1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:05,080 The honor of having in cdo with me dear friend Tim Krukshank, founder of 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:11,000 Bone Frog Coffee and Friends, and man who's recently been through a horrible loss. 3 00:00:11,439 --> 00:00:16,199 I also had the honor of hanging out with him and sharing each other's 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,920 challenges this weekend with three other Christian men or two other Christian men together, 5 00:00:21,039 --> 00:00:24,879 Tim and I we're gonna work into talking about this loss. But we're going 6 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:30,399 to start by talking about a T shirt Tim's wearing that says something notable about 7 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,560 the Navy Seals, and frankly, I'm going to seek his inputs on this 8 00:00:34,759 --> 00:00:38,759 madness I've done to myself of agreeing to go to seal Fit and already's committing 9 00:00:38,799 --> 00:00:43,520 the money and we'll talk about this. Plus, dealing with grief is a 10 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,560 strong man. It's hard. It's an expiration process for a lot of people, 11 00:00:47,799 --> 00:00:51,000 and I think strong men need to hear from a very strong man and 12 00:00:51,039 --> 00:00:55,079 what he's going through. We'll do this with the help of renew dot Healthcare, 13 00:00:55,159 --> 00:00:59,439 that's renew r e n ue dot Healthcare, and of course with God 14 00:00:59,439 --> 00:01:07,120 Almighty. The Todd Herman Show is one hundred percent disapproved by big pharma technocrats 15 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:15,239 and tyrants everywhere. No, from the High Mountains of Free America. Here's 16 00:01:15,359 --> 00:01:30,480 the Emerald City exile. Todd Herman. Today is a day the Lord has 17 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,560 made, and these are the time to which God has decided we shall live. 18 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,040 And what an honor to sit next to my dear friend Tim Krukshank in 19 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,519 studio. You guys have heard him, seen pictures, but first time most 20 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,079 people have seen you on video. So good to have you in the High 21 00:01:44,079 --> 00:01:47,079 Mountains of Free America. Thank you man, It's pretty cool to be here. 22 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,400 Thanks for having me. Todd. What do you think about it? 23 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,000 It's you know, driving over from Washington, it's like when you come across 24 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:59,280 the border, you're it's like you're entering America. I was joking that with 25 00:01:59,319 --> 00:02:01,040 my brothers. I'm like, you know, as you go across the border, 26 00:02:01,079 --> 00:02:07,760 there should be you know, a border check and fireworks and all kinds 27 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:09,120 of stuff. You know, It's it's pretty cool. How do you find 28 00:02:09,159 --> 00:02:15,360 the people? Oh god, it's amazing. Everybody we've met has been kind 29 00:02:15,439 --> 00:02:21,319 and thoughtful and friendly and neighborly. And it's like going back in time the 30 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,680 way it used to be. Yeah, and you don't feel that in the 31 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:28,479 Seattle area. No, it's pretty it's pretty nice over here. Yeah, 32 00:02:28,479 --> 00:02:34,039 there's a coldness. I think it's interesting because the Sattle area prides itself on 33 00:02:34,159 --> 00:02:37,879 being they're the kind ones of the talnrant ones. It's almost cliched to point 34 00:02:37,879 --> 00:02:40,400 that out, but they they're They're the ones who spend all the money to 35 00:02:40,479 --> 00:02:44,520 help the homeless, and they're the ones who are voting for all these these 36 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,639 policies that are supposed to be very kind, and yet at the heart of 37 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:53,639 the city there really is a coldness and decision to look the other way. 38 00:02:53,680 --> 00:03:00,479 And I know that's kind of the cases in big cities, but it's has 39 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,400 it been recent that you've noticed that over there, that that heart has changed 40 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,439 or like yeah, And I'm not saying that there aren't kind people, because 41 00:03:07,439 --> 00:03:10,199 there still are some over there, but I think they're all starting to move 42 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:15,360 over here. Last time I was here and I went to church, I 43 00:03:15,719 --> 00:03:19,000 met all kinds of people that I know. I'm like, oh my god, 44 00:03:19,039 --> 00:03:23,639 you've moved over here. But yeah, you're starting to see that slip 45 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:28,719 away. And it's kind of sad. Neighbors aren't talking to each other anymore, 46 00:03:28,719 --> 00:03:34,000 and people have lost their their manners. You know, you go to 47 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,439 Costco, you go to the stores, and they're remn you with their carts 48 00:03:37,479 --> 00:03:39,879 and nobody says excuse me anymore, or open the stores for each other. 49 00:03:39,919 --> 00:03:44,400 It's just it's weird to see that all starting to go away because it's what 50 00:03:44,439 --> 00:03:47,680 we had growing up. Where'd you get your manners? My parents, my 51 00:03:49,639 --> 00:03:53,439 parents. My dad was a marine and my mom was a stay at home 52 00:03:53,479 --> 00:03:55,840 mom, And you know, they raised us the way I think all of 53 00:03:55,879 --> 00:04:01,800 our neighbor kids are raised to be courteous and kind. And the neighbor's parents 54 00:04:01,879 --> 00:04:05,479 policed us as well. You know, if you messed up over at their 55 00:04:05,479 --> 00:04:09,719 house, there anya as well, and they'd call your parents. And this 56 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,240 is just the way it was back then, right. You know, there 57 00:04:12,719 --> 00:04:20,000 is a closeness that can be created through courtesy because you are being reflexively kind. 58 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:24,480 And I was in the show earlier this week talking about Blessed are the 59 00:04:24,519 --> 00:04:28,319 merciful, for they will receive mercy, Yeah right, and showing that. 60 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,519 And I've told the story before us. I won't make a long version of 61 00:04:30,519 --> 00:04:33,360 it. But when we moved over here, my wife had taken care of 62 00:04:33,399 --> 00:04:39,079 the closing of the house and the last details she drove over during a snowstorm, 63 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,839 and my daughter and I were already here and we've got the house sort 64 00:04:41,879 --> 00:04:44,680 of set up, and we split duties that way. She dropped by this 65 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:49,759 store before she drove home. Walking out of the store, the grocery bags 66 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:56,199 broke and she built spilled groceries all over the sidewalk, and a woman in 67 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,439 her eighties stopped and said, honey, let me help you pick this up. 68 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,399 Let me help you, and my wife said no, no, no, 69 00:05:01,439 --> 00:05:03,360 ma'am, it's cold, because no, let me help you. And 70 00:05:03,399 --> 00:05:09,160 then a big dude in a big truck, high rise truck stop. Women, 71 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,439 you ladies getting in your cars, it's cold in here. I'll pick 72 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,720 this up. Where do you want this? Man? Good, it's good. 73 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,839 And my wife drove home in tears because her view of her experience of 74 00:05:18,879 --> 00:05:21,360 seatow would have been get the hell out of the way. Where are you 75 00:05:21,439 --> 00:05:26,839 blocking? People? Picked that up? Yeah? Where's that coming from? 76 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,639 Man? I don't know. I don't know, but we all need to 77 00:05:30,639 --> 00:05:34,519 try to make the difference. And I think they were talking at church about 78 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:39,240 you know, we wait for those kind of things to happen like they used 79 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,480 to happen. Yeah, but to not wait anymore. We need to be 80 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,480 the change and step up and make sure that we are setting the example and 81 00:05:46,519 --> 00:05:50,800 getting out of our cars and helping people ladies with strollers and people that are 82 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:55,560 dropping things or whatever. Just be courteous and kind. When you come to 83 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,240 a place like this in Idaho and everybody is nice and friendly to you, 84 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:08,160 it changes your demeanor and who you are. You're happier, you want to 85 00:06:08,199 --> 00:06:12,120 be friendlier. And we can make that change over on the other side of 86 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,800 the mountains too. We just we just got to do it. Yeah, 87 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,560 well, we can make the change around the country and around the world. 