Hello everybody. Dando here for the latest episode of four Fingered discat Exstra.
Thank you so much for joining me here this week. Today. I am
very excited because I've got a very out of left field guest. But he's
a man who I've been wanting to talk to you for quite some time now.
He is mister Jack Nischler, and he may have sent his name on
our page because we are constantly crediting him because he's putting out some of the
best Simpsons memes going around at the moment. He's just an absolute juggnau in
the Simpsons ship posting world. He has his group through House Simpsons Memes Supergroup.
Make sure you check out that group and join it. You can find
a link for that in the description of this pod. But basically, I
just wanted to talk about, you know, just his thoughts on the Simpsons
ship posting community in general. We cover his creative process for creating his Simpsons
memes. We also does bando a bet our love of the show, and
we talk about his earliest memories of watching the Simpsons, you know, and
he actually talks about a particul a memory that I couldn't get the smile off
my face because it's everything we did, you know, growing up in Australia.
It's a memory that I know every Australian listener is just going to absolutely
relate to and adore. So like I said, it's an absolute champion Jack.
Check out his group Thrillouse Simpsons Meme Supergroup and make sure you support him.
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I think it's time we sit back and enjoy my conversation with the One
the Only Mister Jack Knishler. It feels like, you know, Simpsons ship
posting has been going for years now, right, but you're just like this
name just taking the world by storm and the shit posting world. Like,
how made this happen? Man? I actually don't know, Like when I
first started as well, there's no way that I would have envisioned that I've
without sounding like kind of arrogant, like developed a somewhat reputation in that kind
of community. Yeah, because really it was just a hobby to start with,
and then it kind of morphed into its own thing. Did you so
you were making memes in Simpsons shit posting the main group and then you thought,
fuck, wait a minute, I'm actually getting a lot of traction.
I should make my own group. Or because did you start the thrill House
one yourself? Yeah, so myself, Corona Martin and Ruby's and Eddie formulated
thrill House. But honestly, when I first started it kind of it started
from the covid era has something to do while lockdown was going on. We
all had to find something to do, didn't we. Oh? Man,
it was crazy and like, honestly, when I look back, I'm like
I was posting the most generic shit, Like it would just be I'd share
an image of something that I saw and I'd posted in like obscure Simpson's characters
or maybe Rancher Overlaxo. And it wasn't really a meme. It was just
like, you know, someone dressed up as a Simpsons character and I'd share
that Simpsons related content. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And then it just
morphed into its own little thing, and I started developing kind of like I
guess a nick a niche of where I'd have like this black label text and
I would essentially just insert myself as a character. And then before I knew
it, man, I just took off. And then I started posting in
Compu Global. Yep, that was my main one. And then I developed
a friendship with Karna and we got to talking and eventually formed Thrillhouse a few
years later. But really from something that started, there's just something to quell
the bottom of lockdown. It's kind of crazy what it turned into. It.
Are you guys sort of like competition now for Comfort Global or not?
Because you're both AUSSI based, do you see this competition? I was sort
of like, you know, supposed to have each other out honestly, man,
Like, it's kind of weird the politics that happened with like between the
Simpsons group. This kind of crazy. This is the thing, right,
I get so many I get so much shit, and I'm just I've just
just accept it, right because you know, we'd take memes. I always
try to give credit where I give where I can. But sometimes people a
lot of the time, people to send us memes and I'm like, who
made this? Like I don't know, and I'm like, fuck now,
I'm going to go check the groups and try and find who made this,
and sometimes I just can't find it. So I'll post up the meme and
I'm like, if you know who made this, let me know. And
man, people get angry when you don't give credit for a meme. Yeah,
yeah, do you know what? They get angry? Ever, as
well, if you've reposted a meme like Bill say this competition, you know,
like the Harrison comment, Oh yeah, or repost, I'm like,
look, everything's been done at this point. Okay, you're reposting an old
Simpsons clip. You realize this, right, Like, it's already a repost.
If you repost a meme like say you post a meme to one group,
there's a whole audience in another group might not have seen it. So
if you post it to another group and you know, there's a couple of
people that have already been members of the other group and they see it and
then they're like repost, I'm like, okay, it's a whole your audience,
though, Yeah, what's kind of like, you know, I've talked
to people who work on The Simpsons now and I'm in season thirty five,
and they'll do a story and someone's like, you already did this in season
seven. It's like it's fucking twenty years ago. No one remembers that anymore.
We've done everything. Okay, it's all been done. It's like the
Obscool Simpsons Characters page. I think it originally started to post obscure characters and
it's been active for like three years or more maybe. So if someone posts
something and it doesn't have an obscure character, someone's like, you know,
in a smartest like, oh, nice obscure character. I'm like, look,
after two weeks, they're done. Yeah, Like, we don't,
there's no more to post. Did you make that obscure Simpsons? Oh?
No? Actually, one of the other ad means of thrill house sheey I
think is one of the original ones ruby Yeah, okay, cool, Yeah,
I forget it on at some point as well. What's like, what's
your process for making the meme? Like, now you're going to make sure
you get the black the black square or the black red ting with defined well
you always put certain things into your pictures to date. Yeah, yeah,
that's the thing is like it's so such a basic format of how I make
the meme. But with like the black label text, just on aesthetic alone,
you can kind of tell that it's mine. That's and you sort of
claim that, now, haven't you. Yeah, I'm not even like I'm
claiming it. It's just like people know it if you see it, tell
it's one of my memes. Sure, sure, but yeah, I mean
there's really no process involved in it. Like they're pretty low effort. There's
not a whole lot involved. And because you know, you've got the two
crowds that enjoy kind of like your standard Simpson's mash up where it's two scenes
blended together, and it's that kind of style of the meme, like hiw
he edited one, whereas mine are just like a poor Man's meme where I
just insert some kind of generic reference over a Simpson screenshot. It's almost like
as a stand up routine, like you know when this happens in real life.
