WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:03.359 Hey, before we get started, be sure to head over to Hamradio two 2 00:00:03.399 --> 00:00:10.320 dot com forward slash email dash sign up to join my email list of over 3 00:00:10.439 --> 00:00:14.880 nineteen thousand subscribers, where I like to send emails about upcoming events, upcoming 4 00:00:14.919 --> 00:00:18.960 shopping deals, keep you updated with all the stuff going on with my videos. 5 00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:23.440 Once that list reaches twenty thousand, I will be doing a giveaway of 6 00:00:23.480 --> 00:00:28.879 another HF radio sign up today and thank you for the support. There's big 7 00:00:28.960 --> 00:00:34.759 drama right now on fourteen dot three hundred on the HF band and maybe even 8 00:00:34.799 --> 00:00:38.960 more so on the internet talking about this HF ban talking about who owns the 9 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:42.359 frequency, talking about the nets that take place on this band. I did 10 00:00:42.359 --> 00:00:45.520 a video about this a few weeks ago, and now there's even more information, 11 00:00:45.679 --> 00:00:48.520 more follow ups posted on Reddit, which I'm going to share with you 12 00:00:48.600 --> 00:00:57.600 right now. I actually found two different articles talking about big drama on fourteen 13 00:00:57.640 --> 00:01:02.840 dot three hundred and follow up for the Maritime Mobile Net and inner con nets 14 00:01:03.000 --> 00:01:06.439 frequency cops. Okay, so we're gonna read through both of these. I 15 00:01:06.480 --> 00:01:07.599 was gonna do two separate videos, and I read through them and I'm like, 16 00:01:07.719 --> 00:01:11.760 nah, I think I'll put them together because they're basically about the same 17 00:01:11.840 --> 00:01:15.400 thing. And this one right here's short and sweet. So I understand where 18 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:21.159 this guy's coming from, Okay, but I don't really agree with this definition 19 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:25.640 here. Okay, So he says the mock you military moron net and the 20 00:01:26.000 --> 00:01:30.200 incontinent net. Now the actual is is the maritime mobile net and the intercon 21 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:34.200 net. Admittedly, I don't know what the intercon net is. I don't 22 00:01:34.200 --> 00:01:37.599 know what that is. I don't think I've ever heard those guys on the 23 00:01:37.599 --> 00:01:41.840 air. Apparently they operate at different times on the same frequency. So between 24 00:01:41.879 --> 00:01:45.640 those two nets they try to take up that frequency all day long, twenty 25 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:48.079 four to seven. And I have my own thoughts to share about that. 26 00:01:48.200 --> 00:01:51.920 So watch till the end and I'll tell you a little bit about my personal 27 00:01:51.959 --> 00:01:55.120 opinions around that and some follow up emails I got about it as well. 28 00:01:55.280 --> 00:01:59.799 So these two nets were having a ball running anyone they could off frequency about 29 00:01:59.799 --> 00:02:01.840 two twenty minutes ago. This was written on This was written three days ago 30 00:02:01.879 --> 00:02:06.359 at the time of this recording, including someone trying to run PODA on fourteen 31 00:02:06.400 --> 00:02:10.159 dot three oh two while three hundred was silent. One of the test questions 32 00:02:10.159 --> 00:02:13.840 in the in the general test I believe it is. How why is your 33 00:02:13.879 --> 00:02:17.240 bandwidth and your bandwidth for single sideband phone should be about three killer hurts wide. 34 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:21.039 So if you're on upper sideband, it's going to be three killer hurts 35 00:02:21.080 --> 00:02:23.919 above your signal or your frequency. If you're on lower sideband forty meters eighty 36 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:27.360 meters, is gonna be three killer hurts below your signal. If you're doing 37 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:30.080 more than three kill hurts, there might be something wrong with your transmitting equipment. 38 00:02:30.159 --> 00:02:36.000 But presumably since fourteen megahertz twenty meters, which is the band we're talking 39 00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:38.479 about today, fourteen dot three hundred megahertz, anyone transmitting on that frequency, 40 00:02:38.639 --> 00:02:42.560 since it's upper sideban, you could hear them up to three killer herts above 41 00:02:42.639 --> 00:02:46.240 that frequency. So someone operating at like fourteen dot three oh three might hear 42 00:02:46.520 --> 00:02:51.159 a net going on at fourteen dot three hundred. But like this article says, 43 00:02:51.240 --> 00:02:53.639 fourteen dot three hundred was silent right now, and this PoTA stations was 44 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:58.039 on fourteen dot three oh two, So they're not on the net frequency. 