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I on the Ball and Welcome back
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I'm Steve, He's Jay. Now
we have Jason with breaking news.

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This is I on the Ball.
Breaking news. Okay, Arizona Baseball is

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hiring a Boston College Kevin Vans,
to be the new pitching coach. You

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know, I mean, he's apparently
done a great job over Boston College.

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I don't know if he's somebody that
uh that Chip Hall has known in the

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past. That's the first thing I
thought right away that you know, that's

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the question. Um uh, you
know, you know it's fine. How

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do you get a job like that? Right word of mouth? People refer

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you. Obviously you have to have
the numbers, uh, you know,

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to show you know what you've done. Um Jo was under the depression.

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Maybe this is old news and I
don't know the news anymore. It takes

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a while for them to hire.
Isn't like a two week, ten day

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I don't know how it doesn't work
where they let go somebody. They have

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to wait a while to post,
to post the job, wait a while

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and then hire because this just happened. Yeah, well they well they had

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to have posted the job right when
probably when you know that next day the

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jobs. That's why they haven't made
it official because a certain amount of time

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has past. I think it's two
weeks. I think it's fourteen days or

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fifteen business days or whatever it is. There's a because they're a gut because

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you know, you have as the
government, so that's still old. Yeah,

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so that's why that's why there hasn't
been an announcement. Everybody' found out

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he's getting the job, and that
that's not any different from anywhere else that

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you work, right, you know, the job gets posted and two before

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before it gets announced, everybody knows
who's getting the job. Um, the

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time obviously ran out for what it's
probably your next breaking news item is that

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softball is hired a pitching coach.
Uh um what what what's his name again?

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Christian Conrad? Christian Conrad at Loyal
and merrymount. Um. You know

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that time has elapsed so they can
make the announcement. But that's that's just

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the case. That's just what you
always have to do. That's why I

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wasn't sure that was still holy Okay, so go ahead and announce that.

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Yeah, so I'm Arizona's off ball
as hired Christian Conrad as their assistant pitching

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coach. We've kind of determined that
both teams had very good talent, they

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just didn't have very good pitching,
right and not to say that that would

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have helped them get to the to
the tournament, both the women now the

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women because uh, because it was
it would it would have been tough.

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But but that's what they're definitely lacking. Yeah, yeah, no, I

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it both teams, you know,
struggled with that and it was it was

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the story all year long. Um, so you know it started, you

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know, start with the clean slate
and see what happens. Arizona Soccer lands

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a commitment from Utah transfer a hearn
Ford, who played in eighteen games last

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season as a freshman. Okay,
okay, um some news for the basketball

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team perdue in Arizona are finalizing an
agreement to play on de Sceumber sixteen at

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gain Bridge and Gainbridge Field House and
in in indepulous. Yeah yeah, yeah,

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that's gonna be good they played there. Uh, they played Perdue twenty

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some years ago, twenty one years
ago when Arizona's headed to the Final four

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and two thousand and one, I
think it was two thousand. Um No,

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look, fantastic schedule, man,
schedule final Finally, I mean playing

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some games, playing some This is
I'm here at home, this is we

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all talked about this. Uh,
go back to what Loot used to do.

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This is better than what I was. I was just gonna say,

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Lute never had this many of these
teams on his schedule. I mean,

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you know, they go playing the
you know ninety or Classic whatever, wind

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up playing some good team, but
just you know, one off games like

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this. We're just one at a
time that I can't remember schedule has had

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that many of the you know,
the Sean definitely didn't do it. And

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now here's a good, good time, a good time, a great time

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to be a fan, especially because
they're gonna be some of them some of

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those. Yeah, some of those
are here. And when in Phoenix you

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can get to Alabama's and Phoenix.
Yeah, one of the other Michigan state

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I think maybe here in Vegas.
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Duke November twenty thirty versus Michigan,
UM stayed at in California. UM.

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The December ninth vers Wisconsin he is
here, Yeah, the sixteenth or December

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UM in Innapulas. And then the
twentyth versus Obama is in Okay. So

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one of them is gonna be one
here. But then Duke comes here next

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year, right right. I wonder
what louts thinking right now? Cool,

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it is finally win some of these
and you know, and again, I

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know, my thought on this is
always in why don't they play more in

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these games? Because when when the
ncable A, they're worried about having too

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many losses when the NC doable A
tournament comes around. Yeah, let's take

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this. Hi, you're on the
air and on the ball. Hey this

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is I thought. I jumped in
with you guys, talked about softball and

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UVa's basketball schedule. Go all right, Doug, let's go. Oh are

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we on? Yeah? Yeah,
you're on the air. Oh my bad,

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I thought I was being screen take. Yeah, we just screened you

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there. You're good. How nice. It's good to talk to you guys

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again. Um. Yeah, As
far as softball goes, I think college

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softball does have an Oklahoma problem you
talked about like Yukon women's basketball, but

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imagine if Yukon women's basketball also got
to play the championship every year in Hartford.

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That's that's the That's the problem right
now with softball is that Oklahoma not

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only are they getting all the talent, but they're also playing in there,

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basically in the suburbs of Oklahoma,
you know, right near Norman. So

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um that that's gonna be I think
it's gonna be a stranglehold that's gonna be

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hard for other programs to break.
What do you guys think? I definitely

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an advantage, you think so definitely? How much do you think of an

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advantage? You see the crowd last
night? One, yeah, and only

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that way. You still have to
get there and perform. But I don't

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I agree with Doug in terms of
it's right around because it's like everyone playing

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softball and in Phoenix they're gonna have
the fans in there. Yeah, I

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get. I mean, certainly there's
some advantage, I just but it's always

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just want to help, yeah,
and it's always been there, right.

