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For now, let's start today's show. Hello and welcome to the show.

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On this lovely wet summer we're having
in the UK, and after so many

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years of a conservative government, we've
got a labor government, two sides of

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the same coin, but I won't
go into too much of that. Well,

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this show, I've got another Tony
guest for you. She was on

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just just a short time ago,
a few months ago, and her name

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is Kathy Cogliano. Now, at
the end of the last show she mentioned

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about her it is with aliens and
UFOs. So this is the show that

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we're going to be doing now.
So really it's like a part two of

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the previous show. So hope you'll
be looking forward to that, and we

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shall start it right now. So
here we go with Kathy Cogniano. Hio.

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Kathy, welcome back to the show. Hi, David, thank you

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for having me. It's such an
honor in showing you. Well, we

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did this a few months back,
and I can't remember exactly where, but

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it seems like just yesterday. It's
the time has gone so fast. I

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don't know where the time's gone.
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I glad to be here. Yeah, I'm glad you because, I

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mean, when we ended the show, you mentioned something about your particularly your

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alien aliens and UFOs, and we
all thought we perhaps we'll specialize on that

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particular subject for this show because we
went we went down the spiritual route last

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time. Although a lot of it's
all connected anyway, I believe do you

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believe that? Yes, yeah,
but a lot of people see it as

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a completely different subject, which I
once thought it was, but I don't

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think it is one of the you
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of it now. So maybe you'd
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where you'd like to go with it, and you know, particularly yeah,

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exactly where you know, David.
For me, all this started as a

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child. So my first encounter with
an extraterrestrial was happened back when I was

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a kid in fourth grade and my
dad was in the Marine Corps. We

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were stationed at a nuclear sub base
in New London, Connecticut, and I

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you know, we lived on base. So one morning I was walking to

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school and it was interesting how this
now happens for me. I was by

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myself, whereas I have a brother
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know, at least the three of
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to school together. That particular morning, I was by myself, and so

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as I approached the school ahead of
me, I could see the school in

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the distance, and all of a
sudden I looked up and there's this huge

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cigar shaped craft just hovering there right
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and where the school was. So
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when I think back to it,
and it was cigar shaped, it had

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kind of black edges that appeared to
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It was total silence, no sound, and the morning sunlight glinted off of

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this craft that was almost blinding,
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And it was interesting because I stood
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at this going what in God's name? And all of a sudden I have

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the feeling that I'm going to be
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sudden, I look up, the
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school. So I mean, you
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that, but you know, it's
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latest documentaries out there, especially the
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of the aerial school situation in Zimbabwe
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again set at a school with like
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a craft, but the craft landing
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know, so it's interesting. And
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where kids are having experiences at schools. I know there's another case I believe

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in Wales. It was that we
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in the Nazis I think so too. Yeah, I think you're right.

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So it's it's interesting that all this
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that connection because I had the great
good fortune of meeting to Aames Fox,

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who did you know, numerous documentaries
now on the subject, and in his

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moment of contact, well that was
our ginia. But you know, he

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does he speaks about the aerial school
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so he's been exposed to the uh, you know, the phenomenal phenomena

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of you know, these school sightings. So it so I shared my story

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with him at the time when he
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I was part of. And you
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is a connection there with kids,
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like in the Aerial Phenomenon documentary to
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the same story and draw the same
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because their kids their minds aren't exposed
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and you know, I'm gonna you
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you know, So that's you know. That impressed me when I saw that

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documentary just actually just the other day
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drawing and speaking about what they saw. There was no embellishment, you know.

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So yeah, so for me,
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you know, not only the extraterrestrial
connection, but also you know, as

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a kid the paranormal for me,
so you know, I can communicate to

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spirit. I've had some amazing experiences
over the many years, and in a

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lot of my experiences I've shared in
Phenomenon magazine and Outer Limits magazine, and

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so it's been a wild rage which
I've loved. So and here I am

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with you. So how you know
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as well? So that experience,
do you feel that you may have had

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any abduction? David? I wonder
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I mean there was that distinct feeling
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ran and I was late for school. But you know, here's the interesting

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thing. I never told my parents
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the military. And when you you
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kind of talk to other folks that
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lot of times, there's a common
denominator that these people say, like myself,

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you know, one or more of
their parents are in the military.

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There's a military connection quite often.
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sub base, that was a huge
connection because that New London, Connecticut sub

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base if you google it, it
has a long history of a lot of

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craft siting there. So there's always
that nuclear connection too. So yeah,

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it's you know, I have I
have all of those connections, and I

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just you know it, I'm just
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and you know, and being guided
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I had all these syn synchronicities line
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and it was there or I just
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did a two part series of my
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on many levels, and you know, they were publishing in Phenomenon magazine.

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It was Egypt a Soul's Journey.
So it was a two part series.

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You know what do you know what
issue that was in Chance? Oh,

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it was last year. It was
last March and April of twenty twenty three.

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They were back to back is year. Yeah, it was it was

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a fascinating trip. And so the
best part of that whole big story,

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and it's a big story, is
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I had a birthday, so this
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a reading by a medium and she, you know, she's used to communicating

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with everybody's loved ones in spirit.
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I had all my guides come through. So there there are multiple guides I

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have. It's it's it's a whole
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and goddesses and oh yeah. And
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she's she's seeing all these guides,
and she says, Kathy, they want

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me to tell you that three things
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in Egypt. And I'll never forget
this. I'm taking notes. And she

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said, you're going to have so
retrieval, You're going to experience sole retrieval,

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astral travel, and an alien encounter. Wow. Did okay? How

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God's name is any of that gonna
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what kind of thing? Ease?
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and telling you something like that,
she's really sticking her neck out, because

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that's quite a lot of events too, you're gonna be looking out for,

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yes, and you know, sticking
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she was not used to getting this
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to say, talking to my grandfather
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know, so it was very interesting
for her to go into their energy and

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be able to, you know,
share this message from them. And I'm

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going to tell you, David,
all three things happened. I mean,

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it was such a remarkable trip on
absolutely every level. You know. You

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know, I have numerous past lives
in Egypt, and you know some of

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those came through just and and then
honestly, what happened in the Great Pyramid,

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it was like, you know,
I had experience out experience all throughout

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Egypt and all these incredible temples.
Have you ever been to Egypt? No,

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I'd love to go. You've got
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It truly does. It's a light
of altering expense. My wife, but

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I've said so, I'd love to
go, but she said, I'll have

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a lot to go to Egypt.
My wife does, she because of I

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know, I think it's the well, excuse me if it's any Egyptians listened

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to this. But so she doesn't
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although she knows it. Ay,
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know, yeah, oh, it's
very different from from from where we are,

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you know, either the states here
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very different culture, it really is. And for me it was almost shocking

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how in many ways certain parts of
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You're back three thousand years ago.
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of those now tributaries and you've got
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who are and I witnessed this little
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this tributary, and what goes floating
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Yeah, that's that's exactly what I
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a very big divide, isn't there. You've got the rich people which really

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just keep everything to themselves and they
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a bit like India. Actually,
we went to India twice and the culture

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there is very similar, I would
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but maybe the people a little bit
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least, it's magical. You know, I felt the minute I stepped off,

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you know, our bus to get
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was stepping onto the Motherland for me. It's just that term came into my

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head. I felt like I returned
home. So much of where we went

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throughout, I felt like I'd been
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was that kind of your first experience
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the reincarnation part of it? No, I've known of past lives. It's

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it's it's funny. So I'm very
lucky in that for about four years I

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had a very powerful teacher come on
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He would he would speak to me
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that I either had full recall of
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remember part of it, or you
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say, okay, this, you've
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he did reference that I have had
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had that conversation prior to me going. He wouldn't tell me about the past

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life. You know, he didn't
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set anything up, so to say. But No, throughout a lot of

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my travels, David, it's interesting, I'm guided to go to places that

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are very spiritual. They hold a
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the UK, you know a bury
stonehenge, I mean, you name it.

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I'm guided to go to these certain
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ten I have recall of a past
life there. So there's there's a reason

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why I guess my guides want me
back there. You know, I've experienced

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some very interesting things when I'm back
in these places that I've had a past

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life then, and I've written about
them. I've shared a few of these

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journeys, but I got to tell
you the one in Egypt is just beyond

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and then to truly have you know, literally I had the sole retrieval piece

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happen, you know, I had
the astro travel piece happen when I got

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back home, and I also had
an alien encounter. So I mean,

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I in a thousand years would I
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Never? But they did, so
it's remarkable. So I guess I

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thought, you know, if you
want, I'll share you know what have

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I I could take like three hours, but you know, I just thought,

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maybe, you know, just the
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to that alien encounter, because that's
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was that over spaced of lot two
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Egypt for two weeks two weeks so
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the major temples and it was remarkable. You know. I got to say,

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you know, some of the experiences
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they're extremely intense, one in particular. And and then to top it

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off, because you know, our
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day we went to the Great Pyramids, you know, to the Giza Plateau

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and you know, saw the Sphinx
God. That is remarkable to stand there

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at the you know, between the
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it you see you know, the
Great Pyramids. It's just magical. Do

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you say it on film? Unfortunately, but I can get there. It

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is well worth it. It is
it's as I said, it's truly life

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changing for a lot of people,
and for me it was, uh,

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it was something I just you know, just even going up into the Great

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Pyramid is you just don't you know
when you see pictures of it, there's

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there's no set doorway there to speak
of. It's not, oh yeah,

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what's a doorway. No, it's
it's almost like this really rough cut out

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opening that you have to climb up
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Where even been built. It's actually
amazing because of the white. The white

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that's actually resting on the portals of
the door, shouldn't really be able to

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hold it up, should it,
you know, right, David, You're

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right, it's it's it's mind boggling. The whole thing is mind boggling.

