WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.679 --> 00:00:10.240 A passionate instigator and dynamic problem solver. Doctor Kevin ross Emery, the host 2 00:00:10.240 --> 00:00:14.279 of the Doctor Kevin Radio Show, will be taking you outside the box, 3 00:00:14.519 --> 00:00:19.359 behind the curtain and identifying the load of bs we are fed every day. 4 00:00:19.760 --> 00:00:28.519 And now Doctor Kevin. Hello, Hello, Hello, and welcome to the 5 00:00:28.519 --> 00:00:32.880 first Doctor Kevin Show of the month. And as always, on the first 6 00:00:32.960 --> 00:00:40.960 of the month, we drag from Matt Connorton Unleashed one Matt Connorton, who's 7 00:00:41.000 --> 00:00:45.240 here tonight? Check. We talk about what's going on in the world, 8 00:00:45.520 --> 00:00:50.520 mostly political, but other subjects do come up, and I don't know. 9 00:00:50.600 --> 00:00:53.600 I think Matt and I might find one or three two things to talk about 10 00:00:53.600 --> 00:00:58.280 today. Check. And as always it's a call in show, a live 11 00:00:58.359 --> 00:01:00.679 Collin show. So you can call in and you can share an opinion. 12 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:07.599 Don't attack anyone, don't be disrespectful, but you can share an opinion or 13 00:01:07.719 --> 00:01:11.840 ask a question. And so if you'd like to call in and be part 14 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:15.840 of this conversation, you could do so by calling two two five seven seven 15 00:01:17.200 --> 00:01:30.599 five seven. And the last time somebody said our politics in this country is 16 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:40.000 boring was never Matt. Welcome. Hello. So if you had any good, 17 00:01:40.000 --> 00:01:44.640 interesting musical groups on your show recently. I know you're splitting your time 18 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:51.439 between quantification and the playing of live bands. Oh, we've had so many 19 00:01:51.760 --> 00:01:55.719 today. Actually, these guys were skyping in from Connecticut. But we had 20 00:01:55.719 --> 00:02:00.959 a great band called DC Wolves. Cannot recommend them enough, really really good. 21 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:07.599 But yeah, we've had just tons of great, tons of great musicians 22 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:12.120 on the show lately. It's been amazing. And if people would like to 23 00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:16.439 catch that show, they can do so. They're going to Matt Connerson dot 24 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:22.599 com four to six Eastern Standard time Monday through Friday, or if they are 25 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:25.199 in the greater Manchester, New Hampshire area, they can tune in at ninety 26 00:02:25.199 --> 00:02:30.800 five point three WMNH. So you can catch them on the live airwaves, 27 00:02:31.240 --> 00:02:37.439 you can catch them on the internet waves wherever you do. Matt will waves 28 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:43.879 and he'll let you. I am in hall in tap dancing. It's an 29 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:50.159 open door chaotic policy, right Matt, Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's 30 00:02:50.199 --> 00:02:57.240 one way of putn't it a cap dance? I haven't done for since before 31 00:02:57.280 --> 00:03:00.400 the pandemic. I have wait over to but we just don't know when that's 32 00:03:00.400 --> 00:03:01.599 going to happen. But I won't surprise you. One of these days, 33 00:03:01.639 --> 00:03:06.120 I won't tell you I'm coming, I'll just show off. Yeah, you 34 00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:09.719 get your new Do you get your new COVID shot? Nope? Ah? 35 00:03:12.639 --> 00:03:16.560 Did you? Yeah? I don't fool around. Yep. I got my 36 00:03:16.759 --> 00:03:21.919 new COVID shot and the flu shot all on the same day, and it 37 00:03:22.280 --> 00:03:24.240 put me down. It put me down hard for one night, like it 38 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:30.520 always does. I barely got through my show that day. But it's worth 39 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:36.840 yep. And I am in no way, shape or form an anti vaxer. 40 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:40.199 But because of certain things that are going on with me medically at this 41 00:03:40.319 --> 00:03:45.560 time, it has been recommended I bypassed this one. Oh really, okay, 42 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:53.719 yeah, so but what But they assured me that the fact that I 43 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:58.080 did the first three rounds will give me some immunity. And then two weeks 44 00:03:58.080 --> 00:04:01.280 ago, more or less, my husband got COVID for the first time. 45 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:08.759 Oh no kidding, And you know he's a type one diabetic, and they 46 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:13.960 hit him hard. We ended up in the emergency room and but he's better 47 00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:21.519 now. But I was sleeping beside him the more, you know, like 48 00:04:21.639 --> 00:04:27.360 sleeping beside him a couple of days that was coming. On the day he 49 00:04:27.480 --> 00:04:32.040 tested positive was an hour after we'd been sleeping side by side, breathe in 50 00:04:32.079 --> 00:04:36.279 the same air, and I went got negative the whole time. Yeah, 51 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:42.399 you know, so I may be one of the lucky ones. Anyway, 52 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:48.560 who knows, Well, you probably you probably had it and didn't have you 53 00:04:48.639 --> 00:04:54.519 ever tested positive for it? Nope? Never me, neither, But I 54 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:59.680 just assume neither, as Jenny. Actually, but I just assume. I 55 00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:01.839 assume I've had it, and I've probably had it more than once. But 56 00:05:02.399 --> 00:05:08.040 you know, I just you know, I'm vaxed up the wazoo. Sorry 57 00:05:08.319 --> 00:05:13.680 anti vaxers out there, And uh so I probably just I probably had it 58 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:17.360 and just had no idea, was just asymptomatic, you know, and probably 59 00:05:17.399 --> 00:05:21.560 you too, You probably had it. They estimated about ninety five percent of 60 00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:28.240 the American population has carried it at some point, so almost impossible to avoid 61 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:33.079 it completely. So you know, you probably had it and I was just 62 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:40.680 a symptomatic. So yeah, but you don't have to apologize to the anti 63 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:46.319 vaxxers unless you're trying to shove it up there wazoo. Well, well, 64 00:05:53.879 --> 00:06:00.360 anyway, but yeah, what is before we jump into the world of politics, 65 00:06:00.399 --> 00:06:04.439 because there's a lot to discuss, and I'm anxious to hear some of 66 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:10.319 your perceptions on what's going on and some of your best guesses of how things 67 00:06:10.360 --> 00:06:17.680 may unfold, none which we hold you accountable too. How else is the 68 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:25.720 world of Baton? Oh it's not bad. I've got a big I'm actually 69 00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:28.319 gonna have to take a day off from the radio show for this, and 70 00:06:28.360 --> 00:06:31.279 that's really unusual. But coming up on October twenty sixth, I've got a 71 00:06:31.279 --> 00:06:36.600 big corporate event in Providence. I'm gonna be hypnotizing a room full of real 72 00:06:36.720 --> 00:06:44.040 estate agents. So looking forward to that. Those events are good, good, 73 00:06:44.079 --> 00:06:48.040 good money. Oh yeah, I do corporate events. I know exactly 74 