WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.600 --> 00:00:07.160 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez so on Fox 2 00:00:07.160 --> 00:00:13.560 Sports fourteen to fifteen powered by Nova Insurance Services and Sure Your Most Prized Possessions 3 00:00:13.720 --> 00:00:18.239 kat z R two, SAG and iHeartRadio Stacia. Good afternoon, Welcome to 4 00:00:18.280 --> 00:00:22.679 Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm your host Jay Gonzalez. Steve is again out 5 00:00:22.679 --> 00:00:26.120 today and I'll explain that a little bit. I've got Henry with us, 6 00:00:26.120 --> 00:00:31.399 So Henry's gonna jump in on the conversation today and we're gonna talk sports. 7 00:00:31.440 --> 00:00:35.320 But before we get to any of that, just wanted to bring up why 8 00:00:35.399 --> 00:00:39.600 Steve has not been here since last Friday. Some of you who know him 9 00:00:39.640 --> 00:00:47.119 know this, but he did announce on social media staw on Facebook that his 10 00:00:47.240 --> 00:00:52.479 mom tragically passed away on Friday. He's been very he's very close to his 11 00:00:52.560 --> 00:00:56.560 mom and they're just dealing with that situation right now. It's very it was 12 00:00:56.600 --> 00:00:59.759 a very sudden thing, and Steve is, you know, he's with his 13 00:00:59.840 --> 00:01:03.520 fanamily taking the time off that he needs to take off, uh to deal 14 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:07.519 with, uh what what he's going through right now with him and his boys. 15 00:01:07.760 --> 00:01:11.480 Uh. You know, we we you know, we all we all 16 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:14.680 lose our parents at some point, but when it's when it's a sudden thing 17 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:17.920 like this, it's it's uh, it's extremely hard. And we know Steve's 18 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:21.799 going through a very tough time. Uh, he's got his family with him. 19 00:01:22.640 --> 00:01:25.680 I think he'll probably be out the rest of the week. You know. 20 00:01:25.760 --> 00:01:27.480 Sometimes people want to you know, get back into things, to just 21 00:01:27.560 --> 00:01:30.879 kind of start trying to get back to some normalcy. But I think he's 22 00:01:30.879 --> 00:01:34.400 gonna need a little more time to just uh deal with what he's dealing with. 23 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:38.799 And we just want, we want Steve to know we you know, 24 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:42.560 we all feel for you know, we've all, as I said, we've 25 00:01:42.560 --> 00:01:46.680 all been through this kind of stuff, and uh it's bad when it happens, 26 00:01:46.719 --> 00:01:49.000 and you need your friends, you need your family, and Steve has 27 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:51.879 that. He's got a lot of friends, he's got a lot of family, 28 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:56.120 a lot of people who follow his rioting, follow the show, uh, 29 00:01:56.319 --> 00:01:57.280 you know, just being good friends for a long time, who you 30 00:01:57.319 --> 00:02:00.760 know, are hurting for him, and we are so just wanted to give 31 00:02:00.760 --> 00:02:07.719 our best to Steve and his family and wish him, you know, as 32 00:02:07.039 --> 00:02:12.560 the best that that he can he can be the next few days and hopefully 33 00:02:12.560 --> 00:02:16.159 we'll see him back sometime soon. I'm sure he'll be back probably early next 34 00:02:16.159 --> 00:02:17.879 week, but for now, it looks like he's going to be out at 35 00:02:17.960 --> 00:02:22.560 least the rest of the week. So there you go. That's the news. 36 00:02:23.240 --> 00:02:25.240 We did kind of keep it from everybody the first couple of days. 37 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:29.319 Steve wanted to be able to put the news out on his own, and 38 00:02:29.560 --> 00:02:32.199 he did that yesterday afternoon. So we're just letting everybody know in case you 39 00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:38.080 didn't don't follow him on Facebook or whatever, that you know what happened and 40 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:42.280 why he's not here and he will be back. So all our best is 41 00:02:42.280 --> 00:02:47.280 Steve and his family. All right, let's do the show. As I 42 00:02:47.319 --> 00:02:51.520 mentioned, Henry's here. We've got a lot of things going on that. 43 00:02:51.879 --> 00:02:55.000 As Steve likes to say, We've got hockey, there's been there was some 44 00:02:55.120 --> 00:03:00.159 interesting stuff in baseball last night. There's you know, more and more he 45 00:03:00.240 --> 00:03:02.240 was coming out about. You know, uh, you know, there was 46 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:06.280 a coach fired today, an NBA coach fired. Today. We're going to 47 00:03:06.360 --> 00:03:12.319 talk to Jody Aylor, the host of the Drive his talk show Fox Sports 48 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:15.879 nine ten up in Phoenix. We had already scheduled Jody because we wanted to 49 00:03:15.919 --> 00:03:17.800 talk about the Suns, right, the Suns and the end of the NBA 50 00:03:17.919 --> 00:03:23.120 season and what now and then up up this WEEKET up this morning. Moni 51 00:03:23.159 --> 00:03:27.479 Williams has been fired after after one year in Denver. I mean, what 52 00:03:27.560 --> 00:03:30.759 the hell, Henry, I mean, that's the best life of fire coach. 53 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:34.360 He's making eighty five mil. Just do nothing, yeah, because I 54 00:03:34.400 --> 00:03:37.800 think the Sons are still paying him for when they the Sons are paying him, 55 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:40.520 and he's got sixty five million dollars left on his contract with the Pistons 56 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:44.719 over over another because I think it was a six year contract, right, 57 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:46.680 so he's got five years left there. So he could be one of the 58 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:51.039 highest coaching, highest paid coaches in the NBA and he's not coaching in the 59 00:03:51.159 --> 00:03:54.759 NBA right now. And Joe Missoula is making like four million dollars. Yeah, 60 00:03:54.960 --> 00:03:58.520 and so Moni Williams, So we'll get you know, he was he 61 00:03:58.599 --> 00:04:00.400 was the you know, before he went to Detroit, he was the Son's 62 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:03.439 coach. So we'll see what Joey Aayler has to say about that piece of 63 00:04:03.479 --> 00:04:06.479 it. But we also want to talk to him about the NBA season, 64 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:11.960 what we can expect from the Suns. The next thing up is the draft. 65 00:04:12.479 --> 00:04:15.079 You know what's what are the Sons looking at there? And then you 66 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:19.120 know what's the future of the Sons? Right Ryan talking to Ryan yesterday, 67 00:04:19.639 --> 00:04:25.839 he said there's a some reports out there that that Sons may may be considering 68 00:04:26.199 --> 00:04:28.720 try to make a move for Lebron James and I'm like, what the hell 69 00:04:28.759 --> 00:04:30.600 are they doing? So well, that's Jody about that and whether or not 70 00:04:30.720 --> 00:04:35.120 that's that's real, something that just got tossed out and or maybe floated by 71 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:40.560 somebody and seeing whether or not anything like that is actually in the cards. 72 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:45.079 But Jodyaylor will join us at about three twenty. We'll talk to him at 73 00:04:45.120 --> 00:04:48.639 length about that, and then in the second hour, we've got Judy McDermott. 74 00:04:48.759 --> 00:04:53.759 He's the executive director of First t Tucson, the youth golf program here 75 00:04:53.759 --> 00:04:57.199 in Tucson, doing a lot of great things. Their sign up so that 76 00:04:57.279 --> 00:05:00.959 are going on as we speak for their youth program. There's summer youth program, 77 00:05:01.040 --> 00:05:03.680 So we wanted to get her on the air talk a little bit about 78 00:05:03.720 --> 00:05:08.199 that. She's gonna be calling in from a tournament that she's working, a 79 00:05:08.240 --> 00:05:12.360 youth tournament that she's working at yesterday and today, and we'll get some of 80 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:15.480 her thoughts on youth golf. Look, you know, if you live in 81 00:05:15.519 --> 00:05:19.560 Tucson, you're you're at least thinking about golfing. Do you golf? No, 82 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:24.959 well you're from New York, though, what do you know? But 83 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:30.240 you know, you know golf golf in Tucson. Really from a youth standpoint, 84 00:05:30.399 --> 00:05:32.839 it's a big deal. Although I mean, I've been golfing since I 85 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:40.399 was twelve, so that's oh god, over fifty years. And you know, 86 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:43.360 and I didn't play in any of the youth tournaments, but as a 87 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:46.560 kid, I wasn't interested in golf. I played golf since I was twelve 88 00:05:46.000 --> 00:05:50.759 and I'm still playing golf. And it's a Again, if you're living in 89 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:55.920 Tucson that amount of time, you're either you either play golf or you know 90 00:05:55.959 --> 00:05:58.319 somebody who plays golf, and it's and it's a part of your life. 91 00:05:58.319 --> 00:06:00.680 So we'll talk to Judy a little bit about the programs that they're doing. 