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At at. Tonight's guest is Javier
founder of Cryptid five five nine. Javier,

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Welcome to the show. Hello Vick, thank you, thank you for

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having us well, thanks so much
for coming on. We appreciate your time.

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Javier, please give us a brief
bio in yourself. Okay, grew

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up in the California in the Central
Valley, which is near Presnel, California.

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I live in a small town which
is thirty minutes east of Presnel,

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California called Riatley, California, and
we leave along the King's River. In

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twenty seventeen, we heard about a
family of sasquatch running around this Avocado Lake

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area, which is about fifteen minutes
north from where we live. And that's

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how CRYPTI five Fight nine got started. We started going out there and we

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started experiencing paranormal stuff, cryptied stuff, having encounters, and in twenty eighteen,

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the YouTube channel got started after I
had my dog run encounter. I

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have myself had encounters black triangles,
dog Man and other crypted stuff, and

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we'll get into that, but you
know, always had a excitement for the

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paranormal and the scrypted stuff. You
definitely don't let any grass grunder your feet.

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You definitely get out there and beat
the bushes a lot researching themselves.

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We're going to talk about two encounters
you've had already, but I'm pretty sure

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it's just a matter of time for
more follow yes, sir, Yeah,

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Well when we go out there,
I don't know what it is, vic.

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You know, it seems like something's
guiding us to these areas or we're

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finding you know, the structures,
and then we go and investigate these areas

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and we come across them. Well, that sure does make it easy when

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you don't have trouble finding them.
What's that area around Reatley? Like,

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I've never heard of the place?
Really, California is a small egg community.

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There's about four small towns about fifteen
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in between you got citrus orchards,
you got tree fruit, grapevines. It's

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agricultural community out here. And we're
close to the hills. So we're close

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to Sequoyo National Park, about an
hour a ways, two hours away from

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the seventy National Park, and about
another hour away from King's Canyon National Park,

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So we're close to the hills,
like I said, And then you

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know, it's just all ag agricultural
land out here, citrus tree, fruit,

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pistachios, little bit of everything.
Sounds like a beautiful place. Yes,

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sir, Yes it is. I
believe it. In twenty eighteen,

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you had your first dog mean encounter, before the moment you layt eyes on

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that dog man. What are your
thoughts about them? I had heard about

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them, but I've never heard about
them in our area here in California.

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Never heard about them. But I
did, you know, hear about them

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in the Midwest, Wisconsin, Iowa, Ohio, all in that area,

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the lbl one, you know,
a Michigan, Michigan dog man. I

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was familiar with the term dog man, but never heard, like I said,

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never heard of it in our area. Never heard anybody have any encounters

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of that. And just the Sasquatch, you know, the Bigfoot. But

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that was the first time I heard
bigfoot down in the valley floor, though

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not in the mountains. We always
thought they were up in the Sequoias or

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Kings Canyon, Orsemity up in the
mountains. But we started hearing that they

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were down in the valley floor here
along the King's River. We you think

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about all the fruit trees and all
the resources down there, in the valley.

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It just makes sense that they'd be
hanging around all the time down there,

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exactly. And then prior to us
starting the channel, we had a

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pretty big fires up in the forest. A lot of the areas got burnt,

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so you know, they could have
pushed them down here and they followed

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the river. I mean, this
is what we think. They followed the

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river down to the valley floor because
the fire is pushing them down and then

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they found all the food supply that's
down here, so they might have ended

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up just staying down here most of
the year. Yeah, and they might

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as well stay close to the food. Sounds like they have tons of it

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down there, so why not,
Yes, sir, it only makes sense

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from what I understand. You saw
a tiarosaur one time. What's the story

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behind that. Yeah, So it's
also in this down in the valley floor

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near there's Avocado Lake area. This
area is a hotspot for us. It's

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one of our hotspots. We call
it Skinwalker Branch, you know, because

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it's similar activity as the one that's
being showed on TV right now of the

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series. They've had all this history
of activity and this area is exactly the

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same. There's a lot of utiful
sidings up in this area, like against

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Sasquatch, family of Sasquatch, a
dog man. Now with my encounter,

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and now terosaurs pterodactyl I believe it
or not, we ended up sighting a

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pterodactyl along this Kings River near a
bridge, and prior to the signing,

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we were hearing about other encounters that
year, one near Rety, one near

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Kingsburg, which is another small community. Like I said, that's about fifteen

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minutes away from us, but it's
all these communities are close to the Kings

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River. So there was one encounter
there, one in Reatley, and then

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ours up in the Allacatta Lake area. Let's think about this. You've got

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dogman, obviously, Sasquatch as well, and at least one Tira. So

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it really does make you wonder what's
not living in that valley exactly now,

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yeah, exactly when I saw the
dog man. You know, after that,

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I believe everything exists. There's a
possibility that everything exists. Vampires,

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other different types of cryptis that we
don't even know about, maybe a predator

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type one like the movies. I'm
hearing stories about one that's similar like that

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that people are letting me know that
are up in the hills. It's like,

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okay, well, hey, it's
a possibility. I saw what I

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saw. Yeah, I'd say anything
is a possibility. After having all of

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those experiences, it's obvious that you
don't frighten easily. But has anything ever

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happened to you when you're out in
the field researching that came close to driving

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you out of research and cryptids all
together? One time we went to check

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out an area that we were seeing
structures, but we went in there and

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and all of us got sick,
like we had headaches. All of a

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sudden, we got headaches, uh, stomach aches, and we needed to

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get out of there because it was
just you know, I was tasting blood

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in my mouth, and I don't
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either by infrasound or maybe something spiritual. But that's the only place we

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have experienced that. Yeah, I
don't know what it was. Like I

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said, it could have been infra
sound or something spiritual was attacking us,

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So we need to get out of
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would have driven almost anyone out.
It really does make you wonder what was

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going on there. Exactly, and
I'll get into that. It kind of

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connects to one of the dog man
encounters areas, so I'll get into that.

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When we talked about that, well, that sounds good. Yeah,

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we'd love to hear more. If
you've had a dog mean encounter would like

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to speak with me about it,
whether I'm private or on the show,

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please go to Dogmanencounters dot com and
submit a report. If you've had a

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big foot sighting and would like to
be a guest on one of my two

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bigfoot shows, please go to my
Bigfoot Sighting dot com. You have friends

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who've had dog mean encounters of their
own, what can you tell us about

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their encounters. One of my friends
was able to encounter the dog man that

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I encountered in the same area near
Albocatta Lake, but at a different location.

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This was actually his encounter was early
in the morning and it was actually

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behind Albocatta Lake and behind the citrus
orchard, and he saw it in the

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day and yeah, it freaked him
out. There's actually a video out there

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that they made on it. His
encounter is that way, you guys can

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see the area. It's under the
YouTube channel squatch Zone, and I believe

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it's a dog man encounter. The
video's labeled dog Man Encounter. If it's

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okay, I'm gonna post a link
to that video in the description for tonight's

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show. Sounds good, great,
I'll do that then. All right,

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Javier, please tell us about your
encounters. Now, give us every last

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detail that comes to mind. Sure. The dog man encounter that me and

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my cousin experience was the June of
twenty eighteen. Like I said, we

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had heard about a family of sasquatch
around Alvocado Lake, so we ended up

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starting to go out there, me
and my cousin, Jose. We went

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up there. We had just recently
purchased some night vision goggles and we wanted

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to get a feel for them,
so we wanted to try them out.

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So we go up to past Avocado
Lake, just a little north of there.

