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Joe Escalante live from Hollywood. By
Hollywood, you mean Burbank, across the

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street from a Wienerschnitsel. It serves
beer. And we are talking about the

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business of show business like we do
every week here on KiB eleven fifty on

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them wherever. But let's get to
the movie. Sam, h biggest movie.

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Well last weekend. We weren't live
last weekend, but I saw two

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movies last weekend. I know you
saw a movie and but very exciting movie

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times. Right now, let's go
to the top ten. Number one still

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Barbie holding on to a spectacular ninety
three million dollars in second weekend. It

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will be the seventh biggest second weekend
for a movie in history. Sam,

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Wow, what was number one?
Well, just this one's just a shade

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of head of Mario Brothers, which
did ninety two million. What's number one

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in the second weekend? I don't
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stat. Well, it's obviously just
living above a movie theater. I can

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definitely tell you that the traffic is
still there and everybody's wearing pink, So

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I'm assuming everybody's there to see the
Barbie movie. Still the lady the canter

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at my church this morning was wearing
pink as soon as she steps up to

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the ambo. My wife and I
look at each other and just went,

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she saw Barbie this week. And
then the Oppenheimer still doing, Well,

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that's the one I saw. Okay, so you saw Oppenheimer. Yeah,

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I saw Oppenheimer. You chose to
see Oppenheimer, not Barbie. Let's go

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let's let's talk about that. But
let me let me go over the top

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ten just a little bit, because
people just have to know what the top

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ten is. I mean, number
one is Barbie, as we said,

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Number two Oppenheimer, Number three Haunted
Mansion, which I will see after we

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sign off today on the program.
Number four Sound of Freedom. Sound of

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Freedom has done a four hundred and
forty eight total gross one hundred and forty

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eight million. Mission Impossible has only
done one hundred and thirty nine, which

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is number four. Talked to me
from a twenty four did ten million.

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That's new this weekend. Indiana Jones
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million total, and Insidious The Red
Door seventy eight million total Spider Man Across

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Spider Verse three hundred and seventy eight
million dollars. But let's stop. Let's

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let's take a brief look at Sound
of Freedom. I think it will drop

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off. I mean, it's added
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everywhere now. They added one hundred
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seven percent. But that is the
movie about the sex trafficking bust in Columbia

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where this guy set up a sting, set up a fake pedo island,

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and busted a bunch of pedophiles,
and they made a movie about him,

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and you know, all that stuff. A lot of controversy. People say

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that if you see that movie or
some kind of quan on nutcase. But

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you know, if you're a pedophile, you don't want people to see that

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film either. I've been hearing rumors
that it's getting astroturfed. A lot of

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the people are buying out tickets for
the theaters and selling them out, but

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nobody's there. Could it could happen, could happen? People could be um

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just trying to support the idea of
these two Christians, and these are hardcore

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Christians. Eduardo Vedastigi and Jim Caviesel. These are conservatives politically there, you

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know, lightning rods for controversy.
Some people wanted. There's two things.

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We're hearing. Screenings are being disrupted. They're turning the lights on, they're

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turning the air conditioning off. They're
trying to keep people from seeing these movies.

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And now we're hearing, well,
some people are buying up the whole

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theater and no one's even there,
indicating it's not really that popular, and

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pedophiles islands are not really that bad. I guess, so, h if

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you support this movie, it is
one way to reduce sex trafficking. And

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I think the reason why people don't
like it because not in the movie,

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but in the after, after,
after, after the movie, trying to

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solve the problem, you go,
well, you got to close that border.

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One thing you know you could do. You got to close that border,

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the southern border to the United States. If you want to solve this

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problem, close that border. And
that is controversial. Now that be now

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now it's become a political thing after
you say that. So um, yeah,

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so you're gonna have people on both
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a pedophile argument or a thing before
we get to the movie. Well,

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I'll talk about that, and that
remind me of a similar story in the

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music business when we get done with
this. So you saw Oppenheimer, What

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did you think. I was underwhelmed. I thought it was I thought it

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was nice that it was the only
movie that I've ever seen that was three

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hours long that moved. It was. It didn't have a moment where it

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felt like it was there was a
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Yeah, it was constantly in motion
and then it was moving along,

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so it was entertaining. I was
just expecting less fluff and more just you

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know, more concrete stuff, and
there it was very much. It was