That's what it is. Man Like I at the end of the day,
the way that I post memes, it's about the human that I enjoy
it. And I like that of self referential, not taking yourself too seriously,
just taking a piece really And yeah, a lot of it's just relatable
content, like you know, some like just like a workplace scenario or something
that happened to work, and then you insert out into a meme and people
can relate to that. And I find that that generates its own audience of
like the relatability of some of the content, and some people enjoy it and
some people don't. But that's like, I'm a human is subjective, right,
So I appreciate the ones where it's like, you know, when I
was a kid, so you always bust out the space Jam blanket and the
Batman. I think the Batman Forever poster is it, Yeah, which is
weird because I don't even really like that movie or much. I mean Nostage
books. I was a kid, well, hell do you I'm thirty five?
How do you? I'm so, I'm thirty three. We're about the
same age. So, like I was a kid and that Batman movie came
out, so like I was writing the target demo for that movie, so
I have like a nostalgia for it. But everyone's like, you realize that
movie shit out. I'm like, I know it's shit, but you know,
I still liked it because I was a kid. It's my ship.
Let me enjoy my shit. That's kind of like, you know when you
talk to kids that watch the new Simpsons, and you know, people from
like our age, like, oh, it's not as good as back in
the day, Like, just let us enjoy the new episodes, please,
because these are our episodes. It's the thing as well. I was only
talking about the new Simpsons episodes the other day, and like it's not intended
for us as the people that grew up with it. It's it's brought for
a new audience. Well, I can't expect. It's kind of like a
selfish mentality to have the idea that the Simpsons as they started should be catering
to that original audience. So when they're inserting popcorn for if I'm like watching
it now some of the pop culture references, I don't know what's going on,
but it's the same thing as if a new audience was watching some of
the throwback episodes that we grew up on. They're like, who the fuck's
Bill Clinton? Exactly? But this is the thing. I was so ad
the lit I don't know what who Lizzo is. I'm like, who right,
I'm totally ad the loot now, but she was like on The Simpsons,
I reckon about a month ago, what's your kind of like peak error
for for me because I wasn't allowed to watch it till I was six,
because I got banned from watching because I copied Maggie from treous I want and
goup the knife out of the kitchen draw and my mum was like, that's
it for the Simpsons. So for me, I have a nostalgia for like
season five through maybe ten. I reckon maybe five and five through seven are
like my favorite seasons. I think what about you? One for me is
borderline unwatchable just because it's really fine its voice and the animation. Like I'm
such a I need to dig the aesthetic, so like the animation style for
me that I really love is kind of like three through to ten, where
it's slightly imperfect, but it's not as refined as like the high definition that
we have now. There's that one season where they've got the really big pupils.
I think it's like season four. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of
it's bizarre. Yeah yeah, But for me, I think, like aesthetically,
my favorite season, I reckon it's probably like season like King Sid's Home
at ear like season seven is. I think that's when they look at the
season seven. Yeah. Yeah, I like season seven and season eight.
I really like like the aesthetic of that animation. Yeah, and also like
in terms of consistently good episodes, like that was a hell of a run
that went through right, Like you can pretty much put on any episode and
a Tobanger. Yeah. Bill Oakley and Josh Weinstein were the showrunners at that
point, and you know, Bill Oakley obviously did steam Hams and yeah,
yeah, I feel like those two guys like they made the best episodes.
They really like. That was Simpsons fans who somehow made their way into the
Simpsons writing room and gave us the best episodes. Mm hmm. Yeah with
you, so with your with your memes. So I'm just assuming you've got
like a notepad of ideas and just when you find time you make the memes.
Or is it just the case of you're doing your work and you're like,
fuck, that's a good idea. You drop everything and you make the
memes. Like how do you make the memes? You do it on a
computer on your phone? What do you do? Man, I've got like
notes in my phone. I can imagine there's just five hundred meme ideas that
I put in there, and then I just categorized them into a priority of
oh, this is probably a good one, so it's like top memes,
and then I'll be like, man, there's times when I'm laying in bed
trying to go to sleep and I've just got like ideas churning, and then
I have to reach over to my phone and be, oh, I put
that in and then I'll think about that the next day and then build on
that. Yeah, And don't you love it when you pull your phone out?
We can't do that as well with certain things. I feel like you're
most creative when you're about to go to sleep, and I love it when
you wake up next day and you're like, oh, man, I totally
wuld have forgotten about that idea, but think I put it in my phone
for sure, because I definitely haven't done it before. I've forgotten to put
it in and it's just gone into the EGI yeah, and you know there's
something then and you're like, what was it? Oh, it's weird,
man, because with the memes as well, like sometimes I'll be like,
this is going to be a banger and it's like, you know, moderate
likes at best, and then there's like a throwaway one that I spent thirty
seconds on and it's a thousand likes. So it's like there's really no gauge
on what's going to go well or what gets picked up in the algorithm.
Either that's the thing, it's the algorithm who they push it to. It's
so fucking weird. Now the algorithm you've got to really you can't work it
out anymore. And anything, I think it's just a lucky dip these days.
Well, I used to feel like it was like time of day dependent
as well, Like I would post it would be like because I used to
have a thing because I've got a lot of OCD qualities, so there was
a point where I was religious, Yeah, for sure, religiously posting once
in the morning and once in the evening, so I do two a day,
and I felt like that turned ten thirty time frame and then like you
know, a four thirty five o'clock timeframe seemed to generate the most activity on
the post. Whereas I have no idea if that's legit, It just it
was what it was. I used to sort of have the mentality of when
I was posting things up are most of our followers and at the time it
was Australian. Now that sort of all around the world. It doesn't really
make a difference. But I'm like, when are Australians knocking off work when
they're going to be most likely to be on their phones. That's when I's
sort of pick in my mind. So it was usually like seven thirty people
just finished in and they've got their phones out fucking around watching TV or whatever,
and I feel like seven thirtysu to be a good time for posting meanings.
