WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.680 --> 00:00:07.719 This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez Son Fox Sports 2 00:00:07.759 --> 00:00:13.679 fourteen fifty powered by Nova Insurance Services. I'm sure your most prized possessions. 3 00:00:13.800 --> 00:00:18.719 Kati z R two SA at iHeartRadio Station. Good, good afternoon, everybody. 4 00:00:18.800 --> 00:00:22.399 Welcome to I on the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm 5 00:00:22.399 --> 00:00:26.359 Steve, He's Jay. We got our guy. What's your name? And 6 00:00:26.800 --> 00:00:30.839 that'st Henry in today should I should know you're going to be a check on 7 00:00:30.879 --> 00:00:36.280 that he'ld be a tax ride off this year. Welcome to Wednesday's show, 8 00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:41.240 everybody. We are number five two O four one six seventy four forty talk 9 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:43.560 about a lot of different things. We have a kind of a different show 10 00:00:43.600 --> 00:00:46.920 again today Yep, yep a little bit. We're gonna talk some more FC 11 00:00:47.039 --> 00:00:50.880 two s on today, this time with their coach, Sebastian Pineda. I 12 00:00:50.880 --> 00:00:54.560 believe he's in his first year, right and he's got the uh he's got 13 00:00:54.600 --> 00:00:58.399 the FC two song in the playoffs. Uh. You know, yesterday we 14 00:00:58.439 --> 00:01:04.400 talked to John Perlman more I'm an organization and team gold standpoint right with the 15 00:01:04.560 --> 00:01:08.239 with Sebastian today we'll talk more about his team, how they've done this year, 16 00:01:08.680 --> 00:01:12.040 why he thinks they're in the playoffs and you know, well, I 17 00:01:12.079 --> 00:01:15.280 mean obviously he probably thinks that they've got a shot at this, but we'll 18 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:19.159 see. You know why he thinks that and some of his key players that 19 00:01:19.200 --> 00:01:22.280 type of stuff is because they got a playoff game here in Tucson on Friday 20 00:01:22.319 --> 00:01:25.400 night, right And in the second hour, we're going to talk to old 21 00:01:25.400 --> 00:01:32.599 friend Chrissy Permercy Layton and names from me, So we're going to talk to 22 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:37.359 her about the Olympics upcoming, just how they were, the experiences and like 23 00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:40.879 that, and what are they going through now, you know, before getting 24 00:01:40.879 --> 00:01:42.599 close to it, So what what's it like in these last couple of weeks 25 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:47.159 before you actually get there? And and uh and start thinking, well, 26 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:49.000 you're thinking about a competition all the time, but you know now and now 27 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:52.680 it's kind of like okay, ready to go? And uh, you know, 28 00:01:52.680 --> 00:01:56.439 how do you how do you know if you if you're ready? And 29 00:01:56.480 --> 00:01:59.799 how do you and what tells you that you might not be ready? Right 30 00:01:59.799 --> 00:02:02.319 then? Like you got two or three weeks before an event of what do 31 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:06.840 you do? Do you not eat ice cream? Do you not you're not 32 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:09.400 getting an uber. You're not go out. You're not go out, You're 33 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:13.280 not go out in the street. Don't mess around in Brazil. Probably don't 34 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:19.960 go to canes. I'm seeing canes drink glass in here. You don't need 35 00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:24.240 ice cream from the QT. So yeah, just you know, what, 36 00:02:24.240 --> 00:02:28.000 what are these last few weeks like when you know you've been preparing for this, 37 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:30.240 you know so many some of these folks for four eight years. You 38 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:35.280 know what are these last few weeks like? As you as the competition gets 39 00:02:35.319 --> 00:02:38.599 close, right right, it's been a while since you was in the Olympics. 40 00:02:38.599 --> 00:02:40.639 But she knows a lot of the people obviously, and what it takes 41 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:45.199 to get there. Okay, that's cool. Uh, And we says we 42 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:50.759 slowly get ready for football that's coming up in two weeks now, almost two 43 00:02:50.800 --> 00:02:54.840 weeks from today, that they start practicing already already it's just about here, 44 00:02:57.199 --> 00:03:00.719 okay cool. Yeah, well a and you're welcome to anybody who took my 45 00:03:01.360 --> 00:03:08.560 suggested bet yesterday. Yeah, over eight over seven American American League minus one 46 00:03:08.599 --> 00:03:13.800 and a half and over seven or seven you put it. I didn't bet, 47 00:03:13.960 --> 00:03:15.840 my friend asked me, so I said it to him. Well, 48 00:03:15.879 --> 00:03:17.400 I didn't. I didn't even watch it. I got home and show he 49 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:21.159 goes yard, and I was really upset at myself. He started it right, 50 00:03:21.280 --> 00:03:24.000 Yeah, I planned. I had planned to get home and and put 51 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:27.599 just you know, five bucks on him hitting a home ern. Yeah, 52 00:03:27.599 --> 00:03:29.479 what was it for the fun of it? I don't even know. I 53 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:31.639 didn't even look. And then I just didn't do it because I got home 54 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:35.560 and I started watching the game. I was posting the podcast, I was 55 00:03:35.599 --> 00:03:38.560 just doing stuff, and I got the game on where I'm sitting and boom, 56 00:03:38.599 --> 00:03:40.840 he goes yard and there was a no doubt. Yeah it was no 57 00:03:40.879 --> 00:03:43.800 doubt. Yeah, so I guess who was a good game. I didn't 58 00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:45.479 watch it. Like I said, it was a fun game. Yeah, 59 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:47.639 you know it was. It was tight till the end, with the exception 60 00:03:47.800 --> 00:03:53.520 of the uniforms. Oh they look bad, My god, don't they don't 61 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:58.000 they realize it look bad? Doesn't somebody look at that and go, you 62 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:01.000 know what, that doesn't look really good? You know, it just doesn't. 63 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:04.080 But that's again, Jay, I think it's like the head guy or 64 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:06.639 whoever the head guy is, says I want to do it, and then 65 00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:10.639 you have people who says okay, and don't have enough guts to tell the 66 00:04:10.680 --> 00:04:14.080 guy don't do that, don't do that, don't do that. I'm sure 67 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:15.920 have you been in a situation like that? Oh yeah, you just say 68 00:04:16.000 --> 00:04:19.879 okay, what you know, you know that should not be the decision, 69 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:24.600 but you don't step up and say that should not be the right right because 70 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:28.040 it could be your ass. It's so they were so bad. Yeah, 71 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:30.399 I say, were awful. I didn't who told the blue ones the blue 72 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:35.519 they were? They were black with with kind of teal sleeve. That's what 73 00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:39.480 I saw, you know. You know, I'm like, those are bad 74 00:04:39.800 --> 00:04:44.079 slow pitch. Those the National look good, playing good. Those those were 75 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:47.360 bad slow pitch softball. I wouldn't wear that at sports park, all right. 76 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:50.439 They were awful. And then and then the American League, where you 77 00:04:50.519 --> 00:04:55.000 know, we're not a hell of a lot better, they were cream with 78 00:04:55.319 --> 00:05:00.000 like orange, and I'm like, what are you doing? What are you 79 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:03.240 doing? You know, they're so bad? Okay, they're so bad that 80 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:09.639 it's got uh, it's it's got the people. It's got people saying they 81 00:05:09.759 --> 00:05:15.600 have to go back to wearing their their their uniforms. Where your home, 82 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:16.959 you know, if you're the home team wear your home uniform. If you're 83 00:05:17.000 --> 00:05:21.279 the visitors. Everybody where they're visiting uniform and back to wearing. I mean, 84 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:24.240 you know, they say, well you're going there. They're trying to 85 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:29.079 market and they're you know, they're selling. Who's gonna buy that? You're 86 00:05:29.160 --> 00:05:34.720 right, a bad softball time, you know. I I've I've when I 87 00:05:34.800 --> 00:05:39.279 joke about Betty from Dog saying I wouldn't let my dog have puppies on that 88 00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:42.879 uniform. Okay, I wouldn't put it at the bottom of the box for 89 00:05:42.959 --> 00:05:46.279 the for the dog to have puppies. They were they were the worst. 