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very much. I had a lot
of accuracy, and it was, you

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know, true to a lot of
the stuff. But it felt more like

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the Elvis movie did in relation to
Elvis's real life, and like then it

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did to actually Oppenheimer's real life.
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I get the feeling it would be
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although I guess he was a sex
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they made life. They made note
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Yeah, so you know, if
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I guess. But it's funny you
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movie to a friend of mine at
the Dodger game on Friday night. You

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might have seen me on the screen
the he was. I was trying to

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explain it to him, and then
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should see it. Then I remembered
he was the guy who I recommended,

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yeah, go see Elvis, you'll
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m okay. And then so I
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what, this movie was a lot
like the Elvis movie, and it's just

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Oppenheimer Elvis, and you might not
like it. So I retracted my recommendation

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for him to see it. Then
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of that brought up Elvis in this
for this movie. One thing I learned

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about before I saw the movie is, or after I saw the movie,

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or during that, there are very
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yeah, it's a very but there
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at the Palms. I was doing
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weekend and so you know that's in
the day. So I got tickets for

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Sunday night and they got a seventy
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in Vegas. So that's like where
you live, you live on top of

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a movie theater. I was living
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days, but there was a seventy
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a difference. I saw it was
fun. Yeah, I saw that they

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were doing seventy seventy millimeter screenings of
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there they had the Imax seventy millimeter, I'm like, I gotta find a

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screen that has that, because really, that is the kind of movie that

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you want to see on a big
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will never do it justice. The
Brendan Theater in the in the Palms Hotel

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in Las Vegas so nice and there's
very few seats because it is a luxury

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theater, like you're you're you're far
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wide. Very interesting. Um.
It was closed for a while until the

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Yamava sem Manuel Indian tribe bought the
the hotel. But wow, what a

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place to see it, and I
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a little like, um, just
coming at me so much stuff, and

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some people the criticism also is,
you know, there's no they left out

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a lot of the didn't show.
They didn't show, you know, Hiroshima

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and Nagasaki get obliterated like in a
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didn't show how many you know,
it didn't generally hammer home how many people

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died, although they didn't hide it, but they didn't. Some people were

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wanting more of that, more battle, or maybe even more talk about like

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I kind of want a little talk
about Well, to me, the story

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is not complete unless you talk about
how many people get killed in these Japanese

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firebomb things they were doing where they
would set whole cities on fire, and

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hundreds of thousands of people were dying
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oh, well this bomb saved lives, um, you know, I'm not

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sure if I believe it. It's
it's something that will be debated throughout history,

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but you know, I'm not I
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that. But then again, it's
a movie about Oppenheimer, so it's it's

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it's not called uh, you know
world War two nuclear theories. It's Oppenheimer

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movie about him so great. I
know, I know plenty about him.

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Florence Pugh always great in the movies. Sam, how much time do we

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have. Let's take a break.
Okay, when we come back, I

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will tell you what one of our
listeners said to me about Florence Pugh.

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Some of you listeners went to my
punk rock tours. Thank you next time,

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I'll expect more of you. Joe
Sclante live from Hollywood, back after

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the traffic. Joe west Bolante Live
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Burbang. Two hours in the business
end of show Business, we were talking

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about Oppenheimer. Sam, you saw
it. I thought Florence pu Okay,

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here's what I was gonna say.
One of the one of the people might

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where as I do these tours,
two tours a day at the Punk Rock

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Museum for four days. One of
the tours, we have a one of

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our listeners. Her name was Valerie, and she was very upset that I

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talk about Florence Pugh so much.
She said she feels sorry for missus Escalante

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because I'm always talking about the delights
of Florence Pugh. On the screen.

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But you know, what are you
gonna do? Is a movie star?

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You know, I know that in
real life she doesn't look as half as

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hot as my wife because they're putting
makeup on her and stuff like that.

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But you know, what are you
gonna do? What's my wife doing while

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she was watching Ryan Gosling? If
my wife had a radio show, would

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be nothing button Ryan Gosling. In
fact, the show would probably be called

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Ryan Gosling. So but my apologies
to listeners who I am offending with my

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Florence Pugh talk. Um. Okay, so you didn't see Barbie, No,

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but I'm gonna see it this week
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Barbie also at the Brendon Theater at
the Palms Hotel in Las Vegas, and

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I saw it on a big screen
whatever big the non imax, but fancy

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bigger screen there they had that that
was also delightful, funny, And criticism

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of that movie is like it gets
a little weird. Well there's the woke

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criticism. Everybody, Oh, this
is a woke movie. I think you're

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really short changing yourself if you describe
this as a woke movie and you're and

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you're going to base your decision on
seeing it before that for that reason.

