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Where are we at in society today? Come after me. I'm a man,

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I'm forty. Go ahead, make
my day every single week. I

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put my freaking heart and soul into
this. I don't go out there and

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laugh. It's not funny. Nothing's
funny to me. I don't want to

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go out there and get embarrassed on
Monday night football. For everybody, I

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think this is the beginning of a
beautiful friendship. So I ain't nothing changed

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from yesterday. You're still the same
person I was yesterday, and I got

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the same thing for you that I
had yesterday. You know why I'm here.

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You play to win the game.
You don't play to just play it.

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That's a great thing about sports.
You play to win, and I

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don't care if you don't have any
wins. You go play to win.

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When you start telling me it doesn't
matter to retire, get out for the

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matters. He has a home run
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agent acquisition in Detroit this year?
Is that Vladimir Tarasenko? Is it Tobias

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this morning. Tiger's losers last night
in extras nine to eight, valiant effort

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in the comeback. What does that
mean to you? I mean when you're

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down big and your team comes back
ties it at seven, down six,

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zip at one point, ties it
at seven, giving you hope, pushing

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it to extra innings only to lose
nine to eight. Cleveland now seven and

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two in extra frames? What does
it mean to you anything at all?

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Look Urschella and Keith and molloy all
homer, but Detroit makes two more errors,

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one by Maeta, one by Perez, and speaking of Maeta, he

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continues to stink up the ballpark.
You know, when a guy like Parker

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Meadows or Spencer Turkulsen or a kill
Badou struggle, they get sent down.

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That's because they have options, right, That's It's an easy understanding. When

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a veteran like kent To Maeta on
a two year contract making fourteen million dollars

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this year, struggles, they keep
trying them out there. There's not a

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whole lot they can do unless he
comes up with some mysterious injury. Kent

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To Mayeta allows six runs, seven
hits, two home runs in two and

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two thirds innings. It's one thing
struggling, It's one thing losing. It's

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another thing not giving your team,
not just a chance to win. That's

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an easy cliche that many of us
use on a pretty regular basis, and

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I have to quite a bit because
I do think there's something to be said

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for that. But it's another thing, not even lasting enough to rest your

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bullpen. These are taxing starts for
Kent Tamaieta, and I don't mean taxing

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for him, I mean taxing for
the bullpen. I mean it throws things

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off. You're a manager. You've
got a whiteboard, it's not a computer.

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And you've got all the names.
You got Trent Bally, you got

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Will vest Right, you got all
these different guys, Tyler Holden, all

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these different names, and then you
list or you have their availability, last

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time they pitched, how much they
pitched, how he pitches they threw.

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This is a guy right now,
he's going three and a third, two

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and two thirds, two winnings,
four and two thirds, four innings,

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four and two thirds, three and
two thirds, two and two thirds sucks,

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I mean it does. It's it's
just awful. What's your team supposed

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to do about something like that?
It's horrendous stuff, and it's tough to

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recover. Here's a guy. You
know, the longest he has thrown this

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year? How many how deep he
has gone into a game this year?

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Like everybody's talking about the era,
and it's it's justified. The era is

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terrible, right, the era is
closer to eight now. But do you

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know the longest he has gone this
year is six innings? Twice? Only

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happened twice. May first against Saint
Louis and got to win. And April

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thirteenth against Minnesota and he took a
no decision. That's as far as he

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has gone this season. He's gone
over ninety pitches just once. And that's

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not because well, we wanted to
get him out of there. He's tiring

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a little bit. That's because they
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It's not an experiment. Man,
He's supposed to be a key contributor to

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this pitching staff. When you go
into a season and you've got Casey Mize

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and Trek Scoubel and Jack Flaherty and
Rhees Solsen and ken To Maada Kent.

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Tomayata was supposed to be a guy
who's you know, remember Mice is coming

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off an injury. So this doesn't
have anything to do with talent. This

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has to do with available and how
careful you're going to be with a guy.

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So you're thinking, well, well, maybe he's he's a back end

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guy. Reese Olsen, this is
his first full season. He's probably a

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back end guy. You get Flarity
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mindset here. Those guys should be
your top three guys. Mi Aida has

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stunk, Flarity has been injured a
little bit. Schoob has been a horse.