00:06:48.040 --> 00:06:51.199 what you mean. I don't do anys a hypnotist. I do it as 75 00:06:51.240 --> 00:06:57.720 a motivational, inspirational speaker. Yeah you know. I always open the room 76 00:06:57.759 --> 00:07:00.759 with the same line, good off, harass and do something good with the 77 00:07:00.959 --> 00:07:08.399 light works every time they're really motivated and inspired. What I like to do 78 00:07:08.519 --> 00:07:11.879 is if it's people in sales, what I like to do is get them 79 00:07:11.879 --> 00:07:16.600 into a state of deep hypnosis and then I and then I perform the Alec 80 00:07:16.680 --> 00:07:26.319 Baldwin scene from GW Glengarry glen Ross and I swear with them. I don't 81 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:32.959 really do that, but it'd be funny if I did. The interest rates 82 00:07:33.079 --> 00:07:40.759 are in your favor. The interest rates are in your favor. Uh huh. 83 00:07:41.360 --> 00:07:47.439 I can just get the sublivable suggestions you must put in there. Ah, 84 00:07:47.480 --> 00:07:53.360 well, that's good. Yeah, congratulations on that event. You've got 85 00:07:53.360 --> 00:07:59.079 to I've got an event on Sunday, a zoom event, and if anybody 86 00:07:59.120 --> 00:08:03.319 out there is interesting, they can go to actual NH Metaphysical dot com n 87 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:11.160 H Metaphysical dot com. I'm doing a spiritually interactive panel. I have three 88 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:16.879 of the practitioners from that are involved with New Hampshire Metaphysical and myself discussing through 89 00:08:16.959 --> 00:08:24.079 heaven and Hell exist. Oh and and you know it's a free zoom event. 90 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:31.720 People can share their ideas, ask questions, do whatever. We do 91 00:08:31.799 --> 00:08:39.440 these SIP events once a month. You know, last month was what is 92 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:45.360 the soul before? Is you know, psychic or psychotic? Next month is 93 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:48.240 going to be how have we lived before? And what does that mean? 94 00:08:48.919 --> 00:08:56.399 And we're just trying to get a number of I'm gonna call it competent and 95 00:08:56.480 --> 00:09:01.600 qualified spiritual people spiral ty and hailers to kind of weigh in and give different 96 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:07.399 perspectives nobody's right, nobody's wrong, and it's really I call it a sip 97 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:13.799 event for the spiritually curious. Come take a sip, just because there's a 98 00:09:13.799 --> 00:09:20.279 lot of people out there looking like their own religion has deserted them, or 99 00:09:20.279 --> 00:09:26.840 they've had a bad experience in the New Age metaphysical community, or you know, 100 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:31.279 they've been taken advantage of by a spiritual teacher or a religious figure like 101 00:09:31.320 --> 00:09:39.240 a priest or a minister, but they still feel that longing for connection to 102 00:09:39.320 --> 00:09:48.120 something right. And so we do these events once a month just to take 103 00:09:48.159 --> 00:09:52.879 stuff around. You know, we're not indoctrinating, nobody's pushing their belief system 104 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:56.960 or religion with just having an open conversation. So that's four o'clock Eastern time 105 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:03.799 on Sunday sometimes, Buddy, Yeah, Hampshire Metaphysical dot Com. Jenny would 106 00:10:03.799 --> 00:10:07.399 probably love the conversation. Who have you read it for a rally? Yeah, 107 00:10:07.480 --> 00:10:09.960 I don't know. I mean, she's she's kind of gotten away from 108 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:16.679 a lot of that, but I am curious because so yesterday on the show, 109 00:10:16.720 --> 00:10:20.960 coincidentally, we were talking about I do a segment on Wednesdays with my 110 00:10:22.039 --> 00:10:28.080 friend Eric Pilcher. It's called My favorite conservative because he's my favorite conservative largely 111 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:31.679 because I can have a conversation with him and we can disagree about we can 112 00:10:31.720 --> 00:10:37.200 disagree about things without it ever becoming contentious or you know, acrimonious or anything 113 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:39.039 like that. You know, he's just very easy to talk to, and 114 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:43.279 we actually do agree on some things. He doesn't like Trump for example, 115 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:46.399 in fact, he despises him, but he's you know, he's an evangelical. 116 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:52.399 But he also does our classic film reviews on Fridays and this Friday, 117 00:10:52.519 --> 00:11:00.000 well tomorrow, his classic film review is The Exorcist, and so we actually 118 00:11:00.080 --> 00:11:05.720 he got into a conversation yesterday about about exorcism and demonic possession. And uh, 119 00:11:07.440 --> 00:11:11.799 I told a story because I'm I'm you know, I'm a skeptical. 120 00:11:11.879 --> 00:11:15.600 I'm not I'm not a religious person. I was raised Catholic, but I'm 121 00:11:15.600 --> 00:11:20.240 not. I'm not religious. But I told a story. And I don't 122 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:22.759 know if I've ever told you this, doctor Kevin, if it's ever come 123 00:11:22.840 --> 00:11:26.200 up on the show. But not something that happened to me, but something 124 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:30.879 that happened to someone I know, an English teacher I had in school named 125 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:35.519 mister Phelps. He told a story once about how he had a friend who 126 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:39.519 had a mountain climbing accident and ended up in like a full body cast and 127 00:11:39.879 --> 00:11:43.320 I think might have been in a coma or he was in and out of 128 00:11:43.360 --> 00:11:48.240 consciousness, and mister Phelps was visiting him in the hospital. And while the 129 00:11:48.279 --> 00:11:52.639 guy's lying there unconscious, all of a sudden, his eyes pop open and 130 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:56.360 he grabs mister Phelps by the arm and starts squeezing really hard, and he's 131 00:11:56.440 --> 00:12:01.879 grunting. He's making like these growling noises. And mister Phelps when he told 132 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:03.720 this story, and this was when I was a kid. Obviously I was 133 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:07.840 in school when he told this, but this story has always haunted me. 134 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:11.559 He said that he looked into his friend's eyes in that moment, and his 135 00:12:11.679 --> 00:12:16.759 friend wasn't there. It was like something else was there. I've never forgotten 136 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:22.879 those words, and that story has always haunted me because it's not something that 137 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:26.559 happened to me or even something that I witnessed, But for some reason, 138 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:31.919 hearing that story, it just really stuck with me in it. It stuck 139 00:12:31.960 --> 00:12:35.639 with me all these years. I remember hearing the story as though I heard 140 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:39.399 it yesterday. And he was a great storyteller. He told a lot of 141 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:41.600 stories. That's why all the kids loved him. But that's the only story 142 00:12:41.720 --> 00:12:46.799 I actually remember from mister Phelps. So I don't know if you have any 143 00:12:46.799 --> 00:12:50.039 thoughts on that. But we ended up on the show yesterday. We ended 144 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:54.639 