1 00:00:07,919 --> 00:00:13,039 Good morning, Mother Sphere, Good morning, Mother, Comonic Sphere Welcome. 2 00:00:20,199 --> 00:00:34,679 We are tribes i chavas, tribe thank you, good morning, mother, 3 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,200 wait, welcome. One more day to our podcast, you know, the 4 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,719 podcast of the Community of Mothersphere in which we try to approach, therefore, 5 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:47,719 people, projects, challenges, themes that help us all, to manage a 6 00:00:47,759 --> 00:00:53,079 little better or to learn or, to reflect or to feel accompanied in this 7 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:58,840 beautiful task, in this aspect of life, in this walk that we take 8 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:03,719 when we are raising and accompanying creatures and, of course, our section more 9 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:11,879 focused on accompanying us and in sitting around the table and making pineapple and in 10 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:18,040 making tribe we are tribe with my friends, my dear ones, Cristina López 11 00:01:18,079 --> 00:01:23,680 and Arancha Rollo. Good morning, Cristina, as you are one more month 12 00:01:23,799 --> 00:01:26,920 or the single arancha. Very well, as always I am delighted with this 13 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,840 little moment that I think is more and more a gift, almost more san 14 00:01:30,879 --> 00:01:36,640 behind us and because we enjoy it so much that we expect it to reach 15 00:01:36,719 --> 00:01:38,239 the people who hear it. He' s telling me once, and he 16 00:01:38,239 --> 00:01:38,840 ' s saying it' s like if you' re having a good time. 17 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,920 I mean, it' s reality. We had so much fun that 18 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:46,120 then it' s really nice to share it with people who listen to it. 19 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,280 Good morning, all the people who are listening to us. I was 20 00:01:49,319 --> 00:01:53,040 thinking of listening to you, you think if we didn' t, if 21 00:01:53,079 --> 00:01:57,040 it didn' t happen to us, I don' t think so, 22 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,640 then we start from there that we enjoy it, that it' s a 23 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:06,239 time of self- care for us and that then it has also helped us 24 00:02:06,239 --> 00:02:07,200 in our day- to- day life with its little ones and I have 25 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:08,280 said this which, of course, is so. We know that there is 26 00:02:08,319 --> 00:02:13,159 a lot coming that people love and that we have many listeners that also, 27 00:02:13,319 --> 00:02:15,879 then we get mensajitos. I mean, there' s heard in the tribe 28 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:22,919 that we' re tribes this month There' s listeners who listen to only 29 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,319 that section of the podcast that you know, that' s to say welcome 30 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:30,639 ones to listen to the rest as well. But I love that it is 31 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:36,680 a space that I know is very special and that your voices and this intimate 32 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,879 environment that we have created. I love that they have that faithful audience and 33 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:46,159 that I hope they really learn something or that, at least I don' 34 00:02:46,199 --> 00:02:50,159 t know whether to learn that, maybe it' s a very ambitious goal, 35 00:02:50,319 --> 00:02:55,240 that they feel a little less alone and less abandoned there in the cold, 36 00:02:55,639 --> 00:03:07,520 in the hard steppe Castilian everything and this month, because we bring a 37 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:15,039 theme and a theme and a concept that I have to first of all derive 38 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,120 to a mother- sphere space dedicated to the boredom that we had last year 39 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:28,479 and that I will leave you in the notes of the program, because it 40 00:03:28,479 --> 00:03:30,240 is another way also to understand and that it complements safely. Even if you 41 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:32,680 have not yet listened to this programme, I am convinced that you are dealing 42 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,439 very well with what you are going to tell us. Cristina and Arancha always 43 00:03:35,479 --> 00:03:40,800 from this vision you know of the respect for the childhood of our creatures, 44 00:03:40,919 --> 00:03:45,560 who are people. Please, it seems that it is obvious and obvious and 45 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:52,159 it is not at all and that where you try to address everyday issues of 46 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,319 upbringing, motherhood and fatherhood from a vision of the positive discipline that you bring 47 00:03:55,439 --> 00:04:00,199 us, Cristina and Aranchas, des s de s UAs your experience, from 48 00:04:00,199 --> 00:04:03,960 your knowledge, from your initiatives, from that magic school, from all the 49 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:09,680 meetings and projects that you bring together, Cristina and Arancha, which are fantastic 50 00:04:09,759 --> 00:04:14,199 there in Burgos, to which we send a greeting, because you hear that 51 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:18,519 you make cool things in Burgos. By the way, I really do. 52 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:25,319 I am surprised by many people who return to Burgos after some time having lived 53 00:04:25,399 --> 00:04:29,319 in other places. Yes, yes, yes, envy gives me and see 54 00:04:29,399 --> 00:04:32,480 that in Madrid things are done, but I really like the atmosphere that you 55 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,399 have there in Burgos and the cool things that you do. So, having 56 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:41,120 said this and I have thus understood a little bit the context that you tell 57 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:46,759 us today about boredom. Yes, the approach we wanted to give you above 58 00:04:46,759 --> 00:04:49,639 all is practical. Not because you already know that what comes to us are 59 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:54,639 the questions a little from day to day, not from a very broad concept 60 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,000 of boredom, which is true, that that space was the truth, that 61 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:03,000 it was wonderful and that it has a goal of information and learning, and 62 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,600 our idea is a little landing it not that in the end you say well, 63 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,920 this is very good. Let' s philosophize about it, which will 64 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,160 also put a little context. But when my little boy tells me on Sunday 65 00:05:12,199 --> 00:05:15,360 afternoon, Mom, I get bored or Dad gets bored, What we do, 66 00:05:15,639 --> 00:05:18,959 how we deal with it, that I think we' re missing like 67 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,079 that step and that, besides it' s what they always value us and 68 00:05:21,079 --> 00:05:24,360 he says jo is that in the end you gave me three ideas and already 69 00:05:24,439 --> 00:05:27,639 then it has occurred to me and from there, from that sharing of the 70 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,600 tribe that is from where we do it. Then. Having said that, 71 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,560 I was looking to prepare the podcast and I say okay but what is boredom, 72 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,600 that is, how we define it, because boredom we have all lived 73 00:05:35,639 --> 00:05:40,480 it, we have felt it in different moments of our life, but what 74 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:41,759 is then, I say well, because I am going to ask the dictionary. 75 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,879 You know I like it and told NBA it' s boredom. Actually. 76 00:05:45,199 --> 00:05:46,279 I asked Chan Gept that you already know that I am now a lot 77 00:05:46,319 --> 00:05:51,480 of people and he told me. He said to me boredom, he says 78 00:05:51,519 --> 00:05:55,959 to me is the tiredness of the mood that I am already as it has 79 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,439 impacted me. Having said this, it appears as poetry that we have gone 80 00:06:00,079 --> 00:06:04,000 into cervific tiredness of the mood caused by a lack of encouragement or distraction or 81 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,399 a repeated annoyance. And I think this concept is important that we have it, 82 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:14,839 because boredom itself. Lately we wanted to give him as a very mainstream 83 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,720 roll, very clip Bay, very headline girls. Kids have to get bored. 84 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:23,519 Everyone has to be bored. We need creativity and then, but the 85 00:06:23,519 --> 00:06:26,439 boredom, the mood that generates us at the emotional level and at the body 86 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:31,000 level is not predisposed to that creativity. Creativity needs a state of body and 87 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,279 a state of mind in which we are much more receptive, in which our 88 00:06:34,319 --> 00:06:38,920 body is open to expectation and in which we are active, in which we 89 00:06:38,959 --> 00:06:43,439 feel like movement. That' s why I' ve done many times when 90 00:06:43,439 --> 00:06:45,959 we' re walking people who know how to walk that you come up with 91 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,759 a lot of ideas that you say I don' t know if I stop 92 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:58,360 to write them, but the tiredness, emotional and body state that generates us 93 00:06:58,399 --> 00:07:01,240 is much more shrinking and from there it' s very difficult to jump and 94 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:02,079 immediately, as if I was going to light a match. Suddenly. Now 95 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,759 you' re going to come up with the new startup or the new idea 96 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:11,199 you' re going to come up with, the new wonderful idea is very 97 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,079 complicated, because our state isn' t conducive to what we want to look 98 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,120 for, which is creativity or curiosity or suddenly having a space. No. 99 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,399 So, I think you have to understand that and from that concept it' 100 00:07:23,519 --> 00:07:26,480 s worth how we transform. Then boredom in something else or how we accept 101 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:30,360 it. I think it is also important to work on acceptance. There are 102 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,319 times that are boring, because they are boring. Let' s face it, 103 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,279 it' s one more state we' re in. What happens is 104 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:39,720 that like unpleasant states, we' ve talked about it many times, we 105 00:07:39,759 --> 00:07:42,240 don' t like them and we don' t like seeing them in our 106 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,360 creatures either. What we understand is come quickly. Let' s get out 107 00:07:45,399 --> 00:07:48,160 of this state and don' t tell me again that you' re bored, 108 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,439 because look at the amount of toys you have there that you haven' 109 00:07:51,439 --> 00:07:56,360 t even taken out, because start doing anything, because play with your brother 110 00:07:56,399 --> 00:08:01,680 get out of there fast, instead of understanding that you' re bored, 111 00:08:01,879 --> 00:08:05,000 because you still can' t think of anything to do now, because this 112 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,800 space is boring, because if we are, then we' ll see cases 113 00:08:07,839 --> 00:08:09,399 in a doctor' s office, because man, a space like very entertaining. 