1 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,839 Hey everyone, Before we get into today's episode, I just want to throw 2 00:00:18,839 --> 00:00:22,920 in a quick warning. We recorded this episode in person with our other friend 3 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,079 Nick, and in doing that, we ended up sacrificing the audio a little 4 00:00:27,079 --> 00:00:30,519 bit. So sometimes there's a crackling sound and it might sound a little more 5 00:00:30,559 --> 00:00:33,000 echoee than normal, and that's because we were just in a room, chit 6 00:00:33,079 --> 00:00:36,200 chatting, hanging out as friends. So this is a great episode if you're 7 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:40,399 someone who likes to just listen to friends talk and have a good time and 8 00:00:40,439 --> 00:00:43,920 act like you're in the room with us. But if this is your first 9 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,560 episode of Get It Alive, maybe pick a different one that has better quality 10 00:00:48,039 --> 00:00:52,119 so you know that they don't all sound like this. That being said, 11 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,479 you can still listen. It's still great information, but the audio is definitely 12 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:00,159 not the best. We are not professionals by any means. We just do 13 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,960 this because we love it and we love putting it out there for all of 14 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,799 you. So with that, please enjoy our episode about dolphins. Welcome to 15 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:12,599 episode twenty eight of Get Out a Live podcasts where me your host Ashley every 16 00:01:12,599 --> 00:01:17,040 other week tells you to do animal attack story, and other host Nick is 17 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,319 here with my roommate and very good friend Nick. Hey, everybody, that's 18 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,959 Nick. Wow. That was such a cop out for not saying like, 19 00:01:25,079 --> 00:01:27,480 I'm your other host, Nick, and I am here all right. Yeah, 20 00:01:27,519 --> 00:01:30,640 so we are recording at my apartment right now with the three of us, 21 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:36,359 and I was trying to get stuff ready and was not prepared for what 22 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,840 were you getting ready the audio? Oh yeah, that's true. Sorry, 23 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,799 yeah, I was like, you've done no preparation. We tested it for 24 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,560 like ten minutes. I think that's exaggerating. Anyways, something it is, 25 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,359 all right, whatever, okay, not that you know what we're talking about 26 00:01:49,359 --> 00:01:52,959 today? No, nope, no, great, Okay, any guesses this 27 00:01:53,079 --> 00:01:57,319 is the thing I mentioned to you very recently. Oh boy, you mentioned 28 00:01:57,359 --> 00:01:59,799 a lot of animals. To be fair, I do well. I asked 29 00:01:59,799 --> 00:02:01,280 if is cute? You said they're all cute, So that was yeah, 30 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,799 and then you're exper tims. Well yet chimps suck. I'm gonna say it 31 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,520 is a penguin. Penguin? Oh no, though, I mean, how 32 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,879 many people are around penguins to get attacked by them? You know, at 33 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,280 least one? Well probably if they do get attacked and killed, they're not 34 00:02:16,319 --> 00:02:20,120 around to tell it. Let it seal. Uh no, but it is 35 00:02:20,159 --> 00:02:23,080 an animal in the water. I'll give you that orka close. You're send 36 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,159 me that picture of your eye, your mom's orca close card. That's just 37 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,680 sending yeah, my mom, who's super against orca's but also sends me orca 38 00:02:30,759 --> 00:02:35,039 related things. Bottlenose dolphins. Yes, hell, yes, we're talking dolphins 39 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,400 people. Okay, so here's the thing. Let's get that right all the 40 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:43,039 way. No, they don't trust me. No trust me. I looked 41 00:02:43,039 --> 00:02:45,120 it up because I knew you were gonna mention it. They don't. There's 42 00:02:45,199 --> 00:02:49,560 no proof of that happening. Do they hump people sometimes? Yes? But 43 00:02:49,879 --> 00:02:53,159 what are we talking about? What you said was different from what I said. 44 00:02:53,199 --> 00:02:55,759 Okay, so there's no insertion, but there's nothing the act of trying 45 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,840 to fornicate with him. Now, not even two minutes in and we're talking 46 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,840 to genteration. This is where we're at. Great, my mom listens to 47 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:07,960 this every time. Okay, other, Nick, would you like to say 48 00:03:07,039 --> 00:03:10,680 anything else to her mom specifically? Oh no, I'm just more shocked that 49 00:03:12,039 --> 00:03:16,080 dolphins are. I just always picture them as gentle, majestic. They will 50 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:21,159 pull you into the water and drown their ass okay, Well, first of 51 00:03:21,159 --> 00:03:24,479 all, what is a dolphin mammal? Solid? Step one? Yeah, 52 00:03:24,599 --> 00:03:28,960 so as long as you know they're not a fish, that's fine. So 53 00:03:29,199 --> 00:03:32,800 because they're mammals, they obviously need to what uh fuck pretty smolk? Yes? 54 00:03:34,199 --> 00:03:37,800 Well, ire there, thank you? Yes, got there eventfully. 55 00:03:38,199 --> 00:03:40,719 Really, yes, they do breathe oxygen. That's why they have the lovels. 56 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:47,039 Oh so even blow the suck I did? What do you mean? 57 00:03:47,159 --> 00:03:51,360 Didn't say anything? They blow and they suck in air? What do you 58 00:03:51,479 --> 00:03:53,800 mean? All right? So, because dolphins a ball from land mammals, 59 00:03:54,039 --> 00:03:59,080 which obviously we have our legs under our bodies, dolphins move their tails up 60 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,159 and down where are side to side? Which I didn't realize. Oh it's 61 00:04:01,199 --> 00:04:03,719 really cool. Are there no fish like golf? And done? As far 62 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,520 as I know, I'm not a fish expert, but that's what a dolphin 63 00:04:06,599 --> 00:04:10,960 resource told me. Yes, that's what I'm going with. They're also warm 64 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,840 blooded and they need blubber to keep warm, so that's fish fat. That 65 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,439 is fish fat, mammal fat. Okay, do I blubber? Yes, 66 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:23,360 Jesus. And like you said, they give Brits alive y off, and 67 00:04:23,399 --> 00:04:27,920 they also feed them milk we got forty nine dolphins and porpoise species, which 68 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:31,000 are grouped into six different families. What's a porpoise, oh man, I 69 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:35,120 mean like it's a mammal. Yep. I don't know how to yeah, 70 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:40,279 I don't know how to really describe it. So porpoises are smaller than dolphins, 71 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,959 are chunkier, and have different head and teeth shapes in little or no 72 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,319 beekh and the beak on the dolphins just like they're rossom so like they're snoot. 