At at. Tonight's guest is Javier founder of Cryptid five five nine. Javier,
Welcome to the show. Hello Vick, thank you, thank you for
having us well, thanks so much for coming on. We appreciate your time.
Javier, please give us a brief bio in yourself. Okay, grew
up in the California in the Central Valley, which is near Presnel, California.
I live in a small town which is thirty minutes east of Presnel,
California called Riatley, California, and we leave along the King's River. In
twenty seventeen, we heard about a family of sasquatch running around this Avocado Lake
area, which is about fifteen minutes north from where we live. And that's
how CRYPTI five Fight nine got started. We started going out there and we
started experiencing paranormal stuff, cryptied stuff, having encounters, and in twenty eighteen,
the YouTube channel got started after I had my dog run encounter. I
have myself had encounters black triangles, dog Man and other crypted stuff, and
we'll get into that, but you know, always had a excitement for the
paranormal and the scrypted stuff. You definitely don't let any grass grunder your feet.
You definitely get out there and beat the bushes a lot researching themselves.
We're going to talk about two encounters you've had already, but I'm pretty sure
it's just a matter of time for more follow yes, sir, Yeah,
Well when we go out there, I don't know what it is, vic.
You know, it seems like something's guiding us to these areas or we're
finding you know, the structures, and then we go and investigate these areas
and we come across them. Well, that sure does make it easy when
you don't have trouble finding them. What's that area around Reatley? Like,
I've never heard of the place? Really, California is a small egg community.
There's about four small towns about fifteen minutes away from each other, and
in between you got citrus orchards, you got tree fruit, grapevines. It's
agricultural community out here. And we're close to the hills. So we're close
to Sequoyo National Park, about an hour a ways, two hours away from
the seventy National Park, and about another hour away from King's Canyon National Park,
So we're close to the hills, like I said, And then you
know, it's just all ag agricultural land out here, citrus tree, fruit,
pistachios, little bit of everything. Sounds like a beautiful place. Yes,
sir, Yes it is. I believe it. In twenty eighteen,
you had your first dog mean encounter, before the moment you layt eyes on
that dog man. What are your thoughts about them? I had heard about
them, but I've never heard about them in our area here in California.
Never heard about them. But I did, you know, hear about them
in the Midwest, Wisconsin, Iowa, Ohio, all in that area,
the lbl one, you know, a Michigan, Michigan dog man. I
was familiar with the term dog man, but never heard, like I said,
never heard of it in our area. Never heard anybody have any encounters
of that. And just the Sasquatch, you know, the Bigfoot. But
that was the first time I heard bigfoot down in the valley floor, though
not in the mountains. We always thought they were up in the Sequoias or
Kings Canyon, Orsemity up in the mountains. But we started hearing that they
were down in the valley floor here along the King's River. We you think
about all the fruit trees and all the resources down there, in the valley.
It just makes sense that they'd be hanging around all the time down there,
exactly. And then prior to us starting the channel, we had a
pretty big fires up in the forest. A lot of the areas got burnt,
so you know, they could have pushed them down here and they followed
the river. I mean, this is what we think. They followed the
river down to the valley floor because the fire is pushing them down and then
they found all the food supply that's down here, so they might have ended
up just staying down here most of the year. Yeah, and they might
as well stay close to the food. Sounds like they have tons of it
down there, so why not, Yes, sir, it only makes sense
from what I understand. You saw a tiarosaur one time. What's the story
behind that. Yeah, So it's also in this down in the valley floor
near there's Avocado Lake area. This area is a hotspot for us. It's
one of our hotspots. We call it Skinwalker Branch, you know, because
it's similar activity as the one that's being showed on TV right now of the
series. They've had all this history of activity and this area is exactly the
same. There's a lot of utiful sidings up in this area, like against
Sasquatch, family of Sasquatch, a dog man. Now with my encounter,
and now terosaurs pterodactyl I believe it or not, we ended up sighting a
pterodactyl along this Kings River near a bridge, and prior to the signing,
we were hearing about other encounters that year, one near Rety, one near
Kingsburg, which is another small community. Like I said, that's about fifteen
minutes away from us, but it's all these communities are close to the Kings
River. So there was one encounter there, one in Reatley, and then
ours up in the Allacatta Lake area. Let's think about this. You've got
dogman, obviously, Sasquatch as well, and at least one Tira. So
it really does make you wonder what's not living in that valley exactly now,
yeah, exactly when I saw the dog man. You know, after that,
I believe everything exists. There's a possibility that everything exists. Vampires,
other different types of cryptis that we don't even know about, maybe a predator
type one like the movies. I'm hearing stories about one that's similar like that
that people are letting me know that are up in the hills. It's like,
okay, well, hey, it's a possibility. I saw what I
saw. Yeah, I'd say anything is a possibility. After having all of
those experiences, it's obvious that you don't frighten easily. But has anything ever
happened to you when you're out in the field researching that came close to driving
you out of research and cryptids all together? One time we went to check
out an area that we were seeing structures, but we went in there and
and all of us got sick, like we had headaches. All of a
sudden, we got headaches, uh, stomach aches, and we needed to
get out of there because it was just you know, I was tasting blood
in my mouth, and I don't know. I believe something was attacking us,
either by infrasound or maybe something spiritual. But that's the only place we
have experienced that. Yeah, I don't know what it was. Like I
said, it could have been infra sound or something spiritual was attacking us,
So we need to get out of there. I'm glad you did. That
would have driven almost anyone out. It really does make you wonder what was
going on there. Exactly, and I'll get into that. It kind of
connects to one of the dog man encounters areas, so I'll get into that.