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There's another park called Winton Park and
there's a bridge and the Kings River

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goes under that bridge, and then
there's a turnout. So we park on

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this turnout by the bridge and we
get down get our stuff together. We

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don't walk anywhere, we just get
down off the van. We got our

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night vision goggles and by the time
we're getting there. It's already getting dark,

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so that way we can start,
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these not vision goggles. So getting
dark, and it's been about now,

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about ten fifteen minutes that we've been
there. So he gets up here and

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I, you know, the night
vision gogs, and I get the other

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one, and he starts messing with
one, and he's looking down down the

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river bottom along the river bank,
and I get the other one, and

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I started looking at the mountain ridges
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of us, and I'm trying to
get a feel for it. And then

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he tells me, hey, check
this out. I noticed something down by

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the river bank and there's a set
of what looks like eye shine, you

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know, a set of them,
you know, total four. So two

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creatures down there or whatever, rodents
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it is. So I look through
his night vision goggles and sure enough,

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if I see the eye shine,
and they're stirring right it look like they're

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staring right back at us. So
it's like, okay, they're staring at

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us. It's alretty dark, and
I noticed that they're in some kind of

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shrub, and I believe that it's
a fig tree, but it's more like

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a shrub. It grew like a
shrub, not like a tree. So

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they're like inside this fig shrub.
And there's an old tree also there along

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this river bank. So I thought
them, okay, well keep an eye

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on it. See what they do. If they blink then we know they

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are eyes, or if they move
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you know, and watch it.
So he's concentrated on that. Meanwhile,

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I go back to my night vision
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ridges in front of us and to
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a bit, I lower my night
vision goggles to my chest facing forward,

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and then I looked to see what
he's doing. And he's still concentrated on

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that. He's trying to get,
you know, trying to see what exactly

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it is. So then on the
side of my eye, when I'm looking

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at him, on the side of
my eye, you know, my peripheral

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vision, I see a movement behind
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Remember I have my my night vision
goggles on my chest, so I turn

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behind us, and I see this
huge creature coming down on all fours towards

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us from running towards us along the
ridge here behind us, and then it

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stopped. All of a sudden,
it stopped, and it stopped me and

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got on two legs, you know. It got up on two legs,

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and then it rose its arms in
the air. And I'm looking at this

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thing, and I'm thinking, man, I'm seeing the Sasquad. Just this

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thing was massive. This thing was
huge. It was at least eight to

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ten feet tall. The chest was
about four to five feet wide. It

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was a human type body. I
can see the arms, very muscular,

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very all muscle. I can see
the hands, human hands. I couldn't

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see the face, so I couldn't
see the head. It was all black.

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I could just see the outline of
all this this creature. So,

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like I said, it got on
two legs. It got up and then

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it wave. It picked up its
arms in the air, and then it

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started waving them real quick, and
then it went and dropped back down on

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all fours. You know. It
was on all fours again, and then

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it started running along the ridge.
So it started running on all fours along

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the ridge while I was running.
It was kind of weird when I was

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observing this creature. You know.
Meanwhile, I'm thinking to sasquatch. Okay,

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the sasquat. I'm seeing the sasquatch. When it's running on all fours,

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I noticed I had a bump behind
the head, like a lion's maan

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that had a bump. I couldn't
tell if it had hair or anything,

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but I just noticed that bump behind
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And then, uh, it stopped. It stopped when it got to

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this part of the mountain ridge where
there's a crease. It stopped. But

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let me go back real quick.
As it was running, it was moving

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kind of weird, you know.
It was like, it's kind of it's

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it's uh like if you draw the
way I can tell you it is like

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if you draw a cartoon on a
little notebook in the corners of your notebook,

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and then you flip through them,
and then how it moves like that

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the little cartoon, how it moves. That's how it was moving. As

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it was running. It was like
skipping like a man. It's hard to

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say, like if you're watching the
moving and it's kipping a film or a

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piece of film, you know,
like it's weird to explain it, but

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I can only say, it's just
like that notebook, you know when you

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draw a cartoon and you flip through
it. That's how it was moving.

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And when it got to this certain
part of this mountain where there was a

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crease, it stopped and then it
got on all twos again on two feet,

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but this time it had its back
towards me, and it rose its

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arms again in the air and it
grabbed down to the side of the hill

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there. Now this time I can
see it's back. His back went down

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to a V shape, down to
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was muscular, like I can't you
know. This thing was muscular, all

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muscle. I can see the thighs
were all muscle. I can see the

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calves all muscle. Then it,
like I said, it rose its arms

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up to grab the side of the
hill there. That's when I noticed the

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hands again, the arms all muscle. But then I saw claws. I

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saw claws at the at the fingertips. I was able to see claws.

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So then it grabbed down to the
side of the hill there, and then

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it leaped up, you know,
it brought its legs up, leaped up,

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and then it did it again,
rose its arms again, grabbed on

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to the side of the ill,
and at that time it turned its head.

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When it was grabbing to the side
of the hill, it turned its

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head to the left, and that's
when I noticed the snout it had.

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The mouth was open. I can
see the canines. I can see the

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point of ears. And that's when
I said to myself, what the heck

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am I see? And it's not
a sasquatch. This is a were wolf,

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a dog man, a were wolf. There's a canine, a German

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shepherd type head on it. And
then it turned back. It got to

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the top of the ridge. There
it stayed low to the ground. As

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it was going over the ridge,
I noticed on its thighs like it had

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ribbed shorts, because like you know, my head's telling me it has rib

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shorts. That's what it looked like. It didn't have a tail. There

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was no tail. I didn't notice
the tail, but it did. I

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could tell, Like on its legs
it had like ribbed shorts, like the

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like the denim when they're ribbed.
It was dangling, that's what it looked

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like. And then it went over
the ridge and stayed loaded the ground inches

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from the ground on all fours and
it crawled over the ridge like a spider,

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and very quick. And this thing
with stealth never made a sound.

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My cousin never even turned around.
This thing was running and jumping and doing

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whatever it was doing. He never
heard it. He never turned around.

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I never told him because I didn't
want to break visual. I wanted to

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remember everything, all the detail that
I was, you know, I wanted

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to collect all the detail and watch
this thing where it was going. So

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this thing was stealth, moved very
fast for the size that it was very

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quick. It was out of sight, you know, within a minute.

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They did all that within the minute, I would say. You know,

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after that creature went over the ridge
there, I told my cousin, hey,

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I just saw something. It wasn't
a sasquatch. I thought it was

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a sasquatch. It had a dog
hit on it. It went over the

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ridge there, and you know,
we don't have anything to protect us from

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that thing, whatever it was.
And he was all upset because I didn't

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tell him. I go, dude, I did not want to break visual.

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I didn't know what this thing was
gonna do. It could have easily

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jumped from where it was at jump
and landed right in between us and taking

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us out if he wanted to.
So I don't know if we scared it

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or it just or it was,
you know, upset that we got in

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a way. Maybe he wanted to
go to get water because it was in

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the summer. It was in June, so it was hot out here in

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this area. It was in the
nineties at night, so it was in

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the nineties ninety degree weather, so
I mean, or it was after what

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we were seeing down below. I
don't know if it was its pups,

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or it was sasquatch babies, or
its food some type of food could be

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wild bore. I don't know,
but you know, like I said,

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when he saw me turn around,
it stopped and it rose its arms in

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the air. So I don't know
if it was trying to get my attention

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or it was upset. I don't
know, but luckily it didn't come after

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us. And Vic you have a
thumbnail on your YouTube channel that some now

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that picture on your dog Man Encounters. That's how it looks. But this

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thing was very muscular, more muscular, but exactly like that, like the

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one you have, like the van
housing wherewoll I would say the van housing.