114 00:08:09,519 --> 00:08:13,079 It' s not that it' s as much as they decorate it, 115 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,680 we appreciate it, but it' s not that it' s an 116 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,879 amusement park either. So I think that' s the first one that we 117 00:08:18,879 --> 00:08:22,680 have to understand, not that it' s boredom, that it' s 118 00:08:22,759 --> 00:08:24,439 not a state let' s say optimal, I don' t like the 119 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:31,439 word nice, but it' s a state that good, it generates some 120 00:08:31,519 --> 00:08:37,480 uneasiness and now what we can do to transform it and also to accept it 121 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,320 from our figure of mothers and fathers and we talk a little bit with arancha 122 00:08:41,399 --> 00:08:46,759 that also, that state what you generate a behavior on top of that it 123 00:08:46,759 --> 00:08:48,720 ' s boring, generates a behavior, it said a disruptive honk that as 124 00:08:48,799 --> 00:08:52,000 it curls a little bit more, the rhythm is not only that I' 125 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:52,000 m bored, is that you' ll see what' s going to start 126 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,639 to happen now. Yeah,' cause you said, we owe the phrase 127 00:08:56,639 --> 00:08:58,320 to me, I get bored. But this phrase bores me when they' 128 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:03,759 re a little older in early childhood. They are not aware that they are 129 00:09:03,759 --> 00:09:07,120 getting bored, because that need for entertainment, they are not able to identify 130 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:11,759 it. What they do is start to entertain themselves the way they see it 131 00:09:11,799 --> 00:09:16,480 causing the most impact. And as it causes more impact, because with disruptive 132 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:24,039 behavior so many times I see it in Aula with my children too. Evidently, 133 00:09:24,759 --> 00:09:31,240 that sign of starting to throw things upset, begins to have behaviors that 134 00:09:31,279 --> 00:09:35,039 cause us discomfort is synonymous. I' m bored. The thing is, 135 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,360 they' re still not able to say it. Then we have to see 136 00:09:39,759 --> 00:09:43,960 that need for entertainment and be able to satisfy it instead of stopping, stopping, 137 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:48,000 stopping, because when we just want to stop the behavior and settle in 138 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,919 it, don' t do, don' t look. Sometimes put yourself 139 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:58,480 on or we pull a screen as the first solution. In the end we 140 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:03,159 are taking away an opportunity that they can build their own needs, which is 141 00:10:03,159 --> 00:10:07,399 basically me when from nonviolent communication. It' s one of the great discoveries 142 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,360 you' ve made to me is that you have the need to sometimes tell 143 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:16,480 me you need boredom. Boring is not a necessity. Entertainment is a necessity. 144 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:20,080 Let' s see how we' re gonna satisfy that need for entertainment. 145 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:24,320 And, as Chris said, action is essential. And action requires an 146 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:31,080 enabling environment that passes through things that are the same. It is not that 147 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,519 calm situation that we would love to have adults and also know how to be 148 00:10:35,519 --> 00:10:45,679 self- compassionate with ourselves, that there will be moments because of physical personal 149 00:10:45,799 --> 00:10:46,600 situations that we really need that calm, but that is not the norm. 150 00:10:46,759 --> 00:10:54,000 So it is important for me to find a balance between favoring a space so 151 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,080 that they can decide what to do with their time. Well, it' 152 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:03,679 s my favorite way to define everything that has to do with boredom. It 153 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,919 is not that they need to be bored, but that they need time, 154 00:11:09,159 --> 00:11:11,480 space and know what to do with that time and with that space, or 155 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,039 have the decision- making ability to do in that time, in that space 156 00:11:16,039 --> 00:11:20,080 to say what to do. Yes, because I think that this is the 157 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,639 most difficult phase, not how I accompany them in those moments without falling either 158 00:11:22,759 --> 00:11:28,720 in becoming the cheerleader of the turn of that space that, suddenly, because 159 00:11:28,799 --> 00:11:35,559 that between them, the criaturillas, do not know what to do with that 160 00:11:35,639 --> 00:11:37,720 time, And there are times that we fall instead in the accompaniment, in 161 00:11:39,279 --> 00:11:43,200 becoming, because that is a circus artist so that they are entertained but they 162 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,799 are not entertaining themselves. We are entertaining you that we can do it with 163 00:11:46,879 --> 00:11:50,639 a screen that is much faster, but there are times that we fall into 164 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:52,960 it because I start doing things to get you out of that state. But 165 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,360 this is raising for me the situation above which I am entertaining you. It 166 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,000 ' s not working out enough for you, of course, because your need 167 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,720 isn' t covered. Actually, what we' re trying to do is 168 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,879 cover ours, which is that you don' t tell me again or that 169 00:12:05,879 --> 00:12:09,799 you' re bored or that you end this behavior that' s been created 170 00:12:09,799 --> 00:12:13,320 by that state of boredom. And stopping there is complicated. We already know 171 00:12:13,639 --> 00:12:16,679 that this theory is fine, but then you have to be home that Sunday 172 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,080 afternoon that when you' re there listening, I get bored, I get 173 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,480 bored. I have to do it and you have to iron the next day, 174 00:12:22,639 --> 00:12:26,519 you have to go to work, that is, it' s not 175 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,240 a state like super happy either. That' s why he said" rancha 176 00:12:30,279 --> 00:12:35,360 " For us it is important that the more environment prepared or more situations prepared 177 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,399 and anticipated, the easier we are going to be able to solve that situation. 178 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,480 And I' m not saying that I' m going to solve the 179 00:12:43,639 --> 00:12:48,559 problem, but I' m going to be able to solve it or I 180 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,440 ' m going to have tools to confront it and, above all, I 181 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:50,440 ' m going to take that idea away when we get that moment of good 182 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,879 is that it needs to get bored. So it' s going to be 183 00:12:52,919 --> 00:12:54,320 a lot more creative and they' re going to call you back at Silicon 184 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,919 Vale. They don' t need spaces and it happens to us too and 185 00:12:58,879 --> 00:13:03,159 I' ve realized that with the people we have, where they have everything 186 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,600 organized, when they have free time. It is normal that they do not 187 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,840 know what to do with it, because so far we have set everything for 188 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,360 them. So if you' re all set as a kid, it' 189 00:13:11,639 --> 00:13:13,600 s now you get up. You do this. You get your teeth stuck, 190 00:13:13,799 --> 00:13:16,480 you go to school and you come back. You eat at Grandma' 191 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:18,960 s. Then you have English. After English is the snack, then the 192 00:13:18,039 --> 00:13:20,399 homework. Now play the bathroom, you' ll have to pick up. 193 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,879 I don' t know what. I don' t know how many you 194 00:13:22,879 --> 00:13:24,879 ' re going to bed. Suddenly there comes a Sunday. I say Sunday, 195 00:13:24,919 --> 00:13:28,879 because it' s usually Sunday afternoon. It' s usually very complicated 196 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,480 and I have five hours, five hours that adults sometimes. Five hours watch 197 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:35,639 what he gives you. It gives you time for the gym, to meditate, 198 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:37,879 to learn English, to read a book and you say, I have 199 00:13:37,879 --> 00:13:43,440 two left over. Imagine five hours for a small creature that his decision- 200 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,039 making is not yet acquired and that you have released him. There you already 201 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:52,799 have all afternoon for you oysters or well, of course, it is very 202 00:13:52,799 --> 00:13:58,759 complicated to manage for girls boys. So I think that understanding this the next 203 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,120 time you tell us, because even that headline of good because it is that 204 00:14:01,159 --> 00:14:05,679 since it needs to be bored to treat, we are going to leave a 205 00:14:05,759 --> 00:14:09,039 little and we will be able to face it from another way that for me 206 00:14:09,039 --> 00:14:11,840 it seems important and to make reflections to as adults and you give five hours 207 00:14:11,919 --> 00:14:16,879 free now of time. Yes, yes, it seems that we all want, 208 00:14:16,919 --> 00:14:20,360 but at the third hour you say because now I have a use with 209 00:14:20,399 --> 00:14:22,840 someone you know you are exhausted a little and with this phrase, as with 210 00:14:22,879 --> 00:14:28,720 many others related to life in general, does not apply the same for childhood 211 00:14:28,759 --> 00:14:37,399 as for adults. And we have different scales that I can understand that the 212 00:14:37,399 --> 00:14:45,799 needs are different, but that adult centrism that we have in this our society 213 00:14:45,799 --> 00:14:52,000 is very much denoted, but in a brutal way and since we do not 214 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:58,960 put ourselves in the skin also of the creatures, not knowing how we know 215 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:03,559 that they have different needs, a dif capabilities is, a different way of 216 00:15:03,559 --> 00:15:07,120 understanding the world. And yet, because we demand things that we do not 217 00:15:07,399 --> 00:15:15,720 directly demand of ourselves, that is to want to bore us or to live 218 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:20,480 it well boredom. What to me is, And besides, if we go 219 00:15:20,519 --> 00:15:22,879 today to any space where there are people waiting for something, what they' 220 00:15:24,159 --> 00:15:31,919 re doing looking at the mobile, changing the mobile. That' s something 221 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,159 that, thanks to Christi, I' m trying to do. I don 222 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,879 ' t know what it is to take advantage of, to do some work 223 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:46,480 that has to be done, but if it' s time, I' 224 00:15:46,519 --> 00:15:48,639 m going to look at the mobile because yes, well, until the end, 225 00:15:48,759 --> 00:15:54,399 what model we' re giving, not that we' re generating and 226 00:15:54,399 --> 00:15:54,720 we have the expectation that they in their free time, without resources around them, 227 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,159 which is absurd. You' re a three- year- old or 228 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,679 four- year- old who' s suddenly this, have that feeling of 229 00:16:00,679 --> 00:16:03,320 beautiful. Man, I' m getting bored. I don' t have 230 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:08,679 anything to do, but it mysteriously stops like this. Say ah wait what 231 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:15,440 educational and educational and development opportunity I am living right now, Mom, Dad 232 00:16:15,919 --> 00:16:21,080 calmly, I will stop effectively, Thank you for this moment that you are 233 00:16:21,159 --> 00:16:25,000 giving me education. Thanks for making me a better person. Thanks to this 234 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:30,480 moment of boredom, I will be much better, I will resist frustration. 