WEBVTT 1 00:00:22.760 --> 00:00:25.800 Well, this is going to be a different tone, a different setting, 2 00:00:25.879 --> 00:00:32.240 and a different type of podcasts. This week. Typically we have something related 3 00:00:32.240 --> 00:00:41.000 to ancient civilizations or archaeologists or geologist or somebody talking about the ruins, a 4 00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:46.159 specific ruin or information on it. That's what typically we're all about. But 5 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:51.560 we're gonna kind of change up a little bit. And I think it flows 6 00:00:51.600 --> 00:00:57.840 with the discussion we had with Babu dev Misra, you know, discussing the 7 00:00:57.960 --> 00:01:02.560 end of Cali Yuga. And by the way, I got a tremendous amount 8 00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:07.640 of mail and people really like that program, and I can see why, 9 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:12.920 because it's really helping us understand the future and the past, what we're what 10 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:22.239 we're currently dealing with vibrationally, what's coming up after Kelly Yoga. Most of 11 00:01:22.319 --> 00:01:25.920 us won't be here, but we're in this three hundred year cycle right now, 12 00:01:26.120 --> 00:01:30.799 the kind of the in between Kelly Yoga in the next phase, and 13 00:01:30.879 --> 00:01:38.319 we're beginning to see evidence of problems, you know, crumbling, the breakdown 14 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:45.799 of this current society. But I also think that we're seeing what humanity is 15 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:49.159 turning into. And this is what the show's all about today. And would 16 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:55.799 you believe the guest is a NASA aerospace engineer. We haven't I don't know, 17 00:01:55.920 --> 00:02:00.000 have we had an aerospace engineer. We may have. We've had a 18 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:07.000 lot of astronomers, but an actual working aerospace engineer is a rarity. And 19 00:02:07.040 --> 00:02:14.800 what makes this program fascinating is the story we're going to hear about my guests 20 00:02:15.400 --> 00:02:22.080 life, and that is Shanaz Sony and a book that she wrote on her 21 00:02:22.120 --> 00:02:28.080 transformation called The Quantum Being. And this gets into her life in Pakistan as 22 00:02:28.120 --> 00:02:32.439 a young woman and the you know, it's a developing country and they have 23 00:02:32.919 --> 00:02:38.080 a lot of challenges for women. In fact, women are somewhat repressed in 24 00:02:38.120 --> 00:02:43.360 their ability to do much of anything other than being a housewife. And her 25 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:50.960 story is magnificent and I actually selected her. It was encouraged to have her 26 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:55.759 on Earth Agents because of her willingness to talk about off world types. What 27 00:02:55.800 --> 00:03:08.719 does that mean? UAPs aerial phenomenon offworld's interaction with NASA, And just recently 28 00:03:09.240 --> 00:03:15.599 NASA announced that there they I think they concluded a program. I think it 29 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:19.840 was NASA, it might have been the Department of Defense related to the Pentagon 30 00:03:20.800 --> 00:03:30.560 said that there's really no evidence of aliens or in the craft in the UAPs 31 00:03:30.199 --> 00:03:37.520 on Earth, and we should just you know, discount this when I hear 32 00:03:37.680 --> 00:03:47.199 that, I'm ashamed, not only that I'm angered that NASA thinks we're idiots. 33 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:55.400 The Department of Defense, the various branches of the military who regularly track 34 00:03:55.560 --> 00:04:01.319 these craft, thinks that we are not able to handle this. Now, 35 00:04:01.360 --> 00:04:08.400 we've talked about the whole alien interaction and a study that was done in nineteen 36 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:16.319 sixty, the Brookings Report that was commissioned by NASA to determine how the citizens 37 00:04:16.360 --> 00:04:21.800 of the United States would react to first contact knowledge that we are not alone, 38 00:04:23.399 --> 00:04:27.279 that these UFOs at that time with us what they were called unidentified flying 39 00:04:27.319 --> 00:04:32.079 objects, were manned by alien beings. And if it came out that we 40 00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:35.199 knew about it, that our government was not only aware about it, but 41 00:04:35.279 --> 00:04:44.000 maybe was participating in some kind of exchange or some kind of communications, that 42 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:48.600 we would lose our mind, religions would falter, government would end, and 43 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:55.519 people would commit suicide and mastros. I mean, even for nineteen sixty it 44 00:04:55.560 --> 00:05:00.879 seems a little far fetched. But in today's society, and you guys have 45 00:05:00.920 --> 00:05:08.399 heard it many many times with social media, with the interaction with our desire 46 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:14.879 to reach beyond our own planetary system and look to the stars. We would 47 00:05:14.920 --> 00:05:18.079 love to know that we're not the only one, that we're not the only 48 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:24.079 ones in our cosmos. I mean, we've heard it from doctor Avy Lobe. 49 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:31.120 How many times has he told us there's likely there's alien probes there without 50 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:38.319 saying that there's UAP flying around. He's basically saying, we need to be 51 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:46.639 transparent. NASA needs to be transparent. So today is very rare to hear 52 00:05:46.800 --> 00:05:56.680 from an aerospace engineer working with NASA and part of a very important space project 53 00:05:56.879 --> 00:06:01.519 that she'll discuss in detail with us today. This is fun. It's a 54 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:05.480 little departure, but I think you're really gonna like what she has to say. 55 00:06:05.839 --> 00:06:09.639 Hang on to your hat, because towards the end she says some pretty 56 00:06:09.639 --> 00:06:15.600 amazing things. So again, today's program is the quantum being a self sustaining 57 00:06:15.680 --> 00:07:13.120 and magnificent human craft. And my guest is she Nas Sony. I'm always 58 00:07:13.160 --> 00:07:17.199 looking for extraordinary people, and this week on Earth Agents, we have a 59 00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:24.399 fascinating author who has a transformative story and also a lot to say. Her 60 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:30.480 name is Shanaz Sony. She is a Pakistani who migrated to the United States 61 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:36.519 as a young woman, and she has written a book called The Quantum being 62 00:07:38.160 --> 00:07:42.879 a self sustaining and magnificent human Craft. And I had to have her on 63 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:48.399 the program simply because I've seen her in a number of programs and I just 64 00:07:48.519 --> 00:07:53.360 thought that she'd be a good fit, not only because she has a great 65 00:07:53.399 --> 00:07:59.319 story, but she is a NASA Aerospace engineer, and I got to tell 66 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:03.879 you that's not something that simply falls off the off the chair. It's a 67 00:08:03.920 --> 00:08:09.480 really important role and a very prestigious role. So we want to hear all 68 00:08:09.480 --> 00:08:16.040 about this transformational journey she took. So Shenas, Welcome to Earth Ancient's great 69 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:18.839 to have you on the program. Thank you, Cliff for this opportunity. 70 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:26.240 And I'm ready to jump off the cliff with you. You know, I 71 00:08:26.279 --> 00:08:31.399 saw you in a couple of different YouTube channels and doing interviews and you're just 72 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:37.440 very free to discuss whatever comes up and the whole we're going to talk about 73 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:41.720 UAPs and the alien intervention that's going on right now, but to be able 74 00:08:41.759 --> 00:08:48.919 to speak freely about that with your interviewer is really great. So I want 75 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:56.559 to start and discuss and talk about your transformation because this book basically is about 76 00:08:56.600 --> 00:09:03.799 your life and what you have gone through as a Pakistani women. This traditional 77 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:11.279 lifestyle. Was the book a need to give people a sense of freedom that 78 00:09:11.320 --> 00:09:16.240 they can have and understand that they're not locked into whatever tradition they were born 79 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:20.960 into, or is it more just I mean give us a sense of why 80 00:09:20.000 --> 00:09:26.639 you wrote the book. That's interesting because initially, so from the day one 81 00:09:26.720 --> 00:09:28.799 when I came to America, I was being asked, you know, because 82 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:35.919 when I would run into people and I would share any part of myself, 83 00:09:35.039 --> 00:09:41.080 like you know, the culture that I come from, or the religious conservative 84 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:45.919 upbringing that I had, or sexual trauma that I had, or any of 85 00:09:45.960 --> 00:09:50.279 those things that I would talk asually to other people, they would kind of 86 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:52.440 say that, oh my god, I've never met anyone like that. So 87 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:56.759 that trigger was always there, right for like thirty years almost like I've been 88 00:09:56.799 --> 00:10:03.080 here. So I was very aware that people are wanting to me to share 89 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:07.080 my story. However, when I wrote the book in the year twenty twenty 90 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:11.080 two, I thought about myself that I'm not an Angelina journey like I'm like 91 00:10:11.200 --> 00:10:13.600 nobody. So if I write a book which is all about my transformation, 92 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:16.320 people are going to be like, yeah, like who cares? Right, 93 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:20.039 So I said that I don't want to just write book about my transformation. 