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First of all, this is Hollywood, Okay, all movies are woke to

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some degree or another, you know, going back to since like I think

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Apocalypse now is the last big movie
that wasn't woke. Probably, Um I'm

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just making up these these stats.
I don't really know, but I just

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threw that out there. Um now, Barbie, Yeah, who cares?

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Woke? Woke? That put your
mind in that world? Is it funny?

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Are you watching funny things? Are
they they're they're making the criticism is

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these um sometimes people said it was
anti man or the the these the rants

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that were being made by the star
um or the one of the stars,

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America Ferrera. Uh you know what
these are. It's like, you know,

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it's a woman power movie, but
it doesn't. It's not black and

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white. It just asked to me, that's what it's asking questions about what

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it is to be a woman,
how hard it is. And then they

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go they get in the you know, the conflict between being beautiful and being

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uh you know, empowered or whatever. I think that's interesting, so let's

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have that debate. But then they
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then then as the plot goes on, they gotta you know, they gotta

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overcome some hurdles, you know,
like story structure stuff, and they go,

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well, here's here's where, here's
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fix it. It got really confusing, Sam, like you're like, what,

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wait, what are they going to
do? How's that going to fix

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things? And so hard to follow
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Who I mean, I don't follow
every movie perfectly. I mean, try

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following any Christopher Nolan film, but
I would say Barbie was almost as hard

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to follow as Oppenheimer at times.
But then you know, and then and

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then they wrapped it up and you
think, how are they going to wrap

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it up? And they wrap it
up and you're like, you're you're satisfied,

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you're laughing. The criticism for my
wife was not enough ken and not

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enough song and dance. Uh you
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there's a few dances and she wanted
more to that. Uh, I get

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it. Um, So I'll see
Hannah Mansion tonight looks funny. I'm hearing

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mixed stuff like, hey, it's
okay, but the trailer's cool. Every

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single employee at Disneyland has seen it. They have screenings for them, and

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I feel a little left out.
You should be able to wiggle your way

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into one of those screenings. I
can't see why not I should. I

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wiggled my way into the employee former
employee Facebook page like cast member former cast

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member. Okay, due to my
stint at the Disneyland Hotel selling nutt and

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boatman I made out of iron when
I was ten years old, Sam,

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Wow at a job. It's my
first job, Disneyland Hotel And explain that

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to the people to Facebook and they
go, Okay, you're in. None

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of the kids in my recess the
next day would really believe that I worked

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at Disneyland, because that's what I
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and they didn't believe me. But
I was really tired at school because it

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was it went to eleven. It's
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Friday. And my teachers would go, why so tired? I go,

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I worked till eleven and I'm ten. It's going strong at this kid,

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what are you reading Deliverance? Give
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school? Okay, um, so
what movies are people talking about. It's

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kind of like it's almost over,
except for the summer's over for blockbusters other

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than Teenage Mutant, Ninja Turtles,
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And that's it. Who kept Blue
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into the Blue Beetle? No?
The trailers look nice, but I'm DC

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has to give me something that doesn't
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right, I'm with you? And
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a Blue Beetle. Yeah, yeah, Disney snow White looks dreadful. Um,

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so we'll see, all right.
I did see another moving but it

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was a movie, but it was
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It was on Netflix. It was
The Clone Tyrone with Jamie Fox and John

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Boyega. That sounds fun. It
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entertaining movie. I enjoyed it.
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get Rotten Tomatoes. People love it. It's scoring super high on Rotten Tomatoes.

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Entertaining movie and that's free if you've
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Therefore, you came out last week
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A Clone Tyrone you heard it from
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to my stories. There's a TV
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is ostensibly illegal show kind of in
a way. Chuck Norris has just settled

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a thirty million dollars suit against CBS
and Sony over Walker Texas Ranger profits.

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Usually I don't do stories about profits
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people don't understand it on the radio. But basically, I'll break it down.