73 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,920 I love that you're looking up pictures of dolphins right now. They're cute. 74 00:04:51,079 --> 00:04:55,680 They are cute. See I was not wrong at all. Okay, 75 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,759 hang on, I'm getting ahead of myself. I was gonna say the cutes 76 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,079 dolphin, but it's gonna be think one. That's a good one. Pink. 77 00:05:01,199 --> 00:05:04,360 I forget what it's called, but little baby. It's like baby like 78 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:09,639 sized and pink. You heard that other names the Amazon I heard a pink 79 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,519 dolphin. Amazon River dolphins. O me, Wow, you're killing it an 80 00:05:13,519 --> 00:05:16,439 animal podcast. No prep. So Oceanic dolphins are the biggest family, with 81 00:05:16,519 --> 00:05:19,360 thirty eight members. There are seven porpoises, which, like I said, 82 00:05:19,399 --> 00:05:23,920 are just smaller dolphins and have different shaped bodies. And then there's four river 83 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,639 dolphins, one of which is what you just said, the Amazon river dolphin, 84 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,360 which is pink and cool. What is the biggest dolphin? Oh? 85 00:05:30,639 --> 00:05:33,480 Orcle whale? Yes? Oh my god, you were killing it. Are 86 00:05:33,519 --> 00:05:35,839 you googling these things? No? No, I just said the battle of 87 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:40,560 those dolphin thing popped up on wow. Wow? Okay did you know that? 88 00:05:40,759 --> 00:05:43,759 Uh? Now, this is all news to me. Orcle whales or 89 00:05:43,759 --> 00:05:46,639 dolphins orcle whales are dolphins? I don't know why do you know? What 90 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,879 do you mean? Why? Why are the dolphins and not whales. He's 91 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:53,639 got a good point, because they evolved with dolphins. Okay, that's it. 92 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,480 That's it. Yeah. I mean like I feel like if you look 93 00:05:56,519 --> 00:05:59,879 at a dolphin, a killer whale, and then like a blue whale, 94 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,360 they look more like dolphins than whales. They certainly, do you know what 95 00:06:02,399 --> 00:06:04,639 I mean? Yeah? But if you look at like a blugo as a 96 00:06:04,639 --> 00:06:09,720 bluega whale whale or is that it's a whale, yeah, although I guess 97 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:11,720 killer whale. Yeah, it's very confusing. I don't know why they did 98 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,720 that. That's that's why I have to kill whales. So they're like killer 99 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,399 whale. Yeah, it's possible. I've seen those in person wheels where there's 100 00:06:19,399 --> 00:06:23,839 an aquarium Mystic Connecticut. Oh, I have heard that one. Super cool. 101 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,720 I know, I'd love to see believe on the song. That's all. 102 00:06:27,519 --> 00:06:29,480 Why is it bad if it's raining there in the water, Well, 103 00:06:29,519 --> 00:06:30,759 I mean it's bad. It's good for them, but it's bad for you. 104 00:06:30,879 --> 00:06:34,519 Okay, that's fair. So orcas or killer whales can weig up to 105 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:41,759 twenty two thousand pounds or ten thousand kilograms and can be this was shocking over 106 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:46,240 thirty two feet long or ninety meters long. Yeah, there's some big boys. 107 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,480 That's big whale. Yeah, and they hunt in a pack. That's 108 00:06:49,079 --> 00:06:53,319 so the thing about Okay, if you haven't listened to this before my mom, 109 00:06:53,759 --> 00:06:56,079 I don't remember that episode where we've mentioned it, but my mom is 110 00:06:56,319 --> 00:07:00,839 very against orcas. She's very anti orca. Like literally, the last time 111 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:01,920 I saw her, she was like, you can't trust them. They're gonna 112 00:07:01,959 --> 00:07:05,879 learn to walk on land and take over everything, and like they've never killed 113 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,360 a person in the wild, So I don't know where that fear comes from. 114 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,040 But she also was saying that dolphins are shifty and I was like, 115 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,040 what they looked into it more And she's not entirely wrong. I do agree 116 00:07:15,079 --> 00:07:17,040 that they're all shifty, but like, I wouldn't be afraid of them necessarily. 117 00:07:17,279 --> 00:07:21,360 I mean I'd be pretty afraid if they grew legs and yeah they well 118 00:07:21,439 --> 00:07:25,319 didn't they grow legs or then they lose their legs and go into the water. 119 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,639 Yeah, so why would they come back? Also, land sucks and 120 00:07:28,959 --> 00:07:30,079 are ruining it. That's true, but we're also ruining the ocean. So 121 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,759 like probat faster in the land. Yeah, good times. Ocean is big 122 00:07:33,839 --> 00:07:40,120 though, it's pretty big, and they can But orcas are cool because they 123 00:07:40,199 --> 00:07:43,279 specialize, like depending on the pods, they can specialize in different things. 124 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,800 Like so the orc is off of like the coast of California. I think 125 00:07:46,959 --> 00:07:49,160 mostly eat well, I guess, like I said, there's different pods but 126 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:54,480 eat like salmon. And then there's some that specifically eat seals. So yeah, 127 00:07:54,879 --> 00:07:57,720 there's none that specifically eat people. I was gonna ask for that, 128 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:01,279 No, there's not. Okay, what is the small as dolphin Amazon river 129 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:05,800 dolphin? No, a small phin? It is it does have a small 130 00:08:05,879 --> 00:08:11,040 phin. Yeah, it's also the most endangered dolphin. Tell you, okay, 131 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,920 it's called the WIKITAA. We have never never you want to look it 132 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,839 up? So it's v A Q. Okay, you are going way too 133 00:08:16,879 --> 00:08:22,160 past, not even on Google yet. I said three letters, VQ, 134 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,759 Q U I T A. That's what I popped up out free agent. 135 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,920 Okay, google hert Oh that looks freaky. What do you mean they're so 136 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,039 cute? They have no nose? Well, yeah, I told you they're 137 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:37,559 a porpoise. It's like an alien. Yeah, road, they're so cute. 138 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,840 I mean they are objectively cute in the way that like a baby human 139 00:08:41,919 --> 00:08:43,919 is cute, where they're gross. What's oh my god? But I agree, 140 00:08:45,039 --> 00:08:46,759 Yes, they're cute. Okay, well, I guess cute is subjective. 141 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,919 But they're only one point five meters long or five feet and around one 142 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,559 hundred and twenty pounds. That's still very large. It's like a me sized 143 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,519 whale or a me sized dolphin. I guess that's still like shorter than me, 144 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,240 which is weird. I probably signific really stronger, oh easily. However, 145 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,480 there are only ten individuals left, no shit, and they all live 146 00:09:05,519 --> 00:09:07,799 in the Gulf of California in Mexico. No shit. Which is like a 147 00:09:09,279 --> 00:09:13,720 it's now a reserve to obviously like try to preserve them, and there's like 148 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:16,720 good ish news that has come out recently, but they actually have retained enough 149 00:09:16,879 --> 00:09:20,919 genetic resiliency that they won't die from inbreeding if they are allowed to keep living 150 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,879 and people don't keep messing them up. Are there any like in captivity? 151 00:09:24,399 --> 00:09:28,000 No, there's just the ten in the wild. So they actually tried to 152 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:33,039 capture a bunch. There was a in twenty seventeen. There was a multimillion 153 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:37,519 dollar project called Vakita CPR, and they were trying to capture half of the 154 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,720 remaining ones to keep them in captivity. But two females they caught showed obvious 155 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:45,240 signs of stress, so they released them because they were like, if these 156 00:09:45,279 --> 00:09:48,080 two die, shit were screwed. Yeah, So it's very hard to capture 157 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,679 dolphins and like not stress them out. So if you were to give a 158 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:54,600 dolphins CPR, you have to go to the ball hole, right, you 159 00:09:54,799 --> 00:10:00,759 have to. I don't think so. I don't know, Well if there's 160 00:10:00,799 --> 00:10:03,919 ever been a situation where someone's had to give a dolph in CPR. Also, 161 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,960 you can just pump the heart. Why do you have to blow on 162 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,679 it. I thought, now you didn't have to do mouth to mouth. 