It's my great pleasure to welcome back to our podcast for another appearents that he's
the one and only Jake Paul Jake, You're one of the few guys I
get the interview who actually has two fights on this schedule at the same time.
But we'll talk about the reasons why we'll get into this. Your first
fight coming up, you're taking on the bare knuckle star Mike Perry. You'll
headline the pay per view July twentieth on his own pay per view in Tampa,
Farda. That, of course, is the date you were supposed to
fight Iron Mike Tyson coming out of his long retirement to take you on in
the fight at at and T Stadium. Obviously, you know he is sidelined
because of his medical issue. You're gonna fight Perry instead and look forward to
rescheduling with Tyson in November. So let's get into first of all, in
terms of that fight with Mike Tyson, can you express me just the disappointment
you had gone through the press tour. I've seen your training videos, I've
seen them back and forth between you and Tyson on your social media, and
then the fight gets postponed for several months because of his medical situation with his
ulcer. Can you just talk about your disappointment and having a change up the
way you did. Yeah, Look, I mean it was definitely heart wrenching,
and I felt so bad for everyone on the undercart as well. And
I knew how much of this meant to me, and I was so focused
on it. This was like my one singular focus and then you have to
like shift your mind set away from that all of a sudden, and so
it was a massive l But we love to turn RL's into w's and that's
what we're doing here with Mike Perry, keeping the train rolling, staying focused,
staying in camp, staying you know, in the gym, getting that
experience that I need because I started boxing so much later than everyone, and
so I need to stay ready and stay fighting. How do you, though,
avoid what would be, I guess, a natural come down if you
will, in terms of motivation, mentality. And again it's nothing against Mike
Perry, but it's a big difference going from Mike Tyson to Mike Perry,
it seems, at least in terms of your mentality. How do you avoid
the pitfalls? Yeah, it was definitely a for a couple of days there,
But you have to realize that you can't control a lot of what happens
in life, and you just have to roll with the punches, pun intended,
and stay committed to your goals. If you have true one commitment,
then whatever happens doesn't matter because you're just going to stay working towards the goal
and committed to the goal. It's like on fight week when I'm cutting weight
and people a lot of fighters don't like when people eat food in front of
them while they're cutting weight, Like someone will have Chick fil A and a
lot of fighters get pissed off, and it's like, why are you getting
pissed off If you're not fully committed to your goal and have the will power
to know exactly what it is that you're doing, that Chick fil A shouldn't
even bother you. And this is a another situation like that, Like this
that doesn't bother me. I'm staying focused on what I have to do.
Well. It's interesting that you just brought up the situation with cutting weight as
you do, so I wanted to ask about that you were going to fight
Mike Tyson in a heavyweight fight. In other words, whatever you were going
to weigh presumably you know a little bit over two hundred. He was certainly
going to be over two hundred pounds, but this fight with Mike Perry is
now a two hundred. I think I was at one ninety or two hundred.
Two hundred, so it's the cruiserweight limit. So it's it's a little
heavier than what you have been fighting at in general, but you still have
to make a weight Compared to the Tyson fight, Is there any problems there
because you look, you know, you were talking about how you would put
on some pounds and shown off your new physique in the videos that you had
posted, and that there is now a change that it's a different weight class.
Yeah. So you know, I was getting up to like two thirty
five and now back down in to the two fifteens. And that's just part
of the sport, you know, managing the weight up and down, and
when you know how to cut weight and do it the right way, it's
actually really easy. And so we'll just shave the rest of that off over
the next twenty something days. Now. In terms of Mike Perry, he's
undefeated in bare knuckle Fighting Championship He's five and zero three knockouts. He's had
several MMA fights during his career. He did have one boxing match quite a
number of years ago where he lost by a knockout in the fourth round,
but that was a super midweight fight way back in twenty fifty. Not sure
you can put any stock in that. But before you made the fight with
him, and obviously the fight with Mike Tyson, you talked about taking on,
you know, real boxers who were of a similar experience level as you
are more and fighting those couple of fights that you had, you scored quick
knockouts. And I'm wondering when this fight with Mike Tyson got postponed, what
was the motivation to go into another so called, let's call it a non
traditional boxing match, I guess, compared to the more traditional ones, that
route that you seem to be interested to take to get that experience. Yeah,
I wanted to give a big fight to the fans. Both my last
two fights, I was doing what everyone wanted fight, a real boxer,
fight, a real boxer fight someone. Yeah, and then you know I
did that. First of all, easy work, first round knockouts, but
also just the hype wasn't there, and to me, that's part of the
reason I'm here and in this sport is to bring the hype, to bring
the big fights. And so my fans and my haters even realize that they
probably didn't even actually like those as much. So I was like, Okay,
this guy is violent. Mike Perry is a killer, He's a mini
Mike Tyson. The fans love this. The fans have been wanting this for
a couple of years. So let's make this happen. And that's really where
the motivation came from. Now, I've heard you say in the past,
Jake, talking about, Oh, I would do an MMA fight under the
right circumstances. You were talking about maybe doing a rematch with na Diaz in
the cage. I wonder, okay, I don't know that obviously has not
come to pass. Would you could you consider doing a bare knuckle fight the
way Perry does? Yeah, I mean I wouldn't do bare knuckle. I
think it's uh. I don't really think it's a sport. I think it's
like me heads just mauling each other. That's part of the reason I love
boxing. This is the sweet science. Bare knuckle is just drunken bastards like
on the tail ends of their careers just trying to get a check, is
how I look at it. So I'm a boxer and I would venture off
into MMA because I have a wrestling background, but I wouldn't do bare knuckle.