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He has twenty three percent share of
all profits from that series. How

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did you get that twenty three percent? Sam? How do you think he

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got them? He threatened to do
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didn't. No, I gave it
to him. You get them the roundhouse

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kick. Now, I back in
the nineties, I made this deal.

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I I constructed the profit definition that
Chuck Norris is suing under, and I

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gave him his twenty three percent.
After some negotiations, he wanted more and

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he ends up with twenty three percent. But what and so what they do

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is they'll add so many fees and
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and there's nothing on them. And
then you got to sue to have a

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judge look at him, go,
what you guys are nuts? This This

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is not fair. It's not what
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that. Now he's anyone, and
now he's suing Forum that they're they're putting

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it on like a subscription video on
demand channels and and they're saying that that

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doesn't count or something, and they're
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his preferit. So he went back. This is what people have to do

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in TV. He went back and
sue and he got his money from uh,

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the series, but you know,
the series generated six hundred ninety two

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million dollars in revenue, so far
he wants his can't say I hate him

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for it. Yah, you know
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man. Yeah, and I'm serious. He the dude doesn't do push ups.

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He pushes earth down. You don't
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You do not want to mess with
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uh, if you I've probably talked
about this before. If you watch the

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reruns of Whatker Texas Ranger, you're
gonna hear Chuck Norris sing his own theme

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song. And that was at my
at my urging, because he sent me

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to take a cassette of a song
that someone had written at the end of

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season one or during season one about
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he goes, what do you think
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think I had to do with this? And I think he was thinking that

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should we release it? I go, this should be the new U,

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this theme of the series, and
you should sing it. Long story short,

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I got him a vocal coach.
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we got him in the studio and
he sang the theme song and it's still

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there. So I got that going
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We will be back in a bit
and we will talk about some bad

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celebrities out there, some good news
about bad celebrities. Joe's go want live

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from Hollywood. If by Hollywood you
mean Burbank, all right, talking about

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Hollywood, what do you think we
do here? Cardi B? Have you

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seen this on the YouTube or the
TV? Cardi B? She's playing in

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New York or in Las Vegas.
I don't know how she's doing it.

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Last weekend, it's like one hundred
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outdoor show and someone throws a drink
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they were just it looked like a
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ice, so look like but it
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it hits her, goes all over
her, and then she throws her microphone

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just right at the guy. So
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was funny is how nobody mentioned that
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her, at the at the at
the perpetrator, somehow the she was still

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singing. It didn't nothing changed.
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So she was yelling at this person
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still permeating the air and perfect.
It sounded just like the record. So

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you might want to look at that
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and there's no mention of it in
the article. I think because she's a

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victim here, she's beloved by the
press, and she just got something thrown

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at her, and so she throws
the mic. Everybody. It's very satis

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find watching her throw the mic at
this idiot, and then you just don't

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want to bring up like Hey,
what the hell's gone on here? But

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she lip sinking, but of course
he's lip sinking. Um. The other

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story about bad celebrities I have is, um they are Remember the show about

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the Crizlies where the guy went to
prison, Well, he's all the guys

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that a lot of reality starts have
gone to prison. One of the most

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high profile and flamboyant of the reality
bad boys is h is Todd Chrisley from

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krizly knows best. I tuned into
this show and I don't know why.

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Why are you guys famous? I'm
fine if someone's famous, even just they're

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just famous for being famous. I
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think the draw is how gay the
husband is and how I could see elephant

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in the room and the wife doesn't
know this guy is gayer than Liberacci from

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space and he it turns into like
embezzling, and you know, these people

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are trying to keep up a lifestyle. And this guy goes to present but

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now he's petitioning because he says the
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terrible. You know, there's rats, and there's squalor, there's one hundred

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and degree temperatures, No air conditioning, no nothing. Um, it's a

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nightmare. But it's like this,
you know, people don't feel sorry for

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him, should they? Maybe,
I mean maybe it's terrible, but you

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know, he just kind of pops
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him even more. There's a lot
of Um I want to talk about the

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Elon Musk trademark for the new Twitter
using the word X yeah. Um.