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We didn't stay very long after that, you know, I was just

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waiting to hear a how after it
went over the heads the ridge there and

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I was just waiting to hear a
oh, you know, and I was

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out of there because dude, I
was excited but scared at the same time

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that I was able to witness this
and lucky enough, you know that it

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didn't attack us or anything. But
I didn't growl at us. It didn't

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growl at me. When I was
watching that, I didn't hear any growling

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or anything like that. Just it
just took off. Like I said to

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me, it was to get out
of you. But yeah, it was

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how, please go to Dogman Encounters
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day, we ended up going back
in the day, but no, it

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wasn't with my cousin. It was
the other member, good friend sus.

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We went there because I had told
him what I saw and he wanted to

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go out there. There's got to
be prints out there, There's got it,

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And I go, yeah, I
know, there's got to be prints.

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So we went out there, and
sure enough, we ended up finding

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a print on that turnout that we
were parked on. And remember the turnout,

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it's all compacted dirt. It's next
to the road. So we ended

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up finding this print. So whatever
made this print had a wait to it.

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And I invite you to go to
our YouTube channel cryptid five five nine

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and go look at the video,
because we shot the video at the location.

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It's called my dong Man Encounter.
And in that video you'll see the

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picture of the print that we found. Now where it was running, the

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mountain ridge where it was running,
that's all private property. We cannot go

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in there. I've asked around there, like the locals, like who owns

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the property. Nobody knows. They
just know that they're on horseback. They

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see them on horseback with rifles.
It's cattle land, so that they don't

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They said that they don't like anybody
in their property, want nobody in there,

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so we don't. You know,
we respect that. We don't go

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in until we talk to the owner
and get permission, but so far we

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haven't got permission to get back in
there. The second one was about a

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year later. The second dog Man
encounter was at a different location. It

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was on the outskirts of Clovis,
California. Clovis is a neighbor to Fresnel,

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California. It's a town neighboring Fresnel, California. So this was on

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the outskirts of Clovis, California.
Now, this particular area, I was

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invited to go with one of my
friends that lives out in Clovis, California,

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and he had been called out to
this area because somebody contacted him that

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something was stealing their sheep. And
they contacted him because they knew that he

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kind of investigated cryptid encounters or you
know, investigated this type of stuff.

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So they contacted him and he ended
up telling me, you know, let's

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go out to this syria and I'll
tell you where we found him. We

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found the sheep. Okay. So
I go without with him and it was

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just me and him drive out there. We park along this busy road.

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It's an eucalyptus island. I call
it eucalyptus tree island. A bunch of

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eucalyptus trees in there, and it's
surrounded by citrus orchards and also across the

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street is more citrus orchards. So
we go. We park right there by

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the Eucalyptus Island and we get down. We start walking in there, and

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he's telling me the story of what
happened, and you know, and we

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you know, it's about a mile
away from where the sheep were taken,

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and we've ended up finding him here, and so he's showing me the area

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and when we found he, when
we found the sheep that were opened up

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from the chest, you know,
they were opened up from the chest and

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all the inners were eating. And
I'm just you know, I'm listening to

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him and I'm saying, okay,
and I'm looking around also trying to see

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like if there's any type of structures
or any footprints or anything else that you

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know, you can come across.
And I start noticing some structures, but

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I also start getting a feeling that
I need to go. Something's pulling me

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I need to go to the opposite
end of this island, this Cycalyptus tree

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Island. And I'm telling my friend
there, you know, I need to

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go. Something telling me I need
to go to the other side of this

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island. He goes, okay,
well, let's go. So we walked

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to the other side of the island
there and across the street there's a citrus

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orchard and there's also a reservoir along
the road. The reservoir is kind of

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dry, but it's still muddy,
and I told my friend, you know

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what, if there's gonna be priants, we're going to find them in that

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in that muddy area. So he
goes, WHOA, let's go across.

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So we ended up going across the
street and we're looking at the reservoir trying

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to see if we can find prints
different kind of prants. We're seeing some

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ones like possum or raccoon type,
nothing big at that time. He ends

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up going one direction and I go
the opposite direction along the road, and

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as I'm walking farther away from the
reservoir, I noticed something on the avenue

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on the outskirt of the orchard.
And I noticed this thing on all fours

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and it had a big head.
First of all, I thought it was

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a coyote at first, but then
I'm looking at it. It had a

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big head, it had no tail, so I go, it's not a

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coyote. And then the color was
off. This creature was orange yellowish color

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and it had hair. I could
see the hair. It was orange yellowish

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color. It was skinny on all
fours, and it had a big head,

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like a big canine head, and
I, what the heck? So

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I'm looking at it, and then
I noticed that on all fours it's about

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four to five feet tall, and
what the heck? And then the citrus

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tree that it was next to,
that one was at least six to eight

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feet tall. It was almost half
ways you know, on all four is

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like what? So I tell my
friend I go, hey, come over

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here. You know, I'm still
looking at the creature. I'm just yelling

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it out, Hey, come over
here, come this way. You see

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what I'm seeing. And he's trying
to get back to where I was at.

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And meanwhile, this creature starts moving
its head up and down, and

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I'm telling my friends, hey,
you're seeing this? Are you seeing this?

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Do you see it? And he
goes, I can't see it.

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I'm trying to get to you.
And by that time it turned around.

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After it rose its head up and
down and it turned around, I noticed

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it had no tail again. Then
it walked away, but when it walked

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away, it walked kind of multi
jointed. It walked off funky, and

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it walked back into the orchards,
went back into the orchards, and I

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told him, did you see it? I told my friend did you see

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it? He goes, no,
I didn't see it. I wasn't able

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to see it from where I was
at, and he got there too late.

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Oh dude, I don't know what
that was. And I was telling

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him what it looked like. And
then I told him that I was raising

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his head up and down. And
then my friend said, well, you

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know what he was doing, right, And I go no, what I

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thought it was acknowledging that I was
here. He goes, no, he

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was trying to pick up your sin. And then that made a lot of

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sense, and he goes okay,
and I said okay, yeah, and

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I go, well, walk back
into the orchard. So meanwhile, like

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I said, it was alongside this
busy road and cars passing by left and

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right, and then we're trying to
hear, you know, cause we were

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hearing branches breaking and leaves shuffling from
inside the orchard, and it was getting

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closer to us. We can't tell
it was getting closer to us. And

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I told him do you hear that? He goes, yeah, I'm hearing

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that there's a lot of movement.
It's coming closer to us. Well yeah,

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And then when that happened, all
of a sudden, I start tasting

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metal in my mouth and my stomach
started hurt bad. And I'm telling my

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friend, hey, I'm feel too
good. Now I'm starting to taste metal

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in my mouth and my stomach's hurting. He goes, dude, I just

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got a massive My friend said,
I just got a massive headache. I

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said, what the heck? So
I'm thinking it's like dude, So then

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I start I say a prayer of
protection and it kind of relieved the symptoms

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for a bit, and we started
walking back towards the van along the orchard

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there, and we still hear something
moving coming closer to us. You know,

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it's moving the branch. You can
hear the branches, you can hear

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the leaves on the ground. Something's
moving and it's coming closer and closer.

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So then we stop for a bit
to hear again, and then I get

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that pain again. I get the
stomach pain again, and then I taste

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that metal in my mouth again,
and it's like, nah, it's like

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somes. I told my friend,
some's attacking us. Dude, he is

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spiritual or it's infrasound, something's going
on. And he goes, yeah,

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I don't feel well. I have
a massive headache, not feeling too good.

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I go now, let's just get
the heck out of here. I

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don't know what this thing was.
It looked like a canine. Ish.

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Did your friend ever go out into
the bush with you after that experience?

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Oh yeah, he's been back out
with me. Yeah, we go out.

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He invites me out all the time, and we always go out.