I just don't look at it as a real sport. Fair enough,
In terms of the Mike Tyson fight, if you, I know, it's
a big event and obviously everybody's gonna make a lot of money. There's a
huge amount of fan interest, mainstream interest, and I keep thinking to myself
about your position in that fight, that you're you're trying to make a big
matchup. I totally get that, but you're kind of damned if you do,
and damned if you don't. If you know what I mean in the
sense that if you lose to a fifty eight year old Mike Tyson who has
not an actual boxing match and what will be about twenty years, that'll make
you look bad and you probably won't get a lot of credit. But if
you beat a fifty eight year old guy that hasn't had a fight in almost
twenty years, as big of a name as Mike is, obviously, well
you're supposed to do that. So how do you square that circle by not
leading a life trying to please others. I could give a fuck what anybody
thinks or wants me to do or has an opinion on. And I encourage
everyone to live their lives that way because I'm doing this fight for me to
be able to tell my kids one day that I was in the ring with
Mike Tyson. It's such an honor. He's a legend, and if he
wants to fight me, I am more than down And to me, that
is what it's all about, and creating history, creating legacy, and fighting
on Netflix, the biggest entertainment platform in the world. I could give a
shit what anybody thinks. Listen, I can appreciate that for sure. I'll
say this, there's a lot of people that come from my age group.
I'm a bit older than you, of course, to remember watching Mike Tyson
in his prime, when he was champion, even before he was championing,
all those incredible knockouts, and of course the end of his career, before
the comeback, and uh, you know, I think me and others that
look at this matchup have a hard time thinking to themselves to see that remember
that prime Tyson about the prospect of Jake Paul, the YouTuber, the social
media guy, the disruptor, the Disney actor, all those things that they
call you beating the all time icon. So I have a hard time with
that. But what would that mean to you, whatever his age is,
to just know that you, whatever his abilities are, that you could potentially
beat iron Mike Tyson one of the most iconic athletes in the history of sports.
No, and that's exactly why I'm doing it. Is the honor that
I have for that man. And to be able to go to duel and
to war with someone who's channeled the energy of the gods of war and is
one of the most respected, legendary icon names of all time. It's gonna
bring the best out of me. And I know he's a formidable opponent.
I know he still has that power. He looks sharp as ever on his
Instagram, and I'm going to be putting myself to the test. His age
is the equalizing factor because he has more experience, but he is not going
to be in his prime, and so I look at this as an amazing
matchup. And for people who don't maybe want me to beat him or whatever,
it might be like, including yourself. I'm not saying I don't want
you to beat him. I'm just saying the mentality of seeing you right right,
you're right, all right, I've got no I like both of you
guys, you know. No, not saying don't want, but like accepting
that that's a possibility. I would just say to look at the overall goodness
that this is doing for the sport. It's bringing in so many young fans
on the biggest entertainment platform that will grow into boxers one day and maybe the
next Mike Tyson is inspired to go into the gym because of this fight,
in this moment, it'll be the most amount of eyeballs on a fight in
the past couple hundred of years. And so I think that's the beauty in
the silver line and of this fight. That's a fair point. I'm not
rooting against you. I'm not rooting against Mike. But I covered Mike's end
of his career when he was getting knocked out by guys. So I actually
think you should win this fight. But that's a different story. But you
mentioned about the Netflix thing. I know that the Perry fight is a Dez
owned pay per view fight. The fight with Mike Tyson is on Netflix,
along with yourself and Mike, and obviously the great rematch between Katie Taylor and
Amana Serrano. What does it mean to you? I mean, I look
at like this, there's room for both platforms. There's room for pay per
view fights. There's obviously room for fights that are not extra money on a
subscription service or even on free television for that matter. But uh, what
give me your thoughts about being the group you know you and the keys of
your team MVP to bring Netflix into boxing, at least for this big event
when no one else has been able to do it so far. Yeah,
we had always been talking with them and developed a great relationship with them through
my documentary that we did on Netflix, and they always liked working with us.
We always liked working with them, and we shared a similar vision of
bringing boxing to Netflix and making it a massive staple moment, and they entrusted
in us an MVP and Nikisa to bring that vision to life on the biggest
way and the biggest scale possible. And that's exactly what we're gonna do and
did and had ready and planned for at and T Stadium and now it just
is on a little bit of a rain delayed for November fifteenth. But that's
why, you know, the name of the business is Most Valuable Promotions,
because that's exactly what we are, what we represent, the standard that we
hold ourselves to. And so I'll wrap up with this then Jakie. First
comes Mike Perry. Your last two fights were first round knocked against supposed you
know, full time boxers. Mike Perry is not that, even though he's
very successful in BKFC. Do you think that fans will be looking to see
another first round knockout. What's your expectation for the result? Yeah, I
think it very highly likely. Could end in the first round. I think
very highly you could end in the second round, and no more than three
rounds, that's certain. He just doesn't have anything in the skill sets and
the defense and the footwork to be in there with me longer than that.
There you go, we'll leave it there. Jake, thank you very much
for your time. I'm gonna look forward to seeing you fight Mike Perry and
then of course look forward to seeing you in Arlington, Texas in November for
the big fight with Mike Tyson. Jake, thank you very much. For
your time. Thank you, man appreciate it.