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This is I on the Ball with
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Welcome to I on the Ball Hero
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera,

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you're jagins Aus. Got our boy
Juan in today. One and done

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for the week. That's right.
I like that. Good look forward at

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the end of the week. You
know what I do look forward to?

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You want, I really do supporting
the Jacob Man New Jersey today, Yes,

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sir, very awesome. Love love
seeing that. Okay, but you

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gotta support us fellow students. You
do, and but you also need to

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go get a conference logo on that, and I do. I saw a

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picture to day they're putting the Big
twelve conference logos on on the jerseys.

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Now, this is a good day. Yeah, you know, we talked

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about this yesterday that you know,
it's like, okay, we're in the

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Pac twelve. I mean, we're
in the Big twelve now, right.

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We can stop talking to him,
except we'll probably talk about it one more

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time. Next week we get roxy
burns, you know. But we're in

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the Big twelve. It's time to
start talking about Big twelve. You know,

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being in the Big twelve conference in
the seasons getting underway. It's gonna

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take some use getting used to.
It is it is, it really is.

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But it's kind of fresh, you
know, I mean it's new,

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it's fresh. Let's see what happens. Okay, right, Oh you're doing

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with their love fest? Here we
are? We are? I do like

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the jersey though, good look okay, no, cool looks good looks good?

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Uh composition? Would you be playing? Hypothetically, I'd be a five

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star water boy, come on,
mantle More. Realistically, I'd probably be

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at three star war Yeah. You
have some wheels kind of fast, A

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little fast, not fast. I
can. I can get downhill, you

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can, you can go up here? Yeah? Yeah, but you know,

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I mean, you're you're, you're
you're you know, you're you're a

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big, solid dude. So you
know, if you got to I've got

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some wheels, you could you know, you could do that. Yeah,

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I probably think I think I would
just have trouble with the coverage. Yeah

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that's about it. Yeah, I
can go out and take some place.

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Yeah. See, when I was
four foot ten and ninety pounds, I

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was fast as hell. There was
no wind resistance or anything, so I

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could I could move. I used
to have a real poofy hair. Uh.

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All my teammates used to joke like, hey, that's wind resistance right

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there. You doing cut it off? Okay, sorry, Steve, that's

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okay. Don't mean to forget about
you. I'll let you. Let you

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guys go Friday. Man, I'm
excited about I'm excited about Friday. Okay,

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going golfing tomorrow? You are one
and ten? No, no,

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I'm I'm wondering if it's even gonna
be light. I have a six eight

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T time. What's morning? Six
o eight? Oh, that's plenty of

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time. It'll only be ninety five. I'll be done by ten o'clock.

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Then I'll probably come home and do
some yard work. Honey, dews bag,

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got to keep people happy. Yep, yep, yep. Yeah,

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okay, cool uh and tuck tang. I'm going to the h what used

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to be the Sean Elliott Burger.
And oh and that's is thatmorrow? At

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think? Okay? Sos and girls
club boys and girls. Because the father

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of the Year things. That's tomorrow
night. I'm going to that. Yeah.

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Yeah, we're busy. We're busy. Two Soldan's. We're all over

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town, Steve, We're all over
town. You can't you can't hide from

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us, no, which is sad
for the community. Sorry, guys,

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if you see us out. I
actually gotta put like a suit on tomorrow

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night because is the burger thing is
probably relatively cash. Yeah, I got

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because it's it's for kids. You
know, you've been there a few times.

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We get the burgers and they get
the stakes or whatever. I think

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that is the case. Kids don't
want stakes. They want if I you

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know, if I if I went, I would trade. Yeah, And

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that's what they do. That's like
at lunch, you know in junior high.

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You got you got Peter butter,
Joe, I got liver. I'll

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trade you exactly. What's what's liver? Yeah, no kidding, Okay,

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so cool. Hey, welcome to
the show Today Thursday, Friday. Ready,

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Friday, we have the bill Mont
tomorrow. We're gonna have some of

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that today and then we have I
think I've met your guy, Jerry Gostellum.

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Yeah, I know, because I've
seen him. I saw his picture

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that side. I know him because
he's everywhere or was. Now what's his

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situation. Well, we've been talking
about, you know, these kinds of

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people that you know are in the
Pema County Sports Hall of Fame. Jerry

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Gostellem one of them. Just guys
who have been involved in sports in this

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community in a lot of ways for
a long time. You know, Jerry's

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been He's been a high school coach, probably coached some little league somewhere along

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the line. He's been. He's
been an umpire, a referee. Was

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it was a packed Pac ten Pac
twelve ref I think he still does.

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I think he's still like or was
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the video video replay guy at the
stadium. I think they do it

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now centrally, but you know,
he did that for a while. So

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I don't know what he what he
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he's still umpires and ref's high school
sports locally. But you know, I

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had a long career doing that,
you know, sort of in the Chris

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rass Stadder range, except he was
football when it came to the conference and

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so you know, had a long
career doing that, but just kind of

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again, all over the place.
As you said, if he If you

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don't think you know Jadia Gastelle,
you probably do. You've met him,

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You've seen him, right. If
your kids have played any sports in this

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town at any level, little league, high school, middle school, or

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whatever, you've probably run into Jerry. I think one time I ran he

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was doing volleyball, you know,
at a at a one of my daughter's

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volleyball matches. So just a guy
who loves doing that. We'll find out

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why, because it's a thankless job, for sure. Yeah, no questions.

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Good due too, Yeah, really
good due, you said. I

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don't know if I've had a longish
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, So
we should have some fun with him.

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Yeah, he's a crack up.
We should have fun. He's in

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he's actually in Houston today. I
had to talk him into coming on the

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show and you know, interrupting whatever
he's doing there to come on the show.

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So he'll be on in the in
the in the at about three twenty.

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Then we'll spend about fifteen minutes.
So I'm just talking about the stuff

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he's doing. Yeah, okay,
cool, it'll be a lot of fun.

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Uh, so hey, how about
them Celtics, About them Celtics yacht

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see like I said last night,
man, well like I did it two

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books. Yeah, I I won't. No, I won, h I

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bet ten bucks. It was a
two teamer. I tease the point spreads.