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He sure doesn't frighten easily, does
he. No, he doesn't. He's

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had a sasquatch encounter that lasted about
two hours, so he's he's uh,

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he's good. He doesn't get fighting
very well, real easy. Yeah,

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i'd say he doesn't. Is that
Alan that you're talking about, Yes,

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sir, I'm talking about Alan Thomas, Yes, sir. Well, yeah,

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no, wonder he didn't frighten easily. Huh. How far is Avocada

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Lake from where you live? Javier? Avocado Lake is about fifteen minutes north

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of Reatley for where we lives,
about fifteen minutes away, not very far.

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Yeah, that is close. If
it's so close. When we had

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that first encounter. Do you have
any concerns about that dog man following you

406
00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:18.119
home? You know, I've heard
of stories of people saying that they follow

407
00:30:18.160 --> 00:30:22.119
you home, but so far I
haven't. I haven't experienced anything here at

408
00:30:22.160 --> 00:30:26.640
the house. I do pray.
I do pray. I'm gonna say,

409
00:30:26.640 --> 00:30:33.319
I do pray for nothing negative or
any dark or negative to be allowed on

410
00:30:33.359 --> 00:30:37.759
this property. I do pray at
night, and so far, you know,

411
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:41.640
I haven't had any issues. And
I want to also say, we

412
00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:45.960
have another hotspot area just outside of
Reatley, outside of town. There's a

413
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:49.119
few of them, and they're just
outside of town, our town, and

414
00:30:49.400 --> 00:30:56.039
they're around there, vic they're close
to towns. People don't understand that these

415
00:30:56.079 --> 00:30:59.759
things are just outside your town,
but sometimes they're running in town. I'm

416
00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:03.680
here and I'm hearing stories of the
people that they've seen them running in town

417
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:08.400
at night. They call them shadows, but they believe it's a sasquatch or

418
00:31:08.400 --> 00:31:12.640
the dog man. Oh sure,
Well, towns are where all the resources

419
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:15.920
are, well not all the resources, but a lot of resources, so

420
00:31:17.440 --> 00:31:19.599
it only makes sense that they would
come into town and hang out on the

421
00:31:19.599 --> 00:31:25.759
outskirts. YEP. When that big
dog man came toward you and started waving

422
00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:29.680
its arms over its head. What
do you think that was all about?

423
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:32.200
You know? And now I think
about it, I don't know, like

424
00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:36.160
I said, like, I still
think about it, and I don't know

425
00:31:36.200 --> 00:31:40.799
if it was just trying to get
my attention or it was upset. I

426
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:45.640
don't I don't know, you know, like I said, I don't know

427
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:49.079
if it was it was upset that
we got in its way. It was

428
00:31:49.119 --> 00:31:52.799
going towards the river. I just
don't know. I don't know what that

429
00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:59.480
meant. They do some strange things
sometimes. Yeah, then I think about

430
00:31:59.480 --> 00:32:01.319
it. Well, whenever reacted like
it took off like it was afraid of

431
00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:06.119
me. So it's but at first, you know, I thought I was

432
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:08.839
trying to sneak up on us,
because, like I said, it was

433
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:12.880
stealth. It didn't make any sound, it didn't make any noise at all.

434
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:15.079
And then it acted like, well, I ran away from us,

435
00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:20.359
and it went over the ridge all
fast, you know, staying lowd to

436
00:32:20.359 --> 00:32:24.799
the ground like a spider and crawled
over the ridge. I mean, yeah,

437
00:32:24.960 --> 00:32:29.680
it's I don't know. Yeah,
Like I can only say that I

438
00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:34.960
did have my night vision goggles on
my chest, and they were facing it,

439
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:37.039
so it was facing forward. So
I don't know. If it's all

440
00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:39.680
the infrared on my chest, maybe
that scared it away. I don't know.

441
00:32:40.519 --> 00:32:44.640
I'm pretty sure they can see the
infrared on these night vision goggles.

442
00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:47.839
That might be what was going on. But if it was as big as

443
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:52.359
you say it was, I have
some serious doubts about actually being afraid of

444
00:32:52.359 --> 00:32:54.480
you. I don't think that was
the case at all. Yeah, and

445
00:32:54.480 --> 00:32:58.400
that's what I hear that these things
aren't the dog Man. They're not afraid

446
00:32:58.400 --> 00:33:01.960
of anything, So I have no
idea. Yeah, normally they're not.

447
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:07.359
How close did it get to you
before it turned and ran away, Well,

448
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:12.440
it was at least twenty to twenty
five yards from us. It was

449
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:17.000
very close. The street was between
us the road, and it's a two

450
00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:22.759
lane road, so not very far. So I was able to see it,

451
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:25.079
and we were. We should have
been able to hear noise like as

452
00:33:25.079 --> 00:33:30.200
it was running and it breathing or
doing, you know, we should have

453
00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:34.920
been able to hear something, and
we didn't hear nothing. Nothing. It

454
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:38.759
didn't make a sound. And this
thing was solid. It wasn't like an

455
00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:45.039
apparition like the ghost. It was
not. I could not see through it.

456
00:33:45.039 --> 00:33:49.960
It blocked out everything behind it.
It was solid, and then I

457
00:33:49.960 --> 00:33:52.920
can see that when we went back
the next day, I can see on

458
00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:57.599
that ridge where it grabbed an I
can see it. But we could,

459
00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:00.640
like I said, we could.
We didn't want to go in there without

460
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:02.799
permission, and I'm pretty sure there
it would have been more prints up there

461
00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:05.960
if we would have gone in.
But I didn't want to get in there

462
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:10.440
and get shot at because these guys
were carry rifles. Yeah, that's the

463
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:15.639
case. I don't blame you for
not going in. Yeah, you told

464
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:17.719
us about the strange way it was
moving as it was heading away from you.

465
00:34:19.559 --> 00:34:23.199
Did it look awkward in its movements
or just jerky? Is it moved

466
00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:28.840
away when it was running. Yeah, it was like like it was missing

467
00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:32.719
frames, Like I'm watching a movie
and it's missing frames. It was.

468
00:34:32.800 --> 00:34:37.119
It was weird, like it was
like, I don't it's hard to explain,

469
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:42.000
like it's missing frames, like it's
skipping, skipping the frame as it

470
00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:46.119
was running. When it stopped and
grabbed down to the side of the hill

471
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:50.480
that went away that part, it
wasn't skipping the frame no more. It

472
00:34:50.559 --> 00:34:53.000
was like it was there like right
there, and it was doing all this

473
00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:58.599
thing grabbed down to the side of
the hill and going up. But yeah,

474
00:34:58.599 --> 00:35:01.559
but as it was running towards,
you know, sideways on all fours,

475
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:06.440
it like it was moving like almost
like gliding, but skipping the frame.

476
00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:08.760
And man, I don't know,
it's kind of weird. I can

477
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:12.880
only explain it, like I said, like when you draw a little cartoon

478
00:35:12.920 --> 00:35:15.360
on the corner of a notebook and
you flip them. That's how it looked.

479
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:20.480
That's a good way to describe it, because it definitely paints the picture.

480
00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:22.800
Could you tell if it ran with
its knuckles in the ground when it

481
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:27.559
went on to all fours or its
palms. No, I could not see

482
00:35:27.599 --> 00:35:30.360
the feet, and I couldn't see
the when it was on all fours.

