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On this lovely wet summer we're having in the UK, and after so many
years of a conservative government, we've got a labor government, two sides of
the same coin, but I won't go into too much of that. Well,
this show, I've got another Tony guest for you. She was on
just just a short time ago, a few months ago, and her name
is Kathy Cogliano. Now, at the end of the last show she mentioned
about her it is with aliens and UFOs. So this is the show that
we're going to be doing now. So really it's like a part two of
the previous show. So hope you'll be looking forward to that, and we
shall start it right now. So here we go with Kathy Cogniano. Hio.
Kathy, welcome back to the show. Hi, David, thank you
for having me. It's such an honor in showing you. Well, we
did this a few months back, and I can't remember exactly where, but
it seems like just yesterday. It's the time has gone so fast. I
don't know where the time's gone. Yes, it's gone very fast. Yeah,
I glad to be here. Yeah, I'm glad you because, I
mean, when we ended the show, you mentioned something about your particularly your
alien aliens and UFOs, and we all thought we perhaps we'll specialize on that
particular subject for this show because we went we went down the spiritual route last
time. Although a lot of it's all connected anyway, I believe do you
believe that? Yes, yeah, but a lot of people see it as
a completely different subject, which I once thought it was, but I don't
think it is one of the you know, I think there's connections with all
of it now. So maybe you'd like to start us off, So me
where you'd like to go with it, and you know, particularly yeah,
exactly where you know, David. For me, all this started as a
child. So my first encounter with an extraterrestrial was happened back when I was
a kid in fourth grade and my dad was in the Marine Corps. We
were stationed at a nuclear sub base in New London, Connecticut, and I
you know, we lived on base. So one morning I was walking to
school and it was interesting how this now happens for me. I was by
myself, whereas I have a brother and a sister. Normally there'd be you
know, at least the three of us, if not more, kids walking
to school together. That particular morning, I was by myself, and so
as I approached the school ahead of me, I could see the school in
the distance, and all of a sudden I looked up and there's this huge
cigar shaped craft just hovering there right in front of me, right between me
and where the school was. So it was pretty close, you know,
when I think back to it, and it was cigar shaped, it had
kind of black edges that appeared to be moving. I'll never forget though.
It was total silence, no sound, and the morning sunlight glinted off of
this craft that was almost blinding, that effect of the sun on it.
And it was interesting because I stood there transfixed. I can remember that looking
at this going what in God's name? And all of a sudden I have
the feeling that I'm going to be late for school. So all of a
sudden, I look up, the craft is gone and I'm now running to
school. So I mean, you know, I'm not sure how to interpret
that, but you know, it's interesting. A lot of uh, the
latest documentaries out there, especially the Aerial Phenomena Phenomenon documentary you know, speaks
of the aerial school situation in Zimbabwe that happened back in nineteen ninety four and
again set at a school with like thirty six children who all witnessed not only
a craft, but the craft landing and the aliens coming out, and you
know, so it's interesting. And then you know, there are other instances
where kids are having experiences at schools. I know there's another case I believe
in Wales. It was that we have wenning whales. Yeah, it was
in the Nazis I think so too. Yeah, I think you're right.
So it's it's interesting that all this is coming out now and that there is
that connection because I had the great good fortune of meeting to Aames Fox,
who did you know, numerous documentaries now on the subject, and in his
moment of contact, well that was our ginia. But you know, he
does he speaks about the aerial school phenomenon and and the fact of the school,
so he's been exposed to the uh, you know, the phenomenal phenomena
of you know, these school sightings. So it so I shared my story
with him at the time when he was presenting to a private group I was
I was part of. And you know, he finds it fascinating that there
is a connection there with kids, you know, and you know, especially
like in the Aerial Phenomenon documentary to see the kids all have pretty much tell
the same story and draw the same thing. So they're not I think,
because their kids their minds aren't exposed to well I'm going to make this up
and you know, I'm gonna you know, they just tell the truth,
you know, So that's you know. That impressed me when I saw that
documentary just actually just the other day of you know, these kids were simply
drawing and speaking about what they saw. There was no embellishment, you know.
So yeah, so for me, it did start as a kid,
you know, not only the extraterrestrial connection, but also you know, as
a kid the paranormal for me, so you know, I can communicate to
spirit. I've had some amazing experiences over the many years, and in a
lot of my experiences I've shared in Phenomenon magazine and Outer Limits magazine, and
so it's been a wild rage which I've loved. So and here I am
with you. So how you know that I say please to please you are
as well? So that experience, do you feel that you may have had
any abduction? David? I wonder about that with that school experience, because
I mean there was that distinct feeling that I was late for school and I
ran and I was late for school. But you know, here's the interesting
thing. I never told my parents about this. Now here's my dad in
the military. And when you you know, when you uh, you know,
kind of talk to other folks that have had these contact experiences. A
lot of times, there's a common denominator that these people say, like myself,
you know, one or more of their parents are in the military.
There's a military connection quite often. And then for me living on a nuclear
sub base, that was a huge connection because that New London, Connecticut sub
base if you google it, it has a long history of a lot of
craft siting there. So there's always that nuclear connection too. So yeah,
it's you know, I have I have all of those connections, and I
just you know it, I'm just kind of guided, David to be honest,
and you know, and being guided to the point of you know,
I had all these syn synchronicities line up for me to travel to Egypt,
and it was there or I just had I mean, I wrote about I
did a two part series of my travels through Egypt because they were so remarkable
on many levels, and you know, they were publishing in Phenomenon magazine.
It was Egypt a Soul's Journey. So it was a two part series.
You know what do you know what issue that was in Chance? Oh,
it was last year. It was last March and April of twenty twenty three.
They were back to back is year. Yeah, it was it was
a fascinating trip. And so the best part of that whole big story,
and it's a big story, is two weeks prior for me going to Egypt,
I had a birthday, so this is in February, and I had
a reading by a medium and she, you know, she's used to communicating
with everybody's loved ones in spirit. Well, she sits down with me and
I had all my guides come through. So there there are multiple guides I
have. It's it's it's a whole pantheon of God knows all kinds of gods
and goddesses and oh yeah. And so she says to me, okay,
she's she's seeing all these guides, and she says, Kathy, they want
me to tell you that three things are going to happen to you when you're
in Egypt. And I'll never forget this. I'm taking notes. And she
said, you're going to have so retrieval, You're going to experience sole retrieval,
astral travel, and an alien encounter. Wow. Did okay? How
God's name is any of that gonna happen? I mean I was just like,
what kind of thing? Ease? Oh? So being a media blove
and telling you something like that, she's really sticking her neck out, because
that's quite a lot of events too, you're gonna be looking out for,
yes, and you know, sticking her neck out in such a way that
she was not used to getting this kind of message from guides. She's used
to say, talking to my grandfather or my aunt Mary or whatever, you
know, so it was very interesting for her to go into their energy and
be able to, you know, share this message from them. And I'm
going to tell you, David, all three things happened. I mean,
it was such a remarkable trip on absolutely every level. You know. You
know, I have numerous past lives in Egypt, and you know some of
those came through just and and then honestly, what happened in the Great Pyramid,
it was like, you know, I had experience out experience all throughout
Egypt and all these incredible temples. Have you ever been to Egypt? No,
I'd love to go. You've got to go. It changes you,
It truly does. It's a light of altering expense. My wife, but
I've said so, I'd love to go, but she said, I'll have
a lot to go to Egypt. My wife does, she because of I
know, I think it's the well, excuse me if it's any Egyptians listened
to this. But so she doesn't particularly like the culture, you know,
although she knows it. Ay, but I think the culture is probably you
know, yeah, oh, it's very different from from from where we are,
you know, either the states here over in the UK. It's a
very different culture, it really is. And for me it was almost shocking
how in many ways certain parts of Egypt you're like stepping back in time.