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And it's it's hard to come up
with a name that isn't going to be

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challenged when you're if you're a high
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trademark world, there's a bunch of
people like somebody comes up with a trademark,

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big thing, and then there's all
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hey, wait a second, so
that was my trademark. Now, the

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Trademark Office is supposed to be the
guardians to say I cannot give you a

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trademark that will harm another person's mark, and or they call it false designation

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of origin. People might think twitter
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also too close to the name of
some other trademark, or people might think

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that that the trademark that was already
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so it can cause a lot of
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trademarks are are issued more for the
protection of customers rather than the trademark

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holders. Unlike the copyright. A
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of a work and so something no
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a little bit different. It's trademarking, you know, a service or a

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product so that the consumers know where
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a Disneyland in your backyard and put
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walk by and say, oh,
Disneyland has a little satellite roller coaster over

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here, and then you would they
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they would be flung into a ditch
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I thought Disneyland had safety standards.
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no, we won't let people use
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to come into play with this X
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just said there are like nine hundred
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their trademark. Yeah, and it's
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I was like, what, it's
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Um, it's not it's not,
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intelligent move. No, I don't
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hear he has all his other like
SpaceX, and he has all these other

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EX companies, and he's trying to
consolidate it into an X thing, and

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he thinks he can win and he
can buy off people and he can fight,

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and then then he has this EX
world. I get that. So

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we'll see it's gonna be a lot
of trademark issues and a lot of um,

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a lot of litigation and a lot
of stories for Joiscalante Live from Hollywood.

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Um, how how are we doing
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We got about three minutes. Uh. Yeah. One point I want to

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make is like that tweeting is something
that's like a brand. It like y,

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Twitter is a real, a world
recognized brand. Tweeting, the act

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of boosting stuff and retweeting is some
thing that you can go to other pages,

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other like sites that do some more
things and you're still retweeting. It's

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like something that's part of the brand. So anybody using X is going to

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be tweeting and calling it tweets.
Yeah, exactly and that the problem that

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I now see is like he took
a brand that was world famous, wildly

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profitable, and now it's like he's
doing everything he can to disassociate from that.

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Yeah, I'm I'm in agreement with
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see it seems like one of those
things where they retract it, like like

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Coke new Coke. Um, So
I think it's a new coke, is

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what we can call it. A
lot of people using they throw that term

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around new Coke a lot for mistakes
and businesses, some of them. Most

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of the time it doesn't apply.
I think this applies. This is new

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Coke. Yeah, so, yeah, good for you. Here's another there's

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a piece of music news here.
We're gonna do some music news in the

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next couple segment, but i'll preview
this one. There was a there was

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a legal or a city council vote
in Irvine. That's you know, Orange

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County, just south of Los Angeles, where the Irvine City Council killed the

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negotiations with Live Nation to run their
amphitheater in their city because they're building this

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giant park in Irvine. It's going
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And it's got an amphitheater. And
once this came out, it used

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to be like these sweetheart deals or
like a Live Nation comes in and says,

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look, you guys don't know what
you're doing. We'll run the amphitheater

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and we will pay you rent three
million a year in this case, and

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we'll make forty five million a year
out of it, or something like that.

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And the city council doesn't know what
to do because they don't have to

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run an amphitheater, and the city
council members like they don't want a lot

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of work, so they just go
for it. Here in Irvine, the

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city council, like three of the
members stood up and said, we're sick

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of this. We don't think this
is right. And it was a it

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was a weird, very very interesting
battle. And now it's one of the

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first places where Live Nation didn't get
to like walk all over these people.

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And now they said we Live Nation
said, well, we'll let other people

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have concerts in this amphitheater. But
in practice, what I understand is you

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only get like Monday nights if you're
some outside promoter or whatever, so you're

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you're stuck with anything that Live Nation
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control all these tours and they put
them in these amphitheaters and then there's no

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one else is allowed to to and
there's many other you know, promoters.

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There's not just Live Nation in the
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a pretty low variety of music if
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Live Nation run everything, and that's
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You know, I got nothing against
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it. But it's just better for
everybody. And I never got to see

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it illustrated by until I saw this
city council fight about like what it means

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for a big giant company to own
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to let other promoters use it.
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city because they're not they're getting cheated
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good deal for these citizens who want
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because these people down an Irvine are
like, they don't want to drive

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to La to go to the Hollywood
Bowl all the time to see the major

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acts, and that's a Holly Bowl
is rough Greek Theater is rough. Get

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the parking in and out, and
so now they got their building they're trying

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to build, you know, the
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It's just like you know, they
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know, plastic in a way,
but it's plastic in a good way.