235 00:16:32,679 --> 00:16:34,919 I' m gonna have you a mda tomorrow. Thanks, Dad and Mom. 236 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:41,799 I want so much. I loved it, uh, or yes, 237 00:16:41,559 --> 00:16:45,600 yes, that' s it. Please, I' ve thought, I 238 00:16:45,679 --> 00:16:48,720 say from here to I' m going to. But maybe some kid did. 239 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:55,279 Hey, if you' re listening to us at home and your son, 240 00:16:56,200 --> 00:17:00,279 your daughter has had that moment, you can email us. Don' 241 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,039 t hang him in nets. You can' t two thank you, please. 242 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:06,559 Don' t publish it. You need to record it and put it 243 00:17:06,559 --> 00:17:07,920 on. Well, it' s not going to be real, but, 244 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:14,720 well, maybe there might be some circumstance. No, yes, I, 245 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,759 in fact, as an anecdote, the other day I was in rehab in 246 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,559 a room. Then there was all we were adults and what we were all 247 00:17:22,599 --> 00:17:26,400 about is each one in his chair, because one with infrared, the other 248 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,480 with such and above one is rehabilitation, because I could be the youngest, 249 00:17:30,799 --> 00:17:36,079 more or less, and everyone was with the phone, mobile in hand. 250 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,839 Everyone, I mean, I mean, and I say young, because a 251 00:17:41,599 --> 00:17:42,880 lot of people tend to be that young people are all day with their phones. 252 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,200 Everyone was there with their cell phone. The only one who had a 253 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,720 book was me and then I decided to come and do the exercise of not 254 00:17:51,759 --> 00:17:53,000 even opening the book to see what happens. Ah, well, I was 255 00:17:53,119 --> 00:18:00,200 three minutes away from having to be on for ten minutes with a couple of 256 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,960 cheeks on my shoulder, and I was looking at the clock and I was 257 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,240 just saying that I' ve been looking at them all, and he' 258 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,160 s made up all the stories about these people. I' m going to 259 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:12,079 open my book, but because I had previously made the decision to take the 260 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,160 book with me, I wanted to read it. It was the book I 261 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,200 wanted to read. I mean, I had made a previous decision- making. 262 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:21,440 First, because I knew the space I was going to, I mean, 263 00:18:21,759 --> 00:18:22,920 I' m already an adult person and done, I knew what I 264 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,200 was going to, I was going to a rehabitation room, I had to 265 00:18:26,279 --> 00:18:29,160 stay for a while with something still in a chair. I knew all the 266 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,440 information. I decided to take a book and besides, the one I had 267 00:18:32,519 --> 00:18:34,480 chosen because just like that at that time, the lady of Alla tells me 268 00:18:34,759 --> 00:18:40,400 take one of the stories of the West and I say come bring as when 269 00:18:40,519 --> 00:18:41,599 there is a magazine there in the waiting room and you say well, since 270 00:18:41,599 --> 00:18:45,079 there is nothing else. But I' m not stalling. I am occupying 271 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,799 time, which is very different, that is, occupying time is not there, 272 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,599 it is not entertainment and that does not give rise to creativity, except 273 00:18:52,799 --> 00:18:56,720 circumstances where we already have the same since, an adult person who is looking 274 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,039 for other things, but the girls and they, as they said the wide, 275 00:18:59,039 --> 00:19:00,799 small ones, moreover, do not think at that moment. Ah, 276 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,160 well, I' m going to take up my time, watching this magazine 277 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:07,160 with drawings. You know if I can think of being an interior architect in 278 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,079 the future and not thank you. Thank you I' m gonna love this. 279 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,079 We don' t then. I think it' s always going to 280 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,359 our adult shoes and saying what I' ve done to face this situation. 281 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,480 Or if I go to an airport and a flight is delayed, I mean, 282 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,039 I don' t see people saying it' s going super well, 283 00:19:26,039 --> 00:19:27,920 I have an hour. I' m going to fire him in the office 284 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,079 because I have an hour because he' s late for the flight. I 285 00:19:30,079 --> 00:19:32,680 see people complaining I hear they' ve challenged the flight. I don' 286 00:19:32,759 --> 00:19:33,920 t want to get home. I mean, they' re not there. 287 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:41,039 Well, I' m gonna get bored in that, not unless you don 288 00:19:41,079 --> 00:19:42,319 ' t want to get home. Same. There are people who say your 289 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:48,480 tricks there are no ones I don' t want to help. Yeah, 290 00:19:48,599 --> 00:19:49,960 normal thing is you say" Jolín" you' re going to shit. 291 00:19:51,039 --> 00:19:53,200 I had this in my head, which is I had an expectation in my 292 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,000 head, which was that I was going to get on the plane until now 293 00:19:56,039 --> 00:19:59,400 and in the time of the plane there was going to be a series, 294 00:19:59,559 --> 00:20:03,240 there was going to be a book, whatever, I was going to answer 295 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,880 emais from work, I was going to sleep. I had already prefixed what 296 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,559 I was going to do and suddenly, I fit a time that is not 297 00:20:10,599 --> 00:20:14,160 in my expectation and I get angry. And besides, I' m going 298 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,880 to complain and I' m not saying what a good opportunity I have, 299 00:20:18,759 --> 00:20:21,880 because you see I can' t do anything, what a good opportunity I 300 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,720 have for creativity. I' m going to put out here the blog that 301 00:20:23,759 --> 00:20:29,000 I always carry and I' m going to develop a new startup and call 302 00:20:29,039 --> 00:20:32,960 Silicon Valley in these fifty- four minutes of flight delay, that is, 303 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,200 to pass on someone yes, but because we' re also adults. There 304 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,720 are also people who say listen, and I have learned very well to take 305 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,160 advantage of my time. I got it super cool. But girls boys don 306 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,240 ' t need that accompaniment. They need us to show them when tomorrow this 307 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,599 happens to you on a flight, how you' re going to take it, 308 00:20:45,759 --> 00:20:48,960 what you' re going to do, what' s going to happen 309 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:48,960 to you, and you' re going to be in a hospital. That 310 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:53,240 anticipation is doing a little bit of walking around with everything Chris said. In 311 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:57,519 the end, the key is to know where you are going and, to 312 00:20:57,519 --> 00:21:00,200 the extent that you said posino, how long you are going to be. 313 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,680 Although the concept of time is somewhat abstract. Choice, choice ability to know 314 00:21:04,759 --> 00:21:08,240 how you' re going to want to occupy that time and what resources you 315 00:21:08,319 --> 00:21:12,039 ' re going to want to take. Because, well, I' m 316 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:18,920 also telling you that having a prefixed gaming backpack that you take out right at 317 00:21:18,039 --> 00:21:22,839 the last minute and take it away, because it' s also a great 318 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,839 option that we can choose before if it' s going to be a very 319 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:27,319 long time, what it wants to take just for that occasion too. But 320 00:21:27,759 --> 00:21:33,079 we have plan ah no and plan B that survives it Come on. I 321 00:21:33,079 --> 00:21:37,640 have not noticed, but I have a backpack of games that I can always 322 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:45,039 carry, of objects that I know you normally like to use and then the 323 00:21:45,039 --> 00:21:49,480 adult accompaniment, the high accompaniment to have an expectation of even with all this 324 00:21:49,559 --> 00:21:55,559 you will need of my presence and you will need of my accompaniment for this 325 00:21:55,599 --> 00:21:59,240 memento that is not pleasant for anyone. Yes, first, then it can 326 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:03,599 become a connection moment. Yes, then, linking all this together, if 327 00:22:04,039 --> 00:22:08,039 you want to run, we can think of those situations, especially that we 328 00:22:08,079 --> 00:22:12,079 were asking a little bit and that they told us that they gave us concrete 329 00:22:12,079 --> 00:22:17,880 situations, they said okay, but when you go to the doctor and then 330 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,880 I' m in the doctor' s room and of course it' s 331 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:21,880 long or the dentist, and there' s not much room for movement. 332 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:26,039 In addition, they are spaces a little that are not thought for anything, 333 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,640 for girls and boys, that is to say here you have to be silent, 334 00:22:29,839 --> 00:22:33,319 sepulchral that seems that there is a convent and clearly is already much more 335 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:38,480 disruptive, because it is much more complicated to comply with that norm that there 336 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,559 is here. We are no longer going to tell the health centers that they 337 00:22:41,599 --> 00:22:45,119 could change the architecture of the centers a little bit, but well, you 338 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,759 could tell them. We don' t say it, it wouldn' t 339 00:22:48,759 --> 00:22:52,720 be another change it, please, it' s another melon integrative architecture. 