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myself, Okay, so if this
structure was in the US, it would

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be lit up, it would have
flashing lights, it would it would just

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be it would not just be this
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seven Wonders of the ancient world,
just sitting there in its original form,

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not you know, original carved out
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So it's very funny, you know, to look at it that way

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compared to what you know, how
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but it was. It's it's very
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three thousand years ago, and you
know, we we As you go

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in, you ascend this set of
stairs and it's in this carved out tunnel

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and you've got to crunch down and
really climb up. So I often thought

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to myself, Okay, if you
were like a really tall person, your

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back would kill you because you're going
like straight up. And it's you know,

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this series of stairs that you crunch
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You get up, and then you
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again, another ascension up, and
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And the King's Chamber is the first
thing that strikes you is how vast it

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is. And the second thing that
strikes you is that it's these huge cut

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tons of stone, you know,
big stone slabs that are all stacked and

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connected so smoothly. You couldn't even
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of these stones. It was that
precise. And then the other thing I

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noticed and I was almost shocked,
is that there's no adornment in the king's

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chamber at all, nor in the
Queen's chamber, no adornment, no paint,

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no hieroglyphs, nothing. And so
we've spent almost two weeks going through

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Egypt in the most stunning temples that
are nothing but higher glyphs and nothing but

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painted and must have been spectacular in
their original forms. And you know,

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so here you are and this very
stark, huge rectangular room with this huge,

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big ceiling. It's it's incredible.
And then as I walked into the

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space, I stood there, and
then ahead of you is with this back

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light and creating this very dramatic effect, is the sarcophagus that's there. That

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is the only thing in that room
is this red granite stone sarcophagus that's set

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down the you know, ahead of
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so as you walk in, you're
facing it. And I thought to

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myself, David, alms to God. I stood there and I thought,

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oh my god, I've been here
before. It was the freakiest feeling,

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and my heart was like pounding.
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the edges of the of the of
the room, and one by one I

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had actually traveled, i should say, to Egypt with William Henry from ancient

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Aliens. So yeah, with this
your wife Claire, there were probably I

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think, I want to say,
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And so we had a private time
in the Great Pyramid, which is

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remarkable. Normally you're surrounded by could
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here we did have this beautiful time
to ourselves. So one by one we

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went up and had time lying down
in the sarcophagus, having like an initiates

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experience, as that chamber was used
for thousands of years ago. And you

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know, everybody was kind of going
and I just I heard this voice in

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my head say you have to go
last. So I'm like, okay,

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So I've learned to listen to those
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flagged down William and Clay and I
said, do you mind if I go

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last? And I'm like, you
even know, sure, go ahead.

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So everybody else in my group goes
up and gets their time lying down in

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the sarcophagus and then I go and
again it's like something took over my body.

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I can't tell you what it was. I remember I walked up to

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the sarcophagus, I did. I
stepped into it, and I turned around

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and I faced my group and I
bowed to them and acknowledged them. They

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were sitting in what would be considered
north. I Claire was on my left,

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William on my right, and then
a friend of mine, Carol,

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came up behind us. So on
the four corners, you know, we

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had north, southeast, and west. And I vowed to eat one of

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them. And it was like an
audible gasp in my group. And then

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I lied down in the sarcophagus and
David I went somewhere else. I went

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out of my body. My last
conscious thought was literally, I I am

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no longer breathing well, and I
don't have any to this day. I

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do believe at some point I will
get the recall back. I don't have

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full recall as to where I went, although I do know I went out

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of my body, as did some
of the others in my group, you

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know, having spoke to them years
later. Yeah, yeah, And so

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it was interesting because then all of
a sudden, I mean, God knows

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where I was, and then William, you know, my time was up.

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We had, know, just a
certain amount of time, and he

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shakes, he had to shake my
feet to get wake me up, and

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I could literally feel myself swish back
into my body. It was the craziest

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thing. And then I could barely
stand up. I was so disorientated.

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So they helped me to stand up. What I'm worried about, you that

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maybe a postale or something or I
you know, I don't know. It

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just I seem to have been in
there a little bit of a time and

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they you know, he really had
to shake me. But yeah, so

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I get out and I'm I'm really
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This is what it felt like.
I had one world, you know,

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foot in this world, and I
felt like I had another foot in

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the other world as I stepped out
of that sarcophagus. And it's interesting because

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you know, in my studies over
the years there the Great Pyramid was one

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of the great mystery schools, and
that is what was taught of what they

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call living resurrection, of going in
and they would use that sarcophagus as part

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of the mystery school process of doing
this resurrection exercise where you learn to literally

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die, you learn to die,
You go off and your body leaves its

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physical body, and it does travel
into the asteroid planes. But yet you're

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taught how to come back and have
your living resurrection. You don't die,

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you come back. So all that
was so interesting to have actually had that

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experience and the feeling of having been
there before was just incredible. And so,

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you know, as I get out
of these sarcophagus, I was being

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the last one. Most of my
group had gone down to the Queen's chamber.

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So you kind of descend down those
stairs, you crawl up, you

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descend down backwards to go back down
into the Queen's chamber, and I,

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you know, get my bearings,
and I, you know, Claire comes

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up and says, Kenthy, come
on, come on, we're down in

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the Queen's chamber. And I go
down and one of our Egyptian guides,

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hot team, who was wonderful.
He was almost like a personal guy.

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I'd watched for me because I was
having all these crazy experiences, and he

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could see me. He said to
me when we were in a great pyramid,

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he's he points to his third eye
and he says to me, I

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see you. You were an initiate
here. So I'm like, so everything

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I was feeling he validated. I
mean, he's he claimed he could see

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and I believe him. I mean, he's he felt very familiar to me

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with the minute we first met,
and he kind of, you know,

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he he literally helped me through a
few experiences I was having throughout our trip,

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and that being one of them in
the sarcophagus, and so then you

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know, he he kind of you
know, allowed me to stay back and

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kind of catch my breath and get
my bearings, and and then I go

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down to the Queen's chamber. Good
lord. So as I go down,

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you know again you're going backwards down
the flighty stairs, and then you go

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into the Queen's chamber. It's a
very small opening. You gotta again,

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I'm five three, you gotta like
dunk down and go into the Queen's chamber,

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and again you're struck with it's it's
just all stone. There's no adornment.

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into the left and and they theorize
that you know, back in the day

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they probably held you know, the
statue of one of the gods, probably

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a Nubis, the god of the
dead, but they never ever have found

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or any evidence of any pharaoh or
queen being buried there in the Great Movement.

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But as you go into the Queen's
chamber, it's not much smaller,

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still very high ceiling, but again
no adornment, no paint. And so

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I just I find that just fascinating
because everywhere else, everything they built,

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they adorned, and it's fascinating,
you know, to see the beautiful hieroglyphs

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and everything they're depicted in their entire
history. You know, any of the

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pharaohs, you know that that's what
they use, the higher goph scores.

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They told their story, you know, about their rain and whatnot. And

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so in the Queen's chamber, as
I go dunk down and go into that

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doorway, I look to the left
and then I look to the right,

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and my group is kind of ahead
of me. Everybody's real busy, you

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know, just kind of checking some
things out. Some folks had already left

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to go back up to the King's
chamber, and I am drawn, like

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I can't tell you to go to
the right, and I'm drawn to go

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to an air shaft that is right
there on the wall as you walk in.

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If you ever see. There's a
photograph out there of the Queen's chamber.

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You can see the doorway that you
go in, and you can see

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the niche on the left, and
you can see this airshaft. It's the

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northern airshaft. There's two in there, and I'm drawn to the one to

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the right, now, drawn so
much so that literally I walk over to

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this thing and I put my face
in this ancient airshaft. Now, good

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God Almighty, I have no idea
why or what that thlot was, but

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I'm doing it. I'm just following. It's like again something took over,

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and I walk up and I put
my face in. And it's interesting because

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the height of that air shaft is
about five three I mean, I could

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literally stand there and just put my
face into it. And immediately, I

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you know, obviously I sense,
you know, it's pitch blackness, but

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I could see the tunnel, you
know, the sides tunneling down, and

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then it's absolute total blackness. And
as I stood there, I'm thinking to

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myself, Okay, why am I
doing this? And then I and that

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thought quickly goes by when all of
a sudden, as I look down to

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the very darkest depths, this light
appears and it's this beautiful shade of this

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red pink. And as I look
at this light, it starts to take

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a shape, and it's taking the
shape of what looked to me like an

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arched window. I mean it's fully
arched, straight bottom, and I'm thinking,

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the how's going on here? And
it's again it's light. It's this

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beautiful shade of pink light. So
I'm standing there. I have no fear.

