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It's to two seventeen Recovery Podcast with
Corey Winfield. If you kind of look

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deeper at the situation, you know, which I'm sure you will, because

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everything that we go through is an
experience that we learned from. And Justin

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Burke, I come right in.
I am very sneaky about it. You'll

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be talking to someone and I'll just
come in and sit at my desk and

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just bust one out real quick.
It is the eighth of May twenty twenty

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four. My name's Cory Winfield,
and with me is Justin Burke. What's

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up? And this is the two
seventeen Recovery Podcast. A week from tomorrow,

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the sixteenth of May, is the
UFAM rally in Lansing, Michigan.

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Woo woo. Pretty excited. Are
you excited? I'm beyond excited because you're

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gonna have a different role this year. I know it's quite different. I

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don't know how to take in my
responsibilities as they evolved sometimes. Are you

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nervous at all a little bit?
Yeah? Because I have no podcasting experience.

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I mean, I know how to
talk on a microphone, which isn't

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really hard. I come right in. I am very sneaky about it.

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You'll be talking to someone and I'll
just come in and sit at my desk

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and just bust one out real quick. Yeah. See that's perfect. It

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sounds good. Yeah yeah, But
it's the whole control of the board and

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the intro and how to put it
together. Like I don't have any of

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that experience, And lately I'm kind
of feeling jealous over other people's abilities and

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how they do things. We were
talking about it earlier today, like with

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Adobe, Like I would really like
to start learning how to do that stuff,

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but at the same time, I
don't feel like I have enough time

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with my current responsibilities. So to
make add more to the stack of my

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responsibilities after being on the road all
day to doing Adobe podcast work, it's

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kind of hard. It's tough,
man. And like during the whole COVID

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thing when that was happening, I
still really wasn't watching TV, so I

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would do stuff at home. But
I mean, I had twenty yet Radio

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Quaer they paying me learn it,
so it was pretty pretty fun. But

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I didn't know how to make a
nonprofit. I didn't know how to do

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that, which I was spending time
learning, and I was always kind of

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in my office doing something. And
then Marnie told me one day, like,

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honey, I wish you'd spend time
with me, just be in the

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same room with me. I watched
TV. Okay, all right, and

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do that. But then there's some
shows that I do like to watch,

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and I realized that that's not healthy
either, like the other way of doing

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things, like just working work and
working all the time. Right, you

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have to set some time for yourself. And if you looked at it like,

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all right, I'm going to learn
this as like a hot as something

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that I'm interested in. If you
really wanted to do it, if you

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really had that desire, you would
find a way to do it if you

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really wanted to just saying I do, but our my teachers schedule doesn't line

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up with mine. Who I'd like
to be my teacher anyways, we're both

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really busy guys. Oh yeah,
So I mean I'd like to receive the

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best education possible without going to college. Well, there's YouTube, there's tutorials.

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If you wanted to. Everything starts
with the desire, justin if you

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had the desire to do it,
you would do it. That's what I'm

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saying. But you get home and
you're trying to do this new workout routine

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and you have other things going on, and you're tired and you need sleep,

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and you need to see your lady
friend self care. We'll label it

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self care, We'll label your lady
friend's self care, or will label the

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relationship a lady friend? Or is
it? No, it's the lady friend's

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self care. Okay, so now
hold on. She might be listening,

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so you better her answer this one
carefully. Is she just a friend,

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that's a woman. It's complicated.
It's complicated. Now are you taking that

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from her Facebook status? Or is
this your Facebook? Because that's what it's

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official. Well, it is on
Facebook that we're bowls in a complicated partnership

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relationship plan. Not talking about this
today, but let's get stick into this.

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Why it's a complicated justice because it's
just complicated. Okay, Well makes

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it complicated because I don't want to
do labels, So it's complicated. So

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you, as my mom would say, you want your cake and you want

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to eat it too, or something
like that. No, I mean I'm

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committed. Oh but how committed are
you? But why would you buy the

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cow when you're getting them out for
free? You know. Oh yeah,

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tough titties. It is very We
were talking about that earlier today. I

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don't know why my mom used to
say it to me, Oh, tough

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titty, and now I can't matter
if it's tough titties or tough t tough

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titty. That's what my grandma used
say to me. Is that because the

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milk is hard to come out of
a tough titty, so it's not really

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a titties and or is it the
titties at the nipple it would be classified

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as a teat. Well, then
why don't they say tough teats? I

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don't know, Like, how would
you know if you had a tough titty,

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it wouldn't produce. I got soft
man titties, it wouldn't produce.

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I don't produce. I got soft
ones too. Where I believe there's soft

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I think it's something to do with
like the glands inside of it get tough

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so it doesn't produce, like they
become fatty hard mm hmmm, someone along

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those lines. I'm not a dairy
farmer. See this is where Marky's mom

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is right, we do need to
call in, but it's section of the

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show. Yeah, but it does
stem from like col Farmers, I know

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that much. So tough titty yep, I don't know. My mom was

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known for using analogies that are horrible, but she was one the other day

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that was actually pretty good, and
I can't remember it at this moment.

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That's a shame. She's trying to
tell me how my son's gonna just do

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stuff that I don't approve of color
on walls. I think you've told me

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the same things I did. I
actually advised you to wait. I'm painting

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in your house till after your son
was about five. Yeah, I can't

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wait till the first time he goes
through with a permanent marker. How is

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he gonna get a permanent marker justin
because you're gonna leave it laying somewhere.

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Why would I leave it laying somewhere
because you just will. And babies climb

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like don't and I'm talking about human, not a cat. Babies climb.

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They start to climb. What is
he gonna climb up on your desk,

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on my desk. He's not climbing
on my desk in the office. He's

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gonna have his own office. He's
gonna have his own computers, own my

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phone, That's what I was telling
her. It's like, he's gonna have

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his own microphone, his own computer, and she's like, yeah, but

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yours are better, and I'm like, no, his will be the same.

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They still he'll want to play with
yours, right, It doesn't matter

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what you give him, your yours
is always gonna be better. I think

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Marty named his podcast, did she
what's it called from the Crib? A?

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Yes, Parker from the Crib and
then like his first podcast would be

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like, ah, wow, well
I'd probably be eating the microphone, but

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whatever. Speaking of Parker, isn't
he supposed to be here in the next

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seven hours and twenty two minutes?
Well, when I asked him a few

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weeks ago, because you know,
he was moving around in Marty's belly,

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so I was like, hey,
little buddy, I was like, when

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are you coming out? And then
May eighth boom just popped in my head

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and you see me my psychic ability
call a home run and we went to

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the Tigers game, oh yeah several
times. Yeah, psychic ability has been

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able to call some things out.
Yeah, and so I'm pretty tuned in

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to it, as you know psychics, since you know stuff saying as we

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say in the in the biz,
and so the eighth was today, But

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then we found out some other news
that were like, oh crap, and

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so I asked them, Hey,
little Parker, can you stay in mommy's

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belly for a couple more weeks because
day he's got stuff to do, because

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Mother's Day weekends this weekend, and
Marty and I are going to celebrate that

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by going to see Kat Williams and
Grand Rapids. Gratulations. Thank you.

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That's going to be the best Mother's
Day present ever. Ye. Well,

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actually that's it's just for me.
But then we're gonna, like you selfish,

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eat some food or something. I'll
take her to dinner on Mother's Day,

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we take our breakfast something and so
that's that's already planned. And it

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would be nice to just do that
one more trip down to Grand Rapids,

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but just Martie and I. Yeah, you know, iman Parker will be

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with us. But and then,
of course, like I said, the

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sixteenth, next week, next week, you fham and we're going down on

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the fifteenth, and then I have
to m c it right, ask me

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if I'm nervous. Are you nervous? Hell, yeah, I'm nervous.