340 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,039 Let' s go to the doctor and what we do, that is, 341 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,480 how we anticipate, because I think that in the end you' re going 342 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,920 to go to the doctor, since this information is this, then I think 343 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:08,000 we need to tell them more about what' s going to happen, what 344 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,599 space is like. Sometimes you don' t know him later. If you 345 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,880 have gone to the doctor many times, you already know, but those first 346 00:23:14,039 --> 00:23:17,279 times or even many times you have to repeat it, because I, John, 347 00:23:17,519 --> 00:23:18,359 are already older. But now, anyway, we have to go to 348 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:23,319 the screening vaccine of I don' t know what somehow keeps asking me, 349 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:26,319 but then we have to wait. But it' s with the nurse. 350 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,160 They' re the ones asking you the questions because they want to know. 351 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,680 I want to know as an adult, too. I want you to tell 352 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,400 me. Then give them that information that' s not me. I think 353 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,559 sometimes, because I said arancha to clarify a little something that we say if 354 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,279 I have already told you that we go to the doctor, of course it 355 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:47,480 is the doctor, what it means, what framework it has, how it 356 00:23:47,519 --> 00:23:49,680 will be if there are chairs and there are no chairs, even that we 357 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,359 talked about it once. No, there are sometimes no situations in the periods 358 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,880 here that you cannot anticipate, but there are others that do. Then tell 359 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,720 them you' re looking at the Health Center. You remember we went once 360 00:23:59,799 --> 00:24:03,079 there are some chairs, you sit there and we have to wait for the 361 00:24:03,079 --> 00:24:06,680 person to come out and call us and until they don' t come out 362 00:24:07,279 --> 00:24:11,319 or we can all call them andres or other people here don' t take 363 00:24:11,319 --> 00:24:15,920 him away. He has his opinion, you have a clear opinion. He 364 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,079 ' s saying immios dogs that when we go to the vet we have to 365 00:24:19,079 --> 00:24:26,680 anticipate explaining it to him as well. I would say that people come when 366 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:30,200 there are people, because they have to tell that story. I think we 367 00:24:30,279 --> 00:24:33,559 have to do it always adapted to your age, obviously, but that is 368 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,160 that also the creators of teenagers' entities, if they have to go to 369 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,240 the dentist, will be bored. And of course everyone with their cell phone. 370 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:42,920 There, it' s a situation like I' m taking a puzzle 371 00:24:44,079 --> 00:24:48,400 out of you. I' d be laughing, I wouldn' t wish 372 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,759 it was me, as an adult, semi- functional, I' d 373 00:24:52,759 --> 00:24:55,599 love to have puzzles. The doctor' s office, you can imagine. 374 00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:02,920 Well, I' d stay there and you have to go. I' 375 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,680 ll stay here and have the piece. I' m already super creative. 376 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,640 This is what I' m thinking, I' m thinking a lot while 377 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,680 you guys talk. I know this is a childhood space, especially, but 378 00:25:15,759 --> 00:25:19,839 I' m thinking a lot about seniors, third, seniors, seniors, 379 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:26,680 and how boredness is everything, it' s not at all something you have 380 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,559 to do in a way, because that' s you have to get bored, 381 00:25:32,319 --> 00:25:36,400 not and all the consequences that boredom has on the elderly, our elders, 382 00:25:36,799 --> 00:25:41,559 I mean, that we change the chip many times when we give the 383 00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:45,839 messages that we release them. So, like that one that so pretty of 384 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:52,279 the children of the Siricon Valley have no screens that we have you know so, 385 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,880 yes, yes, the headlines that also work for us and we are 386 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,440 not even convinced that it is so or not because we have heard them. 387 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:07,759 Of boredom it is necessary, because there are people who are sick of boredom 388 00:26:07,839 --> 00:26:17,039 and the elderly are precisely a sector very vulnerable to boredom and why it is 389 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,200 not necessary to turn many times. I always highly recommend the book of sickness, 390 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:25,240 boredom, the guest of mother space, a sphere that is a philosopher 391 00:26:25,559 --> 00:26:32,240 from a historical philosophical approach, a philosophical historical journey of boredom. How it 392 00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:40,279 has been lived during all super interesting times and how we are very conditioned by 393 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:45,200 our social historical context, evidently, and by our own perspective, And how 394 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,400 we see it and how the messages that have given us condition us. It 395 00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:51,880 ' s a message of nothing. This is really good to get bored. 396 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,880 Well, it depends and depends on what I answer, what person, what 397 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,279 situation and what it involves and what it is not worth. It' s 398 00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:03,519 not such a message that it' s valid for everyone. Yes, I 399 00:27:03,599 --> 00:27:06,960 was thinking that when it comes to anticipating it is also important to anticipate emotional 400 00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:08,039 states, that is, not only what we find physically, but what we 401 00:27:08,039 --> 00:27:14,079 can feel in order to see what solutions we can previously carry out at that 402 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,599 time. Because, because that may wait a long time, we may wait 403 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,839 a little, the time that is little to you may be done a lot. 404 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,880 Then what are you going to feel there and what are we going to 405 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,200 do every moment. I also see that as quite necessary when it comes to 406 00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:36,079 verbalizing it in those moments and those of us who foresee that we are going 407 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,519 to be bored And what about this that when you have practiced this a lot 408 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,039 and suddenly there comes a situation in which there is a boredom, be a 409 00:27:42,079 --> 00:27:48,799 long time in which you don' t know what to do like this suddenly 410 00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:52,839 and you haven' t worked it out if you and you have already put 411 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,480 it into practice in other times, because we simply rescue the power of remembrance, 412 00:27:57,799 --> 00:28:03,400 which is when we did this, because we are going to do something 413 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:03,960 similar that happens like that moment, then the power of remembrance. In addition, 414 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,440 we generate the same, if I missed a pleasant moment at the physiological 415 00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:11,839 level, we generate the same sensation by remembering it or even better if we 416 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:17,680 have idealized it, even because it gives us like that high. So we 417 00:28:17,759 --> 00:28:22,400 have that magic wand, that briefcase, that medicine kit to recover solutions that 418 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,240 we' ve already put into practice. But in the end, like everything 419 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,599 else, it' s a training, you have to train. Yes, 420 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:32,519 and this isn' t about not giving room to the one who doesn' 421 00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:36,519 t have to do anything and you have to hope that I believe the key 422 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:41,440 is in balance, because we can' t go to forgive that situation we 423 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,160 were doing either. We' re in the doctor' s waiting room, 424 00:28:44,839 --> 00:28:47,920 which is one of the questions we were asked, and then, of course, 425 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,519 I' ve been on a battery for the first fifteen minutes, we 426 00:28:51,559 --> 00:28:56,279 paint the next fifteen minutes, we do a puzzle and then we play a 427 00:28:56,279 --> 00:28:57,240 game for the next fifteen minutes is not that. I mean, there' 428 00:28:57,279 --> 00:29:00,599 s a time. We' re going from calm as much as we can 429 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,960 and well, we' re here waiting. We can be chatting about what 430 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,839 ' s going on. Many times I' ve seen it. Don' 431 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,279 t sit down, the person who accompanies the child pulls out the cell phone 432 00:29:10,279 --> 00:29:15,039 and the pe that is talking in the seat sitting and at twenty- five 433 00:29:15,119 --> 00:29:22,759 seconds thirty starts to climb up and get out of the chair and stops and 434 00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:26,160 you continue with the mobile to call us and you continue, that is, 435 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,759 you are entertaining or solving a brown job. I don' t care. 436 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,119 But the other person has to be meditating, that is to say, it 437 00:29:33,119 --> 00:29:37,680 affects calm harmony there in a situation that, besides, is usually not pleasant 438 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,480 because the girls, boys know that when they go to the doctor, because 439 00:29:41,519 --> 00:29:44,200 it is not that they go to another, to an amusement park that although 440 00:29:44,279 --> 00:29:45,680 there is no pain and not such, but it is a situation that everyone 441 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,960 is uncomfortable, because it exposes us, it generates a vulnerability, because you 442 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,480 are sick, that is, I mean that you are not at your best 443 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,720 either. I think that to do that reflection is simply to hear, because 444 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,039 at that moment it is to look. I' ll take the phone you, 445 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,720 you want to carry a book. Hey, not that you sit down 446 00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:03,480 and climb up and get off twice as cool ass. It is not about 447 00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:07,240 going to the other side, if it is about having been able to choose 448 00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:11,720 look between a book, between this story and this story, between two pencils 449 00:30:11,839 --> 00:30:15,559 to paint or some stickers to put in a notebook. There are many simple 450 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,960 things that can give us those clues and then understand what their times are that 451 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,640 they have to learn. I' m just waiting and I' m saying, 452 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,599 you have to learn between two, three, four minutes, a little 453 00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:30,839 smaller, we can have it there. If we see that that' s 454 00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:33,640 going to go the same way, I' ve just done it. When 455 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,240 sickness comes out, I say sorry there are still these people. Yeah, 456 00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:41,359 well, I calculate and say five people for five minutes, twenty- five 457 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,200 I go out for fifteen minutes and I still have ten left to be inside. 