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Good morning, good morning, good
morning, and welcome, welcome, welcome.

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It's time to check in with Congressman
Josh Brick Keene and he represents a

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Congressional District two, which is pretty
much the eastern one third of Oklahoma.

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Busy, busy, steep, no
rest for you. It's either doing the

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town halls or back doing the people's
work at the House of Representatives. How

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are you doing today? Oh,
I'm good man, I'm good. It's

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good to be with you. A
busy with the debt ceiling. I know

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that this has got a lot of
folks kind of anxious today. Yeah,

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palm. I hope this segment will
allow time for a analogy. I'll do

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it quickly. In nineteen sixty five, there was a study that Stanford University

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conducted and they put about six hundred
and four year olds in a room and

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they said, we're gonna give you
a marshmallow. We're gonna put it in

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front of you, and with the
one sided glass, they watched to see

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how the six hundred young adults which
ones would obey the instruction of not eating

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the marshmallow. And they came up
with two hundred young adults four year olds

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who were able to think long term
and not short term and not eat the

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marshmallow. And they traced them fifteen
twenty years from that date, and what

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they found was those young adults who
who did not give an instant gratification,

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they were two hundred points higher years
later on their essay ts. And it

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had nothing to do with their intellect. They have everything to do with the

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decision to not take the short term
and wait for the long term. And

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so of course they rewarded them in
that study and said, if you don't

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eat to you know, the marshmallow
in front of you will give you something

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better. So I don't know what
the something better was, but it was

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better than a marshmallow. And my
point is, and then sharing that story,

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we have gotten into short term thinking
in America where every year or two

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or three we have a debt ceiling
increase. It's always a clean that ceiling.

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We always continue to debtload. And
what I think many of us are

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contending, we've got to start thinking
long term. And there was a book

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written over that the little scenario I
told you about, called emotional intelligence,

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And we've got to understand if there's
real pain coming to America, if we

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don't start thinking a long term and
stop thinking short term. And you know,

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is this uncomfortable? Yes, I
mean we have got to put security,

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the blessing, blessing of liberty for
our kids first, or we're not

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going to have a country fiscally left
in a few years when we start getting

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into trillion dollar annual debt service payments, which you know that's happening, that's

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that's set to happens in about five
years, and that will be a financial

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death blow to our ability to function
in DC. We're talking with the US

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Congressman Josh Faking. You're very verse
in the Constitution. I'm hearing this chatter

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coming from the far left and now
hints of it coming from President Biden about

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invoking what's called the fourteenth Amendment in
order to bypass Congress on this decision.

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Can you explain to us a little
bit about what's a play here. Yeah,

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So the fourteenth A Membi says,
of aidity of the public debt as

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authorized by law should not be questioned
as authorized by law. Well, the

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problem is they were authorized by law
to go up to a certain amount of

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money and then stop, and so
they've not been authorized by law to go

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any further. Here's what I would
contend that the public debt is not to

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be questioned if we're gonna pay our
bills. This hyper hysteria about defaulting on

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our debt. In two thou and
eleven twelve, brock Obama told his Treasury

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secretary, even up against a very
similar situation, you're gonna pay off those

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treasury bonds. We receive on any
or monthly about four hundred and fifty billion

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in revenue right now, and to
retire our treasury notes that matures about fifty

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billion a month, and just the
interest payments are about fifty billion a months.

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So we've got plenty of money to
be able to take care of prioritizing

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the things that have to take care
of without defaulting. And so I will

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content to them. The only one
that can bring about a default is the

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President United States telling the Treasury secretary
not to do what has been done in

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the past. And we've had twenty
different government shutdowns in the last many years

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since the Ford administration, eight under
Reagan, the longest just a few years

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ago, thirty five days. We've
not defended on our dead there's hyper hysteria,

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there's a difference between government shutdowns,
which are usually furloughs, where you

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have this contrast of opinions. Finally
they work it out. People end up

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getting their paychecks. And that's usually
you know, the National Park Services and

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a few other agencies that deal with
some discomforts. And yet the national media

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narrative is trying to stir up moving
to default and we've been so it's just

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a it's designed to put pressure on
people who want to change short term think

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and start thinking a long term.
We're talking with Congressman Josh Packing other things

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that you're in, Paul Pants,
the crisis at the border, and now

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that Title forty two has been removed. What we seeing, but we're seeing

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that you had twice the number of
apprehensions every day for once. That was

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revealed last week or two weeks ago
when Title forty two was lifted, and

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and so what's chaos has become extraordinary
chaos. And yet at the same time

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that that was being lifted, we
had a I'm on the Homeless Security Committee.