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You didn't but I don't know why
you're so nervous. I don't know,

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like you've been on stage in front
of thousands of people. I have like

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probably ten twenty thousand people and introduced
celebrities, like real celebrities. Well,

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I am like icon horrible with names, horrible with names. You know this,

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I'm sure you'll have It took me
what six months to get Mitchell's name

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right? And he works here,
Marshall, Yeah, he's on the payroll

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right Like it's it's I'm horrible with
names. And I reached I was talking

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to Christian about this. He's the
guy who asked me to do the U

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fan thing and and I asked,
like, all right, cool, when

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we show up the day for a
couple days before, like we're gonna rehearse,

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you got a script? And he's
like, no, there's no script.

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But I mean there's no script,
Like I don't have people's names written

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down, Like you don't have a
time like a run sheet for the event,

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you know, Like, am I
supposed to pull these people off after

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thirty minutes? Like how we're just
winging it? Like wow? And if

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they have that, then I mean
I guess that's cool. I'll just wing

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it too, but it's just not
knowing. But you're pretty, but you're

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really good with them brows. Yeah, you really are until I start getting

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appropriate inappropriate. Sorry, you have
to keep it family approved like PG status.

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We are in the capitol lawn.
Your favorite governor is probably gonna be

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able to hear you don't see now
you give me ideas well? Hopefully it's

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a good positive idea. Yeah.
And because I've said this before, so

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I'll say it again too, just
to clear the record, set it straight.

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Is that I have said I wish
Governor Whitmer would put on some rehab

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clothes and take a bus to treatment. Yeah, and see how much fun

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she has with a three hour layover
and Grand Rapids are lansing. Actually,

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I think all of our state senators
and representatives should have to do that.

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They would get there and being like
that is not a good idea. We

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have to do something about that.
Yep. But you know, since they're

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paid well and have good insurance,
they don't have to worry about that,

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you know, even if their kids
go to treatment, they don't have to

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worry about that. But they should
have to see how the normal folk that

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they service, who they represent in
the different districts on how they have to

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get there by their own district.
Act like a normal person and try to

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get to treatment by using your own
PHP, calling them setting it up the

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whole nine yards. If you get
sick, can go see the doctor.

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You don't gotta go through all this
hubb of blue to get better. You

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know it is a medical diagnosis.
So just because well you did it to

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yourself, well, people get diabetes, I mean too much, Kate,

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what are you talking about exactly?
They did it to themselves. But like

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if somebody who is an alcoholic or
drug addict will use those terms going to

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the er and they need help,
they're gonna see the person who just ate

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a bunch of cake, and they
probably shouldn't because they're going into some diabetic

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situation, and they're gonna see them
and be like, oh, okay,

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cool. Somebody who I've talked about
this before too, climbed a tree when

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everybody's like, Gerald, you better
get down from there. And he falls

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off his house or something stupid breaks
his arm, they're gonna see him first.

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Wait wait, wait, he did
was actually more stupid than someone who

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becomes addicted to the alcohol or drugs. We just made a bad decision,

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sure, absolutely, but the alcohol
will sneak up on you and before you

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know it, it's got your ass, you know. But typically with a

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substitute disorder though, Yo, it
stems from some sort of trauma along the

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way of your life. It doesn't
have to be necessarily childhood trauma, because

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there's people that are affected later in
life that don't start until like their thirties

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or forties. Yeah, you know, so it could be later in life

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that they've experienced this trauma and you
know, it goes undone because we don't

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offer the ability to necessarily get the
help we need for mental health. Look

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how hard it is to find a
therapist, Yeah, just in the area

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we live in. And then you
find one, and then you start a

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company and get some insurance from employees, and then you realize they're like,

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yeah, she's not in network,
you can't use her. And I'm like,

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well, my' user for the last
four or five years, Like,

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I have a connection with this person. Tell me I need this. You

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can't just switch it there. Therapist, Like, the therapist is hard to

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find, especially a good one.
Yeah, And once you had that connection

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with them, right, you don't
want to. You can't just switch to

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somebody else. It's it's not like
seeing a foot doctor right now, Like

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I almost feel that same connection that
I had before, if that makes any

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sense, with our old therapist to
the new one I got, Like the

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connection is starting to grow where I
can feel more comfortable opening up about things.

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But it took a while, Yeah, like it really did. Like

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I've been seeing her since last July. I think it was I finally just

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start feeling comfortable. Actually got to
go back all through that shit again.

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Which you're in a good spot now
where you can deal with all that stuff,

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but like sometimes people can't and to
tell someone I don't know, you

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can't do that. It's a network. I don't pay anything, not a

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network. I haven't really dug into
my past yet with her. Is this

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more of the current stuff, but
still like certain issues like I wouldn't necessarily

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feel comfortable talking to someone about what
I first mean, I don't know how

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they're going to be, how they're
going to react, what they're going to

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think. You know, it's a
whole judgment thing, you know. Yeah,

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and when you're going there, you're
wearing a mask a little bit.

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person, and you don't know if this

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is going to be the person that's
going to help you out or if you

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can even trust them. Sometimes you'll
go in and just because they have a

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degree doesn't make them good. Exactly. I can get a degree in whatever

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right now, and I wouldn't be
good at it, probably, But I'm

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just saying there's some out there that
just aren't good and you probably shouldn't go

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see them. Some some like to
give advice. Here's what you need to

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do. And if you ever go
to a therapist and then they start telling

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you what you need to do,
just pay them for that session and be

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gone. Well, we'll hold up, because that's not totally true. My

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therapist did tell me not to Mary
said person and told me it was gonna

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crash and burn in my face.
And I didn't ever talk to her.

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Sons, don't you ask? And
what happened exactly what she said was gonna

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happen because I was open and honest
with her about the situation. Yeah,

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she probably told you that kind of
off the record type deal. No,

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it was very much like in the
middle of our session. Well, she

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probably, Well, I could see
it happening like this, justin, do

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you think this is gonna last?
Well, justin, what do you think

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is really gonna happen? Justin?
Tell me what do you like about her?

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Justin? Tell me this, justin, this is gonna fail because you

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probably told her over and over that
it was gonna fail, and she was

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just like at the point where Okay, Justin, now I have to tell

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you you just told me it's gonna
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Probably probably maybe not, You're You're
probably right because that's what she does

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to me. Yeah, she used
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And honestly, I really like her
a lot. I still do. I

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wish I could have won back to
seeing her with our insurance. I don't

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know why she doesn't take our insurance
because as a pretty large insurance company,

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Well, it's not that she doesn't
take it, it's the insurance that we

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have. They don't pay for anything
that's not in network, Like we have

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to go to in network people and
they said that, oh, she's got

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to get this certain license, and
I don't know, it's just one of

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those deals in America around Yeah,
yeah, he said, she said,

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and La la lah Da dah.
But again, it all starts with desire.

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She had a desire to see us. Let she would go do that.

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But nah, it's cool, and
I'm glad that we do have insurance

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We're able to do that. And
now our insurance stuff's going up. And

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then you know, to see a
therapist again, we got to pay like

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fifteen dollars still cheaper I had to
pay through BES place I worked for.

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Yeah, but I want you guys
to pay nothing. But here's the in

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the flip side of this, which
has been driving me nuts this whole time.

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Because it's great. I already got
a whole idea planned after June,

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after I get back from North Carolina, I'm taking some fmla time, probably

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like in not August, September,
not October, probably November. You got

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it planned out there, you go, because I got things I gotta do,

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like July, August, September.
My birthday is in October. That

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might be a good state for my
birthday. Yeah, and it it's good

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and one in it's a good.
Okay. So right now we have Priorty

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Health and we have this hospital deal
where if you go to the hospital,

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you gotta pay a thousand bucks that's
it. You know, you're you could

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be there for three years and all
you pay is a thousand dollars. Not

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bad, you have a child,
which Marty and I are having a child.