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I think the bigger problem with with
Oklahoma is not so much that they're getting

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to play the national championship in their
city. It's that they've got somebody out

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there that's piling money on top of
the program and they're able to suck all

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the good players out of all the
other schools. Ask you, Yeah,

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I'm not I'm not saying that the
home home field advantage is why they're winning

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championships. I'm saying that it's what
draws the top players to play there,

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or at least it's a it's a
factor. I'm sure that money would be

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another factor, but there's I mean, there are other programs out there,

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you know, Florida, Alabama.
I mean, some of these programs that

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have huge pockets, deep pockets that
could also attract players um and draw them

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away from the West Coast. It's
just kind of sad to see because man,

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I missed those old you know,
you have a UCLA rivalries. Yeah,

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it's good for the sport to have
different different champions here and there,

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But I just don't want to see
Oklahoma win it every year. It's could

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be dug in your deep pockets.
I'm assuming you have deep pockets. How

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much are you contributing through you Yeah? Let's well here, Well, let

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me ask you this Doug, But
what's done. Let me ask you this

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though, you know, was it
was was there an Arizona problem when Arizona

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was Winny national championships every year?
Or was there a UCLA prop You know,

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it's just I think that it's just
where we are with you know that

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Oklahoma has is doing this and the
question is how long will they keep doing

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it? And well the Arizonas and
UCLA's ever catch up. Again, well,

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the sport was younger, and so
I mean, actually it probably was

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a problem for all those other programs
that we're trying to start up because u

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A won eight of them and UCLA
won like twelve of them. So that's

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like twenty out of maybe twenty three
twenty five years that two teams dominated.

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So it is probably healthier for the
sport that then other teams started getting involved.

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Kennessee, Michigan, you know,
some other teams. I won't mention,

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but but yeah, I just think. I just think because they're also

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playing in Oklahoma City, that just
it's something you haven't really seen in any

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other sport where the most dominant program
is also playing right in their backyard every

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year. You know, at least
that they could wrote if they could rotate

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the event, that would feel a
little bit more balanced. But I wanted

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to talk about you have a basketball
a little bit. Um. That's pretty

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cool that we added Perdue. Perdue
has been like a sneaky nemesis to Arizona

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Sports. I don't know if you
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a program We've got and done all
that well against Um. You mentioned you

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mentioned that game. I don't remember
if it was two thousand and one or

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what. I think we were like
really high coming off of Maui, like

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winning the championship in Mauie. I
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Maybe it was the n I T
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they, you know, they upset
us. No, you your your recollection

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is spot on right. They left
Maui, they went directly to Purdue.

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It was kind of a big deal. Wooden was still around uh something,

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you know, he was back from
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beat that was just in gardener time
too, right, Yeah, I know,

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you're right, right, And we
also, yeah, we also lost

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to them a ball game that a
bowl game in football. That was kind

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of a real disappointment. And then
there was that sixty something. Another couple

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of times we ran into these guys
and Zach Edy just announced he's coming back.

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That that would be interesting to see
Umar Ballo going up against you know,

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the seven six guy or whatever he
is. Um, that'll be that

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would be a fun matchup that that
will be fun. You know, I'm

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glad you mentioned that because you know
Umar is gonna be There's gonna be a

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lot of attention on him both you
know, when teams played them, but

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just the attention he's going to get
from a media standpoint nationally. You know,

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he's a you know, he really
stepped up last year. If he

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can, if he takes a big
step like he did last year, he's

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going to be one of the top, you know, top big men in

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the in the country. And that'll
be a matchup that the media will jump

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on and pay attention to. Zach
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fun. But if you if you
think back to what what b perdue in

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the tournament as a sixteen against a
one I think it was Florida Atlantic they

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or is it Harley Dickinson. I
guess they were just you know, they

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had little little guards running circles around
him. And you know, so I

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think you have a has bulked up
its backcourt enough that that you know that

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that might actually be the bigger storyline
if you really are next as the those

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guys as opposed to the big man
matchup. But um, but I agree

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with you. It's just it's really
fun to see so many cool non conference

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matchups this year. Um, it
would be the one, the one.

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The one big difference I'll this point
out is, uh, Lou always used

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to squeeze one in during the Pac
twelve season, a Pac ten season,

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you know, as another game the
same week as we play a su And

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uh, that's one element we don't
really see anymore. But you know,

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yeah, we'll keep play real quickly
with just a few seconds. Doug,

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Um, were you on Sean Miller
negatively in April? What were you hoping?

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And then all of a sudden he's
come through with the recruit Sean Miller?

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Well, you know, I know, Doug, so yeah, he's

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got gun. Oh well, oh
well, first of all, was Sean

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I was happy to see him succeeding
in Zavier. I'm sure that's not what

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you're asking, but Tommy, Um, I wasn't on Tommy's case, I

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had faith that he would recruit.
I was just really upset with some of

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the guys that left and the decisions
they made. Although sometimes it might feel

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like addition by subtraction because maybe we're
improving our defense with some of the guys

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that left, but um no,
I was willing to reserve judgment. I

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was kind of laughing at all the
trolls that were just freaking out with Tommy.

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Yeah, I was. I was
waiting. Yeah, okay, cool,

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good, good for you, Thank
you, Doug, thanks for listening,

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Thanks for calling. Yeah, okay, cool, okay. Yesterday,

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at the NCA Double A Outdoor Championships
Track and Field, Tayley Bonds advanced to

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the Saturday's one hundred meter hurdle finals. Um, so she'll be moving on.

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We've had her on the show,
right, That's why she's in the

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finals because she was on our show. Him and Guy Story Guys, and

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then Alexa Parpara keizy I won the
NCA Double A Elite ninety award as well.

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So okay, I wait, what's
the Elite ninety. I don't know.

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I don't know what that is.
It sounds like a very very prestigious

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it is. I'm not sure that
exact details about to see that she went

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out a war. Yeah, okay, congrats to both of them. Um.

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Some national news. Uh, DeAndre
Hopkins is going to be visiting the

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Patriots, so as another team he's
looking to positively sign with. Um any

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thoughts on that. Good luck to
whoever gets Yeah. Do you think you

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know it's DeAndre Aden you mentioned?
Yeah? Do you think he's gonna end

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up in Phoenix? I think he's
gonna be traded. It sounds to me

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like they want to get rid of
it. Yeah. I think he might

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get moved. Um. I know
there will be a discussion with them,

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but I think he's most likely gonna
going to be moved the Sun. The

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Suns will be very different if if
Deandre's gone and if Chris Paul is gone,

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and I know there's still some Chris
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back, but they're both gone.
Man, that's gonna that's gonna look a

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lot different. Yeah, for sure. Um. The Panthers have elevated rookie

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Frank Reich said, Um, it's
next step. Yeah, makes White way

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So it's a lot of you know, potential pressure on him. So we'll

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see how he lives up to yea, so go get him. Yep,

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he got a little Well, we'll
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had the same reservations you do with
the guy. Where are you up in

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the north? Um? Some executives
around the league league believes that the Timberwolves

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will trade Carl Anthony Downs in the
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a possibility he might be moved to
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Um. And he thoughts about that
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thought that would be a switch for
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Would you like that? Would you
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I think he's better than DeAndre.
Yeah, I think that might be interesting.

