The honor of having in cdo with me dear friend Tim Krukshank, founder of
Bone Frog Coffee and Friends, and man who's recently been through a horrible loss.
I also had the honor of hanging out with him and sharing each other's
challenges this weekend with three other Christian men or two other Christian men together,
Tim and I we're gonna work into talking about this loss. But we're going
to start by talking about a T shirt Tim's wearing that says something notable about
the Navy Seals, and frankly, I'm going to seek his inputs on this
madness I've done to myself of agreeing to go to seal Fit and already's committing
the money and we'll talk about this. Plus, dealing with grief is a
strong man. It's hard. It's an expiration process for a lot of people,
and I think strong men need to hear from a very strong man and
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And what an honor to sit next to my dear friend Tim Krukshank in
studio. You guys have heard him, seen pictures, but first time most
people have seen you on video. So good to have you in the High
Mountains of Free America. Thank you man, It's pretty cool to be here.
Thanks for having me. Todd. What do you think about it?
It's you know, driving over from Washington, it's like when you come across
the border, you're it's like you're entering America. I was joking that with
my brothers. I'm like, you know, as you go across the border,
there should be you know, a border check and fireworks and all kinds
of stuff. You know, It's it's pretty cool. How do you find
the people? Oh god, it's amazing. Everybody we've met has been kind
and thoughtful and friendly and neighborly. And it's like going back in time the
way it used to be. Yeah, and you don't feel that in the
Seattle area. No, it's pretty it's pretty nice over here. Yeah,
there's a coldness. I think it's interesting because the Sattle area prides itself on
being they're the kind ones of the talnrant ones. It's almost cliched to point
that out, but they they're They're the ones who spend all the money to
help the homeless, and they're the ones who are voting for all these these
policies that are supposed to be very kind, and yet at the heart of
the city there really is a coldness and decision to look the other way.
And I know that's kind of the cases in big cities, but it's has
it been recent that you've noticed that over there, that that heart has changed
or like yeah, And I'm not saying that there aren't kind people, because
there still are some over there, but I think they're all starting to move
over here. Last time I was here and I went to church, I
met all kinds of people that I know. I'm like, oh my god,
you've moved over here. But yeah, you're starting to see that slip
away. And it's kind of sad. Neighbors aren't talking to each other anymore,
and people have lost their their manners. You know, you go to
Costco, you go to the stores, and they're remn you with their carts
and nobody says excuse me anymore, or open the stores for each other.
It's just it's weird to see that all starting to go away because it's what
we had growing up. Where'd you get your manners? My parents, my
parents. My dad was a marine and my mom was a stay at home
mom, And you know, they raised us the way I think all of
our neighbor kids are raised to be courteous and kind. And the neighbor's parents
policed us as well. You know, if you messed up over at their
house, there anya as well, and they'd call your parents. And this
is just the way it was back then, right. You know, there
is a closeness that can be created through courtesy because you are being reflexively kind.
And I was in the show earlier this week talking about Blessed are the
merciful, for they will receive mercy, Yeah right, and showing that.
And I've told the story before us. I won't make a long version of
it. But when we moved over here, my wife had taken care of
the closing of the house and the last details she drove over during a snowstorm,
and my daughter and I were already here and we've got the house sort
of set up, and we split duties that way. She dropped by this
store before she drove home. Walking out of the store, the grocery bags
broke and she built spilled groceries all over the sidewalk, and a woman in
her eighties stopped and said, honey, let me help you pick this up.
Let me help you, and my wife said no, no, no,
ma'am, it's cold, because no, let me help you. And
then a big dude in a big truck, high rise truck stop. Women,
you ladies getting in your cars, it's cold in here. I'll pick
this up. Where do you want this? Man? Good, it's good.
And my wife drove home in tears because her view of her experience of
seatow would have been get the hell out of the way. Where are you
blocking? People? Picked that up? Yeah? Where's that coming from?