When we talked about that, well, that sounds good. Yeah,
we'd love to hear more. If you've had a dog mean encounter would like
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bigfoot shows, please go to my Bigfoot Sighting dot com. You have friends
who've had dog mean encounters of their own, what can you tell us about
their encounters. One of my friends was able to encounter the dog man that
I encountered in the same area near Albocatta Lake, but at a different location.
This was actually his encounter was early in the morning and it was actually
behind Albocatta Lake and behind the citrus orchard, and he saw it in the
day and yeah, it freaked him out. There's actually a video out there
that they made on it. His encounter is that way, you guys can
see the area. It's under the YouTube channel squatch Zone, and I believe
it's a dog man encounter. The video's labeled dog Man Encounter. If it's
okay, I'm gonna post a link to that video in the description for tonight's
show. Sounds good, great, I'll do that then. All right,
Javier, please tell us about your encounters. Now, give us every last
detail that comes to mind. Sure. The dog man encounter that me and
my cousin experience was the June of twenty eighteen. Like I said, we
had heard about a family of sasquatch around Alvocado Lake, so we ended up
starting to go out there, me and my cousin, Jose. We went
up there. We had just recently purchased some night vision goggles and we wanted
to get a feel for them, so we wanted to try them out.
So we go up to past Avocado Lake, just a little north of there.
There's another park called Winton Park and there's a bridge and the Kings River
goes under that bridge, and then there's a turnout. So we park on
this turnout by the bridge and we get down get our stuff together. We
don't walk anywhere, we just get down off the van. We got our
night vision goggles and by the time we're getting there. It's already getting dark,
so that way we can start, you know, getting a feel for
these not vision goggles. So getting dark, and it's been about now,
about ten fifteen minutes that we've been there. So he gets up here and
I, you know, the night vision gogs, and I get the other
one, and he starts messing with one, and he's looking down down the
river bottom along the river bank, and I get the other one, and
I started looking at the mountain ridges in front of us and to the side
of us, and I'm trying to get a feel for it. And then
he tells me, hey, check this out. I noticed something down by
the river bank and there's a set of what looks like eye shine, you
know, a set of them, you know, total four. So two
creatures down there or whatever, rodents or you know, we don't know what
it is. So I look through his night vision goggles and sure enough,
if I see the eye shine, and they're stirring right it look like they're
staring right back at us. So it's like, okay, they're staring at
us. It's alretty dark, and I noticed that they're in some kind of
shrub, and I believe that it's a fig tree, but it's more like
a shrub. It grew like a shrub, not like a tree. So
they're like inside this fig shrub. And there's an old tree also there along
this river bank. So I thought them, okay, well keep an eye
on it. See what they do. If they blink then we know they
are eyes, or if they move around or whatever, just keep an eye,
you know, and watch it. So he's concentrated on that. Meanwhile,
I go back to my night vision goggles and I'm looking at the mountain
ridges in front of us and to the left of us, and then after
a bit, I lower my night vision goggles to my chest facing forward,
and then I looked to see what he's doing. And he's still concentrated on
that. He's trying to get, you know, trying to see what exactly
it is. So then on the side of my eye, when I'm looking
at him, on the side of my eye, you know, my peripheral
vision, I see a movement behind us, and so I turn around.
Remember I have my my night vision goggles on my chest, so I turn
behind us, and I see this huge creature coming down on all fours towards
us from running towards us along the ridge here behind us, and then it
stopped. All of a sudden, it stopped, and it stopped me and
got on two legs, you know. It got up on two legs,
and then it rose its arms in the air. And I'm looking at this
thing, and I'm thinking, man, I'm seeing the Sasquad. Just this
thing was massive. This thing was huge. It was at least eight to
ten feet tall. The chest was about four to five feet wide. It
was a human type body. I can see the arms, very muscular,
very all muscle. I can see the hands, human hands. I couldn't
see the face, so I couldn't see the head. It was all black.
I could just see the outline of all this this creature. So,
like I said, it got on two legs. It got up and then
it wave. It picked up its arms in the air, and then it
started waving them real quick, and then it went and dropped back down on
all fours. You know. It was on all fours again, and then
it started running along the ridge. So it started running on all fours along
the ridge while I was running. It was kind of weird when I was
observing this creature. You know. Meanwhile, I'm thinking to sasquatch. Okay,
the sasquat. I'm seeing the sasquatch. When it's running on all fours,
I noticed I had a bump behind the head, like a lion's maan
that had a bump. I couldn't tell if it had hair or anything,
but I just noticed that bump behind it while it was running on all fours.
And then, uh, it stopped. It stopped when it got to
this part of the mountain ridge where there's a crease. It stopped. But
let me go back real quick. As it was running, it was moving
kind of weird, you know. It was like, it's kind of it's
it's uh like if you draw the way I can tell you it is like
if you draw a cartoon on a little notebook in the corners of your notebook,
and then you flip through them, and then how it moves like that
the little cartoon, how it moves. That's how it was moving. As
it was running. It was like skipping like a man. It's hard to
say, like if you're watching the moving and it's kipping a film or a
piece of film, you know, like it's weird to explain it, but
I can only say, it's just like that notebook, you know when you
draw a cartoon and you flip through it. That's how it was moving.
And when it got to this certain part of this mountain where there was a
crease, it stopped and then it got on all twos again on two feet,
but this time it had its back towards me, and it rose its
arms again in the air and it grabbed down to the side of the hill
there. Now this time I can see it's back. His back went down
to a V shape, down to its tie. I mean, this thing
was muscular, like I can't you know. This thing was muscular, all
muscle. I can see the thighs were all muscle. I can see the
calves all muscle. Then it, like I said, it rose its arms
up to grab the side of the hill there. That's when I noticed the
hands again, the arms all muscle. But then I saw claws. I
saw claws at the at the fingertips. I was able to see claws.