But now you just can't pick. It's just whatever. Yeah, especially
like with the Australian group that I was posting in for a long time,
that's easier to predict because it's primarily an Australian audience see yeah, yeah,
whereas now with like Thriller House and even Bought Posting, it's worldwide. Like
Bought Posting's got I think they just broke over three hundred thousand followers or so
they're from just everywhere. Man. Yeah, so yeah, there's really no
gauge on target audience. You just post when you post and see if it
takes off. I find memes now that get the most reach organically, very
very very rarely boost the post. Might be a link for one of our
podcasts, that's the any thing. I'll never boost a meme. But I
feel like the ones where you've got to click into it to see the full
picture seem to get more organic reach because it thinks that people are engaging because
they're clicking into the photo to see the full thing. It's like a three
panel meme. They generally do better than one you can see the whole image
without having to click into it to see the bottom, like the screenshot.
That's interesting because I used to feel kind of converse to that, where if
it was like a multipanel meme, because I've done I remember only a couple
of times because they actually take a fair bit of effort. But I've done
like super meta memes where it's like fifty plus panels and it's pretty much about
the group itself and group members within that group, like personalities at like regular
posters, and they take a shitler effort and they get a bit of traction.
And then if it's like a four panel meme, I feel like people
are less inclined to click on that as opposed to a single one or a
double one where it requires no clicks, which is like it kind of highlights
the laziness of just the average person. It's like, can't be fuck clicking
on a panel to see how many are there. The best thing is,
I think, is when you can see there's a third panel, Like people
post memes, but like you have to actually say there's three panels, because
they've made the positioned to see if you can see like the top bit of
the third panel makes people go, well, what is that? What is
that? And then they'll the curiosity gets the best of them. They're like,
Okay, let's see the punchline. Yeah, but what was your first
ship post? Can you remember? Oh man, probably something super whack in
hindsight, like something real shitty. I actually don't remember what it was.
It was nervous posting it, were you sort of like, oh, man,
what if no one likes it? Nah? Not because I didn't even
have an idea of how it worked. It was just like I didn't give
a shit about how many likes it was going to generate. You just posted
out of boredom. And then I know, for me personally, it became
like you're chasing that dopamine of like the validation of people liking the post,
especially the more popular they get, and if you're consistently getting a lot of
likes on a post, it becomes addictive, man, it really does.
You end up chasing that kind of fucking dopamine here, like, oh,
let me get that high of people like my shit, people enjoying my content.
But then at the same time, there's a fair bit of anxiety involved
with it, which sounds ridiculous because they're just means yeah, but like some
of them can be quite I guess contentious, and you get people just really
get in in their feelings and letting you know exactly what they think about something,
And I kind of feel like that's something to do with the anonymous nature
of the Internet, where it allows people to speak in a way that they
wouldn't speak if it was your and iron person. You kind of like that
road rage mentality where if someone cuts them off in traffic, they're freaking the
fuck out and they're this out and the third. But if someone stepped in
front of them in line of the supermarket, they're not going to say shit.
It's going to wish that they could have said something and then be like,
dang, I should have said that. If someone steps out of the
car, then they quickly turned the car around and drop the other direction.
Yeah, exactly exactly. So it's it's it's very Yeah, it's weird.
The audience you can get on certain means it's good. I'm gonna be very
careful with the ones that I post because we try to keep it like we
try to be like the You've got rock Bottom in all those other pages and
they dropped the sea bomber light and we're I just like we try to be
like the family friendly ish version of like as Simpson Ship posting, because it's
essentially it's the podcast page, but we're posting memes. You try to keep
it family friendly because we have a lot of sort of like connections with the
actual show, and I'm like, they're not going to want to be associating
with me if I'm putting memes up with the sea bomb or to bias memes
mostly dropped the Sea Bomb and stuff like that. And I know, not
that I'm against that kind of stuff, it's just we've got to keep our
image a little bit more squeaky clean than those of like rock Bottom of those
kind of things. Not on pals of all those guys that run those pages,
because they're way more popular than we are. But yeah, I just
I just found it very interesting that, you know, just how crazy ship
postings has got to this point where people, I don't know, it's almost
just become like a job for people. It's it's such a community now,
isn't it. Yeah, I mean, and depending on the group, it
can be such a fun vibe. It's like a virtual hanging. Because that's
how I feel we've been able to cultivate. The whole idea with Thrillhouse was
that we wanted to take essentially everything that we thought was wrong with other groups.
Because there's pros and cons to eage group. What are they wrongs,
do you think If you yes, I don't want to go for me like
if I'm taking my own biases out of it if I look at it.
Some groups get so political to where three out of four posts are politics based,
and that's where you're run into the most contention with comments. We avoid
politics like the plague mate, Oh you got it, man, because like
it's such a hot issue, especially now with what's going on in the world,
it's really really hard to like, at the end of the day for
me memes that are meant to essentially just be for me personally and escape from
all the extra bullshit, Like I just want to crack a smile and have
a laugh. I don't want to open up Facebook and see what's going on
with like Palastine and Iran plastered over a Simpsons thing where it's like, this
isn't to do with the Simpsons, Like, take your own shit and talk
about it somewhere else. So I wanted to take the things that, like
the negative components that I find with other groups, eliminate that, but also
buy a space where you can have you know, slightly spicier content, slightly
edgier jokes to where it's not completely you know, g rated content. It's
not just offensive for the second being offensive either exactly, because that's also like
cringy, like if someone's just we we get an occasion we're in the group
where someone's just thinks it's a spicy content, but it's not. You're just
inserting a shitty opinion under the guise of a Simpson's name, And so we
put the squash on that quickly. But we want to allow people freedom to
post what they like, obviously within reason, because some groups want to you
know, squeaky claim. Some groups go the other side where they get dark
and then the group gets completely sucked. And we just wanted the middle ground
where people are free to express opinion, have difference of opinions, but avoid
just the heavy politics that seem to burn down a lot of other groups.