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I think I won twenty four dollars. But you we went down on

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that way. Yeah, I teased
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And then I had the under.
Oh the under okay, yeah, yeah,

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that could have been. It didn't
jumpre He didn't look good at halftime.

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It didn't well, I should say
that it didn't look good like about

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the middle of the second quarter,
because I thought the Celtics were going to

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get get to the number by themselves. It was they were just and you

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know, they they had fifty points
like early in the second quarter, and

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I thought they're gonna they're even get
They're gonna get to two hundred. But

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then it just kind of slowed down
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nice little two teamer, just again, just just for the Jews. I'm

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not winning a bunch of money on
these things, but I'm just having fun.

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Juice is gonna kill you, Well, that's what it hasn't so far.

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I've got a little juice on the
Yankees Dodger game. You know,

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the the Yankees and the Dodgers of
the two teams UH picked to you know,

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buy the oddsmakers to get to the
World Series. Dodgers are a plus

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three hundred. Uh. The Yankees
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Series. And then it's the Phillies
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that. But they got a three
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today. Juan Soto is out,
but it's not a what happened to He's

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not a serious it's a it's a
it's a it's a something strange. I

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don't know what it is. He's
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that. Very well. Yeah,
oh yeah, and I uh, you

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know, I ran into Chris in
the in the hallway and we were poking

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at each other about that. Sorry
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but I told him that, you
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and he told me one SODA's you
know, not playing. I said,

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it's because he's on my fantasy team. He's Dusty together us as we get

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hurt, but should be a fun
series. First game is for four or

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five tonight they're on the Apple TV
app and then they're on Fox tomorrow and

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then ESPN on Sunday. Not not
that I've been paying attention to that.

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We are your official Dodger station unofficially. Hey man, Mookie Bets trying to

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get out of his slump. He
was. It was one for twenty six

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going into the game yesterday went two
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So if he's if he's out,
the Yankees are big Dodger, said Cardinal.

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That's right, Cardinal. Good.
So this conversations boring you too.

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We've got a lot of Dodger fans
good to know. Well, a lot

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of things going on. Uh In, No, not really. Brennan has

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his camp or he's finishing up a
camp. Yeah, he's got a he's

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got a string of camp camps.
I know that Tommy Lloyd has had his

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camps too, but he's not down
right, he's out out coaching. Uh

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So a lot of things locally,
stay out of the heat, kind of

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maybe do some things. Yeah,
you're going golfing, which is great?

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Is he and what else? In
Hills? Just bet tomorrow? Yeah,

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he hit a little something tomorrow.
It's gonna be chalky choky tomorrow, chalky,

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chalky, very chalky tomorrow. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know whether

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to believe you or not. No, No, I'm sure that she'll say

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the same thing, chalky tomorrow.
And and Bob Baffort doesn't he doesn't have

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a horse. They're not running the
horse that should have won the Preakness,

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So you know, because of the
distance, it's a long distance. Yeah.

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And Saratoga at Saratoga what now,
because they're refurbishing Billmont. Okay,

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Yeah, they did a lot to
Churchill downs this year and they're gonna so

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now they're doing the same thing.
Too old, because these places are old.

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They are like old old. Yeah. Church is what like one hundred

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and fifty years old? Yeah,
yeah, yeah, I get it.

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So they went through a lot of
changes last year and they looked very different.

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But the Saratoga track isn't as long
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gonna have to like run laps or
what are they doing. It's the same

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distance, just just they're going to
run the mile in half. But if

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the track's not as big, then
they just go start start way in the

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back. Ye, Yeah, it's
gonna be fun. Should be fun.

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But shierral Lean is gonna probably kill
you think, so, yeah, right,

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it's gonna be chalky, Okay,
cool? Uh what else anything else?

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No, you know, just you
been paying attention to stuff. You

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know more Dan Hurley, Dan Hurley
suspense, you know I did this.

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This is kind of it's almost like
this could be the most watched coaching higher

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in the history of sports. So
it's just because people are listening to their

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minds, you know. Mike Greenberg
Greenee on ESPN goes on and says,

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if Dan Hurley goes to the Lakers, this is the end of college sports.

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As we know what you said that. That'sn't exactly what why did he

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say? What was his backing for
that? Just that you know you got

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these you know, you got Harbaugh, you know, won anstal championship.

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Left you got you know, then
if Hurley leaves, you won anastional championship,

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like these guys have left for the
pros. Of course forever Saban left,

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Yeah, Platino left. I mean, it's not ending anything, you

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know it. Anytime those guys have
left. Guess what everything went on?

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Is it changing? Yes? Do
you listen to these people to get pissed

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off or to get they can't help
but see it. You know, well,

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well, the reason the reason I
I, you know, I'm a

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little more afired of about it is
because then, you know, Mike de

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Corsi, you know who's been on
our show a number of times, wrote

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a column. They're basically telling Greenee
in a nice way, you're a dumb

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ass. Yeah, because it is, because that's a stupid thing to say.

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Yeah. In fact, in fact, we talk about this all the

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time, Jay, or maybe not
all the time. Sometimes the people who

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love Arizona love Arizona for what reasons? The players? The players? Yeah,

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no, no, it's the universe, w Right, the red and

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blue and the winds and the you
know guess why, because the players come

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in they rot and come on right, come on? Do you even remember

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who the Jeter was? Jeter Jeter, the big dog from the Duke.

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What's the first thing I don't remember
it? Chase Chase Jeter. Okay,

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do you remember hearing Barcel? These
guys remember that he you know what I

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remember about him? You can think
his pants, that was stupid, the

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way he touched his shorts. And
I'm like, what are you doing?