45 00:02:58.199 --> 00:03:00.280 They're within three killer hurts. But you can't all always avoid that. There's 46 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:05.039 not enough bandwidth on the band to avoid three killer hurts. Of everyone out 47 00:03:05.039 --> 00:03:08.039 there. Operating in twenty meters is the most popular band on HF right now. 48 00:03:08.159 --> 00:03:12.479 It usually is. So if you land on a frequency and you listen 49 00:03:12.840 --> 00:03:16.240 three killer hurts down because you're on upper sideband. So if they're transmitting, 50 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:20.960 you might hear them three killer hurts above where they're transmitting. If you're transmitting, 51 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:23.080 someone else might hear you three kill hurts above. That the best practice, 52 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:27.280 the general practice is kind of listen around three killer hurts in either direction 53 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:32.680 of where you are transmitting where you plan to stop and call CQPODA. That's 54 00:03:32.719 --> 00:03:36.599 the best practice. And if there's nothing heard, then go for it. 55 00:03:36.599 --> 00:03:39.120 It's your frequency at that point in time to call out is this frequency and 56 00:03:39.199 --> 00:03:43.080 used from and then put your call sign. Do that one or two or 57 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:46.400 three times. If nobody comes back to you, take off man, do 58 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:49.240 it. So once again they say trying to run pode on fourteen pot three 59 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:53.639 or two or three hundred was silent. They kept coming in saying the ITU 60 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:59.159 has designated fourteen dot three hundred as an emergency traffic only and the ABL has 61 00:03:59.240 --> 00:04:01.840 jurisdiction over the FCC. Both of those things are wrong. Okay, both 62 00:04:01.879 --> 00:04:06.719 of these things ITU designated fourteen dot three as emergency traffic only know they didn't 63 00:04:06.919 --> 00:04:11.360 and ableurl does not have jurisdiction of the FCC. Boy, wouldn't that be 64 00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:14.199 cool if they did? We could get some stuff done in him radio. 65 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:17.000 But maybe that's a topic for another day. Moving on, they couldn't even 66 00:04:17.040 --> 00:04:21.120 find the net controller for this session, and so someone designated themselves and fake 67 00:04:21.199 --> 00:04:26.519 to check in with some lid to hold it. In their words, they 68 00:04:26.560 --> 00:04:29.639 were holding the frequency. Yeah, you can't really do that, well, 69 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:33.439 I guess you can, but come on, it essentially seems like they dropped 70 00:04:33.480 --> 00:04:39.199 their mask today and were using the activitive net concept in order to secure the 71 00:04:39.199 --> 00:04:42.639 frequency with only one controller and one check in. We'll have to go through 72 00:04:42.680 --> 00:04:46.560 the recordings of their stuff. And he says he linked an audio below, 73 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:50.399 and for whatever reason, it looks like this got redacted by Reddit. I 74 00:04:50.439 --> 00:04:55.279 can't find this audio file that was linked. Someone made read through the comment. 75 00:04:55.360 --> 00:04:58.199 Someone made a mention of that they couldn't find the audio, saying, 76 00:04:58.199 --> 00:05:00.879 hey, where's the audio. There's no link for the audio. So if 77 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:04.800 anyone has any audio of someone being a jackwagon on fourteen dot three hundred, 78 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:11.120 that's a representative of these two nets. Please send that to me. Casey 79 00:05:11.120 --> 00:05:13.639 five h should be at gmail dot com. I would love to hear that, 80 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:15.839 because I don't think this is the lat well. In fact, I 81 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:17.560 know this is not going to be the last video I make about this subject. 82 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:21.800 And let me tell you why. After the initial video I put up 83 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:25.439 about this, I had one of the net control guys reach out to me 84 00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:29.480 via email saying, hey, I watched your video. These are my responses. 