You're back three thousand years ago. I mean, you go up to some
of those now tributaries and you've got people living in honest to god mud huts
who are and I witnessed this little child come out and he's washing clothes in
this tributary, and what goes floating by but the carcass of a dead horse.
Yeah, that's that's exactly what I mean. There's a lot of there's
a very big divide, isn't there. You've got the rich people which really
just keep everything to themselves and they don't really care about the rest of It's
a bit like India. Actually, we went to India twice and the culture
there is very similar, I would say to what probably it's like in Egypt,
but maybe the people a little bit different. Magical, to say the
least, it's magical. You know, I felt the minute I stepped off,
you know, our bus to get to our hotel. It truly I
was stepping onto the Motherland for me. It's just that term came into my
head. I felt like I returned home. So much of where we went
throughout, I felt like I'd been there before. And yeah, so what
was that kind of your first experience that you mentioned to to feel that you're
the reincarnation part of it? No, I've known of past lives. It's
it's it's funny. So I'm very lucky in that for about four years I
had a very powerful teacher come on my path. His name was Zenos.
He would he would speak to me on past lives, but only past lives
that I either had full recall of or I you know, could kind of
remember part of it, or you know, he wouldn't just sit down and
say, okay, this, you've had this, this and this past life.
So for instance, when I was going to Egypt, you know,
he did reference that I have had past lives in Egypt. But because we
had that conversation prior to me going. He wouldn't tell me about the past
life. You know, he didn't want to, you know, kind of
set anything up, so to say. But No, throughout a lot of
my travels, David, it's interesting, I'm guided to go to places that
are very spiritual. They hold a lot of power. For instance, in
the UK, you know a bury stonehenge, I mean, you name it.
I'm guided to go to these certain places, and nine times out of
ten I have recall of a past life there. So there's there's a reason
why I guess my guides want me back there. You know, I've experienced
some very interesting things when I'm back in these places that I've had a past
life then, and I've written about them. I've shared a few of these
journeys, but I got to tell you the one in Egypt is just beyond
and then to truly have you know, literally I had the sole retrieval piece
happen, you know, I had the astro travel piece happen when I got
back home, and I also had an alien encounter. So I mean,
I in a thousand years would I ever think those things would happen to me?
Never? But they did, so it's remarkable. So I guess I
thought, you know, if you want, I'll share you know what have
I I could take like three hours, but you know, I just thought,
maybe, you know, just the encounter, you know, to go
to that alien encounter, because that's just jump in there was those the experiences
was that over spaced of lot two weeks three weeks or what I was in
Egypt for two weeks two weeks so all of that happened in two weeks.
Well yeah, and uh, and we we pretty much went to all of
the major temples and it was remarkable. You know. I got to say,
you know, some of the experiences were a little scary. You know,
they're extremely intense, one in particular. And and then to top it
off, because you know, our very last full day in Egypt was the
day we went to the Great Pyramids, you know, to the Giza Plateau
and you know, saw the Sphinx God. That is remarkable to stand there
at the you know, between the pose of the Sphinx and and then behind
it you see you know, the Great Pyramids. It's just magical. Do
you say it on film? Unfortunately, but I can get there. It
is well worth it. It is it's as I said, it's truly life
changing for a lot of people, and for me it was, uh,
it was something I just you know, just even going up into the Great
Pyramid is you just don't you know when you see pictures of it, there's
there's no set doorway there to speak of. It's not, oh yeah,
what's a doorway. No, it's it's almost like this really rough cut out
opening that you have to climb up these blocks of stone to get there.
Where even been built. It's actually amazing because of the white. The white
that's actually resting on the portals of the door, shouldn't really be able to
hold it up, should it, you know, right, David, You're
right, it's it's it's mind boggling. The whole thing is mind boggling.
And yeah, and so you know, like I laugh because I think to
myself, Okay, so if this structure was in the US, it would
be lit up, it would have flashing lights, it would it would just
be it would not just be this phenomenal, you know, one of the
seven Wonders of the ancient world, just sitting there in its original form,
not you know, original carved out door that they went in through you know.
So it's very funny, you know, to look at it that way
compared to what you know, how it would change if it was someplace else,
but it was. It's it's very much as it was the you know,
three thousand years ago, and you know, we we As you go
in, you ascend this set of stairs and it's in this carved out tunnel
and you've got to crunch down and really climb up. So I often thought
to myself, Okay, if you were like a really tall person, your
back would kill you because you're going like straight up. And it's you know,
this series of stairs that you crunch down. There's railings the other side.
You get up, and then you go through what is the Grand Gallery
again, another ascension up, and then you get into the King's Chamber.
And the King's Chamber is the first thing that strikes you is how vast it
is. And the second thing that strikes you is that it's these huge cut
tons of stone, you know, big stone slabs that are all stacked and
connected so smoothly. You couldn't even put a credit card through the touching surfaces
of these stones. It was that precise. And then the other thing I
noticed and I was almost shocked, is that there's no adornment in the king's
chamber at all, nor in the Queen's chamber, no adornment, no paint,
no hieroglyphs, nothing. And so we've spent almost two weeks going through
Egypt in the most stunning temples that are nothing but higher glyphs and nothing but
painted and must have been spectacular in their original forms. And you know,
so here you are and this very stark, huge rectangular room with this huge,
big ceiling. It's it's incredible. And then as I walked into the
space, I stood there, and then ahead of you is with this back
light and creating this very dramatic effect, is the sarcophagus that's there. That
is the only thing in that room is this red granite stone sarcophagus that's set
down the you know, ahead of you, down the fall far back wall,
so as you walk in, you're facing it. And I thought to
myself, David, alms to God. I stood there and I thought,
oh my god, I've been here before. It was the freakiest feeling,
and my heart was like pounding. And we were all instructed to sit around
the edges of the of the of the room, and one by one I
had actually traveled, i should say, to Egypt with William Henry from ancient
Aliens. So yeah, with this your wife Claire, there were probably I
think, I want to say, seventeen of us and then William and Claire.