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But my point is these guys are
conve Yeah, they come and go,

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and coaches do too. And yes, coaches, it's like when Seana left,

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Oh, who are you gonna get? How could this happen? We're

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gonna You'll be fine. I mean, the implication that a coach leaving makes

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is he's bigger than the whole sport
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twenty some years ago, Chizwsky almost
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and guess what we survived and he
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so what lo what ha said?
Maybe I have a good chance to win

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it? Now now I get it
to say that things. You know,

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you know these some of these coaches
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athletic. Sure, but it's not
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gonna be different? Of course it's
gonna. Well, this is probably a

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guy who doesn't doesn't live the college
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know, he's in the pro world. He cares about the Jets, he

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cares about, you know, the
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talks about the pros. You know, you're sitting here in twoson Arizona,

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and Dan Hurley goes to the Lakers. You go, okay, just don't

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take Tommy Lloyd as your coach,
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me load go to Yukon. That's
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are saying, Okay, we're gonna
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another guy? Go get another guy? Right? Probably just as good,

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if not, maybe not better,
but just as good. I'm saying it

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was just an overreaction that we always
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situations like that. Sure, I
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guys are gonna be leaving because of
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it's not gonna end thing though it's
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college sports are just gonna be different, and we've got to come to grips

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with that. You ever miss a
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Yes? Did you catch the next
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Okay. Yeah, this was not
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on My Sugar. Buffy and Jody, which show was that show Buffy's Family

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Affair? Family Affair where they got
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Mexico. Do you remember that episode. Well, you missed a bus.

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Guess what, there's another one that
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well, I wasn't driving yet because
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You were old enough to like not
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not like yeah, I said,
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and catch the next bus. I
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trends. I have been on a
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they they? You scare me?
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trends. Yeah. I used to
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to get somewhere. Yeah, but
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We're gonna take with Jerry first.
Yep, Jerry's coming up. He's

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uh texted me he's ready to go, and uh we'll get him on cool

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Wying the Ball here in Fox Sports
fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. He's

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Jaconsaus. Now on the phone,
we have Jerry Castellum. Then you're one

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of the newest members from the Pima
County Sports Hall of Fame. How are

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you, Jerry. I'm doing fine. I'm in Houston. What are you

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doing in Houston? Visiting my son
family? And I grank it. Say

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hello to our boy Francisco Romero for
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try not to talk to him because
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the Okay, So, Jerry,
congratulations on the award. Very cool,

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very well deserved. You know,
we've been talking to some of the you

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know, people going into the Hall
of Fame, just talking about you know,

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some of those people who you know, maybe you aren't a Major League

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baseball player or an NFL player,
but you were just involved in sports,

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you know, in this community for
a really long time, doing a lot

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of different things, and you know, consider you one of those guys.

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But for just first, what did
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you know what it means a lot
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there and uh, I have a
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I just I'm overwhelmed. I should
say, yeah, it must be must

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be fun. I'll ask you some
questions about athletes that you've seen throughout the

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years. I'll ask you now,
so you've had the previous the previy,

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I've seen some great athletes throughout the
years. Anyone the strike strike you that

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think, Wow, I'm watching the
game when this guy is playing. Maybe

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like the Rodney Peach that you talked
about. Yeah, Rodney Peach. Uh

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Sean Elliott. I mean he was
a student of mine at Choya. Yeah,

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I saw him as a freshman and
uh and then he went on to

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play the NBA and stuff, and
it was it was a great In fact,

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he was for the first couple of
years until his sophomore year, he

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played baseball oh wow, okay,
then he can he completely quit and he've

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been focused on basketball. But he
was a good baseball player too. Well.

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He knew he was a soccer player, right because that's where he blew

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out his knee. So kind of
a three sport athletes, which you know,

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people don't seem to recognize. We
mentioned Rodney Pete. You know,

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he was a you know, a
really good baseball player, played basketball and

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you know wound up you know in
the NFL and football. When you see

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a kid, a kid like that
at that age, do you do you

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know, do you know right away
this one's special? No, you don't

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really did, Okay, you know
until he played basketball in his junior year,

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then I knew he was special.
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first memories of sports? If you
can recall maybe as a kid playing Little

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lea for my dad, Yeah,
my dad was coaching. We played.

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I played when I was nine ten
eleven years old. I played for Porters

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Tucson and they were when that was
part of the American League and we used

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to play at Government Heights that was
our baseball field. And then I remember

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playing Junior Indian baseball. I don't
know if you guys remember that we played

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at We played at Terry Field and
that was our place. Lout Farber was

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my umpire, our umpire, and
there was oh god, I can't tell

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you. There was just so many
memories of when I was a kid,

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you know, little, my first
strikeout and when I cried to my dad,

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I struck out and when I couldn't, I couldn't throw strikes and I

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was seen, of course, and
I was crying. There was a lot

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of tears. That's where'd you go
to high school? You went to Pueblo,

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Okay, So a lot of history
there as well. And I know

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a lot of you guys, my
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know each other from all those times
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were playing high school sports, what
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that stuck in your mind that led
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in sports and whatever way you could. My coaches, yeah, uh lets

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Neil was my freshman and sophomore coach, and then Jim Estrada was my varsity

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coach. Arda Costa. Those those
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that that they gave me an insight
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you know. And during the time, and you know what, during the

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time when I was at Pueblo,
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Eddie he had helped but he throw. We'd go to Pueblo Field and have

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batt in practice and uh and if
you remember Eddie Southard in him too.

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So there's a lot of people that
helped me through my baseball career that there

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were an influence on me. I
wanted to be just like them, you

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know. I wanted to be like
Eddie John you know, and being a

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good failder and good hitter. And
so let me ask you, so,

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at what point in your life or
maybe career, because apparently and I didn't

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notice that you're an instructor or a
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with your sports career. When I
when I graduated from NAU, I was

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coaching volunteer coaching at Pueblo. I
did football, and then I volunteered with

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my brother Richard, who was a
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And uh, that continued that helped
me continue to be And then when

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I was coaching, I said,
you know what, I've got to do

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something else to make some money because
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get into officiating. Yep, and
uh, there we go. I went

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from there, and I was a
decent official, and I had fun,

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and I'm playing. I officiated baseball
the first year, and wrestling because I

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was a wrestler in high school.
Okay, would you believe it? One

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hundred and three pounds? We all
have. We were there. We all

406
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were there at one point. And
then uh, and then baseball, of

407
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course, and I had I had
a fun career in baseball. So so,

408
00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:44.799
okay, the first game you ever
umpired even as a you know,

409
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did you like as a kid on
fired little league games or anything like that,

410
00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:52.319
or was it once you started doing
some high school baseball? No,

411
00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:56.920
when I was in the summertime,
when i'd come back from any of you

412
00:26:57.440 --> 00:27:03.359
remember, hired me for the county
to do softball. So I was doing

413
00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:07.440
softball at I can't remember the name
of the park. It's way out there

