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You know, I know you later
aged handle most of what was the most

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important thing or things for you in
this negotiation process to get in the still

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done. It was mostly security.
I think, you know, you can

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go back and forth on the numbers
and whatnot, and that wasn't really the

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thing that was was ever something I
was extremely concerned with. It was the

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security and you know, the no
trade clause and all that stuff. Knowing

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that all that was in there and
feeling secure and then you know, knowing

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that I can now put that behind
me and be excited about what's to come.

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Jared Goff talking to the media the
other day, good question by Justin

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Rodgers and Detroit. Do what was
the most important thing? And I think

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a lot of people might be really
surprised to find out about the no trade,

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the security he's got, the financial
security. I mean, it's a

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four year, two hundred and twelve
million dollar deal, it's a seventy three

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million dollar signing bonus. It's the
largest in NFL history. He's the second

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highest paid player, not just quarterback, but player per year, behind Joe

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Burrow. But to hear a professional
athlete, look, I think there's a

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there's a misconception by many that free
agents don't want to come here, athletes

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don't want to come here, and
by here, I mean Detroit, which

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is really a reflection on the entire
state of Michigan. I think that's bull

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crap. First of all, they're
going to go to where the money is,

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we know that, and a chance
to win all at once. But

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I would tell you in my conversations
with not all, because not even you

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love every place you've been, But
the conversation with most professional athletes when they

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get here is very positive. They
like it here a lot. They like

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the people, they like the area, and they like the fact that people

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care. So I think there's a
little bit of a sorry free agents,

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they're not coming to Detroit. You're
going to have to overpay them. And

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then they give the example of Ivon
Pudge Rodriguez. There's plenty of athletes who

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have come here, probably with the
mindset of oh boy, I gotta go

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to Detroit, and then they get
here and they're like, hey man,

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this is really cool. I was
only here as a visiting player. I

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like it a lot more. I
had a player for the Lions once tell

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me he signed here because while he
was getting a tour of the facility and

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the stadium. The organization took his
wife to various places in Metro Detroit,

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including a very high end mall.
They returned to Alan Park and the practice

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facility and she said, sign here, this place is great. It's very

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comfortable. He did, and he
hasn't left. That's not the experience for

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everybody. I'm not suggesting it is. I'm just letting you know. It

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says something. I think it says
something about Jared Goff. It says something

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about the NFL, says something about
the Detroit Lions. That says something about

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you and the state of Michigan.
That Jared Goff, who once was a

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Ram. Look, he played his
college ball at cal You know that as

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well as I do, Right,
Okay, you know that most people love

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Los Angeles or love California. Not
necessarily me, but most people will go

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out there. Oh, I love
the sun, I love the beaches and

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blah blah blah blah. Right,
so they're going to want to how can

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you say no to it. I
remember going to UCLA's campus for the first

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time, and I was fortunate,
really fortunate because a friend of mine,

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Bill Clark, and I were getting
ready to call Michigan UCLA. We get

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a tour of the campus with John
Wooden. It was awesome. But with

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Jared Goff, I mean, here's
a guy who goes to you know,

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he's from California or in Catholic high
school in California. He goes to cal

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he gets drafted by the Rams.
First over, life has got to be

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good. And then what happens,
Well, he signs an extension. Seventeen

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months after that, he gets traded
to Detroit. And I'm sure the thought

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process right away for him and his
family, anybody close to him is like,

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oh man, what a stark contrast. You're going from sandy beaches and

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eighty degree weather. Sure, more
traffic, but you're going to a place

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where it's blue collar. Bring your
snowshoes, bring your winter jacket, make

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sure someone's there to help you shovel
the driveway. Who knows. Look how

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he's turned out for him, Look
how he's enjoyed it. And remember,

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his first year wasn't good, not
as much personally as team wise. As

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a starter for Detroit, he went
three ten and one his first year,

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only played fourteen of the sixteen games
because of the injury. Then it starts

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to turn the corner a little bit, and by the end of twenty twenty

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two, how many people were going, Yes, I really like it here.

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He's appreciated here, I think as
study and warm and pleasant. In

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certain areas as California may be,
do they truly care about their athletes?

