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Dodger's on the air on A five
seventy today. So Rodney and I Aron

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with a bonus content podcast, and
we're doing it for you. Yes,

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yes, that's why we're going for
you. That's right. We know what

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you think. We hear it all
the time. We're killing it. We're

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killing it. Since we're killing it, we thought we gotta we got to

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be with you today at least for
a little bit. Yeah, we do,

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all right. Can I start with
something here? Uh, I got

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in trouble. I got in trouble. I got in trouble. No,

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no, no, stop it,
I got in trouble, trouble, I

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got in trouble. Oh yeah,
I really got in trouble, did you.

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That's a that's a I feel for
you because that's not a good feeling.

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I've been there several times in you
know, different situations and you feel

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like I'm in trouble. Yeah,
I got in trouble. I got in

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trouble. Okay, tell me tell
me how you got in trouble. Well,

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it's the kind of trouble that you've
gotten into. Oh, it's the

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kind of trouble that you've experienced that
you've shared. Okay, I know your

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wife listens to the show all the
time. Now, and I can raise

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the curtain a little bit because sometimes
we're in studios. Sometimes we're in different

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places. Yeah, well we're in
different places. We can see each other,

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so people think we're in the studio
together. Correct. I can also

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see your wife come running in from
the door over your shoulder, yes,

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right, and I can and I
can see her talking to you, or

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I can see in a break where
you turn your head right and you just

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start nodding and acknowledging. I've seen
that many times. Correct. All right,

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So yesterday I am sitting in the
house. I don't know, it's

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about six o'clock, maybe a little
earlier. My wife, Rachelle says,

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hey, you know I heard the
show today. I was in the car.

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I said, oh, good,
good, you know great. Now

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she doesn't listen often, because back
in the day she would listen all the

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time, and she would call me
and yell at me. I'm serious.

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Today I was working at a ticket
today, I said, Dodger Stadium is

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a dump and we should blow it
up. And then I did a segment

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called blow or no Blow. She
calls me in a break I pick up.

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I think oh, she thinks this
is funny. My ears were blistering

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after that phone call, because she
goes, that's where I grew up.

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Those are my childhood memories. What
the hell are you talking about? Don't

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do that again? All right,
no problem, So she says to me,

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yeah, I was listening to you
guys. I said, oh,

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great, good, good good.
She goes, what is your problem?

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I said, what do you mean? What is my problem? She goes,

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what is wrong with you? I
said about what? Don't you ever

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talk about the Kings like that again? Oh? Yeah, oh my god,

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She goes, don't you ever talk
about the Kings like that again?

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I said, well, I was
being honest. She goes, I don't

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care. I don't care if you're
being honest. I really don't care.

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Don't you do it? She was
serious. Don't you do it? She

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says, I don't care what you
say about anyone, anyone, because now

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she's upset, right now, she's
getting it. I don't even listen to

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you, guys. I don't even
listen to you, which of course she

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does, right, you know,
yes, yes, I don't even waste

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time with you too. But if
I do listen, I do want to

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say you ever do that again,
And she goes, I am serious,

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Fred, and I won't. I
won't. She's no, I'm not kidding.

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I'm not kidding, and then she
said this. She finished with this,

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So I may not listen every day
to you two, you know,

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because now you're in it two.
Yeah, of course right now. But

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it's your fault too. We're one, we're one. Yes, I may

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not listen to you too. But
I tell you this, I have people

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that to report to me. Uh
huh, uh huh. Somebody's listening.

