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drama right now on fourteen dot three hundred on the HF band and maybe even
more so on the internet talking about this HF ban talking about who owns the
frequency, talking about the nets that take place on this band. I did
a video about this a few weeks ago, and now there's even more information,
more follow ups posted on Reddit, which I'm going to share with you
right now. I actually found two different articles talking about big drama on fourteen
dot three hundred and follow up for the Maritime Mobile Net and inner con nets
frequency cops. Okay, so we're gonna read through both of these. I
was gonna do two separate videos, and I read through them and I'm like,
nah, I think I'll put them together because they're basically about the same
thing. And this one right here's short and sweet. So I understand where
this guy's coming from, Okay, but I don't really agree with this definition
here. Okay, So he says the mock you military moron net and the
incontinent net. Now the actual is is the maritime mobile net and the intercon
net. Admittedly, I don't know what the intercon net is. I don't
know what that is. I don't think I've ever heard those guys on the
air. Apparently they operate at different times on the same frequency. So between
those two nets they try to take up that frequency all day long, twenty
four to seven. And I have my own thoughts to share about that.
So watch till the end and I'll tell you a little bit about my personal
opinions around that and some follow up emails I got about it as well.
So these two nets were having a ball running anyone they could off frequency about
two twenty minutes ago. This was written on This was written three days ago
at the time of this recording, including someone trying to run PODA on fourteen
dot three oh two while three hundred was silent. One of the test questions
in the in the general test I believe it is. How why is your
bandwidth and your bandwidth for single sideband phone should be about three killer hurts wide.
So if you're on upper sideband, it's going to be three killer hurts
above your signal or your frequency. If you're on lower sideband forty meters eighty
meters, is gonna be three killer hurts below your signal. If you're doing
more than three kill hurts, there might be something wrong with your transmitting equipment.
But presumably since fourteen megahertz twenty meters, which is the band we're talking
about today, fourteen dot three hundred megahertz, anyone transmitting on that frequency,
since it's upper sideban, you could hear them up to three killer herts above
that frequency. So someone operating at like fourteen dot three oh three might hear
a net going on at fourteen dot three hundred. But like this article says,
fourteen dot three hundred was silent right now, and this PoTA stations was
on fourteen dot three oh two, So they're not on the net frequency.
They're within three killer hurts. But you can't all always avoid that. There's
not enough bandwidth on the band to avoid three killer hurts. Of everyone out
there. Operating in twenty meters is the most popular band on HF right now.
It usually is. So if you land on a frequency and you listen
three killer hurts down because you're on upper sideband. So if they're transmitting,
you might hear them three killer hurts above where they're transmitting. If you're transmitting,
someone else might hear you three kill hurts above. That the best practice,
the general practice is kind of listen around three killer hurts in either direction
of where you are transmitting where you plan to stop and call CQPODA. That's
the best practice. And if there's nothing heard, then go for it.
It's your frequency at that point in time to call out is this frequency and
used from and then put your call sign. Do that one or two or
three times. If nobody comes back to you, take off man, do
it. So once again they say trying to run pode on fourteen pot three
or two or three hundred was silent. They kept coming in saying the ITU
has designated fourteen dot three hundred as an emergency traffic only and the ABL has
jurisdiction over the FCC. Both of those things are wrong. Okay, both
of these things ITU designated fourteen dot three as emergency traffic only know they didn't
and ableurl does not have jurisdiction of the FCC. Boy, wouldn't that be
cool if they did? We could get some stuff done in him radio.
But maybe that's a topic for another day. Moving on, they couldn't even
find the net controller for this session, and so someone designated themselves and fake
to check in with some lid to hold it. In their words, they
were holding the frequency. Yeah, you can't really do that, well,
I guess you can, but come on, it essentially seems like they dropped
their mask today and were using the activitive net concept in order to secure the
frequency with only one controller and one check in. We'll have to go through
the recordings of their stuff. And he says he linked an audio below,
and for whatever reason, it looks like this got redacted by Reddit. I
can't find this audio file that was linked. Someone made read through the comment.
Someone made a mention of that they couldn't find the audio, saying,
hey, where's the audio. There's no link for the audio. So if
anyone has any audio of someone being a jackwagon on fourteen dot three hundred,
that's a representative of these two nets. Please send that to me. Casey
five h should be at gmail dot com. I would love to hear that,
because I don't think this is the lat well. In fact, I
know this is not going to be the last video I make about this subject.
And let me tell you why. After the initial video I put up
about this, I had one of the net control guys reach out to me
via email saying, hey, I watched your video. These are my responses.