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In the state of Michigan, they
do. He senses it. He's not

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the only athlete who senses it.
Plenty before him, any playing with him,

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and plenty after him already have that
sense. But you should feel good

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that one of the most important athletes
in this town. Whether you like him

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or not, whether you think the
contract was right or not, he's important.

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I know there's plenty of you who
think anybody could do what he does.

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That's not true, as you just
heard with what we said in our

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interview with Colton Pouncy. Everyone thinks
you can just take one piece out and

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replace it with somebody who's less experienced. It's kind of like the Tigers situation

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that we'll get into at the bottom
of the hour. Just take this guy

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out and put the other guy in. What's the goal? The goal is

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to win it all. Now you've
set yourself up you set yourself up that

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if you don't get that championship,
especially within the next couple of years,

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it's not going to look great.
But the goal is to get there and

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win it. Can you do that
with just a plug in person because you're

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a little frustrated, disappointed and unsure
of the contract, not with the options,

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not with Ryan Tannehill, not with
Hendon Hooker, with a high end

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guy, You're damn right, But
he could do that with a lot of

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other teams. Do you think remember
our conversation yesterday. Our conversation was when

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I said, how many players on
my team are wanted by the opposing coacher

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manager? Remember when I was talking
about that's kind of how I look at

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teams. How many of those guys
do I want? I was watching Phillies

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and Mets a little bit last night, and I thought to myself, there's

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a lot of guys on those two
teams I'd want, especially the Phillies.

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There's a lot of teams in the
NFL that would love to have Jared Goff.

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They may have to adjust their system
a little bit. You wouldn't be

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able to run certain things that a
team may run now like Buffalo Josh Allen.

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But there's a lot of teams that
would like him, and he likes

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you, and there's something to be
said for that because he got the no

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trade clause and that was most important. He had other things to say,

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that that horrible thing or that whatever
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moved on from you turned out to
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I assume this sort of seals the
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No, I see where you're going. I see where you're going.

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Yeah, this is it. It's
a good like I guess chapter closing of

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the last three years, if you
want to say, but now I'm more

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driven and more fired up than ever
two, go even harder and put the

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pedal to the metal even more to
bring a Super Bowl to the city.

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And that's that's what's most important.
And one day I won't beat the quarterback

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here and being able to look back
on those days that I that I am

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and that I was with no regrets
and and knowing I did everything I could

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to try to make that happen.
And obviously there's a lot of work to

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do, but if we're able to
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goal. Well that's a great answer, isn't it. Jared Goff could handle

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himself. Say what you want about
his play. For the most part,

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he's he's very direct, he's very
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you eight sixty six forty eight forty
three. Before we get to that real

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quick. Scotty Scheffler, who had
a couple of weeks off since his last

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victory and he's won for the last
five events and tied for second in the

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other one, was detained by police
before the start of the PGA Championship.

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Did not realize this, but he
was detained in handcuffs after a misunderstanding with

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traffic flow that led to his attempt
to drive past a police officer into Valhalla

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Golf Club before the start of the
second round this morning. It was delayed

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the start of the round after a
shuttle bus struck and killed a pedestrian outside

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of Valhalla Golf Club there in Louisville, so the police officer attempted to stop

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Scheffler's car. Scheffler then stopped his
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The police officer went off on Scheffler
said get out of the car,

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so he gets out. The officer
shoves him against the car, places him

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in handcuffs. They got it worked
out. PGA of America officials they run

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the tournament, said Tea. Times
for the second round had to be delayed

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because of the incident. Not with
Scheffler's incident, but because a pedestrian was

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struck. He was trying to cross
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about five o'clock this morning, and
he was hit by a bus in the

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lane that was dedicated to buses,
and the man died at the scene.

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Scotti Scheffler is a regular guy,
I guess, until he gets a golf

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club in his hand. He shot
a four under yesterday. There he's five

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back of the leader Xander Schoffley.
I don't mean to go from a pedestrian

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death outside Valhalla to golf scores yesterday. Tough to make that transition. But

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the biggest part of that story is
that Scheffler was actually put in handcuffs before

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this morning second round. But Xander
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bogie free, nine under sixty two. You're out there playing if you're a

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guy like Sahiitigala and he hurts a
six under. Rory McElroy card's a five

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under twenty. Feenal really good player, six under par, and you're multiple

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strokes back because Xander Schaffley shot a
nine under sixty two, the fourth ever