92 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:03.920 They do a lot of great work and probably can use some volunteers and those 93 00:06:04.000 --> 00:06:06.920 kinds of things. So we'll get to get with Judy mcdermmer. She actually 94 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:13.639 is the former executive doctor of the TUSNG Conquisa Doors, ran the PGA tournaments 95 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:15.560 here in Tucson for a really long time, so she's got a lot of 96 00:06:15.560 --> 00:06:19.399 golf background and still doing it kind of. I don't know. I don't 97 00:06:19.399 --> 00:06:23.720 know if you'd say she's retired because she's working at this place, but she's 98 00:06:23.839 --> 00:06:28.040 uh, you know, ended her career on her terms at the tu Song 99 00:06:28.079 --> 00:06:30.839 Conquisa Doors and now she's doing this thing for for the kids, and it's 100 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:33.160 it's a great thing that she's doing. So we'll talk to her. All 101 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:36.040 right. Well, first thing, let's talk about let's talk about hockey. 102 00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:41.959 Right. The Edmonton Oilers, you know, took one in in Florida last 103 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:45.480 night. Now, now it's a series. We talked about Ryan and I 104 00:06:45.560 --> 00:06:47.759 talked about this, or no, I wasn't Ryan, it was Kevin and 105 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:53.879 I talked about this before the before the Denver game against the Celtics, thinking, 106 00:06:53.920 --> 00:06:58.959 okay, they're both Denver and the Oilers are down three nothing one again, 107 00:06:59.439 --> 00:07:01.240 if they could win another one, now you have a series. Well 108 00:07:01.279 --> 00:07:04.079 Denver didn't. They got their butts beat. They're done, they're gone. 109 00:07:04.120 --> 00:07:08.680 That series is over. Now this is interesting. The Oilers won on the 110 00:07:08.759 --> 00:07:13.240 road so really the series, even though it's three oh, it's back to 111 00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:16.160 where it was, it's supposed to be from a home court, from a 112 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:20.120 home home ice standpoint. Right, the Oilers are going home down a game. 113 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:26.680 Uh, what do you think? I mean? I feel like, 114 00:07:26.759 --> 00:07:30.160 compared to the Dallas for Celtics series, the Oilers and Panthers were always closer, 115 00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:33.439 even though when they went down three h So I feel like I always 116 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:36.560 had a feeling they could just string together a couple of games, right, 117 00:07:36.920 --> 00:07:42.000 I mean Bebrowski, the goalie for the Panthers. He was hot the first 118 00:07:42.040 --> 00:07:45.000 three games, but the last two games he's looked really bad. Yeah, 119 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:47.759 it seems like that all you need in hockey is just good goaltending. You're 120 00:07:47.800 --> 00:07:50.000 goally to be hot and you can win a couple of games in a row. 121 00:07:50.160 --> 00:07:53.839 Yeah, and you can, you know, And now again the Oilers 122 00:07:53.839 --> 00:07:57.959 are going home. Uh, it's it's a it's been an interesting, uh 123 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:03.199 sort of a cont trust in the two franchises. Right, you're hearing like, 124 00:08:03.360 --> 00:08:05.199 you know, like I heard somebody on the talk show say today because 125 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:09.040 it's it's the Florida Panthers, I heard somebody talkers say, if you if 126 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:11.879 your hockey team is somewhere where it doesn't snow. You shouldn't, you don't 127 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:16.279 deserve a Stanley Cup. And that was a pretty a pretty funny thing that 128 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:18.040 that, you know, the Florida Panthers shouldn't get one just because it's not 129 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:22.120 cold there. They shouldn't, you know, probably similar to the Coyotes while 130 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:24.639 they're going to Utah, so it's cold up there. But you know, 131 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:28.920 just a really interesting contrast the oilers in the history with with with you know, 132 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:33.440 gret Ski and the whole bit. But you know, god, it's 133 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:37.240 it's a series. It's a series again and you have you have to pay 134 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:39.960 attention to it again. Have you watched any of the game? I've seen 135 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:43.159 some of it, you know. When when I saw that, well, 136 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:45.960 I was I was glued to the Dodger game last night and I'll get to 137 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:48.519 that in the second. But you know, flipping channels, you know, 138 00:08:48.639 --> 00:08:52.919 I've seen some of it. I'm interested now, you know, at three, 139 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:54.399 Now at three, oh, I'm like, god, dang it. 140 00:08:54.480 --> 00:09:00.600 But now you know, this is where what we love about playoff hockey is 141 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:05.200 happens. The urgency. These guys going out there and you know, they're 142 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:07.360 you know, ready to die on the ice, you know, to win, 143 00:09:07.600 --> 00:09:11.879 to win a cup. And this is when it gets interesting to me, 144 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:13.000 who's not really a hockey fan. You said, you know, you 145 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:16.759 grew up playing hockey, you're a fan. I'm sure this matters to you 146 00:09:16.840 --> 00:09:20.320 even before, but it matters to me now, and I'm not. I'm 147 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:24.039 not a hockey fan. I know very little about it. You can reel 148 00:09:24.039 --> 00:09:26.960 off the names of all these guys and I don't know who they are. 149 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:30.120 But what I'm what I do know is that it's a three two series. 150 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:33.639 Uh you know, Edmonton's going home they win this. Now we've got a 151 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:37.600 Game seven, and of all the game sevens and all the leagues, a 152 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:41.279 Game seven in the Stanley Cup is the best one. It's also, I 153 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:45.679 would say it's probably the easiest in hockey to come back down three to zho 154 00:09:45.840 --> 00:09:48.840 just because it's easy to get momentum. If, like the NBA, the 155 00:09:48.840 --> 00:09:52.240 better team will just take over the series. Right, Well, it's gonna 156 00:09:52.279 --> 00:09:54.960 be interesting to say. I'm I'm in. You know, I'm in. 157 00:09:56.039 --> 00:09:58.240 I'll watch, I'll watch some of the next game, but uh, you 158 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:01.720 know, the this is when this is when it gets fun. This is 159 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:05.000 to me for the non fan when hockey gets really interesting. And I'm glad 160 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:07.919 to see that this series is going. I mean, you know, when 161 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:11.279 when Edmonton won Game four, I'm like, okay, all right, just 162 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:15.120 win another one and let's so we can talk about it. And they did, 163 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:18.840 so thank you very much for for for the game. Uh and and 164 00:10:20.159 --> 00:10:22.320 you know I'm interested to go to go see so well, we'll see what 165 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:24.080 happens. It's tomorrow, right, do they play on Friday? Okay, 166 00:10:24.120 --> 00:10:28.159 so Friday night, Hey, spend your Friday night watching a watching a hockey 167 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:33.159 game that's gonna have all the urgency you can imagine, because clearly in Game 168 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:37.200 four, uh, you know, the Panthers were just kind of like they're 169 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:39.080 just out there, well we'll win this at all, right, we'll win 170 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:43.759 this one. Well now they didn't, and now they now they've got to 171 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:46.480 kind of gear back up, right, And I mean can they do they? 172 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:50.120 Can you flip a switch like that and all of a sudden start to 173 00:10:50.159 --> 00:10:52.320 play And that's that's how people look at this, and so it'll be interesting 174 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:54.919 to see, you know, if can then go go to Edmonton and close 175 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:58.720 it out or are we going to a game seven? I'm looking forward to 176 00:10:58.720 --> 00:11:03.039 it, all right, we uh as mentioned, uh, you know, 177 00:11:03.720 --> 00:11:09.080 Manie Williams fired up up in Detroit. Immediately his name started getting mentioned with 178 00:11:09.120 --> 00:11:11.519 the Lakers job. So what you know, what are they doing? JJ 179 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:16.559 Reddick? Now, yeah, okay, yeah, you