90 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:49.040 I turned it on. I'm like, what are we what are we looking 91 00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:55.160 at? Well? Look bad play baths, you know it got it was 92 00:05:55.240 --> 00:06:00.319 just you know, and and look I again, we're going to could get 93 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:05.040 off my lawn territory. I just loved back in the day when these guys 94 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:10.680 took this game seriously, right, Pete Rose running over the catcher, you 95 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:13.480 know at home base, you know, pictures going in there, you know, 96 00:06:14.079 --> 00:06:15.319 and trying to and trying to strike everybody. Yeah, you know, 97 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:19.439 guys are just playing hard like a real game, like a World Series game, 98 00:06:19.959 --> 00:06:21.959 you know. And and I get I get you know, you're trying 99 00:06:21.959 --> 00:06:25.439 to get the younger audience. You know, you're putting microphones on the guys. 100 00:06:25.639 --> 00:06:28.360 There's two two guys in the outfield and they're talking to each other, 101 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:30.680 you know, Juan Soto and and and and and Aaron Judge are talking to 102 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:35.600 each other. And like tells me, are they even watching the batter on? 103 00:06:35.639 --> 00:06:39.959 What's going on? And I'm like, on the one hand, yeah, 104 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:42.720 you know that. But on the other hand, I'm like, these 105 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:46.160 guys don't give one crap about those games. That's part of the thing that 106 00:06:46.240 --> 00:06:49.680 I've written about and just ranted about. Uh, I don't like pregame or 107 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:53.120 court. Are you talking to the coach at the quarters or whatever? And 108 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:55.920 halftime? Just start a time out? What is it? What does it 109 00:06:56.000 --> 00:06:58.759 matter? That's that nothing to do with anything? And I guess that's the 110 00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:00.279 way the kids like it. Yeah, I don't to me, you know. 111 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:02.959 You know. The funny thing is in our business back in the day, 112 00:07:03.079 --> 00:07:05.720 j uh do you have a boss to say, do this story? 113 00:07:06.120 --> 00:07:11.480 Do this story the people want to know? Really? Do the people really 114 00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:14.360 want to know? Or are we giving it to them thinking they want to 115 00:07:14.360 --> 00:07:17.560 know? That's what they're doing. They're things and look, I'm not I'm 116 00:07:17.560 --> 00:07:20.439 not gonna Sometimes it's been interesting when they do that during the regular season, 117 00:07:20.480 --> 00:07:23.600 right, guys, they got a guy in left field, he's got a 118 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:27.839 microphone on and they're talking to him. The play comes his way, but 119 00:07:27.879 --> 00:07:30.399 this chitter chatter that was going on with a couple of guys in the field 120 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:33.519 and they're they're yapping, and you say, dude, somebody's gonna hit the 121 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:36.480 ball. You're not gonna see it because you're looking at him, right, 122 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:41.399 You know, those kinds of things that it just to me. I guess 123 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:47.360 we've gone way past the time where the All Star Game is a serious thing, 124 00:07:47.680 --> 00:07:50.759 right, right, all All Star games, none of them are serious. 125 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:56.079 I would assume there are very few people under thirty that listen to us. 126 00:07:56.120 --> 00:07:59.000 But if you do, call us and do you think it's this is 127 00:07:59.040 --> 00:08:03.839 for you, guys a fun Yeah. Do you enjoy a game where you 128 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:07.639 feel like, one, nobody really cares about who wins, and two are 129 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:11.360 they you know, are they giving their best effort out there? You know, 130 00:08:11.879 --> 00:08:16.000 go back and look up Pete Rose and Ray Fosse, And that's what 131 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:20.519 the All Star Game used to be. You know, guys used to pictures 132 00:08:20.560 --> 00:08:24.720 used to throw it guys because you know, they they they were competitors. 133 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:30.519 They wanted to win that game. And and that that again, that went 134 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:33.279 out the door a long time ago. I get it, and we're the 135 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:37.159 generation that misses that. But you know, for inner, you know, 136 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:39.039 what are you entertained by? Right? Are you entertained by a game where 137 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:43.000 guys are going all out to win it? Or are you entertained by a 138 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:46.799 game where guys are just kind of having to having fun and and talking to 139 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:50.639 each other out in the field and doing whatever they do. Is that a 140 00:08:50.679 --> 00:08:52.080 fun game for you? Do you enjoy that? If you do, then 141 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:56.320 we you know, then our boats sailed a long time ago. See and 142 00:08:56.320 --> 00:08:58.960 and where you know again as we as we say often we're not the demo 143 00:09:00.080 --> 00:09:03.799 graphic and that's fine, But then those are those damn uniforms. I know 144 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:07.200 those aren't for us, that's for sure. No, I mean, I'm 145 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:09.279 serious. I wouldn't put I mean, I'd throw that jersey, you know, 146 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:13.600 under this under my spare tire in the trunk of my car, you 147 00:09:13.639 --> 00:09:15.399 know, and that's where it would stay. It was. They were just 148 00:09:15.519 --> 00:09:22.480 awful. So I don't know the baseball all Star Game was always the one 149 00:09:22.519 --> 00:09:26.080 all star game where you thought guys really wanted to win, right, The 150 00:09:26.120 --> 00:09:30.240 Pro Bowl was there. You know, the Pro Bowl's gone so bad that 151 00:09:30.279 --> 00:09:33.679 didn't just play flag football now. But you know, even back in the 152 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:35.519 day, the Pro Bowl, guys just didn't want to get hurt. The 153 00:09:35.639 --> 00:09:39.519 NBA, the NBA All Star Game, you know, guys just wanted to 154 00:09:39.559 --> 00:09:43.360 score, but they kept trying to keep the other team from scoring occasionally. 155 00:09:43.840 --> 00:09:46.480 You know, they don't do that anymore obviously, so it's kind of like 156 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:48.799 we've lost it. You watch. So did you watch all of it? 157 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:52.879 The All Star Game? Yeah? Pretty much. I was working. I 158 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:54.799 had to work to do last night, so I'm sitting at my desk. 159 00:09:54.039 --> 00:09:56.679 The game is on. Uh you know, I stopped a few times and 160 00:09:56.759 --> 00:10:00.159 watch what was going on. I watched the last couple of endings. It 161 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:05.679 was close. Yeah, I did, but so I you know, I 162 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:09.399 had to. I wanted to stick my finger down and I wasted my time. 163 00:10:11.320 --> 00:10:16.639 I'm gonna say, no, well, yeah, right, I'm gonna 164 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:18.639 say if I wasn't working where, you know, I had to be at 165 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:22.759 my desk and the TV's on right there, what I've gone and sat down 166 00:10:22.799 --> 00:10:28.600 and watched the game. Maybe maybe not. You know, we had dinner, 167 00:10:28.960 --> 00:10:31.279 you know, during the game, so we had the game on. 168 00:10:31.320 --> 00:10:35.080 I ate dinner, went to my desk, and I turned it back on 169 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:39.600 over there. I might have gone late on the couch, but also might 170 00:10:39.639 --> 00:10:43.840 have you know, been scrolling social media and stuff like that, not intently 171 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:46.799 watching the game. Like I know that I used to, you know, 172 00:10:46.159 --> 00:10:48.960 when I did it those times, those days when it was it was in 173 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:52.759 the day, right, it was a day game for us. It came 174 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:56.120 on and came out at eleven o'clock in the morning to some time, which 175 00:10:56.159 --> 00:10:58.559 was cool. It was a summer so we weren't in school, so we 176 00:10:58.600 --> 00:11:03.320 got to walk. You know, those times too, were very cool. 177 00:11:03.440 --> 00:11:05.559 I'm not saying make it, make it a day game. All I'm saying 178 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:09.799 is that it's lost what we get, Yeah, lost what we had. 179 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:11.360 Like I said, I don't even know half the people, more than half 180 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:16.559 the people on the damn rosters. In fact, Victor, mister mister nice 181 00:11:16.600 --> 00:11:18.320 guy saying that we're the bad guys. Oh my god, you guys are 182 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:22.080 old. Yeah, host we are well okay, but damn Patrick made a 183 00:11:22.080 --> 00:11:28.759 great point today. There were thirty two first time All Stars. Okay, 184 00:11:28.879 --> 00:11:31.360 okay, he said, you know they came up. I had no idea 185 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:33.320 who they were. I had no idea who they played for. Right, 186 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:37.200 And if they're out there in their uniforms, Now you know Gunner Henderson is 187 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:41.759 an oreole, right, you know all the you know these guys, you 188 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:43.120 know who they are? Right now? We don't? You know, there's 189 00:11:43.159 --> 00:11:46.360 so many, you know, I mean everybody. You think everybody knows Paul 190 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:50.519 Skans, but does everybody know he plays for? You're right? No, 191 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:52.159 Actually, that's that's a good point. That's a great point because if you 192 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:56.600 want to market with the teams and the playbook people and the players, yeah, 193 00:11:56.840 --> 00:11:58.919 Mark, you know, let us know who they are, right, 194 00:12:00.440 --> 00:12:03.960 You're I still don't know. I know Tani, I know Bryce Harper played, 195 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:07.679 I know Paul Skeen's played. I know uh Ti, Oscar Hernandez played. 