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I'm just kind of watching what's happening. When all of a sudden,

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David, this rounded thing, what
obviously looked like the top of the bald

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head, starts rising up and it
comes up and up from the bottom of

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this arched window, and it was
this being. He was this beautiful shade

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of very light blue green. And
I'm watching this being come up and it

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comes up but bup. So now
I see a full head. And what's

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interesting the head is oval this way
side to side over, unlike the gray

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like this I'm American football shirt,
Yeah, exactly perfect, and I see

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these like what looks like little ears
they had. You know, he had

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these big eyes, but not as
big as a gray, so they didn't

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feel his whole head but big,
and I didn't notice a nose, I

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didn't really notice a mouth, and
I I just I just stood there and

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I had absolutely no fear. So
here he's got this head going side to

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side at oval. He's a very
thin, long neck and small, very

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delicate looking shoulders. So I'm only
seeing him from from here up. And

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I had no fear, no fear. And what emanated from this being David

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was nothing but sheer, happiness,
happiness and love. I mean, even

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when I speak of this and I
recall this, and it is an overwhelming

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feeling of love came from this being
and happy. And then he started to

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talk to me telepathically, and he
said to me that he was so happy

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that they could now show themselves to
me, and that I would not be

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afraid. And I can remember laughing
and smiling at this, going I've got

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afraid, and he just smiled,
you know. I mean, it's just

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like his happiness. I mean,
not that his smile smile, but it's

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like I could almost see a smile, ye, yeah, exactly. And

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I just thought, my god,
what is going on here? I mean,

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I should be screaming and running out
of here, but I know,

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I mean I was just like in
awe of what I was feeling. And

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then he said to me, they
come in peace and do not mean us

408
00:32:43,759 --> 00:32:47,079
any harm. He tells me that
they have been here before to help mankind.

409
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,920
They walked the earthplane with us and
helped establish our ancient civilizations, in

410
00:32:53,000 --> 00:33:00,839
particular ancient Egypt. And then he
told me, you know, don't be

411
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,279
afraid. He said, We're glad
you're not afraid, but that we will

412
00:33:04,319 --> 00:33:08,400
come back. We will come back
to see you. And then he started

413
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:14,240
to dissolve, so he kind of
dissolved, the light dissolved. I just

414
00:33:14,759 --> 00:33:17,240
took my face out of that airshaft
and I thought, oh my god,

415
00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:22,519
what just happened. I almost couldn't
wrap my mind around it. And by

416
00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:27,759
that point, all the others had
left the Queen's chamber and they went back

417
00:33:27,839 --> 00:33:30,759
up to the King's chamber, so
I'm by myself. So in a way,

418
00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:34,160
I'm glad because I was able to
just stand there and just absorb what

419
00:33:34,359 --> 00:33:37,519
just happened, and again no fear. I was just like, Okay,

420
00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:42,400
I think I'm kind of one of
the luckiest people ever to have had this

421
00:33:42,559 --> 00:33:47,599
encounter. Oh my god. And
I didn't tell any of my travelers,

422
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:52,119
fellow travelers. I don't know why. I just I just kept it off

423
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,920
to my Why wou't you not tell
them? Tell me? I can't tell

424
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,839
you, honestly, God cannot tell
you other than I just think it affected

425
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:07,039
me so deeply that I had this
encounter. And again, there is and

426
00:34:07,319 --> 00:34:09,519
you mentioned it earlier, there is
a spiritual connection to all of this,

427
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,559
and there's a paranormal connection to all
of this. Do you feel sorry?

428
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:20,079
Do you feel that like maybe wouldn't
have believed you or something, or oh

429
00:34:20,079 --> 00:34:22,719
there's always that oh God, yeah, yep, yep. So I do

430
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:27,400
believe that's part of it. But
yet at the time, David, so

431
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,199
that was pretty much our last day
in Egypt. So the next day we're

432
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:32,639
all leaving each other, our flying
home. So I just sat with that

433
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:38,159
and kept that to myself. I
didn't speak about that for a very long

434
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:42,519
time to anybody. And I think
because like you just said, there is

435
00:34:42,559 --> 00:34:45,840
an element of especially, well,
this is back in twenty fourteen. You

436
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:50,400
know, you weren't having all these
people coming forward now like we do,

437
00:34:50,599 --> 00:34:54,119
you know, telling their of their
experiences and encounters and all that. And

438
00:34:54,440 --> 00:35:00,920
I just I just kind of kept
it to myself and then and the interesting

439
00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:07,599
part is my fellow travelers up in
the King's Chamber. As I am acclimating

440
00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:12,880
myself down on the Queen's chamber,
still I hear them toning. And we've

441
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,719
been to sacred sites where some of
the women will tone and it's usually a

442
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,760
beautiful thing to hear. Well,
they all started toning, and it was

443
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,000
everybody that was up there. In
fact, William Henry did take a recording

444
00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:30,440
of this. It was remarkable.
I stood there and my first thought was,

445
00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:37,800
oh my god, this is other
worldly. And I my second thought

446
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,639
was, this is the music of
the sphears. I mean, this is

447
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:44,840
like, oh my god. There
was an element of it, not of

448
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:51,119
it being of another world truly.
And so I do have a copy of

449
00:35:51,159 --> 00:35:55,400
this and I will periodically listen to
it. It's remarkable. There's a point

450
00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:01,559
where something takes over these human toning
voice. There's another layer that comes in.

451
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,800
So it was you know, I
got to tell you that term to

452
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:12,440
Egypt was remarkable. And to have
that be the grand finale, you know,

453
00:36:12,639 --> 00:36:16,199
have that having that extrarestrial encounter in
the Great Pyramid in the Queen's taper

454
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:22,800
was like Wow, Okay, do
you feel they might have been using that

455
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:29,519
as a potl or do you think
that they actually resulte this somehow? Yep,

456
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,599
I do think so. David,
Yes, you know, I you

457
00:36:32,639 --> 00:36:37,800
know, when he tells me how
they have been here and helped to establish

458
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:42,679
the ancient Civilisa, I didn't question
anything that being said to me, did

459
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,480
not question anything. It almost as
though it confirmed for me. I was

460
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:52,280
having these feelings myself whenever I read
about this type of stuff, and to

461
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,679
have him come, you know,
and then to have this encounter David in

462
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,880
the Great Pyramid doesn't get by me, you know, with my Egyptian connection

463
00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:04,800
to pest lives, with my connections
with the extraterrestrials, you know, I

464
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,360
mean, God, I can't tell
you all the ships I see, and

465
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,880
it's just like there is a connection
there. So for this being to use

466
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:16,840
the Great Pyramid of Egypt, I
find fascinating to communicate to me that it

467
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:22,679
all connected. It almost was like
it connected all the dots and then was

468
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:30,280
interesting. And the story continues because
when I got home, my dear friend

469
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,800
Linda, who couldn't wait to go
out to lunch to hear all about my

470
00:37:34,599 --> 00:37:39,039
travels in Egypt. So we meet
for lunch and I tell her about what

471
00:37:39,159 --> 00:37:43,039
happened in the Great Pyramid and Linda
is, Oh, my god, what

472
00:37:43,079 --> 00:37:45,760
a beautiful soul she was, and
very awake. She's a medium, she

473
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:51,760
channels, and so she she just
was like soaked up my story. And

474
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,000
then she sat there and she said
to me, have you ever heard of

475
00:37:55,079 --> 00:37:59,119
Tom Kenyon? And I looked at
her. I was like, no,

476
00:37:59,199 --> 00:38:02,639
I've never heard him. Who is
he? And she said, she pulls

477
00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:05,920
out a book and I've got the
book here. I know, you know,

478
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,880
it won't be seen during our interview, but I do have the book.

479
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:14,320
It's called The Half Orne Material.
And what strikes me is when she

480
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,360
pulled out this book at our lunch
and shows me this book. I was

481
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:22,559
a guest because the being that's depicted
on the cover of this book is exactly

482
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:29,039
what I saw in the Great Pyramid. And I went and so the fact

483
00:38:29,079 --> 00:38:32,440
that she had this book, I'm
like what. She opens the book and

484
00:38:32,559 --> 00:38:39,880
she just, you know, starts
basically describing the being I saw. And

485
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:45,159
what Tom Kenyon does, along with
his partner Virginia, has seen, is

486
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:54,360
they they they channeled the halth Thors, These beings that I saw the half

487
00:38:54,400 --> 00:39:04,559
Thors. They channel them, and
it is is remarkable in that everything that

488
00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:08,599
they talk about, that they are
masters of sound, that they come in

489
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:14,800
love and care, they watch over
us as a civilization. They talked about

490
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,880
exactly what the message was I got
in the Great Pyramid, that they helped

491
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:23,039
establish our ancient civilizations, in particular
the mystery schools in Egypt and all over

492
00:39:23,079 --> 00:39:32,760
the world. And I mean I
I was speechless when when she started to

493
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:37,760
read to me parts to this book, and it was as though, I

494
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:44,599
mean, talk about synchronicities. I
mean to go and have this launch and

495
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:50,760
have her up this book looking at
you said that profound effects on you.

496
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,760
Oh my god. And I yeah, and and and you know, I

497
00:39:58,119 --> 00:40:01,960
would say to anybody who's listening,
you know, google that book. Read

498
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:08,119
that book. I went back and
I have since read it different parts of

499
00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:15,519
it. They have some amazing healing
techniques they share with you, some of

500
00:40:15,519 --> 00:40:22,440
them I've incorporated. They just I
mean, they were an incredible extraterrestrial group

501
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:29,719
of beings that you know, they're
here to help us. And I do

502
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:35,119
feel that, you know, hopefully
I believe they will be that they that

503
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,840
they are helping to protect us from
ourselves. Now, how sad is that

504
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:44,159
a statement to make? But it's
true, especially exactly David, with our

505
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:51,360
nuclear capabilities and everything, it is
there they will be here to help us.