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Yeah. So Um former Chiefs d
N Frank Clark, it's um saying

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in the AFC West but signing a
one year deal up to seven seven point

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five million dollars with the Denver Broncos. Um. Frank, as you guys

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know, just won the championship with
the um Kan City Chiefs. Um.

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He had five sacks this past season
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the championship. Run about that?
Crazy? How these guys just move around

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right when a championship and goes somewhere
else, Like when Aaron Donald left you

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know, you know, uh uh
he left the Rams right? No,

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who is who am I thinking?
No? No? Von Miller, Yeah,

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von Miller, you know left.
Denver goes to the Rams when the

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super and now then he goes off
somewhere else. Whoever col pay them the

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most money on it? Like still
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nineteen seventy five women when you're making
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we're gonna have Andy Lopez command.
We'll just talk about the current state of

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college baseball. But he thinks about
stuff going on, and we've he's already

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told us he would not want to
be coaching right now, but is interesting

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to see what he would do to
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are I'm doing well? See thanks
for having me. Yes, great

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to have you. This is that
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A few times. I would have
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it, now, you know what
I do miss? I do miss postseason

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baseball. I really do. It's
funny. I was just I was talking

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to Mark Wazatkowski yesterday morning because he's
in the Superregionals your tech. He's going

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to be going about an hour against
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we were talking and Any asked me
saying, he said, looks, I

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bet you don't miss all this.
I said, you know, it was

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I don't miss all of it,
but I do miss postseason because it's there's

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just, uh, there's a different
buzz when you're in postseason, I mean

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regional, Superregional's, World Series.
There's just a different feeling. Though I

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really I enjoyed the postseason. I
really did. Were there any times Andy

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that you we're surprised that you got
in and then you kind of because of

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that you were able to make the
most of it. You know what I'm

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saying. Just you know, we
talked about the run to Mississippi had last

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year. Right, they were last
team in then they go in the national

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Championship or were you expecting to get
in pretty much every time you got in,

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Yeah, I was. I was
on the I was on the USC

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Andy Stinkwood side a few times.
And he's an ex player of mine.

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He's an ex player of mine.
I just think they did a tremendous injustice

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too. The UFC now, I
mean they were sixteen seventeen games in the

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fact twelve conference and they're not in
postseason. That's a travesty I had.

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That happened to me a couple of
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you. I thought the year after
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we won like, I think ten
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our season. We started off slow. We still up a little bit when

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we won ten a row in conference
the last part of our season, and

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um, and we weren't and we
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So I had a couple of those, but I never had what you just

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described. I kind of pretty much. Okay, we're in good shape,

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we're going to get in and then
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it. And you did. You
did have some pretty good runs. So

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you've been away for it. I
don't want to say, maybe not ten

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years, but almost ten years now. I think almost almost ten years now.

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You're still young men. In my
mind, Um, what's going on?

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What's going on with m with the
world of sports? And I asked,

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I asked, I asked, mister
Gonzalez. Here it was there a

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time we're calling a kay chaotic.
I don't know if you feel the same

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way, but money and I l
transfer portal blah blah blah. When was

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there a time when it was not
crazy? You know, this is an

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amazing story. This is unbelievable.
In nineteen ninety eight, I was at

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the University of Florida. We had
a really good team effect We went into

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Olmaha that years the number one team
in the nation and the number one seed

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going in the collegural series. Three
or four weeks before the postseason. We

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played at LSU and the you know, Hall of Famer legendary coach Skip Bertley

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was a coach at LSU and we
were good friends, and we still aren't

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very good friends. But he came
over. It was a rain delay and

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he came over. He was sitting
in our dugout and this is nineteen ninety

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eight, and he and Skipper is
a great guy. He's got a great

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sense of humor. And he asked
me how old I was? Right,

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he says, uh, he said, And I can't mimic, but he's

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got a very distinct way of talking, but I'll try. He says,

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hey, Lopez, how old are
you? And I said what coaches said?

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How old are you? And I
gave him my age. You know,

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I was pretty younger. I appreciate
your kind words. I'm sixty nine

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years old. How young can I
be? Come out step? So I

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appreciate your words of compliments. And
so I gave him my age and I

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was forty eight forty something like that. And he says, and he went

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ooh, ooh, ooh, what's
going on? Coach? He says.

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He says, oh, you're in
a bad spot. You're a basketball And

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I said, no, Coach,
to be honestly, we got a really

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good team here. He goes,
Oh, I know that. I know

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that, he says, But you're
stuck. You can't get out because you're

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not old enough like me. I'm
about to get out, he said,

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I'm about to get out. You're
stuck. You can't get out. You

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got a wife and what four kids? I said yes. And he says,

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and you're too year ago. Make
a change because they're probably pays it

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so much money now. And I
said, uh, well, what are

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you talking about? Coach? He
says, college. This is nineteen ninety

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eight, and we have talked on
numerous occasion since then. I said,

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coach, how did you know?
Now? For those that don't realize this,

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Coach Burmer was a spoke coach at
LSU, w five national championships in

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the nineties, and then he became
the athletic director. In fact, he

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hired Nick Saban to be the baseball
football coach at LSU and then he won

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an after championship and saman went to
the Miami Dolphins and he went to hell

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Bell and anyway, So I said, how do you know, coach?

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He says, I can see it
coming. I can see it coming.

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He said, Uh, it's gonna
be different. He says, it's too

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bad. You're stuck. You're right
in the middle college athletics is going to

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be really different. And that's all
he said. That's all he said.

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And man was the profit. Wow
there my opinion. There is no college

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athletics anymore. I mean, it
doesn't exist. Yeah, it doesn't exist.

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It's funny and I understand this.
And man, hey, listen,

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my mom and dad are both from
Mexico. Um. I grew up in

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a house with bars on the windows
and two bullet holes in the side of

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the house from a drive by shooting. I grew up in the projects of

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San Pedro. Um. You know, I know. I went to UCLA

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and I had I had financial aid
money and some other scholarship money and baseball

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money. So I understand when people
say, oh, you know, the

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guy can't go out and buy a
pizza on a day. They can't do

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this, they can't do that.
Man, I understand that. I was

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there. I was there. No, you go ahead, no, no,

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but you know, I mean I
understand the theory and the thought behind

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you know, we you know,
we got coaches making millions and millions of

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dollars and you know, athletic departments
and TV contracts and this and that.