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Olson's been a horse. It's frustrating. Man. My Aida has allowed

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fifteen runs in his last two starts. You know how long he's lasting in

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those two starts? Six and the
third innings. That's it. So when

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people continue to say, how can
you trot out Howvey or bias on a

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regular basis, and I understand that
mindset, I don't disagree with it.

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I'd love to see the Tigers take
a stand and say enough is enough,

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or buy them out. I don't
think they have anybody to take his place,

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but I'd love to see them buy
them out. Because the contract is

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strapping. It's difficult to overcome.
Understand this, You buy them out,

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it doesn't mean that you're gonna use
that twenty three million dollars anyplace else.

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It's not like they're going to go
all right, there's twenty three million freed

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up now they're paying him. Yeah, and this might sound obvious, but

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he quite literally is untradable. For
anyone out there who thinks maybe you should

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move him, you can't for sure. I mean you could try and package

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him. Hey sent Eric School but
you got to take Bayaz too. That

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might be a deal breaker for a
lot of teams. Right, they may

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go out and say, forget it, I'll go get Garat Crochet. Right,

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So I understand because I've said it
too. You know what, how

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can you keep trotting out? How
your bias? How do you keep trotting

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out Kuntamata. Let's use our frustration
for more than just one player. We

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use it for one guy because he's
been perhaps the biggest disappointment in Tigers were

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close to it in recent Tiger's free
agent history. Is that fair? Yeah?

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Yeah, I think so. Jordan
Zimmerman's probably up there too, right,

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And Zimmerman was dealing with a ton
of injuries, by the way,

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and he started out remember six and
zero, So you're right, it's a

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great point. But he's also every
fifth day. This guy plays a key

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position, and it is supposed to
be an everyday contributor. Little history made

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for Jose Ramirez, we'll tell you
about that, and the home run history

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twenty one thousand Tigers lose nine to eight

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history made last night. Jose Ramirez
is the third player in the modern era

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to be intentionally walked three times and
steal two bases in a game. He

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was intentionally walked in the sixth,
in the eighth, and in the tenth.

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I got no problem with it,
none, because this dude is the

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most dangerous hitter in their lineup,
number one and number two. I respect

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the hell out of this guy.
Honesty, gooness. He's one of He's

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one of my favorite players. Switch
hitter power both sides, steels bases solid,

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defensively, hits for average. What
more do you want? This show

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has not succumbed to just let's talk
about the opposing team's players. This is

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a guy I have always admired.
He goes three for three yesterday and he's

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on base six times. You talk
about production, Think about this. He

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goes three for three, scores twice, walks three times, steals two bags.

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Oh and by the way, he's
got seventy seven runs bad at it?

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You like he You damn right?
That's production. What is the difference?

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It's not the only difference, right, I Mean, Cleveland's good at

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a lot of things, but one
of the primary differences between Cleveland and other

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teams in this division. Now Kansas
City has found it. Okay, Minnesota

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to a certain extent, think about
it for a minute. And this is

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not the NBA where you can get
two, perhaps three oftentimes needed three superstars

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or stars. Okay, I don't
know if Kyrie Irving's a superstar any longer

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he was at one point, but
he's a star. Him and Luka Doncic

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the primary reason Dallas played for a
championship. Fair enough, Okay, very

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look at the best teams in baseball
and tell me if they don't have at

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least one superstar or star. How
many all stars does that Phillies have?

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Yeah, isn't it like six or
seven? Well, so that's a good

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question. Bryce Harper is a superstar. I think Trey Turner is a superstar,

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and I think j t Rila Muto
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Baum? No? Is Nick Castiano's
I would say no, is Brandon Marsh.

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I would say no. Very good
players, but I don't think they're

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stars. I don't think Nick Castianis
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But for sure they have at least
three, and one of them's out

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for the year in real Muto with
a knee and a bunch of guys who

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have star moments. Is that fair? Yeah? Absolutely? Absolutely, Like

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I don't know if I don't know
if Baltimore has a ton of superstars.