506
00:40:51,559 --> 00:40:54,119
So I I, you know,
I put my hope in them that

507
00:40:54,159 --> 00:41:00,119
they will, in fact, you
know, help protect us literally from ourselves.

508
00:41:00,679 --> 00:41:06,079
Where am actually where are actually from? I think is that a plenty

509
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,760
dimensional? Yeah? They they They
say that they came to us through uh

510
00:41:12,199 --> 00:41:17,119
serious, and that not only did
they help the ancient Egyptian civilization, but

511
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:22,480
also others, the Palladians, the
Syrians. So there there was, there

512
00:41:22,559 --> 00:41:29,800
was, There's been a whole group
of these exterrestrial civilizations that have come through

513
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:35,639
and helped throughout our you know,
our you know, establishing who we are.

514
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,519
And they're they're still there, you
know, they're still there helping us,

515
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:44,840
you know, working through people like
Tom Kenyon, and I believe they

516
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:49,519
even working through even some little person
like me. You know that that any

517
00:41:49,559 --> 00:41:53,159
of us out there that have had
contact, I really do believe now is

518
00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:58,480
the time to step up and talk
about it and I and I will acknowledge

519
00:41:58,519 --> 00:42:01,400
that I I, you know,
I'm blessed to have had a very good

520
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:06,480
experience with these half our beings.
I do know friends, and I know

521
00:42:06,519 --> 00:42:10,480
we have friends in common who have
not had good experiences with the extraterrestrials.

522
00:42:10,679 --> 00:42:17,159
And I'm very aware of that.
And but you know, though, I

523
00:42:17,199 --> 00:42:21,320
think we need to talk about all
of it, you know, have those

524
00:42:21,559 --> 00:42:27,239
hard conversations, and then hopefully have
the conversation where I learned of you know,

525
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:32,000
these beings that they they truly do
care and say that they come in

526
00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:37,159
love. You know. I know
that sounds naive, but that was the

527
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:43,079
message. That wasn't my words,
that was their words, and I experienced

528
00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:45,760
it firsthand, the love and the
piece that came from this being. So

529
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:51,440
that's where I hold out my hope
is that these these good beings, these

530
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,679
good extraterrestrials, are out there watching
over us. And you called yourself,

531
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,639
but it me just a little while
ago. I don't believe. I believe

532
00:43:00,679 --> 00:43:06,000
that maybe you've you've got an ancient
connection and perhaps you're here for that purpose,

533
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,360
you know, to pass the world
and to make those connections. Thank

534
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,679
you, David. I think so, you know, And and then I

535
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,639
say to someone like yourself, you're
a big part of this plan. You

536
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,239
have a platform. You're allowing people
like myself to come on to have a

537
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,719
voice, which is very, very
important. So I thank you for what

538
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,920
you're doing. And I know you've
had many others on your show that have

539
00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:36,960
had similar or interesting you know,
contact and stories and connections and and again,

540
00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:39,639
it is all connected, you know, the spiritual, the paranormal,

541
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:46,119
the you know, the extraterrestrial.
I really do believe we're waking up to

542
00:43:46,159 --> 00:43:53,039
realize it is all connected and that
we have never been alone. I fully

543
00:43:53,079 --> 00:44:00,880
believe that we have never been alone. Yeah, so it uh So the

544
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:06,400
end of this big story is that
when I got home. So remember I

545
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:10,559
mentioned there were three things that were
spoken of that I would experience. So

546
00:44:10,559 --> 00:44:17,679
soul retrieval happened throughout Egypt. I
was recalling multiple past lives. Obviously,

547
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:24,960
the extraterrestrial connection, our alien connection
happened, and so the actual travel piece

548
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:30,880
happened when I got home. So
I, oh, this is probably about

549
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:36,119
a month after I returned home.
I'm lying in bed, just me and

550
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,679
the dog was asleep in you know, at the other side of the bed,

551
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:46,239
and all of a sudden, these
light beings come into my room and

552
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:52,559
I knew I was awake, and
my first thought was, Okay, it's

553
00:44:52,639 --> 00:44:57,360
not a dream. And they come
down and they I have one take me

554
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,960
under one arm. One come and
take me under the their arm, and

555
00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:05,280
up through the house we go.
And I say light being because I almost

556
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,079
want to say angel, but it's
I think they appeared to me in a

557
00:45:08,119 --> 00:45:12,840
way that I wouldn't be afraid,
So I kind of think of them as

558
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,280
like an angel or a light being. But up we go. We're up

559
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:20,400
in the universe and we're traveling.
I know this sounds extremely phanto fantasyful.

560
00:45:20,639 --> 00:45:23,280
I've just I've heard I've heard things
before, so really, David, oh

561
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,800
my god, I'm so glad to
hear that. And we're going, we're

562
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,360
flying, we're going through the universe, and I can remember the feeling very

563
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,159
cold, and mind you, I'm
just like in a night dress, right,

564
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,880
and We're going through the universe,
and I can remember noticing the stunning

565
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:43,280
beauty of it, you know,
of seeing the star systems, of seeing

566
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,400
it all. And then we start
to descend, and I can remember I

567
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:51,519
looked down and I went, oh
my god, this is Egypt. This

568
00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:55,639
is the Great Pyramids are down below
us. We've swoopen They've got me.

569
00:45:55,880 --> 00:46:00,920
We go in through this oh small
opening the very top of the Great Pyramid,

570
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:06,880
and we come into the King's chamber
and they land me down on my

571
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:12,880
feet on the back end of the
sarcophagus. And when I settle and turn

572
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:17,840
around, I am looking at a
room full of all of my guides,

573
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:22,360
most of them my Egyptian guides.
The isis you know, Horus, I

574
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:27,079
mean, you name it, They're
all there. Then I see, I

575
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:35,840
know this sounds crazy. I see
directly behind the sarcophagus Jesus to his left,

576
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:42,800
his mother Mary to his right,
Mary Magdalen, And I'm going,

577
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,679
what a in in God's name?
And so these light beings. Literally I'm

578
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:51,320
standing there facing this group. They
take off my night dress I remember going,

579
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,599
and then as quick as that happened, I had this white robe put

580
00:46:54,639 --> 00:47:01,599
on me, and they turned me
to face this group, and they bend

581
00:47:01,639 --> 00:47:07,119
me backwards over the sycophagus. I
mean, David, as I talked to

582
00:47:07,159 --> 00:47:08,320
you about this, it's like a
movie. I can see it as clear

583
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:13,800
as day. They bend me over
the sycophagus. Uh, there's a liquid

584
00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:19,840
poured onto the ground of my head. And then I'm quickly and words were

585
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,719
said, and again I don't fully
recall what was said, but I do

586
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:28,239
know it was like an initiation.
It was a ceremony like a baptism,

587
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:34,599
and I'm write it. Back up, off comes the white rope, Back

588
00:47:34,639 --> 00:47:38,320
on comes the nightcam, and they
again take me under each arm. We

589
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:43,960
go back up and out the way
we came, and I'm back in my

590
00:47:44,039 --> 00:47:50,400
bed like that. And the first
absolute thought I had, you know,

591
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:55,079
and then those beings are gone,
is that, Okay, I wasn't dreaming.

592
00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:00,559
And I know that sounds crazy that
your first was that, yeah,

593
00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:04,880
oh, I wasn't dreaming. And
that's the thing that I had a hard

594
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,280
time kind of wrapped my mind around, like but wait, how does that

595
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:14,320
even happen? But it did.
And again that was the third thing predicted

596
00:48:15,079 --> 00:48:20,239
was the astral travel. So it
was the astral travel back to Egypt to

597
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:25,800
have what I believe was an initiation
that I had had in other lifetimes there

598
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:30,880
as part of the mystery school that
for some reason they wanted me to relive

599
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:36,679
that, to be aware of it
and to know that I had a part

600
00:48:37,199 --> 00:48:40,440
in this in a past lifetime.
And you know, through some of my

601
00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:46,039
studies there are and other people have
written about this and talked about this,

602
00:48:46,519 --> 00:48:53,360
that Jesus, Mother Mary, Mary
Magdalen, they all had gone through the

603
00:48:53,360 --> 00:49:00,840
Mystery schools in Egypt. They had
spent time in Egypt, and they were

604
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:04,679
initiated in the Great parent in yeah, in the Great Pyramid as well,

605
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,559
and as well as in the Temple
of Heliopolis. That was where Mary Magdalene

606
00:49:09,639 --> 00:49:14,840
and Mother Mary, that's where they
were high priestesses. So I mean,

607
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:21,079
it just it's amazing to me,
David, the connection for our our whole

608
00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:25,519
human kind, our planet, our
world can go back to Egypt. Egypt

609
00:49:25,559 --> 00:49:31,360
seems to be a common denominator.
And even with you know, you know,

610
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:36,400
Jesus and Mary Magdalene, you know, I know that's the Catholic construct.