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Somebody's listening. I will say,
Fred, you know and we all know

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that you you you love the Kings, you love hockey, and and we

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see your family goes to a lot
of the Yeah, they do. And

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you've always been a hockey fan and
and and a Kings fan. So I

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would say yesterday because they you know, we talked about their exit interviews and

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what they were talking about and the
future of the Kings, and you were

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not only verbally but visibly upset and
irritated by what you were hearing from the

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King's management. I was, And
and so from from that standpoint, if

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I'm on the other end and I'm
a King's fan, and I love my

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Kings, and I'm listening to you, especially if you're a family member,

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kind of get where she's coming from. Let me trying to get where she's

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coming from. Because you came at
the Kings yesterday a little bit at him

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a little bit, yeah, a
little bit, A little bit. You

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let him have it a little bit. They did not get a pass yesterday,

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and you know what what? All
right, let me just say this,

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where do we cross the line the
trip down the freeway when they were

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torrents going to callabasses? Yes,
all right, So I can't say another

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word. I'm done. Don't you
do it? I am You've already been

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worn. I have You've been worn. So if you cross that line again

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after you've been worn, I'm not
doing it. That's a real problem.

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Then you're in real trouble. Yeah, well, you know what, so

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were you? You didn't do anything. I'm aiding in a bed and I'm

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allowing you to do it. You
didn't even do anything, and you're in

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trouble. Guilty by association, that's
me, all right? So uh NBA

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playoffs, let's just touch on this. Okay. See last night lou Dort

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playing against Dallas Can I tell you
quick Blue Dort story? Yeah, because

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you know it. You're more intimate
with it because he's he played it there

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is on a State. Was there
for a minute, Okay, So Jack

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was there for a minute. And
the year they were recruiting lou Dort,

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the assistant coach at Rashan Bruno calls
me and he says, Hey, we're

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recruiting this kid out of Canada,
lou Dort. Can you do me a

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favor? And I said, what's
that? Can you sit on the set

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like at NBC in Los Angeles and
just say something like, hey, big

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news, lou Dort is coming to
America and word is he's going to end

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up at Arizona State. Okay,
So I did it for him, right,

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Okay, So they put that in
their presentation tape and they get lou

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Dort. Now when he gets here, everybody thinks this guy is a complete

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stud. And Jack told me last
night one time in practice once he had

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to play against lou Dort. He
said Dort flattened him like a pancake.

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He said he was a kid in
a man's body. And when I saw

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him play at Arizona State, he
was yeah, plays football on the basketball

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court. Yeah he does. Yeah, you know, so, so anyway,

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he plays this one year at a
issue. Everybody's excited. They think

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he's going to be drafted into the
NBA and he's not. He doesn't get

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picked. He goes to the draft, Bobby Hurley is there and you can

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see the visible disappointment because they're sitting
there waiting and he doesn't get picked.

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Anyway, he signs a two way
deal with Oklahoma City, right, or

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he signs a free agent deal with
Oklahoma City, and the rest is history.

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Once they got a look at this
guy and watch him play, and

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you always say this, you know, you gotta have some dog in you.

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He is the dog, yeah or
everybody. Yeah, so once they

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saw him, and now they signed
him to like a ninety million dollar deal,

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right, yeah, so he's the
real deal. And going into that

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game against Dallas, Lucas said,
there's one guy you don't want to defend

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you in the NBA one one,
and that guy's Lou Dort because he brings

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it every night. And boy did
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Yeah, you talk about being physical, and you mentioned it because you

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gave a little history about what he
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He's still that in the NBA,
and he plays an aggressive nineteen eighties and

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nineties style basketball where he's not afraid
to put his hands on he's not afraid

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to be physical, he's not afraid
to get in your face. And you

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know, what he did and how
he aggressively played Daunches last night was incredible

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and it showed it ended up.
I mean, Luca was frustrated, he

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couldn't get good shots off. He
was limping up and down the courts like

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he had been in a heavyweight fight
last night. And if going forward is

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going to be like that, then
Dallas is going to have their hands full.

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But he plays so aggressively. And
that being said, Fred a lot

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of people have been talking about how
the refs are swallowing their whistle in the

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playoffs. Now, you know,
like they've called it one way throughout the

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regular season, and now you get
to the postseason and they're letting things go

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and we're seeing guys act out about
it, Guys that normally get calls,

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you know, getting frustrated about it. Luca was frustrated last night. A

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lot of guys frustrated. Sjamal Murray
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thousand heat pads on the court.
I could not aren't calling anything. By

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the way, I could not believe
he was not suspended. I know they

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gave him are hundred thousand dollars,
Fine, no suspension, that's nothing.

