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And a moving, stirring book.
Controversy and concerned Florida Republicans have introduced a

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bill that we could drastically alter the
legal legal landscape for lgbt LGBTQ plus individuals.

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The proposed legislation aims to criminalize what
in terms as lewd or las vicious

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grooming, thrusting it into the realm
of second degree felonies put shool by hefty

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fines and extensive prison sentences. Spearheaded
by Republicans Taylor Yaravoski and Douglas Bankson,

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the bill takes a hardline stance against
any communication received as promoting sexual activity to

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minors. However, critics argue that
the bill's broad language can disapportionately target LGBTQ

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plus content and performances, infringing on
free expression and potentially censoring file discussions.

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With LGBTQ plus advocates bracing for yet
another legislative session marked by potential discrimination,

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the bill's fate remains uncertain and miss
an ongoing bow between Flor's conservative leadership and

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lgbtwo plus right activists. This story
is from the National Review, published on

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Jerry eleven. Okay, Lie,
I got some shit to say, but

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I'm going to pass it over to
you opinions. Yeah, I gotta,

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I gotta take it breather, Okay, go. So so I personally our

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title, and I'm like, hold
on, Like we already knew that grooming

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is not a good thing to do, right, But important is about actually

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protecting anybody. It's about criminalizing groups
of people for existing, so representative Yarkowski

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daili Orkowski decries drag shows specifically,
and and probably even anything seen as remotely

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not straight, as confusing for young
kids, as if children are born knowing

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the rules of heteronormative society. And
and that's always been such a strange concept

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to me, that they assume children
are going to be confused by things like

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this. You know what, I
was just thinking, just because you're confused

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doesn't mean your children are. Kids
are smart, they learn quick. So

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but as you look at the language
of the bill, it seems like just

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acknowledging to a person younger than sixteen
that sex exists about having sex? Why

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would you ever do that? So
this would require abstinence only education in Florida

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schools, which is already the case
in Florida. I looked up states that

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have abstinence only education, and in
Florida is one of the states that stresses

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teaching abstinence, but we all know
that that is not an effective tool for

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preventing pregnancy. You're actually teaching kids
about how to be responsible. Out of

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the ten states with the highest birth
rate among people age fifteen to nineteen who

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can get pregnant, five of those
states either don't require sex education and in

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any way at all, or require
abstinence focused education. Surprising everyone, Florida

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is actually not in that top ten
list. They come in just they come

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in at number twenty three with fifteen
point four berths or sorry, fifteen point

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two berths per one thousand pregnancy capable
teenagers, just under the national average of

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fifty four. Just as a side
note, but I was thinking about this,

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and I remember hearing on an episode
several months ago, and I'm pretty

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sure Cross Examiner you were the one
that said it turn about is fair play,

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and that was our art something he
would saying an article about Florida once

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again, because we cover that a
lot on this show covered last time I

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was on. But there are descriptions
in the Bible of Sex of things that

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would now be considered illegal, for
example, the story of Lot and his

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daughters that would be considered illegal today. And the bill specifies, you know,

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encouraging minors younger than sixteen to engage
in illegal sex act that is felonious.

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So I wonder if any of these, you know, the Christian nationalists,

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you know, lawmakers in Florida,
are going to consider that before they

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really lean in art on this bill. Sorry a cross examiner, what do

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you have to Well, I hadn't
thought of applying it to the Bible,

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but I think you're right. So
there's two issues with this particular thing.

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I'm gonna I'm gonna go to town
a little bit on this. My background

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is in the law, so I've
read the bill. They have changed the

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bill since this article was written.
So that's the first story is somewhere.

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And it only took about eight or
nine days since the bill was introduced.