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They got stars though, and eventually
they're on the they're on the arc a

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trajector because they're all young. Absolutely
right, Yankees got two stars, two

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superstars they are, and Judge and
Won Soda are superstars. Right. Think

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about it for a second. Boston, Raphael Devers is a is a flipping

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superstar. That dude's an unbelievable player. Toronto's got a couple of stars.

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Minnesota's got Carlos Carrea, he's a
star. Kansas City with Bobby wit Junr.

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We know that. Give me Detroit
star, you're gonna say, Trek

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Schouoble, I get it. All
the other guys I've mentioned, they're everyday

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players. I'm not talking about pictures
here. I'm talking about guys who are

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playing on a regular basis, Guys
who can impact a series, not just

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one game, no doubt, thank
you, or can impact every game.

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Think about it for just a moment. I would love for it to be

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Riley Green. I hope this is
the beginning of Riley Green's stardom. I

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can't say that it is yet,
but most of the good teams and Texas

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is just below five hundred. But
they're coming off a world championship. They've

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got plenty of stars. Houston think
about it, Atlanta absolutely, the Mets,

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who are now at five hundred,
they've got it. Maybe Milwaukee doesn't.

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Maybe Christine Yelich used to be right. Will the adamis I don't know.

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If he's I wouldn't consider him a
star controverst I don't know. But

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most teams, most of the good
teams, they've got star slash superstars.

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Man Tigers do not. I was
thinking about it while watching Ramirez. He's

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a phenomenal player. He's just under
the proverbial radar because probably because he plays

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in Cleveland. I don't know why
more people don't appreciate him. I think

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Cleveland does. I know Cleveland does, and they should. I've told this

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story before. Stop me if i've
heard it, Trent. But I remember

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just a couple of years ago,
sitting in the Dugouy with AJ Hinch,

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and I said, if you could
have one player to impact your lineup every

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single day? Who would it be? He didn't even hesitate. He didn't

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he didn't pause and look up into
the sky and say, let me think

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about that for me. He said
right away, Jose Ramirez third base.

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Something we need, switch hitter,
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speed plus posts. Dude posts every
flipping day. I mean, this

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is the kind of guy. Again, I'm not trying to be Cleveland Radio

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here, okay, but I just
you know, you get a chance to

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play them, you see them on
a regular basis. If you follow baseball

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at all, you're recognizing what he
has done in his career, right and

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perennial all start not to say that
that's gospel, but also shep we're talking

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about a Guardians team that is top
five in the league and has been all

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season. Yeah, and that's just
if we look at it from the scope

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of this season. You know,
he's been phenomenal now for seven eight years.

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Oh yeah, man, I mean, he's listen. I don't know.

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I'm not going to put him in
a category about Tani or Freeman or

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something like that, but I'm telling
you right now, this dude is perhaps

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well, I'll just say it.
I think he's the most underrated player in

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baseball. So he makes another All
Star appearance this year. Right, his

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set means he six, but he's
now made for in a row. Yeah,

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okay, he's in the MVP top
ten on a regular basis. Last

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year, finished tenth year before,
fourth year before that, sixth year before

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that. Second, finished third in
twenty eighteen, finished third in twenty seventeen.

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He's won six Silver Sluggers the Baller
period, absolute baller. Tigers don't

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have anybody like that. You want
the primary reason, the primary reason Cleveland

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is where they are, and the
reason the reason Cleveland has been as competitive

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as they've been and winning as much
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absolutely, they've had the Corey Kluebers, right, they've had the Shane Biebers

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absolutely, and they got him annual
Class A at the back end. It's

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all good stuff. But this dude, every single day in your lineup is

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a difference maker. He's a threat. And Temley walked him three times last

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night, all with the game in
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guy step into the plate right and
two stolen bases. So the third player

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in the modern era to do that, Detroit helped a little history last night.

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most in the thirteen game schedule.
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Huge Show in the Michigan Sports Network, I'll deliver huge opinions on everything you're

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talking about during the break. I
looked up ops on base plus slugging.

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It's a statistic that the Tigers' front
office values. I know this because I've

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been told this by the Tigers' front
office. It's a really important statistic that

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an OPS plus, which takes into
account. Well, it doesn't matter where

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you play, it doesn't matter your
ballpark, so OPS is an important statistic.