94 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:24.200 I want to share something that no matter what, people are interested in and 95 00:10:24.240 --> 00:10:28.279 it's going to help them. So what I did was I kind of made 96 00:10:28.279 --> 00:10:33.360 this book as more like like it has two parts, two goals in it. 97 00:10:33.399 --> 00:10:37.159 One is Chapter one to four is where I share my life that how 98 00:10:37.399 --> 00:10:41.120 someone like me who was not supposed to go to school became a NAZA rocket 99 00:10:41.120 --> 00:10:45.480 scientist, right, So I covered that in four chapters, and then the 100 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:50.480 remaining chapters, which is from five to twelve, I cover every single thing 101 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:56.679 I have learned by going to multiple mystery schools and by being inquisitive, like 102 00:10:56.759 --> 00:10:58.960 I say, like a sunny in the movie I Robot, by having that 103 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:05.159 kind of a drive and the curiosity, what I have learned and how I 104 00:11:05.159 --> 00:11:09.039 have navigated my life, I share like all those furs in those chapters. 105 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:13.879 So because to me, it was important that I make this book kind of 106 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:16.600 you know, like so it can cover the broader audience and it can make 107 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:22.360 people realize that they actually have a recipe of how to navel amazing life based 108 00:11:22.399 --> 00:11:28.480 on my perspective. Yeah, and your perspective is very unusual. Uh, 109 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:35.639 not only because of what you've endured, but your perspective has expanded. And 110 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:39.799 in one part of your book, you say that you believe you feel like 111 00:11:39.799 --> 00:11:43.759 you're not from Earth, like you're perhaps a foreigner, maybe from another planet. 112 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:48.759 Would you say that's an aspect of reincarnated lifetime or would you say that 113 00:11:48.759 --> 00:11:54.120 that's just how you feel and that you're here to you know, to explore 114 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:58.960 Earth and get as much as you can out of it. I would say 115 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:01.039 it's kind of both. I think that the very fact that our DNA does 116 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:05.360 you know, our DNA can actually contain like the universe in it. They 117 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:11.360 have done the experiment right that it can store terabyte of information. So if 118 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:16.039 you really think about it, we do have a lot more stored than we 119 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:20.960 sometimes bring it to the surface. Similarly, we have all capacity to access 120 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:24.559 pretty much more for genetic field. So the point is depending on where you 121 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:28.679 are and how much you want to go into that channel. I was always 122 00:12:28.960 --> 00:12:35.279 living in that channel because I was not accepting my physical reality as my full 123 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:39.759 life, like I was always wondering what is more to the story, And 124 00:12:39.840 --> 00:12:43.039 because of my creosity and because of my expended way of looking at things. 125 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:48.120 I was able to bring this type of reality in my life where I've done 126 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:52.200 all these incredible, dynamic things. And so what I'm saying is that everybody 127 00:12:52.279 --> 00:12:58.279 has access to that curiosity if they choose to. I definitely lived in it, 128 00:12:58.600 --> 00:13:01.080 welled in it, and it wasn't easy being mean me at times, 129 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:07.399 because especially when you're not satisfied with your surrounding, which is so hardcore strict, 130 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:11.879 it can make it very challenging because you feel like you're born in a 131 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:15.320 prison and you want to fly. I mean, it's quite a contrast. 132 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:24.279 Is reincarnation a known commodity in Pakistan? Does that? I mean, does 133 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:33.799 there the religion or religions follow that type of a pathway understanding for the most 134 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:41.039 part, now, like generally Muslims don't emphasize on reincarnation, even though so 135 00:13:41.159 --> 00:13:43.679 I was kind of raised under a Bordha religion, which is like a subset 136 00:13:43.720 --> 00:13:48.600 of Shia, and Shia is a subset of Islam, and according to that 137 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:52.279 religion, on a surface, they don't really talk about reincarnation, but there 138 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:56.679 are some levels, you know, because like the it's like some groups you're 139 00:13:58.399 --> 00:14:01.200 in my religion, it was more like the was a teaching that they would 140 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:05.960 give and it was only for select few. And I had learned that they 141 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:09.559 do talk about reincarnation, but only to people who are part of that teaching, 142 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:13.159 right, So it's kind of like a it's like a sacred knowledge, 143 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:16.480 it's like a hidden jam. So it was never available in that sense. 144 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:20.639 But when I went to mystery school teaching and when I started understanding consciousness, 145 00:14:20.759 --> 00:14:24.840 when I started understanding that how we come into existence and how we do come 146 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:30.720 back, at least as far as the soul is concerned, then it kind 147 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:33.879 of started making reincarnation a lot of sense. But the thing that gets very 148 00:14:33.879 --> 00:14:39.159 interesting is when you look at time differently, because everybody has their own definition 149 00:14:39.240 --> 00:14:43.360 of time, and that's why you know, like the whole reincarnation is always 150 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:48.399 connected with past tense or past life. And see, I don't look at 151 00:14:48.440 --> 00:14:52.399 time like as a past event, so therefore the whole past to me does 152 00:14:52.440 --> 00:14:58.639 not have to go one on one with reincarnation. I like that in your 153 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:07.879 book you talk about your ability and to use both mathematics and science, and 154 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:11.639 as a young woman you had a really great aptitude for this. What did 155 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:16.279 that do for you? Later on? I mean, you you have that 156 00:15:16.360 --> 00:15:22.480 ability. Obviously you took engineering studies and things like that, but in Pakistan, 157 00:15:22.600 --> 00:15:26.080 is that a plus or a minus for a woman to have that aptitude. 158 00:15:28.840 --> 00:15:31.919 It's an interesting question because for the most part, it depends on what 159 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:35.159 type of family you're born in and what is going to happen when you grow 160 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:39.120 up, and you know, if you go to school and if you graduate, 161 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:43.320 and when you get married, your livelihood and what you're going to do 162 00:15:43.360 --> 00:15:48.720 with that knowledge completely depends on your husband and your in laws, So you 163 00:15:48.759 --> 00:15:52.840 truly don't get to decide. So while you're not married, your dad and 164 00:15:52.919 --> 00:15:56.320 your brother decides everything about what you're going to do with your life. When 165 00:15:56.320 --> 00:16:00.320 you're married, then it's your husband and you know, so basically very patriarchal, 166 00:16:00.440 --> 00:16:03.840 right, for men gets to decide pretty much what's going to happen. 167 00:16:03.399 --> 00:16:08.000 And in general, I have not seen a lot of people like you know, 168 00:16:08.320 --> 00:16:12.399 doing what they wanted or what they dreamt of. And in my case, 169 00:16:12.399 --> 00:16:18.440 I was told by my pragmatic dad that why bother going to school even 170 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:22.159 when you're going to spend the rest of your life in the kitchen. Oh 171 00:16:22.279 --> 00:16:26.600 boy, it's kind of depressing. It is and right, and and to 172 00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:29.840 me, like you know, I was like, okay. So the other 173 00:16:29.919 --> 00:16:33.879 thing is that there are only few professions that are considered respectful, like being 174 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:37.960 a lawyer, being a doctor pretty much those two are the only one, 175 00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:42.279 and being a teacher, of course, but it was very limited in terms 176 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:48.639 of like my possibilities. However, I did not. I did not use 177 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:52.399 that as a as a driving factor like I wasn't. I have no idea 178 00:16:52.399 --> 00:16:56.639 what's going to happen once I get married, but I wanted to keep going 179 00:16:56.679 --> 00:17:00.360 as far as I could, in spite of the culture and inte of the 180 00:17:00.399 --> 00:17:04.960 dictatorship, in spite of the conservative way of thinking about life for women. 181 00:17:07.359 --> 00:17:14.440 When did you begin following the sacred arts? These mystery schools are? Do 182 00:17:14.480 --> 00:17:18.680 you meditate on a regular basis? Yes, I do, and I actually 183 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:22.039 call it light body activation, which is what I teach because it's a very 184 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:27.640 moving meditation, you can say, but it's more for an interactive meditation with 185 00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:30.880 everything around you, and it's something you can do pretty much anywhere. But 186 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:34.160 if then you do it outside with the sun and the earth, it just 187 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:41.839 becomes so much more rejuvenating. I would say that I became very actively involved 188 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:48.720 in understanding the sacred knowledge in January of twenty ten, which is when I 189 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:56.319 actively said that I need to really dive into the knowledge of what it is. 190 00:17:56.880 --> 00:18:02.319 And I basically looked for a training program locally here and I was able 191 00:18:02.359 --> 00:18:07.640 to find the school which is a center of applied metaphysics, and I basically 192 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:12.240 learned everything that they could offer, and then I even taught what they could 193 00:18:12.279 --> 00:18:17.319 not offer to other people like Kabbalah, because to me, it was important 194 00:18:17.319 --> 00:18:22.960 that I just keep learning and keep growing, because that's just the way I 195 00:18:22.000 --> 00:18:27.200 am. Yeah, I love that you mentioned that you have a sense of 196 00:18:27.240 --> 00:18:34.000 the ancient technology, the ancient science that forgotten the last sciences of perhaps Egypt. 