And I said, hey, you know what, there's some good responses
in here. I would like to make a follow up video about you know,
including your email. Do I have your permission to do that? And
he replied back to me a few days later, He's like, let me
reword a few things and then I'll tell you what you can share. I'm
like, okay, I don't want to misquote anyone. Another video coming soon
for that now. About the same time, I found that article and this
one's this hats off to this and this is the same guy, so hats
off to the same same poster, and he posted this looks like about one
day later and he posted follow up. Both Maritime Mobile Net and Ercon's net
frequency cops failed to abide by the guidelines established by their supposed governing body regarding
the use of fourteen dot three. First of all, we know that no
one has ownership of a frequency that anyone tells you to move off of fourteen
three hundred or surrounding frequencies because fourteen three is supposedly an international emergency frequency is
wrong. Okay, And he does some really good linking in this article of
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Thank you Messi and Ploni for supporting this channel. Okay, so anyone who
tells you they have frequency on ownership is wrong. However, the lids that
hover and idol on these frequencies love to cite the FCCA, r r L
or ITU to claim that they have ownership of fourteen dot three. I was
wondering where this idea came from, given the previous experiences I encountered today.
And he links the article we just shared. He links it back right here.
So here's the interer con nets web page and here's what it states.
Okay, now again the intercon net. I've never heard of this net.
To my knowledge, I've never checked into it. I have checked in the
Maritime Mobile net before. Generally speaking, they're just taking check ins. It's
just very informal, taking check ins, how's the weather in your area,
that type of thing. And I have some thoughts on that as well.
I have some thoughts on that as well, So we'll get to that in
a minute. This net operates every day from seven am to twelve pm Eastern
Time, which is twelve hundred to seventeen hundred zulu during standard time and eleven
hundred to sixteen hundred zulu during daylight saving time. On fourteen dot three hundred
megahertz, which has been designated needed by the IARU. So not the ITU,
not the FCC, the IARU, which is the International Amateur Radio Union.
This is basically a union or an organization that gets together and says,
how can we make amateur radio kind of uniform across the globe. So they
kind of get together and form a bunch of gentlemen's agreements to try to keep
the bands free and clear so that you can go operate where you want to.
So designated by the IARU as a worldwide center of Activity frequency for emergency
traffic. Center of Activity frequency for emergency traffic. That's going to become important
here in a minute. The Maritime Mobile Service Net, a separate organization with
their own management rules and website, takes over at noon Eastern time. The
last part is quite convenient. The mm in the Maritime Mobile Nets page states
the Maritime Mobile Net Service net is operated every day from twelve twelve pm to
ten pm. Twelve pm to ten pm for ten hours, you're running a
net tying up a frequency, running a net really on the twenty meter Global
Emergency Center of Activity frequency fourteen dot three hundred megahertz. As outlined by the
International Radio Union. Presumably they mean the IARU. What does center of activity
mean? According to IARU, okay, and he gives a link here and
then he and then he an he quotes part of it. They are not
absolute frequencies, but instead a center of activity, and emergency communications may be
found plus or twenty killer hurts from the centers plus or twenty killer hurts.
That's that's kind of big. Some countries may maintain other emergency frequencies in their
own band plans due to local requirements in QRM, et cetera. So three
fourteen dot three hundred isn't a sacred frequency by their own designation, but part
of a spectrum that is subject to local requirements including QM QRM interferences as referred
to in this case by AIARU. For these emergency communications and net purposes.
Is anything that is not related to emergencies. They're calling anything any activity on
the band that's not related to emergencies. QRM is what iar U designates okay.
In fact, IRU has recommendation section their own Hamburg for emergency communications regarding
interference during a net. Remember intercon NET and MMM consider their nets to be
active twenty four hours, and therefore anyone using fourteen dot three hundred for anything
but these nets would therefore be interference. Okay, and there's a link there.
Okay, and he quotes interference problems. If your net experience is interference,
the NCS has several options. If the interference is coming from an adjacent
or co channel stations that may be unaware of the emergency net, the NCS
should politely inform them of the net and ask for the cooperation. NCS is
net control station. By the way, those of you human not know,
NCS means net control station. The net control might ask an HF net to
move over a few killerhertz if the problem cannot be solved in this manner.
Each net should have one or more alternate frequencies that it can move to if
required. If possible, the frequencies themselves should not be published or mentioned on
the air. I would mention it. I would think you'd want to mention
it on there, say hey, everybody move over here, that's weird.
Never discuss a knowledge or try to speak with an intentionally interfering station. Many
years of experience have proven this to only encourage the offender. I will say
this real quick. As a YouTuber, when I go out and do poda,
sometimes I will hear someone come back to me. That's just obviously trying
to interfere, because they'll they'll say something like I got a question, and
they'll say it like this. They'll make their voice all squeaky and high,
or they'll make themselves sound stupid. They already sound stupid. They don't.
They don't need to try that much harder. They'll say, I got a
question about a bail fer. They'll say it just like that, Can you
answer my question about my bail fang? They'll say this while I'm calling CIQ
poda. They don't ID. They're not they're not man enough, they're not
brave enough to ID. But they'll do this and sometimes, hey, I
need to talk to a famous YouTuber. Can you help me? And this
stupid crap like that. Just you know, It's happened maybe four or five
times of the past four years when I've been doing poda, not often,
but every now and then. And you know what, I do nothing.