611
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,440
You know, they are part of
the Catholic construct. And I grew

612
00:49:38,519 --> 00:49:45,800
up as a Catholic. But they
they even had time in Egypt. They

613
00:49:45,079 --> 00:49:52,880
you know, and and and even
you know when Marry mother of Jesus and

614
00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:58,639
Joseph had to flee Egypt and I'm
sorry, flee the Holy country, flee

615
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:06,559
Lea Jeru when they were killing the
firstborn children. They fled to Egypt.

616
00:50:07,199 --> 00:50:14,400
And I had traveled the Holy Land. And then in particular, I was

617
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:20,519
guided to go to this Coptic church
in Egypt when I was there, and

618
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:25,360
in the basement of this Coptic church
is a carved out like cave effect that

619
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:31,639
you walk down these ancient stone steps, and this was where you're told that

620
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:38,719
the Holy Family hid was underneath this
original structure. It wasn't a church back

621
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:45,000
then because the Catholic sure, Catholic
religion had not come to be at that

622
00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:51,239
point, but it was it was
an ancient temple that they hid while they

623
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:55,840
were going through Egypt. So it's
fascinating the connections that thread through all of

624
00:50:55,880 --> 00:51:00,280
this that then go back to Egypt. Well, I think I think I

625
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:05,119
thought when you said you went into
the sarcophagus, do you not feel that

626
00:51:05,119 --> 00:51:08,760
that was an actual travel as well? I think you're right. Yeah,

627
00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,360
I mean I did go somewhere,
although you say you got no memories of

628
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,639
that, but you say you kind
of zone there or passed there or whatever,

629
00:51:16,679 --> 00:51:20,800
it seems that you had a nactual
travel there actually, I think,

630
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,760
not just when you came back.
Yeah, I think you're right. And

631
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:28,239
again, you know they foretold it
the astral travel piece, so you're right,

632
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:32,039
it happened twice. Yeah, And
here's the interesting thing. My dear

633
00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:37,480
friend Michael, he has a show
here in the UK, I'm sorry,

634
00:51:37,519 --> 00:51:43,360
in the US, and he traveled
with me to Egypt. So we were,

635
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,960
you know, one of the seventeen
you know, each of us.

636
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:50,039
And so when I did his show, and this goes back, I want

637
00:51:50,039 --> 00:51:52,719
to say, this was either earlier
this year or the late of last year,

638
00:51:52,199 --> 00:51:54,760
and I was a guest. We
just we had such a great time

639
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:59,599
just sharing our stories about Egypt.
What I did not know is that he

640
00:51:59,679 --> 00:52:04,599
had the exact same experience I had
in the sarcophagus, but he could recall

641
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:09,239
what happened to him. So he
left his body he had and went to

642
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:15,559
this room where he had an initiation
with the same people that were at the

643
00:52:15,559 --> 00:52:22,239
initiation I had when I asked or
traveled back. So he was probably in

644
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:27,320
the mystery schools as well, and
that he had that experience in the sarcophagus,

645
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,679
but yet he remembered it. He's
sorry, he remembered it, and

646
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:36,599
I can remember being flabergasted, really
something. Yeah, I was like,

647
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,400
wow, okay, so it you
know, we had to talk obviously and

648
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:45,400
share those experiences. When when you
fit the experience and you'll you're actually questioning

649
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:50,440
what happened to you And if someone
comes along and says exactly the same thing,

650
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,280
it must have been more blowd I
know, it's like, okay,

651
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,280
but I love how the universe works
because you know, I can be the

652
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,840
biggest doubting Thomas going and yet they'll
send me confirmations like that to kind of

653
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:10,239
go see because yeah, yeah,
it was remarkable. I will go back.

654
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,639
It's just a matter of when it
well, yeah, it has to

655
00:53:14,679 --> 00:53:17,679
take me with you. Oh,
there you go. I tell you,

656
00:53:17,599 --> 00:53:21,920
it's life changing. It truly is. It's like any I've not talked to

657
00:53:22,039 --> 00:53:24,480
one person who's been to Egypt that
doesn't I'd love to go. Really,

658
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:31,039
you really will. I probably never
will. Don't say never. Well,

659
00:53:31,079 --> 00:53:35,639
and you know there are times where
you know it, you know it can

660
00:53:35,679 --> 00:53:38,039
be rough. You know that that
part of the world is usually some type

661
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:43,519
of turmoil or another. But but
yeah, if we can get there,

662
00:53:43,519 --> 00:53:45,679
I would say, do it,
do it while we can, you know,

663
00:53:46,199 --> 00:53:49,840
with all the wars that are breaking
out, and that's what I worry

664
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,920
about. You know, in the
Holy Land, you know that that some

665
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:57,000
of these very sacred sites, Yeah, get destroyed. Yeah, we've already

666
00:53:57,000 --> 00:54:00,239
lost quite a few. In the
post something were looking in Iraq with the

667
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:06,119
It's terrible. Did did you ever
speak to William Henry about your experiences in

668
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,559
the end? You never spoke of
us. I never did, and you

669
00:54:10,679 --> 00:54:15,760
probably get a spot on ancient I
tell you that story. You know,

670
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:21,400
it's it's funny. I know I
never did, And honest to God,

671
00:54:21,599 --> 00:54:27,079
I I'm not sure. I mean, I know some reasons why, but

672
00:54:27,599 --> 00:54:31,079
then I think, well, why
not, you know, and just I

673
00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:34,960
don't know. You know, I
did some travel with them over the years,

674
00:54:35,039 --> 00:54:37,679
and then we just kind of all
kind of lost touch and everybody kind

675
00:54:37,679 --> 00:54:39,639
of goes their own way, and
and then I never had the chance to

676
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:44,840
share that. But I'm honest to
God, I'm not really sure why I

677
00:54:45,159 --> 00:54:47,519
didn't speak. I think maybe because
of the fear of not being believed.

678
00:54:49,199 --> 00:54:52,599
I think it's a big part for
me or back then it did. Now

679
00:54:52,159 --> 00:54:58,800
here I am talking about it and
and and and fully believed that you know,

680
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,079
those of us have had we need
to talk about it. When the

681
00:55:01,159 --> 00:55:04,760
show goes out, you'll have to
send in a link and say I listen

682
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:13,039
to this. Yeah, there you
go and yeah, yeah, no,

683
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,480
it was. It was. It
was a remarkable, remarkable, remarkable experience

684
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:22,639
one I'll never forget. One I
enjoy writing about and speaking about obviously,

685
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:29,639
Yeah, yeah, it was pretty
special. But you know, David again,

686
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:34,960
I you know, just need to
to kind of say that, you

687
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:39,679
know, more and more of these
you know, investigative reporters and you know,

688
00:55:40,519 --> 00:55:46,400
are are starting to put the pieces
together of the connection to the paranormal

689
00:55:46,599 --> 00:55:52,000
and to uphology and then you know
and even the spiritual piece of all that.

690
00:55:52,639 --> 00:55:57,559
You know that that is there.
So it's nice to see like a

691
00:55:57,639 --> 00:56:01,119
Leslie Keane, you know, and
and Ralph Bluement Bell connect those dots and

692
00:56:01,159 --> 00:56:06,280
they've been writing about that and it
was it was so refreshing to hear,

693
00:56:06,519 --> 00:56:10,239
you know, to read and hear
people of that statue stature, with the

694
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:16,199
platforms they have that they're now speaking
about it. So it's kind of exciting

695
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:20,239
time sparing right now that that a
lot is coming out. You know,

696
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,239
you've got Groush, You've got all
these you know, uh, you know,

697
00:56:22,519 --> 00:56:28,719
Washington, all of these you know, committees now going down that road

698
00:56:29,039 --> 00:56:32,840
of wanting you know, to to
have disclosure. And I think the time

699
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,800
is now coming that it'll all start
to happen. I just have that sense

700
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:42,559
that I'll do that. I'll do
fine. That's a mainstream media and now

701
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,480
more serious about it than they used
to be back a few years ago,

702
00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:49,679
when it's just sort of pooh pooh
love for everything, although they do try

703
00:56:49,679 --> 00:56:53,000
and make a joke with these still
if you mentioned, but it's got a

704
00:56:53,039 --> 00:56:57,679
lot more seriousness about it because I
think more people now believe in it,

705
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,199
and you know, and having experience, I mean all over the will we

706
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:06,880
get in lock of thousands every day
of experiences, aren't we well, at

707
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:13,000
least at least anyway, you know, it's remarkable, and you know,

708
00:57:13,639 --> 00:57:19,760
I've come to the point where I
will say our truth is our proof,

709
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,840
because here's the other side of that. Everybody wants proof. I do believe,

710
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:27,239
you know, and I think you're
seeing this in some of these documentaries,

711
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:30,880
especially the ones like about the aerial
phenomenon happening at the school. You

712
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:37,280
see these children who are writing down
their experiences. They're drawing what they saw,

713
00:57:37,519 --> 00:57:40,480
and that's their truth. They're not
lying about it. They're just merely

714
00:57:40,719 --> 00:57:45,800
telling you what they saw, and
they're drawing what they saw and to me,

715
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:52,239
that's proof, that's their truth,
is their proof of their experience.

716
00:57:52,199 --> 00:57:55,719
So hopefully, you know, we've
got a lot more open minded people out

717
00:57:55,760 --> 00:58:00,599
there now. It's it's nothing that
you have to feel ashamed of out anymore.