197 00:18:34.599 --> 00:18:37.920 When you say something like that, does that mean that I mean? 198 00:18:37.960 --> 00:18:41.480 And you actually talk about this in your book. There's a picture of you 199 00:18:41.519 --> 00:18:45.559 stayinings to the Great Pyramid. Do you have a sense and perhaps how they 200 00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:53.640 built the Great Pyramid or the science behind its creation. So I have to 201 00:18:53.680 --> 00:18:57.480 say that everything to do with Egypt, right, the Pyramid, Egypt, 202 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:03.920 every single thing kind of makes us to realize that how much more we are 203 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:06.440 than what we think we are. Right, because if you really look at 204 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:10.960 the watch, the movie like Mummy, like they kind of encapsulate every single 205 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:15.039 thing that I've learned in the Mystery School's teaching. So what it tells me 206 00:19:15.799 --> 00:19:19.160 is that all the all the basic classical physics that we learn in the school, 207 00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:23.079 or even everything that we're learning in the school right now, truly will 208 00:19:23.079 --> 00:19:29.279 never get us to be living in the time when Egyptians were living with the 209 00:19:29.319 --> 00:19:33.680 pyramid around and with all the incredible you know, like the language that they 210 00:19:33.720 --> 00:19:37.480 spoke and the way they carried themselves, and when you look at all the 211 00:19:37.640 --> 00:19:42.680 arts where they're actually performing energy healing, they're performing energy healing, they're they're 212 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:47.920 actually pretty much performing magic. If you really don't understand anything, that's the 213 00:19:47.920 --> 00:19:51.680 word you would use. And all of that was embedded in it for thousands 214 00:19:51.720 --> 00:19:56.799 of years ago, right like when you go to Egypt, there was I 215 00:19:56.799 --> 00:19:59.880 don't remember exactly where I was, but I was in one of the temple 216 00:19:59.880 --> 00:20:04.039 and I looked up and I was so surprised when I saw the entire as 217 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:11.480 you know, the yeah, right, all of that was there as Hathor 218 00:20:11.559 --> 00:20:14.559 temple, isn't it. Yeah, I think that's it. Yeah, And 219 00:20:14.599 --> 00:20:17.240 it was all done like it was done with the black background, and it 220 00:20:17.359 --> 00:20:19.519 was so incredible and I'm looking at it and I'm thinking that, you know, 221 00:20:19.559 --> 00:20:22.440 how like you know, depending on who wrote the history, because history 222 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:29.119 is his story, right, so exact, and everybody wants to, like 223 00:20:29.279 --> 00:20:32.920 you know, come their chest and take all the credits. So it's like, 224 00:20:33.319 --> 00:20:34.880 you know, like like when you listen to Rome and when you listen 225 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:37.160 to Greek, then they will say, oh, we we discovered it. 226 00:20:37.519 --> 00:20:41.839 But when you really go back in time sometime you realize that it was already 227 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:45.160 discovered by somebody else. But when you go to Egypt, you pretty much 228 00:20:45.160 --> 00:20:48.680 get a lot of answers because there's just so much there. So what I'm 229 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:52.440 saying is that based on the way the pyramid is and even now what it 230 00:20:52.480 --> 00:20:56.240 can do, and based on what happened in Egypt thousands of years ago, 231 00:20:56.640 --> 00:21:00.200 which that energy is there when you go in at the perramit you feel it 232 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:07.359 in your DNA. I do believe that we were more technologically advanced than we 233 00:21:07.400 --> 00:21:11.599 are now. I believe that we're kind of going in the same direction because 234 00:21:11.599 --> 00:21:17.559 you know, everything moves in a circle based on Vedic astrology, right, 235 00:21:17.599 --> 00:21:19.559 it's kind of like we kind of go through all these ages, and we 236 00:21:19.640 --> 00:21:22.799 kind of repeat the cycle. So it's kind of an interesting thing that we 237 00:21:22.920 --> 00:21:30.160 sometimes don't remember all these things even though it's already in us to remember it. 238 00:21:30.519 --> 00:21:34.640 So what I'm saying is that it's more like an accepting of the fact 239 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:38.240 that we are way more than what meets the eyes, which means that we're 240 00:21:38.279 --> 00:21:42.920 capable of being a human craft, right, being a craft that can ascent, 241 00:21:44.079 --> 00:21:49.160 that can fly, that can make miracle happens, and Parmly exemplifies that. 242 00:21:49.519 --> 00:21:53.480 Do you think it's important that we connect with our ancestors, that the 243 00:21:53.720 --> 00:22:00.519 Egyptians, perhaps the ancient Maya, and not only celebrate their lives, but 244 00:22:00.640 --> 00:22:07.400 maybe try to figure out some of their scientific practices on one hundred percent, 245 00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:10.720 And it's not even like we have to figure it out. Look, as 246 00:22:10.759 --> 00:22:12.319 soon as we connect, I mean, they're like dying for us to connect 247 00:22:12.319 --> 00:22:15.440 with them. As soon as we connect, we interact, and when we 248 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:21.039 interact, we change. Based on quantum physics, you have already changed all 249 00:22:21.079 --> 00:22:26.559 your trajectory now, and when you change the trajectory and timeline, then you 250 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:30.799 end up vibrating at the higher frequency. So it happens very instantaneously. But 251 00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:34.480 we have to give ourselves a permission that it's time that we should not live 252 00:22:34.519 --> 00:22:41.119 in this old paradigm and keep dialing the channels. That just makes us feel 253 00:22:41.160 --> 00:22:48.319 like trap and traumatized. Are you somewhat challenge in the fact that you have 254 00:22:48.440 --> 00:22:56.400 been educated in the current physics and sciences, and then when we look to 255 00:22:56.480 --> 00:23:03.839 the ancients, it looks like a completely different physics, completely different science was 256 00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:07.359 was designed to create these functions, you know, the pyramids and things like 257 00:23:07.359 --> 00:23:11.480 that. I mean, it's almost like you said that we're coming to that, 258 00:23:11.279 --> 00:23:15.799 and we talk about the Yugas quite a bit, which is a cyclic 259 00:23:15.920 --> 00:23:22.039 system. We've had people on the program talking about that. Do you see 260 00:23:22.160 --> 00:23:29.519 us connecting with the back to the ancient systems or do we just evolve in 261 00:23:29.559 --> 00:23:36.240 our own way. I think that now with the amount of you know, 262 00:23:36.839 --> 00:23:41.039 with the butterfly effect that's going on, I do believe that we're going to 263 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:45.160 be teaching our kids all the things that the mystery schools offer, right like 264 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:48.480 people like me have to go out of my way to learn that. I 265 00:23:48.519 --> 00:23:53.000 do believe that. Actually, it's interesting because I have been coordinating with the 266 00:23:53.000 --> 00:23:59.519 homeschool locally and I'm actually teaching the children who are doing homeschooling the quantum physics 267 00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:03.559 up like quantum physics, right, Jess, Yeah, because to me, 268 00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:07.160 they don't really mind that the children are loving it, and I love that. 269 00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:08.000 So at the end of the day, you know, we are going 270 00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:12.279 to make a difference by saying that we are no longer going to accept what 271 00:24:12.440 --> 00:24:15.160 has been happening, and we're going to make a change by taking an action. 272 00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:22.240 And your prior question was that whether studying classical physics or studying science in 273 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:29.480 the school kind of limited my capacity to understand or at least make create any 274 00:24:29.559 --> 00:24:32.839 kind of confusion for me. And the answer is no, because see I 275 00:24:32.880 --> 00:24:37.039 never take anything at the face value, which is the reason I have made 276 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:40.519 this far. So whenever, like even the theory of relativity, when I 277 00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:44.759 look at it, I have converted it into explaining my like body activation that 278 00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:48.480 I explained to my you know, to people that wants to understand that, 279 00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:53.799 because to me, I change whatever. You see something, you have the 280 00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:59.319 capacity to look at it from many different angle because you're a hologram, so 281 00:24:59.400 --> 00:25:02.960 you see, you you can decide like you don't have to take everything like 282 00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:07.079 cause and effect, which is Newton's a lot of motion. Right, I 283 00:25:07.119 --> 00:25:10.400 look at that and I apply it in every aspect of my life. Right, 284 00:25:10.440 --> 00:25:12.960 I'm not going to use that just surely for classical physics. I use 285 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:19.319 it like cause and effect to me is equal to golden rule, right, 286 00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:22.359 right, what go around comes around. So if you think about it, 287 00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:26.440 so I start, I take whatever where the principles are, and I make 288 00:25:26.519 --> 00:25:30.480 it apply to life because that's just the way I see it. So for 289 00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:33.839 me, like, I have never been limited by these things because I don't 290 00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:37.000 let let it limit me, because I create my own definition of what it 291 00:25:37.319 --> 00:25:41.720 can me be. Yeah, I like that, But I mean, I 292 00:25:41.799 --> 00:25:48.319 guess my question follows the thinking that these current archaeologists and nuts of ptologists cannot 293 00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:53.839 see beyond their education. In other words, they look at the Great Pyramid 294 00:25:53.880 --> 00:25:57.720 and say, oh, this is a tomb. Well, other engineers like 295 00:25:57.759 --> 00:26:00.920 yourself will look at the pyramid and go, wait a minute, there's too 296 00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:06.759 much precision in the way the stones are cut, there's missing parts that may 297 00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:11.119 have been mechanisms inside the pyramid, and so forth and so on. So 298 00:26:11.160 --> 00:26:15.759 we're left with the people who have a limited vision who are writing in our 299 00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:18.960 history. And this is the real problem that we have. What do you 300 00:26:18.960 --> 00:26:22.559 say to that, No, I agree with that, and I agree with 301 00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:26.000 that, And a lot of times people are so attached to kind of that 302 00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:32.119 same linear thinking that in that process, you know, they have to really 303 00:26:32.160 --> 00:26:37.000 have a lot of like explanation right to kind of pick up one pieces. 