458 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,039 But for me to be in there for twenty- five minutes, there 459 00:30:48,279 --> 00:30:48,559 ' s no point out anything outside. I' m staying at the door. 460 00:30:48,599 --> 00:30:52,279 At the door I can move, I can jump, I can climb 461 00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:53,640 up and down a curb. To be just doing nothing. I mean, 462 00:30:55,039 --> 00:30:57,200 it' s being that you don' t have to be entertaining at that 463 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,039 moment or creating a game. But I' ve already created a different situation 464 00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:03,400 where there' s a movement and so listen Mira. Now, when the 465 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,079 clock comes to this arrow or if you know the hours, we have to 466 00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:10,559 go back inside and see how the room is. Hey, so, look, 467 00:31:10,599 --> 00:31:12,759 I' ve calculated five minutes. They' ve been super fast. 468 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,599 You' ve lost your turn. Man, if you' re a little 469 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,000 bit to say you' re calculating, then multiply me by three minutes. 470 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,000 I mean, look, there' s still a lot left, because you 471 00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:25,160 can see it' s getting longer. You want to go out another bit. 472 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,759 We stayed five minutes waiting in here. For me it is to accompany, 473 00:31:29,119 --> 00:31:33,880 but as we would do with whatever you said, any other person and 474 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,680 understanding it from there, yes, it still tells you and you have bored, 475 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,640 yes, of course. All he' s doing is entertaining time. 476 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,200 I wasn' t doing anything super creative or that I wanted either, because 477 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,720 it' s that I' m gaining a space that I' m just 478 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,400 like playing legos, not that little ones don' t have this capacity that 479 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,279 we think is creative. As suddenly I' m going to sit like this 480 00:31:56,319 --> 00:32:00,359 a philosopher about a story you said no to and make the short film of 481 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:05,519 my life that I' m going to get there a bigger oscar. Yeah, 482 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,480 and there you can play. There are stories to create, that is, 483 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:14,559 it depends on age. We do the sequence and on topics of pre 484 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,559 - adolescence, of adolescence, sometimes they are very good spaces to talk, 485 00:32:17,759 --> 00:32:22,519 because you have no other left to be. Then taking advantage of it is 486 00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:23,880 an opportunity. If you' re there, you have to be thirty- 487 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:28,519 five minutes waiting for the dentist is that even if I want to be with 488 00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:31,599 the mole jo and you show me what you' re doing, because this 489 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,799 youtuber seems super interesting to me what game you' re playing at now you 490 00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:38,720 want to talk about, which is that maybe you take out a date that 491 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:39,440 you thank the dentist that is delaying you, because it forces you to be 492 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,480 then. If we see it as a value, it is no longer a 493 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,200 burden. I think those moments are like looking for your own solutions and the 494 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:52,039 backpack of resources come on. I have always taken it and today I carry 495 00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:55,559 a deck of Pokémon that people know and on top it becomes a special moment, 496 00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,200 because I only take it out at that moment where I say hear Juan 497 00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:02,400 you fancy a game of Pokémon, then it is something that I did before. 498 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,720 As wa is a resource that is not elsewhere. He' s at 499 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,559 this moment of tension. I' m going to ask a question to see 500 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:14,279 if you have it, because I remember. I have in my head the 501 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:20,559 memory of my mother' s purse, which was the treasure drawer. Practically 502 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,200 when we went somewhere and kept waiting, my mother would leave me or not 503 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:35,160 give it to investigate. You know clearly what my mother had in her purse, 504 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,640 but it' s not like my mother did it with a what kind 505 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:44,240 of pedagogical resources. I' ve read in the news letter, because we 506 00:33:44,279 --> 00:33:51,559 already know that there was no such awareness. But it was how come take 507 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:57,519 and for me, as a creature to life wanting to do things and you 508 00:33:57,599 --> 00:34:00,839 can' t, because that' s another one that context doesn' t 509 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,440 allow you or people allow you to do what, as a creature, you 510 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,519 want to do, which is to climb up the windows, throw yourself for 511 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:15,000 that, as a boy or girl you are, you want to do things 512 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:19,880 that like every creature, but well, suddenly you get a bag of treasures 513 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,840 and you dedicate yourself to exploring. Another thing is that then they tell you 514 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,480 don' t start stirring my purse. It is not clear that we demand 515 00:34:25,559 --> 00:34:30,719 that the creatures know how to be bored, but we do not let them 516 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:36,320 overstep. What for them is play and clear and explore and good and play 517 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,119 and be boys and girls. Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, me. 518 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:44,480 I loved taking out what they say wide the prices of the wallet the 519 00:34:44,559 --> 00:34:47,159 photos or I don' t know why they were all kept, they kept 520 00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:50,519 everyone from having one there from the butcher shop three months ago, because I, 521 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:53,079 suddenly I will find you and it was like cat and I placed them 522 00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:54,119 and I don' t know what took out the keys and he doesn' 523 00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:58,280 t know what. Me, man, and that' s a very big 524 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,760 deal. I mean it' s within reach, those things that papyroflexia with 525 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:07,559 purchase tickets me because there are times I don' t have the backpack. 526 00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:12,920 Not really And well, depending on the temperament of each pe that if you 527 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:19,039 need as much activity, because it is that clear topic also that is left, 528 00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:24,800 because then the moment of the boys bother and the girls bother, they 529 00:35:25,679 --> 00:35:30,559 are not allowed to do anything. Yeah, so there' s that they 530 00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:37,599 need, anyway, more resources and it' s the plane tickets later, 531 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:43,559 as well as practical resources that in common situations that can happen to us is 532 00:35:43,559 --> 00:35:45,440 the typical family reunion where you' re going to eat at a restaurant and 533 00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:49,599 implode everything not and then there are trials around that we talk about it. 534 00:35:50,239 --> 00:36:00,760 We remember the previous podcast always familiar is to listen always at any time of 535 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,320 the year, and the theme of going to a restaurant that well, depending 536 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,480 on where you go, is a zero home adapted for children' s needs. 537 00:36:08,039 --> 00:36:14,639 And we got here, we sat down, we waited for the cards, 538 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:19,480 we decided to eat seventeen people or five, and we waited for them 539 00:36:19,559 --> 00:36:21,519 to bring the food and all that, the girl and the children sitting down. 540 00:36:22,199 --> 00:36:25,719 So we do what we do in my family, so, if it 541 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,039 can serve as resources, we go to the street or to a place where 542 00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:35,440 we see that they can explore, that they can expand and like the technology 543 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,719 for that, so it' s a great ally. We send the letter 544 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:44,679 by wa and then we order, because I want this and when the food, 545 00:36:45,039 --> 00:36:50,519 when they start to bring the called food and we sit, wash our 546 00:36:50,559 --> 00:36:53,559 hands and sit down then it is a way of that time that it can 547 00:36:53,639 --> 00:37:00,480 be super tedious and boring to get right to the time of eating that, 548 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,880 besides, if there is hunger, if there is fatigue, because the reactions 549 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,519 may be more reactivity. And of course, what we put on is to 550 00:37:08,599 --> 00:37:14,000 stop today to that cansion and that it is of the tables that I like 551 00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:17,719 almost even more than the previous ones, because the previous ones, well sometimes 552 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,519 they are there with the illusion just sat down. I don' t know 553 00:37:21,519 --> 00:37:24,440 what. Sometimes they get the letter a few pinturitas somewhere, that' s 554 00:37:24,519 --> 00:37:29,599 good. But there comes that moment where they have finished eating that also usually 555 00:37:29,639 --> 00:37:35,920 end before many times and there are the coffee desserts the cup and talk about 556 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:42,039 the presentation of x the Senate that has been this week. And of course 557 00:37:42,559 --> 00:37:46,559 there for me that is the Caldito where I suddenly get bored when we are 558 00:37:46,639 --> 00:37:51,599 going to see that it is that ends then I say the is that for 559 00:37:51,639 --> 00:37:54,920 what we have met with your uncles created you yes, at that moment the 560 00:37:54,960 --> 00:38:00,559 adult bets are to frame eh, of course I love them. I, 561 00:38:00,599 --> 00:38:02,800 in fact, sometimes I' m in there just like that and I' 562 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,599 m saying I' m having such a good time. I' m having 563 00:38:05,639 --> 00:38:07,440 a better time with those on the table talking than mine, because mine' 564 00:38:07,559 --> 00:38:10,000 s boring, but I' m not saying it, I' m shutting 565 00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:15,159 it up, but I' m bored. When we go at the end, 566 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:16,480 you' re going to buy me the ice cream, because then there 567 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:21,119 are these things you eat you say in the afternoon there is an ice cream 568 00:38:21,159 --> 00:38:24,960 already, but in the afternoon when it' s because it' s been 569 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:25,360 a long time and you' re going to buy me the ice cream already. 