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And hey, I was in the
professor for thirty eight years. So I

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understand it. I understand it,
But man, I really think I don't

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think the powers to be really fought
the whole process out, and I think

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I don't think they can get it
back in the in the drawer anymore.

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I think it's out of the drawer
and I don't think they can get it

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back in. I was gonna,
I told you, I'm going to give

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you one great title for you.
For you, you are the king of

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the NCAA. How do you fix
it? Or is that too devil of

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a question? Oh? Man,
it's the greatest monopoly I've ever known in

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my lifetime, sixty nine years of
age. I don't know another monopoly like

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the nc DOUBLEA. They have no
competition, so they do whatever they want,

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whenever they want, however they want. And a nice job. They

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did a really good job, didn't
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Pelgi Athletics. Pelogi Athletics as we
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is just a really good situation.
Well, you know, I mean all

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the stuff that that's entered into this
And we're talking to Jake Fish a little

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earlier, I mean back when he
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nine to twenty thirteens when he was
year and this is this goes back to

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then when they were you know,
they wanted to get paid for the video

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game that was that that, you
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this ball rolling. It's taken ten
years, but now we're at a point

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where, you know, coaches like
you, Mike Andrea, Dave Rubio,

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and I'm sure gazillion coaches at other
schools would just rather not be a part

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of this. Oh man, I
don't go. I don't go. I

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bet I don't go more than a
month without talking to guys that have gotten

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out and they give me a call, Hey, coach, how you're doing.

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These are all baseball coaches for the
most part, and they're either on

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the cusp of getting out or they're
already retired in the last year or two.

406
00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:55.839
I just talked to a guy.
I just talked to a guy two

407
00:26:55.960 --> 00:26:59.920
nights ago. And they all have
the same They all see the same thing,

408
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:03.279
they all say the same thing.
I mean, I got out because

409
00:27:03.319 --> 00:27:06.960
I couldn't be the coach I was
all those years after heart surgery. I

410
00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:10.359
just I just wasn't the same guy. I felt like I was still in

411
00:27:10.440 --> 00:27:14.319
money from the university. I did
a horrible job my last year two years

412
00:27:14.319 --> 00:27:18.160
of coaching, and I just I
wasn't the right guy anymore and they needed

413
00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:21.160
a new guy, and they made
a great decision in Joe, and life

414
00:27:21.200 --> 00:27:25.279
moves on. But but these guys, boy, they all say the same

415
00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:29.400
thing. Man, Hey, I
couldn't take it anymore. It's crazy.

416
00:27:29.640 --> 00:27:33.799
It's just absolutely nuts. So I
remember your post your retirement press commerce and

417
00:27:34.039 --> 00:27:37.359
one of the things you highlighted was
the flipping. You know, I just

418
00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:41.799
can't take the flipping. You know, the guys who committed them decided to

419
00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:45.160
change, and I get that,
I totally get that. But now flipping

420
00:27:45.319 --> 00:27:48.400
is the least of the word,
because now you have to people getting paid.

421
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:52.160
Okay, here it is. I
was a high school. I was

422
00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:56.000
a high school I got hired in
nineteen seventy eight. Nineteen seventy eight,

423
00:27:56.079 --> 00:28:00.720
I was a high school teacher in
Manhattan Beach, California, Sonlifornia, and

424
00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:03.279
we had a big special meeting.
The district had a big special meeting all

425
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:11.400
the teachers, all the teachers,
and the two biggest agendas in nineteen seventy

426
00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:18.240
eight were there's too much gum underneath
the desk, many pieces of you don't

427
00:28:18.240 --> 00:28:19.920
know what this is a true story. Too many pieces of gum underneath the

428
00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:25.720
desk. And too many students are
walking across the street at lunch hour to

429
00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:29.960
go to the Humancdonalds. We can't
let them do that because of safety purposes.

430
00:28:30.319 --> 00:28:34.240
Those were the two main issues in
this hour long meeting, right,

431
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:38.720
Yeah, yeah. In nineteen and
twenty fifteen, when I retired, yeah,

432
00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:41.680
I was. It was. The
flipping thing was starting to really wear

433
00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:45.920
me out. I could not believe
that kids were saying commit, I'm committing,

434
00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:48.519
and then they would flip, and
I'd go like, what in the

435
00:28:48.680 --> 00:28:52.920
world are we doing in this thing? Holy smokes a noo. They're flipping

436
00:28:52.960 --> 00:28:57.559
after they get here, right,
some guys are flipping four or five you

437
00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:00.400
know. Oh man. I mean, well, not only that, but

438
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:03.359
I mean I put on these college
baseball games right now, and I know,

439
00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:08.200
I know COVID as a big factor, but I mean, the guy's

440
00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:12.519
got twenty five home runs and he's
twenty five years old. You got guys,

441
00:29:12.599 --> 00:29:17.519
they're twenty five years old playing college
baseball. Wait a minute, but

442
00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:21.279
you gotta you gotta. You got
a nineteen year old software on the mountain.

443
00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:25.039
He's nineteen years old, and you're
telling him, Hey, we'll get

444
00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:27.440
this guy out. He's twenty four, twenty five years old. Man,

445
00:29:27.559 --> 00:29:33.240
I mean that's crazy. So let
me let me also disappoint you or depress

446
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:37.240
you with this one. Okay.
So Andy Lopez has been coaching for twenty

447
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:41.279
five years, thirty years, and
he has this phenomen He's getting paid X

448
00:29:41.319 --> 00:29:44.200
amount of money half a million dollars, quarter a million dollars to come and

449
00:29:44.279 --> 00:29:48.960
play baseball. How in the world
you motivate this kid because someone else in

450
00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:51.720
America is making that play? How
do you get this guy to do it?

451
00:29:52.440 --> 00:29:56.680
Hey? And you know there's a
lot of voices in their ears now

452
00:29:56.799 --> 00:29:59.759
too. Man, there's a lot
of people you know. I said this.

453
00:30:00.160 --> 00:30:02.440
Ever, I just said this the
other day because I went out and

454
00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:07.720
I did a Fellowship of Christian Athlete
baseball hitting camp out here in Marana at

455
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:11.279
the Hitting Factor on Monday and Tuesday. And at the end of both sessions

456
00:30:11.319 --> 00:30:15.160
I told the players, I said, now, the most important thing in

457
00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:18.079
your day we're about to end at
noon. I said, the most important

458
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:19.079
thing in your day, and I
said, this is my players all time.