And so we had a private time in the Great Pyramid, which is
remarkable. Normally you're surrounded by could be up to thousands of people, so
here we did have this beautiful time to ourselves. So one by one we
went up and had time lying down in the sarcophagus, having like an initiates
experience, as that chamber was used for thousands of years ago. And you
know, everybody was kind of going and I just I heard this voice in
my head say you have to go last. So I'm like, okay,
So I've learned to listen to those voices, so I, you know,
flagged down William and Clay and I said, do you mind if I go
last? And I'm like, you even know, sure, go ahead.
So everybody else in my group goes up and gets their time lying down in
the sarcophagus and then I go and again it's like something took over my body.
I can't tell you what it was. I remember I walked up to
the sarcophagus, I did. I stepped into it, and I turned around
and I faced my group and I bowed to them and acknowledged them. They
were sitting in what would be considered north. I Claire was on my left,
William on my right, and then a friend of mine, Carol,
came up behind us. So on the four corners, you know, we
had north, southeast, and west. And I vowed to eat one of
them. And it was like an audible gasp in my group. And then
I lied down in the sarcophagus and David I went somewhere else. I went
out of my body. My last conscious thought was literally, I I am
no longer breathing well, and I don't have any to this day. I
do believe at some point I will get the recall back. I don't have
full recall as to where I went, although I do know I went out
of my body, as did some of the others in my group, you
know, having spoke to them years later. Yeah, yeah, And so
it was interesting because then all of a sudden, I mean, God knows
where I was, and then William, you know, my time was up.
We had, know, just a certain amount of time, and he
shakes, he had to shake my feet to get wake me up, and
I could literally feel myself swish back into my body. It was the craziest
thing. And then I could barely stand up. I was so disorientated.
So they helped me to stand up. What I'm worried about, you that
maybe a postale or something or I you know, I don't know. It
just I seem to have been in there a little bit of a time and
they you know, he really had to shake me. But yeah, so
I get out and I'm I'm really kind of you know, literally straddling worlds.
This is what it felt like. I had one world, you know,
foot in this world, and I felt like I had another foot in
the other world as I stepped out of that sarcophagus. And it's interesting because
you know, in my studies over the years there the Great Pyramid was one
of the great mystery schools, and that is what was taught of what they
call living resurrection, of going in and they would use that sarcophagus as part
of the mystery school process of doing this resurrection exercise where you learn to literally
die, you learn to die, You go off and your body leaves its
physical body, and it does travel into the asteroid planes. But yet you're
taught how to come back and have your living resurrection. You don't die,
you come back. So all that was so interesting to have actually had that
experience and the feeling of having been there before was just incredible. And so,
you know, as I get out of these sarcophagus, I was being
the last one. Most of my group had gone down to the Queen's chamber.
So you kind of descend down those stairs, you crawl up, you
descend down backwards to go back down into the Queen's chamber, and I,
you know, get my bearings, and I, you know, Claire comes
up and says, Kenthy, come on, come on, we're down in
the Queen's chamber. And I go down and one of our Egyptian guides,
hot team, who was wonderful. He was almost like a personal guy.
I'd watched for me because I was having all these crazy experiences, and he
could see me. He said to me when we were in a great pyramid,
he's he points to his third eye and he says to me, I
see you. You were an initiate here. So I'm like, so everything
I was feeling he validated. I mean, he's he claimed he could see
and I believe him. I mean, he's he felt very familiar to me
with the minute we first met, and he kind of, you know,
he he literally helped me through a few experiences I was having throughout our trip,
and that being one of them in the sarcophagus, and so then you
know, he he kind of you know, allowed me to stay back and
kind of catch my breath and get my bearings, and and then I go
down to the Queen's chamber. Good lord. So as I go down,
you know again you're going backwards down the flighty stairs, and then you go
into the Queen's chamber. It's a very small opening. You gotta again,
I'm five three, you gotta like dunk down and go into the Queen's chamber,
and again you're struck with it's it's just all stone. There's no adornment.
There is one beautiful carved out niche, you know, as you walk
into the left and and they theorize that you know, back in the day
they probably held you know, the statue of one of the gods, probably
a Nubis, the god of the dead, but they never ever have found
or any evidence of any pharaoh or queen being buried there in the Great Movement.
But as you go into the Queen's chamber, it's not much smaller,
still very high ceiling, but again no adornment, no paint. And so
I just I find that just fascinating because everywhere else, everything they built,
they adorned, and it's fascinating, you know, to see the beautiful hieroglyphs
and everything they're depicted in their entire history. You know, any of the
pharaohs, you know that that's what they use, the higher goph scores.
They told their story, you know, about their rain and whatnot. And
so in the Queen's chamber, as I go dunk down and go into that
doorway, I look to the left and then I look to the right,
and my group is kind of ahead of me. Everybody's real busy, you
know, just kind of checking some things out. Some folks had already left
to go back up to the King's chamber, and I am drawn, like
I can't tell you to go to the right, and I'm drawn to go
to an air shaft that is right there on the wall as you walk in.
If you ever see. There's a photograph out there of the Queen's chamber.
You can see the doorway that you go in, and you can see
the niche on the left, and you can see this airshaft. It's the
northern airshaft. There's two in there, and I'm drawn to the one to
the right, now, drawn so much so that literally I walk over to
this thing and I put my face in this ancient airshaft. Now, good
God Almighty, I have no idea why or what that thlot was, but
I'm doing it. I'm just following. It's like again something took over,
and I walk up and I put my face in. And it's interesting because
the height of that air shaft is about five three I mean, I could
literally stand there and just put my face into it. And immediately, I
you know, obviously I sense, you know, it's pitch blackness, but
I could see the tunnel, you know, the sides tunneling down, and
then it's absolute total blackness. And as I stood there, I'm thinking to
myself, Okay, why am I doing this? And then I and that
thought quickly goes by when all of a sudden, as I look down to
the very darkest depths, this light appears and it's this beautiful shade of this
red pink. And as I look at this light, it starts to take
a shape, and it's taking the shape of what looked to me like an
arched window. I mean it's fully arched, straight bottom, and I'm thinking,
the how's going on here? And it's again it's light. It's this
beautiful shade of pink light. So I'm standing there. I have no fear.