85 00:05:29.519 --> 00:05:30.920 And I said, hey, you know what, there's some good responses 86 00:05:30.920 --> 00:05:33.519 in here. I would like to make a follow up video about you know, 87 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:36.480 including your email. Do I have your permission to do that? And 88 00:05:36.519 --> 00:05:39.720 he replied back to me a few days later, He's like, let me 89 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:43.759 reword a few things and then I'll tell you what you can share. I'm 90 00:05:43.800 --> 00:05:46.120 like, okay, I don't want to misquote anyone. Another video coming soon 91 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:49.839 for that now. About the same time, I found that article and this 92 00:05:49.879 --> 00:05:54.319 one's this hats off to this and this is the same guy, so hats 93 00:05:54.319 --> 00:05:58.079 off to the same same poster, and he posted this looks like about one 94 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:01.360 day later and he posted follow up. Both Maritime Mobile Net and Ercon's net 95 00:06:01.519 --> 00:06:09.720 frequency cops failed to abide by the guidelines established by their supposed governing body regarding 96 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:12.439 the use of fourteen dot three. First of all, we know that no 97 00:06:12.480 --> 00:06:15.519 one has ownership of a frequency that anyone tells you to move off of fourteen 98 00:06:15.519 --> 00:06:20.560 three hundred or surrounding frequencies because fourteen three is supposedly an international emergency frequency is 99 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:26.079 wrong. Okay, And he does some really good linking in this article of 100 00:06:26.600 --> 00:06:30.360 these things. Okay, and this is put together very well. I will 101 00:06:30.399 --> 00:06:32.959 link this article in the description blow so that you guys can go check that 102 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:35.399 out. I'm going to read most of this to you, but first let 103 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:39.560 me tell you about M and P coacs. If you're going to go out 104 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:43.120 to PODA, if you're going to set up a net control station, if 105 00:06:43.160 --> 00:06:46.079 you're going to set up any type of HF radio station, I highly recommend 106 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:49.439 Messi and Poloni coacts out of Italy. You can save a ten percent discount 107 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:54.720 on all of their coax items, the coacs itself, the ends, the 108 00:06:54.759 --> 00:06:58.279 connectors, the tools to assemble them. 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I've never heard of this net. 118 00:07:30.879 --> 00:07:32.160 To my knowledge, I've never checked into it. I have checked in the 119 00:07:32.199 --> 00:07:36.079 Maritime Mobile net before. Generally speaking, they're just taking check ins. It's 120 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:40.240 just very informal, taking check ins, how's the weather in your area, 121 00:07:40.279 --> 00:07:43.079 that type of thing. And I have some thoughts on that as well. 122 00:07:43.199 --> 00:07:45.920 I have some thoughts on that as well, So we'll get to that in 123 00:07:45.920 --> 00:07:49.240 a minute. This net operates every day from seven am to twelve pm Eastern 124 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:54.079 Time, which is twelve hundred to seventeen hundred zulu during standard time and eleven 125 00:07:54.160 --> 00:07:58.319 hundred to sixteen hundred zulu during daylight saving time. On fourteen dot three hundred 126 00:07:58.319 --> 00:08:03.240 megahertz, which has been designated needed by the IARU. So not the ITU, 127 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:07.879 not the FCC, the IARU, which is the International Amateur Radio Union. 128 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:13.399 This is basically a union or an organization that gets together and says, 129 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:16.199 how can we make amateur radio kind of uniform across the globe. So they 130 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:20.959 kind of get together and form a bunch of gentlemen's agreements to try to keep 131 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:24.600 the bands free and clear so that you can go operate where you want to. 132 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:30.319 So designated by the IARU as a worldwide center of Activity frequency for emergency 133 00:08:30.319 --> 00:08:33.840 traffic. Center of Activity frequency for emergency traffic. That's going to become important 134 00:08:33.840 --> 00:08:37.399 here in a minute. The Maritime Mobile Service Net, a separate organization with 135 00:08:37.480 --> 00:08:41.480 their own management rules and website, takes over at noon Eastern time. The 136 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:46.159 last part is quite convenient. The mm in the Maritime Mobile Nets page states 137 00:08:46.360 --> 00:08:50.279 the Maritime Mobile Net Service net is operated every day from twelve twelve pm to 138 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:54.759 ten pm. Twelve pm to ten pm for ten hours, you're running a 139 00:08:54.799 --> 00:09:00.559 net tying up a frequency, running a net really on the twenty meter Global 140 00:09:00.679 --> 00:09:05.480 Emergency Center of Activity frequency fourteen dot three hundred megahertz. As outlined by the 141 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:11.399 International Radio Union. Presumably they mean the IARU. What does center of activity 142 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:15.279 mean? According to IARU, okay, and he gives a link here and 143 00:09:15.360 --> 00:09:18.279 then he and then he an he quotes part of it. They are not 144 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:22.879 absolute frequencies, but instead a center of activity, and emergency communications may be 145 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:28.120 found plus or twenty killer hurts from the centers plus or twenty killer hurts. 