163 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,360 I know, every time I did my ce press rocasion, it was like 164 00:10:11,519 --> 00:10:13,639 more and more chest compressions per breath. Yeah, but they were still doing 165 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,080 breaths last time I took it. Oh. I think last time they were 166 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,559 like, eh, it's if you want, if you don't. But now 167 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,799 they have like the whole like bag get to put over everything, like in 168 00:10:20,879 --> 00:10:24,480 the Yeah, the ad kit, it comes with a little baggy to put 169 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,919 over their mouth. It's weird. Yeah, if the person's having a heart 170 00:10:26,919 --> 00:10:30,600 attacker, really don't care about catching their mouth URMs. Yeah, I'll also 171 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,399 ride the cooties. Yeah. So anyways, the reason that bikitas are so 172 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:37,279 endangered is because of gillnets. People were leaving out and they were getting cotton. 173 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,879 So it's just like a nun that you put in the water. Because 174 00:10:39,879 --> 00:10:45,120 people were trying to catch a fish called the totoo ba. It's to to 175 00:10:45,759 --> 00:10:52,360 a ba toto toto abba, toto abba. See That's what I'm saying. 176 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,240 Yeah, So anyways, people specifically try to catch this fish for their swim 177 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:01,600 bladders, which is used in traditional Chinese medicine. The Chinese are always taking 178 00:11:01,639 --> 00:11:05,200 fish. Well, I mean it's people taking fish. How are the Chinese? 179 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:09,960 I have a question, how the fuck is Chinese traditional medicine using a 180 00:11:09,039 --> 00:11:13,279 fish from the Gulf of California, Mexico. What's traditional about this? Specifically 181 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,320 this wind bladder, like no other part of it. Just Win Blatter, 182 00:11:16,399 --> 00:11:18,440 what's about that? I have no idea. I have no idea. So 183 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,039 that's like literally the reason that bikitas are so endangered. So if you see 184 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:26,200 a wikita trapped in a net or someone using a gill net in the protected 185 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,200 area that they're in, call the Noah Fisheries Enforcement hotline. I'm gonna put 186 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:31,879 there's a bunch of phone numbers in this episode, so I'm gonna put them 187 00:11:31,919 --> 00:11:35,480 on the description. It's eight hundred and eighty five three one, nine six 188 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:41,480 four. So if you go there, remember look out, watch out for 189 00:11:41,519 --> 00:11:46,600 watch out for dolphins. Fucking let's let's get into the attack bit of this. 190 00:11:46,919 --> 00:11:50,840 We're doing exact last time, do we? In our elephant episode? 191 00:11:50,879 --> 00:11:52,000 No, we kind of just talked about like in people, I mean, 192 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:56,399 in general people being messed up by elephants. Yeah, Okay. August twenty 193 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:03,720 nineteen, Janet and Steve Furree boy, I'm already far farira, fererra, 194 00:12:05,039 --> 00:12:11,320 fererra. You know what I think it's fererra. Oh boy. Anyways, 195 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,480 if that's the most stuff one we have, we're in good change. It's 196 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:18,559 not, we're fought. Janet and Steve had spent months planning their special fortieth 197 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,600 anniversary trip, which was a cruise the Caribbean. Okay, wait, first 198 00:12:22,639 --> 00:12:24,440 of all, do you guys say Caribbean or Caribbean? Depends on what I'm 199 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:31,200 talking about. If it's Pirates of the Caribbean and the Caribbean, it's Caribbean. 200 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,639 I'm going to the Caribbean. Yeah, okay, so weird. So 201 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,200 they were. They booked a cruise the Caribbean Islands in Mexican and Mexico. 202 00:12:37,759 --> 00:12:41,720 Janet was a first grade teacher and both were grandparents, and they were from 203 00:12:41,039 --> 00:12:46,159 a kushnit mass I don't know it, but Acushion. It's Massachusetts, so 204 00:12:46,159 --> 00:12:52,399 it's probably like am or something stupid. Yeah, it's like sounds nothing like 205 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:56,639 how it's spelled exactly. So they booked this cruise through Royal Caribbean for their 206 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,840 whole family, kids and grandkids involved, and they spared no expense. They 207 00:13:00,879 --> 00:13:03,080 had a bunch of excursions planned along the way, one of which was an 208 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,840 experience simming with dolphins in Cosmel. That sounds really cool. It must have 209 00:13:07,919 --> 00:13:09,360 a really good time, right Yeah. If I'm talking about that with this 210 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:18,080 episode, is that everything went great without a hitch. So this so they 211 00:13:18,159 --> 00:13:22,679 booked this dolphins to make experience. They booked this dolphins too make experience, 212 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,360 which costs hundreds of dollars for all of them. And I looked up a 213 00:13:26,399 --> 00:13:30,600 few places that have like dolphins who make experiences, and for adults it's always 214 00:13:30,639 --> 00:13:33,519 over one hundred dollars and kids just below that. Would either of you ever 215 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:37,440 take a child to swim with the dolphin period? Yeah? I would? 216 00:13:37,919 --> 00:13:41,279 Why? I mean, like this episode, but thank you other Nick for 217 00:13:41,399 --> 00:13:46,679 you intelligent. All right. So Jane was in the water waiting for two 218 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,039 dolphins to come up behind her to give her a quote a dolphin toe, 219 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,240 which I think means like they come up on either side and like she grabs 220 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,279 their fins and they just like, I think, you grab their dorsal fin 221 00:13:56,399 --> 00:13:58,840 and you ride with them. Oh ma, that's probably better. Yeah yeah, 222 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,360 yeah, swim with them. I guess I don't know. Anyways, 223 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:09,080 one of the dolphins decided nah, and rammed into her lower back. For 224 00:14:09,279 --> 00:14:15,440 context, bottom, those dolphins can be six to thirteen feet long and way 225 00:14:15,519 --> 00:14:20,600 between three hundred to fourteen hundred pounds. Yeah, they're they're kind of tanky. 226 00:14:20,799 --> 00:14:24,159 There's a mass Y're good. They're pretty tanky, gym. It ain't 227 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,120 no. Wikita hit her in the back. A few seconds after the first 228 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:31,240 hit. A second hit came, and she claimed it felt like quote David 229 00:14:31,399 --> 00:14:35,759 Ortiz specifically hitting her in the back with a baseball bat. I love people. 230 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:39,919 I lovest people so much. That just makes that's incredible, she says, 231 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:46,240 David Ortiz, like she's encountered him before and like accidentally been into some 232 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:52,519 kind of Yeah, She's like, this ain't nothing. So she said, 233 00:14:52,559 --> 00:14:54,559 if she got hit again, she felt that she would legitimately die in front 234 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,159 of her three grandkids. That'd be bad. The dolphin hit her again, 235 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:03,080 Oh no, yeah, Okay, well we're hearing her takes a good news. 236 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,600 So she's getting attacked, yes, current the dolphins ramming into her bad 237 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,759 right now? So it rammed into her three times before a trainer came and 238 00:15:09,799 --> 00:15:13,519 pulled Janet out of the water and she was taken to a local hospital. 239 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:18,679 And had a broken spine and ribs. Oh Man. Her family is trying 240 00:15:18,679 --> 00:15:22,240 their best to get her flown back to Boston because the hospital staff spoke Spanish 241 00:15:22,399 --> 00:15:24,960 because they were in Cosmo, and Janet and her family did not speak Spanish, 242 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,720 so explain the situation and pain was very difficult. Like, I'm sure 243 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,559 not many people are, like, hey, I got attacked by a dolphin. 244 00:15:33,279 --> 00:15:35,080 Help. Did we talk about this in one of the bonus episodes? 