414
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at the end, Prince and Country
Club or something like that. You know,

415
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I can't remember the name of it, but I remember some of the

416
00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:21.920
players that that played. Was one
of them was glorious, you know,

417
00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:23.680
she was a good softball player,
Tina Rios. I mean, there were

418
00:27:23.720 --> 00:27:29.400
some good softball players back that I
was umpiring, and I enjoyed, and

419
00:27:29.440 --> 00:27:32.680
that's what got me started. But
then at some point you took it seriously

420
00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:36.039
enough to become like, you know, a high school umpire eventually getting into

421
00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:38.680
college. And I guess you know, my brother Jean just texted me a

422
00:27:38.680 --> 00:27:41.160
little bit and said, you actually
did some games in the NFL during a

423
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during a strike. But but first
talking about I got to do a couple

424
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of games, and I went to
Denver and I went to Dallas. We'll

425
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:52.279
talk about it at what point because
you're you know a lot of guys umpire,

426
00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:56.680
you know high schools, right,
and in fact there's usually not enough,

427
00:27:56.680 --> 00:27:59.799
but you know, people empire,
men and women umpire, you know,

428
00:27:59.839 --> 00:28:03.759
high school sports, basketball, volleyball, baseball, football, whatever.

429
00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:07.920
But it doesn't they don't go to
that next step. When did the next

430
00:28:07.960 --> 00:28:11.920
step of doing like college become a
reality for you or something that you thought,

431
00:28:12.000 --> 00:28:17.440
I can do that and how did
that happen? Well, I was

432
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:22.920
becoming a high school football official.
I got involved, or I got surrounded

433
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:29.519
by good people. Jim Vogeltans Marty
Herman, Bob Beal, Bob Row.

434
00:28:30.839 --> 00:28:34.039
Those people like that got me going. I I was a young kid,

435
00:28:34.759 --> 00:28:38.079
you know, I was, I
was, I was. I was on

436
00:28:40.240 --> 00:28:41.720
JV and freshman crew, and I
said, you know what I can I

437
00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:45.200
can go on and be a referee. And I saw see those guys at

438
00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:49.119
football games warming up, you know, and they in the end zone throwing

439
00:28:49.160 --> 00:28:52.200
the football at each other playing catch. I said, you know what,

440
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:53.759
I want to be like that.
So what was it going to take.

441
00:28:55.359 --> 00:29:00.200
I got involved with good people and
I listened to them and they should the

442
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:04.200
ropes. Was it a fun job? Oh yeah, I enjoyed. You

443
00:29:04.200 --> 00:29:08.079
gotta enjoy it. I mean,
it's a officiating You've got to have fun

444
00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:11.119
at it. You got to enjoy
it. Otherwise you would be You'll be

445
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:18.000
miserable because the uh fans yell at
you. Yeah. Yeah, that's why.

446
00:29:18.240 --> 00:29:22.559
Yeah, you gotta You've got to
learn to put that out of your

447
00:29:22.599 --> 00:29:25.279
mind and say, you know what, I'm enjoying the game. These kids

448
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:30.400
deserve to get the right call and
get it done right. So did you

449
00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:37.160
have many friends growing up? Uh? Yeah, I had my wife and

450
00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:41.920
I love her so that it was
great. Did your kid did your kids

451
00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:45.240
yell at you for like bad calls
or anything like you said, Dad,

452
00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:48.319
you missed that call in that game
or anything like that. No, they

453
00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:52.119
didn't. They knew better than to
do that. What Let me say,

454
00:29:52.240 --> 00:29:57.559
how about the wife? She would
say, doesn't you feel bad because he'd

455
00:29:57.640 --> 00:30:03.559
called that kid out? Nobody said, you say, the car you drive

456
00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:07.799
hunt, that's for That's what I'm
doing right, That's what's paying the bills.

457
00:30:07.759 --> 00:30:11.720
So you were in that, you
were in, you were back then,

458
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:12.640
they were paying the bills. I
was just putting the gap in the

459
00:30:12.680 --> 00:30:15.359
car. So you you were in
the you know, you were doing college

460
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:18.599
for a long time. I know
you did the PAC twelve, but or

461
00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:21.160
Pack ten? I guess it was. Did you do other leagues too?

462
00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:26.039
Or was it just just the Pack
ten? Before? Well, junior college?

463
00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:29.200
I did here in here in Arizona, the A C C A C.

464
00:30:29.480 --> 00:30:33.839
And then I did the league Rocky
Mountain League. I did some games

465
00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.839
in New Western New Mexico. So
that's what got me going. That's what

466
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:45.720
got me into the into the pack. I was able to get spotted.

467
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:52.359
I should I say, I kind
of what's the word I'm looking for somebody

468
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:56.920
anyway, somebody saw me, and
I wrote my letters, did what I

469
00:30:56.920 --> 00:31:02.039
had to do, and I got
a chance to to work and gurl Sorgan

470
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:06.680
came to choose on and interviewed me
and so and then I got into the

471
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:10.799
pack and it went from there.
This is a dumb question, but I'm

472
00:31:10.839 --> 00:31:14.960
assuming you would do it all over
again. Oh yeah, would you do

473
00:31:14.960 --> 00:31:18.480
anything? Would you do anything differently
in terms of how you approached it?

474
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:25.599
Is there like a formula to do
this? Trying to think of that there's

475
00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:30.039
a formula, you know. I
I think I would work a little harder,

476
00:31:32.039 --> 00:31:36.119
spend more time with my family so
that I spend a lot of time

477
00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:41.119
officiating that it took me away from
from family, took me away from my

478
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:45.039
kids, It took me away from
my wife and just and I think if

479
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:48.960
I would I have taken more time
with my family, I think I would

480
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:55.079
have had more fun officiating. Is
there are there games or a game or

481
00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:59.160
a venue maybe, or a coach
or somebody that sticks out from your time?

482
00:31:59.519 --> 00:32:01.519
You know, when you're doing major
college major college football, you know

483
00:32:01.960 --> 00:32:06.559
a game that you worked that was
just like unbelievable that you find yourself on

484
00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:12.559
the field going I can't believe I'm
here. There was a couple of them,

485
00:32:12.680 --> 00:32:15.960
but the one I enjoyed the most. And then I'll get to the

486
00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:21.279
one that I couldn't believe where I
was at was I went to Notre Dame.