know, I mean, 180 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:22.440 you know, the carousel begins. I can't say I'm surprised or not 181 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:24.759 surprised. I knew that. I knew the Pistons weren't very good. I 182 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:28.919 don't know Minny Williams. I know he did a nice job in Phoenix until 183 00:11:30.320 --> 00:11:33.399 you know, he didn't and got into the situation and you know, ended 184 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:35.600 his thing with DeAndre at and and all that stuff that happened there, and 185 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:39.639 he was gone from the Suns. But you know, the Pistons saw something 186 00:11:39.639 --> 00:11:43.399 in him when they hired him. So what do they not see now? 187 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:46.759 I mean, there's no way they thought they were actually gonna compete last year. 188 00:11:48.519 --> 00:11:50.440 It was going to be a little bit of a rebuild with him. 189 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:52.759 So it was kind of surprised, right, right, So it's like, 190 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:56.480 what happened, what's happened in the interim, and what's happened that you're willing 191 00:11:56.519 --> 00:12:01.600 to cough up a lot of time? They have to they go settle these 192 00:12:01.600 --> 00:12:05.039 things, and maybe he's not going to get the whole sixty five million, 193 00:12:05.080 --> 00:12:07.799 but he's still kind of get a ton of money to not coach the Pistons. 194 00:12:09.279 --> 00:12:11.519 And you wonder what, you know, what's gonna happen there and what's 195 00:12:11.519 --> 00:12:15.360 gonna happen with the Pistons. So, I don't know, it seems like 196 00:12:15.399 --> 00:12:18.879 it's been a really long time since the Pistons have even been any good. 197 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:20.720 I don't think, Yeah, I don't think they've won a playoff series since 198 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:24.159 at least fifteen years. Yeah, so I don't know, I don't know 199 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:28.360 what they're thinking over there, but it's whatever it is, it it's not 200 00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:31.960 going well. So and then finally, you know, we'll just we'll kick 201 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:35.240 this around a little bit more later on. But we all got a couple 202 00:12:35.240 --> 00:12:39.000 of minutes left in this segment. But the Great Willie Mays passed away yesterday. 203 00:12:41.279 --> 00:12:45.279 You know, look, I'm like a lot of other Dodger fans that 204 00:12:45.279 --> 00:12:48.600 you're hearing from. I was a Dodger fan growing up when he was in 205 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:52.200 his prime. He was a giant. I couldn't hate him. I mean 206 00:12:52.399 --> 00:12:56.399 it was hard for me to. I didn't root for him. Right, 207 00:12:56.440 --> 00:13:01.799 But as a Dodger fan, I couldn't then I couldn't. I couldn't hate 208 00:13:01.799 --> 00:13:05.399 the guy because he was such a good player. He had to have a 209 00:13:05.519 --> 00:13:09.159 respect and an admiration for the way he played the game. To me, 210 00:13:09.759 --> 00:13:13.759 the best baseball player ever. If you want to say Babe Ruth, if 211 00:13:13.759 --> 00:13:16.039 you want to say Jackie Robinson, if you want to say you know, 212 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:20.240 be more recent, say show he Otani. Name a player, and I'm 213 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:22.840 going to tell you why. I think Williae Mays was a better player. 214 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:26.840 He had. He had the power, he had the speed, he had 215 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:33.039 the defense. He was the all everything guy and for me, a player 216 00:13:33.120 --> 00:13:37.320 that even though he was on the team that I hate to this day and 217 00:13:37.360 --> 00:13:41.960 I used the hate word in earnest, I've respected him as a ballplayer. 218 00:13:43.000 --> 00:13:46.080 You love to see him play. You know, you knew a football got 219 00:13:46.120 --> 00:13:48.080 up in the center field that he was going to go get it. And 220 00:13:48.159 --> 00:13:52.039 we've seen them. All the highlights that are that are being shown now about 221 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:56.919 all the incredible plays that he made in his career. Came out of the 222 00:13:56.960 --> 00:14:03.879 Negro leagues. He twenty four All Star appearances, he did, he won 223 00:14:03.919 --> 00:14:07.919 a World Series, a couple of MVPs at twenty one. I think gold 224 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:13.240 Gloves. The greatness isn't just in the awards, but it just watching him 225 00:14:13.240 --> 00:14:18.799 play. And I remember growing up and when you saw the Giants on TV 226 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:22.600 and you saw him play, you said, there's just nobody else like that. 227 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:24.240 You know, the Dodgers have never had a player like him ever, 228 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:28.399 And I don't know that even you can't even say that about show. Hey, 229 00:14:28.440 --> 00:14:31.440 now, maybe he ultimately will be, but today, no, the 230 00:14:31.480 --> 00:14:35.559 Dodgers have never had a guy like Willie Mays. Maybe the Sandy Kopex says 231 00:14:35.559 --> 00:14:37.759 a pitcher. You know, it was a great picture, but you know 232 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:43.840 his career was pretty short. Willie Mays was the guy. And I'll tell 233 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:48.799 a great story about a documentary I saw one time where they talk to him. 234 00:14:48.799 --> 00:14:52.279 But we're run out of time here for this segment. So we're gonna 235 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:54.559 go ahead and we're gonna take our break right now. We're gonna come back. 236 00:14:54.559 --> 00:14:56.519 We're gona get Jodyayler on the line. 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As we discussed earlier in the show, got my buddy Henry 316 00:20:33.720 --> 00:20:36.960 here running the board and being part of the conversation. And now on the 317 00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:41.319 phone, we've got Jody Aaylor from Fox Sports nineten in Phoenix. The host 318 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:45.200 of the Drive. Wanted to get with Jody talker talked some NBA and now 319 00:20:45.200 --> 00:20:48.000 there's some new news coming out coming out of the NBA with Money Williams getting 320 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:49.359 fired. Where do you want to start, Joe? Do you want to 321 00:20:49.359 --> 00:20:53.079 talk about the Suns? You want to talk about Money Williams being paid sixty 322 00:20:53.079 --> 00:20:56.759 five million to not coach anymore? Where do we go? Yeah? It's 323 00:20:56.839 --> 00:21:00.519 kind of incredible. I mean, now, between that and the buy out, 324 00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:03.920 he's got eighty five million dollars to not coach two teams. So it's 325 00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:06.799 it's a pretty good gig if you can get it. An NBA had fired 326 00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:11.119 NBA head coached What's what? What's what? What's the situation with him? 327 00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:15.119 Why is he why did why is he getting fired after a year on a 328 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:18.640 six year contract. Well, I think it's pretty clear. He said it 329 00:21:18.759 --> 00:21:22.160 last year at the press conference. He took that job partially because the players 330 00:21:22.160 --> 00:21:26.400 and money. I don't think money. Williams ever envisioned himself going to Detroit 331 00:21:26.440 --> 00:21:29.519 when he got tired by the Suns kind of put an offer on the table 332 00:21:29.559 --> 00:21:33.119 you couldn't say no to. He's dealing with personal issues, as his first 333 00:21:33.119 --> 00:21:37.480 wife died tragically in a car accident, which led to one sort of sub 334 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:41.559 bad book from the NBA. He obviously was able to gather himself coach, 335 00:21:41.640 --> 00:21:45.039 the Sons leave him to an NBA finals, and then his second wife has 336 00:21:45.079 --> 00:21:48.119 been diagnosed with breast cancer. So a year ago everybody thought he'd be taking 337 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:52.240 some time off to attend to his family, and then the Pistons come with 338 00:21:52.319 --> 00:21:56.200 this huge offer that you can't say no to, and he pretty much admitted 339 00:21:56.240 --> 00:22:00.440 he took that four job for the money. And I think anybody thing that's 340 00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:03.720 ever made a decision purely based on money, it usually doesn't work out great, 341 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:10.559 right. I don't think money Williams is too upset about the turn of 342 00:22:10.599 --> 00:22:15.920 events, but he's still a good NBA coach and I think this says more 343 00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:18.160 about the Piston than it does money Williams. Yeah, you know, well, 344 00:22:18.279 --> 00:22:21.160 well that's the thing. I mean, he had been in the finals. 