Man? I don't know. I don't know, but we all need to
try to make the difference. And I think they were talking at church about
you know, we wait for those kind of things to happen like they used
to happen. Yeah, but to not wait anymore. We need to be
the change and step up and make sure that we are setting the example and
getting out of our cars and helping people ladies with strollers and people that are
dropping things or whatever. Just be courteous and kind. When you come to
a place like this in Idaho and everybody is nice and friendly to you,
it changes your demeanor and who you are. You're happier, you want to
be friendlier. And we can make that change over on the other side of
the mountains too. We just we just got to do it. Yeah,
well, we can make the change around the country and around the world.
And look, I failed on this front of being the guy to reach out.
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and I feel shamed that didn't go to him and just take over.
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It says on it the deed is all US Navy seals. So I have
one of the backs as the deed is all, but it says a little
bit more. We're both wearing bone frog shirts. What does that mean?
So ed buyers who received the Medal of Honor during his ceremony use this saying,
and it's a saying from somebody else. The deed is all, not
the glory. And the younger guys took it and put it above the platoon
huts as a reminder that we all, regardless of what it is, do
our job, not seeking attention or glory for what we do, but just
doing our job. I made some T shirts like the one you're wearing that
has the whole saying on the back of it. But then I decided to
shorten it a little bit just to the deed is all, because I think
it has a lot of meaning for different people. And it doesn't have to
be you know, you're a Navy seal and you're going and doing your job,
and that. It could be the stay at home mom doing her job.
It could be the dad that's going out and working two jobs to provide
for his family. It could be anything. And I use it kind of
like the old saying, just do it, but I think this has a
much deeper meaning. It's one of our most popular shirts because everybody's got something
in their lives that they're doing and we should be doing. And we learned
about that in church yesterday, that we should be doing these things for the
right reasons and not seeking attention. God knows what we're doing and that's all
that matters. Are you bothered at all by the attention that the teams gets
and people who market their you know, the job of seals into fame or
leverage. That does that bother you at all? I don't know. I
think you know, partly guys are using that too, as long as we're
doing it in the right way right, not seeking attention for ourselves, but
using it to help other people. So I think it's kind of a double
edged sword. But I think in the end, you know, we are
supposed to be silent warriors. We're supposed to do this job without seeking the
attention and just do your job. Bone Frogs are respectful God Country team on
the coffee bags and obviously ten percent of proceeds go to the Navy Seal Foundation,
so you don't hide the fact that you're a seal obviously, but you
all start coming out and saying, I Tim did these great things, and
here are the deeds I created. It's not about me, not about me,
It's about one The whole reason I created the company was to honor my
teammates. That's it, and you know, for people to learn about them
so they didn't die in vain. Keep saying their names, tell the stories.
And we make a promise to each other that if something happens to you,
your wife and kids will be taking care of for the rest of their
lives. And that's why we back to help the community, which is like
a family for all of us. You know, it's important to me.
That's an expressed promise. You guys make each other that's cool. Yeah,
that's really cool. Tell me about a teammate comes to mind. The first,
the first guy that was close to me that I lost was Neil Roberts
in the beginning of the war, and the story of Neil and what he
did, and I'll give you a brief synopsis of this because most people won't
get this. In the beginning of the war in Afghanistan, Neil was in
the back of a helicopter. He wasn't strapped in, but you know,
he was leaning out the back and looking at troops on the ground and trying
to gather some intel. They got hit by an RPG and that hit caused
the helicopter to shift suddenly and he fell out the back, fell out the
back. Now, from what reports have told us, in drone footage has
shown there was over two hundred Taliban advancing on him. What would most people
do, right, You'd run, But Neil didn't. He engaged the enemy
by himself with his primary until he ran out of bullets, eliminating a lot
of them, went to his secondary and kept advancing on them in the wide
open, in the wide open, with no cover, until he ran out
of bullets with his secondary. They overran him, and later the guys found
his body in its gear and went and eliminated the rest of this taliban.