459
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:23.799
Is the drive home, the drive
home when you drive home right now,

460
00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:27.599
are you gonna bash your coaches?
Are you gonna bash your teammates?

461
00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:32.039
Are you gonna blame someone else?
Or are you gonna drive home and say

462
00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:33.920
to your mother and father or you
or the buddy you're driving with, and

463
00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:37.200
you know what, I gotta get
better tomorrow. I gotta get better tomorrow.

464
00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:40.960
You know what, I gotta get
better tomorrow. Or you're gonna say,

465
00:30:40.960 --> 00:30:42.079
oh, that coach said, I'm
now he's talking about that guy.

466
00:30:42.119 --> 00:30:45.279
I know he's talking about it.
Or are you gonna say, I'm gonna

467
00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:48.440
get better, I'm coming back to
practice tomorrow and I'm gonna get better to

468
00:30:48.519 --> 00:30:52.599
ball man, they got so many
voices in their ears now, I mean

469
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:56.720
you got kids, and they got
agents, they got advisors, they got

470
00:30:56.799 --> 00:30:59.720
this, they got that. I
mean, oh man, it's a money

471
00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:03.000
but it's a money tank, man, it is. It's a it's a

472
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:06.400
money tank. I mean, you
got okay. I watched the young man

473
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:11.039
last year an Air Force ball scheme
my Sons at the University of Mexico.

474
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:17.240
I watched him in person. University
of Mexico Air Force Academy three game series,

475
00:31:17.559 --> 00:31:19.759
and this young man threw on Friday
night and he was stick tacking,

476
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:26.279
and then he caught on Sunday and
he hit third the whole weekend earlier.

477
00:31:26.480 --> 00:31:30.960
He transferred to LSU and he's gonna
be probably the number one or number two

478
00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:34.799
pick in the nation. Okay.
Not many people know this now, this

479
00:31:34.920 --> 00:31:38.920
is from the Air Force Academy,
guys, this is the Air Force Academy.

480
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:42.839
I mean I was always I was
always always under an impression that when

481
00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:45.839
he went to the Army, the
Navy, the Air Force Academy, you

482
00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:52.000
went for a whole different reason,
right, and you were committed afterwards,

483
00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:55.400
right, I mean even after you
had to stay in, you had to

484
00:31:55.519 --> 00:32:00.119
commit to the service. Roger,
right, that was their best picture went

485
00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:02.240
last year. He's going to pitch
Broilsue either the night or more or night

486
00:32:02.240 --> 00:32:06.519
I guess Tom all night, Okay. And he's phenomenal. He is absolutely

487
00:32:06.559 --> 00:32:08.799
phenomenal. Well, not many people
know this. I know this only because

488
00:32:08.880 --> 00:32:12.640
my son is in the same conference. My son called me about two weeks

489
00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:15.079
ago. I say, yeah,
remember air Forces an Air Force this year,

490
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:20.000
Air Force Academy this year. You
remember their closer there was ninety three

491
00:32:20.240 --> 00:32:22.119
ninety four with that really good breaking
bar said yeah, yeah, yeah,

492
00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:25.920
he's just yeah, he's in the
transfer portal. So think of that.

493
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:30.720
The Air Force head coach for the
last two years is going to lose his

494
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:37.279
two best pitchers and he's coaching at
the Air Force Academy. Yeah. Wow,

495
00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:40.519
that doesn't make a lot of sense. So basically, great job by

496
00:32:40.559 --> 00:32:45.920
the NCBLEA. You have you have
the armed forces being decimated by the portal.

497
00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:50.640
No, no, we talked about
that. I'm talked about this a

498
00:32:50.640 --> 00:32:54.319
couple days that schools like Air Force
and smaller schools are organ donors to the

499
00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:58.720
bigger schools because hey, we need
an arm Well go get him. He's

500
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:00.880
an air Force. Yeah. I
never I never thought a while in my

501
00:33:01.000 --> 00:33:05.160
wildest dreams that I think I'd say
this to myself. My son last year

502
00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:07.000
came home and said, you know
this and that he's visiting. He's going

503
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:09.279
on he's on his way to Phoenix
to recruit. I said, hey,

504
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:13.640
what about that one kid from Texas, that freshman you got, what's he

505
00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:15.119
doing? And he said, oh, yeah, he's gonna go out and

506
00:33:15.119 --> 00:33:19.480
pitch to summer. I said why, He said, well, what do

507
00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:21.680
you mean, Dad, Because I
said, my players at all the time,

508
00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:23.519
and he was one of my players
right play for the four years.

509
00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:25.759
He said, well, Dad,
I want him to get more innings.

510
00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:30.839
I said, you're never gonna see
him. He's gonna go pitch the summer

511
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:34.680
and he's gonna be gone, and
he'll be gone. A power a power

512
00:33:34.680 --> 00:33:37.319
of five school is going to see
that guy and they're gonna offer him money

513
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:40.720
and you'll never see him a day. And you know what the sad thing

514
00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:44.680
about Steve. He looked at me
and he went, oh my god,

515
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:47.279
you're right. I said, Michael, you're going to tell that guy to

516
00:33:47.279 --> 00:33:52.799
stay home and don't let him out. Here's the downside, do it.

517
00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:57.000
And here's a guy that coached for
thirty eight years, you know, all

518
00:33:57.039 --> 00:34:00.519
over the dog gone country in Japan, Korea, Taiwan. I know in

519
00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:04.000
my heart that young guy should go
out pitch this year because he gets better

520
00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:07.000
by playing the game. Yeah,
but if you send him out to pitch,

521
00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:09.880
you might lose them in summer.
Do a power five school. That's

522
00:34:09.960 --> 00:34:15.840
what happens. He comes back this
year and guess what, he doesn't pitch

523
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:19.039
this summer. My son tells him
stay home and work on this and do

524
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:22.280
that and do that. He comes
back to summer and gets what's because he

525
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:29.760
has a horrible year. He has
a horrible year. Yeah, to lose

526
00:34:29.840 --> 00:34:32.320
lose man, Right, that's terrible, right? All right? Andy?

527
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:35.960
So real quick, Um, who
do you got in the College World Series?

528
00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:38.840
Wow? I think there's about four
or five teams that could win that

529
00:34:38.920 --> 00:34:42.639
thing. I really do the game. I think the ball is a little

530
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:45.000
bit lively this year. It seems
to be a little bit juiced. Um,

531
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:49.519
so offense is going to be a
bigger factor than it's probably ever gonna

532
00:34:49.519 --> 00:34:52.599
be. I still believe the team
that's the best pitching is gonna win.