304 00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:40.440 I don't dwell into that because to me, it makes no sense. How 305 00:26:40.519 --> 00:26:42.839 can you be so linear when you are when you are, like when you've 306 00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:47.400 seen your life that nothing linear really works. Like if you really look at 307 00:26:47.400 --> 00:26:51.039 your life, think about it. When you wake up and you make a 308 00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:52.880 plan for whatever you're going to do, even if you have everything like on 309 00:26:52.920 --> 00:26:57.920 a schedule, does it ever happen exactly the way you plan from the beginning 310 00:26:57.920 --> 00:27:03.599 to end? Yeah, yesn't right. So the fact of the memory that 311 00:27:03.640 --> 00:27:07.720 nothing really is black and white, and I truly don't understand why some people 312 00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:11.599 get so attached to it. And yeah, and the interesting thing about Egypt 313 00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:15.640 is that people who have been very attached and then you're thinking, they are 314 00:27:15.720 --> 00:27:22.720 also able to get surprised, right with the fact that the tools that were 315 00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:26.640 used. The tool had a precision like a laser. And that is impossible, 316 00:27:26.839 --> 00:27:30.880 especially when you when you make an assumption that the time. At that 317 00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:33.519 time, they didn't have the technology. So see, there are lots of 318 00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:40.039 assumptions because when you go to Egypt and you look at all the drawings they 319 00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:44.079 have, they actually have drawings of crafts, they have a like drawings of 320 00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:47.799 flying crafts, they have a drawing of astronauts. So there are things that 321 00:27:47.839 --> 00:27:51.480 you look at and then you wonder that how did they already have all that 322 00:27:51.599 --> 00:27:55.200 when we just in the last one hundred years we are doing these things. 323 00:27:55.720 --> 00:28:00.880 Yeah, And the thing that is challenging for people who see outside the box 324 00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:06.920 is that if you question these so called authorities, they get very angry at 325 00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:11.559 you. And if you're a representative of the archaeological community and you start thinking 326 00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:18.240 outside the box, you lose your tenure as a professor, you're belittled. 327 00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:23.519 It's just like it's really a challenge right now to be thinking outside the box. 328 00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:29.039 Right. So I think that that just goes back to everything right now, 329 00:28:29.079 --> 00:28:33.680 Like it's to me, it's like when anybody is going to create, 330 00:28:33.400 --> 00:28:38.240 limit you through the fear, right because they're limiting you through the fear then 331 00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:42.960 and if you're buying through the fear, then you're limiting yourself. So I 332 00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:47.160 think at the end of the day, we all have to start choosing that 333 00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:51.440 if I want to do something, then should I do that with or without 334 00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:55.920 this infrastructure? Right? And I think that ultimately more people start making the 335 00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:59.759 right choices, then this infrastructure is not going to be able to hold itself 336 00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:02.880 because it's a supply and demand. Right. The reason you have a fast 337 00:29:02.880 --> 00:29:10.759 food is because you're eating a fast food, right, Exactly, talk about 338 00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:14.799 being a quantum bean, what does that mean? That's the title of your 339 00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:18.480 book, But what are the aspects of that and what is this transformational path 340 00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:25.079 to reach your quantum being? So the reason I chose that title is because 341 00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:30.720 I was converging the very fact that you know, from a scientist standpoint, 342 00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:37.440 quantum physics answers most of a question about our existence, and based on that, 343 00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:41.440 we at the subatomic level are all the same, every one of us 344 00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:48.279 actually, whether even you include the extraterrestrial right, everybody at the subotomic level 345 00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:53.799 kind of can be decomposed into the dance of moving electron or photon. Because 346 00:29:53.839 --> 00:29:59.839 I feel like if you really look ourselves under the microscope and what exactly is 347 00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:06.480 the driver for our existence? Then that ends up boiling down to that, 348 00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:11.759 so when you use the quantum laws on electron or photon, then you can 349 00:30:11.880 --> 00:30:17.400 use the same law on the human being. The thing about human being is 350 00:30:17.400 --> 00:30:22.400 that we do have a soul which kind of ends up creating that consciousness that 351 00:30:22.480 --> 00:30:26.680 can make us truly do the right kind of a quantum dance, which means 352 00:30:26.720 --> 00:30:30.880 that when you look at the electron, you affect the electrons. So that 353 00:30:30.960 --> 00:30:37.240 means that if you add the consciousness in your equation of human right, then 354 00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:41.480 you can actually be the quantum being rather than human being, which means that 355 00:30:41.599 --> 00:30:45.759 being a quantum being, you can pretty much decide the destiny of your electron 356 00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:49.000 and photon, is what I'm saying. And because of that, you get 357 00:30:49.039 --> 00:30:55.759 way more power in your life given back to you rather than taken away from 358 00:30:56.200 --> 00:31:00.559 Because anybody who comes to you and says, oh, I have no choice, 359 00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:08.960 then that person is not the quantum be Boy, that's amazing. We're 360 00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:14.720 finishing up with Kali yuga right now, which is kind of the dark phase 361 00:31:14.839 --> 00:31:22.200 in the Hindu yoga system, But what you're talking about looks like the other 362 00:31:22.400 --> 00:31:27.799 end where we're kind of more tapped into subtle energies and the ability to see 363 00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:34.519 beyond our own vision, would you say the quantum being is what we can 364 00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:41.160 look forward to as an evolutionary being one hundred percent because we are becoming more 365 00:31:41.160 --> 00:31:45.000 and more aware of the fact that we have so much more capacity to do 366 00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:49.119 beyond our comprehension, I mean our younger generation right now. And even though 367 00:31:49.400 --> 00:31:52.319 like I have four boys, and all of my boys have been very game 368 00:31:52.480 --> 00:31:57.720 oriented, like they were extremely brilliant video game player, which is why one 369 00:31:57.759 --> 00:32:02.519 of my son actually because of that, he ended up creating a complete like 370 00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:06.519 he found his tribe while he was playing a video game, and he actually 371 00:32:06.599 --> 00:32:12.240 has created a life using the same principle where right now he's running a business 372 00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:16.559 and doing better than anybody I know at a very young age. So the 373 00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:22.359 point of the story is that he's created that life based on the quantum principle. 374 00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:24.599 Like he did not follow the norm that you would you know, like 375 00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:28.759 that people would say you should go to college, you should get a degree, 376 00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:30.799 then you should get a job. He didn't do any of that, 377 00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:36.759 and he completely bypassed all of it and he already started having a life where 378 00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:40.880 he basically had all the access to material life. And then he said that 379 00:32:40.920 --> 00:32:45.119 now he's already bored and he wanted to retire. So the point is he 380 00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:47.680 did all of that and he just turned I mean he's just turned twenty four. 381 00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:52.200 So the point is he's already lived all of that because he's moving so 382 00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.519 fast. And what I'm saying is that's the way we are going. Like 383 00:32:54.559 --> 00:33:00.079 our younger generation has so much to teach us because they are not going to 384 00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:02.079 follow, like, you know, like you go and work in a corporate 385 00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:06.960 world, you give your life for thirty forty years, then you retire, 386 00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:08.279 and then you take your you know what I mean. Like it's a very 387 00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:15.079 slow, very a stuck way of living. And quantum means that like whenever, 388 00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:17.160 like I think about anything, whenever I even have a coaching session one 389 00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:20.920 on one with people and then they say that, you know, I would 390 00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:23.240 love to learn light body activation. And