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Some bucks. Not bad? Okay, not bad, I would say,

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not bad. When I first thought, I was like, oh,

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that's not bad. Well, the
new policy that starts June first, which

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my son will be born before then
two hundred bucks. Well, hopefully he

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can hold out that. I have
two microphones, that's a camera. Well,

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that's a room we could get painted. We'll just pray for a five

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day layover. That's not happening,
and hopefully he's born on June first.

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He'll be before June. You think, what day twenty something, let's say

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the last day an maud, You're
gonna be like, why couldn't you just

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hold on for an extra six hours? And then I was one or two,

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like, is it the day that
he comes out to the world,

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yes, or is it the day
that we leave the hospital the day or

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is the day that we enter the
hospital? Because that wouldn't make sense because

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sometimes people will go in the hospital
and then they're like, get your ass

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home. You ain't ready, not
for sure, you'd have to ask the

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hospital m because each hospital might be
different. I don't know. It's over

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my over my pay grade. It's
above all our pay We have to turn

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it over to the man upstairs.
Yeah, but it's also good for treatment

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if you wanted to go to impatient
treatment. Yeah, two hundred bucks or

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before it was a thousand and being
in the industry we're in. We're a

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recovery community organization based in Traverse City, Michigan, and we hire people in

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recovery. So far, everybody's holding
strong, everybody's doing great. But the

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fact that it is any one of
us, me included, you go out,

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you know, you never know,
You honestly never know. And I

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want to make sure that we have
things in place to help us, you

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know. So the therapy is one
of it. And again in fifteen bucks,

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it's not the end of the world. But still it's like, really

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it be nothing, especially since the
jacked our rates up like eighty bucks a

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month per person. Yeah, so
it's like damn. Of course not eighty

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bucks for each person, but they
said that's the average. But still it's

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like damn. And now we got
pad of pocket. But if we need

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to go to the hospital or treatment. Good to go, sweet damn it.

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I just wish it was two hundred
bucks now. I sent him a

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message. I'm like, can we
change it to do that now? I

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didn't even read what I replied because
it was such a stupid question that I

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sent. No question is labeled stupid. Yeah, there's some stupid answers,

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like one of the Costco right.
We bought a iPad for our meetings,

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which you can attend one of our
meetings if you've never been to one.

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Check out our app. It just
looks to seventeen recovery in the app store.

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There's links on our website. If
that's easier for you, just pull

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it up on your phone two seventeen
recovery dot com. See the little it's

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at the bottom. See the little
Apple or Google whatever you have. If

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you have an Android, go there, get the app. But then you

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can look for meetings on our app
that we have and tune in. It's

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fun. A lot of people do
that. So we needed this iPad because

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we had this other thing that really
wasn't working very well. So we got

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the iPad. Everything was cool,
So we got it from Costco. Well,

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we're registered whatever as a nonprofit,
so we're tax exempt, except Costco

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says, well, no, no, no, no, because that's an

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Apple product. What does that have
to do with us not paying the federal

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government taxes? All right, we're
state taxes, Like this doesn't make any

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sense. Well, we have an
agreement with Apple, and I'm like,

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all right, now, you know
what, I need to make a big

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deal about it that night, just
whatever, I'll call your people and figure

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this. It's not a coupon,
this is tax exempt status R. And

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so that was in February. So
we're finally like getting back around, like

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okay, what are we going to
do because it was like sixty seventy bucks

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of taxes and you know, there's
people who donate money to us, which

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we really appreciate, and we don't
want to just waste it on taxes,

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right state with taxes. So we
finally get Costco and they're like, yeah,

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no, we have an agreement with
Apple. And I'm like that just

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doesn't make any sense, Like what
do you what do you mean? And

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so I wrote an email to them. It's like tax request at costco dot

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com and I was like, what
are you what are you talking about?

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Like this doesn't make sense, can
you please explain this to me? And

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then that's what I got back was
well, we have an agreement with Apple

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that says we can't have any reduction
in price or exemptions in price. And

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I was like, okay, well
there's no redemption and price exemptions in the

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tax and I was I called them
stupid, and I was like, so

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if the people who run your company
thinks that taxes, not paying taxes on

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something is an exemption from the sale
price of the item, then they're stupid.

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And I feel sorry for you that
you have to work for a company

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who has such stupid people in charge. Yep, and didn't bring me back.

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That's one thing about Apple I really
love because no matter where you go,

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an Apple product is at that price. I can I buy stuff from

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Apple directly. It's taxes. They
don't charge me tax because we're a nonprofit.

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And the one thing is, like
you go to Walmart to look at

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for an Apple charger or whatever,
an actual Apple charger, not an off

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brand actual Apple charger, The same
charger is going to be the same price

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from Walmart to Target to best Buy. Now one of them may have a

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sale because they got authorization through Apple. But the price will never be higher,

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maybe cheaper, but never higher than
said price. And it's typically the

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same said prices on their website and
best I had the same sale going on,

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but it was a little bit further
across town, and I was like,

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we'll just get it here, right, But now I'm like, damn

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it, and I gotta take it
back. Will they even take it back

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now? Yeah, like ninety days, so we got like a week.

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But I bought a and I don't
even care. I'll buy this out of

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my own pocket because I bought a
screen protector for it. Mm hm,

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I don't remember what that was,
but it could be the same price as

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the taxes. But still, like
just the principle of it, Like,

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I really don't care like that.
That is dumb. It doesn't make any

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sense to me. They couldn't explain
it to me except for repeating the same

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stuff over and over about while we
have an agreement with Apple that no,

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you're agreeing with Apples, you're not
going to change the price of their shit,

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yea, nothing to do with taxes. Like, I'm so confused by

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why the tax department doesn't understand this. So were people problems? Man,

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I'm telling you they're great. So
I went to a concert last weekend.

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Oh yeah, let's let's recap this. Went and seen a demo. They

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were really good. Seeing Tantric,
I think the lead singer for got his

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songs because like a few of them
he's sang really good, and some of

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them he like missed half the words, but the rest of the band knew

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what they were playing. It's kind
of weird seeing Trapped, it was all

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right, he was kind of getting
a little messed up on stage. And

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then I've seen Josie Scott Oldly,
singer of Saliva, and he may have

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been drinking a beer on stage.
What yeah, what you beer shaming people?

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Well, you know, I did
a little research on this. Okay,

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supposedly Saliva in him parted ways.
He claims it was due to have

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more family time, okay, to
raise his kids. Now. According to

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the Saliva side on things, he
needed to step away due to substance use

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disorder problem with alcohol and drugs.
That's common too, right, so it's

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pretty common. But he claims that
he's in recovery now. But how can

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you drink a beer and be in
recovery defense? So you ask, I

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guess beers a day now, he
just drinks one. I guess you're in

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recovery when you say you're in recovery. That's what they tell us. But

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you know, it's a very slippery
slope. If you start with one beer,

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it's never going to end with just
one beer. It wouldn't for me.

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It wouldn't it for me neither.
Oh just here, Justin's just one

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line. Well, I'm sorry that
one line's not gonna be enough. You've

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got the rest of the bag for
the mirror. I don't know. I

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don't know what you want me to
do, because that's just gonna tease me.

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Yeah, even being four year and
a half years clean, it would

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still tease me and want me to
do more. Like, I just don't

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get it, Like why I start
that, I don't know. Maybe he's

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like jelly roll jelly rolls like recovery, or I don't take pills no more.

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But on the back of his jackets
like I'm a comb guzlin or whatever

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it says, blunt smoking drinking.
Sorry for the reference of this slom American.