Yeah, do you find you have the same regular posters in your group?
It's funny, man, because each post kind of ends up having like it's
it's I even know how you articulate it. You get like your top ten
kind of prevalent posters within that group, Like their are the sort of personalities
within the group, so you get your standout characters. Has anyone tried to
copy your your your gimmick of the your gimmick, but you know your style
of the black with the white font. Has anyone tried to copy that?
Or as everyone go, oh, that's Jack's, then we better not.
There's no one that I would ever, There's no one that I would point
out as being like, oh, they've intentionally started doing this. There's definitely
been a couple where you can tell, especially with the self referential nature,
because mind are very like the classic style of the meme that I'll post is
generally two panels and the first one will be me, etcetera, etcetera,
bottom panel me, etcetera, etcetera. Yeah, so when I see that,
it can be like an homage to maybe something that I did. But
at the end of the day, I don't stay claim to any mean like,
you can post whatever you want if you take inspiration from that, so
be it. Like I. Some people get really jealous or like very possessive
of the style of meme that they post, and then if they see someone
else try to mimic that, they're like, no, that's my ship.
What the fuck that means? Man, don't there's Simpsons at the end of
the day too. We don't own any of it. Yeah, so you're
free to post whatever you like. Well, so many people from like three
House were starting to like invade all my posts just running credit Jackniche and I
was like, oh h to the point where like I haven't posted one of
your means for like a week. As a result, I'm like, oh
man, I'm just like even when I wasn't posting your memes, I was
just posting credit. It's like twenty comments credit Jacknishline. I was like,
oh guys, leave me alone. I'm a nice guy. There's also like
a bit of tongue and cheek in like the four finger Dissed Town, you
know what I mean. It's like if you look at it at face go
too. It's like, yeah, we kind of yoink memes like credit where
it's due, but at the end of the day, it's not like we've
fucking stole the mona Lisa. It's a meme. Well, we always try
to give credit where we can. But man, so many people I've had
death threats. I remember one guy I generally said, if you you don't
give credit to my meme, I'm gonna come with you along and like you
just went to town. I was like, I just I wrote you looked
in the comments, I said, who made this? Now that I know
it's you, I'll put your credit in there and you back, Oh,
no worries, mate, Yeah thanks. So I sorry. I got a
bit over the top. But I just get real like defensive when people just
pinch my memes. I'm like, chill out, dude, do you get
what kind of the like inboxes do you get? Do you get some crazy
inboxes? We just get people. People send memes through and their ship house,
and they get really offended if I don't post them like I'll like sometimes
I'll just like react to it and with a laughing faces they have they say,
yep, I acknowledged that I've seen your meme. But I can't post
everything, right. I'm very very picky with what I post up. Right,
They've got to I'm gonna be able to. I know what my audience
likes, and some of the memes that come through and it's like this isn't
very good, but I still say, oh, yeah, great work,
blah blah blah, And like three days later I'll say, so you're gonna
post it, I'll go, oh, maybe we'll see how I've got a
little bit of a backlog. Well why are you posting it? I'm like,
oh god, block gone. I can't deal with this, you know
what I mean. But we get now because the page has sort of gone
a bit more popular lately, we're getting so many like hello admin, can
we post on your page? All these fucking fake accounts, which is hard
to sort of filter between the real accounts and the fake ones these days.
Yeah, that I was not surprising. We like, I never would have
envisioned the amount of widows that I've had in my my I don't want to
say weirdos, but you said no, like honestly, well without being like
an asshole about it. Like sometimes some people will post some really heinous content,
give them a warning, be like remove the post, that's fine,
and then you know they continue to do it, and you pretty much you
can tell when it's a troll account, it's a fake profile and they're posting
things with the anonymity of the Internet, and then you you remove that poster
from the group, and then you just met with the most hillacious dms from
these people just going in on you. Like some of the not even DM
sometimes like some of the comments that I get on some of my posts because
I reference my wife a lot in them. Yeah, obviously some of the
because of the self referential nature and how I insert myself in the means it
leads me open for probably a lot more criticism than like the Simpson style mash
up posts, because they can attack my personality because it's put on showing the
meme. Could you say it's me me? Yeah? Yeah. But also
it's satire, like when I'm talking about like nutting in six punts, it's
not necessarily you know, the actual truth of what's going on. It's satire.
But I'll have people be like, oh, I feel so for your
life. Like the other day someone commented They're like, I hope you get
cheated on, And I literally had to laugh out loud and show my life
because it was just so unnecessarily harsh. What's crazy is that people writing this
too are like serious, that's the scary thing. What's going on in your
life? This upset over a mean man? How many do you take down?