345 00:22:21.200 --> 00:22:22.720 I mean, what do we were? You know, what are we 346 00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:25.359 doing? And why? You know, why is he on the loose like 347 00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:29.160 this? Now? Has there been any discussion about what he does? Now? 348 00:22:29.319 --> 00:22:30.400 You think he will actually take the time off with you know, a 349 00:22:30.440 --> 00:22:34.680 little bit of you know, a little bit bad to rely on. Oh 350 00:22:34.759 --> 00:22:38.079 yeah, I mean how yeah? I think now you just kind of He's 351 00:22:38.119 --> 00:22:44.039 got money for the next seven generations of his family, and so you can 352 00:22:44.079 --> 00:22:48.359 be very selective, you could be very picky and whether it's coaching, whether 353 00:22:48.519 --> 00:22:51.759 you know, he worked in the Spurs front office at one point as well 354 00:22:51.799 --> 00:22:56.400 before becoming a head coach. And so I think Bunny Williams will just take 355 00:22:56.440 --> 00:23:00.599 time and you know, he'll have opportunities if he wants him. But you 356 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:03.839 know, as I talked about on my show this morning, I don't think 357 00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:07.279 any of this diminishes in any way what Money Williams meant to the Sons in 358 00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:10.960 their run was the exact right head coach at the exact right time for a 359 00:23:11.039 --> 00:23:14.200 Sun's team, and he did a great job. It's just he's kind of 360 00:23:14.359 --> 00:23:18.200 gonna go down and infamy is the guy that got fired twice, And it's 361 00:23:18.240 --> 00:23:21.960 infamy but also envy. He got fired twice and made eighty five million dollars 362 00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:26.240 exactly Now. I think I saw either a post or maybe a quote from 363 00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:29.839 your from your should you like him? Right? I mean you thought he 364 00:23:29.880 --> 00:23:32.720 was a likable guy, or you think he's a guy he's a great guy, 365 00:23:32.839 --> 00:23:34.279 great coach. Thought he did a great job with the Suns. You 366 00:23:34.279 --> 00:23:37.359 know, I know a lot of Suns fans have an issue with the way 367 00:23:37.440 --> 00:23:41.039 things ended. And it's interesting because I think most Suns fans opinion of Bonnie's 368 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:45.599 Williams falls directly in line with how they felt about DeAndre eight. Right, 369 00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:49.119 there's a lot of Suns fans that you Monni Williams is the reason DeAndre Ayton 370 00:23:49.160 --> 00:23:53.240 didn't developed. I feel like I would say I know better than that that 371 00:23:53.319 --> 00:24:00.680 DeAndrea eight is kind of an unseerious professional basketball player that Monnie Williams successful coached 372 00:24:00.680 --> 00:24:03.599 to be a serious basketball player for about three months during the NBA playoffs, 373 00:24:04.160 --> 00:24:08.279 and that's probably gonna be the best coaching job anybody's ever done with Deiondre. 374 00:24:08.480 --> 00:24:15.640 Yeah, so he obviously left Phoenix with some tractured relationship with players and two 375 00:24:15.759 --> 00:24:18.400 straight playoff flameouts. But you know it's crazy. Even a year ago, 376 00:24:18.480 --> 00:24:23.000 Manti Williams led the Suns to to two wins over the Denver Nuggets in the 377 00:24:23.119 --> 00:24:29.599 NBA Playoffs with basically just Kevin Durant Devin Booker. That's better than the Sun's 378 00:24:29.599 --> 00:24:33.200 accomplished this year. But still he's kind of viewed unfavorably by some Sun stands, 379 00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:37.039 certainly not by me. Again, we're not We're not weeping for him 380 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:38.519 for sure, but you know, it's just too bad. You see, 381 00:24:38.519 --> 00:24:42.240 when a good coach just falls into these kinds of situations. So let's first 382 00:24:42.240 --> 00:24:47.319 go to the NBA season. You know, the Celtics are the champs. 383 00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:51.200 They were the best team all year, at least in my mind. You 384 00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:55.400 know, the Mavericks kind of came around and I don't even think they made 385 00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:59.920 it interesting, but certainly interesting in the sense that they got to the NBA 386 00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:03.680 the NBA Finals as a five seed. Your take on what the playoffs ended 387 00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:08.400 up being and was it just a matter of playing it out. Yeah, 388 00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:12.440 it was a terrible NBA Playoffs. I mean it lacked any real entertainment value, 389 00:25:12.559 --> 00:25:17.880 any real big moment, nothing memorable in the finals, nothing really memorable 390 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:22.240 in the conference finals. And the problem with the NBA is that that's a 391 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:26.079 lot of leagues have done some championship games, but the NBA kind of makes 392 00:25:26.119 --> 00:25:30.359 this big bed every year. They're okay with the regular season being diminished, 393 00:25:30.640 --> 00:25:33.400 They're kind of okay that the regular season is just sort of a tune up 394 00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:37.960 for a two plus month long postseason, but that means the postseason has to 395 00:25:37.960 --> 00:25:41.839 pay off. You know, I've mentioned this before, but you probably remember 396 00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:45.160 this, Jade, But like you remember in the nineties when the Super Bowl 397 00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:51.960 went on this run of just being awful, Cowboys blowing teams out, the 398 00:25:52.000 --> 00:25:55.960 forty nine ers blowing teams out, And that's kind of where the Super Bowl 399 00:25:55.960 --> 00:26:00.240 commercial frenzy was born, because the game stunk. And then not like a 400 00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:04.160 lot of times you would get to the Super Bowl and the least entertaining part 401 00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:07.920 of it was the game. Now, yeah, that's changed. We've had 402 00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:12.240 this incredible run of legacies and Thrillers, and it's really been on a great 403 00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:18.279 run for the Patriots and Tom Brady entered the picture. But it's kind of 404 00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:22.920 a thing with the NBA finals right now. Most finals in the last ten 405 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:26.359 years have just been bad outside of the Cavaliers, you know, upsetting the 406 00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:30.599 Warriors. So I don't know why it's happening. I don't know what the 407 00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:33.960 fix is. I just know that right now, the NBA playoffs are not 408 00:26:34.039 --> 00:26:37.240 really worth the late you know. Yeah, yeah, I mean because look, 409 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:41.319 I'm a I'll call myself a semi NBA fan only from the and what 410 00:26:41.759 --> 00:26:45.519 I mean by that is, I'm like a lot of fans I really don't 411 00:26:45.519 --> 00:26:48.480 pay attention to them in the in the regular season. I've seen I watched 412 00:26:48.519 --> 00:26:52.400 some games and I see the effort or lack of and that, like, 413 00:26:52.559 --> 00:26:53.920 you know, the good teams are waiting just to get to the playoffs. 414 00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:57.079 I get to the playoffs and I watch and you're right, this year, 415 00:26:57.160 --> 00:27:00.960 there was just nothing compelling about about any of it. You know, the 416 00:27:00.960 --> 00:27:04.839 Oklahoma's the thunder is the number one seed in the West. I'm like, 417 00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:07.480 really, you know, they were the number one seed in the West. 418 00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:11.640 It could there be a more unexciting number one seed like in the history of 419 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:17.160 the NBA. Yeah, there's there's there's a lot to like about the NBA 420 00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:21.359 right now. Like there's some great young players. Injuries kind of stole the 421 00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:25.559 postseason momentum because they're the first round or two. There was some real drama 422 00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:29.519 with the Timberwolves and the Knicks and the Sixers. But you had injuries to 423 00:27:29.720 --> 00:27:33.759 Jimmy Butler injuries and the Sixers injuries everywhere. Every team had a big injury. 