So then it grabbed down to the side of the hill there, and then
it leaped up, you know, it brought its legs up, leaped up,
and then it did it again, rose its arms again, grabbed on
to the side of the ill, and at that time it turned its head.
When it was grabbing to the side of the hill, it turned its
head to the left, and that's when I noticed the snout it had.
The mouth was open. I can see the canines. I can see the
point of ears. And that's when I said to myself, what the heck
am I see? And it's not a sasquatch. This is a were wolf,
a dog man, a were wolf. There's a canine, a German
shepherd type head on it. And then it turned back. It got to
the top of the ridge. There it stayed low to the ground. As
it was going over the ridge, I noticed on its thighs like it had
ribbed shorts, because like you know, my head's telling me it has rib
shorts. That's what it looked like. It didn't have a tail. There
was no tail. I didn't notice the tail, but it did. I
could tell, Like on its legs it had like ribbed shorts, like the
like the denim when they're ribbed. It was dangling, that's what it looked
like. And then it went over the ridge and stayed loaded the ground inches
from the ground on all fours and it crawled over the ridge like a spider,
and very quick. And this thing with stealth never made a sound.
My cousin never even turned around. This thing was running and jumping and doing
whatever it was doing. He never heard it. He never turned around.
I never told him because I didn't want to break visual. I wanted to
remember everything, all the detail that I was, you know, I wanted
to collect all the detail and watch this thing where it was going. So
this thing was stealth, moved very fast for the size that it was very
quick. It was out of sight, you know, within a minute.
They did all that within the minute, I would say. You know,
after that creature went over the ridge there, I told my cousin, hey,
I just saw something. It wasn't a sasquatch. I thought it was
a sasquatch. It had a dog hit on it. It went over the
ridge there, and you know, we don't have anything to protect us from
that thing, whatever it was. And he was all upset because I didn't
tell him. I go, dude, I did not want to break visual.
I didn't know what this thing was gonna do. It could have easily
jumped from where it was at jump and landed right in between us and taking
us out if he wanted to. So I don't know if we scared it
or it just or it was, you know, upset that we got in
a way. Maybe he wanted to go to get water because it was in
the summer. It was in June, so it was hot out here in
this area. It was in the nineties at night, so it was in
the nineties ninety degree weather, so I mean, or it was after what
we were seeing down below. I don't know if it was its pups,
or it was sasquatch babies, or its food some type of food could be
wild bore. I don't know, but you know, like I said,
when he saw me turn around, it stopped and it rose its arms in
the air. So I don't know if it was trying to get my attention
or it was upset. I don't know, but luckily it didn't come after
us. And Vic you have a thumbnail on your YouTube channel that some now
that picture on your dog Man Encounters. That's how it looks. But this
thing was very muscular, more muscular, but exactly like that, like the
one you have, like the van housing wherewoll I would say the van housing.
We didn't stay very long after that, you know, I was just
waiting to hear a how after it went over the heads the ridge there and
I was just waiting to hear a oh, you know, and I was
out of there because dude, I was excited but scared at the same time
that I was able to witness this and lucky enough, you know that it
didn't attack us or anything. But I didn't growl at us. It didn't
growl at me. When I was watching that, I didn't hear any growling
or anything like that. Just it just took off. Like I said to
me, it was to get out of you. But yeah, it was
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day, we ended up going back in the day, but no, it
wasn't with my cousin. It was the other member, good friend sus.
We went there because I had told him what I saw and he wanted to
go out there. There's got to be prints out there, There's got it,
And I go, yeah, I know, there's got to be prints.
So we went out there, and sure enough, we ended up finding
a print on that turnout that we were parked on. And remember the turnout,
it's all compacted dirt. It's next to the road. So we ended
up finding this print. So whatever made this print had a wait to it.
And I invite you to go to our YouTube channel cryptid five five nine
and go look at the video, because we shot the video at the location.
It's called my dong Man Encounter. And in that video you'll see the
picture of the print that we found. Now where it was running, the
mountain ridge where it was running, that's all private property. We cannot go
in there. I've asked around there, like the locals, like who owns
the property. Nobody knows. They just know that they're on horseback. They
see them on horseback with rifles. It's cattle land, so that they don't
They said that they don't like anybody in their property, want nobody in there,
so we don't. You know, we respect that. We don't go
in until we talk to the owner and get permission, but so far we
haven't got permission to get back in there. The second one was about a
year later. The second dog Man encounter was at a different location. It
was on the outskirts of Clovis, California. Clovis is a neighbor to Fresnel,
California. It's a town neighboring Fresnel, California. So this was on
the outskirts of Clovis, California. Now, this particular area, I was
invited to go with one of my friends that lives out in Clovis, California,
and he had been called out to this area because somebody contacted him that
something was stealing their sheep. And they contacted him because they knew that he
kind of investigated cryptid encounters or you know, investigated this type of stuff.
So they contacted him and he ended up telling me, you know, let's
go out to this syria and I'll tell you where we found him. We
found the sheep. Okay. So I go without with him and it was
just me and him drive out there. We park along this busy road.