But that's the mindset. Those are the stories that we want to tell these
guys in their heroic acts. And he didn't do it to be a hero.
He did it because of who he was as a human being, and
that's how he was trained. And he didn't think twice about doing it.
And I could tell you story after story after story like that. And it
was guys like Neil that you know, when I retired, I had lost
so many friends that I had to tell their stories. And that's what Bone
Frog is all about. Keith Kamura created the Bone Frog and it became this
iconic symbol and the seal teams that represented all those guys that lost their lives.
I think, if I'm not mistaken, before I put the money down
to go do Seal Fit, which is in Tohno outside of Coronado, and
Mark Devine runs this, you know, yeah, all of Mark. If
you don't know Mark, and I think I called you and said, would
you be okay if I did this? Because I'm desperately aware that people go
play soldier and I don't have you You went shooting me with this weekend out
the capacity play a soldier, but you you said it was okay. Yeah,
right, Yeah. Mark's put on a really great program out there.
Yeah. And it's it's not playing soldier really, it's it's finding something within
yourself. It's really what it's about. Yeah, for some guys, it's
maybe training to get ready, the younger guys, but for a lot of
guys that he has there, maybe it's team building they're looking for. Maybe
it's finding something within yourself you didn't know you had, or confidence building or
whatever it is. I think it's a great program set up there are because
we get cohorts that you get in meetings with before you go. I'm going
to be one of the oldest guys. And I asked you the other day
a question, what's the trick you guys had to wear these utility pants and
these boots and it's hot, And I said, what's the trick for staying
cool? You said, the most comforting thing, even what you told me.
Yeah, there's not no no trick, no tricks. It's just hot.
You just have to deal with that. Yeah. Yeah, I went
and did a workout yesterday where I purposely got in kit and ran this five
k uh and that heat is such a separator and ninety one degrees, you
know, by the time I run down to the lake and then back up
to my house. I'm I'm I'm really wondering if that's if all the things
I worry about, I mean, getting hurt, that's a likelihood I will
get hurt. I just hope it don't get injured. I will obviously get
hurt. But what was your Did you have a concern when you went to
buds, which you know, my thing is a tiny little pursis Was it
heat? Was it exhaustion? Was it did you have any concerns? No?
And I joke with my friends that I think when we were young like
that, yeah, you feel invincible, right, So I didn't even think
about it. Okay, honestly, I didn't even think about it. Okay,
I've done a twelve hour workout, I've done a sixteen hour workout.
Those things were done in the cool. I completely aired in this, like
help me here, So going into what I went into back then, there
wasn't a lot of information out there. There was more information, and I
think it was you know, it's hearsay and myth and hear all these things,
and you didn't really know what to expect unless you knew somebody who had
gone through it and they could give you information. So you heard a lot
of things, a lot of rumors, a lot of stuff, but you
didn't know until you got there. So you're not gonna tell me. You
tried to get ready the best you could. And I'm not nervous, but
I'm become uneasy with the weather factor because I don't know how I train to
be a ninety one degree weather every single day, twelve hours a day,
and I'm not going to do that because that would be overtraining, like well,
you know, unless you live somewhere that's like that constantly. I think,
you know, going into it everyding, Oh you got to immerse yourself
in ice water in a bathtub and you got to you know, prep yourself
like that. It doesn't help you get there. And it's still cold and
it's still okay, and it's still you figure it out as you're going through
it, all right, that's part of the problem. Well, I've made
the decision that there is I don't want to go in there in a I'm
going to get through this mentality. I've made the decision. I'm want to
go and thrive and I unscrive and go and learn. It's a learning process.
Yeah, And I want to seek a moment where as an old man
I can be helpful to the team. I deeply. My biggest worry in
this is that if I'm seven young guys, oh great, we get grandpa
right that I want to find some way that Grandpa brings something to the table,
because dang it, I don't want to screw up my cohort. Right.