533
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:54.800
But there's about five or six staffs
that could get hot. I mean,

534
00:34:55.000 --> 00:35:00.440
wake Forest has the best numbers overall, but Florida's got really good number pitching

535
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:04.320
wise. Um, our two teams, you know, Oregan and Stanford.

536
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:07.840
Uh, they check the boxes.
And I'm obviously I'm really good friends with

537
00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:13.440
David Asker and is like a son
to me of watching an Oregon um their

538
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:19.159
little thin on their pitching pitching depth, I should say, but I think

539
00:35:19.199 --> 00:35:21.519
there's five or I think there's four
or five club that can win it,

540
00:35:21.559 --> 00:35:24.159
I really do. Real, coach, you like to talk to you all

541
00:35:24.159 --> 00:35:30.079
the time. Somewhere in America,
someone's making that play. Somewhere in America.

542
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:37.480
Somewhere in America, there's an ni
LB side executive. Right, coach,

543
00:35:37.559 --> 00:35:45.639
be well man, man take care. So he's right, but he's

544
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:50.679
right. Don't go play, relax, don't get better because if you get

545
00:35:50.800 --> 00:35:53.159
better, if you get better,
somebody's gonna steals. Like having a girlfriend.

546
00:35:53.400 --> 00:35:55.800
Don't you have a cute girlfriend.
No, we're not gonna gonna stay

547
00:35:55.800 --> 00:35:59.920
in tonight. We're gonna stay in
today. We're not going outside. We're

548
00:35:59.920 --> 00:36:04.800
not put outside this house. That's
a tough goal. That's a tough call.

549
00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:06.599
Right, let's take our break.
We're to come back. Wrap it

550
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00:40:15.440 --> 00:40:20.320
I know that a few days afore
I call in and voice it in

610
00:40:20.440 --> 00:40:24.480
my opinion about Arizona going into the
Big twelve. So I want to talk

611
00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:29.920
more in depth with you too.
So I want so, I want to

612
00:40:30.400 --> 00:40:36.000
ask you this question, and I
want you to ask me, um,

613
00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:39.400
why didn't Why do you want Arizona
to go into the Big twelve? So

614
00:40:39.519 --> 00:40:45.000
let me ask you this question.
So stay, stay, So what is

615
00:40:45.039 --> 00:40:53.559
the benefit for Arizona to stay in
the Big statement past and in football and

616
00:40:54.039 --> 00:41:00.880
in basketball, you stay in the
Pack twelve. Yeah, well I don't.

617
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:04.880
I don't see it. I think
it's well, it's gonna probably be

618
00:41:04.960 --> 00:41:10.880
a better, better um football situation
for Arizona in the Pac twelve. Jay's

619
00:41:10.920 --> 00:41:14.360
just back into the room. He
go ahead and ask that question again,

620
00:41:14.400 --> 00:41:16.400
because that's Jay's he wants them to
stay in the Pack twelve. But your

621
00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:22.480
answer, your question will be answered
by Jay because I don't believe it.

622
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:25.400
Okay, go ahead, Okay,
Hey Jay, um So, so a

623
00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:30.719
lot of questions to ask for you, and you asking you can ask me

624
00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:36.440
why do you meet? Why did
you Why do you want Arizon to going

625
00:41:36.519 --> 00:41:40.960
to the baseball So here's my question
ask for you, buddy, So why

626
00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:46.519
do you want Arizon to stay in
the Pact fall or both in football and

627
00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:52.159
men's basketball? Um? I just
I just feel like the Pac twelve,

628
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:55.440
King is It's it's still a good
conference. I like, I like the

629
00:41:55.480 --> 00:42:00.679
teams that that you know are in
the league. I'm I'm disappointing you CLNUC

630
00:42:00.800 --> 00:42:04.679
has gone, but I'd rather I'd
rather have a schedule of you know Oregon,

631
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:08.519
Washington, Uh, you know Stanford
Cal Then you know Texas Tech and

632
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:15.039
Iowa State and Baylor in Oklahoma State. I just like, I like those

633
00:42:15.119 --> 00:42:17.000
programs better. I like competing against
those teams better, and I like the

634
00:42:17.280 --> 00:42:21.920
the you know, the I'm I'm
I'm a fan that travels to games,

635
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:24.199
and I like, I would rather
go to those places than to go to

636
00:42:24.400 --> 00:42:28.719
the places that are in the Big
Twelve. That's the main reason. From

637
00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:30.400
a basketball standpoint, I think,
you know, it would be great fairs

638
00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:32.800
on the basketball to be in the
Big twelve because you got you know,

639
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:37.679
so many great great schools and and
there. You know, the basketball programs

640
00:42:37.719 --> 00:42:42.880
in the Pac twelve aren't that great. But overall, I'd just rather stay

641
00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:45.800
in the Pac twelve because that's you
know, I just like, I like

642
00:42:46.199 --> 00:42:50.039
playing in the West. I like
the teams that we play against in the

643
00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:53.119
West. I don't want to split
up from asu UM. And you know,

644
00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:55.599
I think I think if you go
get San Diego State, and I

645
00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:59.320
don't know if SMU is the right
answer, but you know, certainly San

646
00:42:59.360 --> 00:43:01.880
Diego State would make would also make
it fun because like I said, I'm

647
00:43:01.920 --> 00:43:07.360
a fan that travels some so I'd
rather play those teams. And then finally,

648
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:13.159
purely selfish reason, you stay in
the Pac twelve, you have a

649
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:16.480
much better chance in football of getting
into the playoffs than if you go to

650
00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:22.199
the Big twelve. I just think
you do. Yeah, yeah, not

651
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:27.679
not even mentioned that. I kind
of I kind of agree with you more.