487
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:25.279
I had the Notre Dame Washington game
when Brock Heward was a freshman quarterback.

488
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:30.559
Wow. Okay. And so when
I see when I see Heward at

489
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:35.839
the announcing games at fu of A, I remember, I remember those games

490
00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:37.720
when that day that he played,
and when my wife went with me,

491
00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:40.559
my neck, my aunt went with
me to Notre Dame. It was just

492
00:32:40.640 --> 00:32:45.799
it was a great place to be. Yeah, very cool. And then

493
00:32:45.440 --> 00:32:49.759
the game I couldn't I can't believe
I was at was I had the Apple

494
00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:54.960
Cup Washington Washington State, and there
was I mean, we were down to

495
00:32:55.000 --> 00:32:58.720
the nitty gritty, it was.
It was close, and I said,

496
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:02.359
I can't believe that I'm I have
there's a play that could I could determine

497
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:07.160
that the winner of this game,
and it's gonna be worth a million dollars

498
00:33:07.240 --> 00:33:09.839
to some of these kids, you
know, right. I think that that's

499
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:14.839
that was the fun part. I
think just knowing that every call that you

500
00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:17.759
make is work is going to be
somebody's livelihood. But no, well,

501
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:22.279
congratulations on this because it's a it's
a big deal. Well, I I

502
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:28.920
I'm trying to I'm trying to get
that in now. I'm still still can't

503
00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:32.559
believe it. Yeah, still can't
believe it because there's being from Tucson and

504
00:33:32.559 --> 00:33:36.519
stuff. It is just pint and
race right. Well, yeah, and

505
00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:38.400
again, you know, just one
of those guys that you know, everybody

506
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:42.440
knows around in sports, and your
your family too, you know, your

507
00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:45.440
brothers. You know, it's just
there's just a group. And I,

508
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:47.440
you know, I was I think
I'm a bit younger than you because I

509
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:51.759
think you're closer to my brother's age. But you know, I remember growing

510
00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:54.119
up and seeing you guys playing in
you know, the city league baseball game,

511
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:58.920
you know, on city league baseball
teams, watching you guys play baseball

512
00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:00.240
in high school and stuff like that. And I didn't know you at the

513
00:34:00.319 --> 00:34:04.119
time, but over time you've gotten
to know each other. And I remember,

514
00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:06.480
you know, you hung around with
all the guys that you know,

515
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:08.360
my brothers hung around with and played
baseball with, and all that is just

516
00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:13.559
right. If you've grown up here, everybody knows everybody. Yes, that's

517
00:34:13.599 --> 00:34:15.800
true. You know it's true.
That was before you came on. I

518
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:17.719
was saying, well, yeah,
yeah, Jerry, I've seen him all

519
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:22.440
over the place. So do you
get this because of your past? You're

520
00:34:22.440 --> 00:34:24.119
at the grocery store and says I
know you from somewhere. I know you

521
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:27.360
from somewhere, but I don't know
what. Do you get that a lot?

522
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:30.639
Or did you? Well? I
get that from some of my former

523
00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:35.679
students, junior high students. They
said, remember me, mister, And

524
00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:37.679
I said, God, they tell
me, mister, still, this is

525
00:34:38.119 --> 00:34:40.800
forty years ago, you know,
and they still remember. So that was

526
00:34:40.880 --> 00:34:44.679
that. Those are fun times.
Remember the time you didn't pass me because

527
00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:47.840
I was a cranky guy. Hey
are you are you still doing? Are

528
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:53.360
you still umpire and refing in Tucson? Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah.

529
00:34:53.440 --> 00:34:57.960
They asked me that. And do
you remember me, sir? Remember

530
00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:02.119
me? I played baseball at Sunnyside? Yeah? What I could, But

531
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:06.119
I don't remember you. I don't
remem I don't remember names. I remember

532
00:35:06.119 --> 00:35:10.159
faith. Okay, what can you
still do? Refing? Umpiring wise?

533
00:35:10.199 --> 00:35:13.880
Because we know, you know,
you're getting along like the like the rest

534
00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:15.679
of us are. What what can
you still do. What do you still

535
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:21.480
enjoy doing? Okay, I still
do high school football, okay, wow,

536
00:35:21.639 --> 00:35:24.679
okay, a referee, so I
really don't have to run a lot.

537
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:30.119
I just have to follow players where
the wings got to be ahead of

538
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:34.519
them, and so on and so
forth. But I do a lot of

539
00:35:34.760 --> 00:35:38.360
middle school. You know, there's
always room for anybody that wants to become

540
00:35:38.360 --> 00:35:42.880
an official. There's plenty of middle
school to be done. Middle school is

541
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:46.920
always looking for officials, And in
fact, I scheduled some of the officials.

542
00:35:46.920 --> 00:35:53.639
I work in the Northwest, which
is anti school district uh Helleen,

543
00:35:53.679 --> 00:36:00.280
the Foothills Marana. You know,
those those school districts need officials and there's

544
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:04.079
always a chance for them to start
working. We'd be happy to train you.

545
00:36:04.079 --> 00:36:07.199
You know, I was gonna say
that I do basketball, so okay,

546
00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:10.679
wow, okay, I don't know
that I could run up and down

547
00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:15.679
a basketball court, even even in
middle school middle school games you have half

548
00:36:15.719 --> 00:36:22.159
court. Yeah, yeah, that's
still a lot, Jared, that's still

549
00:36:22.159 --> 00:36:24.599
a lot. Well, thank you, Jerry, Hey, Jerry, thanks

550
00:36:24.599 --> 00:36:29.440
a bunch of again. Congratulations on
the award. You know, just again

551
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:32.880
one of those guys who's everybody if
you don't know. It's because you don't

552
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:37.280
know. We all know you.
So we appreciate all the stuff you've done

553
00:36:37.280 --> 00:36:40.039
here, and thanks for coming on. I appreciate it, all right.

554
00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:45.360
Take care, Joy Houston, Joey
Houston. I can't even imagine how hot

555
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:50.719
it is in Houston. Now,
get escalated quickly here. I went out

556
00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:53.039
and took the garbage cans in today
and it was like, dang hot.