I'm just kind of watching what's happening. When all of a sudden,
David, this rounded thing, what obviously looked like the top of the bald
head, starts rising up and it comes up and up from the bottom of
this arched window, and it was this being. He was this beautiful shade
of very light blue green. And I'm watching this being come up and it
comes up but bup. So now I see a full head. And what's
interesting the head is oval this way side to side over, unlike the gray
like this I'm American football shirt, Yeah, exactly perfect, and I see
these like what looks like little ears they had. You know, he had
these big eyes, but not as big as a gray, so they didn't
feel his whole head but big, and I didn't notice a nose, I
didn't really notice a mouth, and I I just I just stood there and
I had absolutely no fear. So here he's got this head going side to
side at oval. He's a very thin, long neck and small, very
delicate looking shoulders. So I'm only seeing him from from here up. And
I had no fear, no fear. And what emanated from this being David
was nothing but sheer, happiness, happiness and love. I mean, even
when I speak of this and I recall this, and it is an overwhelming
feeling of love came from this being and happy. And then he started to
talk to me telepathically, and he said to me that he was so happy
that they could now show themselves to me, and that I would not be
afraid. And I can remember laughing and smiling at this, going I've got
afraid, and he just smiled, you know. I mean, it's just
like his happiness. I mean, not that his smile smile, but it's
like I could almost see a smile, ye, yeah, exactly. And
I just thought, my god, what is going on here? I mean,
I should be screaming and running out of here, but I know,
I mean I was just like in awe of what I was feeling. And
then he said to me, they come in peace and do not mean us
any harm. He tells me that they have been here before to help mankind.
They walked the earthplane with us and helped establish our ancient civilizations, in
particular ancient Egypt. And then he told me, you know, don't be
afraid. He said, We're glad you're not afraid, but that we will
come back. We will come back to see you. And then he started
to dissolve, so he kind of dissolved, the light dissolved. I just
took my face out of that airshaft and I thought, oh my god,
what just happened. I almost couldn't wrap my mind around it. And by
that point, all the others had left the Queen's chamber and they went back
up to the King's chamber, so I'm by myself. So in a way,
I'm glad because I was able to just stand there and just absorb what
just happened, and again no fear. I was just like, Okay,
I think I'm kind of one of the luckiest people ever to have had this
encounter. Oh my god. And I didn't tell any of my travelers,
fellow travelers. I don't know why. I just I just kept it off
to my Why wou't you not tell them? Tell me? I can't tell
you, honestly, God cannot tell you other than I just think it affected
me so deeply that I had this encounter. And again, there is and
you mentioned it earlier, there is a spiritual connection to all of this,
and there's a paranormal connection to all of this. Do you feel sorry?
Do you feel that like maybe wouldn't have believed you or something, or oh
there's always that oh God, yeah, yep, yep. So I do
believe that's part of it. But yet at the time, David, so
that was pretty much our last day in Egypt. So the next day we're
all leaving each other, our flying home. So I just sat with that
and kept that to myself. I didn't speak about that for a very long
time to anybody. And I think because like you just said, there is
an element of especially, well, this is back in twenty fourteen. You
know, you weren't having all these people coming forward now like we do,
you know, telling their of their experiences and encounters and all that. And
I just I just kind of kept it to myself and then and the interesting
part is my fellow travelers up in the King's Chamber. As I am acclimating
myself down on the Queen's chamber, still I hear them toning. And we've
been to sacred sites where some of the women will tone and it's usually a
beautiful thing to hear. Well, they all started toning, and it was
everybody that was up there. In fact, William Henry did take a recording
of this. It was remarkable. I stood there and my first thought was,
oh my god, this is other worldly. And I my second thought
was, this is the music of the sphears. I mean, this is
like, oh my god. There was an element of it, not of
it being of another world truly. And so I do have a copy of
this and I will periodically listen to it. It's remarkable. There's a point
where something takes over these human toning voice. There's another layer that comes in.
So it was you know, I got to tell you that term to
Egypt was remarkable. And to have that be the grand finale, you know,
have that having that extrarestrial encounter in the Great Pyramid in the Queen's taper
was like Wow, Okay, do you feel they might have been using that
as a potl or do you think that they actually resulte this somehow? Yep,
I do think so. David, Yes, you know, I you
know, when he tells me how they have been here and helped to establish
the ancient Civilisa, I didn't question anything that being said to me, did
not question anything. It almost as though it confirmed for me. I was
having these feelings myself whenever I read about this type of stuff, and to
have him come, you know, and then to have this encounter David in
the Great Pyramid doesn't get by me, you know, with my Egyptian connection
to pest lives, with my connections with the extraterrestrials, you know, I
mean, God, I can't tell you all the ships I see, and
it's just like there is a connection there. So for this being to use
the Great Pyramid of Egypt, I find fascinating to communicate to me that it
all connected. It almost was like it connected all the dots and then was
interesting. And the story continues because when I got home, my dear friend
Linda, who couldn't wait to go out to lunch to hear all about my
travels in Egypt. So we meet for lunch and I tell her about what
happened in the Great Pyramid and Linda is, Oh, my god, what
a beautiful soul she was, and very awake. She's a medium, she
channels, and so she she just was like soaked up my story. And
then she sat there and she said to me, have you ever heard of
Tom Kenyon? And I looked at her. I was like, no,
I've never heard him. Who is he? And she said, she pulls
out a book and I've got the book here. I know, you know,
it won't be seen during our interview, but I do have the book.
It's called The Half Orne Material. And what strikes me is when she
pulled out this book at our lunch and shows me this book. I was
a guest because the being that's depicted on the cover of this book is exactly
what I saw in the Great Pyramid. And I went and so the fact
that she had this book, I'm like what. She opens the book and
she just, you know, starts basically describing the being I saw. And
what Tom Kenyon does, along with his partner Virginia, has seen, is
they they they channeled the halth Thors, These beings that I saw the half
Thors. They channel them, and it is is remarkable in that everything that
they talk about, that they are masters of sound, that they come in
love and care, they watch over us as a civilization. They talked about
exactly what the message was I got in the Great Pyramid, that they helped
establish our ancient civilizations, in particular the mystery schools in Egypt and all over
the world. And I mean I I was speechless when when she started to
read to me parts to this book, and it was as though, I
mean, talk about synchronicities. I mean to go and have this launch and
have her up this book looking at you said that profound effects on you.
Oh my god. And I yeah, and and and you know, I
would say to anybody who's listening, you know, google that book. Read
that book. I went back and I have since read it different parts of
it. They have some amazing healing techniques they share with you, some of
them I've incorporated. They just I mean, they were an incredible extraterrestrial group
of beings that you know, they're here to help us. And I do
feel that, you know, hopefully I believe they will be that they that
they are helping to protect us from ourselves. Now, how sad is that
a statement to make? But it's true, especially exactly David, with our
nuclear capabilities and everything, it is there they will be here to help us.
So I I, you know, I put my hope in them that
they will, in fact, you know, help protect us literally from ourselves.
Where am actually where are actually from? I think is that a plenty
dimensional? Yeah? They they They say that they came to us through uh
serious, and that not only did they help the ancient Egyptian civilization, but
also others, the Palladians, the Syrians. So there there was, there
was, There's been a whole group of these exterrestrial civilizations that have come through
and helped throughout our you know, our you know, establishing who we are.
And they're they're still there, you know, they're still there helping us,
you know, working through people like Tom Kenyon, and I believe they
even working through even some little person like me. You know that that any
of us out there that have had contact, I really do believe now is
the time to step up and talk about it and I and I will acknowledge
that I I, you know, I'm blessed to have had a very good
experience with these half our beings. I do know friends, and I know
we have friends in common who have not had good experiences with the extraterrestrials.