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They built a city, pre planned, master planned city, and they want

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they want their Hollywood Bowl. So
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looks like they're going to get it. So if you see articles about the

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Irvine Live Nation thing, you can
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right, how much time we got? Now break? Okay, we're gonna

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take a break and come back with
mar Joescalante Live from Hollywood. Joe Joe'scalante

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Live from Hollywood. By Hollywood,
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couple more things about Live Nation.
We were talking about Live Nation and the

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00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:55.279
Irvine fight in the last segment.
Live Nation is soaring profits. So there's

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two articles that the surface this week. One was Live Nation revenue soars amidst

407
00:32:00.079 --> 00:32:02.319
wrong concert demand. This year,
the company reported more than one hundred and

408
00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:07.799
seventeen million tickets sold for Live Nation
shows so far this year, which is

409
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:10.400
up twenty percent a year every year. And don't get me wrong, I

410
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:16.200
play Live Nation shows all the time. They're always good, but I also

411
00:32:16.240 --> 00:32:24.880
like the competition. But then they
they're being investigated because by Congress, and

412
00:32:24.920 --> 00:32:30.440
they're investigating there. They're always under
a surveillance because when they merge with Ticketmaster,

413
00:32:30.599 --> 00:32:34.200
the government said, okay, you
have to let us have a supervisor

414
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that can watch you and make sure
you don't commit anti trust violations that are

415
00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:44.680
against the Sherman Anti Trust Act.
And so they're always being monitored. But

416
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:50.160
then then the Swifties come into this. The Swifties are so mad at them.

417
00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:52.440
You can now be a politician and
get points by going after Live Nation

418
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:58.920
because they're blamed for all the Swifty
stuff because of the ticket Master debacles,

419
00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:02.640
even though technically they're not even the
promoter of these of these these uh Taylor

420
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:09.759
Swift concerts, but they get all
the heat. Um so uh, they

421
00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:14.240
got this oversight and everything. But
now the politicians are coming down on them

422
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:19.039
because the Swifties are so mad that
the ticket to buckles and how hard it

423
00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:22.400
is to get tickets and how expensive
that that's the new they're the new punching

424
00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:24.720
bag. Um. All right,
we're gonna get to the strike in just

425
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:29.519
a minute. A couple other things. A security guard was beat to death

426
00:33:29.759 --> 00:33:34.680
Saturday night Sunday morning at the Dragonfly. Um, did you hear about this

427
00:33:35.279 --> 00:33:39.160
beat today? Beat beat to death? It was a you know, kind

428
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:49.440
of an indie hip hop rapper headlining
at the at the Dragonfly. And uh,

429
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:53.400
if I was a Dragonfly, I
wouldn't book indie hip hop, wouldn't

430
00:33:53.400 --> 00:33:58.400
do it. Um. These guy's
a big swarm of people came at two

431
00:33:58.400 --> 00:34:01.160
in the morning. All right,
it's harassing the security guard two in the

432
00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:06.119
morning. You know, nothing good
goes on up two in the morning in

433
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:10.840
Hollywood and they beat the guy to
death. That's so yeah, not cool.

434
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:15.800
Um. Not only would I not
go to some indie hip hop thing,

435
00:34:15.840 --> 00:34:19.599
I've been to boo some indie I've
been to hip hop riots that were

436
00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:23.239
in major venues and they're scary.
But at an indie thing where there's you

437
00:34:23.280 --> 00:34:29.280
know, one security guy, I
wouldn't go. Um. It's more dangerous

438
00:34:29.320 --> 00:34:35.239
than Tunetown. Did you hear that? Did you see these things with a

439
00:34:35.320 --> 00:34:37.800
Lana del Ray working at waffle house? I did. I thought that was.

440
00:34:38.159 --> 00:34:42.119
I don't know what the deal is, but I always love it when

441
00:34:42.199 --> 00:34:45.159
you see people that are like really
well known celebrities doing stuff like that.

442
00:34:45.639 --> 00:34:50.000
Yeah, so I thought it was
at first. I believe did one hundred

443
00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:52.519
percent. You know, um Andy
Coffin worked at Jerry's Delhi. It's probably

444
00:34:52.519 --> 00:34:54.960
the most famous ones of these.
While he was on the air on Taxi

445
00:34:55.400 --> 00:35:00.320
that was performance art. Lana del
Ray is just cool to doing something weird.