up talking about demons and possession and exorcism. It was kind of an interesting 145 00:12:54.679 --> 00:13:01.840 twist for my show. More like you were on my show. I know, 146 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:05.320 I know. Yeah, yeah, well it happens sometimes on my show. 147 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:09.639 You never know where we're gonna end up. God, you should have 148 00:13:09.759 --> 00:13:11.519 just taken a second and text me and said tune in, call in, 149 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:16.279 weigh in. Yeah, I know. If I wasn't with clients, I 150 00:13:16.320 --> 00:13:20.120 would have. I don't even remember what I was doing yesterday. Yeah, 151 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:24.600 I don't remember what I was doing last hour. So like it all seeks, 152 00:13:24.679 --> 00:13:30.679 it all work. Do I believe that possessions happened? Absolutely? Have 153 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:35.960 I had first hand experience? Absolutely? Could I tell you stories of actual 154 00:13:37.000 --> 00:13:41.639 things that happened that I was present for. Absolutely, And I actually do 155 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:46.639 on my ghost DVD and when I teach my ghost class, I'll talk about 156 00:13:48.559 --> 00:13:52.080 actual events that have happened in the last thirty three years of me doing this 157 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:58.360 work, that they were witnesses for people saw this shit happening. It wasn't 158 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:11.519 just me, And yeah there you know, just like you have people that 159 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:20.159 are in form that feed off other people. Actually, you know, takes 160 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:24.039 the concept to Sheriff Freuden to a whole new level. People that are sadistic, 161 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:28.679 people that get joy out of other people's pain. And of course, 162 00:14:30.039 --> 00:14:33.279 you know, I teamed this up with that in my in my practice, 163 00:14:33.600 --> 00:14:39.679 by one on one practice with people I've had. I've had more than a 164 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:45.960 few through the years, and a couple that will I will never be able 165 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:50.000 to forget some of the stories, even if I wanted to cult abuse svids. 166 00:14:54.320 --> 00:15:00.159 And you know, when you think of the horrible things people do to 167 00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:09.399 each other and intentionally, and that there are people that literally get get it 168 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:16.039 makes them happy. They get sexually excited by it. I mean like they 169 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:22.240 get turned on by killing somebody. Yeah, I mean, these energies survive 170 00:15:22.360 --> 00:15:28.240 the body. So just like there are things out people out there that you 171 00:15:28.279 --> 00:15:33.320 don't ever want to be in a room alone with, there are energies out 172 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:37.759 there that you don't ever want to have attracted to you. Right, Why 173 00:15:37.840 --> 00:15:48.399 why is that such a far bridge for some people to cross? You know 174 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:52.879 so, well, well, I think it's a far bridge for some people 175 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:58.759 to believe that, you know, an entity can actually occupy another person's physical 176 00:15:58.840 --> 00:16:02.840 being. You know what I mean that that I think is what someone like 177 00:16:02.879 --> 00:16:06.519 me who is skeptical, like, I'm skeptical of that. But again, 178 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:11.639 I for some reason that story just haunts me, you know. But yeah, 179 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:18.000 well I'm kind of semi stealing a meme I saw on Facebook. Many 180 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:22.679 of those people are the same people that said, oh, yeah, somebody 181 00:16:22.799 --> 00:16:26.919 got crucified and like was completely dead and got up and walked away. I 182 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:30.320 can believe that, Yeah, that absolutely happens. Not a problem. Oh 183 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:40.960 okay, you can believe that. No real historical evidence. All the eyewitnesses 184 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:45.559 are long dead. But it's too far to say. There could be a 185 00:16:45.600 --> 00:16:52.000 malignant energy, and you have some people that are susceptible to it, which 186 00:16:52.039 --> 00:16:55.480 could come across as a mental illness. We like to call it a mental 187 00:16:55.480 --> 00:17:00.279 and emotional illness. And you know I have said for years, You've heard 188 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:07.960 me say it, Matt, eighty ninety percent of mental and emotional illness have 189 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:15.759 some kind of psychic ability that is misunderstood, has has gotten in some way 190 00:17:15.799 --> 00:17:22.839 twisted or warped that is involved with that process, you know. But but 191 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:30.319 are you Are you saying then that if someone is seemingly possessed that it's not 192 00:17:32.119 --> 00:17:36.839 it's not literally a demon, but rather it is an energy that is causing 193 00:17:37.920 --> 00:17:42.519 because you know, psychiatrists will tell you who you know, psychiatrists who don't 194 00:17:42.519 --> 00:17:48.319 believe in possession, which is probably most psychiatrists will tell you that that it's 195 00:17:48.440 --> 00:17:52.720 just it's just mental illness. But is it? Are you saying it's actually 196 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:55.880 an energy that is so in a way, it's both right? Is that 197 00:17:55.920 --> 00:18:00.000 what you're saying, that it's actually an energy that is causing that mental illness 198 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:04.240 to come out and therefore resemble what some might interpret as a demonic possession. 199 00:18:06.440 --> 00:18:15.000 So let's follow this line here. You're familiar with the term Claire audience, 200 00:18:15.119 --> 00:18:18.640 correct? And if you're not, let me define it because there may be 201 00:18:18.720 --> 00:18:22.039 some of you. Is it Claire Audience is somebody? Go ahead? Oh, 202 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:25.920 I was just going to say, I'm I'm familiar with the term, 203 00:18:25.960 --> 00:18:27.920 but but please yeah, go ahead, because I might I might have it 204 00:18:27.960 --> 00:18:32.960 wrong. Yeah, Well, and somebody else out there might not know what 205 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:38.119 it is. So Claire Audien is the psychic ability of psychic hearing where you 206 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:41.880 will hear things and it comes out in a number of different ways. There 207 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:47.240 is an aspect of Claire audience that is used in mediumship a lot of the 208 00:18:47.319 --> 00:18:52.279 time. You know they'll hear the voice of the departed. One Claire audience 209 00:18:52.319 --> 00:18:57.359 can also come out that you hear what people are actually thinking versus what they're 210 00:18:57.400 --> 00:19:03.160 saying. I had somebody that I worked with that said, ever since even 211 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:07.559 since they we're a little boy, that their mother could have the sweetest smile 212 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:10.759 and stay in the most gentle way, and he'd be like, stop yelling 213 00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:12.720 at me, because she'd be yelling at him in her head, and she 214 