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Between that time and the amendment that
people realize they really screwed up. But

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let's talk about the bill. It
was introduced because it highlights the ineptitude of

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state legislators. They generally are not
very good at writing laws. They don't

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understand how to create sentences that have
good definitions and good structure and and define

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activity that they want to make illegal
and excludes activity that they want to remain

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legal. And sometimes that's on purpose. They just want to get up and

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say, I introduce this bill that
will get rid of those you know,

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drag queens to their constituents. And
that's true. They introduced it, and

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then after the hubbub dies down,
they go to amendment to make it the

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mendate to make it constitutional. First
the first bill, and this is what

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the highlights. It would make it
a felony for a person to engage in

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the process of preparing or encouraging a
child whatever that means, a process of

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preparing or encouraging a child to engage
in sexual activity, either through overtly overtly

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I shouldn't say overly overtly sexually themed
communication with the child whatever that means,

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or in conduct with or observed by
the child. Right, So, it

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would be a felony for someone to
teach the child what sex was, because

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that would be the process of preparing
a child to engage in sexual activity through

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overtly sexually themed communication. That would
be a felony. I have a book

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here that I have given to my
kids. And on the cover it says

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over two million copies sold. This
is called Where Did I Come From?

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It teaches kids the birds and the
bees in a very good way. Right

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now, there's a clause at the
end that says you can't do this without

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permission of the child's parent or league
art. That's when that's when it becomes

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illegal. If the parent does this, you're okay, So I'm okay to

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give this to my kid. But
it leaves open like what if I didn't

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tell my wife that parent didn't give
permission, so I would be a felon.

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Maybe if I gave this to my
child and didn't tell my wife forgot

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to or more specifically, the school
nurse gives this to somebody or information about

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birth control or anything like that without
telling the parent, it is a Now

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it would be a felony under this
old version. Now the new version they

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changed it, so it's basically criminalizing
that which is already criminal, which is

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you know, again watering it down
to be nothing. Now it has Oh

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and by the way, they didn't
exclude anybody who was under eighteen, So

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if you were sixteen hitting on your
boyfriend or your girlfriend in a communicative way,

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you were a felon now under that
old bill, right, So the

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new bill says a person who is
eighteen years or older who engages a pattern

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of not a process of a change
of that. And then they describe written,

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verbal, electronic communication that demonstrates sexual
condentt or sexual incitement, and they

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refer to all of the Sex Crimes
Acts to get their definitions for the directed

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at a person who's less than sixteen
years of age. They're trying to get

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the seventeens and eighteen year olds from
dating each other. That's okay for the

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purpose of preparing, encouraging, or
enticing such a person to engage in any

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unlawful sexual activity. They added all
of that stuff. So now they're basically

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saying, if you do stuff sexually
to get a kid to participate in unlawful

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sexual activity, that's a crime.
Well, it already was a crime.

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So they introduced a bill that was
targeting drag shows they accidentally would criminalize probably

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their own behavior in educating their kids, or their neighbor's kids, or the

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school that's educating kids, and then
quietly without any press watered it down to

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basically, this is going to be
criminalizing that which was already criminal, which

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is exactly what the GOP constantly rails
about. Why do we have so many

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laws? Why do we have so
many regulations that we don't need all this

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stuff? Exactly? This is a
good example. It is now, it

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is now, but at the time, like when it came out, I'll

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get trying. If I gave this
book to my neighbor's kid, or the

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school nurse gave this book to my
kid in Florida under the original bill without

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my permission, like not like against
my will, but just not telling me,

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forgetting to tell me, or just
having into the library. If if

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the librarian gave it to them,
it would not just be illegal or not

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the civil offense, it would have
been a felony. And these these these

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legislators put these laws out and occasionally
they slipped through because nobody notices, and

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the original language stays in and they
go in because they're inept or they want,

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as we were talking in an earlier
segment with Eli, they want this

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to become a Christian nation. So
uh, yeah, Kelly, you were

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applauding. I didn't mean to take
up so much time, but I was,

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actually I was. It was actually
very self centered. I was plotting

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myself because I was thinking along the
same lines as you were, and I

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thought if I was doing that,
that was pretty smart of me. So

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that is clapping for myself. So, like my whole my notes start out

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with, let's put forth a scenario, and this would have been under the

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old version of the bill. My
sixteen year old granddaughter comes to me for

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advice. She's her mother, My
daughter's on vacation. Grandma lives in a

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different state. She's having trouble urine
eating. It's never experienced anything like it

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before. And after fifteen to twenty
minutes of conversation, I become concerned that,

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you know, she might have an
STD, so I volunteer to drive

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over to our house, pick her
up, take her to the doctor.