146 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:33.000 That's that's kind of big. Some countries may maintain other emergency frequencies in their 147 00:09:33.000 --> 00:09:35.720 own band plans due to local requirements in QRM, et cetera. So three 148 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:39.879 fourteen dot three hundred isn't a sacred frequency by their own designation, but part 149 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:46.120 of a spectrum that is subject to local requirements including QM QRM interferences as referred 150 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:50.960 to in this case by AIARU. For these emergency communications and net purposes. 151 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:56.039 Is anything that is not related to emergencies. They're calling anything any activity on 152 00:09:56.080 --> 00:10:01.279 the band that's not related to emergencies. QRM is what iar U designates okay. 153 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:05.039 In fact, IRU has recommendation section their own Hamburg for emergency communications regarding 154 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:09.039 interference during a net. Remember intercon NET and MMM consider their nets to be 155 00:10:09.080 --> 00:10:13.200 active twenty four hours, and therefore anyone using fourteen dot three hundred for anything 156 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:18.000 but these nets would therefore be interference. Okay, and there's a link there. 157 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:22.440 Okay, and he quotes interference problems. If your net experience is interference, 158 00:10:22.480 --> 00:10:26.720 the NCS has several options. If the interference is coming from an adjacent 159 00:10:26.799 --> 00:10:30.919 or co channel stations that may be unaware of the emergency net, the NCS 160 00:10:30.919 --> 00:10:33.840 should politely inform them of the net and ask for the cooperation. NCS is 161 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:35.960 net control station. By the way, those of you human not know, 162 00:10:37.039 --> 00:10:41.519 NCS means net control station. The net control might ask an HF net to 163 00:10:41.600 --> 00:10:45.440 move over a few killerhertz if the problem cannot be solved in this manner. 164 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:48.879 Each net should have one or more alternate frequencies that it can move to if 165 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:54.080 required. If possible, the frequencies themselves should not be published or mentioned on 166 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:56.559 the air. I would mention it. I would think you'd want to mention 167 00:10:56.600 --> 00:10:58.679 it on there, say hey, everybody move over here, that's weird. 168 00:10:58.840 --> 00:11:03.519 Never discuss a knowledge or try to speak with an intentionally interfering station. Many 169 00:11:03.600 --> 00:11:07.080 years of experience have proven this to only encourage the offender. I will say 170 00:11:07.080 --> 00:11:11.279 this real quick. As a YouTuber, when I go out and do poda, 171 00:11:11.440 --> 00:11:15.720 sometimes I will hear someone come back to me. That's just obviously trying 172 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:18.360 to interfere, because they'll they'll say something like I got a question, and 173 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:22.080 they'll say it like this. They'll make their voice all squeaky and high, 174 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:26.799 or they'll make themselves sound stupid. They already sound stupid. They don't. 175 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:28.240 They don't need to try that much harder. They'll say, I got a 176 00:11:28.320 --> 00:11:31.919 question about a bail fer. They'll say it just like that, Can you 177 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:35.600 answer my question about my bail fang? They'll say this while I'm calling CIQ 178 00:11:35.759 --> 00:11:39.879 poda. They don't ID. They're not they're not man enough, they're not 179 00:11:39.879 --> 00:11:43.440 brave enough to ID. But they'll do this and sometimes, hey, I 180 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:46.759 need to talk to a famous YouTuber. Can you help me? And this 181 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:50.360 stupid crap like that. Just you know, It's happened maybe four or five 182 00:11:50.399 --> 00:11:54.360 times of the past four years when I've been doing poda, not often, 183 00:11:54.519 --> 00:11:58.360 but every now and then. And you know what, I do nothing. 