483
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:32.480
I couldn't see the feet of the
hands. I could not I could just

484
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:37.280
see the arms and the legs and
the rest of the body. Oh,

485
00:35:37.360 --> 00:35:39.639
that's all right. You can only
see what you can see. Yeah,

486
00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:44.039
it sounds like you got a pretty
good look at its ears. How tall

487
00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:49.159
would you say they were? The
ears were about maybe about twelve inches,

488
00:35:49.320 --> 00:35:52.280
maybe a little bit more. It
looked pretty big. And then the snout

489
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:58.559
was at least about let me see
about a little bit more than twelve inches,

490
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:01.480
maybe a foot and a half.
And the canines, I mean I

491
00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:04.840
saw the canines. I saw all
four of them because they had its mouth

492
00:36:04.920 --> 00:36:08.480
open and it looked like a German
shepherd bout it, you know, that's

493
00:36:08.480 --> 00:36:13.920
what it had. But this thing
was massive, Like I said, it

494
00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:16.800
was huge. It was eight to
ten feet tall and the chest part was

495
00:36:16.800 --> 00:36:22.840
at least four to five feet wide. All muscle, all muscle. That

496
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:28.000
it reminds me of the Van Helsing
the movie Van Heusing that werewolf in there.

497
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:31.800
It's very close to that, very
close. It must have been something

498
00:36:31.840 --> 00:36:37.360
to see. You said that you
saw what looked like rip red shorts on

499
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:40.400
it. How sure are you that
it wasn't something else though? You know,

500
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:44.719
in my mind that's what my mind
was telling me, it has ribed

501
00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:47.039
shorts. When I was observing this
thing, you know, I was seeing

502
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:52.199
the thighs, all the muscle,
and then I saw like what was dangling

503
00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:59.239
down was like like it had denim
ribed shorts, and that's what it looked

504
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:01.320
like. And that's when my mine
was telling me that's what it was registering,

505
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:07.679
is that it's rip shorts. I
mean it could have been hair,

506
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:09.760
I guess, but I didn't see
any other hair at the time, you

507
00:37:09.800 --> 00:37:13.920
know, I didn't see any what
looked like hair. I mean, it

508
00:37:13.920 --> 00:37:16.599
could have been hair, as wide
as it was and as big as it

509
00:37:16.760 --> 00:37:21.719
was. I don't want to jump
to conclusions here, but would you say

510
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:24.000
that it was too big to wear
any conventional red shorts that you'd ever be

511
00:37:24.039 --> 00:37:29.760
able to go into a store and
buy. Yeah, and that's the thing.

512
00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:35.519
Yeah, that's what I thought.
So I don't know if this thing

513
00:37:35.599 --> 00:37:38.719
is interdimensional. I don't That's where
you want to start asking yourself questions.

514
00:37:38.719 --> 00:37:45.800
Are these things interdimensional or do they
have they always been here? You don't

515
00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:50.039
know. I don't know. Yeah, as big as that one was,

516
00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:53.960
I've got the King size catalog right
here for clothing and everything that I get,

517
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:57.679
and I don't think I've ever seen
any shorts in the area that would

518
00:37:57.679 --> 00:38:01.519
have fit this guy from what you
described him, right, How rattled was

519
00:38:01.559 --> 00:38:06.800
your cousin from that experience? Well, he he wasn't rattled, you know,

520
00:38:06.920 --> 00:38:08.599
he was just excited that at what
I saw, But he was upset

521
00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:13.360
that I didn't tell him so he
can turn around. But like I said,

522
00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:16.360
I didn't want to break visual.
I wanted to see because this thing

523
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:19.840
was moving fast, so I wanted
to make sure I didn't break visual.

524
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:23.800
I want to remember everything that I
possibly can and all the detail. But

525
00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:27.079
I told him let's go, let's
go, and he's like, wait a

526
00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:29.000
minute. Wait, you know,
he wanted to stay longer. He's like,

527
00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:30.480
wait, wait, I go,
dude. We don't got anything to

528
00:38:30.519 --> 00:38:35.760
protect ourselves from that thing. All
we had was something like close range.

529
00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:37.000
You know, if this, if
this thing comes close to us, he's

530
00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:42.079
gonna take us out. It's not
that we didn't get out of here,

531
00:38:42.159 --> 00:38:45.239
dude, after what I saw.
It's like, no, uh uh,

532
00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:50.639
we don't have anything to protect ourselves
from it. And I don't know if

533
00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:52.920
it'll come back with another one.
You know, you never know, you

534
00:38:52.960 --> 00:38:54.400
know, because there'd be another one
behind the ridge. I don't know.

535
00:38:55.480 --> 00:39:00.320
Yeah, that could be. That's
in the realm of possibility. We said

536
00:39:00.360 --> 00:39:02.440
that didn't rattle him or anything.
But has he gone out researching with you

537
00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:07.960
since that experience. Yeah, he
loves this stuff. So oh jose and

538
00:39:08.039 --> 00:39:10.880
his suse love this stuff. So
they go out. Yeah, we all

539
00:39:10.880 --> 00:39:16.519
go out, which we usually go
out late in the evening about nine thirty

540
00:39:16.599 --> 00:39:22.360
till about eleven thirty. Sometimes we
SkyWatch. We do a little bit of

541
00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:29.800
everything SkyWatch. We listen during the
day. We out explore areas in the

542
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:34.599
day where if there's an area that
I noticed structures or we'll go out and

543
00:39:34.639 --> 00:39:37.239
explore if we can get in there, We'll go out and explore that area.

544
00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:39.719
And usually we capture stuff in the
photos. You know they're there,

545
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:45.440
And I invite your audience to go
check out our channel again and go look

546
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:49.360
at our videos. You know,
we have videos with the photos that we've

547
00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:53.599
possibly captured Cryptis in there and you
see a dog man possibly on two of

548
00:39:53.599 --> 00:40:00.199
them, and we have one with
the sasquatch possibly in the background. Like

549
00:40:00.239 --> 00:40:02.880
I said earlier, I'm going to
post a link to your chinnel on that

550
00:40:04.159 --> 00:40:07.639
description for tonight's show. That'll make
it really easy to find. When you

551
00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:12.840
had your second encounter, Hovier,
did that dog look like a smaller version

552
00:40:12.840 --> 00:40:16.320
of the big one you saw in
twenty eighteen, except skinnier or did it

553
00:40:16.360 --> 00:40:21.320
seem to be a different type of
dog man? I would say it was

554
00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:24.800
a different time. Vic. Yeah, it was not very muscular. It

555
00:40:24.840 --> 00:40:30.159
was about four to five feet on
all fours and it had no musk.

556
00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:32.679
I didn't notice any muscle on the
arms or the legs. It was just

557
00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:37.360
skinny. But it did have hair, you know. I was able to

558
00:40:37.360 --> 00:40:39.480
see the hair, and it was
orange yellowish, and it had a big

559
00:40:39.599 --> 00:40:44.400
canine head on it, you know, and it wasn't a horse, and

560
00:40:44.440 --> 00:40:47.880
it wasn't a coyote. They didn't
have a tail. There was no tail.

561
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:52.400
I couldn't see the ears by know, it had a snout and the

562
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:57.159
head looked like a canine, but
it was the head was bigger than you

563
00:40:57.159 --> 00:40:59.840
know, it didn't fit his body. It was kind of weird, like

564
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:05.199
that type of head size. It
should have fit that body on it,

565
00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:07.559
but it looked kind of weird.
And then when it walked away, when

566
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:13.519
it turned around, it walked like
it had multi joints. And it's kind

567
00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:16.039
of you know, I walked off
funky like, oh, you know,

568
00:41:16.239 --> 00:41:20.880
like that's a that's an easy ass
I can explain to you. It had

569
00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:24.320
like multi it was multi jointed or
something. And it walked away into the

570
00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:30.800
orchard no care in the world,
like walking away all multi jointed. And

571
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:32.880
then it went into the orchard,
and then we started getting sick. So

572
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:36.960
it's like, I don't know what
this was. I know it had like

573
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:42.159
a canine type head on it,
though I don't know. That is really

574
00:41:42.199 --> 00:41:45.000
strange. I wonder what that was
all about. I have no idea.