How often do you have to take one down posts? Yeah, in
like in the group when it's just like many man like at the moment with
what's going on. We've had to take down a few because they're quite politically
driven, and we didn't want to a group to kind of turn into whatevery
other group does. So we had to run one of those topics where you
just like it's best to leave it to other people. Not this for sure,
for sure, And it's such a contentious topic that, I mean,
no one's going to have the answer, like, no one's going to come
to a mutual understanding on what's going on. So and they just escalate so
quick and then before you know it, you're getting so many posts being reported,
and you know what you're seeing like in mean groups where a trend continues
for a while and it kind of just beats a dead horse. That's what
I was going to ask you about that later on. Yeah, about the
trends, Like do you sort of look at trends or do you sort of
just think because you your thing is just relating to something's happened in your real
life, sort of associated with your real life, So you don't really follow
like the trends of the memes, do you, Because you've got to like
Boat It's like yeah, because in the boat posting is like you know it
was the leaves. Recently everyone was doing leaves and I was like, yeah,
like that was like so popular for like four days. I reckon,
I don't even know how they start, Like where did Kevin James one come
from? So the Kevin James won started because it became its own thing outside
of ship posting. Then they sort of moved it into ship posting. But
yeah, I don't know how that exploded. It was just like that image
has been online for so long and people have just decided now it's kind of
steamed hams, like steam hams. When I was a kid, I didn't
even find it all that funny. And then when we got like you know,
when we got hold like twenty five thirty, it's like it just became
like the meme of all memes, and I'm like, how, I mean,
who just decided steamed hams was the meaning of all memes? Well,
the minute and there's a trend of the hidden panel oh yeah in the comment
one. I don't I don't find that style like personally, again, it's
subjective. I don't find that style that main funny, but it goes on
for so long, and then that's what we just try to avoid in the
group. Like, you know, it's fine if you get in on a
trend, but you don't want to be looking through a timeline and you've got
twenty of the exact same joke in a row. Yeah. I try to
avoid the trend ones and just try to look at ones that is not timeless,
but go that anyone can relate to this, Even if you're not a
Simpsons fan, you can probably relate to it. Yeah. Yeah, well
that's just I just don't get in on the trend one because generally, like
the trend style memes aren't in my wheelhouse of how I mean anyway, so
I wouldn't be able to do a relatively good justice to one. I'll leave
that for the other people who actually are good at that stuff. Do you
have a favorite of yours? A favorite meme? Yeah, that you've made?
You Do you have one that you didn't think was going to be that
poppy and you're like, shit, people really like this one. Yeah.
There's definitely been a couple of them, but none that I can really think
of. Is I remember the one that went really well when we put it
up. People loved it was the one where you're like sneaking out to get
drunk when you're fifteen and then Malloy twiggling his mustag. Yeah, yeah,
sneaking out to go back home. Now that was a pisser. Well,
it's also funny some of the ones that there was one that you guys shared
as well, where it was a lady talking about, you know, send
him home in it Ober fed him blah blah blah. Yeah, they got
a shitload of shares. That was one where that was a throwaway like that
took what a minute to put together and then that takes off. So just
like you really don't know what's going to hear and what's going to miss the
way I gauge now because my wife she was never a Simpsons fan growing up.
She's from the UK, like it was big in the UK, but
she just never really watched it. She was from the but they call the
country in the UK the equivalent of country in the UK. They didn't watch
much TV or anything. But what I do now is I'll show her and
mean before I post it, and if she reacts to it, I know,
well Simpsons fans are going to like this because I liked it, and
of a nonsense since fan likes it as well, there's probably gonna do really
well. So that's sort of how I gauge now what I think a post
is going to do well before I put it up, Like a meme is
show my wife and she finds it funny, then that's the thing. And
that's what I did with the sneaking out for a drink because like I think,
you know, everyone who's in their mid thirties now can totally relate to
that meme. Yeah, I feel like that's where a lot of my memes
are going towards as well, just like crossing that thirty threshold and then suddenly
it becomes a lot more like relatable content of things that you used to be
able to do maybe in your youth that slightly start to deteriorate as you age.
I mean, people love the memes where it's always like you know,
it's happened to you, and people always sort of those memes always do really
really well well. I just I'm a sucker fan of the nostalgia as well.
So any of what's my whole podcast network is MAT's all the stuff exactly
Like if anyone puts in some you know, when you see something, you're
like, man, I forgot all about that, and it like takes you
back to a time period. And that's what I enjoy about the memes,
Like, that's what I enjoy about seeing any kind of stagia references takes you
back to it such a comforting time in your life. That's why I think
that's why we just love the Simpsons so much. It's just like you know,
it was, It's just been there our entire lives. Like you're thirty
three, the Simpsons has always been around. You know, well what I'm
sure introduction to it? Do you remember, well, I know how I
said earlier, how I sort of apparently I saw the Simpsons Trioso one We're
making it to the Knife out of the Draw, the Bad dream House.
And I don't remember that at all. I was too young. I was
like two or three. Someone was like, you can't watch the Simpsons to
your six. But my earliest memories is going to like video easy and seeing
like remember those I've got them in here? The I go go one,
hey, one second, I'll show you might be able to remember these?
Yeah, do you remember these videotapes? Be able to run from the shop
for sure? Man? Yeah, the white cover Simpsons collection one so they
were like, yeah, first time I remember seeing the Simpsons, like they
look cool, and I were like renting one and I didn't realize i'd rented
one. And it's like it was a huge deal that I was allowed to
watch the Simpsons. But that's my earliest memory of the Simpsons as seeing the
videotapes at Video Easy. What about you? Oh man, I don't remember,
like I can't pinpoint a specific memory. It's just six PM, week
night, Channel ten mate. That was. That was the memory. I
know. We had like a bunch of vhs just recorded off the TV,
just episodes recorded off the TV. Are they're the best. I've still got
a couple of mine and it's like, you know, you got something still
got the ads in it and stuff. It's just so nostalgic. Just do
you know what I would give to have some of the throwback episodes just to
watch the ads alone, not even for the Simpsons episodes, but to watch
the ads. Yeah, oh man, I'd give anything for that, the
ads in between all the ads of the Simpsons though. Do you mean just
the ads in between? No, just the ads just like the generic throwback
like Australia ads. I do it all the time you go on YouTube,
you type like nineteen ninety five Australian commercials and it's just like you with it,
Like the commercials like pick apart, pick Apart, rehober that and things
like that. Man, do you remember how sick the yoga commercials were?
Holy shit? Man? Yeah, like just mini episodes they were. It
was like the big bang thing was just like clips and the machine all together.