245 00:15:37,039 --> 00:15:41,000 No, this specific We talked about this attack at some point, are you 246 00:15:41,159 --> 00:15:45,399 You? And I spoke about it very briefly because my mom sends okay, 247 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,559 oh, this this is one. Yeah, my mom gets attacked in the 248 00:15:48,639 --> 00:15:52,080 news all the time and sends them to me. It is the only email 249 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,639 she sends me, and they're always upsetting. Oh, like recently, I 250 00:15:54,679 --> 00:15:58,320 guess just this is the best place to talk about it. Interrupt this story? 251 00:15:58,759 --> 00:16:00,720 Uh, the who was just killed in the Allstone by the bison? 252 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:04,879 Yeah? Nick, Nick? Have you heard about this? No? But 253 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,399 I like the bison joke, Like, what did the buffalo say it was 254 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:12,399 son leaving on the school bus? On the fact that no one made that 255 00:16:12,519 --> 00:16:15,559 joke after a Bison episode was really upsetting. I was really waiting for it. 256 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,720 But anyways, also because like the son in that episode got attacked, 257 00:16:19,799 --> 00:16:25,639 so I was like waiting for someone to be like by it was. It 258 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:26,759 was gonna be insensitive. It's why I didn't say, we don't do that 259 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,279 here. No, So tell you more about the idiot that got attacked. 260 00:16:30,919 --> 00:16:34,000 Yeah, she killed. Well, yeah, this is why I don't feel 261 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:38,360 bad like she was. I shouldn't say I don't feel bad. I don't 262 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,960 feel bad. I just don't. She walked up to a buffalo and it 263 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,279 gored her and a few days later she died. Like that's it. She 264 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,799 got within ten feet of it to take pictures of it, and it was 265 00:16:48,879 --> 00:16:52,600 like nah, and I just feel like you should try a little harder to 266 00:16:52,639 --> 00:16:56,759 be alive. Yeah. No, I was in the exact spot, like 267 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,159 a little harder. Yeah, the trail that they were on when she got 268 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,480 sacked. I'd taken that trail when I was really Yeah, when I was 269 00:17:02,519 --> 00:17:04,039 on a yellowstone, So I do know, like I might know the exact 270 00:17:04,039 --> 00:17:07,640 spot. It was the bridge, and I really yep, because I've told 271 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,680 you before, like almost the same story, like people was walking to a 272 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:11,920 buffal at the end of a little bridge, it's like, what are you 273 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,279 doing? What? What the fuck are you doing? So is it a 274 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:18,799 situation where she could have like stumbled upon it or it's like a pretty open 275 00:17:18,839 --> 00:17:22,079 area. Uh, there are some tighter corners, but if it's right after 276 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,359 a bridge, because that's what the story said, right like they were crossing 277 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,039 a bridge and that's where the bison was. You see it over on the 278 00:17:27,039 --> 00:17:30,759 other side of the bridge, Like you shouldn't cross that fucking thing. It's 279 00:17:30,839 --> 00:17:33,839 that that's simple in my head. Yeah, So Yellowstone Park posted on their 280 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,480 Instagram page. I'm sure they posted on their other pages as well, but 281 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,960 they made a statement three days ago from now it's June fourth, a twenty 282 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,440 five year old female from Grove City, Iaho, approached a bison within ten 283 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,799 feet in the morning of May thirtieth, twenty twenty two. Two other individuals 284 00:17:48,839 --> 00:17:53,960 were within twenty five yards of the same bison, and park regulations require visitors 285 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,799 to remain more than twenty five yards or twenty three meters away from the bison. 286 00:17:59,519 --> 00:18:02,480 As the vice and walk near a boardwalk at the Black Sand Basin just 287 00:18:02,599 --> 00:18:07,440 north of Old Faithful, The female on the boardwalk approached it. Consequently, 288 00:18:07,559 --> 00:18:08,680 the bison Gordon. The woman had tossed her ten feet in the year, 289 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:14,119 so she got a puncture wound and other injuries and days later didn't make it 290 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:17,599 as far as I know. So the rest of the post is just them 291 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:22,440 saying like this was the first incident in twenty twenty two, but bison caused 292 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,839 more injuries to people and Yellstone than any other animal, and they can run 293 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,680 three times faster than people. So that's why I don't find out. I 294 00:18:29,759 --> 00:18:32,920 don't feel bad. It's hard for it, especially we talk about it so 295 00:18:33,079 --> 00:18:37,160 much. It's it's just I mean, you could feel bad about it, 296 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:40,079 but at the end of the day, it was kind of her fault for 297 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:44,119 approaching a buffalo. Yeah, they're so big. It's bigger than a fucking 298 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,720 cat. Like, I don't want to go. I don't want to be 299 00:18:45,839 --> 00:18:48,000 near cows. They're massive. I almost hit a cow on my way home 300 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:49,920 a few weeks ago. Did I tell you about this. No. It 301 00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:52,640 was a loose cow and it was like a bowl, and I was like, 302 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,400 I can't drive through that and if I hit it, my car's wrecked. 303 00:18:56,559 --> 00:19:00,279 Yeah, and you're probably dead. Yeah, but luckily it's stop. 304 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:03,359 Okay, dated Okay, So that was nice. Anyways, back to this, 305 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:06,920 back to Janet in the hospital and Cosmel after she got attacked in twenty 306 00:19:07,279 --> 00:19:11,319 Dolphins. So she laid in the hospital that for two days with no treatment. 307 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,559 It's then they don't they didn't know what to do. I guess stables. 308 00:19:17,039 --> 00:19:18,599 How did no one speak English and Spanish? Okay? But like that, 309 00:19:18,799 --> 00:19:25,440 like yes, that, but also there's no interpreter services. Do you 310 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,319 even need the interpreter? Like if you're a doctor, who the fuck cares 311 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,480 with the lane? Yeahine, like yeah, Like I mean the doctors just 312 00:19:30,559 --> 00:19:33,039 be like, all right, well here are the extras. Everything's wrong with 313 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:37,640 you, let's start fixing it. That's really true, but I'm assuming cares. 314 00:19:37,839 --> 00:19:41,000 Probably the language barrier was probably having to do, like with getting her 315 00:19:41,079 --> 00:19:44,680 consent to be treated and everything. I can say see enough to be like 316 00:19:44,799 --> 00:19:48,039 yes, but fucking stab me with that knife and that ship. People can 317 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,880 be in pain all they want to. I'll sign whatever. Fun all right. 