It's an eucalyptus island. I call it eucalyptus tree island. A bunch of
eucalyptus trees in there, and it's surrounded by citrus orchards and also across the
street is more citrus orchards. So we go. We park right there by
the Eucalyptus Island and we get down. We start walking in there, and
he's telling me the story of what happened, and you know, and we
you know, it's about a mile away from where the sheep were taken,
and we've ended up finding him here, and so he's showing me the area
and when we found he, when we found the sheep that were opened up
from the chest, you know, they were opened up from the chest and
all the inners were eating. And I'm just you know, I'm listening to
him and I'm saying, okay, and I'm looking around also trying to see
like if there's any type of structures or any footprints or anything else that you
know, you can come across. And I start noticing some structures, but
I also start getting a feeling that I need to go. Something's pulling me
I need to go to the opposite end of this island, this Cycalyptus tree
Island. And I'm telling my friend there, you know, I need to
go. Something telling me I need to go to the other side of this
island. He goes, okay, well, let's go. So we walked
to the other side of the island there and across the street there's a citrus
orchard and there's also a reservoir along the road. The reservoir is kind of
dry, but it's still muddy, and I told my friend, you know
what, if there's gonna be priants, we're going to find them in that
in that muddy area. So he goes, WHOA, let's go across.
So we ended up going across the street and we're looking at the reservoir trying
to see if we can find prints different kind of prants. We're seeing some
ones like possum or raccoon type, nothing big at that time. He ends
up going one direction and I go the opposite direction along the road, and
as I'm walking farther away from the reservoir, I noticed something on the avenue
on the outskirt of the orchard. And I noticed this thing on all fours
and it had a big head. First of all, I thought it was
a coyote at first, but then I'm looking at it. It had a
big head, it had no tail, so I go, it's not a
coyote. And then the color was off. This creature was orange yellowish color
and it had hair. I could see the hair. It was orange yellowish
color. It was skinny on all fours, and it had a big head,
like a big canine head, and I, what the heck? So
I'm looking at it, and then I noticed that on all fours it's about
four to five feet tall, and what the heck? And then the citrus
tree that it was next to, that one was at least six to eight
feet tall. It was almost half ways you know, on all four is
like what? So I tell my friend I go, hey, come over
here. You know, I'm still looking at the creature. I'm just yelling
it out, Hey, come over here, come this way. You see
what I'm seeing. And he's trying to get back to where I was at.
And meanwhile, this creature starts moving its head up and down, and
I'm telling my friends, hey, you're seeing this? Are you seeing this?
Do you see it? And he goes, I can't see it.
I'm trying to get to you. And by that time it turned around.
After it rose its head up and down and it turned around, I noticed
it had no tail again. Then it walked away, but when it walked
away, it walked kind of multi jointed. It walked off funky, and
it walked back into the orchards, went back into the orchards, and I
told him, did you see it? I told my friend did you see
it? He goes, no, I didn't see it. I wasn't able
to see it from where I was at, and he got there too late.
Oh dude, I don't know what that was. And I was telling
him what it looked like. And then I told him that I was raising
his head up and down. And then my friend said, well, you
know what he was doing, right, And I go no, what I
thought it was acknowledging that I was here. He goes, no, he
was trying to pick up your sin. And then that made a lot of
sense, and he goes okay, and I said okay, yeah, and
I go, well, walk back into the orchard. So meanwhile, like
I said, it was alongside this busy road and cars passing by left and
right, and then we're trying to hear, you know, cause we were
hearing branches breaking and leaves shuffling from inside the orchard, and it was getting
closer to us. We can't tell it was getting closer to us. And
I told him do you hear that? He goes, yeah, I'm hearing
that there's a lot of movement. It's coming closer to us. Well yeah,
And then when that happened, all of a sudden, I start tasting
metal in my mouth and my stomach started hurt bad. And I'm telling my
friend, hey, I'm feel too good. Now I'm starting to taste metal
in my mouth and my stomach's hurting. He goes, dude, I just
got a massive My friend said, I just got a massive headache. I
said, what the heck? So I'm thinking it's like dude, So then
I start I say a prayer of protection and it kind of relieved the symptoms
for a bit, and we started walking back towards the van along the orchard
there, and we still hear something moving coming closer to us. You know,
it's moving the branch. You can hear the branches, you can hear
the leaves on the ground. Something's moving and it's coming closer and closer.
So then we stop for a bit to hear again, and then I get
that pain again. I get the stomach pain again, and then I taste
that metal in my mouth again, and it's like, nah, it's like
somes. I told my friend, some's attacking us. Dude, he is
spiritual or it's infrasound, something's going on. And he goes, yeah,
I don't feel well. I have a massive headache, not feeling too good.
I go now, let's just get the heck out of here. I
don't know what this thing was. It looked like a canine. Ish.
Did your friend ever go out into the bush with you after that experience?
Oh yeah, he's been back out with me. Yeah, we go out.
He invites me out all the time, and we always go out.
He sure doesn't frighten easily, does he. No, he doesn't. He's
had a sasquatch encounter that lasted about two hours, so he's he's uh,
he's good. He doesn't get fighting very well, real easy. Yeah,
i'd say he doesn't. Is that Alan that you're talking about, Yes,
sir, I'm talking about Alan Thomas, Yes, sir. Well, yeah,
no, wonder he didn't frighten easily. Huh. How far is Avocada
Lake from where you live? Javier? Avocado Lake is about fifteen minutes north
of Reatley for where we lives, about fifteen minutes away, not very far.