That's you're not okay, You're going to be fine. So Tim tell
us about another teammate, Brian Bill. Brian Bill was a dev group part
of Extortion one seven. It's one of our bags and it's meant solely to
honor everyone that lost their lives in that mission. That off has a lot
of question marks. It was the largest loss of life in so Common history.
And yes, there are question marks. And that's a whole other thing.
His parents do a fundraiser, a big foundation dinner, a golf tournament
every year in June up in Connecticut. I went to the one two years
ago. I couldn't make it this share because of everything that we had gone
on. But take a look at the Brian Bill Foundation and what they're doing
up in Connecticut and honor all those brave American souls that sacrifice their lives.
It's truly, truly an amazing story in those guys. Okay, check out
the foundation, Brian Burill Foundation. Right. Put a link in the show
to the Brian Bill Foundation. The reason that there's myth that has grown up
around you guys, I think I think the reason is the range of things
you can do and then stories like that, and it's it's I know that
that you don't have to be a seal to do that for someone you serve
with. But I think it's a small team thing. I think it's the
six to eight guys. I think that we can all understand, like,
well, you're really part of a small unit. Like when you guys are
deployed together. Is there anything you don't end up knowing about each other?
No? No, because you you go through training that's somewhat of a you
know, a crucible so to speak. You know, so you at a
baseline, you've all been through this same pain and suffering, you know what
I mean. So you're all brought together in a team room, and then
you get to know each other, and we train together so closely, and
you get to know each other. I was talking to a friend recently about
you know, in the dark, I can tell you who's you know manning
at the time, the sixty now the two forty by the sound and rhythm
of how they shoot. Wow, you can tell a guy who it is
and how they walk and you hear their footsteps. We were able in a
lot of cases to function without talking with just hand signals. And even then
we're operating at such a high level when we move through areas that we operate
by second nature because our training takes over. We know each other better than
we know anybody. And that's why we're so close in such a brotherhood and
willing to give our lives for each other because you know, yeah, we
love each other. Yeah, yeah. I wanted to ask you and give
you a second to think about this of when you lose a teammate you mentioned
Neil. You guys don't really I think I've heard you say this. You
don't really have time on the battlefield to process what just happened. I mean,
you're aware of it, that happens in some ways. I guess you
have the advantage of now you can go out on and op and take out
the people who took out your friend, which is your job, and it's
not going to happen in another seal. And I don't know because I've never
served, but to me that would be a little bit cathartic. We went
took care of the guys who ended our friend's life, all right. I
wanted to talk to you about processing grief on the battlefield afterwards, when you
guys do that and then transition into I think the biggest grief you've ever faced.
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code Todd three. When you lose a guy like Michael, you lose a
teammate like Neil, do you guys you can't process? I think on the
battlefield. I think you've told me that. When do you process that?
It's a good question. Yeah, in the beginning of the war and for
a long time you just did it on your own. Figure out a way
to do that. You know, they train you to do a job,
but the back end part of it was lacking a little bit. They then
created a place for us coming out of country to go and download for a
couple of weeks decompress prior to coming back home. And then there's a lot
of things that are set up back here in the States to deal with it.
But I think it's still something that we can do a lot better job
at. So there's not like a there's not a ceremony when this happens overseas.
You don't get to get into the team room, drink whiskey, do
something. I had a toast to a buddy, recognize anything like that.
Yeah there is. Yeah, you don't need to talk about it, Yeah
there is. Yeah, it's I don't know how much that helps. Yeah,
you know, yeah, yeah, I think you know. When my
dad died, we had that ceremony that he prescribed for us. You will
go a ton of pizza, you eat a bunch of hamburgers, you get
drink beer, drink soda. My dad liked food, and so we had
the occasion to go do that as a family, and that was a ritual
that he and I have at that time. And you are right now going
through tremendous grief, and I feel your brother getting tense in this, and
I want you to know that you're loved and we love you, and what
happens happens, and if you don't want to talk about it, you say
end and we'll end Okay, I will try, Okay. I know we've
been honored this podcast family at give sango dot com slash help our tim A
lot of people here donated now in excess of fifty thousand bucks and outside of
this audience too. It's not just the podcast family, but it started here.