00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:15.920 would she told me this story. She'd be like, I'd be so sad 215 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:18.039 at him, and I'd take a deep breath and I'd go and I'd say, 216 00:19:18.319 --> 00:19:22.400 now, you know, they'd be like stove yelling at me, and 217 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:23.880 you'd go out, and I would because he was so sensitive. I would 218 00:19:23.880 --> 00:19:29.759 make sure. But he was extremely Clare audience Clarodian can also be that you 219 00:19:29.920 --> 00:19:33.799 get your psychic messages through voices in your head. Well, if you talked 220 00:19:33.799 --> 00:19:42.839 about books in your head, well, what's that called? Yeah, So 221 00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:52.920 the question is how many how many people that have schizophrenia could have started with 222 00:19:53.160 --> 00:20:02.880 just being Claire Audience and then we're pushed to a mental illness and then lived 223 00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:07.440 up to the label that they had and just had a psychotic break. Do 224 00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:11.000 I believe in psychotic breaks? Absolutely? Do I believe in demons absolutely? 225 00:20:11.079 --> 00:20:15.720 But I believe in demons is an energy, a demonic energy. It's an 226 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:25.839 emanating evilness, okay, and so when that comes in to somebody. Again, 227 00:20:25.920 --> 00:20:30.720 I don't want to get into a lot of stories here, because if 228 00:20:30.759 --> 00:20:34.319 we want to talk about demonic depression, demonic possession, we should talk about 229 00:20:34.319 --> 00:20:41.160 the GOP. Yeah, yeah, one one one will lead to the other, 230 00:20:41.519 --> 00:20:45.960 certainly, but I think it's a mixed bag. You know, if 231 00:20:47.000 --> 00:20:51.839 somebody is an EmPATH and they don't understand what that is and they're wide open 232 00:20:51.920 --> 00:20:55.359 and they're a strong impaths, they're feeling what other people are feeling, and 233 00:20:55.640 --> 00:21:00.279 they get so affected that next thing you know, they're manic depressive or fast 234 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:06.400 forward bipolar because they're constantly having all of these feelings that they don't have a 235 00:21:06.519 --> 00:21:11.119 reason to have, and they go into a hyperdrive of feeling management that then 236 00:21:11.200 --> 00:21:19.039 plays out in a mental illness way. So it's a it's it's complicated, 237 00:21:19.079 --> 00:21:26.400 it intertwines. Yeah, but if we if we if we recognize a very 238 00:21:26.440 --> 00:21:30.559 psychic child and told them it's okay and taught them how to deal with it, 239 00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:34.839 they're less likely to get labeled with some labeled because let's let's face it, 240 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:45.079 a m a APA and pharmaceuticals number one thing is what's our new thing 241 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:52.039 for the week we can diagnose, prescribe, and find a pill for because 242 00:21:52.119 --> 00:21:59.079 that's how we stay in the money. Yeah, so they're looking, they're 243 00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:07.720 looking, and you know, not that I'm saying all all anybody is bad, 244 00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:15.079 but let's say in general, that's what moved those industries is they don't 245 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:23.480 they're not they're not be healthy, stay healthy based right right with mental health 246 00:22:23.559 --> 00:22:30.720 with that physical health, you know. So anyways, but yeah, that's 247 00:22:30.720 --> 00:22:41.599 definitely a way in. And I think speaking of demonic possession, what happened 248 00:22:41.599 --> 00:22:44.839 in the House of Representatives this week? What do you think how's it going 249 00:22:44.920 --> 00:22:48.720 to play out? I'm gonna show or or Chris is going to get mad 250 00:22:48.720 --> 00:22:51.720 at me if we don't talk about politics, because you know this is my 251 00:22:51.799 --> 00:22:55.839 favorite show of his. A month is having you walk well. That well 252 00:22:55.880 --> 00:22:59.119 that that was actually going to be my next question because part of why the 253 00:22:59.200 --> 00:23:03.039 subject of demand of possession is so interesting to me as I'm trying to understand 254 00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:11.640 Matt Gates and is he uh it has is he possessed or is he just 255 00:23:12.039 --> 00:23:27.720 naturally malevolent sumptia he has no, No, I'm going to call it. 256 00:23:27.880 --> 00:23:33.920 I think Matt Matt Gates has a baby version of Trump and sees yeah, 257 00:23:34.279 --> 00:23:42.799 successful famous father who we don't know any about the relationship between this guy and 258 00:23:42.839 --> 00:23:56.599 his father, but he definitely shows some narcissistic tendencies. He is, you 259 00:23:56.680 --> 00:24:07.880 know, an intention seeking whore mm hm. And he I don't know that 260 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:11.039 the man actually knows when he's lying. See like with Trump. I don't 261 00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:15.319 think Trump knows when he's lying. I think trying that everything he says is 262 00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:18.640 the truth, even if he says the opposite two seconds later, that is 263 00:24:18.680 --> 00:24:25.720 the new truth. Yeah, it's pathological. It is pathological. I think 264 00:24:25.759 --> 00:24:33.759 there's a pathological nature to Gates. I go ahead, you said something though 265 00:24:33.759 --> 00:24:37.759 about it. Does Matt Gates have a famous father? He was famous in 266 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:47.400 the Republican Florida, the GOP Florida state. Oh okay, oh, right, 267 00:24:47.480 --> 00:24:49.640 right, right, Okay, it's coming back to me now, Okay, 268 00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:52.079 right, I'm sorry, Yeah, that makes sense. Okay, so 269 00:24:52.640 --> 00:24:56.799 he was he same, his dad is famous in politics or was in Florida. 270 00:24:56.920 --> 00:25:04.960 Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, and you know, ah, 271 00:25:07.000 --> 00:25:11.720 you know a lot of people are saying his strategy is he wants to run 272 00:25:11.759 --> 00:25:18.920 for governor because you know, DeSanto's is definitely on a crash and burn. 273 00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:23.200 And I don't know when it's going to happen, but I heard this, 274 00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:33.720 and maybe you can verify if you heard this. He has agreed to have 275 00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:37.480 a debate with Gavin Newsom, and Gavin Newsom is going to chew him up 276 00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:42.960 and stick him out. Yeah. I think that's happening last I knew. 277 00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:51.599 And I think Sean Hannity's going to be the moderator. Yeah, Gavin is 278 00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:59.400 going to serve him breakfast, lunch, and dinner regurgitated. Do that's gross? 