424 00:27:33.759 --> 00:27:37.680 And you know, they've tried load management, they've tried a minimum game. 425 00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:42.440 I don't it's just bad luck right now. But you've got Victor wembin 426 00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:47.880 Yama, You've got Luca Prime, You've got jo Ki Johannis, You've got 427 00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:52.640 jam Rant coming back next year. I mean, there's there's some really good 428 00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:57.240 young talent that could potentially form the basis of a great rivalry. And not 429 00:27:57.400 --> 00:28:03.319 to drive this this this car off the road, but like really they they 430 00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:08.319 do need a Caitlin Clark Angel Reese kind of rival between some of these players 431 00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:14.799 to spark a real interest in the casual fan. And uh that just you 432 00:28:14.799 --> 00:28:18.559 know, I think that's partly a reflection of the failed state right now of 433 00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:26.839 college basketball, which has a complete inability to produce national level stars. And 434 00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:30.160 I think that's hurting the NBA. Yeah, no, I think I think 435 00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:32.400 you know, the thing that I hear hear from the fans is like, 436 00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:34.640 these guys are too friendly with each other. Right, there's no as you 437 00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:40.279 said, there's no Magic versus Bird, you know, no Kareem versus Wilt. 438 00:28:40.319 --> 00:28:44.519 There's you know, you know, the everybody on the pistos and against 439 00:28:44.559 --> 00:28:48.319 everybody else. Right, Uh, we don't see that and that and that's 440 00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:52.960 that's kind of what makes it interesting to the sort of fringe fan, uh, 441 00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:55.000 you know, to see those kinds of things. You know, when 442 00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:56.720 Michael Jordan was playing, everybody wanted to beat Michael Jordan. He was a 443 00:28:56.799 --> 00:29:00.519 rival for everyone. And and we you're right, we don't see that anymore, 444 00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:04.519 you know, these guys. Look, I commanded Kyrie Irvin for what 445 00:29:04.559 --> 00:29:07.640 he did at the end of the game the other night. He went to 446 00:29:07.680 --> 00:29:11.680 the other bench congratulated everybody stuff like that. Back in the day, somebody 447 00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:12.960 would have smacked him in the head and said to get back to his side 448 00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:17.519 of the car. Right. Well, off speaks to like there have been 449 00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:21.359 six new NBA champions in the last six years, and that kind of parody 450 00:29:21.400 --> 00:29:23.920 works in the NFL, but I think it doesn't really work in the NBA 451 00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:30.480 because you need that tension and rivalry competitively. I mean, most of the 452 00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:33.880 series weren't great, but the Warriors and Cavaliers facing off against each other over 453 00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:38.720 and over again created a real dramatic element to each one of those matchups and 454 00:29:38.759 --> 00:29:44.680 created a real story in NBA history. And since that ended, we just 455 00:29:44.759 --> 00:29:48.480 you know, it's it's the Nuggets, it's the Raptors, the Bucks, 456 00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:52.720 it's the Celtics. It's just one kind of random story after another. And 457 00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:57.799 I think basketball is that it's best with real competitive tension between superstars that are 458 00:29:57.880 --> 00:30:03.519 battling for the sie a sort of legacy title. And we might have to 459 00:30:03.519 --> 00:30:07.319 wait a little bit longer, but Anthony Edwards is coming, Victor winbin Yama 460 00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:11.319 Luke is obviously here. There's there's the potential for it is just we got 461 00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:14.240 to get lucky and hope that that something really happened, right right, all 462 00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:15.319 right, We've got a few minutes staff. We're talking to Jody Aayler, 463 00:30:15.920 --> 00:30:19.000 host of The Drive Fox Sports nine ten up in Phoenix, of Jody, 464 00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:23.920 What now with the Suns? Right? You know? They to me, 465 00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:26.440 they're kind of in a no man's land, right, they're picking low. 466 00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:32.519 They need some they need you know, some star players. What you what? 467 00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:33.759 Where do you think they are? Where do you think they're going right 468 00:30:33.799 --> 00:30:37.680 now? Well, first of all, any Suns fan should ditch the hope 469 00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:41.680 of winning a championship with this team. They're not a championship caliber team. 470 00:30:41.720 --> 00:30:42.839 They don't have the size, they don't have the depth, they don't have 471 00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:47.319 the roster flexibility, they don't have the resources to get better. And that's 472 00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:51.319 that's just the reality. And it's fine, it's okay, it's not it's 473 00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:55.160 not the worst the end of the world. And second of all, that 474 00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:59.079 flows into what this offseason should be, which is pretty much just kind of 475 00:30:59.119 --> 00:31:02.759 do what a normal does, which is make a draft the hope you get 476 00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:07.119 it right, develop a real culture, develop a real offensive and defensive system, 477 00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:10.880 develop some real leadership both from the coaching staff for the players, and 478 00:31:11.279 --> 00:31:17.240 they could be first record wise next year, but a better team and might 479 00:31:17.279 --> 00:31:21.839 actually be able to win a playoffs series for maybe even two. But I 480 00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:26.119 think everyone just has to recalibrate because this idea that they're going to land stars 481 00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:32.000 every years. It's gone. It was a huge failure last year. Kevin 482 00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:36.559 Durant, Devin Book and Bradley Deal can be better together, and it should 483 00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:41.960 be better with Mike Budenholtzer. But you can't expect greatness from the sun. 484 00:31:41.119 --> 00:31:45.480 So it's not that long of a wait. In two years, Bradley Beal 485 00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:49.480 have an expiring contract. Kevin Durant's deal is up in two years if he's 486 00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:53.839 not traded before then, and then you'll be right back in cap space and 487 00:31:53.920 --> 00:32:00.160 pigs and flexibility. But this year and next year are probably going to be 488 00:32:00.359 --> 00:32:05.599 a firm ceiling fixed in place of like a second round NBA playoff team and 489 00:32:05.680 --> 00:32:07.720 hopefully finding some good young players in the draft. There was a lot of 490 00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:13.359 buzz when Mike Budenholzer got hired, you know in Arizona guy, a lot 491 00:32:13.400 --> 00:32:17.160 of folks were very happy to see him in that seat. Now, but 492 00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:21.160 you know, buzz only lasts so long. Now he's got a coach, 493 00:32:21.200 --> 00:32:23.720 they got to put a team together, they've got a draft. What's the 494 00:32:23.720 --> 00:32:28.079 buzz on Mike Budenholzer? Now, Well, I think there's real optims and 495 00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:30.119 he's a real deal. NBA coach. I think he's a very, very 496 00:32:30.160 --> 00:32:36.720 accomplished, successful, respected NBA head coach with more depth to his resume than 497 00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:39.279 Frank Bogel. I think, now it's a little easy to forget, but 498 00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:45.039 the great Popovich coaching tree was once the most sought after coaching tree in the 499 00:32:45.160 --> 00:32:47.359 NBA and kind of the standard for how NBA team should be run. And 500 00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:52.039 frankly, the Suns could use that from their old nemesis. So I think 501 00:32:52.119 --> 00:32:54.119 Mike Budenholz is going to do a good job. I don't think he's a 502 00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:59.960 miracle worker. I don't think he can get Devin Booker to grow three inches 503 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:06.440 overnight play lockdown defense. I don't think he can turn Bradley Beal into Wolverine 504 00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:09.400 from X Men and has destructible bones, and so he's he's got a lot 505 00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:14.440 of challenges that are not of his own making. His role is going to 506 00:33:14.480 --> 00:33:17.079 be take the current ingredients and put a better dish on the table than Frent 507 00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:21.240 Vogel served last year, because that was right in the trash. Well, 508 00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:23.200 they're drafting what twenty second? I think, right, yeah, what are 509 00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:28.000 they looking for? You know, they could use just about everything. I'm 510 00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:30.480 a big proponent. They need a wing, They need size. They got 511 00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:34.680 a lot of six y five and undershooters, Beil Booker, obviously, Grayson 512 00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:37.960 Allen, even Roy O'Neil. Whether Eric Gordon comes back or not, they 513 00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:43.400 obviously need a big use of nurkices there. So I think they need a 514 00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:47.480 wing. Just give me the biggest best prospect between six six and six' 515 00:33:47.559 --> 00:33:53.519 nine that has some offensive capability, can commit to playing defensively, and if 516 00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:59.759 you just give me a average NBA wing twenty second overall, they can do 517 00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:02.160 one of the ten best players in the rotation next year. I think that 518 00:34:02.279 --> 00:34:06.799 is a huge lift for a team that has a bunch of six y five 519 00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:10.280 and undershooters, a couple of gigs and Kevin Durant and nothing in between. 