Yeah, that is close. If it's so close. When we had
that first encounter. Do you have any concerns about that dog man following you
home? You know, I've heard of stories of people saying that they follow
you home, but so far I haven't. I haven't experienced anything here at
the house. I do pray. I do pray. I'm gonna say,
I do pray for nothing negative or any dark or negative to be allowed on
this property. I do pray at night, and so far, you know,
I haven't had any issues. And I want to also say, we
have another hotspot area just outside of Reatley, outside of town. There's a
few of them, and they're just outside of town, our town, and
they're around there, vic they're close to towns. People don't understand that these
things are just outside your town, but sometimes they're running in town. I'm
here and I'm hearing stories of the people that they've seen them running in town
at night. They call them shadows, but they believe it's a sasquatch or
the dog man. Oh sure, Well, towns are where all the resources
are, well not all the resources, but a lot of resources, so
it only makes sense that they would come into town and hang out on the
outskirts. YEP. When that big dog man came toward you and started waving
its arms over its head. What do you think that was all about?
You know? And now I think about it, I don't know, like
I said, like, I still think about it, and I don't know
if it was just trying to get my attention or it was upset. I
don't I don't know, you know, like I said, I don't know
if it was it was upset that we got in its way. It was
going towards the river. I just don't know. I don't know what that
meant. They do some strange things sometimes. Yeah, then I think about
it. Well, whenever reacted like it took off like it was afraid of
me. So it's but at first, you know, I thought I was
trying to sneak up on us, because, like I said, it was
stealth. It didn't make any sound, it didn't make any noise at all.
And then it acted like, well, I ran away from us,
and it went over the ridge all fast, you know, staying lowd to
the ground like a spider and crawled over the ridge. I mean, yeah,
it's I don't know. Yeah, Like I can only say that I
did have my night vision goggles on my chest, and they were facing it,
so it was facing forward. So I don't know. If it's all
the infrared on my chest, maybe that scared it away. I don't know.
I'm pretty sure they can see the infrared on these night vision goggles.
That might be what was going on. But if it was as big as
you say it was, I have some serious doubts about actually being afraid of
you. I don't think that was the case at all. Yeah, and
that's what I hear that these things aren't the dog Man. They're not afraid
of anything, So I have no idea. Yeah, normally they're not.
How close did it get to you before it turned and ran away, Well,
it was at least twenty to twenty five yards from us. It was
very close. The street was between us the road, and it's a two
lane road, so not very far. So I was able to see it,
and we were. We should have been able to hear noise like as
it was running and it breathing or doing, you know, we should have
been able to hear something, and we didn't hear nothing. Nothing. It
didn't make a sound. And this thing was solid. It wasn't like an
apparition like the ghost. It was not. I could not see through it.
It blocked out everything behind it. It was solid, and then I
can see that when we went back the next day, I can see on
that ridge where it grabbed an I can see it. But we could,
like I said, we could. We didn't want to go in there without
permission, and I'm pretty sure there it would have been more prints up there
if we would have gone in. But I didn't want to get in there
and get shot at because these guys were carry rifles. Yeah, that's the
case. I don't blame you for not going in. Yeah, you told
us about the strange way it was moving as it was heading away from you.
Did it look awkward in its movements or just jerky? Is it moved
away when it was running. Yeah, it was like like it was missing
frames, Like I'm watching a movie and it's missing frames. It was.
It was weird, like it was like, I don't it's hard to explain,
like it's missing frames, like it's skipping, skipping the frame as it
was running. When it stopped and grabbed down to the side of the hill
that went away that part, it wasn't skipping the frame no more. It
was like it was there like right there, and it was doing all this
thing grabbed down to the side of the hill and going up. But yeah,
but as it was running towards, you know, sideways on all fours,
it like it was moving like almost like gliding, but skipping the frame.
And man, I don't know, it's kind of weird. I can
only explain it, like I said, like when you draw a little cartoon
on the corner of a notebook and you flip them. That's how it looked.
That's a good way to describe it, because it definitely paints the picture.
Could you tell if it ran with its knuckles in the ground when it
went on to all fours or its palms. No, I could not see
the feet, and I couldn't see the when it was on all fours.
I couldn't see the feet of the hands. I could not I could just
see the arms and the legs and the rest of the body. Oh,
that's all right. You can only see what you can see. Yeah,
it sounds like you got a pretty good look at its ears. How tall
would you say they were? The ears were about maybe about twelve inches,
maybe a little bit more. It looked pretty big. And then the snout
was at least about let me see about a little bit more than twelve inches,
maybe a foot and a half. And the canines, I mean I
saw the canines. I saw all four of them because they had its mouth
open and it looked like a German shepherd bout it, you know, that's
what it had. But this thing was massive, Like I said, it
was huge. It was eight to ten feet tall and the chest part was
at least four to five feet wide. All muscle, all muscle. That
it reminds me of the Van Helsing the movie Van Heusing that werewolf in there.
It's very close to that, very close. It must have been something
to see. You said that you saw what looked like rip red shorts on
it. How sure are you that it wasn't something else though? You know,
in my mind that's what my mind was telling me, it has ribed
shorts. When I was observing this thing, you know, I was seeing
the thighs, all the muscle, and then I saw like what was dangling
down was like like it had denim ribed shorts, and that's what it looked
like. And that's when my mine was telling me that's what it was registering,
is that it's rip shorts. I mean it could have been hair,
I guess, but I didn't see any other hair at the time, you
know, I didn't see any what looked like hair. I mean, it
could have been hair, as wide as it was and as big as it
was. I don't want to jump to conclusions here, but would you say
that it was too big to wear any conventional red shorts that you'd ever be
able to go into a store and buy. Yeah, and that's the thing.
Yeah, that's what I thought. So I don't know if this thing
is interdimensional. I don't That's where you want to start asking yourself questions.