88 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:21,399 And look, I failed on this front of being the guy to reach out. 89 00:06:21,439 --> 00:06:28,079 When my dad was living, he was such a such ill health and 90 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,160 he made the decision to be that way, and it was a passive decision. 91 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,199 Part of it was passive aggressive. I won't change for the world. 92 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:39,360 So my dad refused to treat his thyroid, he refused to treat his obesity, 93 00:06:39,959 --> 00:06:43,240 and I feel shamed that didn't go to him and just take over. 94 00:06:43,879 --> 00:06:46,879 So I can't make up for that. He's gone to the Lord. Thankfully, 95 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,240 I can make it up for it with this podcast. Family to have 96 00:06:49,319 --> 00:06:55,040 this blunt conversation. 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You're wearing a shirts if you're on the video service. 113 00:07:55,319 --> 00:07:58,000 If you're not using the video service, you can get a seven day free 114 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,959 trial at video dot to Todd hermitshow dot com. That way you can see 115 00:08:00,959 --> 00:08:03,680 what Tim and I look like chatting together. You can see Tim's shirt. 116 00:08:03,759 --> 00:08:07,199 It says on it the deed is all US Navy seals. So I have 117 00:08:07,279 --> 00:08:09,600 one of the backs as the deed is all, but it says a little 118 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,000 bit more. We're both wearing bone frog shirts. What does that mean? 119 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:22,120 So ed buyers who received the Medal of Honor during his ceremony use this saying, 120 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,160 and it's a saying from somebody else. The deed is all, not 121 00:08:24,279 --> 00:08:31,279 the glory. And the younger guys took it and put it above the platoon 122 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,440 huts as a reminder that we all, regardless of what it is, do 123 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:41,159 our job, not seeking attention or glory for what we do, but just 124 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,159 doing our job. I made some T shirts like the one you're wearing that 125 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,879 has the whole saying on the back of it. But then I decided to 126 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,960 shorten it a little bit just to the deed is all, because I think 127 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,759 it has a lot of meaning for different people. And it doesn't have to 128 00:08:54,799 --> 00:08:58,559 be you know, you're a Navy seal and you're going and doing your job, 129 00:08:58,639 --> 00:09:01,840 and that. It could be the stay at home mom doing her job. 130 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,759 It could be the dad that's going out and working two jobs to provide 131 00:09:05,759 --> 00:09:09,799 for his family. It could be anything. And I use it kind of 132 00:09:09,879 --> 00:09:13,759 like the old saying, just do it, but I think this has a 133 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:18,600 much deeper meaning. It's one of our most popular shirts because everybody's got something 134 00:09:18,639 --> 00:09:24,559 in their lives that they're doing and we should be doing. And we learned 135 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,879 about that in church yesterday, that we should be doing these things for the 136 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:33,440 right reasons and not seeking attention. God knows what we're doing and that's all 137 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,360 that matters. Are you bothered at all by the attention that the teams gets 138 00:09:37,399 --> 00:09:46,840 and people who market their you know, the job of seals into fame or 139 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,480 leverage. That does that bother you at all? I don't know. I 140 00:09:52,879 --> 00:09:58,799 think you know, partly guys are using that too, as long as we're 141 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,080 doing it in the right way right, not seeking attention for ourselves, but 142 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:07,279 using it to help other people. So I think it's kind of a double 143 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,120 edged sword. But I think in the end, you know, we are 144 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:16,440 supposed to be silent warriors. We're supposed to do this job without seeking the 145 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:22,120 attention and just do your job. Bone Frogs are respectful God Country team on 146 00:10:22,159 --> 00:10:26,000 the coffee bags and obviously ten percent of proceeds go to the Navy Seal Foundation, 147 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:30,159 so you don't hide the fact that you're a seal obviously, but you 148 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,200 all start coming out and saying, I Tim did these great things, and 149 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,000 here are the deeds I created. It's not about me, not about me, 150 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,679 It's about one The whole reason I created the company was to honor my 151 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,720 teammates. That's it, and you know, for people to learn about them 152 00:10:45,799 --> 00:10:50,080 so they didn't die in vain. Keep saying their names, tell the stories. 153 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:56,159 And we make a promise to each other that if something happens to you, 154 00:10:56,159 --> 00:10:58,000 your wife and kids will be taking care of for the rest of their 155 00:10:58,039 --> 00:11:01,960 lives. And that's why we back to help the community, which is like 156 00:11:03,039 --> 00:11:05,799 a family for all of us. You know, it's important to me. 157 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,360 That's an expressed promise. You guys make each other that's cool. Yeah, 158 00:11:09,399 --> 00:11:16,120 that's really cool. Tell me about a teammate comes to mind. The first, 159 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:22,639 the first guy that was close to me that I lost was Neil Roberts 160 00:11:22,279 --> 00:11:28,240 in the beginning of the war, and the story of Neil and what he 161 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:33,519 did, and I'll give you a brief synopsis of this because most people won't 162 00:11:33,519 --> 00:11:35,879 get this. In the beginning of the war in Afghanistan, Neil was in 163 00:11:35,919 --> 00:11:41,679 the back of a helicopter. He wasn't strapped in, but you know, 164 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:46,279 he was leaning out the back and looking at troops on the ground and trying 165 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:52,519 to gather some intel. They got hit by an RPG and that hit caused 166 00:11:52,519 --> 00:11:58,320 the helicopter to shift suddenly and he fell out the back, fell out the 167 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:05,039 back. Now, from what reports have told us, in drone footage has 168 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:11,240 shown there was over two hundred Taliban advancing on him. What would most people 169 00:12:11,279 --> 00:12:15,960 do, right, You'd run, But Neil didn't. He engaged the enemy 170 00:12:16,039 --> 00:12:20,720 by himself with his primary until he ran out of bullets, eliminating a lot 171 00:12:20,759 --> 00:12:26,320 of them, went to his secondary and kept advancing on them in the wide 172 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:31,519 open, in the wide open, with no cover, until he ran out 173 00:12:31,519 --> 00:12:37,960 of bullets with his secondary. They overran him, and later the guys found 174 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,639 his body in its gear and went and eliminated the rest of this taliban. 