196 00:12:09.039 --> 00:12:11.639 You know, ask me to name another one. I couldn't tell you 197 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:16.879 did Aaron George played. Cruz was in the game. He got in the 198 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:20.440 game late there and there you go, he gets a base hit and and 199 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:22.639 they show him turning the base. I'm like, who's that, Oh, 200 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:24.799 it's Elie Dela Cruz. If he'd have been in a REDS uniform out of 201 00:12:26.559 --> 00:12:31.799 Elie de la Cruz. That's the kind of thing I think we're forgetting that 202 00:12:31.919 --> 00:12:33.399 they used to do. The winner of the All Star Game gets that's the 203 00:12:33.559 --> 00:12:39.360 advantage that was dumb, see, and that that was a sign that the 204 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:43.799 game didn't matter to the guys. You shouldn't need that. You should want 205 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:46.000 to win this game. It's an All Star game. Have some pride in 206 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:50.120 your league and go win the game. That's that's what I'm talking about. 207 00:12:50.399 --> 00:12:56.240 They put that in because they called a tie, and and nobody gave it. 208 00:12:56.360 --> 00:12:58.960 Even after they put that in, still nobody gave a crap about the 209 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:01.159 game. The guy whose team was in the last place, where did he 210 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:05.320 give a crap about who was going to get home field advantage? He didn't. 211 00:13:05.960 --> 00:13:09.440 So that's what I'm saying. We've got a generation of of of players 212 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:13.240 in this game who really don't care one way or another if they win the 213 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:16.720 game. Yeah, and that's I'm saddened by that because it used to be 214 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:20.639 so so cool. I looked forward to the All Star Game. Now it's 215 00:13:20.679 --> 00:13:24.320 kind of Oh, the All Star Game is on Tuesday, Okay, lotch 216 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:28.879 You know, well, you can get off on or rock whatever, turfle 217 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:31.120 on vic. I know I'm old, Okay, I know I'm old. 218 00:13:31.639 --> 00:13:33.639 Yeah that was you know, like I said, I didn't watch it. 219 00:13:33.559 --> 00:13:35.840 It didn't care too well, there you go, right, you didn't care 220 00:13:35.879 --> 00:13:43.639 to I you know, I'm just I just don't understand how you get into 221 00:13:43.639 --> 00:13:46.799 a game like that. You really don't compete, right, Okay, let's 222 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:52.440 just go to break here. We're gonna give to mister the head coach. 223 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:56.799 Okay, talk more a little about soccer, something that you're really getting into. 224 00:13:56.840 --> 00:14:01.320 Fall in love with bright back. 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I'm Steve Rivera, He's jacinsas 284 00:18:21.240 --> 00:18:25.160 now and if all we have Subashian Pina, the FC two son coach. 285 00:18:25.640 --> 00:18:29.559 How you doing Hi, Steve, I'm doing good? How are you we 286 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:32.400 do? Jay? And I here? You got a new soccer fan and 287 00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:36.000 Jay which is a great tea watching soccer a lot. Hey, congrats on 288 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:41.079 your first year with these guys. I think that the dumb question is, 289 00:18:41.319 --> 00:18:45.440 did you think this would happen in the first year, thank you, you 290 00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:48.480 know, I guess it was the goal from the beginning and the team would 291 00:18:48.480 --> 00:18:52.519 go for that. So I think it just talks about the job that we 292 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:56.240 have done as a club with the recurion and everything. So I'm excited where 293 00:18:56.240 --> 00:19:00.599 you know. So as you as you began the season, you know, 294 00:19:00.640 --> 00:19:03.680 everybody, everybody has hope and all those kinds of things, but you know, 295 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:07.759 one of the things that you felt you needed to do best or need 296 00:19:07.799 --> 00:19:11.480 to improve on the most in terms of you know, just on the field 297 00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:15.279 kind of stuff that you actually did and that got to guide you to where 298 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:22.480 you are in the playoffs. I think, well, first we started, 299 00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:26.960 we knew that we were bringing players from all over the plays, all over 300 00:19:26.039 --> 00:19:30.279 the world, different cultures, so it was important for us to how quickly 301 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:34.319 can we get this group together, to understand importance, to get to know 302 00:19:34.359 --> 00:19:37.480 your storry, to build chemistry. And once we got to that point, 303 00:19:37.720 --> 00:19:45.119 and I think I my aim was to keep the tactical side very similar to 304 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:48.359 what they do back in their schools or wherever they were coming from, and 305 00:19:48.400 --> 00:19:52.119 that way we were able to find success quicker. And I think that that 306 00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:56.000 was the goal from the beginnings where we try and it worked well throughout the 307 00:19:56.000 --> 00:20:00.160 season. So do you have a part in putting the team together? Is 308 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:03.480 it all on Perlman? That was a little bit of ball, but it 309 00:20:03.599 --> 00:20:07.960 was heavy on me this year. He helped me just with advice and put 310 00:20:08.039 --> 00:20:11.960 him in contact with people, but I made the decisions to bring the players 311 00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:14.759 in, so you kind of know. So you must then be a coach 312 00:20:14.799 --> 00:20:18.200 where the pieces fit. You're not You're a coach, but you're also a 313 00:20:18.240 --> 00:20:21.240 piece guy where you put the people in the right positions because that's what they 314 00:20:21.240 --> 00:20:25.480 play correct, I think, and that's a big part of the summer league 315 00:20:25.559 --> 00:20:27.559 because we don't have enough time to work that hard. So you have to 316 00:20:27.599 --> 00:20:32.960 bring the right people, the right players, everything that that fits the club. 317 00:20:33.000 --> 00:20:36.079 Really Okay, So if you if you look at your team, he 318 00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:41.079 said, you know these one, two or three things are the things about 319 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:45.079 my team that made us you know who we are, whether it's you know, 320 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:48.960 your character, your defense, your offense, or whatever. What are 321 00:20:48.000 --> 00:20:52.200 the things that characterize your team that you know, you feel or what made 322 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:57.279 you you know, have have the season that you've had so far. I 323 00:20:57.920 --> 00:21:03.200 think we start with the ability the personal bit, the ability of have different 324 00:21:03.240 --> 00:21:06.400 goal scorers. If you look at the goals I was for, we got 325 00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:10.640 many people scoring goals, so that made us strong. I think in that 326 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:15.759 way Trips we were very strong defensively, were able to get points away because 327 00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:19.079 of our defense, especially away. And then the last thing I would say, 328 00:21:19.240 --> 00:21:23.240 I think has to come down to the players. How they got to 329 00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:26.640 know each other quick, how they got to fit I had. They got 330 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:30.319 to understand the language that we're trying to say, and that's credit to the 331 00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:33.599 players for that. I should know where you're from. So where are you 332 00:21:33.759 --> 00:21:37.359 from? And this must be your first few months in Tucson. Well, 333 00:21:37.759 --> 00:21:42.119 I'm from Columbia Originally, I believe in the US for a while. Came 334 00:21:42.160 --> 00:21:47.319 to Tucson two years ago with Prolman. He brought me in as one of 335 00:21:47.359 --> 00:21:52.400 the systems for the USL League One team, So you know, I've been 336 00:21:52.440 --> 00:21:55.519 able to see that side. I was last year with Mark and then this 337 00:21:55.680 --> 00:22:00.680 year was my opportunity. But I get to learn from those two guys have 338 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:03.960 been my mentors for some years now. So let me say this, and 339 00:22:03.000 --> 00:22:07.359 this is a philosophy. It probably doesn't apply to you because I'm already apologizing 340 00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:11.720 for myself. So I've always been a guy who says, up, you 341 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:14.319 say the head coach, and you were an assistant for the head coach last 342 00:22:14.400 --> 00:22:17.680 year, right, So the head coach leaves, the head coach leaves, 343 00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:21.400 and the assistant takes over. Many times, at least in my view, 344 00:22:22.039 --> 00:22:25.720 that doesn't work because you were as an assistant. The players look at you 345 00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:30.200 differently, and it's like the substitute teacher coming in to run this class when 346 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:33.559 the kids already know that you're the substitute teacher, if that makes any sense. 