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It's my great pleasure to welcome back
to our podcast for another appearents that he's

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the one and only Jake Paul Jake, You're one of the few guys I

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get the interview who actually has two
fights on this schedule at the same time.

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But we'll talk about the reasons why
we'll get into this. Your first

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fight coming up, you're taking on
the bare knuckle star Mike Perry. You'll

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headline the pay per view July twentieth
on his own pay per view in Tampa,

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Farda. That, of course,
is the date you were supposed to

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fight Iron Mike Tyson coming out of
his long retirement to take you on in

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the fight at at and T Stadium. Obviously, you know he is sidelined

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because of his medical issue. You're
gonna fight Perry instead and look forward to

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rescheduling with Tyson in November. So
let's get into first of all, in

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terms of that fight with Mike Tyson, can you express me just the disappointment

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you had gone through the press tour. I've seen your training videos, I've

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seen them back and forth between you
and Tyson on your social media, and

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then the fight gets postponed for several
months because of his medical situation with his

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ulcer. Can you just talk about
your disappointment and having a change up the

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way you did. Yeah, Look, I mean it was definitely heart wrenching,

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and I felt so bad for everyone
on the undercart as well. And

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I knew how much of this meant
to me, and I was so focused

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on it. This was like my
one singular focus and then you have to

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like shift your mind set away from
that all of a sudden, and so

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it was a massive l But we
love to turn RL's into w's and that's

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what we're doing here with Mike Perry, keeping the train rolling, staying focused,

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staying in camp, staying you know, in the gym, getting that

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experience that I need because I started
boxing so much later than everyone, and

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so I need to stay ready and
stay fighting. How do you, though,

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avoid what would be, I guess, a natural come down if you

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will, in terms of motivation,
mentality. And again it's nothing against Mike

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Perry, but it's a big difference
going from Mike Tyson to Mike Perry,

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it seems, at least in terms
of your mentality. How do you avoid

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the pitfalls? Yeah, it was
definitely a for a couple of days there,

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But you have to realize that you
can't control a lot of what happens

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in life, and you just have
to roll with the punches, pun intended,

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and stay committed to your goals.
If you have true one commitment,

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then whatever happens doesn't matter because you're
just going to stay working towards the goal

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and committed to the goal. It's
like on fight week when I'm cutting weight

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and people a lot of fighters don't
like when people eat food in front of

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them while they're cutting weight, Like
someone will have Chick fil A and a

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lot of fighters get pissed off,
and it's like, why are you getting

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pissed off If you're not fully committed
to your goal and have the will power

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to know exactly what it is that
you're doing, that Chick fil A shouldn't

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even bother you. And this is
a another situation like that, Like this

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that doesn't bother me. I'm staying
focused on what I have to do.

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Well. It's interesting that you just
brought up the situation with cutting weight as

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you do, so I wanted to
ask about that you were going to fight

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Mike Tyson in a heavyweight fight.
In other words, whatever you were going

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to weigh presumably you know a little
bit over two hundred. He was certainly

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going to be over two hundred pounds, but this fight with Mike Perry is

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now a two hundred. I think
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Two hundred, so it's the cruiserweight
limit. So it's it's a little

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heavier than what you have been fighting
at in general, but you still have

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to make a weight Compared to the
Tyson fight, Is there any problems there

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because you look, you know,
you were talking about how you would put

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on some pounds and shown off your
new physique in the videos that you had

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posted, and that there is now
a change that it's a different weight class.