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sixty two shot in a major.
Shaffley's done it twice, did it at

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the US Opened last year. He's
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That's incredible stuff. By the way, you heard Jared Goff talking about

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the Super Bowl. That's great stuff, man, it really is. Giants

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have Super Bowls. Have you seen
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Their inaugural season was nineteen twenty five. Have you seen their I guess

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you would call it throwback uniforms,
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alternate uniform that they're going to wear
two or three times this year. Have

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you seen these? I complained about
the Lions' new uniform look or or a

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chance for them to use a different
look with the blue and all that other

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stuff. I am not a fan
of the Tigers MotorCity. I can't stand

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it. I'm not gonna say I'm
not a fan. I can't stand it.

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I don't like the Pistons going to
black an orange. That's me.

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I understand who I am, and
I understand I've got plenty of flaws.

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I understand that my way of looking
at tradition and wanting to stick with that

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tradition is fuddy duddy ish. New
word for you, this is I have

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no reason to complain when you look
at what the Giants are going to do.

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They tweeted out inspired by our history, built for today. It's hard

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to describe. I'm going to do
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seen it, Ben, have you
seen it yet? Yes? I have?

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Okay, and they're ugly. Okay, So you're a young guy.

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You were okay with the Lions alternative
jersey, Yes, I was okay.

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You didn't like the tigers, right, you don't like all uniforms. I

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thought they were good. Oh you
did like this? And what are your

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thoughts on the Pistons with the black
and the orange, even though neither are

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in their color scheme at all?
Yeah? Not a fan of those.

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Not a fan of those. Okay, these Giants uniforms. They have Bennett

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khaki pants, right, yes,
space pants, khaki pants, red jersey

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with the middle being white and blue, a white stripe at the top,

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the number in white with a blue
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Then there is a hint of blue
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have a Michigan wolverine themed helmet,
only the winged part is in red and

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the helmet is blue. It might
be, by the way, they also

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have socks red at the top,
white stripe, blue stripe, white stripe,

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then red at the bottom. Might
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It's close, it's in the conversation, kind of looks like a rugby

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team to me, it does.
That's a really good point rugby. That's

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exactly what it looks like with helmets. You got to be a badass to

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play rugby, all right. When
we come back ag Hinch's thoughts on one

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particular player, we'll get your thoughts
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after the hour. I got a
tweet from our good friend gb Ritz.

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We were talking about Jared Goff and
how he wants to be part of this

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city, likes to be part of
this city. It was tweeted out by

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someone that Goff said, so lucky
to call this city home for the next

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few years. Truly wouldn't want to
be anywhere else. So proud. Oh

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it's his fiance. So proud of
this guy and lucky to be along for

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the crazy ride. We love you, Detroit. Very cool, very cool,

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and thanks for that, Terry,
much appreciated you, de man.

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Now. I would remind you this, we don't hear from Jared Gos's

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fiance that much. That's a that's
a good thing. I think we heard

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a lot from the previous quarterback's wife
that got a little old. And why

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we hear a lot about Patrick Mahomes's
wife too. It's at times where you

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just it's best to just move on, you know what I mean, Just

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it's okay not to be in that
limelight. Let let the guy throw on

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the football around do just that.
But that's a very nice text, a

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very nice tweet, I should say
on her behalf welcome back Monday through Friday,

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Before we dive into something A J. Hinch said that is not going

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to make many Tigers fans happy at
all. Let's get to a couple of

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techs because I know they've been on
there for a while, Ben, and

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you've been waiting to pass them along. So go ahead. Yeah, it

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says golf lives here five months to
a year at best, he will be

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right back in California full time after
he leaves. Look at Stafford, he

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will never come back full time.
First of all, we don't know that.

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I mean Stafford probably won't. You're
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that. Guys who came and played
who you thought would probably leave actually did

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stay. Calvin Johnson State, Barry
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extended period of time, and then
he moved to Columbus and now has come

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back. There are plenty of athletes
who've stuck around who aren't necessarily from here

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and just decided, you know what, this is my new home. There's

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a lot of athletes who just they're
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in, Okay, And I'm not
going to sit there and blame them for

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that. I think if I were
an athlete I was playing, would I

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want to come back to the state
of Michigan. Probably, But I'm not

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going to hold that against you know, Matthew Stafford right now, and I

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wouldn't hold it against Jared Goff,
even though I don't know that yet about

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Jared Goff. Uh. You know, there's more baseball players live in Florida

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and Texas and Arizona and California then
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How many Tigers live here year round? Let me think about that.