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And in Major League Baseball right now, there are seventeen players, including

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Jose Ramirez, by the way,
who have an OPS of eight sixty,

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eight sixty or better. That's an
impressive number on base plus slugging, and

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that's what you've got. Okay,
kent to my EIGHTA. This is hard

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to fathom, it really is.
Kent to my EIGHTA. Let me just

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say this before we get rolling here. The league average for a team is

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seven oh six OPS. Bloss or
ops. The league average is seven zero

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six. Tigers are among the worst
in that category, but that shouldn't surprise

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you. That's the league average.
Kent to my EIGHTA. Has allowed opponents

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an OPS of eight seventy one.
There are seventeen players who are eight sixty

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or better. That may be too
many numbers for you, but that's why

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I've repeated it a couple times.
Like Aaron Judge and Shoeyo Tani are off

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the flipping charts. They're over a
thousand ops. Gunnar Henderson nine eighty three,

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the league average is seventy seven zero
one, and Kent Tamaeta has allowed

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one hundred points higher than that.
That's how bad he has been. I'm

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giving you a perspective here that's nuts, absolutely nuts. And it makes sense

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when you start reading off how many
innings he's gotten through Chef you did that

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a couple segments ago. Yeah,
you can't go five. He's getting shelld

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Think about how much that handcuffs and
manager Trent, Yeah, you know your

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bullpen will be taxed today. Two
and two thirds innings is what he gives

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you yesterday. And these are the
things that oftentimes I think our audience pays

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attention to it and understands it.
Okay, but think about this. The

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Tigers last night needed to use four
relievers. Now Cleveland used more, but

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they used him for less innings.
Joey Wentz two and a third, Bowbrisky

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two and two thirds, Andrew chaff
In an inning, Will Vest one in

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a third. That doesn't mean none
of them are available tonight. They are,

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Okay, Chaffin's available, West or
vest I should say, I need

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to look at his h how many
games in a row he's thrown? But

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well, Cleveland's got they used more
pitchers. But remember Nick Sandlin used eight

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pitches, Scott Barlow had fourteen pitches. Class A used nine pitches. That's

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not a big deal. Here's Detroit's
pitchers. You're ready. My Ada throws

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forty nine, Wentz uses sixty five, Brisky thirty Chafe. In twenty Vest

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twenty nine, Detroit threw more than
fifty pitches more than Cleveland, and Cleveland

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used an extra bullpen arm. Now
you may not think fifty pitches is a

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lot, but in a perfect world, what you're doing is you're using about

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fifteen to sixteen pitches in an inning
to get them out. That's what you'd

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like. So fifty pitches, what
is that? Another three and a half

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may almost four innings? Yep,
of guys. Now you maybe think I'm

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reaching. There might be some people
driving, there might be some people listening.

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Wherever it is. You may be
listening and thinking, oh, man,

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come on, you're really pushing,
you're really reaching it. No,

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no, no, these are things
that managers, pitching coaches, assistant pitching

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coaches. Robin Lund who is the
assistant pitching coach Chris Fetter to the pitching

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coach, they are all monitoring.
They are making these guys this is taxing

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stuff well, and these are facts
too. This is not opinion based.

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The proofs in the pudding. You
can tell me you're getting bored with numbers,

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But the reason chefs bringing you the
numbers is because it's important to contextualize

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just how bad my ATA has been
and how it affects them moving forward.

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It jeopardizes your bullpen for the rest
of the series. Is the bottom of

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game exactly exactly when a guy can't
throw five innings, when a guy can't

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even throw four innings half the time, and you're using three four relievers to

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finish the game, and most likely
you're losing that game because he got shelled

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so early. It's a lose lose, And not just that, it's even

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the fact that your relievers, your
relievers have to use as many pitches as

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they do. That's a problem when
you're out there and you can't get those

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outs. You can't get the quick
outs I don't always expected. Okay,

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I'm not talking about doing a bugs
buddy, one two, three strikes,

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you're out, one two, three
strikes, you're out, and doing that

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repeatedly. No, I'm realistic when
it comes to this stuff. I understand

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it. I understand the challenges,
okay, but when you see it on

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a pretty regular basis, man,
it takes It takes a lot out of