347 00:22:33.920 --> 00:22:36.720 But let me again, let me think this or say this. You 348 00:22:36.799 --> 00:22:40.839 must have a lot of different players from last year who respect the hell out 349 00:22:40.880 --> 00:22:45.240 of you and play hard for you. Yeah. Well, the plan was 350 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:51.480 we only brought back three or four players from last year, and then we 351 00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:55.000 added a lot of academy players. I was the academy coach for the last 352 00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:56.680 few years, so I had that connection with those guys. I was the 353 00:22:56.759 --> 00:23:00.000 plan for the club to have more too, so guys be part of this 354 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:03.319 year's roster, and I think it has worked well. So I've seen so 355 00:23:03.400 --> 00:23:07.319 many guys is get in a lot of minutes, and then the guys from 356 00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:11.160 out of town, brand new guys that just trusted my what I was saying 357 00:23:11.160 --> 00:23:15.680 and what I was trying to do here with the club. So I want 358 00:23:15.680 --> 00:23:18.640 to go to that. My philosophy kind of sticks still because you you don't 359 00:23:18.680 --> 00:23:22.039 have a lot of the old guys, you have the new guys. Right. 360 00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:26.640 Yeah, And Okay, so you're you step into these head coaching shoes 361 00:23:26.839 --> 00:23:30.079 and maybe I'll just ask you what kind of a head coach do you think 362 00:23:30.119 --> 00:23:36.759 you are? I'll go, you know, it's the first year as a 363 00:23:36.799 --> 00:23:40.160 head coach, so I've been getting to know myself as a head coach this 364 00:23:40.240 --> 00:23:42.839 year, a lot of learning experiences, but I think something that has to 365 00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:48.599 the most for myself is just I believe I have the ability to connect well 366 00:23:48.640 --> 00:23:52.079 with players, and especially in a quick season like this, is you need 367 00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:56.680 to to find the way that the players understand what you're trying to do quickly 368 00:23:57.200 --> 00:24:00.240 and that trying really to die for you. On the film, I guess 369 00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:03.599 I get the tactical side of things, very basic and simple for them, 370 00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:07.839 so we all are able to understand it. But it's just managing the humans. 371 00:24:08.079 --> 00:24:12.400 I think it's has been the part that I've been challenged the most. 372 00:24:14.039 --> 00:24:17.359 That's funny because I think you you hit it on the head. I think 373 00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:21.960 that coaches coach one way. But if you know how to manage people and 374 00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:25.240 know, like you said, put them in the right spots. And this 375 00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:27.359 is not brain surgery, but if you know how to how to deal with 376 00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:33.079 people, you're going to be good at what you do correct And that's that's 377 00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:37.799 key for for what we're trying to do this summer. So I'm where we're 378 00:24:37.799 --> 00:24:41.319 at, so hopefully I'm doing a good job with that. We're talking to 379 00:24:41.359 --> 00:24:45.799 Sebastian Pineta, the head head coach at FC two so on in the playoffs 380 00:24:45.880 --> 00:24:48.759 this Friday night, So Sebastian, you know, in terms of all of 381 00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:53.920 that, then along the way where there are times where as the head coach, 382 00:24:53.960 --> 00:24:56.279 you kind of really didn't know what to do, what to say, 383 00:24:56.680 --> 00:25:00.039 you know, a tactic or whatever, and how how did you resolve those 384 00:25:00.279 --> 00:25:03.319 Maybe you were in a position where you could go talk to talk to John 385 00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:07.279 and you'll get some thoughts and bound some things up. No, maybe you're 386 00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:08.720 in the middle of a match and you got to deal with the situation. 387 00:25:08.799 --> 00:25:15.240 Any run into anything like that over the course of the season, you know, 388 00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:18.640 that. There's many times, and of course the conversation happened with the 389 00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:25.279 staff and we were able to deal with different situations in different games. But 390 00:25:25.359 --> 00:25:29.839 I also had a close relationship with John and we were able to find ways 391 00:25:29.839 --> 00:25:33.319 for him to be involved, even if he's a little quick shot during halftime, 392 00:25:33.359 --> 00:25:34.440 where he would come and just tell me his side of things. That 393 00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:38.759 way, it will help me just see different points of view and make decisions 394 00:25:38.759 --> 00:25:42.880 based on that. But I believe I don't know all the answers, and 395 00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:48.240 just hearing different points of view made us stronger throughout the year. Yeah, 396 00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:51.480 you know you look like you're twenty two. How old are you? Ha 397 00:25:51.480 --> 00:25:55.839 haha? I am thirty two. Take your mom and dad for your gas. 398 00:25:56.599 --> 00:26:00.880 Yeah, because the picture that we say you look for young. So, 399 00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:03.319 so is this your future kind of maybe learn how to be a coach, 400 00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:08.440 become a coach somewhere else as well as you learn well that can you 401 00:26:08.440 --> 00:26:12.839 repeat that you are you? Is this your plan to be a coach here 402 00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:18.160 and then maybe if you do well, move on? Yeah, it was 403 00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:21.599 the plan when I came two years ago. I have had the chance to 404 00:26:21.640 --> 00:26:25.119 coach at the college level for a few years and of course, when the 405 00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:30.039 pro opportunity opened up here in Suson, I trusted what John was doing and 406 00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:33.519 came in. And now, of course he keeps throw hating opportunities for me. 407 00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:37.960 I keep preparing myself and I'm also with the U of a women's team 408 00:26:37.000 --> 00:26:41.039 here in town, so I just keep preparing myself for the next step. 409 00:26:41.160 --> 00:26:44.799 That's that's really where I'm at. But what do you like about coaching? 410 00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:49.440 What what's what's your favorite thing about being a coach. Of course, I'm 411 00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:53.640 super passionate about football since I was little. Is my my first love, 412 00:26:53.720 --> 00:27:00.640 like my wife will say to me, But I think that is the ability 413 00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:06.279 to be able to no one connect with people from all over the world because 414 00:27:06.279 --> 00:27:10.799 the social globe was bored. And in my life I've been able to live 415 00:27:10.839 --> 00:27:14.839 in different countries, meet people for countries that I maybe never even thought I 416 00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:18.279 will meet people from and soccer have given me that. Like we have ten 417 00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:22.480 different countries in this team, different languages, different cultures, and I think 418 00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:26.160 that's what makes us for so great in my opinion. So there's different type 419 00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:30.079 of styles of play. What's your style? Because you've used the word tactical 420 00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:37.400 a few times. Yes, the players that we have and what I like, 421 00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:41.400 I said coach is really to have the ball. Were play in a 422 00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:45.119 four three three, which is a basic basic formation in soccer. But I 423 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:49.000 think in soccer is not much about information. It's about attacking the right space 424 00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:52.519 and moving the people where you need them to be so you can attack the 425 00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:56.640 space that is open. So we have very technical players that understand that, 426 00:27:56.839 --> 00:28:03.000 so we're able to be flexible in where where our position needs on the field. 