then they say, once I learned 391 00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:28.039 that, maybe then I'll become the most amazing person. So I tell them, 392 00:33:28.359 --> 00:33:30.039 do you want to learn it? Really? And they're like yeah, 393 00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:31.359 I'm like okay, let's do it. They're like what right now? I'm 394 00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:35.440 like, yeah, that's the quantum way. Like it's not like you have 395 00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:39.279 to wait for anything. You just do what you want to do and attract 396 00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:44.920 that right now. I love that freedom that you're expressing it because we're all 397 00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:46.599 kind of like programmed by our parents. You got to go this way, 398 00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:51.319 follow this path, follow this path. And what you're saying is, you 399 00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:54.440 know what, start a business and then stop it and then start another, 400 00:33:54.839 --> 00:34:00.480 you know, the adventure. So have multiple dimensions of your of your life 401 00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:04.960 exactly because at the end of the day, the thing is that you're continuously 402 00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:09.079 learning and growing and evolving, and there's nothing that's really like a failure because 403 00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:13.199 failure is just a perception because at the end of the day, every single 404 00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:16.599 thing collects that gold does that you need to take that step in your Jacob's 405 00:34:16.639 --> 00:34:19.800 ladder, the next step, the next step, the next step, and 406 00:34:19.840 --> 00:34:24.719 that's how that's how we do this quantum dance. Yeah, amazing. You 407 00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:30.360 have some fascinating things to say as an aerospace engineer for NASA, and I'm 408 00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:37.519 curious about your opinion on UAPs because this is not going away, although the 409 00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:43.280 American government doesn't want anybody to really know about it and they continually try to 410 00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:50.880 cover it up. What's your feeling on the UAP phenomenon. Well, so 411 00:34:50.960 --> 00:34:54.440 basically it's the unmanned aerial phenomena. Right, that's what the acronym stands for. 412 00:34:55.079 --> 00:35:01.880 And just like we have a lot of creatures under the ocean, right 413 00:35:02.199 --> 00:35:07.480 because ocean is very vast, Similarly, space is very vast, and we 414 00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:12.760 have creatures in the space. The very fact that you know, we have 415 00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:16.280 a lot of Generally, like you know, military always ends up having more 416 00:35:16.280 --> 00:35:22.079 technological access to more technological items, you know, that are more advanced. 417 00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:29.599 They're able to keep a good lid on things that can make us not see 418 00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:31.320 certain things, right, Like for example, you know, you can make 419 00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:38.079 sure that before something gets visible to more human beings, it can be dissipated 420 00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:43.639 or it can be kind of disintegrated before you can even get there. You 421 00:35:43.679 --> 00:35:46.760 see my point. So there's that going on. I personally think that now, 422 00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:52.719 like in the last three years especially, you have had people come to 423 00:35:52.800 --> 00:35:55.519 me send me pictures of things that they saw that made no sense. I 424 00:35:55.639 --> 00:36:00.280 personally had my own examples when I was in Florida and even in my right 425 00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:02.639 by my house, I saw something that made no sense. So at the 426 00:36:02.719 --> 00:36:07.880 end of the day, what's happening is that people who are already expanding their 427 00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:12.320 consciousness by doing things by outside the box that everything that I share in my 428 00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:15.360 book, for example. As soon as you do that, what's going to 429 00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:22.280 happen is that you are going to be able to create the opening in the 430 00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:24.920 way you're going to perceive information. You're going to be able to see things 431 00:36:25.000 --> 00:36:30.639 that may have been blocked before. Because it's like if you follow the linear 432 00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:35.239 paradigm, right, if you follow the dictatorship paradigm, then you're not going 433 00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:38.559 to see something that because you are so much into this indoctrination that you're not 434 00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:42.000 going to see it. You see, But when you say, you know 435 00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:45.360 what, I just want to be free, I want to be breathing, 436 00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:49.039 I want to be living, I want to just I want to open the 437 00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:52.000 door to see what is out there. As soon as you say that, 438 00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:55.119 you start experiencing them. So yeah, So the point is what I'm saying 439 00:36:55.159 --> 00:37:01.000 is, yeah, they do exist. They are basically there, just because 440 00:37:01.039 --> 00:37:05.840 everything else under the ocean is there, like rights as above, so below 441 00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:08.679 we have intelligence all around us, and the only thing is we have to 442 00:37:08.679 --> 00:37:13.920 open their door to be able to see them and to validate them. The 443 00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:17.000 thing you've mentioned earlier that a lot of archaeologists are worried about losing their job, 444 00:37:17.280 --> 00:37:21.480 so that's why they don't go outside the box. It's the same thing 445 00:37:21.559 --> 00:37:27.039 going on in the space phenomena that people are only coming out and sharing what 446 00:37:27.079 --> 00:37:30.760 they've seen after they have retired, after they're like near death, you know. 447 00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:37.320 Yes, yes, We're going to take a short commercial break to allow 448 00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:43.039 our sponsors to identify themselves and we will return quickly with my guest today, 449 00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:51.800 Shanna's Sony, discussing her new book, The Quantum Being. Will be right 450 00:37:51.840 --> 00:38:35.840 back. My guest today is Shanaz Sony. She has written a new book 451 00:38:36.400 --> 00:38:43.559 on her journey from Pakistan to the United States and now is a aerospace engineer 452 00:38:43.599 --> 00:38:47.280 for NASA, and we're going to hear shortly about the new projects that she 453 00:38:47.440 --> 00:38:55.679 is working on. Aren't you concerned about being outspoken about? And by the 454 00:38:55.719 --> 00:39:02.559 way, u APS's the new term for UFOs right, Unidentified flying aerial phenomenon 455 00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:09.719 UAP. I think that, you know, like the Pentagon and the military 456 00:39:09.880 --> 00:39:15.639 is looking at it with that change in brand name to uap as. What 457 00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:22.320 is the physics behind the machine that's flying? But the bigger question is who 458 00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:29.679 are the beans, where are they from? What is their intent here? 459 00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:34.079 On Earth, and that's what I'm interested in your opinion, And I'm wondering 460 00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:37.960 if you ever get because you're outspoken. Now, if what are your bosses 461 00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:40.559 were to watch us to go, We're going to need to talk to her. 462 00:39:43.039 --> 00:39:45.039 That's kind of funny because I'm actually going to speak on my book The 463 00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:50.320 Quantum being on the next Monday at NASA's facility, if I'm to give me 464 00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:52.440 the opportunity to do that. So just imagine that they have no idea what 465 00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:59.519 they're getting into, right, respond, so you know it's okay, so 466 00:39:59.519 --> 00:40:01.360 I'll answer. So there are multiple questions, but okay, So even right 467 00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:05.639 after Alex Ferrari's interview, right, I did, and I was very open 468 00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:08.199 about by expression. And I had one of my friends texted me and said 469 00:40:08.440 --> 00:40:13.559 that you need to get a lawyer, because she was like completely like right, 470 00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:17.360 And I'm thinking that because I already think about these things beforehandr Right, 471 00:40:17.440 --> 00:40:21.880 Like I know, and I always tell people too that you always have a 472 00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:24.000 choice. So for me, what is the worst thing that's going to happen, 473 00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:29.320 Cliff, is that if somebody watches this interview from NASA and then they 474 00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:31.719 say, okay, we have a come to Jesus movement, right, and 475 00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:35.840 then I hop to them, let's say, and then decision asks you can't 476 00:40:35.880 --> 00:40:39.480 do these podcasts because you know this is not right for us, and you 477 00:40:39.480 --> 00:40:44.159 know whatever. For example, now I have a choice because remember I told 478 00:40:44.199 --> 00:40:47.239 you you always have a choice. So I have a choice to say no 479 00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:52.000 to something that I find passionate about because I want to keep my job. 480 00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:54.880 I have a choice to do that. Right. I also have a choice 481 00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:57.920 to say, you know what, if you're going to limit me from my 482 00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:04.199 expansion, then I'm going to find somebody who doesn't and that's what I choose. 483 00:41:05.039 --> 00:41:12.360 Wow, that's I love that, but wow, you know that's that's 484 00:41:12.440 --> 00:41:15.920 like a major decision to be made if you're if you're given that choice. 