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you when you got to march to
the mound as often as aj Hinch does

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when kent to my ada is pitching. Now, what what this might do

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though? What many people may look
at this and say, well, then

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why aren't you letting other guys go
deeper? So Montero yesterday, I think

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he would he throws seventy three pitches
something like that. Trent, Yeah,

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I can double check for you,
perhaps something like that. So that's a

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problem. So the league average,
Detroit is well well below the league average

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when it comes to total pitches thrown. Phone number the Meyer hotline is eight

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sixty six eight three eight forty eight
forty three. The text line sports Radio

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to twenty one thousand. I had
teased that Pistons made some news, but

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something you already knew. They made
it official. Cad Cunningham signs the rookie

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Max deal, five year, two
hundred and twenty four million dollars. That's

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the extension. We knew this right
a couple of weeks back, Yes,

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that this was broken. I'm I'm
glad it's done. And you know,

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I don't know how people overall feel
about Caid Cunningham because unfortunately for him,

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I just think people over the last
couple of years, when you when you're

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winning seventeen games and then fourteen games, I just don't think you're grabbing many

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people. I don't think there's it's
hard to endear yourself to a fan base

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that doesn't care, and that's not
on them, that's on the organization.

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So it's I don't I'm not blaming
kid Cunningham by any stretch. I think

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he's a really good player. Don't
know if he's a great player. I

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don't know if he's an All Star. We'll see. I think we all

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reserve the right to be able to
say, let's wait and see, let's

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be patient. We don't have to
go out there and say, damn it.

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I knew it he was going to
be an All Star. I told

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you this a couple of years ago. People don't remember that stuff. They

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just don't all right, It's okay
to say I like him. I think

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he's a really solid player. Let's
see if he becomes as quote unquote great

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as a first overall pick should be. But I like this because of what

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we were just talking about with star
players. This guy, Kate Cunningham has

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a chance to be a star player. Would you agree with that? Absolutely?

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If you look at his trajectory,
chef, just quickly, he's averaging

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twenty three points per game last season, career highs almost across the board,

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three point shooting, all that stuff, and now you're adding in some better

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shooters around him. He's a ball
dominant guy. I love the move me

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too. Now you bring up an
interesting point with the ball dominant guy,

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I don't know if I I think
he for the most part, makes pretty

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good decisions. Okay, and let's
not read too deep into what the assist

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level is. But you're averaging seven
and a half a CI last year.

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Because you brought up I think the
fact that he averaged twenty three points per

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game, correct, seven assists per
game? Pretty damn good. Now,

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the turnovers need to be limited,
but pretty damn good. If I gave

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you a player and I said they're
going to give you twenty three, seven

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and a half and even four boards
are somewhere in that neighborhood from the guard

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position, would you take it absolutely, and he's playing a lot of minutes.

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He's playing steady minutes at thirty.
Each of the last two years he's

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played over thirty three minutes a game. For you, you take that as

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a point guard, no doubt.
Tyrese Haliburton, who's on Team USA,

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got a lot of love last season
and rightfully sol for leading the Pacers to

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an Eastern Conference finals perth twenty points
per game, eleven assists, so a

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little bit better in the passing department, but same idea right ball dominant and

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by the way, he played sixty
nine games last season, so he missed

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some time. For those who are
jumping, what did he shoot? What

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did he shoot? Forty seven percent? Okay, Cunningham's at forty five.

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What's what's Haliburton's three point shooting?
Thirty six percent? So a hair better,

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slightly better cutting Ham's at thirty five
and a half percent. All right.

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I think that's a great example.
I'm glad you brought that up.

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It's an excellent example. I like
Jylen Brown a lot, all right.

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Jylen Brown averaged twenty three points per
game. Jylen Brown averaged three and a

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half assists per game. Okay,
remember seven and a half for Caid Cunningham,

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three and a half for Jalen Brown. Both averaged twenty three points per

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game. Both average well, Brown
a little bit better on the glass,

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but look, I'm a point guard. He's a small forward. There's a

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little difference there, but you would
expect that. And he's a better shooter,

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but not three point shooter. They're
the same three point shooting percentage.