175 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,320 But that's the mindset. Those are the stories that we want to tell these 176 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:48,399 guys in their heroic acts. And he didn't do it to be a hero. 177 00:12:48,639 --> 00:12:52,840 He did it because of who he was as a human being, and 178 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:56,200 that's how he was trained. And he didn't think twice about doing it. 179 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:00,360 And I could tell you story after story after story like that. And it 180 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:03,320 was guys like Neil that you know, when I retired, I had lost 181 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,879 so many friends that I had to tell their stories. And that's what Bone 182 00:13:07,879 --> 00:13:11,399 Frog is all about. Keith Kamura created the Bone Frog and it became this 183 00:13:11,639 --> 00:13:16,480 iconic symbol and the seal teams that represented all those guys that lost their lives. 184 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:22,759 I think, if I'm not mistaken, before I put the money down 185 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:28,159 to go do Seal Fit, which is in Tohno outside of Coronado, and 186 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,000 Mark Devine runs this, you know, yeah, all of Mark. If 187 00:13:31,039 --> 00:13:35,600 you don't know Mark, and I think I called you and said, would 188 00:13:35,639 --> 00:13:41,039 you be okay if I did this? Because I'm desperately aware that people go 189 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:46,200 play soldier and I don't have you You went shooting me with this weekend out 190 00:13:46,279 --> 00:13:50,639 the capacity play a soldier, but you you said it was okay. Yeah, 191 00:13:50,919 --> 00:13:54,639 right, Yeah. Mark's put on a really great program out there. 192 00:13:54,840 --> 00:14:01,399 Yeah. And it's it's not playing soldier really, it's it's finding something within 193 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,559 yourself. It's really what it's about. Yeah, for some guys, it's 194 00:14:03,639 --> 00:14:07,840 maybe training to get ready, the younger guys, but for a lot of 195 00:14:07,919 --> 00:14:11,480 guys that he has there, maybe it's team building they're looking for. Maybe 196 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:16,879 it's finding something within yourself you didn't know you had, or confidence building or 197 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:22,279 whatever it is. I think it's a great program set up there are because 198 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:26,600 we get cohorts that you get in meetings with before you go. I'm going 199 00:14:26,639 --> 00:14:31,039 to be one of the oldest guys. And I asked you the other day 200 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,919 a question, what's the trick you guys had to wear these utility pants and 201 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,320 these boots and it's hot, And I said, what's the trick for staying 202 00:14:39,399 --> 00:14:41,440 cool? You said, the most comforting thing, even what you told me. 203 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:46,720 Yeah, there's not no no trick, no tricks. It's just hot. 204 00:14:46,799 --> 00:14:48,559 You just have to deal with that. Yeah. Yeah, I went 205 00:14:48,679 --> 00:14:54,440 and did a workout yesterday where I purposely got in kit and ran this five 206 00:14:54,559 --> 00:15:01,200 k uh and that heat is such a separator and ninety one degrees, you 207 00:15:01,279 --> 00:15:03,720 know, by the time I run down to the lake and then back up 208 00:15:03,759 --> 00:15:11,240 to my house. I'm I'm I'm really wondering if that's if all the things 209 00:15:11,279 --> 00:15:13,840 I worry about, I mean, getting hurt, that's a likelihood I will 210 00:15:13,879 --> 00:15:16,080 get hurt. I just hope it don't get injured. I will obviously get 211 00:15:16,159 --> 00:15:22,480 hurt. But what was your Did you have a concern when you went to 212 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,759 buds, which you know, my thing is a tiny little pursis Was it 213 00:15:26,879 --> 00:15:31,159 heat? Was it exhaustion? Was it did you have any concerns? No? 214 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,399 And I joke with my friends that I think when we were young like 215 00:15:35,519 --> 00:15:39,759 that, yeah, you feel invincible, right, So I didn't even think 216 00:15:39,799 --> 00:15:43,200 about it. Okay, honestly, I didn't even think about it. Okay, 217 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,399 I've done a twelve hour workout, I've done a sixteen hour workout. 218 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:50,919 Those things were done in the cool. I completely aired in this, like 219 00:15:52,519 --> 00:15:56,919 help me here, So going into what I went into back then, there 220 00:15:58,039 --> 00:16:02,200 wasn't a lot of information out there. There was more information, and I 221 00:16:02,279 --> 00:16:06,279 think it was you know, it's hearsay and myth and hear all these things, 222 00:16:06,399 --> 00:16:10,840 and you didn't really know what to expect unless you knew somebody who had 223 00:16:10,919 --> 00:16:15,039 gone through it and they could give you information. So you heard a lot 224 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,039 of things, a lot of rumors, a lot of stuff, but you 225 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:22,080 didn't know until you got there. So you're not gonna tell me. You 226 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:26,039 tried to get ready the best you could. And I'm not nervous, but 227 00:16:26,279 --> 00:16:32,799 I'm become uneasy with the weather factor because I don't know how I train to 228 00:16:32,919 --> 00:16:34,799 be a ninety one degree weather every single day, twelve hours a day, 229 00:16:34,799 --> 00:16:37,080 and I'm not going to do that because that would be overtraining, like well, 230 00:16:37,559 --> 00:16:44,120 you know, unless you live somewhere that's like that constantly. I think, 231 00:16:44,559 --> 00:16:47,440 you know, going into it everyding, Oh you got to immerse yourself 232 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,679 in ice water in a bathtub and you got to you know, prep yourself 233 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,039 like that. It doesn't help you get there. And it's still cold and 234 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:57,600 it's still okay, and it's still you figure it out as you're going through 235 00:16:57,639 --> 00:17:02,080 it, all right, that's part of the problem. Well, I've made 236 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:06,240 the decision that there is I don't want to go in there in a I'm 237 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,039 going to get through this mentality. I've made the decision. I'm want to 238 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:11,640 go and thrive and I unscrive and go and learn. It's a learning process. 239 00:17:11,839 --> 00:17:15,480 Yeah, And I want to seek a moment where as an old man 240 00:17:15,559 --> 00:17:18,839 I can be helpful to the team. I deeply. My biggest worry in 241 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:22,640 this is that if I'm seven young guys, oh great, we get grandpa 242 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:26,200 right that I want to find some way that Grandpa brings something to the table, 243 00:17:26,839 --> 00:17:30,319 because dang it, I don't want to screw up my cohort. Right. 244 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,240 That's you're not okay, You're going to be fine. So Tim tell 245 00:17:33,319 --> 00:17:41,039 us about another teammate, Brian Bill. Brian Bill was a dev group part 246 00:17:41,079 --> 00:17:47,680 of Extortion one seven. It's one of our bags and it's meant solely to 247 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:53,319 honor everyone that lost their lives in that mission. That off has a lot 248 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:59,599 of question marks. It was the largest loss of life in so Common history. 249 00:18:00,039 --> 00:18:03,039 And yes, there are question marks. And that's a whole other thing. 250 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:11,039 His parents do a fundraiser, a big foundation dinner, a golf tournament 251 00:18:11,079 --> 00:18:15,839 every year in June up in Connecticut. I went to the one two years 252 00:18:15,839 --> 00:18:18,839 ago. I couldn't make it this share because of everything that we had gone 253 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:26,200 on. But take a look at the Brian Bill Foundation and what they're doing 254 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:33,960 up in Connecticut and honor all those brave American souls that sacrifice their lives. 255 00:18:37,519 --> 00:18:41,759 It's truly, truly an amazing story in those guys. Okay, check out 256 00:18:41,799 --> 00:18:45,319 the foundation, Brian Burill Foundation. Right. Put a link in the show 257 00:18:45,559 --> 00:18:49,400 to the Brian Bill Foundation. The reason that there's myth that has grown up 258 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:55,799 around you guys, I think I think the reason is the range of things 259 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:00,680 you can do and then stories like that, and it's it's I know that 260 00:19:00,799 --> 00:19:04,160 that you don't have to be a seal to do that for someone you serve 261 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,039 with. But I think it's a small team thing. I think it's the 262 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,640 six to eight guys. I think that we can all understand, like, 263 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:15,640 well, you're really part of a small unit. Like when you guys are 264 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:19,680 deployed together. Is there anything you don't end up knowing about each other? 