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Oh yeah, that's what I was
thinking of. That's some things for

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the same there, Justin. Yeah, sorry, mom, but yeah,

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it's like wait, what, like
you can't oh, and he's drinking and

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doing this. I'm like no,
no, no, no, no no

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no no no no no no,
no recovery. And that's fine. Man,

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don't be in recovery. Like you
don't do drugs anymore, you don't

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do pills anymore. That's fine.
You know, Like I can say I

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don't drink anymore, but so I
can go out and smoke meth. No,

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I'm in recovery. It's the same
thing. No, it's no,

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yes it is. It's the same
exact thing. Oh, I just don't

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drink anymore, but I smoke weed. Well, some people are like,

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well, you're not in recovery.
Nope, I'm using a mind off during

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substance. Yeah, but man,
this this strand, I can make excuse

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after excuse, aric excuse about alcohol
too. Well. Yeah, but see

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whiskey doesn't get me as drunk as
vodka, right, you know, I'm

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only drinking seventy proof stuff. Man, it's way different like this. You

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know, if I just drink a
wine cooler, I don't even think they

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make those anymore. But then maybe
who knows. I'm the point of this

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is, yes, I can make
every excuse that the guy who's smoking weed

407
00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:51.119
can. Oh, it's natural.
Okay, it's from potato. It's natural

408
00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:53.440
too, bro, Like the weed
is not natural. Now, you know,

409
00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:56.880
I stepped up my game and I
might have some class. So I'm

410
00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:00.440
gonna start drinking Scotch there you go. Yeah, and I just drink you

411
00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:04.240
know, one one glass a day. Now the glass is as big as

412
00:30:04.279 --> 00:30:11.359
a coffee mug. But that's cool. Oh no, it's you know,

413
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:15.440
and that's what people do. You
know. You can make it any excuse

414
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:18.279
for it if you want. But
I can say, yeah, no,

415
00:30:18.319 --> 00:30:22.759
I don't drink anymore, but I
don't smoke weed anymore, but I do

416
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:26.200
heroin on the weekend. Right,
wait what, it doesn't make any sense.

417
00:30:27.720 --> 00:30:32.640
So and again, at the end
of the day, I'm only talking

418
00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:37.640
about me because I don't really care
what other people do. But to say

419
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:40.599
that you're in recovery when you're not, you don't have to be in recovery,

420
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:42.319
man, right, you know,
Like that's the thing, and I

421
00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:47.440
think everybody wants people to say they're
in recovery. Well, it's like the

422
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:53.400
new bandwagon, it is. And
you go, you go to different trainings

423
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:56.000
and they tell you, like you
said earlier, you're in recovery when you

424
00:30:56.000 --> 00:31:00.920
say you are, but you gotta
have two years clearfore wait wait what,

425
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:04.839
oh, don't don't don't don't say
clean anymore, say not using abstinence from

426
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:08.279
drug. Okay, well it was
abstinence from this drug, but not that.

427
00:31:08.519 --> 00:31:12.640
Well that's fine because that's different and
your recovery, say, And it's

428
00:31:12.640 --> 00:31:15.279
like a big circle that just goes
around around because I think they want to

429
00:31:15.319 --> 00:31:18.319
include more people, so they want
to say hey, and they don't want

430
00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:22.119
to turn people away before when one
day they want to be in recovery.

431
00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:27.200
But I think by I don't want
to say like beating around the bush but

432
00:31:27.279 --> 00:31:32.519
not just addressing the issue, they're
making it easier for them to go back

433
00:31:32.519 --> 00:31:34.200
out and use. And it's like
saying, oh, well, relapse is

434
00:31:34.240 --> 00:31:38.599
part of recovery. Relapse is part
of the diction. Is it truly is?

435
00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:42.200
But if you start getting people to
think that way, like oh,

436
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:45.559
well I can just go use it
this weekend and then just come back and

437
00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:48.079
nothing's nothing's going to be wrong.
Yeah, I lost my job and got

438
00:31:48.160 --> 00:31:52.839
kicked out of my house or so
we're living. But it's cool because everybody

439
00:31:52.839 --> 00:31:56.680
tells me it's cool. Yes,
you know that, That's not a way

440
00:31:57.039 --> 00:32:00.559
I found because again, I want
to dream at fifty times, man,

441
00:32:00.680 --> 00:32:04.799
I tried every single thing I could
think of to do it my way,

442
00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:08.599
and it's how I was ready to
give up. I wasn't having a very

443
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:13.799
good life right and when I was
finally like, all right, I'm gonna

444
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:16.480
do it, I'm not going to
drink and I'm not going to do weed.

445
00:32:16.559 --> 00:32:20.799
I'm not going to do anything,
and I'm going to change my life.

446
00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:23.039
I don't know what I'm going to
do, but here's what I want

447
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:25.920
to do. So what do I
do to start that? And then we

448
00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:30.640
started to seventeen Recovery and things just
kind of went from there. But like

449
00:32:31.480 --> 00:32:37.319
you had to be willing to step
out and take a leap of faith and

450
00:32:37.319 --> 00:32:40.200
trust that God's got you. And
I don't know what I'm doing, Like

451
00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:44.519
there's a lot of times where I'm
just like, well, We've got to

452
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:46.799
put it in God's hands now,
because I think this is what he wants

453
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:51.160
me to do. I mean,
clearly is like Marnie, you know,

454
00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:54.400
when here I am wanting a woman
that's going to love me like I love

455
00:32:54.480 --> 00:33:00.599
her and someone who I can respect
and someone who's intelligent and beautiful and just

456
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:06.079
a good, good person. And
I was praying for that and then here

457
00:33:06.079 --> 00:33:08.279
comes to Marty in my life and
I'm no. I started making excuses.

458
00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:10.480
I'm not good enough. I don't
have a boat, I don't I don't

459
00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:13.599
have a job, you know,
too busy, Yeah, because I quit

460
00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:16.759
my job. And that was just
like all at that end, time was

461
00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:20.319
just going to school. But you
know, there was some nagging in there

462
00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:22.960
when I did. I had two
jobs manager of a sober living home,

463
00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:25.559
and it was like the I would
say, nagging, you know about and

464
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:29.200
she just wanted to talk to me. You know, it's very innocent,

465
00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:32.240
but I found excuses pushed her away, and then God was like what are

466
00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:36.680
you doing right, Like this is
the woman you've been praying for. I

467
00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:39.880
put her in your life and you
just push her away. And then so

468
00:33:39.920 --> 00:33:43.640
I tried to call her back and
was like, hey, I'm not a

469
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:45.559
booty calls, which she told me. I was like, damn it,

470
00:33:45.279 --> 00:33:49.160
no you're not. But I know
I messed this up. But then you

471
00:33:49.160 --> 00:33:52.480
know, we ended up getting back
together or whatever. But like that was

472
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:57.440
a sign from God and if you
look back at some of our vehicle issues.

473
00:33:57.519 --> 00:34:00.960
Let's take that for example, Yeah, boom boom boom boom boom boom,

474
00:34:00.000 --> 00:34:04.839
maybe those are signed from gaging.
All you might want to look into

475
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:07.920
maybe trying to get some new ones. And then you know, we're trying

476
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:12.440
to reach out to different organizations,
different people, because the main thing we

477
00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:14.559
do really is take people to them
from treatment. Well, I mean,

478
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:16.840
there's so many main things we do
at this point, but take people to

479
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:20.559
them from treatment who have no other
way to get there. That's why I

480
00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:25.480
mentioned earlier the governor writing a bus
to treatment and some treatment clothes, because

481
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:30.880
getting someone there using a recovery coach
is huge. It is such an advantage

482
00:34:30.880 --> 00:34:35.079
for them, it's insane, and
it's great for the recovery coach he's driving.