427 00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:07.559 That way we can attack the right ways because just to have the ball 428 00:28:07.640 --> 00:28:11.359 for to have it doesn't make any sense. We want to have a purpose 429 00:28:11.359 --> 00:28:14.839 for it and you score goals. So the guys know that and we have 430 00:28:14.920 --> 00:28:18.920 work hard on that. You and out and got players who fit that. 431 00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:22.160 Who are the players that fit that? You know? What what kind of 432 00:28:22.200 --> 00:28:26.279 players do you do you try to bring to your team and what are the 433 00:28:26.559 --> 00:28:30.759 what are the characteristics you want them to have when they show up on your 434 00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:36.279 on your field. The main thing is how good they are with the ball 435 00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:38.400 right in their position. They need to they need to be able to do 436 00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:44.119 certain things all color roles or responsibilities in what they are. They are a 437 00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:47.000 center back at least you need to be able to do these things. On 438 00:28:47.039 --> 00:28:48.799 the ball, you gotta be able to have a good control. You gotta 439 00:28:48.839 --> 00:28:52.440 be able to read the press, to play from where the press is coming 440 00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:56.519 and play a path between lines. If you're number ten, you've got to 441 00:28:56.519 --> 00:28:57.640 be able to create. That means you've got to be able to play on 442 00:28:57.720 --> 00:29:00.640 tight spaces. If year are nine, you gotta be able to hold the 443 00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:04.039 ball play on their need. Then my wingers that have to be guys that 444 00:29:04.119 --> 00:29:08.720 are very good at one B one situations are going at people consistently creating chances. 445 00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:12.799 So every position has a role and technically you need to be able to 446 00:29:14.519 --> 00:29:17.960 solve the situations that the game is giving you. In the film, So 447 00:29:18.480 --> 00:29:19.880 what level did you Where did you play at? What level did you play 448 00:29:19.920 --> 00:29:26.200 at? So back home in Colombia, I played at the third division level. 449 00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:30.160 Then I went to Germany when I was seventeen to play at the Bundesliga 450 00:29:30.200 --> 00:29:34.640 academies, and then I came to the US with scholarship. Was able to 451 00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:40.480 play five years in different PDL teams now what is called the USL two teams. 452 00:29:40.799 --> 00:29:42.920 I was able to be with the Okay See Energy at the championship level 453 00:29:42.960 --> 00:29:47.640 and many multiple tryouts at the championship level as well, and then I just 454 00:29:48.160 --> 00:29:51.839 decided it was time to stop and then started coaching right away. At some 455 00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:55.039 point you decided, you say, you wanted this to continue to be your 456 00:29:55.039 --> 00:30:00.400 life as opposed to going and get into job as like a old radio host 457 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:04.079 or something like that. When when did you feel like this could be something 458 00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:08.799 you could do for you know, for a life. You know, you 459 00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:15.240 got to the point where I've been trying for so long, and you travel 460 00:30:15.279 --> 00:30:17.680 and you try, and you go here, you go there. My buddy 461 00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:22.319 was a little bit of as well, but eventually I got it. Came 462 00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:26.559 to a point where me as been internationally, it's tough to go outside my 463 00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:30.799 country and find contracts. It's not easy. So that was a big bomb 464 00:30:30.839 --> 00:30:33.200 in my career. And you know, if you ask me right now, 465 00:30:33.240 --> 00:30:37.960 maybe I wasn't good enough, but I believe I was a lead for for 466 00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:42.759 some second third division team in different countries. But that's what happened. And 467 00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:47.119 then I just loved the game too much and just continue to coase and it 468 00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:49.839 started learning and all the stuff. So you're from Watemala, do you have 469 00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:55.319 a good restaurant to recommend for us from Columbia, Well from Columbia. I'm 470 00:30:55.319 --> 00:31:00.200 sorry. Any good restaurants Columbia. There is no Columbia shouting Tuism that I 471 00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:03.920 know about. It is the one in Phoenix that I haven't tried, So 472 00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:07.799 I gotta go to Finnish. So what do you think about the Tucson food. 473 00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:14.160 It's good. I like it. I mean, it's very It's the 474 00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:18.920 spicy food, a lot tuson. You know, with the Mexican community, 475 00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:21.480 they like the spicy food, and we don't know. We're in Columbia. 476 00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:26.079 We don't need that much spicy food, so I gotta I gotta ask always 477 00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:29.279 without spicy. But but it's good. I love it. It's very similar 478 00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:33.039 to back home. So yeah, okay. So we're talking to a Sebastian 479 00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:36.839 Pananda, the head coach at FC tu Soon. So were you were you 480 00:31:36.880 --> 00:31:40.799 living and dying with the COPA Were you paying attention to that? And what 481 00:31:40.880 --> 00:31:45.119 was Sunday like for you? Uh? We actually got our game was delayed 482 00:31:45.119 --> 00:31:48.079 that day, so I was able to watch most of the game and we 483 00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:51.920 were watching with some of the Columbian guys that we have on the team all 484 00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:55.680 the way till we have to go to warm Us and we were just suffering. 485 00:31:55.720 --> 00:32:00.559 Really, its nail biting talking with people back home, as you know, 486 00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:06.119 you know, you can probably imagine when Columbia playing a final stop the 487 00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:09.240 country, everybody wasn't so yeah, it was sad. It was that what 488 00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:14.559 happened. But it's good to see the national team doing that well at the 489 00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:17.839 international level. Yeah, no question. So again, you guys played Friday 490 00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:23.200 the second game correct? Correct? Yeah, second game seven thirty ish, 491 00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:27.359 I think right. And the tickets, what do you think about the fans 492 00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:31.319 in this town? I think they always show up. Since I was a 493 00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:36.039 player player for Exstitution, they were always there, especially for playoffs. So 494 00:32:36.640 --> 00:32:40.359 I invite everybody to come and support a team this Friday night. I believe 495 00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:44.480 we have a playoff running us in the team that we have with the talent 496 00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:47.519 that we have, especially hosting in Tuision, in the Tuision heat that other 497 00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:52.799 teams are not used to. So we are waiting for lots of time to 498 00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:57.000 come and supporters. Okay, well, coach, thanks for joining us. 499 00:32:57.000 --> 00:33:00.079 Good luck to you. Thank you guys, I appreciate Yeah, well we 500 00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:05.200 might see you down there at you good luck again, Thank you very much 501 00:33:05.200 --> 00:33:08.079 about all right? Be well? Sounds like a good dude. Yeah, 502 00:33:08.240 --> 00:33:12.039 very very much. So you know is action, Hey, how you doing? 