265 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:26,000 No? No, because you you go through training that's somewhat of a you 266 00:19:26,079 --> 00:19:30,640 know, a crucible so to speak. You know, so you at a 267 00:19:30,759 --> 00:19:37,279 baseline, you've all been through this same pain and suffering, you know what 268 00:19:37,279 --> 00:19:40,559 I mean. So you're all brought together in a team room, and then 269 00:19:40,599 --> 00:19:45,279 you get to know each other, and we train together so closely, and 270 00:19:48,319 --> 00:19:51,720 you get to know each other. I was talking to a friend recently about 271 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:56,480 you know, in the dark, I can tell you who's you know manning 272 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,440 at the time, the sixty now the two forty by the sound and rhythm 273 00:20:00,519 --> 00:20:06,000 of how they shoot. Wow, you can tell a guy who it is 274 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:11,960 and how they walk and you hear their footsteps. We were able in a 275 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:17,759 lot of cases to function without talking with just hand signals. And even then 276 00:20:18,839 --> 00:20:23,119 we're operating at such a high level when we move through areas that we operate 277 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,519 by second nature because our training takes over. We know each other better than 278 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:33,440 we know anybody. And that's why we're so close in such a brotherhood and 279 00:20:33,759 --> 00:20:37,799 willing to give our lives for each other because you know, yeah, we 280 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,039 love each other. Yeah, yeah. I wanted to ask you and give 281 00:20:41,079 --> 00:20:45,240 you a second to think about this of when you lose a teammate you mentioned 282 00:20:45,319 --> 00:20:51,279 Neil. You guys don't really I think I've heard you say this. You 283 00:20:51,319 --> 00:20:53,720 don't really have time on the battlefield to process what just happened. I mean, 284 00:20:53,799 --> 00:20:57,319 you're aware of it, that happens in some ways. I guess you 285 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,599 have the advantage of now you can go out on and op and take out 286 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,519 the people who took out your friend, which is your job, and it's 287 00:21:04,559 --> 00:21:07,359 not going to happen in another seal. And I don't know because I've never 288 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,240 served, but to me that would be a little bit cathartic. We went 289 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,880 took care of the guys who ended our friend's life, all right. I 290 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:22,079 wanted to talk to you about processing grief on the battlefield afterwards, when you 291 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:26,160 guys do that and then transition into I think the biggest grief you've ever faced. 292 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:32,559 And this podcast family has stepped up to help. They love you, 293 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,359 and they were really really great, you know, and happy to do that. 294 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,759 I'll light in the mood by asking you just take a big inhale smell 295 00:21:40,839 --> 00:21:44,359 this. They smell like a thunderstorm. And here, so it's right over 296 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,400 there behind my robe fit and the shirt. There's a device called the Eden 297 00:21:47,559 --> 00:21:51,240 Pure oxy Leaf two. We plug it in the studio here. We don't 298 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,920 get to have the doors and windows open, and it allows us to not 299 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:00,880 live here in a terrible coffee breath air because I actually do drink Tim's coffee 300 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,039 all day long and I bring my gym bag in here. A lot of 301 00:22:03,079 --> 00:22:07,359 reasons for it will smell bad. There's also, of course, then the 302 00:22:07,559 --> 00:22:11,799 ultimate test. It's just cat litter. So I decided at the house to 303 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,519 not change the cat litter for six straight weeks and to keep the oxy leaf 304 00:22:15,599 --> 00:22:19,000 two that as over. They're getting sick. I didn't do that, but 305 00:22:19,079 --> 00:22:22,200 they really are. Powerfully. We come back from a day and then maybe 306 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,279 the catletter's not been changed. It doesn't stink. I mean want to be 307 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,400 hygienic. We don't want gross houses. But the fact is sometimes pats create 308 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:33,440 accidents. The oxy leaf too. Thunderstorm negates that I told you about my 309 00:22:33,519 --> 00:22:36,200 friend Ben this week. In fact, I showed you the text message from 310 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,400 Ben. He left bear sausage in his truck and it aged helpfully across three 311 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,279 or four days locked into his truck, and it stunk to high heaven. 312 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,839 He put the ox leaf to Thunderstorm in his truck. Overnight the smell was 313 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,960 gone. It also got rid of the fake new car smell. It produces 314 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:56,200 ozone O three, which bonds to the bad smelling molecules and just destroys them. 315 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,160 It eliminates them. It's not an air filter. Those things are a 316 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,880 fool's errand because you buy them, then you have to replace the filters every 317 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:07,480 year. Two to four hundred bucks. This is an air purifier that once 318 00:23:07,519 --> 00:23:10,920 in a while you wipe off with a warm cloth. That's it. You 319 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,400 can save two hundred dollars right now on the oxy leaf to Thunderstorm. Go 320 00:23:15,559 --> 00:23:19,599 to eatinpure deals dot com use code Todd three. Three of these units under 321 00:23:19,599 --> 00:23:23,920 two hundred bucks is literally two hundred dollars savings. Eatinpure deals dot com use 322 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,799 code Todd three. When you lose a guy like Michael, you lose a 323 00:23:27,839 --> 00:23:33,880 teammate like Neil, do you guys you can't process? I think on the 324 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,960 battlefield. I think you've told me that. When do you process that? 325 00:23:37,759 --> 00:23:41,359 It's a good question. Yeah, in the beginning of the war and for 326 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:48,119 a long time you just did it on your own. Figure out a way 327 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,839 to do that. You know, they train you to do a job, 328 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:59,759 but the back end part of it was lacking a little bit. They then 329 00:24:00,039 --> 00:24:06,200 created a place for us coming out of country to go and download for a 330 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:11,000 couple of weeks decompress prior to coming back home. And then there's a lot 331 00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:15,440 of things that are set up back here in the States to deal with it. 332 00:24:17,519 --> 00:24:19,759 But I think it's still something that we can do a lot better job 333 00:24:19,839 --> 00:24:25,359 at. So there's not like a there's not a ceremony when this happens overseas. 