483
00:34:35.599 --> 00:34:39.400
And now really that you know,
it's even more sad because now we

484
00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:47.199
technically only have one vehicle that we
have to do rides. Yeah, and

485
00:34:47.199 --> 00:34:51.039
it's tough. It is tough.
So are we going to sit around and

486
00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:52.800
wait for them one to break down
and be f e somewhere. No,

487
00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:55.000
like, we got to make a
move. We gotta do something, and

488
00:34:55.039 --> 00:35:00.639
like these other organizations are just like
oh, with the opioid response money whatever.

489
00:35:01.320 --> 00:35:06.519
Whatever. Yeah, I know counties
that are spending it. The county

490
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:10.280
we're in, they're holding meetings every
month. That's pretty cool. But it

491
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:14.039
was like brought up, Hey,
how about we give to seventeen some stuff

492
00:35:14.039 --> 00:35:16.880
and this is immediate. This stuff
is immediate. And what they do they

493
00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:22.440
can't use their grants to buy vehicles, so let's help. We love what

494
00:35:22.519 --> 00:35:24.880
they do. Everybody agrees, Oh, yeah, that's great. That's great

495
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:28.239
until it comes time to hey,
can we give them a little piece of

496
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:32.280
this. Oh hold on, let's
vote on this next time. Okay,

497
00:35:32.360 --> 00:35:37.159
never mind, We'll just be because
honestly, I think the county is their

498
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:43.079
number two because after doing the report
and so that way we could show who

499
00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:49.119
does what. I think our county
that we reside in is number two on

500
00:35:49.159 --> 00:35:54.960
our list for the most rides I
remember correctly, Like they're in the top

501
00:35:55.000 --> 00:36:00.360
three of the rides that we do. Yep, I'd say they're probably one.

502
00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:06.840
No, no, no, our
friends across the street are number one

503
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:13.039
out of the I'm so cred as
far as when they're voting on it,

504
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:20.559
you know, but the rides that
we offer, we've given our number two

505
00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:23.920
slot for most rides that we've done
so far has been for the county that

506
00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:29.760
we reside in, for Grand Travers
County, like the jail yep. Okay,

507
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:35.559
I thought you were saying Ionia County
was number one and Grand travisers Okay,

508
00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:38.199
I was saying Grand Travers County is
probably number one. We give people

509
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:43.079
rights to and from, but as
a county, not the court or the

510
00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:45.079
sheriff, none of them. I
just met the county because you know,

511
00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:49.239
technically do rights for the county.
Oh yeah, for the county. I'm

512
00:36:49.239 --> 00:36:52.199
sure it's probably right up there is
the top county that we do rights.

513
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:55.320
Yeah. And it's just like one
day they're going to call us and they're

514
00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:58.639
like, yeah, well, all
of our cars are in the shop getting

515
00:36:58.639 --> 00:37:02.039
worked on because they have two hundred
fifty thousand miles on them. M Chevyes

516
00:37:02.039 --> 00:37:06.880
aren't supposed to do that. Neither
are Fords, because they're supposed to rust

517
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:09.800
out way before that. Yeah,
Fords will rust out before they ever die.

518
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:15.719
Yeah, and that's a good thing. And I guess I mean at

519
00:37:15.760 --> 00:37:20.920
least the powertrain stays running. Yeah. But then you start getting into because

520
00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:23.880
you know, when our vehicles was
twenty twelve and they're to twenty fifteen.

521
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:28.440
Oh yeah, they don't make that
part anymore, right, Like we don't

522
00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:30.639
have a backup camera now, right, because they went in to look at

523
00:37:30.679 --> 00:37:36.239
something else and they're like, oh
that for the switch. Yeah, and

524
00:37:36.280 --> 00:37:38.760
they tried unplugged or it was broken. They don't make it anymore. But

525
00:37:38.960 --> 00:37:43.000
in reality, all they had to
do was unscrew some bolts, pop the

526
00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:47.239
whole panel down, take out the
switch, unplug the switch from the wiring

527
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:52.840
harness they disconnected. Why they disconnected
that part of the wiring harness is beyond

528
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:59.320
me, but yeah, some people's
kids. Yeah, that was like eleven

529
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:01.159
hundred bucks just to look at that
and then give it back to us with

530
00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:07.760
more broke shit right again, No
license plate lights don't work, like we

531
00:38:07.920 --> 00:38:13.599
lost power across the whole lift gate. Yeah, thanks, yep, but

532
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:15.679
yeah, so call us for a
ride. Let's don't see what we can

533
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:19.679
do, right. Well, that's
that's the frustrating thing, is like the

534
00:38:19.719 --> 00:38:22.760
people that we help have nothing to
do with this, no, you know.

535
00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:28.000
And it's the same thing when the
treatment center up north left me left

536
00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:30.199
only like five grand and they ended
up paying like twenty three hundreds or something,

537
00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:34.840
and it's like wait, hold on, like, so you guys are

538
00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:39.000
actually getting tons of money from people
from them being there, but yet and

539
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:43.639
because they didn't turn the paperwork in, that's the reason why we didn't get

540
00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:47.960
paid. Failure to do their job, their job. And I can sit

541
00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:52.239
here and be like I hate them
whatever, blah blah blah. I think

542
00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:54.039
it's really petty of them to not
step up and do the right thing.

543
00:38:55.239 --> 00:38:59.199
But again, it's not about them, right, I don't think that person

544
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:02.480
works there anymore. I don't know, man, But it was just it

545
00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:07.239
was very frustrating. But again,
my beef with them or my beef with

546
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:10.239
another treatment center doesn't matter. I'm
taking this person where they need to go,

547
00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:15.280
and that's the bottom line. And
that's that's what it is. You

548
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:17.800
know, Like when I take people
to treatment centers and I'm just like they

549
00:39:17.800 --> 00:39:21.960
owe me money, I'll say that, I say, this is a good

550
00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:24.119
place, here's the stuff that you
can do, and you know, work

551
00:39:24.159 --> 00:39:27.800
on yourself, do whatever, blah
blah, And depending on what they're saying

552
00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:30.800
too, you know, but I
don't. I don't bash them because it's

553
00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:35.800
not about that. It's about this
person making it to a place and feeling

554
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:39.559
safe and feeling confident when they walk
in. Then you know they could change

555
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:43.480
their life if they want to.
I've actually referred to a lot of people

556
00:39:43.519 --> 00:39:47.480
to them after meeting some of their
employees. Yeah. Actually, I'd like

557
00:39:47.519 --> 00:39:52.440
to take a day aside to go
up there and actually tour their facility to

558
00:39:52.519 --> 00:39:59.440
feel still a tease up there,
you know, because I think to actually

559
00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:02.320
see what they do on one side
for the males and then see what they

560
00:40:02.360 --> 00:40:07.480
do on the female slash family side
would be really awesome to actually be able

561
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:12.159
to see what they do when.
Because I do, I'm like, hey,

562
00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:15.559
this place is really great. You
guys are gonna like it. They

563
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:20.199
really care. All their employees really
care. They put forth their best effort

564
00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:23.039
into making sure you're taken care of. Yeah. I like other people there,

565
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:28.400
except for the well maybe the one
guy who was like word and asked

566
00:40:28.400 --> 00:40:30.880
for none of them riotes. I
was like, it's funny you did,

567
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:35.119
because everybody who called me one of
your employees, their name is on that

568
00:40:35.719 --> 00:40:37.519
right as the one who called the
requests the right. So don't tell me

569
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:40.880
that put me a petty because you
guys didn't file it. You didn't,

570
00:40:42.000 --> 00:40:45.480
you didn't you didn't send it off
to get reimbursed. But we don't have

571
00:40:45.480 --> 00:40:47.920
to worry about that anymore either,
you know, because we're getting reimbursed from

572
00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:52.880
the PHP, which is great,
makes a lot easier. And they've they've

573
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:57.559
just been a godsend to NMRI.
Yeah, up here, we've for the

574
00:40:57.639 --> 00:41:01.760
services we provide for their clients,
period has been a godsend because how many

575
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:07.159
lives are we saving, how many
er visits are we saving the insurance company,

576
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:12.639
you know, by taking this person
to actually go get the treatment they

577
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:15.880
need versus leaving them at their home
until a friend calls nine one one.