318 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,640 So it was two days before she could be transported back to Boston, 319 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:00,839 so she ended up suing Dolphin Discovery, Cosamel and Royal Caribbean. And Royal 320 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:06,039 Caribbean was like yeah, sweet, don't care, No comment, and in 321 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:10,160 response, the Dolphin Discovery Center said, for over twenty seven years they've been 322 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:14,480 open, they've treated their guests quote or sorry quote, they've treated their guests, 323 00:20:14,519 --> 00:20:18,880 workers and animals with the utmost respect, which I'm like, I mean, 324 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,799 I don't blame the place for this, Like you, I don't think 325 00:20:21,839 --> 00:20:25,160 you should have dolphins that people swim with at all. That's fair, but 326 00:20:25,559 --> 00:20:26,839 you shouldn't sign up for it. Then if you're not going to take the 327 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,519 risk of being hit in the back by a dolphin, don't. Don't only 328 00:20:30,559 --> 00:20:33,319 the dolphins. One just refresher how old are these people in Janet and her 329 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,880 husband were grandparents, so like sixties, fifties, sixties, yeah, yeah, 330 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,160 So I don't know why I feel the need to add this, but 331 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:42,720 it was in the article, so I was like, you know what, 332 00:20:42,759 --> 00:20:45,559 I'll mention it. So, according to the CDC, one in five Americans 333 00:20:45,559 --> 00:20:49,680 are injured on vacation, and insurance doesn't cover injuries you sustain while on vacation 334 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,440 out of the US, so they recommend travel insurance. If for some reason, 335 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,599 after this episode, you're like, I'm still gonna swim with dolphins, 336 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,279 because it gets worse from here. Janet had to quit her teaching job because 337 00:21:00,279 --> 00:21:03,240 the permanent damage to her spine, and it took a month before she could 338 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,079 stand again. Oooh wow. And she said, if she ever goes to 339 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,440 an island again, quote, there will be no excursions of any kind, 340 00:21:08,559 --> 00:21:11,480 which I think it's very sad. Yeah, very don't waste the money going 341 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,519 to the island. Then I just don't swim with dolphins, is how I 342 00:21:15,599 --> 00:21:21,119 feel, because Okay. Miami Seaquarium April of this year, twenty twenty two. 343 00:21:21,519 --> 00:21:26,359 Gosh, A trainer was in the middle of the Miami Seaquarium's Dolphin Flipper 344 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,039 show when one of the dolphins attacked her, and it was caught on video. 345 00:21:30,319 --> 00:21:33,240 It was watch it, you can if you want. I don't have 346 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:34,839 it. No, don't look at it. No, wait, wait till 347 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:40,119 after God. It was ten minutes into the show when people watching realized that 348 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,960 what was happening was not part of the show because it looked like underwater the 349 00:21:44,039 --> 00:21:48,039 dolphin was ramming into the trainer. There was a theme here dolphins ramming into 350 00:21:48,079 --> 00:21:51,400 people. So the trainer starts splashing and calling for help. Another worker on 351 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,240 a paddle board swam over and try to lead the other trainer back to the 352 00:21:53,319 --> 00:21:57,039 dock, but the dolphin kept slamming into the trainer a few times before she 353 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,319 reached it. Miami Dade Fire Rescue were responded to the scene as the trainer 354 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,799 was able to reach the dock and our injuries have not been released to the 355 00:22:03,799 --> 00:22:07,319 public because this has happened like two months ago. And Miami Seaquarium claims that 356 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,480 the trainer accidentally hit the dolphin named sun Dance, which I think is Oh, 357 00:22:10,599 --> 00:22:11,599 that was my dog's name when I was a kid. Oh yeah, 358 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,240 I was wondering why that's tony familiar. That's so funny. And they claim 359 00:22:15,319 --> 00:22:18,720 that because the trainer may have hit the dolphin by accident, that's why the 360 00:22:18,759 --> 00:22:23,799 dolphins respond responded aggressively. You smack me, You're dead. Yeah. So 361 00:22:25,079 --> 00:22:27,559 similar to roadside zoos and sanctuaries, which we're going to have a whole other 362 00:22:27,839 --> 00:22:33,839 series about. The USDA's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service has jurisdiction over these 363 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,680 swim with dolphin experiences. So the reason so many animal welfare groups are opposed 364 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,799 to captive dolphins. Why I'm opposed to swimming with dolphins, Nick, is 365 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,599 because they can swim up to one hundred miles in a day and dive several 366 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:51,000 hundred hundred hunting, Oh my god, the Boston, the Boston, and 367 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:56,000 dive several hundred feet underwater. So even when they're sleeping, they're still swimming, 368 00:22:56,079 --> 00:22:59,680 and over their lifetime, they only spend like ten to twenty percent of 369 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:03,319 their life life at the surface, So it's like impossible to give them an 370 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:08,119 enclosure that would be sufficient to the wild. Yeah. Yeah, there are 371 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:11,400 also some I don't even know if I want to call them programs that offer 372 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:18,960 quote dolphin assisted therapy for children with Down syndrome, cerebral palsy, autism, 373 00:23:18,319 --> 00:23:23,200 had spinal injuries, and more, despite the zero amount of evidence that this 374 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,440 is more useful compared to like a dog or a cat. It's a lot 375 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:32,519 more memorable, though for who for the kid? Is it? Absolutely? 376 00:23:32,599 --> 00:23:37,440 It is. I just feel like the risk of your child that already has 377 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:45,559 like cerebral palsy or some other like cognitive thing interacting with a fourteen hundred pound 378 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,440 animal in that animal's element and not your child's. I agree, But like 379 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,640 they have like the same things for horses where kids go on with these horseback 380 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:57,440 riding excursions. Yeah, I'm more scarable horseman'm a dolphin? Are you sure? 381 00:23:57,759 --> 00:24:00,680 I am sure? I am a sure sure horse and dolphins, But 382 00:24:00,839 --> 00:24:06,000 like, that's because we're around horses way more. There's more chances to be 383 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,400 attacked by a horse and a dolphin because you're not always swimming with a dolphin 384 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,240 every time you go in the water. I've never ridden a horse, but 385 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,279 I'd rather, you know, take a dolphin ride before a horse ride. 386 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:17,720 I feel like, I feel like the point of this episode is being lost 387 00:24:17,839 --> 00:24:21,119 on you. No, I understand, But where do we draw the line 388 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,559 of what's acceptable what's not here? Like, yeah, I mean we're sort 389 00:24:23,559 --> 00:24:26,720 of saying dolphins aren't allowed, but we canna have any other fish you want 390 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,319 an aquarium, Like, why can't we have those fish and aquarians but not 391 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,160 dolphins because you're not swimming with the other fish. Sure, anymore? Every 392 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,079 time I go into the ocean, I'm swimming fish in the ocean. Every 393 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,359 Yeah, every single time. If I go swimming in like a pod or 394 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,039 something of this fishing, they're like, other, do you see where I'm 395 00:24:40,039 --> 00:24:44,160 coming from? No, Okay, I'm lost. Well, because we're in 396 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,319 the ocean. They have the whole ocean. Yes, when you're in a 397 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,359 tank with a dolphin, they cannot get away from you. You have two 398 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,759 dogs in your house, like an attacker any moment, and a cat like 399 00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:56,240 attackero any moment. They're domescaated. I mean, why why can't we domesticate 400 00:24:56,279 --> 00:24:59,079 dolphins of them? Oh my god, I don't want so. I'm just 401 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,599 saying, where do we draw them? Like there is a line to be 402 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,599 drawn somewhere. But if we're just gonna say dolphins aren't alloted, okay, 403 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:08,079 what else is in the line all aquariums, dolphins are the equivalent of like 404 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,319 monkeys, but of the sea in terms of intelligence and danger, I disagree. 