503 00:33:13.400 --> 00:33:17.039 Had a next like that? You can make one up very low. 504 00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:22.839 That one was It wasn't. It wasn't. It was like Jersey, New 505 00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:28.319 Jersey, Columbia. No, you know, look it's there's a good opportunity 506 00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:30.640 if you haven't been to one and you know to an f C two so 507 00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:32.000 on match, this is a good one to get to. Uh, it's 508 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:37.000 a playoff. A lot at stake. They as the coach said, it 509 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:39.160 feels like they've got a playoff running them. So maybe get out there on 510 00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:43.880 Friday night again. If there's three matches here this week. I didn't realize 511 00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:46.839 that was that, because there's the two and then the winners play on Sunday, 512 00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:50.759 so they might be able to catch them again on Sunday. But yeah, 513 00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:53.640 you get out and support these teams. They they work hard. It 514 00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:57.440 means a lot to them, as you can tell from from the coach, 515 00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:00.440 and they're a lot of fun. So yeah, well pearl And was already 516 00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:01.400 saying we're gonna, you know, Friday, come and see us, and 517 00:34:01.440 --> 00:34:05.079 then come again and see us on Sunday. I don't know what tend to 518 00:34:05.079 --> 00:34:07.440 Sunday again either, okay, bilthough when they go on fronatly, Okay, 519 00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:10.079 all right, we're gonna take our break. We'll come back. We'll take 520 00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:14.199 your cost five two zero four, one, six seventy. What'd you think 521 00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:17.360 of the uniforms in the All Star Game last night? I thought they were 522 00:34:17.400 --> 00:34:22.480 bad. We'll be all right back. If you're an Amazon a man's basketball 523 00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.760 fan, you know it's been successful for newly forty years. Now. Take 524 00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:29.760 a look back at the Loudolsen era. In my new book, Lessons from 525 00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:31.360 Loot. 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Hey, welcome back to Wining the Ball here on Fox Sports fourteen 552 00:36:37.239 --> 00:36:39.280 fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jay. Got a guy with us today, 553 00:36:39.559 --> 00:36:46.400 Kevin, Henry Henry Kevin. You know you don't even look like a Kevin. 554 00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:50.840 Okay. I don't know about Henry either, but that's fun. Well, 555 00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:52.440 Henry. Aren't really a lot of Henry's these days, are there? 556 00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:58.320 Yeah? Your is your dad? Henk? Call you Hank? No, 557 00:36:58.400 --> 00:37:01.440 you want Henry? Okay? Actually, thank you? What's your dad's name? 558 00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:06.639 Mark? Mark? Okay? Thank you? Henry? Uh hey, 559 00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:08.159 we got fifteen minutes. Do you guys want to call five to oh four 560 00:37:08.239 --> 00:37:12.519 one six seventy four forty. I need name text That's what I needed. 561 00:37:12.639 --> 00:37:16.400 Name texts. Oh my god, you need one from me? Uh no? 562 00:37:16.519 --> 00:37:21.039 Because I don't care. So you were saying yesterday, I want to 563 00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:28.159 miss you. Sure you are? Hey and I won't miss you. Uh, 564 00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:30.840 okay, say you want to call in and here's your chance. Five 565 00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:32.960 two o four one six four forty good to talk to. We talked a 566 00:37:34.000 --> 00:37:36.159 lot of soccer, a lot of talks on the soccer last few days. 567 00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:37.800 Yeah again that it was a soccer weekend. I mean that was that was 568 00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:40.480 some good stuff. Yeah, a lot of you know, last last Sunday. 569 00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:44.760 I mean, look, if I got my attention, you know, 570 00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:49.719 there's nothing else is going on. Yeah, well, well you know it 571 00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:52.840 got probably you know a lot of people's attention though who probably you know, 572 00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:55.880 if I'm like, you know, just somebody that's kind of average as far 573 00:37:55.880 --> 00:37:59.760 as that goes. I have not been watching soccer, but I was compelled 574 00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:01.920 to watch it on Sunday. Maybe there are the people like me who generally 575 00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:06.000 aren't compelled to watch soccer in the again, because it was you know, 576 00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:07.079 it was some good stuff. You know, there's all that stuff going on. 577 00:38:07.679 --> 00:38:12.880 Part of it to me was, you know, the the the COPA 578 00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:15.559 game was in the United States or it was at Miami, and I thought, 579 00:38:15.559 --> 00:38:16.280 okay, this is cool. It's here in the US. It's a 580 00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:20.679 big international tournament, the U of A. You know, stunk and guy 581 00:38:20.800 --> 00:38:22.920 you know, came out of it. But you know, you had two 582 00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:27.840 kind of legendary teams going at it. You had Lionel Messi in there. 583 00:38:28.760 --> 00:38:30.960 Even I know who Messy is, right, and so it was fun and 584 00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:34.920 and Uh again a lot of drama with all of that. It was Messy 585 00:38:34.920 --> 00:38:37.639 and his injury and stuff. So it was he was compelling and I and 586 00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:42.639 I and I sat there and I watched it. Okay, we got thirteen 587 00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:45.000 minutes left to here in the in the second, we had a lot of 588 00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:47.440 breaking news. Henry will have a lot of breaking news going on in the 589 00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:51.679 middle of summer basketball stuff going on. You know, we were I was 590 00:38:51.679 --> 00:38:54.239 at having lunch of Bob Dubs today and the Miami Heat game was on again 591 00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:59.079 another one. Yeah, and the guys, you know, we saw Pale 592 00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:01.800 a little bit and I kind of had my back to the screen, but 593 00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:04.880 you know, the people that I was sitting with, you know, they 594 00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:06.920 were paying attention to it. You know, I'm launching, you know, 595 00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:09.800 paying paying attention to how Pale and Uh and Uh and Keishad we're doing. 596 00:39:09.840 --> 00:39:15.039 So you know it's people get like, people follow these guys still, you 597 00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:19.159 know, no matter what a lot, you know again, but a lot 598 00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:22.679 of the a lot of discussions around of football. Uh, they're just fired 599 00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:25.679 up. Everybody's fired up. We're talking about planning for our tailgates and all 600 00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:29.639 that kind of stuff. Can't wait to get this thing started, right, 601 00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:36.840 and it starts here August the thirty first, The first game Saturday the thirty 602 00:39:36.840 --> 00:39:39.599 first, so Labor Day weekend. Uh, they got they've got a home 603 00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:45.719 game. So we're looking at next year's schedule already. Arizona plays Kansas the 604 00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:50.199 second half of that Kansas State series. It's here. So Arizona's got three 605 00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:54.360 home non conference games to start the season next year. The conference schedule hasn't 606 00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:59.559 made yet, but they open here against Hawaii and then they got Weaver State, 607 00:40:00.039 --> 00:40:02.199 which is their kind of gimme game, it's not an AU and then 608 00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:07.840 they've got Kansas State here, so there's going to be they'll be at ASU 609 00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:12.519 next year, so they'll be for seven home games again next year as well, 610 00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:15.079 but three right out of the about three you know August and September games 611 00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:19.400 which are always hot, so you can met those be late night games, 612 00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:23.320 right right right? Okay, you know we were just always looking ahead. 