485 00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:22.800 You said something that I found was fascinating in another interview. You somehow you 486 00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:28.559 got this information that you had found out that from the very beginning of any 487 00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:35.960 kind of uh uh space program with the Americans had employed that there were always 488 00:41:36.719 --> 00:41:43.320 UAPs or UFOs around the launch sites. Can you talk a little bit about 489 00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:46.599 that, because when you said that, I was like, that's that what? 490 00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:52.559 Right? There is like the biggest secret kept under wraps, you know 491 00:41:52.599 --> 00:41:57.679 what? I mean yeah, and I mean I'm I guess it was something 492 00:41:57.719 --> 00:42:00.559 that I didn't even think about that it was a secret because I live in 493 00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:04.559 a different world. But yeah, basically what has happened is that whenever we 494 00:42:04.639 --> 00:42:07.000 had to launch the missile for testing and things like that, you know, 495 00:42:07.159 --> 00:42:10.599 like at the Air Force base. And I'm not just going to give the 496 00:42:10.719 --> 00:42:16.119 name because I'm trying to keep some information secret we have, I had engineers 497 00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:22.400 come to me and then they would say that they saw something that was kind 498 00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:25.320 of going in a way in like with the speed that there's no craft that 499 00:42:25.320 --> 00:42:29.360 we've ever made that can go to that speed. So they basically would say 500 00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:36.719 that they had a sighting of you can say UEP right because that basically was 501 00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:40.119 flying right when they're about to perform the when they're about to launch you know, 502 00:42:40.159 --> 00:42:44.039 a missile for example, for testing or anything like that. So they 503 00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:45.920 would see it and then they would come to me and they would say that 504 00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:51.679 we just I just I just cannot believe that what it is, like they 505 00:42:51.679 --> 00:42:53.440 were wondering, so they didn't know whom to share it. So they come 506 00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:57.360 to me because they know that I'm not going to completely question them or make 507 00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:00.440 them think that they have lost their mind because I had people come to me 508 00:43:00.440 --> 00:43:01.800 and then we would say that, you know, I you know, I 509 00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:07.079 heard my dad, you know, speaking to something that didn't look like a 510 00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:09.800 human, and I was told to go in my room, but I sneaked 511 00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:14.280 in and I saw it like people would tell me these stories that they wouldn't 512 00:43:14.280 --> 00:43:16.800 be able to tell anybody because they knew that I will hold the space for 513 00:43:16.840 --> 00:43:20.719 them. So yes, and as I said, I personally had my own 514 00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:23.800 experience and not only that, there has and even though weather is always a 515 00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:29.400 very big determination factor of whenever we launch any kind of rocket, at the 516 00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:34.400 same point, you have seen how unpredictable weather is, right from any perspective. 517 00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:37.400 In the morning, they can decide the whether to be a certain way, 518 00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:40.960 and they completely do everything to get everything ready, and the weather changes 519 00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:45.840 like like completely, like that's why we had so many times we have to 520 00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:49.760 scrub the launch because if everything would happen exactly the baby plan, we would 521 00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:52.360 never have to scrub the launch ever. But it doesn't work like that. 522 00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:54.440 So what I'm saying is, yes, one hundred percent, there is an 523 00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:59.440 intervention there. And then going back to your earlier question where you were wondering 524 00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:02.719 that who are they? What is who are they? Curious? If you 525 00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:07.400 have any sense because if you're I mean, and I don't know how far 526 00:44:07.519 --> 00:44:12.760 into this you can get into, but if you you know, if they 527 00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:17.039 land close to a launch area and they get out and look, or they're 528 00:44:17.079 --> 00:44:22.920 flying along side the missile or whatever, that would be mind blower. That 529 00:44:22.039 --> 00:44:24.519 is true. So I have to say that, like, okay, so 530 00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:28.519 based on based on you know, I mean, I'm very much into sci 531 00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:30.199 fi because sci fi is where I get all my news. But I'm just 532 00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:32.280 kidding. But the point, I mean, I'm really mean, I really 533 00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:37.159 mean it. Okay. So the point is that if you really think about 534 00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:39.239 it, that you know, like the whole past, present, and future, 535 00:44:39.360 --> 00:44:42.800 right, that we kind of put it in a separate category. But 536 00:44:42.960 --> 00:44:49.480 just imagine all of us have our future, like basically our future aspect that 537 00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:54.559 exists that can actually communicate with our present, especially because of the technological advancement. 538 00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:59.760 So what I'm saying is that what we're interacting with in the form of 539 00:45:00.519 --> 00:45:05.800 something that we don't understand could be many things, but one of them could 540 00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:10.639 be that it is our future self we're interacting with, right and whenever you 541 00:45:10.679 --> 00:45:15.239 say that, Okay, we want to know what their intention is. Basically, 542 00:45:15.400 --> 00:45:21.719 when you read chapter six in my books, that law applies in every 543 00:45:22.039 --> 00:45:24.440 aspect of our existence. Right, so it kind of the answer when you 544 00:45:24.480 --> 00:45:28.079 ask a question, the answer is always there. Right. So if you 545 00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:30.199 say, I wonder what their intention is, well what is your intention? 546 00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:35.280 You see? Because you know when you watch the movie like Avatar, have 547 00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:38.599 you noticed that how like generally they show that people who have all the access 548 00:45:38.639 --> 00:45:42.599 to technology, people who have all the access to power, what do they 549 00:45:42.639 --> 00:45:49.119 do? They're always making all their decisions from their ego? Are they ever 550 00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:53.039 making decisions from their from their divine self? Are they ever making decisions to 551 00:45:53.199 --> 00:45:57.000 kind of really say, let me understand it. It's all about let me 552 00:45:57.119 --> 00:46:00.320 use my weapons so I can prove them that who is the big daddy here? 553 00:46:00.519 --> 00:46:04.159 You see my point, it's a very it's a very broken mindset. 554 00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:07.519 So I mean, that's what I'm trying to also mention is the fact that 555 00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:15.480 with the American military it's shoot first then greet later, or that to me, 556 00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:17.719 God needs to change and the only way it's going to change is that 557 00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:22.599 we don't keep working for somebody who wants to just run on their ego. 558 00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:27.079 We're going to have to make that change. We all have to look inside 559 00:46:27.079 --> 00:46:30.119 ourselves and really make some hard choices, because it's time that we don't keep 560 00:46:30.599 --> 00:46:35.920 doing things just because we're fearful, Because what's the use of living when you 561 00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:40.960 are not even living for yourself? Yeah, it's weird. I mean I'm 562 00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:45.679 curious as to your thinking. I mean, if our military has great knowledge 563 00:46:45.679 --> 00:46:52.920 of these alien craft and they're close to these launch areas, you know, 564 00:46:52.440 --> 00:46:55.599 do they have they I mean, there's a big rumor that some of the 565 00:46:55.639 --> 00:47:00.320 early presidents, Eisenhower's one of them, had an agreement with the alien group 566 00:47:01.159 --> 00:47:05.559 that we will be here, but if you don't want us to say hello 567 00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:08.360 to the public, we won't. But that to me, and I'm really 568 00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:15.760 curious about your opinion on this. If we just do not disclose this openness 569 00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:22.559 of these alien civilizations to meet with us, and we're constantly hiding this information, 570 00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:25.960 doesn't that damage us evolution wise? I mean, I think as soon 571 00:47:25.960 --> 00:47:31.119 as we meet an alien civilization, we automatically evolve because we know that we're 572 00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:36.440 not the only ones in our cosmos. That is very true. So right 573 00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:38.880 there, you gotta get your answer right, that ultimately, what is the 574 00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:45.360 goal? Right, Because whoever is protecting you or hindering you right from any 575 00:47:45.440 --> 00:47:51.639 kind of information, then what is the intention? Right? Because it's all 576 00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:54.519 about like to me, whenever you are like, I mean, it all 577 00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:59.440 boils down to power and control, right in general, Like whenever people are 578 00:47:59.559 --> 00:48:04.320 hiding something from the other person, there's always a fear operating underneath. Right, 579 00:48:04.360 --> 00:48:07.280 what is that fear? Right? What are you fearful? That if 580 00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:10.039 all of the human beings knows everything right that's really really going on, all 581 00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:14.639 of us will become extremely amazingly powerful. And then we're not going to be 582 00:48:14.679 --> 00:48:20.199 listening to these limited leaders and they're not going to have like fun as much 583 00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:23.519 as they're getting fun from all the excitement that they get because of our trauma 584 00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:28.800 or because of our you know, because of the our emotional turmoil. Right. 