570 00:38:25,519 --> 00:38:29,480 Wait a bit how many, a little bit, then the child returns 571 00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:31,440 to the chair, turns around, takes the napkin to the spear. I 572 00:38:31,519 --> 00:38:36,039 don' t know what. If there are several. It' s already 573 00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:39,039 starting a little bit, now, a little more party, because of course 574 00:38:39,159 --> 00:38:40,800 the movement is going up. You' re gonna throw the glass away. 575 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:45,599 You just can' t stand still. It' s not, but of 576 00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:50,239 course I, as an adult, have come to be at dinners or meals 577 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,280 that I' m bored with an oyster and it' s telling me I 578 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,679 ' m going to the service for a moment, I go to the bathroom, 579 00:38:58,119 --> 00:39:00,239 I lean on the sink, I take off my cell phone and I 580 00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:02,639 ' m there for a while and when I say it, Joe, a 581 00:39:02,639 --> 00:39:05,719 tremendous number of people. I' m sorry for the people who at some 582 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,599 point have lived with me a dinner, a meal of these, because, 583 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,119 but I mean, as adults, it' s really good that you' 584 00:39:13,199 --> 00:39:16,039 re bored what' s going on, that we have a strategy and we 585 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:22,159 say what I do, because today I' m called by xaci phones you 586 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:22,960 don' t look or you leave or you have the ability to say good 587 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:23,880 look, because listen I' m bored. We came here. I know 588 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,960 it' s like this, because whatever it is, come on, I 589 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,880 get hooked up in the conversation, but that' s how you' ve 590 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,639 been through it. Super good, super good, no, no, no, 591 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,920 no, I didn' t have a good time? Then we ask 592 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,119 them, as an eye upon which we have come and besides, have you 593 00:39:37,159 --> 00:39:39,159 asked what you have wanted for food, have you not had a good time? 594 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,840 Well, no, I haven' t had a good time? And 595 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,559 that acceptance is from the adult, not from what we have to transform the 596 00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:50,320 child who we walk like selling him a motorcycle so we come to a restaurant 597 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:51,840 and you have been able to choose, didn' t you have fun? 598 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:53,880 And don' t let it happen to me in adults. It is that 599 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:59,480 in the end it is many times the fear of the adult who is going 600 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:00,400 to be bored or, that is, on the one hand, on the 601 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,880 one end or on the other, that sometimes we put the band- aid 602 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:08,679 before the wound, that we anticipate that they will be bored mogollón in this 603 00:40:08,679 --> 00:40:12,519 anticipation sometimes we go too far. I also sometimes don' t think because 604 00:40:12,559 --> 00:40:20,039 we don' t leave room for them either, well, because they really 605 00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:24,159 feel it we don' t give them everything ready anymore and we already directly 606 00:40:24,199 --> 00:40:27,679 sit it down and we already put the screen in front of them, which 607 00:40:27,679 --> 00:40:29,960 also happens. It' s not that he' s gonna get bored, 608 00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:32,480 but you haven' t let the kid sit down. I mean, that 609 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:37,400 ' s it or that' s it, or that they already have it 610 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,280 mechanized, because I see it a lot the moment they sit on top of 611 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:44,480 it, too. Yeah, it' s not like a situation association, 612 00:40:44,679 --> 00:40:45,760 yeah, it' s resource. Well, that' s just not how 613 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,880 I ride the chicken. Or so I take it off and it' s 614 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,480 true. It' s true, I mean, I don' t judge 615 00:40:54,519 --> 00:41:00,760 situations, but it' s true that we' ve internalized it, that 616 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,159 we' re the adults who put those resources in front of them, because 617 00:41:04,159 --> 00:41:05,000 we didn' t want it to be the montén. We don' t 618 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:09,920 want them to give us the can or we don' t know or we 619 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:15,840 don' t know, we don' t have that notion of what you 620 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:15,960 can take them outside, that it' s not that space for those kids 621 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:21,559 at the time. And basically it' s working creativity. Also very clear 622 00:41:21,639 --> 00:41:25,400 people, because if we see the resources and see what we have, because 623 00:41:25,679 --> 00:41:30,039 it is a previous exercise of adult creativity with what we have, I know 624 00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:35,280 from the sugars, cut the drawings, play with the bases, yes, 625 00:41:35,639 --> 00:41:37,280 the more, play a little, play with the bears, the sugars, 626 00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:42,760 all that type of napkins and you suck it can stick in many parts of 627 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,400 the body. So it' s a really fun way to start another game. 628 00:41:47,039 --> 00:41:51,360 The thing is, we have to see the kids. There are little 629 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,039 strollers and I already shut up girls in little strollers with mobile phones, posts 630 00:41:55,079 --> 00:42:01,519 that you say no yes, this is where I' m already getting out 631 00:42:01,519 --> 00:42:07,280 of the world. Either the part of or we don' t want the 632 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,760 kids to be bored, is that we want them to explore and see the 633 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:14,079 world that' s not the same as I know they' re bored, 634 00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:17,599 they' re going to get bored, that' s where I make that 635 00:42:17,639 --> 00:42:21,920 differentiation that we put in the sack of getting bored a lot of things that 636 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,199 aren' t boring. Yes, and above all, we have talked about 637 00:42:23,199 --> 00:42:27,360 smaller ones, that is, I am entertaining them, because that with the 638 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,320 sugars, with the games. But there is also an age where the key 639 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:36,400 is that they are part of the conversation, that we have to isolate them 640 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,679 immediately, that is, when they are more young, two three, four 641 00:42:38,679 --> 00:42:42,480 years, because men can be part of the conversation for a while because you 642 00:42:42,559 --> 00:42:45,000 can ask them something they like, what they have done to play the stories. 643 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,599 But when they are older, they also like it for such in conversations 644 00:42:49,599 --> 00:42:53,719 and we have to give them a voice and obviously even more. I mean, 645 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,679 I' m already talking about even how old I might be. They 646 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,920 play eleven years old, they start to have their opinions about politics, the 647 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:06,360 economy, social injustices and it' s super valuable to give them that space. 648 00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:12,400 So, in this case that we were talking about the tabletops, we 649 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,639 were simply introducing them into what is to be heard and so on. We 650 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,519 can' t pretend to have a one- and- a- half- 651 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,000 hour philosophical conversation about anything. No, but the other day there was some 652 00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:27,119 news coming out here at the TV station and Juan was already saying, but 653 00:43:27,159 --> 00:43:29,880 then here they' re spending more money on this. And we had a 654 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,559 conversation about what he thought, plus he obviously did it from his criteria and 655 00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:36,760 his knowledge, in which there is a pattern that for me is main. 656 00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:39,119 It' s not about you taking the reason out of him by saying no. 657 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,920 No. No, man, you don' t know anything about p 658 00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:43,480 and b that you' re gonna tell me now that he' s coming. 659 00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,239 It' s about giving him that voice to be part of that space. 660 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:51,920 And there we are also managing that in a moment it has given pass, 661 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:52,559 because what happens to us after car. I mean, well, this 662 00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:54,880 isn' t what I like most, but I' m able to get 663 00:43:54,880 --> 00:44:00,119 into the conversation, make my opinion heard, keep a limit on respecting, 664 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,960 that is, there are other variables that are in the game, because I 665 00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:07,480 think that if it' s baby, very baby, we understand that it 666 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:08,920 gets crying and I don' t know what, and the whole family reads 667 00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,840 curl to try to entertain him. If he' s smaller, I don 668 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,000 ' t know what. Well it depends, but then there' s an 669 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:20,320 intermediate age that' s neither the one nor the other, which is that 670 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:22,880 he' s getting bored and that' s why he wants his cell phone, 671 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,239 but that' s because you haven' t tried to give him space 672 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:25,679 and then we want him to stretch out. And there' s just times 673 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,000 when you don' t even have to take a whore with you. I 674 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,039 mean, I mean, they' re already at another age. Or, 675 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,719 you can take a board game a little more, because it' s a 676 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:37,559 virus, a double something like that and someone, because you' re going 677 00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:39,679 to have to play with the table. But because I played parchis with my 678 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,960 grandmother, too. So that' s what you were saying. For me 679 00:44:44,039 --> 00:44:49,360 it is balancing the needs of all the people who are there understanding that it 680 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,039 is not like forcing boredom, you have to bore boredom is there, sometimes 681 00:44:52,039 --> 00:44:54,159 you will have to accept it. And you' re getting bored, you 682 00:44:54,159 --> 00:44:57,119 ' re getting bored. We' re going to accept it, we' 683 00:44:57,199 --> 00:45:00,840 re going to accompany it, we' re going to put words in it, 684 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,280 we' re going to put emotion in it, and it' s 685 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:05,920 going to happen just like happiness happens and all the other things happen. But 686 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,159 I think that always for me, in boredom, look, it' s 687 00:45:08,199 --> 00:45:13,800 always from the adult of this how I would interpret it and from there to 688 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,519 how I take it to him, because if I don' t see myself 689 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,400 in me, if I don' t see that I' m bored in 690 00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,159 a meal. I' m not gonna understand that you' re bored. 