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None. So why is it?
Why is it Golf's going to get your

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iyre In that regard, there's plenty
of them. I mean, you've seen

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coaches, you've seen managers. They're
not living here year round either. The

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general managers are. They're going into
work every single day. Members of his

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staff are because they're doing the same. Would that matter to you? I

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mean, if he won a Super
Bowl and chose to live in California,

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for example, in the offseason and
train there, would that upset you?

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Probably not. If he lived here
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does that make up for it?
Hell? No, So I don't think

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that's a huge deal. You would
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many of these athletes, you want
them to experience your state, your area,

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even in the offseason. You want
to see them at other games.

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You'd like to see him at the
ballpark, for example. I understand that

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I can't say that I'm different than
you, but I'm not going to hold

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it against him if they don't happen
to live here year round, or they're

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spending plenty of money and helping our
economy while they are living here any more.

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Tech Bett, Yeah, it says
if Jared got traded to, say,

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twenty eight other teams, his career
would have spiraled. There was no

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Dan Campbell who solely changed the culture
here, a will to win, team

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first, believe in yourself, and
Chris s Pielman made this all happen when

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this franchise was at its lowest.
Now, if Goff went to Andy Reid,

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yes he plays well, but Dan
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That's from Freddy oh Man. Steve
Bartkowski. Good poll there loved Steve

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Bartkowski. He could spin it with
Atlanta. Atlanta needs to go back to

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those red helmets. I've said that
about Chris Pielman for a long time,

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so that's nothing new. And I
do agree with you. I totally disagree

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with you that if he had gone
anywhere else other than someplace coach by Dan

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Campbell, that he would not be
successful. Totally disagree. There's plenty of

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other coaches in the NFL who could
get the most out of Jared Goff.

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I truly believe that, and I'm
surprised you don't. I'm surprised you think

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that there's only one place that it
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of Dan Campbell, who totally changed
the culture. I would remind you that

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Jared Goff was with Dan Campbell when
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the quarterback. So there's no question
Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes and Chris Bielman

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and other members of Dan Campbell's staff
and Brad Holmes's front office changed the culture,

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no doubt about that. Kudos to
all of them. It's such a

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job well done. It's look,
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but it's very prideful that your team, this team is viewed as blueprint

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is way too far because it's more
Kansas City and the other teams that have

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done it for a long period of
time. I would say Pittsburgh's in that

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conversation. San Francisco's in that conversation, and they're still really good. But

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the drastic change that has forced national
people to look at Detroit differently. Is

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that fair enough? It's very prideful
and we should be. However, Jared

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Goff was part of the culture change. It's not just one guy. It's

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not just one coach. It's not
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to bring in the right people if
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I do. Part of the culture
change is bringing the right people. Jared

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Goff's one of those people. You're
trying to tell me that without Jared Goff,

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Dan Campbell has the same success or
vice versa. You think Jared Goff

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needed Dan Campbell to have success.
What about going to the super Bowl with

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Sean McVay. How about that one. I know Sean McVay in the end

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didn't want him because they traded him, and the Lions are happy for it.

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McVeigh did get to a super Bowl
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proven he can win with another head
coach and he could work just fine with

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a number a myriad of other head
coaches in the NFL and have success.

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I do not believe that Jared Goff's
career was saved by Dan Campbell. Do

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they accentuate his positive attribute without question? It's not just Dan Campbell, by

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the way, it's Ben Johnson two. Brad Holmes had to believe in him.

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He is good enough. We make
it sound I don't think Freddy means

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it this way, so this is
not a Freddy, but we make it

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sound like Jared Goff wouldn't be anything
but a backup or a last place quarterback

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in any other organization. That is
such crap. He's a good quarterback.

