov. So
also Noah is I think we've talked about no one before the National Oceanic and
at home on National Oceanic and at Oh my god, why is it so
hard Atmospheric admin? I have applied to many jobs, Noah, have you
really I have said to swim with dolphins? You fuck? I wish so
I get paid for that. So they're saying, avoid seeking out with the
dolphin. Leave it alone for your own safety and for the dolphins safety.
And if it comes close to your boat, the best thing to do is
to avoid stopping, because I think that's where the injuries can happen to the
dolphin. Slowly move away and maintain your course and your speed, and keep
your hands and feet inside of the boat. Do not try to touch it,
and it will eventually leave. And if you are swimming near this dolphin,
or swimming and the dolphin appears, get out as fast as you can.
And they said it seems friendly, but obviously it is a wild animal
and has unpredictable behavior and might try to drown you like those children, and
which my mom sent this to me and I was like, well, it
hasn't drowned anybody yet, that's the wrong to do it. Yeah. So
in this article, they're also saying that research has shown that there's four stages
of a loan dolphin becoming too sociable and condition to people. Stage one,
dolphin shows up in the area and follows people but doesn't approach them. Stage
two, the dolphin starts to follow boats and people, and people start to
feed, play, swim with, or otherwise interact with the dolphin. Stage
three, the dolphins familiar with people, has lost its natural wariness to people
and boats and allows the interactions to happen. And Stage four, which is
a stage that this dolphin is now in. It becomes a tourist attraction with
people coming to see and inappropriately interacting with it, and it can cause the
dolphin to show dangerous behaviors towards people, including dominant and aggressive behaviors. So
law enforcement is trying to do what they can to protect this dolphin, and
Noah is asking once again, if you see any violations, especially with this
dolphin, report it to their enforcement hotline, which is eight hundred and eighty
five three one nine sixty four. And if you violate this, like by
interacting with the dolphin trying to feed it, you could be fined up to
one hundred thousand dollars in face one year in jail. Yeah, I'm assuming
they have like fishing game around where this dolphin is. Yeah, they've increased
patrols to try to make it better, but it's still pretty terrible. Yeah.
So I was like, man, I wonder if a dolphins ever killed
somebody or if like this has ever happened before, like a dolphin trying to
like separate people. And I found a dolphin called Teo sure t i a
with a squiggly Oh yes, t O your part of Fanish I was helping.
You'd like pick up on it. Isn't that Spanish for unklin? Yes
it's yes, it's but it has an A in it too in the language
just TiO is it? Yes? Okay, that's when it's to okay tire
cruise. Oh maybe it is. Anyways, So he was a also solitary
mill dolphin, and he was spotted around the town of Sao Sebastio. I
think sure in Brazil in nineteen ninety four, and that's why the named him
too, because it's the end of Sebastio, so similar thing. People were
interacting with him, and he also, for some reason, which I think
I know the reason, had a preference of interacting with female humans. I
mean I said it earlier, so you're yelled at me for there's no evidence.
So the dolphin started to receive public attention in March in nineteen ninety four
when he started to visit Pierre almost daily, following boats stuff like that.
He quickly became a popular and over thirty people at a time would be in
the water with him, like trying to hold them. People were trying to
restrain him, to take pictures of him, stick ice cream cones in his
blowhole, and also tried to pour beer in his mouth. Okay, now,
no, no, was getting wrong with these people. I know that's
their Americans on vacation. Fact, Like, you're just trying to fucking swim
with dolphins because you think you can't. I'm not trying, POI think that's
war right unless so by November of nineteen ninety four, he had sent twenty
eight people to the hospital. They just let this thing roll. In December
of nineteen ninety four, two male swimmers, Wilson Reyese Pedroso and Joao Paulo
Moraria. You're all lost too. So they were harassing this dolphin t o
and trying to restrain him. The dolphin broke the ribs of Wilson Podroso and
killed the other guy. No shit, yep, he killed show out.
Yep. It doesn't specifically say how it exactly happened, but I'm sure like,
if you're in the ocean and dolphin breaks your ribs, you're kind of
fucked. Yeah. After this incident, he the dolphin returned to the beach
in January of nineteen einety five, and the government officials in the area were
like, okay, time to set up a public education campaign to stop people
from fucking with this dolphin. And he the dolphins stuck around for a few
more months, but then finally left, and most people assumed that he rejoined
a pod of dolphins so he like didn't need the people anymore. But some
people think he might have been killed out of revenge. So there's really no
more information on that. Let's hope he got away and just lived out his
days happy without actual too. I hope so too to bang the Brazilian woman.