And the notes that I see people leaving to a man they've never met
because they've heard about Liz. First of all, I just wanted you to
have an occasion to say something to these guys if you want to. That
I'm really grateful for because there are people that have reached out to me by
text and email and handwritten letters and stopped by the shop and talk to me.
And I can't even thank all of you enough for taking the time to
do that having never met me. I am so grateful for that, and
it's a reminder of the quality of people that are out there, your listeners.
Thank you. And I I know that I'm not the only one going
through pain and suffering. It happens to people every single day, and that's
you know why, I'm so grateful to all of you for you know,
reaching out to me. Thank you. E've been a physicians assistant in the
world you were I was. When I say medic on the seal teams,
people yell at me a Corman, people yell at me for calling you medical.
I've heard you say medic You saw death, you saw families go through
this. When you look at the process you're going through now, and you
just recognize conye that this happens every day to human beings. What's been most
surprising for you? You lost Liz now, gosh was a month ago.
Three weeks ago? Yeah, May twenty second, May twenty second, and
I had the memorial service July first. What's been most surprising for you,
Tim about the process? Now that you've seen people go through it. You've
watched other people as a physician's assistant, you've seen death. What surprised you
about your experiences now you've lost your wife. I'm not sure I understand the
question completely as far as the medical part, as far as the grieving part.
Yeah, I mean, I want to talk about medicine and the medical
part. But I guess the question is this, let me have both done
to this. You've seen death in the battlefield, you've seen it in hospitals,
You've been there when you said goodbye to your wife, and you were
holding her hand, and you made this heroic trip to go see your daughter
graduate. Is there any part of your motion response, any part of your
cognitive response that surprised you. No? No, Yeah, I'm glad to
hear you say that. No. You know why I'm glad to hear you
say that. It is because it shows this connection you've had to your patients
and your teammates, and that this didn't surprise you. But it's magnified.
It's magnified. Let's take a breath and have you tell me about Liz,
the Liz we some of us got to meet only rarely. But tell us
about Liz the human being, the mom, the seventeen moves and standing by
your kids and the teacher, and how she inspired people when we first met.
And I apologize if I cry, you have permission to cry. You
have permission to cry. These people love you. I love you. If
it's too soon, we'll back off. I want to talk about her,
talk about it. So when we first met, there was an immediate connection
and we just never stopped talking, and we made a very conscious effort to
raise our family like what we had in the Seal teams as a team,
and so she would sign her her emails co founder Team Crukshank. But it
was a mindset that we as a family were back to back right. Each
person was a valuable member of the team, and their voices were heard,
and so there was buy in. And I think a lot of people they
don't give their kids the opportunity to speak up right, it's the parents only,
it's my way or the highway, and we gave our kids that.
She was a force of nature. She was loving and kind, and she
sacrificed everything for the team, for the family, her career, her sanity.
You know, she was a stay at home mom, and when something
happened with kids at school, she's fierce and she protected them with everything that
she had. And you know, people that watched the service saw what our
kids had to say about her, and it was you know, when it
came down to her being ill, having a team member go down, someone
that we loved and adored. I put every ounce of energy into helping her
because that's what she would do for me. Yea, And honestly, it
was an honor to stand by her side, hold her hand through arguably one
of the most difficult times of all of our lives. She deployed you,
Bro, she deployed you. Do you mind if I tell that story because
it might be hard for you. If we don't want to, I'll hold
back. Okay, hold back. Let's not talk about that right now.
Okay, got it. Tell me about the kids, man, your kids
rock stars, superstars and like that team thing. What does that mean?
Like that they grew up with God Country team? Like I saw someone sent
me a note, Bro, someone sent me a note. They got your
coffee and it was signed by one of your daughters. And you already said
in Twitter, goes, I'm keeping this one. And he's a subscriber,
Like dude, I got a note from Tim's daughter, Yeah, signing that.