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Yeah, that's ridiculous. I was
really surprised by that. I'm sorry,

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go ahead, and I just had
to say that. And I'm not you

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know, no, on that topic. I'm not for guys getting suspended,

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especially in the playoffs. You know, you want to be at full strength.

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You want to see teams at their
full strength. But that what he

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did, throwing something on the court, that's unacceptable. That's unacceptable for the

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danger of the guys playing for your
own team. It was and it was

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an own teammate, Casey p who
picked it up and threw it off.

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I imagine if he steps on it
and rolls an anchor pulls a groin or

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whatever may happen, cannot do that. So yeah, I was shocked that

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he didn't get game or two.
Here's the thing about the officiating in the

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playoffs, and by the way,
they're letting it go until they don't.

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They're letting it happen until they don't
look at the screen. At the end

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of the Pacers Knicks game, they're
letting everything go until they don't right,

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which is a problem though, So
how are you gonna call it? And

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that's really the question. I like
letting the players decide the game. And

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honestly, the reason they cleaned it
up is because guys are just getting cold

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cocked and knocked all around. And
I mean it could have turned into brawls

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like back in the eighties when the
Lakers and Celtics played. But you have

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to be consistent in what you do. You have to be You can't sit

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there and turn around in the playoffs
and go all right, now we're gonna

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let it go. We're gonna let
you guys decide it. Well, what

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does that mean for the regular season
the officials decided it, not the players,

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what does it mean? And also
a problem in the playoffs. And

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if you watch the NBA, you
know they don't play any defense during the

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regular season. Now in the playoffs, everybody plays defense, right, So

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now it's going to get physical.
Now it's going to get really hard because

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they are up on you so and
they're going to use their bodies. There's

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got to be a consistent way to
do it. The problem with the NBA

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is the game is so fast and
so physical. Where do you draw the

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line. Where do you draw the
line as an official? Where do you

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draw the line as a league?
Well? Do you think that there was

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an official mandate coming down from Adam
Silver or the head of officials saying,

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hey, let's let them play a
little bit more in the playoffs, So

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it became a league wide situation in
the playoffs? You think that happened.

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I just think that's how they call
it in the playoffs. Is an unwritten

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rule? You think it's just individual
individual groups or individual referee teams got together

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and just did their own things that
we're going to call it a little bit,

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We're not going to call it so
tight. I think it's I think

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it's the unwritten rule. In the
Clipper series against Dallas, in that insanity,

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I mean, somebody should have been
arrested for what was going on in

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that series. Guys are flying all
over the place, ramming into each other,

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and Kyrie Irving has called for a
foul, a foul he committed,

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I might add, and he looks
up and I remember watching this, he

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goes, come on, man,
it's the playoffs. Here's the NBA playoffs.

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You can't call that now, you
can't. You either call it or

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you don't call it. Yeah.
The flip side of that, though,

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is is he may have said that, but they're guys getting away with certain

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things. Certain guys play a certain
way. James Harden played a certain way,

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right, he would get calls,
he would force the official to make

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calls and force fowls. Luca plays
that way. So if you play that

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way all season long and you're getting
those little tiki tach fowls that you draw

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a guy in and you're you know, you're getting a charge or you're getting

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a you know, and one,
and then those things are not called in

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the postseason, then then they become
very frustrating to you because like, Okay,

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this is the way I played all
season long, and now I'm not

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getting that call, and it's not
always easy for that player to adjust on

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the fly in one series, and
that seems to be a problem with some

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of these guys. I agree with
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the playoffs are a different animal,
but there needs to be a consistent way

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to officiate NBA basketball. You know
what, if you're gonna if you're gonna

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let it go into playoffs, let
it go in the regular season, right,

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let it go, let's mix it
up a little bit. But if

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you're gonna call it during the regular
season, you gotta call it the playoffs

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too. Yeah, which is better? You think if you had to choose