334 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:26,680 You don't get to get into the team room, drink whiskey, do 335 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:30,119 something. I had a toast to a buddy, recognize anything like that. 336 00:24:30,279 --> 00:24:33,039 Yeah there is. Yeah, you don't need to talk about it, Yeah 337 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,759 there is. Yeah, it's I don't know how much that helps. Yeah, 338 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:44,519 you know, yeah, yeah, I think you know. When my 339 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,119 dad died, we had that ceremony that he prescribed for us. You will 340 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,799 go a ton of pizza, you eat a bunch of hamburgers, you get 341 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,799 drink beer, drink soda. My dad liked food, and so we had 342 00:24:55,839 --> 00:24:59,279 the occasion to go do that as a family, and that was a ritual 343 00:24:59,319 --> 00:25:03,960 that he and I have at that time. And you are right now going 344 00:25:04,079 --> 00:25:10,160 through tremendous grief, and I feel your brother getting tense in this, and 345 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,119 I want you to know that you're loved and we love you, and what 346 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:15,559 happens happens, and if you don't want to talk about it, you say 347 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:22,759 end and we'll end Okay, I will try, Okay. I know we've 348 00:25:22,839 --> 00:25:29,759 been honored this podcast family at give sango dot com slash help our tim A 349 00:25:29,839 --> 00:25:34,440 lot of people here donated now in excess of fifty thousand bucks and outside of 350 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,640 this audience too. It's not just the podcast family, but it started here. 351 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,839 And the notes that I see people leaving to a man they've never met 352 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,000 because they've heard about Liz. First of all, I just wanted you to 353 00:25:48,319 --> 00:25:51,279 have an occasion to say something to these guys if you want to. That 354 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,759 I'm really grateful for because there are people that have reached out to me by 355 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:03,039 text and email and handwritten letters and stopped by the shop and talk to me. 356 00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:08,839 And I can't even thank all of you enough for taking the time to 357 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:17,480 do that having never met me. I am so grateful for that, and 358 00:26:17,599 --> 00:26:22,160 it's a reminder of the quality of people that are out there, your listeners. 359 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,440 Thank you. And I I know that I'm not the only one going 360 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:33,440 through pain and suffering. It happens to people every single day, and that's 361 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:37,519 you know why, I'm so grateful to all of you for you know, 362 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,400 reaching out to me. Thank you. E've been a physicians assistant in the 363 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,960 world you were I was. When I say medic on the seal teams, 364 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,759 people yell at me a Corman, people yell at me for calling you medical. 365 00:26:48,799 --> 00:26:53,160 I've heard you say medic You saw death, you saw families go through 366 00:26:53,240 --> 00:27:00,079 this. When you look at the process you're going through now, and you 367 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,160 just recognize conye that this happens every day to human beings. What's been most 368 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,880 surprising for you? You lost Liz now, gosh was a month ago. 369 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,960 Three weeks ago? Yeah, May twenty second, May twenty second, and 370 00:27:12,319 --> 00:27:18,680 I had the memorial service July first. What's been most surprising for you, 371 00:27:18,799 --> 00:27:22,759 Tim about the process? Now that you've seen people go through it. You've 372 00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:26,759 watched other people as a physician's assistant, you've seen death. What surprised you 373 00:27:26,839 --> 00:27:32,680 about your experiences now you've lost your wife. I'm not sure I understand the 374 00:27:32,759 --> 00:27:36,839 question completely as far as the medical part, as far as the grieving part. 375 00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:38,920 Yeah, I mean, I want to talk about medicine and the medical 376 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,640 part. But I guess the question is this, let me have both done 377 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,680 to this. You've seen death in the battlefield, you've seen it in hospitals, 378 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,720 You've been there when you said goodbye to your wife, and you were 379 00:27:53,759 --> 00:27:56,319 holding her hand, and you made this heroic trip to go see your daughter 380 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,759 graduate. Is there any part of your motion response, any part of your 381 00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:10,920 cognitive response that surprised you. No? No, Yeah, I'm glad to 382 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,000 hear you say that. No. You know why I'm glad to hear you 383 00:28:14,079 --> 00:28:18,400 say that. It is because it shows this connection you've had to your patients 384 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:22,240 and your teammates, and that this didn't surprise you. But it's magnified. 385 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,640 It's magnified. Let's take a breath and have you tell me about Liz, 386 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,079 the Liz we some of us got to meet only rarely. But tell us 387 00:28:32,079 --> 00:28:36,759 about Liz the human being, the mom, the seventeen moves and standing by 388 00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:42,359 your kids and the teacher, and how she inspired people when we first met. 389 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,119 And I apologize if I cry, you have permission to cry. You 390 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:55,440 have permission to cry. These people love you. I love you. If 391 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,079 it's too soon, we'll back off. I want to talk about her, 392 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:04,119 talk about it. So when we first met, there was an immediate connection 393 00:29:06,319 --> 00:29:11,720 and we just never stopped talking, and we made a very conscious effort to 394 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:15,480 raise our family like what we had in the Seal teams as a team, 395 00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:22,079 and so she would sign her her emails co founder Team Crukshank. But it 396 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:29,440 was a mindset that we as a family were back to back right. Each 397 00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:33,799 person was a valuable member of the team, and their voices were heard, 398 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:38,400 and so there was buy in. And I think a lot of people they 399 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:44,160 don't give their kids the opportunity to speak up right, it's the parents only, 400 00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:48,799 it's my way or the highway, and we gave our kids that. 401 00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:56,319 She was a force of nature. She was loving and kind, and she 402 00:29:56,559 --> 00:30:07,359 sacrificed everything for the team, for the family, her career, her sanity. 403 00:30:08,119 --> 00:30:12,279 You know, she was a stay at home mom, and when something 404 00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:18,200 happened with kids at school, she's fierce and she protected them with everything that 405 00:30:18,319 --> 00:30:25,920 she had. And you know, people that watched the service saw what our 406 00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:30,440 kids had to say about her, and it was you know, when it 407 00:30:30,519 --> 00:30:33,279 came down to her being ill, having a team member go down, someone 408 00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:40,480 that we loved and adored. I put every ounce of energy into helping her 409 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:45,400 because that's what she would do for me. Yea, And honestly, it 410 00:30:45,559 --> 00:30:56,359 was an honor to stand by her side, hold her hand through arguably one 411 00:30:56,359 --> 00:31:02,359 of the most difficult times of all of our lives. She deployed you, 412 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,279 Bro, she deployed you. Do you mind if I tell that story because 413 00:31:06,319 --> 00:31:11,759 it might be hard for you. If we don't want to, I'll hold 414 00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:15,359 back. Okay, hold back. Let's not talk about that right now. 415 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,680 Okay, got it. Tell me about the kids, man, your kids 416 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:26,000 rock stars, superstars and like that team thing. What does that mean? 417 