That was huge. So the reason we do the notes it goes back
to just and we talked about this the beginning of the show. It's how
you're raised, right my mom, get on us. You know, if
somebody sent you something or something, I she write them a note to say
thank you. And it's the same way running a business. I think people
will get I don't know what the word is. Things have become so corporate,
right, and they want to know that they're supporting a family that is
not it's family running it and the values that it supports, and to me,
it's important. From day one, we wrote thank you notes to people
and we try to vary them up a little bit. But you know,
all the kids work at the business, and we even you know, before
the service, Liz's mom was there and she was we call her Grandma bon
Bon. Her name is Bonnie Bond, So she was signing notes Grandma bon
Bon thank you, and you know, so she even she was in there
helping out and she loved it. It was great. But that's that's what
the company is all about. We're grateful for all of our customers and supporting
us, and we try to make that known the best that we can.
Yeah, you know, making it through today. Yeah, I get in
guilt spirals because you and I have different jobs. And part of my job
here is this isn't a day where I will be on Mike for five hours.
And this feeds me because I'm here with a friend and I'm getting to
look you in the eye and share things with you. Oftentimes it's just me
pouring into this and I try to not filter things. I try to be
who I am on the show, and I'm blessed by these emails people send
me, and they're long tim they're five to six paragraphs, and people pouring
hearts out to me. And at the end of a five hour recording session,
it's really difficult for me to have the emotional reserve to give a note
like that the honor at Desert, Yes, which is a five a five
paragraph response, and just to write back and say hey, I got your
notes, thank you, God bless you feels worse than not responding sometimes.
So I get these emails that build up, yes, so I admire you
with the handwritten notes. I try to respond. It's really hard because I
get so many, and I try. I'll call customers, I'll try to
write emails back. Yeah, I try, and I know it's yeah,
hundreds, it's a lot. Yeah it's and then so yeah, yeah,
right it is. I wanted to ask you and give you a second to
think about this the medical system and what you learn in this and what the
takeaway is from that, because you think of team. You know, you
should have a care team when you go into the hospital. You should have
a care team for yourself. I use a product that has absolutely taken me
off of Profram that I have to tell you. I don't know if you've
heard me say this. I had been eating. I've been eating. This
will freak you out. As a physician's assistant, I was eating four iyboprofen
at night and often four in the morning. It's nuts, right, and
this I show you my liver that made it through it. I for got
it screening normal. But then I look into the camera. I talk about
how big Farmer's not your friend. And I had to come to this this
podcast now me and apologize. I have been telling you this. I've been
snacking an iyberprofin when they came to me with Native Path krill and I will
never forget the conversation. I wanted to love the company, and I do.
I'm drinking Native Path hydrate because I've had four of these cups of coffee
this morning. Bone Frog and they said Omega three is like, oh,
guys, please don't come to me with the Omega three thing. I hear
this all over the place. It doesn't work. I eat fish almost exclusively.
It's not going to happen for me. And Jen said, please try
it. They're a great company. I think you love the founders tried the
products and two three days in I did not need ibaprofen. And that was
this pause. I got the team back on the phone and they had to
think, this guy's an idiot. He's a moron. We just talked to
him four days earlier. Went back to repeat everything you've said. I don't
think I was listening. Okay. So it's more absorbable than fish omega three.
It is crustacean based, it is more potent in that way, better
return on this. It's sixty percent more absorbable than vitamin C for helping with
immune system issues and all the risk factors for iberprof and your livery, your
kidneys, your brain. So I am so glad to say I'm iboprofin free.