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calling it tight in the regular season
and then letting it go in the playoffs

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or calling it loose in the regular
season and tightening it up in the playoffs,

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I know what's easier. The easiest
thing to do is call it tight

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all the way through. You don't
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options, because they're they're doing it
now. They're calling it loose, looser

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in the in the playoffs than they
did in the regular season. Would you

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rather them call it loose all season
long and then when the playoffs hit,

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let's call it tight. Or we're
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the playoffs we're gonna let you play. All right. So if those are

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my only two options, yes,
all right, I'm gonna take the second

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one. Let them play in the
playoffs. Yeah, if those are my

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only two options. The reality is
you gotta call it the same way all

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the time. So it's how you
adjusted the regular season, That's what this

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is. How are we gonna call
the regular season? We're gonna let them

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go, then we're gonna let them
go. If you let them go,

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it's so much more difficult to officiate
the game because all the lines are blurred.

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What is a foul? What isn't
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And then it really comes down to
how hard you hit somebody? Yeah?

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Right, yeah it does. It's
like are you calling baseball? Are

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you calling the outside pitch or you're
not calling the outside pitch? What are

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we doing? And then you get
to the playoffs and then I giving it

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to you, right, you know, it's it's similar. You gotta be

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consistent. But that's the hard part. And I don't know, and I

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like you said, it's unwritten rule, but I think there's in conversations in

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back alleys and before games, officials
get together and say, hey, we're

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gonna let him play to night.
We're gonna let him play to night.

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Let's let's see if it's closed,
let it go, you know, And

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guys are going into the game thinking
I'm gonna get this call I'm gonna draw

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four fouls on so and so and
get him fouled out and that doesn't happen.

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You know, that made me think
I know an NFL official. I

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know a couple, but I was
talking to one. I cannot use his

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name, all right, because that
would be bad. Yeah, all right,

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yeah, don't do it. A
referee, a referee. And he

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was telling me that when he sits
down with his crew, he basically tells

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him this is not going to be
flagg day out here. Yeah, let

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him know, let him play,
Let him play. If it's egregious,

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go for it. If not,
I don't want to see a hundred flags

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out here, everybody turning around on
throwing your flag. Let these guys play.

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And he told me he has that
meeting with his crew. He's a

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veteran. He has that meeting with
his crew before every game. Does he

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ever go the other way? I
mean he says every time, hey,

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let them play. I don't want
to see a hundred flag? Got there?

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Or does he say these two teams
are very aggressive, they don't like

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each other. Let's say let's tighten
it up. They send a message early

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on. You know, he never
said he did that. But he works

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a lot of playoff games. I
mean, he's a big time and he

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said it was working a game.
And you know that's an all star crew.

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That's not his crew, right,
it's the highest graded people. So

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it's a new crew. So he
has the conversation before the game and he

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says, all right, guys,
you know, here's how we kind of

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like to do it. Let's do
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But I don't want to see this
be flag day. He told me

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one guy and the crew probably threw
five flags in the first half. He

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told me, so, one guy, I think five flags on the first

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half. They sit down at halftime, he walked up to the guy,

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goes, what are you doing?
What are you doing? What is this?

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Why do you keep throwing flags?
I mean, if it happens,

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call it, But if I mean, this is ridiculous, stop let them

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play. And I thought that was
really interesting that that was. And this

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one guy, every time he turned
around was throwing his flag. I mean,

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it's like he's in the playoffs and
this is big for him. Yeah,

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I'm doing I'm gonna make my name
today. And he throws the flag.