Are these things interdimensional or do they have they always been here? You don't
know. I don't know. Yeah, as big as that one was,
I've got the King size catalog right here for clothing and everything that I get,
and I don't think I've ever seen any shorts in the area that would
have fit this guy from what you described him, right, How rattled was
your cousin from that experience? Well, he he wasn't rattled, you know,
he was just excited that at what I saw, But he was upset
that I didn't tell him so he can turn around. But like I said,
I didn't want to break visual. I wanted to see because this thing
was moving fast, so I wanted to make sure I didn't break visual.
I want to remember everything that I possibly can and all the detail. But
I told him let's go, let's go, and he's like, wait a
minute. Wait, you know, he wanted to stay longer. He's like,
wait, wait, I go, dude. We don't got anything to
protect ourselves from that thing. All we had was something like close range.
You know, if this, if this thing comes close to us, he's
gonna take us out. It's not that we didn't get out of here,
dude, after what I saw. It's like, no, uh uh,
we don't have anything to protect ourselves from it. And I don't know if
it'll come back with another one. You know, you never know, you
know, because there'd be another one behind the ridge. I don't know.
Yeah, that could be. That's in the realm of possibility. We said
that didn't rattle him or anything. But has he gone out researching with you
since that experience. Yeah, he loves this stuff. So oh jose and
his suse love this stuff. So they go out. Yeah, we all
go out, which we usually go out late in the evening about nine thirty
till about eleven thirty. Sometimes we SkyWatch. We do a little bit of
everything SkyWatch. We listen during the day. We out explore areas in the
day where if there's an area that I noticed structures or we'll go out and
explore if we can get in there, We'll go out and explore that area.
And usually we capture stuff in the photos. You know they're there,
And I invite your audience to go check out our channel again and go look
at our videos. You know, we have videos with the photos that we've
possibly captured Cryptis in there and you see a dog man possibly on two of
them, and we have one with the sasquatch possibly in the background. Like
I said earlier, I'm going to post a link to your chinnel on that
description for tonight's show. That'll make it really easy to find. When you
had your second encounter, Hovier, did that dog look like a smaller version
of the big one you saw in twenty eighteen, except skinnier or did it
seem to be a different type of dog man? I would say it was
a different time. Vic. Yeah, it was not very muscular. It
was about four to five feet on all fours and it had no musk.
I didn't notice any muscle on the arms or the legs. It was just
skinny. But it did have hair, you know. I was able to
see the hair, and it was orange yellowish, and it had a big
canine head on it, you know, and it wasn't a horse, and
it wasn't a coyote. They didn't have a tail. There was no tail.
I couldn't see the ears by know, it had a snout and the
head looked like a canine, but it was the head was bigger than you
know, it didn't fit his body. It was kind of weird, like
that type of head size. It should have fit that body on it,
but it looked kind of weird. And then when it walked away, when
it turned around, it walked like it had multi joints. And it's kind
of you know, I walked off funky like, oh, you know,
like that's a that's an easy ass I can explain to you. It had
like multi it was multi jointed or something. And it walked away into the
orchard no care in the world, like walking away all multi jointed. And
then it went into the orchard, and then we started getting sick. So
it's like, I don't know what this was. I know it had like
a canine type head on it, though I don't know. That is really
strange. I wonder what that was all about. I have no idea.
And then I told my friend, you know what I saw, and he
goes, that could be the one that's been taking the sheep from the the
property owner that was about a mile away. I well, yeah, I
mean, I mean, I'm telling you what I saw. He believed me.
You know, we were both there. We were experiencing both you know,
he just didn't see it, but he was hearing all the shuffling and
the leaves moving in the in the orchard, and then we both got sick.
You know, we weren't feeling good. He said, he didn't get
the best look at its face, But were you able to make out enough
details to be able to tell if it was perturbed at you, or if
it was neutral, or what kind of a mood it was in. It
looked like it wasn't afraid and it was just curious about us. That's what
I got the sense of. It wasn't afraid of us, but it was
curious to know why we were there. Or something. You know, that's
the feeling I got. And then as I was getting it was, you
know, we think it was getting closer to us. That's what it was.
It was curious, But then it was also I don't know, there's
if it sent infrasound or something spiritual, it has ability to attack you spiritually.
I don't know. But yeah, like I said, we weren't feeling
very well. And then I went back a second time, but without Alan.
Alan didn't go that time. I went back to do a video to
do the to do an encounter video there, and I couldn't do it.
I started feeling sick again and we had to leave until the third time.
Then I went out there A year or two later. I went out there
for the third time and I was able to do the video. I didn't
get sick that time, but I didn't. Also, we didn't see anything.
We did notice structures in the in the Eucalyptus island tree limbs that had
been moved and they're pretty big. They'd been moved around, but prince.
We didn't find any Prince. But at that time I was able to do
the video. But like I said, it's kind of hard because It's a
busy road going into Clovis and there's always powers passing by, so it's pretty
loud, you know the car's going by. So I did the best I
can to do the video. But that time I didn't get sick or anything.
Well, thank goodness for that. Do you remember after getting sick like
that, if it took you a sleep cycle to start feeling better or how
long did it take you to recover? As soon as we left that area,
vic I started feeling better and he did also. So that's why we
say something was attacking spiritually. It attacked us somehow and for Sounder spiritually,
because before that we were fine. Before we even't got there, we were
fine, both of us, and as soon as we left, the symptoms
went away. Even when I got home, you know, I didn't feel
that those symptoms anymore. I'm glad you're able to recover so quickly then.
Yeah, But like I said, I did, you know, I prayed
a couple of times for protection, and I believe I'm very spiritual, so
I believe in my God and stuff protection. Good Man, when you yelled
for Allen after seeing that second dog me and you said it started to Bob
its head up and down. When it was doing that, did you see
if it had its mouth open or closed? I believe it was closed.