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Along the way, I tell her
not to worry about it. Most of

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this, most of these can be
cured easily. Just you should let all

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your sex partners know. Nobody's going
to pass judgment and nobody's going to tell

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you you can't have sex anymore.
Now under that law, I could have

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gone to jail for thirty years.
Yes, you would have been, and

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you would have engaged in the process
of preparing a child something under eighteen to

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engage in sexual activity through overtly sexually
themed communication. You talk to her about

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sex, you're preparing her to have
sex safely, but that they don't say

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safely or anything like that. You
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that's as soon as I saw this
law, I was like, this is

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because this is the thing that they
keep doing this this a lot of these

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uh, these anti woke crusaders.
They make these bills with language that is

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so overly broad, like the Protection
of Child Act that Florida legislator passed in

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May twenty twenty three, you know, and it just the laws can't can't

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be implemented. I'm having a hard
time. Toy boat, toy boat,

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toy boat. Okay, Now that
law was eventually struck down because they they

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make these laws with this overly broad
language that you can't pin down exactly what

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it is that they're supposed to actually
be legislating about. You know, absolutely

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right that. Yeah, that's something
I was going to bring up when you

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mentioned that, is the first bill
would have been unconstitutional due to vagueness,

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Like that's a that's a standard that
the court says, you can't have a

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law that's vague, you can't criminalize
behavior and just be like we don't.

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We're you're not allowed to do stuff
that's yucky and that be a law because

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that's too vague. Yeah, and
it seems like it's almost like it like

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a strategy, like you were saying, there's this big fan for we put

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this bill in, We're gonna pet
oh, we're gonna get loaded against it,

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right, and then when the bill
dies six months later because it's not

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constitutional, there's there's no fan faar
and nobody, you know. And then

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then when it's judging the election I
introduced that bill when it's time to elecd

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it right, right, exactly,
Helen. So I do want to point

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out like the way that the like
I'm going to do this little quota your

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Vosky said, which this seems so
fucking silly to me. All ages welcome

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should be a crime in Florida for
these types of events, and under five

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year old free should be a felony. One of the best sponsors your Oscy

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tweeted in twenty twenty two, referencing
a drag performance. I've been saying this

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publicly while campaigning over the past year. There there's nothing okay about any any

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of this evil grooming and confusing of
young kids hashag child abuse. Now I

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got problems with these mofos because,
like, like we were talking about under

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the previous language of the lot that
was very broad strokes. And this is

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what happened with the book bands that
happened in my was happened in Florida,

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is that the language was so broad
that any mention what might cause a parent

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to make it like a stink eye
about they because there's no way to tell

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what's going to offend somebody, you
know, like I might find, you

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know, something very offensive where other
another person may not. And I can

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go to the school board and be
like, hey, I don't like this,

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this is making this is making me
feel bad, please and I don't

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want kids to read it. Please
get rid of it, you know,

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And the school's like because because that's
that's the world we live in right now.

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And you have to think about like, like imagine and if it's Halloween

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and you dress up and drag as
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I did it, like it come
as your favorite queer person party, you

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know. A couple of years ago, for Halloween and is that illegal because

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they were miners present, Like like
the way this was worded, like what's

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the line? And I am glad
that Like people are like, no,

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we can't really do this, but
my but I think it's rhetoric. It's

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like we're going we're going to make
a big stink of like you know,

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you know, like liberals in you
know, and like you know, the

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radical laugh and blah blah blah.
Okay, cool. I was the agenda,

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the welcome to agenda, which is
basically like, yeah, can we

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just all treat people like human beings
and let them have echol rights? That'd

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be great, thank you. For
some reason, they always make it about

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children. But the thing is,
though there's queer kids, you are I

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knew I was queer when I was
seven years old. It was confirmed when

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I was fifteen, but I was
seven. And also I would like to

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point out that I gave my kids
better as sex education the Florida school system.