520 00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:14.159 I think they got to fill that void. Got it all right, Well, 521 00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:16.880 Jody, appreciate the time that went fast. You know, we do 522 00:34:16.960 --> 00:34:20.599 know you probably need to go get a nap or something like that with you 523 00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:23.079 on your up and unless you already did get your daily nap, got the 524 00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:27.840 napped in getting ready for swim, team practice, getting ready for dinner, 525 00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:32.039 getting ready. They's just never ended big dumb in Arizona. So we're just 526 00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:36.880 stuck indoors exactly well, Jody Ayler on Fox Sports nine ten and Phoenix. 527 00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:39.239 You can listen to him in the mornings on the Drive. We appreciate it 528 00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:42.840 as always, Jody, thanks for the insight and we'll talk to you again. 529 00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:45.599 Jay, great to talk to you. Appreciate Hi. Man. All 530 00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:47.639 right, let's go ahead and take our break. 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I've got Henry here working with me, 566 00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:20.360 working the board and kind of keeping me in line. But uh, you 567 00:37:20.400 --> 00:37:22.440 know, we've got we've got a show to do, so we're doing it. 568 00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:24.320 And you know, we wish all all the best to Steve, but 569 00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:29.000 we know he'll be back, and you know, getting through a very tough 570 00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:30.719 time for him. So I want to get back to Willie Mays because we 571 00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:32.920 you know, we only gave it a couple of minutes in the first segment, 572 00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:37.159 and you know the reason being that, you know, I guess to 573 00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:39.960 put it in sort of a perspective. You know, my dad wasn't a 574 00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:46.800 huge baseball fan, but you know, Willie Mays passing away is how I 575 00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:51.159 imagine my dad would have seen guys like you know, Babe Ruth, Lou 576 00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:57.320 Garrig and maybe that's a little early for him, maybe like to Ted Williams, 577 00:37:57.920 --> 00:38:01.320 Joe Demagio, those kinds of guys that you know, It's like, 578 00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:06.320 that's who Willy Mays was to me, you know, the greatest player that 579 00:38:06.440 --> 00:38:10.519 I can remember seeing Again, I I hated the fact that he played for 580 00:38:10.599 --> 00:38:15.400 the team that I that I couldn't stand. Whenever he played the Dodgers, 581 00:38:15.480 --> 00:38:17.159 you knew he was going to do something special, and he always did because 582 00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:21.239 I was such a rivalry. But Willie Mays was that guy, you know, 583 00:38:21.239 --> 00:38:23.599 Hank Aaron was that guy. Uh but you know, Hank Aaron was 584 00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:27.880 a great power here to a great baseball player. Willie was the whole, 585 00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:31.039 the total package and you know, for for a Dodger fan, and I've 586 00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:35.360 seen again seen a lot of Dodger fans who say, I loved seeing the 587 00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:37.599 guy play as much as I hated how he played against the Dodgers, I 588 00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:42.039 loved watching him and they consider him the best player ever and he was that. 589 00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:45.400 There's a really funny story that I tell often because it's it. It 590 00:38:45.519 --> 00:38:50.000 just tells you what baseball was compared to what it is, and we're always 591 00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:53.599 doing that. But uh, the HBO ran a series, uh god, 592 00:38:53.679 --> 00:38:57.199 what was it called. I can't remember, I can't remember what it was, 593 00:38:57.239 --> 00:39:00.599 basically a history of baseball and they did it in segments. So the 594 00:39:00.679 --> 00:39:07.239 segments that they what they did was started in the like in the fifties and 595 00:39:07.400 --> 00:39:10.880 went up through the sixties, kind of when the astro turf era began in 596 00:39:12.000 --> 00:39:17.239 the early seventies when Cincinnati and Pittsburgh and Philadelphia they got these cookie cutter stadiums 597 00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:21.599 with astro turf and stuff like that. So in the sixties, which is 598 00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:24.239 when Willie Mays was Willie Mays, and there were a lot of great players, 599 00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:29.840 a lot of great incredible players, pitchers like Bob Gibson, Don Drysdale, 600 00:39:29.920 --> 00:39:35.159 Sandy Kofax. So they're interviewing Willie Mays as part of this, and 601 00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:40.320 they were talking about how they had to respect the pictures. So even a 602 00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:44.199 guy like Willie Mays, he talks about how this one time he's coming to 603 00:39:44.239 --> 00:39:47.760 the plate against the Dodgers and he gets up to he gets up to the 604 00:39:47.760 --> 00:39:52.039 batter's box and he digs in, you know, digs his foot in the 605 00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:54.800 batter's box and he completely digs in, gets in, you know, gets 606 00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:58.519 in the box, you know, takes his practice swing and looks out to 607 00:39:58.559 --> 00:40:02.239 the pitcher's mount and it's Don Drysdale. And he said, oh no, 608 00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:08.039 and he knew that because of what he did, the way he dug into 609 00:40:08.079 --> 00:40:12.519 the box, said Don Drivesdale was gonna was gonna throw at him. He 610 00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:15.639 said, he immediately called time out, fixed up the batter's box, kind 611 00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:20.119 of raked it with his with his shoe to kind of let Don Drivesdale know 612 00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:22.159 I didn't mean to do that kind of thing, and then kind of got 613 00:40:22.159 --> 00:40:27.719 back in the batter's box and what happened, Drivesdale threw at him. But 614 00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:31.519 it was funny how even a guy like Willie Mays understood won the protocol, 615 00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:37.480 but two had the respect, right, he said. Bob Gibson was a 616 00:40:37.519 --> 00:40:40.199 similar picture. You did not dig into the batter's box against Bob Gibson. 617 00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:44.559 He'll be in you. And back in the day, they didn't throw out 618 00:40:44.559 --> 00:40:46.519 the head, right, they put one in your back, you know, 619 00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:50.360 they put one in the back. So he talks about how he was really 620 00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:52.519 funny, how he he realized what he had done and who he had done 621 00:40:52.559 --> 00:40:57.440 it to, and he tried to let Drysdale know he was he's gonna fix 622 00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:00.280 up the batter's box and not dig in the way he did, and still 623 00:41:00.360 --> 00:41:05.800 drives out through at him. And it just that's the competitiveness that they all 624 00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:09.039 had. Even though Willie Mays shouldn't have feared anybody, right, he didn't 625 00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:14.280 fear him. He respected it. And I look, I'm an old guy, 626 00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:17.960 Get off my long guy that says that's the respect that you wish still 627 00:41:19.000 --> 00:41:22.400 existed in baseball today or in all sports today. And it doesn't. It 628 00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:27.039 just doesn't, you know. You know, we were commenting about, you 629 00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.880 know, celebrations that you're seeing in the College World Series today and those kinds 630 00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:34.239 of things, like you did that back in the day, and you got 631 00:41:34.239 --> 00:41:37.119 a baseball in your ear or whatever. You know, somebody took you out 632 00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:42.159 on the football field or on the basketball court. But I don't even get 633 00:41:42.239 --> 00:41:45.880 into that discussion. But the point being that, you know, seeing that 634 00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:49.519 Willie Mays has passed away, you go, man, that was a guy 635 00:41:50.199 --> 00:41:53.119 that you paid money to see. You know, he played in that in 636 00:41:53.159 --> 00:41:58.039 that stadium at Candlestick Park, that was one of the worst ballparks ever. 637 00:41:58.800 --> 00:42:01.800 The wind howling all the time. Was built right on the bay, wind 638 00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:07.639 was always blowing in. He will Willie Mays six hundred and sixty some homers. 