718
00:58:00,719 --> 00:58:02,920
And I think there was a lot
of that years ago, that you

719
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,840
were a nutter if you even mentioned
any of what I talked about, absolutely,

720
00:58:07,039 --> 00:58:13,320
yeah, yeah. I mean we've
got a mutual friend called Bill Rook.

721
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:19,960
Now when you mentioned he's a real
characteristic We're still waiting for his book

722
00:58:20,039 --> 00:58:23,480
to arrive, but that's a that's
another story. But when you mentioned the

723
00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:27,800
light beings, I mean he's had
a lot of years of experience with the

724
00:58:28,559 --> 00:58:30,960
so called light beings, which I
don't think he understands what they are.

725
00:58:31,599 --> 00:58:36,400
But do you feel that maybe they
were the same entities that you were talking

726
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:40,000
about. I think they present to
us in many different ways. Yeah,

727
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:45,239
yeah, And for some reason my
senses, they present that way to him

728
00:58:45,639 --> 00:58:49,760
that there's so many multi dimensions out
there, David. I'm a big believer

729
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:55,079
of us being a very multi dimensional
world, and I think whatever these light

730
00:58:55,159 --> 00:59:00,599
beings are there, he has an
affinity for them clearly. I mean I've

731
00:59:00,679 --> 00:59:07,239
seen his photographs. They are he
photographs. Yeah, and and just you

732
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:13,199
know it's it's I can't wait for
his book. I mean, he is

733
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,000
true and and you know what,
they're not dust particles, there's no way.

734
00:59:16,199 --> 00:59:20,960
Yeah, no, no, I
agree with you. I've seen something

735
00:59:21,079 --> 00:59:23,719
too. He's been on he's been
on the show. Actually we had a

736
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:29,280
good talk about it. But he
showed me these folkso years ago, and

737
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:31,400
he'll probably listen to this show.
So we've got to be careful what we

738
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:37,119
say, Hello Bill, you know, uh, you know to the point

739
00:59:37,159 --> 00:59:44,079
where I've tagged him as a B
for Alien Bill and just we go back,

740
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,199
yeah, gosh, we go back
now quite a few years. Yeah,

741
00:59:47,239 --> 00:59:51,320
yeah, you know, he's a
very special soul. And again,

742
00:59:51,559 --> 00:59:55,000
you know, timing for his book
is going to be spot on because again

743
00:59:55,119 --> 01:00:00,960
he's bringing another dimensional element to what
we're talking about. And and it's we

744
01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:05,480
need to see that and know about
it, that it is there, you

745
01:00:05,599 --> 01:00:08,920
know. Yeah, I mean I'm
always awe struck when I see his his

746
01:00:09,119 --> 01:00:14,199
photograph. When you're listening to this, Buield, I know you are listening

747
01:00:14,239 --> 01:00:16,360
to this coming out, and get
that book out because we're still waiting,

748
01:00:17,639 --> 01:00:23,000
Yes, get going he's got the
T shirts. Now he needs the book

749
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,840
in your younger years, So that
that UFO you saw going to school,

750
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:37,880
was that kind of your first UFO
experience here that you that you know or

751
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:44,239
that you remember anyway, Yeah,
yeah, it was. And I have

752
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:50,920
seen a lot of craft since then. I saw, oh boy, I

753
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:54,440
saw a triangular craft right above me. I was downtown Plymouth, middle of

754
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:59,920
the day, getting gasoline from my
car, this young man pumping the gas

755
01:01:00,159 --> 01:01:02,519
lane for me, and I'm sitting
there and I just look up and right

756
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:07,159
in front of me, right above
the tree line, above some some houses,

757
01:01:07,599 --> 01:01:13,280
there's a triangular crack the hell And
I look around and the kid humping

758
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,639
the gas he's not seeing it.
Nobody walking around, and was a lot

759
01:01:15,679 --> 01:01:19,840
of people out and about. Nobody's
looking up, nobody sees it. But

760
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,840
yet I'm seeing it, and I'm
thinking, Okay, what is this?

761
01:01:22,159 --> 01:01:28,800
And then as soon as I look
back up, it's gone. But completely

762
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,239
there. I mean, you could
see you can see, not that I

763
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:36,320
saw the lights on per se,
they weren't red, but you could see

764
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:42,440
where there were three round shapes underneath
it. But it was totally triangular.

765
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:47,480
And then the other interesting experience I
had was last year. I I go

766
01:01:47,639 --> 01:01:51,400
out. I have a I have
a great little courtyard in this house,

767
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:53,280
so you can, you know,
go outside and you're you know, you're

768
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:57,920
totally in privacy, but yet it's
all open to the sky, you know.

769
01:01:58,159 --> 01:02:02,400
And I I'll go out a lot
at night and I'm I always am

770
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:06,920
seeing something up there. You know, things are moving, things are flashing

771
01:02:07,079 --> 01:02:10,639
a lot of times. What they'll
do is they will flash a light three

772
01:02:10,719 --> 01:02:15,320
times and I know they're up there. And one night I go out and

773
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:19,519
it was about nine thirty in the
evening. The dog had gone out too

774
01:02:19,679 --> 01:02:22,639
with me. I'm kind of standing
ill, looking up, looking up,

775
01:02:22,679 --> 01:02:24,559
when all of a sudden, it
was kind of a patchy, cloudy night.

776
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:30,360
I look up and David, there's
a mothership above me. And it's

777
01:02:30,719 --> 01:02:37,039
right over my house, right above
the tree line, and I see it

778
01:02:37,719 --> 01:02:40,639
gently gliding through the clouds. It
was the most beautiful, stunning thing I've

779
01:02:40,719 --> 01:02:45,840
ever seen. And it was almost
like these tic tac lights are on the

780
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:50,760
whole edge of this craft. And
it was massive. So I I'm like,

781
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,320
oh my god. I go running
into the house. I almost kill

782
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:57,639
the poor dog stepping on her.
I trip over the dog, I get

783
01:02:57,679 --> 01:03:00,320
in the house, I get my
phone, I come back go and I

784
01:03:00,559 --> 01:03:05,280
aimed the phone. I thought I'd
put it on video, okay, and

785
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:07,760
I'm filming this thing. It's still
going by my house. It was that

786
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:12,559
big, and it's just like,
oh my god, and I'm thinking to

787
01:03:12,599 --> 01:03:16,880
myself, this is gonna be the
most stunning video ever taken. Only to

788
01:03:17,079 --> 01:03:23,519
look down to see I had it
on photo wow, and this is you

789
01:03:23,639 --> 01:03:27,199
know, this is how it works, right. They a lot of times

790
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,840
don't want you capture anything, so
they probably switched it. They switched it

791
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:36,079
from videos to photo movie. They
probably did. You're right, And I

792
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:40,239
can maybe so mad, going,
oh my god, I don't believe this,

793
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:45,280
but I'll never forget it. I
mean, it was it was us

794
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:50,639
stunning. What the thing is?
Did you get a photo because by the

795
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:52,840
time it had gone through and then
the clouds really started to come in,

796
01:03:53,559 --> 01:04:00,880
the gaps that I was seeing it
through were gone, and oh my god.

797
01:04:00,159 --> 01:04:04,440
But again they let me know they're
there. I was grateful for that.

798
01:04:04,519 --> 01:04:10,320
I truly was. And I do
you feel they actually I aim at

799
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:14,320
people kind of thing. They allowed
you certain people to see them at certain

800
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,719
times, so not everyone sees them
at once lot, you say, when

801
01:04:16,719 --> 01:04:21,840
you're at the gas station and it
was only you that saw them. Yeah,

802
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:27,199
you know, I posted that all. I chimed in on somebody's post

803
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,840
on Facebook about you know, seeing
something and you know, I don't think

804
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:34,000
anybody else saw it, And so
I shared a brief, little, you

805
01:04:34,079 --> 01:04:39,199
know story about me seeing that triangular
shaped crap. I had more people chiming

806
01:04:39,239 --> 01:04:43,159
in saying to me, the others
weren't meant to see it, only you

807
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,199
were meant to see it. And
that felt right, like for whatever reason,

808
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:53,480
they let me know they're around at
certain times. And you know what

809
01:04:53,559 --> 01:04:59,079
I always have found fascinating, David, is that, oh god, was

810
01:04:59,119 --> 01:05:03,519
it like nineteen fifty DEPOORI ish we've
had Eisenhower is in a white house and

811
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:14,679
he has that uh incredible meet up
with the aliens and that he actually met

812
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:18,920
with them and that So do you
actually feel that actually happened? Do you

813
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:24,639
believe that? Yeah? Yeah,
yeah I do. It's funny. I've

814
01:05:24,719 --> 01:05:28,280
heard that story and I never once
doubted it. Now, you know,

815
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,039
this is before anything happened to me, But I never doubted that story.

816
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:40,960
And the thing that always fascinated me
about that meeting is that they made an

817
01:05:41,039 --> 01:05:49,960
agreement Eisenhower with the alien beings to
allow them to take certain number of people.

818
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:58,400
Now I find that fascinating because you
know, if that was in fact

819
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:02,159
an agreement, how did that work? You know? Who got picked?