184 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:03.240 I ignore themally ignore it. I call CQ poda. If the station comes 185 00:12:03.279 --> 00:12:07.480 back to me, I'll say station ending in Zulu, station Kilo Charlie four 186 00:12:07.519 --> 00:12:09.679 station come back, and I'll just keep going. I'll keep working the pilot, 187 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:13.279 or I'll keep calling CQ if there is no pilot, and I just 188 00:12:13.320 --> 00:12:16.279 ignore them. And after they try that, like three or four times, 189 00:12:16.720 --> 00:12:20.360 they go away because they figure that A maybe no one wants to talk to 190 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:22.639 their dumbass, or B maybe I can't hear them because they're using a Zaygu 191 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:26.039 radio or something. I don't know. I'm teasing about the Zaygu radio kind 192 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:28.759 of, but they don't know that I can't can or can't. They don't 193 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:31.919 know how loud their signal is. Usually their signal is not very loud. 194 00:12:33.159 --> 00:12:35.879 There may be a five by five. So I just ignored those guys. 195 00:12:35.919 --> 00:12:39.279 Ignoring them is the best thing to do, and they do go away because 196 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:41.960 they're not smart enough to stick around. Never discuss your acknowledge. Okay, 197 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:46.480 if the okay and in bold, if the interference is making communication difficult, 198 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:50.080 simply announced to the net that everyone should move to the alternate frequency and sign 199 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:54.240 off. Better yet, put a plan in place so that when interference occurs, 200 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:56.919 all net members know to move to an alternate frequency without being told to 201 00:12:56.919 --> 00:13:01.480 do so on the air. So in short summer. Based on this information, 202 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:05.679 the governing body that the Maritime Mobile Net Mike Mike November and I end 203 00:13:05.759 --> 00:13:11.720 both side as granting them uninterruptable communications on fourteen dot three hundred not only states 204 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:15.360 that fourteen dot three is just a range of frequencies, but if there's traffic 205 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:20.120 on the frequency read interference, then the thing to do onus is that a 206 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:22.440 word O n us own it. I don't recognize that word. Either I'm 207 00:13:22.480 --> 00:13:26.200 dumb or that guy mistyped that. Then the onus is the best thing to 208 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:30.879 do is on the net itself to QS wide, not the station that was 209 00:13:30.919 --> 00:13:33.559 operating on the frequency. First again, yes, no one can own a 210 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:37.919 frequency, and anyone who tells you this is wrong. But if any of 211 00:13:37.960 --> 00:13:41.399 these lids specifically want to fight you about it, tell them that their own 212 00:13:41.440 --> 00:13:46.120 guidelines say that it's them that should move, not you. Well said, 213 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:50.480 I got a letter from one of the net control officials one of the NCS 214 00:13:50.480 --> 00:13:54.720 stations, and he and again let me let me reiterate, he was very 215 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:58.159 polite. This is not verbatim, this is ad libbing. But he said 216 00:13:58.200 --> 00:14:03.559 something about how that that frequency is designated twenty four to seven or he kind 217 00:14:03.559 --> 00:14:07.440 of hinted towards that and pretty much everything else he said in his email I 218 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:11.399 pretty much agreed with. He did say that a lot of the times mm 219 00:14:11.960 --> 00:14:16.799 N net members or people who are somehow connected with the net, but they're 220 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:20.200 not net control stations. Maybe they're just checking, they just listen, they 221 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:24.600 like to listen, they're checking stations. A lot of times those guys get 222 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:30.639 on and they are rude to people around the frequency. And the gentleman who 223 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:31.519 