578
00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:21.760
Well let's get an ambulance, you
know, let's ship them to the hospital.

579
00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:24.679
All well, from there they spend
how many days in the detax in

580
00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:31.159
the hospital? That's expensive. Yeah, I had to take a ambulance from

581
00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:37.239
Buchanan to Grand Rapids. It's pretty
far. Yeah, I bet, and

582
00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:42.440
I had Medicaid, you know,
and it was just like, oh,

583
00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:45.599
I have no other way to get
there, you know. And that's that's

584
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:47.960
a swim of thing. That's Southwest
Michigan bayor Health or the PIHP there.

585
00:41:50.480 --> 00:41:52.440
Not a big fan, no,
not a big fan of any of them.

586
00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:57.119
Except for Mr. Right. Neither
of am I because they're they're so

587
00:41:57.280 --> 00:42:00.599
set and telling you no. It's
like they have like a meeting before they

588
00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:02.440
start their day, you know,
on Mondays will come in here and do

589
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:05.440
a weekly check in. I think
they do that daily. We're like,

590
00:42:05.440 --> 00:42:10.320
okay, no, ha Bob,
No, all right, everybody's got their

591
00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:15.400
nose and let's go. No Ah, it's the phone. No Ah,

592
00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:17.599
I don't stop playing. You really
have to answer that now, stop it

593
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:21.199
with the nose, you know.
I think that's a little game for them

594
00:42:21.280 --> 00:42:23.719
or something. They act like it's
coming out of their pocket. Yeah,

595
00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:29.199
their personal Let me get my check
book out and one person that Swimba,

596
00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:30.400
you know, they told me like, what are we going to waste our

597
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:34.840
money on you again? Sending you
to an impatient treatment center? You obviously

598
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:38.599
don't learn anything. Oh, thanks, appreciate it. I feel like I

599
00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:42.599
just got hit by a truck.
You know. I'm shaking and I can't

600
00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:47.280
stop. The only way to stop
is to go drink more. I'm I'm

601
00:42:47.320 --> 00:42:51.719
tired. It was a bad idea. I thought I could hide a It

602
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:54.039
was like a twenty two ounce something
and I don't remember if I found it

603
00:42:54.119 --> 00:42:59.119
under the bed, or if I
stashed it under the bed, like oh,

604
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:02.719
couple relapses before, I think that's
what happened. And I found it

605
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:08.199
and I was like, oh I
could probably drink that. Nope, I

606
00:43:08.199 --> 00:43:12.119
couldn't, you know, speaking with
drinking that. I went and got some

607
00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:15.159
more and then I never stopped,
Like after I moved back in with my

608
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:19.920
current roommate, Like I went through
the whole apartment, every little nook and

609
00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:24.800
cranny. I'm like, what's all
in here? Bro, Like we're not

610
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:30.079
we're not playing this game again,
Like we're gonna find all the empty ones

611
00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:35.960
now throw them all away. So
that way there is none there's no desire

612
00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:40.039
saying oh well I found it and
it looked tempting, so I just went

613
00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:44.119
and bought more. You know,
I've had a good couple of months.

614
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:47.360
Why not reward myself. And that's
the way that our addiction will speak to

615
00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:50.679
us. You know, well,
we've had a good couple of months,

616
00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:53.599
you deserve one. Well, we
know it don't stop at one, especially

617
00:43:53.599 --> 00:44:00.440
with bench drinkers, and you know, it's it spirals out of control really

618
00:44:00.480 --> 00:44:07.159
fast, and it's it's sad.
You know, I really like my roommate.

619
00:44:07.239 --> 00:44:13.239
I think it's a really great person, you know, but occasionally it'll

620
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:19.639
relapse. Once you do, it's
it's tough to stop, and you can

621
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:23.760
tell yourself you're not gonna drink it
one hundred days in a row, that

622
00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:28.440
one hundred and first when you're like, at today's the thing, it's it's

623
00:44:28.480 --> 00:44:30.639
gonna happen. It's done. It's
over, and you won't stop it.

624
00:44:31.199 --> 00:44:34.719
And if you do, okay,
if you're lucky enough to just I'm just

625
00:44:34.760 --> 00:44:37.480
gonna do it tonight, it's gonna
do it this weekend, that next weekend,

626
00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:42.679
you're going back harder than before because
you made it. And I'm telling

627
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:45.159
you, like that's I've tried it
so many different times. He calls me

628
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:50.079
as a little bloodhound because I can
smell olchol from a mile away. I

629
00:44:50.119 --> 00:44:54.760
swear like OA call has always been
kind of gross to me, but I've

630
00:44:54.920 --> 00:44:59.400
always had a nose for it.
And I remember when I lived with him

631
00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:02.039
before I walked in and he's laying
on the couch. I walked into the

632
00:45:02.079 --> 00:45:06.920
bathroom, all I could smell was
alcohol, and I walked back out there.

633
00:45:06.960 --> 00:45:08.679
He's like trying to act like he's
passed out. So I wait till

634
00:45:08.679 --> 00:45:12.599
the next day. I'm like,
there's no way in how you were sleeping

635
00:45:12.639 --> 00:45:15.000
at seven o'clock last night. You
were drunk, you were passed out.

636
00:45:16.159 --> 00:45:20.760
I could smell it in the apartment
as soon as I walked in. He

637
00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:22.000
was like, no, you couldn't. I was like, yeah, I

638
00:45:22.000 --> 00:45:28.000
could. You're busted, dude.
He was like, man, there's nothing

639
00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:31.320
getting past you hung I was like, nope, you know, I can

640
00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:36.480
just smell it. I don't know
what it is. The smell just kind

641
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:38.960
of turns me off. Like I
enjoy going to concerts and stuff, but

642
00:45:39.000 --> 00:45:43.960
the biggest thing I hate is the
smell of alcohol. I could be around

643
00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:47.280
one hundred people smoking weed, be
fine, be around a hundred people drinking,

644
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:52.519
and I'd just rather walk away.
I don't know what it is.

645
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:58.400
Well, that's how it makes people
first, And I don't know. Like

646
00:45:58.599 --> 00:46:02.440
the weed thing is a little much
for me sometimes. But if I'm at

647
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:06.320
the store and somebody walks past me
and I skip the whiff of alcohol,

648
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:09.519
and I'm just like, really,
dude, right, But you don't see

649
00:46:09.519 --> 00:46:12.440
that as much as you do the
weed. You know, people think they

650
00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:15.159
can just smoke weed and drive around, which no, they got a woman

651
00:46:15.280 --> 00:46:22.039
reach out to us, or a
person reach out to us and ask for

652
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:29.559
some help about, you know,
stopping weed. And I sent a message

653
00:46:29.599 --> 00:46:31.079
back, didn't hear anything back,
and then I sent another message with some

654
00:46:31.199 --> 00:46:38.159
videos about like what marijuana does to
you and the steps that happen in your

655
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:43.599
brain and in your body when you
do stop smoking weed. And it was

656
00:46:43.599 --> 00:46:46.599
pretty interesting, and I hope they
took that to heart and realized, like,

657
00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:51.079
it's it's not gonna be the easiest
thing. And you know, weed's

658
00:46:51.079 --> 00:46:54.800
not as oh it's just harmless,
man, it's it's legal again, stop

659
00:46:54.840 --> 00:46:59.679
it. If you think the state
or government cares about you, then they

660
00:46:59.679 --> 00:47:04.320
don't. This is all about making
money. It's why they come up with

661
00:47:04.599 --> 00:47:08.039
recreational weed. So that way,
it's the most tax thing in Michigan,

662
00:47:08.599 --> 00:47:14.800
the highest tax. They're breaking all
this money off of it. And then

663
00:47:14.840 --> 00:47:17.519
they got the alcohol tax. They
breaking all this money off alcohol tax too,

664
00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:24.280
cigarette tax. Everything bad for you
is tax to death and the state

665
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:28.840
just makes tons of money on it. And all they got to do is

666
00:47:28.880 --> 00:47:34.360
say, oh, well, you're
responsible for putting out these commercials, say

667
00:47:34.480 --> 00:47:38.920
please drink responsibly. Yeah, well, if I could drink responsibly, I

668
00:47:38.920 --> 00:47:45.199
wouldn't be in the situation I'm in. You know, it's just a snowball

669
00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:49.679
effect. It's a money. It's
a numbers game to them. It's nothing

670
00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:57.679
else strictly numbers. Yeah, that's
how I kind of look at it.