820
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,880
These are all the questions I have, And I think, Okay, so

821
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:10,719
are some of these people who are
having these incredible experiences? And I don't

822
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:14,760
mean myself, but I mean some
others have had these incredible experiences where they're

823
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:16,400
up on craft, they can remember
what they saw, and you know,

824
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:23,320
Whitley Strieber is just one person that
comes to mind. Were they chosen?

825
01:06:25,559 --> 01:06:30,679
Were they on the list? I
have always found that fascinating, and one

826
01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:34,920
day I'd love to know how that
laid out. Was there a list,

827
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:40,559
who was on it? And then
to follow up with what experience did they

828
01:06:40,679 --> 01:06:43,320
have? You know, any of
these people that were in fact on the

829
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:46,960
list, and that when you go
through and you you know, common denominated

830
01:06:47,039 --> 01:06:51,320
with a lot of people like myself, and I mentioned this earlier, is

831
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:57,159
a military connection. A lot of
times there's a military connection with sightings.

832
01:06:59,039 --> 01:07:03,360
So yeah, so that's the stuff
I think about, you know, and

833
01:07:03,719 --> 01:07:09,280
and of course that's back when everything
started to get covered up everything you know,

834
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,079
obviously Russell, I mean, you
name it, it all started to

835
01:07:12,119 --> 01:07:15,920
get covered up. And now I'm
glad to see that we're getting to a

836
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:21,800
point where it's all getting exposed.
So there's disclosure happening. Yeah, so

837
01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:26,079
it's great in our lifetime. Think
about all we've seen. I mean,

838
01:07:26,119 --> 01:07:30,519
when you really think about it,
we've been witnessed to it all, being

839
01:07:30,599 --> 01:07:35,159
exposed, to it all happening and
being recorded and being covered up. To

840
01:07:35,239 --> 01:07:39,679
a certain extent, I think it
discoes has already been taking place. Anyway.

841
01:07:40,519 --> 01:07:44,599
A lot of the UFO files they've
released, there's a lot of gems

842
01:07:44,639 --> 01:07:46,960
within those if you read through them. I'm not obviously not read through all

843
01:07:47,039 --> 01:07:53,119
of them because it's thousands and thousands
and thousands of pages, but I've seen

844
01:07:53,199 --> 01:07:56,320
quite a few, and there's a
lot of un answered questions and sightings and

845
01:07:56,400 --> 01:08:01,079
things that nobody can answer what they
are. So I think there's a certain

846
01:08:01,119 --> 01:08:05,880
amount of disclosure coming on, and
when you're getting certain leaders of countries,

847
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:12,639
so actually admitting it as well.
Yes, you know, I did a

848
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,840
memorial piece on Paul Hellier, who
was at one point Minister Defense for Canada

849
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:23,800
back in the late sixties. That
was a remarkable piece. I mean I

850
01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:27,520
knew of I've heard of him,
I did not know of his extensive history

851
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:34,800
with exterstrooms and how he was such
a brave voice back when he was the

852
01:08:35,079 --> 01:08:42,680
first person holding an office of power
to speak of to actually speak of this

853
01:08:43,039 --> 01:08:46,199
and to say they're here, they
exist. You can see if you look

854
01:08:46,279 --> 01:08:51,279
up in the sky there as though
if you look up in the sky there's

855
01:08:51,359 --> 01:08:56,079
many of them, as you can
see your planes above you. And he

856
01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:00,359
really, you know, towards the
last years of his life, he was

857
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:08,079
such an ambassador to bridge and a
bridged you know, what he saw as

858
01:09:08,159 --> 01:09:12,079
being the truth and what was happening
that they have been here, they live

859
01:09:12,159 --> 01:09:16,600
among us. He was talking about
different types of aliens, like I think

860
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:21,680
he references like twenty four twenty six
different types of alien civilizations that are out

861
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:27,359
there. I mean, I was
so amazed at this man. It was

862
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,840
such a beautiful eye opener for me
to get to know him through writing this

863
01:09:31,079 --> 01:09:40,439
piece about him. And you know, so certain key people are now starting

864
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:44,680
to speak and I think he was
one of the absolute pioneers of coming forward

865
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,479
he wrote numerous books. I had
a guest on Resa you said, there's

866
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:54,039
over a one hundred that have been
visiting us, So I don't doubt that

867
01:09:54,279 --> 01:09:58,119
now, you know, when you
hear all these stories, it's it's getting

868
01:09:58,199 --> 01:10:02,319
to be a I think a few
years ago, i'd hope there's about fourteen

869
01:10:02,399 --> 01:10:05,640
or fifteen, but now it's gone
over one hundred, so I know you're

870
01:10:05,720 --> 01:10:09,439
right, yes, yes, now. And it's like, I remember I

871
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,000
heard somebody's say God, and I
forget who it was, but it was

872
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:17,399
It's like, Okay, how could
it be that this, in this entire

873
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:23,319
universe, with all the planet,
star systems and other universes, how is

874
01:10:23,399 --> 01:10:26,159
it that we're the only ones?
Yeah, it just doesn't make any sense.

875
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:30,640
It's like, come on, So, yeah, you know, you've

876
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,760
got to have an open mind,
because that's it's like after Clark they said,

877
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:38,479
it's both terrifying and you know,
to think that we're the only ones.

878
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:43,520
It's a terrifying just to think that
we're not the only ones. Yeah,

879
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:47,600
you're right, it goes both ways. Yeah, I don't know.

880
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:53,239
I'm I'm so hopeful that I think
I think things are going to start to

881
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:58,840
just unravel and a lot of people
are going to feel more comfortable and safe

882
01:10:59,119 --> 01:11:05,159
in talking about things that were very
hushed and very covered up. And I

883
01:11:05,279 --> 01:11:10,000
think it's going to be incredible when
it happens. I can't wait. I

884
01:11:10,159 --> 01:11:15,920
just hope I'm around and oh,
I'm sure you yes, I discovered the

885
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:20,880
fact that youth when I was in
Egypt. That was another thing that happened.

886
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:26,279
Kiddy. So what are your plans? Are you doing anything this year?

887
01:11:26,359 --> 01:11:29,680
Kathy? You're coming back and coming
back to the new council. I

888
01:11:30,079 --> 01:11:32,279
am. I'm coming back to the
UK, to Scotland at the end of

889
01:11:32,399 --> 01:11:38,760
August, the beginning of September.
I initially was coming over to tie in,

890
01:11:39,039 --> 01:11:45,000
going to Steve Marri's phenomena I'm Sorry
Awakenings conference. Yeah, only to

891
01:11:45,039 --> 01:11:47,000
have a cancer and be canceled.
And I know those things happened, but

892
01:11:47,600 --> 01:11:50,760
you know, regardless, I had
already made my travel plans. I had

893
01:11:50,760 --> 01:11:55,600
already booked my plane tickets. I'm
like, what, just like, come

894
01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:59,880
on, something happens. I think
there's been some sort of a split up

895
01:12:00,079 --> 01:12:04,319
of personalities there with Steve. Unfortunately
with the management. I think there's been

896
01:12:04,359 --> 01:12:10,079
some sort of falling out. So
I believe Steve's getting himself back together again,

897
01:12:10,119 --> 01:12:12,319
and I believe he's going to have
some remits of his own. So

898
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,439
we'll see. We'll see how that
goes. He would be a brilliant guest

899
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:19,159
for you. Yeah, I mean
I like Steve. Well I did ask

900
01:12:19,279 --> 01:12:21,560
him one a little while backer,
but he was a bit busy, so

901
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:26,640
we'll see how it goes. He's
wonderful. I love him. He's a

902
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:30,680
dear friend now, so he is. Yeah, he's getting himself back on

903
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:33,640
track, and he got his fingers
in lots of pies at the moment,

904
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:38,520
I think, there you go,
yeah, juggling. But yeah, no,

905
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,960
I was just thrilled to see Phenomenon
magazine come back to and I know

906
01:12:42,079 --> 01:12:45,920
that was not a little bit of
a hiatus and so that was that was

907
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:49,560
good to see. So I hope
to hopefully write some more for them,

908
01:12:50,359 --> 01:12:56,520
and yeah, continue to have these
crazy experiences. So well, if you're

909
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:00,319
coming to Scotland, I probably won't
get to see you. I know,

910
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:02,840
we'll see if the conference was going
on and it's looking forteous seeing all,

911
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:06,680
oh, no, there you go
like we did last year at the Awakenings

912
01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:10,680
conference, which was fun. I
have to see it go for next year

913
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:14,600
maybe, yeah, let's hope.
Yeah. I get to think when things

914
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:17,720
get back on track that, yeah, the conference circuit will open back up.

915
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:19,680
That would be nice. Well,
as you know, I was over

916
01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:23,239
in the US, so a couple
of bottle didn't bump into there either.

917
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:29,800
Oh you were too busy chasing Elvis
when he's chasing up and down and all

918
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:31,680
over. Yeah. As I said
to you earlier, my wife was a

919
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:35,680
break pleased, a bet on the
road trip. She loved where we got,

920
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:39,079
where we were going and everything,
you know, at ninety three and

921
01:13:39,199 --> 01:13:42,960
ninety seven degrees and everything, but
she did like the road trips and the

922
01:13:43,079 --> 01:13:48,119
road trips in between. Apart from
that, one of these days I'll get

923
01:13:48,119 --> 01:13:51,279
to Graceland. I often thought that
you've got to go. You've never been,

924
01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:57,039
Yeah, you never been. No, we actually say we stayed in

925
01:13:57,119 --> 01:14:00,319
the Grace and the hotel. It's
fantastic, is it right on the grounds?