And I'm very aware of that. And but you know, though, I
think we need to talk about all of it, you know, have those
hard conversations, and then hopefully have the conversation where I learned of you know,
these beings that they they truly do care and say that they come in
love. You know. I know that sounds naive, but that was the
message. That wasn't my words, that was their words, and I experienced
it firsthand, the love and the piece that came from this being. So
that's where I hold out my hope is that these these good beings, these
good extraterrestrials, are out there watching over us. And you called yourself,
but it me just a little while ago. I don't believe. I believe
that maybe you've you've got an ancient connection and perhaps you're here for that purpose,
you know, to pass the world and to make those connections. Thank
you, David. I think so, you know, And and then I
say to someone like yourself, you're a big part of this plan. You
have a platform. You're allowing people like myself to come on to have a
voice, which is very, very important. So I thank you for what
you're doing. And I know you've had many others on your show that have
had similar or interesting you know, contact and stories and connections and and again,
it is all connected, you know, the spiritual, the paranormal,
the you know, the extraterrestrial. I really do believe we're waking up to
realize it is all connected and that we have never been alone. I fully
believe that we have never been alone. Yeah, so it uh So the
end of this big story is that when I got home. So remember I
mentioned there were three things that were spoken of that I would experience. So
soul retrieval happened throughout Egypt. I was recalling multiple past lives. Obviously,
the extraterrestrial connection, our alien connection happened, and so the actual travel piece
happened when I got home. So I, oh, this is probably about
a month after I returned home. I'm lying in bed, just me and
the dog was asleep in you know, at the other side of the bed,
and all of a sudden, these light beings come into my room and
I knew I was awake, and my first thought was, Okay, it's
not a dream. And they come down and they I have one take me
under one arm. One come and take me under the their arm, and
up through the house we go. And I say light being because I almost
want to say angel, but it's I think they appeared to me in a
way that I wouldn't be afraid, So I kind of think of them as
like an angel or a light being. But up we go. We're up
in the universe and we're traveling. I know this sounds extremely phanto fantasyful.
I've just I've heard I've heard things before, so really, David, oh
my god, I'm so glad to hear that. And we're going, we're
flying, we're going through the universe, and I can remember the feeling very
cold, and mind you, I'm just like in a night dress, right,
and We're going through the universe, and I can remember noticing the stunning
beauty of it, you know, of seeing the star systems, of seeing
it all. And then we start to descend, and I can remember I
looked down and I went, oh my god, this is Egypt. This
is the Great Pyramids are down below us. We've swoopen They've got me.
We go in through this oh small opening the very top of the Great Pyramid,
and we come into the King's chamber and they land me down on my
feet on the back end of the sarcophagus. And when I settle and turn
around, I am looking at a room full of all of my guides,
most of them my Egyptian guides. The isis you know, Horus, I
mean, you name it, They're all there. Then I see, I
know this sounds crazy. I see directly behind the sarcophagus Jesus to his left,
his mother Mary to his right, Mary Magdalen, And I'm going,
what a in in God's name? And so these light beings. Literally I'm
standing there facing this group. They take off my night dress I remember going,
and then as quick as that happened, I had this white robe put
on me, and they turned me to face this group, and they bend
me backwards over the sycophagus. I mean, David, as I talked to
you about this, it's like a movie. I can see it as clear
as day. They bend me over the sycophagus. Uh, there's a liquid
poured onto the ground of my head. And then I'm quickly and words were
said, and again I don't fully recall what was said, but I do
know it was like an initiation. It was a ceremony like a baptism,
and I'm write it. Back up, off comes the white rope, Back
on comes the nightcam, and they again take me under each arm. We
go back up and out the way we came, and I'm back in my
bed like that. And the first absolute thought I had, you know,
and then those beings are gone, is that, Okay, I wasn't dreaming.
And I know that sounds crazy that your first was that, yeah,
oh, I wasn't dreaming. And that's the thing that I had a hard
time kind of wrapped my mind around, like but wait, how does that
even happen? But it did. And again that was the third thing predicted
was the astral travel. So it was the astral travel back to Egypt to
have what I believe was an initiation that I had had in other lifetimes there
as part of the mystery school that for some reason they wanted me to relive
that, to be aware of it and to know that I had a part
in this in a past lifetime. And you know, through some of my
studies there are and other people have written about this and talked about this,
that Jesus, Mother Mary, Mary Magdalen, they all had gone through the
Mystery schools in Egypt. They had spent time in Egypt, and they were
initiated in the Great parent in yeah, in the Great Pyramid as well,
and as well as in the Temple of Heliopolis. That was where Mary Magdalene
and Mother Mary, that's where they were high priestesses. So I mean,
it just it's amazing to me, David, the connection for our our whole
human kind, our planet, our world can go back to Egypt. Egypt
seems to be a common denominator. And even with you know, you know,
Jesus and Mary Magdalene, you know, I know that's the Catholic construct.
You know, they are part of the Catholic construct. And I grew
up as a Catholic. But they they even had time in Egypt. They
you know, and and and even you know when Marry mother of Jesus and
Joseph had to flee Egypt and I'm sorry, flee the Holy country, flee
Lea Jeru when they were killing the firstborn children. They fled to Egypt.
And I had traveled the Holy Land. And then in particular, I was
guided to go to this Coptic church in Egypt when I was there, and
in the basement of this Coptic church is a carved out like cave effect that
you walk down these ancient stone steps, and this was where you're told that
the Holy Family hid was underneath this original structure. It wasn't a church back
then because the Catholic sure, Catholic religion had not come to be at that
point, but it was it was an ancient temple that they hid while they
were going through Egypt. So it's fascinating the connections that thread through all of
this that then go back to Egypt. Well, I think I think I
thought when you said you went into the sarcophagus, do you not feel that
that was an actual travel as well? I think you're right. Yeah,
I mean I did go somewhere, although you say you got no memories of
that, but you say you kind of zone there or passed there or whatever,
it seems that you had a nactual travel there actually, I think,
not just when you came back. Yeah, I think you're right. And
again, you know they foretold it the astral travel piece, so you're right,
it happened twice. Yeah, And here's the interesting thing. My dear
friend Michael, he has a show here in the UK, I'm sorry,
in the US, and he traveled with me to Egypt. So we were,
you know, one of the seventeen you know, each of us.