It's an actual fucking movie. Like I'll get back to your barrying things
like that. Yeah, that was sick. Yeah, someone needs to make
a Yogo based Simpsons me. I think that's one. Think that's one of
your ideas need to work on. I could tap into that for sure.
Yeah, because those kind of things people just that you see it and you're
like, holy shit, that was my childhood. You know. Well.
The other thing about those tapes too, is I remember going to kmart.
Do you remember how they'd have kind of the theme tapes were too hot for
TV or I've got them all behind me here. Yeah yeah. Yeah.
So it was like four episodes per tape and they were like twenty five bucks
for a VHS that came out thirty dollars. Yeah, I've still got the
price tag on my on my VHS. We paid thirty bucks for four episodes,
mate. For That's the thing, though, man, is that no
wonder you remember this shit verbatim? Because four episodes for twenty five thirty dollars
you're watching the funk out of there, like you're spamming that. I said
to like people who didn't grow up in our ear. It's just like when
your mom bought you a fucking videotape. You had four tapes and that was
your summer, and you watch those same fucking movies over and over again.
Do you know what's so funny? Man? It's like the shot Like the
shows of my childhood were kind of of the Simpsons, Seinfeld, South Park,
Malcolm in the Middle, and Friends and people. Friends just kind of
treated like a punchline. Now it's kind of like the nickelback of TV shows
where it's like, oh, yeah, it's funnier than Friends, blah blah
blah. I was like that right until I started doing the podcast with my
wife and I was like, fuck, that's right. I used to really
liked this show. Why was I shitting on it? It's like I just
became a sheep? Ah, man, it's like, look, I don't
know how i'd go watching it as a first time viewer through the lens of
a thirty three year old, but nostalgia defeats everything, and I grew up
on it, Like Jennifer Anistill was like my first crash. I remember from
what she was like with Brad Pitt. Yeah, I remember like having a
dream that they adopted me. That's how much I just wanted to be involved.
And then I remember, like, I had this this notebook, and
I had a stick figure drawing of me and her holding hands and I cut
out of her head and I'm like, you know, it sounds romantic and
sweet, but if I saw that image now of like her cut out head,
I'm like, this is impossibly creepy to look at. Imagine if you
told her that story in person, she'd be backing through the hedges. Mate,
Yeah, with shit Homer disappearing. Yeah, there's no why, There's
no way I would do that. But see Friends for my wife is what
the Simpsons, I say, was for me. So like my wife,
she puts Friends on every day. She just watches it on loop from start
to finish and goes back to the start, right it's just it's her comfort
food, comfort to me. Right. I found since I started doing the
podcast, I don't watch The Simpsons anywhere as much as I used to.
Like the Simpsons just used to always be on in my house. When I
went to bed, I'd put the commentaries on the dvna's it was just always
Simpson, Simpsons, Simpsons found Sins. I did the podcast, it almost
feels like it's become work for me. But it's like I try to dissociate
from the show now because it's I see there's a bit of work, and
that's sad because I've got like a five year old and a two year old.
But what I've started doing now is I've started introducing them to the show,
to the point where they're now saying, can I watch the Simpsons.
I'm like, oh, the world's all good again, you know. Well,
that's almost like why like New Simpsons Cops all the ship it does.
But I was only talking to my wife yesterday about how I wanted to go
for as long as I'm alive, because I feel like the day that they
end, it will be such a bittersweet moment for me, just knowing that
it's still continuing is like special to me. I don't want it to ever
end. I don't care how much it diminishes in quality. I don't want
it to ever stop. I like knowing that it's there. Everyone's the same
way, everyone in our age is just like, even if you might not
watch the show as often as you did, just know it's kind of like
you know your grandma or yeah, yeah, and uncle that you don't see
it that often. You know it might only seem at Christmas time, but
just knowing that he's going to be there at Christmas time makes you happy,
sure, for sure. So yeah, I also hope they never go.
I do feel like eventually they might just transition to being maybe like a Disney
Plus exclusive show or something. I don't know. At this point, I
don't even know how it ended. It'll never be. It never be considered
a good ending, like you've never ended What's are though. It's such a
rare It's like you're chasing something that's so impossible to achieve when like you've been
on a series for as long as that. I don't know how he'd ever
come up with an ending that's going to satisfy and be unanimously praised. I
don't mind Al Jean's idea that he put out several years ago now where it
was like it'll end with them going to watch the school play at Christmas time.
So basically the show just becomes a yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I think that's probably the best way, right, because they're stuck in
a time of anyway. Yeah, and it's the other I like a little
bit off track, but you know how there's that real elitist view of season
two to nine. That's all I watch season two Golden era. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean if you're not watching season ten to
even twenty, you're missing out on so much good content. Like season ten
alone, for me is still peak Simpsons, but even twenty through to thirty,
they're still like even bad Simpsons is better than a lot of new content.
Yeah, that's the thing. Yeah, compared to some of the ship
that's out there. Yeah, it's still enjoyable. The only problem that I
like, the only thing that I slightly struggled with with new New Simpsons,
it's just some of the voices. Yeah, like March it's becoming man,
Julie Cavra, it's rough. Nicholas, my wife, she's like, when
did they replace Marge. I'm like, they haven't. Yeah, I don't
know. What is your wife? Is she a big Simpsons fan? Like,
how does she feel about being part of your memes? She, I
wouldn't say a big Simpsons fan. She definitely enjoys the Simpsons. She's a
dragon ball Z fan. Okay, to this day, I haven't seen on
an episode of dragon ball Z, so that's her thing. I'm kind of
similar. Even though I was the guy that helped launch the Cheese TV facebook
page, I used to love Cheese TV, so like i'd see it on,
but I just never got into dragon ball I collected the little discs that
used to get in the Smith chips, but I never actually watched the show.
Say with Pokemon, I never really got into like the whole anime thing.