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Man. I'm not saying he's a
Hall of Famer, but he's a damn

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good quarterback. Ben. Back to
the text line people could text us at

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Sports Radio twenty one thousand. All
you gotta do is text sports Radio to

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twenty one thousand. Ben'll read your
text and we'll talk about it. Go

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ahead, Ben, Yeah, this
one's over to the Tigers. It says

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who gets the most credit for this
pitching staff pitching wise this year, Hinch,

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Rogers or Fetter. Great question.
I tend to believe it's it would

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be more Chris Fetter. And the
reason I say that it's Chris Fetter,

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it's Robin Lund. I think it's
more than because they're with those pitchers specifically

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every single day. They are focused
on what they do. It's kind of

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like remember when the Atlanta Braves had
Smoltz and Glavin and Maddox. Remember when

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they were a dominant team back in
the day. And let's face it,

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they had some decent offense, there's
no doubt about that, but they also

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had an incredible pitching staff, right
and Bobby Cox was was the guy in

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charge. But they had some pretty
damn good tutors for that for that pitching

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coach or for the that pitching staff. Okay, and when you do that,

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when you have guys like that Leo
Mazzone was was the guy Leo Mazzoni.

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Uh, and then he went to
Baltimore, you have that knowledge.

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He deserves a lot of that credit
since they're focused on one aspect of it.

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I remember when the Tiger's pitching staff
was terrible. Everybody, this is

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way before Chris Fetter. God who
is the pitching coach back then? Darn

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it, it was even before Jeff
Jones. Anyway, everyone wanted to every

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one wanted to blame the pitching coach. Well, if people feel like the

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pitching coach is an issue or the
hitting coach right now people want to move

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on from Michael Berdaro whomever, some
of the pitching coaches or batting coaches,

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then you've got to be willing to
give credit where the credit is due.

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On the other side, don't you. I would rank them Fetter, Hinch,

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Rogers, Carson Kelly also catches him
too. So remember that, all

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right, Speaking of AJ Hinch and
the Tigers, Hinch on the day off,

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knowing his team is under five hundred
for the first time, also understands

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that this offense is horrible, period
simply horrible. The biggest culprit, you

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would argue it, Isavier Bias.
There's plenty of blame to go, but

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it is primarily Detroit's infield. This
is a team that ranks twenty second or

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worse in all the really important categories
offensively, and if you look at them,

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it has primarily to do with the
infield. They're getting production from the

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outfield, but the infield is horrible. There's no pop there, Torkulsenbanyez Bias,

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so there's frustration there. You're getting
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carry Carpenter. To a certain extent, they have probably been Detroit's most

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consistent hitters. I think that's a
fair statement. I don't know if it's

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going to end that way, but
that's the way it is so far.

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In field's a different story. Cole
Keith you got to throw in there,

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right, even though he's not playing
every single day. But the most glaring

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hiccup in that entire lineup is Hoavier
Bias. He has the worst on base

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percentage, the worst slugging percentage,
and the worst on bass plus slug or

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ops in Major League Baseball, only
Randy a. Rosarna has a worst batting

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average among everyday players. Think of
that. That's how bad it is.

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Now are you going to give wuld
you give Randy a rose Arena the benefit

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of the doubt? Absolutely, Rookie
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Star, a guy who does a
lot of things well. He was an

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All Star year ago. Right now. He leads the league in strikeouts and

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has way too many over the last
two years. He strike out one hundred

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and fifty six times last year,
one hundred and fifty six times the year

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before. But he's a I don't
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but he's pretty damn close to it
because he doesn't hit for great average

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and he doesn't have great pop.
I mean, I think his career high

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homer's twenty three steal some basses.
I wouldn't call him a five tool player,

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but he's a good player. You'd
want him in left field for you

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on a regular basis, wouldn't you. Yeah, you didn't take it.

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Absolutely, So you think he's gonna
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that. You don't think Randy Arose
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who he is. I don't want
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that's that's the feeling I get.
How you or bias you think is already

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defined. Aj Hinch says about bias
when people ask what do you do with

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him? Are you going to bench
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to play a lot. We have
to try to find a way to get

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more out of him. There's an
occasional misstep here or there, but no

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at bats. Giving away his at
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not going to be the answer,
he said. He's got to keep getting

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his rhythm and timing and hopefully getting
in a position to produce offensively. That's

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the goal. Doesn't have to carry
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a way for him to contribute.
We got to push the right buttons.

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All fair enough, all something that
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say about a highly priced player.
What would the follow up question be?

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How long? Long is long enough? Right? How far are you willing

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to go with him? How long
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really easy, all you gotta do
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for how long? What do you
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