It was closed. I remember seeing the nose and that I'm pretty sure the
mouth was closed, and it was just lifting it it's head up and down
like to me, it was saying like, what's up? What's up?
You see me? What? That's the way I took it. And then
Alan thought, no, you know, it's trying to pick up your scent.
That's what I was trying to do. Like, oh, yeah,
that's right, that's that makes sense. Yeah, that's a lot better than
in asking you what's up. That's the way I Yeah, that's the way
I was taking it. You know, you're seeing me what's up? You
know, and what of it? You know? Like it was like that's
the way I got it. But then Alan told me, now it's picking
up trying to pick up your scent, and that made a lot of sense.
Yeah it does. As you know, the symptoms you experienced sound an
awful lot like infra Sam. Do you think Dogman can emit infra sound because
of that experience? Yes, I believe so, and I believe sasquatch can
too, and Can I go ahead and tell you another story where one of
the members got sick, please do so. This particular night, it was
we went to it's called Snake Road. Since I was a kid, I've
heard of this road being haunted a lot of paranormal activity. The people see
the la Yourna in Spanish, the culture it's the weeping lady. They see
her alongside this road at night. And this particular night it was Alan,
myself, Alan and his sus So we got to this area, Snake Road,
and we weren't gonna walk this particular stretch of the road, so we
ended up walking this particular stretch of the road. And it was about eleven
thirty at night. It was in November, so it was cold already,
you know. We parked in side of the road. We got our equipment
together, all three of us, and then uh, I locked up the
vehicle. And before that, though, vic before I even parked, I
had the windows rolled down, and I was hearing like yelling coming from across
the one of the one on the side of the the road, you know,
from this field. I was hearing yelling, but it wasn't like people
yelling. It wasn't people. It was like it almost sounded like native talk
to me. The guys couldn't hear it. I heard it, and it
was like some sort of native talk, and it was kind of one was
yelling to another one and they were both responding back and forth. And I'm
telling the guys, do you guys hear that? And they couldn't hear it.
So I, well, I told him, well, I'm gonna go
ahead and park right here, because you know, something's yelling out there,
but I can tell it wasn't people, okay, And so I ended up
parking like I said, and we got off fellow stuff together, and then
his sus had to go to the restroom. He had go number one,
so he went across the street from the side where I was hearing these screams,
you know, these yelling. So he went real quick and then he
was done. So then we ended up walking. Right like five minutes into
our walk, we hear this loud whistle. Now this when we heard this
whistle, this whistle had like a like a Somar effect to it. It
was it echoed throughout the whole area. And when I turned around to where
I thought the sound was coming from, I remember a bright led blue light
in the sky, okay, and all of us heard it. Alan heard
it, and Sue's heard it. We all heard it. We all turned
around. We stopped it. Say what the heck? It was a loud
whistle and like I said, it had like a solar effect to it,
like a wave of effect to it and throughout the whole area. So then
we stopped for a bit just to see if it happened again. Nothing happened.
So then we go on walking down the road again, and at this
time he Sue starts feeling sick. He says, dude, I'm not I
need to go to the restauran again. I like, okay, we'll go
ahead and go real quick. So he goes real quick and we're waiting for
him. So he comes back five minutes down the road. Dude, I
gotta go again. It's like, dude, I'm telling you suits are you
okay? Because I don't know what happened. Dude, I'm not feeling well.
He goes, I'm disoriented. I need like I need to go all
the time, Like I need to go to the restaurant. You know,
I just went right now. I told him, Well, you want to
do you want to take off. He goes, no, no, this
just keep going and see if it goes away or whatever. So we keep
going walking down the road and about every ten minutes five minutes, and Sue's
had to go, like he had the urge to go, but when it
said nothing would happen, but he had that urge to go, and he
was still feeling disoriented, dizzy, and then we finally said, you know
what, let's just call it off. Dude, it's like this, just
get back in the car. Let's go. And I had to take Alan
back to Clovis, so we during that time. You know, when we
got back in the car, it just said, dude, it's all right,
dude, this is keep going. Let's go to the bridge where you
saw your dog man. Let's go up there. But you know what,
I need to go to the restroom. Can you go to the liquor store
real quick, that's down that's close by. And I go, yeah,
that's fine. So we did that, and uh, you know, we
went to the liquor store, he did his stuff, and then he came
back. I asked him, how are you feeling? He goes, ah,
I feel a little better, but uh, I'm still dizzy. I'm
disoriented. I can't keep my balance. So then I told him, you
know what, it's just, let's just call it a night. Dude,
I go, you're not feeling well. So we ended up taking Alan home,
which is about thirty minutes to Clovis and and then coming back, his
sus was still he only had a headache now, so I ended up taking
him home. So when I got to his house in Riatley, it was
about two thirty in the morning, okay, And I told him, dude,
are you feeling all right? He goes, no, I'm still dizzy,
I'm disoriented, but the feeling of going to the restroom that that's gone.
And I go, dude, you want me to take you to the
hospital. I'll take you to the er. And he goes, no,
no, I'll be all right. I just I'll go home and I'll go
lay down like all right. And I remember it was two thirty in the
morning. So I watched him. He got off the vehicle, I watched
him open his door, he went into the house, and then I took
off. I watched him go in. So then the next morning, around
ten o'clock, I called him to see how he was doing, and The
first thing he tells me is like, hey, what time did you drop
me off at the house? I go, I dropped you off around two
thirty in the morning. He goes, dude, remember anything. I remember
his wife telling him what were you Where were you being? And he's all,
what are you talking about? It's four thirty in the morning, four
thirty. I go, No, I didn't drop you off at four thirty
in the morning. I dropped you off at two thirty in the morning.