279 00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:04.960 Yeah? But I mean yeah, do you think the stantis can best 280 00:26:06.759 --> 00:26:11.559 Newson? No? No, no, I mean Newsom is uh. You 281 00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:15.079 know, even people who don't like Gavin Newsom will acknowledge. I mean, 282 00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:19.480 he's he's pretty pretty sharp, he's smart, he's quick. We might have 283 00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:23.920 talked about this before, but uh, Patrick bet David, I don't know 284 00:26:23.960 --> 00:26:27.640 if you're familiar with him in his podcast, but he was talking to somebody 285 00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:33.559 about Gavin Newsom. And Patrick bet David actually left California, moved his whole 286 00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:37.680 business to Florida, everything because he hates Gavin Newsom so much and wanted to 287 00:26:37.680 --> 00:26:42.119 get away with him. But even Patrick bet David acknowledged that when Gavin Newsom 288 00:26:42.200 --> 00:26:48.119 sat down for that interview with Sean Hannity several months ago, that Newsom really 289 00:26:48.160 --> 00:26:55.480 brought it and Newsom was prepared and uh and and really knew his stuff and 290 00:26:55.599 --> 00:27:00.240 uh and was very sharp and impressive, and uh, you know, I 291 00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:03.880 think I think he should be the I think Newsom should probably be the Democratic 292 00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:10.680 nominee, to tell you the truth, but uh yeah, and DeSantis isn't 293 00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:14.119 that great a debater. I mean, you know, he had to debate 294 00:27:14.200 --> 00:27:18.279 Rick Scott and he did well enough to defeat Rick Scott. Uh wait, 295 00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:21.240 no, was it Rix? No, I'm sorry, not Rick Scott, 296 00:27:21.279 --> 00:27:25.240 who was a Charlie crist I'm sorry. He had a debate Charlie Crist and 297 00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:30.079 pretty well crushed him in the uh, in the election for governor is uh 298 00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:37.119 Desanta's reelection. So but no, I don't think he can handle Newsom. 299 00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:41.960 Now I'm going to tell you, and I'm sure you're going to not find 300 00:27:41.960 --> 00:27:48.240 this any surprise. I find some degree Newsom and Buddha Jedge are cut out 301 00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:56.160 of the same plot. Yeah, well prepared, highly intelligent. Newsom's more 302 00:27:56.200 --> 00:28:03.799 aggressive, but I think Pete getting more so. But this is the future 303 00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:11.279 of the Democratic Party is candidates like this. That's you know, our are 304 00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:15.519 our people that are sharp on top of it. 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So historic, 339 00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:45.960 the first speaker that's ever been bounced bounced out by his own party. 340 00:31:47.720 --> 00:31:51.039 How do you see this? You know we talked about what was it in 341 00:31:51.319 --> 00:32:00.119 first gate Gates and you know that whole trying to become the Florida Republicans. 342 00:32:01.240 --> 00:32:10.319 Of course, you know the numbers are working against him because there are more 343 00:32:10.480 --> 00:32:15.680 young people getting to the age that they can vote, and more old bag 344 00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:23.759 is dying, so Florida could shift back blue, you know, sooner than 345 00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:32.279 we think, and one good hurricane could be very helpful. Ah but eh, 346 00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:38.200 not that I'm wishing for one, mind too. No, well, 347 00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:44.839 actually too you mentioned that. But DeSantis seems to benefit from that, which 348 00:32:44.880 --> 00:32:51.079 I think helps keep Florida red because he tends to get pretty high marks for 349 00:32:51.160 --> 00:32:59.000 his handling of things after a hurricane. Floridians seem pretty happy with his his 350 00:32:59.440 --> 00:33:05.160 disaster. Your response from what I can tell, Yeah, but his own 351 00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:12.000 g OP supported in Florida is cracking. What I hear is yeah, well, 352 00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:17.279 they love Trump, they love Trump above above all else, and they 353 00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:22.720 want to get their invitation to margar Lago. You know, yes, they 354 00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:25.640 want to They want to be able to dive in the toilet and you know 355 00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:29.200 play, you know, like you know, you bob for apples, you 356 00:33:29.240 --> 00:33:34.599 bobb for secret documents. That's right, you know, go to any bathroom 357 00:33:34.640 --> 00:33:37.720 in mar A Lago and you push your head in and see if you can 358 00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:40.079 come up with a secret classified document and fell up at the highest fitner. 359 00:33:42.000 --> 00:33:50.960 Ah So, but also I have to ask, though I do want to 360 00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:53.200 stay on what you think is going to happen. With the House of Representatives. 361 00:33:54.279 --> 00:34:02.200 Did you see the Cassidy Hutchins interview one Jimmy Fallon? Oh do you 362 00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:08.519 mean Jimmy Kimmel or did she also? Yeah, actually I saw that just 363 00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:14.880 this afternoon. Yes, yes, So we may talk about that a little 364 00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:16.440 bit too. But let's stay with the House over us. What do you 365 00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:20.559 think is going to happen? We know what we we know what has happened. 366 00:34:21.679 --> 00:34:29.440 We know that Nancy Mace is on the outs with a lot of stablished 367 00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:36.559 Republicans right now. So if you want to do any review, quarterbacking, 368 00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:40.239 any any any armchair quarterbacking on what's led us to this point, feel free 369 00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:44.679 to do it. If not, then let's we can talk about what do 370 00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:46.880 you think? What do you how do you see the way forward? Well, 371 00:34:46.920 --> 00:34:52.960 I will say I and I said this on my show, I really 372 00:34:53.159 --> 00:34:59.960 kind of wish and I understand why they didn't, but I really kind of 373 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:02.519 I wish the Democrats had rescued Kevin McCarthy, which they could have done, 374 00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:06.679 and I'll tell you why. And by the way, I understand all the 375 00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:08.679 reasons they didn't, and all the reasons they didn't feel like they should, 376 00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:15.239 and why they were perfectly happy to let him burn, and on the merits, 377 00:35:15.320 --> 00:35:20.679 I could not effectively argue against any of those reasons why they feel that 378 00:35:20.719 --> 00:35:22.599 way. So they have a right to feel that way. I get it. 379 00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:28.039 I'm not trying to be critical of the Democrats on this. However, 380 00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:35.679 to me, just pragmatically speaking, it's the devil, you know, I'd 381 00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:37.119 rather deal with. And see, there we are, we're back to that. 382 00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:42.920 We can't escape at devils and demons and everything. But I'd rather deal 383 00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:47.280 with the devil I know than the devil I don't. And in not rescuing 384 00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:51.800 Kevin McCarthy, whom I have very little regard for, I'm not trying to 385 00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:55.599 defend him. But the problem is now, you know, we might end 386 00:35:55.679 --> 00:36:06.320 up with Jim Jordan as House Speaker. Of my deep concerns thinking long term, 387 00:36:06.360 --> 00:36:09.480 