There's no evidence. Yes, dolphins have humped people, but they haven't.
There's been no penetration. Thank you, You're welcome. I know you
didn't want to say it. I didn't you, but here we are.
So that was it. And I'm still shocked that you think something the dolphins
is a good idea. I don't think it's a good idea. I'm saying
I would do it, Okay, I'm not gonna lie about it. I
appreciate that you're not lying about it. I just wish that you'd change your
opinion. And that's that's it. I will do my best to avoid any
dolphin interactions for the rest of my life. I do promise you that I
think you've done a good job so far. I will not go out of
my way to interact with the dolphin. So even if I was like,
oh my god, think let's go someone with the dolphin, you'd be like
you no, well, yeah, because I know it's gonna be a trap.
You're right, But if you want vacation by yourself without me, I'd
be very sad if I just want a vacation along, So I don't plan
on doing that. Okay, well that's various. But if Nick and I
go on vacation, he's like, hey, man goes with dolphins, you
would never get you never get out of me. So anyone ever offers I
know it's a trap. I'm just gonna say no, Okay, I think
yeah, I think that's a good this is a good compromise here. Yes,
okay, that makes me happier than you just saying that you should do
it. Oh no, no, no, no, you should not do
it. But I would do it. I would never. I wouldn't either.
I just although I will say there was a girl that the three of
us went to high school with who got proposed to with a dolphin. Like
the dolphin was holding do you guys remember this? Oh yeah I do know.
Yeah, And the dolphin was holding a movie that said will you marry
me? That's really cute? Yeah, but also like I was like,
that's a little wicky. Anyways, I like it. So yeah, that's
it. That's all I had about dolphins. And uh, yeah, suppose
I do die. Yeah, And allegedly, according to that article, I
was just reading about that death. The guy that died was drunk but like,
I feel like you kind of have to be to be holding down a
wild dolphin. But that's just me. Well, too bad. Don't swim.
Don't drink and swim. Yeah, wait, at least thirty minutes.
Don't drink and swim with dolphins specifically. Yeah wait, wait, wait thirty
minutes before you drinking, swim with dolphins or just don't or just don't that's
the better option. Yes, And if for some reason you see a injured
or dead mammal they want you to call. This number confuses me, but
it is the number that was the snow Noah's website. Eight seven seven Whale
help Like w h A L E H E L P numbers. That's a
lot of numbers. It's a lot of numbers. Yeah, can't pass word
nine numbers you right, let's right calling it. Thank you for calling the
Southeast Region Marine Mammal and see turtle hot one. Oh my god, please
do not attend to return stranded animals to the water. To report and entangled
whale. Press one to report all other injured or dead marine mammals. Press
two to report a lord whales side such as right hump back or brude as
well. Three to report an injured or dead sea turtle or no, thank
you. That was very nice to me to say the very nice to robot.
That's good to know what that works. Yeah, so that one knows
that we have tested them and they work. And if you see a dead
thing, yeah, column calm let them know you're not in the southeast region,
call them anyway, because they're probably able to get you in a connection
with anyone you need to get. Oh, that's a really good point.
Good for you. Yeah. Any closing thoughts on dolphins, anybody or anything
else. Ocean scares me. Man. The Russian military tried to train them
to defuse bombs in the Ukraine. I do work. No, No,
I did not. There's also a really messed up story I was reading in
preparation for this episode of a case in the nineteen sixties of the CIA using
LSD to see what does dolphins, and the dolphins tried to fuck the the
trainer and she had to get to hand job that one. I hate that
you knew exactly what I was talking about, the fact that he knows the
most messed up parts of my stories. I hate it. At one point
in your life, did you say I'm going to research this right now.
It's about fourteen. I think, wow, this episode truly took a turn
too a few turns. Penetration was mentioned at least twice too many times.
Stop mentioning it all right, I think we should just just close it up
and I just that's it. I'm done. I'm not gonna mention it anymore.
Thank you, I don't believe you anyways. Thanks for listening to episode
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