671
00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:00.639
And when you look at it,
if you took it away, like if

672
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:09.199
if people didn't do if people stopped
committing crimes for a whole month, that

673
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:16.199
would cripple the system. You know, crime sometime, I would drug everything.

674
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:21.880
If you just if people just stopped
for a month, the jails are

675
00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:28.639
empty, it would It would be
nuts and then he is not a crime.

676
00:48:28.679 --> 00:48:30.840
But if you stop, if everybody
just stopped drinking, stop smoking weed,

677
00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:37.559
stop smoking cigarettes, stop vaping for
a month, crippled it would?

678
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:42.760
It would? Because they depend on
that money. It's ten dollars. It's

679
00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:46.000
ten dollars now for a pack of
cigarettes. Their schools are nice, aren't

680
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:54.000
they. Man that saw this sad
because I saw what the state gave,

681
00:48:54.599 --> 00:48:59.920
because they got billions of dollars or
whatever, and they gave like it's like

682
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:06.119
one point five million of the schools. Oh good job, Northern schools.

683
00:49:05.519 --> 00:49:08.480
Like that may help out Detroit's public
schools, But what about the rest of

684
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:15.119
the state nothing. And I was
at a grocery store the other day and

685
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:19.039
I was reading they had like a
little lotto thing up there, and they

686
00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:22.000
kind of want to make you feel
better about giving the money to them,

687
00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:27.800
and they're like, we've spent twenty
three billion dollars on schools. Let's pump

688
00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:30.679
the brakes on that, because they're
I think they're including all the states that

689
00:49:30.760 --> 00:49:34.679
run that lottery, right, which, okay, Texas they might have given

690
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:37.840
eight million, you know, but
they're combining it all to make it seem

691
00:49:37.880 --> 00:49:39.000
like this huge number. It's like
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

692
00:49:39.079 --> 00:49:45.639
whoa whoa. That was me stopping
it like an old record player. But

693
00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:49.679
yeah, as Michigan's where's the rest
of that money going? Right? Oh,

694
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:52.639
well, we put the rest in
which is this is the funniest part

695
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:58.199
of it. Well not really.
It goes to the EMS workers' pension fund.

696
00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:02.239
That's weird the fuck, like what
And it goes to help them pay

697
00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:13.119
their deductibles for their health insurance what
sense. And that's another one I didn't

698
00:50:13.159 --> 00:50:15.599
touch on. Out of all the
taxes, like you have the gambling tax

699
00:50:16.880 --> 00:50:22.320
in the state, Like there's that
going Justin. It's going to help people

700
00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:27.199
with the commercials and billboards, right
right, m h call that number.

701
00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:30.599
I'm telling you call that eight hundred
number. I need to one of these

702
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:34.199
days. You can be so let
down. Also, just were you in

703
00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:36.360
here? When you were in here? When I called it was I?

704
00:50:36.639 --> 00:50:38.800
Was it Mitch? I think it
was Mitch. I don't think I was

705
00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:43.119
here for that one. I'm gone
a lot, and you get me confused.

706
00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:46.719
Like we see each other some days, but in other days it's just

707
00:50:46.760 --> 00:50:52.519
in passing and we crack jokes on
each other, you know, Adam,

708
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:55.360
Adam, And then you tell me
you quit breaking stuff as you were walking

709
00:50:55.360 --> 00:50:59.559
out the door, like, please
don't break nothing tomorrow, would you please?

710
00:50:59.639 --> 00:51:02.199
It doesn't help me telling you that. It's not like I do it

711
00:51:02.280 --> 00:51:08.440
intentionally. I can't control when the
liftgate motor is just going to pop off

712
00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:15.119
its little balls attached to Yeah,
I don't know. Justin. Then the

713
00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:19.360
TV wasn't working here earlier. I
was like, did Justin have anything to

714
00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:25.280
do with this? In your office? No? In the meeting room.

715
00:51:25.480 --> 00:51:32.400
Oh dang, it got my new
TV, thanks Justin. You know what

716
00:51:32.480 --> 00:51:37.239
I got big shoulders. I can
handle a lot of things. Yeah,

717
00:51:38.119 --> 00:51:43.119
and it's okay for you to blame
me when something breaks. I'll give you

718
00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:47.239
the outlet. Yeah, we got
to wrap it up before we do though.

719
00:51:49.559 --> 00:51:52.920
Oh yeah, we got to talk
about some events. Yes, yes,

720
00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:55.639
of course you fam. We talked
about this next Thursday, Lancing.

721
00:51:57.760 --> 00:52:00.480
We have a link on our website
and we made a video which is kind

722
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:07.559
of cute. Two seventeen Recovery dot
com. Check that out, and we

723
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:10.800
have Reeling in Recovery. Yes,
that would be our next event. Well,

724
00:52:10.800 --> 00:52:15.559
we have another one coming up Monday, but that's yeah, making meals

725
00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:20.760
in May with Loreana West in Traversity, I learned how to cook healthy hell

726
00:52:20.880 --> 00:52:27.880
yeah, yeah, that's pretty cool. And yeah, Reeling in Recovery yep.

727
00:52:28.079 --> 00:52:31.119
Which we're gonna go fishing June eighth
and ninth. It's free fishing weekend

728
00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:35.679
in Michigan. I can't wait to
see the promo video for that and Jay

729
00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:37.880
supporting it. Yeah, we've been
doing some silly stuff at the office.

730
00:52:38.480 --> 00:52:43.440
Jay sporting good in gay Lord.
I don't call it gay Lord, f

731
00:52:43.559 --> 00:52:46.960
YI, Gaylord. They hooked us
up a couple of fishing poles and a

732
00:52:46.960 --> 00:52:50.400
little bit of gear, and we
went out and got some more, but

733
00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:54.480
appreciate them for doing that and supporting
people in recovery, because fishing is what

734
00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:59.519
I've heard people say, I don't
know how much if it's sober, Yeah,

735
00:52:59.679 --> 00:53:01.400
fish drink. How am I going
to do this sober? We're gonna

736
00:53:01.400 --> 00:53:04.840
take some people out. We're going
to fish. But since we have a

737
00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:08.039
limited amount of poles, we were
like, we're gonna definitely get more than

738
00:53:08.039 --> 00:53:12.360
this signing up, so we're gonna
have to break it up into shifts the

739
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:15.960
way people can take turn with a
pole. So eight to nine on the

740
00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:20.000
eighth, I'm going to run a
team out there. Nine to ten,

741
00:53:20.199 --> 00:53:22.400
You're going to be the guide,
and then Mitch is going to do ten

742
00:53:22.440 --> 00:53:24.880
to eleven guy, And then we're
gonna have like a little picnic or whatever

743
00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:28.000
at the park too, so that'll
be fun. And I sent you a

744
00:53:28.039 --> 00:53:30.119
bunch of fishing pictures. You did, you asked? They're going in there,

745
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:32.960
they're going on the pro so you
can see a lot of my trophies

746
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:38.360
that I've caught over my life span, and you'll see mine winter on the

747
00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:45.360
river on the lake. Mitch in
any No, he's fishing by himself.