I ignore themally ignore it. I call CQ poda. If the station comes
back to me, I'll say station ending in Zulu, station Kilo Charlie four
station come back, and I'll just keep going. I'll keep working the pilot,
or I'll keep calling CQ if there is no pilot, and I just
ignore them. And after they try that, like three or four times,
they go away because they figure that A maybe no one wants to talk to
their dumbass, or B maybe I can't hear them because they're using a Zaygu
radio or something. I don't know. I'm teasing about the Zaygu radio kind
of, but they don't know that I can't can or can't. They don't
know how loud their signal is. Usually their signal is not very loud.
There may be a five by five. So I just ignored those guys.
Ignoring them is the best thing to do, and they do go away because
they're not smart enough to stick around. Never discuss your acknowledge. Okay,
if the okay and in bold, if the interference is making communication difficult,
simply announced to the net that everyone should move to the alternate frequency and sign
off. Better yet, put a plan in place so that when interference occurs,
all net members know to move to an alternate frequency without being told to
do so on the air. So in short summer. Based on this information,
the governing body that the Maritime Mobile Net Mike Mike November and I end
both side as granting them uninterruptable communications on fourteen dot three hundred not only states
that fourteen dot three is just a range of frequencies, but if there's traffic
on the frequency read interference, then the thing to do onus is that a
word O n us own it. I don't recognize that word. Either I'm
dumb or that guy mistyped that. Then the onus is the best thing to
do is on the net itself to QS wide, not the station that was
operating on the frequency. First again, yes, no one can own a
frequency, and anyone who tells you this is wrong. But if any of
these lids specifically want to fight you about it, tell them that their own
guidelines say that it's them that should move, not you. Well said,
I got a letter from one of the net control officials one of the NCS
stations, and he and again let me let me reiterate, he was very
polite. This is not verbatim, this is ad libbing. But he said
something about how that that frequency is designated twenty four to seven or he kind
of hinted towards that and pretty much everything else he said in his email I
pretty much agreed with. He did say that a lot of the times mm
N net members or people who are somehow connected with the net, but they're
not net control stations. Maybe they're just checking, they just listen, they
like to listen, they're checking stations. A lot of times those guys get
on and they are rude to people around the frequency. And the gentleman who
emailed me, he was like, you know what, we can't really control
what other people say. The net control stations should not be rude to anyone
on the frequency, and that's something that we stress a lot. But if
anyone else gets on the frequency and tries to defend us, there's nothing I
can do about that. I'm like, you know what, I totally agree
with that, completely agree with that statement. That is absolutely one hundred percent
truth. My main point of the last video I made, and my main
point that I'll stress here again today is that there's no cause ever to be
rude. A lot of the comments I got in my last video said,
well, yeah, but this net's been going for like twenty or thirty years,
and everybody knows about it, and it's published on the internet, so
you should just automatically know this and move. How's that ning different than any
other HF net on the internet? How are you supposed to know when all
of these HF nets take place? Do a quick Google search for ham radio
HF nets and I'll do an overlay right here of this one that I found
this ridiculous. How are you supposed to know all of these nets and memorize
the time to know that? I don't, don't, I don't think so
again, no one owns a frequency. If you know the maritime mobile net
is about to start at three hundred fourteen, not three hundred, and it's
eleven thirty where you are, maybe pick another frequency, be courteous. And
the last question I'm going to ask is I have a marine radio that I
keep down to my Galveston house, and I listened to the marine band when
I am on the coast. I've listened to it here at home. There's
no activity, even with a lake not too far down the road, but
on the coast, on the on on the Gulf of Mexico and presumably on
the east of West Coast in the Atlantic and Pacific oceans, you're gonna hear
activity from boats and from the coast guard. I hear the coast Guard quite
a bit on VHF marine band radio. The people I know, some family
members I know who have boats, have VHF marine band radio and a VHF
intenna on their boats. Who has HF on a boat? Do all the
big ships, like the cruise liners or whatnot, do they have HF.
I don't know if they do. I'm asking you, who has HF on
a boat? When's the last time you actually saw HF on a boat?
You should I think everybody should have CHEF. I think everybody should have a
HAM radio license too, So you should have HF on a boat. When's
the last time you saw it? What boats? If this is an emergency
net that goes twenty four to seven, which again I don't agree with,
who are they talking to because I can't recall ever seeing an HF radio on
a boat. Maybe a big cruise ship, maybe a big freight linership.
Maybe so maybe they do cross atlantic cross Pacific ocean ships that go from one
continent to another, from North America to Asia, or from North America to
Europe, or from Europe to Australia. These ships okay, but who is
running HF at C. I'd like to know that. Put a comment below
seventy three Thanks for watching, guys,