585 00:48:29.119 --> 00:48:36.400 Yeah, Yeah, you're tapping into the control issue and you're sensitive to 586 00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:38.360 that because you had this and as your child. So you're like, I 587 00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:44.239 can see you're trying to control. You're trying to control, and you know 588 00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:45.800 that is exactly where the choice and control, right, I mean, think 589 00:48:45.800 --> 00:48:49.480 about all of these words. Right, So at the end of the day, 590 00:48:49.519 --> 00:48:52.280 what I'm saying is that, like you know, our fear is the 591 00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:57.360 reason we let our selves be controlled by other people. You know. I 592 00:48:57.400 --> 00:49:00.360 actually have a quotation in my book right which says that if I I wanted 593 00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:06.719 to be controlled, I would have come with a remote. That's hilarious. 594 00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:13.360 As we conclude the whole idea behind UAP's UFOs and the alien beings, can 595 00:49:13.400 --> 00:49:22.039 you project a time when we do have a general meeting or an understanding because 596 00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:27.840 I don't know what to believe anymore. There's so many rumors about underground bases 597 00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:36.920 and working with alien groups, but not expressing it to the public because they'll 598 00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:40.159 be wanting to kill themselves. I mean, do you know about the Brookings 599 00:49:40.199 --> 00:49:50.039 Institute document that was written in nineteen sixty It was requisitioned by the NASA to 600 00:49:50.079 --> 00:49:55.000 find out how people would react to first contact. Wow, no, I'm 601 00:49:55.000 --> 00:50:00.480 not sure. So anyhow, this document was requisitioned and it's basically very sad. 602 00:50:00.519 --> 00:50:05.920 It said that religions would freak out, people would jump out of buildings, 603 00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:09.039 they couldn't deal with it, people would want to kill themselves if there 604 00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:14.559 was knowledge of an alien race. But it was written in it was more 605 00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:22.000 acquisitioned in nineteen sixty and it feels like they're still following that. Yeah, 606 00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:23.840 that is an interesting thing because if you really think about it, right, 607 00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:27.960 like when you look at the world and look at the chaos and look at 608 00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:30.039 what happened, even when in twenty twenty, right, the whole COVID thing 609 00:50:30.119 --> 00:50:34.239 happened. Yeah, if you really think about it, like you know, 610 00:50:35.360 --> 00:50:37.639 at the end of the day, like it's almost like whoever is making these 611 00:50:37.679 --> 00:50:42.880 decisions, they don't really have faith in themselves because you have to have a 612 00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:49.000 faith in yourselves to project it outwards. And yeah, everybody is not ready 613 00:50:49.039 --> 00:50:52.440 for everything. That is very true. But the very fat that for the 614 00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:55.199 last one hundred years, people are questioning a lot of things, right, 615 00:50:55.239 --> 00:51:01.000 that has been not properly given. I personally think that there's always pros and 616 00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:05.320 cons of everything, But isn't it better? It's almost like, you know, 617 00:51:05.320 --> 00:51:07.320 if you're not in a happy marriage and you keep on living in that 618 00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:12.360 marriage, right, who are you lying to? You're actually aligned to yourself. 619 00:51:12.800 --> 00:51:16.280 Yeah, so that rule applies on every aspect of existence. So to 620 00:51:16.519 --> 00:51:21.679 me, the more honest you are, Yeah, there are repercussions of honesty 621 00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:24.079 because it doesn't look as pretty as it was looking before. Maybe it may 622 00:51:24.119 --> 00:51:29.880 not look as pretty, but ultimately, you know the universe, and based 623 00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:35.199 on the laws of sacred geometry, everything wants to ultimately be aligned, ultimately 624 00:51:35.239 --> 00:51:38.760 be harmonious, ultimately be coherent. So yeah, we will struggle. Of 625 00:51:38.800 --> 00:51:42.880 course, we will have a struggle time. And those are the times when 626 00:51:42.880 --> 00:51:46.559 people like Cliff, you and me can help you know the masses right so 627 00:51:46.599 --> 00:51:51.760 that they can integrate the information. But that's just the way it is with 628 00:51:51.840 --> 00:51:54.119 everything. I mean, look at all the mess that we already have created 629 00:51:54.159 --> 00:52:05.039 without having any alien involved. You you hinted at a colleague watching a parent 630 00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:08.360 speaking with an alien. Can you talk a little more about that or any 631 00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:17.079 experience or any other colleagues having a one to one interaction. Well, what 632 00:52:17.119 --> 00:52:23.199 it what it did to me was that it kind of confirmed the the species. 633 00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:28.840 You know, we call it grace right, that species does exist. 634 00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:35.559 And it was actually partly almost like we were the conduit in creating them, 635 00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:40.960 because they actually do have the capacity to sustain you know, long space travel 636 00:52:43.840 --> 00:52:46.559 physical physically, on a biological level, they can take a long flight. 637 00:52:46.880 --> 00:52:51.480 Okay, yeah, exactly, So then that kind of is an interesting point 638 00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:52.800 of view because you know, a lot of times people are asking me now 639 00:52:53.239 --> 00:52:57.400 that why am I part of the Artemis mission, like why am I doing 640 00:52:57.440 --> 00:53:00.840 something with NASA? Like while we have how much challenge is going on on 641 00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:05.000 Earth? And I tell them that I am open to, you know, 642 00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:08.519 working on whatever project cites me right now. Yeah, I am definitely working 643 00:53:08.519 --> 00:53:13.440 on Artemis. And I do believe that us truly going and living on a 644 00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:19.280 moon and ultimately colonizing Mars is going to help us expend our understanding of the 645 00:53:19.800 --> 00:53:23.599 other beings that have been already working with us, because we won't be able 646 00:53:23.639 --> 00:53:27.440 to make this happen if you're not working together. Wait wait, wait, 647 00:53:27.480 --> 00:53:30.559 wait, you said that other beings that are already helping us. Now, 648 00:53:30.599 --> 00:53:32.880 what do you mean by that? Just in general? Like my whole thing 649 00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:36.760 is that, just like I said about the weather right and the launch of 650 00:53:36.800 --> 00:53:40.679 the rocket, My point is that we are at the very higher level conglamorting 651 00:53:40.760 --> 00:53:45.239 with other star beings, right, because we wouldn't be able to go to 652 00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:50.079 Moon after fifty years if you don't do that. So you're saying that on 653 00:53:50.119 --> 00:53:55.559 some level consciously and unconsciously, we're receiving data from these off world types. 654 00:53:57.039 --> 00:54:00.920 We one hundred percent. I mean all of us are, and especially our 655 00:54:00.000 --> 00:54:04.000 leaders who are already aware of them. They are definitely working with them, 656 00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:07.360 right, because that is just the way that is definitely happening in the background, 657 00:54:07.400 --> 00:54:12.119 right. We just don't know all the details because it hasn't been broadcasted 658 00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:15.760 by a Putin or any of the president yet. Well, are you saying 659 00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:22.840 that some of your engineers who are plotting the ornymous program have are working with 660 00:54:22.960 --> 00:54:25.840 off world types? No? No, no, I mean I'm okay, 661 00:54:25.880 --> 00:54:30.320 So I'm not making a statement in that sense, because I'm just saying in 662 00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:35.559 general, the beings are here. They have always been here. All of 663 00:54:35.639 --> 00:54:37.400 us are interacting with them at one way or the other. Whether you know 664 00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:42.239 it or not, that's completely up to you. We are all interacting similarly 665 00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:46.719 when we make major decisions like when when the decision to live on a moon 666 00:54:46.800 --> 00:54:51.519 is a pretty major decision for human beings. When you make a decision like 667 00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:53.800 that, and if you are able to do that, it's partly because the 668 00:54:54.000 --> 00:54:58.920 entire universe wants you to do it, not just human species. Oh I 669 00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:02.119 hear you, an evolutionary kind of thing. Exactly, yeah, exactly, 670 00:55:02.199 --> 00:55:07.280 So that's exemplifies that you're working with a power that hasn't been you know, 671 00:55:08.159 --> 00:55:14.400 been made aware to the masses. Rooke briefly about the Artemist program. What's 672 00:55:14.440 --> 00:55:20.239 the goal for that and what's the long term projection for completion? Okay, 673 00:55:20.280 --> 00:55:22.360 so I'll definitely do that. I have to hop on another meeting in five 674 00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:29.079 minutes, but I'll do my best. So Artemis mission is basically Apollo twin 675 00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:32.880 Sister Artemis. This mission is all about the first woman to walk on the 676 00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:37.280 Moon first. So that's why woman is going to walk. Yeah, oh 677 00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:39.880 right, okay, and it's going to happen in twenty twenty six, I 678 00:55:39.880 --> 00:55:45.800 believe September that's the scheduled date. And we are going to do Artemist too. 679 00:55:45.800 --> 00:55:49.960 Mission in twenty twenty five. We did the first one when we did 680 00:55:50.000 --> 00:55:52.760 the launch of the SLS rocket, which was to make sure that the SLS, 681 00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:55.679 which is one of the most heaviest rocket ever built, was able to 682 00:55:55.679 --> 00:56:01.400 go to the lunar orbit. The reason for these missions are just like International 683 00:56:01.400 --> 00:56:06.679 Space Station will build up in the space in a multiple flights, Artemis is 684 00:56:06.679 --> 00:56:09.320 the same way. There are multiple missions. Right now, I'm working on 685 00:56:09.360 --> 00:56:13.199 the Artemists three mission. We already launched the first. We're going to do 686 00:56:13.239 --> 00:56:16.840 the second one in one year. These missions are like a Jacob's ladder. 