And so when I did his show, and this goes back, I want
to say, this was either earlier this year or the late of last year,
and I was a guest. We just we had such a great time
just sharing our stories about Egypt. What I did not know is that he
had the exact same experience I had in the sarcophagus, but he could recall
what happened to him. So he left his body he had and went to
this room where he had an initiation with the same people that were at the
initiation I had when I asked or traveled back. So he was probably in
the mystery schools as well, and that he had that experience in the sarcophagus,
but yet he remembered it. He's sorry, he remembered it, and
I can remember being flabergasted, really something. Yeah, I was like,
wow, okay, so it you know, we had to talk obviously and
share those experiences. When when you fit the experience and you'll you're actually questioning
what happened to you And if someone comes along and says exactly the same thing,
it must have been more blowd I know, it's like, okay,
but I love how the universe works because you know, I can be the
biggest doubting Thomas going and yet they'll send me confirmations like that to kind of
go see because yeah, yeah, it was remarkable. I will go back.
It's just a matter of when it well, yeah, it has to
take me with you. Oh, there you go. I tell you,
it's life changing. It truly is. It's like any I've not talked to
one person who's been to Egypt that doesn't I'd love to go. Really,
you really will. I probably never will. Don't say never. Well,
and you know there are times where you know it, you know it can
be rough. You know that that part of the world is usually some type
of turmoil or another. But but yeah, if we can get there,
I would say, do it, do it while we can, you know,
with all the wars that are breaking out, and that's what I worry
about. You know, in the Holy Land, you know that that some
of these very sacred sites, Yeah, get destroyed. Yeah, we've already
lost quite a few. In the post something were looking in Iraq with the
It's terrible. Did did you ever speak to William Henry about your experiences in
the end? You never spoke of us. I never did, and you
probably get a spot on ancient I tell you that story. You know,
it's it's funny. I know I never did, And honest to God,
I I'm not sure. I mean, I know some reasons why, but
then I think, well, why not, you know, and just I
don't know. You know, I did some travel with them over the years,
and then we just kind of all kind of lost touch and everybody kind
of goes their own way, and and then I never had the chance to
share that. But I'm honest to God, I'm not really sure why I
didn't speak. I think maybe because of the fear of not being believed.
I think it's a big part for me or back then it did. Now
here I am talking about it and and and and fully believed that you know,
those of us have had we need to talk about it. When the
show goes out, you'll have to send in a link and say I listen
to this. Yeah, there you go and yeah, yeah, no,
it was. It was. It was a remarkable, remarkable, remarkable experience
one I'll never forget. One I enjoy writing about and speaking about obviously,
Yeah, yeah, it was pretty special. But you know, David again,
I you know, just need to to kind of say that, you
know, more and more of these you know, investigative reporters and you know,
are are starting to put the pieces together of the connection to the paranormal
and to uphology and then you know and even the spiritual piece of all that.
You know that that is there. So it's nice to see like a
Leslie Keane, you know, and and Ralph Bluement Bell connect those dots and
they've been writing about that and it was it was so refreshing to hear,
you know, to read and hear people of that statue stature, with the
platforms they have that they're now speaking about it. So it's kind of exciting
time sparing right now that that a lot is coming out. You know,
you've got Groush, You've got all these you know, uh, you know,
Washington, all of these you know, committees now going down that road
of wanting you know, to to have disclosure. And I think the time
is now coming that it'll all start to happen. I just have that sense
that I'll do that. I'll do fine. That's a mainstream media and now
more serious about it than they used to be back a few years ago,
when it's just sort of pooh pooh love for everything, although they do try
and make a joke with these still if you mentioned, but it's got a
lot more seriousness about it because I think more people now believe in it,
and you know, and having experience, I mean all over the will we
get in lock of thousands every day of experiences, aren't we well, at
least at least anyway, you know, it's remarkable, and you know,
I've come to the point where I will say our truth is our proof,
because here's the other side of that. Everybody wants proof. I do believe,
you know, and I think you're seeing this in some of these documentaries,
especially the ones like about the aerial phenomenon happening at the school. You
see these children who are writing down their experiences. They're drawing what they saw,
and that's their truth. They're not lying about it. They're just merely
telling you what they saw, and they're drawing what they saw and to me,
that's proof, that's their truth, is their proof of their experience.
So hopefully, you know, we've got a lot more open minded people out
there now. It's it's nothing that you have to feel ashamed of out anymore.
And I think there was a lot of that years ago, that you
were a nutter if you even mentioned any of what I talked about, absolutely,
yeah, yeah. I mean we've got a mutual friend called Bill Rook.
Now when you mentioned he's a real characteristic We're still waiting for his book
to arrive, but that's a that's another story. But when you mentioned the
light beings, I mean he's had a lot of years of experience with the
so called light beings, which I don't think he understands what they are.
But do you feel that maybe they were the same entities that you were talking
about. I think they present to us in many different ways. Yeah,
yeah, And for some reason my senses, they present that way to him
that there's so many multi dimensions out there, David. I'm a big believer
of us being a very multi dimensional world, and I think whatever these light
beings are there, he has an affinity for them clearly. I mean I've
seen his photographs. They are he photographs. Yeah, and and just you
know it's it's I can't wait for his book. I mean, he is
true and and you know what, they're not dust particles, there's no way.
Yeah, no, no, I agree with you. I've seen something
too. He's been on he's been on the show. Actually we had a
good talk about it. But he showed me these folkso years ago, and
he'll probably listen to this show. So we've got to be careful what we
say, Hello Bill, you know, uh, you know to the point
where I've tagged him as a B for Alien Bill and just we go back,
yeah, gosh, we go back now quite a few years. Yeah,
yeah, you know, he's a very special soul. And again,
you know, timing for his book is going to be spot on because again
he's bringing another dimensional element to what we're talking about. And and it's we
need to see that and know about it, that it is there, you
know. Yeah, I mean I'm always awe struck when I see his his
photograph. When you're listening to this, Buield, I know you are listening
to this coming out, and get that book out because we're still waiting,
Yes, get going he's got the T shirts. Now he needs the book
in your younger years, So that that UFO you saw going to school,
was that kind of your first UFO experience here that you that you know or
that you remember anyway, Yeah, yeah, it was. And I have
seen a lot of craft since then. I saw, oh boy, I
saw a triangular craft right above me. I was downtown Plymouth, middle of
the day, getting gasoline from my car, this young man pumping the gas
lane for me, and I'm sitting there and I just look up and right
in front of me, right above the tree line, above some some houses,
there's a triangular crack the hell And I look around and the kid humping
the gas he's not seeing it. Nobody walking around, and was a lot
of people out and about. Nobody's looking up, nobody sees it. But
yet I'm seeing it, and I'm thinking, Okay, what is this?
And then as soon as I look back up, it's gone. But completely
there. I mean, you could see you can see, not that I
saw the lights on per se, they weren't red, but you could see
where there were three round shapes underneath it. But it was totally triangular.
And then the other interesting experience I had was last year. I I go
out. I have a I have a great little courtyard in this house,
so you can, you know, go outside and you're you know, you're
totally in privacy, but yet it's all open to the sky, you know.
And I I'll go out a lot at night and I'm I always am
seeing something up there. You know, things are moving, things are flashing
a lot of times. What they'll do is they will flash a light three
times and I know they're up there. And one night I go out and
it was about nine thirty in the evening. The dog had gone out too
with me. I'm kind of standing ill, looking up, looking up,
when all of a sudden, it was kind of a patchy, cloudy night.