575
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:49.079
And then I told my friend,
you know what I saw, and he

576
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:52.719
goes, that could be the one
that's been taking the sheep from the the

577
00:41:52.760 --> 00:41:55.960
property owner that was about a mile
away. I well, yeah, I

578
00:41:57.000 --> 00:42:00.639
mean, I mean, I'm telling
you what I saw. He believed me.

579
00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:02.480
You know, we were both there. We were experiencing both you know,

580
00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:07.000
he just didn't see it, but
he was hearing all the shuffling and

581
00:42:07.039 --> 00:42:09.440
the leaves moving in the in the
orchard, and then we both got sick.

582
00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:13.519
You know, we weren't feeling good. He said, he didn't get

583
00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:15.760
the best look at its face,
But were you able to make out enough

584
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:20.079
details to be able to tell if
it was perturbed at you, or if

585
00:42:20.119 --> 00:42:25.760
it was neutral, or what kind
of a mood it was in. It

586
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:30.440
looked like it wasn't afraid and it
was just curious about us. That's what

587
00:42:30.559 --> 00:42:34.480
I got the sense of. It
wasn't afraid of us, but it was

588
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:37.679
curious to know why we were there. Or something. You know, that's

589
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:42.920
the feeling I got. And then
as I was getting it was, you

590
00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:45.559
know, we think it was getting
closer to us. That's what it was.

591
00:42:46.280 --> 00:42:50.679
It was curious, But then it
was also I don't know, there's

592
00:42:51.079 --> 00:42:55.400
if it sent infrasound or something spiritual, it has ability to attack you spiritually.

593
00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:59.840
I don't know. But yeah,
like I said, we weren't feeling

594
00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:04.280
very well. And then I went
back a second time, but without Alan.

595
00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:07.280
Alan didn't go that time. I
went back to do a video to

596
00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:10.840
do the to do an encounter video
there, and I couldn't do it.

597
00:43:10.880 --> 00:43:16.199
I started feeling sick again and we
had to leave until the third time.

598
00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:21.000
Then I went out there A year
or two later. I went out there

599
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:24.519
for the third time and I was
able to do the video. I didn't

600
00:43:24.559 --> 00:43:28.639
get sick that time, but I
didn't. Also, we didn't see anything.

601
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:32.280
We did notice structures in the in
the Eucalyptus island tree limbs that had

602
00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:38.079
been moved and they're pretty big.
They'd been moved around, but prince.

603
00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:43.079
We didn't find any Prince. But
at that time I was able to do

604
00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:45.639
the video. But like I said, it's kind of hard because It's a

605
00:43:45.679 --> 00:43:51.639
busy road going into Clovis and there's
always powers passing by, so it's pretty

606
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:53.599
loud, you know the car's going
by. So I did the best I

607
00:43:53.639 --> 00:43:59.239
can to do the video. But
that time I didn't get sick or anything.

608
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:04.320
Well, thank goodness for that.
Do you remember after getting sick like

609
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:07.880
that, if it took you a
sleep cycle to start feeling better or how

610
00:44:07.920 --> 00:44:13.519
long did it take you to recover? As soon as we left that area,

611
00:44:13.840 --> 00:44:19.000
vic I started feeling better and he
did also. So that's why we

612
00:44:19.039 --> 00:44:22.480
say something was attacking spiritually. It
attacked us somehow and for Sounder spiritually,

613
00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:27.280
because before that we were fine.
Before we even't got there, we were

614
00:44:27.320 --> 00:44:30.559
fine, both of us, and
as soon as we left, the symptoms

615
00:44:30.559 --> 00:44:35.400
went away. Even when I got
home, you know, I didn't feel

616
00:44:35.440 --> 00:44:38.880
that those symptoms anymore. I'm glad
you're able to recover so quickly then.

617
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:43.840
Yeah, But like I said,
I did, you know, I prayed

618
00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:47.239
a couple of times for protection,
and I believe I'm very spiritual, so

619
00:44:49.400 --> 00:44:54.360
I believe in my God and stuff
protection. Good Man, when you yelled

620
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:58.800
for Allen after seeing that second dog
me and you said it started to Bob

621
00:44:58.840 --> 00:45:01.159
its head up and down. When
it was doing that, did you see

622
00:45:01.159 --> 00:45:07.519
if it had its mouth open or
closed? I believe it was closed.

623
00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:12.440
It was closed. I remember seeing
the nose and that I'm pretty sure the

624
00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:15.519
mouth was closed, and it was
just lifting it it's head up and down

625
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:17.880
like to me, it was saying
like, what's up? What's up?

626
00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:22.760
You see me? What? That's
the way I took it. And then

627
00:45:22.800 --> 00:45:24.960
Alan thought, no, you know, it's trying to pick up your scent.

628
00:45:25.320 --> 00:45:28.360
That's what I was trying to do. Like, oh, yeah,

629
00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:34.159
that's right, that's that makes sense. Yeah, that's a lot better than

630
00:45:34.159 --> 00:45:37.920
in asking you what's up. That's
the way I Yeah, that's the way

631
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:40.599
I was taking it. You know, you're seeing me what's up? You

632
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:45.920
know, and what of it?
You know? Like it was like that's

633
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:50.119
the way I got it. But
then Alan told me, now it's picking

634
00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:52.239
up trying to pick up your scent, and that made a lot of sense.

635
00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:58.800
Yeah it does. As you know, the symptoms you experienced sound an

636
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:04.920
awful lot like infra Sam. Do
you think Dogman can emit infra sound because

637
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:07.000
of that experience? Yes, I
believe so, and I believe sasquatch can

638
00:46:07.079 --> 00:46:13.320
too, and Can I go ahead
and tell you another story where one of

639
00:46:13.360 --> 00:46:17.480
the members got sick, please do
so. This particular night, it was

640
00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:22.599
we went to it's called Snake Road. Since I was a kid, I've

641
00:46:22.599 --> 00:46:28.719
heard of this road being haunted a
lot of paranormal activity. The people see

642
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:36.000
the la Yourna in Spanish, the
culture it's the weeping lady. They see

643
00:46:36.039 --> 00:46:39.719
her alongside this road at night.
And this particular night it was Alan,

644
00:46:40.119 --> 00:46:45.119
myself, Alan and his sus So
we got to this area, Snake Road,

645
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:50.840
and we weren't gonna walk this particular
stretch of the road, so we

646
00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:54.800
ended up walking this particular stretch of
the road. And it was about eleven

647
00:46:54.880 --> 00:47:00.440
thirty at night. It was in
November, so it was cold already,

648
00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:02.079
you know. We parked in side
of the road. We got our equipment

649
00:47:02.119 --> 00:47:07.000
together, all three of us,
and then uh, I locked up the

650
00:47:07.079 --> 00:47:13.679
vehicle. And before that, though, vic before I even parked, I

651
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:19.440
had the windows rolled down, and
I was hearing like yelling coming from across

652
00:47:19.639 --> 00:47:22.199
the one of the one on the
side of the the road, you know,

653
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:25.840
from this field. I was hearing
yelling, but it wasn't like people

654
00:47:27.119 --> 00:47:32.079
yelling. It wasn't people. It
was like it almost sounded like native talk

655
00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:37.679
to me. The guys couldn't hear
it. I heard it, and it

656
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:42.039
was like some sort of native talk, and it was kind of one was

657
00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:45.840
yelling to another one and they were
both responding back and forth. And I'm

658
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:50.119
telling the guys, do you guys
hear that? And they couldn't hear it.