639 00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:09.239 How many more homers he would have had had he played in a park 640 00:42:09.280 --> 00:42:14.639 that was a little friendlier, right, had a short porch like Yankee Stadium 641 00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:17.400 did, or maybe even played in Dodger Stadium where the wind wasn't always whipping 642 00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:22.000 the way the way it is now, oh the way it did. Then 643 00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:27.039 they're at Candlestick Part. You know, a dangerous outfield, right, they 644 00:42:27.039 --> 00:42:30.239 had a chain link fence. Was the fence, no padding over it. 645 00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:32.199 You know, if you went but if you went for a ball out and 646 00:42:32.719 --> 00:42:36.400 you know, all all out in center field and you hit the fence, 647 00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:38.760 you ran into a chain link fence and you know you could easily you know, 648 00:42:38.840 --> 00:42:44.000 catch a knee, catch a spike or whatever. And so just all 649 00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:45.840 those things that that that that they put up with, and that were part 650 00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:51.880 of Willie Maye's career. And yet you can sit here and say greatest player 651 00:42:51.880 --> 00:42:54.400 ever. Some people argue with you. Some will say, well it was 652 00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:59.440 Babe Ruth or was this guy or was that guy? For me? He's 653 00:42:59.480 --> 00:43:02.599 the guy and and you know, you feel you feel for you know, 654 00:43:02.639 --> 00:43:06.280 his family and whatnot. He was ninety three, lived a long life. 655 00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:09.639 Unfortunately, he's missed this great thing that they're going to do playing a game 656 00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:16.320 at at at that old Negro League ballpark that was where he lived or where 657 00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:19.880 he's from, and you know, sort of in his honor, and he's 658 00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:22.119 going to miss it. But it's going to be great to honor him. 659 00:43:22.119 --> 00:43:25.519 That's gonna be a really special special event when they when they do that. 660 00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:31.239 But you know, God, I was tempted to bring in Greg Hanson, 661 00:43:31.360 --> 00:43:34.639 you know, to talk about William. Maybe we'll still do that at some 662 00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:38.320 point. Greg was a big Mickey Mantle fan with Greg's a historian of all 663 00:43:38.360 --> 00:43:43.039 sports, but particularly baseball, and I'm sure Greg had has a lot of 664 00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:45.039 great thoughts on Willie Mays. I would love to get you to take your 665 00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:47.639 callege five two zero, four one, six seventy four forty If you have 666 00:43:47.679 --> 00:43:51.840 a memory of Willie Mays, there should be a lot of people in Tucson 667 00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:54.800 who actually either met him or at least saw him. The Cleveland Indians were 668 00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:59.960 in spring training or spring training here back when when when Mays was played. 669 00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:07.760 I found out today that actually Willie Mays, Willie McCovey, and Orlando sopated 670 00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:12.719 three greats all in the Hall of Fame for the Giants stayed at my aunt 671 00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:15.920 and uncle's house for a weekend when they came down here and we're playing some 672 00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:20.199 games here. My aunt uncle were out of town. They were looking for 673 00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:22.320 a place to say that stay. That wasn't kind of a time where, 674 00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:27.840 you know, these players would stay in the nicest hotels they are sometimes that 675 00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:30.599 they had in spring training. They had to find places to live a lot 676 00:44:30.599 --> 00:44:36.599 of my My uncle was good friends with somebody in the in the Cleveland front 677 00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:39.800 office. He knew all the Cleveland Indians. I'm I specifically remember meeting a 678 00:44:39.800 --> 00:44:45.239 shortstop for the for the Indian named Victavalio so there's probably some people in this 679 00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:50.199 town who know that name and remember the Indians. And my brother told me 680 00:44:50.239 --> 00:44:52.800 the story today that, Yeah, these three guys came and stayed at my 681 00:44:52.800 --> 00:44:55.039 aunt uncle's house while they were playing, uh, while they're playing the Indians 682 00:44:55.199 --> 00:44:58.920 in spring training down here. You know, they used to train right up 683 00:44:58.920 --> 00:45:01.679 in Casa Grand at the uh at the the hotel is still there, the 684 00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:05.920 field is still there, but you know, they've all the teams are scattered 685 00:45:06.039 --> 00:45:08.159 up to Phoenix. But uh, it was a big deal for for that 686 00:45:08.440 --> 00:45:12.360 for that town. It sort of put them on the map. Cassi Ground 687 00:45:12.519 --> 00:45:15.079 I think exists because they had spring training there for so many years. And 688 00:45:15.760 --> 00:45:21.320 I'm sure I'm sure I saw some spring training games that Willie May has played 689 00:45:21.360 --> 00:45:23.320 in. I don't have memories of him, but I'm sure I did because 690 00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:25.519 I did good. You know, we'd go to spring training games. So 691 00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:29.679 I'm sure that a lot of people here who maybe have had had an experience 692 00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:30.880 with him. If you did, and you'd love to you want to share 693 00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:34.920 that with us, We'd love to hear from you. Five T zero four 694 00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:40.119 one six seventy four. All right, what else is going on? We? 695 00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:44.920 As we mentioned you know the the uh, the NBA Draft is coming 696 00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:49.599 up next Uh, you know, uh, it's gonna be interesting to see, 697 00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:54.440 you know, de Pelly Larson and uh and uh uh Keishad Johnson, 698 00:45:54.840 --> 00:45:58.880 you know outside out of mind right, well, we've already forgotten those guys, 699 00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:01.199 uh are going to get drafted. I think they're both on the draft 700 00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:07.360 on the month draft. But was he where did you last see him? 701 00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:12.760 Wow? So even getting close to the first round because now it's split up 702 00:46:12.760 --> 00:46:16.000 into two days, right right, Well, you know, you know you 703 00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:20.079 hope for the best from Look, Keishaw Johnson is a is a talented guy. 704 00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:22.480 We know. You know that the guys his size, they have to 705 00:46:22.519 --> 00:46:25.440 have an outside shot. He showed that a little bit towards the end of 706 00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:29.880 last season, but really didn't have that over the course of his career. 707 00:46:30.320 --> 00:46:32.800 It's something that he'd have to pick up if in fact, if in fact 708 00:46:34.079 --> 00:46:37.440 he does but if he's moving you say, he saw him at thirty seven, 709 00:46:37.159 --> 00:46:42.079 so that would be Minnesota, the timber Wolves. You know, he's 710 00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:45.800 a good physical player. Pelly Larson I thought was a good shooter, you 711 00:46:45.840 --> 00:46:49.639 know, like like everybody else in Arizona in the in the n CUAA tournament. 712 00:46:49.639 --> 00:46:53.400 They didn't shoot for a craft. But you know PELLEL Larson, you 713 00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:57.679 know, when when he went up for a three, I always thought he 714 00:46:57.719 --> 00:47:00.679 was gonna make it, even more so than Catleb B. Love. He 715 00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:04.639 didn't shoot as often as Caleb Love, but you thought if Pella was open 716 00:47:04.719 --> 00:47:07.519 for three, he was going to hit it. And so we'll see. 717 00:47:07.559 --> 00:47:10.159 But again, he's one of those tweener guys. He's not quick enough as 718 00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:15.679 a tall guy to maybe you know, be a great defensive player. But 719 00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:19.400 he was a good defensive player in college. So we'll see what happens there. 