557
00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:58.760
But it's a druy heat. Yeah
you're not Yeah, you're not dry when

558
00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:00.960
you get back out of the heat, that for sure. All right.

559
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:05.840
Thanks to Jerry Gastalan for joining us
today. If you missed it, you

560
00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:07.360
can catch it on the podcast when
you post it tonight. So'll be sure

561
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:10.000
to give a listen to Jerry.
He's just one of the great guys around.

562
00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:13.159
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592
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fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome back
to I on the Ball here on Fox

593
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Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve,
He's Jay. Got one with us.

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We got thirteen minutes. Would you'd
like to call five to zero four one

595
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six seventy four forty nice to talk
about. Did you don't know him right?

596
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:42.079
Do you know him? Ja?
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah again.

597
00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:46.519
He He's one of those guys that
I'm just probably I think Jerry's probably

598
00:39:47.559 --> 00:39:52.519
close to seventy easy the late sixties
or early seventies. He grew up.

599
00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:55.000
He was around the age of my
older brothers, right, that whole group

600
00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:59.159
of guys that when I was a
little kid, I would go to their

601
00:39:59.199 --> 00:40:01.039
high school baseball games and stuff like
that, or they played football or whatever,

602
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:05.320
and so they were like that,
you know, older level of guy.

603
00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:07.000
And there's a whole bunch of those
guys that you know he mentioned,

604
00:40:07.639 --> 00:40:09.519
you know, you know some of
the some of the guys that you know

605
00:40:09.559 --> 00:40:13.079
he hung out with, and and
they all knew each other, whether he

606
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:17.639
played at Pueblo, Sunnyside, Tucson
High wherever, you know, they they

607
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:22.519
they ran into each other. They
play in city leagues, whether you know

608
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:25.800
city league basketball, city league baseball. A lot of them would would would

609
00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:29.960
get together and and and play and
they just all knew each other from around

610
00:40:29.960 --> 00:40:31.320
town. Well, let me ask
you, because I obviously didn't grow up

611
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:36.400
here. I got here in the
late eighties. I'm curious. Uh,

612
00:40:36.840 --> 00:40:38.079
back then, it's totally different.
Now that I see photos, it's kind

613
00:40:38.079 --> 00:40:42.159
of totally different than it is now, right right, obviously, But how

614
00:40:42.360 --> 00:40:45.480
was it? How was it?
And I know you played a little sports

615
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:50.840
you can't play as you got older. How was the the rivalries in sports?

616
00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:54.159
Because now everybody plays travel ball with
each other their friends or around friends.

617
00:40:54.239 --> 00:40:57.400
But when they played each other,
they really hate each other. The

618
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:01.679
rivalries were real and how but this
school it was like a because fewer schools.

619
00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:05.400
Okay, yeah, so around that
time, let's say when I was

620
00:41:05.440 --> 00:41:08.719
in elementary school. But when these
guys in the in the late sixties,

621
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:12.880
early seventies, or when my brothers
were in high school, you know,

622
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:15.400
the the you know, the schools
were I can't even name all the high

623
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:20.480
schools. You know, you had
Tucson High, amphisal Point, Sunnyside,

624
00:41:20.559 --> 00:41:30.599
Pueblo, Catalina, ringcon Ceo,
Floying Wells, and then Sowarro opened in

625
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:36.000
nineteen sixty nine, Sabino opened,
several Sabino opened when I was getting to

626
00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:37.639
high school. So to talk about
the time, you know, at that

627
00:41:37.760 --> 00:41:40.400
age for me, late sixties,
every seven, those were the high schools.

628
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:45.440
Now there was. You know,
there was no Gallas Douglas. Uh

629
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:47.719
you know that you would occasionally play. So those were all the schools,

630
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:52.840
you know. Santa Rita wasn't around
yet. Sabino, No, none of

631
00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:54.280
tho schools were around here. Dad
tell me, like the goodle tell me

632
00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:57.800
what the good old days were like. But those rivalries were real. And

633
00:41:57.840 --> 00:42:02.039
those rivalries started in junior high because
there was junior high tackle football at all

634
00:42:02.039 --> 00:42:07.480
the schools at all the at all
the now Sunnyside had one one junior high

635
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:10.800
was Sunnyside Junior High. And then
when I was getting ready to go into

636
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:15.360
into middle school or junior high,
Apollo opened up. But Sunnyside had one

637
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:19.840
one one high school, and and
the and the junior high school and the

638
00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:24.360
junior high school very freely the famous
for was the was the was the football

639
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:28.559
coach at Sunnyside Junior High. My
brothers played for him, you know.

640
00:42:28.679 --> 00:42:34.639
And that's so that's we're talking.
I'm talking about Howard Brining. Howard Brining

641
00:42:34.760 --> 00:42:38.199
uh uh and and uh and and
freely were the coaches at Sunnyside. My

642
00:42:38.280 --> 00:42:44.559
brothers played for those guys, so
everybody knew everybody, and the rivalries were

643
00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:49.760
real, but then on the side
they'd be friends. I mean Sunnyside and

644
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:52.039
Tucson High. Tucson High was it
at that time. You know, they

645
00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:57.960
had guys going going to the pros
and stuff like Curly Culp, famous Kansas

646
00:42:57.960 --> 00:43:00.880
City chief, played in the he
went to to On High. You know,

647
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:04.800
guys like that. You know where
they were going to, you know,

648
00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:07.920
big colleges and stuff like that.
Tucson High was it. Yet Sunnyside,

649
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:13.440
who never beat Tucson High in anything, was a big rival and it

650
00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:15.920
wasn't really a rivalry because Tuson I
kicked their asses. Everybody wanted to be

651
00:43:16.000 --> 00:43:20.639
there, but everybody wanted to be
Tucson High. And the Tucson High AMPHI

652
00:43:20.760 --> 00:43:25.239
game every year there would be eight
ten thousand people at the game because Tucson

653
00:43:25.280 --> 00:43:28.880
h I had that stadium that they
have now over there on Sixth Street.

654
00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:31.280
I mean they had a stadium.
It wasn't just a field with bleachers.

655
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:35.920
It's a stadium, right, And
then AMPHI had had a big facility.