613 00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:28.079 Steve always looking ahead. Everybody's trying to trying to hit the over and make 614 00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:32.119 it to the Alabama game in twenty thirty two. There's there's some over unders 615 00:40:32.119 --> 00:40:35.920 on some of the people I know and whether or not they're going to get 616 00:40:35.960 --> 00:40:38.239 there so are kind of funny, and that even if they get there, 617 00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:42.800 are they going to be in a in any kind of physical condition to be 618 00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:45.880 able to go and see and actually see that and what that's going to be 619 00:40:45.920 --> 00:40:49.440 like. So, but that's a long way off. But yeah, you 620 00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:52.079 know, fired up about about about football. It's kind of starting to wonder 621 00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:54.760 what's going on with t mac right? Is the injury? Okay, it 622 00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:59.000 seems we don't seem to be hearing anything that it's not And he said, 623 00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:01.159 he said, I'm sure he had to answer a few times, a few 624 00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:04.960 number of times if he was fine that the media day. In fact, 625 00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:10.159 he started laughing after so many questions came. Yeah, so it'll be interesting 626 00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:15.280 to see I got stop drinking cokes. Oh you want some of my ice 627 00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:19.760 cream and my canes? You had ice cream over there? Well I did. 628 00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:22.320 Yeah, I thought you ate it looked like you ate it all you 629 00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:27.119 certainly we're giving it a try, but you know, again getting back to 630 00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:30.360 the football thing, just we just want to know, right, we just 631 00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:32.000 want to know what are they going to be good? Are they going to 632 00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:35.920 be you know, are they gonna come out and are you going to see 633 00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:40.119 uh, you know t Mac and Fifita you know kind of you know back 634 00:41:40.159 --> 00:41:43.960 in stride, you know, right out of the box. What's you know, 635 00:41:44.000 --> 00:41:46.800 what kinds of things are are they setting up offensively for those two guys. 636 00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:50.599 Certainly Brent Brandon looks to be smarter than the coach and say, okay, 637 00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:52.639 this is our bread and butter. We're going to make the most of 638 00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:59.239 it, as opposed to what what someone did with with cloth. Take just 639 00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:02.039 said we're gonna to do this whether or not you're good at it. You 640 00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:07.760 bring up the clot and we all know his situation here here, and we 641 00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:13.559 knew he was very talented, but he was sitting there behind Dawkins and this 642 00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:17.159 is kind of a totally different subject. And it took Dawkins to get hurt 643 00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:21.880 for him to play right, And we wondered, how did that happen in 644 00:42:21.960 --> 00:42:23.960 terms of what Bridge Rod, what what? What? What are you doing? 645 00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:29.039 Well? Why didn't you see this before? But then he never made 646 00:42:29.079 --> 00:42:32.079 it. He never made it beyond Arizona. He had those four games and 647 00:42:32.079 --> 00:42:36.000 that was that and that let's not forget they lost that year, right, 648 00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:39.239 Yeah, it's that's that final year. He got hurt too, got hurt. 649 00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:43.480 Right, So so there's that. And then if you were good, 650 00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:45.639 like I say this all the time, if you're good enough, they'll find 651 00:42:45.639 --> 00:42:49.920 you. Maybe he caught lighting in a bottle and that's what it was. 652 00:42:49.920 --> 00:42:53.119 Was it for a four game stretch and he was just unbelievable. But yeah, 653 00:42:53.119 --> 00:42:57.400 beyond that, Okay, what did he do? Right? And no, 654 00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:00.440 no disrespect, it's just that it's stuff like that happens. How good 655 00:43:00.559 --> 00:43:04.079 was he? Really? That's and that's my point. All it's like Kitle, 656 00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:06.960 but I'm kind of bring this back. We know, we see it, 657 00:43:07.360 --> 00:43:09.719 we see it. He's got something, he's got something. But is 658 00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:13.559 it And there's no criticism if you're not an NBA player, He's just not 659 00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:15.400 an NBA player. But you're a heck of a college player. I know 660 00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:19.280 why it wasn't. I know I wasn't. I'm not getting paid in IL, 661 00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:22.159 right, I'm not doing as well as those guys are. I wish 662 00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:25.199 I had his future, you know, there's no it's just it's just observation, 663 00:43:25.400 --> 00:43:29.400 you know, you just you just you wonder, because here's the thing 664 00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:32.719 that you have to be able to do it for the long haul, right. 665 00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:37.760 You know that four game stretch for for Colt Tate did absolutely nothing for 666 00:43:37.880 --> 00:43:42.079 him the next season. In fact, it probably made it harder on sure, 667 00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:45.079 because the expectations were created very much. But then you know, you 668 00:43:45.360 --> 00:43:47.599 got a new coaching staff who came in here and said we're going to do 669 00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:51.400 things this way, and it didn't fit with what he was able to do 670 00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:54.599 the year before. And consequently, you know, his his his career just 671 00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:59.039 got just got sidetracked. I don't even remember this. I'm bringing this out 672 00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:01.599 of just out of left field. When that first game came and I kept 673 00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:05.800 who was it? I can't remember, you would know, And he threw 674 00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:08.280 the ball thirty eight times or whatever Houston okay, and they lost, right 675 00:44:09.320 --> 00:44:14.079 And I was the guy that asked him specifically, and I don't even know 676 00:44:14.079 --> 00:44:16.760 how I asked him, are you the guy that should be thirty showing thirty 677 00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:20.639 eight thirty eight games? Says, well, that's what quarterbacks do, not 678 00:44:20.880 --> 00:44:23.400 you? Not? You doesn't have to be what quarterbacks do right right, 679 00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:28.880 and it was it was a certainly response and a smart ass the response. 680 00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:31.760 And that's when I think that maybe maybe he's not the guy. I don't 681 00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:35.440 know, this is me being older, yeah, and looking at it just 682 00:44:35.519 --> 00:44:37.800 kind of like the response was kind of strange and and you're not the guy 683 00:44:37.800 --> 00:44:42.639 that should be thirty throwing Steve, you know, because of what happened that 684 00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:49.599 year, and it certainly turned out for wherever it came from. They tried 685 00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:52.760 to get him to do things that weren't in his wheelhouse exactly exactly. It's 686 00:44:52.760 --> 00:44:55.880 like we're talking about the coach with Pinena. Yeah, you put the guys 687 00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:00.719 they're going to be in the positions that make him do well. And that 688 00:45:00.559 --> 00:45:04.519 and that was that was the thing that I always commended rich Rod for doing. 689 00:45:04.800 --> 00:45:07.039 He didn't get he didn't get his guys to do more than they could 690 00:45:07.519 --> 00:45:12.440 well. Right, you HADJ. B J. Denker, That's exactly where 691 00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:15.519 I was going. He gave b J. Denker as much as he could 692 00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:20.920 do well and said, Okay, that's how much you're gonna do the rest 693 00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:23.960 of it. We're giving the ball to Kadem Carry was the same night the 694 00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:29.280 guy that you had to apologize to AJ Bramlett. He was the center. 695 00:45:29.480 --> 00:45:30.679 Who would you think that A. J. Brown was the center of the 696 00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:35.599 national championship team? Exactly? I mean, and and they got him to 697 00:45:35.639 --> 00:45:37.840 do what he was good at. And they built around all those all those 698 00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:42.079 pieces, right, you know, Jason Terry and Mike and and and Michael 699 00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:46.719 Dickerson, all those guys they did what they do best, and Louke built 700 00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:51.480 that into this national championship team. Rich Trod did that with his guys, 701 00:45:51.639 --> 00:45:57.000 right, you know. Uh and Solomon his freshman year he had he had 702 00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:00.000 probably the best freshman year of any quarterback in the history of Arizona football because 703 00:46:00.039 --> 00:46:04.960 he only did the rich Rod only let him do this much stuff. Right. 