I look up and David, there's a mothership above me. And it's
right over my house, right above the tree line, and I see it
gently gliding through the clouds. It was the most beautiful, stunning thing I've
ever seen. And it was almost like these tic tac lights are on the
whole edge of this craft. And it was massive. So I I'm like,
oh my god. I go running into the house. I almost kill
the poor dog stepping on her. I trip over the dog, I get
in the house, I get my phone, I come back go and I
aimed the phone. I thought I'd put it on video, okay, and
I'm filming this thing. It's still going by my house. It was that
big, and it's just like, oh my god, and I'm thinking to
myself, this is gonna be the most stunning video ever taken. Only to
look down to see I had it on photo wow, and this is you
know, this is how it works, right. They a lot of times
don't want you capture anything, so they probably switched it. They switched it
from videos to photo movie. They probably did. You're right, And I
can maybe so mad, going, oh my god, I don't believe this,
but I'll never forget it. I mean, it was it was us
stunning. What the thing is? Did you get a photo because by the
time it had gone through and then the clouds really started to come in,
the gaps that I was seeing it through were gone, and oh my god.
But again they let me know they're there. I was grateful for that.
I truly was. And I do you feel they actually I aim at
people kind of thing. They allowed you certain people to see them at certain
times, so not everyone sees them at once lot, you say, when
you're at the gas station and it was only you that saw them. Yeah,
you know, I posted that all. I chimed in on somebody's post
on Facebook about you know, seeing something and you know, I don't think
anybody else saw it, And so I shared a brief, little, you
know story about me seeing that triangular shaped crap. I had more people chiming
in saying to me, the others weren't meant to see it, only you
were meant to see it. And that felt right, like for whatever reason,
they let me know they're around at certain times. And you know what
I always have found fascinating, David, is that, oh god, was
it like nineteen fifty DEPOORI ish we've had Eisenhower is in a white house and
he has that uh incredible meet up with the aliens and that he actually met
with them and that So do you actually feel that actually happened? Do you
believe that? Yeah? Yeah, yeah I do. It's funny. I've
heard that story and I never once doubted it. Now, you know,
this is before anything happened to me, But I never doubted that story.
And the thing that always fascinated me about that meeting is that they made an
agreement Eisenhower with the alien beings to allow them to take certain number of people.
Now I find that fascinating because you know, if that was in fact
an agreement, how did that work? You know? Who got picked?
These are all the questions I have, And I think, Okay, so
are some of these people who are having these incredible experiences? And I don't
mean myself, but I mean some others have had these incredible experiences where they're
up on craft, they can remember what they saw, and you know,
Whitley Strieber is just one person that comes to mind. Were they chosen?
Were they on the list? I have always found that fascinating, and one
day I'd love to know how that laid out. Was there a list,
who was on it? And then to follow up with what experience did they
have? You know, any of these people that were in fact on the
list, and that when you go through and you you know, common denominated
with a lot of people like myself, and I mentioned this earlier, is
a military connection. A lot of times there's a military connection with sightings.
So yeah, so that's the stuff I think about, you know, and
and of course that's back when everything started to get covered up everything you know,
obviously Russell, I mean, you name it, it all started to
get covered up. And now I'm glad to see that we're getting to a
point where it's all getting exposed. So there's disclosure happening. Yeah, so
it's great in our lifetime. Think about all we've seen. I mean,
when you really think about it, we've been witnessed to it all, being
exposed, to it all happening and being recorded and being covered up. To
a certain extent, I think it discoes has already been taking place. Anyway.
A lot of the UFO files they've released, there's a lot of gems
within those if you read through them. I'm not obviously not read through all
of them because it's thousands and thousands and thousands of pages, but I've seen
quite a few, and there's a lot of un answered questions and sightings and
things that nobody can answer what they are. So I think there's a certain
amount of disclosure coming on, and when you're getting certain leaders of countries,
so actually admitting it as well. Yes, you know, I did a
memorial piece on Paul Hellier, who was at one point Minister Defense for Canada
back in the late sixties. That was a remarkable piece. I mean I
knew of I've heard of him, I did not know of his extensive history
with exterstrooms and how he was such a brave voice back when he was the
first person holding an office of power to speak of to actually speak of this
and to say they're here, they exist. You can see if you look
up in the sky there as though if you look up in the sky there's
many of them, as you can see your planes above you. And he
really, you know, towards the last years of his life, he was
such an ambassador to bridge and a bridged you know, what he saw as
being the truth and what was happening that they have been here, they live
among us. He was talking about different types of aliens, like I think
he references like twenty four twenty six different types of alien civilizations that are out
there. I mean, I was so amazed at this man. It was
such a beautiful eye opener for me to get to know him through writing this
piece about him. And you know, so certain key people are now starting
to speak and I think he was one of the absolute pioneers of coming forward
he wrote numerous books. I had a guest on Resa you said, there's
over a one hundred that have been visiting us, So I don't doubt that
now, you know, when you hear all these stories, it's it's getting
to be a I think a few years ago, i'd hope there's about fourteen
or fifteen, but now it's gone over one hundred, so I know you're
right, yes, yes, now. And it's like, I remember I
heard somebody's say God, and I forget who it was, but it was
It's like, Okay, how could it be that this, in this entire
universe, with all the planet, star systems and other universes, how is
it that we're the only ones? Yeah, it just doesn't make any sense.
It's like, come on, So, yeah, you know, you've
got to have an open mind, because that's it's like after Clark they said,
it's both terrifying and you know, to think that we're the only ones.
It's a terrifying just to think that we're not the only ones. Yeah,
you're right, it goes both ways. Yeah, I don't know.
I'm I'm so hopeful that I think I think things are going to start to
just unravel and a lot of people are going to feel more comfortable and safe
in talking about things that were very hushed and very covered up. And I
think it's going to be incredible when it happens. I can't wait. I
just hope I'm around and oh, I'm sure you yes, I discovered the
fact that youth when I was in Egypt. That was another thing that happened.
Kiddy. So what are your plans? Are you doing anything this year?