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,119 Like that they grew up with God Country team? Like I saw someone sent 418 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,599 me a note, Bro, someone sent me a note. They got your 419 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,200 coffee and it was signed by one of your daughters. And you already said 420 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,240 in Twitter, goes, I'm keeping this one. And he's a subscriber, 421 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,640 Like dude, I got a note from Tim's daughter, Yeah, signing that. 422 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:48,920 That was huge. So the reason we do the notes it goes back 423 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,119 to just and we talked about this the beginning of the show. It's how 424 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:57,160 you're raised, right my mom, get on us. You know, if 425 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,400 somebody sent you something or something, I she write them a note to say 426 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:05,759 thank you. And it's the same way running a business. I think people 427 00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:12,599 will get I don't know what the word is. Things have become so corporate, 428 00:32:12,759 --> 00:32:15,480 right, and they want to know that they're supporting a family that is 429 00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:20,799 not it's family running it and the values that it supports, and to me, 430 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,519 it's important. From day one, we wrote thank you notes to people 431 00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:28,240 and we try to vary them up a little bit. But you know, 432 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,400 all the kids work at the business, and we even you know, before 433 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:36,240 the service, Liz's mom was there and she was we call her Grandma bon 434 00:32:36,359 --> 00:32:42,920 Bon. Her name is Bonnie Bond, So she was signing notes Grandma bon 435 00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:45,920 Bon thank you, and you know, so she even she was in there 436 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:51,079 helping out and she loved it. It was great. But that's that's what 437 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,519 the company is all about. We're grateful for all of our customers and supporting 438 00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,799 us, and we try to make that known the best that we can. 439 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:06,599 Yeah, you know, making it through today. Yeah, I get in 440 00:33:06,839 --> 00:33:12,920 guilt spirals because you and I have different jobs. And part of my job 441 00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:16,519 here is this isn't a day where I will be on Mike for five hours. 442 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:22,400 And this feeds me because I'm here with a friend and I'm getting to 443 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:27,480 look you in the eye and share things with you. Oftentimes it's just me 444 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,759 pouring into this and I try to not filter things. I try to be 445 00:33:30,839 --> 00:33:36,000 who I am on the show, and I'm blessed by these emails people send 446 00:33:36,039 --> 00:33:38,519 me, and they're long tim they're five to six paragraphs, and people pouring 447 00:33:38,599 --> 00:33:44,119 hearts out to me. And at the end of a five hour recording session, 448 00:33:45,519 --> 00:33:50,000 it's really difficult for me to have the emotional reserve to give a note 449 00:33:50,119 --> 00:33:52,559 like that the honor at Desert, Yes, which is a five a five 450 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:57,599 paragraph response, and just to write back and say hey, I got your 451 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,440 notes, thank you, God bless you feels worse than not responding sometimes. 452 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:05,759 So I get these emails that build up, yes, so I admire you 453 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,280 with the handwritten notes. I try to respond. It's really hard because I 454 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:15,079 get so many, and I try. I'll call customers, I'll try to 455 00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:21,000 write emails back. Yeah, I try, and I know it's yeah, 456 00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:25,079 hundreds, it's a lot. Yeah it's and then so yeah, yeah, 457 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:29,679 right it is. I wanted to ask you and give you a second to 458 00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:34,039 think about this the medical system and what you learn in this and what the 459 00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:37,079 takeaway is from that, because you think of team. You know, you 460 00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:40,360 should have a care team when you go into the hospital. You should have 461 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:45,800 a care team for yourself. I use a product that has absolutely taken me 462 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,559 off of Profram that I have to tell you. I don't know if you've 463 00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:52,079 heard me say this. I had been eating. I've been eating. This 464 00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:55,800 will freak you out. As a physician's assistant, I was eating four iyboprofen 465 00:34:55,840 --> 00:35:00,159 at night and often four in the morning. It's nuts, right, and 466 00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:02,320 this I show you my liver that made it through it. I for got 467 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:07,920 it screening normal. But then I look into the camera. I talk about 468 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,280 how big Farmer's not your friend. And I had to come to this this 469 00:35:10,519 --> 00:35:14,519 podcast now me and apologize. I have been telling you this. I've been 470 00:35:14,559 --> 00:35:19,079 snacking an iyberprofin when they came to me with Native Path krill and I will 471 00:35:19,159 --> 00:35:22,639 never forget the conversation. I wanted to love the company, and I do. 472 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,599 I'm drinking Native Path hydrate because I've had four of these cups of coffee 473 00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:30,199 this morning. Bone Frog and they said Omega three is like, oh, 474 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,880 guys, please don't come to me with the Omega three thing. I hear 475 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:37,280 this all over the place. It doesn't work. I eat fish almost exclusively. 476 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,360 It's not going to happen for me. And Jen said, please try 477 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,760 it. They're a great company. I think you love the founders tried the 478 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:49,639 products and two three days in I did not need ibaprofen. And that was 479 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,519 this pause. I got the team back on the phone and they had to 480 00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:54,280 think, this guy's an idiot. He's a moron. We just talked to 481 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:58,519 him four days earlier. Went back to repeat everything you've said. I don't 482 00:35:58,519 --> 00:36:02,360 think I was listening. Okay. So it's more absorbable than fish omega three. 