446
00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:02.159
I love it if it's true.
But now I think it is true

447
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:08.400
because it's now being reported. Also
in alongside the Ed, she ran working

448
00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:17.119
at Chicago's iconic The Wiener's Circle in
Chicago. Yeah, I would like to.

449
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:22.320
I would like to get a job
at Award Wieners in Disney's California Adventure.

450
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:25.960
But no one would care. They
would just say, Okay, yeah,

451
00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.239
that's where you. I figured you'd
end up here. You know.

452
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:30.599
No one would say, like,
huh, Joe, You're a giant celebrity

453
00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:35.559
working at Award Wieners. They would
just go, that's just kind of sad.

454
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:39.079
So I probably won't do it.
I would like to work at Disneyland

455
00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:43.079
doing the canoes, though I don't
care if anyone thought it was sad when

456
00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:52.960
I was doing that. Also,
some news about floating around that Sean William

457
00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:57.800
Scott, who played Stiffler on American
Pie, only got eight thousand dollars for

458
00:35:57.840 --> 00:36:00.719
that. I saw that, and
so he about a car for five thousand,

459
00:36:00.920 --> 00:36:06.599
and then you know, he was
still working at the La Zoo as

460
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:09.920
a churro guy. So I think
this is floating around a show like how

461
00:36:09.960 --> 00:36:13.599
hard it is to be an actor
and how it's not you know, they're

462
00:36:13.639 --> 00:36:15.320
not all rich. Even if some
guy like Stiffler was a you know,

463
00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:21.039
a sensation and that movie came out
and hundreds of millions of dollars at the

464
00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:22.920
box office and he got eight thousand
dollars. But you think about it.

465
00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:25.719
You gotta think about this. You're
making that movie, you got a budget,

466
00:36:25.719 --> 00:36:28.800
you're trying to reduce the budget,
and they say, hey, this

467
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:32.840
movie is too expensive, go back
and cut the budget. If you have

468
00:36:32.920 --> 00:36:37.079
someone like Stiffler who's never been in
another movie, why would you pay him

469
00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:39.679
anything other than sag scale? So
you pay him sag scale. So it's

470
00:36:39.760 --> 00:36:46.599
not like they're cheating anybody that would
just pay sag scale. So I guess

471
00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:50.679
the counter to that is, yes, Joe, well, that's what we're

472
00:36:50.679 --> 00:36:54.000
trying to do. We're trying to
raise sag scale so Stiffler doesn't have to

473
00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:59.679
work at the tchurroplace for as long
as he had to work at the churiplace.

474
00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:07.400
So Sarah Silverman is upset because she's
saying she's going after actors that are

475
00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:13.000
working. There's still a few contracts
that are not that are kind of different

476
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:17.119
that you can still work as an
actor if you're on this indie contract,

477
00:37:19.440 --> 00:37:24.599
for example, and then there's some
you know, kind of reality shows that

478
00:37:24.639 --> 00:37:30.320
actors can still work and make money
while the strike's going on. Sarah Silverman

479
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:31.199
is saying, no, no,
no, no, don't do any of

480
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:35.960
that. We all have to be
united. And if we're not united,

481
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:38.800
it's never gonna work because you're gonna
make these And there's some famous actors I

482
00:37:38.840 --> 00:37:44.719
guess that are in these indie films
they're working right now. And Sarah Silverman

483
00:37:44.920 --> 00:37:47.280
said her and her wealthy friends have
turned down all the offers they've gotten,

484
00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:51.320
and the other people have said,
hey, I gotta make a living,

485
00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:55.239
and my guild, the Screen Actors
Guild, said I could be in this

486
00:37:55.280 --> 00:38:00.079
movie and she's saying, well,
shame on the Screen Actors Guild. We

487
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:04.599
all you know, she's this hardcore. You know there's different levels of union

488
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:08.960
labor protesting. She is hardcore.
She says, she's really pissed. I

489
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:15.440
believe her. I'm just glad I'm
not somewhere where I'm really pissed. I'm

490
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:20.159
in the Screen Actor's Guild. I
would like these guys to make progress and

491
00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:27.239
get more money for the actors.
But I'm not really pissed. And you

492
00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:34.079
know, it's just me. But
it's the union that's allowing them to do