So he he does not remember from when I dropped him off when he went
into the house till four thirty in the morning. He has he doesn't remember
anything. And he said he was still feeling kind of dizzy, but but
not as bad. So, yeah, we experienced some He experienced something that
made him really sick that night, and it was I believe it was that
whistle, that frequency. It was a frequency or something like I said,
because I heard it and it had like a sonar effect. And I tried
to We had voice recorders going and we had video going, and I tried
I was reviewing the footage. The camera barely picks it up. The sound
as loud as that thing, that sound was, it should be able to
pick it up the camera, but it didn't. You could barely hear it.
And that was like the volume was full blast. And so then I
had to put headphones on the voice recorder to see if the voice recorder picked
it up. The voice recorder you can kind of hear it, but very
faintly, and I had a you know, I was trying to make it
louder, trying to see if I can hear it, and sure enough,
I can hear it. But what was happening. I was looping it back
over and over and over because I wanted to hear it, and that particular
day when I was doing it that night, I started getting sick. I
couldn't control my bowels, I started getting dizzy, I was getting nauseated,
and I was like that all night until the next morning. I believe it
was a Saturday night when it started. And then the next morning Sunday,
I woke up still the same nauseated dizzy, like real big time dizzy.
I couldn't keep my balance. So my wife said, I need to take
you to er. I go, no, just hold on, and so
she goes, I want to make you something to eat, something like and
you know, something to eat. Maybe that'll help. I go, okay,
well, just give me some toast or something. So I ended up
eating. After I ate, I got nauseated. I had to go outside
and sit down for a bit. I needed some fresh air. It kind
of calmed down for a bit, but would get up big time. I
was dizzy again, heated again, and then I go I maybe I told
my wife I need to go take a nap. So I took a nap.
I woke up in the afternoon. I think I took about a three
hour nap and woke up and it was about five, I believe, and
I was still feeling the symptoms like big times, Like man, I don't
know what the heck's going on. I was telling my wife I was fine,
and so then come around I believe it was around eight o'clock that that
evening. She goes, I'm gonna take it to er said no, no,
just wait a minute. Just kept telling her just wait a minute.
And at that point, you know, I got really nauseous. And then
I remember that I ended up saying a prayer like if it was I remember
saying a prayer to take any negativity or any dark energy away from me.
If if something's attacking me, to take it away from me in Jesus' name.
And at that point I had to run to the to the toilet because
I thought I was gonna throw up, and I ran through the toilet.
I ended up just going but nothing came out, and after that all the
symptoms were gone. That was fine. Wow, that sure does sound like
a spiritual attack. So yeah, so I don't know if I got sick
from listening to the audio something. I'm pretty sure something attacked, you know,
his suites. That what I got attacked by just listening to the audio.
So I don't know if it was a frequency or infrasound. That's what
we believe it might have been. Yeah, it might have been there for
sound, but maybe it was a coincidence for something. If it was in
for sound, it wouldn't explain it just disappearing when you said that prayer.
Yeah, that was I don't know. I have no idea what that it
was. Something. We both got sick. He lost time, like at
least two hours. I don't know, but we always ask ourselves, do
you think it was a certain type of frequency it was an infrasound, And
you know, we think back on that night. You know, allan get
sick. We kept asking out and he said he was fine. We think
back at that night and when I was hearing those screams, you know,
that yelling back and forth, and we stopped there. They had sus had
to go number one. You know, I think back, well, what
do animals do to mark your territory? You know, what do dogs do?
Male dogs, you know, the mark the territory. I wonder if
these guys, if there was a dollar man or a sasquatch in that area
where his sus went, and they got upset and they attacked us through frequency.
I mean, that's that's just a theory that we have. If that's
true, I don't know, but that's a theory that we have that maybe
it got upset that we were marking at our territory, but it was theirs
and they attacked us that way. I don't know. Because dog man and
sasquatch have been seen along that road, have been encountered along that road,
that just might be what happened. Yeah, maybe one was watching and saw
him relieve himself and decide Zapia. That just might be what happened. But
I guess all we can do is guess about it. What's almost come for
us to get out of your hovey ear. But before we do want to
ask you two things. Number One, if anyone in your area has had
a cryptid experience that they want to report to you, how can they do
that? Just go to our YouTube channel. We have all our information there,
or you can email us. It's crypted five five to nine at gmail
dot com. You can get a hold of us that way, or on
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Facebook won't let me put the numbers five five to nine for some reason.
So just look for our logo on Facebook, send me a friend request,
and then I'll let you guys in. I'll accept your request, and
then you can get a hold of me through messengers through Facebook. Yeah,
and what we'll do if you have a concern or something about your area,
if you're experiencing something around your prop, with your permission, will go out
and look for evidence or listen to your what's going on, and then we'll
try to help you in any way we can, or get you in touch
with somebody that can help you. Well, that's awfully good of you to
do that. What areas do you accept reports from? Though the Central Valley,
which is Tillerry County, Fresno County, King's County, and Merced County.
It's mostly the Central Valley. It's between Bakersfield and I want to say
Modesto. You cover quite a bit of area well, Harvey here. I
can't thank you enough for coming on and sharing the details of those experiences with
this and also telling us about your research group. I appreciate it. Well,
Thank you Vick for having us and reaching out to us. We appreciate
it. Thank you so much. Well, you know you're welcome. Thanks
again so much, and have a great night. Mlis