But I was a cheese TV kid growing up, so like this is
about this is twenty sixteen. I had on on a podcast, Ryan,
because you would watch chea TV right back in the day. Sure, sure,
sure, yeah. I had Ryan on and I was like, uh,
what it sucks that you can't watch the old episodes and He's like,
oh, I own pretty much every episode on VHS, just a production tape
and I was like, excuse me, and he goes, yeah, yeah,
they just all my back shehd. I'm like, what do you mean.
He goes, yeah, I've got about five hundred tapes out there,
and I'm like, send them to me and let's monetize this. Birs.
We did that and then yeah, it was just like hearing that cheese TV
theme music. Like you said earlier, it just takes you back sometimes,
like you think of old TV shows, You're like, I love that show,
when really you love the theme music that's what you love. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, for sure. Man. There's like even now there's some
remember like funny Bones mm hmm, her friends shipped the Shore. That intro
slaps that ship. The short intro goes harder than it has any right to
know. I never write what about bad? I remember Babba the Elephant of
course. Yeah, that's like I put it on the other day and I
was like, oh my heart. Yeah, like some times I'll just go
down a rabbit hole just watching the intros to certain shows from my childhood,
and you just just smile the whole time, don't you. For sure,
Yeah it's the best, and that's what the Simpsons does. It just makes
you smile because it reminds you of being a kid, being like eight.
No, Thursday afternoon, six pm. Your parents are watching the news.
You're in the other room watching the Simpsons. Funnily enough, man, I
was saying about, like one of the shows in my childhood was south Park.
To this day, I have a memory of I had never wanted to
see something as much as I wanted to see the south Park movie. But
I was ten when it came out, ye, and it was in the
theaters the same time as Star Wars episode one, and so my dad and
my brother went and saw south Park and you did the swift Yeah, no,
no, I had to go see Star Wars. My loss is kind
of cool, like, you know, like Darth Maul's got his double savings
kind So I saw that a few times, but like it eventually turned into
wearing my dad down until we eventually broke and let me see the movie because
it was just every day, relentless. I need to see the south Park
movie movie. Legit, Man, just worring down. I just watched the
thing. I wasn't allowed to watch it. I wasn't en suposed watch South
Bike. I used to have to, like had a TV in my room,
so like nine to thirty Monday nights, I am I'm watching Channel seven,
SBS, SBS turned Man at a certain time of night too, like
you don't know what's going to come on? Erotic Tails, mate, Yeah,
Erotic Tails and Champagne Comedy. They were like the two things that I
remember well. Champagn Comedy on Channel thirty one that was like a local Victorian
station where it was just like up and coming comedians, which are always terrible,
but I remember like it was like we'd have Win Southern Cross, ABC
and SBS, and then it was like it was like the gab scene Gabble
Gabbo where it was like channel ten's coming, we have we have fuck olwen
Ober. So we would get like the idea of a fifth channel was crazy
when we need the channel? When did you get ten? I thought,
I just assumed we always had. It was no, no, no,
no no. I was like fourteen, and we had to go buy a
set top box to install into the TV so you could get the additional channel.
And then ten came on and that's when we really got the Simpsons because
I had a couple like my childhood best friend he had Oz star in his
room, which was like a game changer. So you stayed there on the
weekends and you'd have your Fox Simpsons marathons from like nine to midday, nine
to twelve. Super Simpsons weekends was like the highlight of my childhood. It
was altimate, man, just like we used to his laying bed. His
mum would bring us just an infinite loop of vegimiteites and we just spammed the
symptoms. It was the best. That's like the most ouzzy thing ever,
like vegemite toes and just spamming The Simpsons every weekend as a mess. So
yeah, I lived for that. So yeah it was great. Well,
man, I know it's been fun chatting to you. I know you've got
work to do, so better let you go. But before we go,
I've honest that the new thing I sent you the question? Right, did
you get the question about the marathon? So I'll ask the question like like
you didn't know, all right, So you don't know this question. So
it's nineteen ninety eight, you've been giving control of Channel ten. You've actually
got Channel ten now in Tasmania, and it's Friday night and you're going to
put together a five episodes Simpsons marathon. What are you putting on? I
had to actually my OCD brain struggled with this, so I'll preface it with
My favorite episode of all time is probably the Homer They Fall where he fights
Tradaic Tatum. Well you're a boxing coach now, right, So it was
like encompassed everything I liked about The Simpsons. It's season eight, my favorite
animation, the boxing content. Traderic Tatum is my Instagram handle. I have
kid presampable tatooed on me. Really, yeah, where is it? It's
on my calf, so it's a bit hard anyway. Yeah, okay,
yeah, but that's one of the best of all And finally a kid bo
Yeah exactly. Man and my wife had like this custom art made for me
where it's me ring side watching home and get destroyed next to Abe. And
so that's my favorite episode of all time. The why Can't We Be Friends?
It is one of my favorite Simpsons gags of all time. Oh yeah,
the walkout. Yeah, it's just unbelievable, so good. It's so
good. But I'd have to put cape fear because I feel like you got
to have like a side show Bob episode. That's the iconic one Home of
the Great and that kind of encompasses like it's got a musical compartment in it.
Yep. I think who shot mister Burns? Part one and two has
to be together. And I think, honestly, Man, that is such
a fantastic that could have been a movie. It felt like a movie.
Yeah, I'm too young to remember the mystery of like the Cliffhanger. I'm
too young. I lived at Man. One of my earliest, one of
my favorite memories is my sister and I sitting there with a notepad in my
because my parents were watching something and I remember like part two was coming up,
so we were going to find out who did it. And we spent
like all the time in between trying to work out who did it. We
had our little notepads. We spent over the summer or whatever it was winter
trying to work out who did it, and rem my parents' room because I
was watching something in the living room. I was sitting there was so excited.