691 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,239 But of course, when I see myself and I' m filling up on 692 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,559 my cell phone, I understand that you' re giving the ember. I 693 00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:28,159 mean, I can make that analogy and they put me in your shoes. 694 00:45:28,599 --> 00:45:30,239 Then we are also asked about long evenings at home. I don' t 695 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:36,440 know if it gives us time and car rides that to me car rides seem 696 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,719 the funniest thing in the universe. I have to say, I mean, 697 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,360 we in the car are happy. We really send ourselves in the car and 698 00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,519 we' re super happy. The three of us have a thousand games. 699 00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:46,639 It' s just that the car is moving. Then the car starts me 700 00:45:46,679 --> 00:45:52,480 hilariously. But already clear there I am already very biased with that it is 701 00:45:52,519 --> 00:46:00,000 movement and it is travel a car super fun space, is that think are 702 00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:07,679 small, yours is still that it influences a lot, it smelled a lot 703 00:46:07,679 --> 00:46:13,320 and I also have, that is I have bored a lot in the car, 704 00:46:13,679 --> 00:46:15,559 but as a small and I mean, now I value very much to 705 00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:20,239 it I enjoy it very much my trips by car, but because life is 706 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:25,840 the one that is and I value very much that moment of I am like 707 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:30,159 in limbo, not but as a small one. I' m bored sovereignly 708 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:34,800 and I' ve swallowed a lot of smoke on top because before you could 709 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:39,800 smoke in cars, so fabric and good I value now as an adult very 710 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:45,239 much. And I understand that children can get bored and I understand that it 711 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:52,360 ' s a critical moment that we really have to turn it around and not 712 00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:57,960 give in to the resource, because not because I value other things, the 713 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,199 easy resource of the screen. I' m sorry. I' m not 714 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:07,559 screenproof at all, but in the real car you can. It is not 715 00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:12,199 mandatory not to put them, but I think there are times when they can 716 00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,440 be used with a little bit maybe, a long trip, a movie that 717 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:20,599 they have prepared they have also chosen and they have been participants in this process. 718 00:47:21,639 --> 00:47:25,639 One not all the trip and there are moments to look outside, that 719 00:47:25,679 --> 00:47:30,880 is to say, but as a family I use good technology as well, 720 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:36,760 but not as a visual challenge, but of course, today, podcasts, 721 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:45,039 we pull a lot of that and in the end, entertainment is there. 722 00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:47,760 It is not up to you either, because if you are tired, I 723 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:52,039 understand that in the end there is also an adult tiredness and that, then, 724 00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:53,360 that need to rest you have to satisfy. But that' s why 725 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:59,960 we' re going to take advantage of a midpoint, like it can be 726 00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:05,320 an audio story when a podcast, when you' re older, I mess 727 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,519 with the arevalo jokes I mean and not to see I carry my backpack and 728 00:48:07,519 --> 00:48:12,559 what trauma you look at as a landlady. But I mean you don' 729 00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:15,480 t have to listen all the time, sing games, which is something that 730 00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:17,880 when we become fathers and mothers, we also have there as well as above. 731 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,920 Not all we have to put on is children' s music, because 732 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,840 they' re listening to us in the car. You can' t put 733 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:30,599 something on for you too mother father you listen to us, you can listen 734 00:48:30,679 --> 00:48:34,519 to your music and they can like it too. You know, you don 735 00:48:34,639 --> 00:48:37,039 ' t have to focus just on that music that you end up hating. 736 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:43,079 So, we look at a game we have, which is that it' 737 00:48:43,119 --> 00:48:46,000 s the one we always do as the first we pull is the easiest. 738 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:51,639 It is the DJ game that we are until we see that it stops working 739 00:48:51,679 --> 00:48:55,119 by choosing a song, that is, the co- driver makes dj Iva 740 00:48:55,159 --> 00:48:59,719 choosing a song. But that we like it and also there we have opportunities 741 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:01,679 work to tolerance equal to IT you don' t like much, but I 742 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,960 do and I also have the right to listen to what I like, because 743 00:49:06,119 --> 00:49:08,920 we are more families. Try to find what we' re in. Of 744 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,920 course it is, the one thing, of course it is, and I 745 00:49:13,039 --> 00:49:17,280 demand a lot of that and give them your music and that not only is 746 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:21,840 it not the tyranny that I am to us. Well, we had crackle 747 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:28,400 tapes. I don' t know if Arancha you' re younger, but 748 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:36,360 Cristina Morilas seemed to me to have an archdu country there was another, but 749 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:37,760 now I don' t remember. We had, that is, my parents 750 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:44,599 made that effort and I had sua either had a tape of it there were 751 00:49:44,639 --> 00:49:50,800 things that I was in our time, so before I didn' t think 752 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,840 about childhood. We also had content for boys and girls, but my parents 753 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:59,800 were not perioved either, and I think it' s good for him to 754 00:50:00,199 --> 00:50:04,360 put his sworn dew over them that I' m not my sister and I 755 00:50:04,519 --> 00:50:07,920 sang Pinpinela, that is, and I live it as good, because it 756 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:07,519 ' s what' s there and nothing happened. I mean, we have 757 00:50:07,679 --> 00:50:14,800 to do a little bit. For me it' s a ro to integrate 758 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:17,320 the family and you know how well we didn' t have it and then 759 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:22,199 we did theaters and my sister and I did the so that we did performances, 760 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:28,199 so I think it' s a bit of a balance and that we 761 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:35,000 don' t just put childish content, because you end up, it' 762 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,159 s not healthy, that is for our adult mind, then we' re 763 00:50:37,159 --> 00:50:37,400 frustrated and frustrated because we don' t have time for ourselves. Well, 764 00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:42,599 then, also put on that song that you love and share it with your 765 00:50:42,599 --> 00:50:45,920 family, that at some point you will share it with your sons and your 766 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:51,360 daughters too then I think that in the end is finding there the balance between 767 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:57,360 music that they may like and that you will like it too. No yes, 768 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,440 and besides that, that when they are older as their musical tastes, 769 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:06,800 it can give us a lot of play to those conversations that we sometimes seek 770 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,360 and that we still do not have in the day to day, therefore that 771 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,760 you like, not because you have chosen me a singer because you like and 772 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:12,960 who it is and we will talk about it. And so it' s 773 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,719 not about playing a song for you either. The next one sometimes leads to 774 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:20,519 an intermediate conversation. I mean, there' s a lot that can happen 775 00:51:20,519 --> 00:51:27,880 inside a car, sorry. There' s Mother Monica, right now America 776 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:35,000 and then I' m going to bring the dog. And that' s 777 00:51:35,039 --> 00:51:37,719 where I mean it' s not about entertaining the whole trip either. It 778 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,719 ' s about playing with all the resources to know how long that trip takes, 779 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,480 that is, that' s where your adult look is. It' 780 00:51:42,559 --> 00:51:45,599 s not the same going from here to Paris, which I drove. You 781 00:51:45,679 --> 00:51:46,920 know it' s going to be ten twelve hours, you' re going 782 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,920 to be driving all day, you have to play with a lot of resources. 