493
00:38:34.119 --> 00:38:37.679
this. Another thing about the strike
right now that's going on. We're approaching

494
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:43.519
the ninety day mark. The ninety
day mark is in many of the agreements

495
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:46.719
with the writers who have overall deals, and this is gonna this is like

496
00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:53.840
tragic for a lot of them.
An overall deal in the TV writing business

497
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:57.599
is like the holy Grail. It's
what you get after you've had a few

498
00:38:57.639 --> 00:39:00.119
hits or many heads and then you
say we're gonna make an overall deal with

499
00:39:00.159 --> 00:39:02.719
you. I'm going to guarantee you
four million dollars a year and you're gonna

500
00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:07.079
write scripts and pitch them to us. Exclusively, and we're going to every

501
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:09.639
time you write one, we're gonna
say, okay, we're gonna knock one

502
00:39:09.719 --> 00:39:15.119
hundred grand off you wrote another one, and if you wrote so many that

503
00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:16.800
got more than four million, then
we'd start paying your cash. But we're

504
00:39:16.800 --> 00:39:21.360
going to advance you four million dollars
a year. That'd be a small one.

505
00:39:21.559 --> 00:39:24.599
That's not even a big one.
We're gonna keep paying you this.

506
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:28.440
And let's say our deal is we're
going to guarantee you for two years.

507
00:39:30.079 --> 00:39:35.559
Now, there's a clause in there
called a force massure clause which we have.

508
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:39.559
We have to pay you this unless
there's a force massure, meaning like

509
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:45.079
a pandemic, an act of god, something like a writer strike. So

510
00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:49.480
after ninety days they can just say, hey, we're terminating. You're overall

511
00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:52.840
theal and we're not paying you anymore. And will they will? Will you

512
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:59.400
get it back after the writers strike
happens. Fat chance. So that's like

513
00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:04.920
coming up a first. That's a
rough one. Yeah. The other striking

514
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:13.079
news that we we're talking about during
the break was the the accusations by the

515
00:40:13.119 --> 00:40:20.559
writers of the Actors Strike strikers that
NBC Universal has trimmed to their trees.

516
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:24.719
They have denuded these trees that used
to provide shade for the it's for the

517
00:40:25.000 --> 00:40:30.280
that's right outside our studio. There's
these big trees all up and down,

518
00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:35.559
the really old trees all up and
down the boulevard, and they provided shade

519
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:39.480
to the strikers and they have been
denuded, so there will be no shade

520
00:40:40.159 --> 00:40:47.119
for you. NBC Universal says this
is just routine maintenance. But there's an

521
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:52.159
LA official saying he's going to look
into the matter. What do you think

522
00:40:52.199 --> 00:40:55.199
see him? Well, we definitely
got to see it. Apparently they had

523
00:40:55.239 --> 00:41:00.920
already scheduled the tree trimming ahead of
time, so it something that was already

524
00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:05.519
there. But yeah, with the
weather as as brutal as it is,

525
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:08.719
it was the one thing that offered
the a lot of the protesters or some

526
00:41:08.800 --> 00:41:15.440
kind of shelter from the heat,
and obviously the people at NBC Universal had

527
00:41:15.440 --> 00:41:19.119
no problem with them sweating it out. Yeah, it's very interesting. I

528
00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:22.960
would agree with you that would like
it's i mean, the tree maintenance.

529
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:27.800
It's like, you know, probably
scheduled the routinely, you know, a

530
00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:30.000
year in advance or something. But
you know, so someone could have said,

531
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:36.880
hey, let's postpone that so that
the strikers can have shade, but

532
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:39.199
that would never happen, so they
just let it roll. So I don't

533
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:45.920
think that investigation is going to uncover
anything, but you know, officials,

534
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:51.440
city officials and politicians certainly love to
to get involved and stuff like that.

535
00:41:53.800 --> 00:41:57.639
Have you been down there. You're
not into guild. No, I'm not

536
00:41:57.920 --> 00:42:02.159
union, but I've driven by it
and I agree that they should get paid

537
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:07.320
their fair share considering how much money
is flowing into streaming services and stuff like

538
00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:12.039
that. I'm with you, Sam, all right. So you strikers out

539
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:17.480
there ain't tough, and uh I
will leave you. It's just a taste

540
00:42:19.519 --> 00:42:21.280
of the greatest song ever written.