405 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,880 Okay, yeah, just because I don't want champs. Just to be 406 00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:18,400 very clear, Yeah, but I mean dolphins are also equally intelligent and can 407 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,920 also be incredibly aggressive. And you're in the water where you're not more comfortable 408 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,319 than a dolphin. You're right, You're right. I still think there's a 409 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:26,759 line that if we're gonna be drawing these lines and we never forgot where. 410 00:25:26,839 --> 00:25:30,079 I'm not saying that no dolphin should be in captivity, because I think it 411 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,880 could be useful sometimes, Like if the dolphin has injuries or whatever, it 412 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:34,960 can't be in the wild for whatever reason. I'm just saying, I don't 413 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,559 think you should swim with them. So we can't ride horses, then what 414 00:25:37,839 --> 00:25:41,559 is happening. It's the same thing. You're an animal like, Yeah, 415 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:45,839 but horses are way different than like grabbing onto a dolphin in the water. 416 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,000 Yes, because they're a much stronger and much taller, much bigger. They're 417 00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:53,599 more dangerous. They're significantly more dangerous than a dolphin. I think it's very 418 00:25:53,839 --> 00:25:59,440 horses are domesticated. It takes a long long time for that to happen. 419 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,839 You're a slap in a dolphin, I do. I don't think that. 420 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:03,960 I only think they're taking a dolphins in the wild, and it's like, 421 00:26:04,039 --> 00:26:08,119 oh, go right, I actually absolutely, I think horses are more domesticated 422 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,640 than dolphins are. But also I've never seen a wild horse in my life, 423 00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:17,359 so they are they're very brutal. No, But so in one of 424 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,880 the articles I was reading, it was specifically the Humane Society dot org, 425 00:26:21,519 --> 00:26:25,440 they were saying that in the US, yes, maybe they're dolphins who were 426 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,000 either bred or have been in captivity, but in other places like Mexico or 427 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,519 Brazil, they're I don't know why. I some Brazil specifically, but like 428 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,720 outside there are wild dolphins that were captured and brought in four taurus things. 429 00:26:38,799 --> 00:26:45,319 Yeah. So that being said from the Humane Society dot org, and I 430 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,240 want to say take it with a grain of salt because they're like an animal 431 00:26:48,279 --> 00:26:52,200 advocacy group and to me they're like a step below PEDA. But I think 432 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,839 they raise some good points. They're saying in some facilities, pregnant female dolphins 433 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,240 have been overworked. They're contained in small pools and outside the not regulated, 434 00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:04,880 so they could be in whatever and they can be fed whatever. There were 435 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:11,400 several attractions in tropical resorts around the world that had incidences of wild dolphins hurting 436 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,039 people. So in the Bahamas there were two facilities. The Dolphin Quest facility 437 00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:22,000 in Tahiti originally held two wild caught rough toothed dolphins, which are deep water 438 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,240 dolphins in a shallow lagoon. They captured them from the wild. That sucks. 439 00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:30,880 Yeah, And there was a facility in La Pause, Mexico. They 440 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,640 were the focus of extraordinary controversy because they captured eight dolphins in December of two 441 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:40,119 thousand off of Baja and one dolphin died in a few weeks and then It 442 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,359 was closed a few years later when four more of the dolphin died. Four 443 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:47,119 more of the dolphins died during a hurricane. Shit, because like that too. 444 00:27:47,839 --> 00:27:51,559 If you're an aza zoo, you have emergency plans in place, but 445 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:56,119 these places don't. So and they were saying, like, the US doesn't 446 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:00,119 have great dolphin like swimming facilities, but they might be a little better. 447 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,680 Like there's a few in Florida that have sea pens, so it's like a 448 00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:07,559 pen that's still in the ocean. Their dolphins are just like stuck in one 449 00:28:07,599 --> 00:28:11,519 party. Yeah, so it's still like fenced off, but they can I 450 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,440 swim in actual yeah. One. And then SeaWorld has like concrete tanks. 451 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,720 How do you feel about SeaWorld O them? Why? No, I don't 452 00:28:18,759 --> 00:28:21,640 like things being in those concrete tanks. I don't thinks to be run around 453 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,359 free. I am getting many mixed messages from this, No, because like 454 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,720 I want everything to be out. I don't want zoos. I don't want 455 00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:30,799 fucking aquariums and narrating. I don't. But if there already exists, then 456 00:28:30,839 --> 00:28:32,960 where do we draw the line of what cannon can't be in there? So 457 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,759 you're saying that people should swim with dolphins. I mean, if it's available, 458 00:28:34,759 --> 00:28:40,039 why wouldn't I. I don't even know where SeaWorld is Florida. There's 459 00:28:40,079 --> 00:28:45,480 man, okay, it's where Nick almost died from Mosquitos. True, yeah, 460 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,519 bad days five. I'm just so shocked that you're not. I really 461 00:28:48,519 --> 00:28:51,279 thought you were gonna like, go, oh my god. I can't believe 462 00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:52,599 these people simove dolphins because I'd below to go swim with the dolphins. I 463 00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:56,279 can't. I can't judge that. I don't think I would. Personally. 464 00:28:56,519 --> 00:28:59,599 Anything from the ocean scares me. I think it's bad. It's bad. 465 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,039 It is bad. I think you It's just it sucks. It's like any 466 00:29:03,319 --> 00:29:07,440 sort of fucking circus annimal that you're forcing to perform. It's like, I 467 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,720 mean, Sea World forces their animals perform. Why is this no different? 468 00:29:11,519 --> 00:29:14,160 I don't know. It's just I can do it, that's why, because 469 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:19,240 I can be involved in it. Okay, So now let's get to the 470 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,599 most recent thing. In the summer of two thousand, Texas, off of 471 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:29,480 North Padre Island, wildlife officials got reports of a lone male dolphin hanging around 472 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,839 the waters adjacent to a neighborhood where locals were swimming with penning and feeding the 473 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,200 dolphin. Do you either of you know why this is especially bad? Uh? 474 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,359 They are conditioning it to be around humans. Well, yes, yeah, 475 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,480 that's a good point. They probably don't even know what the fuck a 476 00:29:44,519 --> 00:29:47,559 dolphin eats, Like, what do you feed a dolphin? Right? No? 477 00:29:47,759 --> 00:29:52,519 Do you get out here? Yeah? I have some. Well there's 478 00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:56,319 another case I think I can get to after this. So they were trying 479 00:29:56,319 --> 00:30:00,880 to feed it. My point was they're protected under the Marine Mammals Protection Act. 480 00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:04,960 Oh, so you can't. It's like they birds, yes, but 481 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:11,039 mammals in the ocean. So they were also posting the interactions to social media 482 00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:14,440 and encouraging other people to seek out dolphin. And the dolphin remained in the 483 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,039 area for all twenty twenty one and this year the situation has got much worse, 484 00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:22,079 as recently as Memorial Day weekend in twenty twenty two. So like what 485 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,480 two weekends ago? Right? Yeah, last weekend? Weekend, last weekend. 