783 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:52,719 ' Cause you know you' re gonna have to put the movie in 784 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,000 ' cause yeah,' cause you know you' re gonna have to take 785 00:51:55,119 --> 00:51:58,760 a nap,' cause yeah,' cause you know you' re gonna 786 00:51:58,800 --> 00:51:59,079 have to stop at five parks,' cause yeah, you say that. 787 00:51:59,079 --> 00:52:00,719 No, because we go here thirty- five minutes to the village next door 788 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,840 and as you sit down, I put the tablet look from here thirty- 789 00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:07,719 five minutes away. There' s a lot of margins. It' s 790 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,840 that conversation itself. For me it is magical, that is to say, 791 00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:15,679 to give space to the conversation, it is already a value and it is 792 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:17,519 to talk about what has happened to you and they like to listen as well. 793 00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:22,199 Sometimes they just listen a little older, because look, yesterday, when 794 00:52:22,199 --> 00:52:23,679 it comes from the office, it happens or I don' t know what 795 00:52:23,679 --> 00:52:24,960 or vital, I don' t know what and you' re telling it. 796 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,800 It doesn' t have to be a subject you know they still can 797 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,800 ' t hear it from. I' m talking about general topics, because 798 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:36,480 look, this morning I' ve been recording the podcast with Arancha and Monica 799 00:52:36,639 --> 00:52:40,239 who has been liking it because, look, we' ve had a lot 800 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:43,119 of fun and I' ve already started asking and what that is and why. 801 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,320 And you' ve eaten twenty minutes of clockwork, which means you don 802 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:50,079 ' t have to do anything but be with the person and accompany her, 803 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,800 which we can' t fall into. Ah that you are boring, because 804 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,920 very well it comes to you, because so you think about something that all 805 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:59,400 day long here with nonsense, because having caught a toy, I don' 806 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,199 t know why you haven' t fucked it is that you don' t 807 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:05,719 know how to get bored and you throw thirty- five minutes like this and 808 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,639 then you come ah you say you' re not liking the museum, because 809 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,599 obviously not, if it takes thirty- five minutes that you' re crushing 810 00:53:12,599 --> 00:53:13,079 me ah because look we have forgotten to take a toy. In fact, 811 00:53:13,159 --> 00:53:16,280 we in the car have a backpack of toys, of good support, of 812 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:22,639 toys or of things that suddenly there is a pineapple or that a cape of 813 00:53:22,679 --> 00:53:27,280 any inside supermarket look another game that we have to share, we call it 814 00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:31,880 the auctions that we started to play when Juan already had gual six or seven 815 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:36,559 years, He price, that is, says cheese goes with a catalog of 816 00:53:36,599 --> 00:53:40,239 these from any supermarket and says that that a cure. I don' t 817 00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,400 know what output price two with seventy- four that' s what I put 818 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,360 in. So each of us has a price that Jorge and I have given 819 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:51,960 us fifty euros. And the game consists of auctioning up and seeing who gets 820 00:53:52,039 --> 00:53:55,440 more products, spending as little money as possible. And he goes with his 821 00:53:55,519 --> 00:53:59,800 notebook and tells us three with twenty- seven, then he goes making sums. 822 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:02,760 And of course, we happen to you between you are grown up, 823 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,760 between us we itch from the one that you have taken the cheese from me, 824 00:54:07,039 --> 00:54:12,159 because you will see, when a ham comes out I want it and 825 00:54:12,199 --> 00:54:13,480 even croquettes from I don' t know what I happen that this is a 826 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,039 prefabricated. I don' t want it, I don' t want it 827 00:54:16,039 --> 00:54:16,679 and your dad, you want it, you don' t know what. 828 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:21,519 And there' s game and you see c that' s a catalog and 829 00:54:21,559 --> 00:54:23,079 a notebook and a pen. There' s no more and at times we 830 00:54:23,079 --> 00:54:24,880 say look too. We' re tired. Let' s put on a 831 00:54:25,639 --> 00:54:29,199 podcast, well, because you choose a podcast from here we' re trivia 832 00:54:29,199 --> 00:54:31,039 kids. They hear it perfect that then they learn it and not John sometimes 833 00:54:31,039 --> 00:54:34,639 tells me because You have made dangers. It' s true. Don' 834 00:54:34,679 --> 00:54:38,639 t get your podcasts heard before if I' m better, Mom, you 835 00:54:38,679 --> 00:54:44,119 ' ve pruned a lot. One very important thing that I don' t 836 00:54:44,119 --> 00:54:46,920 want to forget about the car and leisure and boredom very careful with the objects 837 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:52,760 that we carry inside the car loose is fine because we think it' s 838 00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:57,719 an attraction park is the car. You have to be very careful with the 839 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,760 things that are loose and that when smaller we put everything good in thinking, 840 00:55:02,119 --> 00:55:08,119 we will always use and such in a net behind the seat that there are 841 00:55:08,199 --> 00:55:14,039 colored in a backpack despno three, because all projects, that is, every 842 00:55:14,199 --> 00:55:19,440 loose object in the car is a potential projectile and has slow consequences. Okay 843 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:24,320 then. This is very important. Security issue. Recent mother parents who are 844 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,559 watching how to entertain the boys in the car, the girls all well- 845 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:34,719 kept and keep them from moving. And especially with the theme of screens that 846 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,880 sometimes give them to your hand. And that' s what I mean. 847 00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:42,360 I mean, it' s not the same thing as a light- bunch, 848 00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,320 not a screen that we give them to your hands sometimes. There are, 849 00:55:45,519 --> 00:55:47,639 please, fastening systems, but very well isolated, because that is approved, 850 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:53,719 even on the shoulder and safe, where I have seen that and they 851 00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:58,039 give them the screen by hand. It' s very important. We have 852 00:55:58,119 --> 00:56:04,280 a podcast on car accessories. With countermatch precisely on this subject, because we 853 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,079 think that everything is worth and we have to be very careful, because then, 854 00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:15,320 before a silly blow, the objects we have jump are released hard objects, 855 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,440 forceful that can cause injuries and we do not want. We don' 856 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:25,719 t want to, so leisure I' ll put it also because there was 857 00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:32,800 also a special chapter past. We focused precisely on devices to hold screens that 858 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:40,679 already have covers that are attached to the front headrests and that we have to 859 00:56:40,679 --> 00:56:45,400 have, that is to say, also to see that they are approved, 860 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,880 that they do not have parts, that is, all those things that nobody 861 00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,880 tells you and that you think that anything that you buy in the corner bazaar 862 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,280 is worth and that good idea. But eye, because then it has a 863 00:56:55,360 --> 00:57:00,199 return price. When you least expect it, then it is very useful to 864 00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:04,880 have that information and always, to turn what we put in the car it 865 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,360 is worth that many times it seems that the bazaar the car. I get 866 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:13,920 it, but you have to be careful and I don' t know if 867 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:20,480 there' s anything else left, and so far so good you know that 868 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:25,440 nothing happens, is that I would leave a reminder when you' re bored 869 00:57:25,519 --> 00:57:29,280 as an adult, think about what creative things you' re going to do 870 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:30,920 for when your children are bored. And that' s how you take the 871 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,719 time. You listened to the podcast of crafts too, because they talk a 872 00:57:34,719 --> 00:57:38,320 lot about creativity, which is a subject very related to boredom. These podcasts 873 00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:43,480 are very matriusque you don' t go talking about one thing and jump into 874 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:47,239 another and suddenly you come up with another. Of course I do, yes. 875 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,800 It' s just so, besides, when I talk to you, 876 00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,119 as long as you tell me the subject as ah okay, we can talk 877 00:57:53,119 --> 00:57:55,880 about this. But then, as you are suddenly speaking, other things are 878 00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,280 coming to you. And this is very related. Casually, on good morning, 879 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:07,239 Mother Sphere, we have episodes of everything yes always gives to recommend other 880 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:13,559 episodes or books or people we know, how nice, well we leave, 881 00:58:13,599 --> 00:58:17,800 that we return next month with another topic that you can ask us, okay, 882 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:25,000 that you can email us to inform Madrifera com or by social networks of 883 00:58:25,079 --> 00:58:30,920 our friends, Cristina and Arancha. Although Cristina is semi closing your Instagram account 884 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:37,679 a little if you see that it has no closed value, well, no 885 00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:40,760 good, there, there, we will not see what we do for a 886 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,760 moment. A little missing, well, it' s a little bit off. 887 00:58:44,679 --> 00:58:46,360 So, to Tope, plus, I' ve seen that you' 888 00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:52,840 re also collaborating with a true bookshop Ancha that is, yes, in fact, 889 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:58,880 I' m going to see you play Tope with you making it phenomenal 890 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,000 and more active. So great I will leave you the profiles, of course, 891 00:59:01,199 --> 00:59:06,519 as always of Cristina de Arancha and her personal projects, the magic school, 892 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:12,159 the new blog of Cristina Cristina López Hubierna. And, well, we 893 00:59:12,159 --> 00:59:16,519 ' re back next month with a new challenge, a new question, and 894 00:59:16,559 --> 00:59:20,280 it' s been a pleasure, as always, to talk to you and 895 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,519 be here with you girls. Thank you very much. See you next month 896 00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:25,199 and we, on good morning, more sphere, will be back with a 897 00:59:25,280 --> 01:00:07,840 new episode very soon. Bye Temente, tons, I don' t have 898 01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:07,840 your no te