I thought it was Smithers. I was. I was certain it was
Smithers, even though that was obviously never going to be Smithers. But I
remember sitting there and the genuine excitement and anticipation. It's hard to describe how
exciting it was. It was just like a major event of your childhood.
Did you have any idea that it would have been Maggie? No one had
any idea. No one did. Apparently they've said that there was like one
guy in like the forums, because the Simpsons showrunners and the writers used to
bruise all the forums online back when internet was in its early days, and
there was one guy who said, I reckon it was Maggie and they could
never find out who it was. And still to this day they've never found
out who it was. But only one person ever genuinely guessed Maggie and put
it in a public forum. No one else guessed it carec You remember the
there's a pretty famous imagery of the odds that's fake. I knew it was
going to be fake. Yeah, anything that cool is going to be fake.
I mean it's nice to imagine, though, isn't it. It's just
like, yeah, apparently that's all fake. Yeah, well shit, forget
that then. But that's that's what it felt like though, Like it was
so it was such a big event for kids that you would believe that that
was genuinely happening because the Simpsons were huge. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah. I think that's such a great Part one and part two. Springfield
Files is my favorite. And I'm not even the biggest X Files mark but
the crossover is so well done. It's in my top five of all time.
I'm a big sci fi fan. So okay, well man, you
know when Homer steps off the bus and a violin orchestra is playing, Yeah,
I was like the most terrified child. I was scared of everything,
and I remember that scared me. I was like, oh, it was
kind of creepy. Component in that episode is in the woods have creepy violin
that X Files music signifies be scared when you were a child. That's like
in terms of generating a feel, that's one of the best intro songs,
like the perfectly captured the vibe of the show. The X Files music is
so good. You know when you go like skip credits, you never skip
credits for the X Files team Nah nah for sure, or shipped the shore
or I was going to say you need a Threehouse of Horror one. I
was going to say probably three House Horror six. I really like the Groundscaper
Willie Freddy Krueger concept. That was the first new Simpsons I was ever allowed
to watch after the band ended, And I remember being so excited mentioned this
last week's show because we did like the most gruesome deathcoltry House of Horror.
But I remember sitting there. I remember like Homer three D right and now
advertising a channel of ten, like The Simpsons will be in three D this
week. So here's like fucking seven year old me sitting there with my red
and blue glasses on before the show starts, thinking it was going to be
in three D. But that's not what they meant. But you know,
like in the nineties, three D meant red and blue glasses. Yeah,
yeah, for sure, man, I was going to say that, But
I feel like i'd put in probably twenty two the twenty two short films.
That's my favorite episode of all time because just think it just signifies Springfield as
a whole, doesn't it. It just shows you a real insight into the
Springfield community. It captures everything too. It's the most quotable. Every single
segment of that is a meme in itself, like the most iconic episode in
terms of what it produced. But the Steamed Hands alone is the same thing
pulp fiction. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that being one of my
favorite movies makes it even better. Yeah. As a kid, though I
had never seen pop fictions, I was like, I don't know what's going
on here. It's funny, but I don't get it. And then when
you get older, you're like, oh shit, this is awesome, funny
man, because we only we just sat through Twin Peaks and so I'd never
seen that. And then when it's like the yeah, I never understood that
referenced but now again, especially where he's like, brilliant, I have no
idea what's going on. That's how I felt pretty much to the entire duration,
so very relatable content. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. So is
that your marathon set? That would be my marathon. Yeah, that'd be
a pretty good marathon. Yeah. There was something about, like it's hard
to describe to a kid now the idea of a marathon and how exciting it
was. You know, you're at school, You're like, oh, it's
gonna be a Simpsons marathon tonight. I can't wait. Like, you get
your videotap, you put it on long plays so you can take longer.
You know, you fit all the episodes on the one vhah. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. Marathons, they're just they're a dying breed, now,
aren't they. All the people do people's binge watching now binge watches like the
modern day marathon. Well, that's how I feel about video stores. Man.
The nothing was more exciting as a young teenager going to the video store
selecting your perfect five or six movies and then coming home and just like knowing
that You've got this sick lineup of movies waiting for you. But like as
much as I'm nostalgic for it, you still wouldn't want to go back to
that with the accessibility that we have now. Yeah, it's I mean,
if they opened up a video store now, I'd probably go there, like
occasionally, just for the nostalgia factor, you know, with people that still
watch the vhs like they would just like they've gone on blue ray, but
for the nosnaalgia, they'll watch it on VHS. I'm not I do that
very sometimes, maybe once or twice a year, because I've got like the
old VH. I've got like Jaws on VHS and like Dressy Park and stuff,
and I've got the old box television cause I've got like my old like
Nintendo Serpa and stuff like Duck Hunt, and they work best with the old
school TV. So that's why I've got the old school TV. So I'm
like, and you put it on, you like, how the fuck did
I ever think this was like good quality? It's like, is it rough?
I haven't seen vhas quality in forever, man, So is it a
rock? I mean it's it's not great. And like the TV loud the
Big Box. Turn it on. It's like yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's just you can like you put the TV on it and it's almost like
you can feel that it's on in the room. You can feel the radiation
in the room. Yeah yeah, yeah, but yeah, but a good
time. But yeah, thank you again, man, I do appreciate you
coming on to the show and chat some Simpsons ship posting. Well, I
was going to say, if anyone needs good admins in Simpsons group, lookout
for Sorker, Ryan at Bought posting, She's Rad's Karna, Martin and Rubys
and Eddie at thrill House or me. They're the best. They're the best
ones looking for those ones, they're the best. Well yeah, taking my
own bias, they're the best. And can you can you give us before
you go. Give us a tease of an upcoming meme that you're excited for,
that you've got an idea. I know you planted that yoga idea into
my brain now, so maybe the yoga one I work credit for that one.
Yeah for sure. Yeah, we'll figure thiscout