You can be as well. And inflammation is a huge thing. It's
sugar based. You can also cut out the sugar. I'm telling you a
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You need to buy some of that. Yeah, gosh, you guys put
your body tough. Heck or hell? What did you learn positively and negatively
about the medical system of which you were apart from most of you your career
as a physicians. Yeah, so you know, I've worked in the medical
system for over thirty years, both as a combat medic with the Seal Teams
and then becoming you know, the Navy trained me as a PA to further
my knowledge and help the team, and so medical knowledge one thing. It's
a unique situation being a medical provider and a caregiver, and you see behind
the curtain in different ways. I'm really frustrated in what I saw, and
I think a lot of my colleagues have seen the same things. And I've
talked on other podcasts about the healthcare system and how frustrating it is. And
I think, just like we're seeing the loss of courtesy and manners and all
that kind of stuff. COVID was an eye opener for everybody on the healthcare
system and that in a lot of cases, they're not out there to help
us the people. They're out there to help themselves. They've got their hands
out and it's all about making money. And I think in cancer care it's
about money. It's not really about helping patients. I think the doctors are
well meaning, but they're pushing chemo and radiation and things like that that are
not helping patients. Liz died because of complications from Western medicine treatments. That
I think is the hardest thing of all of this to swallow is that we
trusted the system and the system is not set up to help us. Yeah.
I've heard from so many people in the wake of the COVID lockdowns and
the nonsense of that and the masks, and you know, I've interviewed families
that I contend well. In fact, it's not just me. These court
cases have been allowed to move forward. One is an abuse case death by
abuse. It's a civil abuse case. It couldn't do criminal. But this
has been allowed to proceed into a jury trial. This is with the remdems
of vere and the force venting of people. So I've heard from a lot
of people that the system is not helping, the system is harming. But
then I went to Mexico and I was with two Richard Jacobi, who wrote
Sugar Crush. We're talking about sugar and information doctor John Fiegler. I'm gonna
have both these guys in the show. John did the first ever stem cell
transplants in nineteen seventy. Both these guys told me that when refined sugar came
on the market, doctors begged the government. Don't do this, Yeah,
do not release this stuff. It's poison. They said the same thing about
the lobotomies. They said the same thing about so many of these moves.
And these guys have left the insurance based world to operate so that they can
care for patients according to the hippocratic oath, to hear you say it from
a perspective of a provider and then a greeting husband. I mean, it
just puts a bow on this. What should happen like what should occur in
our system. First of all, trust, but verify, do your research.
It's on you, and I tell people all the time, when you
go see the doctor, they're going to spend fifteen minutes with you, They're
going to go through things really quickly, and then they're onto the next patient.
So it's on you for your own healthcare. You got to research.
You got to make sure that what they're prescribing is correct. It was a
constant battleste on top of everything that they were treating Liz with. That's the
first thing. Stay on top of it. I research hours and hours every
day about different things. When we look at our health and what they're putting
into our food alone, the different additives and stuff like that. There's over
forty different additives that they're putting into our food supply that are illegal in Europe
and the rest of the world, and you got to wonder why they're doing
that. Then the pesticides that they're doing, we talked about it a little
bit over the weekend, that they're adding things that are lowering men's testosterone.
Yep, corn and strawberries specifically, there's certain pesticides you can't get them off
and then that leads to other problems with guys testosterone going down as the age
and things like that. And I could go on and on and on about
that, but it's on us to research and figure it out. And there's
so much conflicting information on the Internet and all that it takes time talking to
each other and verifying. And there's these patterns tim where they don't want to
see the red meat which produces testosterone. There was this whole effort they made
during the COVID lockdowns to say that being in the gym is white supremacy,
that that that weightlifting is white supremacy. There's these articles that the more time
you spend in the gym, the more like you are to have a heart
attack, that weightlifting is toxic masculinity. And then I hear about these additives
that are reducing testosterone. Same groups of people who want us to have a
lower population, I don't think they want strong men. We can go way
down this rabbit hole, I know. I mean, we don't need to,
but we could. But I think the listeners get it because they're being
bombarded with messaging like this. Yeah, and we're seeing the results of what's
happening out there because of it. When we continue to know, I want
to chat with you about family as team and and how you could help folks
who are starting families structure the team that you've done in your family, How
you did that, and it's the fruits I see the family stepping in.