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My kids that told me that,
like, you were much better at

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teaching me about sex than the Florida
school system, so you know, and

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those are the like I think there
has to be a combination of education and

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home home safety and balance, like
there has to be. There's always been

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this tandem between the two, between
schools and the state, and you know,

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people's private you know, private wants
and you know, desires, and

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we've always under kind of understood this, but lately it's saying like, well,

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if I find something icky, I'm
going to make a think about it

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and hopefully somebody makes a law.
And and I know that this didn't pass,

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you know, and we're just going
to make things that were already bad

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like, okay, yes, we
all agree that, you know, people

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shouldn't be weird around kids because it's
gross. Don't do that, people,

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But also you can say boys have
penises, girls have vaginas and tell her,

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you know, like we can have
those conversation about sex, and then

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we can talk about gender identity and
all that sort of thing. But those

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are normal conversations should we should be
having with kids so they can understand.

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They guess what, your generals don't
make your personality who you are as a

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person, same with your sexuality,
same as being a person in the world.

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So you know, I have any
sweet summer time. I'm a sweet

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little summer child. Sorry, sorry, I'm sorry, I'm a clear ass,

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you know, uppity woman. Okay, there's a prong in the law

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that we didn't talk about that covers
what your question actually and it covers what

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Eli was talking about about this being
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So one of the prongs was,
again the first version of the bill,

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a person who engages in the process
of preparing the child to engage in sex

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sexual activity through overtly sexually themed communication. That's one or in conduct observed by

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the child. So did you engage
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engage in sexual activity in conduct by
using conduct that a child observed? So

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that's where they're going after that generic
thing. Oh, you went to a

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drag joe. We're going to call
that preparing or encouraging a child to engage

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in sexual activity because you observed a
drag joe. And that says more about

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the GOP than it says about anything
else, because they view a guy in

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address as overtly sexual. I was
just thinking that too. I mean that

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that says something about them because they're
looking at men and men in a dress

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and getting turned down by it.
Right right, I'm kind of like it's

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like, hey, man, like
whatever makes you happy, like it's okay,

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like I'm not gonna dumb your now
and again again very vague, unconstitutionally

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vague, engaged in conduct like what
conduct you didn't talk about that they do

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later in the bill. But yeah, it's it's it's designed, as Eli

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was saying, to criminalize people for
existing. If a child observes you wearing

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a dress or maybe even just who
knows, wearing a tea shirt that says

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gay people exist, is that conduct
observed to a child that is encouraging them

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to be sexual? They think it
is. That's the problem. It isn't.

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This is all very silly, by
the way, Ali, do you

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think this is silly, because please
see Queen from Yarkowski that you read,

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Helen. But it really just kind
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And in the article it even says
like you don't need to hypothesize what this

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bill is about. It's pretty clear
based on who the supporters of it,

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who the authors of it are,
and like that that specific language you read

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across exam and just the way these
politicians are or these representative, Yeah,

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representatives are are conducting themselves socially publicly, like on social media that makes it

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extreme, namely clear what it is. And I think Kelly, I didn't

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think of it before, but you
mentioned that this is just so that the

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next election term they can say,
oh, well, you know, I

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wrote this bill, I introduced this
bill. What did my opponent do or

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what did you know anybody else do
to try to get rid of those you

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know, get rid of wokeism.
You know you don't care about the children,

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which they don't. I really hate
this. I'm just going to say

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this right now. I'm stick and
tired of political puponents using children as like

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propping them up as for a win
so they get votes. I think it's

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very gross. I don't like it. Sorry, it was just a side

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thing that drives me crazy. Go
ahead, you well, I was going

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to add. It's also to Eli's
point, it can also be a poison

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pill. They may not intend for
it to pass, They just want to

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put the bill up to so they
can go in front of their voters and

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say I introduced a bill that would
stop this drag queen nonsense. And the

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liberals voted against it or it passed, but the activist judges shot it down.

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So we should hate the judges and
we should hate the liberals when they

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knew all along it was a ship
bill. That's what they do. I

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don't think they care whether it passes
or not. It's just for image.

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Yeah, yeah, you're right.
It's just it's just a symbol to show

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that, look, I'm anti woke, just like all you people think I

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should be, which I'm not sure
is a winning strategy to begin with anymore.

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You know, it might have been
for a brief moment of time,

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but I don't think it is anymore. Yep.