486 00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:30,279 Yeah, the lone dolphin has been showing more aggressive behavior and has been 487 00:30:30,359 --> 00:30:36,680 separating children from their parents in the ocean and what has been separating pets from 488 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,759 their owners, and it has the dolphin itself has numerous injuries from boats getting 489 00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:44,640 too close to it. Yeah, but it's also seeking out people. So 490 00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:48,680 this is from the Fisheries Dot Noah, which is NAA dot gov. So 491 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,839 also Noah is I think we've talked about no one before the National Oceanic and 492 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,359 at home on National Oceanic and at Oh my god, why is it so 493 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:02,759 hard Atmospheric admin? I have applied to many jobs, Noah, have you 494 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,440 really I have said to swim with dolphins? You fuck? I wish so 495 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:11,759 I get paid for that. So they're saying, avoid seeking out with the 496 00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:15,000 dolphin. Leave it alone for your own safety and for the dolphins safety. 497 00:31:15,319 --> 00:31:17,839 And if it comes close to your boat, the best thing to do is 498 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,200 to avoid stopping, because I think that's where the injuries can happen to the 499 00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:25,039 dolphin. Slowly move away and maintain your course and your speed, and keep 500 00:31:25,079 --> 00:31:27,279 your hands and feet inside of the boat. Do not try to touch it, 501 00:31:27,359 --> 00:31:30,839 and it will eventually leave. And if you are swimming near this dolphin, 502 00:31:32,039 --> 00:31:34,200 or swimming and the dolphin appears, get out as fast as you can. 503 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,720 And they said it seems friendly, but obviously it is a wild animal 504 00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:44,359 and has unpredictable behavior and might try to drown you like those children, and 505 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,480 which my mom sent this to me and I was like, well, it 506 00:31:47,559 --> 00:31:52,359 hasn't drowned anybody yet, that's the wrong to do it. Yeah. So 507 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,279 in this article, they're also saying that research has shown that there's four stages 508 00:31:57,359 --> 00:32:01,000 of a loan dolphin becoming too sociable and condition to people. Stage one, 509 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,440 dolphin shows up in the area and follows people but doesn't approach them. Stage 510 00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:08,000 two, the dolphin starts to follow boats and people, and people start to 511 00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:12,519 feed, play, swim with, or otherwise interact with the dolphin. Stage 512 00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:16,079 three, the dolphins familiar with people, has lost its natural wariness to people 513 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:21,359 and boats and allows the interactions to happen. And Stage four, which is 514 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,680 a stage that this dolphin is now in. It becomes a tourist attraction with 515 00:32:24,759 --> 00:32:29,079 people coming to see and inappropriately interacting with it, and it can cause the 516 00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:32,799 dolphin to show dangerous behaviors towards people, including dominant and aggressive behaviors. So 517 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,720 law enforcement is trying to do what they can to protect this dolphin, and 518 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,279 Noah is asking once again, if you see any violations, especially with this 519 00:32:40,359 --> 00:32:45,119 dolphin, report it to their enforcement hotline, which is eight hundred and eighty 520 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,599 five three one nine sixty four. And if you violate this, like by 521 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,480 interacting with the dolphin trying to feed it, you could be fined up to 522 00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:55,880 one hundred thousand dollars in face one year in jail. Yeah, I'm assuming 523 00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,039 they have like fishing game around where this dolphin is. Yeah, they've increased 524 00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:04,400 patrols to try to make it better, but it's still pretty terrible. Yeah. 525 00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:07,279 So I was like, man, I wonder if a dolphins ever killed 526 00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:09,039 somebody or if like this has ever happened before, like a dolphin trying to 527 00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:16,319 like separate people. And I found a dolphin called Teo sure t i a 528 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:22,119 with a squiggly Oh yes, t O your part of Fanish I was helping. 529 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,519 You'd like pick up on it. Isn't that Spanish for unklin? Yes 530 00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:30,519 it's yes, it's but it has an A in it too in the language 531 00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:36,759 just TiO is it? Yes? Okay, that's when it's to okay tire 532 00:33:36,799 --> 00:33:40,519 cruise. Oh maybe it is. Anyways, So he was a also solitary 533 00:33:40,599 --> 00:33:45,000 mill dolphin, and he was spotted around the town of Sao Sebastio. I 534 00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:49,559 think sure in Brazil in nineteen ninety four, and that's why the named him 535 00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:52,559 too, because it's the end of Sebastio, so similar thing. People were 536 00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:57,359 interacting with him, and he also, for some reason, which I think 537 00:33:57,359 --> 00:34:00,279 I know the reason, had a preference of interacting with female humans. I 538 00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:04,960 mean I said it earlier, so you're yelled at me for there's no evidence. 539 00:34:05,359 --> 00:34:08,360 So the dolphin started to receive public attention in March in nineteen ninety four 540 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,920 when he started to visit Pierre almost daily, following boats stuff like that. 541 00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:15,639 He quickly became a popular and over thirty people at a time would be in 542 00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:19,639 the water with him, like trying to hold them. People were trying to 543 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,239 restrain him, to take pictures of him, stick ice cream cones in his 544 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:29,519 blowhole, and also tried to pour beer in his mouth. Okay, now, 545 00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:32,039 no, no, was getting wrong with these people. I know that's 546 00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:37,119 their Americans on vacation. Fact, Like, you're just trying to fucking swim 547 00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:38,199 with dolphins because you think you can't. I'm not trying, POI think that's 548 00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:46,960 war right unless so by November of nineteen ninety four, he had sent twenty 549 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:52,320 eight people to the hospital. They just let this thing roll. In December 550 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:58,760 of nineteen ninety four, two male swimmers, Wilson Reyese Pedroso and Joao Paulo 551 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:06,480 Moraria. You're all lost too. So they were harassing this dolphin t o 552 00:35:07,159 --> 00:35:13,800 and trying to