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So he had to talk him to
at halftime. Did he change his

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tune a little bit in the second
half or no, he said there weren't

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as many flags. I'll put it
like that. No, I bet I'm

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gonna have to talk to this guy. I bet going into halftime it's like,

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and didn't I just have that conversation
with these mother you know what I

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mean? And now the guy's throwing
twenty flags. He thinks he's on TV

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because his grandma's gonna see him or
somebody's gonna see him. Come on,

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I have a conversation with that guy. The other reps are looking at him,

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going, what are you doing?
Can you imagine? Yeah, you

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know, it's like the guy in
the NBA game, and I love in

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the NBA, where you know somebody
will obviously miss one, obviously, and

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the way they officiate, they look
at zones of the court right, you

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look left, you look right,
I'll look over here, you know,

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So if something happens in the zone
you're you're not watching, maybe you didn't

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see it. I gotta tell you, I think about sixty percent of the

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time you do, but you don't
call it. You don't call it because

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it's not your zone. And I
know those guys, you know, they

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see it. They see it.
Yeah, I mean sometimes wait, they're

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waiting for the other person to call
it, and if he doesn't call it,

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he's that's exactly right, you know
on your toes. But man,

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you call that right, You got
to call that. And the NBA.

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The other thing is they really don't
ask for help. They only ask for

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help with the balls out of bounds. That's it, that's right. You

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know you would think that that that
with three officials and so much going on,

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that they would ask for help more. But you're right. The only

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time you see them look at each
other is when the balls out of bounds?

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Which ways are going? Who's got
it right? And they teach you

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in these referee clinics, because I
saw one one time with guys that wanted

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to go to Division one college basketball. So they they send them out there

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in groups and they start working these
games. You know, there are scrimmage

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games and stuff. Do you know
if you and and somebody got downgraded and

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lost a chance to work Division one
because of this? Do you know if

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you see a call that the guy
misses or he makes, and you know

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it's wrong, and you show any
kind of expression like you know, just

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your face the slightest thing. Yeah, you're downgraded, Really, you're downgraded.

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Yeah, I saw a guy hill
the other guy up. Don't show

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the other guy up. You can't
do it. You're like a mummy.

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You can't do anything. Wow.
That is one thing to be, you

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know, talk to afterwards, but
to be downgraded because you make a gesture

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I have an expression on your face. Wow, that's a little much.

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And the guy that got downgraded flinched
the slightest bit. If you weren't staring

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directly at him, you would have
never seen it. But they were staring

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directly at him, right, And
I heard the conversation and cameras going on,

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Yeah, it's like, so you
can't do that, all right?

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Max Munsey Grand Slam last night,
still on a tear boy. He is

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on fire. He is on fire
and Grand slamming the first. This team

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We're gonna find ourselves saying this very
often this whole season. Fred is that

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this team And we've said this before, they got so many ways to beat

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you, but man, it is
you don't know where it's coming from.

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That's the thing. You don't know
where it's coming from. Who's gonna be

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hot tonight, and it's because it's
gonna be somebody. Somebody's gonna have a

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hot hand, if not more than
one. Scary. This lineup very scary.

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And then you got Yamamoto pitching like
he did well. He's still not

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at his best. See here's the
thing about Yamamoto, and it's really interesting

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in my mind. I don't know
how Dodger fans feel about it. And

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we talked about it a little bit
on the show the other day. Oh

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Tani, he's not a look at
me guy. He's just not mm hmm.

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I mean he is having a spectacular
start to his season in the most

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unassuming, don't look at me way. And we said at the beginning that

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there's an expectation who's gonna play well. I mean, the guy's playing out

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of his mind. But that's how
he plays. If you watch him with

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the Angels, you knew that that's
how he plays. So so he is

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having this unassuming monster start to a
season. Ya, I'm a Moto is

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the exact same way. Yeah.
Yeah, he got beat up in Korea

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and he got slapped around in spring
training. Now look at him just quietly

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moving along, just keeps going.
No look at me. I mean last

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night, now granted he was pitching
against Miami, Yeah, but still eight

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he went eight, He went eight
innings. Yeah, I mean, he's

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just just motoring along solid. Only
two mistakes, you know, lead off

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hitter and then you know what happened
in the third or whatever, another home

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run. But other than that,
he was lights out. He was lights

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out, and he's pitching with so
much confident But you're right, it's not

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a a look what I'm doing.
It's like, this is what I'm supposed

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to do. I'm gonna do it, do my job. I just show

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up and go to work, show
up, go to where he's the Dodgers.