720 00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:22.440 But you know, it'll be a strating to see if if either of 721 00:47:22.440 --> 00:47:25.039 those two guys get drafted. Do you know that at the very least they 722 00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:30.039 will get an opportunity whether it's as a free agent or or G league or 723 00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:32.480 whatever, but it'll it, you know, you hope the best for them. 724 00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:37.280 The draft is next week. It's on actually next Wednesday, the twenty 725 00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:40.559 six so the twenty sixth and the twenty seven they do it in Brooklyn at 726 00:47:40.559 --> 00:47:45.599 the Barclay Center and it'll be on ABC. So I you know, I 727 00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:49.360 hope, you know, again, all most of these guys All they want 728 00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:52.000 is a shot. Just give you a chance, get me on the court, 729 00:47:52.119 --> 00:47:54.159 let me show what I got and then if you don't think I got 730 00:47:54.159 --> 00:47:58.679 it, fine. That's all they're looking for is an opportunity. So we'll 731 00:47:58.679 --> 00:48:01.639 see if anybody, anybody gets it's that it's you should be fun, all 732 00:48:01.760 --> 00:48:08.039 right. We talked a little bit about about Rory McElroy after losing the US 733 00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:15.199 Open. He was kind of grumpy, didn't didn't congratulate in person at least 734 00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:19.039 Bryson de Shambo just left, didn't do any of the media stuff like that. 735 00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:22.280 He's issued a couple of statements since then, congratulating to Shambo, saying 736 00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.960 he's gonna take some time off at least three weeks, so he's not playing 737 00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:30.559 in This week is one of those select tournaments where it's a limited field, 738 00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:37.519 usually seventy two. It's seventy one because Rory decided not to play. He's 739 00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:40.679 not gonna play for a few weeks and then he's gonna get ready for the 740 00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:45.880 Scottish Open and the British Open which comes up next month. But you know, 741 00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:51.119 a lot of discussion Rory's his sportsmanship. You know, he's sort of 742 00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:55.519 been the picture or the poster boy for the PGA Tour versus Live Tour, 743 00:48:55.920 --> 00:49:00.559 and I say he's a bad sport a live tour guy won the tournament, 744 00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:04.119 you know, was that part of it? All those kinds of things that 745 00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:07.199 are being thrown in there as part of it. So I don't know. 746 00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:12.679 I like Rory. He was going through some marital stuff and announced that he 747 00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:15.559 was keeping his marriage going and stuff like that. Look, Rory is a 748 00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:20.280 good guy. He's always been a good guy. You know, if he 749 00:49:21.239 --> 00:49:23.239 seemed if he was grumpy for a little while, cut him some slack, 750 00:49:23.679 --> 00:49:29.239 is what I say. You know, he's good for the game. He'll 751 00:49:29.239 --> 00:49:32.400 probably come out later once he's kind of processed all this and gotten through it, 752 00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:36.880 and he'll talk more about about how that all ended up. I know. 753 00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:40.039 I mean, he missed a three foot but that could have won the 754 00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:43.920 US Open or at least gotten them into a player. Well, he missed 755 00:49:43.920 --> 00:49:45.679 two of them that would have won it. You know, how bad do 756 00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:49.559 you feel, especially since it's been so long since he won a major? 757 00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:52.559 So I feel bad for the guy, But you know, give him a 758 00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:57.000 chance to bounce back and he'll we'll see what happens. So good, good 759 00:49:57.000 --> 00:50:00.000 for Raorri. All right, what else? What else, Henry? What 760 00:50:00.000 --> 00:50:04.880 else do we have on our mind? Well, I was just going to 761 00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:08.320 go back to the conversation with about the suns. I feel like a big 762 00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:12.920 conversation last year. So I didn't have a point guard. That was a 763 00:50:13.000 --> 00:50:15.800 huge thing. So I'll be interested to see if they look for a point 764 00:50:15.800 --> 00:50:21.679 guard instead of just had a Booker or right, Well, you feel like 765 00:50:21.719 --> 00:50:29.840 Devin Booker, it doesn't need the added responsibility right of being the point guard 766 00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:32.360 that you got to cut him loose, you know, as as as a 767 00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:37.880 scorer on the side, get him the ball instead of having him get you 768 00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:39.559 the ball. Okay, a good job of that life, right, but 769 00:50:39.639 --> 00:50:44.079 that's not when he's focusing all on that, it takes away from the other 770 00:50:44.119 --> 00:50:46.119 parts of his game. Yeah, you feel like you feel like you want 771 00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:51.599 to cut him loose a little bit. You know, I'm not a believer 772 00:50:51.639 --> 00:50:53.400 in Kevin Durant. I'm just not. I know he'll go down as one 773 00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:59.519 of the greatest players ever because because of his skill set as a seven footer. 774 00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:04.119 But you know, would he have won a championship if he hadn't gone 775 00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:07.079 to the Warriors to win one? Right? I don't feel like you, 776 00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:14.719 right, And he's right exactly, you know, And so it's gonna interesting 777 00:51:14.719 --> 00:51:16.199 to see what the sons do here. And as if Jody says, they 778 00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:21.480 go get themselves a good wing guy who can just you know, provide some 779 00:51:21.519 --> 00:51:24.480 support and take some pressure off some of these guys. But you know, 780 00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:29.320 I kind of agree with you. They need a point guard, a true 781 00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:32.920 point guard, you know, even if it's TJ McConnell, right, somebody 782 00:51:32.960 --> 00:51:37.159 like that who can just kind of run the show and let Booker do what 783 00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:40.000 Booker does, Let Kevin Durant do what Kevin Durant does, Let those guys 784 00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:45.079 do what they do. Certainly they've got the talent, you know, with 785 00:51:45.159 --> 00:51:49.719 those three guys. Who has more guys other than the Celtics, right, 786 00:51:50.199 --> 00:51:52.880 They've got five guys that are all really good. But aside from them, 787 00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:57.039 who's got more than three guys that you say, okay, those guys you 788 00:51:57.079 --> 00:52:00.599 can win with. But Jody seems a firm believe that they don't have a 789 00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:05.719 championship team right now and it's gonna take a while. Well, their caps 790 00:52:05.719 --> 00:52:08.400 space, they have no capspace, have any assets. They traded all that 791 00:52:08.559 --> 00:52:13.800 for Kad, So I think funny enough. A player they could really use 792 00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:20.719 right now is like a Chris Paul who yeah but you know, yeah, 793 00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:23.480 okay, somebody like that, but younger, yeah right, and doesn't have 794 00:52:23.519 --> 00:52:28.840 to be as good as Chris Paul. Right. Just somebody serviceable, right, 795 00:52:28.960 --> 00:52:32.199 somebody serviceable who can run the run the team and uh and and uh 796 00:52:32.239 --> 00:52:36.199 and let them and let them do what they do. All right, we're 797 00:52:36.239 --> 00:52:37.280 here at the top of the hour. We're gonna take our breakaway to come 798 00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:40.199 back. Uh, Henry's got some breaking news. And then we're gonna have 799 00:52:40.280 --> 00:52:45.119 Judy McDermott from first T two song coming on. Oh, she's gonna be 800 00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:47.280 coming on at four thirty five. So we're gonna have two segments where you 801 00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:51.559 can even give us call five two zero, four, one six four forty. 802 00:52:51.559 --> 00:52:52.159 We'll be right back.