but not even that long not even that long term. Is you know 388 00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:17.039 what happens the next time it's time to raise the debt ceiling again and say 389 00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:22.360 somebody like Jim Jordan is House speaker at that point? What happens because at 390 00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:25.239 least Kevin McCarthy, as awful as he is for all kinds of reasons, 391 00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:30.280 at least Kevin McCarthy understood the importance of not of the country not defaulting on 392 00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:37.239 our debt. I'm not sure a guy like Jim Jordan cares. Steve Scalise 393 00:36:37.360 --> 00:36:40.280 I would trust a little bit more. He's a little bit more of an 394 00:36:40.400 --> 00:36:46.559 establishment Republican than Jim Jordan, who I think is perfectly happy to I mean, 395 00:36:46.639 --> 00:36:50.559 you know, don't get me wrong, Jim Jordan did not vote for 396 00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:53.440 the removal of Kevin McCarthy, but they're good friends. Jordan wouldn't do that. 397 00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:59.599 But I think he's a lot closer to that fringe, that Freedom Caucus 398 00:36:59.599 --> 00:37:06.840 spring than he is in terms of being a mainstream Republican. So I worry 399 00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:13.639 about where we end up now. Again, I understand the Democrats. They 400 00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:16.519 don't trust McCarthy. He's broken his word. Nobody can trust the guy, 401 00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:25.679 and I understand that. You know, he was not conciliatory toward them at 402 00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:30.440 all. Just this past weekend, before this all happened, he was McCarthy 403 00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:35.920 was on the Sunday talk shows trying to find ways to blame the Democrats for 404 00:37:36.039 --> 00:37:42.559 us almost going into a government shutdown and just you know, just being very 405 00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:45.199 partisan as always and just trying to blame everything on the Democrats, and apparently 406 00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:50.239 they played a video of that at the beginning of their meeting when the caucus 407 00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:53.039 meant to decide what to do if they were going to bail out McCarthy or 408 00:37:53.239 --> 00:38:00.559 just let him burn. So I understand all the reasons, and I think 409 00:38:00.599 --> 00:38:06.079 that if they were going to bail him out, if they were going to 410 00:38:06.119 --> 00:38:08.159 come to his rescue, it shouldn't be for free. Of course, you 411 00:38:08.159 --> 00:38:15.639 know they should get something for that, but but I also know it's it's 412 00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:20.199 hard to come to somebody's rescue who doesn't seem to want your help. Because 413 00:38:20.360 --> 00:38:24.960 throughout this McCarthy's attitude seemed to be I don't want the Democrats to help me. 414 00:38:25.119 --> 00:38:30.599 I don't like them, I don't need their help. But they could 415 00:38:30.639 --> 00:38:35.679 have done it. They could have rescued him, and I wish that they 416 00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:40.360 had because I'm very, very deeply concerned about what happens next. I'm very 417 00:38:40.400 --> 00:38:49.679 concerned. So I can't I can't blame them on the merits. I can't 418 00:38:50.000 --> 00:38:53.079 refute any of their arguments for why they didn't want to. I get it, 419 00:38:53.880 --> 00:38:58.599 but damn, I really kind of wish something could have been worked out 420 00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:04.480 here. I'd feel better with Kevin McCarthy there than Jim Jordan's or god knows 421 00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:10.719 who else. I'll say that, Well, what was the guy's name, 422 00:39:14.320 --> 00:39:25.320 Huster maybe, but he was the speaker of the House that resigned and ended 423 00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:32.559 up going to jail. Oh, Dennis aster pastor yep, faster, yep. 424 00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:39.639 And I was watching a commentator said, well, the GOP learned from 425 00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:46.519 its past. Probably not. But putting in a wrestling coach who who has 426 00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:52.920 allegations that in any way there was involvement in the abuse and the sexual abuse 427 00:39:52.119 --> 00:40:01.639 of wrestlers is probably not a good idea. And the people that are the 428 00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:07.079 witnesses are not letting it go. They're still speaking out. They're being out 429 00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:10.960 loud and saying we went to him, we told him, he did nothing. 430 00:40:12.559 --> 00:40:17.559 He you know, so he allowed it to happen, right and and 431 00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:23.360 so I just thought that was a wonderful little parallel. But you know, 432 00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:28.960 the GOP is so screwed up right now. The one thing I understand what 433 00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:34.360 you're saying about McCarthy, you know, it's that the time is coming gone. 434 00:40:35.079 --> 00:40:40.000 I think McCarthy might have been able to pull out some Democratic support and 435 00:40:40.079 --> 00:40:45.000 keep his gavel if he had, If he had gone on the morning shows 436 00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:51.920 and said, look, there are moderate Republicans that want to keep the government 437 00:40:52.000 --> 00:40:55.719 going and do not want all of these people to go without pay. The 438 00:40:55.760 --> 00:41:00.679 Democrats have come in, we worked as a team. That's the only way 439 00:41:00.719 --> 00:41:05.559 we're going to get anything done. I'm a speaker for the whole House, 440 00:41:06.719 --> 00:41:10.280 and we're going to start moving some things forward, and we're going to take 441 00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:15.440 the house back from a small groove of extremists. And I think if he 442 00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:20.039 would have been willing to do that and negotiating good faith with the Democrats, 443 00:41:20.599 --> 00:41:23.679 maybe they might have trusted him a little more. But yeah, the morning 444 00:41:23.719 --> 00:41:29.679 show thing was like I think he almost wanted it to do. I think 445 00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:32.079 it put him out of his visery. I think he knew when he was 446 00:41:32.079 --> 00:41:37.599 saying those things on the morning show that he absolutely was like, I'm done 447 00:41:37.639 --> 00:41:43.159 with this job. I think you might be right, uh, doctor Kevin, 448 00:41:43.239 --> 00:41:47.000 because I think if he had done what you just laid out, yeah, 449 00:41:47.119 --> 00:41:52.199 I think he could have. And I and I'm actually surprised that he 450 00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:58.559 didn't do that because I've been under the impression this entire time that, you 451 00:41:58.599 --> 00:42:02.599 know, keeping that gap was the most important thing in the world to him. 452 00:42:02.840 --> 00:42:06.199 I mean, he went through you know, if there's anything that I 453 00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:09.360 will have a tiny bit of grudging respect for Kevin McCarthy. You know, 454 00:42:09.480 --> 00:42:14.159 he doesn't, at least not usually, he doesn't give up. I mean, 455 00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:19.960 he went through fifteen rounds of votes before finally becoming Speaker. And you 456 00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:22.039 know, and I'll give him a little bit of credit. You know, 457 00:42:22.199 --> 00:42:25.719 when I was terrified that for the first time in our nation's history, we 458 00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:30.000 were actually going to default on our debt, and he kept saying, Nope, 459 00:42:30.000 --> 00:42:30.840 nope, we'll get it done, We'll get it done. And I 460 00:42:30.840 --> 00:42:36.079 didn't think he could get it done. Then he did, and you know, 461 00:42:36.559 --> 00:42:40.559 so I was surprised that he didn't do what you just laid out, 462 00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:44.239 to be honest with you, But I think you might be right. I 463 00:42:44.280 --> 00:42:47.880 think there might have been something in him that just said I've had enough. 