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Yeah. So you know, I
was getting up to like two thirty

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five and now back down in to
the two fifteens. And that's just part

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of the sport, you know,
managing the weight up and down, and

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when you know how to cut weight
and do it the right way, it's

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actually really easy. And so we'll
just shave the rest of that off over

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the next twenty something days. Now. In terms of Mike Perry, he's

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undefeated in bare knuckle Fighting Championship He's
five and zero three knockouts. He's had

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several MMA fights during his career.
He did have one boxing match quite a

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number of years ago where he lost
by a knockout in the fourth round,

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but that was a super midweight fight
way back in twenty fifty. Not sure

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you can put any stock in that. But before you made the fight with

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him, and obviously the fight with
Mike Tyson, you talked about taking on,

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you know, real boxers who were
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are more and fighting those couple of
fights that you had, you scored quick

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knockouts. And I'm wondering when this
fight with Mike Tyson got postponed, what

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was the motivation to go into another
so called, let's call it a non

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traditional boxing match, I guess,
compared to the more traditional ones, that

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route that you seem to be interested
to take to get that experience. Yeah,

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I wanted to give a big fight
to the fans. Both my last

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two fights, I was doing what
everyone wanted fight, a real boxer,

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fight, a real boxer fight someone. Yeah, and then you know I

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did that. First of all,
easy work, first round knockouts, but

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also just the hype wasn't there,
and to me, that's part of the

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reason I'm here and in this sport
is to bring the hype, to bring

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the big fights. And so my
fans and my haters even realize that they

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probably didn't even actually like those as
much. So I was like, Okay,

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this guy is violent. Mike Perry
is a killer, He's a mini

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Mike Tyson. The fans love this. The fans have been wanting this for

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a couple of years. So let's
make this happen. And that's really where

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the motivation came from. Now,
I've heard you say in the past,

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Jake, talking about, Oh,
I would do an MMA fight under the

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right circumstances. You were talking about
maybe doing a rematch with na Diaz in

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the cage. I wonder, okay, I don't know that obviously has not

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come to pass. Would you could
you consider doing a bare knuckle fight the

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way Perry does? Yeah, I
mean I wouldn't do bare knuckle. I

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think it's uh. I don't really
think it's a sport. I think it's

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like me heads just mauling each other. That's part of the reason I love

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boxing. This is the sweet science. Bare knuckle is just drunken bastards like

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on the tail ends of their careers
just trying to get a check, is

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how I look at it. So
I'm a boxer and I would venture off

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into MMA because I have a wrestling
background, but I wouldn't do bare knuckle.

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I just don't look at it as
a real sport. Fair enough,

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In terms of the Mike Tyson fight, if you, I know, it's

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a big event and obviously everybody's gonna
make a lot of money. There's a

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huge amount of fan interest, mainstream
interest, and I keep thinking to myself

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about your position in that fight,
that you're you're trying to make a big

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matchup. I totally get that,
but you're kind of damned if you do,

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and damned if you don't. If
you know what I mean in the

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sense that if you lose to a
fifty eight year old Mike Tyson who has

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not an actual boxing match and what
will be about twenty years, that'll make

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you look bad and you probably won't
get a lot of credit. But if

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you beat a fifty eight year old
guy that hasn't had a fight in almost

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twenty years, as big of a
name as Mike is, obviously, well

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you're supposed to do that. So
how do you square that circle by not

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leading a life trying to please others. I could give a fuck what anybody

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thinks or wants me to do or
has an opinion on. And I encourage

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everyone to live their lives that way
because I'm doing this fight for me to

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be able to tell my kids one
day that I was in the ring with

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Mike Tyson. It's such an honor. He's a legend, and if he

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wants to fight me, I am
more than down And to me, that

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is what it's all about, and
creating history, creating legacy, and fighting

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on Netflix, the biggest entertainment platform
in the world. I could give a

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shit what anybody thinks. Listen,
I can appreciate that for sure. I'll

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say this, there's a lot of
people that come from my age group.

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I'm a bit older than you,
of course, to remember watching Mike Tyson

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in his prime, when he was
champion, even before he was championing,

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all those incredible knockouts, and of
course the end of his career, before

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the comeback, and uh, you
know, I think me and others that

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look at this matchup have a hard
time thinking to themselves to see that remember

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that prime Tyson about the prospect of
Jake Paul, the YouTuber, the social

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media guy, the disruptor, the
Disney actor, all those things that they

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call you beating the all time icon. So I have a hard time with

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that. But what would that mean
to you, whatever his age is,

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to just know that you, whatever
his abilities are, that you could potentially

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beat iron Mike Tyson one of the
most iconic athletes in the history of sports.