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We had marked up a bill that, in tandem with the Judiciary Committee,

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got put on the floor same day
Title forty two. In a way

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we passed the most what many are
touting the the most conservative immigration legal immigration,

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fighting illegal immigration bill, border bill
that's ever been put forth in a

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Congress had passed. So there's a
contrast. There's large order being advocated by

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the you know, the Republican Party, who've got the votes on the board

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to pass out of the House.
And yet because of this desire to bring

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in more illegals, you have this
this uh, highest number of illegals that

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have ever come into our country under
any president, five million to date.

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That's a million over the population of
Oklahoma. That is incredible, as absolutely

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incredible. We're talking with the Congressman
Josh Perkin, and Congressman tell us,

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what's what else is on your mind
today? What do we need to know

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from yet today? Well, um, we have there's just there's just there's

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lunacy operating in DC. I mean
even just a constant combatment that we're having

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to go in in five people that
set in cubicles that are trying to legislate.

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We've got a bill that we've followed
a few weeks ago to push back

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on taking away the authority over speed
limits away from states on vehicles about twenty

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six thousand pounds that's absolutely going to
impact agriculture, commercial trucking. We've got

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a new not voted on poem by
the people. We've got a new mandate

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trying to come in through FBA UFBA
of making it impossible for a guy who's

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trying to deal with shipping fever with
his cattle herd or scours or you know,

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if you want to give LA three
hundred, which is an antibiotic to

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your cattle. The federal government's trying
to make it where you've got to get

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a prescription from your vet. And
that's not something to Congress ford on.

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That's something that bureaucrats is setting cubicles
are making decisions on. So we've got

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a bill we're working on the file
to try to stop that. It is.

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It is just one more rule advocated
by bureaucracy, the fourth leg of

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government. And you know, I've
heard about it on the peripheral, but

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be in DC and see how much
of this actually occurs and how much of

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an affront to the Constitution. This
is where Article one sectional oness has all

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legislative power to best. In the
Congress. In Federalists seventy three have Alexander

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Hamilton, who decries excessive lawmaking,
says the reason why we had a mob

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cameral legislatures, we've only had a
house in the Senate and the president can

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detail we wanted to make it tough, Hamilton foundly father is saying to be

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able to pass legislation, and yet
you have bureaucracy who's skirting that, and

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they skirting the rule of law.
And we have just we've become a country

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that is operating in lawlessness, that
we're not adhering to the constitution the wisdom

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of our founders. Wow, And
it is scary that they we're being ruled

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by fiat, these bureaucrats actually doing
their will instead of having representative, the

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lawmakers doing the will of the people. That is frightening. It is man

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and and and so it's something that
you know that Republicans and Democrats have got

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to rethink this. When Republicans finally
get in control, my hope is will

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have a president and a Senate and
a House altogether that will say no more

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that you know, when we get
in power, are we going to tolerate

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this and we go back to the
rule of law. And so the Republicans,

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I am pleased. We do have
a bill that that is you know,

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um that has great support called the
Rains Act, and it says that

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above a hundred million dollars annual impact
on our economy, that any legislation and

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be proposed that would have that kind
of impact would have to go before the

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Congress. I'm a co author of
it. That's just common sense. But

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it doesn't go far enough. We
need a Bridle Act to go with it,

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not just Rains but you know,
it should be total. Anything that

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changes the law ought to be passed
by the Congress, not just something that's

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above one hundred million. Congressman broken, How could folks get a hold of

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you? Berken dot house dot gov. H They can go to Berken dot

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house dot gov. Berken has spelled
be as in boy are is in Ralph.

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He is an echo, she is
in Charlie, h is in Horse.

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He is an echo. Another he
is an echo in A is a

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Nike Berkin dot House dot gov.
And there's phone numbers for our clam War

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office, phone numbers for our DC
office that can email us. I would

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also encourage people to get in touch
with our field reps who should be coming

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to a business near you if they're
calm, give your comments those field representatives

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and I read those all right.
Hey, thank you very much for being

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with us today. Thanks Tom Having
let's say