656
00:43:36.000 --> 00:43:39.800
That game every year was a big
deal. So the rivalries we were cool,

657
00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:43.679
like now, you know, not
having my sons played obviously, but

658
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:47.159
the rivalries in Northwestern it's not I
don't know how are they today? I

659
00:43:47.199 --> 00:43:51.079
should ask, I should ask a
life. The rivalries to me seemed to

660
00:43:51.119 --> 00:43:54.400
be more limited to those schools within
the same district. Amphi and CEO is

661
00:43:54.440 --> 00:44:00.360
a big rivalry, right, Micah
Mountain and and Sienega big rivalry to the

662
00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:06.079
region's right. Yeah, to the
these were city wide rivalries. You know

663
00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:07.599
that that you know, if a
team beat you, you wanted to beat

664
00:44:07.599 --> 00:44:12.960
their ass the next year, right. And and you know my family,

665
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:16.760
my brothers all went to Sunnyside,
so their huge rivals were Tucson Hai,

666
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:22.000
Uh and uh and uh and Peblo. I mean this is before CHOI open.

667
00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:23.880
If anybody wants to call, please
do five two o four one,

668
00:44:23.920 --> 00:44:27.519
six seventy four forty. Let me
know is and one of us know what

669
00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:30.000
you feel about that because I didn't
experience it growing up. I was I'm

670
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:34.880
a little behind you in terms of
age. But back in my place was

671
00:44:34.880 --> 00:44:37.800
two schools and and pretty much they
hated each other, but we were friends.

672
00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:42.480
Yeah. And I mean you picked
up the Saturday morning newspaper day football

673
00:44:42.519 --> 00:44:44.880
season, you picked up the Saturday
morning newspaper and there was a story on

674
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:49.519
every game, right, there was
a story on every single game, pictures

675
00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:52.440
and box scores and the whole bit. And you know you were excited if

676
00:44:52.440 --> 00:44:54.800
there was a picture and you were
and you know you were in there.

677
00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:59.440
I remember my brother, uh my
cousin was a running back at Sunnyside and

678
00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:02.360
uh my brother was a was alignment
and there's to this days to remember this

679
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:05.639
picture. You know, my cousin's
in the picture, right, you know

680
00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:07.760
the pictures of him running the ball, but my brother's in the background,

681
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:10.679
you know, having made a block
or something. And we cut that out

682
00:45:10.719 --> 00:45:14.559
and we put it up on our
refrigerator. Sure it was a big deal.

683
00:45:15.320 --> 00:45:19.519
Those were those days when you had
a newspaper. Yeah, but yeah,

684
00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:22.440
they you know it was there's it's
it's what you would imagine. I

685
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:28.320
mean, it was what you would
imagine, like Texas football is, like

686
00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:30.760
you know, I mean people went
to the games, you know, all

687
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:34.079
the parents, you know that the
games had the bleachers were full of were

688
00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:37.320
full of fans. When did that
get lost? I'm not really sure.

689
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:39.599
I'm not really sure. Let's take
this call. High are on the air

690
00:45:39.639 --> 00:45:45.440
and I on the ball. My
god, jam, you're gonna have to

691
00:45:45.480 --> 00:45:50.280
turn something off in your background.
We're getting a lot of feedback, much

692
00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:54.199
better. What's up? Yeah,
we can hear you better. Now go

693
00:45:54.199 --> 00:46:01.880
ahead if you allow me. The
woman I was telling you about, they

694
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:09.599
gave me the hard founds. His
father was Joel Favera Joel. Yeah,

695
00:46:09.639 --> 00:46:16.639
he was the coach at at the
Sunnyside. He won a state championship there.

696
00:46:17.800 --> 00:46:23.599
Not at Sunnyside, but somewhere before
that. He was a high school

697
00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:29.519
All American running back at Tucson High
Yep, yep, yep. And he

698
00:46:29.639 --> 00:46:31.519
still holds some scoring records. I
don't know how, but he does.

699
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:35.840
Yeah. No, My brother,
my brother Jean, played for him when

700
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:40.320
he went to coach at Sunnyside.
Okay. And and he is also in

701
00:46:40.519 --> 00:46:46.199
Pat Narcy's PAMA Hall of Fame.
Oh okay, all right, so that

702
00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:51.559
all ties together. So, Jim, did you grow up here too,

703
00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:58.000
No, when did you get I
didn't move here until nineteen eighty three and

704
00:46:58.119 --> 00:47:01.840
old, and I was like seventeen
years old. Okay, Okay. I

705
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:05.840
just wanted to get a gauge of
the rivalries back in the day, you

706
00:47:05.840 --> 00:47:08.000
know, how it all started or
whatever. You know. I heard a

707
00:47:08.000 --> 00:47:13.119
lot about those things just from He
was a great guy. We had a

708
00:47:13.119 --> 00:47:17.079
great relationship. We went to the
we went to the two thousand and one

709
00:47:17.280 --> 00:47:23.639
World Series game, the second one. Spooky Ray Charles is the thing that

710
00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:30.320
Ray Charles and the bombers. It
took both to get everybody out of there.

711
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:35.159
It was funky. That's too funny. That's too funny. That's a

712
00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:38.320
that's a fun I just looked him
up on the Sports Hall of Fame website.

713
00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:43.079
Yeah, my brother played for him
at the for I think his senior

714
00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:45.480
year. Joe Favara took the job
at Sunnyside, if I recall correctly,

715
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:52.119
something like that. He was the
guy and nobody wanted to tackle. Yep,

716
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:57.559
yep, yeah he was. He
was big and strong and thick.

717
00:47:58.400 --> 00:48:02.320
Yeah, and he just yep,
yep, yep. That's that's him.

718
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:05.559
That's him, all right, Jim, thanks a whole much, man,

719
00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:09.519
I appreciate the memory. Thank you. So so you listed off ten eleven.

720
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:14.719
I think there was eleven high schools
back in that day. I'm maavia.