748
00:53:45.480 --> 00:53:52.199
He doesn't. I don't believe that
because even when I went fishing by myself,

749
00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:55.199
like you still take pictures of your
fish. It's kind of like one

750
00:53:55.239 --> 00:53:58.920
of those things. If you don't
take pictures, then it happened, right.

751
00:53:59.800 --> 00:54:04.519
And another thing we got coming up
in June is Recovery Stories Part three,

752
00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:08.280
Yes, with Sober Eats being a
food truck. Yeah. Yeah,

753
00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:13.440
I've been NMRI is helping us out
with that because the last two events we

754
00:54:13.880 --> 00:54:16.719
did it on our own and everybody
was like, hey, you know and

755
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:24.960
Dave. I got Dave, David
Freeman, he was like, hey,

756
00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:28.320
you know, this could be possible
that we can help you with this.

757
00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:32.960
So like okay, cool. So
they're helping us, so big things to

758
00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:37.400
them. Yeah, and it's going
to help people in early recovery. And

759
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:42.000
it's a fun event. Like you
said, food truck. He doesn't love

760
00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:45.920
some tacos sober Eats. And we
are also doing a couple of events for

761
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:52.199
cherry Fest. Yeah. Following that, if you are interested in helping us

762
00:54:52.199 --> 00:54:54.639
at cherry Fest, please come in
and sign up at the office. See

763
00:54:54.719 --> 00:55:00.559
Mitch, he's having that little division
this year. I was a shot that

764
00:55:00.599 --> 00:55:01.599
was going to work and I was
like, probably shouldn't commit to that.

765
00:55:02.239 --> 00:55:06.599
And next thing I know, he's
running around with a volunteer sheet form and

766
00:55:06.639 --> 00:55:08.360
he's like, nope, I got
it. We can get them because he

767
00:55:08.400 --> 00:55:13.559
went last year. It was fun. You know. I drove sometimes people

768
00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:15.679
back and forth, all the times
you drove us. One day, I

769
00:55:15.719 --> 00:55:20.079
showed up on time to work and
you're like, you're supposed to be here

770
00:55:20.119 --> 00:55:23.480
a half hour ago. Where were
you at? And I was like,

771
00:55:24.199 --> 00:55:30.679
oh, sorry, I forgot about
that, but it was needed. You

772
00:55:30.719 --> 00:55:34.639
know. There's a lot of traffic, crazy stuff going on. So yeah,

773
00:55:34.679 --> 00:55:37.199
we have some events coming up.
It'll be pretty cool. The fishing

774
00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:45.559
thing will be fun. And recovery
stories Message of Hope Part three. We

775
00:55:45.679 --> 00:55:54.840
got Luke telling her story right,
yep, Sorry, Marnie's texting me about

776
00:55:57.039 --> 00:56:02.199
coming home or the office. And
then we got Tim right, who's confirmed?

777
00:56:02.199 --> 00:56:06.400
Now I got two thumbs up,
So I don't know what that means,

778
00:56:06.519 --> 00:56:10.440
but I'm a man named Tim.
I'm pretty sure that's confirmed then.

779
00:56:12.039 --> 00:56:15.840
And who's given the stories? Because
those are our Messages of Hope, our

780
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:23.639
very own Matt re Becky sweet and
our friend Corey Smoker. Awesome, I

781
00:56:23.679 --> 00:56:28.599
can't wait, I said, friend. Yeah, Now she's gonna be with

782
00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:31.039
us at the U family to helping
out her and her husband. Yes,

783
00:56:31.159 --> 00:56:37.480
it'll be fun. And who's I'm
seeing the recovery stories this time? Big

784
00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:44.000
bear Mitch? Big Bear Mitch.
Can we make him wear the bear mask?

785
00:56:44.239 --> 00:56:46.199
We can? We should, oh, because he'll be like, I'm

786
00:56:46.239 --> 00:56:51.159
not looked nothing over eight pounds,
and he'll start telling us what he's gonna

787
00:56:51.159 --> 00:56:52.440
do, but he won't mention the
mask. So hit him with the mask.

788
00:56:52.480 --> 00:56:54.679
Oh, yeah, you gotta wear
the mask. Yeah, we should

789
00:56:54.719 --> 00:57:00.320
definitely make him wear of the mask
and the jean jacket. Yes, yeah,

790
00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:05.000
yeah, But it'll be fun and
there'll be more details on the fishing

791
00:57:05.000 --> 00:57:08.119
trip probably will be up tomorrow,
because how you're going to get into that

792
00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:13.960
is you're going to sign up and
then you're gonna pick whatever guide you want

793
00:57:14.199 --> 00:57:15.840
or maybe whatever time you want.
Right, maybe you're like, I'm an

794
00:57:15.880 --> 00:57:17.840
eight to nine kind of guy.
I think that'd be great. Well,

795
00:57:17.840 --> 00:57:22.199
then you want to be fishing with
me. You don't have to bait your

796
00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:27.440
hook, you won't have to get
the fish off the hook. It sounded

797
00:57:27.480 --> 00:57:31.639
bad and maybe some drone I don't
know, is it a legal official drone?

798
00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:36.280
I don't know, you find find
out where they're at. And did

799
00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:38.280
that at the in the bay the
other day. Well, it'll be in

800
00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:44.480
the video. A good scouting tool
for you. Yeah, you know,

801
00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:47.039
we'll do high tech stuff. Me
on the other justice going in like Captain

802
00:57:47.079 --> 00:57:52.000
Kate Man, Yeah, I put
on I don't take your fish off the

803
00:57:52.000 --> 00:57:57.000
hooks. I don't either. I
ain't doing none of that stuff like you

804
00:57:57.119 --> 00:58:00.800
have to bail the man your own
stuff. He's throwing right back in right

805
00:58:00.440 --> 00:58:04.480
on the hook and catch a turtle. That's how you do that. That's

806
00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:07.639
how you catch pike. You catch
your turtles too, and sharks. Let's

807
00:58:07.679 --> 00:58:14.239
how you catch a big pike.
The big pike I showed you. There

808
00:58:14.280 --> 00:58:17.320
you go. I have bluegill about
three three or four inches. He's gonna

809
00:58:17.320 --> 00:58:21.519
get him some numb numbs. And
oh he sure did. Justin got him

810
00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:24.159
some numb numbs. Yeah, I
think it was huge. But look at

811
00:58:24.159 --> 00:58:28.519
our website the next few days if
you're interested in the fishing thing, and

812
00:58:28.719 --> 00:58:31.119
maybe it is a few days already. This is being recorded on the eighth,

813
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so you know it's a little couple
days past. Check out our website.

814
00:58:37.400 --> 00:58:39.920
Look at Justin's fishes. Check out
our video. If we have that

815
00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:44.679
up and sign up. If you
want to fish with us, all right,

816
00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:46.960
you don't need nothing. You don't
need nothing. We got the poles,

817
00:58:46.960 --> 00:58:51.320
we got the bait, we got
the food woman, and my daughter

818
00:58:51.440 --> 00:58:57.840
there. Justin's daughter will be there, Mitch's son won't. Maybe be there,

819
00:58:57.880 --> 00:59:01.239
who knows who. It'll be a
good time even if you not fishing.

820
00:59:01.239 --> 00:59:04.000
If you want to come and hang
out and has some fun, we'll

821
00:59:04.039 --> 00:59:07.840
be around later. So check out
two seventeen recovery dot com and as Justin

822
00:59:08.000 --> 00:59:14.800
said, uh yeah later. Thanks
for listening to the two seventeen Recovery podcast.

823
00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:17.960
We hope you come back for our
next episode.