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They all get to the office at
nine, nine am with their briefcases.

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They sit out, they just do
their thing, and they're out at

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five. Yeah, see you tomorrow, everybody. I'm I'm talking in the

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morning exactly, and they all fall
fall in line. You know. I

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think it's you know, look,
we we we we get to know these

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guys and we're we're happy for him. We were sad for him when they're

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in slumps. You know, we
were talking about James Outman and then him

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breaking out. Hitting the home run
was a big deal. Gavin Lux hit

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one yesterday was a big deal because
he had a slow start to the season.

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He's starting to pick it up a
little bit, but you're rooting for

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him, and you just know that
up and down this lineup, no matter

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who they put in there, it's
a scary lineup for the opponents because you're

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never you can never relax if you're
the opposing team, especially if you're an

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opposing pitcher. Mm hmm. You
cannot roll under any circumstance. No,

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yeah, you relax. It's a
grand Slam to Max Muntsey, Yeah you

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relax. And Tiasca Hernandez is hitting
a three run home run. You know,

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you can't ever relax against this lineup. I look up and they got

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runners on and Gavin Lux is doing
this thing, and oh wait, Mookie's

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on deck again. It doesn't feel
like Mookie Betts is on deck like twenty

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five times a game, I know. And how about lu shetting Hallways on

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deck? And how about like shitting
home run last night? Yes, yes,

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it's big, big. You know, like I said, we root

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for these guys that are struggling early. Now they're starting to come around.

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And seven eighth nights, which we
talked a lot about early in the season

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in April six seven, eighth ninth
hitters were not pulling their weight. Well,

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they start getting going. Man is
nowhere to hide in this lineup.

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Long season earlier, we saw the
bottom of the order not hitting, and

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you know, you're like, oh
God, what's going to happen. Well,

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here's what's going to happen there.
Everybody's going to go through cycles.

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Hopefully the top three cycle up most
of the time, but everybody's going to

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go through cycles and peaks and valleys. And what you're hoping is with nine

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guys, six of them are good
at some point or another in that lineup,

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because then you got it. So
the bottom half struggled. Now the

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bottom half is good. You put
pie Has in there, picked it right

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up. Jason Hayward will be back
soon. Yep, yeah it is.

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There's no weaknesses, no weakness because
you know you like you said you normally

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and a lot of teams like,
okay, I get those you know through

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three hitters, and these are the
three bad boys on that team. I

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can I'm safe for the next six
Yep. Here you're not, yep,

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I mean, and we another quiet
guy then not a me. Guys.

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Will Smith, he's sitting there hitting
number four, right, and you can't

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really say top three anymore because you
got to really say top four because he's

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the best hitting catcher in the league
and he's got so much offense and potential

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that you can't you can't fall asleep
on him, and so you can't get

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through the top three of the line
up and go, Okay, we're good,

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now, I can I can kind
of rest a little bit. No,

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you still got Will Smith, you
got Max Munsey, you got Anders,

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you know, you got Gavin Lexis
on now you got Paz. I

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mean, there's nowhere to hide in
this lineup. No, And you know,

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Dodger fans whole they keep it going. They'll wrap it up against the

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Marlins and then they'll they'll move on
and Rodney. As we wrap up today,

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may I please share a fun fact? Yes, just as we wrap

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up the Bonus Content podcast. Theodore
Roosevelt had a pet hyena named Bill.

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He also had other pets, a
one legged rooster, a badger, a

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pony, and a small bear m
hyena. He did that named Bill,

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name Bill, and then then attacked
the rooster, not to my knowledge.

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Okay, not to my knowledge.
There's your fun fact of the day,

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Theodore Roosevelt. I had no idea. Well, that's why we're here.

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I'm pondering that thought. That's why
we kill it. Yeah, we have

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stuff that other people don't. Right
off, Freddy, all right, that's

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it for the Bonus Content podcast.
We appreciate you listening, and we'll talk

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to you again tomorrow.