restrain him. The dolphin broke the ribs of Wilson Podroso and 553 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,679 killed the other guy. No shit, yep, he killed show out. 554 00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:21,559 Yep. It doesn't specifically say how it exactly happened, but I'm sure like, 555 00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:22,800 if you're in the ocean and dolphin breaks your ribs, you're kind of 556 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:27,519 fucked. Yeah. After this incident, he the dolphin returned to the beach 557 00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:31,079 in January of nineteen einety five, and the government officials in the area were 558 00:35:31,159 --> 00:35:35,960 like, okay, time to set up a public education campaign to stop people 559 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,760 from fucking with this dolphin. And he the dolphins stuck around for a few 560 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:44,360 more months, but then finally left, and most people assumed that he rejoined 561 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,360 a pod of dolphins so he like didn't need the people anymore. But some 562 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,360 people think he might have been killed out of revenge. So there's really no 563 00:35:50,639 --> 00:35:53,920 more information on that. Let's hope he got away and just lived out his 564 00:35:54,079 --> 00:36:00,280 days happy without actual too. I hope so too to bang the Brazilian woman. 565 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,880 There's no evidence. Yes, dolphins have humped people, but they haven't. 566 00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:08,480 There's been no penetration. Thank you, You're welcome. I know you 567 00:36:08,519 --> 00:36:13,760 didn't want to say it. I didn't you, but here we are. 568 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,639 So that was it. And I'm still shocked that you think something the dolphins 569 00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:19,719 is a good idea. I don't think it's a good idea. I'm saying 570 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:24,599 I would do it, Okay, I'm not gonna lie about it. I 571 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,280 appreciate that you're not lying about it. I just wish that you'd change your 572 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,679 opinion. And that's that's it. I will do my best to avoid any 573 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,920 dolphin interactions for the rest of my life. I do promise you that I 574 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:37,760 think you've done a good job so far. I will not go out of 575 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,519 my way to interact with the dolphin. So even if I was like, 576 00:36:40,559 --> 00:36:43,719 oh my god, think let's go someone with the dolphin, you'd be like 577 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:45,719 you no, well, yeah, because I know it's gonna be a trap. 578 00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:52,119 You're right, But if you want vacation by yourself without me, I'd 579 00:36:52,159 --> 00:36:54,559 be very sad if I just want a vacation along, So I don't plan 580 00:36:54,639 --> 00:36:58,559 on doing that. Okay, well that's various. But if Nick and I 581 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,679 go on vacation, he's like, hey, man goes with dolphins, you 582 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:06,280 would never get you never get out of me. So anyone ever offers I 583 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,199 know it's a trap. I'm just gonna say no, Okay, I think 584 00:37:09,559 --> 00:37:13,280 yeah, I think that's a good this is a good compromise here. Yes, 585 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,360 okay, that makes me happier than you just saying that you should do 586 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,760 it. Oh no, no, no, no, you should not do 587 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,079 it. But I would do it. I would never. I wouldn't either. 588 00:37:22,159 --> 00:37:25,280 I just although I will say there was a girl that the three of 589 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,400 us went to high school with who got proposed to with a dolphin. Like 590 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,000 the dolphin was holding do you guys remember this? Oh yeah I do know. 591 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,800 Yeah, And the dolphin was holding a movie that said will you marry 592 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,280 me? That's really cute? Yeah, but also like I was like, 593 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,039 that's a little wicky. Anyways, I like it. So yeah, that's 594 00:37:39,079 --> 00:37:44,440 it. That's all I had about dolphins. And uh, yeah, suppose 595 00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:49,400 I do die. Yeah, And allegedly, according to that article, I 596 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,239 was just reading about that death. The guy that died was drunk but like, 597 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,000 I feel like you kind of have to be to be holding down a 598 00:37:57,079 --> 00:38:01,400 wild dolphin. But that's just me. Well, too bad. Don't swim. 599 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,159 Don't drink and swim. Yeah, wait, at least thirty minutes. 600 00:38:05,679 --> 00:38:08,639 Don't drink and swim with dolphins specifically. Yeah wait, wait, wait thirty 601 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:14,039 minutes before you drinking, swim with dolphins or just don't or just don't that's 602 00:38:14,119 --> 00:38:19,400 the better option. Yes, And if for some reason you see a injured 603 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,239 or dead mammal they want you to call. This number confuses me, but 604 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:27,880 it is the number that was the snow Noah's website. Eight seven seven Whale 605 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,679 help Like w h A L E H E L P numbers. That's a 606 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,920 lot of numbers. It's a lot of numbers. Yeah, can't pass word 607 00:38:36,639 --> 00:38:42,159 nine numbers you right, let's right calling it. Thank you for calling the 608 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,519 Southeast Region Marine Mammal and see turtle hot one. Oh my god, please 609 00:38:45,639 --> 00:38:51,679 do not attend to return stranded animals to the water. To report and entangled 610 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:57,199 whale. Press one to report all other injured or dead marine mammals. Press 611 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:02,039 two to report a lord whales side such as right hump back or brude as 612 00:39:02,119 --> 00:39:09,239 well. Three to report an injured or dead sea turtle or no, thank 613 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:14,119 you. That was very nice to me to say the very nice to robot. 614 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,000 That's good to know what that works. Yeah, so that one knows 615 00:39:17,039 --> 00:39:21,800 that we have tested them and they work. And if you see a dead 616 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,960 thing, yeah, column calm let them know you're not in the southeast region, 617 00:39:25,159 --> 00:39:28,119 call them anyway, because they're probably able to get you in a connection 618 00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:30,239 with anyone you need to get. Oh, that's a really good point. 619 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,760 Good for you. Yeah. Any closing thoughts on dolphins, anybody or anything 620 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,199 else. Ocean scares me. Man. The Russian military tried to train them 621 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:44,320 to defuse bombs in the Ukraine. I do work. No, No, 622 00:39:44,519 --> 00:39:46,920 I did not. There's also a really messed up story I was reading in 623 00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:53,039 preparation for this episode of a case in the nineteen sixties of the CIA using 624 00:39:53,159 --> 00:39:58,239 LSD to see what does dolphins, and the dolphins tried to fuck the the 625 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,079 trainer and she had to get to hand job that one. I hate that 626 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:06,280 you knew exactly what I was talking about, the fact that he knows the 627 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,239 most messed up parts of my stories. I hate it. At one point 628 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:10,440 in your life, did you say I'm going to research this right now. 629 00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:17,280 It's about fourteen. I think, wow, this episode truly took a turn 630 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:22,639 too a few turns. 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