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Brown's better from two point range.
Again, a little different, but Brown's

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listed as a small forward. He's
also sixty six. Kate Cunningham's listed as

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a point guard. He's six to
six, so a little bit more with

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the ball in his hands, I
suppose if you're Kate Cunningham. But he

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can be our point. Trent him
my point. I believe he can be

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a star for this team. There's
I think there's too many people right now

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who cover this team on a regular
base and say say he's a star right

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now. He's not look at it
from a global scope, look at it

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from a national scope. Do people
in the NBA, be honest, Do

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they consider Kid Cunningham a star?
He's not looking at that way. Don't

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get I don't believe, not yet
that doesn't mean he can't be, but

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I don't think he is. And
a lot of that has had to do

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with the Piston's lack of success.
They've been the worst team in the league

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three years in a row. So
absolutely absolutely. I mean, look,

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the stars, folks are guys like
Joel Embiid. Jalen Brunson has just pushed

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himself into that, Damian Lillard,
Shay Gilgess, Alexander Anthony Edwards, Anthony

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Edwards, Luka, Doncicic, right, and a lot of these guys are

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ours, right, Devin Booker is
a star, right, Jason Tatum a

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star, not that he's a guard, Kyrie Irving. The star is.

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There are certain guys like I like. I like Pascal Siakam, he's a

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really good player. I like Jamal
Murray, really good player. I don't

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know if those guys are stars maybe
in their markets, but I'm talking about

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from the NBA. How do they
look at them. Franz Wagner is a

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really good player, it's not a
star, so I think he can be.

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What do you think, Paul Bunkaro? Do you think he's a star?

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No? Probably is, Yeah,
I don't know. I think he's

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on a trajectory. Yeah, twenty
seven a game. I think he's pretty

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damn close to it. Twenty seven
in the postseason, for yeah, that's

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that's correct, that's pretty good.
And that's another level of this that we

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haven't seen with Kate yet. Get
to the postseason. How do you perform

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there? That says a lot.
Absolutely. Now, in fairness to those

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who may argue for Kate Cunningham,
he did finish twenty first in the league

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and scoring a year ago more than
bon Carrow as much as Paul George.

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That's pretty damn good. You'll take
that. A guy I just mentioned Siakam

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Cunningham's averaging more than he is and
he's taking more shots. But you understand

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my point. I think he has
that capability. That's what I like about

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the signing. It's not one of
those well, he's the only guy we

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got, We're not gonna get anybody
else. Let's do it. He's kind

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of forcing our hand. No,
no, no, you don't do this

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unless you think this guy can be
or if he's not already a star.

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Now the Pistons may say he is, the rest of the National Basketball Association

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I think is still waiting, and
that's Okay, I believe he has that

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ability. He has the ability to
be a star, more so than probably

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any Tiger. Although I'm still strong
believer in Riley Green's ability, I think

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he can be and the way cole
Keith has recently hit. Not a big

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fan of his fielding, but the
way he has recently shown how he can

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hit, you should be happy about
this. I said this when he was

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struggling at the very beginning of the
year, while people said send him down,

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I said, I firmly believe this
dude will be a hitter, and

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he has been and he will continue
to be. When all is said and

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done, by the end of this
year, cole Keith will be one of

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the top three hitters on this team. So I think you're gonna like that.

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I don't know if he's going to
be a star. I don't necessarily

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see that because I think in order
to be a star, you gotta be

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able to do a little bit of
both. I think Green can do that.

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But with the signing of Kaid Cunningham, that is absolutely in the cards.

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So that's good for them. And
it's interesting because I think I kind

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of look at kid Cunningham. Tell
me if this is a good or a

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bad example in your mind? Dylan
Larkin. Like, Dylan Larkin's viewed as

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a number one center in Detroit,
and rightfully so. Is he a star

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around the National Hockey League? No, No, he's well respected. He's

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well respected. Speaking of stars in
Pittsburgh, they think Paul Skeins is a

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star. And you know what,
for a guy just making his impact,

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he is. But somebody has suggested
something about Paul Skeins that I think is

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he deserves a certain recognition that I
think is way off base. Sports Illustrated

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has said something about this young Pittsburgh
phenom when another man deserves to own the

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