464 00:42:49.440 --> 00:42:53.320 I can't I can't keep doing this. I've had enough, and I'm just 465 00:42:53.360 --> 00:42:59.880 gonna you know, screw it. He may have gotten to that point, 466 00:43:00.039 --> 00:43:06.920 yep. I when I saw that, I'm like, yep, he decided 467 00:43:06.960 --> 00:43:14.079 this is not worth his billa in Thoms. Yeah, and screw it. 468 00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:20.000 He He will be recognized that he kept the funding going on his watch, 469 00:43:20.880 --> 00:43:29.039 the government didn't shut down, the death ciling got lifted and in in the 470 00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:37.880 history books, uh, you know, you know Gates and the Gates, 471 00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:46.639 Demons, back to demons, Marjorie Taylor Green, Lauren Bober there, you 472 00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:52.719 know, in terms of Republican from where South Dakota or North Dakota or whatever. 473 00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:57.920 But I saw a clip of that was just interviewed and I can't remember 474 00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:00.960 what his name was. I remember it was from one of the Dakotas, 475 00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:06.159 and he said, the GOP has to fix itself because right now, electing 476 00:44:06.199 --> 00:44:08.599 somebody else to run the clown car is not going to do any good because 477 00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:14.400 it's still a clown car, right. I saw that quote. I forget 478 00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:15.679 who it was who said that too, but I did see that quote. 479 00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:23.679 Yeah, and I you know, I think that you're because there's a lot 480 00:44:23.760 --> 00:44:34.719 of Republicans who are in swing districts that are thinking, how am I ever 481 00:44:36.360 --> 00:44:39.840 going to get re elected if this shit show continues to spiral the way it 482 00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:45.199 is. Yeah, I loved I care. I don't don't remember what her 483 00:44:45.280 --> 00:44:50.039 name was. She was a woman of color, she was a bulldog, 484 00:44:51.440 --> 00:44:54.840 and she when she was making the list of and if Lauren and if we 485 00:44:54.880 --> 00:45:00.280 shut down, there will be eighty nine and thirty seven people that will that 486 00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:05.480 will will you know, not get paid Lauren Bobot's district and there are gonna 487 00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:08.599 be thirteen you know, like she had the numbers of every one of the 488 00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:14.559 Republicans that was blocking it and how many people in their actual districts we're not 489 00:45:14.599 --> 00:45:19.679 going to get a paycheck on the first week of October because of their shenanigans. 490 00:45:19.719 --> 00:45:23.480 Did you see that clip? I didn't see that. No, Oh 491 00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:28.360 my god, Matt, you have to find it. Yeah, she was 492 00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:31.079 on fire and she had the evidence raid in her hand. She knew down 493 00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:35.400 to the last person, how many people's jobs, how many people were not 494 00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:42.039 going to get paid if the government shut down in each of those troublemakers actual 495 00:45:42.119 --> 00:45:49.320 districts. Yeah, huh, Yeah, that was a powerful click. I 496 00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:52.760 think she might be a I think she might be from Florida, actually, 497 00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:57.800 one of the few Democrats from Florida. I'm not sure, but anyway, 498 00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:06.000 So for the w Wasserman Schultz, no, I don't think so. Okay, 499 00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:09.639 if I find the clip, I'll grab it and text it to you 500 00:46:09.679 --> 00:46:14.480 because you want to say it. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah. 501 00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:25.400 Yeah. So now this I think just happened before we went on air, 502 00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:30.360 and I know you go from your show to this show. But now they 503 00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:37.559 have filed a motion to dismiss all of the federal charges against Trump because Trump 504 00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:42.679 said he was just doing his job as president to make sure the election was 505 00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:45.559 done. And he's asked judge, I can't pronounce your last name off the 506 00:46:45.599 --> 00:46:53.760 top of my head, but the female judge in DC Chuckkin. Chuckkin, 507 00:46:53.840 --> 00:46:57.440 Yeah, Chrucktin. Method is it's hard, it's hard to keep them all 508 00:46:57.480 --> 00:47:07.320 straight. Yeah. Has has asked Chuckkin that this whole case should be thrown 509 00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:10.119 out because he was just acting as president to make sure they were fair elections. 510 00:47:10.800 --> 00:47:15.599 Oh oh okay, well in that case, why didn't he say so 511 00:47:15.599 --> 00:47:22.519 sooner? Yeah? I mean, like this is going to work, because 512 00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:29.239 what do you because you know, he just got a gag order, a 513 00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:34.679 very limited gag order, but a gag order from his current trial that he's 514 00:47:34.719 --> 00:47:44.480 going through. Uh, there's a conversation coming up about if, what if, 515 00:47:44.639 --> 00:47:47.000 and what the parameters of a gag order are going to be from Chuckkin, 516 00:47:47.480 --> 00:47:53.920 any thoughts on that? Uh, it's it's uh, well, the 517 00:47:54.199 --> 00:48:00.280 biggest problem to me and and I it really is like I was an hitting 518 00:48:00.320 --> 00:48:01.159 when I said it's hard to keep track of it all. I'm having a 519 00:48:01.159 --> 00:48:06.599 hard time even keeping track of who's looking at issuing a gag order, and 520 00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:09.480 who hasn't yet and this and that, because Trump insults everybody, and he 521 00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:15.280 tries to put everybody in danger, which he really does when he's talking about 522 00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:22.800 these people, and you know, there's always a risk that some militia freak 523 00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:28.719 is going to try to kill somebody, one of these judges or lock clerk 524 00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:34.039 or somebody. So, but one of the difficult things is if you put 525 00:48:34.039 --> 00:48:37.960 a gag order on Trump and then he violates it, which he will, 526 00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:40.360 what do you do? Then? Do you put him in jail? How 527 00:48:40.360 --> 00:48:44.639 does that work? I