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No, and that's exactly why I'm
doing it. Is the honor that

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I have for that man. And
to be able to go to duel and

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to war with someone who's channeled the
energy of the gods of war and is

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one of the most respected, legendary
icon names of all time. It's gonna

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bring the best out of me.
And I know he's a formidable opponent.

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I know he still has that power. He looks sharp as ever on his

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Instagram, and I'm going to be
putting myself to the test. His age

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is the equalizing factor because he has
more experience, but he is not going

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to be in his prime, and
so I look at this as an amazing

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matchup. And for people who don't
maybe want me to beat him or whatever,

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it might be like, including yourself. I'm not saying I don't want

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you to beat him. I'm just
saying the mentality of seeing you right right,

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you're right, all right, I've
got no I like both of you

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guys, you know. No,
not saying don't want, but like accepting

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that that's a possibility. I would
just say to look at the overall goodness

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that this is doing for the sport. It's bringing in so many young fans

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on the biggest entertainment platform that will
grow into boxers one day and maybe the

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next Mike Tyson is inspired to go
into the gym because of this fight,

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in this moment, it'll be the
most amount of eyeballs on a fight in

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the past couple hundred of years.
And so I think that's the beauty in

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the silver line and of this fight. That's a fair point. I'm not

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rooting against you. I'm not rooting
against Mike. But I covered Mike's end

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of his career when he was getting
knocked out by guys. So I actually

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think you should win this fight.
But that's a different story. But you

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mentioned about the Netflix thing. I
know that the Perry fight is a Dez

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owned pay per view fight. The
fight with Mike Tyson is on Netflix,

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along with yourself and Mike, and
obviously the great rematch between Katie Taylor and

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Amana Serrano. What does it mean
to you? I mean, I look

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at like this, there's room for
both platforms. There's room for pay per

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view fights. There's obviously room for
fights that are not extra money on a

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subscription service or even on free television
for that matter. But uh, what

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give me your thoughts about being the
group you know you and the keys of

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your team MVP to bring Netflix into
boxing, at least for this big event

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when no one else has been able
to do it so far. Yeah,

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we had always been talking with them
and developed a great relationship with them through

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my documentary that we did on Netflix, and they always liked working with us.

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We always liked working with them,
and we shared a similar vision of

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bringing boxing to Netflix and making it
a massive staple moment, and they entrusted

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in us an MVP and Nikisa to
bring that vision to life on the biggest

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way and the biggest scale possible.
And that's exactly what we're gonna do and

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did and had ready and planned for
at and T Stadium and now it just

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is on a little bit of a
rain delayed for November fifteenth. But that's

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why, you know, the name
of the business is Most Valuable Promotions,

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because that's exactly what we are,
what we represent, the standard that we

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hold ourselves to. And so I'll
wrap up with this then Jakie. First

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comes Mike Perry. Your last two
fights were first round knocked against supposed you

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know, full time boxers. Mike
Perry is not that, even though he's

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very successful in BKFC. Do you
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another first round knockout. What's your
expectation for the result? Yeah, I

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think it very highly likely. Could
end in the first round. I think

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very highly you could end in the
second round, and no more than three

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rounds, that's certain. He just
doesn't have anything in the skill sets and

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the defense and the footwork to be
in there with me longer than that.

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There you go, we'll leave it
there. Jake, thank you very much

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for your time. I'm gonna look
forward to seeing you fight Mike Perry and

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then of course look forward to seeing
you in Arlington, Texas in November for

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the big fight with Mike Tyson.
Jake, thank you very much. For

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your time. Thank you, man
appreciate it.