687 00:56:16.880 --> 00:56:22.280 They are built on top of each other. So every mission you add more 688 00:56:22.320 --> 00:56:24.880 goals to it. So the third is the first mission where it's going to 689 00:56:24.920 --> 00:56:29.719 be manned mission. That's a woman is going to walk on the moon first, 690 00:56:29.719 --> 00:56:32.239 and then the man and then the two astronauts will stay there for one 691 00:56:32.280 --> 00:56:37.280 week, and then Artemis fourth that they're going to stay for a longer time 692 00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:42.159 period, and Artemis five and then more players are added, like more companies 693 00:56:42.199 --> 00:56:45.519 are added, more, you know, like so it's it's a very big 694 00:56:45.559 --> 00:56:52.199 giant cardy that we're going to do h and it's the international crowd because we 695 00:56:52.280 --> 00:56:58.320 have you know, European Space Agency in Wall, we have SpaceX invall, 696 00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:01.719 we have Boeing invalld, Lockheed Martin involved, right, So it just it's 697 00:57:01.719 --> 00:57:07.280 a pretty expensive party. Are you going to build anything on the lunar surface 698 00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:13.679 or just land and walk around. The third mission is all about learning to 699 00:57:13.719 --> 00:57:16.239 survive there for one week. However, we're going to be sending the commercial 700 00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:21.000 payloads, which is going to be all unmanned and then they're going to create 701 00:57:21.039 --> 00:57:27.159 the entire surface asset so that way we can live on it and colonize Moon. 702 00:57:27.480 --> 00:57:30.480 So all of that is going to be happening on a regular basis. 703 00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:35.239 And so yeah, the whole idea is to be able to create water and 704 00:57:35.280 --> 00:57:39.239 fuel and use their resources. And how exciting for you to be a part 705 00:57:39.280 --> 00:57:43.159 of that. That must be just I would want to get up every day 706 00:57:43.199 --> 00:57:46.599 and go run to work. Well, that's why, that's why I dwell 707 00:57:46.639 --> 00:57:49.880 into all these words, because it's so much fun. Right now, my 708 00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:54.440 meeting at two o'clock is all about Moon to Mars architecture that we are actually 709 00:57:54.480 --> 00:58:00.559 creating for this Artemis mission. The books call the Quantum being. My guest 710 00:58:00.559 --> 00:58:05.480 today has been Shana's Sonny. Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. I'm going to 711 00:58:05.679 --> 00:58:09.079 put the book for everybody to see. There's the book and it's been out 712 00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:13.920 now you can get it on Amazon. Do you have a website that people 713 00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:15.960 can go to to learn more about you or what's your story on you? 714 00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:21.599 Yes? So my website is my first name, last name dot com Shanas 715 00:58:21.639 --> 00:58:25.400 Sony, which is written down there and one word dot com and you'll find 716 00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:31.400 everything about my group classes and about my one on one coaching and the book. 717 00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:35.559 And I'm working on my audio right now. I'm narrating it myself because 718 00:58:35.639 --> 00:58:37.679 so many people are asking for it, and it's going to come out soon. 719 00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:40.199 As soon as I submit that. Are you I'm just going to ask 720 00:58:40.280 --> 00:58:43.719 you if you had an audible version of it, but good for you. 721 00:58:44.199 --> 00:58:46.679 I'm working on it because Alex gave me that action, and that's my that's 722 00:58:46.719 --> 00:58:51.559 my highest priority right now. Shana's what a pleasure, And thank you for 723 00:58:52.000 --> 00:58:57.159 your time and your openness. I really appreciate it. Yeah, thank you, 724 00:58:57.239 --> 00:59:04.159 Cliff, and enjoy and yep, let the journey continue. Thank you. 725 00:59:09.159 --> 00:59:13.719 I was listening to that while we were doing the edit and thinking, 726 00:59:14.039 --> 00:59:17.800 is she gonna get in trouble? She's not gonna get a call into an 727 00:59:19.599 --> 00:59:23.760 administrative office and they're gonna say, what are you talking about? I hope 728 00:59:23.760 --> 00:59:31.000 she You know, she's so fresh and so unique, and it's extremely rare 729 00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:39.039 to have a NASA Aerospace engineer speak in the fluidity and also talking about metaphysical 730 00:59:39.159 --> 00:59:49.360 subjects consciousness, reality, creation and of course the alien interactions. And you 731 00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:52.000 guys have been following along for years and you know, how it is. 732 00:59:52.119 --> 00:59:59.639 It's like they're here, These star beings are here. Are Native Americans and 733 00:59:59.719 --> 01:00:04.599 Native of people know about it and have communicated and worked with them, But 734 01:00:04.840 --> 01:00:08.360 on the big stage, we're not allowed. We're not getting the details, 735 01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:14.440 We're not able to be a part of it, and I'm just tired of 736 01:00:14.480 --> 01:00:17.239 it. I'm like, come on, now, it's time. It's time 737 01:00:19.079 --> 01:00:27.960 we need to transition out of the repression and the cover up and start letting 738 01:00:27.960 --> 01:00:30.760 people know about it. That was fun. You're probably going, Cliff, 739 01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:37.519 what were you thinking? I hope you enjoyed it. Just as a note. 740 01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:43.400 Our next guest next week is Maria Wheatley, who has written a new 741 01:00:43.480 --> 01:00:51.920 book on Stonehenge, but not just Stonehenge. She has written a ton about 742 01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:58.280 the anatomical anomalies of the race who built Stonehenge. And just to give you 743 01:00:58.280 --> 01:01:04.039 a highlight, these people have had extremely large heads, long heads, much 744 01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:08.719 more brain capacity than we did, and it doesn't necessarily make them more intelligent. 745 01:01:09.639 --> 01:01:16.800 But what Maria discusses is a being that was able to tap into the 746 01:01:16.920 --> 01:01:24.239 unseen, the unseen lyric fields, the unseen energy fields, and what they 747 01:01:24.280 --> 01:01:27.960 did with it is kind of unique. So we're got that's you know, 748 01:01:28.000 --> 01:01:32.000 that's our program next week. So coming up, coming up, coming up. 749 01:01:34.480 --> 01:01:38.199 Hey, We're gonna be coming into spring next week, as are is 750 01:01:38.239 --> 01:01:44.159 the first of spring, and that means that people should be you know, 751 01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:49.159 that means people are thinking about going away vacations, spring break, taking some 752 01:01:49.280 --> 01:01:53.719 time off earth. Ancients has a really great tour coming up in April April 753 01:01:53.760 --> 01:02:00.119 twenty sixth through the through May ninth, and it is our Grand Egyptian Tour 754 01:02:00.199 --> 01:02:07.360 number five with Mohammed Ambrahem. It is twelve days of luxury, comfort and 755 01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:15.480 extraordinary ancient ruins. We're talking temples, gorgeous temples. We're talking buildings. 756 01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:19.280 We're talking a number of pyramids that most people don't get to check out. 757 01:02:20.119 --> 01:02:22.800 Not just a great pyramid, the Cufu Pyramid on the Giza plateau. I'm 758 01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:30.119 talking about the Red Pyramid, this really amazing red pyramid. And then close 759 01:02:30.159 --> 01:02:32.800 to the Red Pyramid is the Bent Pyramid that everyone thinks of a mistake, 760 01:02:34.320 --> 01:02:37.800 but it has turned out that that was built for a specific reason, specific 761 01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:42.360 purpose. So that is the tip of the iceberg. We actually cruise on 762 01:02:42.400 --> 01:02:47.800 the Nile and then we go see Karnak, we go see looksar we go 763 01:02:47.880 --> 01:02:55.679 see a number of wonderful temples that have statuary, and this is really one 764 01:02:55.719 --> 01:03:01.559 of the key points of this tour. The statuary is these modelists fifty to 765 01:03:01.639 --> 01:03:08.679 one hundred ton statues. No one carved statues like the We think Predynastic is 766 01:03:08.679 --> 01:03:15.639 probably before them. So if you're interested in getting away for a little bit, 767 01:03:15.199 --> 01:03:20.440 we have a few spots left, go to earth Ancients dot com Forward 768 01:03:20.599 --> 01:03:28.079 slash Tours and check it out. The itinerary is fantastic and it's very reasonably 769 01:03:28.119 --> 01:03:30.559 priced, and it's a VIP tour. The food, the beverages, the 770 01:03:30.639 --> 01:03:37.920 cruising, the flights, the accommodations everywhere are just first class. So again, 771 01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:44.360 come out and join us Earthcients dot com Forward slash Tours. I want 772 01:03:44.400 --> 01:03:46.480 to also mention that we have a tour in Turkey and August. We also 773 01:03:46.519 --> 01:03:53.679 have a Mexican Tour or Mexico Tour in November of this year, so we 774 01:03:53.760 --> 01:03:58.440 don't sit around, We get out and we have fun. I made sure 775 01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:02.880 these are very reasonably reasons doubly priced, and they're made for you to explore, 776 01:04:03.119 --> 01:04:12.079 to connect and to expand they're transformative, their transformative tours and they're for 777 01:04:12.199 --> 01:04:15.079 you. All right. Hey, that's it for this program. I want, 778 01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:20.079 I think my guest today Shazon Sony and her new book, The Quantum 779 01:04:20.079 --> 01:04:26.599 of Beam, which just came out, so you can download it or get 780 01:04:26.639 --> 01:04:30.760 a copy from Amazon. As always, the team of Gail Tour and Mark 781 01:04:31.079 --> 01:04:35.599 Foster. You guys rock and I appreciate your help. All right, take 782 01:04:35.639 --> 01:05:03.400 care and be well and we will talk to you next time. Sis,