652
00:43:27.920 --> 00:43:34.000
But it's in regards to my point
of view. Um, I care

653
00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:38.880
for I care about Arizona overall of
both in men and fastball, and definitely

654
00:43:39.039 --> 00:43:45.760
in football. And I think that
the Big twelve is if the Big ten

655
00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:52.159
SEC and the Big trave all only
going to be in the state conferences and

656
00:43:52.320 --> 00:43:57.519
the pastel the zones, then I'd
rather be in the Big twelve because I

657
00:43:57.679 --> 00:44:02.400
want Arizon to survive. I don't
want Arizona to be like Residel States where

658
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:08.079
they were they in the math,
the trash mouth of West and plus I

659
00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:14.199
rather, I rather and in the
Big swel. They already have their TV

660
00:44:14.440 --> 00:44:22.000
deal and they I think, do
they give thirty eight million or around around

661
00:44:22.159 --> 00:44:27.119
that much? And if they give
thirty eight thirty million, then death money

662
00:44:28.280 --> 00:44:32.159
one of the football team and for
the men's basketball team. But and also,

663
00:44:32.880 --> 00:44:37.519
like I said, like I talked
to you guys a few days ago

664
00:44:37.599 --> 00:44:43.960
about Arizona spleeting with if you I
kind of see that, Um, like

665
00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:52.039
seventy twenty seventy is Arizona going and
going to the Big swelve and and a

666
00:44:52.280 --> 00:45:00.199
sus they eat in the back ass
and then the twenty twenty is Arizona in

667
00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:05.920
the Pac twel So I don't know, let's just see more happen exactly.

668
00:45:06.679 --> 00:45:10.719
Yeah, hey, don't let jayway
though, stand firm, baby, stand

669
00:45:10.840 --> 00:45:14.159
firm, because I agree with you
too. I like the Big twelve,

670
00:45:14.880 --> 00:45:17.800
but I like Jay's thought process on
that too. I've never said that life

671
00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:22.000
just it's just what I've grown up
with, and I just wanted It's been

672
00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:30.280
fun and I wanted definitely, very
definitely. I don't kick, I know,

673
00:45:30.440 --> 00:45:32.559
I know, just don't cuss.
But thank you, all right,

674
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:38.320
thank you, thank you guys.
Make two both good points. I don't

675
00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:43.599
really care what happens, um your
your your explanation was fine because if you

676
00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:45.519
stay in the West, we stay
in the West. It'll be a great

677
00:45:45.599 --> 00:45:50.159
basketball league. And that's all I
care about. So you know what the

678
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:54.599
heck you know again, And the
point that that that that Rick made yesterday,

679
00:45:54.760 --> 00:45:59.239
it was that you know, if
Arizona's playing football in the Big twelve,

680
00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:02.880
then he said it maybe it's maybe
it's more exciting because fans got up

681
00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:07.519
their game, because otherwise they're gonna
get left behind by the by the fans

682
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:09.679
of the Big twelve teams. We'll
be careful what you wish. It's gonna

683
00:46:09.719 --> 00:46:14.119
take a while to up the game, right with physicalness, just physicalness?

684
00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:20.840
Yeah, so, I you know, I mean if your Arizona either solution

685
00:46:21.000 --> 00:46:23.159
is okay, I prefer staying in
the past. And the only the only

686
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:27.440
good thing is there'd be more money
in the Big twelve. But see,

687
00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:30.039
the thing, one of the things
that has to be has to happen tho

688
00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:35.320
they can't. They can't go to
the Big twelve for basically the same money

689
00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:37.760
that they might have gotten in the
pack. Why would you Why would you

690
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:38.760
do that? I mean, if
they if they come back and say,

691
00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:43.760
well, okay, here's twenty five
million dollars that you know, that's not

692
00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:45.119
going to be good enough to keep
the league together. It's got to be

693
00:46:45.199 --> 00:46:49.039
in the thirty yeah, right,
And if they get into the thirties,

694
00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:53.760
basically, as as the Washington State
president alluded, if it's flat, if

695
00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:58.280
it's basically the same as they've been
getting, then what's wrong with that?

696
00:46:58.800 --> 00:47:01.599
Because it's gonna be about where you
know, um, the big twelve is

697
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:07.280
so you know, as they say, don't make a lateral move, don't

698
00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:09.480
don't throw everything up in the air
to make a lateral move. Financially,

699
00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:14.599
I agree, I agree. And
all the talking about the travel and all

700
00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:17.320
that, the misfortune and misfortune,
but difficulty for the other teams, yeah,

701
00:47:17.480 --> 00:47:22.159
other schools, you know, these
Olympic sports, uh is the issue?

702
00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:23.440
Yeah? Yeah, no, And
and that's the thing, you know,

703
00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:28.400
I mean again, you know what, look at Arizona. As much

704
00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:30.320
as okay people say, well who
watches those? Well I know, but

705
00:47:30.440 --> 00:47:35.760
maybe those those kids compete as hard
as everybody else. And so why why

706
00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:38.480
are you gonna want to put your
your your your swimmers, and your tennis

707
00:47:38.559 --> 00:47:43.159
players and your golfers and and all
those in a position where they've got to

708
00:47:43.199 --> 00:47:46.159
go to West Virginia and they got
to go to Ames, Iowa, and

709
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:51.719
they got to go to you know, uh, Baylor and Baylor wherever.

710
00:47:52.039 --> 00:47:58.440
Right when they've been going to LA
in San Francisco and Seattle, you know,

711
00:47:58.639 --> 00:48:00.800
in Eugene, Oregon, you know, Salt Lake City. The next

712
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:05.239
time we have one of those the
minor sports Olympic sports people, We'll ask

713
00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:08.400
him, are you would you be
would you mind doing this going to the

714
00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:13.320
places that you just said or put
yourself in the shoes of a UCLA or

715
00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:17.480
u USC swimmer, right boy?
And maybe maybe swimming. The swimming is

716
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:22.119
different because because swimming as is a
team swarm where you go to meets where

717
00:48:22.199 --> 00:48:27.199
there's you know, you mean the
same as track. But let's say softball,

718
00:48:27.280 --> 00:48:30.719
tennis, tennis, where you're playing
a schedule against teams that you've got

719
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:34.639
to go visit and then they come
to your place, you know, where

720
00:48:34.639 --> 00:48:37.920
it's not you know, because like
you know, you're like Arizona already goes

721
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:42.159
like for indoor track, they go
Lubbock already because Texas Tech as one as

722
00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:45.119
one of the top indoor facilities in
the country, and they hold a bunch

723
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:49.800
of the bunch of just meet I
think all you here it's two old dudes

724
00:48:49.840 --> 00:48:52.920
and the every other radio show you
know, like the kid here listens to.