704 00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:08.519 There was that game against Cal where he threw the ball sixty some times 705 00:46:08.840 --> 00:46:13.119 and on that night he needed to do that, but he did it in 706 00:46:13.119 --> 00:46:16.239 a way that he knew Anna Solomon could do it. Right. There were 707 00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:22.280 other games aroun A Solomon wasn't so great, but you know he rich Rod 708 00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:27.360 got his guys. The year that they went three and nine and they beat 709 00:46:27.400 --> 00:46:34.119 ASC, Brandon Dawkins was the quarterback, Remember that ASU game. Brandon Dawkins 710 00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:37.960 is the quarterback and a wide receiver, Samaji Grant was the tailback, and 711 00:46:38.000 --> 00:46:43.519 they ran for five hundred plus yard because rich Trod figured out, this is 712 00:46:43.519 --> 00:46:46.679 what these guys can do, so let's do that, and let's get them 713 00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:49.920 to do that the best way they can. And they beat the hell out 714 00:46:49.960 --> 00:46:52.639 of Asu by throwing the ball. I think they threw the ball three times 715 00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:57.800 that night, something like that and rushed for five hundred plus yards and beat 716 00:46:57.800 --> 00:47:00.239 the hell out of Asu because rich Rod said, Samaji Grant, we can 717 00:47:00.280 --> 00:47:04.840 do this, so we're gonna do that, as opposed to trying to force, 718 00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:08.280 you know, force something that wasn't going to work, which is exactly 719 00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:14.360 what Kevin Sumlan did with Calil Tate him and Noel Mazzoni. They forced him, 720 00:47:14.880 --> 00:47:17.119 tried to force him, you know, to do something that he really 721 00:47:17.960 --> 00:47:22.039 wasn't wasn't in his wheelhouse, wasn't good at sure. Sure, And let 722 00:47:22.079 --> 00:47:27.199 me tell you some good coaches see that, right, I mean, obviously 723 00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:30.000 that's what they get paid to do. Look, let let's let's go to 724 00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:34.119 Sean Miller, right, he was trying to get guys to do stuff they 725 00:47:34.159 --> 00:47:37.360 didn't really either want to do or maybe weren't good at. He was trying 726 00:47:37.360 --> 00:47:43.920 to change the players that they were where if because that he recruited him because 727 00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:47.480 they were really good? But should he shouldn't he have recruited somebody who could 728 00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:51.800 do what he wanted to do. You know who was the better recruit, 729 00:47:52.079 --> 00:47:58.239 TJ McConnell or or a nic Omnnion. Who was the better recruit? TJ 730 00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:01.639 McConnell because he was succeeded with McConnell and Nico Mannon came here and was lost 731 00:48:01.920 --> 00:48:06.119 right, No, No, because because he tried to get Nico Mannion stuff 732 00:48:06.159 --> 00:48:09.679 that he wasn't in his in his character, I was always speaking this it's 733 00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:15.480 funny cranky Wednesday for both of us. But but exactly he and he chased 734 00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:19.679 these five star guys that didn't fit, that didn't fit the roles that he 735 00:48:19.679 --> 00:48:22.239 put him into. And I said that in my collum, I says he 736 00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.199 brought them in, let them play for the first semester, and then took 737 00:48:25.559 --> 00:48:28.599 took the ball out of their hands and said, you're gonna play my way 738 00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:32.480 right because I don't want you to transfer in the first semester after realizing this 739 00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:36.360 is what it is. But yeah, so much talent too. Some of 740 00:48:36.360 --> 00:48:38.119 those teams where he had so much talent and then and then they didn't do 741 00:48:38.239 --> 00:48:43.920 well. It was like, Okay, what why aren't why isn't this team 742 00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:47.199 better? Right? Uh now? In some cases like that, that the 743 00:48:47.280 --> 00:48:52.119 twenty twenty eighteen team that lost to Buffalo and you know, those guys just 744 00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:55.039 decided they don't want to play it and give a crip this And this is 745 00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:59.519 an analogy that I'd like to talk about because Caliparty has his guys. I 746 00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:01.840 know we're going to go all over the mouth, but he has his claim 747 00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:05.800 to famous getting the guys into the league. Right, the guys that he 748 00:49:05.880 --> 00:49:08.679 has stay with him for seven months, you think he turned them into an 749 00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:12.960 NBA player? Weren't they already NBA when they got there? When they got 750 00:49:13.000 --> 00:49:16.159 there, if a pretty girl shows up in class on in August, she's 751 00:49:16.159 --> 00:49:21.039 a pretty girl in May. Anthony Anthony Davis was going to going to the 752 00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:25.039 NBA after one year, whether he went to Arizona or Kentucky or North Carolina 753 00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:30.320 or you know, Saint Peter's or wherever he was going to the NBA. 754 00:49:30.639 --> 00:49:35.639 He just needs he just needed the clock to pass. DeAndre. Yeah, 755 00:49:36.079 --> 00:49:37.679 these other kids did the same thing. I'm here for a year. I'm 756 00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:40.480 not I don't have to listen to coaches. Just what I'm gone anyway, 757 00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:45.159 versus look at look. Let let's let's go to Rich Rod's twenty fourteen team. 758 00:49:45.519 --> 00:49:50.639 All right, how many guys from that team made it in the NFL. 759 00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:52.800 I don't know how many. None, okay, but they played well 760 00:49:52.840 --> 00:49:57.280 together, but they were they were a great team, one of the great. 761 00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:00.119 And let's fit let's put in context. Arizona hasn't had a lot of 762 00:50:00.119 --> 00:50:04.280 great teams, but one of the great football teams here and not a guy 763 00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:06.440 and maybe there were a couple of I don't know about the lineman and the 764 00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:08.440 defensive but you know the guys that we think of when you think of that 765 00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:17.360 team. You know, Austin Hill and Solomon Nick Nick Wilson Wilson uh uh. 766 00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:25.639 The other receivers uh uh, Dan not Buckner with the other guy uh 767 00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:31.679 not got what was his name? Is tall guy? Oh that we had 768 00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:34.480 him on the show. No he was, We haven't had him on the 769 00:50:34.519 --> 00:50:37.360 show. But you know, the big tall receiver that they had, you 770 00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:39.920 know, I mean none, none of the guys that you think of from 771 00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:44.559 that team, even Scooby Wright, right, you know, Okay, he's 772 00:50:44.599 --> 00:50:46.119 he's been in the us FL, but you know, he didn't make it 773 00:50:46.159 --> 00:50:51.639 in the NFL. So it was just a bunch of guys that fit together 774 00:50:52.400 --> 00:50:53.719 and and made you know, made a ten win team out of that. 775 00:50:54.079 --> 00:50:59.320 And that's that's what a really good coach will do, as opposed to let's 776 00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:01.440 say Richard only had bj Denker as the quarterback and he tried to get him 777 00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:06.239 to do what Anord Solomon could do. That wasn't gonna work. Yeah, 778 00:51:06.280 --> 00:51:08.840 it's just strange, especially coaches, and we've seen a number of more they 779 00:51:08.920 --> 00:51:12.960 go away from what they got them, what they got them there in the 780 00:51:12.960 --> 00:51:16.199 first place, because you have talent now. Caleb Caleb Caleb, Oh yeah, 781 00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:20.800 yeah Jones, Caleb Jones from Texas. He came in from Texas. 782 00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:24.360 Right, yeah, God, look at you. I could say, your 783 00:51:24.400 --> 00:51:27.519 wife should have called you bring home milk, and guess what, that's the 784 00:51:27.559 --> 00:51:29.920 last thing you can bring on. I blew it the other day. I 785 00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:35.760 forgot, I forgot a whole lot, a whole list of stuff. She 786 00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:39.000 said, Yeah, but you know that Suliman Hill was the quarterback you knew 787 00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:45.039 Arizona last twenty four to twenty one. Oh yes, you in nineteen seventy 788 00:51:43.800 --> 00:51:50.559 four or seventy five. That was all right. We were talking about that, 789 00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:52.320 and they would give me a crap about it, about the conversation that 790 00:51:52.360 --> 00:51:55.480 we had about that. Yesterday, wasn't it. It was just yesterday. 791 00:51:55.519 --> 00:52:01.119 So they listened, or they new I must listen. I don't remember the 792 00:52:01.159 --> 00:52:05.679 lid, the lid thing I told. I told, I told gap the 793 00:52:05.719 --> 00:52:07.840 lid story she had. Yeah, she laughed, She thought it was pretty 794 00:52:07.880 --> 00:52:12.239 funny. I said, you're my lid, honey. Were talking about, 795 00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:15.280 what the hell does that mean? That makes sense? You're my lid. 796 00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:17.840 But she says, aren't you lucky? Aren't you lucky? The tumbleware they 797 00:52:17.960 --> 00:52:22.840 found there and Steve's lid blew off into the blue, into the wind, 798 00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:24.760 and he's okay, and he's okay, all right, we're gonna take our 799 00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:28.480 break cord and come back. Henry's gonna breaking you, so stick around.