659
00:47:50.840 --> 00:47:52.599
So I, well, I told
him, well, I'm gonna go

660
00:47:52.599 --> 00:47:54.079
ahead and park right here, because
you know, something's yelling out there,

661
00:47:55.079 --> 00:48:00.000
but I can tell it wasn't people, okay, And so I ended up

662
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:02.360
parking like I said, and we
got off fellow stuff together, and then

663
00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:07.639
his sus had to go to the
restroom. He had go number one,

664
00:48:07.719 --> 00:48:10.880
so he went across the street from
the side where I was hearing these screams,

665
00:48:10.920 --> 00:48:15.000
you know, these yelling. So
he went real quick and then he

666
00:48:15.159 --> 00:48:20.599
was done. So then we ended
up walking. Right like five minutes into

667
00:48:20.679 --> 00:48:25.800
our walk, we hear this loud
whistle. Now this when we heard this

668
00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:30.280
whistle, this whistle had like a
like a Somar effect to it. It

669
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:36.079
was it echoed throughout the whole area. And when I turned around to where

670
00:48:36.239 --> 00:48:42.519
I thought the sound was coming from, I remember a bright led blue light

671
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:46.440
in the sky, okay, and
all of us heard it. Alan heard

672
00:48:46.440 --> 00:48:49.800
it, and Sue's heard it.
We all heard it. We all turned

673
00:48:49.800 --> 00:48:53.440
around. We stopped it. Say
what the heck? It was a loud

674
00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:57.480
whistle and like I said, it
had like a solar effect to it,

675
00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:01.920
like a wave of effect to it
and throughout the whole area. So then

676
00:49:02.760 --> 00:49:07.119
we stopped for a bit just to
see if it happened again. Nothing happened.

677
00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:13.920
So then we go on walking down
the road again, and at this

678
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:17.000
time he Sue starts feeling sick.
He says, dude, I'm not I

679
00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:19.800
need to go to the restauran again. I like, okay, we'll go

680
00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:23.920
ahead and go real quick. So
he goes real quick and we're waiting for

681
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:29.159
him. So he comes back five
minutes down the road. Dude, I

682
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:31.199
gotta go again. It's like,
dude, I'm telling you suits are you

683
00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:35.280
okay? Because I don't know what
happened. Dude, I'm not feeling well.

684
00:49:35.320 --> 00:49:39.519
He goes, I'm disoriented. I
need like I need to go all

685
00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:43.039
the time, Like I need to
go to the restaurant. You know,

686
00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:45.480
I just went right now. I
told him, Well, you want to

687
00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:46.679
do you want to take off.
He goes, no, no, this

688
00:49:46.840 --> 00:49:52.519
just keep going and see if it
goes away or whatever. So we keep

689
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:57.360
going walking down the road and about
every ten minutes five minutes, and Sue's

690
00:49:57.400 --> 00:50:00.440
had to go, like he had
the urge to go, but when it

691
00:50:00.760 --> 00:50:02.599
said nothing would happen, but he
had that urge to go, and he

692
00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:07.280
was still feeling disoriented, dizzy,
and then we finally said, you know

693
00:50:07.320 --> 00:50:09.599
what, let's just call it off. Dude, it's like this, just

694
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:13.559
get back in the car. Let's
go. And I had to take Alan

695
00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:16.039
back to Clovis, so we during
that time. You know, when we

696
00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:19.280
got back in the car, it
just said, dude, it's all right,

697
00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:21.840
dude, this is keep going.
Let's go to the bridge where you

698
00:50:21.880 --> 00:50:23.519
saw your dog man. Let's go
up there. But you know what,

699
00:50:23.599 --> 00:50:25.519
I need to go to the restroom. Can you go to the liquor store

700
00:50:25.519 --> 00:50:28.760
real quick, that's down that's close
by. And I go, yeah,

701
00:50:28.760 --> 00:50:34.480
that's fine. So we did that, and uh, you know, we

702
00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:36.639
went to the liquor store, he
did his stuff, and then he came

703
00:50:36.679 --> 00:50:38.079
back. I asked him, how
are you feeling? He goes, ah,

704
00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:43.840
I feel a little better, but
uh, I'm still dizzy. I'm

705
00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:47.559
disoriented. I can't keep my balance. So then I told him, you

706
00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:51.079
know what, it's just, let's
just call it a night. Dude,

707
00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:53.679
I go, you're not feeling well. So we ended up taking Alan home,

708
00:50:54.159 --> 00:51:00.639
which is about thirty minutes to Clovis
and and then coming back, his

709
00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:04.480
sus was still he only had a
headache now, so I ended up taking

710
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:07.719
him home. So when I got
to his house in Riatley, it was

711
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:13.599
about two thirty in the morning,
okay, And I told him, dude,

712
00:51:13.719 --> 00:51:15.119
are you feeling all right? He
goes, no, I'm still dizzy,

713
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:22.079
I'm disoriented, but the feeling of
going to the restroom that that's gone.

714
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:23.599
And I go, dude, you
want me to take you to the

715
00:51:23.599 --> 00:51:27.039
hospital. I'll take you to the
er. And he goes, no,

716
00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:29.519
no, I'll be all right.
I just I'll go home and I'll go

717
00:51:29.599 --> 00:51:32.000
lay down like all right. And
I remember it was two thirty in the

718
00:51:32.079 --> 00:51:36.679
morning. So I watched him.
He got off the vehicle, I watched

719
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:40.480
him open his door, he went
into the house, and then I took

720
00:51:40.519 --> 00:51:45.920
off. I watched him go in. So then the next morning, around

721
00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:50.320
ten o'clock, I called him to
see how he was doing, and The

722
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:52.639
first thing he tells me is like, hey, what time did you drop

723
00:51:52.679 --> 00:51:55.079
me off at the house? I
go, I dropped you off around two

724
00:51:55.159 --> 00:52:02.320
thirty in the morning. He goes, dude, remember anything. I remember

725
00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:09.239
his wife telling him what were you
Where were you being? And he's all,

726
00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:14.280
what are you talking about? It's
four thirty in the morning, four

727
00:52:14.400 --> 00:52:16.000
thirty. I go, No,
I didn't drop you off at four thirty

728
00:52:16.000 --> 00:52:19.159
in the morning. I dropped you
off at two thirty in the morning.

729
00:52:20.679 --> 00:52:23.719
So he he does not remember from
when I dropped him off when he went

730
00:52:23.760 --> 00:52:29.320
into the house till four thirty in
the morning. He has he doesn't remember

731
00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:34.880
anything. And he said he was
still feeling kind of dizzy, but but

732
00:52:35.039 --> 00:52:39.800
not as bad. So, yeah, we experienced some He experienced something that

733
00:52:40.599 --> 00:52:45.519
made him really sick that night,
and it was I believe it was that

734
00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:50.440
whistle, that frequency. It was
a frequency or something like I said,

735
00:52:50.599 --> 00:52:53.920
because I heard it and it had
like a sonar effect. And I tried

736
00:52:53.920 --> 00:53:00.840
to We had voice recorders going and
we had video going, and I tried

737
00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:07.199
I was reviewing the footage. The
camera barely picks it up. The sound

738
00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:12.239
as loud as that thing, that
sound was, it should be able to

739
00:53:12.239 --> 00:53:15.519
pick it up the camera, but
it didn't. You could barely hear it.