725
00:48:52.800 --> 00:48:55.400
We spend other people's money, right, we kind of because because we're

726
00:48:55.440 --> 00:48:59.719
not spending our own money and we
have solved other people's problems. But we

727
00:48:59.840 --> 00:49:02.159
never I guess we do. We
ask people, what do you think the

728
00:49:02.199 --> 00:49:06.239
people who actually going through the problems. We don't do the kids care,

729
00:49:06.440 --> 00:49:08.639
I don't. The kids probably don't
give a crap. They might s well,

730
00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:10.639
that's ah, that's why we need
to ask, you know, did

731
00:49:10.679 --> 00:49:13.960
you want to go to Rutger short
or do you want to go to Aimes

732
00:49:14.000 --> 00:49:15.480
Eye? Does it do you matter? Does it mind? You know?

733
00:49:15.679 --> 00:49:20.280
What is it? And what does
the freshman think? Versus what does the

734
00:49:20.400 --> 00:49:23.800
senior Thinkright right, a freshman who
hasn't done any of the travel, Oh,

735
00:49:23.840 --> 00:49:25.599
I'm all right with it, you
know, because they don't know,

736
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:29.920
versus a senior who says, you
know what, I've had to come home

737
00:49:30.000 --> 00:49:34.400
from Seattle at six o'clock in the
morning and and then, you know,

738
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:38.559
gather myself and go to school on
Monday. You know, when you've experienced

739
00:49:38.639 --> 00:49:43.800
it and you know what it feels
like, you may not want it until

740
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:46.079
you ask champe over as until you
asked. We can kind of speculate.

741
00:49:46.199 --> 00:49:50.239
Now, it's tough, it's going
to be, but you know, if

742
00:49:50.280 --> 00:49:52.400
you're going through it, that's one
thing. Talking about it as another.

743
00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:54.039
I you know, I yeah,
I mean, it's it's it's, it's

744
00:49:54.119 --> 00:49:58.559
it's. It all remains to be
see. It's because it's also new.

745
00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:02.440
All this stuff that Oklahoma, Texas, UCLA, USC have all done.

746
00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:06.039
He changed, you know, like
Richard called and said, I don't want

747
00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:08.440
to go to play those teams in
the South. I like playing the teams

748
00:50:08.480 --> 00:50:13.360
that we were playing around Oklahoma.
Right, we got about two forty five,

749
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:15.119
so I'm not sure we can get
a call or not. But we

750
00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:17.039
let's go back to talk to about
Lopez. Love talking to him. His

751
00:50:17.079 --> 00:50:22.440
stories are fantastic because he talks about
the real world, real world, and

752
00:50:22.559 --> 00:50:24.679
I knew that he would not He's
eight years now that he's been done,

753
00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:30.400
and uh no, I said,
a landscape is landscape is crazy crazy?

754
00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:34.239
Yeah, yeah, I thought it
was a little older, actually, did

755
00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:37.840
you. Yeah, because he's you're
five years older than you. He'll be

756
00:50:37.960 --> 00:50:39.920
five yeah, five years yeah.
Yeah, he's stilled, relatively young man,

757
00:50:40.000 --> 00:50:43.920
good at what he does. Obviously
he loved his job. But we

758
00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:46.079
didn't ask him. Is he still
doing some TV comment? Yeah? I

759
00:50:46.239 --> 00:50:50.079
don't think. I don't know he
would be. He'd be saying I would

760
00:50:50.119 --> 00:50:52.960
think he'd be, you know,
doing some regional stuff, but he didn't

761
00:50:52.960 --> 00:50:55.000
mention it. I guess if you
had mentioned he would have know, one

762
00:50:55.000 --> 00:51:00.280
of the great storytellers with a lot
of his ex guys still coaching right in

763
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:04.079
the playoffs, right, and you
know when you know, I still think

764
00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:07.440
of that twenty twelve national championship and
how out of nowhere that came. We've

765
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:10.320
talked to him about that, but
to me, that still came so out

766
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:14.840
of nowhere, which made it so
much fun. Well to your point two,

767
00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:16.440
asked him about getting in and get
it out the year later, d

768
00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:19.760
We're not. They didn't get him, remember, I remember that. I

769
00:51:19.800 --> 00:51:23.800
remember a crappy Florida team got in
and flamed out like Arizona did this year,

770
00:51:24.039 --> 00:51:28.880
when a crappy Florida team got in
and the defending you know, the

771
00:51:28.960 --> 00:51:32.360
defending champion did not. And I
remember being really pissed off about that and

772
00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:36.639
probably went off on social media a
little bit on that one, because I

773
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:39.639
do that sometimes. I do that
once in a while. But no,

774
00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:44.639
hey, look, you know the
did you real quick? There was did

775
00:51:44.679 --> 00:51:50.800
she the plane? The Duke Virginia
Superregional game at Virginia. Guy's batting Duke's

776
00:51:50.880 --> 00:51:52.800
up five, four two outs,
two runners on bottom of the ninth.

777
00:51:53.119 --> 00:51:58.360
I hit the ball that the announcers
like that's out and the Duke I robs

778
00:51:58.440 --> 00:52:02.559
him of the home run, and
the game Duke wins against Virginia at Virginia,

779
00:52:02.840 --> 00:52:07.840
So you can that's that got posted
on about eighty thousand Twitter feeds.

780
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:12.280
But it's it's when you think about
the magnitude of a play like that to

781
00:52:12.440 --> 00:52:15.119
win the game. Rob a guy
have a home run to win the game

782
00:52:15.639 --> 00:52:17.519
on the road in a superregional.
That was pretty cool. Yeah, nice,

783
00:52:19.239 --> 00:52:21.599
one of those things. Just a
fun time. You're okay, great,

784
00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:23.760
we got about thirty seconds. A
good week, come on the comeback

785
00:52:23.960 --> 00:52:27.519
right. Working on some stuff for
next week, so we hope you get

786
00:52:27.559 --> 00:52:30.760
some good some more good guests.
But sugar Skulls. Tomorrow night, I'll

787
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:34.400
be on the on the call with
the Pat Paris on on YouTube television,

788
00:52:34.480 --> 00:52:37.400
but it's also on Fox Sports fourteen
fifty. If you, if you're in

789
00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:38.639
your car, want to hear the
game that's six o'clock. I want to

790
00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:42.480
ask you about that because I just
kind of realized YouTube. Tell you we'll

791
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:44.760
talk about it next week. Because
if that's the way the world's going,

792
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:47.599
how's that going? That's I don't
know, that's the question. We'll have

793
00:52:47.719 --> 00:52:51.079
that conversation. Okay, all right, we're right here. Have a great weekend.