721
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:15.719
If you want to call us let
me know or text me. How

722
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:20.360
many high schools now twenty something?
Oh god, there's a ton of them,

723
00:48:20.440 --> 00:48:22.639
right, I mean, she's there's
like there's there's three or four just

724
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:27.880
in the Vale School district. You've
got I think four high schools in the

725
00:48:27.920 --> 00:48:31.599
Anti school district now with Mountain View, and then there's Marana. A funny

726
00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:36.400
story about Morana Miranda Junior High.
I remember my going to see going to

727
00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:38.920
Miranda Junior High for a football game
that my brother was playing in. And

728
00:48:38.960 --> 00:48:42.480
there was this guy I can't remember
his name. He would my brother would

729
00:48:42.519 --> 00:48:46.400
remember his name. Who The running
joke was that he drove to the game.

730
00:48:49.760 --> 00:48:52.800
Yeah, he was man among boys
and I can't remember his name,

731
00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:55.280
and he was just you know,
and like he played like four years of

732
00:48:55.320 --> 00:49:00.760
junior high football and then like eight
years of high school football. I can't

733
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:04.599
remember his name. Somebody will know, but you know, it was just

734
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:07.360
funny those things like that. You
remember the bad news bearers and the guy

735
00:49:07.400 --> 00:49:09.079
came up rolling in the motorcycle.
Yeah yeah, it was like smoking,

736
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:13.880
yeah and all that. Yes,
yes, absolutely say something along those lines.

737
00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:16.039
But uh, you know they said
he had kids. But anyways,

738
00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:19.880
uh, you know, but and
you knew you got to know those guys,

739
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:22.800
you got to know these players.
I think I got corrected curly Capp

740
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:24.800
I think was from Yuma, but
he played at a s U and he

741
00:49:24.840 --> 00:49:28.920
went. But but Tucson I had
guys like that because I had not heard,

742
00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:31.719
but Tucson I had had had guys
like that, and guys who would

743
00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:36.719
go play at the U of A
Mike, Mike Dawson h and Bill Dawson,

744
00:49:37.559 --> 00:49:38.920
both guys out of you know,
because I think both of those guys

745
00:49:38.920 --> 00:49:44.559
went. Those dudes were I think
it was Mike claim that mild mannered,

746
00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:47.559
very good dudes. Yeah, yeah, but you know, guy guys like

747
00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:51.400
that that that you got to know
those guys, you know, they they

748
00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:55.000
had their stories in the newspaper.
Uh, you know, and and and

749
00:49:55.039 --> 00:49:59.000
you got to you got to read
about those guys. But uh, you

750
00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:01.480
know it was just U, I
don't know, just fascinating that that you

751
00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:05.639
know, the coverage is right now
Yeah, well but yeah, and you

752
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:08.000
know, but you know these guys
now they as as we talked about with

753
00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:13.119
uh who were talking about playing one
sport, These guys play one sport.

754
00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:15.199
Now you don't see yeah, you
don't see him. You don't see them

755
00:50:15.199 --> 00:50:19.480
in football, then the basketball season, then the baseball season, right like

756
00:50:19.519 --> 00:50:22.360
you used to back in those days, Like you know Jerry's talking about.

757
00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:24.679
I didn't even know Sean Ellie played
baseball, right, We knew he played

758
00:50:24.679 --> 00:50:28.199
soccer, but only because we knew
about his knee injury. That that's when

759
00:50:28.199 --> 00:50:31.719
he injured the knee. So Javier
chimes in the biggest rivalries football rival Morano

760
00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:37.360
versus Mountain View, Sabino on Suarrow, Sunnyside and Desert View, and the

761
00:50:37.400 --> 00:50:40.760
last couple of years Ceo and Mike
Mountain because yeah, Mike co mount because

762
00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:44.840
of the former coaches. Right,
all right, but you know, uh,

763
00:50:45.800 --> 00:50:47.320
you have a chance more. Tavier, send me the number of high

764
00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:51.400
schools as well. But back then
the rivalries were about neighborhoods, right.

765
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:54.960
The Sunnyside was a big rival with
Pueblo because they, you know, the

766
00:50:55.519 --> 00:51:00.320
districts butted against each other, and
some of those kids played against each other

767
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:04.599
in little Let's take this real quick, Hi, you're on the air and

768
00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:06.599
line the ball. You got to
be real quick. You only got about

769
00:51:06.639 --> 00:51:08.840
a minute. All it's Richard,
I'll be fast. I've lived here in

770
00:51:08.880 --> 00:51:13.039
eighty six. You know fo oklahol
Ilkahoma has a big, big Okloba fan.

771
00:51:13.119 --> 00:51:15.920
Anyway, talk football, low and
my nephew, Matt, and he

772
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:19.880
decided I'm going out for football for
Ampire and he made the ninth grade team

773
00:51:19.880 --> 00:51:22.440
and then he played for three years
for Burne Freeley. Yeah, and I

774
00:51:22.480 --> 00:51:24.960
went every practice, in every game, and we had Mario Bates and we

775
00:51:25.000 --> 00:51:30.119
were a fantastic and went all the
way to state finals and uh. On

776
00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:32.679
the meantime, there were just a
lot of great games at a great time.

777
00:51:32.840 --> 00:51:37.119
But going to the practices, it
was like right out of nineteen fifty

778
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:43.800
nine almost with a coach free and
Wernikee Yeah, yeah, no, I

779
00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:46.760
mean it was hilarious. It was
the one hundred five degrees out there watching

780
00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:51.519
practice. We loved it. Yeah, very awesome. And Freely a legend

781
00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:55.400
in Tucson. Just just a legend, legend. All right, Richard,

782
00:51:55.480 --> 00:51:59.599
Hey, thanks a bunch, rich
appreciate it. Well, you know,

783
00:51:59.679 --> 00:52:01.639
you know, really, I mean
he was you know, I mean probably

784
00:52:01.880 --> 00:52:05.480
I don't know if you can name
a better high school football coach, you

785
00:52:05.519 --> 00:52:08.599
know, than Vern in Tucson.
Right, yeah, So all right,

786
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:10.920
we're at the top of the hour. We're gonna take our break. We're

787
00:52:10.960 --> 00:52:14.719
gonna come back once loaded it up
with breaking news. There's lots of it,

788
00:52:15.119 --> 00:52:16.760
and we'll and then we'll kick this. We'll kick this around some more

789
00:52:16.800 --> 00:52:20.079
if you guys want to. But
let's go and take our break, and

790
00:52:20.079 --> 00:52:22.000
then we're gonna be talking some horse
racing in the second in the second hour,

791
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:22.719
so stick around