emailed me, he was like, you know what, we can't really control 224 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:37.120 what other people say. The net control stations should not be rude to anyone 225 00:14:37.159 --> 00:14:39.639 on the frequency, and that's something that we stress a lot. But if 226 00:14:39.639 --> 00:14:43.919 anyone else gets on the frequency and tries to defend us, there's nothing I 227 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:45.679 can do about that. I'm like, you know what, I totally agree 228 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:48.559 with that, completely agree with that statement. That is absolutely one hundred percent 229 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:52.519 truth. My main point of the last video I made, and my main 230 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:58.440 point that I'll stress here again today is that there's no cause ever to be 231 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:03.240 rude. A lot of the comments I got in my last video said, 232 00:15:03.240 --> 00:15:05.519 well, yeah, but this net's been going for like twenty or thirty years, 233 00:15:05.559 --> 00:15:07.320 and everybody knows about it, and it's published on the internet, so 234 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:11.840 you should just automatically know this and move. How's that ning different than any 235 00:15:11.879 --> 00:15:18.360 other HF net on the internet? How are you supposed to know when all 236 00:15:18.360 --> 00:15:22.279 of these HF nets take place? Do a quick Google search for ham radio 237 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:26.240 HF nets and I'll do an overlay right here of this one that I found 238 00:15:26.399 --> 00:15:31.120 this ridiculous. How are you supposed to know all of these nets and memorize 239 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:33.759 the time to know that? I don't, don't, I don't think so 240 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:37.679 again, no one owns a frequency. If you know the maritime mobile net 241 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:39.000 is about to start at three hundred fourteen, not three hundred, and it's 242 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:43.919 eleven thirty where you are, maybe pick another frequency, be courteous. And 243 00:15:43.200 --> 00:15:46.840 the last question I'm going to ask is I have a marine radio that I 244 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:50.360 keep down to my Galveston house, and I listened to the marine band when 245 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:54.840 I am on the coast. I've listened to it here at home. There's 246 00:15:54.360 --> 00:15:58.240 no activity, even with a lake not too far down the road, but 247 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:02.039 on the coast, on the on on the Gulf of Mexico and presumably on 248 00:16:02.399 --> 00:16:04.519 the east of West Coast in the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, you're gonna hear 249 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:10.360 activity from boats and from the coast guard. I hear the coast Guard quite 250 00:16:10.360 --> 00:16:15.720 a bit on VHF marine band radio. The people I know, some family 251 00:16:15.799 --> 00:16:19.639 members I know who have boats, have VHF marine band radio and a VHF 252 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:25.879 intenna on their boats. Who has HF on a boat? Do all the 253 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:27.600 big ships, like the cruise liners or whatnot, do they have HF. 254 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:32.000 I don't know if they do. I'm asking you, who has HF on 255 00:16:32.039 --> 00:16:34.440 a boat? When's the last time you actually saw HF on a boat? 256 00:16:34.639 --> 00:16:38.240 You should I think everybody should have CHEF. I think everybody should have a 257 00:16:38.240 --> 00:16:41.720 HAM radio license too, So you should have HF on a boat. When's 258 00:16:41.720 --> 00:16:45.679 the last time you saw it? What boats? If this is an emergency 259 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:48.799 net that goes twenty four to seven, which again I don't agree with, 260 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:52.960 who are they talking to because I can't recall ever seeing an HF radio on 261 00:16:53.039 --> 00:16:56.080 a boat. Maybe a big cruise ship, maybe a big freight linership. 262 00:16:56.120 --> 00:17:02.399 Maybe so maybe they do cross atlantic cross Pacific ocean ships that go from one 263 00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:06.079 continent to another, from North America to Asia, or from North America to 264 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:11.480 Europe, or from Europe to Australia. These ships okay, but who is 265 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:14.559 running HF at C. I'd like to know that. Put a comment below 266 00:17:14.599 --> 00:17:15.920 seventy three Thanks for watching, guys,