483 00:36:02,599 --> 00:36:07,000 It is crustacean based, it is more potent in that way, better 484 00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:12,440 return on this. It's sixty percent more absorbable than vitamin C for helping with 485 00:36:12,559 --> 00:36:16,320 immune system issues and all the risk factors for iberprof and your livery, your 486 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:22,519 kidneys, your brain. So I am so glad to say I'm iboprofin free. 487 00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:25,719 You can be as well. And inflammation is a huge thing. It's 488 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,760 sugar based. You can also cut out the sugar. I'm telling you a 489 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,159 lot of information comes from sugar. I don't eat sugar. Cle it well. 490 00:36:32,639 --> 00:36:37,920 Usually ninety nine percent of the time go to nativepathcrill dot com, slash 491 00:36:38,039 --> 00:36:42,440 todd toss the iboprofen, get this, buy a bunch of it, and 492 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,400 the more you buy, the more money you save. And plusco see what 493 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,679 free gifts are offering now. Nativepathcrill dot com Sash Todd, Okay, I'm 494 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,920 totally in on that, Cald Okay sold. Yeah right, my body's a 495 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,239 car wreck after twenty five years in the Seal Teams, I'm in Okay, 496 00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,159 all right, So that one he's in a nativepathcrill dot com Sash. I 497 00:37:00,199 --> 00:37:01,079 think I have some here, but let's set you off with that top. 498 00:37:01,119 --> 00:37:05,480 You need to buy some of that. Yeah, gosh, you guys put 499 00:37:05,519 --> 00:37:10,719 your body tough. Heck or hell? What did you learn positively and negatively 500 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,719 about the medical system of which you were apart from most of you your career 501 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,800 as a physicians. Yeah, so you know, I've worked in the medical 502 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,199 system for over thirty years, both as a combat medic with the Seal Teams 503 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,239 and then becoming you know, the Navy trained me as a PA to further 504 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:37,840 my knowledge and help the team, and so medical knowledge one thing. It's 505 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:44,880 a unique situation being a medical provider and a caregiver, and you see behind 506 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:52,519 the curtain in different ways. I'm really frustrated in what I saw, and 507 00:37:52,679 --> 00:37:57,400 I think a lot of my colleagues have seen the same things. And I've 508 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:02,000 talked on other podcasts about the healthcare system and how frustrating it is. And 509 00:38:02,119 --> 00:38:07,679 I think, just like we're seeing the loss of courtesy and manners and all 510 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:14,719 that kind of stuff. COVID was an eye opener for everybody on the healthcare 511 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,719 system and that in a lot of cases, they're not out there to help 512 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,559 us the people. They're out there to help themselves. They've got their hands 513 00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:30,519 out and it's all about making money. And I think in cancer care it's 514 00:38:30,559 --> 00:38:38,199 about money. It's not really about helping patients. I think the doctors are 515 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:45,519 well meaning, but they're pushing chemo and radiation and things like that that are 516 00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:54,119 not helping patients. Liz died because of complications from Western medicine treatments. That 517 00:38:54,360 --> 00:39:00,159 I think is the hardest thing of all of this to swallow is that we 518 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:06,760 trusted the system and the system is not set up to help us. Yeah. 519 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:12,000 I've heard from so many people in the wake of the COVID lockdowns and 520 00:39:12,559 --> 00:39:15,039 the nonsense of that and the masks, and you know, I've interviewed families 521 00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:20,440 that I contend well. In fact, it's not just me. These court 522 00:39:20,519 --> 00:39:25,760 cases have been allowed to move forward. One is an abuse case death by 523 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,039 abuse. It's a civil abuse case. It couldn't do criminal. But this 524 00:39:30,119 --> 00:39:35,719 has been allowed to proceed into a jury trial. This is with the remdems 525 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:37,960 of vere and the force venting of people. So I've heard from a lot 526 00:39:38,039 --> 00:39:44,440 of people that the system is not helping, the system is harming. But 527 00:39:44,599 --> 00:39:49,440 then I went to Mexico and I was with two Richard Jacobi, who wrote 528 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,199 Sugar Crush. We're talking about sugar and information doctor John Fiegler. I'm gonna 529 00:39:52,199 --> 00:39:54,639 have both these guys in the show. John did the first ever stem cell 530 00:39:54,719 --> 00:40:01,760 transplants in nineteen seventy. Both these guys told me that when refined sugar came 531 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:07,400 on the market, doctors begged the government. Don't do this, Yeah, 532 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,440 do not release this stuff. It's poison. They said the same thing about 533 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:15,400 the lobotomies. They said the same thing about so many of these moves. 534 00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:20,719 And these guys have left the insurance based world to operate so that they can 535 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,920 care for patients according to the hippocratic oath, to hear you say it from 536 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:28,920 a perspective of a provider and then a greeting husband. I mean, it 537 00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:36,880 just puts a bow on this. What should happen like what should occur in 538 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,599 our system. First of all, trust, but verify, do your research. 539 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,519 It's on you, and I tell people all the time, when you 540 00:40:44,599 --> 00:40:47,159 go see the doctor, they're going to spend fifteen minutes with you, They're 541 00:40:47,159 --> 00:40:51,400 going to go through things really quickly, and then they're onto the next patient. 542 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,920 So it's on you for your own healthcare. You got to research. 543 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,840 You got to make sure that what they're prescribing is correct. It was a 544 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:05,719 constant battleste on top of everything that they were treating Liz with. That's the 545 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,559 first thing. Stay on top of it. I research hours and hours every 546 00:41:08,639 --> 00:41:13,039 day about different things. When we look at our health and what they're putting 547 00:41:13,039 --> 00:41:19,199 into our food alone, the different additives and stuff like that. There's over 548 00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:25,159 forty different additives that they're putting into our food supply that are illegal in Europe 549 00:41:25,199 --> 00:41:28,639 and the rest of the world, and you got to wonder why they're doing 550 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,199 that. Then the pesticides that they're doing, we talked about it a little 551 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:36,920 bit over the weekend, that they're adding things that are lowering men's testosterone. 552 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:42,360 Yep, corn and strawberries specifically, there's certain pesticides you can't get them off 553 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,599 and then that leads to other problems with guys testosterone going down as the age 554 00:41:46,639 --> 00:41:50,320 and things like that. And I could go on and on and on about 555 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,599 that, but it's on us to research and figure it out. And there's 556 00:41:53,639 --> 00:41:59,559 so much conflicting information on the Internet and all that it takes time talking to 557 00:41:59,639 --> 00:42:05,760 each other and verifying. And there's these patterns tim where they don't want to 558 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,519 see the red meat which produces testosterone. There was this whole effort they made 559 00:42:09,559 --> 00:42:13,800 during the COVID lockdowns to say that being in the gym is white supremacy, 560 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:20,000 that that that weightlifting is white supremacy. There's these articles that the more time 561 00:42:20,039 --> 00:42:22,960 you spend in the gym, the more like you are to have a heart 562 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:28,960 attack, that weightlifting is toxic masculinity. And then I hear about these additives 563 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,960 that are reducing testosterone. Same groups of people who want us to have a 564 00:42:31,039 --> 00:42:37,280 lower population, I don't think they want strong men. We can go way 565 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:38,760 down this rabbit hole, I know. I mean, we don't need to, 566 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,159 but we could. But I think the listeners get it because they're being 567 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:49,400 bombarded with messaging like this. Yeah, and we're seeing the results of what's 568 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,840 happening out there because of it. When we continue to know, I want 569 00:42:53,840 --> 00:43:01,800 to chat with you about family as team and and how you could help folks 570 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:07,119 who are starting families structure the team that you've done in your family, How 571 00:43:07,159 --> 00:43:12,400 you did that, and it's the fruits I see the family stepping in. 572 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,880 Liz has passed on. We all know that she's with the Lord Jesus. 