740
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:21.079
And that was like the volume was
full blast. And so then I

741
00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:24.079
had to put headphones on the voice
recorder to see if the voice recorder picked

742
00:53:24.079 --> 00:53:30.760
it up. The voice recorder you
can kind of hear it, but very

743
00:53:30.800 --> 00:53:34.440
faintly, and I had a you
know, I was trying to make it

744
00:53:34.480 --> 00:53:37.000
louder, trying to see if I
can hear it, and sure enough,

745
00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:40.239
I can hear it. But what
was happening. I was looping it back

746
00:53:40.599 --> 00:53:45.559
over and over and over because I
wanted to hear it, and that particular

747
00:53:45.639 --> 00:53:52.320
day when I was doing it that
night, I started getting sick. I

748
00:53:52.320 --> 00:53:57.760
couldn't control my bowels, I started
getting dizzy, I was getting nauseated,

749
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:05.000
and I was like that all night
until the next morning. I believe it

750
00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:07.400
was a Saturday night when it started. And then the next morning Sunday,

751
00:54:08.360 --> 00:54:14.840
I woke up still the same nauseated
dizzy, like real big time dizzy.

752
00:54:15.599 --> 00:54:19.360
I couldn't keep my balance. So
my wife said, I need to take

753
00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:23.199
you to er. I go,
no, just hold on, and so

754
00:54:23.360 --> 00:54:25.079
she goes, I want to make
you something to eat, something like and

755
00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:29.000
you know, something to eat.
Maybe that'll help. I go, okay,

756
00:54:29.039 --> 00:54:31.760
well, just give me some toast
or something. So I ended up

757
00:54:31.760 --> 00:54:37.280
eating. After I ate, I
got nauseated. I had to go outside

758
00:54:37.280 --> 00:54:43.119
and sit down for a bit.
I needed some fresh air. It kind

759
00:54:43.159 --> 00:54:46.440
of calmed down for a bit,
but would get up big time. I

760
00:54:46.559 --> 00:54:52.280
was dizzy again, heated again,
and then I go I maybe I told

761
00:54:52.280 --> 00:54:53.360
my wife I need to go take
a nap. So I took a nap.

762
00:54:54.719 --> 00:54:59.480
I woke up in the afternoon.
I think I took about a three

763
00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:05.679
hour nap and woke up and it
was about five, I believe, and

764
00:55:05.719 --> 00:55:08.119
I was still feeling the symptoms like
big times, Like man, I don't

765
00:55:08.119 --> 00:55:13.599
know what the heck's going on.
I was telling my wife I was fine,

766
00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:17.559
and so then come around I believe
it was around eight o'clock that that

767
00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:22.199
evening. She goes, I'm gonna
take it to er said no, no,

768
00:55:22.280 --> 00:55:24.599
just wait a minute. Just kept
telling her just wait a minute.

769
00:55:24.800 --> 00:55:31.400
And at that point, you know, I got really nauseous. And then

770
00:55:31.800 --> 00:55:37.679
I remember that I ended up saying
a prayer like if it was I remember

771
00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:42.000
saying a prayer to take any negativity
or any dark energy away from me.

772
00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:45.280
If if something's attacking me, to
take it away from me in Jesus' name.

773
00:55:46.079 --> 00:55:51.280
And at that point I had to
run to the to the toilet because

774
00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:53.880
I thought I was gonna throw up, and I ran through the toilet.

775
00:55:54.079 --> 00:56:00.440
I ended up just going but nothing
came out, and after that all the

776
00:56:00.440 --> 00:56:05.320
symptoms were gone. That was fine. Wow, that sure does sound like

777
00:56:05.360 --> 00:56:09.039
a spiritual attack. So yeah,
so I don't know if I got sick

778
00:56:09.079 --> 00:56:15.039
from listening to the audio something.
I'm pretty sure something attacked, you know,

779
00:56:15.440 --> 00:56:19.800
his suites. That what I got
attacked by just listening to the audio.

780
00:56:19.880 --> 00:56:22.119
So I don't know if it was
a frequency or infrasound. That's what

781
00:56:22.199 --> 00:56:25.119
we believe it might have been.
Yeah, it might have been there for

782
00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:29.800
sound, but maybe it was a
coincidence for something. If it was in

783
00:56:29.880 --> 00:56:32.760
for sound, it wouldn't explain it
just disappearing when you said that prayer.

784
00:56:34.840 --> 00:56:39.360
Yeah, that was I don't know. I have no idea what that it

785
00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:43.840
was. Something. We both got
sick. He lost time, like at

786
00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:50.199
least two hours. I don't know, but we always ask ourselves, do

787
00:56:50.239 --> 00:56:55.079
you think it was a certain type
of frequency it was an infrasound, And

788
00:56:55.119 --> 00:57:00.360
you know, we think back on
that night. You know, allan get

789
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:04.119
sick. We kept asking out and
he said he was fine. We think

790
00:57:04.199 --> 00:57:07.360
back at that night and when I
was hearing those screams, you know,

791
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:10.360
that yelling back and forth, and
we stopped there. They had sus had

792
00:57:10.360 --> 00:57:15.079
to go number one. You know, I think back, well, what

793
00:57:15.159 --> 00:57:19.000
do animals do to mark your territory? You know, what do dogs do?

794
00:57:20.280 --> 00:57:22.559
Male dogs, you know, the
mark the territory. I wonder if

795
00:57:22.599 --> 00:57:25.840
these guys, if there was a
dollar man or a sasquatch in that area

796
00:57:25.880 --> 00:57:30.519
where his sus went, and they
got upset and they attacked us through frequency.

797
00:57:30.559 --> 00:57:35.599
I mean, that's that's just a
theory that we have. If that's

798
00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:37.599
true, I don't know, but
that's a theory that we have that maybe

799
00:57:37.960 --> 00:57:44.760
it got upset that we were marking
at our territory, but it was theirs

800
00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:47.679
and they attacked us that way.
I don't know. Because dog man and

801
00:57:47.719 --> 00:57:52.920
sasquatch have been seen along that road, have been encountered along that road,

802
00:57:52.960 --> 00:57:58.199
that just might be what happened.
Yeah, maybe one was watching and saw

803
00:57:58.239 --> 00:58:01.119
him relieve himself and decide Zapia.
That just might be what happened. But

804
00:58:01.639 --> 00:58:06.320
I guess all we can do is
guess about it. What's almost come for

805
00:58:06.440 --> 00:58:08.000
us to get out of your hovey
ear. But before we do want to

806
00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:12.880
ask you two things. Number One, if anyone in your area has had

807
00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:15.320
a cryptid experience that they want to
report to you, how can they do

808
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:21.559
that? Just go to our YouTube
channel. We have all our information there,

809
00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:25.360
or you can email us. It's
crypted five five to nine at gmail

810
00:58:25.400 --> 00:58:29.599
dot com. You can get a
hold of us that way, or on

811
00:58:29.639 --> 00:58:34.880
Facebook it's crypted five five nine,
but the five five nine is Roman numerals.

812
00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:38.760
Facebook won't let me put the numbers
five five to nine for some reason.

813
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So just look for our logo on
Facebook, send me a friend request,

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and then I'll let you guys in. I'll accept your request, and

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then you can get a hold of
me through messengers through Facebook. Yeah,

816
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and what we'll do if you have
a concern or something about your area,

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if you're experiencing something around your prop, with your permission, will go out

818
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and look for evidence or listen to
your what's going on, and then we'll

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try to help you in any way
we can, or get you in touch

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with somebody that can help you.
Well, that's awfully good of you to

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do that. What areas do you
accept reports from? Though the Central Valley,

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which is Tillerry County, Fresno County, King's County, and Merced County.

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It's mostly the Central Valley. It's
between Bakersfield and I want to say

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Modesto. You cover quite a bit
of area well, Harvey here. I

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can't thank you enough for coming on
and sharing the details of those experiences with

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this and also telling us about your
research group. I appreciate it. Well,

827
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Thank you Vick for having us and
reaching out to us. We appreciate

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it. Thank you so much.
Well, you know you're welcome. Thanks

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again so much, and have a
great night. Mlis