mean, we're in so much uncharted territory here. 528 00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:46.880 I mean, I'd be fine with seeing Trump thrown in jail. But we 529 00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:52.719 have the other problem of no matter what is done to Trump, whether he's 530 00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:55.119 indicted for something or thrown in jail for something, no matter what it is, 531 00:48:55.639 --> 00:49:00.360 all it does is make him stronger and helps him raise money. I 532 00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:05.960 mean, we're in such a incredible time. I mean, it's so bizarre 533 00:49:07.119 --> 00:49:12.519 I think the word you're looking for is dysfunctional. Uh yeah, yeah, 534 00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:23.519 definitely. Yep. Well he's not holding up. Well did you see the 535 00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:31.000 Fox News thing they did where somebody on Fox News talked about his his demented 536 00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:37.639 ramblings and gave several quotes he had given in the last week. Oh yeah, 537 00:49:37.639 --> 00:49:40.440 I think it was Tarlov on The Five who did that. Yeah, 538 00:49:40.440 --> 00:49:46.760 it was on the Five. Yeah yeah, oh yeah. And you know, 539 00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:52.519 if if Loretta James gets half of it and him was in his business 540 00:49:52.559 --> 00:50:00.119 license in New York and his stuff being put up for sale, which he 541 00:50:00.199 --> 00:50:04.679 already has, he's lost the case. Yeah, he doesn't understand he's lost 542 00:50:04.679 --> 00:50:07.960 the case. You don't you understand he doesn't understand he's lost the case, 543 00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:15.360 right, he doesn't get that he's lost it. Yeah yeah, uh, 544 00:50:15.880 --> 00:50:23.519 he literally does not get that the case is lost. And so if somebody 545 00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:29.480 in in receivership, somebody buys Trump Tower and they take Trump down, we 546 00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:32.320 could just see the poor man just, you know, fitting sucking his thumb 547 00:50:32.360 --> 00:50:37.280 and a diaper in the middle of Manhattan. I mean, that's so much 548 00:50:37.280 --> 00:50:44.880 of what makes him up. Oh yeah, of course, of course I 549 00:50:45.039 --> 00:50:50.280 noticed the pattern with him in his speeches where he seems to be because it's 550 00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:52.440 happened a number of times now, where he seems to in his mind, 551 00:50:53.079 --> 00:50:59.840 he confuses Biden with Obama. He talks about having he talks about beating a 552 00:51:00.000 --> 00:51:06.960 Obama in twenty sixteen, or yeah, he talks about Yeah, he talked 553 00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:10.079 about beating Obama in twenty sixteen, like he ran against him, and he 554 00:51:10.079 --> 00:51:17.719 he talks about you know, even the the Obama administration acknowledges how much of 555 00:51:17.760 --> 00:51:22.760 the wall that Trump built, and it's it seems to happen a lot, 556 00:51:22.920 --> 00:51:29.199 like he can't keep them straight in his head. Well, I ran across 557 00:51:29.239 --> 00:51:37.719 this old clip that when it was when Obama was still president and it was 558 00:51:37.719 --> 00:51:43.880 some kind of dinner or something, and Trump was at it, and he 559 00:51:44.039 --> 00:51:52.360 was and he was already running, but Obama was still president and Obama just 560 00:51:52.840 --> 00:52:00.159 humiliated him time and time and time again. Uh yeah, at the White 561 00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:06.519 House correspondence dinner. Yeah. And I think that this is part of what 562 00:52:06.679 --> 00:52:17.320 has made Trump obsessed with Obama because he humiliated him. Yeah. I agree, 563 00:52:17.320 --> 00:52:29.000 that's more than the Trump mind can take because it's inherently racist. It's 564 00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:42.920 inherently racist. It has a big huge white supremacist thing and he was humiliated. 565 00:52:43.599 --> 00:52:47.039 Yeah, I mean, and I think that in his mind as his 566 00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:54.239 mind is slipping because he won't be able to take these defeats. He's rightly 567 00:52:54.360 --> 00:52:59.760 not capable of taking that. We're going to see a psychotic break. We 568 00:52:59.880 --> 00:53:05.400 just have to hope it happens before I don't know. I mean, maybe 569 00:53:05.400 --> 00:53:07.280 we'd like to see it happened in the middle of it running for president. 570 00:53:08.360 --> 00:53:14.679 Yeah, before he before he's elected. Yeah, yeah, but maybe after 571 00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:21.159 he's got the nomination, right, But you watch, we can see it 572 00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:27.639 coming, the confusion, the screwing up, the name, stuff like this. 573 00:53:28.119 --> 00:53:30.800 Yeah, No, he's headed for some kind of psychotic break. And 574 00:53:30.880 --> 00:53:34.320 again, I just want to remind all my listeners. Though I'm a doctor, 575 00:53:34.320 --> 00:53:36.320 I'm not a medical doctor. I could not diagnose, I could not 576 00:53:36.440 --> 00:53:40.639 prescribe, and I am not doing this as a professional diagnosis. I am 577 00:53:40.639 --> 00:53:50.400 not a propinician. But he's going to have some kind of break if things 578 00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:54.519 don't somehow start taking up. And you know, I've heard a lot of 579 00:53:54.880 --> 00:54:07.440 talk about the possibility of will Chutkin. That's the DC one, Will Chuckkin. 580 00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:12.800 If Trump gets out of hand, she won't throw him in jail. 581 00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:16.000 She'll just move to trial up really quickly so he can't take the jewelry pool, 582 00:54:17.320 --> 00:54:29.119 which is his herst thing there. Yeah, so you know, and 583 00:54:30.559 --> 00:54:36.239 that could really be the beginning of James over if that happens, because you 584 00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:40.920 know, she made a statement somewhere, if you can't control him, then 585 00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:49.559 I'm we'll just I think I think the comment because it's not like it's just 586 00:54:49.639 --> 00:54:53.960 a fear she made. She made a comment of some kind and in that 587 00:54:54.039 --> 00:55:00.719 comment that was like, if he's gonna if he's not to stopping, he's 588 00:55:00.760 --> 00:55:04.840 gonna take the jury pool, we'll have the trial in October. Mm hmm. 589 00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:13.840 And she can and she can do that. Oh yeah, yeah, 590 00:55:14.280 --> 00:55:19.400 So I think there's a lot of movie pieces here. What do you think 591 00:55:19.480 --> 00:55:22.480 Nancy Mace is up to? Why did she turn on McCarthy at the last 592 00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:28.639 minute and not make herself very popular? Any any ideas? I'm not really 593 00:55:28.679 --> 00:55:31.039 I'm pretty puzzled by it, to be honest with you, I don't I 594 00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:37.599 don't know what her Uh I don't know what her game is. Okay, 595 00:55:37.679 --> 00:55:40.960 you know, I think she has a big future in the Republican Party, 596 00:55:42.000 --> 00:55:49.719 but uh, I don't know what she's trying to do. Go Trump Speaker 597 00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:54.360 of the House, Liz Cheney Speaker of the House. Probably neither, but 598 00:55:54.480 --> 00:56:01.199 I would take Liz Cheney. I take Liz Cheney too. Okay, well, 599 00:56:01.320 --> 00:56:06.079 I'm sure we'll have lots more to talk about when I talk to you 600 00:56:06.079 --> 00:56:09.920 next month. All right, Thanks, doctor Kevin. Thanks as always, 601 00:56:10.119 --> 00:56:12.800 have a good one. Bye you two.