926
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,319
It's fantastic. Well, it's just
down the road where Graysland is just

927
01:14:03,399 --> 01:14:06,760
walking distance, on the same side
of the road, and it's called the

928
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:14,720
Grayceland Guesthouse. But it's absolutely beautiful, really is Oh wow? Okay,

929
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,239
Yeah, that's on the list.
Yeah. Well, I was just glad

930
01:14:17,279 --> 01:14:20,840
to see and you perfect perfectly timed
your visit. Is that there were some

931
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:25,720
legal issues going on. Yeah,
that was a scam that someone was trying

932
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:30,880
to take up. Apparently somebody did
on these scams where they said Grayston I

933
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:33,880
think after Liza Marie died. Unfortunately, Yeah, they just idea, well

934
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:39,720
we'll try and pull a scam to
say that borrow three million dollars. And

935
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:44,119
they didn't win anyway, I think
they had. They had to own up

936
01:14:44,159 --> 01:14:45,800
in the end to say it was
all the scared. Yeah. I was

937
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:49,960
glad to see that shake out to
be Okay, good lord, you tell

938
01:14:50,039 --> 01:14:54,319
that. I mean the thing is, I mean Grayston's worth about five hundred

939
01:14:54,319 --> 01:14:57,640
million dollars as I understand it the
way things are at the moment, So

940
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:00,319
that's three million dollars, which is
a Japanee really, wasn't it. So

941
01:15:01,359 --> 01:15:03,680
Yeah, yeah, I know when
you get down there was no way.

942
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:06,640
There was no way it was going
to be closed down for that. You

943
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:10,520
know. In fact, why I
was there, they didn't even talk about

944
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:14,800
it. You know, it's only
one of the stores I mentioned or set

945
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:16,800
about what happened there. And she
was telling me about it. What's what

946
01:15:17,079 --> 01:15:21,640
happened? It was it was a
scam, so but well good to know

947
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:26,560
that because I couldn't imagine it not
being there. It's such an integral part

948
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:30,880
of history. Now. It's fantastic. But you've you've got to go,

949
01:15:31,319 --> 01:15:33,720
You've got to go on there.
I got to get down into the jungle

950
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:40,520
rum huh. Yes, it's an
experience. But anyway, it's been fantastic

951
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:43,439
having you back on the show and
go. Thank you so much for making

952
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:45,960
your appearance again. And we'll have
to do it again at some point.

953
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:51,680
I tell you, lots of lots
of experiences. Yeah, I know.

954
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:56,119
I do hope to run into hopefully
you'll get back to the UK. Maybe

955
01:15:56,159 --> 01:15:59,840
I'll be over the US and then
your negative support. You never know.

956
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:02,079
There you go Plymouth, Massachusetts.
Yeah, you give me a holler.

957
01:16:02,279 --> 01:16:08,560
And the funny thing is the Massachusetts
so maybe it's something I should put on

958
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:13,359
the cold It's yeah, well you
know we got Salem, Massachusetts with all

959
01:16:13,399 --> 01:16:15,319
the witch trials that happened. Yeah, that's right, that's right. There's

960
01:16:15,319 --> 01:16:19,960
a lot of there's a lot of
I know Americans said there's no history in

961
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:26,760
America, but there's an awful lot
of history and like you say, in

962
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:30,680
the modern history, I guess you'd
call it, you know, civil war.

963
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:33,840
Is it fascinates me actually, the
super Yeah, yeah, yeah,

964
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,239
And there's a lot of that,
and there's a lot of you know,

965
01:16:36,359 --> 01:16:40,920
paranormal activity around those sites. Yeah, yeah, you know, and I've

966
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:44,520
had my share when I've been in
Salem, and yeah, it's you know,

967
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:46,840
they're they're they're still alive and kicking, kicking around in some of those

968
01:16:47,079 --> 01:16:53,119
as you know, especially in the
battlegrounds like you know, Gettysburg and places

969
01:16:53,239 --> 01:16:57,960
like that. Maybe that's our nick
show. We should do witches and all

970
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:02,359
sorts of stuff like that. I'm
yeah, yeah, I suppose they've had

971
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:06,800
people read me. Who have you
know, told me I've had past lives

972
01:17:09,399 --> 01:17:13,279
persecuted and killed. Not technically a
witch, but in those days, you

973
01:17:13,319 --> 01:17:15,479
know, if you were a healer, if you were a midwife, you

974
01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:18,000
used herbs, well there you go, you were a witch. I've been

975
01:17:18,199 --> 01:17:23,920
persecuted and hung. Yeah, and
I were people just helping people. They

976
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:27,479
normally exactly, that's all it was. In a one lifetime, I was

977
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:30,640
a midwife and because of that I
was considered a witch. Yeah, So

978
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:34,039
I mean it's a shame. It's
it's a horrible part of human history,

979
01:17:34,119 --> 01:17:38,319
that whole thing. And you all
over there had your own I mean,

980
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:43,279
what happened you It started there and
then it came over obviously came over all

981
01:17:43,319 --> 01:17:47,680
the ships because he was around that
same period with the night Flower and everything.

982
01:17:48,159 --> 01:17:53,399
It truly came over. Yeah,
yep, so yeah, but hey,

983
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:56,399
that would be a great show.
Maybe do it around Halloween. Yeah,

984
01:17:56,439 --> 01:18:01,479
yeah, it's a good idea.
Live to sail them. Oh well,

985
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:05,720
yeah, that would be that would
be sure, it could show.

986
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:10,840
We think that would be fun.
Actually, anyway, let you get over

987
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,239
the rest of your day. Thank
you so much for coming on. It's

988
01:18:13,279 --> 01:18:15,920
been great talking to you and seeing
you. As for paper that are listing

989
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:20,319
on the radio, okay, actually
see on the screen which unfortunately you'll be

990
01:18:20,399 --> 01:18:27,239
sitting. I'll put some photos up, will you do the best banners or

991
01:18:27,279 --> 01:18:30,079
we will put the has the material
book what you are holding up. I'll

992
01:18:30,119 --> 01:18:32,960
make a link for that, you
know, the hat to material you know

993
01:18:33,039 --> 01:18:35,520
what. I'll send you a picture
of that, David, so you can

994
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:40,680
see the cover ready there so I
can get it on Amazon. Anyway.

995
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:47,159
It doesn't look an interesting book to
get actually, but it does. I

996
01:18:47,319 --> 01:18:51,560
was going to read you parts of
it because I did a I did an

997
01:18:51,600 --> 01:19:00,920
extensive presentation on that particular experience,
and I I didn't want to switch my

998
01:19:01,079 --> 01:19:05,920
screens here in our talks, I
thought, because I was going to read

999
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:09,560
yourself. You know, I'll tell
you what you could do. I will

1000
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:11,800
tell you what you could do.
You haven't really out, but you could

1001
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:16,439
if you send me screenshots or I'll
put it on the Paranormal Dimensions page Facebook.

1002
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:21,199
I can do that, okay,
if it's not too difficult for us

1003
01:19:21,279 --> 01:19:26,560
to do. But no, hopefully
I can just take it from my PowerPoint

1004
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:32,960
presentation. I'll put it on the
paranorm Devices page on Facebook. Okay,

1005
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:35,520
yeah, no, it's very interesting
stuff. It really is. I was

1006
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:40,600
just like, okay, this is
and they address a lot. Yeah,

1007
01:19:41,199 --> 01:19:44,159
thank you, David. I'll let
you go down, Kavy, thank you

1008
01:19:44,279 --> 01:19:47,399
so much for coming on. As
I've said again, you take care of

1009
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:53,760
yourself. Care until next time.
Okay, until next time. You got

1010
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:58,560
it, Okay, bye bye,
bye bye, Thank you, Kathy.

1011
01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:01,840
That was fantastic. As always,
I've got another extra show for you next

1012
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:08,119
week and it's with my good friend
Philip Kinsella. Philip has a new book

1013
01:20:08,159 --> 01:20:11,560
out called Terrestrial Trustpasses. We's been
there for a couple of months actually,

1014
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:15,600
but it's the first chance I've had
to get Philip on. So that'll be

1015
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:19,039
the next show, and that'll be
July the fifteenth, on Monday. Of

1016
01:20:19,119 --> 01:20:21,720
course, as always, if you'd
like to get in touch with me anytime,

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my email address is David Young two
QN at your whu dot co dot

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uk. That's David Young two QN
at your hoo dot co dot UK.

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So the next show to you,
lad of fifteenth an extra with Philip Kinsella,

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and that will be shown number two
hundred and ten. So until the

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next time, take care of everyone. I'll speak to you then bye bye.

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Unidentified flying objects, commonly known as
flying sausas, do exist. Some

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kind of flying objects have been photographed
in the sky. If they cannot be

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identified as objects known to man?
What if they are not man made?

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Who made? If they are not
from this planet, where are they from?

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Spooky? Eh parorable dimensions is as
bright and powerful as our celestial starves

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up and although it's expending thousands of
pounds of energy every minute of the day,

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have no fear there's plenty left.
Paranormal Dimensions is fortnightly on Mondays on

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the Paranormal UK Radio Network.