Kathy? You're coming back and coming back to the new council. I
am. I'm coming back to the UK, to Scotland at the end of
August, the beginning of September. I initially was coming over to tie in,
going to Steve Marri's phenomena I'm Sorry Awakenings conference. Yeah, only to
have a cancer and be canceled. And I know those things happened, but
you know, regardless, I had already made my travel plans. I had
already booked my plane tickets. I'm like, what, just like, come
on, something happens. I think there's been some sort of a split up
of personalities there with Steve. Unfortunately with the management. I think there's been
some sort of falling out. So I believe Steve's getting himself back together again,
and I believe he's going to have some remits of his own. So
we'll see. We'll see how that goes. He would be a brilliant guest
for you. Yeah, I mean I like Steve. Well I did ask
him one a little while backer, but he was a bit busy, so
we'll see how it goes. He's wonderful. I love him. He's a
dear friend now, so he is. Yeah, he's getting himself back on
track, and he got his fingers in lots of pies at the moment,
I think, there you go, yeah, juggling. But yeah, no,
I was just thrilled to see Phenomenon magazine come back to and I know
that was not a little bit of a hiatus and so that was that was
good to see. So I hope to hopefully write some more for them,
and yeah, continue to have these crazy experiences. So well, if you're
coming to Scotland, I probably won't get to see you. I know,
we'll see if the conference was going on and it's looking forteous seeing all,
oh, no, there you go like we did last year at the Awakenings
conference, which was fun. I have to see it go for next year
maybe, yeah, let's hope. Yeah. I get to think when things
get back on track that, yeah, the conference circuit will open back up.
That would be nice. Well, as you know, I was over
in the US, so a couple of bottle didn't bump into there either.
Oh you were too busy chasing Elvis when he's chasing up and down and all
over. Yeah. As I said to you earlier, my wife was a
break pleased, a bet on the road trip. She loved where we got,
where we were going and everything, you know, at ninety three and
ninety seven degrees and everything, but she did like the road trips and the
road trips in between. Apart from that, one of these days I'll get
to Graceland. I often thought that you've got to go. You've never been,
Yeah, you never been. No, we actually say we stayed in
the Grace and the hotel. It's fantastic, is it right on the grounds?
It's fantastic. Well, it's just down the road where Graysland is just
walking distance, on the same side of the road, and it's called the
Grayceland Guesthouse. But it's absolutely beautiful, really is Oh wow? Okay,
Yeah, that's on the list. Yeah. Well, I was just glad
to see and you perfect perfectly timed your visit. Is that there were some
legal issues going on. Yeah, that was a scam that someone was trying
to take up. Apparently somebody did on these scams where they said Grayston I
think after Liza Marie died. Unfortunately, Yeah, they just idea, well
we'll try and pull a scam to say that borrow three million dollars. And
they didn't win anyway, I think they had. They had to own up
in the end to say it was all the scared. Yeah. I was
glad to see that shake out to be Okay, good lord, you tell
that. I mean the thing is, I mean Grayston's worth about five hundred
million dollars as I understand it the way things are at the moment, So
that's three million dollars, which is a Japanee really, wasn't it. So
Yeah, yeah, I know when you get down there was no way.
There was no way it was going to be closed down for that. You
know. In fact, why I was there, they didn't even talk about
it. You know, it's only one of the stores I mentioned or set
about what happened there. And she was telling me about it. What's what
happened? It was it was a scam, so but well good to know
that because I couldn't imagine it not being there. It's such an integral part
of history. Now. It's fantastic. But you've you've got to go,
You've got to go on there. I got to get down into the jungle
rum huh. Yes, it's an experience. But anyway, it's been fantastic
having you back on the show and go. Thank you so much for making
your appearance again. And we'll have to do it again at some point.
I tell you, lots of lots of experiences. Yeah, I know.
I do hope to run into hopefully you'll get back to the UK. Maybe
I'll be over the US and then your negative support. You never know.
There you go Plymouth, Massachusetts. Yeah, you give me a holler.
And the funny thing is the Massachusetts so maybe it's something I should put on
the cold It's yeah, well you know we got Salem, Massachusetts with all
the witch trials that happened. Yeah, that's right, that's right. There's
a lot of there's a lot of I know Americans said there's no history in
America, but there's an awful lot of history and like you say, in
the modern history, I guess you'd call it, you know, civil war.
Is it fascinates me actually, the super Yeah, yeah, yeah,
And there's a lot of that, and there's a lot of you know,
paranormal activity around those sites. Yeah, yeah, you know, and I've
had my share when I've been in Salem, and yeah, it's you know,
they're they're they're still alive and kicking, kicking around in some of those
as you know, especially in the battlegrounds like you know, Gettysburg and places
like that. Maybe that's our nick show. We should do witches and all
sorts of stuff like that. I'm yeah, yeah, I suppose they've had
people read me. Who have you know, told me I've had past lives
persecuted and killed. Not technically a witch, but in those days, you
know, if you were a healer, if you were a midwife, you
used herbs, well there you go, you were a witch. I've been
persecuted and hung. Yeah, and I were people just helping people. They
normally exactly, that's all it was. In a one lifetime, I was
a midwife and because of that I was considered a witch. Yeah, So
I mean it's a shame. It's it's a horrible part of human history,
that whole thing. And you all over there had your own I mean,
what happened you It started there and then it came over obviously came over all
the ships because he was around that same period with the night Flower and everything.
It truly came over. Yeah, yep, so yeah, but hey,
that would be a great show. Maybe do it around Halloween. Yeah,
yeah, it's a good idea. Live to sail them. Oh well,
yeah, that would be that would be sure, it could show.
We think that would be fun. Actually, anyway, let you get over
the rest of your day. Thank you so much for coming on. It's
been great talking to you and seeing you. As for paper that are listing
on the radio, okay, actually see on the screen which unfortunately you'll be
sitting. I'll put some photos up, will you do the best banners or
we will put the has the material book what you are holding up. I'll
make a link for that, you know, the hat to material you know
what. I'll send you a picture of that, David, so you can
see the cover ready there so I can get it on Amazon. Anyway.
It doesn't look an interesting book to get actually, but it does. I
was going to read you parts of it because I did a I did an
extensive presentation on that particular experience, and I I didn't want to switch my
screens here in our talks, I thought, because I was going to read
yourself. You know, I'll tell you what you could do. I will
tell you what you could do. You haven't really out, but you could
if you send me screenshots or I'll put it on the Paranormal Dimensions page Facebook.
I can do that, okay, if it's not too difficult for us
to do. But no, hopefully I can just take it from my PowerPoint
presentation. I'll put it on the paranorm Devices page on Facebook. Okay,
yeah, no, it's very interesting stuff. It really is. I was
just like, okay, this is and they address a lot. Yeah,
thank you, David. I'll let you go down, Kavy, thank you
so much for coming on. As I've said again, you take care of
yourself. Care until next time. Okay, until next time. You got
it, Okay, bye bye, bye bye, Thank you, Kathy.
That was fantastic. As always, I've got another extra show for you next
week and it's with my good friend Philip Kinsella. Philip has a new book
out called Terrestrial Trustpasses. We's been there for a couple of months actually,
but it's the first chance I've had to get Philip on. So that'll be
the next show, and that'll be July the fifteenth, on Monday. Of
course, as always, if you'd like to get in touch with me anytime,
my email address is David Young two QN at your whu dot co dot
uk. That's David Young two QN at your hoo dot co dot UK.
So the next show to you, lad of fifteenth an extra with Philip Kinsella,
and that will be shown number two hundred and ten. So until the
next time, take care of everyone. I'll speak to you then bye bye.
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