Liz has passed on. We all know that she's with the Lord Jesus.
Anybody who knew her, she knows she's told with the Lord Jesus. But
I want to go back to team and then wrap this up with just another
loop back around to how being a seal has prepared you for what's next and
you set the team up, the family up as a team inspired by what
you learned in the seals, and give us just some quick elements and what
that's involved is at family meetings? Is it a motto? How do you
do team as a family. So in the beginning, it started out a
lot different when the kids are young versus what they are now. So we
started from day one in how we took care of them. It's building a
foundation, building trust, knowing that we as their parents, have their back,
and talking about the process. You know, we would do room inspections
with them, you know, and just kind of get them into the thought
process of doing those kind of things. We would have team meetings down in
the family room where we would all sit and talk about it could be any
random topic, but allowing them to have a voice and being interactive in their
lives, constantly reading to them every night, being there at their schools,
being at every event that they did, because they need to know that you're
present, that you're part of their lives, that it's not just lip service
that they kids will read right through you. You know, if it's fake,
they know it. And so you've got to be there and be a
part of everything. And as they get older, then you start expanding their
roles and responsibilities. But the mindset is that you're all back to back,
that you have each other's back, and if something happens, you're going to
be there for them and getting them to be vocal and getting them to look
out for their siblings. They're looking out for us just as much as we're
looking out for them. And they're incredible kids and they've grown up into kind,
responsible kids that have manners and you know, our productive members of society
and God is mixed in there. You go to church, but you got
to want to go to church, You got to want to have God in
your life. And so we talk about that and and Liz, you know,
do our Bible study and come home and talk to the kids about it
and all that stuff. It's it's a process, and God's so central to
who you are. God Country Team, and I'm thinking about team, and
you told us that you guys take a pledge something happens to you on the
battlefield, we're going to make sure that your family's taken care of. And
I'm going to bet that you're hearing from teammates from all over the world in
this period of time, so that all the time it's more of a pledge
amongst ourselves where we were to play that did it's an understanding that if something
happens to you, we're gonna we got you, We'll take care of the
family and that kind of stuff. And it gives you peace of mind to
go do your job and not worry what's going to happen to your family something.
Is it extending into emotional support now from your teammates, Yes, yeah,
absolutely, yea. And what I noticed about you is when we went
to well, many things, but when I had the honor to eat dinner
with you and to share with you and shoot with you. You already picked
up like three new missions. You told me I got to clean this up,
this up, and this up. And I know that you're still processing
the grief, and we're going to pray for you. And I want this
podcast family to pray for Tim's continuing grief process, that God gives him what
he needs, that the Lord gently takes him by the hand and goes through
this pain with him, with his family, lifts it from Tim when it's
time, sits with him while it's not time. There is a time to
grieve. But I was so honored Tim to see you already mentioning like I've
got to put these things together and put these things together. Let's not leave
God out of that. That He's going to put you back together in a
way, new way, in a new way. But man, he loves
you so much and he's a god who sees can I dovetail on that.
Yes, Liz was such a believer and knowing that you know she was saved
by God, that that's where she was going to go. She was fearless
in the face of what she was going through. Even the kids talk about
this. She never wavered. She endured more than most people ever could,
and she walked the walk. She didn't talk about anything that she was doing.
She just did it it, just did it and kept going. She
kept going. And it's it's inspirational. So I picked the right wife,
right man. I was not worthy, not even for a second. Yeah.
I love that you say that, and I know that you mean it,
and even so kind with your time and working through this. And thank
you for having an honor to support the brand, to drink the coffee.
Thank you for telling the stories of your teammates, and thank you for being
a friend. I value you and I love you. Thank you, Thanks
for having me. This is a Todd Herman Shaw. Please go, be
well, be strong, be kind, and please make every effort to walk
in the light of Christ.