573 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,800 Anybody who knew her, she knows she's told with the Lord Jesus. But 574 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,599 I want to go back to team and then wrap this up with just another 575 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:29,519 loop back around to how being a seal has prepared you for what's next and 576 00:43:30,039 --> 00:43:31,920 you set the team up, the family up as a team inspired by what 577 00:43:32,039 --> 00:43:36,559 you learned in the seals, and give us just some quick elements and what 578 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,280 that's involved is at family meetings? Is it a motto? How do you 579 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:44,960 do team as a family. So in the beginning, it started out a 580 00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:51,960 lot different when the kids are young versus what they are now. So we 581 00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:58,440 started from day one in how we took care of them. It's building a 582 00:43:58,519 --> 00:44:02,199 foundation, building trust, knowing that we as their parents, have their back, 583 00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:08,119 and talking about the process. You know, we would do room inspections 584 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:13,000 with them, you know, and just kind of get them into the thought 585 00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:15,719 process of doing those kind of things. We would have team meetings down in 586 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:20,320 the family room where we would all sit and talk about it could be any 587 00:44:20,519 --> 00:44:24,880 random topic, but allowing them to have a voice and being interactive in their 588 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,719 lives, constantly reading to them every night, being there at their schools, 589 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,840 being at every event that they did, because they need to know that you're 590 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,639 present, that you're part of their lives, that it's not just lip service 591 00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:42,559 that they kids will read right through you. You know, if it's fake, 592 00:44:43,079 --> 00:44:46,000 they know it. And so you've got to be there and be a 593 00:44:46,119 --> 00:44:50,760 part of everything. And as they get older, then you start expanding their 594 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,679 roles and responsibilities. But the mindset is that you're all back to back, 595 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:58,239 that you have each other's back, and if something happens, you're going to 596 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:04,079 be there for them and getting them to be vocal and getting them to look 597 00:45:04,119 --> 00:45:07,760 out for their siblings. They're looking out for us just as much as we're 598 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:13,599 looking out for them. And they're incredible kids and they've grown up into kind, 599 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:22,000 responsible kids that have manners and you know, our productive members of society 600 00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:27,239 and God is mixed in there. You go to church, but you got 601 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,480 to want to go to church, You got to want to have God in 602 00:45:29,559 --> 00:45:34,840 your life. And so we talk about that and and Liz, you know, 603 00:45:35,639 --> 00:45:37,760 do our Bible study and come home and talk to the kids about it 604 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:44,719 and all that stuff. It's it's a process, and God's so central to 605 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,320 who you are. God Country Team, and I'm thinking about team, and 606 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:52,159 you told us that you guys take a pledge something happens to you on the 607 00:45:52,199 --> 00:45:54,719 battlefield, we're going to make sure that your family's taken care of. And 608 00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:00,400 I'm going to bet that you're hearing from teammates from all over the world in 609 00:46:00,519 --> 00:46:04,639 this period of time, so that all the time it's more of a pledge 610 00:46:04,679 --> 00:46:10,360 amongst ourselves where we were to play that did it's an understanding that if something 611 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,960 happens to you, we're gonna we got you, We'll take care of the 612 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,960 family and that kind of stuff. And it gives you peace of mind to 613 00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:22,559 go do your job and not worry what's going to happen to your family something. 614 00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:30,239 Is it extending into emotional support now from your teammates, Yes, yeah, 615 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,119 absolutely, yea. And what I noticed about you is when we went 616 00:46:34,159 --> 00:46:37,239 to well, many things, but when I had the honor to eat dinner 617 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,480 with you and to share with you and shoot with you. You already picked 618 00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:44,880 up like three new missions. You told me I got to clean this up, 619 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,280 this up, and this up. And I know that you're still processing 620 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,199 the grief, and we're going to pray for you. And I want this 621 00:46:50,519 --> 00:46:55,119 podcast family to pray for Tim's continuing grief process, that God gives him what 622 00:46:55,199 --> 00:47:00,000 he needs, that the Lord gently takes him by the hand and goes through 623 00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:05,480 this pain with him, with his family, lifts it from Tim when it's 624 00:47:05,559 --> 00:47:07,719 time, sits with him while it's not time. There is a time to 625 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:14,679 grieve. But I was so honored Tim to see you already mentioning like I've 626 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,119 got to put these things together and put these things together. Let's not leave 627 00:47:17,159 --> 00:47:21,440 God out of that. That He's going to put you back together in a 628 00:47:21,559 --> 00:47:23,360 way, new way, in a new way. But man, he loves 629 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:28,159 you so much and he's a god who sees can I dovetail on that. 630 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:35,960 Yes, Liz was such a believer and knowing that you know she was saved 631 00:47:36,039 --> 00:47:38,599 by God, that that's where she was going to go. She was fearless 632 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:46,199 in the face of what she was going through. Even the kids talk about 633 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:52,960 this. She never wavered. She endured more than most people ever could, 634 00:47:52,599 --> 00:47:59,039 and she walked the walk. She didn't talk about anything that she was doing. 635 00:47:59,199 --> 00:48:04,599 She just did it it, just did it and kept going. She 636 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:09,599 kept going. And it's it's inspirational. So I picked the right wife, 637 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:15,840 right man. I was not worthy, not even for a second. Yeah. 638 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,320 I love that you say that, and I know that you mean it, 639 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:22,840 and even so kind with your time and working through this. And thank 640 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:27,199 you for having an honor to support the brand, to drink the coffee. 641 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,360 Thank you for telling the stories of your teammates, and thank you for being 642 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:31,719 a friend. I value you and I love you. Thank you, Thanks 643 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,320 for having me. This is a Todd Herman Shaw. Please go, be 644 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,159 well, be strong, be kind, and please make every effort to walk 645 00:48:38,519 --> 00:48:39,360 in the light of Christ.